Speaker 1: Good morning, keeps, and welcome to WIKF Daily with Meet
Speaker 1: your Girl. Danielle Moody recording from the home bunker, Folks.
Speaker 1: I am very happy, I guess happy ish to report
Speaker 1: that the white woman, Susan Luis Lorinsk, who murdered isjk Owens,
Speaker 1: the black mother of four in Florida, has been arrested
Speaker 1: and charged with manslaughter. Susan Luis Lrinsk, according to The
Speaker 1: New York Times, was charged with manslaughter with a firearm
Speaker 1: in the shooting death of ijk Owens, and she has
Speaker 1: also been charged with culpable negligence, battery, and two counts
Speaker 1: of assault. This shooting happened on Friday night, and it
Speaker 1: has taken until this week, with the family of aj
Speaker 1: Owens giving a press conference going on cable news networks
Speaker 1: retaining counsel to get this arrest to take place. Now.
Speaker 1: One of the reasons why it takes so very long,
Speaker 1: aside from the obvious, you know, racism, but one of
Speaker 1: the reasons why it takes so long is because of
Speaker 1: the absolutely heinous law that we know as stand your ground.
Speaker 1: And this is what stand your ground states, is that
Speaker 1: the law allows for the person to have a right
Speaker 1: to meet force with force if they believe it's necessary
Speaker 1: to prevent death or great bodily harm. And this is
Speaker 1: what the sheriff said with regard to this particular case.
Speaker 1: Anytime that we think or perceive or believe that that
Speaker 1: might come into play, meaning stand your ground, we cannot
Speaker 1: make an arrest. The law specifically says that, and what
Speaker 1: we have to rule out is whether the deadly force
Speaker 1: was justified or not before we can even make the arrest.
Speaker 1: Can you guys just think about this with me for
Speaker 1: a fucking moment. That somebody can commit murder in the
Speaker 1: state of Florida, in the state of Minnesota and other
Speaker 1: places right that have standing ground laws, and that murderer
Speaker 1: just get to walk free until it can be determined
Speaker 1: because the burden of proof is on the police to
Speaker 1: determine whether or not the person who was still alive
Speaker 1: and well was justified in committing murder. So now we
Speaker 1: have instances where people one cannot make wrong u turns
Speaker 1: right into a driveway, cannot knock on a neighbor's door,
Speaker 1: cannot have a conversation with somebody because what by virtue
Speaker 1: of somebody else's skin, right, they're melanin They fear for
Speaker 1: their lives and can use that refrain that we've heard
Speaker 1: from police officers who are trained and have guns against black,
Speaker 1: unarmed black people, and now you can't go to your
Speaker 1: neighbor's home. It is absolutely obscene where we are and
Speaker 1: how our society has been rapidly crumbling under these anti
Speaker 1: neighbor right, anti civility laws that are placed on the books.
Speaker 1: You know, the Second Amendment is not the only fucking
Speaker 1: amendment as a part of our constitution. The only reason
Speaker 1: why guns were written into the constitution is because it
Speaker 1: was a burgeoning country that did not have police departments
Speaker 1: in the way that we have them now all over
Speaker 1: the place where you could call for help it could
Speaker 1: take days, So the ability to protect your land actually
Speaker 1: mattered when we were still using horses and buggies. The
Speaker 1: fact that we our laws and our thinking have not evolved,
Speaker 1: and it feels to me like we're still just operating
Speaker 1: with this reptilian brain in America is wild. This story
Speaker 1: has captivated, you know, the hearts and minds of people
Speaker 1: across the country because how many parents have had to
Speaker 1: go and knock on neighbors doors, right, how many parents
Speaker 1: have had to have conversations. This is a normal act
Speaker 1: of parenting, and now four children are without a mother.
Speaker 1: It's absurd and it's sick, but that is the reality
Speaker 1: here in America. You know. My other story before we
Speaker 1: get to our guests today, is that of CNNs now
Speaker 1: fired CEO Chris Lickt and the fact that Chris Lickt,
Speaker 1: I think, lasted about four hundred days so a little
Speaker 1: over a year as the CEO of CNN, where he
Speaker 1: greenlighted the town hall and celebrated the town hall of
Speaker 1: Donald Trump and has ushered in, you know, just like
Speaker 1: his predecessor bullshit theory of both sides right, and has enacted,
Speaker 1: you know, the failure of journalism, the failure of journalism
Speaker 1: to provide context, to provide analysis, to provide information to
Speaker 1: the viewer that is needed. I believe that the media
Speaker 1: is also part, a large part on top of the
Speaker 1: policies that are being created in the denigration of our
Speaker 1: society with the fear mongering, with the lies, with the
Speaker 1: both sides is we don't trust the people down the street.
