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Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft with David Hellman, Dane Brugler, Cowboys coaches,
Speaker 1: draft picks, and special guests. Now your host, Brian Brian Bruns. Well,
Speaker 1: it's fitting with the eighty second NFL Draft taking place
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Speaker 1: These are the times that tribe men's souls with that.
Speaker 1: We welcome you to our Day one coverage of the
Speaker 1: two seventeen NFL Draft. Yes, sir, you have ever contributed
Speaker 1: like I didn't know you were capable of something that's smart? Brian,
Speaker 1: way to go. You didn't feel like I could quote
Speaker 1: a little Thomas Paine. I would have never guessed you
Speaker 1: knew who Thomas Paine was. Well, yes, Thomas Paine is
Speaker 1: a again, a founding father of this country. And uh
Speaker 1: you like that, elvoy to start it out? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: and and and uh again, these are the times that
Speaker 1: try men souls. And again we welcome you guys to
Speaker 1: the the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. Again. Brian brought us
Speaker 1: Dave Burglar from CBS Sports and Dallas Cowboys dot Com.
Speaker 1: David Hellman, Dallas Cowboys dot Com. K Garrison Executive producing
Speaker 1: this program. Hey guys, and uh, we're really excited to
Speaker 1: be here. I mean, I it's it's it's been something.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been working on this draft. I know
Speaker 1: the players since December fifth. I know, Dane, you've been
Speaker 1: working on this draft, well, like you maybe took a
Speaker 1: month off and then started on it again after the
Speaker 1: June in June. Yeah, so, uh, it's it's really a
Speaker 1: thrill to be here with you guys. And and once
Speaker 1: again it will be wall to wall coverage here from
Speaker 1: the SWBC Mortgage Studios. We're gonna have three days of
Speaker 1: the NFL Draft, every pick, every bit of analysis that
Speaker 1: we can give you. It's it'll be pretty cowboy heavy.
Speaker 1: But well, you know, if you're falling along and you're
Speaker 1: a fan of another team, we'll sure give your team
Speaker 1: some consideration. You know, if we like the pick, we
Speaker 1: don't like the pick, we'll give you a little background.
Speaker 1: That's our motto has always been to investigate and educate,
Speaker 1: and for three days, we're going to try and educate
Speaker 1: you guys, and I feel like a lot of you
Speaker 1: out there are prepared and ready to go. I feel
Speaker 1: like that, uh that whether it's from watching the draft shows,
Speaker 1: following us at the Senior Bowl, the combine, whether it's tweets,
Speaker 1: any one of these different avenues that we've been able
Speaker 1: to reach you, you have an idea of these players.
Speaker 1: And I think that's good. I really do think that's good.
Speaker 1: So I think to start this off tonight, this first round,
Speaker 1: and I'm you know, I mean, I'm the old school guy.
Speaker 1: I actually was part of a twelve round draft, which
Speaker 1: was crazy, but god it was fun. I mean it
Speaker 1: was crazy but fun. But you know, it's a little
Speaker 1: bit different now with the first night being in primetime.
Speaker 1: Round one, it's so different. It is differently. Have you
Speaker 1: been watching this over the last hour and half? It is,
Speaker 1: But it's a red carpet Awards, and I mean that
Speaker 1: it's not new. They did this last year and this
Speaker 1: is that's what. It's fine. That's fine with that. I'm okay,
Speaker 1: it's that's spectacle. It is a spectacle. But I think
Speaker 1: this first round is gonna be crazy tonight. I think
Speaker 1: when we when we start, when the when the commissioner
Speaker 1: goes to open this draft, I think it's gonna be there.
Speaker 1: There's some there's some twist and turns tonight in this
Speaker 1: first round. And again your Dallas Cowboys picking at twenty eight.
Speaker 1: So yeah, lock in and be ready to go. And uh,
Speaker 1: don't feel like the Cowboys are gonna move up anytime.
Speaker 1: You know, there's been a lot of speculation about different
Speaker 1: different teams potentially trying to trade back, maybe some teams
Speaker 1: trying to trade up, but the Cowboys are in locked
Speaker 1: in there at twenty eight. I actually just bumped into
Speaker 1: Scott Linehan while I was making myself a cup of coffee,
Speaker 1: and he's like, you're getting getting coffee. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting coffee. We're gonna be here until like eleven thirty,
Speaker 1: twelve o'clock at night. He's like, that's it's a pretty
Speaker 1: good point. That's a good point right there. If the
Speaker 1: Cowboys picked tonight. Yeah, Cowboys picked tonight. And you know,
Speaker 1: let's let's let's talk about again, maybe what's going on
Speaker 1: with Cleveland. At one Broun Slim ask real quick from
Speaker 1: our perspective, we love this because it's so predictable. I
Speaker 1: have no problem going, oh for thirty two in my
Speaker 1: mom draft. Oh, I don't care, because that it was
Speaker 1: a fun I would prefer that honestly, right, I mean
Speaker 1: we had a great time. But from a scouts perspective,
Speaker 1: when you're in the war room, you don't want to go,
Speaker 1: oh no, you know, oh right now, if you say
Speaker 1: you're picking eighth in this draft, you know you're looking
Speaker 1: at those top seven picks. Yeah, what the heck is
Speaker 1: going to happen? Yeah, I always you guys always laugh
Speaker 1: at me about those tags glowing, you know, and I do.
Speaker 1: I want them to glow, but they don't. They don't glow.
Speaker 1: And yeah, if you're sitting there at here in Carolina
Speaker 1: right now and you're you're you're thinking, Okay, we're at
Speaker 1: a spot where we're gonna get a damn good football player,
Speaker 1: but we've got to I mean, we're gonna have to
Speaker 1: maybe sweat a sweat a few picks. And that's really
Speaker 1: what the whole You've done, all the preparation, you've done
Speaker 1: everything to get ready for the draft, and you've put
Speaker 1: your board, you're stacked, you fought. You've got your feelings hurt.
Speaker 1: You know, you feel good that you won one. You
Speaker 1: didn't win them all, trust me, you didn't win them all.
Speaker 1: But when you look at that wall, and we'll get
Speaker 1: when the Cowboys go to the when we go to
Speaker 1: the Ford Center war room cam, you'll see a different
Speaker 1: look than what we used to see, what we saw
Speaker 1: at Valley Ranch, a little bit nicer, a little bit
Speaker 1: a little bit different look at that in that Ford
Speaker 1: Center war room. And but that's where that the scouts,
Speaker 1: that's where the board, that's where everything is. And you'll
Speaker 1: see a group of guys and ladies around that table
Speaker 1: that fought for players and fought for the you know,
Speaker 1: to get the board is the best that they can
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what, guys, that thing has been
Speaker 1: there's been some shots taking at that thing. I mean,
Speaker 1: you start talking about when we started this and even
Speaker 1: going into the Pro Days. You know, we we got
Speaker 1: done with the combine. Now we're into Pro Days. Boom,
Speaker 1: we're hit with the Sydney Jones injury. Then we're hit
Speaker 1: with you know, with Fabian Moreau. I mean, now it's
Speaker 1: questions like Conley, guys are guys are not working out guys.
Speaker 1: You know I'm standing all my times and all that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, this is this is this is actually the
Speaker 1: fun time because you've done everything to get that board
Speaker 1: in the best shape you can get it in. It's fun.
Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, I mean, you know, we have
Speaker 1: the privilege of working in this building. You get to
Speaker 1: see I mean, you run into the scouts, you see them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see him in the hallway at lunch. I don't
Speaker 1: know how fun this is. I mean, just when you're
Speaker 1: talking about it's fun day. If you're talking about a year,
Speaker 1: I mean, we put in a lot of work, but
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about ten months to a year's
Speaker 1: worth of prep on this guy, on these guys, if
Speaker 1: not more. And now now it's gotta it's gotta work
Speaker 1: out for you. Now. The resources that are put in, yeah,
Speaker 1: for this one, well, these next three days and then
Speaker 1: free agency afterwards, it's amazing the resources, the hours, the
Speaker 1: manpower put into this to come away with the chance
Speaker 1: to improve your football team. And so you just you
Speaker 1: have to hit a home run these next three days
Speaker 1: if you want to be competitive this upcoming season and
Speaker 1: seasons beyond that. And I guess that's My point is
Speaker 1: that you know, obviously we put in a lot of
Speaker 1: work and we want to be right. You guys have
Speaker 1: a lot at stake in terms of your evaluations and stuff.
Speaker 1: But we're not getting fired if the Cowboys first round
Speaker 1: pick is a bust. No, but these guys might. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but that's and that they trust me. Yeah, you don't
Speaker 1: want to get fired. I mean you you you do
Speaker 1: all you can to to maintain the position because you
Speaker 1: do love this. I mean that's that's there's no doubt
Speaker 1: about this. And tonight, just to give you a little
Speaker 1: bit of an idea, uh, Kent has come up with
Speaker 1: some really cool graphics that you will see on Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot com and on our cast. Is you know
Speaker 1: with the pick, who's got the pick, who's got the
Speaker 1: next pick? We'll have all kinds of information for you
Speaker 1: on the screen. Uh. You know, we're excited about how
Speaker 1: we're just trying to upgrade our our overall broadcast just
Speaker 1: to you know, we we we have the knowledge, but
Speaker 1: you know, we know you guys have a choice out there,
Speaker 1: and we want to make sure that that you have
Speaker 1: all the information at your fingertips that you know who
Speaker 1: is on the clock. Who's on deck and all those things.
Speaker 1: So we'll be going throughout the night talking about these
Speaker 1: uh these players. Um. I mentioned the Cowboys thought at
Speaker 1: twenty eight and the weight, and we depending on which
Speaker 1: way this draft falls, it could fall a couple of
Speaker 1: different ways for them. And I wanted to ask this
Speaker 1: question about it. Do you with the quarterbacks the unknown
Speaker 1: with the quarterbacks, Dave, do you want all the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: to go early to drive players to you or do
Speaker 1: you would you rather the quarterbacks be at the bottom
Speaker 1: of the board to have options if you want to
Speaker 1: dive out of there. That's a great question, and I
Speaker 1: think I would rather. I want there to be a
Speaker 1: quarterback there in the Cowboy I want I want the
Speaker 1: trade option. I want the quarterback to be there. And again,
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it. Maybe we talked about
Speaker 1: playing hardball. Maybe the Cowboys can't turn it into a
Speaker 1: sixty five overall pick or something like that, but you
Speaker 1: can get yourself a nice little, you know, price, if
Speaker 1: you can do business with somebody that wants a quarterback.
Speaker 1: I actually looked this up because we were talking about
Speaker 1: it earlier today. The very trade last year that the
Speaker 1: Broncos did with the Seahawks to get packs, and Lynch
Speaker 1: netted them, netted them an extra the Seahawks an extra
Speaker 1: third round pick. Yeah, because they wanted to go do
Speaker 1: the deal or a five spot jump. Yeah. So don't
Speaker 1: tell me it's not possible. You know, if if somebody's
Speaker 1: sitting there at you know, San Francisco thirty four or
Speaker 1: Chicago thirty five, whatever, I don't care. If somebody's sitting
Speaker 1: there that they want to go get, you can get
Speaker 1: a pretty damn good pick out of it. I would
Speaker 1: love for that to happen. Dan. It's hard to disagree
Speaker 1: with that because it's not that you're necessarily going to
Speaker 1: do that, but you want the option. Yeah, you want
Speaker 1: that to be on the table because then you could
Speaker 1: reassess your board, see who's available, and you might say,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're good. We're gonna stay here and
Speaker 1: take the player if Tack McKinley's there, if that's who
Speaker 1: you want, if it's one of these corners. But to
Speaker 1: have the option, that's what you want if you get
Speaker 1: wiped out, if the guy that you want maybe goes
Speaker 1: a few spots ahead. Because when you look at these
Speaker 1: teams all in that into twenties, in the late first round.
Speaker 1: They all have similar needs. You talk about pass rushing corner.
Speaker 1: So we could see some of the Cowboys prime targets
Speaker 1: come off the board right in front of them, kind
Speaker 1: of similar to two years ago when you know they
Speaker 1: like Shack Thompson quite a bit. Yeah, and he went
Speaker 1: right right in front of them, and you know, Cowboys
Speaker 1: end up with Byron Jones. That's worked out, okay, But
Speaker 1: you know, who knows how this year or this this
Speaker 1: draft to play out with those first twenty seven picks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think to me, I'm with you guys on the options.
Speaker 1: I am because I think that when you start talking
Speaker 1: about pushing players, will it be the players that fall
Speaker 1: in your in your need? Yeah? Is it? Is it
Speaker 1: gonna be? Is it gonna be? Is it gonna push
Speaker 1: a defensive end? Is it gonna push a cornerback? Is
Speaker 1: it gonna push a safety? I thought our mock draft
Speaker 1: was really good yesterday, kind of talking about you know,
Speaker 1: the possibility of a decision that you know on the clock.
Speaker 1: You know they've got their stack together and the way
Speaker 1: they want to do it. But the discussion we had
Speaker 1: in our stack was, you know, do you take McKinley,
Speaker 1: or do you take the cornerback Jackson? You know, And
Speaker 1: so I feel like that that they've got that all
Speaker 1: worked out. I really really do believe that they've got
Speaker 1: that all worked out. But I again, I think it's
Speaker 1: about options. And I think and that's a really good
Speaker 1: point in the sense that even let's say the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: go early and push guys now, like, regardless of what happens,
Speaker 1: they're going to have their choice between one, two, three
Speaker 1: guys that they feel pretty good about, Like they're not
Speaker 1: going to get completely wiped out because they've done enough work.
Speaker 1: We've seen the list of guys who've been in here.
Speaker 1: One of those guys will be there. I'm multiple of
Speaker 1: those guys will be there. I'm confident of that. But
Speaker 1: the path that gives you the most options is the
Speaker 1: one where you can, you know, if a quarterback's there
Speaker 1: that you can trade away from. We'll have three quarterbacks
Speaker 1: off the board by the time we get to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys range. It's just does a team like Deshaun Kaiser enough. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Davis Webb has been rumored as a possible
Speaker 1: late first round er. Yeah, I think those two quarterbacks
Speaker 1: the ones to watch and I just have a hard
Speaker 1: time seeing them go in the late first. But you
Speaker 1: never know, yeah, that it just takes one team. You know.
Speaker 1: It's so we've we've seen teams, you know, line up
Speaker 1: and take guys that we didn't think, like, well that
Speaker 1: was a little bit of a little stretched there, a
Speaker 1: little reach. I think teams. You know, I said it
Speaker 1: was gonna be a crazy draft. Anybody want to argue
Speaker 1: with me that it against me that it won't that
Speaker 1: teams are just gonna stand in there and make picks
Speaker 1: and we're gonna just kind of like orderly go along here.
Speaker 1: No because and sorry if I cut you off, Dane.
Speaker 1: But even if there's not a whole bunch of jumping
Speaker 1: around and stuff. The thing that makes it crazy we
Speaker 1: were I was talking about this with a scout less
Speaker 1: than three hours ago. It's like nobody there's no consensus
Speaker 1: on who should go where one team. So that's what's
Speaker 1: gonna make this so much fun. That's what it's gonna
Speaker 1: make it's crazy. Is you know, we think Solomon Thomas
Speaker 1: is two overall, somebody else is like, oh, maybe eight,
Speaker 1: or maybe somebody likes litter Leonard Fournette. Some people will
Speaker 1: have him as the third best back going in the
Speaker 1: seventeen to twenty range. Somebody's got him going too so,
Speaker 1: and I haven't come across a consensus opinion about anybody
Speaker 1: except for Miles Garrett's. It's it's about the quarterbacks. Quarterbacks
Speaker 1: of the storyline of every first round, especially this year
Speaker 1: because Okay, perfect example, Deshaun Watson, I haven't number four
Speaker 1: in my mock draft. Kind of a just a possibility.
Speaker 1: The Jaguar has been We're into lake one of these quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: so I think that's a possible fit. But you see
Speaker 1: other Monk drafts and to Shaun Watson's going twenty five, right,
Speaker 1: you know. I mean, they're just a huge variance with
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks and where they're going to end up. I
Speaker 1: still think we'll see three in the top fifteen with Trubisky,
Speaker 1: Watson and Mahomes where who knows trades? What are the
Speaker 1: Brown's gonna do with that twelfth pick? Miles Garrett's going
Speaker 1: number one and in the Browns state pad at twelve
Speaker 1: and hope the right quarterback falls to them. Maybe they
Speaker 1: go in different direction altogether, but they're calling around because
Speaker 1: they want to see if they can trade up and
Speaker 1: get the quarterback if that is true, Bisky or you know,
Speaker 1: whoever they have, whoever they want to get. But they're
Speaker 1: not the only team making these calls and looking to
Speaker 1: go up and get that quarterback. Several teams are doing that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that you know, we clearly gave you the
Speaker 1: idea that if the Cowboys there at twenty eight were
Speaker 1: looking for tradeback scenarios, it would have to be the
Speaker 1: offensive tackles. Yeah, and they would have to be the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: All right, let me talk about those offensive tackles then, Dane,
Speaker 1: some of the maybe a bold eight minute you know
Speaker 1: you would make. Would you say that several three the
Speaker 1: offensive tackles would go before the Cowboys pick. I think four. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess if you include four offensive linemen, I think
Speaker 1: Forrest Lamp is in that mix. Ye, some teams like
Speaker 1: him as a tackle, but I think four offensive linemen
Speaker 1: will be off the board by twenty eight, maybe even
Speaker 1: top twenty five when you talk about Garrett Bowles, Forest Lamp,
Speaker 1: Cam Robinson and then Ryan Ramcheck. So this is a
Speaker 1: tackle starved league in a draft not very he uh
Speaker 1: not Mary made tackles that warrant first round consideration. So
Speaker 1: if you don't get your guy early, you're out of luck.
Speaker 1: And so those guys are gonna go very quickly off
Speaker 1: the board. I don't think that there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: tackle available for a trade up option at twenty eight.
Speaker 1: It's gonna have to be that quarterback then, and hey,
Speaker 1: that's fine with me, and you can kind of you
Speaker 1: can get both things going for you can keep your
Speaker 1: quarterback that provides you with the trade option. How let
Speaker 1: those tackles come off the board and pushed good defenders
Speaker 1: down to twenty eight. I'm fine with that. How about
Speaker 1: the wide receivers that I'm not saying that's gonna be
Speaker 1: a trade up scenario, but we haven't had many drafts
Speaker 1: where wide receivers have been and this is not a
Speaker 1: bad group of receivers, just banged up. Yeah, it's a
Speaker 1: really banged up group of receivers. So its mainly that's
Speaker 1: I don't know. He could go nine, he could go
Speaker 1: top ten, but he could also fall out of the
Speaker 1: first round because it just comes down to team's comfort
Speaker 1: with the not only the medical records, but just his
Speaker 1: durability moving forward. I mean, he's not a big guy.
Speaker 1: We know that obviously, but he is prone to injuries,
Speaker 1: and it's something that I can make the argument he's
Speaker 1: the most explosive offensive weapon in this draft. I can
Speaker 1: make that argument, But again, at what cost? At what
Speaker 1: point do you feel comfortable drafting a player who is
Speaker 1: such an injury risk. Yeah, I don't think Corey Davis's
Speaker 1: injury problems are it's not. But going back to the
Speaker 1: earlier point, which is that I've you know, I've seen
Speaker 1: people consider him anywhere from a top five pick to
Speaker 1: late first round just between the injury history and then
Speaker 1: you know how valuable is receiver for these teams that
Speaker 1: are picking. I just nobody seems to have a consensus
Speaker 1: on anything, and I think more so than the trades.
Speaker 1: I think that's what's gonna make this really interesting. If
Speaker 1: we determined it, he would be the one offensive guy
Speaker 1: or would we talk about O. J. Howard? But there
Speaker 1: is there is there is there a twenty eight If
Speaker 1: one of those off, one of those offensive guys would
Speaker 1: drive us away from a defensive player Davis Howard. Am
Speaker 1: I right about that or is it just Howard? I
Speaker 1: would it would? I mean, and it would depend on
Speaker 1: who's there. I would be really hesitant to take Corey Davis.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this one or two shows ago,
Speaker 1: just based on what's already there and what you have.
Speaker 1: I mocked him taking Curtis Samuel in the second round,
Speaker 1: so like, I'm not opposed to taking an offensive player
Speaker 1: at all, but a true wide receiver. Again, you know,
Speaker 1: we've talked about the number of roles that Curtis Samuel
Speaker 1: can fill, but a true why receiver who's gonna play
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I don't know how you spend a first
Speaker 1: round pick on that with what you've already got in place,
Speaker 1: not just this year, but I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: your top three receivers are in place for multiple years.
Speaker 1: It'd be tough though to pass Corey Davis though, wouldn't it.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can. But everything, uh that that
Speaker 1: they've said is correct. I mean, there's only so many
Speaker 1: touches to go around on offense, and you know we
Speaker 1: can roll out in different packages. But you know you're
Speaker 1: paying your wide receiver to X amount of money back.
Speaker 1: I mean, does is your one? Just where is he
Speaker 1: going to play? When you have Beasley in the slot.
Speaker 1: It's you have a crowded depth chart there already. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe that's the when you can feel the calls get
Speaker 1: a trade to happen. Yeah, but the tied end makes
Speaker 1: more sense if somehow which oj Howard's not fall and
Speaker 1: he's not gonna fall. That's that's why I mean, he's
Speaker 1: not gonna fall. Okay, Well, it appears that the time
Speaker 1: is running down for us to begin this alfwards a spectacle. Yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely again. You see how many people are like out
Speaker 1: in the street. It's all it is right there. So
Speaker 1: the clock is winding down until Commissioner Goodell will come
Speaker 1: to the podium, podium, excuse me, and he is making
Speaker 1: his way there now and he will open this eighty
Speaker 1: second NFL draft. Oh, Commissioner Goodell's being booed in Phillyum's stunning.
Speaker 1: Come on, Philly, come on there you go, go on,
Speaker 1: wwe on him. Bence McMahon, We are thrilled to be
Speaker 1: back here at Philadelphium, where the first draft was held
Speaker 1: nearly eighty years ago. So tonight we celebrate the great
Speaker 1: game that we all love, and we celebrate as NFL
Speaker 1: dreams come true. So it sounds like you're ready? Are
Speaker 1: you ready? The NFL Draft for twenty seventeen is officially open.
Speaker 1: The Cleveland Browns are on the clock, Thank you very much, Commissioner.
Speaker 1: So well does this clock yeah, over under eight minutes
Speaker 1: that Cleveland takes to make this pick. Well we will see. Cleveland,
Speaker 1: in fact, is on the clock right now. Unless there's
Speaker 1: a trade, it should be over under eighty seconds. You know.
Speaker 1: That's the one thing when uh, when I was able
Speaker 1: to run the draft in Philadelphia in nineteen night was
Speaker 1: ninety eight draft. If you go back and check who
Speaker 1: made their first round pick the quickest, it was me.
Speaker 1: I don't have time for I did. I just gotta
Speaker 1: you look at the time everybody took their fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: I think I turned my card in it nine minutes.
Speaker 1: I just I said, I looked at everybody self had enough.
Speaker 1: Do you like the Do you like the player Tray
Speaker 1: Thomas Florida today? Yeah, Trey Thomas, Florida State offensive tackle.
Speaker 1: We took in that draft for Philadelphia and and I
Speaker 1: get I. I Everybody's like, gosh, why'd you? And it
Speaker 1: did so quick, and I'm like, I got tired of
Speaker 1: waiting around. I just we read the eleventh pick and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, that's the most Brian brought
Speaker 1: us thing I've ever heard. I just I don't have
Speaker 1: all days. I don't have all day for this. I
Speaker 1: knew I wanted to take, and so we took. So
Speaker 1: the Brownies are on the clock. We think, we think,
Speaker 1: or do we know, Dane Brugler, that this pick is
Speaker 1: going to be Miles Garrett. This is the NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: We don't know one hundred percent anything. But if this,
Speaker 1: if the commission says any other name at number one
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns, any other name but Miles Garrett,
Speaker 1: it would be a complete shock. Well, we're seeing the
Speaker 1: they're showing shots of the Cleveland Browns war room as
Speaker 1: we speak. Uh they are. They look very comfortable. Hugh Jackson. Uh,
Speaker 1: they all look very relaxed, like they know exactly what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. Hopefully they will make the pick. They're
Speaker 1: on the clock, as I said, there at eight minutes
Speaker 1: as we speak right now. I mean, this isn't news
Speaker 1: to anybody, but this rundown of their first round picks. Yeah, brutal. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they've had some they have had some tough Richardson. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Gilbert Man's big thing. There's like four different general managers
Speaker 1: across that. That's the biggest problem that is they in
Speaker 1: the front office. But the one thing you could say
Speaker 1: about the Cowboys is that that in the last several years,
Speaker 1: the drafts have improved because the continent continuity of the
Speaker 1: coaching staff has remained the same. The general manager, of course,
Speaker 1: has always been the same. But now you know with
Speaker 1: Will McClay and everybody's becoming more comfortable with that. When
Speaker 1: you continue to change schemes, change coaches, change general managers,
Speaker 1: your scheme, you're all those things are gonna are just
Speaker 1: gonna wear you down. Uh, and you're not going to
Speaker 1: be able to grab the type of player or had
Speaker 1: build a roster with any consistency, right, And I think
Speaker 1: that's a credit to you know, ownership and just understanding
Speaker 1: that understanding that you need that continuity, you need time
Speaker 1: to let these guys do their jobs. And that's a
Speaker 1: lot of owners don't have patience, and talking about Cleveland,
Speaker 1: they don't have patience, and so that happens, so a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys get run out of town and
Speaker 1: they don't have a chance to develop anyone. And so hopefully,
Speaker 1: you know, at the new regime there in Cleveland, the
Speaker 1: analytics approach Hugh Jackson at his coach head coach. Hopefully
Speaker 1: they just give him a chance to go through a
Speaker 1: few drafts, build a team, see what happens. They just
Speaker 1: talk a little bit. I mean, we really haven't got
Speaker 1: to focus much because Miles Garrett. Of course, you know,
Speaker 1: we feel like he's a top three pick, so we
Speaker 1: haven't talked a whole lot about But when you sat
Speaker 1: down and watch Miles Garrett's game, what did and you
Speaker 1: had to look at tape where you had to kind
Speaker 1: of say, well, is he healthy or not? You know
Speaker 1: that was always going to be the question. Well, the
Speaker 1: moment last year's draft ended, Miles Garrett was the number
Speaker 1: one player in this draft from the start, and so
Speaker 1: going into the year, I mean I'm following him out
Speaker 1: the season and I was watching that Arkansas game when
Speaker 1: he took that cut block and injured his lower left leg,
Speaker 1: and you could tell he just wasn't the same. After
Speaker 1: that the Alabama game, he was maybe seventy percent. So
Speaker 1: you know that it is important. But the season opener
Speaker 1: against UCLA, I mean I thought he was outstanding. I
Speaker 1: mean you watch him, he's a heightweight, speed freak. And
Speaker 1: then you also factor in he knows what he's doing.
Speaker 1: I mean, he understands how to use his hands, use
Speaker 1: his leverage. You know, he's not just a guy that
Speaker 1: relies on the physical gifts. He understands how to do
Speaker 1: the dance. And I think for a player that just
Speaker 1: turned twenty one years old, that's going to continue to
Speaker 1: grow and develop. And so you're excited about who Miles
Speaker 1: Garrett is right now, but you're pumped about who he
Speaker 1: could be two three years from now. This would just
Speaker 1: be the most classic case. And I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: saying Myles Garrett it's definitely going to be an all pro.
Speaker 1: But like, just don't overthink it. It's it's right there
Speaker 1: for you. No, I've said this is the easiest decision
Speaker 1: of team picking number one has had since twenty twelve
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck in the Colts. I mean you look at
Speaker 1: last year. I mean some people would say clown. I
Speaker 1: would say Khalil Mack was right there. I mean this year,
Speaker 1: we don't have a Khalil Mack. That's really challenging Myles
Speaker 1: Garrett to be the top guy. So this take the
Speaker 1: past rusher and listen, we talk about Cleveland and how
Speaker 1: they've been searching for that quarterback since ninety nine. Cleveland
Speaker 1: hasn't had a legit pass rusher since the seventies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that talking about the number two position on
Speaker 1: the roster. They have not had a guy that's had
Speaker 1: back to back double digit sacks seasons or you know,
Speaker 1: just a defensive presence off the edge that teams worry about.
Speaker 1: And so to get a guy like Myles Garrett who
Speaker 1: could be that player, it's a big win for this organization.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what happens the rest of the draft,
Speaker 1: that the Browns are a winner in the draft if
Speaker 1: they take Miles Garrett number one. Well, they're showing the
Speaker 1: currently they're showing the Cleveland Browns draft table, and there's
Speaker 1: no movement there on the table. I think they're just
Speaker 1: gonna let this, uh this clock wind down and then
Speaker 1: hand their card in. But why wait, though, Yeah, why
Speaker 1: wait to whole ten minutes? Great, you know they've they've
Speaker 1: been on the clock since like a bit or something. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, well, to play Devil's advocate, I mean, give
Speaker 1: teams a chance and absolutely yeah yeah not me. Not
Speaker 1: when I was I yeah, i was, I'm like you
Speaker 1: know what, I didn't feel like anybody wanted my eleventh pick.
Speaker 1: I was just gonna go ahead and make that that.
Speaker 1: But but Dan, you you talked about it, and you're
Speaker 1: you're you're you know, you're an Ohio kid, and you
Speaker 1: you know you talk about with with with Milescate really
Speaker 1: what he means they need to get off that quarterback train.
Speaker 1: Now they got the twelfth pick, but that's it. But
Speaker 1: but you need a player like Miles Gary, and I
Speaker 1: just I keep hearing that, yeah, they need a quarterback. Well,
Speaker 1: they have picks twelve and thirty three and even sixty
Speaker 1: five to find a guy if they want to. And
Speaker 1: there you go. I mean, they're loaded with picks where
Speaker 1: you can get a quality quarterback. There's no need to
Speaker 1: do something stupid here. Pick is well, the pick is in.
Speaker 1: So we've got to keep an eye on commissioner at
Speaker 1: Godell Goodell excuse me going to the podium and announcing
Speaker 1: the pick here, but uh, we all seem to believe
Speaker 1: that this pick will will be Miles Garrett hexas a
Speaker 1: and there will be thirty one NFL teams that with
Speaker 1: their just a ghast if this is not Myles Garrett,
Speaker 1: that will be shocked. Yeah, if that, if this is
Speaker 1: not the pick here. It's not just us on the outside.
Speaker 1: Thirty one NFL teams will be shocked. Yeah, there's there's
Speaker 1: folks in uh in San Francisco right now or kind
Speaker 1: of thinking they're hoping, you know. But this is where
Speaker 1: you do your you do your football research. This is
Speaker 1: where you have your sources. This is where you have
Speaker 1: guys that you kind of talk with, whether it's scouts whoever,
Speaker 1: you know, at other teams. You have an idea of
Speaker 1: what Cleveland is probably gonna do here. So maybe no
Speaker 1: surprise for the forty nine ers if Myles Garrett in
Speaker 1: fact is and we all believe that, I mean we
Speaker 1: feel like that, you know, all along this is really
Speaker 1: your number one guy, though, isn't it Dane without a doubt? Okay, well,
Speaker 1: here's the commissioner and he's walking to the chess pieces
Speaker 1: are flying in the air with the first pick in
Speaker 1: the two seventeen NFL Draft, But Cleveland Browns select Miles Garrett.
Speaker 1: All right, there you go, tas all right, Miles Garrett,
Speaker 1: thank you, Cleveland. Yeah, we're just doing what's smart. How
Speaker 1: about just doing your job? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 1: Do your job? So the Cleveland Browns, in fact, take
Speaker 1: Miles Garrett, and like I said, it really I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously they Browns have a lot of picks. They want
Speaker 1: to hit home runs at these picks. It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: who else they pick. They just hit a home run
Speaker 1: for this draft. And this draft will be remembered as
Speaker 1: the one where they took Miles Garrett number one overall.
Speaker 1: And I think he's gonna make a huge impact from
Speaker 1: day one. This is a guy you want on your
Speaker 1: football team. It's gonna be interesting now what they do
Speaker 1: at twelve if they want to move up and try
Speaker 1: to get that quarterback. And that's actually I've been you know,
Speaker 1: in my not that I'm the expert that Dane Brugler is,
Speaker 1: but in the mock draft that I did, I had
Speaker 1: them taking Deshaun Watson twelve. Pick whatever quarterback you want,
Speaker 1: and pick whatever spot you want. If even if you
Speaker 1: want to trade up to five and get rid of
Speaker 1: you know, get rid of a pick or two to
Speaker 1: get that, you can do whatever you want now because
Speaker 1: you have a surefire guy and Miles Garrett, nobody's going
Speaker 1: to criticize what you do to get your quarterback. Now
Speaker 1: that you've landed the draft's best player. Absolutely, And remember
Speaker 1: who's the new defensive coordinator for the Browns, Greg Williams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: talk about a guy who thrives on pressure. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's it's a good fit for that football team.
Speaker 1: It's amazing how all these rumors came out about Traubisky
Speaker 1: and you just wonder where all that came from, because
Speaker 1: I think this has been a no brainer. I don't
Speaker 1: think they wavered this is the best player in the draft.
