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Speaker 1: Second Date updated. Imagine the night is alive with chaos.

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Speaker 1: Zombies are stumbling down the streets, Witches are cackling maniacally.

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Speaker 1: You hear the screams, you see the horrors, you smell

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Speaker 1: the fireball, and that's when you realize, Oh, I'm in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a Halloween bark crawl right here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and for all the terrifying sights you'll definitely see, it

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Speaker 1: might also be the perfect setting for you to find

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Speaker 1: true love. And that's where one of our listeners made

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Speaker 1: a connection recently, and he's emailed us for help today

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Speaker 1: with a spooky theme. Second Date update that his name

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Speaker 1: is Evan. So, Evan, we got to catch up. How

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Speaker 1: many shots deep are you right now?

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Speaker 2: You know it's a workday. I'm not gonna take shot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to know what you were dressed as

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Speaker 3: That's how I want to start.

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Speaker 2: Most important, when is star Lord? Some guardians? I think

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Speaker 2: I have a look that matches?

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Speaker 4: Is that the Chris Pratt?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Is that hot look?

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Speaker 1: Or doesn't that like cover most of you?

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Speaker 4: I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: The movie.

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Speaker 4: I see the movie. Yeah, it doesn't stick out a

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Speaker 4: ton to me.

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Speaker 1: But okay, so we don't approve of your costume. Can

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Speaker 1: you come up with a new one?

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Speaker 4: Do people know what you were?

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Speaker 1: I guess that's the question. People knew Okay.

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Speaker 2: He's a charismatic character.

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Speaker 1: I would trust other people to know stuff more than

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Speaker 1: this group, definitely do. So tell us about this woman

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Speaker 1: that you met while you were doing your bar crawl.

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Speaker 1: What's her name?

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Speaker 2: Oh, her name is Calissa, Calista. I honestly can't remember

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Speaker 2: which bar that we met, but it was we were

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Speaker 2: both a two big groups, and our groups just sort

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Speaker 2: of naturally kind of like started going on this crawl together.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's the whole point of barkrawls, right to

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Speaker 3: meet new people people.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, totally. I thought it was just to get drunk

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Speaker 1: that I thought the social thing was kind of secondary.

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Speaker 1: So you just like happened to meet people.

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Speaker 6: You could go hop between bars and drink alone anytime exactly, But.

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Speaker 1: This one you're wearing costumes, so fun.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would definitely agree with all of that.

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Speaker 2: I was definitely probably steering our group to sick with

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Speaker 2: hers because I was into her, whereas my friends just

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Speaker 2: wanted to keep drinking. They didn't care about the social part.

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Speaker 1: So I'll look up with your friends after we're done

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Speaker 1: with this call because they seem like my type of people.

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Speaker 3: How did you and clust I mean, like, what was

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Speaker 3: the connection between you two?

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Speaker 4: What did you have in common?

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Speaker 2: I mean I think it was just like our type

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Speaker 2: of sense of humor. We just loved the people watching

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Speaker 2: and looking at people's costumes and how silly they looked.

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Speaker 2: The cheaper the better, we really we realized interesting, like

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Speaker 2: something that looked like it was just pulled off the

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Speaker 2: shelf of Spirit Halloween the hours before, like the.

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Speaker 1: Big Okay, so you're bonding over the sh shared interest

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Speaker 1: of judging other people for their weird costume decisions decisions

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Speaker 1: is what it was. Yeah, okay, that could be fun.

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Speaker 1: So how did then I go?

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Speaker 2: I thought it was gone great? I mean we were

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Speaker 2: having a great time. One of the bars had just

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Speaker 2: paper I'm assuming it was from one of their trivia nights,

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Speaker 2: his papers and pen and we just started like giving

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Speaker 5: Like we just picked people and be like you have

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Speaker 5: like the craziest food costume, you have the ugliest blank costume,

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Speaker 5: the second worst costume of this bar.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome.