Speaker 1: And so I'm glad that Chris lick is out, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure that he will just be replaced with another
Speaker 1: You know, person that will do the bidding of Zaslov
Speaker 1: and you know, and bring in more Republicans, more liars,
Speaker 1: and more stories that don't allow us as a country
Speaker 1: to come together right, that continue the fracture. What I
Speaker 1: am happy to talk about today though, is with Representative
Speaker 1: Lee Finke, who is the first out trans representative in
Speaker 1: the state of Minnesota. And we get into a conversation
Speaker 1: because Minnesota has done, you know, the unthinkable. The Democrats
Speaker 1: have taken back the governorship, the State Senate, and the
Speaker 1: State House, and in this last session passed some of
Speaker 1: the most progressive policies that we've ever seen, from gun
Speaker 1: reform to minimum wage, to cannabis to aid for children.
Speaker 1: It is remarkable, and so it's incredible to finally get
Speaker 1: to tell a good story of what happens when people
Speaker 1: give power to the party that is actually aligned with
Speaker 1: the people. So coming up next my conversation with Representative
Speaker 1: Lee Finkey, Folks, I am very excited to welcome to
Speaker 1: Woke f Daily Representative Lee Finkey, who is a representative
Speaker 1: in the Minnesota Legislature that just wrapped up an extraordinary
Speaker 1: and significant term, passing some of the most progressive and
Speaker 1: thoughtful pieces of legisl that we have seen in quite
Speaker 1: some time since Democrats have been able to take over
Speaker 1: the State House, the Senate, and the governorship. So Representative
Speaker 1: Thinkee tell us about this session that just ended and
Speaker 1: why it's making headlines.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so, I mean, the thing, thank you very much
Speaker 2: for the invitation. I'm so glad to be here. The
Speaker 2: thing about our session, right, we have what we call
Speaker 2: the trifecta, right, the three power in the three chambers,
Speaker 2: and we had that before in twenty twelve and twenty thirteen.
Speaker 2: Long this is my first session, so this is my
Speaker 2: first experience. But when we had it in twenty twelve
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, there was a lot of caution about how
Speaker 2: we can keep those things rather than a lot of
Speaker 2: aggressive desire to govern. And I think that coming out
Speaker 2: of that experience, our leadership wanted to make it clear
Speaker 2: that we were going to win our re elections by
Speaker 2: doing as much good stuff for the people of Minnesota
Speaker 2: as we can, and truly we held to that. I mean,
Speaker 2: we passed every single priority bill that we had in
Speaker 2: the House dfl up on the wall. We had our
Speaker 2: thirty priority bills. Every single one of them is now
Speaker 2: signed into law. And I mean massive important things that
Speaker 2: have been waiting to get done in Minnesota, gun control legislation,
Speaker 2: driver's license for everyone, paid family medical leave, right down,
Speaker 2: cannabis legalization, expungements. And I mean the word historic gets
Speaker 2: thrown around a lot, and it kind of has lost
Speaker 2: its meaning and the past of the conversation. But it
Speaker 2: truly is historic. Every single bill we passed was historic
Speaker 2: and transformational. The housing bill is the hot was a
Speaker 2: billion dollar housing bill, the biggest by at least seven
Speaker 2: hundred million, right like the education bill, All of the bills,
Speaker 2: the tax bill, just hugely, significantly progressive bills.
