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Speaker 1: San Antonio District judge resigns after a federal corruption probe.

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Speaker 2: A former San Antonio, Texas judge goes to federal prison

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Speaker 2: cases in his court. Angus McGuinty committed the ultimate judicial sin.

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Speaker 2: Why did you do it? I did it because I

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Speaker 3: Kenny Florian. I fucking love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Let's hear that berfinext.

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Speaker 6: Job there, Coyctufia crackers.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 3: bullshit artists. Here are your hosts, John Nnick and Kenny Floory.

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Speaker 7: On Monday May thirteenth, two thousand nineteen, Episode two oh

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Speaker 7: one of the Anakin Floor In podcasts UFC two thirty

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Speaker 7: seven is in the can Can Flow. You know, I

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Speaker 7: love these Brazilian people so much. I miss having you

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Speaker 7: down there. But fuck if it is not good to

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Speaker 7: be back in the United States of America.

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Speaker 6: I imagine, dude, Listen, it's the flying right, Just being

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Speaker 6: off your routine, missing your family, all that stuff is

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Speaker 6: really tough, man, especially on Mother's Day.

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Speaker 4: But you're a champ and you got through it. You're back.

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Speaker 7: I's gonna say it's it's hard when you're especially when

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Speaker 7: you're not like a tough guy, right. You know, I'm

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Speaker 7: trying to get physically and mentally tough for every every

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Speaker 7: day in my life. But we went straight from the

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Speaker 7: arena to the airport so as to catch a flight

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Speaker 7: to Seal Polo to get to Miami on Sunday nights

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Speaker 7: so I can kiss my wife on Mother's Day. So

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Speaker 7: here we are. It's good to see you. As always

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Speaker 7: a ton of things to get to obviously. UFC two

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Speaker 7: thirty seven was wild. Ken Flow has got five picks

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Speaker 7: for you today on UFC Fight Night, Dosanjos versus Lee,

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Speaker 7: which is coming up in Rochester, New York. You know,

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Speaker 7: I'm glad I don't have to make like five seven

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Speaker 7: MMA pick every week and make it on Monday, no less, right,

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Speaker 7: I mean, it's like Heaven forbid. We give you like

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Speaker 7: a week to marinate on this. You know, you can

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Speaker 7: barely watch the pay per view and we're asking you

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Speaker 7: to break down Rochester at nine o'clock on a on

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Speaker 7: an LA Monday morning.

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Speaker 6: Always barraging me bro it picks and it's it's like

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Speaker 6: the least favorite thing since I started doing it. I

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Speaker 6: hate it, and Anik knows it, and he just does

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Speaker 6: it just to kind of a little knife on my back.

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Speaker 6: No listen, I'll break down fights all day, but predictions

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Speaker 6: it's like a whole different monster.

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Speaker 4: So I hate it for many reasons.

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Speaker 7: All right, well, and one things I want to say

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Speaker 7: off the top, and yeah, if you can figure out

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Speaker 7: I guess a different way to go about the main

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Speaker 7: event challenge flow than by all means, No, I don't

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Speaker 7: our ears are open, but I don't want to jinx

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Speaker 7: anything off the top. But we did have a few

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Speaker 7: audio issues for our two hundredth episode, so of all episodes, right,

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Speaker 7: our audio kind of failed us a little bit. It

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Speaker 7: was a Wi Fi issue. Flow sounds fucking great this morning,

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Speaker 7: so we were holding out hope that this is gonna

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Speaker 7: sustain over the course of the episode. I probably should

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Speaker 7: have just kept my fat mouth shut. But we have

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Speaker 7: a new UFC Strawweight Champion, and for Jessica andraj. I

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Speaker 7: know the Europeans don't like when I use the word winningest, right,

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Speaker 7: but she is the winningest women's fighter in UFC history.

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Speaker 7: No other woman has eleven UFC wins, and she puts

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Speaker 7: a capstone on it and on what has been a

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Speaker 7: great career thus far by winning the Strawway title, and

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Speaker 7: certainly on a Monday Ken Flow, they're talking about the

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Speaker 7: way she did it as she ends Rose nama Unas's

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Speaker 7: reign with a pile drive slam that knocked Rose out cold.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, listen, before we start getting about getting into the

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Speaker 6: actual finish, you know, listen, it wasn't going too well

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Speaker 6: for her, and the fact that she was able to

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Speaker 6: through taking a lot of shots from Rose nam Unis,

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Speaker 6: I thought was very impressive. She is tough, she is powerful,

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Speaker 6: and that ultimately is what got her the win here

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Speaker 6: fantastic fight to start, one of the more excited, one

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Speaker 6: I thought it was very technical from both fighters, excellent

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Speaker 6: Rosema Munis looked like an absolute ninja assassin out there,

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Speaker 6: just looks so sharp doing what a very few fighters

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Speaker 6: This was a sharper Rose Nommunus than we've even seen

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Speaker 6: in the past. And that's as good as she looked

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Speaker 6: against you want a young J check, she was even

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Speaker 6: better here against ANDRAJ.

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Speaker 7: I thought those first five minutes, as I said to

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Speaker 7: her in the post fight interview, that a lot of

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Speaker 7: people are criticizing me for even doing but I said

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Speaker 7: to her, that was the best five minutes that we've

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Speaker 7: ever seen you. And who better to sum it up

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Speaker 7: than you? So yes, I agree. It was rosama Unus's fight,

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Speaker 7: and I think that's why, you know, my appetite is

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Speaker 7: for a rematch. And obviously I don't want to get

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Speaker 7: ahead of myself because there's a lot to dissect before

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Speaker 7: we get there. But it doesn't sound like rosanama Unis

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Speaker 7: is coming back anytime soon, but for Andrage, you know,

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Speaker 7: certainly not a lifetime Achievement Award for her. I think

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Speaker 7: she's the younger fighter in this equation. No, she's not so.

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Speaker 7: Rose is twenty six and will be twenty seven in June.

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Speaker 7: Jesscondras is twenty seven years old. But this was a fighter,

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Speaker 7: obviously Kenny Andrag who had success at Banda Wade. A

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Speaker 7: lot of people expected that once she went down to Straway,

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Speaker 7: she would be a perennial contender type, if not champion.

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Speaker 7: I'm so happy for this individual and this person. She

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Speaker 7: is such a good human being and that she made

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Speaker 7: a lot of money this night, and she's going to

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Speaker 7: make a lot of money in her next title defense,

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Speaker 7: which is just so wonderful. But if our listeners don't

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Speaker 7: know her nickname bata a staka translation pile driver, right,

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Speaker 7: and she got that nickname because she was disqualified for

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Speaker 7: doing that in a jiu jitsu match. What she did

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Speaker 7: on Saturday night in the octagon absolutely was legal, and

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Speaker 7: she deserves credit for it. I certainly have my concerns

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Speaker 7: about this going forward because I've always thought this was

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Speaker 7: But talk us through it. Can flow the Kimora defense,

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Speaker 7: if you will. Everything that sort of encapsulated the slam

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Speaker 4: Sure.

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Speaker 6: Thing you know in regards to the move, why it

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Speaker 6: Androge in that position. She was setting it up, so

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Speaker 6: she had the choice to let go. It wasn't like

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Speaker 6: Androge picked her up on her own doing uh and

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Speaker 6: then spiked her on her head. It was Rose Nomiunis

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Speaker 6: going for submission. She had the ability to let go

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Speaker 6: of it. And that's why it wasn't illegal. It was

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Speaker 6: a legal move by Androge. And you know, for Rose,

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Speaker 6: she has two choices here. She could either let go

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Speaker 6: of the Kimora lock right ends up becoming safe there

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Speaker 6: and can't be spiked on her head, or she should

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Speaker 6: be sitting with her butt down to the floor, either

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Speaker 6: going for asuma gayishi where she's rolling to her back

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Speaker 6: can set up a different kind of of kimora, but

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Speaker 6: getting your body as low to the post, as low

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Speaker 6: I think Rose Namunu is taking that lackadaisical approach in

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Speaker 6: the earlier part of the fight where she did, you know,

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Speaker 6: her that false sense of security, like a you know,

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Speaker 6: this isn't a big deal. I loved her calmness there.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, you need to know your

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Speaker 6: limits as a human and understand that if you're getting

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Speaker 6: picked up over your head, over someone's head, that is

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Speaker 6: not a good thing. It is something you don't want

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Speaker 6: So I hate saying this kind of thing because Andrage

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Speaker 6: obviously did the right thing here as far as the

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Speaker 6: of my respect and admiration for Rose noama Unis. Rose

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Speaker 6: nama Unis lost the fight in that regard. She had

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Speaker 6: nama Unis lost this because Rose was in control, she

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Speaker 6: let go of this Kimora Locke, she already experienced what

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Speaker 7: We give you ten takes. You couldn't summarize your thoughts

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Speaker 7: any better. Nicely done. TJ DeSantis tweeted over the weekend

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Speaker 7: A what is it? A Jeff Kenny? Is that what

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Speaker 7: they call it?

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Speaker 5: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Yiff?

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Speaker 7: Yes, a gift, It's a Jeff Jiff, right, I mean

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Speaker 7: I am every bit forty. I mean imagine fifty. Anyway,

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Speaker 7: TJ tweeted over the weekend, A jiff of a slam

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Speaker 7: and mixed martial arts that was illegal and I mean

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Speaker 7: that's hard to watch, TJ. What fight was that? And uh?

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Speaker 7: And what was it? It was the angle that made

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Speaker 7: it illegal?

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Speaker 9: I assume yeah, it was from a Pride FC match

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Speaker 9: Nogara shoots in on Bob SAP's legs. SAPs sprawls, and

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Speaker 9: Sap was three hundred and fifty pounds of just dominant muscle.

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Speaker 9: Like they called him the Beast. There's no more appropriate

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Speaker 9: nickname for that man. And he picks up no Gira

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Speaker 9: and slams him on his head. Now the funny Yeah,

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Speaker 9: the funny thing is it wasn't called as an illegal slam.

