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Speaker 1: Dan Rubinstein, let's talk playoff. Let's do it. Let's talk.

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Speaker 2: I'm going with Notre Dame here. I don't think it's

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Speaker 2: What did I write down? I wrote down thirty to

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Speaker 2: They're built for it. Thirty to twenty one Irish, which

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Speaker 1: The second thing is you mentioned Notre Dame's rushing attack.

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Speaker 1: How many good quarterbacks is Indiana played like this?

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Speaker 1: Like this, A guy who's mobile, a guy who's an

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Speaker 2: Well, you'd rather be a good zone team right with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely absolutely. But where I'm going with this is

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Speaker 1: you will know that Riley Leonard is making an impact

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Speaker 2: What is your pit stain number for Riley Leonard on

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Speaker 1: I think their default mode in those third and longer

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Speaker 1: I'm curious to see what that ground game looks like,

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Speaker 2: What do you make of, by the way, Marcus Freeman

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Speaker 1: I think reasonably good. Okay, I think reasonably good. I

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Speaker 1: everybody's got one of those. I do think the way

435
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Speaker 1: he's been able to kind of through injury and through

436
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,359
Speaker 1: the adversity of losing a week two who whenever it

437
00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 1: was Northern Illinois, I think he has shown real growth

438
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 1: with himself as a coach, with the staff getting organized,

439
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: and then with the team. You know, there have been

440
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,280
Speaker 1: a lot of challenges for these guys this year with

441
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 1: the line and then all the injuries they've had, specifically

442
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: defensive injuries. It's been a lot. It's been a lot,

443
00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,199
Speaker 1: and I think they've managed it pretty well. So you know,

444
00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 1: that's not game day type things, right, But I do

445
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,119
Speaker 1: think that he's big picture, it's gotten better as a coach,

446
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 1: and I feel pretty confident that he'll at least be

447
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 1: able to match Kurt Signetti, who I think is a

448
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 1: great coach. I think Kurt Signetti's is great on the

449
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 1: day of and knows how to scheme. It just may

450
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 1: be one of those things, like you said, we're Notre

451
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: Dame's got a little more talent.

452
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Speaker 2: We're also in a time where we talk about like

453
00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: the pressure cooker of Ryan Day in Ohio State and

454
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: overthinking things and not that it necessarily applies to Marcus Freeman.

455
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: Pressure is squarely on Notre Dame. There's zero pressure on Indiana.

456
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:59,479
Speaker 2: They're the team that can play loose gravy, right, this

457
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: is this is free football for Indiana, Notre Dame. You're

458
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 2: playing with tim Even if totally, even if Notre Dame

459
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: and their players had nothing to do with playoff losses

460
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:16,080
Speaker 2: or big game losses of years past, there is that

461
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,679
Speaker 2: that fog looming over the program where it's just like

462
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 2: same old Notre Dame get to the postseason and just

463
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 2: don't win in a spot they should or should be

464
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 2: competitive Or is this a new Notre Dame. Yeah, that's

465
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 2: that's the you know, it's it's fully on Notre Dame.

466
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 2: And that that to me is interesting that like Indiana's

467
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 2: just coming to this game like happy and loose, right.

468
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would think I would think by the way,

469
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Speaker 1: our guy, Sean McDonough gonna be on the call for

470
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Speaker 1: this one with Matt Roy and Molly McGrath.

471
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Speaker 2: That's premium play by play, ty premium play by play.

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Speaker 1: Let's move on to Saturday Dan Hot noon Saturday, December

473
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Speaker 1: the twenty first on TNT and Max.

474
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: New spot for the game. Who's this game?

475
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 1: This is a Mark Jones game, Mark Jones, Roddy Jones,

476
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 1: Quin Kessenik.

477
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 2: That's right, because it's an ESPN production, licensed or syndicated

478
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: out the TNT Max.

479
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,200
Speaker 1: Okay, that's right, so it'll be familiar voices if nothing more. Yes,

480
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: we do have some breaking news about this game. By

481
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 1: the way, I don't know if I saw this. Yeah,

482
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,679
Speaker 1: Penn State's backup bo Prabulah is in the transfer portal.

483
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,719
Speaker 1: M I did see that he will not be with

484
00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: the team during this game, during the playoffs at all.

485
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:40,679
Speaker 1: It is I think a bit of a bummer for

486
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Speaker 1: Penn State. He was a big part of the offense.

487
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: Play an element of this offense.

488
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:46,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he was a big part of this offense. To

489
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: not have him for the biggest games, hopefully ploral of

490
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: the seasons a bummer. I guess. The bright side of

491
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Speaker 1: this is that Drew Aller announced he's coming back next year.

492
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Speaker 2: Probably those two things are related.

493
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Speaker 1: Ish, I would assume, I would assume, But this is

494
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: another one of those instances where the calendar just sucks.

495
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,520
Speaker 1: And I don't blame I don't blame bro Perbuell for

496
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,600
Speaker 1: wanting to go somewhere and play. He's been pretty good

497
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,199
Speaker 1: in limited action this year. It's just kind of the

498
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 1: nature of the beast now with the way the calendar

499
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: is set up, that he's probably got a deal from somewhere.

500
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm assuming on the table contingent on him doing it

501
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: right away and not getting hurt. And so he's making

502
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 1: the move, which is you know, I don't think that

503
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,199
Speaker 1: has any sort of catastrophic effect on this game. But

504
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: they did use Perbuel in a bunch of situations mm

505
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:38,119
Speaker 1: hmmm where he's not going to be available.

506
00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,400
Speaker 2: I don't know if the short yardage, red zone tricky. Yeah,

507
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 2: I don't know.

508
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 1: Maybe this means more Tyler Warren snaps a quarterback. I

509
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,320
Speaker 1: don't know, right, but just commit that to memory that

510
00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,120
Speaker 1: Bo Pribuel is not going to be and.

511
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Speaker 2: I don't think it was. I don't think it was

512
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,920
Speaker 2: an option for him to stick around. I think that's

513
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 2: like the James Franklin policy. Some coaches are like, stick around,

514
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,320
Speaker 2: help us out while you find your place. Kenny Dillingham

515
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 2: talked about that with ASU transfers, like, hey, we're gonna

516
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 2: do everything we can to make sure you shine wherever

517
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: you go. If you want to, you know, come practice

518
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 2: and lock in and you know, see how you feel great.

519
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,639
Speaker 2: Uh And I know, Kirby Smart those guys don't stick around.

520
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: I don't know about I don't think Oregon guys stick around.

521
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: Penn State guys don't stick around. It's you know, whatever

522
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,679
Speaker 2: the coach's policy is. But yeah, changes a little bit

523
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 2: of calculus for Penn States options for sure.

524
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Speaker 1: This is the eleven seed SMU. At eleven and two

525
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,960
Speaker 1: they were the runner up in the ACC. It is

526
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: a six seed Penn State runner up in the Big Ten.

527
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: Also at eleven and two they are eight and one

528
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,520
Speaker 1: half point favorite. Let me say this plays. I think

529
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 1: this crowd is going to be nuts for this game.

530
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: This crowd is going to be insane. They've already called

531
00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,919
Speaker 1: it a wide out for whatever that means to you.

532
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 1: I have I have friends that I have not talked

533
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,920
Speaker 1: to in years who have been texting, Hey, you know

534
00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: anybody with tickets? You know anybody with tickets he going

535
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: to the game? You know anybody else going to the game.

