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Speaker 1: Hey, what a both man.

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Speaker 2: I'm Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 3: This is all ball man.

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Speaker 4: We had a special treat for you.

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Speaker 3: As some of you know, I've become a lot more

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Speaker 3: engrossed in youth basketball. My dad was a longtime AU coach.

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Speaker 3: He had a basketball academy he was He used all

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Speaker 3: his connections in recruiting to help place kids forever and

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Speaker 3: then turn that into a business. And it's interesting because

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Speaker 3: with my own son, I've kind of reworked it and

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Speaker 3: I've coached really sixth, seventh and eighth grade basketball for

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Speaker 3: the last four years or so as our kids have

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Speaker 3: matriculated to high school. Now I have players that I've

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Speaker 3: coached that are sophomores in high school and the plan

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Speaker 3: is for this spring to get hardcore into high school

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Speaker 3: AAU basketball.

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Speaker 2: My own sons in.

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Speaker 3: Eighth grade, so I've gotten a little bit of the landscape.

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Speaker 3: And last year I became kind of knowledge about about

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Speaker 3: T three TV. It's run by a guy named Terry Holt.

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Speaker 3: It's in just Mason, Ohio, and Terry's got an interesting backstory.

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Speaker 3: And when I tell you this is the hottest of

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Speaker 3: the hot camps, if you will, that's exactly what this

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Speaker 3: thing is next weekend, and that's the weekend of the

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Speaker 3: third through the fifth, the T three TV. This is

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Speaker 3: the fourth year I believe they've haven't. You can have

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Speaker 3: over six hundred kids, six hundred. Now it's not for everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's not, you know, the purest, the greatest of pure

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Speaker 3: basketball in terms of movement and player relocation. There's a

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Speaker 3: lot of stuff to it. And it's interesting because I've

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Speaker 3: gotten a chance to spend a lot of time around

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Speaker 3: a couple of college basketball programs, specifically this year in

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Speaker 3: Oklahoma State, and you know, the rewiring of players, even

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Speaker 3: really really talented young players to fit a college system

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Speaker 3: in a college style. And look Oklahoma State style for example,

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Speaker 3: everything they're running, for the most part in terms of

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Speaker 3: sets or mirror sets that you see run in FIBA

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Speaker 3: and run in the NBA. So when I say to

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Speaker 3: fit a college system, it sounds like you're trying to

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Speaker 3: do a square pay round hole. But the truth is

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Speaker 3: that's how they're going to play basketball the rest of

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Speaker 3: our lives. So you do have to kind of rewire

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Speaker 3: kids and help them understand that. You know, playing downhill

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Speaker 3: in high school and AAU and prep school ball that

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Speaker 3: may work, but now you get against like size, like

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Speaker 3: athletic kids, and some players aren't able to play downhill.

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Speaker 3: Matter of fact, when you watch the NBA as much

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Speaker 3: as Jason Tatum's in his bag, you know, you look

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Speaker 3: around the court and there's three or four other guys

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Speaker 3: that they don't dribble, or maybe rule of two, which

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Speaker 3: is you know you get two seconds too, dribbles always

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Speaker 3: play off two feet.

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Speaker 2: It's a very kind of standard way of playing.

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Speaker 3: You know, yes, you'll have one guy who gets a

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Speaker 3: chance to go one on one, but maybe one guy

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Speaker 3: And many of the players played in college aren't that

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Speaker 3: one guy, or at least not yet. But there is

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Speaker 3: something to the having camp where kids just try and

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Speaker 3: show themselves and have fun. You know, at the end

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Speaker 3: of the day, it is supposed to be about growing

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Speaker 3: your own kind of personal brand. Seeing all the rest

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Speaker 3: of the players around the country, seeing how they play,

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Speaker 3: what they're like, learning a little bit about them, and

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Speaker 3: watching them play, watching their movements, and you can it

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Speaker 3: doesn't it's not hard to figure out who the best

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Speaker 3: of the best are. It's not hard to figure out

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Speaker 3: who moves better and who's more athletic now once you

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Speaker 3: get to middle school, really six strade on, a lot

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Speaker 3: of it becomes about when you've hit puberty. If you've

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Speaker 3: hit puberty, early bloomers oftentimes reap the benefits more so

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Speaker 3: than late bloomers. But late bloomers, I mean, look at

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Speaker 3: the Golden State Warriors, right, I mean Steph Curry, late

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Speaker 2: Andrew Wiggins is not a late bloomer.

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Speaker 3: But I would say Raymond Green was heavy in college,

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Speaker 3: good player, but had to lose a bunch of weight.