Speaker 1: So one of the things, you know, it's funny because
Speaker 1: a in a headline story it says, Minnesota legislature wraps
Speaker 1: up seventy two billion dollars state budget and ends legislative
Speaker 1: session with far reaching impact. Right. And one of the
Speaker 1: things that was harped on, of course by Republicans in
Speaker 1: your state was the fact that this was I think
Speaker 1: that they said very disappointing. You know, every and that
Speaker 1: there was let's see quote even a little bit of
Speaker 1: tax relief that is in some of the bills is
Speaker 1: not going to be recognized because of all the expenses
Speaker 1: from our car tab fees and taxes and delivery fees,
Speaker 1: increases costs all the way around, said the House Minority
Speaker 1: Leader Lisa de Muk. What do you say to that
Speaker 1: kind of reaction to this history to actually, in my
Speaker 1: humble opinion, which is what I say nationally all the time,
Speaker 1: tax payers actually getting back their tax dollars in ways
Speaker 1: that make sense for them. So what do you make
Speaker 1: of those comments by the minority leader?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think that they misunderstand the work
Speaker 2: that we have done, right. I mean, we came into
Speaker 2: the session with, as Lisa Damuth, Minority Leader. Damuth said
Speaker 2: many times, we came in with a historic budget surplus,
Speaker 2: but most of that was left over from the federal
Speaker 2: COVID money that was not ongoing money, and it was
Speaker 2: not surplus tax payments. We use that money to build
Speaker 2: a budget for the people of Minnesota that is going
Speaker 2: to transform what it means to live in Minnesota in
Speaker 2: a progressive way, in a way that's going to improve
Speaker 2: the lives of people. And we have I mean, I
Speaker 2: have no problem saying, you know, we did increase taxes
Speaker 2: in places to better the lives of everyone in Minnesota,
Speaker 2: but we we'd also pass a historic middle class tax cut,
Speaker 2: just tremendously powerful tax bill from Representative Gomez, our tax chair,
Speaker 2: that is going to really help people. So we have
Speaker 2: to have ongoing services. But we also recognize that this
Speaker 2: is a time when people need support in their pocketbooks,
Speaker 2: but they also need better access to healthcare. They also
Speaker 2: need better access to the services that their lives depend upon.
Speaker 2: That's going to take money, and we are going to
Speaker 2: make sure that's not going to stop in two years
Speaker 2: when we have to do this all again. We are
Speaker 2: going to fund these programs into the future.
Speaker 1: How do you think that we need to be using
Speaker 1: your state as a symbol, right, as an example for
Speaker 1: how government is supposed to work form by the people. Like,
Speaker 1: what is the conversation because we're seeing, right, we saw
Speaker 1: pushback in Wisconsin. We've seen pushback with people in terms
Speaker 1: of how they are voting and what they are doing
Speaker 1: in trying to fight against these Republican supermajorities that aren't
Speaker 1: offering the people anything, They're just taking things away. So
Speaker 1: what is it that other states can take at this
Speaker 1: moment that we're seeing when we're seeing the opposite happen
Speaker 1: in these red states?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that what Minnesota saw one. Minnesota
Speaker 2: has just the DFL party here. We have a dog
Speaker 2: at ground game that has made sure that we are
Speaker 2: at least running in every district and everybody's hearing from us.
Speaker 2: We don't leave districts that we can't win and say
Speaker 2: we're not going to put resources there. We want everybody
Speaker 2: to hear our message. And then the thing that we
Speaker 2: had a one vote majority in the Senate, right, we
Speaker 2: have senators in the state of Minnesota who are not progressive. Right,
Speaker 2: I'm in a safe blue urban district. I'm the first
Speaker 2: trans person in this place. I have my own world
Speaker 2: that I opper in. But we have rural senators and
Speaker 2: we brought them along with us, and we said we
Speaker 2: are going to focus on transformational policies that we can
Speaker 2: all get behind, and then we passed them. We said
Speaker 2: we were going to do them, and we did it.
Speaker 2: We didn't say we weren't going to do things. We didn't.
Speaker 2: I mean, I can't stress enough how important it was
Speaker 2: that our leadership sat together across the entire spectrum and said,
Speaker 2: what can we get done, what do we need to
Speaker 2: do to get that done? And then they actually followed
Speaker 2: it all the way through and held people to say
Speaker 2: and you said you would support this, and now we're
Speaker 2: here and we're going to support it. And you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know states that are in a
Speaker 2: trifecta Republican. I mean, that's an extremely different circumstance when
Speaker 2: you're in zero power. But I do think that the
Speaker 2: idea that Democrats nationally are getting their message to everyone
Speaker 2: in every part of the country and every part of
Speaker 2: their state really has a value, even if not right now. Right,
Speaker 2: that work that was being done, the reason this got
Speaker 2: done in Minnesota was because of you know, projects that
Speaker 2: got started five ten years ago. There's an MVP project, right,
Speaker 2: that was something that was started to build what does
Speaker 2: a state like statewide agenda for the state of Minnesota
Speaker 2: that's run by progressives look like. And that that work
Speaker 2: was going on for years and years and years, so
Speaker 2: that when this moment came, it was just teed up.