Speaker 1: But like I said, now we have to watch the
Speaker 1: Browns see what they do. If they want to creep up,
Speaker 1: get the number three, get the number five, get the quarterback,
Speaker 1: or if maybe they just go without a quarterback in
Speaker 1: the first round, who knows? What do you think? All right?
Speaker 1: And the popular one is they jump up to five
Speaker 1: and trade with Tennessee what would it cost that costing
Speaker 1: you thirty three and thirty three and probably a two
Speaker 1: next year. Let me do that just going off the
Speaker 1: Cowboys chart, thirty three worth thirty three is worth that.
Speaker 1: We've talked about thirty three before. That's worth five eighty. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you go five eighty and you're trying to go
Speaker 1: from that's that's five is worth seventeen hundred, So you're
Speaker 1: trying to go from twelve to five. Is that what
Speaker 1: you want to do? David? Yep, what's twelve worth? Twelve
Speaker 1: is worth? Twelve is worth twelve hundred. So you'd be
Speaker 1: overpaying a little bit. Oh so thirty three might get
Speaker 1: it there, thirty three you could get, or you could
Speaker 1: do fifty two and then another pick maybe. Really, I
Speaker 1: think you want to do it as clean as possible.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think you just want to do it
Speaker 1: as clean as possible and that and that's really that's
Speaker 1: the point I'm trying to make here is Miles Garrett
Speaker 1: is already in the bag. You've got him, You've got
Speaker 1: the draft's best player. If you're giving up thirty three
Speaker 1: to go get the quarterback you like the most, who cares?
Speaker 1: And here's the thing about thirty three is it's not
Speaker 1: just a normal draft pick. It's that first pick in
Speaker 1: the second round, and it's a huge, huge power play
Speaker 1: when you have that thirty third pick. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: was I'll tell you what though. That's Ah, we'll be uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see if Cleveland in fact finds a
Speaker 1: way to get to ten of a trade. Okay, okay
Speaker 1: with Chicago two, and we feel like that Chicago Dane
Speaker 1: Burglar's been on this one for about three weeks. Now, okay, quarterback, quarterback,
Speaker 1: I've this is the one. The only reason. Does that
Speaker 1: mean San Francisco was going to take a quarterback? I
Speaker 1: think they probably trade a trade of the Browns from
Speaker 1: twelve to two two. I hear you see, Okay the
Speaker 1: brown Okay, it says now the Bears have acquired this
Speaker 1: second pick from the forty nine ers. Do you think
Speaker 1: they're worried about? I mean, okay, now we're into the
Speaker 1: Ford Center war room camp you could you've got that.
Speaker 1: Everybody's in position there. Okay, this now counts spiffy. It
Speaker 1: looks yeah, very very spiffy in there with Jerry Jones,
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett's Stephen Jones up talking to to folks, some
Speaker 1: visitors there in the war room. We'll give you the
Speaker 1: roster rundown as as we go around. It looks like
Speaker 1: Jessey Junior's sons. Yes, Jerry Junior's son James is in
Speaker 1: the war room as well, on the table. So this
Speaker 1: has to be a quarterback, right, I mean, you're not
Speaker 1: trading up for Jamal Adams, especially if you were already
Speaker 1: picking three to begin with. You know, I would think
Speaker 1: that this would be for Trubisky. I would think it
Speaker 1: would be And Dane, I was about to give you
Speaker 1: full credit for being on this. Do you feel good
Speaker 1: about this? That is a quarterbacker? You feel like that
Speaker 1: they're going. Now, let's check out the Chicago Bears needs
Speaker 1: from Dane Brugler here. Cornerback, safety, possibly, I said, cornerback, safety, quarterback,
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, wide receiver, and linebacker. That would be the
Speaker 1: Chicago Bears once again. Cornerback safety. They signed a Mukamara,
Speaker 1: Cooper and Demps, but they need more help there. So
Speaker 1: possibly right there, corner safe. I mean, that's who I
Speaker 1: thought could be in play. But there's I said this. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know a couple like a month ago, there was
Speaker 1: a team in the NFC North who during their draft meetings,
Speaker 1: they said that they were consensus. They all thought Chicago
Speaker 1: was taking a quarterback at three and they got to
Speaker 1: beat TRABISKI. Yeah, and I kind of, I mean I
Speaker 1: put that out there. I kind of kind of told
Speaker 1: Chicago fans listen, they teams think that this is going
Speaker 1: to be a quarterback. I don't know what do you think.
Speaker 1: Let's see what they gave up here? So they gave
Speaker 1: up a third, they gave they gave up a boatload here,
Speaker 1: gave with a third overall pick, a third round pick
Speaker 1: seven overall, Oh my god, fourth round pick, which would
Speaker 1: be they go sticking up sixty seven one to eleven
Speaker 1: at a two thousand and eighteen round pick. Hate, Whatever
Speaker 1: is happening right now? You're trying to tell me that
Speaker 1: I can't get sixty five from a team trying to
Speaker 1: come up six spots, but they just jumped one and
Speaker 1: they're giving up all this. Yeah, this is insane. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: I wonder what they're worried about that another team training up.
Speaker 1: Are they worried about someone someone that maybe San Francisco
Speaker 1: has a deal on the table. This has got to
Speaker 1: be for Trubisky. It has to be. It has to be.
Speaker 1: It has to be giving up this much. They're probably
Speaker 1: they might be worried about a team going up to
Speaker 1: San Franciso. They probably had to give a ransom that
Speaker 1: they just did for them to get this spot. They
Speaker 1: obviously were worried about somebody, okay, coming up from behind
Speaker 1: and getting maybe the Jets, you know, maybe the Jets
Speaker 1: at six going all the way to two. Let me
Speaker 1: ask you this, if is San Francisco calling Chicago like, hey,
Speaker 1: this offers on the table from the Jets. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I've seen Jerry Jones do this before. I've seen him
Speaker 1: play two teams off each other. And we and and
Speaker 1: Jerry got a general in, both the general managers to
Speaker 1: admit who they were going to take, and they and
Speaker 1: let's not forget that the Bears just signed Mike Glennon
Speaker 1: to a pretty hefty contract. Yeah. Thing with that, I
Speaker 1: mean with any contract, I mean money. I know you
Speaker 1: can get out of it if you need to, because it's, okay,
Speaker 1: basically a one year contract. Okay, the picks in, the
Speaker 1: picks in from the Bears, Oh Dane, real quick, though,
Speaker 1: if give me a thumbnail, if in fact you've been
Speaker 1: on this, give me a thumbnail about Trubisky, if in
Speaker 1: fact you know just a little bit an idea about
Speaker 1: the player. One year starter that's been beaten to death.
Speaker 1: We know that. But what's his fatal flaw besides the
Speaker 1: thirteen starts? I mean, I think he checks all the
Speaker 1: boxes what you want an NFL quarterback. I think with
Speaker 1: the Bears, It's a great situation for him because Mike
Speaker 1: Lennon is a quarterback this year, not Mitchell Trubisky, right,
Speaker 1: And Mike Lennon might be the quarterback in two thousand
Speaker 1: and eighteen. It just depends how they want to play this.
Speaker 1: But we have a commission going to the podium right now. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here we go, gets commission to podium. Here's the commissioner Whitney.
Speaker 1: Second pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Chicago
Speaker 1: Bears select Mitchell Trubisky. There you go, hello, Mitchell Trubisky. Well,
Speaker 1: good job there, Dane Brugo. You were on that one
Speaker 1: very very early, but you had it at three. If
Speaker 1: everybody stay in put only I did that in my
Speaker 1: final mock draft. Sometimes you get talked out of that,
Speaker 1: don't Yeah I did. Yeah, Well that's can we for
Speaker 1: a real quick sec um. Considering all of the criticism
Speaker 1: that he drew upon his hiring, I have a much
Speaker 1: higher opinion of John Lynch right now than I did
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago. Anybody with me? Yeah, I mean about
Speaker 1: what do you say to pull off? Yeah? Yeah? He
Speaker 1: just fleeced the Bears for one one, one spot from
Speaker 1: three to two. He just got a half a draft's
Speaker 1: worth of picks for and I don't have that high
Speaker 1: an opinion of Mitchell Trubisky. Maybe that's part of it, um,
Speaker 1: but I just that's unbelievable to me. Like, what did
Speaker 1: the Bears know? I mean, yeah, that's have you ever
Speaker 1: I don't remember. Must have really been worried about somebody.
Speaker 1: Like I said, they must have been worried about a
Speaker 1: team coming from uh, from far back and trying to
Speaker 1: make a run. Now, look at the team that's got
Speaker 1: two first round picks. Would you consider I mean, I
Speaker 1: just I'm throwing it out there, Dave New Orleans, Yeah,
Speaker 1: with something. I mean, you know, maybe maybe Sean Payton
Speaker 1: makes an aggressive play up the board to try and
Speaker 1: get the quarterback of the future there right. You know,
Speaker 1: you just don't know. He probably felt like he had
Speaker 1: to do something. And the Bears fans, you got a
Speaker 1: draft party going on in Chicago right now, and the
Speaker 1: and the uh, the Bears fans are some are very happy,
Speaker 1: some are plotting the pick, some are uh, hands in
Speaker 1: the in their face. But for every unhappy person that
Speaker 1: looked like there were several And I just I hope
Speaker 1: that they knew something and they didn't just do that
Speaker 1: because they were worried. You only have to wait one
Speaker 1: more pick. Yeah, And for that matter, i mean, who's
Speaker 1: this If the Bears gave up all that to get
Speaker 1: to two, I mean, what would the Saints have had
Speaker 1: to have given up to get from eleven? Well, that's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Then you probably give up a first
Speaker 1: but yeah, you got eleven and thirty two, but you
Speaker 1: might maybe have to give up more than that. Exactly
Speaker 1: you might have. But let's recap that trade San Francisco.
Speaker 1: In the trade, they pick up the third pick overall,
Speaker 1: and then they also get the Bears third round pick,
Speaker 1: that's number sixty seven. And then they also get the Bears,
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken here, their fourth round pick, which
Speaker 1: would be pick let me flipped to it here real quick,
Speaker 1: that'd be pick yeah, the fourth round pick, pick one eleven,
Speaker 1: and then next year's three. So what to pick up
Speaker 1: A three, A four, and next year's three for that trade?
Speaker 1: So the Niners go back to back at sixty six
Speaker 1: and sixty seven. Now that's that's that's what they got.
Speaker 1: Good for them? Yea, yeah, that's exactly what that's. Hey,
Speaker 1: make sure that that's how you say yes, yes they do.
Speaker 1: That's how you turn your crappy roster around real fast.
Speaker 1: And there you go. So the forty nine ers are
Speaker 1: now on the clock after the trade with UH the Bears. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about forty nine er needs UH after all
Speaker 1: of this, Yeah, they can still like who are the
Speaker 1: guys that they've all the obviously all the guys they've
Speaker 1: been linked to are still there. If you want Solomon Thomas,
Speaker 1: yes you want them all Adams, if you want who
Speaker 1: I mean, I wouldn't take him at three. But if
Speaker 1: you want Leonard Fournette, he's there. Yeah, go for it.
Speaker 1: That that rumor has been too I've heard it too much.
Speaker 1: The you're thinking you're to forty nine. I don't like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: but what about sticking with the same team, Yeah, getting
Speaker 1: the safety Yeah, and that makes a lot of sense,
Speaker 1: makes a lot of sense. Okay, as you're looking right
Speaker 1: there at the Ford Center war room cam, I'll identify
Speaker 1: everybody in the room in the in the frame there
Speaker 1: as were looking from the left corner coming around, that's
Speaker 1: Lionel vital Uh and the and the left corner right
Speaker 1: there really a National Scout long time executive Lionel I
Speaker 1: were together at NFL Europe. Dear a friend of you,
Speaker 1: yea dear friend of mine. Great guy, great scout, he's
Speaker 1: a he's a nice addition. He came in with the
Speaker 1: team last year, so this is his first full year
Speaker 1: with the team. So good to see him in the chair.
Speaker 1: Of course, there's a Jerry Junior and his son are there,
Speaker 1: and now the war room cam goes away as I
Speaker 1: was as I was trying to identify everybody there, but
Speaker 1: you get the idea of we'll we'll fill, we'll get it,
Speaker 1: we'll get it back and get it back exactly. So yeah,
Speaker 1: they were just, uh, maybe they're listening to what we're
Speaker 1: talking about, and they said, well, maybe we need to
Speaker 1: turn that away for some reason. But anyway, okay, San Francisco, Uh,
Speaker 1: here's an offense that was Their past offense was thirty
Speaker 1: second to the league. Run offense was fourth in the league.
Speaker 1: Past defense was fourteenth and run defense was thirty second.
Speaker 1: And it looks like the needs would be the quarterback, cornerback,
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, defensive end, and running back. All along game
Speaker 1: we've kind of thought this could be where Solomon Thomas goes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: talk about and and and a switch in scheme right
Speaker 1: going to a fourth three, scoring to a fourth three scheme. Uh,
Speaker 1: and you know kind of running that that Seattle scheme.
Speaker 1: And who do we compare Salomon Thomas Michael Bennett style?
Speaker 1: Right inside, outside, right, impact the game the front from
Speaker 1: different ways. You know, That's that's who Solomon Thomas is.
Speaker 1: And so if you're going to get this new regime
Speaker 1: they're kicking off this, uh, you know, this new era
Speaker 1: of forty nine ers football. I don't think he can
Speaker 1: go wrong with Salomon Thomas. You know, you can't go
Speaker 1: wrong with a player who you're talking about just on
Speaker 1: the field. He's about off the field, the leadership that
Speaker 1: he that he has, that he presents the locker room.
Speaker 1: I think it'd be a home run pick. Dave. You
Speaker 1: know what you've seen of Salomon Thomas. You like with
Speaker 1: Dane's saying there, don't you the flexibility to play defensive, end,
Speaker 1: to kick inside, never come off the field, a little
Speaker 1: pass rush, especially if you're moving to a four to three.
Speaker 1: The main question I have about Solomon Thomas is what
Speaker 1: does that do for Eric Armstead and DeForrest Buckner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: are your other pac twelve first round picks that they've
Speaker 1: accumulated over the years. Yeah, I'm and hey, you can
Speaker 1: never have too many. I mean that's don't obviously, don't
Speaker 1: let that stop you from drafting another pass rusher. But
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how that line would look with
Speaker 1: those three guys. Yeah, well, the pick is in. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get it from the commissioner. I'll finish up with
Speaker 1: you real quick. As you look over to war room
Speaker 1: camp Charlotte Jones, Anderson right there next to Jason Garrett,
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones, of course, Stephen Jones. There's Will McClay at
Speaker 1: the top of the table. To the left of Stephen Jones,
Speaker 1: Chris Hall, the college scouting coordinator, Todd Williams football operations
Speaker 1: and contracts guys. So that's all the guys at the
Speaker 1: main tables. Add lady at the main table. As you
Speaker 1: see what's going on there in the war room right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's like I said, the pick is in for San Francisco.
Speaker 1: We feel like this is gonna be Solomon Thomas. I
Speaker 1: I you might we talked again about the safety, but
Speaker 1: but we just liked the We like the flexibility of Thomas.
Speaker 1: Here don't we anytime? I feel like any time you
Speaker 1: change to a new scheme. Yeah, hey, what did the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do when they moved to the three four? They
Speaker 1: got where? Got where? Exactly? Kind of set the absolute
Speaker 1: absolutely so, uh that's uh. David Shaw. If you're watching
Speaker 1: the NFL network coverage of this, David Shaw is a
Speaker 1: head coach at Stanford. He is on the panel that's
Speaker 1: handling this first round. Commissioners now at the podium pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the San Francisco forty
Speaker 1: nine ers select Solomon Thomas. There you go, defensive end Stanford.
Speaker 1: All right, Salomon Thomas, uh from uh Copel High School? Ye,
Speaker 1: that's right. Hey, the first of the own the second
Speaker 1: excuse me of the Dallas guys. Yeah, and so it's
Speaker 1: right of a third here pretty quickly. Yeah. I think
Speaker 1: it's nice to see nice to see him selected just
Speaker 1: as a quality guy, just a quality, quality guy, as
Speaker 1: a pure Homer. I don't, I don't. I don't like
Speaker 1: how Dallas claims Jamal Williams he's he's a Louisiana guy,
Speaker 1: Well Adams, Jamal Williams. Oh I was listening to an interview,
Speaker 1: did yes, thank you, and Jamal Adams said that Texas
Speaker 1: easily the best state in the nation. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: just he's from here. I get it, guy, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna claim him. I don't care. I don't blame you.
Speaker 1: Heck of a player who you know, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: have to wait long to hear his name come off
Speaker 1: the board. All right, Suliman Thomas has gone. That brings
Speaker 1: up an interesting scenario here for Jacksonville. Who Yeah, complete
Speaker 1: wild I mean all these teams have been wild cards. Yeah. This,
Speaker 1: you know, the trade was huge. That that was amazing.
Speaker 1: I'm still kind of trying to wrap my brain around it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's something that the to what they had
Speaker 1: to give up, they must have been really scared. The
Speaker 1: Browns are trying to get up to two, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I made this. I made this, the talk about the
Speaker 1: Maybe it was just hey, yeah, the Brownies were trying
Speaker 1: to get there. Maybe that was somebody somebody just retweeted this.
Speaker 1: And by the for anybody listening, like, tweet at me,
Speaker 1: hit me up on Twitter. I'm multitasking. I want y'all
Speaker 1: to be a part of this um. But somebody just
Speaker 1: retweeted per their model moving from second to third. Overall,
Speaker 1: as were thirty four points in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 1: and the forty nine ers got three hundred and sixteen
Speaker 1: extra points. Like that's much more of the Bears gave up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Bears were, they were concerned, and Dane's right, I
Speaker 1: mean I had teams in the middle, but we talked
Speaker 1: about the Browns. To me, didn't look like they were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they were celebrating, like they weren't doing anything. That's why
Speaker 1: I kind of I left the Browns when I saw
Speaker 1: the Browns war room and everybody's up high five and
Speaker 1: nobody was locked in. If they sat there and kind
Speaker 1: of we're all owned in. You were thinking, Okay, they're
Speaker 1: trying to get the second pick here. But I just
Speaker 1: didn't see that. So I didn't feel like the Brownies
Speaker 1: were the team involved. But anyway, nice job, nice job
Speaker 1: by them to make that work. Oh and something else,
Speaker 1: not really related to that, but really interesting. I got
Speaker 1: retweeted into my timeline too. Philadelphia police estimate that that
Speaker 1: crowd we saw seventy thousand people. That's great, that's like
Speaker 1: twice what the Chargers are gonna draw. Yeah, there, that's
Speaker 1: more than basically every NFL stadium, but like Cowboys and
Speaker 1: the Rams, if they sold out, right, like, there's only
Speaker 1: like maybe three stadiums in the NFL that seat more
Speaker 1: than that. That's crazy. Yeah, that that is uh, that
Speaker 1: is uh okay. So Jacksonville is on the clock and
Speaker 1: actually the pick is in from Jacksonville. Dained a couple
Speaker 1: of different We've heard some rumors about litterd Fournett. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is. I wouldn't even call that a rumor. I
Speaker 1: think you say that's a that's a that's gonna be
Speaker 1: some truth. I just of the spots. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know that there was a late push for him to
Speaker 1: go to which I never believed. But you see him
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville and you see him in Carolina. Those are
Speaker 1: the two spots. Yeah, at least at the top of
Speaker 1: the board where you see him go the most often.
Speaker 1: I mean, well, Tom, Yeah, I used to work with
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin, and Tom wants he's trying to make his
Speaker 1: football team tougher. That's important. That is really really important. Well,
Speaker 1: let's talk about Leonard Fournette, Dave. I'll let you because
Speaker 1: you know we're a lumps. I don't like talking about
Speaker 1: Leonard because I'm so hopelessly biased. I think he talked
Speaker 1: about him. He's a freak he's and he's not. Obviously
Speaker 1: he's not Miles Garrett, but like he's. I think he's
Speaker 1: every bit as freakishly athletic as Garrett in terms of
Speaker 1: what he can do for a guy his size. And
Speaker 1: I think, if you really want me to put on
Speaker 1: my purple and gold glasses. Yeah, And he got a
Speaker 1: bum rap in twenty sixteen because he hurt his ankle
Speaker 1: in preseason camp. He was gimpy from the get go.
Speaker 1: He's playing on a team that did not have a
Speaker 1: viable passing threat, so he was basically what everybody knew
Speaker 1: to target every time they played LSU. And he was
Speaker 1: hurt for half the year, and he still had a
Speaker 1: pretty damn good season. Thinking he finished shy of a
Speaker 1: thousand yards, but not buy a lot. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: he's powerful, he's fast as hell. He can make you miss.
Speaker 1: I know there's there are people that are going to
Speaker 1: tell me that he can only run what he's blocked for.
Speaker 1: I don't buy that. I'm not saying he's Adrian Peterson,
Speaker 1: but I honestly I think he's been in the spotlight
Speaker 1: for so long that his warts are so public that
Speaker 1: they are everybody see the violent runs. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: this is cliche, but throw on the tape. Yeah, I'll
Speaker 1: I don't know if I would. I wouldn't have taken
Speaker 1: him at two. Yeah, I don't even know if i'd
Speaker 1: take him at four. But I like him a lot. Okay,
Speaker 1: Dane other needs you talk about offensive tackle, tight end, quarterback,
Speaker 1: defensive line, and guard. But here's the thing about the
Speaker 1: Jaguars is they don't have that glaring need for a
Speaker 1: team that's so bad. They had a lot of high
Speaker 1: picks except for quarterback. Well what about and for the
Speaker 1: last like three days, you've kind of heard rumblings about
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson all the way up if yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: we feel about that. I mean, that's where I went
Speaker 1: with my mock. But I think with the running back,
Speaker 1: I mean, if it's kind of what Tom Coughlin wants,
Speaker 1: he wants a physical Okay, here's the commission. Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna find out Whitney. Fourth pick in the twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Jacksonville Jaguars select Leonard Fournett. Oh, there
Speaker 1: we go, running. Wow, how about Leonard Fournette, Tom Coughlin.
Speaker 1: It's funny because maybe he's maybe he's the answer to help.
Speaker 1: All right, Blake Bortles. Huh, let me throw this out
Speaker 1: there at you, uh team picking fourth overall? Yeah, a
Speaker 1: lot of pieces in place. Yep, sounds familiar. Had a
Speaker 1: disappointing season the year before. Right, you can't point to
Speaker 1: a super glaring need. So you're what you're saying that
Speaker 1: Jaguars are gonna draft just Dobbs in the fifth round
Speaker 1: and go to the freakin for get a buy in
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yeah, I mean, I mean, at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, if you don't trust your quarterback, that's
Speaker 1: a problem. And I don't know if Blake Bortles is
Speaker 1: the answer, but if there's one guy who can help Blake.
Speaker 1: But they got the receivers in place. Their line's not terrible,
Speaker 1: it's not awful. Right, Yeah, well, day talking about we
Speaker 1: might use some help at tackle. We got stage yet there.
Speaker 1: But yeah, in terms of this pick, you know you're
Speaker 1: not gonna take a tackle here. Yeah, they do need
Speaker 1: help on the offensive line. And look, this gives all right,
Speaker 1: what this pick is is hard tackle, really, right, And
Speaker 1: what this pick is, this is a notice to Blake Bortles.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, hey this they're trying to help it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're probably not going to pick up your fifth year option.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna pay you what eighteen million dollars whatever
Speaker 1: the fifth year option is. It's it's crazy money and
Speaker 1: Blake Portles hasn't earned it. But okay, so you're gonna
Speaker 1: enter this year in the last season of your deal.
Speaker 1: We just gave you a thumper at running back, a
Speaker 1: guy that can you know, be your Ezekiel Elliott. Hopefully
Speaker 1: this is your shot show us you're an NFL quarterback,
Speaker 1: because if you don't, then you know you're going to
Speaker 1: be a backup next year somewhere else. So this is
Speaker 1: this is a notice to Blake Bortles that, hey, this
Speaker 1: is your shot. Let's see what you can, see what
Speaker 1: you can do. And I mean it's funny because last
Speaker 1: year when the Cowboys picked Zeke, I was I mean,
Speaker 1: I was all aboard that Zeke train. But for another team,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, um, maybe you could have found something
Speaker 1: better to do with that for overall pick. But Leonard
Speaker 1: Fournette will help that team. He will help Blake Bortles.
Speaker 1: He gives them an identity. It's the same stuff we've
Speaker 1: heard coming out of this building for the last two
Speaker 1: or three years. Is that hard nosed, smash mouth identity.
Speaker 1: I mean, he can be that guy. So if if
Speaker 1: he can transform the way they play and like the
Speaker 1: culture around here or around there, the way that Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott did. I have a hard time knocking to pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I personally I like the pick. Yeah, even though I
Speaker 1: had you liked the player, Brian, I had, Well, I'm
Speaker 1: like you, Dave, I get what you guys go to school. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: I get. I feel like I can't be overly. I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm more critical of LSU players than I
Speaker 1: am nice, you know, So I just I want to
Speaker 1: I want to be able to. I want to be
Speaker 1: able to say what I feel about this kid. I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna have to work on the pass protection
Speaker 1: part of it. I think he's gonna have to work
Speaker 1: on the catching part. But I don't think they asked
Speaker 1: him to do all that. I think the run is
Speaker 1: clearly his strength. The physical reality about that, Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I think you know, the complete back stuff is going
Speaker 1: to have to be is gonna have to be worked
Speaker 1: on here, and you know, and I'm okay with that.
Speaker 1: I mean, if anybody I say, you, you put up
Speaker 1: a pretty good, uh, a pretty good comparison of what,
Speaker 1: you know, what Jacksonville is thinking about. I mean, they
Speaker 1: saw exactly, they saw exactly what happened when you pair
Speaker 1: a running back, you know, with a quarterback that but
Speaker 1: you know, not that you know, they were they were
Speaker 1: sit a situation too where uh you know, they're they
Speaker 1: need to they need to see what they have in
Speaker 1: their quarterback. They do and you know Tom Coughlin, Uh
Speaker 1: you know we we were kind of wondering what type
Speaker 1: of impact would he have on this team? Is the
Speaker 1: front office? I think this kind of matches. You know
Speaker 1: when Tom Coughlin was winning Super Bowls. Right, they have
Speaker 1: a pretty strong run game, right, Absolutely, that's what they
Speaker 1: want to get back to. Uh. You know, Chris Ivory
Speaker 1: has not panned out when they signed gave him all
Speaker 1: that money free agency. T J. Yelden has been a
Speaker 1: flash player here and there. Uh, now you have your
Speaker 1: Bell cow, a guy who you know, let's let's see
Speaker 1: if he could be a truth three down player. Uh.
Speaker 1: You know, I think you're you're correct in saying that
Speaker 1: he wasn't. He didn't really have the chance to, you know,
Speaker 1: prove he's a capable pass catcher on a consistent basis.
Speaker 1: But he's going to get that chance. He's gonna get
Speaker 1: the opportunity. And if you ask what he has to
Speaker 1: work on to be you know, we raved about Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott as a catcher and as a blocker. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean we raved well and I mean did he
Speaker 1: but we saw it? Yeah, we saw it at Ohio State.
Speaker 1: You know, we were trying to at LSU felt like
Speaker 1: that maybe they should have used him more, should have
Speaker 1: maybe tried to use him some more in the passing game.
Speaker 1: And that well, I mean, Brian you know better than
Speaker 1: any oh, I know. That's why he got a dynamic office.
Speaker 1: That's why. Okay, the Tennessee Titans are on the clock.
Speaker 1: They're in a minute thirty interested if they're they're gonna
Speaker 1: stay here. Well, this is a pick that they got
Speaker 1: from the LA Rams and the trade last year. Right,
Speaker 1: Tennessee's been trying to move back. Um, so I think
Speaker 1: I stay put, make a pick. It didn't any trade off.
Speaker 1: You're getting to the point now where you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to stand in there, make a pick because you're you're
Speaker 1: inside a minute. This is where we look at the secondary,
Speaker 1: right yeah, this is this is absolutely where you start
Speaker 1: to look at the secondary. Let me fire off the
Speaker 1: team needs for you right there, if I could. That's
Speaker 1: what they're looking at them in the war room right
Speaker 1: now of the Tennessee Titans. Cornerback, corner back, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: inside linebacker, tight end, guard and center, some type of
Speaker 1: combination there. They need a guard. They need a guard.
Speaker 1: So cornerback, wide receiver, inside linebacker, tight end, center, guard,
Speaker 1: some type of combination inside thirty seconds right now, and
Speaker 1: have yet to hand in their card. And this is
Speaker 1: the spot where we all were just talking. This was
Speaker 1: a popular trade theory. Yes, yeah, and so I think
Speaker 1: you know, we think in secondary here yes, I mean
Speaker 1: it's so it just comes down to they have a
Speaker 1: need a corner. They do Marshawn Lattimore, he's see he's
Speaker 1: the number one corners. It just comes down to are
Speaker 1: they comfortable with the injury situation? Yeah, you know, not
Speaker 1: many players have hamstring surgery. You know, you hear about
Speaker 1: tender hamstrings and all that. This guy had a hamstring surgery.
Speaker 1: It's been an issue that he's had back in since
Speaker 1: high school. But if the medical staff thumbs up, you know,
Speaker 1: this shouldn't be an issue. You know, dbs are often
Speaker 1: banged up. As long as this is guy we think
Speaker 1: can play and he's gonna start fourteen to sixteen games
Speaker 1: every year, then it can't be. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be a bad pick. Let's talk about Tennessee. The pick
Speaker 1: is in for them. Their offense. Their pass offense was
Speaker 1: twenty fifth in the league. Run offense was third, and
Speaker 1: that's because they have a mobile quarterback I think was
Speaker 1: moving to be able to remove around. Defense was past
Speaker 1: defense was thirtieth, and run defense was second. So usually
Speaker 1: if you're bad in the pass, you're pretty good in
Speaker 1: the run. So let's see if in fact, again, then
Speaker 1: eds are they talked about from Dane Brugler cornerback, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: inside linebacker and tight end and center guard combination. And
Speaker 1: let's remember they have the eighteenth pick as well, so
Speaker 1: they need a weapon for Mariota. But you don't have
Speaker 1: to do that here. There's no excuse for them not
Speaker 1: being pretty damn good this year. And I mean they
Speaker 1: were pretty I mean they were nine and seventeen last
Speaker 1: year and they probably make the playoffs if Mariota doesn't
Speaker 1: get hurt down the stretch in that division. Yeah. Actually,
Speaker 1: you know when it's interesting, Dane, you have wide receiver
Speaker 1: as a need though. Is it something though that they
Speaker 1: don't have enough weapons for Mariota? That to me, that's
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we talk about Matthews sharp or saw,
Speaker 1: but neither really spectacular. No, they need a DeMarco Murray
Speaker 1: came in and did a hell of a job for them.
Speaker 1: Pro bowler Derrick Henry. I mean they have they have weapons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they need to get the one true weapon as as
Speaker 1: a pass came right. Commissioners at this podium seventeen NFL
Speaker 1: Draft the Tennessee Titans. Corey Davis. Hey, here you go,
Speaker 1: Corey Davis. Say, who's going crazy now? Jeff Kavanagh, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we did a monk. We did a mock on trust
Speaker 1: the tape. What they should do? They picked Corey Davis.
Speaker 1: This is who they said they should take at five.
Speaker 1: Good for him? Did Oh man, my man is rocking
Speaker 1: the coral jacket. I think that's coral color. Oh he
Speaker 1: I saw him in the pre He looks fresh, looks
Speaker 1: fresh to death. Look good for him and Dan Dane
Speaker 1: kind of touched on this a minute ago, is they
Speaker 1: have pick eighteen, so they don't have to do this.
Speaker 1: But I love the fact that they did just go
Speaker 1: get who you think is the best playmaker in this draft,
Speaker 1: which I mean if you're drafting him top well, all right,
Speaker 1: Fournette wasn't there. They didn't need a running back whatever,
Speaker 1: best wide receiver in the draft or one A to
Speaker 1: one B. You know. I love the fact that they
Speaker 1: go out there, they get their franchise quarterback, a guy
Speaker 1: to work with right away. You add him to Murray
Speaker 1: and Henry. They got Delaney Walker still doing Pro Bowl
Speaker 1: caliber stuff over there. I mean, like I said, the
Speaker 1: Titans should be somebody to reckon with this year, and
Speaker 1: this only helps that. Yeah, he is fascinating. This is
Speaker 1: a player who we have not seen since ye since
Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl. Yeah, he chose not to play the
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. Right then he injured his ankle and he
Speaker 1: was out of the out of the combine, wasn't able
Speaker 1: to participate in in the Pro Day, and you know,
Speaker 1: he were hoping we'd be able to see him work
Speaker 1: out for scouts before this tonight the draft, but he
Speaker 1: just wasn't able to. But it looks like he's walking fine,
Speaker 1: honestly to the commissioner right and and and talking to
Speaker 1: some trainers around the league about him and Dane. We
Speaker 1: got into this a little bit in the on one
Speaker 1: oh five three about the injury, that the fact he
Speaker 1: had screws, he had a plate. But everything looks very,
Speaker 1: very positive for him for him to be ready for
Speaker 1: the start of the season. He's really uh, you know,
Speaker 1: three weeks out, he'll start to train, he'll get ready
Speaker 1: for training camp. So Corey Davis, he goes to the
Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans. Quick. We've been talking about the whole time.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be on predictable and a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: So far, Oh absolutely, I mean so far. In the
Speaker 1: top five picks, we have a wide receiver, We've had
Speaker 1: a trade, a big trade. Yeah, a quarterback comes off
Speaker 1: the board, running back off the board. This is what
Speaker 1: we this is what the draft's all about, and we
Speaker 1: don't know what's going to happen here, even in the
Speaker 1: next five picks. And that's why it's fun. It's the
Speaker 1: ultimate reality TV. Yeah, it was. It was really really uh.