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 1: So you and Callista made a lot of enemies that night.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like your own world, and that's all that matters,

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Speaker 1: is you two. Right, Even if someone's upset, you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, we really made that guy mad. Let's

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Speaker 1: make out.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, wait, did that happen? Did you make out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: Good question.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't call the makeout, but yeah, at the last

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Speaker 2: bar of the night, we definitely kissed out the book

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Speaker 2: we kissed. Yes, yeah, that's happened.

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Speaker 1: You're painting a really nice much for us. We want

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Speaker 1: to know, is there anything in your mind that you

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Speaker 2: On the last bar, they had a dance floor, and

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Speaker 2: she really wanted to get out on the dance floor,

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Speaker 2: regardless of what I was dressed up by us, Because

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Speaker 2: we know star Ward is a dancer. I am not

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Speaker 2: a dancer. It's just not my thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Like you're a bad dancer or you won't even try.

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Speaker 2: All of the above.

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Speaker 1: Did she try to pull you in and dance with

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Speaker 1: you at some point?

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Speaker 2: You said multiple times.

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Speaker 3: It is a bummer, because it's like, in my mind,

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Speaker 3: there's no such thing as a bad dancer. If you

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Speaker 3: fully commit your fun, no matter how good you are

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Speaker 3: at Yeah, exactly, that's exactly what bad dancers saying.

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Speaker 1: All that matters is I'm having a good time. Last

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Speaker 1: place in the dance kicked off every dance floor. So

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Speaker 1: you're thinking that she's just turned off because you came

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Speaker 1: across this kind of a party pooper, Is that right? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: I think she might think I'm just some stick in

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Speaker 2: the mud or a bit of a lay o, and

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Speaker 2: I'm I mean, We've had a lot of text back

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Speaker 2: and forth. It's just non commit she won't commit to

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe having a radio station call. We'll prove that

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Speaker 4: you're a fun guy. You know, there we go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if that's the case, Alexis, would this

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Speaker 1: be a deal breaker for you if you're out with

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I can't look back alone out there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I think of all the weddings you have to go

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Speaker 3: to in the future up a couple, Dancing is such

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Speaker 3: an important part social life.

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Speaker 1: Well, let's see if ironically you dug your own grave

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Speaker 1: on Halloween barcrawl when we come back and get you

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Speaker 1: your second date update. Right after this second date update,

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Speaker 1: imagine the movie Footloose, but instead of Kevin Bacon being

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Speaker 1: told not to dance, he chooses not to.

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Speaker 4: That's right, because.

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Speaker 1: He's embarrassed about his lack of dance movie. Yes, that's

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Speaker 1: exactly what we're dealing with today. Reverse footloose for our

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Speaker 1: listener Evan, who met a woman named Callista during a

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Speaker 1: Halloween bar crawl, but when Callista tried to get him

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Speaker 1: out on the dance floor, he said, no, sweetheart, Daddy,

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Speaker 1: don't move like that.

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Speaker 4: He just sits in the corner.

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Speaker 1: Is that the reason that Callista's been avoiding another hangout.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to get to the bottom of it today

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Speaker 1: with your Halloween themed second date update. Yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: hoping someone else would jump in, and.

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Speaker 3: I was hoping that he would answer you.

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Speaker 2: I'm still here.

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Speaker 1: Was a terrifying recap for you, Evan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was kind of. I was like, oh, no,

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Speaker 2: this is probably gonna go bad.

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Speaker 3: Honestly, I don't know if it even has to do

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Speaker 3: with the d see, it may just be like Halloween's

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Speaker 3: meant kind of for just like flirting and hooking up.

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Speaker 1: Why, Yeah, nothing to do with your dance. It might

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Speaker 1: just be your personality sucks.

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Speaker 3: Bro, Like you're out in costume, You're not looking for

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Speaker 3: a relationship typically, So maybe that's just not where her

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Speaker 1: You think she's a fluozy.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't say that.