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Speaker 9: Why because Japan for the most part. But if there's

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Speaker 9: any slam that I've ever seen in mixed martial arts

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Speaker 9: I struggle to really remember a time we've ever seen

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Speaker 9: a slam be called, you know, spiking and have a

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Speaker 9: foul or point deducted for it. It just it very

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 6: I kind of consider that a little bit more of

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Speaker 6: the modern mixed martial arts error for me because I've

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Speaker 6: been watching it since day one, But that was the

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Speaker 6: first time I've ever been legitimately scared for a fighter

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Speaker 6: watching a modern mixed martial arts fight. I always use

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Speaker 6: that example of Bob Sap trying to pile drive the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, it was frightening. It Again, I think there's

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Speaker 4: I got to put a hole in this fucking shup.

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Speaker 7: All right, Ken Flow, So I had forgotten who long

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Ray, I couldn't agree with you more. Rose.

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Speaker 5: You know, you just have to go back and reevaluate,

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, because I've seen that a million It just

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, not to mention, you know, all the other media

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Speaker 6: It's the TV shows and the magazines that want to

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Speaker 7: All right, and that that's a big part of it.

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Speaker 7: And my read on it, having sat down with her

436
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Speaker 7: Thursday and called her last few fights, is that it's

437
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Speaker 7: not necessarily the media obligations in the spotlight, because it's

438
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Speaker 7: very easy for her to turn a lot of those

439
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Speaker 7: things down. And I think she does. It's it's what

440
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Speaker 7: you're saying in the fight night itself, right, Like I

441
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:55,919
Speaker 7: said as she was walking when she was in the

442
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Speaker 7: locker room before that you want to rematch. She made

443
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Speaker 7: her own hands bleed with tension. Trevor Whitman thought that

444
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Speaker 7: a commissioner might not let her fight because he was

445
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,399
Speaker 7: going to deem her to be mentally unstable. She is

446
00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,119
Speaker 7: battling demons in the locker room and getting ready for

447
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:14,280
Speaker 7: these fights, and I just don't know if sort of

448
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 7: the end justifies the means. I think for her, she's like, man,

449
00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 7: if I got to deal with all this miserable stuff

450
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Speaker 7: and try to battle all these mental emotions before the fight,

451
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,200
Speaker 7: you know, I just don't want to deal with this stuff.

452
00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,200
Speaker 7: And therefore, you know, maybe my lifetime in this game

453
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Speaker 7: is short.

454
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, I I can't prove it, but I

455
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,600
Speaker 5: mean I know I've seen even some of my guys

456
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Speaker 5: lose fights that I believe was almost like a self

457
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:40,560
Speaker 5: fulfilling prophecy where they just getting tortured on the outside.

458
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Speaker 5: It's just they've just done. They just they don't want

459
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:47,119
Speaker 5: it anymore. And it's it's tricky. That's why I say

460
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Speaker 5: I used the word grounded. You really have to be

461
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 5: really really grounded. This is a real that's a lot

462
00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:58,080
Speaker 5: to handle. And you know, she obviously she's a sweet kid.

463
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Speaker 5: Everybody loves her, everybody likes to watch her fight. But

464
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 5: something's going on somewhere where she can't overcome it, you

465
00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 5: know what I mean, And uh, it's it's it's kind

466
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Speaker 5: of sad. I just hope she's all right. She's look again,

467
00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 5: she she interviews as such a sweet kid, So I

468
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,439
Speaker 5: just hope that that she's all right.

469
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Speaker 7: Well, from a performance standpoint, that's the thing. She can

470
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Speaker 7: overcome it. She fought brilliantly against Yo. Wanna to your point.

471
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Speaker 7: She came out and fought a great first round.

472
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Speaker 5: That was one of the best first rounds I've ever

473
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Speaker 5: seen by anybody.

474
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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what Kenny sat off the top of the show.

475
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 7: I mean next level stuff like high level mixed martial arts.

476
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Speaker 5: But yeah, that was beautiful to watch. Guy. She was

477
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 5: that looked like that looked like a person in the zone.

478
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,439
Speaker 5: If you want to know what the zone looks like.

479
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Speaker 5: That's the work, Like just everything getting the reads on everything,

480
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:52,399
Speaker 5: everything going perfect. Uh man, that Jim was perfect. She

481
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:54,840
Speaker 5: was following with the right hand of foot work, going

482
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Speaker 5: to footwork, to your right footwork, go to your left,

483
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Speaker 5: going in, always punching him downs. I like again, I

484
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 5: didn't even see the whole card. I caught it late.

485
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,520
Speaker 5: But to me, that fight was worth the whole, the

486
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 5: whole uh whatever, sixty dollars whatever it was to purchase it.

487
00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 5: I was really happy. I thought that fight was phenomenal. Yeah.

488
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Speaker 7: No, it was unbelievable. And I think that's why a

489
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 7: lot of people hope that she can get over what

490
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Speaker 7: ails her and fight on, because you know, if she's

491
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Speaker 7: not the best strawweight in the world, still she's right

492
00:23:26,800 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 7: there with jesscondraj And you want to you know, j

493
00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,120
Speaker 7: Chuck and Tatiana Swarz need to answer off anyone else

494
00:23:31,160 --> 00:23:32,560
Speaker 7: you want to throw in that mix. All right, well,

495
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,480
Speaker 7: we'll get more on Kenthl on the other side of that,

496
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Speaker 7: but a couple of things before we let you go.

497
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Speaker 7: I'm throwing heaters today, you know, no our curve balls,

498
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Speaker 7: I guess is the expression I got. I got questions

499
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 7: that you're not expecting today, Al Jamaine Sterling adro Munos,

500
00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 7: there's bad blood now.

501
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Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, I think I heard some well, what was

502
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 5: the bad blow? You see?

503
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Speaker 7: Well, I just you know, Al Joe is sort of resurfacing,

504
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,320
Speaker 7: you know, the ped stuff with Pedro. I think Pedro

505
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 7: had a USADA issue back in the day. I don't

506
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,400
Speaker 7: know if he was suspended, but I think the general

507
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,400
Speaker 7: consensus was that he was cleared of any real wrongdoing.

508
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 7: And he obviously did a lot of media as a

509
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 7: guest fighter down in Rio, and and he has legitimate

510
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,200
Speaker 7: emotion now and anger towards Al Joe for rehashing this

511
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 7: stuff and bring it back to the surface. Al Joe

512
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 7: has tweeted that he wants USADA to to test him

513
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 7: for EPO and whatever else. And I'm just saying, as

514
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 7: somebody who's calling this fight, I like that there is

515
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,760
Speaker 7: now underlying friction to uh to Sterling v moon Yo's

516
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Speaker 7: June eighth.

517
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Speaker 5: Yeah, want me to comment, I do it.

518
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Speaker 7: I do it. See, I knew I was to ask

519
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:40,600
Speaker 7: you a question.

520
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Speaker 5: I mean, I think Aljiel has legitimate concerns with the

521
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Speaker 5: USADA with that, and I don't know what what's the

522
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 5: other guy complaining about. What's what's his side of it?

523
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,639
Speaker 5: Though I don't get his side.

524
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Speaker 7: Well, I guess I'll do some research to get you

525
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Speaker 7: the the real details.

526
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Speaker 5: Next week one of my I don't even know what

527
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 5: I'm listening to, but talk about like you said, you know,

528
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 5: you were talking about like, uh, you know, steroids and

529
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 5: performance enhancing drugs. And I'm not saying anything, but see

530
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 5: that was a case like even the other night. I'm

531
00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 5: not saying anything, but if that girl was on something

532
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 5: and she musted up that extra strength to get that lift,

533
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:21,720
Speaker 5: see that's where it gets dangerous.

534
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 7: Man's yeah, she's tossing people. I mean, I I understand,

535
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 7: you know, some people, but she's been tossing people on

536
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Speaker 7: her head since she was fifteen years old.

537
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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm just saying but I'm not I'm

538
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 5: not even remotely. I'm saying that that's a situation where

539
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,880
Speaker 5: you get strength and you could lift somebody up. If

540
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 5: if that was the case, that that becomes I just

541
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 5: segued into that ORF for the patro thing. I wasn't

542
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 5: just it made me thinking like PDS and.

543
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Speaker 7: Well no, and I did look it up and I

544
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,560
Speaker 7: do stand corrected a little bit elevated levels of testosterone.

545
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Speaker 5: Uh.

546
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Speaker 7: He admitted to using a couple of supplements that that

547
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,399
Speaker 7: may have elevated it. But outside the women, he was

548
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 7: suspended one year, retroactively had a wind changed to a

549
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 7: no contest. But he screamed innocence from the rooftops almost immediately,

550
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 7: And at least for me, that's what I like to

551
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:16,879
Speaker 7: see when I got a lot of people, the people

552
00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 7: who aren't innocent don't scream from the rooftops right away. Man.

553
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 7: I mean, hey, I'm just saying, like when when all

554
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,120
Speaker 7: of a sudden, pedro pops and he has no idea why, right,

555
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 7: It's not like he's shooting testosterone in his ass. You know,

556
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 7: maybe he's trying to gain an advantage. I'm not sitting

557
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 7: here saying that he wasn't necessarily, but you know, his

558
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 7: reaction made me think he was innocent, you know, John,

559
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 7: And oh yeah, and uh well see that's good. See

560
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 7: now I'm now I'm really playing it even handedly, right,

561
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 7: I'm trying to defend the guy that just no. I

562
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:56,920
Speaker 7: can't wait to see that fight.

563
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 5: And I really's just brush.

564
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 7: That's what we'll do for you on the broadcast. Okay,

565
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 7: I'll do that for you on the broadcast.

566
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 5: Okay, all right, man, I hope I was just some

567
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:10,560
Speaker 5: help today.

568
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,640
Speaker 7: Actually, what I do have written down is that al

569
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 7: Jo there were definitely emotions, for lack of a better

570
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 7: word for for the Jimmy Rivera fight, and he performed brilliantly.

571
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,679
Speaker 7: So I think for al Jamaine Sterling, not only do

572
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 7: I think he's a future world champion, I really do,

573
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 7: but I just love everything about al Jo. I think mentally,

574
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 7: even when there is a little bit of friction, he

575
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 7: rises to the occasion even more so. So you got a.

576
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 5: Special trust me. In his head is not really friction.

577
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,960
Speaker 5: I think he just does he's having a good time.