Speaker 2: They knew exactly what they wanted to do. They've worked
Speaker 2: it through the whole state. Right, you got to do
Speaker 2: that work so that when your moment comes, you can
Speaker 2: do what we just did.
Speaker 1: You know, and what you're talking about really is planting
Speaker 1: the seeds right, and not giving up or seating different
Speaker 1: parts of your state. And when we look at it
Speaker 1: at a macro level, the Democratic Party seating different states
Speaker 1: altogether and just saying oh, we're not going to put
Speaker 1: people on the ground in places like Texas or Florida
Speaker 1: is a foregone conclusion and we're not going to bother
Speaker 1: wasting time in Mississippi. And I think that what we
Speaker 1: see is that, yes, planting those seeds is not going
Speaker 1: to bear fruit the day that you planned, right, that
Speaker 1: you have to have more of a long term on
Speaker 1: top of a short term strategy. Is that your opinion.
Speaker 2: That is my opinion, right, and that's based in my work.
Speaker 2: You know, I come from activism. I come from LGBTQ
Speaker 2: and abortion activism, right. Those are areas that I've worked
Speaker 2: in for a long time. And when you are doing
Speaker 2: work on behalf of the queer community, you don't leave people, right.
Speaker 2: We can't say let's everybody leave Florida. We got to
Speaker 2: abandon Florida, right, because there are trans people in Florida,
Speaker 2: and we don't just leave them behind. We continue to
Speaker 2: work there and we continue to make sure that the
Speaker 2: people who live there are being heard and having their
Speaker 2: needs met, and then we recognize that when the opportunity comes,
Speaker 2: we are going to be ready to make sure those
Speaker 2: people are getting the representation they need. Right and it's
Speaker 2: the same with the people who are doing reproductive work
Speaker 2: all over the country. You don't just walk away from
Speaker 2: people who need access to your services. I mean the Democrats,
Speaker 2: the DFL in Minnesota were the DFL. You know we
Speaker 2: need to make What we did was say we may
Speaker 2: not have your county right now, we may not have
Speaker 2: your seat, but we're going to make sure you know
Speaker 2: that when we legalize cannabis, this is still going to
Speaker 2: benefit you. And here's how. When we pass paid family medically,
Speaker 2: here's how that's going to benefit the workers in your town.
Speaker 2: Even though you probably aren't going to vote for the
Speaker 2: people who are going to pass this, we still are
Speaker 2: going to pass it and we're going to make sure
Speaker 2: you know that it benefits you.
Speaker 1: And I think that that, you know, education is a
Speaker 1: huge part of campaigning. Education is a huge part of
Speaker 1: I think party responsibility is not just asking people for
Speaker 1: their votes when you need it, but also showing them
Speaker 1: how their vote is actually benefiting them, showing them the
Speaker 1: policies that you're creating and why they are necessary. Right.
Speaker 1: You know, I want to switch gears for a moment
Speaker 1: to ask you your thoughts on what is happening outside
Speaker 1: of your state with attacks towards transgender Americans, particularly trans youth.
Speaker 1: And you know, we just saw, you know, there have
Speaker 1: been a series of town halls that CNN is doing
Speaker 1: with Republicans and Nikki Haley being one of those Republicans
Speaker 1: that decided to use her prime time to well wage
Speaker 1: an attack on trans girls and saying that it's trans
Speaker 1: girls are the reason that CIS girls are committing suicide.
Speaker 1: And it was disgusting. It wasn't pushed back against by
Speaker 1: the quote unquote journalists that was there. I want to
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on how the Republican Party is weaponizing
Speaker 1: fear against the trans community.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I have a lot of thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: I mean, that's that's the reason that I ended up
Speaker 2: running for office, right, I mean, even in our decid
Speaker 2: dividing government two years ago, we started to hear this,
Speaker 2: We started to have this debate happening in our house,
Speaker 2: in our Senate, and I started to get it just
Speaker 2: was getting closer and closer to home, and I thought
Speaker 2: somebody has to be there, right, we need trans people
Speaker 2: in these spaces. That ended up being me, and we
Speaker 2: ended up with a trifecta, so I was able to
Speaker 2: do some aggressive pro trans work. At the same time,
Speaker 2: we saw the national discourse become just truly dystopian. The
Speaker 2: situation for trans people in this landscape that the Republicans
Speaker 2: are creating is it's almost beyond my ability to describe
Speaker 2: it as to people who are not trans, right, I
Speaker 2: mean young people and adults now, and adults in some
Speaker 2: of these states are facing D transition, forcable D transition.