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Speaker 3: But the point is, you go through the roster, you'll

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Speaker 3: find several late bloomers. Especially they're two superstars who have

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Speaker 3: late bloomers. Anyway, without further ado, I thought you'd enjoy this.

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Speaker 3: This is me Terry Holt catching up in regards to

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Speaker 3: his camp, which still has some open spots. So, Terry,

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Speaker 3: when people think of you and your family think of football,

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Speaker 3: I just do Thmas football.

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Speaker 4: When did you first start hooping?

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Speaker 5: Well, I first started hooping when I was about twelve

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Speaker 5: years old, you know when basically went in the alley,

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Speaker 5: taught myself, you know, begged my grandma to sign me

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Speaker 5: up for you know, the local team, and you know,

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Speaker 4: What was it like when you who be like in

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Speaker 4: high school?

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Speaker 5: Well, basically in high school, you know, I was kind

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Speaker 5: of like an average player, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 1: Point guard, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: Like, you know, I was kind of like a nervous

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Speaker 5: And that's what kind of you know, that's why I

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Speaker 5: kind of like helping the kids now, like build their

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Speaker 5: confidence and stuff like that. Like when I'm at the camp,

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Speaker 5: you know, I kind of hype them up, you know,

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Speaker 5: help them get up on like the national rankings and

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Speaker 5: just anything to build the confidence man of a kid.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting.

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Speaker 3: It's interesting because I because the little I know you,

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Speaker 3: I would never think you'd lack confidence.

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Speaker 4: What changed?

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Speaker 3: What? What changing you personally that allowed you to build

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Speaker 3: you on some.

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Speaker 5: Well basically just you know kind of the stuff I

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Speaker 5: went through in my life, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: just basically you know, back when I was younger. You know,

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Speaker 5: like a lot of kids suffer from things that I

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Speaker 5: suffered from far as like peer pressure and just caring

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Speaker 5: about what other people think. And you know, so all

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Speaker 5: of that, you know my story, you know, all of

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: What was the toughest time you went through.

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Speaker 5: Well, the toughest time of my life. I went through

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Speaker 5: with well one of them. I got out a couple

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Speaker 5: of those. I'm gonna name one of them, you know

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Speaker 5: what I mean, far as pertaining to the business. One

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Speaker 5: like let's say, uh, you know, a couple of days

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Speaker 5: it was about a week before the camp, you know,

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Speaker 5: not a couple of days like my shipment of jerseys

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Speaker 5: for the kids, you know what I mean. Somebody basically

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Speaker 5: you know, took them, you know what I mean. But

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Speaker 5: I still made it happen. It just was a tough time.

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Speaker 4: Did they take him out of your car or do

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Speaker 4: they take him ride?

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Speaker 1: Now?

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Speaker 5: He basically he basically just kind of like you know

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Speaker 5: what they call it, finest me on the money, Like

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Speaker 5: I kind of sent you the money for the jerseys

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Speaker 5: and he never sent me you know what I needed

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Speaker 1: But you know that was just one time, you know probably.

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Speaker 2: So what so what was that like?

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Speaker 1: So?

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Speaker 3: So for people who don't know T three TV? How

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Speaker 3: many kids did you have.

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Speaker 1: Lift ship oh Man, five hundred and forty kids?

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Speaker 3: You got five hundred and forty kids. How many days

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Speaker 3: before camp did you realize you didn't have the jerseys?

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Speaker 5: Well, it was probably I was reaching out to him

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Speaker 5: probably like fourteen days before the camp, just kind of like, hey,

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Speaker 5: when you're gonna send them, when you're gonna send them,

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Speaker 5: when you're gonna send them, And it was just.

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Speaker 1: No response, you know.

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Speaker 5: So I kind of like snapped into it probably like

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Speaker 5: set six seven days and I kind of had to

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Speaker 5: pay a lot more money to get the jerseys even

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Speaker 4: How the camp comes to be? How did you come

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Speaker 5: Well, basically, I first my son, you know, I had

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Speaker 5: so you know, I basically going into local IMCA. So

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Speaker 5: I was recording videos on my phone, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean, and uh, I just like start making videos

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Speaker 1: He started. I kept training him. He basically went viral.

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Speaker 5: I bought a camera, Like hold on, man, I kind

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Speaker 5: of you know, I kind of can do this. So

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Speaker 5: I started making videos on other kids, and then I

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Speaker 5: I kind of like start seeing so many kids. So

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Speaker 5: I developed like a ranking system for for the youth,

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Speaker 5: know who is who for right now, you know what

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Speaker 5: I mean. Like, you know, we all know rankings at

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Speaker 5: it's it's all fun for the kids, and uh that

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Speaker 5: kind I kind of developed a passion for, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Man, Like I just like to see.