536
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: There is so much interest among This is just anecdotal

537
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,159
Speaker 1: Penn State people that I know, which is most of

538
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 1: the people I know, Yeah, who are interested in going

539
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: to this game, finding out more about this game. Some

540
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,879
Speaker 1: people who have no idea anything about SMU. Is it

541
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: an easy matchup? Is that I'm getting inundated with messages

542
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,840
Speaker 1: from people, So I think it's gonna be crazy. I

543
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: think there's a lot of interest in this game from

544
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: the Penn State standpoint as well. There should be. I'm

545
00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: sure there is from the SMU side too. The eyes

546
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 1: of the college football world will be upon Beaver Stadium

547
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 1: at high noon. Where you said there is a chance

548
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: of the snowshowers.

549
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 2: Chance of snowshowers. Yeah.

550
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 1: I have two questions that I think decide this game.

551
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 2: Okay.

552
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,000
Speaker 1: The first is can Penn State get pressure without blitzing?

553
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,840
Speaker 1: And this is a trend that I have been mentioning

554
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,720
Speaker 1: for weeks on end with SMU. Kevin Jennings has thrown

555
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: eight interceptions this season. One of them has been against

556
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 1: the blitz just one. He is better against the blitz

557
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,040
Speaker 1: than he is against not his pf F grades are higher.

558
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: There are countless stats that show this. It is an

559
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,159
Speaker 1: undeniable trend that he is better against the blitz. But

560
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: what also is undeniable is that he is not a

561
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: great quarterback when you're able to get pressure on him

562
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: without blitzing and contain him, presuming to contain him because

563
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,719
Speaker 1: he can he can get out of a lot. I

564
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: love Kevin Jennings. I think he's been a revelation. Obviously

565
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: they're in the playoff. Getting pressure without blitzing is the

566
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 1: key to disrupting his game. That's the first thing. Can

567
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: they do it? The second question for me also relates

568
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 1: to Penn State, and it's can they run like that again?

569
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: And you know what I mean when I say like

570
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: that again?

571
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 2: No idea what you're talking about?

572
00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: Well, the ground game against Oregon was good, don't remember? Yeah,

573
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:47,360
Speaker 1: it was great. It was unlike us. I'm just being

574
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: you're playing get it. I'm not even going to take

575
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: that bag now. They were quite strong. It was a

576
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: very well called and executed game against Oregon, uncharacteristically so

577
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: from the Oregon defense. But I know, you tip your

578
00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: cap to Penn State. They had a good game plan.

579
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: We have seen anything like that from Penn State on

580
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 1: the ground all season.

581
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 2: Long against the better teams, for sure. Yeah.

582
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so I don't know if maybe there's that

583
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: aspect of they don't got baggage with these teams and

584
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: so they're going to empty the playbook and they're not

585
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: going to play as conservatively. They scored way more points

586
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,160
Speaker 1: against Oregon than I expected, right, And I just wonder

587
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 1: if this game is going to have some of those

588
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 1: same hallmarks. If Penn State's able to run like they

589
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: did against Oregon against Smusmus in a lot of trouble,

590
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: and they've been really good against the run, less than

591
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 1: three yards of carry aloud, not a lot of big

592
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 1: chunk plays like the three four defense with the space

593
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: leaters and the active linebackers that take down the they've

594
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: been good. They've been good. They're good tacklers. My hunch though,

595
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: is this is where we see Tyler Warren and the

596
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: gravitational effects of him putting him somewhere in the offensive set.

597
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: Can you isolate a weird matchup that pulls a linebacker out,

598
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: the safety out that opens up a hole for a

599
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 1: Nick Singleton or a k Tron Allen to do what

600
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 1: they did against Oregon. That's what I'm interested in. We'll

601
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: see if they can run like that again.

602
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 2: Now SMU has a benefit of time in this one

603
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 2: to do that. They've had a little bit more time

604
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 2: to sort of figure out. I mean, they can't add

605
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: better players to you know, they can't add Caleb Downs

606
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 2: to their roster to run with Tyler Warren or something,

607
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,920
Speaker 2: but they have had they'll have more time than Oregon had.

608
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, those are the two things for me that tilt

609
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: the balance of this game one way or another. Sure,

610
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 1: I have gone back and forth and whether or not

611
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: I want to lay points in this game eight and

612
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: a half. Eight and a half is the number. The

613
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:42,960
Speaker 1: one that really jumped out to me is that SMU

614
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 1: is getting five and a half points in the first half.

615
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,240
Speaker 1: That to me is interesting. I could see this being

616
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: tight at a minimum for a half, and I think

617
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: it probably is tight the full way through. Where did

618
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,040
Speaker 1: you come down on this? How much how much deep

619
00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: diving did you do on SMU and how it stacks

620
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 1: up depends.

621
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 2: Ate a good amount. What I'm curious about if Penn

622
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 2: State's not being bringing the pressure. And you had mentioned

623
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: this going into the Oregon game, that Penn State has

624
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 2: extremely physical both in good and not so good ways,

625
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 2: corners playing on islands, and SMU has been a very

626
00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: successful passing team against man defense, man coverage, and Penn

627
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 2: State plays man a lot more than the national average.

628
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: And so there is something there those fifty to fifty balls,

629
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,040
Speaker 2: the one on one battles, and I don't think either

630
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 2: of these teams has a true Winter Wonder at receiver. Obviously,

631
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: Tyler Warren is that as a pass catcher now the

632
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: Mackie Award winner, So there is something to me there that. Look,

633
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: the way SMU started out that Clemson game was disastrous

634
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 2: between the strip sack, which I'm paying attention to, with

635
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:53,680
Speaker 2: the SMU offensive line now having to play actual carter

636
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: after struggling with what Clemson was able to bring up front,

637
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 2: and some of the dds for Penn State, that's something

638
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm paying attention to, as you alluded to, with you know,

639
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 2: getting to Kevin Jennings without sending extra men, but if

640
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 2: they are able to find some of those matchups on

641
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: the outside. Now, Tedz Johnson ran wild against Penn State

642
00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: but he was finding a lot of grass against some

643
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 2: zone and he was and he is better than what

644
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 2: SMU has at receiver. Presumably SMU is good players at receiver.

645
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: They don't have all conference types, it seems to me.

646
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 2: And so that's what I'm curious about. In terms of

647
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: what SMU looks like when they have the ball, I

648
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 2: like Brishard Smith on the ground. I think they'll be

649
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 2: able to run it some against Penn State.

650
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: Yeah. I agree.

651
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: When SMU is on defense, though, that's when I worry

652
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 2: a little bit. That's when I worry that this game

653
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 2: is going to get a little bit heavy. I like

654
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: SMU's defense a good amount. I don't think they've seen

655
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: I like that they went on the road and be Louisville.

656
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 1: Nope.

657
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,800
Speaker 2: But in terms of if Penn State is somewhere near

658
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,600
Speaker 2: their a game, the physicality of those two running backs,

659
00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: the physicality of Tyler Warren that like you think you're

660
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 2: in position to get off the field. This is sort

661
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 2: of the opposite of a Notre Dame problem that like

662
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 2: third and sevens Tyler Warren time he might take the snap,

663
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: he might throw the ball on third and seven, but

664
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: he's just like you kind of know where it's going.

665
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,719
Speaker 2: You try to bracket him with like a linebacker in safety,

666
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: and still he comes down with it. That's to me

667
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 2: going to be the huge thing. SMU I think was

668
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 2: a very very good team in terms of forcing three

669
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 2: and outs, getting off the field on third down, the

670
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: third downs when Penn State has the ball. If Penn

671
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 2: State's able to generate third and shorts, I think this

672
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,720
Speaker 2: one's over. If Penn State is held back and Drew

673
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:48,880
Speaker 2: Aller needs to make those third and eight thirty nine,

674
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 2: it might be in a similar position. But even still,

675
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: the Tyler Warren factor is still too big to ignore.