Speaker 2: They are being forced to decide whether to move or
Speaker 2: to lose medications that they have been taking, sometimes for years.
Speaker 2: What that means to our community is just that's such
Speaker 2: a violence, such a disgusting and cruel violence against our
Speaker 2: community that it really is about eradication, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yea yeah.
Speaker 2: It's like taking someone's medication away from them that they
Speaker 2: use to be who they are is a way to
Speaker 2: try to say, we don't want you to be here,
Speaker 2: so you're either going to change, or you're gonna coffin
Speaker 2: or the closet, is what I say, right, Like you
Speaker 2: can either you can either find a way to your
Speaker 2: coffin or we're going to take away who you are.
Speaker 2: And I mean, what is being done. That Nikky Haley
Speaker 2: quote that you're referring to is just it's just such
Speaker 2: a blatant one. It's disconnected from any reality that exists
Speaker 2: anywhere whatsoever. And two, mentally, you know, the problem of
Speaker 2: teenage mental health among CIS girls is a real problem
Speaker 2: and it deserves to be taken seriously and talked about
Speaker 2: into Not only is it defense have been discussing to
Speaker 2: our community, but it also is offensive to young people
Speaker 2: who are having real mental health challenges and are looking
Speaker 2: at a world that doesn't seem to be offering them
Speaker 2: a future. And then to blame it on a minority
Speaker 2: community of you know, one percent of the population. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's it's abysmal to me. I mean, it makes me
Speaker 2: so angry and so frustrated that people keep doing this,
Speaker 2: even as we see polls that show Republicans don't support this.
Speaker 1: It's so sickening. And I found Nikki Haley, you know,
Speaker 1: I find Republicans in general to be reprehensible, like just
Speaker 1: absolutely abominal human beings. And I say, that and blanket
Speaker 1: it because if you support the Republican Party at this
Speaker 1: stage in life, then I know who you are, right,
Speaker 1: and you're showing the world who you are. But when
Speaker 1: I look at this, when I look at the trans population,
Speaker 1: and I think, and maybe you know better than me, representative,
Speaker 1: But when I understand it to be, what about a
Speaker 1: million people in the country out of three hundred and
Speaker 1: thirty million people. So you're having, in our two party system,
Speaker 1: one party wage war on a million people, a minority
Speaker 1: of a minority of a minority. How do you think
Speaker 1: that we shift change, create new messaging that shows exactly
Speaker 1: what it is that they're doing, because it's not enough
Speaker 1: to try and shame people that can't be shamed. It's
Speaker 1: not enough to just call them bigots or transphobes. It's like,
Speaker 1: I feel like I want to showcase the number that
Speaker 1: they're talking about that is the cause of all your
Speaker 1: problems in the world.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the number is really interesting to me
Speaker 2: because you know, I as I get into these spaces,
Speaker 2: it's it's often like there is this idea that Republican,
Speaker 2: this political messaging wants people to think that trans people
Speaker 2: are like it's a disease, right, and it's spreading. Tons
Speaker 2: of people are becoming trans, they are turning trans kids
Speaker 2: trans as. That's not a thing, but like that's what
Speaker 2: the idea is. And they're everywhere and they're spreading. And
Speaker 2: then but then once you start trying to do resources
Speaker 2: for trans people like we are doing in Minnesota, the
Speaker 2: story flips right, and Republicans say, like, there's not enough
Speaker 2: trans people us to really worry about this, you know,
Speaker 2: we don't need to pay so much attention to this
Speaker 2: one little group. And so you can't have it both ways, right,
Speaker 2: Either we're a menace and we're everywhere or a very
Speaker 2: tiny minority population and we just deserve rights to have
Speaker 2: resources and respect and pay and housing like everybody else.
Speaker 2: And I mean, I think that it is it is
Speaker 2: hard to be in that walking that fine line, because
Speaker 2: I don't want our community to seem like.
Speaker 1: Or who whoa are we.