Speaker 1: We talked about again, I'm excited that I think there's
Speaker 1: gonna be more to this too. I think that we're
Speaker 1: gonna start getting into somewhere five in. Yeah, we're five in,
Speaker 1: and like, hang on, buckle up. The Jets always entertaining
Speaker 1: to what what they what they do? I think. And
Speaker 1: Mike mcagnany, my buddy from NFL Europe days with the
Speaker 1: London Monarchs, he might needs to have a good draft.
Speaker 1: I mean, oh, there's a lot of guys that need
Speaker 1: to have a good draft. Mike mcagney. You need to
Speaker 1: have a really good draft. You've got to figure out
Speaker 1: things it needs to be done there with the Jets,
Speaker 1: is there a team in the NFL right now that
Speaker 1: has like less cause for optimism than the New York Jets? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would, I think. I mean that's a good point.
Speaker 1: I think the Browns are going to come out of
Speaker 1: this draft with a quarterback, so Ill I said, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think the Browns have a more reason to be
Speaker 1: excited about the future than the Jets right now. And
Speaker 1: it's all about the quarterback. Yeah, who's there. Josh McCown's
Speaker 1: going to be their opening day, opening week starter. And
Speaker 1: then what are you getting from Hackenburgh who you had
Speaker 1: in the second round last year. Who who's he throwing too?
Speaker 1: Who's running behind him? No more Brandon Marshall. The offensive
Speaker 1: lines a mess like literally, I mean, great, you got
Speaker 1: you got some talent on defense, I guess, but that's
Speaker 1: not gonna win you Tom Brady's division and they have
Speaker 1: to build. And that's why I think the Jets are.
Speaker 1: I think they're content taking this year off. I mean,
Speaker 1: they they know they're gonna be bad, and so that's
Speaker 1: why I'm I don't think this will be a quarterback
Speaker 1: you know, Deshaun Watson or Mahomes. But is here against
Speaker 1: my thought that Mike needs to have a good You
Speaker 1: think Mike's okay there? I think he is okay because
Speaker 1: what I mean, he's not going there's a team that's
Speaker 1: it's yeah, exactly, you're not going to make The Jets
Speaker 1: are not making the playoffs next year, Okay, if I'm wrong,
Speaker 1: I think the Jets are a favorite to be picking
Speaker 1: first exactly, and I think they're okay with that. I
Speaker 1: think they are ready, as you know, Woody Johnson, the owner,
Speaker 1: you know, I think and it's not just Mike mccagnet's fault.
Speaker 1: I mean, look at the roster. He inherited. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been a mess. Mike wants to do this the
Speaker 1: right way, and that means building around big time players.
Speaker 1: And here at number six, there are some big time
Speaker 1: players available. Yeah about the three secondary players, right, Lattimore, Hooker,
Speaker 1: and Adams which I'm surprised Adams is not was not
Speaker 1: a top five player. Uh well, let's go. Let's go
Speaker 1: through the needs for the New York Jets. You know,
Speaker 1: once again, they were twenty seventh pass offense, twelve running
Speaker 1: the foot, twelfth running the football, seventeenth defending the pass,
Speaker 1: and eleven defending the run. So needs quarterback, which you
Speaker 1: don't think that they'll go that direction. Cornerback we talked
Speaker 1: about that already. With the potential of Lattimore right there,
Speaker 1: Lattimore is still there. Here comes to safety. Free safety,
Speaker 1: strong safety for the Jets could be a possible that
Speaker 1: sets up nice for him with the safeties on the board,
Speaker 1: Wide receiver and center would be the would be the
Speaker 1: other needs for the New York Jets. I feel like,
Speaker 1: I mean, and that makes me feel like the next
Speaker 1: pick is a kid from Ohio State. That would be
Speaker 1: my guess, one or the other. You got Lattimore there.
Speaker 1: You got hooker there, which would you like better? Real
Speaker 1: quick tweet right now from Ian Rappaport. Okay, Cleveland is
Speaker 1: trying to trade for Kirk Cousins. This is real. Okay, Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch you. Okay, yeah, Rapports now talking. He's
Speaker 1: got it up there. Cleveland Browns attempting to trade for
Speaker 1: Redskins for Kirk Cousins. Okay, there's Mike m Folks can't
Speaker 1: see it because we're doing but Mike mcagnan, he looks
Speaker 1: very comfortable. He's talking to Todd Bulls right there, and
Speaker 1: now he's talking to whoever he's selected. He's got near
Speaker 1: two minutes on the clocks. That looks like they're gonna
Speaker 1: hand this pick in. And okay, let's talk about that.
Speaker 1: If if Garoppolo, Cleveland tried with Garoppolo, Am I correct?
Speaker 1: And they couldn't get it pulled off of the twelfth
Speaker 1: if you're the Washington Redskins, that would give you no quarterback,
Speaker 1: but you would be in a situation where you'd have
Speaker 1: the twelfth pick and the seventeenth pick. I think they
Speaker 1: might wait until the twelfth pick to do the trade
Speaker 1: to see what quarterback is at twelve if a Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson or Pat Mahomes, if the quarterback they want is
Speaker 1: there at twelve, then maybe they do make the move
Speaker 1: in that way they can draft the quarterback. Just as
Speaker 1: an aside. This is a fantastic example of why you
Speaker 1: have to cover every single base in draft prep because,
Speaker 1: I mean, Washing, if this is going to happen, Washington
Speaker 1: has to have a good grasp on what quarterback they
Speaker 1: would like between between Adams and Lattimore. If you had
Speaker 1: to go with the Jets, can you give me one
Speaker 1: between between Adams and Lattimore? Any corners the bigger need
Speaker 1: and they have a strong safety and Alvin Pryor first
Speaker 1: round a couple of years ago, But that should not
Speaker 1: stop you from drafting Jamal Adams. I think corners the
Speaker 1: bigger need, but Adams is the better player. So which
Speaker 1: structure did they go with? Maybe the bigger need here,
Speaker 1: it's still a good player or maybe the better player.
Speaker 1: I would also argue that even if Adams is better
Speaker 1: than Lattimore, a cornerback is the more important positions between
Speaker 1: the two. But I mean, you can't go wrong with
Speaker 1: either one. Yeah, yeah, they signed Mo Claiborn. We remember
Speaker 1: that we've all. I mean, if they think that Moe
Speaker 1: was gonna be healthy, I mean how many. Yeah, it's right,
Speaker 1: Clay Clayboard is far from a reliable being a quarterback.
Speaker 1: One forty games out of eight. Yeah, they just this
Speaker 1: team didn't have much depth. But you know, if you
Speaker 1: think about what they've got it safety too. Also. You
Speaker 1: said it Calvin Pryor you know, uh, Marcus Gilcrest. I
Speaker 1: mean those guys might Gilcrest might get cut. So I
Speaker 1: mean to me, things sound more dire it's safety than
Speaker 1: they do at corner Well, and I think it's just Look,
Speaker 1: we've been talking about the Jets, how they need to
Speaker 1: turn things around. You talk about the person that Jamal
Speaker 1: Adams is, you know, the presence that he brings not
Speaker 1: only to the field, but to the locker room, and
Speaker 1: go to the commission now here we go, Commissioner. With
Speaker 1: the sixth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the
Speaker 1: New York Jets select Jamal Adams. Oh there you go.
Speaker 1: Defensive fact, I'll take two LSU guys in the top ten.
Speaker 1: How about that Joe Tigers. It was reported that the
Speaker 1: Jets told Jamal Adams when he was in there for
Speaker 1: a visit. We don't know why you're here. You're a
Speaker 1: top five pick. You're not gonna get to us. Well
Speaker 1: he did, and behold, there you go. Happy to snatch
Speaker 1: him up and listen again. We can make the argument
Speaker 1: all day about the bigger need and what the person
Speaker 1: that they're getting here. It's similar to the forty nine ers, right,
Speaker 1: they just need the right kind the talented players, of course,
Speaker 1: but the right kind of guys. And not that the
Speaker 1: Ohio State guys aren't. But you know what Jamal Adams is.
Speaker 1: I've said this before. I've interviewed thousands of players over
Speaker 1: the last decade prospects. Two of the best interviews I've
Speaker 1: ever done, Two of the top ten probably are in
Speaker 1: this draft, and one of them's Jamal Adams. So impressive.
Speaker 1: Good for him. He's going to going to the Jets.
Speaker 1: You know, he bet his father that he would be
Speaker 1: drafted higher. His father's drafted nineteenth. Yeah he won, and yeah,
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams won that bit. I don't know if y'all
Speaker 1: saw this during the pre draft coverage, but they had
Speaker 1: our guy at orgeron on and he was talking to
Speaker 1: It took a little bit, but he had this great
Speaker 1: story about how Jamal Adams won them the Citrus Bowl
Speaker 1: against Louisville and the high trophy winner, like he's he
Speaker 1: won it before the game even happened, just because like
Speaker 1: he had everybody locked in, he kept the guys from
Speaker 1: breaking their curfew, like everybody was kind of feeding off
Speaker 1: of his business like approach. And that's Uh. Somebody told
Speaker 1: me recently, somebody that I know in the program was
Speaker 1: mentioned to me that, you know, Leonard Fournette gets all
Speaker 1: the attention, but that locker room belongs to Jamal Adams.
Speaker 1: And I think that's you know, that's just as big
Speaker 1: a reason why you draft aft him as how good
Speaker 1: he is on the field. Well, Jamal Adams the Hebrown
Speaker 1: High School, local kids. So nice six picks three, Yeah,
Speaker 1: nice to get bad, nice to get him, uh to
Speaker 1: the Jets and uh. And I think you guys are
Speaker 1: absolutely right about the character stuff, you know, And I
Speaker 1: only remember when we were bad and Darren Woodson, you know,
Speaker 1: it was a safety for US Pro Bowl safety, a
Speaker 1: Super Bowl winner when things were bad. That's when Woody
Speaker 1: was at his absolute best. And you know it'll be
Speaker 1: tough for uh, It'll be tough for Jamal Adams, who'll
Speaker 1: get everybody's respect though he will by his play. They'll
Speaker 1: respect him in that locker and on. I mean a
Speaker 1: team like that with that many problems, I don't think
Speaker 1: it'll take him long to establish No, not at all. Okay, So,
Speaker 1: how many LSU players have been drafted? How many Alabama
Speaker 1: players have been drafted? Yeah, I'll get ready that run.
Speaker 1: I figured, I'm not I'm not poking the bear. I
Speaker 1: like it. Yeah, but I'd rather got a savor it
Speaker 1: now because I'd rather have more points on the scoreboard
Speaker 1: in November than maybe. Maybe that's why I think you
Speaker 1: can get Maybe i'd always switch coaches there at LSU.
Speaker 1: All right, I promised I'm not gonna get this wrong.
Speaker 1: But the LA Chargers are on the clock here with
Speaker 1: the seventh overall pick. If you look at the Chargers,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. Looking at our ticker, it says LAC.
Speaker 1: I thought it was LA Clippers for a second. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Los Angeles Chargers. Right, they're gonna play in the stub
Speaker 1: Hub Center front of thirty five thousand fans exactly, So
Speaker 1: here we go. Uh, the Chargers needs cornerback Dane Boy.
Speaker 1: We're right on that we got an Ohio State kids
Speaker 1: sitting right there waiting for him. They're sitting there. Maybe
Speaker 1: maybe get the best corner of the draft. Cornerback, free safety,
Speaker 1: strong safety, offensive tackle, guard, defensive end, and wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Maybe I'm wrong, but two players really stick out here.
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen go defensive line back to back years. You
Speaker 1: have Boasta last year, add Allen to that mix. Who's
Speaker 1: gonna do defensive later? Gus Bradley right put Jonathan Allen
Speaker 1: as a three technique in their new scheme for the Chargers.
Speaker 1: I love the fit. I think that'd be a home run.
Speaker 1: But Malie Cooker, it gives you, you know, the they
Speaker 1: were missing Eric Weddell last year. Yeah, and that was
Speaker 1: a big presence in their secondary. That that was just
Speaker 1: it was clear how much they missed him. Give him
Speaker 1: Alie Cooker and then you have that safety that can
Speaker 1: be that ballhawk and bring something extra to the Charger secondary.
Speaker 1: Well they like I say, the Chargers clearly their offense
Speaker 1: pass offense was eighth in the league. Their run offense
Speaker 1: was twenty sixth, pass defense was twentieth and run defense ten.
Speaker 1: So numbers not terrible interest on defense. Interesting tweet from
Speaker 1: Adam Schefter who just said it looks like an early
Speaker 1: wide receiver run. Which is he referring to Corey Davis,
Speaker 1: Which that's not a run. No, No, that's not a run.
Speaker 1: That's not a run. If it could be a run,
Speaker 1: if there would be, that's one player, one player. So
Speaker 1: what's he trying to tell me? Well, I'll tell you what. Chargers. Yes,
Speaker 1: they have Keenan Allen, but he hasn't been able to
Speaker 1: stay healthy healthy. They need that. Yeah, that's a team
Speaker 1: that really really lacks speed. Who's your quarterback? Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know it's Philip Rivers and Rios. How many years does
Speaker 1: he have left you? I mean this is this is
Speaker 1: kind of an all in chips in the middle of
Speaker 1: the table and the general manager he's on a short lease.
Speaker 1: Oh sure he needs to win now, yeah, Tom talesco Yeah,
Speaker 1: or he's going to be gone. I mean they this
Speaker 1: is a situation where maybe you do try to win
Speaker 1: now and new head coach though figure, well yeah, but
Speaker 1: you figure we're just gonna outscore you. But do you
Speaker 1: think speed? Do we think that you think size? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I mean if this is a receiver, I don't know
Speaker 1: how they pass on Lattimore I mean, I mean, I really,
Speaker 1: I mean, I kind of like Dane's idea with Alan
Speaker 1: to be on. If I'm making the pick, that's the
Speaker 1: card I'm turning in. I think, well, the thing about
Speaker 1: Ell if you think about Varette and Hayward or solid,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about that. Yeah, But do they do
Speaker 1: they really need a third third corner? Is that the
Speaker 1: most importan think? Or do you turn around and say,
Speaker 1: you know they need upgrades at the free and strong
Speaker 1: and that's where Hooker. If you feel good about your
Speaker 1: two corners, why would you not take Hooker here? That's
Speaker 1: that's MALIEK. Cooker to me, would be the pick. If
Speaker 1: I'm the general manager for the Chargers, I'm taking Millie Cooker,
Speaker 1: the number two player on my board. The way he
Speaker 1: can impact a game. Absolutely, I think he could really
Speaker 1: help that the secondary and he helps out everyone on
Speaker 1: your on your defense. So, and what I mentioned about
Speaker 1: Eric Weddle no longer being there, the presence at safety
Speaker 1: that they've been missing, Millie Cooker can be that guy.
Speaker 1: And just like Corey Davis, who we have not seen,
Speaker 1: Mallie Cooker, we have not seen him this pre draft process.
Speaker 1: But that would not scare me at all the medicals
Speaker 1: have come back clean. I mean, take the best player
Speaker 1: to me, that's Hooker. So what was what was Schefter's tweet?
Speaker 1: He said, it looks like there's an early run on
Speaker 1: wide receivers, which could he be could he be saying that?
Speaker 1: All right? Who's all right? Now? Dan talked about this
Speaker 1: on Our Needs. Dane talked about this one Keenan Allen
Speaker 1: not staying healthy though it is Schefter foreshadowing something. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like me. But Speed is his wife,
Speaker 1: William Speed. There's somebody like that. I mean, he's the
Speaker 1: next best. He's the next best receiver on the board.
Speaker 1: Didn't he about that other guy John Ross? John Ross?
Speaker 1: But what but what Mike Williams is he brings a
Speaker 1: lot that's similar to Keenan Allen. Size. Not not a burner, yeah,
Speaker 1: but size you kind of you give him a chance
Speaker 1: and he's going to come down with it. He was
Speaker 1: good though in that I ain't Championship game. He'd be
Speaker 1: the I ain't the perfect wide out for Philip Rivers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's that's a guy where you don't always
Speaker 1: need separation. He's going to he's going to force feed
Speaker 1: it to you. Okay, the picks in, but if it
Speaker 1: was if you're going, I mean it could go corner
Speaker 1: handicap him, corner strong or corner safety or wide receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean picks in. Let's go the commission, he'll tell
Speaker 1: us and the two seventeen the NFL Draft, the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers select Mike Williams Cleson. Don't doubt chefter, Chef
Speaker 1: Chefter knew what he was doing. That knows. That's that
Speaker 1: if I would have told you that we'd have two
Speaker 1: receivers off the board before we have two running backs,
Speaker 1: I'm to see. That's something that we were talking about
Speaker 1: in the pre show. What about the wide receivers? Remember
Speaker 1: we were thinking could the wide receivers be the one
Speaker 1: that slide down the board and drive players to you?
Speaker 1: So and hey here, and you know, I'm not trying
Speaker 1: to like poke at Dane because I think it's a
Speaker 1: sound it's a sound point. But you know, you're saying
Speaker 1: Tennessee doesn't need to get their playmaker at five, Well
Speaker 1: maybe they did, because yeah they're they're going. And I
Speaker 1: mean maybe Oj Howard hangs around or John Ross, but
Speaker 1: you know, might as well if you really love Corey Davis,
Speaker 1: you might as well get him at five instead of
Speaker 1: hoping he waits waits around for thirteen more. Dan, give
Speaker 1: me a thumbnail on Mike Williams. He's not a burner
Speaker 1: like we we've talked about. He's he's a four or
Speaker 1: five athlete. He's not to create his own separation. But
Speaker 1: what he does do is he creates separation in the air,
Speaker 1: you know, with his ability to that expand his catch radius,
Speaker 1: pluck the ball high point. Uh. It's just it's tough
Speaker 1: for defensive backs to cover that because you just and
Speaker 1: he bailed out to Shaun Watson on a number of throws.
Speaker 1: When you watch him on tape, I mean, he's just
Speaker 1: he is a matchup nightmare for most corners, especially under
Speaker 1: six foot. Uh. We're watching him right now. Just the
Speaker 1: back shoulder throws. It looks like a j Green out
Speaker 1: there with the back shoulder. A great feel for that route.
Speaker 1: A lot to like about this player. I'm still very
Speaker 1: surprised to see him go here at seven. I didn't
Speaker 1: I did not see did you see that coming? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it didn't feel like that. He was a polished route runner.
Speaker 1: You know, that's something you talk about the big body
Speaker 1: guy in those rout I mean, but you see him
Speaker 1: go get that football. I mean, that's that's something that
Speaker 1: you know. He will do slants and ends and things.
Speaker 1: I mean, he will go and get it and he
Speaker 1: will make some incredible catches. I mean he will make
Speaker 1: some highlight catches. Absolutely so. Uh So Mike w Ms,
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Clemson. Uh he's heading to Los
Speaker 1: Angeles and the Chargers, and like Dane says, he likes
Speaker 1: to fit with Philip Rivers. They that might be uh
Speaker 1: the early I guess we're looking at early offensive Rookie
Speaker 1: of the Year candidates. You got foreign Nett and Jacksonville
Speaker 1: who they're going to give him the rock. You look
Speaker 1: at the situation with the Chargers and Philip Rivers. Who
Speaker 1: wants to win right now? You know? So, I think
Speaker 1: Mike Williams is going to see a lot of targets.
Speaker 1: And then of course you have Corey Davis with Marcus Mariotta,
Speaker 1: who there's no one on that wide receiver depth chart
Speaker 1: keeping Corey Davis from starting. I mean, I think we
Speaker 1: have three legitimate offensive Rookie of the Year candidates very early. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and how far away are we from a fourth O. J. Howard.
Speaker 1: I'm thinking Christian mccaffine. Oh yeah, right here at eight.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well here and here's Carolina. Yeah, here's Carolina.
Speaker 1: And they're now on the absolutely they're on the clock,
Speaker 1: which keep drafting those offensive players infl Yeah you Carolina,
Speaker 1: let's see. I'm I'm kind of trying to pay attention here. Okay, Carolina,
Speaker 1: it looks like they're on the clock right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: picks in. All right, you brought it up, Dave, go
Speaker 1: for it. Talk about Christian McCaffrey. I'm well, it was
Speaker 1: Fournette for the longest time, and then over the last
Speaker 1: three weeks we heard how much the Panthers love Christian McCaffrey.
Speaker 1: Cam Newton needs weapons. I feel like Cam Newton hasn't
Speaker 1: had good weapons around him his entire career. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's making do with Ted Ginn. Jonathan Stewart's fine, He's
Speaker 1: not anything. He's not a game breaking back. You got,
Speaker 1: you had Brandon LaFell for a while, they tried Devin Funcius,
Speaker 1: you still have Calvin Benjamin. I guess there's that, but
Speaker 1: I mean, think of all, especially with a running threat
Speaker 1: quarterback like Cam Newton, I mean, think of all the
Speaker 1: stuff Christian McAffrey could do for you both as a
Speaker 1: running back and as a receiver. He'd be the best
Speaker 1: route runner on that team from day one. If and
Speaker 1: I don't know, but if he is the pick to Carolina,
Speaker 1: I make he's my favorite for Rookie of the Year. Well,
Speaker 1: let's go with the Carolina's needs. Though we talk about
Speaker 1: offensive tackle, guard, running back, was daye second need right there?
Speaker 1: Defensive end, wide receiver and free safety. Heck, if you
Speaker 1: if you draft Christian McCaffrey, maybe you have two needs
Speaker 1: right there. You take care of a running back and
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. That's it. The way he can stress
Speaker 1: a defense coming out of the backfield. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think he's the best route runner on that roster
Speaker 1: from day one. It'd be a smart pick. It helps everybody, helps,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton helps, you know, the run game, helps the
Speaker 1: receiving game. Jonathan Stewart average under four yards per carry
Speaker 1: last year, had only one game of one hundred yards rushing.
Speaker 1: Let's see if it's a pick. As we go to
Speaker 1: the podium, Yeah, the commissioners making his way to the
Speaker 1: podium and he is bringing a guest with it. Thomas Davis.
Speaker 1: Thomas Davis. Tomorrow night, we will be joined by Walter
Speaker 1: Payton NFL Man of the Year award winners from around
Speaker 1: the league. We salute these players for their excellence in
Speaker 1: community service as well as on the football field. More
Speaker 1: than being great players, they are great men and represent
Speaker 1: all that is great about the NF fell tonight to
Speaker 1: make the Panthers selection. We are honored to have with
Speaker 1: us the twenty fourteen Walter Payton NFL Man of the
Speaker 1: Year Thomas status are y'all do him? It's extremely an
Speaker 1: honor to be here and represent that Walter Payton NFL
Speaker 1: Man of the Year. Cannot think the NFL the nation
Speaker 1: wide enough for allowing me to do this tonight. And
Speaker 1: with that said, with the eighth pick in the two
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen NFL Draft that Carolina Panthers have selected
Speaker 1: Kristin mccaffre, here we go. I think, to me, besides
Speaker 1: the Miles Garrett at one, I think this was kind
Speaker 1: of the next pick that I felt most comfortable, you know,
Speaker 1: a couple hours ago, because not only does it fit
Speaker 1: a need, I think it's we're talking, you know, best
Speaker 1: player at this point. The way he can impact that offense.
Speaker 1: It's it's something where if I'm picking in that, if
Speaker 1: I'm another team in that division, I don't like to
Speaker 1: see that. Yeah, we were worried about Christian McCaffrey potentially
Speaker 1: ending up in the NFC East, you know, at Philly
Speaker 1: and so uh, it's it's nice to see him. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's incredible. His tape is so much fun to watch.
Speaker 1: And you know he's a tough guy. They handed the
Speaker 1: ball inside, he takes you know, David Shaw, that's what
Speaker 1: they do at Stanford. They're not afraid, you know, they
Speaker 1: They've got a tough outfit. He's part of that toughness.
Speaker 1: There's so many things you can do with him, Like
Speaker 1: Dan and David both have said so. And you know,
Speaker 1: Cam Newton has to be elated. To have a weapon
Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey in a matchup nightmare for teams in
Speaker 1: that NFC South to have to deal with. And this
Speaker 1: is uh, it's it's kind of a kin to the
Speaker 1: Cowboys when you think about it. The Panthers are not
Speaker 1: a bad enough team that they should be picking in
Speaker 1: the top ten. There was a Super Bowl team. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying though, But they have the number
Speaker 1: eight overall pick. So you add a dynamic playmaker to
Speaker 1: what to a roster that was good enough to get
Speaker 1: to a super Bowl two years ago. I think that
Speaker 1: should go a long way in helping them rectify how
Speaker 1: disappointing last season. There's no question about it. Okay, that
Speaker 1: means that the Cincinnati Bengals are on the clock. It's amazing.
Speaker 1: And we've seen this offensive run. Oh you like that?
Speaker 1: I mean, and we could see another one here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean O. J. Howard could be the pick here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if I could go down through that. The needs on
Speaker 1: the Bengals defensive end, offensive line, uh, and we saw
Speaker 1: that last year when Dallas played us they and they
Speaker 1: let not Yeah that was back during the season. Since then,
Speaker 1: they lost Andrew Whitworth and Kevin Zeitler exactly, so they
Speaker 1: they've gotten worse. So offensive line, I mean all the positions,
Speaker 1: but there is there is there an offensive lineman you
Speaker 1: take it. Oh no, I'm just not. I need to
Speaker 1: get there here. But the running back possibly there, linebacker
Speaker 1: and wide receiver are the thoughts there for the Cincinnati Bengals.
Speaker 1: If he if he had got if he had fallen there,
Speaker 1: I have it on very good authority that Leonard Fournette
Speaker 1: would have been the pick there. Yeah, I believe he was.
Speaker 1: I was told the same. Yeah, I think. Uh. Well,
Speaker 1: and we saw Jonathan Allen out here too. Yeah. Man,
Speaker 1: they're they're good inside though already. Well yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: that's three technique death. Yeah, but we don't know how
Speaker 1: teams are filling about those shoulders. Yeah, Jonathan Allen, you
Speaker 1: said that, You've said that could be an issue here.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm looking at three players, and if it's
Speaker 1: not to say san Jonathan all I'm looking at three
Speaker 1: players here. O. J Howard. I think John Ross is
Speaker 1: a play Yeah, I think John Ross isn't play him.
Speaker 1: Then we have Derek Barnett, Ash Rusher. Did we mention
Speaker 1: a big You mentioned the big donut for Alabama? What
Speaker 1: about about that linebacker? Yeah? About a Foster? Could this?
Speaker 1: You know? Six today we've talked about Cincinnati's a team
Speaker 1: that doesn't care about character. It's true. I told you
Speaker 1: since now you just say, hey, I love Duke Tobin
Speaker 1: and those guys, it's Incinnati. I do well, yeah, because
Speaker 1: I do don't care about character, though, I care about
Speaker 1: good football players. But this is a team that very well,
Speaker 1: could take Foster. They could you know, we've talked about
Speaker 1: this team could use an inside linebacker. You know, they
Speaker 1: they signed Kevin Mentor for a one year deal, so
Speaker 1: you know Cincinnati by the way, they're gonna take the
Speaker 1: full time here, Cincinnati. That wouldn't They're not waiting on
Speaker 1: anybody here. That wouldn't surprise me. But I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: you look around and did you expect Lattimore to be
Speaker 1: here at nine, did you? Well, this is what you
Speaker 1: gotta think about, too, Barnett, this is what you got
Speaker 1: to think about if you're if you gotta, if you
Speaker 1: remember this, The Cincinnati Bengals were founded by Paul Brown,
Speaker 1: who coached at Ohio State. They tend to lean towards
Speaker 1: those big ten kind of guys. So its Ohio State.
Speaker 1: You know, their dad was a coach there. You gotta
Speaker 1: if they're Ohio State guys on the board, and and
Speaker 1: there are two of them, there's two of them on
Speaker 1: the board, you know, and both of them are sitting there.
Speaker 1: Either one of them would be a pick. It looks
Speaker 1: a good picks or great picks for that matter. And
Speaker 1: would you lean towards the corner of the safety. I
Speaker 1: think I would lean. I think I would lean towards
Speaker 1: the corner right there. I really do, I do, But
Speaker 1: we'll see the pick is in again. We've talked about it.
Speaker 1: What's the situation is pack can they are they counting
Speaker 1: on pac Man? What's his deal? I don't even know
Speaker 1: they're counting on him, but I mean, but it doesn't
Speaker 1: seem like they've always kind of taken care of him.
Speaker 1: They'd like to have him around and what he's uh
Speaker 1: and what he's done. So I don't know. I think
Speaker 1: that we we've just kind of got to think about though,
Speaker 1: the positions. Like I said, we've we've gone through. What
Speaker 1: what do you feel like though? Offensive line wide receiver?
Speaker 1: I mean speed Green, I mean we green. He had
Speaker 1: some of his lowest production last year. Got they got green.
Speaker 1: They drafted the kid out of Peler Boyd, Tyler Boyd,
Speaker 1: and then I think they brought back brianon the Fell,
Speaker 1: which he's not make or break, but yeah's decent enough.
Speaker 1: Fell is basically a placeholder sotill they find their wide
Speaker 1: receiver number two right, so they're looking slot so they
Speaker 1: have no speed though. I'm trying to think of their
Speaker 1: team last year when we were watching them, and I
Speaker 1: don't remember them being really explosive other than I just
Speaker 1: remember Moe and Byron batting balls away from A. J. Green.
Speaker 1: All yeah, well, I mean what I I just what
Speaker 1: I said before. I think O. J. Howard, John Ross
Speaker 1: and there four net three three guys I'm looking at here.
Speaker 1: I mean John Rolls talking about speed. If you're comfortable
Speaker 1: with the medicals, talk about that wide receiver run. That
Speaker 1: schefter was talking about the bad you have your medicals
Speaker 1: in front of you on the on I do well
Speaker 1: talking about what the uh, what's all wrong with Ross?
Speaker 1: Because you brought him up. He's all right on our board,
Speaker 1: he's the on my board, he's the third best receiver.
Speaker 1: I've lost my first two. I've lost Davis and I've
Speaker 1: lost Williams. Now he's my third one. I I think
Speaker 1: because of the medical stuff ACL reconstruction in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: knee ACL NIE scope and a shoulder problem. But like
Speaker 1: as of right now he's fine. Yeah, it's not it's
Speaker 1: not that there's something hindering him right now. It's just
Speaker 1: a lot, it's a laundry list of stuff that's already
Speaker 1: been working. But he also runs four two three right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he does he play that fast? I think he
Speaker 1: looks fast on the tape Polish route runner. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so we could think about this is the defensive ends
Speaker 1: we really you know again, Alan could be a situation here,
Speaker 1: random aside. I like Mayock going with the evil guy
Speaker 1: goatee here, like he's like evil Mike Mayock this year,
Speaker 1: he's it looks like he's already kind of struggled, like
Speaker 1: Danael Jeremiah's challenging him right off the bat, like Bizarro
Speaker 1: Mike Mayo. Here we go, commissioners at the podium. Here,
Speaker 1: we want to try to do something to take care
Speaker 1: Dalton Whitney ninth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft,
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals select John Ross. Oh makes a lot
Speaker 1: of sense. So once we talked it through, No, it
Speaker 1: makes absolute sense. But what have we've been saying the
Speaker 1: whole time about chefs? Is chef on that run a
Speaker 1: wild card? I like how schefter he said he wasn't
Speaker 1: going to tip the picks, but he kind of let everybody.
Speaker 1: He's like, he just wants you to know that he knows,
Speaker 1: he knows. I'd say, if you're the if you're a
Speaker 1: team picking outside the top ten, you're loving this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: these are, oh my gosh, good players following. I mean,
Speaker 1: we have Marshawn Lattimore, Malik Hooker, Jonathan Allen, O J. Howard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're the brown sitting there at twelve. You're gonna get
Speaker 1: one of those guys. Yeah, you're sitting You're the Arizona
Speaker 1: at thirteen. You're gonna get one of those guys, unless
Speaker 1: you want the quarterback. Uh So it's you're you're loving
Speaker 1: all these offensive players coming off the board, unless you
Speaker 1: wanted one of these offensive players. But it's it's fascinating
Speaker 1: the watch. Can I just read this? Oft and I
Speaker 1: and I'm following up your point. I printed out the
Speaker 1: top one hundred prospects according to CBS Sports. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's your ranking purely or if it's like
Speaker 1: a composite. Composite. So these are the these are the
Speaker 1: rankings of the guys that have gone one, two, three, great, nine, eleven, twelve, fourteen, eighteen,
Speaker 1: twenty one. Who's twenty one Ross? Mike Williams. So that's
Speaker 1: what Ed Ross was eighteen. That's what I'm trying to say, though,
Speaker 1: is somebody thought John Ross was better than Jonathan Allen,
Speaker 1: who's ranked fourth, four, five, six, seven, eight. We got
Speaker 1: a tree. Kansa City's coming. Oh a quarterback? Quarterback? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Now which is which one is? Is it Watson or
Speaker 1: what's up Buffalo? Yeah? I knew Buffalo wasn't gonna take
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Casey just went from twenty seven to ten.