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Speaker 4: So how long how long ago was your first camp?

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Speaker 1: Four years ago?

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Speaker 5: I'm the kids first camp, man, I blew him out

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Speaker 5: the water Man three hundred and I think thirty maybe

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Speaker 3: When you when you start, when you start playing this

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Speaker 4: I made you really think you were going to do.

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Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie men. I thought I was gonna bust.

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Speaker 5: I thought I was gonna I thought I was gonna

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Speaker 5: get shit. I was scared. I thought I was gonna

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Speaker 5: get seventy kids. I thought it was over. And then

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Speaker 5: it was just like that, man, like they came. Like

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Speaker 5: you know, I always made looked out for the like

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Speaker 5: the really good kids. So I think that kind of

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Speaker 5: helped me in the long run, like far as me

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Speaker 5: seeing them at an event and I'll make a video

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Speaker 5: on them, and then I somehow, you know, let put

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Speaker 5: them on the rankings. And then it just developed in

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Speaker 5: the two where I start being kind and like a

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Speaker 5: little bit accurate, Like, you know, I got some real

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Speaker 5: kids that came through my camp, you know what I mean,

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Speaker 5: Like number one player AJ the BESTA. I'm probably saying

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Speaker 5: this name wrong. You know, that's a good friend of man.

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Speaker 5: He came through the camp. Uh, you know, I got

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Speaker 5: I got a lot of them, man like Jerry Eastern,

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Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Like, I got a lot

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Speaker 5: of kids that potential pros that's gone.

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Speaker 1: I'm me talking a lot of trash in the Future Man.

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Speaker 3: Show show you end up having three hundred and thirty

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Speaker 3: kids or so the first one. Right, So what happens

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Speaker 3: when you have success in the basketball of any world

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Speaker 3: is now said, everybody wants to be your friend.

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Speaker 4: Everybody wants to speak right, Yeah, like just as.

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Speaker 4: What? What's the secret?

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Speaker 5: Well, the secret is, man, you got you gotta you

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Speaker 2: You got.

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Speaker 1: Mixtapes.

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Speaker 5: You gotta kind of and you gotta kind of represent

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Speaker 5: Just you gotta you gotta get in with the people

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Speaker 3: Who's the person who helps you stay the organized much?

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Speaker 3: People don't have to know who he or she is.

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Speaker 3: Who's the person who is like, man, this one's my rock.

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Speaker 5: She without her, I mean, man, I would be laid

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Speaker 3: So then, so does she get Does she get to

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Speaker 1: I got to shoot her the vegas I got too.

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Speaker 1: We might come out there this man, we might. We

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Speaker 3: Out there, Come come kick it. Whenever you started this

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Speaker 3: because of your son. This is this is Terry right, Yes, hey,

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Speaker 3: he's what year.

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Speaker 5: Well, basically, you know, first, you know, he get up

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Speaker 4: Who's he look up the who's the guy?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 5: Other than other than your boy? Other than your boy

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Speaker 5: In the final I feel like it's it's good, but

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Speaker 3: But you got you got, you got thirteen Division in schools, right,

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Speaker 3: We have the same the same problem at a bigger

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Speaker 1: We'll have a monster.

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Speaker 5: We'll have a monster, like like every grade left talking

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Speaker 5: But I wish you could, man, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 1: Some good competition, no question.

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Speaker 4: Okay, what about tilling your youngest son?

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Speaker 1: I was he six years old?

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Speaker 4: Six years old?

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Speaker 1: Baby man, My baby boy, My baby boy.

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 1: He now start?

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Speaker 4: Is he going to be the monster?

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Speaker 1: He gonna be the monster?

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: I really feel like he got the potential to be

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Speaker 1: That guy.

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Speaker 5: Man, he has a personality. He will make you laugh.

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Speaker 5: He smile a lot, you know what I mean. He's

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: He a hooper too. We just we just we're just

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 4: How many so Harry's videos have going viral?

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Speaker 3: Everybody in the circuit knows who is what's what's the

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Speaker 5: Man, he got a few of them that got a

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Speaker 5: where he was he crossed probably about twelve kids and

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Speaker 5: Lebron James posted about him one time. It wasn't It

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Speaker 5: wasn't a I ain't gonna say it was a good post,

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Speaker 5: but Lebron James saying your name or I mean sharing

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Speaker 5: don't matter what he's say.

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Speaker 3: So what how are you kind of on him? Level headed?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 4: It's like he's a thing.