578
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,240
Speaker 5: He's not He's not a malicious guy, so he's not

579
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 5: carrying that into the ring. He might, you know, be

580
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 5: funny on social media, but he's just not that guy,

581
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. That's why I say, even

582
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 5: with all of these guys, they're you know, Aljo's argument

583
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 5: so funny. I like when he comes back with stuff,

584
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:57,920
Speaker 5: so I'm trying to figure out what the hell he's

585
00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 5: talking about. So, but he's not like malicious where you

586
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 5: see him angry and he he just he's he's he's

587
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 5: more of a thinking he's more cerebral, you know, when

588
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 5: you read what he's writing in his head, means something,

589
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 5: you know, so I don't know.

590
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,159
Speaker 7: It's good right now?

591
00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 5: Good?

592
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 7: That's he's he is. He's the total package, he really is,

593
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 7: and I think that's good. I think if anybody's angry,

594
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 7: obviously he made Pedro angry and maybe that was part

595
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 7: of his mission. So mission accomplished.

596
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, there you go. All right.

597
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 7: Well, I won't get a Halfayel Dosano just Kevin Lee

598
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 7: prediction from you, even though it would make all the

599
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,400
Speaker 7: sense in the world, seeing as you have twice prepared

600
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 7: out for him. But I don't want to, you know,

601
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:38,959
Speaker 7: I don't want to put you on the spot, so

602
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 7: we'll let you go.

603
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 6: Have a great week, all right, guys, take it easy.

604
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 7: I see, I thought he'd give us a prediction. You

605
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 7: have nothing. How do you know who's favored?

606
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 5: Trust me, anybody listening, take exactly the opposite or whatever.

607
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 8: I like that.

608
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 5: We'll see what happens at one seventies should be I'm

609
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 5: looking forward to that by too, though.

610
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 7: Yeah, all right, man, we'll have a great week. Thanks

611
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,960
Speaker 7: for your time. As always, you're the best. We'll talk

612
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 7: to you in less than seven days.

613
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 5: Take it easy, guys, right, all.

614
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,120
Speaker 7: Right, It sounded like Hafayel Dosanjos was the predition there

615
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 7: for Ray Longo. Ken Flow's audio cut out there for

616
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 7: a minute, motherfucker. We're trying to work on it. But EJ,

617
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 7: don't you dare cut that motherfucker out of the show either.

618
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 4: More on UFC two thirty seven.

619
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 7: Here in a moment. First, this though from the National

620
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Speaker 7: Highway Traffic Safety Administration. I'm not going very far. I'm

621
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 7: in a rush. It's too uncomfortable. Sometimes I just forget.

622
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:32,800
Speaker 7: Don't kid yourself. There's no such thing as a good

623
00:29:32,800 --> 00:29:35,120
Speaker 7: excuse for not buckling up. If you've used any of

624
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 7: these excuses or any others, you're putting yourself at risk

625
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 7: of injury or death. In twenty seventeen alone, more than

626
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 7: ten thousand people were unbuckled when they were killed in crashes.

627
00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 7: That's fifty one percent of people killed in motor vehicle

628
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 7: crashes that were not wearing seat belts. No matter what

629
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 7: kind of vehicle you drive, wearing your seatbelt is the

630
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 7: best defense in a crash. Even when you sit in

631
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 7: the back seat, you still need to buckle up. That

632
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 7: goes for when you're riding in taxis and use sharing

633
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 7: services too. Cops are also on the lookout and writing tickets,

634
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 7: So why take the risk. In twenty seventeen alone, seatbelts

635
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 7: save nearly fifteen thousand lives. So do the smart thing

636
00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,080
Speaker 7: and buckle up every trip, day or night, click it

637
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 7: or ticket so ken Flow. We touched on some of

638
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,040
Speaker 7: the mental stuff there with Rose nama Unis, and this

639
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 7: was the first time she had ever been knocked out.

640
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,120
Speaker 7: You know, it'll be interesting to see how she sort

641
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 7: of responds to this, and I do think that this

642
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 7: might light a good type of fire in terms of

643
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 7: her wanting to return to competition. I think for purposes

644
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,200
Speaker 7: of andraj in the division, we're going to proceed as

645
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 7: if they're not going to do an immediate rematch, because

646
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,680
Speaker 7: even though on the strength of what nama Unis did

647
00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 7: in taking out Yon Jycheck the greatest champion this division

648
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 7: has ever seen twice and then that first round against Andraje,

649
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 7: We've seen a lot of fighters get immediate rematches. This

650
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 7: is an era of immediate rematches. I would think nama

651
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,920
Speaker 7: Unis would be as deserving as anyone, but she ain't

652
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 7: fighting in three or four months here, and maybe Andraje

653
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 7: will depending on how the rest of twenty nineteen, shit out,

654
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,600
Speaker 7: Big fight June, Tatiana Suarez, Nina answer Off, Michelle Waterson.

655
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 7: Number seven in the world was brought to Rio de Janeiro,

656
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 7: but that might have just been coincidental rather than strategic.

657
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 7: Your thoughts on title defense number one for the new champion,

658
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 7: Bate Astaka.

659
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 6: Well, I would say this. I think you're right that

660
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 6: a rematch is warranted. You know, andraj had her moments,

661
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 6: but really it was a dominant performance from Rose nam Unis.

662
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 6: But if I'm Rose nama Unis, I wait for maybe

663
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 6: things to play out for a couple reasons. First, you

664
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 6: gotta let Rose recover and get one hundred percent healthy

665
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 6: coming off of what you know, seems to be some

666
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 6: kind of concussion or some kind of knockout, right, so

667
00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:48,320
Speaker 6: she needs to get healthy. Nina answer Off and Tatiana

668
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 6: Suarez two excellent grapplers. I think you let them fight.

669
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 6: Perhaps you'll let them the winner of that fight fight

670
00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 6: Onraje first, then you fight the winner of those guys.

671
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 6: Let them kind of cancel each other out. Those are

672
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 6: a lot of excellent fighters going at it right there.

673
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 6: Maybe you'll let that play out and then fight for

674
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 6: the belt.

675
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,720
Speaker 4: But you know, interesting situation there.

676
00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 6: Touch on a Suarez by far the best wrestler in

677
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 6: the division. Nina answer Off can wrestle as well, but

678
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 6: she's very dangerous on the ground with her submission game.

679
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 6: Also has improved a tremendous amount with her striking, So

680
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 6: that's another fantastic fight.

681
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: In that division.

682
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 7: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see how answer Off has

683
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 7: prepared for this fight, right, because to me, it's almost

684
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 7: like you got to just do all wrestling and all cardio, right.

685
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 7: I mean I would think it's just got to be

686
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 7: all wrestling and all cardio for twelve weeks. Try to

687
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,400
Speaker 7: be in the absolute best shape of your life. Knowing

688
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 7: that you have the advantage on the feet, try to

689
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 7: keep it there in some capacity. But yeah, I mean

690
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 7: for Suarez, right, it's like she has a lot of

691
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 7: Kabib qualities and a lot of people envision her at

692
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 7: some point fighting for that title, and if she gets

693
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,800
Speaker 7: by answer Off, I think she will probably be the

694
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 7: title challenger. The other name in this is the fighter

695
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 7: who I think was one of the biggest winners who

696
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 7: didn't compete on Saturday Night. Yo wanna Young j Check right,

697
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 7: I mean she needed this. Noma yunis reign to end.

698
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 7: She's got a five round title defense win O for

699
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 7: Jessica Onraj Her flyweight title fight against Valentina Chevchenko wasn't

700
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 7: terrible but didn't go all that well. Any appetite for

701
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,320
Speaker 7: Young Jcheck andraje too, despite the fact that Yo Wanna

702
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 7: is without a win at one fifteen A little bit here.

703
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 6: Listen, I think you know, for you wanna Young j Check,

704
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,880
Speaker 6: that was the first person that I thought of after

705
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 6: that fight, because she wasn't going to get a rematch

706
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 6: against Rose Nominos after losing twice. She was in a

707
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 6: very similar position to Josealda, who I'm sure we're going

708
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 6: to talk about later, who lost to Holloway two times

709
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 6: in a row.

710
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 4: There.

711
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 6: So yeah, I think that for you wanna Young j Check,

712
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 6: she came out here maybe the biggest victor because she

713
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,479
Speaker 6: does have a win over Onrage and there's a new

714
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 6: champion in that division, and you know she has a

715
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 6: shot and maybe getting that fight as well.

716
00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 4: I think you'd either have.

717
00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 6: To do the remat with Rose or get the winner

718
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 6: of answer Off and Suarez first. I don't know if

719
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 6: you can just throw you on a Young j Check

720
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 6: in there yet. I think she needs to fight one

721
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,520
Speaker 6: and then maybe get back into the title picture.

722
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing Waterson and young j Check,

723
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,839
Speaker 7: so maybe they put the two of them together, and

724
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 7: I do think answer off Scorz winners getting a title

725
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 7: fight Cole main event. Anderson Silva loses to Jared Cannon

726
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,440
Speaker 7: Ear Cannon ear feeling out process in round one, but

727
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 7: really was getting the better of the exchanges on the

728
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 7: feet and then obviously tkos Anderson Silva the leg kick

729
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 7: injuring the Spider. A lot of different ways we can

730
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 7: go with this, Kenny. I don't know how much you

731
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 7: saw of the post fight interview. I have never heard

732
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 7: booze like that in my entire life. Like it felt

733
00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 7: like they were booing me standing in there with Jared cannoneer,

734
00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 7: and I was just gonna sort of let it go

735
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 7: and it did not die down anytime soon. Your thoughts

736
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 7: on Cannonear Silva and everything thereafter.

737
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 6: Well, it's kind of offensive, right, It's like, as sorry,

738
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 6: sorry for winning.

739
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,799
Speaker 4: Guys, my bat my bad.

740
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: I should should have let him beat the living shit

741
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 6: out before you.

742
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,680
Speaker 4: Sorry Brazil might be you know, So it's like, yeah,

743
00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:09,800
Speaker 4: it was kind of ridiculous.

744
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 6: It was like, come on, guys, I get it, Anderson Silva,

745
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 6: he's a legend, you love him, but it doesn't mean

746
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 6: you have to completely disrespect the guy for going out

747
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 6: there and fighting his heart out. I mean, yeah, you know,

748
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,799
Speaker 6: he showed a lot of respect to Anderson Silva as well.