Speaker 1: That's the future first round pick? Yeah, yeah, well it's
Speaker 1: Buffalo has been playing the long con all spring. They
Speaker 1: wanted everybody to think they were taking a quarterback, so
Speaker 1: that they would get this opportunity, which I think is awesome.
Speaker 1: By the way, Yanga City is now on the clock,
Speaker 1: So that's this was this was originally Buffalo's pick. This
Speaker 1: would be one ten, this first round, tenth overall pick,
Speaker 1: Kansas City on the clock. We think this move right,
Speaker 1: here's got to be for a quarterball. Shout out, shout
Speaker 1: out to all my long time Draft Show listeners who
Speaker 1: have been with us since last year or beyond. Why
Speaker 1: on earth would Buffalo want a quarterback when they've got
Speaker 1: Cardale Jones. Okay, just in case y' all thought I
Speaker 1: forgot and I saw that, Look you gave me Dane.
Speaker 1: Someone gift that one. Okay, Well, here we go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this one goes, This one goes Kansas City's pick at
Speaker 1: twenty seven. They gave up a third, They give a third,
Speaker 1: and next year's one. Okay, there you go. John Dorsey
Speaker 1: not messing around in case, my old buddy. No, John
Speaker 1: Dorsey is not afraid to make this move. Yeah. If
Speaker 1: you're a confident general manager and a competent head coach,
Speaker 1: you make moves like this. So Kansas City sends their
Speaker 1: third over there, that would be pick you said, third
Speaker 1: round pick? Right? Wait? Can you can you read the
Speaker 1: terms back to me? So Buffalo is now picking teven. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Buffalo is now picking twenty seven. If I'm right about that,
Speaker 1: we have it. I assume they flop there too. So
Speaker 1: the twenty seventh pick, I'll get this straight one day,
Speaker 1: twenty seventh pick now belongs to Buffalo. The tenth overall
Speaker 1: pick now belongs to Kansas City. And then also, you
Speaker 1: said a third round pick, right, Dane third, Yes, so
Speaker 1: that'd be pick ninety one. So three ninety one now
Speaker 1: belongs to Buffalo. There's no way that's all they got though, right,
Speaker 1: And next year's one, next year's one, next years okay,
Speaker 1: so I mean, look, if you're the Chiefs, you think
Speaker 1: you're going to be in the playoffs again, Yeah, so
Speaker 1: potentially a late first rump. I think that the Chiefs
Speaker 1: just gave up less twenty seven to ten than the
Speaker 1: Bears did to go from three to two. I think
Speaker 1: that's what just happened. But do the math if you do.
Speaker 1: I mean that one next year is but what if
Speaker 1: it's twenty seven? What if it's twenty three, If it's
Speaker 1: twenty seven, again, it's only again that's if you if
Speaker 1: they're say they're picking in the same spot, that's six
Speaker 1: eighty right there on the point value? Right, all right?
Speaker 1: Which which do you feel better about? If? I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're the team that traded, what do you feel
Speaker 1: better about having just given up? Oh? If you're getting
Speaker 1: a quarterback in both? It doesn't want to give up
Speaker 1: next year's one. No, I don't either. But again, Dane's right,
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have a playoff caliber roster. Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: mean you can't predict anything. I mean, it's gonna hurt
Speaker 1: if it's a top ten pick. But yeah, I roll that.
Speaker 1: I roll that, dice. I for some reason, I you
Speaker 1: have the biggest problem because of next year's one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know it's like, okay, but seventeen spots verse one.
Speaker 1: That's the other thing, right, absolutely. I mean, you want
Speaker 1: something and it's June, you say it'll be my Christmas gift. Okay,
Speaker 1: summer comes and you don't have anything. I hear. It's
Speaker 1: the worst Christmas ever? Right, I think about this. Now,
Speaker 1: rank these quarterbacks? How do you how do you got them?
Speaker 1: You've got Bisky off the board. Give me Watson and Mahomes. No,
Speaker 1: I know, it just comes down to chiefs and their preference.
Speaker 1: And I don't know. I mean it could be either
Speaker 1: one and would not be surprised. I think Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: would be an ideal fit for Andy reid Nut offense.
Speaker 1: But the Homes, there is so much intrigue, so much
Speaker 1: just teams just they want to work with them, you know,
Speaker 1: they want to work with that talent to see what
Speaker 1: he could be and develop. But man, it's a lot
Speaker 1: to give up for Mahomes. Who is who is a
Speaker 1: big risk? So you're saying you gave it. If it's Mahomes,
Speaker 1: you gave up next year's one. Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: would lean Watson just because I think he's the best
Speaker 1: next best quarterback, and you know, I think you feel
Speaker 1: more comfortable with who he is. But there's a lot
Speaker 1: of chatter about about my homes. Either way, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna be surprised. I'm preparing myself for a world where
Speaker 1: Watson will last longer than two quarterbacks, because that's just
Speaker 1: the stupid way the NFL works. I would take Watson.
Speaker 1: I don't know that I have Watson higher, but think
Speaker 1: about okay, yeah, I mean the things we love about
Speaker 1: Watson been a winner at all levels. We talked about
Speaker 1: him Alabama you know those games, talked about Ohio State
Speaker 1: at those games, talked about winning the ACC a couple
Speaker 1: of times. He's a winner. Yeah, he's a winner, a winner.
Speaker 1: So you know, we'll see he won. I think he
Speaker 1: won state in high school. He lost like one or
Speaker 1: two games his whole high school career. He lost two
Speaker 1: games or maybe three his whole college career. That's what
Speaker 1: he does. Yeah, okay, if if what about Mahomes? Did
Speaker 1: you sat down to watch Mahomes? You know what's funny
Speaker 1: is I was thinking about that the other day, where
Speaker 1: like I think our very first episode of the Draft
Speaker 1: show this year, we kind of went off on about
Speaker 1: Mahomes for like twenty minutes. Yeah, and we were just
Speaker 1: like they had him in his top fifty. He did
Speaker 1: right away, And I remember I'm pointing the finger at
Speaker 1: myself as like, well, how do you even judge this guy?
Speaker 1: What do you do with this guy? Yeah? And I
Speaker 1: honestly I'm stealing this from somebody on Twitter, but somebody
Speaker 1: pointed out Texas Tech lost bad to like Iowa State
Speaker 1: this year. I think, like, yeah, they allowed, like, he's
Speaker 1: got to be the first quarterback to go in the
Speaker 1: top ten if he's the pick who you know, lost
Speaker 1: allowed seventy points and just had this terrible record. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know. I like Mahomes because he's fun
Speaker 1: to watch, Yeah, but I would be terrified to give
Speaker 1: up a future first round pick to go up into
Speaker 1: the top ten to draft him. Yeah. This, this will
Speaker 1: be This will be interesting. What happens with Kansas City.
Speaker 1: Here it comes, the selection is in and the commissioner's
Speaker 1: at the podium. We're the tenth pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft. The Kansas City Chiefs select Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Here you go, how about that Patrick Mahomes? And there's
Speaker 1: Lee Steinberg. I iced to see Lee Steinberg. He had
Speaker 1: Paxton Lynch last year. That's one of the originals right there. Awesome.
Speaker 1: I like, I like this kid a lot, and i've
Speaker 1: kind of I mean, I think he has a similar
Speaker 1: it factor to Deshaun Watson. And maybe I'm biased because
Speaker 1: I've watched so much. Maybe I'm bias because I watched
Speaker 1: so much Dak Prescott over the last year, But I
Speaker 1: love just the intangibles that he brings. He strikes me
Speaker 1: as kind of that leader of men in the locker
Speaker 1: room kind of guy. I definitely don't hate him as
Speaker 1: a prospect, but again, I'm really leary about the thought
Speaker 1: of trading up from twenty seven to ten to get him.
Speaker 1: And we welcome Kevin Turner, Hey buddy from from one
Speaker 1: oh five three to Fan the Ben and Skin Show,
Speaker 1: my scouting buddy who's been on this journey with me
Speaker 1: since December fifth, Katie. This thing has been a little
Speaker 1: fun as to start out, like we knew we didn't
Speaker 1: really have Like when we were talking for a long time, like, hey,
Speaker 1: we've we've got We've got a handle on this. Absolutely
Speaker 1: not Nope, we have no handle on this Wild West
Speaker 1: Shootout I had a feeling it was gonna get crazy.
Speaker 1: I didn't know it's gonna be this crazy. Three wide
Speaker 1: receivers in the top ten and then two huge trades. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's so much fun. Well, it's it's it's it's really
Speaker 1: interesting to see I and I don't know, Katie, if
Speaker 1: we had an idea that all these wide receivers were
Speaker 1: gonna go or we we we talked about in our
Speaker 1: the pre draft show. Where where would the wide receivers go?
Speaker 1: Are they gonna all be pushed down at the end
Speaker 1: of the board. Are they now gonna be uh, you know,
Speaker 1: where are they gonna Where are they all gonna fall?
Speaker 1: But the fact that they they all went, you know,
Speaker 1: very early with roscoing to Cincinnati at nine and Williams,
Speaker 1: you know, to the Chargers, and you know, of course
Speaker 1: then Corey Davis. I think that really started it all
Speaker 1: off there with Tennessee. You know, I saw maybe one
Speaker 1: going in the top ten. You know, if you start
Speaker 1: getting three of them, and this is a fairly deep
Speaker 1: draft at the wide receiver position, you know, so it
Speaker 1: kind of surprised me to see all these guys going
Speaker 1: off the board in the top ten and then right
Speaker 1: here at this I love the pick by Kansas City.
Speaker 1: I mean, I do love moving up and thinking about
Speaker 1: the future. I mean, Andy Reid's gonna have a lot
Speaker 1: of fun with Patrick Mahomes, the quarterback from Texas Tech.
Speaker 1: And I like the trade for Buffalo recouping the pick
Speaker 1: that you lost in the Sammy Watkins trade a couple
Speaker 1: of years back. Love buff Like all year Buffalo has
Speaker 1: been like, we want a quarterback and I was like, no,
Speaker 1: you don't, you freaking liars, And here they are getting
Speaker 1: an extra one and a three out of it. I love.
Speaker 1: I'm a big Tyrod Taylor fan. Obviously, I like Cardel
Speaker 1: Jones too, so I'm pumped for I'm pumped for the Bills. Well,
Speaker 1: let's think about the Saints now at eleven, because if
Speaker 1: you'll get New Orleans at eleven, Eveland at twelve, yeah,
Speaker 1: you want your quarterback there. I mean, if New Orleans
Speaker 1: wants a quarterback that you need to do it down right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that, I'd say, so, I don't know if
Speaker 1: if I'm if I'm New Orleans, yeah, I think you
Speaker 1: have to do it now. And that's something you know,
Speaker 1: and I'm I know Sean Payton very very well. I
Speaker 1: worked with Sean. He was very envious of Scotland and
Speaker 1: in what he was able to do to work with uh,
Speaker 1: you know with uh the quarterback with with here with
Speaker 1: Dak back. Yeah, and I I felt like that Sean.
Speaker 1: Seaun's like, you know, you talk to him and he's like, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: you know it's nice to have a quarterback that doesn't
Speaker 1: always check out of every play. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't want to throw the ball forty times, but
Speaker 1: now here I am. I'm throwing at forty six times.
Speaker 1: So I think he was very very envious of of
Speaker 1: of working with Dak. And so if they in fact
Speaker 1: they go, I mean, let's let's look at the at
Speaker 1: the Saints at their at their needs. We've talked about
Speaker 1: that New Orleans could go like there their first and
Speaker 1: pass offense. They we were talking about getting quarterback first
Speaker 1: and pass offense, sixteenth and run offense. But thirty two
Speaker 1: in pass defense and fourteenth in run defense. I'm just
Speaker 1: you feel like they have to take Lattimore here. I'm well,
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I'm awfully intrigued by the idea
Speaker 1: of them going and get my leak hooker. Well, if
Speaker 1: you think about the defensive end, cornerback, quarterback, strong safety, outside,
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. Okay, so Kansas City jumped in front of
Speaker 1: New Orleans because New Orleans like Pat Mahomes. Let's play
Speaker 1: that game. Yeah, let's play that game. They still want quarterback.
Speaker 1: If you're in Cleveland, your fingers are crossed that Shahn
Speaker 1: Watson doesn't go off the board right here. But with
Speaker 1: New Orleans, did you want that quarterback? Because if you
Speaker 1: wanted that quarterback this year to think about the future
Speaker 1: and get ahead of Drew Brees, you gotta do it now.
Speaker 1: But unless you want to talk about Kaiser later on
Speaker 1: or something like that. Here's the thing, though, is and
Speaker 1: it never works that way. I feel like, you know,
Speaker 1: we're sitting here thinking like, well, you missed out on Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Maybe you get Watson, But did they like Watson that
Speaker 1: much that they're going to take him one pick later?
Speaker 1: I just think the quality of quarterback drops off right here.
Speaker 1: I think there's a huge drop off. Yeah, well, it
Speaker 1: depends on how much you like Peterman, you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean there's some people that probably felt like that
Speaker 1: my Homes Peterman. Maybe let's say let's say that this
Speaker 1: pick is not Watson, and then it's maybe Hooker or Lattimore. Well,
Speaker 1: I like Lattimore here, I'm thinking purely quarterback. If it's
Speaker 1: not Watson, Watson doesn't last to thirty two, I don't
Speaker 1: think no, so then maybe, But if you want to
Speaker 1: get your quarterback at thirty two, if you're the Saints
Speaker 1: with that second pick, does Kaiser last that long? Is
Speaker 1: there a guy that you like there that you can
Speaker 1: get at thirty two and get that option on? I
Speaker 1: don't know, it makes a lot of sense. That's probably
Speaker 1: a game they're playing and why it's taking so much
Speaker 1: time to get the pick in. Yeah, the Saints are
Speaker 1: right at a minute fifteen on the clock. They're they're
Speaker 1: trying to determine they they're there. They have two picks
Speaker 1: in the round. We didn't even we didn't even mention
Speaker 1: the guy. You know, we talk about people talking about
Speaker 1: a guy being locked in in the mock drafts. Derek
Speaker 1: Barnett has been linked with the Saints for a long
Speaker 1: time now and he's still there, So I don't know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that can make sense, But then I wouldn't imagine the
Speaker 1: Saints ever would have guessed Marshawn Lattimore would still be
Speaker 1: there at eleven. He I mean people thinking he's a
Speaker 1: top three pick. Oh, there's no doubt about that. I
Speaker 1: mean this, this might, this might actually played right into
Speaker 1: the Saints hands. You know they clearly could get the
Speaker 1: best cornerback in the draft. I think, yeah, and Marshawn
Speaker 1: Latimore is my best player left on my board at
Speaker 1: this point. Immediate step in and really have an immediate impact.
Speaker 1: I really like Marshall Lattimore. Should that be the pick?
Speaker 1: Why do you like Lattimore? I think Latimore when you
Speaker 1: watch him, and I thought he separated himself from a
Speaker 1: very sure, very good cornerback class. I thought he separated
Speaker 1: himself and the rest of the pack is the clear
Speaker 1: number one. Just the way he moves, the way he
Speaker 1: breaks on the ball. He had four interceptions in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: He turns and runs, it's so easy, it's effortless. The
Speaker 1: way he plays in it. He really is. And he
Speaker 1: was shutting down all the routes. You know, a stop.
Speaker 1: You want to run a stop and go on him,
Speaker 1: You want to try to go deep on him. He's
Speaker 1: very confident. He's a capable tackler. I wouldn't say He's
Speaker 1: a really good tackler, but he just nothing could could
Speaker 1: really shake him. And I think those are the things
Speaker 1: that really made him. You know, my number one cornerback
Speaker 1: in the draft and lot of people's number one cornerback,
Speaker 1: and you watch him work out, he is just so smooth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he is so smooth. Yeah. I just think the Saints
Speaker 1: have got so I understand the quarterback love, but my gosh,
Speaker 1: you were thirty second of past defense. Yeah. Oh and
Speaker 1: their past defense has been a wreck for a while.
Speaker 1: Sure they've been working on that. Yeah, Well, the picks
Speaker 1: in right now. We're waiting for the commission to go
Speaker 1: to the podium. I just think I think you make
Speaker 1: a great point, though, Kat, I really really do. I
Speaker 1: just don't know how if the best cornerback is on
Speaker 1: the board and you're a team that's struggling to stop
Speaker 1: people from throwing the football, you know, this is like
Speaker 1: a gift probably if the attact. But again, we could
Speaker 1: it could be Watson. I was telling you what Sean
Speaker 1: Payton was thinking about, you know, like, I'd love to
Speaker 1: coach a guy like you know, I'd like to I'm
Speaker 1: envious a coach and a guy like Dak Prescott. Maybe
Speaker 1: it's Hooker and you get that. You're thinking I can
Speaker 1: get a cornerback later. But you know, for me, I'm
Speaker 1: just going off my board, my board, my best player remainings.
Speaker 1: Marsh On Lattimore didn't even think he'd get to eleven,
Speaker 1: you know, so n Lattimore can make your defense like
Speaker 1: noticeably better. Talking about Marshawn Lattimore like three eight picks ago. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's Chicago. Okay, commissioner's walking the podium. Here
Speaker 1: we go. We're the eleventh pick in the twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL drafts. The New Orleans select Marshawn Lattimore. Yeah, defensive
Speaker 1: there you go, be smart. Saints Commissioner Goodell just said
Speaker 1: the New Orleans. Yeah, left off the Saints. I left
Speaker 1: off the Saints. But they'll be happy they got Marshawn
Speaker 1: and Lattimore right there, I promise you. Right there, there's
Speaker 1: a team. Six foot one hundred ninety three pounds four
Speaker 1: three six forty that's a good football player. Makes sense.
Speaker 1: And yeah, and you throw it and he played in
Speaker 1: a division where they chuck it every time. You're dealing
Speaker 1: with Carolina with Tampa, you know, you just it just
Speaker 1: makes too much Atlanta. It just makes too much sense
Speaker 1: to have to draft a cornerback then, Yeah, especially the
Speaker 1: best one. And it's one of those things that you
Speaker 1: can easily overthink though, you know, like something I mentioned
Speaker 1: a minute ago, like depth of the cornerback class. Maybe
Speaker 1: I can get a little value here with Millie Cooker
Speaker 1: or you know, yeah, take a chance on someone else.
Speaker 1: You know, I'd really sit there. Take your best player.
Speaker 1: That's how you draft right there, Take the best player
Speaker 1: down the board. And Marshall Laddimer had to have been
Speaker 1: the best player on the board for them because it
Speaker 1: was quite clear. And a quarterback and a quarterback class.
Speaker 1: This is deep when you separate yourselves. That's that's really impressive.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take credit away from Mickey Loomis
Speaker 1: and Sean Payton, but it's easy to go BPA when
Speaker 1: it's a beast of a player that you never thought
Speaker 1: would be there at one of the games. Like foremost important,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, do you think you know
Speaker 1: you're a New Orleans resident? You native? I do not
Speaker 1: live there currently. There's a difference there, but I give
Speaker 1: native native of the great the city. But you think
Speaker 1: everybody's okay with this one. I get. I know, I
Speaker 1: know a lot of people in the media and Saints
Speaker 1: fans who were frothing at the mouth that both Saints
Speaker 1: picks in the first round need to be defense. It's
Speaker 1: a lot. It's a lot like the boys. They need
Speaker 1: pass rush, they need corners, they want them both. I
Speaker 1: heard a lot of people saying, Derek Barnett, I don't
Speaker 1: think anybody in their wildest dreams would have thought the
Speaker 1: best yeah, defensive in that would have made a lot
Speaker 1: of a sense though. Yeah, but I guarantee you that
Speaker 1: this is overwhelmingly being received with favor in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt you can you still a little bit
Speaker 1: of you gotta go. I gotta go back, okay and
Speaker 1: do the other duties. I look forward to working with
Speaker 1: you guys. Uh multitask Yeah tomorrow tomorrow night. We got
Speaker 1: you for the full the full show. Yeah, please come back.
Speaker 1: Can you come back tonight? Come back tonight if you can.
Speaker 1: I'll see what I can do, all right. Something Kevin
Speaker 1: Turner from the Buddy one oh five three, the Fan,
Speaker 1: my scouting buddy, great, great insight there he gave you
Speaker 1: the pick about Lattimore. He told you why he liked Lattimore.
Speaker 1: That made a heck of lost sense. Okay, Cleveland Browns
Speaker 1: are on the clock. They've got almost five minutes before uh,
Speaker 1: they have to hand in that card. I want this
Speaker 1: to be Deshaun Watson so bad you think about it,
Speaker 1: Dane want just to be Malie Hooker. The Browns get
Speaker 1: the number one and two players in my draft board.
Speaker 1: You're gonna rip off your shirt and show us that
Speaker 1: dog pound T shirt you got underneath. I might, I might,
Speaker 1: I don't. Don't look at my socks. Yeah, look, there
Speaker 1: are plenty of options. OJ Howard, you know that's something
Speaker 1: I've mocked frequently to the to the Browns twelve. Uh
Speaker 1: are we giving up on this Kirk Cousins thing. Well yeah,
Speaker 1: it sounds like it because they're on the clock. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well unless it's a less Unless it's like a like
Speaker 1: a you know, wink wink type of thing. You take
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson and then he trade them, you know, or
Speaker 1: whatever it is. But a trade. Cleveland's jumped off the clock. Now, wow,
Speaker 1: this is gonna be the Houston text for Watson right here. Okay,
Speaker 1: Now the Texans have this crap. Yeah, Houston's now okay,
Speaker 1: they just saw what Jack's excuse me, what Kansas City did,
Speaker 1: and they've made an aggressive move uh up the board
Speaker 1: here to Cleveland's spot at twelve. So Houston coming from
Speaker 1: twenty five going to twelve. Uh, they're gonna take this pick,
Speaker 1: uh for from the Cleveland Browns. Is a picked It
Speaker 1: originated in Philadelphia and then went to Cleveland and now
Speaker 1: is in Houston. Tell you what this is, David, make
Speaker 1: sure we get to what the particulars on the trade.
Speaker 1: I'm guessing it's the first round pick next year and
Speaker 1: the Browns, I would guess so the third year next year.
Speaker 1: We pick in twice in the first round. But they
Speaker 1: traded away from some really good players here. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: sure it did. They sure it did. But you know
Speaker 1: what that's Uh maybe maybe this is one of those
Speaker 1: things where you can see overpay, but you don't go
Speaker 1: this high unless you're going for a quarterback. That's the
Speaker 1: number one need on our board. Quarterback, offensive tackle, linebacker, guard,
Speaker 1: and corner corner back. Do you wonder, mister Brugler, mister
Speaker 1: Ohio guy, if at some point the Browns need to
Speaker 1: stop getting cute and just make some picks. And I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm asking genuinely, I'm not trying to be
Speaker 1: a smart ass. I want to well, yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you you are correct, I mean you're not, You're not wrong.
Speaker 1: Put it that way. I'm eager to see what the
Speaker 1: deal is. What do they get? Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: think that that's a factor. Maybe they traded as Wilder
Speaker 1: back to Houston. I mean, it's no, you can have
Speaker 1: him back. We yeah, you're fine. Uh, Houston already they're
Speaker 1: out without next year's two. They traded to Cleveland. So
Speaker 1: are they gonna be without next year's one and two?
Speaker 1: Basically take next year's draft off? Is that how much
Speaker 1: pressure that Rick Smith's feeling a general? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: if you're if you're in Houston, if you're Houston and
Speaker 1: you're feeling like you're gonna get whacked, hey, you go
Speaker 1: ahead and go ahead and give up a next year's one.
Speaker 1: If you're not, if you're if you're not, if you
Speaker 1: don't have to be around to make your work. Okay,
Speaker 1: here's the trade, Houston, Okay, there is. It's just a
Speaker 1: straight and next year's one, next year's one, just a
Speaker 1: straight So to go, up the twenty three to go
Speaker 1: up thirteen spots. They gave up their two thousand and
Speaker 1: eighteen first round, and you know what that is. Cleveland
Speaker 1: now has two first round picks next year. Wherever they're picking,
Speaker 1: say they're picking top ten and eighteen, they're gonna package
Speaker 1: those picks to go to one and get their quarterback
Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, that's what that's what they're gonna do. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So if they're well, I mean, hopefully there's a quarterback
Speaker 1: they like, Hey, Sam Darnold. Yeah, usc that's the other
Speaker 1: And and I'm not I mean, Hugh Jackson knows more
Speaker 1: about the quarterback position than I ever will, but I
Speaker 1: want to see the quarterback that he really loves, because
Speaker 1: these past two drafts he's basically saying, yeah, these guys
Speaker 1: aren't good enough for what we're after. Okay, we think this,
Speaker 1: and I want to I just want to see who
Speaker 1: is who is good enough to be next year Cleveland
Speaker 1: has two ones and three twos. All right. The we're
Speaker 1: looking at the live at the at the UH Texans
Speaker 1: war room right now. They're they're all breathing. That's good,
Speaker 1: But that's not a war room. That's a war and
Speaker 1: that's like, yeah, that's a that's like a class that's
Speaker 1: a college classroom. All right, dank give me. We think
Speaker 1: it's we think it's gonna be Deshaun Watson. Thumbnail it
Speaker 1: for me on Deshaun Watson. Please, we know he's a winner.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we're all he's done since he got
Speaker 1: the clumpson his win what he did this past year
Speaker 1: to beat Alabama in a national title game. And he's
Speaker 1: at his best in the fourth quarter, he's at his
Speaker 1: best in the last two minutes. He makes people around
Speaker 1: him better. The biggest question Kenny consistently win from the pocket,
Speaker 1: and that's something that he'll get better at. He'll develop.
Speaker 1: But for you know, we thought going in the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: we're going to be the storyline. And here here we are.
Speaker 1: We've had three different trades to go get the quarterbacks
Speaker 1: right now and next year's one to get those quarterbacks. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: and so Houston, you know they felt pressured to do
Speaker 1: this wouldn't shock anybody at Deshaun Watson beats out Tom
Speaker 1: Savage to be the starter. It's obviously not the same
Speaker 1: because of the ransom. He's the commission, like the commission
Speaker 1: make the pick twelve pick the two thousand and seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL drafts, the Houston Texans select Deshaun Watson quarterbacks. And
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson there he is not a very long wait
Speaker 1: for him in the green room. But that's three quarterbacks
Speaker 1: off the board now, and some I think that maybe
Speaker 1: you know, Dan, I know you had Trubisky, Watson and Mahomes.
Speaker 1: Was that how you had your quarterbacks ranked? Kaiser was
Speaker 1: number two in number two. I mean, I didn't I
Speaker 1: didn't expect it to go like that. This has gone
Speaker 1: as pretty much like I expected. I thought all three
Speaker 1: would go in the top fifteen. I didn't think they
Speaker 1: had happened like this, Kansas City and Houston making these
Speaker 1: types of deals to move up. But wow, crazy. I
Speaker 1: mean everyone had different opinions on this quarterback class. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all we heard it's a weak quarterback class. It's right, Well,
Speaker 1: some teams just traded future first round picks to go
Speaker 1: up and get quarterbacks. You can tell me all you
Speaker 1: want you think it's a weak class. I mean these
Speaker 1: NFL teams I mean, and I don't think it's a
Speaker 1: Jake Locker, Blank and Gabbert situation. I'm not saying these
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be Pro bowlers, But I don't think
Speaker 1: this is necessarily a time where they're just making clear
Speaker 1: reaches and you're get excited about these quarterbacks and what
Speaker 1: they could develop into. But you know, with Kansas City,
Speaker 1: obviously Mahomes is going to a place where he can
Speaker 1: sit for two years, which is great, and with Watson,
Speaker 1: he can sit for a year if he needs it.
Speaker 1: But he could also beat out Tom Savage. You'd be
Speaker 1: the guy from day one. And the point I was
Speaker 1: going to make before the pick was, obviously it's not
Speaker 1: quite the same because Dak Prescott fell in the Cowboys
Speaker 1: laps right, whereas Houston just paid a ransom to get Watson.
Speaker 1: But he's in just as good of a situation to
Speaker 1: succeed in terms of what's around him. I mean, he
Speaker 1: might not have that all world offensive line, but there
Speaker 1: are pieces. I mean, the Texans got to the playoffs
Speaker 1: by stitching things together with glue and duct tape last year.
Speaker 1: He's got Lamar Miller, he's got an adequate offensive line.
Speaker 1: He's got DeAndre Hopkins already there to help him out.
Speaker 1: He's got Will Fuller, who was their first round pick.
Speaker 1: Lat I mean there are pieces in place for Deshaun
Speaker 1: Watson to succeed if he is good enough to take
Speaker 1: that job. All right, real quickly, if we could, Dane
Speaker 1: Cleveland traded out of the spot they picked up next
Speaker 1: year's one. Is this one of those trades that we
Speaker 1: will look back in Brown's history and regret that they
Speaker 1: had a chance to pick Deshaun Watson and did not
Speaker 1: pick him. I don't know, maybe, but I had had
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson as a late one. Um, you know, I
Speaker 1: worry about him at the next level. Uh, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of that you like about Deshaun Watson. I think
Speaker 1: he can just talk about changing the culture in your
Speaker 1: locker room. I mean, he's the type of leader that
Speaker 1: uh Ford Center war room cam is back on, Yes,
Speaker 1: sit back on if you want to see. Yeah. Oh
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're Arizona, what are you thinking
Speaker 1: right now? I think all along you were thinking one
Speaker 1: of those quarterbacks get to you, and now all three
Speaker 1: are gone by that thirteenth pick. Now we got to
Speaker 1: watch for Deshaun Kaiser Arizona in the second round, or
Speaker 1: maybe they trade up into the first to get their quarterback.
Speaker 1: And this is you know, we we we talk about
Speaker 1: before this, before they started, these three quarterbacks were gonna
Speaker 1: come off the board. None, We're gonna be available at eight, right.
Speaker 1: But the Arizona Cardinals, they're sitting here, they want their
Speaker 1: quarterback in the future. They think it's Deshaun Watson or
Speaker 1: I'm shooting Deshaun Kaiser. Do you know. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're gonna take them here, but maybe we know they're
Speaker 1: picking in the second round. Maybe they make a desperate
Speaker 1: move to get up into the late first to get
Speaker 1: that quarterback. Maybe they trade up to twenty eight. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what you're hoping. If you're the Cowboys right there,
Speaker 1: I mean, that's gonna bruce Arians. That would be the call. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would be something that you know, if you think
Speaker 1: about the Arizona cards saying thumbs up, Yeah, Cardinals call me,
Speaker 1: let's go waving. If folks in the now, don't lie, Brian,
Speaker 1: he's thumbs and up, he's thumbs up. In the trade,
Speaker 1: they're gonna shaking hands with folks. So yeah, they're shaking
Speaker 1: hands about the trade they're gonna do to get us
Speaker 1: some more picks. Yeah, I'm kidding everyone, absolutely, but yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a the the Arizona Cardinals needs corner back, quarterback,
Speaker 1: wide receiver, strong safety, and inside linebacker. Real quick, Brian,
Speaker 1: just to real quick, sorry to pull us out of
Speaker 1: this real quickly, and just take a look at the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Actually a fun dominal point you've probably maybe you've seen
Speaker 1: Cowboys blogger Rabble Rousers phenomenal point by him that we
Speaker 1: are up to the thirteenth pick in the draft and
Speaker 1: not a single Cowboys thirty visit has gone off the board.
Speaker 1: How many offensive players have we had so far? Is it? Eight? One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, Yes, eight,
Speaker 1: eight and four, eight and four? Wow? Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: mean the sport's fall in the right way for twenty
Speaker 1: seven or twenty eight of the Cowboys thirty we're defensive players,
Speaker 1: if you'll remember so, I'm I mean right, we're not
Speaker 1: even halfway to the Cowboys pick, but starting to feel
Speaker 1: pretty good that somebody they like is going to be
Speaker 1: sitting there. Yeah. The Arizona Cardinals, as we said, they
Speaker 1: are on the clock right at three minutes and thirty seconds.
Speaker 1: We talked about with you, I mean the cornerback situation there,
Speaker 1: you know, depending on which way they might go to,
Speaker 1: you know, quarterback clearly that's been wiped out for what
Speaker 1: we think, you know, unless they take it, unless they
Speaker 1: shock us and take uh Kaiser or Peterman or one
Speaker 1: of those guys. You know, they might just say, you
Speaker 1: know what, we believe in one of those guys more.
Speaker 1: But you know, the wide receiver group, at least the
Speaker 1: first round ones that we have are wiped out. The
Speaker 1: safeties are left. Hooker still left, but more free than
Speaker 1: strong is Alan Howard Hooker Barnett. Yeah, how can they?
Speaker 1: You know, Dan, you're right about the shoulders. You're right
Speaker 1: about the shoulders and Alan. That has to be the case.
Speaker 1: There might be a team that's okay with it. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the Redskins sitting there at seventeen. They might
Speaker 1: be okay with it. You never know. It's just it's
Speaker 1: from team to team. Arizona lost a pretty damn good
Speaker 1: safety and Tony Jefferson over the spring, Yeah did Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean maybe they try to replace that. Swearinger two
Speaker 1: is also gone from him as well, so you know
Speaker 1: that's yeah, that bethroom Brand. I mean, they've got guys that,
Speaker 1: but they do they have enough. It looks like the
Speaker 1: clock has stopped and let's see, you know, Arizona. The
Speaker 1: Arizona one of those teams that's uh, always seems so speed,
Speaker 1: you know, Arizona to me when you look at their defense,
Speaker 1: and it's a team that the Cowboys have to play
Speaker 1: next year and you'll see them actually in the Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame game and then you'll see them, uh during
Speaker 1: the season. But when you think about the Cardinals, you
Speaker 1: always think about speed, and you always think about speed
Speaker 1: on defense, you know, and that's something with the you know,
Speaker 1: with the corner wiped out. I mean, they've always watching
Speaker 1: their tape. They always got guys that can run. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got those guys. Well. That's and a big time
Speaker 1: pre draft favor to the Cardinals was John Ross because
Speaker 1: of how right which and so not only did you
Speaker 1: lose your most you know, prize quarterbacks, but the receiver
Speaker 1: they might have liked the most is off the board too.