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Speaker 1: What do you think? I don't really know.

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Speaker 3: I just mean, like you're out partying on Halloween, it's

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Speaker 3: not meant to be more dates.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the guy had like a fun makeout and doesn't

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Speaker 1: accept that.

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Speaker 3: It was just a fun Yeah, that's why does everyone

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Speaker 3: else get me except Jeff?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, just ever had just a fun makeout?

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Speaker 1: JEFA no thanks. I mean, could that be the case, Evan,

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Speaker 1: where you're taking this as a more serious connection than

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Speaker 1: what Callista saw it as more of like a one

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Speaker 2: That could be the case. I guess I just misread it.

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Speaker 4: I don't think that's bad. I think it's something you

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Speaker 4: can fix.

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Speaker 1: Right, Clearly he wants more. Yeah, we're putting in the effort.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna at least call and try and figure out why.

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Speaker 1: And bro, even if it was just a kiss, like

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Speaker 1: you just know you're attractive enough for her to come

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Speaker 1: and make out with you, you should feel good about.

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Speaker 4: That because I only made out with hot guys. I

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Speaker 1: You look like Star Wars. Okay, that's not undermine anybody's confidence.

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Speaker 1: We're just gonna call her and hopefully she picks up it.

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Speaker 1: Here we go. Hello, Hey, we're looking to speak with Callista.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is a radio show. We're called Brook and

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Speaker 1: Jeffrey in the Morning. Hey, good morning.

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Speaker 2: Hi.

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Speaker 1: This is a segment that we do. It's called a

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Speaker 1: second Date Update.

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Speaker 6: Okay, okay, so, uh.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to help out one of our listeners that

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Speaker 1: you met the other night. He described a really cool

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Speaker 1: hangout between the two of you at a bar crawl.

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Speaker 4: He described a really drunk hangout between the two of you.

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Speaker 1: Cool, drunk fun. It was all the emotions. And I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about a guy named Evan.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, maybe she likes him to be called star

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Speaker 3: Lord instead, and that is a problem, is that, right, Clysta,

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Speaker 3: star Lord?

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Speaker 6: You like that better, not necessarily star Daddy.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, look, if you weren't feeling it with

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Speaker 1: him that much, then we understand, we get it. But

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Speaker 1: we spoke with Evan and he was saying he felt

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Speaker 1: and now you just you don't seem to want to

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Speaker 6: I mean, we had a fun night, but it was

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Speaker 6: what it was like, It didn't I don't think it's

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Speaker 6: like a long term thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, is that just because it was Halloween and

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Speaker 3: you're at a bar crawl and it's just drinks deep.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's not where your mind was at.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: I mean, I don't know what he told you or

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Speaker 6: I don't know how this works, but we had a

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Speaker 6: kind of serious conversation. Oh and it was just like

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Speaker 6: a real turn off for me.

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Speaker 4: Oh turn off?

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Speaker 1: Are you saying you had a conversation because we heard

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Speaker 1: that you talked about other people's costumes and how horrible

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the serious It sounds like she's talking about that.

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Speaker 1: She could read it as a serious This guy's really

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Speaker 1: judgmental about other people in their last.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: I think that was that was the fun part, Okay. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean I was trying to have fun with him

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Speaker 6: and get him to dance with me, and now he

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Speaker 6: basically told me he doesn't like dancing because when he

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Speaker 3: So WHOA, all of that sounds so serious. He's probably

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Speaker 4: Why you can't ye school play one time.

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Speaker 6: But still can't dance as an adult, Like that's crazy,

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you see you You took him very very

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Speaker 6: I asked him to dance like three times, like he

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Speaker 1: I Oh, and his reason for not dancing that he

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Speaker 2: Oh, it wasn't for a play. It was for the

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Speaker 6: Watch the guys on my phone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, sorry about that Callista, but Evan is actually on

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my mom would force me into this thing in

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Speaker 2: This is like from ten years old till fifteen I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm like a sixteen stock group using to do it.