676
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 2: I have Penn State winning this game. The Penn State

677
00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 2: slow starts skin me a little bit, and nobody got

678
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: off to a worse start than SMU last week, so

679
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe that line looks pretty good just

680
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: in terms of a low scoring first half, especially if

681
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 2: the weather's a little bit tricky. I just don't see

682
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: a way in which SMU travels the distance they're traveling

683
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,439
Speaker 2: and having some of those mental errors that they've had

684
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: this year in winning efforts, mind you sure, and coming

685
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: away with the win in this one. I think it's

686
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 2: just too much to ask for even James Franklin in

687
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 2: a big game, and all the jokes were like, James

688
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: Franklin's gonna be the first one to be you know,

689
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 2: favorite at home or whatever and lose a first round game.

690
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 2: I'm looking at my legal pad, I have written down

691
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 2: twenty seven to twenty Penn Okay, So I guess they

692
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: don't cover.

693
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I could very easily see a world in which

694
00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: they cover. I'm wavering a little bit here. I'm going

695
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: to stick to what I jotted down, though. I think

696
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 1: Penn State's ability to get pressure with that front four

697
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:55,600
Speaker 1: is what swings this one in the second half, and

698
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 1: for is a big mistake, something that flips the field,

699
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: something that gets momentum going for Penn State. I do

700
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 1: think the effects of Tyler Warren Or would open up

701
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: the run game, maybe not to the same degree that

702
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: we saw a week could go against Oregon, but he's

703
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: a tough matchup. He's a tough matchup and there aren't

704
00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: a whole lot of teams to know what to do

705
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: with them, So I think there is definitely something to that.

706
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 1: I will add your comments about Ted Johnson being open

707
00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: over the middle. I agree. I like tedes Johnson better

708
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:32,320
Speaker 1: than most, if not all, of what SMU has at receiver. However,

709
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: he was wide open. He was wide open, wide open.

710
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 2: If the pass rush doesn't get home and Kevin Donalds

711
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: does have that time, that's a problem. Keep scanning downfield

712
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: as he rolls out, there will be grass to be had.

713
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 1: There's a problem, you know. The more the more we

714
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,359
Speaker 1: talk about these same teams week in and week out,

715
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: if you listen to the show, there are a lot

716
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 1: of common trends here. We talk about a lot of

717
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 1: the same things over and over again. I'm kind of

718
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,040
Speaker 1: talking now the same that we talked about Penn State

719
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: before that Oregon game. It's about getting that pressure about

720
00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: getting home. They couldn't get home against Dylan Gabriel. We

721
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: saw what that looked like. Can they get home against SMU.

722
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: If they can, I think we have a different result here.

723
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,960
Speaker 1: I've got Penn State thirty one to twenty four, thirty

724
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: one twenty four, so same margin, same more touchdown by

725
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: a touchdown. I think Penn State's better. I agree with

726
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: all the travel stuff you mentioned. I think that crowd

727
00:36:23,640 --> 00:36:26,400
Speaker 1: is going to be on fire for this game, and

728
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: that's just a really, really difficult setting for a team

729
00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: to come into with those kind of stakes. If at

730
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 1: Lashley comes into State College and wins this game, he

731
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: should get a lifetime contract. This is an incredible, incredible

732
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 1: venue for.

733
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,280
Speaker 2: By the way, to coach at Penn State. You're saying,

734
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,120
Speaker 2: I mean, actually wins this game, maybe just give them

735
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 2: the parka at midfield.

736
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 1: Maybe this is a career match like they have in

737
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 1: the WWE. You know, whoever wins gets it. But I'm

738
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:55,480
Speaker 1: curious to see how they quit themselves. You know, I've

739
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: been high on SMU. It kind of pains me to

740
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: go against them, But I write Penn State's a better team.

741
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: I think they show it. I don't think they cover.

742
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:06,240
Speaker 2: By the way, two teams that were kind of haunted

743
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: by penalties last week or last game. Penn State with

744
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 2: the personal files, SMU with the personal fouls. This is

745
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 2: one of the most penalized offensive lines in America for SMU,

746
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: So everything's expensive this time of year. Tie, where's the

747
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: free yardage? How about that free seage? Says where's the

748
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: free yardage? In this one? Because both of these teams

749
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: came out, came out not buttoned up SMU upfront and

750
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: with the turnovers, and falling behind like they did, and

751
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: then it was fourteen to seven. You know, they sort

752
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: of rounded into shape a little bit and they had

753
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:39,560
Speaker 2: to come back to make it a game, obviously, But

754
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: Penn State with the free yardage for Oregon, like who's ready,

755
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: who's locked in, who's buttoned up? Who is stacking those

756
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 2: small things? In this one? I think there's a better

757
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 2: shot Penn State is just because you look at where

758
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 2: SMU has been as a program and they just weren't

759
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: ready for that game against Clemson at kickoff. Yeah, and

760
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 2: that worries me a little bit that now they have

761
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 2: to travel to State CAU and be ready to play

762
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: their a game. It's a lot to ask. So yeah,

763
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 2: Penn State by a touchdown.

764
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Let's go to the four pm game. This one also

765
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,320
Speaker 1: is on TNTN Max.

766
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: Who's calling it?

767
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: This looks to be a Dave Pash, Dusty Devorceik and

768
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 1: Taylor McGregor. Game.

769
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,200
Speaker 2: Great, very good crew.

770
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: We've got number twelve Clemson ten and three. We've got

771
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: number five Texas eleven and two. Texas is favored by

772
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: eleven and one half point Stan. Yeah, okay, this game

773
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:41,920
Speaker 1: is interesting to me for more reasons than I probably

774
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 1: can fit into this podcast. The one thing that is

775
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: stuck in the back of my mind is the fact

776
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 1: that Dabo has been here, maybe not here here, but

777
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:55,319
Speaker 1: in a big postseason playoff game many times before. Does

778
00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: that have any value, any meaning to you whatsoever going

779
00:38:59,080 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: into a matchup like.

780
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 2: This, Yes, definitely right. I mean the a major part

781
00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,880
Speaker 2: of being a head coach is getting the heads of

782
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 2: your players and assistants and the program as a whole

783
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 2: screwed on correctly. That every the old Clemson thing is right,

784
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: they had the all in shirts right. It's getting people motivated,

785
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,640
Speaker 2: it's getting people focused and locked in, and to have

786
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 2: the rhythms of the postseason. This is a different rhythm. Yeah,

787
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 2: you know, this is two weeks after two and a

788
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 2: half weeks whatever it is after conference championships, so the

789
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,479
Speaker 2: timing feels a little bit different. But he's been there.

790
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 2: The staff hasn't necessarily all been here, no, but he's

791
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: been there in terms of setting expectations, setting schedules, you know,

792
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: getting under people's skin in the right way. Absolutely as

793
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 2: a factor.

794
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: I think so too. I don't know how much weight

795
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: to put on that.

796
00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 2: Well, Sark has been here too, so I mean Sark's

797
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: been here too, playoff, playoff head coach last year.

798
00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: Playoff head coach last year. Obviously, a big game experience

799
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:02,360
Speaker 1: is time with like Alabama, like he's not a stranger.

800
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:04,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, USC sure to.

801
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 1: Any of this. But I only bring it up because Clemson,

802
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 1: relative to the field here is the biggest first round underdog.

803
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: And so I've seen a lot of people, much the

804
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 1: way people have panned Indiana panned SMU, a lot of

805
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 1: folks have been panning Clemson thinking like, well, they have

806
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 1: no shot in this game going to Texas. How much

807
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 1: of a shot do you give them to beat Texas outright,

808
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: just to beat him, not to cover, but to just win.

809
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:34,839
Speaker 2: I mean, we mentioned the pressure in this game with

810
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 2: you know, Notre Dame feeling all of it. Clemson has

811
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: none of it. No, Clemson won both the ACC and

812
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 2: the Participation Trophy last week. Right, this is all extra time. Uh.