Speaker 1: I'm really interested in this pick because this is a
Speaker 1: team with a small window here. Yeah, I mean, who's
Speaker 1: going to help them win right now? I Mean I
Speaker 1: think that's what they have to look at. You don't
Speaker 1: want to necessarily look at that for your first round pick,
Speaker 1: and you want the best player for the next five years.
Speaker 1: But at the same time, Okay, well who is that player? Then?
Speaker 1: Who is that player? Dane? Yeah? Could it be one
Speaker 1: of the line a linebacker. Could it be you know,
Speaker 1: Malie Cooker. Uh, you know, there's there's plenty of talent here.
Speaker 1: You talked about Foster. I mean, do you get your
Speaker 1: first round grade on Reddick? Absolutely? I think Reddick got
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, in my five bold predictions whatever I said,
Speaker 1: Reddick would be the first linebacker drafted. I think that
Speaker 1: he'd be could be a great pick here. Yeah. See
Speaker 1: that's what I mean. I always think. I always think
Speaker 1: of Arizona. I think as speed. Yeah, I think of
Speaker 1: a defense that can run on Redick? Yeah best? Yeah
Speaker 1: see and Reddick. I I just was looking at my
Speaker 1: board here and I'm thinking, who on that board can run? Now?
Speaker 1: Foster makes sense. Foster makes sense because we talk about
Speaker 1: the inside linebacker. But you know, Reddick, what is he?
Speaker 1: Reddick can play any position? Yeah, any linebacker position you want.
Speaker 1: You could rush him too. This is this is the
Speaker 1: place for him too. And turn just like I talk
Speaker 1: about like, oh, I don't trust you forgot about him Reddick.
Speaker 1: I mean, and not in the grand scheme of things,
Speaker 1: but I just I haven't what's the first time we've
Speaker 1: said that name tonight, basically is what I'm saying. Yeah, Um,
Speaker 1: I just was thinking to speed. But I'm just thinking.
Speaker 1: You know, we I always talk about, you know, the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: they're not creative enough to use these type of like
Speaker 1: hybrid players. Well, the Cardinals figured out how to use
Speaker 1: Tyron Matthew, you know what I mean. Yeah, I would
Speaker 1: be fascinated to see what they could do with a
Speaker 1: guy like this who can kind of be a jack
Speaker 1: of all trades. Yeah, they are Steve Kim, their GM,
Speaker 1: and they're showing their war room right now. And I
Speaker 1: have a lot of respect for Steve Kim, and I'll
Speaker 1: tell you I have a lot of respect for their
Speaker 1: head coach. Either head coach takes the players, and I
Speaker 1: think he's a really good job with those guys. I
Speaker 1: think you'll see a pretty oppressive team when we h
Speaker 1: we ventured in the Desert this year. I think you, hey,
Speaker 1: don't forget the Hall of Fame game. Yeah, absolutely, I
Speaker 1: think you need to get a kangle hat like Bruce
Speaker 1: arians Yeah, get through. I get the BB's is way
Speaker 1: too cool for me. No, no, no, in a good way.
Speaker 1: I don't mean that. I mean that in a positive way.
Speaker 1: I don't mean that could pull off the kangle. It's
Speaker 1: all about knowing you he's he's really really good. Okay.
Speaker 1: So you know, we think that they could go several
Speaker 1: different ways here. We like the fact that they maybe
Speaker 1: could go Foster Reddick, those kinds of guys. Alan is
Speaker 1: still on the board. We talked about him. Hooker's still
Speaker 1: on the board right there. Barnett's still on the board.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the podium in the commission, will tell
Speaker 1: us pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Arizona
Speaker 1: Cardinals select has Reddick. Here you go, love it. One
Speaker 1: of my favorite players in this draft. Yeah, as they
Speaker 1: as they say, man, you watch him on tape. Heck,
Speaker 1: that guy's a blur. Seriously, they got that. He's got
Speaker 1: that burgundy and maroon whatever it is he's wearing for Temple,
Speaker 1: and you watch him run from the back side and
Speaker 1: he is smoking. So once again, here the here are
Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals adding a piece to their defense. Didn't help.
Speaker 1: Didn't help the quarterback that's old, didn't help the receiver
Speaker 1: that's old. It helps that defense though, but it helps
Speaker 1: that defense. It does it sure does help that defense.
Speaker 1: Hassan Reddick can play inside, can play outside, he can cover,
Speaker 1: he can blitz, play sideline, the sideline. It's pretty it's
Speaker 1: easier to talk about what he can't do. And you know,
Speaker 1: on the football field, there's just not a lot of
Speaker 1: things he can't do. It's really impressive player. And hey,
Speaker 1: this is it's a great story. He wasn't even listed
Speaker 1: on the scouting sheets going into this year. I mean,
Speaker 1: he wasn't on the radar, had the great senior year,
Speaker 1: goes to the Senior Bowl, proves that he can stand
Speaker 1: up and play an off ball linebacker position, cover running
Speaker 1: backs out of the backfield, cover the tight end, and
Speaker 1: then at the combine continues that momentum with great testing numbers.
Speaker 1: He's had such a great ascension. I really fell in
Speaker 1: love with this kid when I started watching him in
Speaker 1: the fall. One of my favorite players this year. It's
Speaker 1: a home run pick for the Cardinals. Yeah, he's uh,
Speaker 1: I do, I'd like to pick two. I'm a big fan.
Speaker 1: I understand Foster in that situation. I mean I could
Speaker 1: see why teams maybe are are are turning away from him.
Speaker 1: But Reddick, you know, if you're looking for a linebacker,
Speaker 1: to me, this guy never comes off the field. He is.
Speaker 1: He is one of those guys that you know, you
Speaker 1: you say, go get the ball. He is going to
Speaker 1: get the football. What would you have done with him here?
Speaker 1: And we've talked about this before, but I just want
Speaker 1: to rehash it. I think I think that he would
Speaker 1: have I definitely would have tried to play him and
Speaker 1: I had him as listed as an outside linebacker. He
Speaker 1: would have been your Sam. And he wouldn't have taken
Speaker 1: him off they and you wouldn't have taken him off
Speaker 1: the field. You just rushed him. You'd put him his
Speaker 1: hand down in nickel and let him rush. How weird
Speaker 1: would that be to see a team that uses three
Speaker 1: linebackers in nickel on a regular basis. You don't see
Speaker 1: that that often. You really really dope, But he is.
Speaker 1: He is. He is super, super, super impressive. And uh,
Speaker 1: you know I I also a great character guy. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean just flawless off the field. Uh. I mean
Speaker 1: he did have one in it, but he was acquitted. Yeah.
Speaker 1: But everything you hear from the coaches, from people around
Speaker 1: him is how great of a guy he is. It's
Speaker 1: just relentless, and remember he's a former walk on. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is a guy who is self made. I mean
Speaker 1: he went to Temple and you know he wasn't that
Speaker 1: five star guy who was handed everything. He worked as
Speaker 1: a way up from a walk on defensive back turned
Speaker 1: himself into a pretty good edge rusher. Now he's going
Speaker 1: to be and now he is a top thirteen pick
Speaker 1: in the NFL, going to an organization that's going to
Speaker 1: be fighting for the playoffs this year. Yeah, absolutely so,
Speaker 1: Hassan Riddick. And that's going back to the point we
Speaker 1: made about the Panthers. Same thing works for them. The
Speaker 1: Cardinals are probably picking higher than they should be based
Speaker 1: on their roster. Yeah, so I mean this can only
Speaker 1: help them. Okay, the Philadelphia Eagles are on the clock.
Speaker 1: That means it pick fourteen. We're halfway to the Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys picking at twenty eight. And wow, has it been
Speaker 1: a fun ride here for fourteen picks. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: the Eagles dand you kind of had a bunch of
Speaker 1: different things going on for them. Yeah, you know, I
Speaker 1: thought McCaffrey was the perfect fit, but of course, you
Speaker 1: know that became evident pretty quickly. He was not going
Speaker 1: to be available before them at fourteen. You know, you
Speaker 1: could look at wide receiver. They signed alsh On Jeffrey
Speaker 1: to a one year deal, that Tory Smith deal basically
Speaker 1: a one year deal, but wide receivers are gone, so
Speaker 1: it doesn't look like they're gonna go in that direction.
Speaker 1: Do they look at defense? Corners? Easily the top need
Speaker 1: on this team easily? But is there a corner that
Speaker 1: they want? I've mocked Marylin Humphrey. Here the corner from Alabama.
Speaker 1: I thought this is this is where Gary un Conley
Speaker 1: was going to be drafted in my opinion, Yes, but
Speaker 1: that's not an option anymore. So Merlin Humphrey, could he
Speaker 1: be the corner that the Eagles, you know, their plan
Speaker 1: B because they need a corner in the worst way.
Speaker 1: Then it's so badly that they might have to reach
Speaker 1: for one here. So it just depends on what their
Speaker 1: corner stack looks like. Yeah, well, you're absolutely right corner
Speaker 1: being the number one need wide receiver. You're right on
Speaker 1: all Sean Jeffrey and Tory Smith just short deal's defensive end,
Speaker 1: running back, and defensive tackle. And they're still they're still
Speaker 1: running a four to three now right? Yeah? Oh no,
Speaker 1: look out you see, well you get to know, could
Speaker 1: you see could you see? How about how about Alan
Speaker 1: ending up there? Yeah? And movings, Beny Logan, Yeah, you'll
Speaker 1: Spendy Logan. But that's I mean, you'd have to be
Speaker 1: Fletcher Cox. Yeah, I mean about a pass rusher. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Vinny Curry. He's just he's not a starting
Speaker 1: caliber player at least one that's going to scare you.
Speaker 1: They've got Brandon Graham on one side. They lost Conor Barwin.
Speaker 1: Uh you know what about Charles Harris or Derek Barnett here? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that to me, this this is where I
Speaker 1: kind of thought that Derek Barnett it was gonna be
Speaker 1: in the middle of the round. Yeah, where I thought
Speaker 1: that Derek. Remember we were talking about, okay, we would
Speaker 1: trade up to the twenties yesterday in our mock if
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett was there and we just and Dane you
Speaker 1: said it, we can't get there. He's gone. So this
Speaker 1: is kind of where the place I felt like that
Speaker 1: that Derek Barnett might somewhere between fourteen and eighteen. So
Speaker 1: let's see. In fact, that's definitely though the Eagles could
Speaker 1: use a defensive end that we listed as their third
Speaker 1: and you, I mean, I need Dan mentioned this as
Speaker 1: good as as good as we feel about the cornerback
Speaker 1: class as a whole. You take Conley out of the equation.
Speaker 1: I don't know that you want to take Kevin King
Speaker 1: or Trey White this highly. You know, it doesn't seem
Speaker 1: very well, It's just palatable to me. I just feel like, though,
Speaker 1: if you look at their defense, you know, I who
Speaker 1: else you're somebody you talk about Barnett? Who else are
Speaker 1: you talking about? Well, I mean mentioned pass rush. Pass rush. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if it's not corner, which we thought Gary on Conley
Speaker 1: would right here, then let's look at corner all right,
Speaker 1: look at the pass rush and Derek Barnett's still here.
Speaker 1: He's a player we thought could go top ten, if
Speaker 1: not top ten, Right, I have to wait too much longer.
Speaker 1: They need an upgrade over Vinny Curry on one side,
Speaker 1: Brandon Graham's not getting any younger. On the other side,
Speaker 1: upgrade that pass rush, build from the bottom in the trenches.
Speaker 1: I think the pass rush makes sense. Okay, well that
Speaker 1: looks like that. The picks in and here's the commissioner
Speaker 1: with a group of folks. Of course, Philly has some.
Speaker 1: I mean it's in their city. I guess this makes sense.
Speaker 1: Bump pup a bump, puppa, bump puppa bum, very good bum.
Speaker 1: Joining us for the Eagles selection are members of the
Speaker 1: Martin Luther King High School football team from here in Philadelphia. Go.
Speaker 1: Look a group of guys. Hellish Union has got some
Speaker 1: of these kids. He emerged four years ago with rival
Speaker 1: Germantown High School that has become one of the top
Speaker 1: programs in the area. Coached on Congratulations to you and
Speaker 1: your team. One of these guys is going to be
Speaker 1: drafted in five or six years and they're going to
Speaker 1: do a feature on this. Okay. With the fourteenth pick
Speaker 1: in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft, the Philadelphia Eagles select
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett. Here you go, Dave Bertie, My shot makes sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about Derek Barnett. He wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: have to wait long to hear his name gets out
Speaker 1: of the top ten. At this point, this is who
Speaker 1: you know. The Eagles need either a corner or a
Speaker 1: pass rush. They go with the pass rush might have
Speaker 1: been their best player on the board right now, depending
Speaker 1: on what kind of grade they gave to Malie Cooker
Speaker 1: or Jonathan Allen and Barnett double digit sacks each of
Speaker 1: the last three years. Yeah, broke Reggie White's Tennessee record.
Speaker 1: And did Reggie White not make his bones in Philly?
Speaker 1: There you go? They sure did? He sure did so. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a nice pick. We we thought all along that,
Speaker 1: you know, Derek Barnett, there was a lot of talk
Speaker 1: that maybe that he were to get to twenty eight,
Speaker 1: and he did not make it to twenty eight. Instead,
Speaker 1: he is a Philadelphia Eagle at fourteen. So twice a
Speaker 1: year the Dallas Cowboys will have to deal with Derek Barnett.
Speaker 1: And uh, you said that with kind of like a
Speaker 1: hint of resignation in your voice. Well, I think he's
Speaker 1: a good pass rusher. I really do. I like him.
Speaker 1: I like the bend. I think he can capture the edge.
Speaker 1: You know, he's uh, he's one of those guys you
Speaker 1: have good get off. Oh he has some good get
Speaker 1: off too. Surely he surely does. So Philadelphiagles with a
Speaker 1: nice pick there at the fourteenth. Overall, in my life
Speaker 1: would have dreamed that Malie Hooker would still be on
Speaker 1: the board. It's what if Malik Hooker makes it to
Speaker 1: twenty eight. What do I even saying that? Why are
Speaker 1: you even saying that? Yeah? But I mean everything we've
Speaker 1: heard is the medicals came back clean. Yeah, no, the medicals.
Speaker 1: There's no problems on the medicals. No problems that that
Speaker 1: actually was told by a couple of different UH training
Speaker 1: staffs that the hamstring stuff is overblown. That's an overblown situation.
Speaker 1: And I don't want to speculate without too much information,
Speaker 1: but is this maybe related to the Conley situation? I mean,
Speaker 1: there there's blowback that maybe he was there that night.
Speaker 1: I really don't know. I mean, I don't know enough
Speaker 1: about the situation. I don't if you're talking about an accessory,
Speaker 1: I mean, he hasn't been named in anything. No, No,
Speaker 1: he hasn't. It's yeah, yeah, you're right, it's total total
Speaker 1: really speculation on that right there. But you know, Okay,
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. If if he gets if
Speaker 1: he gets to if he gets to Denver at twenty,
Speaker 1: anybody making a call, anybody interested in going? Yeah, anybody
Speaker 1: going interested? And we talked about Tampa Bay being a
Speaker 1: team at nineteen, that they are, that they are, that
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay is a team at nineteen that was interested
Speaker 1: in bailing out of their pick. Oh, let's say the
Speaker 1: Colts are in and they're like, oh my god, Hooker's
Speaker 1: still there. Yeah. Yeah. To follow up on that point, though,
Speaker 1: I would do that deal for a pass rusher again,
Speaker 1: if you don't have it's quarterback and the guy who
Speaker 1: can get to the quarterback. Right. I don't know if
Speaker 1: I get rid of a top one hundred pick for
Speaker 1: a safety, yeah, I don't know. I don't like it. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the Colts pulled up Brian broad Us and they were
Speaker 1: on the clock, and they went quick, who's the new
Speaker 1: guy up there? U? Who's my guy, the guy that
Speaker 1: came from Petty City, your buddy Dane, Chris Ballard. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Chris Ballard. Chris Ballard, he knows players. He's not waiting around.
Speaker 1: Heck no, he knows what he's doing up there. Do
Speaker 1: you think he's taking Hooker here? Best player on the board?
Speaker 1: I easy by a long shot. So to me, it
Speaker 1: makes absolute sense. Colts need difference makers on defense. Millie
Speaker 1: Cooker is a great place to start, and for Chris
Speaker 1: Ballard kind of kicking off his new regime in Indianapolis,
Speaker 1: you gotta love it. I don't think they ever thought
Speaker 1: Mallie Cooker would be available here. But you know, we
Speaker 1: also talk about Jonathan Allen's still here. You know, some
Speaker 1: of these players that we thought would might go top ten,
Speaker 1: top twelve are here. So they've got some options. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ruben Foster is still available. They could use a lineback, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they sure could. If you look at their look at
Speaker 1: their situation. Corner, defensive end, outside linebacker, a right guard,
Speaker 1: right tackle, running back, and an inside linebacker. So if
Speaker 1: they take Hooker, they're just taking the player on their board,
Speaker 1: right if you, if you, if you think about their
Speaker 1: team needs. So again, the picks in for the Colts.
Speaker 1: We're just waiting for them to officially announce it. But
Speaker 1: the once they once they got on the clock, there
Speaker 1: was really not a lot of hesitation right there, buy
Speaker 1: them to get that done well or or to hand
Speaker 1: that card in. Keep talking about Malie Cooker, I mean
Speaker 1: it's just again, he was a number two player on
Speaker 1: my board, number two. I think he can be a
Speaker 1: game changer, a guy that can take over a game.
Speaker 1: And you know, usually you don't count on your defense
Speaker 1: to get you points. This guy can with his ability
Speaker 1: to create turnovers and make plays. So if I think
Speaker 1: you're absolutely right, Chris Ballard, once he saw the pick
Speaker 1: at number fourteen, put the card or name on the
Speaker 1: card running up there. I don't care how much time
Speaker 1: we have left. Yeah, we're not trading out of them
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah. Again, he pulled one of my tricks.
Speaker 1: You know what, I know what player I want sent
Speaker 1: you with a dog flipping over the fence. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: if you give me that when i'm I'm the dog
Speaker 1: flipping over the fence. Yeah, without a doubt. I mean this.
Speaker 1: You know, this guy is ah, this guy's the best
Speaker 1: best free safety in the draft. And and Dane's right
Speaker 1: when you start talking about the things that he could
Speaker 1: do playing out of the middle of that field. It's
Speaker 1: a Stephen Holder who covers the cults up in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: Is he's calling it for MALIEK. Cooker on Twitter and
Speaker 1: he says he'd be He's saying, I spent no time
Speaker 1: thinking about this as a pick because it seems so
Speaker 1: improbable at the start of the night. Yeah, well that's
Speaker 1: that's one. I don't think many people had Malik Hooker
Speaker 1: mocked to Indianapolis. I really really don't. So Yeah, this,
Speaker 1: this seems like what you talk about, a no brainer pick,
Speaker 1: even though we talked about all the various needs that
Speaker 1: they might have. Well, that's and you know that's investigate
Speaker 1: and educate, right, that's right. I mean, something's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: That's gonna change your perspective. You're not something. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna expect everything you got. You do your best. But
Speaker 1: a guy that you never anticipated false to you of fifteen?
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do? Yeah, well here we
Speaker 1: you know, again, the picks in and we'll see if
Speaker 1: in fact it's Millie Koker. But no one else does
Speaker 1: anything else for you? Though Foster we talked about Foster
Speaker 1: a Allen. Yeah, but no, I mean the runners. I
Speaker 1: mean the runners are on the board. He's still got
Speaker 1: cook on the board. You know that's a team that
Speaker 1: could use a running Yeah, you're right to me, I
Speaker 1: would have drafted Millie Cooker a long time ago. And
Speaker 1: so I mean, I knowing Chris ballor like I do,
Speaker 1: I think he is looking to take the best player available.
Speaker 1: He's looking for an impact player on defense. And again
Speaker 1: he's this is his first draft pick ever as a
Speaker 1: general manager. Yeah, ever, And so you know you want
Speaker 1: to make have a home run hit here, best player available.
Speaker 1: That's what Chris Ballor believes in. Yeah, so I think
Speaker 1: Millie Cooker here makes a lot of sense. And unless
Speaker 1: there's something we don't know about why he's fallen this
Speaker 1: far to this point, it makes too much sense not
Speaker 1: to happen. Yeah, Chris Ballard, though, worked with John Dorsey,
Speaker 1: and here's the commissioner walking to the podium. But they're
Speaker 1: both sliding a little bit. Yep, it's a commission. With
Speaker 1: the fifteenth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL drafts, the
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colts select Malik Hooker. There you go, defensive back
Speaker 1: Ohio State. Yeah, best best guy on the board right there.
Speaker 1: That's pretty simple. Look at Millie Cooker. I get it.
Speaker 1: He was a one year starter, redshirt sophomore, came out early.
Speaker 1: But man, that one year, those fourteen games the tape
Speaker 1: as impressive. His range in the back half of the field,
Speaker 1: his instincts, the ball skills, way he can create. Give
Speaker 1: me Millie Cooker on my team all day long. I
Speaker 1: know we hear we throw away around the Ed Reid comparisons,
Speaker 1: which is just it's it's unfair to we're talking about
Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer, one of the best to
Speaker 1: ever do it. So it's unfair to MILLIEK. Cooker to
Speaker 1: put that on him. But you can't help but see
Speaker 1: a little bit of that with the way he plays
Speaker 1: the game, which the way that he sees he sniffs
Speaker 1: out those plays and goes and gets him, and he
Speaker 1: makes him and he finishes. I mean he averaged twenty
Speaker 1: seven yards per interception return on seven picks. That's yeah,
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous, as you don't see that every day. Surprise,
Speaker 1: he's still here. But you wonder if he was fully
Speaker 1: if he didn't have those two surgeries and he had
Speaker 1: the full pre drift process, if he still falls like this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's just he's just just too much ability there. I mean,
Speaker 1: he covers so much ground. Yeah, that's what you need.
Speaker 1: You need those guys, especially the way the teams try
Speaker 1: and stretch you out down the field. You know, you
Speaker 1: better have a guy that could play sideline to sideline
Speaker 1: and and and get through those deep balls and you
Speaker 1: watch him run. He can get there in a hurry.
Speaker 1: It does an outstanding job. Hey, Brian, who are the
Speaker 1: top two guys left on your board? Uh? Well, I've
Speaker 1: got I've got actually got I got. OJ Howard still
Speaker 1: left my board, cook Mix and McDowell, Williams, McKinley, Lawson,
Speaker 1: Alan Foster, and Cunningham. For the purposes of making my point,
Speaker 1: the top two guys left on this sheet are Jonathan
Speaker 1: Allen and O. J. Howard. Yeah, where'd they go to school? Yeay? Alabama?
Speaker 1: Who's picking next? This would be Ozzie Newsome would be
Speaker 1: on the clock. And I got a feeling. I gotta feeling.
Speaker 1: You got a feeling this one? You got a feeling.
Speaker 1: I don't want to pick which one, but I just
Speaker 1: feel like, well, they need offensive line really bad. There's
Speaker 1: an Alabama offensive lineman in this. Yeah, well this sixty.
Speaker 1: If you if you look at if you look at
Speaker 1: their needs there twelfth and pass offense twelfth, Goba be
Speaker 1: twelfth and pass offense twenty eighth and run offense. Uh.
Speaker 1: Pass defense was ninth, run defense was fifth. Run defense
Speaker 1: was really good. I remember that being a storyline heading
Speaker 1: into the Cowboys Ravens game. I mean, Zeke kind of
Speaker 1: ran over him, but he did that to everybody. Could
Speaker 1: we could we see Let's see their needs here, wide receiver,
Speaker 1: defensive end, outside linebacker, right tackle, defensive line and then cornerback.
Speaker 1: Right tackle sticks out like a sore thumb. They lost
Speaker 1: Rick Wagner and they really don't have anyone capable on
Speaker 1: the roster to fill that need. I mean that it
Speaker 1: could this be the first offensive lineman or than Night.
Speaker 1: Is this okay? You got Robinson, who's an Alabama kid?
Speaker 1: So I just just mentioned that. Hi, Yeah, it's first
Speaker 1: offensive tackle off the Board's gonna be Cam Robinson. Well
Speaker 1: it's you know, everybody believes it's gonna be Ram Chick
Speaker 1: and I yeah, and the hips checked out. Fine, it
Speaker 1: has hip checked out? Fine, are going to clear you?
Speaker 1: You sold me that Cam Robinson's not any good, Brian,
Speaker 1: you sold me on that. That's what you told me.
Speaker 1: I don't disagree. I mean, it's a player that ends
Speaker 1: up on the ground too much. The balance issues, I guess,
Speaker 1: I guess the point I was trying to. I mean,
Speaker 1: are we just like with Malee Hooker, are we at
Speaker 1: a situation where the Ravens never could have dreamed that
Speaker 1: either Alan or Howard would be there? I mean we're
Speaker 1: talking about both of them being top ten picks. I mean,
Speaker 1: Max Williams from Minnesota. The tight end a couple years
Speaker 1: ago is not panned out. Uh, the b YU tight end, Pitta,
Speaker 1: he's still there, always hurt exactly. So I mean Howard's
Speaker 1: in play here. And really this is kind of what
Speaker 1: I saw his floor. I didn't go Ja Howard would
Speaker 1: get past twelve in Cleveland, but they traded out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he could have gone. I thought you'd go ten to Buffalo.
Speaker 1: They trade it out. Okay, Well, Baltimore hasn't fallen their
Speaker 1: lap the heck of a pick. I mean I would
Speaker 1: and not. Yeah, I know they have Max Williams. I
Speaker 1: don't care. I mean, get your right. So yeah, I
Speaker 1: think O. J. Howard should be in play here as
Speaker 1: well as the first offensive lineman. I went with Forest
Speaker 1: Lamp in my in my in my mock. I was
Speaker 1: told they really liked him. I don't know these offensive
Speaker 1: line there's it's kind of like the quarterbacks. You ask
Speaker 1: different teams, you get different opinions about who's the top one.
Speaker 1: You know how early they should go. And I will
Speaker 1: say this is simplifying it a little bit, but I
Speaker 1: feel a lot better drafting one of these guys if
Speaker 1: I'm asking him to play right tackle at least right away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I I'm of the opinion
Speaker 1: left and right tackles interchangeable, or at least they should be. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you get rushers from both then right. Yeah. So, but
Speaker 1: I I get what you're saying. I worried just because like,
Speaker 1: none of these tackles I've ever played right tackle, they're
Speaker 1: all left tackles. Sure, what are all the Alabama connections
Speaker 1: still on the board. Well, we got Robinson, O J. Howard,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen, Marlon Humphrey. Ah, I forgot about Humphrey. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm kind of thinking about what are you thinking?
Speaker 1: I'm thinking though, I'm just because Ozzie. Ozzie loves his
Speaker 1: Alabama guys. There's no doubt there's it's gonna be. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be Abama player. It has to be, you think so, No,
Speaker 1: I mean it would just it would be a good storyline. C. J.
Speaker 1: Mosley kind of fell a little bit. Yeah, but he
Speaker 1: would couple two years ago or three, three years ago
Speaker 1: now and Baltimore scooped him up. Sure once again, needs
Speaker 1: I don't feel we don't feel like too early? Is
Speaker 1: it totally? For Godwin from Penn State, he would be
Speaker 1: my next wide receiver that would blow me away. Yeah, okay, Well,
Speaker 1: then to take him out of the mix. Defensive end,
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, who do you like you have? Do you
Speaker 1: have anybody in mind? Pass rusher at this point is tack? Yeah?
Speaker 1: For what I mean? Oh, well, you mentioned Alabama connections.
Speaker 1: We forgot Foster too. Yeah. No, I mean that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah. Well, and then you know you look
Speaker 1: at that, you look at the right tack. We've already
Speaker 1: talked about Cam Robinson, defensive lineman, Alan, We've talked about him, cornerback.
Speaker 1: We talked about the Alabama court. Humphrey, Humphrey. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: do you think about Humphrey. I thought Philly wasn't playing
Speaker 1: at Philly at fourteen because they need a corner really badly.
Speaker 1: He probably becomes the number two corner in this draft
Speaker 1: for a lot of teams after the Conny situation. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we know that the Ravens have a need at corner.
Speaker 1: Yea possible. The Ravens also play in the AFC North.
Speaker 1: Here we go, allady is key, Yeah, here we go.
Speaker 1: Picks in. I'm joined by t j Or Wannabe from Laurel, Maryland,
Speaker 1: who is participating in the Make a Wish program. Right, well,
Speaker 1: you give a kind of true. TJ is fourteen years old.
Speaker 1: He's a cancer survivor. He loves to play football and
Speaker 1: watch his Ravens. Okay, t J, It's time to make
Speaker 1: your dream come true. God. With the sixteenth pick in
Speaker 1: the two thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Baltimore Ravens
Speaker 1: select Marlon Humphrey defensive. There you go, am a connection.
Speaker 1: I had the wrong Bama guy, but I was right
Speaker 1: in the in the thought process, it'd called mister brought us. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's just it's Aussies. That's that's Austy in his Alabama.
Speaker 1: I you know. But I'll tell you what, Dane, You've
Speaker 1: been spot on and your team needs you really really
Speaker 1: have and that that's helped me a lot. Think about
Speaker 1: you know what they what they potentially good to do.
Speaker 1: So thumbnail about Marlon Humphrey. When build a corner, it
Speaker 1: looks something like Marlin Humphrey. He's north of six foot long, arms,
Speaker 1: a four or four athlete. You know his dad as
Speaker 1: a former first round pick, Bobby Humphrey, the running back.
Speaker 1: YE played against him pretty good. Huh yeah, he played
Speaker 1: I watched him play. Yeah, uh, you know, this is
Speaker 1: a player that the physicality is there. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is probably the most aggressive corner in this draft in
Speaker 1: terms of run support. Uh. You know, he enjoys contact,
Speaker 1: which you can't say about most corners. But what he
Speaker 1: really needs to improve on is down the field, turning
Speaker 1: his head, locating, making a play in the ball. It's
Speaker 1: something that burned him quite a bit on several occasions
Speaker 1: when you watch him on film. But similar to say
Speaker 1: Landon Collins. I know it's a different position. It's safety,
Speaker 1: but a player we watched Alabama get burned a little
Speaker 1: bit and needed to get better in coverage. And he
Speaker 1: has Marlin Humphrey only a rechard sophomore, a very young
Speaker 1: player I think will get better in coverage down the
Speaker 1: field and then be can live up to this draft
Speaker 1: spot the number two corner in this draft. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: you know, me personally, I thought Marlon Humphrey might be
Speaker 1: better suited to play strong safety in this league. You know,
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with him. I don't have
Speaker 1: a problem with him starting out with corner, but I
Speaker 1: feel like that maybe his best position down the road
Speaker 1: would be strong safety, where you can let things stay
Speaker 1: in front of him. He could play really deep and
Speaker 1: he could keep things in front. When you watch him
Speaker 1: drive on the football, he's impressive. Oh yeah, he's impressive
Speaker 1: because he will knock you unconscious. And he watched the
Speaker 1: USC tape and he's blowing up guys right and left.
Speaker 1: So I thought, maybe his better position. You talk about
Speaker 1: the turn, find the ball and out of stuff, Maybe
Speaker 1: if you could keep things in front of where he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to turn his back a whole lot to
Speaker 1: the play and he can go do it. Well, let's
Speaker 1: see if if, if that in fact can happens, because yeah,
Speaker 1: could we see a run on now Alabama players now
Speaker 1: well here's here's yeah, yeah, yeah, the rushington here. I
Speaker 1: think they could use both those players Jonathan Allen Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Uh And then I mean, Howard isn't not necessarily a
Speaker 1: need for Washington with Jordan Read But you know, you
Speaker 1: just never know because of the value at this point.
Speaker 1: So I mean we're, well, there's a nightmare of mind
Speaker 1: of this. Jonathan Allen ended up at Washington here real
Speaker 1: real quick. Just uh, circling back to the Cowboys, So
Speaker 1: Humphrey makes two thirty visits that the Cowboys had. That's
Speaker 1: gone now, right, Humphrey and Barnett, Right, okay, Right, So
Speaker 1: you're you're on this about about Jonathan Allen though you
Speaker 1: think this, you think this is a great fit for
Speaker 1: them at the hey, of course it's a great He's
Speaker 1: one of the best three techniques in this draft. Oh yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And it's this has to be a shoulder issue. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't watch Jonathan Allen's tape and tell
Speaker 1: me he is not a top ted pick in this draft.
Speaker 1: You can't do it. Yeah, he absolutely is. So I
Speaker 1: think this is team's just kind of scared off a
Speaker 1: little bit, but at some point and you just have
Speaker 1: to believe that you know, it's worth it, and for
Speaker 1: the for the Redskins here that that's it might be
Speaker 1: worth it. I don't know, only they know what the
Speaker 1: medical information that their trainers gave them what that says.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's it's it's interesting, Miles, Miles Jack.