749
00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 6: It wasn't like, you know, he was mounting, you know,

750
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 6: like trash talking and disrespected him after the fight.

751
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 4: He's trying to do his best as a mixed martial artist.

752
00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:36,120
Speaker 6: And if you know Jared Cannoneer, he seems like, you know,

753
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 6: one of the nicer guys.

754
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 4: But I get it, emotions getting involved.

755
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 6: But for cannon Ear, I mean, what an opportunity for

756
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 6: him there facing Anderson Silva again. This is what every

757
00:35:46,400 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 6: single fighter wants to face, a legend, to make your

758
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 6: name off of beating that person.

759
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:52,720
Speaker 4: Uh.

760
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 6: And you know, I was a little bit worried for

761
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 6: Anderson Silva at this point in his career, forty three

762
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 6: years old, takeing on Jared Cannoneer, a guy who just

763
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,439
Speaker 6: hits so dang hard and has looked very, very tough

764
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 6: and strong at one hundred and eighty five pounds. I

765
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 6: think it was Cannonear's fight to lose and man did

766
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 6: he make a name off of Anderson Silva here?

767
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,399
Speaker 7: And even though Jared Cannonier is thirty five years old,

768
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,479
Speaker 7: there are not a lot of MMA miles on the tank.

769
00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 7: But it's a young man's game, right. I was talking

770
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:22,839
Speaker 7: to Michael Bisping on the postfight set when we were

771
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 7: off the air. It's like, do you think if Vanerson

772
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,319
Speaker 7: Silva gets kicked on the inside of that right leg

773
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,600
Speaker 7: at twenty four years old, that he's buckling over? The

774
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 7: man's going to be fifty and six years you know

775
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,120
Speaker 7: what I mean. It's like there's this expectation that even

776
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 7: though he has some superhuman tendencies, that that somehow he

777
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 7: can overcome that. He's still forty four kid.

778
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that's sorry, I said, I've said forty three,

779
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 6: forty four. You're correct, that's right. So yeah, yeah, forty four.

780
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 6: Not only forty four, but a forty four year old

781
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,839
Speaker 6: who's been doing combat sports his whole life.

782
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,439
Speaker 4: So that's that's a little different. It's not only forty

783
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:53,040
Speaker 4: four years old.

784
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 6: You're not gonna feel great at forty four, but after

785
00:36:55,239 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 6: doing combat sports, major compound fracturing your leg or yeah,

786
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:02,160
Speaker 6: you know, all those things that we've had to deal

787
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 6: with as mixed martial artists.

788
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 4: It takes its toll on your body, believe me.

789
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 7: It's he's been an MMA pro since nineteen ninety seven.

790
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,239
Speaker 7: That's more than half of his life has been as

791
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:15,360
Speaker 7: as a pro MMA fighter. I think for Cannoneer, it

792
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 7: was just like the perfect storm, right. It was the

793
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 7: fifth straight loss by a Brazilian at that point of

794
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 7: the night. So even though they had some success earlier

795
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 7: on Little Nag lost to Ryan Span, then betchkohe A

796
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 7: lost to a reine Al Domiciago Alves, Jose Aldo, and

797
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 7: then Silva, so it was five straight losses. It was

798
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 7: like three o'clock in the fucking board, and they were

799
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 7: just like, you know what, Jared Cannoneir, you can go

800
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 7: fuck yourself. But hey, canonear it's interesting because he's on

801
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 7: a really good trajectory right now and just sort of

802
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 7: enclosing on him. I think Jakade Soza is the fight.

803
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 7: Jacka Day turned down that fight for this card and

804
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 7: ended up circumstantially fighting Jack Ermanson. I think Jackade Sosa

805
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 7: is going to be the fight. Maybe Jacaday's not gonna

806
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 7: be in a position to turn this down because he

807
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 7: is coming off a loss now. And I'm not saying

808
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 7: that Jared Cannoneer is favored to win that fight. He'll

809
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,879
Speaker 7: be the underdog. But Cannoneer is improving exponentially, Kenny. He's

810
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:09,879
Speaker 7: devoted his life to this. He's a student of the game.

811
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 7: John Crouch certainly is a good jiu jitsu guy to

812
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 7: have in your corner, and I think he's just getting

813
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,880
Speaker 7: good direction. He's now training full time and not working,

814
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 7: and I don't know, I'm curious to see. We've seen

815
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,560
Speaker 7: Hermanson and other guys really take a quantum leap at

816
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 7: eighty five. I'm kind of curious to see how far

817
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 7: Cannoneer can take it. Potentially.

818
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, absolutely, I think what he was training in Alaska

819
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 6: before not exactly your mixed martial arts hotbed. No disrespect

820
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,399
Speaker 6: to Alaska, but they just don't have a whole lot

821
00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,440
Speaker 6: of gym's over there and a whole lot of experience.

822
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 6: I think him making the move to MMA Lab to

823
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 6: the MMA Lab in Arizona has been great for him.

824
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 6: Getting the exposure to all those other fighters that are

825
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,799
Speaker 6: training getting ready for fights, and all the knowledge over

826
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 6: there has really helped him, and I agree he is

827
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,200
Speaker 6: getting better. He's only going to get better, and he's

828
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 6: picked the right way class as well.

829
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 4: Man just so powerful wrong there.

830
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 7: Speaking of only getting better, how about Alexander Volkanovsky unanimous

831
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 7: decision winner over Joseie Aldo thirty to twenty seven times three.

832
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 7: And you know, my colleagues, our friends Daniel Cormier and

833
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 7: Domina Cruz, kind of feel like Volkanovsky fought the perfect fight.

834
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 7: And I would agree not much in terms of offense

835
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 7: from Josey Aaldo, And I don't know if he was

836
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 7: one hundred percent. He certainly seemed to be when we

837
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 7: sat down with him on Thursday. Kenny, how much credit

838
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 7: does Volkanovsky deserve for the way he thought he fought

839
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 7: the fight and your thoughts on Josey Aldo obviously not

840
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 7: keeping what was some pretty significant momentum going.

841
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 4: You want to learn how to beat Josey Aldo.

842
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 6: Volkanovsky really just fought the perfect game plan, executed it perfectly.

843
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 6: You know, I do feel though, you know, and this

844
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 6: was a big problem for Aldo heading into this. Volkanovsky,

845
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 6: you knew he was not going to quit, He was

846
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 6: not going to slow down, he was not going to

847
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 6: stop moving forward and for Jose Aldo, you know, after that,

848
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 6: you know, I poke that happened that I didn't think

849
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 6: was so bad. I immediately I went back and wanted

850
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 6: to see the replay. I was waiting for the replay.

851
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 6: We saw it. It wasn't really that bad of an

852
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 6: eye poke. That concerned me when Jose Aldo asked for

853
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 6: that time off because mentally he lost the fight. At

854
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,759
Speaker 6: that point, he questioned himself with Volkanovsky and said, you know,

855
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 6: I'm gonna need a little bit of time here and

856
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,239
Speaker 6: try to figure out what I'm gonna do here against Volkanovski.

857
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 6: Volkanovski was ready to go. That's why, you know, sometimes

858
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 6: when you get the ipokes and it's not that big

859
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 6: of a deal, you see certain fighters they'll be screw it,

860
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 6: let's go, Let's go right back into this. I'm ready

861
00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 6: to fight other guys when they're stopping sometimes obviously, and

862
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 6: a lot of times it's because they're genuinely hurt.

863
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Speaker 4: They cannot see. I didn't see that body.

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Speaker 6: Language from Jose Aldo like like he really couldn't see

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Speaker 6: out there. For me, it was I'm gonna take a

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Speaker 6: little break because I can. I need a little break

867
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Speaker 6: either I need to stop the momentum here from this jugger,

868
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Speaker 6: not from Australia Volkanovski and he lost the fight. Mentally,

869
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Speaker 6: he did not want to be out there against Volkanovsky.

870
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Speaker 6: His volume slowed down. Mentally, he seemed like he checked out.

871
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Speaker 6: It was Volkanovski with that gameness, with that high pressure

872
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 6: style that just was taken at Josette to Jose Aldoin again.

873
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Speaker 6: All those takedown defense was superb, but striking wise, he

874
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Speaker 6: just didn't know what to do against Volkanovsky and and

875
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Speaker 6: that was the big issue.

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Speaker 7: Volkanovsky has said that he knew from the first day

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Speaker 7: he stepped in an MMA gym that he could be special, right,

878
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Speaker 7: and he says that humbly, and he was absolutely right.

879
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Speaker 7: Everybody he spars is essentially twice his size, legendary gas

880
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Speaker 7: tank that probably only Max Holloway in this division can

881
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Speaker 7: compete against. Will it be Max Holloway next? As the

882
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,759
Speaker 7: question right, seventeen consecutive wins for Volkanovsky, seven to zero

883
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Speaker 7: in the UFC. He just beat the number one contender.

884
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Speaker 7: I know Frankie Edgar is campaigning for the title fight.

885
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 7: He is coming off a win. I believe cup Swanson

886
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Speaker 7: was his last win. But for Alexander Volkonowsky Kenny, I

887
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Speaker 7: would think Chad Mendez Jose Aldo back to back, seven

888
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Speaker 7: to zero in the UFC. For me, the Ozzie Volkanovsky

889
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Speaker 7: is really hard to deny. I believe his next fight

890
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Speaker 7: will be for the featherweight title.

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Speaker 6: You know, listen, I think those are the only two

892
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Speaker 6: candidates to fight Max Holloway at this point, those are

893
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Speaker 6: the only two guys you can consider. Whatever whatever the

894
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Speaker 6: history is with Frankie Edgar. You know, I think for

895
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Speaker 6: Volkanovski though, he has to be the leading candidate for me,

896
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Speaker 6: you look at his consistency, the level of competition, the

897
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Speaker 6: way that he's going out there in doing it, the

898
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Speaker 6: fact that he's a unique challenge stylistically to someone like

899
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Speaker 6: Max Holloway, I think makes him the candidate.

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Speaker 4: Now. I picked al though to win that fight.

901
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 6: I thought all those experience was going to be the difference,

902
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 6: his ability stuff the takedowns.

903
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,959
Speaker 4: I thought his volume was going to be on point.

904
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Speaker 4: That was not the case.