813
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:53,799
Speaker 2: I like that Dabbo is uniquely positioned to be the

814
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: like rest of y'all, bust the roy bus whatever that

815
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:01,280
Speaker 2: nobody believes in us. That's a nice emotional advantage, especially

816
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,280
Speaker 2: given the pressure that's on Texas after losing to Georgia

817
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: again in the SEC Championship game against Georgie's backup quarterback,

818
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,960
Speaker 2: mind you, in overtime. So from I think there's an

819
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 2: emotional advantage that Clemson has. What does that mean in

820
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 2: this game? I think not nothing, not a lot. How

821
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: about that. I give Clemson a shot. I don't give

822
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 2: them a great shot. They have a shot because of

823
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,399
Speaker 2: what Texas has looked like against quality teams this year,

824
00:41:30,120 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: and so I just I think the best thing in

825
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: this game is the Texas defense. Right, largely speaking, in

826
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: the postseason, when the best thing in a game is

827
00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: one of the team's defenses, and it's clearly the best

828
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 2: thing in the game, there's not a lot of room

829
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:53,320
Speaker 2: to say, well, they're still going to lose. Right Historically speaking,

830
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: the team with the best unit being their own defense

831
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 2: is generally in good shape to win a game.

832
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:04,760
Speaker 1: That was my first key to victory slash question about

833
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: this game, and it's can Clemson create any big plays?

834
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 2: What does Clemson do incredibly well? You can point to

835
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 2: a lot of things for a lot of these teams.

836
00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 2: Kevin Jennings was I think maybe the most efficient quarterback

837
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:20,320
Speaker 2: in the ACC this year. Cam Ward was the best quarterback,

838
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 2: had the highest ceiling Kevin Jennings really good. The offense

839
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 2: was really good. The defense came up with. Clemson is

840
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 2: pretty good a lot a lot of things, but not

841
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: incredible at any specific thing.

842
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,440
Speaker 1: Texas on defense is the best big play defense in

843
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: the country. They just don't give them up. I don't

844
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:42,400
Speaker 1: see Clemson ripping off twelve play seventy two yard drives

845
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:44,919
Speaker 1: that eat six and a half minutes off the clock

846
00:42:45,040 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: not consistently against this defense. I think they're going to

847
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,879
Speaker 1: need some of those big hitters. And I just don't

848
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: think you can pickle ball your way to a win

849
00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: against Texas. You know, Texas can lock down that Clemson offense.

850
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 1: They can force kid club Nick to be super efficient

851
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: in order to beat them, and I just don't think

852
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: Clemson is that team. Maybe I'll be proven wrong. I've

853
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 1: been wrong a thousand times already this season, but that,

854
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 1: for me is the thing that I think I'm watching

855
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: first and foremost. Can Clemson create any big plays? Because

856
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,959
Speaker 1: if they can't, I think we're going to know pretty

857
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: early how this thing is going. The second thing that

858
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: I would add it's another offensive question, but on the

859
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: Texas side, can they build a ground game? Because you

860
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,440
Speaker 1: can absolutely run on this version of the Clemson defense.

861
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:33,480
Speaker 1: We've seen games like the Louisville game earlier this year,

862
00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: where Clemson gave up a ton of big plays on

863
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: the ground. It has been a recurring trend all season, and.

864
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,760
Speaker 2: Not even that much earlier though we're still talking about November.

865
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,040
Speaker 1: Still talking November. Sure earlier, but not that early. Yeah,

866
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: one hundred and nineteenth in yards after contact on the

867
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: Clemson side, which feels abnormal relative to other Clemson defenses

868
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: we've seen, which have been lockdown. This is not a lockdown.

869
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,480
Speaker 1: It's a good defense, it is not a lockdown defense.

870
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: It is not a particularly great tackling defense. And that

871
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 1: definitely shows up against a team that can run, whether

872
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: it's Texas, whether it's Louisville, whether it's whoever. If you're

873
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: not a great tackling team, you tend to see that.

874
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 1: It was one of the things I flagged. I should

875
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: have flagged more when I talked about two lane against

876
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: Army a few weeks back. Yeah, sure enough. Yeah, it

877
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: showed up, and it could show up here if Texas

878
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 1: gets going on the ground. That has a the important

879
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: effect of being demoralizing to the Clemson defense. It's tough

880
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 1: to go up against a good running team. It also

881
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: has the effect of like depressurizing this situation for quinn Ewers,

882
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,000
Speaker 1: which is another thing that you and I have been

883
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: talking about here. Quinn Ewers in a big game, Yep.

884
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: Do you still stand by the line on a still

885
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: bum ankle? Yeah, on a still bomb ankle. Do you

886
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 1: still stand by the line that quinn Ewers is a

887
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 1: medium game quarterback? I think you said that at some point.

888
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 2: Hey beat Bam on the road last year, and that's

889
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,640
Speaker 2: unequivocally it's a great win for quinn Ewers. But I

890
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,360
Speaker 2: think basically what Ryan Day has done this year is

891
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,560
Speaker 2: take a little bit of the heat off of Sark

892
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: and to a lesser extent, quinn Ewers in terms of

893
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 2: like why isn't this guy getting it done? And so

894
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: there is a good amount of pressure on Texas, especially

895
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,279
Speaker 2: given the line, especially that it's in Austin, where it

896
00:45:16,320 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 2: appears to be on the surface like it is no brainer,

897
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: Like Texas is so advantaged in this game even with

898
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: their offensive struggles, like they've lost exclusively to Kirby Smart,

899
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: the best active coach in the sport right now, and

900
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 2: so they lost two games in which Georgia was able

901
00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:36,520
Speaker 2: to create chaos and get off the field on defense

902
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 2: and force mistakes. And it's not necessarily the only blueprint

903
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:45,719
Speaker 2: to beating Texas, but it's the most consistent one we've

904
00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:48,760
Speaker 2: seen this year, and it's one that if Clemson's defense

905
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: were like thirty percent better, you're like, Okay, this is

906
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: an interesting matchup. Yeah, I just they've been pushed around

907
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: too much upfront to feel crazy confident in this being

908
00:45:58,640 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 2: competitive for four quarters.

909
00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: I think I'm with you. I've got this at thirty

910
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:07,600
Speaker 1: to seventeen Texas.

911
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 2: I think they're barely covering. I don't have them covering,

912
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: but yeah, continue.

913
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: I think they win. I think they cover. I think

914
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 1: it's because of defense. I think it's because of the

915
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: ground game. And I do think they could put Kate

916
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 1: Klubnick in a situation where a lot of it comes

917
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,719
Speaker 1: down on him. That's sort of been them for the

918
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: Clemson offense. It's been a lot of what can Kaid

919
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: Klubnick do?

920
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: Right?

921
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 1: If they're not able to run with Phil Maffa, I

922
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: think a lot of that blows back on Caid and

923
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,800
Speaker 1: I think they need him to make some big plays

924
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: on the outside through the air. They need him to

925
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 1: make some big plays on the ground. I do not

926
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: have a level of trust in him that he can

927
00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: play flawless football, not make the big mistake, not give

928
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 1: Texas a short field, and frankly, just do this on

929
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 1: his own, which is how I felt for a few

930
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: weeks running now. So I'm on the Texas side of

931
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:01,240
Speaker 1: this one. I will say that I grappled with the margin,

932
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: but I came down thirteen, thank you, thirteen thirteen points

933
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 1: in favor of Texas, thirty to seventeen.

934
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: Thirty to seventeen. I was gonna say, if you have

935
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 2: hope of beating Texas this year with this defense, you

936
00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 2: gotta score twenty.

937
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:14,320
Speaker 1: Gotta score twenty.