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Speaker 1: And because okay, so it scarred you from Halloween. Just

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Speaker 2: You're making me say it again. Okay, sorry, my mom

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Speaker 1: On your head.

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Speaker 5: I love that something.

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Speaker 2: I became pumpkin Man to everybody. I was known as

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but like it was such a long time ago.

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Speaker 6: Like I just if you're not gonna have fun and

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Speaker 1: Not everyone likes to dance. We have friends I don't

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Speaker 3: It sounds like Calista and your mom may have more

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Speaker 2: Well, look, you're right, you gave him the I probably

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Speaker 6: But so like, hypothetically, if we went to my friend's

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Speaker 2: It was just the idea that you were just like

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Speaker 1: So, Calyssa, to answer your question, if your friend invited

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Speaker 6: We're not inviting anyone's mom's to weddings.

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Speaker 3: I think you're thinking of this the wrong way though, Calisa, like,

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Speaker 6: I mean, honestly, I was going to say, like hard no,

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Speaker 1: Okay, I.

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Speaker 2: Like, does that not exist?

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Speaker 1: No, it's on, Evan, if you're willing to commit to

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Speaker 1: I gotta do. I'm perfect.

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Speaker 3: Now we're joking, but I think that what he's trying

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Speaker 3: to say is that everybody comes with baggage, Okay, and

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Speaker 4: You can say, dating the pumpkin King, yeah.

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Speaker 6: I mean all right, but you have to dance with

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Speaker 6: me next time we're going dance the second date. I'm

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Speaker 6: only going if you go dancing with me.

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Speaker 2: Wow.

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Speaker 1: As long as he doesn't have to dress in an orange,

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'd be open to wearing still the pumpkin

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Speaker 1: Well, that just shows off his gun.

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Speaker 3: At this point, I see, all right, so I'm going

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Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't even carve pumpkins as a couple.

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Speaker 1: Stay away from them. Yeah, that's our suggestion, but again,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do it. I'll get out there. I'll show

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Speaker 4: No one expects guys to have many moves.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Why do I feel like, after like

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Speaker 4: They let him come back every year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Lord of the Pumpkins is what he is.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, i'm, I'm I'm proud of you.

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Speaker 1: I mean I'm I was sounding like his mom.

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Speaker 6: Now, I was expecting to say no, like one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: So actually going to do his dance, gentlemen, all right,

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Speaker 1: I'll go back to Kevin Bacon again rooking Jeffrey in

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Speaker 1: the morning. Oh man, I forgot to ask if she

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Speaker 1: wanted to go with him to his therapy session after

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Speaker 1: they got appetizers and chilis. That's where I went wrong

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Speaker 1: with this. It's the perfect pairing. Little baby back ribs

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Speaker 3: Oh man, Oh, I mean, gosh, if this was your mom, Jeffrey,

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Speaker 3: doing the dance and that's spandex, but then talked about

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's the thing my mom continues to traumatize

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Speaker 1: me well into adults on. I'm not going to the past.

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Speaker 1: I'm not ready for therapy yet. It's trauma in progress. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's cool that they went out together,

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Speaker 1: that they agreed to give it a shot. Text nine

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Speaker 1: two if you think they're actually a good match for each.

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Speaker 3: Other, okay, yeah, and share your trauma stories from your.

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Speaker 1: Child Is that what we want on the textboard?

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Speaker 6: We all have okay about dancing videos instead.

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Speaker 1: Say your child hood traumas directly to Brooks Instagram Brook

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Speaker 1: Fox Fox. Yeah is that right?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we're trauma bonded.

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Speaker 1: There we go, and remember you can find all of

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Speaker 1: your second date updates. We put them up on our

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Speaker 1: podcast wherever you get them at Brook and Jeffrey