Speaker 1: We talked about last year how you know, issues down
Speaker 1: the line, and it's kind of similar with Alan where
Speaker 1: teams aren't necessarily worried about right now, it's the shoulder
Speaker 1: and at what point are those shoulders going to be
Speaker 1: an issue, is it? You know? At the combine, Jonathan
Speaker 1: Allen said, it's not something you have to worry about
Speaker 1: until after his playing career is done. Right when he's fifty.
Speaker 1: That's when those arthritic shoulders were going to you know,
Speaker 1: be an issue for him. Maybe some team medical stabs
Speaker 1: had different opinion on that and think, you know what,
Speaker 1: We're not sure he's going to play five years and
Speaker 1: do his rookie deal until with those shoulders giving him
Speaker 1: some issues. So we just don't know at this point. Yeah,
Speaker 1: dave your thoughts on potentially, Nathan all I mean I
Speaker 1: thought he hit him pretty well where I mean just
Speaker 1: as suit right now, think about this pick. What would
Speaker 1: what would he do for Washington? That's what I want
Speaker 1: to know. What do you mean play players there? You'd
Speaker 1: be there? I mean they don't play a four to
Speaker 1: three right? Oh no, I mean, but I mean Alabama
Speaker 1: played a three four. Yeah, it kicked him inside and
Speaker 1: the nickel right yeah, Okay, yeah, that's and that's what
Speaker 1: I'm asking. I'm just curious. I think it'd be a
Speaker 1: perfect fit for him because he can play he can
Speaker 1: play the five technique, he can play inside, can play outside,
Speaker 1: the tackles shoulder. I mean, that's one of the appeals
Speaker 1: to me with Jonathan Allen is not just the power
Speaker 1: and the quickness, but how smart he is, how versatile
Speaker 1: is I mean, he can he can do those different things.
Speaker 1: And for the Redskins again, if they're they're okay with
Speaker 1: the shoulders, gosh, I mean, it's this heck of a
Speaker 1: pick here. Yeah, well it's uh, the Redskins pick is
Speaker 1: in where we'll get it here from the commissioner. Momentarily,
Speaker 1: I I just don't know. Again, I think I think
Speaker 1: you're right about the shoulders day, but I don't see
Speaker 1: it as being something that you know, I didn't get
Speaker 1: the feeling that everybody was, you know, it was like
Speaker 1: to the point where he was going to drop all
Speaker 1: the way down to seventeen know how this team felt
Speaker 1: about his shoulders. Now, I didn't feel like it was
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like it was bad. At what point
Speaker 1: do you start talking about going up to get Jonathan
Speaker 1: Allen if you're this team, if you're yeah, the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Well see that's what I'm saying. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: We were talking about the twenties. I mean, yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean I I don't know. I just don't see how
Speaker 1: Washington passes this guy, though I agree. I mean, I
Speaker 1: like what we were talking about. He plays defensive in
Speaker 1: in the and the scheme of three four scheme in
Speaker 1: Alabama plays the five technique in passing situations. You kick
Speaker 1: him inside, and now he's playing a one gap against
Speaker 1: against guards, right. You know, I'm sez, I I don't
Speaker 1: know how you. I don't know how you sit there
Speaker 1: and uh and pass him if you're the Washington Redskins.
Speaker 1: I really really don't. But that's maybe I'm being cheerleading
Speaker 1: it for my my board. Well, no, I mean I
Speaker 1: haven't talked to anyone who believes Jonathan Allen's not worth
Speaker 1: a top ten pick. Yeah, maybe even a top five pick.
Speaker 1: I mean he's he's that good of a player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but it's just the durability factor and what are the
Speaker 1: concerns there? So what I mentioned earlier about a run
Speaker 1: on Alabama players, it makes a lot of sense here,
Speaker 1: whether it is Foster, I mean, Jonathan Allen, if if
Speaker 1: the medicals are okay, it's a home run pick here
Speaker 1: for Washington. But you know, I don't know it's Washington's
Speaker 1: front office is going through kind of a state of flux.
Speaker 1: You know, we know obviously Scott mcluin is no longer there, right,
Speaker 1: who's making this pick that? Bruce Allen? Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: you know they're a wild card. Yeah, with direction, they
Speaker 1: could go there. I think this is where I think
Speaker 1: this is a head I think the head coach is
Speaker 1: now driving the personnel department there in Washington real quick,
Speaker 1: I really do I think that. I think Bruce Bruce
Speaker 1: is not a capable general manager. He's the president of
Speaker 1: the team. I think it's a guy you want the room,
Speaker 1: shaking hands and patting people on the back. But this this,
Speaker 1: this is clearly going to be Jake Gruden's uh buying
Speaker 1: the groceries here. I just want to shine a light
Speaker 1: on Jason Garrett right now, just chowing down on those
Speaker 1: reading glasses. He's got what's what do you what do
Speaker 1: you think that what's going on in there? Well, Stephen
Speaker 1: and Jerry. I've been watching them. Stephen and Jerry have
Speaker 1: been kind of back and forth, hitting each other in
Speaker 1: the ribs. So maybe they feel like though that their
Speaker 1: guy is going to be there, so maybe and like
Speaker 1: they should feel good about that, Like none of their
Speaker 1: guys have gone yet, but doesn't. It just kind of
Speaker 1: sucks sitting there and like watch, well that's what that's
Speaker 1: what that's here he is, He's just sitting there wat
Speaker 1: Will McClay, Chris Hall, you know, clears with the glasses
Speaker 1: on top of his head. I mean, right now, it's
Speaker 1: getting close to your time. I mean, it's getting close
Speaker 1: to you. Here we go commission with the selection. With
Speaker 1: the seventeenth pick in the two thousand seventeen NFL drafts,
Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins select Jonathan Allen. There you go, Alabama,
Speaker 1: Jonathan Allen, There you go. You think you think the
Speaker 1: Cowboys NFC East rivals are tired of dealing with that
Speaker 1: offensive line, Yeah, because you've got I mean, the Giants
Speaker 1: love to stock their defensive line. Now you got Derek
Speaker 1: Barnett and Philly to go with Fletcher Cox, and you
Speaker 1: got Jonathan Allen and Washington. Now, yeah, that'll be fun.
Speaker 1: Just had my number two and three players on my board,
Speaker 1: go fifteen and seventeen. Wow, I mean that's those are steals,
Speaker 1: absolute steps. It's amazing that he lasted that long. Again,
Speaker 1: I did not hear anything. Maybe after the draft we'll
Speaker 1: start to hear some things about the medical stuff, but
Speaker 1: I did not get the feeling that that was going
Speaker 1: to be a problem. But Jonathan Allen, the very talented
Speaker 1: defensive end tackle Yorcity of Alabama is now Washington Redskins. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's I mean reset the board. A top five players
Speaker 1: on my board right now, Ruben Foster, Ryan Ramcheck tackle
Speaker 1: from Wisconsin, Dalvin Cooke the running back from Florida State,
Speaker 1: OJ Howard tight end from Alabama, and then David the
Speaker 1: Joe Coup the tight end from Miami. So both tight
Speaker 1: ends still out there right. Uh, you know we have
Speaker 1: Tennessee who you know. We talked how they needed that weapon,
Speaker 1: right Marcus Mariota. Well they went and got it at
Speaker 1: the fifth pick. Could they double up maybe give him
Speaker 1: another weapon with these tight ends still available? Well they could,
Speaker 1: but let's let's look at their Let's look at their
Speaker 1: needs as well. Though what you got for Tennessee. We
Speaker 1: talked about some of the issues on defense that they had.
Speaker 1: They need a corner, They need a corner. I mean this,
Speaker 1: you know what corners you got, what corners you like?
Speaker 1: I mean that's their number one need. According to Dave Brugler,
Speaker 1: is is a cornerback. Yeah, which one of these cornerbacks?
Speaker 1: Do you really really like? Sordevius White's my next best corner.
Speaker 1: But this is a little early for him. I know
Speaker 1: they like Hidobio Woozier the Colorado corner. Is that too
Speaker 1: early for him? Yeah? I mean it is, at least
Speaker 1: in our opinion. That doesn't mean it's not too early
Speaker 1: for this team. Uh, because remember that Tennessee does not
Speaker 1: have a second round pick that belongs to Cleveland, so
Speaker 1: they're not going to get a Woozier if they wait
Speaker 1: until the third third round pick. Could they make that
Speaker 1: pick here? Uh? I mean shock a lot of people.
Speaker 1: But you know, if you trust your evaluation and a
Speaker 1: Woozier is really the player you like, go and get them. Well,
Speaker 1: the cornerbacks that I I mean again, it's it's a
Speaker 1: it's a banged up group of you know, like when
Speaker 1: you start talking about some guys not running well, the Tabors,
Speaker 1: Moreau White, Tankers, Lely King, Dory Jackson, Dorry Jackson, that's
Speaker 1: a player we talked about a lot for the Cowboys
Speaker 1: at twenty. Yeah, I think that I think that we
Speaker 1: have to cover just one on the Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: would Center war room. But yeah, there they go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they must be uh Jerry's on the phone. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: Jerry's on the phone, uh hanging out here. So uh
Speaker 1: they're they're working that phone. Let's see if in fact
Speaker 1: that they got anything uh anything going uh with uh
Speaker 1: with the this trade possibilities or you know, like I say,
Speaker 1: people calling uh that they've they've moved the camera around
Speaker 1: to where we cannot see what's going on there at all.
Speaker 1: So that going back to what you mentioned about the needs.
Speaker 1: What do I have as a number one need for
Speaker 1: the Titans cornerback? And this is we talked about, you know,
Speaker 1: the corners after Lattimore goes then you know Connley was
Speaker 1: going to be the next guy, but he's off the
Speaker 1: board obviously, right, And then we have we have Marlon Humphrey, right,
Speaker 1: Dory Jackson, Treddavious White, players that we thought might be
Speaker 1: there at twenty eight. This is where we're gonna If
Speaker 1: you're a Cowboys fan, you start to think about your
Speaker 1: guys being taken off the board. Yeah, I'm glad you
Speaker 1: said that, Dane, because like just I just walking down
Speaker 1: the halls here for five seconds, You're just like, there's
Speaker 1: this energy because everybody's like, oh, Howard's still there? What
Speaker 1: about what about this guy? Oh my god, blah blah blah.
Speaker 1: I just I love Draft Night. It's my favorite. It's
Speaker 1: the best. Yeah. Well they we'll see what in fact,
Speaker 1: but I think that we look at we look at Tennessee,
Speaker 1: we talk about it again. Their their pick is in.
Speaker 1: I'm with Dane on this though. I think, you know,
Speaker 1: cornerback is uh, that's that's a glaring, glaring problem for them.
Speaker 1: And no, who who is the best corner that any
Speaker 1: And now, like you said, Dane, if you're the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: you're worried about losing the guy. You're worried about losing
Speaker 1: the guy that you're gonna take at twenty eight you
Speaker 1: thought would be there. Well, you're not gonna get all
Speaker 1: the way to twenty eight without losing a few guys
Speaker 1: that are gonna Yeah, but the cornerbacks, you know that's
Speaker 1: what that's the you know, that's the things. Well, hey,
Speaker 1: we've been sitting here this whole time saying, you know,
Speaker 1: maybe all the pass rushers are going to be wiped out.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's the other way around. I mean, there's nobody
Speaker 1: here's a commissioners on the clock, sorry, on the on
Speaker 1: the podium, the Tennessee Titans select, but Dory Jacks. Oh
Speaker 1: you see, we've been talking about how the NFL likes
Speaker 1: a Dori jack and more than we do. Yeah. Uh,
Speaker 1: he's an undersized corner with he needs a lot of
Speaker 1: refinement with his technique. But this is a player who's
Speaker 1: a premier athlete, who can be an impact player as
Speaker 1: a turn man. And you you are very encouraged about
Speaker 1: the corner. He could be down the road right now.
Speaker 1: He's a nickel at best. Uh, and so I think
Speaker 1: you have to treat him as such. But again with
Speaker 1: the upside, and you know you talked about it. You
Speaker 1: know what the defensive coordinator at USC, how he he
Speaker 1: talked about with Jabrill Peppers, talk about with this guy,
Speaker 1: how he stretched so thin, he right in track right,
Speaker 1: he was in the offensive meeting room. The defensive meeting
Speaker 1: room is a special team's room. And you know here
Speaker 1: he goes. So you know this is who Hi, we
Speaker 1: both had. Dorry Jackson mocked to the Cowber. It's not
Speaker 1: going to happen, not because the Cowboys weren't interested, but
Speaker 1: because he's off the board ten picks ahead. I mean,
Speaker 1: and you're right. I've heard that for a while that
Speaker 1: the NFL likes a Dorry Jackson more than the media
Speaker 1: and you know analysts too. But eighteen is I'm legitimately steep.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying it's steep. I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to say that he's not good enough to go eighteen.
Speaker 1: I just I'm legitimately pretty stunned. Like he was a
Speaker 1: guy I would have. I said today that I was
Speaker 1: really confident there'd be a handful of names there at
Speaker 1: twenty eight, and I was. I was pretty damn confident
Speaker 1: he would have been there at twenty eight. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: Dorry Jackson is close meeting with the commissioner right now.
Speaker 1: He's getting his jersey and getting a big hug. Tennessee
Speaker 1: at nineteen. They're not wasting any time their picks in
Speaker 1: two Tampa, Tampa. Oh see, I'm sorry, Tennessee just made
Speaker 1: the pickout Tampa. How about Tennessee. They're not afraid to
Speaker 1: take players ahead of where they should. Absolutely, Corey Davis, Yeah,
Speaker 1: Doory Jackson. They took the best players on their board. Uh.
Speaker 1: But I tell you what if you're Jason Lett in
Speaker 1: Tampa you could use the tight end. Oh, there's no
Speaker 1: doubt you Yeah, you could. Yeah. I think this is
Speaker 1: a perfect spot. If you look at the names that
Speaker 1: are on the board right now are the guys that
Speaker 1: are left. You know, he makes the absolute best sense.
Speaker 1: You talk about the player that people would have to
Speaker 1: deal with, could help the young quarterback. There just there's
Speaker 1: just too many, too many positive things about O. J.
Speaker 1: Howard not to be taken that. Now. This is the
Speaker 1: easy part of the draft for us, right, I mean,
Speaker 1: because it's all of a sudden, it's like, well, heck,
Speaker 1: he's the best player. Well he's the best player. Well
Speaker 1: he's the best player. This is where it's real simple.
Speaker 1: You see these teams handing in the cards real early.
Speaker 1: They see the best players. Look at the highlights they're
Speaker 1: showing a Dorry Jackson right now, all the fall in
Speaker 1: his hand. Yeah, and that's when he has the ball
Speaker 1: in his hands, he can be a game changer. And
Speaker 1: that's why in my report on a Dorry Jackson I
Speaker 1: mentioned that his best NFL fit might be as a
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill type player. I mean, you motioned him out
Speaker 1: of the backfield, you just get the ball in his hands.
Speaker 1: In creative ways what he can do is return man.
Speaker 1: I worry about him as a corner, but he is
Speaker 1: a premier athlete who can be a game changer with
Speaker 1: the ball. You make a good point, Brian, which obviously
Speaker 1: it's it's better to pick at the beginning of the
Speaker 1: round and get the better player. But if there's a
Speaker 1: silver lining of picking twenty eight, you know, the rest
Speaker 1: of the league kind of makes your choice easier for you, hopefully,
Speaker 1: especially if your board doesn't line up with theirs, if
Speaker 1: they look at what I don't think Washington had to
Speaker 1: think that hard, and obviously Tampa didn't have to think
Speaker 1: that hard about what they did either. So hey, get
Speaker 1: the rest of the league to help you out and
Speaker 1: make a decision. And I don't and I don't think
Speaker 1: that really. You know, we talked about Tampa's needs corner,
Speaker 1: free safety, strong safety, running back, linebacker, wide receiver. I
Speaker 1: mean to me, I mean, if you're just if you're
Speaker 1: taking if Jason Lights taking the best player left on
Speaker 1: his board, Yeah, it makes perfect sense to take Oj
Speaker 1: Howard here. That's just a no brainer. I had David
Speaker 1: and the JOKU mocked to Tampa, but never thinking Oj
Speaker 1: Howard be available. So Yeah, it just makes too much sense.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's this is a gift. Give Jamis Winston
Speaker 1: a weapon, uh that he can play right away and
Speaker 1: impact your offense. This is a gift at nineteen. Well
Speaker 1: it's this, Yeah, absolutely, if you just look at the
Speaker 1: best player and we we've I've said that a lot,
Speaker 1: just this Tampa, and Tampa's got a good young team,
Speaker 1: they really really do. And so the opportunity here to
Speaker 1: add a weapon to help. That's a team you have
Speaker 1: to deal with with the wide receivers, and now you
Speaker 1: deal with, say a vertical if if in fact he's
Speaker 1: the pick at nineteen, I mean, that's a that's a
Speaker 1: vertical tight end you have to deal who's not a
Speaker 1: bad blocker. He actually can help him a little bit
Speaker 1: in the running game. Yeah, that's blocking tight end in
Speaker 1: his class, right, Yeah, that makes that makes a whole
Speaker 1: heck of a lot of sense. We're talking about Adam Sheen.
Speaker 1: I meant to say, among the you know, I'm just
Speaker 1: among the top guys. I know you love Shaheen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know that's your boys. Throw his name in the
Speaker 1: first round. Hey, we're not talking about him Thursday night,
Speaker 1: but we'll talk about tomorrow one day when you're a
Speaker 1: GM one, pick Adam one day in the first round.
Speaker 1: We're gonna call him. We're gonna call Dane up one
Speaker 1: day and he's gonna go, who who are you? Who
Speaker 1: are you go? Because Dane's gonna bring me on as
Speaker 1: his writer. It's gonna be great. Oh who are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah exactly, Yeah, it's all right. Well, uh yeah, we're
Speaker 1: we're we're working our way down to to Dallas. Pick
Speaker 1: as you can see a war room cam at the
Speaker 1: Ford excuse me, the Ford cent of war room cam
Speaker 1: is on. Uh. Jerry Jones has left the table and
Speaker 1: he's upset to see a Dory gun. Yeah. I really
Speaker 1: think a Dory would have been the pick at twenty eight.
Speaker 1: I think so. That's I think so too. In my
Speaker 1: heart of hearts, I didn't mock a Dory this morning,
Speaker 1: but in my heart of hearts, I kind of got
Speaker 1: the feeling that he would be the guy, just based
Speaker 1: on who I thought would be there. Well, here they go,
Speaker 1: there there, there. Everybody's kind of smiling, I mean, considering
Speaker 1: they they probably lost a guy that they wanted, but
Speaker 1: there's other others there. Well okay, But and when we
Speaker 1: get down there, like say, we have to figure out here.
Speaker 1: The flip side of that coin is that we're I mean,
Speaker 1: we're still a ways away, but we're coming up on
Speaker 1: pick twenty right, and like one guy that you really
Speaker 1: thought had a real shot to be a cowboy's gone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and a lot can happen between twenty and twenty eight,
Speaker 1: But I feel good about where they are in terms
Speaker 1: of you know, if you've got a short list of
Speaker 1: four or five guys that you really like at that spot,
Speaker 1: you still got most of them there. So it's it's
Speaker 1: definitely not time to press the panic button. No, not yet.
Speaker 1: And as you notice on the war the Fort Center
Speaker 1: war Room Camp, Todd Williams, he's again the contracts football
Speaker 1: ops talking to Steven Jones right there. So folks, evidently
Speaker 1: they're feeling pretty comfortable to chasing Carrott. He reminds me
Speaker 1: so much of his dad. His dad used to sit
Speaker 1: right there and not say a word, watch what was
Speaker 1: going on. Everything around him is kind of going a
Speaker 1: little crazy, but he's his average is the same color
Speaker 1: as yeah, yeah, exactly. He's having a nice iced tea there.
Speaker 1: But anyway, will McClay, Chris Hall, they're all just checking
Speaker 1: it out. Okay, well they're gonna check out here. The
Speaker 1: Tampa based pick at one in the twenty seventeen NFL drafts,
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers select O. J. Howard the Alabama
Speaker 1: I mean that one that was an easy one to forecast.
Speaker 1: It was just the need, the talent and what's available.
Speaker 1: It just matched up perfectly. I mean, you give Jamis
Speaker 1: Winston some help on that offense. Uh at nineteen. I
Speaker 1: just I didn't think he gets this far. But you know,
Speaker 1: good for the Bucks to get him. Oh. Also, he's
Speaker 1: not going to be a New York Giant, which I
Speaker 1: think should relieve Cowboy fans everywhere personally. So you're happy
Speaker 1: about that He's It was kind of like last year,
Speaker 1: you know, back in the early going, when we didn't
Speaker 1: know exactly where Zeke was going. Everybody was saying, Zeke
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, Oh God, we're gonna have to stop
Speaker 1: this guy for the next decade. Well I had visions
Speaker 1: of that with OJ Howard for sure, especially for the
Speaker 1: remainder of Eli Manning's career. So, uh, you know, Cowboys, Yeah,
Speaker 1: go go play in Tampa, OJ Howard, don't play the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Twice a year. I don't. You can ask Jason
Speaker 1: Latte the first words out of his mouth and the
Speaker 1: post draft press conference should be I never thought in
Speaker 1: a million years he would get to us. I really
Speaker 1: think that's that's the truth. But there he was, for
Speaker 1: him and surprised it took him so long to get
Speaker 1: the cardon. Yeah, well really nice job. I mean really
Speaker 1: not a thing that we thought as a team need.
Speaker 1: But just again, you start talking about who's the players
Speaker 1: on the board, you know, I mean that's your who's
Speaker 1: the best players? And so clearly you know Oj Howard
Speaker 1: one of those guys. So congratulations to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers,
Speaker 1: I think, grabbing a hell of a football player. So
Speaker 1: we we now moved to the Denver Broncos or on
Speaker 1: the clock and their pick is in Well, what are
Speaker 1: we talking about all along with Denver? It's gonna be
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, it's gotta be some maybe one of
Speaker 1: the tackles. How many offensive linemen are off the board,
Speaker 1: Well none of them are, So they have the ram Check,
Speaker 1: Robinson and Bowls would be your top guys, right, So
Speaker 1: they have their pick of any offensive linemen in this draft,
Speaker 1: which it works out perfectly for them. They can go
Speaker 1: if they bowls. If that's the tackle they want, they
Speaker 1: want to go ram check. They could go in any
Speaker 1: direction here depends on which tackle they believe is the best.
Speaker 1: I love the way this works out there, Like you know,
Speaker 1: since January, the pick to Denver has been a tackle,
Speaker 1: and I feel very confident it's gonna be a tackle
Speaker 1: right now, which I just it's fun when it works
Speaker 1: out that way. Well, it's just uh yeah, it's uh,
Speaker 1: we'll see. I mean, they are a team that they're
Speaker 1: they've been just dying for offensive linemen, especially tackle. Here
Speaker 1: we go, Commissioners at the podium. In the twenty seventeen
Speaker 1: NFL Draft, the Denver Broncos select Garrett Balls, tackle Utah.
Speaker 1: Somebody wake up the baby, Thank you Rich. There we go.
Speaker 1: He's a great story. I mean he was after high school.
Speaker 1: His dad kicked him out of the house because he's
Speaker 1: such a knucklehead. I mean, this guy he found trouble,
Speaker 1: and trouble found him wherever he went. He was out
Speaker 1: of football for a lot of years. Then he went
Speaker 1: on a church mission, kind of turned his life around.
Speaker 1: Wound up at Snow College, same Juco that star Lotulelee
Speaker 1: was at one point. Yeah, then goes to Utah where
Speaker 1: only one season of Yes football, I love tackle, but
Speaker 1: he is the most most athletic tackle in this draft.
Speaker 1: Does he need power or strength worth? Absolutely? Does he
Speaker 1: need technique work, Yes, but you don't. You can't teach
Speaker 1: that athleticism. He can't coach that up at that size. Now,
Speaker 1: the fact that he's an older player, I gotta love
Speaker 1: that he brought his baby onto the Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty cool. He Uh part of we talked about
Speaker 1: Garrett b is like a lion king moment holding Simba up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talk about Garrett Bulls. You can't help but talk
Speaker 1: about his past issues in the background. But he was
Speaker 1: married about a year ago, I had a child. I
Speaker 1: think he's he's he's older, you know, so I think
Speaker 1: there is You do think he has matured and that
Speaker 1: has played a big part in him coming off the board. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well that's it. You know, you gotta wonder why you
Speaker 1: talk about all the things that uh, you know that
Speaker 1: he's uh, he's had to deal with in his in
Speaker 1: his life. You know, he's very very proud here the baby,
Speaker 1: he's got the jersey, the baby in the Jersey. That's
Speaker 1: gonna be framed. You know. We felt like that. We
Speaker 1: felt like that Denver uh needing to tackle. Come on,
Speaker 1: ram Check on the board, you know, still available, you know,
Speaker 1: and we talked about the medical stuff. I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, these tackles, you got so many different opinions
Speaker 1: with ram Check to Robinson to Bowls. Some really like Bulls.
Speaker 1: There are several teams with ram Check as their top
Speaker 1: offensive tackle on their board. You know it just Denver
Speaker 1: preferred Bulls because at the athleticism. Uh, and you know,
Speaker 1: I get it, but man, he's gonna need a lot
Speaker 1: of work, and he's already he's going to be a
Speaker 1: twenty five year old rookie, right. You just hope that
Speaker 1: the learning curve is not going to be too much
Speaker 1: for him, is it? How Hey hey, all right, so
Speaker 1: we the quarter of light bulb. The light bulb just
Speaker 1: went off. Yeah that tackle. Those tackles are lasting. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's good news for that for the Cowboys, right,
Speaker 1: not only for a trade. But I'm sitting okay, you know,
Speaker 1: just spitballing just based on mock drafts. But okay, the
Speaker 1: Seattle Seahawks or a team that you see linked to
Speaker 1: offensive linemen um also linked to Kevin King. That's a
Speaker 1: really popular pick for them. The longer these guys last,
Speaker 1: the more I mean the New York Giants need an
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Yeah. So again you're talking about pushing defensive
Speaker 1: players down the board. If New York or a Seattle
Speaker 1: decides to go tackle, well, I think there's a good
Speaker 1: chance we see Miami go Forest Lamp, the Giants go
Speaker 1: Ramchecker Robinson, and then Seattle take the tackle that the
Speaker 1: Giants don't take. Yeah, so I think there's a good
Speaker 1: chance we see any offensive tackles the next six picks.
Speaker 1: And obviously you can't guarantee that, but if that happens,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys will have their pick of the litter of
Speaker 1: whoever they decide is worth it. Yeah, yeah, obviously it's
Speaker 1: it's what you want to see. Yeah. And he also
Speaker 1: factor in Ruben Foster still out there, Yeah he is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you think there's a good bet he goes somewhere the
Speaker 1: next seven picks. Well, let's talk about Detroit and they're
Speaker 1: on the clock at twenty one. The picks in for
Speaker 1: Detroit needs defensive in outside linebacker, wide receiver, cornerback, tight end,
Speaker 1: boy They almost got their tight end, didn't they tight ends?
Speaker 1: The interesting one here? Yeah. Assistant coach now in Detroit
Speaker 1: is Al Golden. Yeah, who recruited David the Joku to Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Alcohol Golden. Right. Eric Ebroun has not quite lived up
Speaker 1: to the top ten status that he was. He hasn't
Speaker 1: been terrible, but he hasn't lived up to it. They
Speaker 1: have a decision to make with his fifth year option
Speaker 1: coming up and no Joeku's he's a possibility here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I've kind of It's always funny. It seems like the
Speaker 1: Lions are They're always Why why are they still struggling
Speaker 1: to find tight ends? Well, I mean it seems like
Speaker 1: they're always because none of the ones they draft. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. I mean, do you feel like
Speaker 1: they're gonna waste? Not waste? And I don't mean to
Speaker 1: call it waste. I'm not calling it waste. But Eric
Speaker 1: Abron could have been Aaron Donald or Odell Beckham just
Speaker 1: for whatever that's worth. So sure, I'm comfortable calling it
Speaker 1: a waste. You're comfort calling a waste? I mean, no,
Speaker 1: no offense, I get well, it need top need for
Speaker 1: Detroit defensive end outside linebacker, linebacker. Yeah, that's I really
Speaker 1: felt like this pick was going to be the pass
Speaker 1: rusher of the linebacker. The top linebackers on the board.
Speaker 1: You got Foster, Jared Davis, pass rushers, Charles Harris. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you see they're they're pasted to Charles Harris Steel by
Speaker 1: the way. So I thought Charles Harris was going to
Speaker 1: be one of the very surprises. Yeah. I thought he
Speaker 1: was very surprised. But are we into trade up range?
Speaker 1: I don't know, man, Yeah, they're not. They now they
Speaker 1: took us off air for a little bit. Jerry and
Speaker 1: McClay were out of the room. Yeah, fifteen now five ten.
Speaker 1: I think they're I think they're I think they're sitting
Speaker 1: this one. I think they're just gonna sit here and
Speaker 1: see what's happened there. It's the picks in for Detroit,
Speaker 1: so that'd be six picks to them. Uh ash as
Speaker 1: we speak. So, uh okay, you you mentioned linebackers, talk
Speaker 1: about We know about Foster. A guy we haven't talked
Speaker 1: a bunch about is Davis. Javis. Yeah, he's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite. He's a first round pick all day. He
Speaker 1: was one of those guys that doesn't get enough to do. Uh.
Speaker 1: And you know, my my favorite line on him is
Speaker 1: there is not a passive bone in his body right. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: those bones have been bruised and battered and sprained and
Speaker 1: durability is the only reason we're not talking more about
Speaker 1: Jared Davis. He was an animal in Florida. Can play inside,
Speaker 1: can play outside. I think he's probably best as a
Speaker 1: SAM at the NFL level, But I really like everything
Speaker 1: he brings to the table. Really, the only thing I
Speaker 1: worry about was just staying healthy. Uh. You know, he's
Speaker 1: had plenty of issues at Florida that kept them off
Speaker 1: the field, But when he's on the field, no brainer
Speaker 1: for as run pick. Yeah, we I like what you're saying.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I thought the tough to I
Speaker 1: thought it was extreme toughness. You know, you were talking
Speaker 1: about maybe sometimes getting caught on the wrong side, you know,
Speaker 1: with a read. But when he took it on, I
Speaker 1: mean he was He was a physical, physical guy at
Speaker 1: that point of agressive. Yeah, so aggressive. He loves the play.
Speaker 1: We talk about Ruben Foster in the same light, I
Speaker 1: mean Jared Davis, there's not I don't think there's a
Speaker 1: big gap between Ruben Foster and Jared Davis. I really
Speaker 1: don't really, it's just a durability that's the big factor here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And Dave, I mean the Lions defensively. I mean last
Speaker 1: year we saw them, you know, late in the season here, Yeah,
Speaker 1: gave up some he kind of took it on the chin. Yeah,
Speaker 1: give him some big yards. Yoh yeah. Well, and and
Speaker 1: if that's the pick, that's great. It's just and I
Speaker 1: guess I shouldn't be surprised because I feel like I
Speaker 1: said that all spring is you know, how concerning are
Speaker 1: these red flags for Ruben Foster that you're getting into
Speaker 1: the twenties. Now, it's not even that you're taking other
Speaker 1: players over Ruben Foster, but you're straight up taking a
Speaker 1: linebacker over him, saying, hey, we'd rather this guy than you.
Speaker 1: And that is that the drug test, is that the
Speaker 1: hospital incident, is that the you know, the drug stuff
Speaker 1: from when he was in college is at the injury.
Speaker 1: While I'm reading them all off and all right, and
Speaker 1: I haven't answer to my question, I guess yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I just I'm interested to see because I thought defensively,
Speaker 1: I thought they were bad. I just didn't like what
Speaker 1: they were doing defensively. I really really need help on defense.
Speaker 1: There's no Yeah, I mean, any any anybody they add
Speaker 1: on defense, I think it's gonna be Hey, haven't really
Speaker 1: been right since Sue left. Yeah, and they made that decision. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well but they were fighting for playoff spot at the
Speaker 1: very end. Yeah, but you know, defense, I just didn't
Speaker 1: feel like defensively that they were very good there. Well,
Speaker 1: they made the playoffs this year. I mean, so they're
Speaker 1: they're a team that's ready to win. Now. I see,
Speaker 1: they're fine. They yeah, they were in the Yeah they did.
Speaker 1: They were in the playoffs. That's absolutely right. So I mean,
Speaker 1: give him a little more help on defense. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: let Stafford continue to gel with that offense. They score
Speaker 1: any points in that playoff they scored like three points. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they got their butts kicked. Yeah, sure it did. So
Speaker 1: I mean they're the first team out, uh yeah, starting
Speaker 1: at pick twenty one. It's the playoff teams right right right? Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: uh we'll see. I mean it's man, they the pick's
Speaker 1: been in for a while and the commissioners has yet
Speaker 1: to uh to roll to the podium though uh war
Speaker 1: room activity. Jerry Jones is looking at it looks like
Speaker 1: he's got who here comes? Okay, here comes a commissioner
Speaker 1: for the pick for Detroit Lions first pick in the
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen NFL drafts, the Detroit Lines sling
Speaker 1: Jared Davis. There you go, da shout. I believed Hasan
Speaker 1: Reddick would be drafted ahead of Foster. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: not think that Davis would be ahead of Foster. But
Speaker 1: that does not mean that Foster is not a very
Speaker 1: good player, because he is. Again, it just comes down
Speaker 1: to the medicals and Candy stay healthy because if he can.