938
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: Twenty is the number. And it's very difficult with Clemson's

939
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 2: offense right now and what they've allowed at times and allowing,

940
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,799
Speaker 2: you know, being up twenty one to seven, and then

941
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: looking so listless in that fourth quarter against SMU. Like

942
00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,240
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out like the most correct way

943
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 2: to put this. I don't love that Clemson has bedroom issues.

944
00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 2: I don't love that it's tough for them to get going,

945
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 2: and I don't like that it's tough for them you

946
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: look at the end of the South Carolina game, tough

947
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 2: for them to finish. Yeah, So that's the that's the

948
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: cleanest way I can put it for Clemson right now,

949
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:52,520
Speaker 2: the first half of that Virginia Tech game, I mean,

950
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: the all of the Clemson Georgia game to start the season. Yeah,

951
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 2: And that's to me, like, if you want Clemson to

952
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: be competitive in this game, you have to, like Kate

953
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,799
Speaker 2: Klebnick is way better early on in games in Layton games,

954
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:08,160
Speaker 2: and that's maybe not all his faults, right. A lot

955
00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 2: of that can be offensive coordinator, a lot of that

956
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 2: can be head coach trying to slow the game down

957
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: and just try to leave with the win and just

958
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 2: being overly conservative when they're opportunities there. But the rhythm

959
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 2: of Clemson is not an advantage right now. And so

960
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: I have it twenty four to fourteen Texas, So I

961
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 2: think it's a clean, easy victory, maybe even twenty four

962
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: to seven with three and a half minutes left and

963
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 2: there's like a backdoor cover situation. But I do not

964
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:39,239
Speaker 2: see this as being especially competitive for Clemson given what

965
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: we've seen against the better teams that they've played and

966
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 2: the issues that they've had, even if they are up,

967
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 2: even if they call a great game, and even like

968
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: I just the last quarter and a half would be

969
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: terrifying to me. That's your pit stain situation. If you're

970
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 2: a Clemson fan. Forget like not being competitive. If you're

971
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 2: up four points in this game in the middle of

972
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 2: the third quarter, that's when you start to get narned, right,

973
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,200
Speaker 2: that's the worst possible scenario for Clemson. So I have, yeah,

974
00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: a ten point win for Texas here. I think they're

975
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 2: going to be able to run. I think the atmosphere

976
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: is going to be, at least for DKR, pretty electric

977
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 2: in this spot. Weather should be very nice, so nothing

978
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:21,960
Speaker 2: to contend with there. So I think McConaughey walks out

979
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:22,759
Speaker 2: of here very happy.

980
00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: McConaughey, we're in that jacket man wearing the.

981
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 2: Hat, the lucky hat, the lucky burnt orange ish, leather

982
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: tanned jacket. He'll be very happy with this one.

983
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: On the field, there was part of me that was

984
00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: hoping that Texas would be on the road somewhere in

985
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 1: a cold weather place to see if McConaughey comes out

986
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:40,560
Speaker 1: with the jacket, because the jacket probably wouldn't do enough

987
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:42,600
Speaker 1: warming right, and.

988
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: This is the only opportunity. Everything else is going to

989
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,040
Speaker 2: be yea in good weather domes.

990
00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, we agree again, not on the margin, but

991
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: on the victor.

992
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 2: I think that's a good goal though, for the cause

993
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 2: of all playoff to get Parka McConaughey, to get Beanie

994
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,640
Speaker 2: mca till we get that. Yeah, knitted hat McConaughey.

995
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: One big game left. Yeah, what do we have? This

996
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: is the night cap. This is Saturday. This is the

997
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: seventh and twenty first, eight pm ABC and ESPN. We're

998
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 1: back on the mothership. It is the nine seed Tennessee

999
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: at ten and two. It is the eight seed Ohio

1000
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:24,359
Speaker 1: State at home also at ten and two. They are

1001
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 1: a seven point favorite. As we said at the top,

1002
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,719
Speaker 1: we are also doing a live stream across all the

1003
00:50:28,719 --> 00:50:32,080
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1004
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:33,680
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1006
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1007
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1008
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1009
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1010
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1011
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1012
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1013
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1014
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1015
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1016
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1017
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could look that one up while I vamp here.

1018
00:51:05,840 --> 00:51:07,400
Speaker 1: As I said, we're doing the live streams to make

1019
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: sure that you stop on over to the YouTube channel. Really,

1020
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,439
Speaker 1: any of our platforms, you can keep tabs with what's

1021
00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: going on. If you're watching the game on a second screen,

1022
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 1: we'd love to have you. This I believe is going

1023
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: to be the Herbian Fowler game. Okay, I believe they'll

1024
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: be working this one. This will be the sort of

1025
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: crown jewel of the weekend. Dan. This is also I

1026
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 1: think the hardest game to project.

1027
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:37,279
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1028
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 1: You can buy that with your own personal credit card.

1029
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,480
Speaker 1: How about that?

1030
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 2: It's pretty good. I kind of want to, but I

1031
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 2: won't at the moment. Yeah, continue, I think this is

1032
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,680
Speaker 2: the hardest one to predict. I agree this game.

1033
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 1: It is a seven point line. I talk to a

1034
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: dude online for what it's worth who was flabbergasted at

1035
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: the mere notion that Ohio State would win this game. Okay,

1036
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: and then I've seen the exact opposite, which is crazy

1037
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: to me, and I think kind of supports the case

1038
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: that this is a tough one. The weird thing to

1039
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:10,040
Speaker 1: me that I noticed when I was looking through Tennessee

1040
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 1: stat profile, and I think I've given voice to this

1041
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,160
Speaker 1: a little bit through the season. They look a lot

1042
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,600
Speaker 1: like a Big ten team.

1043
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 2: Agree.

1044
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not particularly explosive, but they play great defense.

1045
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: They win the field position battle. If you go back

1046
00:52:26,239 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: through and look at their games, not all of them

1047
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 1: have been by crippling margins. They've won some games that

1048
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 1: were kind of ugly, kind of rock fighting, but they

1049
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: lean on that defense, they lean on their ground game

1050
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,120
Speaker 1: with Dylan Samson. They're good. They're a solid team. They

1051
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: deserve to be in this game. I don't know if

1052
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:45,600
Speaker 1: they're good enough to beat Ohio State in the Shoe

1053
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,360
Speaker 1: at night. I gotta believe the Shoe is going to

1054
00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:50,279
Speaker 1: be pretty fired up for this game. They finally get

1055
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:56,240
Speaker 1: a night game. But I really went back and forth

1056
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: on this one.

1057
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 2: Okay, what do you think? Yeah, it's the the Seinfeld

1058
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 2: girlfriend bad light, good light. Which Ohio State are we

1059
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: getting here? You mentioned the James Franklin baggage with teams

1060
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 2: like Michigan and Penn State. There's no baggage for Ohio

1061
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,919
Speaker 2: State with Tennessee none. They lose to Michigan a couple

1062
00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: of years ago and put it on Georgia's defense, A

1063
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,360
Speaker 2: very good Georgia's defense put themselves in position to beat

1064
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: Georgia in the playoff. This can be an excellent team.

1065
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 2: This has very consistently been an excellent defense. Defense has

1066
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: not been the issue. It's overthinking on offense. It's not

1067
00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 2: trusting Will Howard. It's not getting off the field on defense.

1068
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: It's excuse me, it's getting off the field too often

1069
00:53:41,719 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 2: in silly ways, running straight into the teeth of a

1070
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 2: defense when it's not working. It can be an excellent

1071
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 2: Ohio State team. There's an Ohio State team that moved

1072
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 2: the ball and put themselves in position to beat Oregon

1073
00:53:55,520 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: on the road. Number one team in America, yep, Tennessee Wise.

1074
00:54:04,239 --> 00:54:07,959
Speaker 2: It's weird to watch this offense, as you mentioned, rely

1075
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 2: on the ground game for most of their success. I

1076
00:54:10,320 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 2: think they have good, but not great receivers, which is

1077
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: kind of strange.