905
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Speaker 6: Volkanovsky was the guy who kept the pace on him,

906
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Speaker 6: who backed him up in Brazil by the way, uh

907
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Speaker 6: and beat the former champions. So I think Volkonowsky has

908
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Speaker 6: to be the guy that you got to put in there,

909
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Speaker 6: but certainly the legend Frank Edgar deserves a shot as well.

910
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Speaker 6: I just don't think over someone like Volkonowski.

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Speaker 7: I think Volkonovsky, yeah, has just put too good a

912
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Speaker 7: body of work on paper. So Frankie got knocked out

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Speaker 7: by Brian or Taking March third, twenty eighteen, and then

914
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Speaker 7: he turned around quickly if you were calling Fox Cup

915
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Speaker 7: Swans in April twenty four, twenty eighteen, and did beat him.

916
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Speaker 7: So it has been over a year since FRANKI Edgar

917
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Speaker 7: did compete, but the last one was a w all

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Speaker 7: right good stuff on UFC two thirty seven. Hope we

919
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Speaker 7: didn't short change anybody. Congratulations to all the other winners,

920
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Speaker 7: but we got to spend it forward. Let us get

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Speaker 7: to the Main Event Challenge.

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Speaker 3: EA's the main Event Challenge.

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Speaker 7: The time is most definitely.

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Speaker 3: I finished fine. How do you ever think both will

925
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Speaker 3: do win the Main Event Challenge? John Hennick and Kenny

926
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Speaker 3: Florian podcast.

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Speaker 7: All right, so we tea this last week that after

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Speaker 7: two hundred episodes we would be tweaking our Main Event

929
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Speaker 7: Challenge a little bit. We have carved out a more

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Speaker 7: regular role on the show for a guy who I

931
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Speaker 7: think is richly deserving in my mind, Ian Parker, former

932
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Speaker 7: MMA manager, founder of Cage Hero. So he's going to

933
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Speaker 7: be making most of the head to head picks against

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Speaker 7: Ken Flow moving forward. But before we get to Ian,

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Speaker 7: I just want to read a tweet from one of

936
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Speaker 7: our loyal listeners, Marcus mcgahey, who wrote it, and I

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Speaker 7: just want to say the main event challenge is probably

938
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Speaker 7: my favorite segment. I really hope you guys don't change it.

939
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Speaker 7: I think it's a really cool way to get the

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Speaker 7: fans involved and frankly, it's a hallmark of the Anak

941
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Speaker 7: and Floring podcast. So for the last four years, spanning

942
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Speaker 7: two hundred episodes, as many of you know, we've had

943
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Speaker 7: a different listener or MMA handicapper come on the show

944
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Speaker 7: to make picks for my team against the Flow, and

945
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Speaker 7: that's of course how Ian came on our radar as well.

946
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Speaker 7: But that sort of methodology and doing it that way,

947
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Speaker 7: there have been some challenges, right, sometimes listeners haven't been

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Speaker 7: reliable or flake in last minute on show day. Now,

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Speaker 7: eighty percent of you who have done this for four

950
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Speaker 7: years have been amazing respond and did a hell of

951
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Speaker 7: a job making the picks, But I also feel like

952
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Speaker 7: this segment is a big part of the meat of

953
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Speaker 7: this show, and I felt like there was a way

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Speaker 7: to make it better, more efficient in terms of time,

955
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Speaker 7: more consistent when it comes to the MMA handicapping that

956
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Speaker 7: is going on. I know Ian wanted this role, and

957
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Speaker 7: eventually I think there are ways that we can certainly

958
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Speaker 7: work the listeners back into the show, doing a monthly

959
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 7: live caller show, maybe even just having a voicemail line

960
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 7: so you guys can leave voicemails that are going to

961
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Speaker 7: come on the air. But we're trying to make the

962
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Speaker 7: show better and that is certainly why we are doing this.

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Speaker 7: So if you have thoughts on this news or you

964
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Speaker 7: want to tweet on the air, I mean fire away

965
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Speaker 7: at Anti Florine, podat Kenny Florian, John Underscore Annak. But

966
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Speaker 7: with us to make picks today. Former MMA manager, he

967
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Speaker 7: had one pro fight himself. He can look it up,

968
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Speaker 7: by the way, the founder of Cage Hero also the

969
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Speaker 7: former director of ticket sales for the NHL's Florida Panthers.

970
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Speaker 7: But more importantly for our purposes, folks, this is a

971
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Speaker 7: very very sharp mixed martial arts mind a good friend

972
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Speaker 7: of the show. Ian Parker now joins us live from

973
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Speaker 7: the great state of Florida. Thrilled to have you, buddy.

974
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Speaker 7: Sorry about the long intro, but I wanted to get

975
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Speaker 7: through some of that. How are you?

976
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Speaker 8: Oh, I'm great, man, I'm excited. I appreciate the opportunity

977
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Speaker 8: and uh I will not let anyone down. We're gonna

978
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Speaker 8: make this show better. The first two hundred episodes were amazing.

979
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Speaker 8: I can't wait again it. Thank you guys for putting

980
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Speaker 8: your faith in me.

981
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Speaker 7: Let's go now. We're excited to have you, for sure.

982
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Speaker 7: I'm glad somebody didn't scoop you up before we did.

983
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Speaker 7: Although I Kenny know I don't like New York at all.

984
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Speaker 7: We got long gooing Ian Parker a little too much

985
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 7: or for me? Quick update on the standings. You know,

986
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Speaker 7: we thought about Flow resetting the standings because Ian's coming

987
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Speaker 7: on board, but we're not gonna do That's it was.

988
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Speaker 7: It was fifty eight to forty four. Good news for

989
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Speaker 7: the Flow, though. You just continue to chip away man.

990
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Speaker 7: Three straight weeks you have won you edge Gabe Hernandez

991
00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 7: four to three. So the lead continues to get shaved

992
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 7: down sixty one forty eight UFC fight Night dos Anjos

993
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Speaker 7: Versus Lee, Rochester, New York. It is Wall to Wall

994
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Speaker 7: on ESPN Plus. First fight for US Today Boys featured

995
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Speaker 7: prelim Women's bandam weight division where sijar U Banks now reside.

996
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,520
Speaker 7: She moves up from Flywaight, missed weight for her last

997
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Speaker 7: fight last year against Roxanne Mota Feri. She is two

998
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Speaker 7: and zero in the UFC, but ian a plus two

999
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Speaker 7: thirty five underdog here for her rematch with aspen lad

1000
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Speaker 7: Lad minus two seventy five in Parker. Who do you like.

1001
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 8: So this fight?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

1003
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Speaker 8: Three match when victel or aspen one. You know, cijar

1004
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 8: Ubanks has been, you know, an interesting situation for the UFC.

1005
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 8: Obviously the whole title shot taken away, but then not

1006
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 8: making weight and then Micky Wait and then no one

1007
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 8: knowing what was really gonna happen. I think this is

1008
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Speaker 8: a very interesting challenge for the first fight, going up

1009
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 8: awaight class aspen Lad. They really like her, you know,

1010
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 8: she has shown us that evolution of each fight and

1011
00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 8: how she's getting a little bit better here and there.

1012
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,000
Speaker 8: I think her athleticism is going to be really the

1013
00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 8: edged or I'm sorry, the pack the least resistance of

1014
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 8: the route to victory here. I think her striking is

1015
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 8: better than Sijar new Banks. You know, Sinjar is a

1016
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Speaker 8: very good top jiu jitsu fighter. I don't really know

1017
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 8: if she's gonna be able to get Aston lads to

1018
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,600
Speaker 8: the ground that easy. I do if I had a pick,

1019
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 8: I'm surprised the odds are this far out. You know,

1020
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:11,480
Speaker 8: this is high of a spread. But I would go

1021
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,840
Speaker 8: Aspen Ladd in this situation. I think he's going to

1022
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 8: grind out a decision. I just like I said, her

1023
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,880
Speaker 8: and Kenny and I talked about this a couple of

1024
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Speaker 8: months ago. When it comes to the women's division, at

1025
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 8: that point in the talent pool, it really comes down

1026
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:26,320
Speaker 8: to who is further along in their athleticism and a

1027
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:28,600
Speaker 8: little bit of their technicality, And I think Aspin Ladd

1028
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 8: has the edge here.

1029
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Speaker 7: Who's meaner, Well, they're both really mean ken flow. Aspin

1030
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 7: Lad eight and one as an amateur with six finishes

1031
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 7: seven to zero is a pro. Only time she failed

1032
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 7: to put somebody away was the first meeting with Sajar

1033
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Speaker 7: a U Banks. That was January of twenty seventeen. Lad

1034
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Speaker 7: two and zero in the UFC went over Tanya Avanger

1035
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Speaker 7: at UFC two twenty nine earned her a performance bonus.

1036
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Speaker 7: You like Ladd as the prohibited favorite? Are you going

1037
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Speaker 7: with Sarge?

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Speaker 6: I gotta agree with Ian here based on the odds.

1039
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Speaker 6: You know, I was a little surprised that Sajara was

1040
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 6: such a big underdog here, but I think for a

1041
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Speaker 6: lot of the reasons that Ian already stated, I like

1042
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Speaker 6: Aspin Ladd here. I think she's not only the more

1043
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Speaker 6: athletic fighter, but also further along in her you know,

1044
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,279
Speaker 6: as far as being a technician out there, she's a

1045
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 6: better striker. I think she's gonna be able to stop

1046
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,279
Speaker 6: that takedown. If the fight stays on the feet, it

1047
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:23,200
Speaker 6: should be Aspen Ladd really picking Sijar apart from the outside,

1048
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Speaker 6: So I think aspen Ladd probably takes this all right.

1049
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,600
Speaker 7: Next up, fellas not just a rematch, but a rare

1050
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Speaker 7: trilogy fight, especially when it doesn't involve a championship. Third

1051
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 7: meeting here between Charles Olivera and Nick Lentz. Interesting that

1052
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 7: this actually came together. Duke Bronxs a huge favority in

1053
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Speaker 7: minus three fifty, Lentz coming back in the plus two

1054
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Speaker 7: ninety range. You go on OLIVERA or Nick Lentz.