Speaker 1: If you told me that Jared Davis is going to
Speaker 1: average between fourteen and sixteen starts throughout his rookie contract,
Speaker 1: then he's a top twenty player in this draft. And
Speaker 1: so I mean they're getting him right outside of the
Speaker 1: top twenty and out. He's a tone setter right on defense.
Speaker 1: So I like him best as a sam um. But
Speaker 1: you talk about range, you talk about speed, the power,
Speaker 1: I mean he'll go he doesn't want to go around people,
Speaker 1: He'll go through him. Yeah, that's that's clear on tape.
Speaker 1: When he arrives at the ball carrier. I mean you
Speaker 1: hear it before you see it. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: a collision. So I really like Jared Davis and everything
Speaker 1: he can bring to the field. Okay, it means the
Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins where it pick twenty two. Jared Vis was
Speaker 1: picked twenty one. The Dolphins pick is already in. Let's
Speaker 1: quickly talk about their needs. I think the top two
Speaker 1: needs are you look at guard and you look at
Speaker 1: pass rush. Yeah, I mean a guard. Forrest lamp Is there,
Speaker 1: he's one of the top players in this draft. Uh.
Speaker 1: Offensive line Uh. And then on defense they need you know,
Speaker 1: Mario Williams has gone. Cameron wake Is. They just signed
Speaker 1: him to a two year extension. But he's like thirty
Speaker 1: five years old. I mean he's on the back nine
Speaker 1: US and he's heading towards eighteen. But they could use
Speaker 1: a young pass rusher that can groom, you know, take
Speaker 1: put him underneath Cameron Cameron wakes Wings, you know, bring
Speaker 1: them up. So who do you like your pass rushers? Well?
Speaker 1: Who I mean? But you got you got McKinley. Boston
Speaker 1: is the top of available. Yeah, who's it? Charles Harris,
Speaker 1: He's the top of ail. Charles Harris. Yeah, there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Forrest lamp Charles Harris. Yeah, one of those two picks,
Speaker 1: or one of those two players has to be this pick,
Speaker 1: or if you want to match up the best available
Speaker 1: to what Miami has been looking for, those two make
Speaker 1: the most sense. Yeah, Dave, I could see I could
Speaker 1: watch worried about losing Charles Harris here. I mean letting
Speaker 1: you spell I mean the picks in let's see any
Speaker 1: time you're gonna lose the guys eventually. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 1: way this works. Well, I mean, I'd like lamp to
Speaker 1: be here, though, I really liked pick. In the two
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL drafts, the Miami Dolphins select Charles Harris, defensive
Speaker 1: end Missouri. Is that the first pen throw of the night?
Speaker 1: The first that hurt me a little bit because you
Speaker 1: know what, and here I'm opened my big mouth and
Speaker 1: I'm thinking, oh, we haven't heard Charles Harry. You know,
Speaker 1: here's here. We kind of thought he was gonna be
Speaker 1: in the middle of the drill. Here he is a
Speaker 1: picked twenty two. But again, big spots from you. It's
Speaker 1: you just it's just perspective. You're picking twenty eighth, you'd
Speaker 1: know that these guys are gonna go. They're not all
Speaker 1: gonna be there for it. Well, and let's be honest.
Speaker 1: I mean, are we really that I don't know? Charles
Speaker 1: Harris is thirty one on my board. I just I
Speaker 1: think I feel like the Cowboys like Charles Harris a little?
Speaker 1: Can I be? Can I be real? Real? And I
Speaker 1: haven't watched I haven't watched as much tape as y'all,
Speaker 1: but I did. I watched a good amount of tape
Speaker 1: of all of the big names that we thought. And
Speaker 1: you weren't impressed with Charles Harris. This is this is
Speaker 1: me fake throwing my pin. I'm like, oh no, not
Speaker 1: Charles Harris, Like, It's fine, I don't care. I'm with you.
Speaker 1: I mean I and for that matter, Doriy Jackson falls
Speaker 1: into that category for me too. Oh absolutely. So I'm
Speaker 1: just I'm feeling good right. I'm receiving a lot of
Speaker 1: feedback on Twitter about a Dori Jackson coming off the
Speaker 1: board and how happy Dallas fans are because I really
Speaker 1: believe he would have been the pick of twenty eight
Speaker 1: if he was available. Now we'll never know. But Charles Harris,
Speaker 1: another player who I think had a very good chance
Speaker 1: of being the pick of twenty eight, he's no longer
Speaker 1: an option. And we talked about it this is going
Speaker 1: to be a guard or a pass rusher. They went
Speaker 1: with the position that means a lot more on the roster.
Speaker 1: It's no surprise at this point. Next four picks Giants, Raiders, Browns,
Speaker 1: and we have the Seattle Seahawks. So this is a
Speaker 1: prime location for some offensive lineman to come off the
Speaker 1: board starting. That's what I need. I need linemen to go.
Speaker 1: I need I need Oakland to leave Kevin King alone.
Speaker 1: But I'm feeling good about where we are right now.
Speaker 1: I feel good. I mean we're at we're how many
Speaker 1: were five picks away from where we need to be.
Speaker 1: The farther we go into this, the more Malik mcdowall's dropping. Hey,
Speaker 1: I think that's also we need to watch throw and
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm honestly starting to feel like Ruben Foster
Speaker 1: is going to be that best available on day two.
Speaker 1: Guy that Ruben Foster and Dalvin Cook, both of them,
Speaker 1: I think is that I'm not crazy for thinking that. No,
Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely I'm surprised. Everything I heard was,
Speaker 1: you know, with all the red flags. Yeah you're concerned,
Speaker 1: but you're going to trust the tape on this one.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take Ruben Foster, but to this point no
Speaker 1: one has. So Okay, Yeah, having said that, I would
Speaker 1: really love it if somebody took him here, because I'd
Speaker 1: want I want no part of him, right and if
Speaker 1: somebody else does, that's great. That leaves me a few more.
Speaker 1: I want to see offensive linemen. You want to see
Speaker 1: Ruben Foster come off the board here? Okay, because say
Speaker 1: the say the Cowboys were up right now, who are
Speaker 1: the top three players they'd be looking at? Cowboys were
Speaker 1: up right now, I think you're looking at You're looking
Speaker 1: at Malik McDowell, Kevin King, Jack Tack McKinley. Um, maybe
Speaker 1: even the woozyer. Maybe well they Tankers? Um? What about White?
Speaker 1: Are we in a situation where we're talking about ram Check? Maybe?
Speaker 1: I don't just in terms of him. I mean, Bpa, yeah,
Speaker 1: b pa, babe. Yet neither one of y'all wanted anything
Speaker 1: to do with that. Oh no, No, I mean, I
Speaker 1: I understand where you're going. I understand where you're going there,
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I would do that. I
Speaker 1: just feel like, you gotta go for the defense, though,
Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta not what if I'd say something
Speaker 1: that's gonna make everybody but me just one of wretched.
Speaker 1: Let's let's actually Giants. Okay, the Giants arow the clock
Speaker 1: real quick, Giants, Giants are on the clock. Okay, right tackle, linebacker,
Speaker 1: defensive line, tight end. The joke who's running back? Offensive
Speaker 1: line makes a lot of sense here, obviously in Cam
Speaker 1: Robinson ramcheck Forrest lamp All there. If they don't go
Speaker 1: that direction, they need a linebacker. But this is not
Speaker 1: a team that is traditionally drafted linebackers early. But Ruben
Speaker 1: Foster's there, I mean, do you really want, I mean,
Speaker 1: think about the collision of Zeke and Ruben Foster. The
Speaker 1: Giants might have and I mean it worked out for
Speaker 1: him because they've invested so much in their secondary, in
Speaker 1: their line, but they might have the worst linebacker corps
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And but this is a team, it's
Speaker 1: kind of like the Cowboys in a one technique, you
Speaker 1: know this, Yeah, this is a franchise that they haven't
Speaker 1: drafted a linebacker since like the early eighties. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just traditionally they have not believed in the value
Speaker 1: of a linebacker in the first round, So maybe they
Speaker 1: never thought that a linebacker this good would be there.
Speaker 1: And that's very true. I mean that very well may
Speaker 1: be the case here because Ruben Foster top ten pick.
Speaker 1: When you talk about the tape, it's the red flags
Speaker 1: that are dropping him at this point. So at some
Speaker 1: points of value that you can't pass up, can they
Speaker 1: pass up ram Check? No, that's offensive line I think
Speaker 1: is a clear favorite here. Clear and the ram Check
Speaker 1: Lamp Robinson, whoever's the top lineman on their board, that's
Speaker 1: the favorite here. But yeah, you know that you do
Speaker 1: have to look at Ruben Foster being available. You can't
Speaker 1: rule that as an option. But no, I think offensive
Speaker 1: line is definitely the favorite. The defense is legit. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I have a hard time believing they would pass. And
Speaker 1: I got to assume they like one of those three linemen.
Speaker 1: Somebody get one of them, doesn't matter. Maybe hell, maybe
Speaker 1: you could play Robinson or ram Check at left tackle
Speaker 1: and move Flowers to right since he struggled on the
Speaker 1: left side. Or maybe you get Lamp and play him
Speaker 1: on the inside. It doesn't really matter. But I don't know.
Speaker 1: The offense was the problem for the Giants last year?
Speaker 1: Was it? Not? Yeah, you got you got receivers out
Speaker 1: the wazoo, right you got a quarterback, right, Paul Perkins
Speaker 1: was pretty solid. There's not really a running back that
Speaker 1: you want to take here anyway. Yeah? Maybe well Dalvin Coo, Okay,
Speaker 1: which one is tight end? You like? Then? You said
Speaker 1: at Joku in jokull fascinating. Give me rank your tight
Speaker 1: ends then for me? Well, the next end, yeah is
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram, even though he's a wide receiver in my book,
Speaker 1: but I love it Evan Ingram. I mean you look
Speaker 1: at size, the speed. Uh you line them up in
Speaker 1: the slot and he can destroy you. Uh So I
Speaker 1: think you know, he's a first round pick all day.
Speaker 1: I think he deserves more mentioned in the twenties. But
Speaker 1: ahead of the JOKEU is interesting. Well, here's the selection
Speaker 1: from the Giants. Let's see Whitney twenty third pick in
Speaker 1: the twenty seventeen NFL Draft. The New York Giants select
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram. Wow they said no to in Joku? Wow?
Speaker 1: How about that saying forget saying no to in Joku?
Speaker 1: They said no to Ram? Check I said no to
Speaker 1: a tackle? Yeah? Yeah, I don't know. Look, I love
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram. Yeah, I know he's not in a traditional
Speaker 1: why tight end? You know? Inline guy. That's not what
Speaker 1: you want him doing. He's he's a one pop daddy
Speaker 1: as a blocker. Sure you not a sustain type of gape.
Speaker 1: So but line them up in the slot. I mean
Speaker 1: you know you well no, because I mean you've got
Speaker 1: Brandon Marshall there. Now, you got Beckham and Marshall on
Speaker 1: the edge. You got Sterling Shepherd in the slot. I mean,
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram's kind of your your You're making it hard
Speaker 1: to You're making him hard to cover. We oh yeah,
Speaker 1: look at the firepower on that offense. But you are
Speaker 1: you surprised? You but you had you had in Joku
Speaker 1: and I did too. I had a JOKEU over Ingram myself. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had him very close too. I mean the Joku
Speaker 1: was my what eighteen and Evan Ingram was twenty eight,
Speaker 1: so I mean not a huge gap. But again I
Speaker 1: had to Ingram as a wide receiver. Anyways, But are
Speaker 1: you surprised to see the Giants go? Yeah? Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: really surprised because I thought they needed help with the
Speaker 1: offensive line. Yeah, they still it. Ram Check. You know
Speaker 1: ram Check is say what you want? I mean, I
Speaker 1: have him as my best tackle. I have ram Check
Speaker 1: Robinson Bowls. I mean, I wasn't super super high on Bowls.
Speaker 1: But the fact that Ram checking again the medical reports
Speaker 1: I've got on him, there's not a problem with that hip.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna get cleared in June. I just
Speaker 1: it's all it's kind of like it's the it's the
Speaker 1: argument about you know, why would the Cowboys draft a
Speaker 1: tight end? Why would the Cowboys draft a running back? Like?
Speaker 1: How much? Why would they draft a wide receiver? How
Speaker 1: much more do you really need in terms of your
Speaker 1: skill players? Yeah? I like that. I don't this This
Speaker 1: feels like a superfluous pick to me. I mean, and
Speaker 1: it'll probably be good like that, I mean, their offensive
Speaker 1: but we're watching them opening day. Yeah, oh yeah, when
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram goes for seven catches and now they don't
Speaker 1: cover him, Yeah exactly. But I I mean, and maybe
Speaker 1: they just really don't like those offensive linemen. But your
Speaker 1: quarterbacks older, you have skill players everywhere else. I don't
Speaker 1: Giants have a great history of taking big ten offensive
Speaker 1: lineman I would have drafted, you know, and and making
Speaker 1: him work. Pugh is pretty good. Yeah, Richland rich Weston, Richmond,
Speaker 1: rich rich Richberg, thank you. Yeah, he's pretty good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Flowers is not. Yeah, but they don't there they struggle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're to see that old Miss connection next year. Eli
Speaker 1: to ev An Ingram, It's been so long since Eli
Speaker 1: got drafted that I don't even think of him as
Speaker 1: an old Miss player anymore. He's just Eli, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't even think about it. Well, they are such a
Speaker 1: big old Miss and Giants, Well that's going out, loves
Speaker 1: Old Miss. The last time Eli man played Lsu as
Speaker 1: an Old Miss quarterback, he tripped over his center and
Speaker 1: there you go. Failed on fourth down. See yea, Raiders
Speaker 1: have two minutes left on the clock at twenty four seeds.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure out how they're gonna play. Ingram's
Speaker 1: not a wide tight end, He's Yeah, he's a flex guy.
Speaker 1: He's a slot receiver. So are you going to are
Speaker 1: you Sterling Shepard and Brandon Marshall are going to alternate,
Speaker 1: you know, the wide receiver, Yeah, the wide receiver. Two.
Speaker 1: I just I'm interested to see how they're going to
Speaker 1: use him. Flex him in the backfield maybe and right
Speaker 1: use him that way. Eager to claim is a move guy, right,
Speaker 1: he's trying to be a mismatched player. Move him around.
Speaker 1: Just let him. He's used to playing on the move anyway. Oakland,
Speaker 1: does Reggie McKenzie ever think that Ruben Foster would be here? No,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. If you look at Oakland inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: they need a three down linebacker. They do pison. You
Speaker 1: think Raiders fans want to take another headcase Alabama linebacker.
Speaker 1: I don't know. The last one didn't work out so great. Rolando,
Speaker 1: that's the one I was. He was one of like
Speaker 1: over the last decade. I thought he was can't miss.
Speaker 1: I thought he was going to be a beast. He
Speaker 1: was for like eight weeks in Dallas. Yeah. Here the
Speaker 1: needs picks in for the Raiders commissioner not yet walk
Speaker 1: into the podium. I'll tell you their needs inside linebacker,
Speaker 1: running back, cornerback, those tackle, defensive tackle, and wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Got your corner You got eat corner backs in mind.
Speaker 1: I mean we taught me, okay, inside linebacker. We talked
Speaker 1: about Foster. This is a popular landing spot for Kevin King.
Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, they need they do need help at corner.
Speaker 1: I mean Sean Smith is getting up there. He has
Speaker 1: not been lived up to his free agent contract, right
Speaker 1: Amerson is He's a guy. I mean, you lived with
Speaker 1: him as a starter, but you there's room to upgrade there.
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, let's look at the top corners here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, I could say we talked
Speaker 1: about Foster for the inside linebacker, for Davis White, Gary Cook, Cooks.
Speaker 1: If they need a running back, we talked about Coop,
Speaker 1: but they've got Marshawn Lynch. Now I think they're gonna
Speaker 1: go that. Yeah, I don't think they're gonna go that
Speaker 1: route myself. Cornerback? Who are your best cornerbacks on the boards? White?
Speaker 1: Gary on Conley, which is just a loaded situation obviously,
Speaker 1: Fabian Moreau, a Woozier, Kevin King. Who's the best out
Speaker 1: of that group? I mean, yeah, it's got to be
Speaker 1: Connley doesn't. Yeah, well yeah, but you're not gonna draft
Speaker 1: him first guaranteed contract? Yeah, dicey for me, I wouldn't
Speaker 1: do it. I'm so glad. I'm other needs there as well.
Speaker 1: We talked about the nose tackle defensive tackle. Is Trey
Speaker 1: White a possibility here? Is that too soon? I mean
Speaker 1: it's too soon for y'all. But if you rank, if
Speaker 1: you rank them, though, Conley's better than White, am I
Speaker 1: right about that day. I think everybody have wait ahead
Speaker 1: of yeah, white, ahead of too. Yeah. But I do
Speaker 1: think that the NFL is like kind of like a
Speaker 1: Dory Jackson. They like Conley more than we do. But again,
Speaker 1: I look, can you draft a player in the first
Speaker 1: round who is the subject of a rape investigation? The
Speaker 1: issue is we don't know what NFL teams know. Some
Speaker 1: teams might be comfortable with it, some teams might not.
Speaker 1: But say, what if if mister Davis was alive? Well,
Speaker 1: I think they would pick Conley? Yeah, just win baby, Yeah,
Speaker 1: no serious selections in hope comes a commissioners mister Davis
Speaker 1: is alive. Yeah, yeah, let's see this ought to be interesting.
Speaker 1: We're the twenty fourth pick in the twenty seventeen NFL Draft.
Speaker 1: The Oakland Raiders select Gary Conley. Wow, people back, Wow,
Speaker 1: that got everybody. That got everybody eyebrows all went up
Speaker 1: on that one. If you look at everybody, the blinking
Speaker 1: guy Gift, Yeah, this is the this is blinking guy
Speaker 1: Gift right here. All I gotta say is they bet
Speaker 1: they better know more than we know. I mean, you
Speaker 1: just you cannot take a player who's the subject of
Speaker 1: a rape investigation. In the first round unless you feel
Speaker 1: very strongly I don't care. I mean you you, I
Speaker 1: mean you better have a strong feeling. You better have
Speaker 1: more evidence than is what's been reported. Hey, here we go.
Speaker 1: And according to rap before he took a polygraph test
Speaker 1: tonight for the Raider tonight, the night of the draft,
Speaker 1: an hour before they draft them. That doesn't mean anything
Speaker 1: to me. I don't so what you passed a polygraph
Speaker 1: like that is set Like, aren't polygraph I'm not a lawyer,
Speaker 1: but aren't polygraphs like not even always invisible? And really
Speaker 1: get the hell out of here in order. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: watched SVU all weekend last year, last week. I mean, listen,
Speaker 1: you to take him here, you better be comfortable that
Speaker 1: there's not an issue because not, I mean, yeah, forget
Speaker 1: the PR backlash, sure, forget that you're just wasted a
Speaker 1: first round pick. If the is turns out he is,
Speaker 1: he's guilty or more involved and this is going to
Speaker 1: stretch on. But you know, listen, Gary on Conley is
Speaker 1: a player. He's a heck of a player. He is,
Speaker 1: He's a good player, and there were no character issues
Speaker 1: and I think that's a big thing that's playing in
Speaker 1: in his favor. If this was say Joe Mixon, he's
Speaker 1: not getting drafted. Yeah, because there's a pattern with Gary
Speaker 1: on Conley. There's no pattern here. This is a player
Speaker 1: who you talked to a HIU State coaches. They rave
Speaker 1: about him about the personality is the player that he is.
Speaker 1: And I think that plays a big part in this
Speaker 1: two thoughts one, even if we don't agree with it,
Speaker 1: that is very Oakland Raiders pick. Oh sure it is too.
Speaker 1: That's why I said what I said about mister Davis.
Speaker 1: All Right, forget the Raiders. The war room cam is
Speaker 1: back on the wall, which what's going on? What's going on?
Speaker 1: The Ford Center war room cam is a shut off.
Speaker 1: Cleveland's on the clock. This is a pick they obtained
Speaker 1: from the trade with the Houston Texans. That the Texans
Speaker 1: went up to the twelfth uh to twelfth overall pick
Speaker 1: and they selected uh, Deshaun Watson. And so let's see
Speaker 1: what in fact? Uh like, I say, what the what
Speaker 1: direction they might go? Dane that ye're my you're my
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown resident. Tell me about the GPO to wound, Dan,
Speaker 1: tell me what they're gonna do? Yeah, you got you
Speaker 1: got your defensive ends taken care of. Yeah, it's you
Speaker 1: got you got quarterback, safety, a corner back, uh, and
Speaker 1: tight end. Could this be Miami? Could this be? I mean,
Speaker 1: could this be the Miami guy to tight end? I
Speaker 1: mean I think they're that'd be fun. They want an
Speaker 1: impact player. Uh, and they trade it away from Millie Cooker. Okay,
Speaker 1: they picked up a first they picked up a first
Speaker 1: round pick. Uh to trade back away from a player
Speaker 1: like Millie Cooker. Ruined Foster is still available. I mean
Speaker 1: there's some talented corners Tradevius White, Kevin King. I don't
Speaker 1: know what do we think here? I the Browns, they
Speaker 1: could go anywhere they have still over the roster. I mean,
Speaker 1: I really don't feel comfortable with any of these guesses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would think that they've got to be looking at
Speaker 1: these cornerbacks though there's no way this is a quarterback.
Speaker 1: Is there no cornerback? But I'm saying, is there anyway
Speaker 1: that this is a quarterback? Like a guy who throws
Speaker 1: the ball. I don't know, Kaiser, I don't think they
Speaker 1: do it. Um, I don't think they liked Kaiser. What
Speaker 1: safeties you have left? I mean, because that was I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at your knee chart. For Cleveland. You've got
Speaker 1: quarterback free or strong safety. They need both, they need both.
Speaker 1: Who who do you got left? Do you have anybody
Speaker 1: in mind? Who to Baker Peppers? There's the top two.
Speaker 1: Who do you like of those two? Baker? Um? I
Speaker 1: like Peppers, don't love them. Yeah, but look, I mean
Speaker 1: I kind of I mentioned it before. They had a
Speaker 1: chance at Mollie Cooker and they traded away from him,
Speaker 1: but from him. Yeah, Stephen and Jerry Jones very active
Speaker 1: on their work of the phones right now from the
Speaker 1: Ford Center were room. Yeah, so yeah, let's see that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're they're passing that phone around. So Charlotte wants to
Speaker 1: get on the phone. Yeah, she wants to jump in there. Okay,
Speaker 1: put me on the call. I mean there, Oh, she's
Speaker 1: hanging it up there. There's no panic with them. How
Speaker 1: could you be panicking? I mean look at all, Like, okay,
Speaker 1: you got the wild card and Foster. But then going
Speaker 1: back to the these are the guys who they brought
Speaker 1: in who are still there. Taco, I'm sorry he was
Speaker 1: on the list though, Yeah, Taco, uh t J Watt,
Speaker 1: Malik McDowell, Kevin King, Chittabay Tack McKinley. Yeah, I just
Speaker 1: I just read off like five or six names, and
Speaker 1: I mean there's only there's only two more teams to pick. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so mathematically somebody they like has to be there. It's
Speaker 1: just a matter of which one, Yeah, or does anybody
Speaker 1: want to trade up? Yeah. See they're they're they're talking
Speaker 1: about it. Looks like in war room cam right now,
Speaker 1: they're talking about the possibility of going back or just
Speaker 1: standing there and taking a guy. Jerry's got his thinking
Speaker 1: face on. Yeah, Steven's trying to convince him to if
Speaker 1: I've seen this look before, He's trying to pick the
Speaker 1: number of players on the board and get the number
Speaker 1: to see if they trade it back to a certain spot.
Speaker 1: You know, I say this every year, but it's I
Speaker 1: just wish they I just want to sit in there.
Speaker 1: I won't report it, I won't record it. I just
Speaker 1: want to hear him. I just want to hear what
Speaker 1: it's like. Yeah, Stephen now working the phone and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to figure out he's looking. He's flipping
Speaker 1: his trade sheets back, so that's where he's someone's trying
Speaker 1: to offer him some picks to see if he will
Speaker 1: be meant to see how many times he flipped that
Speaker 1: sheet because he can count first round, second round, third
Speaker 1: round sheet. So that's what he's working off right now.
Speaker 1: His sheets, the actual draft sheets that you write your
Speaker 1: picks down on. So he's checking to see what somebody's
Speaker 1: got as far as surplus and hanging up the phone
Speaker 1: right there, So picks in for the Browns. We've kind
Speaker 1: of talked about it a little bit. Kind we kind
Speaker 1: of got sidetracked there. That's fine. Did get it sidetracked again? Quarterback,
Speaker 1: free safety, strong safety. We felt like that was probably
Speaker 1: a need right there, Dane, you said either one, right, Well,
Speaker 1: I mean I like Buddha Baker better, but I have
Speaker 1: them closer closely rated with Peppers, so you wonder what
Speaker 1: Peppers with that deluded sample, Yeah, how that would affect
Speaker 1: his drafts? Sure, I mean you get it's similar to
Speaker 1: Dorry Jackson. You love the talent, he just you kind
Speaker 1: of worry about is he a better athlete than football player?
Speaker 1: Right at this point? And with Peppers it goes even
Speaker 1: further and you don't know what position he's gonna play.
Speaker 1: Is he a true strong do you have to play
Speaker 1: him as a hybrid. It's interesting because again I go
Speaker 1: back to it. They traded it away from Lee Cooker.
Speaker 1: And you know it's if they take a safety here,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be watching. Did the two careers in the
Speaker 1: safety here? Especially a kid from I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: know where Peppers. Peppers is not an Ohio in New Jersey? Gay, Yeah, here,
Speaker 1: you traded from Ohio away from Ohio state player at
Speaker 1: the Yeah, the school up north. Yeah. Oh, Browns fans
Speaker 1: are gonna hate that. No, they don't want to root
Speaker 1: for Jabral Peppers. See look at Dan, Look at Danny.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, they won't. No, they won't. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: Jersey sales won't be well the selections in see what
Speaker 1: we got. Let's see if the commissioner makes here, you guys,
Speaker 1: the commissioners now stroll into the podium. Here we go.
Speaker 1: With the twenty fifth pick in the two thousand and
Speaker 1: seventeen NFL Draft, the Cleveland Browns select Jabral Peppers back
Speaker 1: to back. Interesting, I mean I had a Buddha Baker
Speaker 1: Jabral Peppers. Yeah, they're stacked on my board U thirty
Speaker 1: three and thirty four overall. Look, Peppers is an elite athlete. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, he's five eleven two fifteen legit four four athlete.
Speaker 1: Um man, he what is he gonna play? Is he
Speaker 1: as true strong? Is he a hybrid player? Yeah? How
Speaker 1: are you going to use him? You have to have
Speaker 1: a plan before you draft Peppers. Um, I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see how they use him in that. But if you
Speaker 1: look at the Browns what they just did on defense
Speaker 1: with Miles Garrett and now Peppers, Right, they just got
Speaker 1: better up up front and in the back half of
Speaker 1: the field. It's a lot of speed. But you said it,
Speaker 1: they traded away from Hooker. That's something that will always
Speaker 1: you know, when they trapped. Absolutely, And look, this is
Speaker 1: a regime that they all about numbers. It mattered. The
Speaker 1: numbers matter. Now we talk about production. The numbers aren't
Speaker 1: great for Peppers. Right, one career interception in his final
Speaker 1: college game, I believe. Yeah. Well second, well, yeah, we
Speaker 1: didn't play the game very good, right, and it was
Speaker 1: on a tipped pass that I think all three of
Speaker 1: us would have made. But uh, Dane wants to spit
Speaker 1: right now, No, I don't. I just providing context. So
Speaker 1: it's you're being honest, Yeah, exactly, I just it is
Speaker 1: what it is. But you're talking about guys that really
Speaker 1: impressed the combine. Yeah, I mean you're talking about athletes
Speaker 1: and what if we see I mean really, And that's
Speaker 1: why I'm surprised Najoku is still available right um, But
Speaker 1: that's why we saw Dorry Jackson going the top twenty.
Speaker 1: So it's interesting. I reserve judgment until we see how
Speaker 1: they use them, because that's what I'm most eager to see.
Speaker 1: How how Peppers is used. Is he just order from
Speaker 1: day one for them? But because they need it, they
Speaker 1: need a lot of safety hip well, Jabil Peppers very
Speaker 1: It's saying a polarizing players because you look at the
Speaker 1: situation with with him, you know there was there's you
Speaker 1: getting arguments with people and in the draft about where
Speaker 1: you know Jabril Peppers would go? Should he be a guy?
Speaker 1: If you know Dallas would take him at twenty eight?
Speaker 1: I think. So it's another player that Cowboys would not
Speaker 1: have drafted. The Cowboys would not have drafted him. But
Speaker 1: I'm glad he went before they came up on the
Speaker 1: clock so I didn't have to hear it from Cowboy fans.
Speaker 1: There you go. What if we talked about this whole time,
Speaker 1: about the trade back option? Yeah, how many offensive line
Speaker 1: we have three offensive linements still here. Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: have the best the best tackle still on the board,
Speaker 1: according to Dane and I with Ram Chick. If they
Speaker 1: mean Seattle's on the clock. Now, if Seattle didn't take
Speaker 1: Ram check, pretty good bet an linement goes here. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: if they take you know, King, Kevin King has been
Speaker 1: a guy that had been mocked to Seattle. If he
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Ram Chick ends up in Seattle. Okay,
Speaker 1: now Kevin King us in play well for the Cowboy.
Speaker 1: And now I'm glad you said that, because now I'm
Speaker 1: getting to a point. You know, when you pick twenty eight,
Speaker 1: you try to convince yourself that these guys you love
Speaker 1: aren't going to be around. But it's starting to look
Speaker 1: like some of these. I mean, I would love to
Speaker 1: draft Kevin King, I Tack, I would I would be
Speaker 1: big time. I'm on board with. So if you're gonna
Speaker 1: trade back, you're probably gonna trade away from a guy
Speaker 1: that you feel pretty good about, which you know, ideally
Speaker 1: you don't want to be in that situation, but I
Speaker 1: guess we'll see. Yeah. I mean, that's ah. They're they're
Speaker 1: sitting there very calmly, and it doesn't like the phones
Speaker 1: are ring. I mean they fielded some early calls. It
Speaker 1: didn't like they were making any calls. You think this
Speaker 1: team would draft Foster? I can't. Where would you play
Speaker 1: him exactly? That's the thing. I mean, Sean Lees finally
Speaker 1: looks comfortable playing Will's where he's not getting hurt. That's
Speaker 1: Ruben Foster's best position, Yeah, is the will. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't see it at all. Yeah, and maybe I don't.
Speaker 1: And based on how far he's fallen, I don't think
Speaker 1: anybody's trading up to get him. But the Raiders not
Speaker 1: wanting to draft another Alabama linebacker problem. Yeah, similar situation
Speaker 1: with the Cowboy they draft Nice tried Nick Saban. They
Speaker 1: walked us into it once, wasn't it you? Mister Brian
Speaker 1: brought us told me Atlanta. I was trying to get up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: here's Atlanta. Oh well, maybe the Cowboys opportunity. Tommy Dimitrovy,
Speaker 1: this is my this is my be King. This might
Speaker 1: be Kevin King right here. They're pretty good at corner though.
Speaker 1: They were talking or they're maybe getting ahead of Dallas.
Speaker 1: They've also talked about what what was a guy? I
Speaker 1: think this is a pass rusher like you said that,
Speaker 1: not what what I think? I would guess this is
Speaker 1: a pass rusher before I think it's a cornerback. I mean,
Speaker 1: they've got Desmond Truffon. They who's the other who's the
Speaker 1: Alfred is the kid that had to pick six? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I mean, I I don't know Atlantis got the pick.
Speaker 1: Let's see it. They're getting in front of They're getting
Speaker 1: in front of Dallas and they're and why would I
Speaker 1: think this? I mean, I don't know. Tommy d buddy,
Speaker 1: Tommy Dimitroff, best mare in the National Football Yeah, let's see.
Speaker 1: I think it's a pass rusher. I I don't know,
Speaker 1: We'll see it might be, it might be let's see.
Speaker 1: If I don't know, I mean, I'm trying to think
Speaker 1: of exactly, uh that we talked about. I do know
Speaker 1: that that they were talking about going up because the situation,
Speaker 1: they don't have a lot of pick and they felt
Speaker 1: like that they needed to go get a Okay, here
Speaker 1: comes Rod Marinelli. Rod Marinelli in the room, So that's
Speaker 1: gonna be get me a rushman. Yeah. They're trying to
Speaker 1: figure out which guy, which one of those defensive defensive
Speaker 1: players that they want. He's Okay with that, Kent, Kent,
Speaker 1: can you give me a Marinelli real quick? Oh they're
Speaker 1: shaking hand. Yeah, we got on the board solid. Okay,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a defensive player, clearly. Okay, the Falcon
Speaker 1: select did you see the did you see the half
Speaker 1: high five half fIF fist pumped that Stephen Jones and
Speaker 1: Marinelli just executed. Yeah, let's see a commission. Here we go.