1078
00:54:13,239 --> 00:54:17,840
Speaker 1: To have exact the exact same thing written down on

1079
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: my noteset. They're good receivers, they're not great.

1080
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 2: Chas Nemrod in the portal, I don't know if he

1081
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: was the number four, number five receivers. Squirrel White as

1082
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:30,040
Speaker 2: beat up and so relying on Bruce McCoy, Dante Thornton, transfers,

1083
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 2: West Coast transfers, YEA, and Nico. I mean, if Nico

1084
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: came into Tennessee as like a standard four star, you'd

1085
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,600
Speaker 2: think like, oh, he's been promising so far, but coming

1086
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: in with the expectations and the time he had as

1087
00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 2: a true freshman on the field, and the expectation I had,

1088
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 2: I'll speak for myself of him coming in and being

1089
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: transformative as a red shirt freshman or sophomore his second

1090
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 2: year in the program. Anyway, he's falling short of.

1091
00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: That he had.

1092
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,920
Speaker 2: So you're bringing this up, and.

1093
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:04,799
Speaker 1: I'll harken back to something I know I mentioned many

1094
00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 1: weeks ago now.

1095
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 2: Which is, by the way, okay, it's okay.

1096
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: Oh, it's fine. It's absolutely fine. If you compare production

1097
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: last season to come to the production this season, last season,

1098
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: Tennessee finished nine to four, eight and four regular season

1099
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:21,279
Speaker 1: this season. Obviously in the playoffs, we'll see which direction there.

1100
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:24,360
Speaker 1: The rest of the season goes here after this game,

1101
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,320
Speaker 1: but the production is pretty comparable. It's pretty comparable. I

1102
00:55:28,320 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: don't know if there have been any huge strides forward.

1103
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's necessarily a bad thing, but

1104
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: I think for me, one of the questions I have

1105
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:37,839
Speaker 1: about this one does relate to that offense, because it's

1106
00:55:37,840 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: not a big playoffense.

1107
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 2: No, in fact, it's specifically not a big playoffense. They'll

1108
00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 2: not get occasional passes downfield, but the way they succeed

1109
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 2: the offense is fine, it's decent. It just incredible.

1110
00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 1: I tend to like the parts more than the whole,

1111
00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 1: you know. I really like Dylan Samson. Dylan Samson's the

1112
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,840
Speaker 1: heartbeat of this thing. Twenty two touchdowns. I like Nico.

1113
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 1: I think Nico's legitimately a first round caliber talent. He

1114
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: needs more seasoning. He's still young, but you can see it,

1115
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:08,560
Speaker 1: you get it. And the receivers are good. They're not great,

1116
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,359
Speaker 1: they're very very good. I think Ohio State can neutralize

1117
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 1: the ground game with Samson to some degree. To some degree,

1118
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 1: they probably won't fully contain him, but to some degree,

1119
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 1: I think they can neutralize it, and I think they

1120
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 1: can force Tennessee to try and make plays through the air.

1121
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:28,759
Speaker 1: They are comfortable, very comfortable, like we mentioned with Penn

1122
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:33,000
Speaker 1: State manning up, letting them do their thing out wide

1123
00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:35,840
Speaker 1: and trying to get pressure with what you've got up front.

1124
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: They also blitz a lot. They blitz a ton yep,

1125
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 1: So I'm curious to see if push comes to shove here.

1126
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: Can Tennessee receivers win in space? Can they win in space?

1127
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 1: Knowing that they're going to be some tough man on

1128
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 1: man matchups out wide. Tennessee loves throwing in the slot.

1129
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: That'll be a matchup there, whether it's a third corner,

1130
00:56:57,920 --> 00:56:59,800
Speaker 1: whether it's a linebacker, whether it's a guy like a

1131
00:56:59,840 --> 00:57:03,800
Speaker 1: Ca Downs. Can that guy get open? Can these guys

1132
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,040
Speaker 1: win in space and give themselves something of an outlet

1133
00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,239
Speaker 1: if not on the ground. With Dylan Samson, that's the

1134
00:57:09,280 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 1: first question for me, and I think that's probably the

1135
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: biggest one regarding this game and how Tennessee goes about

1136
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: its business against a really good Ohio State defense, which

1137
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: we'll talk to. We're blue in the face I'm sure

1138
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 1: about the offense and what that plan may or may

1139
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: not look like. But I think the defense on the

1140
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,320
Speaker 1: Ohio State side is obviously still very very solid. Yeah,

1141
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 1: and that's not an easy saul. On the Tennessee side, excellent,

1142
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:33,600
Speaker 1: They're incredible. They're incredible.

1143
00:57:33,600 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 2: It's not very very solid excellent.

1144
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: Bill Connolly has them in his sp plus as the

1145
00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: top defense in the country. Yeah, So even if they're

1146
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,480
Speaker 1: not that, they're right there. This is absolutely going to

1147
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 1: be an uphill fight for the Tennessee offense that again

1148
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 1: can't pick a ball their way through this. It's like

1149
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 1: the Clemson thing. You cannot pick a ball your way.

1150
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,000
Speaker 1: You've got to have some big hitters here. I think

1151
00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:59,439
Speaker 1: they've got more talent to do that than Clemson. I'm

1152
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: just not sure that going to be able to do

1153
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: it against Ohio State.

1154
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:09,000
Speaker 2: Right, Thanks my first question, Yeah, second question, Second question is.

1155
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,840
Speaker 1: I mean he said it, which which Ohio State are

1156
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: we going to get? Man, Now, it's a couple weeks

1157
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 1: after the Michigan thing now, and we've openly acknowledged that

1158
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 1: this team trying to play bully ball is not the

1159
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: right approach. I think they proved as much with how

1160
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 1: that Michigan game went. I'm just fascinated to see what

1161
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: they try to do. I'm fascinated the matchup in the

1162
00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:39,200
Speaker 1: trenches between a very good Tennessee front and a questionable

1163
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 1: Ohio State offensive line, especially amid injuries. That's the matchup.

1164
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: That's the one thing that I think I'm going to

1165
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: watch when Ohio State's got the ball, because Tennessee absolutely

1166
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:52,440
Speaker 1: needs to disrupt the pass. This is a receiving corps

1167
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: that's got three, maybe more first rounders for Ohio State.

1168
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 1: I would expect, I would hope Ohio State decide to

1169
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: use them this time around and not do what they

1170
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 1: did against Michigan. Right, Tennessee had some trouble covering Georgia's receivers,

1171
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: which are not as good, So what does it look

1172
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 1: like against Jeremiah Smith or Carnell Tate or a Mecca

1173
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: Abuka right like these this is just a different class

1174
00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,439
Speaker 1: of wide outs altogether. And if we learned anything from

1175
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 1: that Georgia game, it's that the buckets should be able

1176
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: to eat here out wide. But do they choose to

1177
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 1: use it in a smart way. I think we know

1178
00:59:29,680 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: enough at this point that we're gonna get at least

1179
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: one bone headed throw from Will Howard. That's just been

1180
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: his mo his entire career. But he's completing seventy two

1181
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 1: seventy three percent of his passes Otherwise, he's been good

1182
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,040
Speaker 1: for Ohio State this season. They just need to find

1183
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: ways to get these receivers out there in space and

1184
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 1: see what they can do through the air. So that,

1185
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:51,320
Speaker 1: to me, it's a game plan question with Ohio State.

1186
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: How are they going to choose to use their their

1187
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 1: ferrari right? Are they going to drive at full speed?

1188
00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:58,360
Speaker 1: Are they going to drive it twenty five?