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Speaker 3: He watched the gym and he's eleven years old and

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Speaker 4: How do you keep paying kind of at the right level.

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Speaker 3: We don't want to kill his confidence, right, but you

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Speaker 3: don't want to walk around with the big head and

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Speaker 3: be arrogant and be some of the people do on

446
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Speaker 3: the mind.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's kind of that's kind of the

448
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Speaker 5: roughest part of with me and him is the balance

449
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Speaker 5: of being coached and day. You get what I'm saying,

450
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Speaker 5: Like sometimes he needs me to comfort him, and you know,

451
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Speaker 5: you know how dads are, man, We're pretty hard on

452
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Speaker 5: our kids sometimes, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And it's definitely that's definitely a hard part to balance.

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Speaker 5: But I kind of stay on him so he won't

455
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Speaker 5: because it's me and you both know how hard it

456
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Speaker 5: is to get to the league, you know what I mean.

457
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Speaker 5: So I kind of can't let him get big headed

458
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Speaker 5: right now because this is just like only we're not

459
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Speaker 5: even in the beginning yet, you know what I mean,

460
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Speaker 5: Until we touch the high school floor, you know what

461
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Speaker 5: I mean, Like then the process begins.

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Speaker 1: So I just you know, you got to be humble, man.

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Speaker 5: I'm definitely a believer of a higher power, you know

464
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Speaker 5: what I mean, And I just believe that humble man

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Speaker 5: always win, you know what I'm.

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Speaker 4: Saying, no question, no question. An umber yourself in order

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Speaker 4: to learn and be taught as well.

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Speaker 3: For sure, if if somebody wants to let let's you

469
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Speaker 3: only have a handful of spots line. I bet that

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Speaker 3: at the time we're gonna put this out, there's still

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Speaker 3: some spots. How can somebody get their kid in the fen.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, they can go to my website www

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Speaker 5: dot T three TV sports dot com.

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Speaker 1: You know they will see the flyer.

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Speaker 5: They can click on the link and you know, just

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Speaker 5: follow the steps click on register now.

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 5: But you know, Doug Man, we got we got six hundred,

479
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Speaker 5: probably about six hundred and twenty something kids right now, man,

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Speaker 5: Like I done went over the limit, got lucky, got

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Speaker 5: some more jerseys and got got the trophies, and like

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Speaker 5: they gotta they gotta come quick, Doug, like it's about

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Speaker 5: to be over with.

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Speaker 3: I still you Okay, what about if you're just in

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Speaker 3: the Midwest and you want to come watch the best

486
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Speaker 3: elementary and you and middle school prospects in the some

487
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Speaker 3: high school kids as well. You want to come watch Mason, Ohio?

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Speaker 3: Where's the camp? How'd they get there?

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Speaker 5: Okay? Well, you know Mason Ohio Google course with sports

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Speaker 5: you know facility. It's on Reading Road. You know, it's

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Speaker 5: on the ousekirts of Cincinnati. You can take seventy five,

492
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Speaker 5: or you could take the back rods. You know, I

493
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Speaker 5: really don't know the direction.

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Speaker 3: Are you a back road guy?

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Speaker 4: You're a seventy five guy.

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Speaker 5: Oh man, I'm a seventy five guy. But I'm getting older,

497
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Speaker 5: so I kind of like the back rolls. I'm starting

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Speaker 5: to like new things, man, Like I like cooking for

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Speaker 5: my wife. I like barbecueing and stuff like. I'm getting old, man,

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Speaker 5: and it's feeling good to just chill. So you know,

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Speaker 5: the highway to be too much movement sometimes, man, you

502
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Speaker 5: know I got to hit them backstreets.

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Speaker 1: Lebron and Jordan, oh man, why are you gonna do

504
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Speaker 1: me like that?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: This is what hoopers like. You know where he's froing from, right,

507
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Speaker 3: I know where it's from. I mean, that's what I

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Speaker 3: expect your answer to me. But maybe you'll price man.

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Speaker 1: Let me let me let me say this first, Michael Jordan,

510
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Speaker 1: if you ever hear this.

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Speaker 5: I love you, man, I love you, man, I promise

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Speaker 5: you I love But Lebron.

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Speaker 1: James, it's the king, Lebron James. Man, you know you

514
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Speaker 1: run the show.

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Speaker 4: Who do you think? When's the NBA title?

516
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Speaker 3: The ship?

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Speaker 1: You heard who? I just said? Right? If you ain't

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Speaker 1: got on yellow, you gone?

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Speaker 4: You watch him last night?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 1: We ain't gonna look Lebron. Look this thing I like

523
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Speaker 1: about Lebron.