Speaker 2: Who must like de brand upon everybody, you know, like
Speaker 2: we are just parts of the community, like every other
Speaker 2: part of the human experience. Right, Queer people of any
Speaker 2: identity interact in the same way. I think that the
Speaker 2: thing that we are facing now is very deliberate. It's
Speaker 2: a choice right. Leaders of this movement has said they
Speaker 2: chose this issue because this issue resonated. They threw everything
Speaker 2: at the wall, and trans kids stuck. Right. That's a
Speaker 2: direct quote from one of the leaders of this movement.
Speaker 2: So it's really hard to figure out how to message
Speaker 2: against strategic hatred. But I do think we continue to
Speaker 2: just exist in the world. Data shows us that less
Speaker 2: than half of the country knows a trans person, and
Speaker 2: that's partially because there aren't that many trans people. I mean,
Speaker 2: there's a lot in terms of raw numbers, but comparatively
Speaker 2: percentage wise, there just aren't. And more people have access
Speaker 2: to what it means to be trans and how people
Speaker 2: who are trans are just everyday members of our community.
Speaker 2: These that to me, is the strongest message that we have.
Speaker 2: It's just going to take time because there aren't there
Speaker 2: just aren't that many of us, and especially in those
Speaker 2: states and in those communities that have been the most
Speaker 2: hostile to us. Right, people are fleeing. We passed the
Speaker 2: trans Refuge bill in Minnesota and people are coming. People
Speaker 2: are coming fast, right, So that that's going to leave
Speaker 2: more vacuum in areas where there aren't trans people, where
Speaker 2: festering anti trans sentiment continues to.
Speaker 1: Grow, right because those people won't will no longer be
Speaker 1: there for their own safety. You know, I feel like
Speaker 1: we're living at this really incredible time where we have
Speaker 1: trans people like yourself that are holding office for the
Speaker 1: first time in you know, in cabinet positions in the
Speaker 1: Biden administration, in you know, in in low in state governments,
Speaker 1: and yet at this same time, right, you have some
Speaker 1: of the biggest attacks that we haven't seen against this
Speaker 1: community probably since the nineteen eighties and early nineties. So
Speaker 1: what keeps you representative thinking, what keeps you hopeful? And
Speaker 1: what message do you have for young queer kids that
Speaker 1: are living in these really terrifying times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is a tough question, right, because
Speaker 2: I am committed to the fight. Right, These are lifelong fights.
Speaker 2: We have to be in this work forever.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: We don't outlast bigotry, we don't outlast racism. It's always
Speaker 2: going to be here. We always got to commit, and
Speaker 2: it can be hard to lose, or it can be
Speaker 2: easy to lose sight of a hopeful future when you
Speaker 2: think about doing this forever. But I will say that,
Speaker 2: you know, I am hopeful because of the relationships that
Speaker 2: I have in the world, and because of the young
Speaker 2: people that I meet in my work. Right, there are
Speaker 2: young LGBTQ people, young trans people in our communities here
Speaker 2: who I meet because they're inspired by me. But I
Speaker 2: meet them and I am so inspired by them and
Speaker 2: the idea I transitioned in adulthood in the nineties in
Speaker 2: the suburbs where I grew up like, I had no concept. Right,
Speaker 2: you can't be what you can't see, and there were
Speaker 2: no trades people, there was no concept of this. And
Speaker 2: I see these young people having a chance to live
Speaker 2: their authentic lives, and I'm so inspired and I'm deeply moved,
Speaker 2: and I'm reminded that the world is improving and that
Speaker 2: our position in the world is making progress right, and
Speaker 2: their existence because we are publicly queer, right, being trans
Speaker 2: is to be visibly queer almost for most people, almost
Speaker 2: all the time. And to see young people living their
Speaker 2: lives is the evidence that our communities effort is being rewarded.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, representatively, Thinkee. I thank you so much for
Speaker 1: the work that you're doing in Minnesota, for the work
Speaker 1: that you've done and continue to do as an activist
Speaker 1: for for equity and for justice, for the LGBTQ plus community,
Speaker 1: but for all of us, I really really appreciate you
Speaker 1: and thank you for making the time for WOKP.
Speaker 2: Thank you, Danielle. I really appreciate being here.
Speaker 1: That is it for me today. Dear friends on woke
Speaker 1: as always, Power to the people and to all the people. Power,
Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.