1055
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Speaker 8: I would actually love the opportunity to ask why they're

1056
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Speaker 8: doing this fight. I feel like OLIVERA needs to be

1057
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Speaker 8: We need to find out if he's ready for that

1058
00:49:55,480 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 8: top seven I mean not top five y because that

1059
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 8: division has got so much depth. But based on his

1060
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Speaker 8: last fight against Tamer, you know, the one thing that

1061
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Speaker 8: really impressed me again was his striking. I think his

1062
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 8: striking is really starting to come along. I think he's

1063
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Speaker 8: really starting to understand his range, not rushing in, keeping

1064
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 8: his hands up, being a little bit more defensive. But

1065
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Speaker 8: he's really starting to put it all together. And this

1066
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Speaker 8: was the al of era we've been waiting for for

1067
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Speaker 8: a while. You know, that last fight was really in

1068
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Speaker 8: my opinion, Obviously, we all expect him to tap guys out.

1069
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Speaker 8: His jiu jitsu is phenomenal, probably one of the best

1070
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Speaker 8: overall in the UFC, but his striking really impressed me.

1071
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Speaker 8: He overcame a couple of rows of the ipokes that fight.

1072
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Speaker 8: It's hard to picture Lentz being able A to submit Olivera.

1073
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Speaker 8: I don't see it happening. I don't see him out striking.

1074
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,959
Speaker 8: Although Lentz's striking has definitely gotten a little bit better.

1075
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 8: I think Olivera. You gotta go Olivera in this one.

1076
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 8: I just don't see many past the victory for Lentz

1077
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:50,279
Speaker 8: unless he's able to drag this all three rounds and

1078
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 8: his grind it's too hard. I think Olivera's just better everywhere.

1079
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 8: And I think it's just I think it's time that

1080
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 8: after this fight, if Olivera is victorious, we really push

1081
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,400
Speaker 8: him into a top five fight or top seven fights

1082
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:02,360
Speaker 8: and see what he's made of.

1083
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 7: Well, he's not even getting a top fifteen guy here,

1084
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 7: And I think, with respect to Nick Lentz, on the

1085
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 7: strength of a four fight winning streak for Olivera, with

1086
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,840
Speaker 7: all four wins by submission, all earning performance bonuses, you

1087
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,960
Speaker 7: thought he might get a top ten guy next. He

1088
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 7: likes to stay active. We know that Kenny, at least statistically,

1089
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,800
Speaker 7: Charles Olivera is the most prolific submission artist in UFC history.

1090
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 7: Third meeting with Lentz, who also has some momentum. Big

1091
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 7: win for him last time out against Scott Holtzman. Who

1092
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 7: do you like in the third meeting Charles Olivera?

1093
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,960
Speaker 6: Nicholets, You know, I think Olivera is probably taking the

1094
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 6: fights that it's going to allow him to hold that

1095
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 6: submission record for.

1096
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: A long time.

1097
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 6: I think that's probably the the approach right now, he's

1098
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:43,439
Speaker 6: taken those kind of fights. But listen, no, I think

1099
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:46,359
Speaker 6: he is dangerous with his submission There's no doubt about that.

1100
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 6: He's been proving it time and time again. He is

1101
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,439
Speaker 6: getting better as a striker. I think he's getting more

1102
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 6: confident with his overall game. Like Ian said, I think

1103
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,920
Speaker 6: for him though, I think he is a little bit

1104
00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,400
Speaker 6: fragile though as far as you know his ability to

1105
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 6: take punished. But I just don't see Nick Lentz, though,

1106
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:04,800
Speaker 6: being that guy who is gonna put the herd on

1107
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 6: him on the feet and on the ground to really

1108
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 6: be that kind of a threat where you're gonna be

1109
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 6: able to get Charles Olivera out of there. I think

1110
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,439
Speaker 6: Olivera wins this fight.

1111
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 7: First meeting between the two twenty eleven no contests, then

1112
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 7: twenty fifteen Olivera got the double bonus a hundred K

1113
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 7: for a E eighteen in Goyanya, Brazil. All right, now

1114
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 7: we get to my favorite fight on the car to

1115
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,200
Speaker 7: middleweight Catta disapot. I could have probably pronounced that better.

1116
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,919
Speaker 7: Antonio Carlos Junior minus one eighty five the favorite here,

1117
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 7: the plus one fifty five underdog is the very tough

1118
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 7: Ian Heinisch. You like this fight, Ian Parker, What do

1119
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 7: you think?

1120
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 8: I do like this fight more for carlost here than

1121
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 8: I do Ian Heiisch, even though he got that first

1122
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 8: name that you know, kind of drew me to him

1123
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 8: right away. Oh, Carls Junior is also kind of ready

1124
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 8: for the you know, the pull. It's pretty this way.

1125
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 8: I love Carls Stueters last fight, the last couple of fights.

1126
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:59,359
Speaker 8: I think it's another guy who is starting to put

1127
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 8: it all together. Are you know another jiu jitsu guy

1128
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 8: off fielden fighters show. He you know, he had a

1129
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 8: couple of bumps, but now he's really he's really, I think,

1130
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 8: coming in stride here. And I think it's just interesting

1131
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 8: how his striking is starting to come along. He's fighting

1132
00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,480
Speaker 8: at a higher level IQ, he's not being as predictable,

1133
00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 8: he's not telegraphing his shots, and he's starting to become

1134
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 8: a very intriguing fighter in this division that we'd love

1135
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 8: to see some new blood. I think for Ian Hunch,

1136
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 8: I think he's got time to develop. You know, so

1137
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 8: far he's been he's been solid. I just think this

1138
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,439
Speaker 8: might be a little too much too soon. I'm gonna

1139
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 8: go with Carlos Junior to be the better of the

1140
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 8: two rising prospects. Although listen times just tough he really is.

1141
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 8: I would have liked to see maybe someone else in

1142
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 8: that fight with Carlos Junior. Who exactly the top of

1143
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 8: my head, I don't know, but I think Carlos Junior

1144
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 8: is just too well rounded in this fight. I think

1145
00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,359
Speaker 8: he's gonna get this fight to the ground by using

1146
00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:50,839
Speaker 8: this striking, and I think he's gonna win this one

1147
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 8: by submission.

1148
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 4: All right.

1149
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 7: So remember Carlos Junior did get the fight against Derek Brunson,

1150
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:59,520
Speaker 7: but that went away because Derek Runton got injured, so

1151
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,600
Speaker 7: they did give him a top ten fight. He also

1152
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 7: had a fight with Elis Theodoro. Elios Theiodoro had a

1153
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:08,680
Speaker 7: fight with Shoeface that went away because because shoe Face

1154
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 7: got injured. So now he's been out a year, but

1155
00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 7: he does have five straight wins Kenny, four of them

1156
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:17,280
Speaker 7: by submission. Has had a schedule fight with Tom Breese

1157
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,000
Speaker 7: in March. That one away on fight day. Breeze Withdrew

1158
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,120
Speaker 7: Highness was livid, but I thought he handled it well.

1159
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,080
Speaker 7: Ken Flowien heinies twelve and one beat Mutanci in his

1160
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 7: UFC debut. He gets a step up here against Antonio

1161
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 7: Carlos Junior. Which way you go? Heinis is a tough fighter, Listen.

1162
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,160
Speaker 7: I don't think it's out of the question that he

1163
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:35,040
Speaker 7: wins this fight.

1164
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:38,959
Speaker 6: I do think, though, that Shoeface is getting much much better,

1165
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 6: and I think this time off is going to allow

1166
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,760
Speaker 6: him to really shore up his skills and get even

1167
00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 6: more well rounded, even more comfortable for this fight. And

1168
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 6: I think ultimately he's going to utilize his striking and

1169
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 6: try to get this fight to the ground where he

1170
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,480
Speaker 6: will have the advantage. I agree with Ian here, no controversy.

1171
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 6: I'm going with shoe Face for the win.

1172
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 7: I've always felt that Shoeface was going to be something special,

1173
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 7: if not an MMA world champion. I guess we'll see.

1174
00:55:03,760 --> 00:55:06,200
Speaker 7: But I was with him Ken Flow, traveling back from

1175
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 7: Australia when he lost to Dan Kelly in twenty sixteen.

1176
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,239
Speaker 7: I was there, so yes, right, I thought, so, That's

1177
00:55:12,239 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 7: why I sort of brought it up. So you remember

1178
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 7: he was he was dejected and but yet positive, and

1179
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 7: he just totally gassed and didn't handle the travel and

1180
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 7: some of the preparation as optimally as he would have liked.

1181
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 7: But now we fast forward three and a half years.

1182
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 7: I know he's been out a year, but guys won

1183
00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 7: five fights in a row. So big opportunity for Shoeface

1184
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 7: this weekend against Ian Heinish. All right, co main event,

1185
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,160
Speaker 7: So one of the other changes now moving forward, we're

1186
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 7: going to need the round and the method of victory

1187
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 7: on the comane event, So a more opportunity here for

1188
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 7: some points the scent Luke the prohibited favorite minus four

1189
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,680
Speaker 7: ninety against Neil Magne, who is plus three to ninety

1190
00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:49,760
Speaker 7: Ian Parker, how about a cent a Luke four straight wins,

1191
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 7: eight of nine overall, last seven wins by stoppage. What

1192
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 7: do you think about Luke here against the seasoned Neil Magni.

1193
00:55:57,600 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 8: So this fight, and I'm sure Kenny's gonna probably agree

1194
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,440
Speaker 8: with some of the points I have here, is that

1195
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 8: with someone like Luke, this is somebody that again you

1196
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 8: know he's starting to his last fight, kind of showed

1197
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,840
Speaker 8: us some stuff. One either he was way too confident

1198
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 8: and didn't respect Barberina in itself, or he just had

1199
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 8: had a moment, had an adrenaline dump and it just

1200
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,359
Speaker 8: took over and was able to come through at the end.

1201
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:23,680
Speaker 8: He should have ran through a guy like Barberina. And

1202
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:25,880
Speaker 8: it has nothing to do with Barberina's lack of toughness

1203
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 8: or lack of skill. It's just Luk was just way

1204
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:28,760
Speaker 8: more technical.

1205
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 5: His jiu jitsu is.