1189
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:03,560
Speaker 2: They're also, by the way, taking a patchwork is too negative,

1190
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 2: but they're down starters on this offensive line. They are,

1191
01:00:08,080 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 2: they've developed depth pretty well, all things considered, they'd be

1192
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 2: ahead of a lot of teams facing the same issue

1193
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:18,400
Speaker 2: down like Josh Simmons, a couple other guys on this line,

1194
01:00:19,040 --> 01:00:22,680
Speaker 2: and they're throwing this line up against one of the

1195
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:26,280
Speaker 2: best two or three defensive fronts in America. Yeah, and

1196
01:00:26,360 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: so they might have the intention to drop back and

1197
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:33,480
Speaker 2: throw downfield to a Mecca Buca and Jeremiah Smith and

1198
01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:37,640
Speaker 2: g Scott whoever else, But you have to have Will

1199
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: Howard get some time to do so and so. Intentions

1200
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 2: are great, wanting tos are great, but there's a potential

1201
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 2: mismatch involved with Tennessee up front rushing the passer that

1202
01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 2: no matter what Ohio State's break class situation is, if

1203
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: they don't aren't able to give Will Howard time Because

1204
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: I don't Ohio State has not been a great running

1205
01:01:03,080 --> 01:01:06,280
Speaker 2: team in these big matchups. No, with as good as

1206
01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 2: those running backs have been, they're going to need to

1207
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:13,760
Speaker 2: figure out ways to creatively get the ball to these

1208
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:17,400
Speaker 2: receivers at times. Not just we're going to protect Will Howard.

1209
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:19,240
Speaker 2: We're going to give them three seconds he's going to

1210
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 2: find man coverage or he's going to give Jeremiah Smith

1211
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 2: a fifty to fifty shot ball. That's that to me,

1212
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,120
Speaker 2: is going to be a big thing. It's also like,

1213
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,200
Speaker 2: are you buying low on Ryan Day and Chip Kelly.

1214
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,919
Speaker 2: Are you able to talk yourself into buying low on

1215
01:01:35,360 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 2: that offensive tandem in this kind of spot because that's

1216
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 2: what you're doing coming off of the Michigan game.

1217
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, they're.

1218
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 2: Going to have all the all the time in the world. See,

1219
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 2: this is going to be the talking point if they lose.

1220
01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:50,800
Speaker 2: It's like it's one thing to lose to Michigan with

1221
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 2: putting that much pressure on yourself to like out bully

1222
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: ball them after you've been bullied all these years. It's

1223
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:01,439
Speaker 2: another thing with sitting out the ten championship weekend, having

1224
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 2: an extra week to watch every single Tennessee defensive play

1225
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 2: and come to the conclusion, this is what we should do,

1226
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 2: this is how we're going to do it, this is

1227
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,439
Speaker 2: with whom we're going to do it, and come out

1228
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:17,479
Speaker 2: flat against Tennessee. I'm not saying you just score fifty

1229
01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 2: points against Tennessee, but there has to be a clear

1230
01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,320
Speaker 2: vision that's executed reasonably well given what Ohio State still

1231
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,919
Speaker 2: has on this offense. And if they don't show that,

1232
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:30,680
Speaker 2: even if they win thirteen to ten, he's like, what

1233
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: were you doing the whole time? You weren't able to

1234
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: generate anything. And so Tennessee on the road hasn't been

1235
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,760
Speaker 2: great this year. So you have the home crowd, home stadium,

1236
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 2: home weather, guys getting healthy. Maybe not on the offensive line,

1237
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 2: but everybody's legs are back under them to a certain extent.

1238
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 2: Tennessee struggling at Arkansas, obviously, struggling at Oklahoma for stretches,

1239
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: obviously struggling at Georgia. Obviously this is set up. There's

1240
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: a ton of pressure still on Ryan Day, so you

1241
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: still have to buy low on Ryan Day's ability to

1242
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:02,560
Speaker 2: navigate that pressure.

1243
01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: I think this is lower scoring. Same I have it

1244
01:03:06,840 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: at twenty four sixteen Ohio State.

1245
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:13,919
Speaker 2: Twenty one to seventeen Ohio State. Yeah, they hold off

1246
01:03:13,960 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 2: a late drive and get off the field for the win.

1247
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:20,040
Speaker 1: My stance is that I'm not sold in the Tennessee

1248
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: offense outside of Dylan Sampson and who has his own issues,

1249
01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:25,560
Speaker 1: puts it on theres too much. Yeah, has his own issues.

1250
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: Not in a game like this on the road at night,

1251
01:03:29,360 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 1: I have to believe the shoe is going to be crazy.

1252
01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: And I do think now as they put some distance

1253
01:03:35,080 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: between themselves and that Michigan loss, that there has been

1254
01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:44,439
Speaker 1: enough opportunity to refocus, hopefully to get their bearings here

1255
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: and figure out what the game plan should be, which

1256
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:49,360
Speaker 1: is not what they did against Michigan. Don't try it,

1257
01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:52,919
Speaker 1: don't try to run your way into a win here.

1258
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:56,640
Speaker 1: Just do what you're good at do where you're steer

1259
01:03:56,680 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 1: into your advantage, and their advantage here is out wide,

1260
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 1: so we'll see. I don't know, we'll see how Ryan

1261
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:06,360
Speaker 1: Day rebounds from what we saw in that Michigan game.

1262
01:04:06,920 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: As we've been saying here for a couple of weeks now,

1263
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: at winning cures everything. So you lose the Michigan game,

1264
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: that's its own work. But if you go on a

1265
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:19,680
Speaker 1: run here in the playoffs, which is entirely plausible, entirely plausible,

1266
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: then maybe all is forgiven. I don't know. I like

1267
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 1: Ohio State at least around one.

1268
01:04:25,560 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 2: Twenty one seventeen, buying a little bit low or buying

1269
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:33,040
Speaker 2: low a little bit, but I'm not fully there. But

1270
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: I think you're right. The home field advantage is hopefully

1271
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,880
Speaker 2: and there's been criticism about what the shoe is or

1272
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 2: isn't it has been this year, but I'm still a

1273
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 2: believer in this spot. It's too advantageous that I am

1274
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: buying low, right, you shouldn't have a ton of confidence

1275
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 2: in this spot in Ohio State. But I'd rather be

1276
01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: this game being Columbus than Tennessee if I'm a Buckeye.

1277
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,600
Speaker 1: So I think in terms of confidence, the game the

1278
01:05:01,880 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: outcome that I'm most confident and not the points spread.

1279
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,439
Speaker 1: I'm most confident in Texas beating Clemson. That probably goes

1280
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: without saying. Secondly, I would say after that, I would

1281
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:15,440
Speaker 1: put Penn State SMU, I put Notre Dame third, I

1282
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:18,360
Speaker 1: put this one last. I'm least confident in this outcome

1283
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 1: just because it's two really good teams. It's not so

1284
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,120
Speaker 1: much a knock on on either side. It's just two

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Speaker 1: really good teams. It's at night, everyone's going to be

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Speaker 1: watching this one primetime audience.

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Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to it. It should be fun. It

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Speaker 2: should it should be incredible. And by the way, with

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Speaker 2: the time off, with the three weeks or whatever off,

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01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 2: with to a certain extent, healing up, getting fresh legs,

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Speaker 2: getting some time in the you know, in the hot tub. Tie,

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Speaker 2: if both of these teams bring their A games, then

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Speaker 2: it's kind of an easy pick, right.

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Speaker 1: If both these teams bring their A game, it should

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Speaker 1: be Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: It should be Ohio State. Yeah, doesn't mean we're getting it,

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Speaker 2: but that's something I look at anyway. That's that's a

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Speaker 2: data point. They're like, oh, if Ohio State looks like

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Speaker 2: they look like against Indiana or something like that, and

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01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:07,880
Speaker 2: even that it wasn't a great a game performance, but sure,

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01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,040
Speaker 2: you know the best of Ohio State with Jeremiah Smith

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01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:12,400
Speaker 2: getting lose with the defense getting off the field quickly.