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Speaker 5: He just be laughing at everybody when everybody try to

525
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Speaker 5: come at you with this and that, and then he

526
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Speaker 5: just swift, he flipped the switch on and then he

527
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Speaker 5: just Lebron does what he wants. Man Like, he's playing

528
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Speaker 5: with the league right now. He's not even playing serious.

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Speaker 5: That's what I just feel like. That's just me. I

530
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Speaker 5: don't feel like he's playing for real. I feel like

531
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Speaker 5: he's just we were chilling.

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Speaker 1: Man.

533
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Speaker 3: Anthony Davis had zero points in the second half, Like,

534
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Speaker 3: what is going on?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 5: I ain't gonna really speak on eighty right now, but

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Speaker 5: I do believe in him, and I believe he gonna

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Speaker 5: turn it around.

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Speaker 3: In Ohio, I mentioned Cleveland, Columbus, Uh, Cincinnati, Dayton.

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Speaker 4: What's the best group city?

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Speaker 1: Dayton got some we got some pros. Man. I gotta

542
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Speaker 1: I gotta say Dayton on top.

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Speaker 4: That Dayton's I'd say Dayton's underrated, right.

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Speaker 5: That's why I mean, it's kind of it's small, but

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Speaker 5: I gotta say Dayton on top because of like we

546
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Speaker 5: saw were small, but we always seem to make some noise,

547
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Speaker 5: man Like, we always seem to climb out the dust

548
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Speaker 5: like the dirt.

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Speaker 3: It just who's the who's the best player out of Dayton?

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Speaker 4: Ever, who's the who's the who's the best player of.

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Speaker 5: Day did were we talking on? Are we talking on

552
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Speaker 5: a profile or what I haven't seen? If we talking

553
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Speaker 5: on a profile or what I have seen?

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Speaker 3: Probably on the profile because like, okay, so I grew

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Speaker 3: up in Orange County. Orange County is south of Watana,

556
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Speaker 3: and probably the best brow we have is play Thomson

557
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Speaker 3: plays the best.

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Speaker 5: Amount of I would say from their profile, from winning

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Speaker 5: CHAMPI shifts and just being around you know, certain caliber players.

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Speaker 5: I would say Norris Cole. Then I would say, uh,

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Speaker 5: I gotta go with day Kwon Cook.

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Speaker 1: I mean some we got.

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Speaker 5: We got some people that didn't touch the floor, but

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Speaker 5: them two the actual like day Kwon Cook actually won

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Speaker 5: the three point contest. Norrise Cole actually won multiple multiple,

566
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Speaker 5: multiple NBA championships playing with d Wade and Lebron You

567
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Speaker 5: get what I'm saying. So from you, you being from Dayton,

568
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Speaker 5: you done made it to beat next to Dwayne Wade

569
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Speaker 5: and Lebron James. Man, like we got it. We gotta

570
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Speaker 5: tell our hell we got to take our hair off

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Speaker 5: to you.

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Speaker 3: Well, I can't wait to see in person This camp

573
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Speaker 3: is amazing. Everybody's talking about it. I mean, over six

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Speaker 3: hundred kids is ridiculous and uh, and we'll keep it

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Speaker 3: going and we'll look forward to seeing Terry the third place.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for joining it.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you, man, and I see you real soon.

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Speaker 3: Min Thanks to Terry more so than anything.

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Speaker 2: And he does it. Yes, does he make money doing

580
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Speaker 2: this camp? Right? You do the math?

581
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Speaker 3: Find out how much cost six hundred kids. Not sure

582
00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: how much the facility costs and the uniforms cost, but

583
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 3: there's definitely there's some overhead, but not a ton.

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Speaker 2: He's going to make some money. But I can tell

585
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Speaker 2: you from having been a.

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Speaker 3: Parent at the camp and watching and understanding why it's

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Speaker 3: so successful, that it does, in fact celebrate the kids,

588
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:24,320
Speaker 3: celebrate the players, and the kids like it. That's really

589
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Speaker 3: kind of what's about. It's kind of the well spring

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Speaker 3: for this type basketball in the Midwest. And we'll report

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Speaker 3: back on the stars of the future if you will.

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Speaker 3: I don't like the ratings either, Terry doesn't, but it

593
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Speaker 3: is kind of a necessary part of telling kids what

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Speaker 3: to shoot for and what to watch for. It's not

595
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Speaker 3: the finish line, but it is a good kind of

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Speaker 3: way of stacking kids at this point in their lives.

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Speaker 2: My thanks Terry Hope for joining me. I'm Doug Gottlieb.

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Speaker 2: This is all ball

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Speaker 6: Suppo