1206
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 8: Better, you know. It just Barberina is just that type

1207
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 8: of pressure fighter that just doesn't go away. And Kenny,

1208
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 8: I'm sure could attest this. When you punched them one

1209
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,960
Speaker 8: with everything you got one hundred thousand times and they're

1210
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,839
Speaker 8: just smiling at you, sometimes your confidence and your whole

1211
00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:46,200
Speaker 8: demeter kind of drops. And with someone like Neil Magni

1212
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 8: who's taken a ton of punishment and has come back,

1213
00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 8: especially a gets a felt like Hector Lombardo, though that

1214
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 8: feels like it was twenty years ago. Look at this

1215
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 8: last fight against Palms Video. He took everything Santiago had

1216
00:56:57,200 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 8: and it took what four rounds to finally put him

1217
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:02,280
Speaker 8: to bed. You know, lu K has all the ability

1218
00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 8: to win this fight. He should win this fight. He needs.

1219
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 8: I'm hoping his Cardio's there, and I'm hoping he really

1220
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 8: fights his game because Neil Magni is no slouch. I'm

1221
00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:14,440
Speaker 8: gonna take lu K. I'm gonna say he's gonna finish

1222
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:17,880
Speaker 8: in the second round, but he better not sleep on Magni.

1223
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 8: I really hope he corrects what he did last time

1224
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,439
Speaker 8: and uses that normal high level IQ that he usually has,

1225
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 8: because this is a fight he should win. Neil Magnie

1226
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:27,840
Speaker 8: is a nice name to have on his resume to

1227
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,480
Speaker 8: get him to that next level. Uh and that's where

1228
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 8: I am with this fight, all right?

1229
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 7: Sounds like Vicente Luk. Round two, you go on, t

1230
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 7: k O or submission.

1231
00:57:36,680 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 8: I'm sorry, t k O.

1232
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 7: Sorry, I understand you're getting a drink there after your

1233
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 7: co main event prediction. I did not mean to to

1234
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 7: interrupt there. That's fine, I know what I mean.

1235
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 8: I need a little I'm not like Clay Guid of

1236
00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 8: these days. I got that dad bod thing going on,

1237
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,920
Speaker 8: So I need water, you know, I apologize.

1238
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 7: What are you you're drinking? Just are you just drinking

1239
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 7: water right now?

1240
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:56,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1241
00:57:56,800 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 8: Just a little bit of water. Yeah when when we

1242
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 8: sit next to each other, well we'll pass it around,

1243
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:02,400
Speaker 8: but for now, it's definitely.

1244
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 7: Water and yeah, and that is another part of this.

1245
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 7: By the way, Ian Parker lives five minutes from my

1246
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 7: front door in South Florida. So the hopes is that

1247
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,200
Speaker 7: when we go to video that Ian can actually come

1248
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:13,480
Speaker 7: over to my makeshift studio here and we can actually

1249
00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:17,040
Speaker 7: chop it up in person. Ken Flow, I hate that

1250
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:18,800
Speaker 7: you turned off the video. I can't see you, but

1251
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 7: we're going to need a comin event pick here. Luke

1252
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 7: Barbarina earlier this year still one of the better fights

1253
00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 7: I think in twenty nineteen. Your thoughts on Luke getting

1254
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 7: a lot of respect from Vegas. Here on the Komin event.

1255
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 6: John Annik, Ian Parker has shown his back and I've

1256
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:36,880
Speaker 6: taken it. I'm going for the rear naked choke here.

1257
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 6: I like Neil Magni. I think that he's going to

1258
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:44,280
Speaker 6: utilize his reach to try to keep Luke on the outside.

1259
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 6: While Luke showed a toughness that is rare, even if

1260
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 6: for mixed martial arts fighters in his last fight against Barbarina,

1261
00:58:53,000 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 6: to me, he just took way too much damage in

1262
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 6: that fight. If that was Neil Magni, I think Neil

1263
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,480
Speaker 6: Magni eats him.

1264
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 4: I really do now.

1265
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 6: I don't know if that was him getting too emotional

1266
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:09,240
Speaker 6: or he just has a complete disregard for defense on

1267
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 6: the feet. But you can't you can't fight like that

1268
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 6: an elite level and expect to get wins.

1269
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 4: You know, he took a lot of damage. He was

1270
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 4: lucky to get the win.

1271
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:21,560
Speaker 6: And I think Luke, you know, to Ian's point, is

1272
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 6: a technical fighter.

1273
00:59:22,600 --> 00:59:23,880
Speaker 4: He is a dangerous guy.

1274
00:59:24,120 --> 00:59:26,760
Speaker 6: But you can't fight like that like he did against Barbraina,

1275
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 6: he would not get the win against Neil Magni. I

1276
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,720
Speaker 6: think Magni has an ability to really frustrate guys, especially

1277
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:33,919
Speaker 6: with that very long reach.

1278
00:59:34,440 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 4: I think he.

1279
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 6: Uses his footwork, his ability to stop takedowns to keep

1280
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,000
Speaker 6: this on the feet. He might even hit some takedowns

1281
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 6: to get on top of Luke at the end of

1282
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,520
Speaker 6: some rounds, and I think he wins this by decision.

1283
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 4: I'm going with the underdog here, Magni for some points.

1284
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 7: Give him to him, Neil, How about Ken Flow Neil

1285
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 7: Magni plus three to ninety by decision? All right, Main

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Speaker 7: event Kevin Lee minus won twenty Halfai El dos Anjos

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Speaker 7: minus one ten, which makes him the underdog for our purposes.

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Speaker 7: First UFC appearance at Welterway for the Motown phenom. I

1289
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 7: actually couldn't find Kenny any previous welterweight appearances at all

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01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 7: for Kevin Lee, but maybe there's one in there. Ian's

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01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,080
Speaker 7: slight favorite here for Kevin Lee. We're gonna need the

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Speaker 7: round of the method of victory. Who wins the main

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Speaker 7: event in Rochester, New York.

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Speaker 8: Well, first off, I just want to point out the

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01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 8: last time Kenny got super confident and be showing my back,

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01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 8: that was Anthony Tennis versus Stephen Tom. I am righteously

1297
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 8: giving you my back.

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Speaker 4: Happened. I still.

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Speaker 8: Number two, all right, Neil Magni's last fight. I just

1300
01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,480
Speaker 8: wanted to a little quick rebuttal Neil Maggie last nightgainst

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 8: Tom's bibio. If you're telling me that man has not

1302
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 8: taken a shit toun of damage compared to them out

1303
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 8: Luke has, then I'm I'm concerned because to your point,

1304
01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 8: like I said, and I agree with you that if

1305
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 8: Luka fights the way did against Barbarina, Magne is a

1306
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 8: different fighter. But when it comes to damage, dude, Magnie's

1307
01:00:59,000 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 8: taking it. But anyway, take my back, I'm not getting

1308
01:01:01,880 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 8: choked on that one, all right, So moving on to

1309
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:07,000
Speaker 8: the main event. This is interesting, man, Kevin Lee going

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01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:08,800
Speaker 8: up to one to seventy, and I think this is

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01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,280
Speaker 8: a very uh deep end of the pool for him

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01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 8: to jump into. But I kind of also like it

1313
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 8: because Hafio Dosigos is another guy from fifty five, you know,

1314
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 8: in the seventy range, so it's not like he's fighting

1315
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 8: one of these bigger seventy pounders. And I don't think

1316
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 8: that speed is gonna be an issue, you know, it's

1317
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 8: it's really gonna be with Kevin Lee. We're gonna see

1318
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:28,320
Speaker 8: and this is a really tough fight to pick. This

1319
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 8: is almost a coin flip. What what I'm gonna go

1320
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 8: based on here is I'm gonna go based on Cardio.

1321
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go based on the offensive wrestling of Kevin Lee.

1322
01:01:37,360 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 8: I don't think that Mesos is striking is gonna cause

1323
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 8: Lee as many problems. And I don't think Dosanio is

1324
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,640
Speaker 8: gonna be able to take Kevin Lee down so easily.

1325
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:47,880
Speaker 8: I think Kevin Lee is gonna be hungry since that

1326
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,360
Speaker 8: fight with Ayah Quinta and with Dosos. You know, we

1327
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:55,080
Speaker 8: just we're seeing We're not seeing the same once, uh,

1328
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 8: dominant that Joe Rogan called the best lightweight in the

1329
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 8: world anymore. I think this is gonna be the fight

1330
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:02,040
Speaker 8: we're gonna to see Kevin Lee really succeed or be

1331
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 8: really confused. I have to go back to fifty five.

1332
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,360
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go Kevin Lee by.

1333
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 7: Decision, Kevin Lee by decision? Did you just get out

1334
01:02:09,440 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 7: of your car in the middle of your segment? I

1335
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 7: might have unbelievable I mean, the fucking guy getting out

1336
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:19,040
Speaker 7: of the car here in the beep. Thankfully, your audio

1337
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 7: sounded pretty crisp on that transition, because on these cell phones, man,

1338
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 7: doing radio, you gotta fucking stay stagnant. Man, You know

1339
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 7: how much love I.

1340
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 8: Got for you.

1341
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 7: But this is show.

1342
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:29,240
Speaker 8: Solid air pods.

1343
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 7: I'm ready, kids, fucking getting out of his car? First segment?

1344
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 7: All right, Ken Kevin Lee halfayel Dosnjo's flow I read

1345
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:40,960
Speaker 7: today r DA. He has a titanium in fused jaw

1346
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 7: twenty screws four plates in his jaw, broke it in

1347
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 7: the clay weed to fight way back in the day.

1348
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 7: He claims that this jaw has broken a few hands

1349
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 7: in the UFC, Anthony Angel Kwani among them. Kevin Lee's

1350
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 7: dropped two of three r D eight two in a row.

1351
01:02:58,280 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 7: I kind of like that backdrop Canny Be because I

1352
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:02,840
Speaker 7: think this fight just is huge for both guys. For OURDA,

1353
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,240
Speaker 7: it's three straight losses. For Kevin Lee, it's three in

1354
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 7: his last four if he loses, which way you're going

1355
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,880
Speaker 7: kid in the main event, you.

1356
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 4: Know what, listen.

1357
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 6: I think Kevin Lee is definitely an interesting fight for

1358
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 6: half failed Dosanzos. I do think, though, that Dozanjos has

1359
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 6: faced better wrestlers, better strikers in his career. I think

1360
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 6: that Kevin Lee at one hundred and seventy pounds is

1361
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 6: still an experiment. I don't know how he's going to

1362
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 6: do it against a guy like a half failed Dosanzos,

1363
01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 6: who is going to be the bigger man out there.