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Speaker 2: I think a game wise, it's Ohio state.

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Speaker 1: So we agree, we agree, We agree on all four

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01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: game winners, not necessarily the point spread right again. Two

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Speaker 1: live streams, three live streams if you count the recap

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Speaker 1: that we're doing at midnight immediately following this game. That's

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Speaker 1: all coming up this weekend. Playbowlbingo dot com. That's the

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Speaker 1: u R. I've been saying it a thousand times over.

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01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: I'm getting sick of saying it. But we're really excited

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01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,400
Speaker 1: about the game. The feedback has been really strong and

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,800
Speaker 1: people are excited. All I got to do is sign

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01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,760
Speaker 1: up for free out on our Patreon. Once you sign up,

1314
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: you get the link. I am also going to open

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Speaker 1: up a discord channel for people who are unfamiliar with

1316
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 1: our discord just so that you can go in there

1317
01:06:56,240 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: and play Bowl Bingo. Okay, so you won't be able

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01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 1: to get to everything that we've got, you know, behind

1319
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:03,800
Speaker 1: the paywall, but I want to give people who are

1320
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: playing this game a chance to communicate with other members

1321
01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: of the community who are also playing this game. Maybe

1322
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,439
Speaker 1: get some help on making your picks, maybe talk through

1323
01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 1: your picks, yeah, all that type of stuff. It's it's

1324
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Speaker 1: a fun game. There's no reason that you shouldn't be

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01:07:17,160 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 1: able to talk to other people playing it. So I

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Speaker 1: want to I'm going to set that up. Sabotage other

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01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:24,400
Speaker 1: people or sabotage. Sure, that's your call.

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01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:25,640
Speaker 2: To it's your competitive spirit.

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01:07:25,720 --> 01:07:27,680
Speaker 1: Sure, depending how dark you want to get with all this.

1330
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 1: But I will post that link as well for people

1331
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,160
Speaker 1: who are interested in seeing what that community is all about,

1332
01:07:33,160 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 1: so that that's to come as well. And as I said,

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Speaker 1: we'll be talking prising, we'll be talking about all sorts

1334
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: of other fun stuff on our next episode. Just to

1335
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: get you ready for it, I should add that week

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01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:47,880
Speaker 1: one locks on Friday, so you have a couple of

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01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,320
Speaker 1: days here. This is dropping to the feed on Tuesday morning.

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01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,440
Speaker 1: You've got like three whole days. It kick said whatever

1339
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,280
Speaker 1: kickoff is on Friday, I guess a PM Eastern. That's

1340
01:07:57,320 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: when all of these first round Bingo card items lock,

1341
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,520
Speaker 1: and when you'll have an opportunity to, at some point

1342
01:08:06,560 --> 01:08:09,360
Speaker 1: shortly thereafter fill in round two. But you got to

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01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 1: get him in before Friday. By the way, for those

1344
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:16,320
Speaker 1: who are interested, the Bingo card items that are on

1345
01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 1: for our playoff items here for our playoff games. Notre

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01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: Dame minus seven and a half versus Indiana easy if

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01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:26,680
Speaker 1: you want to go point spread. If you want to

1348
01:08:26,680 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 1: get a little crazy with it, Notre Dame blocked field

1349
01:08:29,080 --> 01:08:32,559
Speaker 1: goal or punt versus Indiana. Okay, well, they block a

1350
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 1: field goal or a punt. It's something that they've been

1351
01:08:34,240 --> 01:08:37,479
Speaker 1: particularly good at this season. I've got Penn State minus

1352
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:41,599
Speaker 1: eight and a half against SMU. Or if you want

1353
01:08:41,640 --> 01:08:43,519
Speaker 1: to take a little bit of a difference, spin on SMU.

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01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,479
Speaker 1: I've got SMU over seventeen and a half total points

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Speaker 1: against Penn State.

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01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 2: Okay, nice, not like that.

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01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 1: I've got Clemson plus the points against Texas as one

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01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:58,400
Speaker 1: side of the bet. I've also got Quinn youewers over

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01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:01,679
Speaker 1: one and a half inner options against Clemson as another

1360
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: option for you. So if you want to bet against

1361
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,920
Speaker 1: big game Quinn, this is your opportunity to do that.

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01:09:07,640 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: I've got Ohio State minus the number against Tennessee. I've

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01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: also got to Ohio State over twenty seven and a

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01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: half points against Tennessee. So if you like Ohio State,

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01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: how much do you like Ohio State? Do you want

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01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:22,599
Speaker 1: to go that one instead? And then I've got three

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01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 1: other bigger picture playoff bets that you can pick from. Okay,

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01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 1: one any lower seeded team wins a first round playoff game.

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Speaker 2: Oh I like that.

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Speaker 1: Another one at least one fake punt attempt in a

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01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:40,599
Speaker 1: first round college football playoff game. And then the last

1372
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Speaker 1: one is a college football playoff game goes to overtime.

1373
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: So you can pick any of those. The way the

1374
01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 1: game works, we gave you thirty five items, so you

1375
01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: have to pick six that you think are going to happen.

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01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:54,240
Speaker 1: We talk through a good number of the other ones

1377
01:09:54,280 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 1: on the last episode. Go listen to that. But they're

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Speaker 1: all out there right now.

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Speaker 2: I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a lot of fun. Dan Rubistine, good show.

1381
01:10:03,360 --> 01:10:09,040
Speaker 1: I have good preview. I remain conflicted on many of

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01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:09,759
Speaker 1: these choices.

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01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:10,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's okay.

1384
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:12,599
Speaker 1: It's good to talk them through with you. At least

1385
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: you're feeling the same. Would encourage everybody out there in

1386
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,120
Speaker 1: the for bowlerhood. Hit us up on social media or

1387
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 1: drop us a line at soliverble at gmail dot com.

1388
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: Let us know your thoughts. Again. We've got two live

1389
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:26,280
Speaker 1: streams coming up. We've got playbowlbingo dot com. We've always

1390
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: got verbowlers dot com if you want to support what

1391
01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 1: Dan and I do. A lot going on right now

1392
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 1: in the verballer hood. We're thrilled to have you with us.

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01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: Yes, close as I have to an upset by the way,

1394
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: the lower seeded team because you mentioned that as an

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01:10:37,720 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: item would be it actually would be Indiana.

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Speaker 1: It would be Indiana. It would definitely be Indiana. Yeah.

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01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:46,919
Speaker 2: I mean you said you had the most difficulty picking

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01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:48,640
Speaker 2: Ohio State Tennessee, which I agree with.

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if I were picking a lower seed to

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01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: be a higher seat, it would be Indiana and beat

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01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:53,639
Speaker 1: Notre Dame.

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01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:57,759
Speaker 2: And it's it's because of the lack of opponents, really,

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01:10:58,080 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage.

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01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 1: Lack of data dat. Yeah. Yeah, we're just going and

1405
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: we're freelancing this thing.

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01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 2: Man in Indiana. How far is Bloomington from South Bend.

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01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:09,240
Speaker 2: Probably not terribly far. It's not a weather disadvantage, it's

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01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:10,120
Speaker 2: not a travel.

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01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: And a half two hours. But I had a venture.

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01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: I guess I don't know at the end of that.

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01:11:13,320 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 2: Well, but so I don't know. There's something there. That's all.

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Speaker 1: Everybody stop by for the streams, get in on the

1413
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: game before it's too late. We will talk to you

1414
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,240
Speaker 1: all soon. Yeah, we will enjoy the playoffs. Everybody, stay solid.

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Speaker 2: Peace,