1364
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,800
Speaker 6: I do think that Dozanzos is going to be way

1365
01:03:38,840 --> 01:03:41,960
Speaker 6: more dangerous on the feet. Kevin Lee's gonna have to

1366
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,040
Speaker 6: be careful there. I think Kevin Lee really needs to

1367
01:03:44,080 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 6: rely on his wrestling here to get it done against Dosanzos.

1368
01:03:49,040 --> 01:03:50,959
Speaker 6: I don't know, man, I don't know if he's gonna

1369
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 6: be able to get it done here at one seventy

1370
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 6: for five rounds. The fight against Ayaquinta concerned me a

1371
01:03:57,280 --> 01:04:01,440
Speaker 6: little bit, and I think those Andres experience and his

1372
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 6: striking is going to be the difference. I think dose

1373
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:07,720
Speaker 6: adress gets it done. Let's go with RDA.

1374
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 7: Decision, r DA by decision for Ken Flow. I know

1375
01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 7: you hate making picks, but I love listening to him.

1376
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 7: And that's an underdog play. By the way, on Hafel

1377
01:04:18,360 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 7: Dossandres against Kevin Lee, I love that you guys disagreed

1378
01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 7: on the main event. On Twitter, you can find Ian

1379
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 7: Parker at Parker Cage Hero also that same handle on Instagram.

1380
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 7: Ian appreciate the time, buddy. We'll talk to you again

1381
01:04:28,800 --> 01:04:30,600
Speaker 7: next week. And just don't forget in all of this

1382
01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 7: that that it is not Team Parker. You're still representing

1383
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,080
Speaker 7: Team Mannik. Okay, but.

1384
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 8: Listen, for the first few fights, I was concerned that

1385
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 8: Kenny and I were on the same team. I was

1386
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 8: getting really and just for the record, and I'm going

1387
01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:46,680
Speaker 8: to earn this spot. At some point. We are gonna

1388
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:49,080
Speaker 8: make Kenny pick first on one fight. I don't care

1389
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 8: what it is. Yeah, yeah, but I will I will

1390
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 8: earn that. I will earn that opportunity today.

1391
01:04:54,720 --> 01:04:56,640
Speaker 7: All right, that's a good idea maybe for the comin

1392
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,920
Speaker 7: next week. Ian Parker going down, Ian Talk.

1393
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:03,400
Speaker 5: You soon bring it, Kenny. Let's do it all right.

1394
01:05:03,280 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 7: One quick thing on the pronunciation of the week from

1395
01:05:05,720 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 7: last week. So we're gonna give TJ the win. So

1396
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 7: he was one and six, he's now ten, two and five.

1397
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,439
Speaker 7: So Lowriano STARPOLEI is just a weird name to say.

1398
01:05:15,480 --> 01:05:17,560
Speaker 7: And you hear how comfortable I am saying it now

1399
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:22,120
Speaker 7: because I'm paid to say this name correctly on Saturday,

1400
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 7: not on Monday, right like TJ's paid to say this

1401
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 7: name correctly on Monday during the pronunciation of the week.

1402
01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,840
Speaker 7: I get the whole week, but I want to say,

1403
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 7: because a listener pointed out my twin brother agreed, they

1404
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 7: felt like TJ deserved better, we're gonna give you the

1405
01:05:35,680 --> 01:05:38,760
Speaker 7: two and five. The other thing some listeners suggested TJ

1406
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,440
Speaker 7: was that we let you listen to the file just

1407
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:45,280
Speaker 7: once beforehand. And I think there's some fairness in that too, right,

1408
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:49,520
Speaker 7: because to keep your record right and not let you

1409
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 7: have a chance to hear the file. It's like for

1410
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,800
Speaker 7: a guy like Lowriano Starpoley, you're just shooting from the hip,

1411
01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,080
Speaker 7: Like just think that's bullshit.

1412
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 4: I think that's bullshop.

1413
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 9: Kenny, You're the only loser on this. Okay, all right,

1414
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 9: I'm gonna win, and you're gonna Lisa Man event challenge

1415
01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 9: and we're all gonna laugh at you.

1416
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 4: So I strongly disagree.

1417
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:11,880
Speaker 7: So the pronunciation of the week this week, we might

1418
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:15,400
Speaker 7: as well do it. TJ's two and five since if

1419
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 7: you have the file ready, Uh, basically his name is

1420
01:06:18,760 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 7: not Kevin Lee and he's fighting in the main event, TJ.

1421
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 7: Who am I talking about?

1422
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 9: Haf Ael Dosos?

1423
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:28,000
Speaker 7: Correct, you're three and five? Congratulations. Now I don't know

1424
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 7: if you can play the file, but do you have

1425
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 7: the file? Hal okay?

1426
01:06:33,960 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 2: So fil Deutsche.

1427
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 4: That's not what I said.

1428
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,720
Speaker 7: I understand, but I Kenny's here for this reason. So

1429
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 7: that is the Rio de Janeiro accent, halfayel Deutschan, joysch Okay,

1430
01:06:47,240 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 7: So we don't use that particular specific Rio Degenaro accent.

1431
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,600
Speaker 7: Obviously we've talked with Hobby and or Hafy, I should say,

1432
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,960
Speaker 7: and Halfael Dosanos is what he goes by and and

1433
01:06:58,000 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 7: that's sort of the way it is. But Kenny, a

1434
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,480
Speaker 7: lot of the fighters, you know what I show you

1435
01:07:03,360 --> 01:07:06,400
Speaker 7: and Joyce, shit's uh right, it's the Rio regionalism. Is

1436
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 7: that what that is?

1437
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 4: That is absolutely correct.

1438
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 6: It'd be like saying my name is Peta and you're like,

1439
01:07:11,480 --> 01:07:15,040
Speaker 6: his name isn't Peter Peter? Right, and then but at

1440
01:07:15,080 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 6: the Boston accent, I changed it. It's the exact same

1441
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:19,520
Speaker 6: thing with the Rio accent.

1442
01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, right, there you go. My name is fucking Thomas.

1443
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:28,200
Speaker 7: No Thomas. All right, So TJ's three and five. How

1444
01:07:28,240 --> 01:07:30,400
Speaker 7: about that? You lose a loss and pick up two

1445
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 7: wins and you're on that. I know, well, it's ridiculous.

1446
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,480
Speaker 7: I don't get any of these. I don't get any

1447
01:07:35,560 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 7: of those. Give me, come on, I'm calling it today.

1448
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 7: This is a great productive day. I'm going home. And

1449
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 7: you're also you're gonna plug your production company when we

1450
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,760
Speaker 7: get out of here too, which is very exciting. But no,

1451
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 7: my twin brother never listens to the podcast, but he

1452
01:07:48,360 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 7: went and ran five miles today and he called and said, hey, man,

1453
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 7: stop giving TJ such a hard time. Well now he's

1454
01:07:53,800 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 7: three and five. There you go.

1455
01:07:55,880 --> 01:07:56,200
Speaker 4: All right.

1456
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,919
Speaker 7: Before we end today, I want to dedicate today's show

1457
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:02,640
Speaker 7: to the International Boxing Hall of Famer the late great

1458
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 7: Harold Letterman. HBO's on official ringside score. Kenny. Obviously you

1459
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 7: know this man and his tones well passed away over

1460
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 7: the weekend, seventy nine years old. Just a really special

1461
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 7: guy who had a special role in boxing, and rightfully so.

1462
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 7: He used to come on my old boxing show, The

1463
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 7: Mouthpiece Boxing Show, countless times, always willing to sit down

1464
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,200
Speaker 7: with a couple of nobody's, always engaged with us, always

1465
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:30,960
Speaker 7: genuine asking about us, unmistakable sound to his voice. Just

1466
01:08:31,280 --> 01:08:35,160
Speaker 7: a really unique great man. And I was really sorry

1467
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:36,720
Speaker 7: to get off the air Saturday, and I didn't hear

1468
01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 7: the news can flow that Harold Letterman has gone. Okay, Jim,

1469
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:43,120
Speaker 7: I got it five route right now.

1470
01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:47,479
Speaker 4: But backyw just an absolute legend. He will be missed.

1471
01:08:47,479 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 6: And how about that for an impact that you hear

1472
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:52,920
Speaker 6: the guy maybe just a few times throughout a fight,

1473
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:57,160
Speaker 6: but he was one of the more memorable voices and

1474
01:08:57,280 --> 01:09:00,559
Speaker 6: personalities during a boxing fight and you only heard him

1475
01:09:00,760 --> 01:09:04,920
Speaker 6: for a few seconds. Just an amazing guy, a true

1476
01:09:05,000 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 6: legend of the boxing game. And absolutely just listen to

1477
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:13,439
Speaker 6: a boxing fight without him saying okay, Jim, it doesn't

1478
01:09:13,479 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 6: have the same kind of energy and same kind of pop.

1479
01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 4: I was very sad to see that news.

1480
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 7: Yeah, for all of us boxing fans, it's unmistakable. Okay, Jim,

1481
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,760
Speaker 7: you know, three rounds to two? Pause Mayweather, you know,

1482
01:09:26,960 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 7: And it's interesting because and who better to imitate him

1483
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,160
Speaker 7: than you. But a lot of people like when there

1484
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:37,600
Speaker 7: are MMA scorecards on a broadcast, right, we do not

1485
01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:40,280
Speaker 7: require our analysts to give scores after rounds. And I

1486
01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:42,760
Speaker 7: think HBO sort of had the right answer. You don't

1487
01:09:42,760 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 7: want someone who's calling the fight to give that score.

1488
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,120
Speaker 7: And some people have recently suggested, oh, you gave Trevor

1489
01:09:48,120 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 7: Whitman a role on the broadcast, why not have Whitman

1490
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,320
Speaker 7: give a score? And I think there's actually some merit

1491
01:09:53,320 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 7: to it. Obviously in boxing, I think it has more

1492
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,559
Speaker 7: teeth and more meat because you're talking about twelve rounds

1493
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 7: and a sport that seemingly has a lot more controversy

1494
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 7: and wayward judges decisions than MMA does, if you can

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