Speaker 1: Commissioners on the podium. Commissioners on the podium. No, okay,
Speaker 1: had to get ahead of Dallas. They knew, they knew
Speaker 1: they had to do that. Tack McKinley off the board
Speaker 1: for the Let's see the reaction in the war room
Speaker 1: right there. They all they they just kind of they
Speaker 1: were all there. Charlotte looks the most distraught right now.
Speaker 1: Pretty cool attack. He's a large picture of that as
Speaker 1: a grandmother, I believe looks like his yeah family, some
Speaker 1: type of family. His grandmother raised him. Yeah. Um, so
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a very he doesn't have a relationship
Speaker 1: with his parents. His grandmother basically raised him. Uh, and
Speaker 1: it looks like he's he's got the picture with him
Speaker 1: all over. Yeah, pretty cool. They talked to him before
Speaker 1: the draft and he was talking about, you know, his
Speaker 1: upbringing and how you know, grateful he has just to
Speaker 1: have gotten to this point. It's pretty cool. And his
Speaker 1: aunt and uncle came in with him. So I mean
Speaker 1: disappointing because this is a guy the Cowboys really liked,
Speaker 1: and yeah, y'all you know we liked. But hard to
Speaker 1: feel bad for the guy going to a contender. He's
Speaker 1: he's gonna be playing with Vic Beasley, so he's gonna
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to make plays. I mean, just objectively
Speaker 1: removing the Cowboys from the equation. That's exciting for him.
Speaker 1: He's a very careful with that handshake. That's older. Still
Speaker 1: a little tender. Yeah, shoulder is a little tender there. Okay,
Speaker 1: So Dallas loses a player right there, Tack McKinley. Atlanta
Speaker 1: jumps in up front and it is able to grab
Speaker 1: him at twenty six. I haven't seen the trade yet
Speaker 1: from Seattle, what they were offered. It means Buffalo is
Speaker 1: on the clock. This is a pick that they got
Speaker 1: from Kansas City. So silver lining if you're looking for it.
Speaker 1: And I mean, again, for the millionth time, drafts are
Speaker 1: about multiple years, not one season. But it's at least
Speaker 1: a little bit of a relief for me to think
Speaker 1: that the guy the Cowboys pick is likely going to
Speaker 1: be healthy. Yeah, I you know, I mean we're here,
Speaker 1: and you know, maybe McKinley's not ready until October healthy.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying I want a guy who can play Dane.
Speaker 1: I've been saying that. I get it. Uh, And it'll
Speaker 1: be interesting to see which way they go because Kevin King,
Speaker 1: Malik McDowell. Yeah, I mean, and I'm sorry, pour through
Speaker 1: some notes here. I mean, they could oh a lot
Speaker 1: of different ways here, Yeah, they sure could, but all
Speaker 1: ways that they like. Yeah, so I think I think
Speaker 1: that's uh my guy Tias Bowser is still hanging around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: let's see Bowser. Yeah. Yeah, the picks in for Buffalo Buffalo.
Speaker 1: They drove boys, guys hackets fired up. Yeah, yeah, goddamn.
Speaker 1: Oh whoa hey, hey, that is not appropriate for TV tech.
Speaker 1: You need to learn your list. What's wrong here? Here's
Speaker 1: some people high fiving Rod Marinelli. Yeah, cowboys high from
Speaker 1: high fighting, shaking hands. So it looks like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are gonna gonna keep this pick. And with Rod Marinelli's
Speaker 1: shaking hands with everybody, let's see who In fact, they're
Speaker 1: gonna get uh their guy. Let's see who that would
Speaker 1: be again. They haven't haven't made a call yet. Over
Speaker 1: on the side, there's oh, here's the phone, Jerry joneses
Speaker 1: going phone, Jerry Jones going on the phone. And so
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back and watch this whenever we're off
Speaker 1: the air, because this is awesome. And to that point,
Speaker 1: Tack at the combine was far and away the best
Speaker 1: interview in terms of just like an engaging, interesting guy
Speaker 1: to talk to. Yeah, well, let's see the cowboys again.
Speaker 1: Handshakes all around in the war room. Uh so, uh,
Speaker 1: here we go. Let's see if, in fact that we
Speaker 1: can figure out who they are going to take here.
Speaker 1: And you know, we we've thought about. We've got defensive ends.
Speaker 1: Lionel Vitel has fired the hell up. Yeah, he's fired
Speaker 1: up about it as well. Who we got it? Who
Speaker 1: we got here? Boys? Do you guys your defensive ends? Dane?
Speaker 1: Who do you like is your defensive ends? T J
Speaker 1: Watt Uh, Taco Charleston's still out there. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's it for the pass rushers, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: Pays Bowser he's still there. I think he's a candidate
Speaker 1: this right m And then if it's not a corner,
Speaker 1: then you know top corners for Davious White, Kevin King.
Speaker 1: So there's a five namely Milike mcnell. So I think
Speaker 1: those six names right there, Yeah, I mean we are
Speaker 1: we missing someone? Those seems like it would be one
Speaker 1: of those six. Yeah, I think that. I think that
Speaker 1: you're definitely looking at some type of a defensive the
Speaker 1: defensive placing Garrett Sam Yeah. Really it's then here Rod
Speaker 1: Miranelli now jumping on the phone. Good and good to work,
Speaker 1: solid to pay. Yeah, here's a need you to need
Speaker 1: you to rush the passer. So we we've we talked
Speaker 1: about this. It could be like I say, we got Charlton, Uh,
Speaker 1: we've got the again the corner King is still on
Speaker 1: the board. But uh with Marinelli, I have a feeling
Speaker 1: he got his guy. I have a feeling they got
Speaker 1: their guy that them up. I mean, he's the he's
Speaker 1: the de coordinator. But wouldn't wouldn't Joe Baker or Greg
Speaker 1: Jackson be in the room if this was a dB. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes that makes a lot of sense right there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely this is a rushman. Yeah, so we're looking at
Speaker 1: Taco Charleston or TJ. What, Yeah, pick which one do
Speaker 1: you like better? Or that it might give me what
Speaker 1: But yeah, no love for McDowell. We're not throwing him
Speaker 1: in there. I don't know. I mean, I I just
Speaker 1: feel like though that again this is it could be
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean I'm just looking at my
Speaker 1: board as far as those guys as the you know
Speaker 1: what makes a lot of sense, as you said, but
Speaker 1: maybe it's a situation where again they don't feel like
Speaker 1: that he is a that he is a true defensive end.
Speaker 1: And maybe they feel that way. Yeah, maybe they feel
Speaker 1: that way with U with the uh uh, with their
Speaker 1: with their rush the way it is. I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of feel like that he is a left
Speaker 1: right defensive end. I mean, he's a guy don't see
Speaker 1: making a lot of wild plays. If that's in fact
Speaker 1: the guy and I think we've all you know him,
Speaker 1: you know or what you know, which one of the
Speaker 1: guy with the corner king. I'm just you know, it's
Speaker 1: just I don't know. I mean, I I'm kind of uh,
Speaker 1: kind of a little bit of trying to trying to
Speaker 1: gauge to me, like I say, if it if it
Speaker 1: was if it was a defensive back. I think we
Speaker 1: would see I think we would. I reserve the right
Speaker 1: to be wrong, but I'm it's a pass rusher. I'm
Speaker 1: telling you. I agree. Yeah, I think you guys are
Speaker 1: kind of you're reading it right, Um, yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's I think it's Uh. I just I can say
Speaker 1: if if I think Joe Baker and those guys would
Speaker 1: be in there with Marinelli in there, I think that
Speaker 1: that you're we're looking at one of these. I think
Speaker 1: I think that, uh. I think that that's where I
Speaker 1: would I would go with in saying it's going to
Speaker 1: be one of these, you know, like I say, the
Speaker 1: defensive ends that we talk about, McDowell, Charlton, one of
Speaker 1: those guys. Uh. You know, Well we'll see so uh
Speaker 1: you know, but again we're still waiting on they have it.
Speaker 1: The the buffalo pick is in uh and we're still
Speaker 1: waiting on that. Uh. So we'll see in fact, but
Speaker 1: with all the handshakes, they clearly have got their their guy,
Speaker 1: and the TV's just looks like it's behind the situation
Speaker 1: right here. But it feels like this happens like every year,
Speaker 1: but it usually happens towards the back end, like the
Speaker 1: picks start coming faster than the TV can keep up with.
Speaker 1: They did a pretty good job down the beginning of
Speaker 1: the stretch, but yeah, it is what it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well it's uh, we'll see if the commissioner yeah and
Speaker 1: like say, this will be the you know, when the
Speaker 1: Cowboys do go on the clock officially, it'll be brought
Speaker 1: to you by Hublow the watch company. Uh they are
Speaker 1: they our official sponsor for every time that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: going the clock. So we thank you very much for that. So, uh,
Speaker 1: let's see if in fact, uh, the uh, the the Browns,
Speaker 1: the Browns is traded back into the first Yeah, the
Speaker 1: Browns just traded, yeah, back in So we've hypothesized for
Speaker 1: all of these days and weeks that maybe the Cowboys
Speaker 1: trade back and it happens in front of them and
Speaker 1: behind them. Yeah, that's fascinast due. Yeah, so uh you know,
Speaker 1: we will we will as soon as the Cowboys officially
Speaker 1: get on the clock again. It looks like the pick
Speaker 1: that has been made it get TV's behind. We just
Speaker 1: don't want to. We're speculating about uh, possibly of defensive ends,
Speaker 1: you know, and a lot of talking going on here
Speaker 1: trying to get the uh, you know the all that
Speaker 1: situated with the with the network. But just watching war
Speaker 1: room cam if you are at home, you see the
Speaker 1: Cowboys again, handshakes all around. Their pick has been in
Speaker 1: just now a matter of TV catching up. But here
Speaker 1: it goes. It looks like we're going to get the
Speaker 1: commissioner walking to the podium here. Once in my life
Speaker 1: I want to see a draft room that's just kind
Speaker 1: of like, I guess this guy's okay, Like it's all
Speaker 1: you know, kind of like we are. Every draft pick
Speaker 1: is just like the Bill's best second. Here we go
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. We're the twenty seventh pick in the
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen NFL Draft. The Buffalo Bills select White. Okay,
Speaker 1: defensive back. All right, so Tredavious White, yeah, player we
Speaker 1: all liked. Uh he goes to the Buffalo Bills and
Speaker 1: so that takes a cornerback out of play. But again
Speaker 1: I feel like though that with Rod Marinella, I didn't
Speaker 1: see any of the secondary coach now rolling in there.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where Uh, that's where I think
Speaker 1: we're gonna get this defensive defensive end either Taco Charlton,
Speaker 1: Uh would be a possibility. T j. Watt would also
Speaker 1: be a possibly there Bowser. We talked about him as well. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, all of them, all of them visits, all
Speaker 1: of them were were thirty visits for the Cowboys. Future
Speaker 1: Cowboys quarterback John Stephen Jones hanging out in the war
Speaker 1: room too, So I got the whole family in there. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so let's see, let's see what what happens here again,
Speaker 1: Buffalo they're gonna do there, just you know, talk about
Speaker 1: again as exciting. Okay, let me ask you this, does
Speaker 1: Taco Charlton, if he in fact is the pick, does
Speaker 1: does he excite you? Is that? Is that a guy
Speaker 1: that uh? Is that that type of guy that you
Speaker 1: thought could be an edge rusher, right edge rusher, left
Speaker 1: edge rusher. I'm gonna let you film geeks deal with
Speaker 1: all that crap. I just feel vindicated that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in that circumstance would agree with me. Is that just
Speaker 1: get me a guy, Get me a guy, like shut
Speaker 1: up about the right end and like can he be like,
Speaker 1: just get me a dude, Get me a freaking defensive
Speaker 1: end who can get in here? They get a dude? Yeah,
Speaker 1: time will tell, Dane, time will tell. I guess if
Speaker 1: they drafted him if and we were talking about you know,
Speaker 1: like I say, would you rather have Kevin Kevin King
Speaker 1: or Taco Charlton here, That's what you gotta have to
Speaker 1: look at personally. Me personally, Kevin King has been my
Speaker 1: pet cat for about a month now. I like him
Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, I would probably have drafted Kevin King.
Speaker 1: But over the last five days, I would say, not
Speaker 1: even a whole week, but just really since this week started,
Speaker 1: I just kind of had this sneaking suspicion that they
Speaker 1: wanted to get a pass rusher in the first round.
Speaker 1: I felt like that was paramount to them. I mocked
Speaker 1: Tias Bowser to them in the first round to day
Speaker 1: you're thinking defensive end all the way. I don't even
Speaker 1: like Tias Bowser, but I just thought that that's what
Speaker 1: they wanted. They want a guy who can get the quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's why they got knocked out of the playoffs the
Speaker 1: last two times they've been there. Like Tacos, I love tacos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and all about the taco huh personally And like I said, okay, again,
Speaker 1: only time will tell, But I think Taco Charlton can
Speaker 1: come right in and be a viable member of the rotation,
Speaker 1: I would play him on the left side of the line.
Speaker 1: I would let to Marcus Lawrence and Benson Mayowa play
Speaker 1: on the right side. So then you probably have Taco
Speaker 1: and David Irving playing on the left side, with David
Speaker 1: Irving occasionally playing defensive tackle. Does any of this sound
Speaker 1: appealing to you? Well, hey, it picks in here for
Speaker 1: the Cowboys. So is any of this sound appealing to
Speaker 1: you at all? What I just said, No, I'm listening.
Speaker 1: It works for me. And on top of that, you
Speaker 1: think down the line, DeMarcus Lawrence is in a contract here, right,
Speaker 1: you gotta worry about that. David Irving is on a tender,
Speaker 1: so he doesn't have a long term future here. This
Speaker 1: guy five years of a pass rusher. At the very worst,
Speaker 1: he's a left end who can just do his job
Speaker 1: and be a guy. And that's not bad at twenty eight.
Speaker 1: And that's what you're talking about, Dane, Right, this guy's
Speaker 1: got the similarities of and at the very best, how
Speaker 1: good could he be once Rob Marinelli gets his hands
Speaker 1: on him for a couple The best compliment that I
Speaker 1: can give Taco Charlton is he reminds me a lot
Speaker 1: of Justin Tuck. Justin when I watched him at Notre Dame,
Speaker 1: that's a fantastic comparison, that exactly. And that's the best
Speaker 1: compliment you give now Justin Tuck follow the third round
Speaker 1: because he had an ACL and all that, but uh,
Speaker 1: he really took his game to the next level when
Speaker 1: he got to the NFL. Um and so it's up
Speaker 1: to Taco Charleton to do the same because really Charlton
Speaker 1: was a one year starter basically, as he was kind
Speaker 1: of lost on that depth chart three. You know, there
Speaker 1: were a three fourth scheme under under excuse me, Dane
Speaker 1: at the podium, Wait, twenty eighth pick in the two
Speaker 1: thousand and seventeen NFL Draft, the Dallas Cowboys select Tacto Charlton.
Speaker 1: I think we confirmed our suspicions there. Yeah, yeah, it's uh, look,
Speaker 1: I think they're better players on the board and and
Speaker 1: that's fine, but I think I think they got a
Speaker 1: good player. Um, it's up to talk of Charles and
Speaker 1: take his game to next level. Next levee. Now is that?
Speaker 1: Like I said, he is a one year starter in
Speaker 1: the flashes are intriguing. You're talking about a big guy.
Speaker 1: He's almost six six two hundred and eighty pounds. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, not that quick twitch speed guy around the edge.
Speaker 1: But you factor in his length, you factor in once
Speaker 1: those long legs start going those big, strong strides, he
Speaker 1: can be a pass rush threat. He's just he's still
Speaker 1: figuring things out. Yeah, I like him. I'm not sure
Speaker 1: that he's going to pay immediate dividends in year one.
Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to be a double digit
Speaker 1: sack guy. Yeah, Cowboys fish not expect that. They're picking
Speaker 1: twenty eighth. They're not gonna get a double digit sa guy.
Speaker 1: Expectations And and that's fair ky like I was doing
Speaker 1: last year with Bosa here and well landon. If you're listening,
Speaker 1: if you haven't like left to go jump off a bridge,
Speaker 1: and anybody else that's out here that's upset about this pick.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's not great right now, Maybe he's he's can
Speaker 1: he can he contribute? Can he contribute right away? Is
Speaker 1: he gonna be a game day inactive? No? No, right,
Speaker 1: he's ready to go right away. Maybe he's your Jack Crawford.
Speaker 1: That's an argument that I got into today is maybe
Speaker 1: he's not any better than Jack Crawford. That's fine, and
Speaker 1: it's not great, but again, you're picking twenty eighth. That's
Speaker 1: the type of guy you get at twenty eight, right,
Speaker 1: And and for what you just said, he reminds you
Speaker 1: of Justin Tuck. Yeah, um what, He's a one year starter.
Speaker 1: He's still growing into what he can do, so there
Speaker 1: is every reason to hope that he can blossom into
Speaker 1: a much better player, especially working under a guy like
Speaker 1: Rob Marinelli. I feel like we lean too much on
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli sometimes, just in what he can do and
Speaker 1: what he can develop, Like at some point it's on
Speaker 1: the player. But I just I and I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not doing backflips over this pick, but this whole spring,
Speaker 1: I just I just feel like Taco has been in
Speaker 1: this echo chamber where everybody's convinced he can never be good,
Speaker 1: whereas I just think this is a side solid pick
Speaker 1: that could put it this way, it's not going to
Speaker 1: come back to bite you in the ass. I don't think.
Speaker 1: At the very least, Yeah, at the very least he'll
Speaker 1: be an okay player. Solid pick is probably the best
Speaker 1: way to put it. At the very least, he'll be okay,
Speaker 1: and there's at least a chance he'll become something better
Speaker 1: than that I think each of us would have taken
Speaker 1: someone else. That doesn't mean it's a bad piss rue.
Speaker 1: It does not mean that's totally fair. I would have
Speaker 1: taken somebody else, Yeah, I think Kevin King. Yeah. But
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna sit here and throw up because I'm
Speaker 1: so upset that Taco Charlton's It is not a bad pick.
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, I think all of us
Speaker 1: would have taken someone else. That does not mean this
Speaker 1: is a bad pick. He's a player that was right
Speaker 1: there late, first, early second. For me, it's not like
Speaker 1: this is bad value. I like it. I prefer t J.
Speaker 1: Watt is a pass rusher, but Taco Charlton is not
Speaker 1: a bad player, and you get excited about what he
Speaker 1: can be. Like I said, a one year starter, a
Speaker 1: guy that once he was in that fourth three scheme
Speaker 1: that they went to this past year and had a
Speaker 1: chance to be a full time starter. He was close
Speaker 1: to double digit sacks. I mean, there's there's a lot
Speaker 1: of potential here. So it's if Taco could reach that
Speaker 1: that great Would you say that he has a and
Speaker 1: I mean we're not comparing him to a guy taking
Speaker 1: in the top ten, but for where you're taking him,
Speaker 1: does he have a pretty high floor in terms of
Speaker 1: he's you know, he's not gonna be noticeably worse than
Speaker 1: you already think he is. I guess, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess that's fair. I just I think of I
Speaker 1: just I think of him as a guy who can
Speaker 1: come in and be one of the four main defensive
Speaker 1: ends in this defense right away. Right He's just not
Speaker 1: gonna wow you that. I mean, that's kind of been
Speaker 1: my my thought with him the whole time. And again
Speaker 1: I'm askin, has DeMarcus Lawrence wowed you? No? See, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, though, that's the type of player you're drafting. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that, but it sucks, but that's what that's what
Speaker 1: you get. At twenty eight I was thinking though, maybe
Speaker 1: that if you look at the see that's why I
Speaker 1: would have taken King. I I you know, and I
Speaker 1: had both players in the second round, but I think
Speaker 1: that maybe I would have taken King here because I
Speaker 1: saw a guy that was really it was always close,
Speaker 1: but never really finished. You know that he the motors great,
Speaker 1: the efforts great. Give me the guy that's gonna finish.
Speaker 1: That's what I want, you know, And we're you know,
Speaker 1: we're you know, right there, and we're watching some highlights.
Speaker 1: Though able to get around the edge right there a
Speaker 1: couple of times were showing. But I just did not
Speaker 1: see a guy that consistently. That's what I was really
Speaker 1: really he wasn't. Yeah, and he's very he's still very raw.
Speaker 1: I mean he had only forty three tackles. And that
Speaker 1: matches the tape because he would often read the run
Speaker 1: wrong right, he'd guess a lot. There's still so much
Speaker 1: he has to learn. And that's that's okay. I mean
Speaker 1: that's again, like to your point, picking twenty eighth in
Speaker 1: the first round, these are the types of players you're
Speaker 1: going to get there. Far from perfect. He has a
Speaker 1: long way to go, but he's going to be part
Speaker 1: of the rotation as a rookie, and you feel better
Speaker 1: about your odds of getting a dB you really like
Speaker 1: at sixty than a pass rusher. Yeah, I mean we
Speaker 1: said that all along. Yeah, of course, and and and
Speaker 1: that's just then the Browns is on the I sounded
Speaker 1: like I'm I'm I'm not meaning to like be condescending
Speaker 1: because obviously y'all know more about this than I do.
Speaker 1: But Browns are up, Dave, excuse me, I's trying to
Speaker 1: talk Cowboys. Brian d the All right, I'm sorry, Dave
Speaker 1: now finished. No, No, you're good Cleveland Browns. That was
Speaker 1: a that was a pick. I like that pick a
Speaker 1: lot that they got from the Green Bay Packers, and
Speaker 1: they drafted A David and Joku the tight ends from
Speaker 1: id me. Okay, Dave, I'm sorry, go ahead and finish
Speaker 1: your thought. It's an awesome player for Cody Kessler to
Speaker 1: check down to next season. Look, look the Cody Kesler's
Speaker 1: your quarterback and that's he's an intermediate style quarterback. So
Speaker 1: given another tight end to work with. Look what the
Speaker 1: Browns have done in terms of athleticism Miles Garrett, Jabrol Peppers,
Speaker 1: David and Joku. Right, I mean you talked about three
Speaker 1: big time athletes. I mean, it's really impressed with the
Speaker 1: Browns have done. Now, they gave up thirty three, and
Speaker 1: they gave up one a week. The first pick in
Speaker 1: the next two days. Teddy Thompson to get back to
Speaker 1: to our pick because this is and what great bay
Speaker 1: With the first pick tomorrow they're gonna get T. J. Watt. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well we'll see who got some teams on the board,
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh still on the board. I'm just I'm just saying, great,
Speaker 1: they they know what they're doing. But let's okay. But
Speaker 1: but seriously, though, and for perspective's sake, that's the Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe you don't like the player, but they addressed that
Speaker 1: saying we don't like the player. But okay, even if
Speaker 1: you don't, even if you're whatever, whatever your opinions about
Speaker 1: the player are. They addressed the pass rush. They did.
Speaker 1: That's that was his goal number. And like I said,
Speaker 1: it seemed like the writing was on the wall that
Speaker 1: they knew they had to do that. There. Whatever you
Speaker 1: might think about Taco Charlton, he's better than the guy
Speaker 1: they were gonna get tomorrow night. He's better. He's gonna
Speaker 1: he's gonna make a bigger impact than Mindy Gregory this year.
Speaker 1: Your hell, you're damn right about that, Dane Brugler on
Speaker 1: So I look at that, I think about how deep
Speaker 1: the draft is at defensive back. I think about the
Speaker 1: fact that, again Stephen Jones said on Monday as well,
Speaker 1: is the pass rush here fantastic? No, But they finished
Speaker 1: in the top half of the league. They've got guys
Speaker 1: that they feel good about you add a at least
Speaker 1: decent to solid player who can contribute to that right
Speaker 1: away at the back end of the first round, and
Speaker 1: he has the potential to grow into something better later
Speaker 1: in his career. And unlike DeMarcus Lawrence, who you gave
Speaker 1: up picks to get, I mean, this guy just fell
Speaker 1: to you at twenty. You just stood there's a solid player.
Speaker 1: Yeah's gay And again, I I've said about the wild part,
Speaker 1: but you know, I just like to see. I'm going
Speaker 1: to be interested to see if he is able to
Speaker 1: finish with some consistency. That's what I want to see.
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about rush up the field, get pushed
Speaker 1: past the quarterback, rush up the field, used to spin, move,
Speaker 1: get blocked, rush up the field, get stoned at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. You know, I know the guy could play.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just if you're thinking about him, know,
Speaker 1: being that guy that right in Rusher, I don't think
Speaker 1: this is that guy. I don't think he is either.
Speaker 1: I've been He's not. He's not that guy. But my point,
Speaker 1: and that's left end Justin Tuck. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: I like that comparison. I think Justin Tucks the hell
Speaker 1: of a football player. And this you can go back
Speaker 1: to January or February and find us having this argument
Speaker 1: on this show, which is that at twenty eight, just
Speaker 1: give me the solid left end over the guy who
Speaker 1: might be a good right How do you feel about
Speaker 1: left and right end? I hate it. Just give me
Speaker 1: a player that in twenty fourteen. In twenty fourteen, we
Speaker 1: had these same arguments and they gave up a third
Speaker 1: round pick because DeMarcus Lawrence was that he's the last
Speaker 1: rite end in this draft. That's the guy. It has
Speaker 1: to be him or it'll be No. One. And his
Speaker 1: most successful season to date came at left end. So
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it another trade, by the way,
Speaker 1: Just get me a player. The picks in forty nine
Speaker 1: ers traded up. Okay, first, I wonder if that's for
Speaker 1: a quarter back? Why did why did all these people
Speaker 1: want to do business with everyone else but not the
Speaker 1: cowbo like look at the Cowboys fielded a couple of calls. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you couldn't get out of Maybe they're asking for
Speaker 1: too much. Picks in for Pittsburgh one give an idea
Speaker 1: the last three picks. Of course, Dallas at twenty eight
Speaker 1: takes takes Taco Charlton. Uh. Cleveland trades with Green Bay
Speaker 1: and get and takes David and Joku the tight end
Speaker 1: from Miami. This means that Pittsburgh is on the clock.
Speaker 1: Or actually, excive me, the picks in for Pittsburgh. So
Speaker 1: let's see who what direction uh they go to? This
Speaker 1: is a pick Atlanta, uh uh Pittsburgh. After that, it
Speaker 1: sounds like the trade. Dan, you say, it's San Francisco.
Speaker 1: So San Francisco, San Francisco pick, it's the thirty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's Atlanta to sit to Seattle, now to San Francisco.
Speaker 1: So after we get the Pittsburgh pick, then that puts
Speaker 1: sanfords Cisco on the clock. And let's see what direction
Speaker 1: they happened to go. It go to Ruben Foster has
Speaker 1: to go at some point, right, yeah, Okay, there's a
Speaker 1: steward selection. Go ahead. Two weeks ago, we lost one
Speaker 1: of the most beloved members of our NFL family, Ambassador
Speaker 1: Dan Rudy, A true Hall of Famer. Dan embodied everything
Speaker 1: that is special about this game. He was a great
Speaker 1: leader for the Pittsburgh community and a tireless advocate for
Speaker 1: the Steelers. But more than that, he was one of
Speaker 1: the best men I've ever known. To pay tribute to
Speaker 1: him tonight, I want to introduce two players who Dan
Speaker 1: loved dearly, Franco Harris and Jerome Bettis than your Commissioner.
Speaker 1: On April thirteenth, twenty seventeen, Dan Rooney passed away. When
Speaker 1: he passed, he was holding the hand of his beloved
Speaker 1: wife at Dan loved his family, he loved God, he
Speaker 1: loved our great country and still a nation. He loved you,
Speaker 1: and he loved us, the players. He loved us. He
Speaker 1: was so approachable, so respectful, and he was a good man.
Speaker 1: And he was good to the city of Pittsburgh. He
Speaker 1: touched many lies and the NFL he had a major impact.
Speaker 1: And with that impact, he made a difference and touched
Speaker 1: a lot a lot of lies. Is also so then Rooney.
Speaker 1: He will be missed, but his spirit will live on.
Speaker 1: Mister Ruey was. He was a great man. He was
Speaker 1: a great owner, but he was even a better person.
Speaker 1: He got an opportunity to know each and everyone of
Speaker 1: his players, not as the football player, but as the person,
Speaker 1: as the man. And he would always with me, thank
Speaker 1: me for everything that I had done for the organization.
Speaker 1: All the while I was trying to thank him. He
Speaker 1: would never ever let me thank him because he felt
Speaker 1: it was about what we did for his organization more
Speaker 1: than what he did for me personally and for my family.
Speaker 1: So at this time, I just want to say thanks Dan,
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. We'll miss you. And now, with the
Speaker 1: thirtieth pick in the twenty seventeenth NFL Draft, the Pittsburgh's
Speaker 1: did us select T J. Watt, linebacker Wisconsin. T J Watt.
Speaker 1: That's where t J. Watt belongs to say, that's a
Speaker 1: great pick. Ghost stand up somewhere. Ye don't need to
Speaker 1: be here, t J Watt. So the uh? And I
Speaker 1: think that I think t J. Watt would have been
Speaker 1: a consideration here. But I think that that, you know,
Speaker 1: the Steelers listing him as an outside linebacker, that's what
Speaker 1: he is, you know. And I think the questions about,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe that he was a guy that would
Speaker 1: have been a good fit here. They thought he was
Speaker 1: a right end, you know. I think it initially started
Speaker 1: that way, but I don't think it ended that way
Speaker 1: for t J. Watt. So uh, that's uh, He's gonna
Speaker 1: end up Pittsburgh. He's play outside linebackers, So good for
Speaker 1: the Steelers to get them a quality a guy, an
Speaker 1: outstanding technique player. You talk about effort, technique and all that.
Speaker 1: T J. Watt is one of the best and only
Speaker 1: really playing only really one year of college football as
Speaker 1: far as a defensive player. Am I right about that, Dane,
Speaker 1: as far as in what he's done. So Pittsburgh Steelers
Speaker 1: grab him and we'll play him at the outside linebackers
Speaker 1: spot and it'll be part of that defense. Okay, San
Speaker 1: Francisco now owns the pick again. This is a pick
Speaker 1: that was Atlanta's, went to Seattle and now was traded
Speaker 1: for by the San Francisco forty nine ers. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about San Francisco a little bit. He schefter tweeted the
Speaker 1: trade and he said that they traded back in to
Speaker 1: get a player they considered at two and three. That
Speaker 1: tells you who it is right there. Yeah, it's the linebacker.
Speaker 1: It's a linebacker. Yeah. This is gonna be Rubin Foster.
Speaker 1: Not to give it away, yeah, but I mean it
Speaker 1: to get a player you considered a two and three here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: quite quite the value. Yeah. Yeah. So this in reading
Speaker 1: the and and Dane I think has correctly read the
Speaker 1: tea leaves. There's no one else that's falling, right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I mean, this is it. This is
Speaker 1: gonna be San Francisco went back in and you're absolutely right,
Speaker 1: from from the chef to tweet. Uh, this this pick
Speaker 1: is gonna be Reuben Foster. It's got to be the
Speaker 1: falling player. I mean, that's the only reason why you
Speaker 1: would trade back in for a guy uh like that,
Speaker 1: that that type of ability. Uh. So San Francisco, just
Speaker 1: to give an idea, the team needs, uh, quarterback, cornerback,
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. We've talked about the defensive end. They drafted
Speaker 1: Solomon Thomas and then and then here's uh maybe a
Speaker 1: running back is also a need from them they wanted
Speaker 1: They're looking for volume pass catchers. But I agree with
Speaker 1: Dane on this one. I think the inside linebacker this
Speaker 1: is gonna be a Reuben fall So that one had
Speaker 1: a worst pre draft process. Uh talk about about tease table.
Speaker 1: He's it's a pretty bad for him too. But I
Speaker 1: don't think he had a deluded sample. That's true. He didn't.
Speaker 1: And of the medical stuff, he didn't get in a
Speaker 1: fight either. Yeah, it wasn't sent home from the combine.
Speaker 1: Maybe he should have been sent home from the combine.
Speaker 1: It would have worked out better for well, although he
Speaker 1: did run a four six at the combine and that
Speaker 1: turned out to be the best time for him instead
Speaker 1: of the Pro day. But yeah, with Foster, you know,
Speaker 1: with his issues are well known. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: medical stuff too, the deluded sample being sent home from
Speaker 1: the combine. Um, you know at this point he's worth
Speaker 1: the risk, right, I mean, yeah, absolutely, take a player
Speaker 1: like that in the top fifteen, you kind of you're
Speaker 1: crossing your fingers. You're still crossing your fingers here, but
Speaker 1: you feel a lot better about the value this this
Speaker 1: late and the forty nine ers felt good that he
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be there at thirty four. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that to me, that the value of the player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we we've kind of talked about Alabama players tend
Speaker 1: to get a little bit beat up, you know, the
Speaker 1: medical part. I didn't you know, he's got the shoulder
Speaker 1: that he's dealing with. Yeah, but I don't see a
Speaker 1: guy that you know it. Talking to some trainers about him,
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like that. They didn't feel like that
Speaker 1: he was overly taxed physically. And I'll to you what
Speaker 1: you watched this guy on tape? Holy smokes. Every time
Speaker 1: he hits somebody, it looks like it hurts. It looks
Speaker 1: like whoever he hits, it's violent. Yeah, he's just a
Speaker 1: violent player. He reminds me of yeah Rolando. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: not just in that, but like, I mean, Rolando's that
Speaker 1: way he hurts people out there. Man. Yeah, it's really impressive.
Speaker 1: Just the stopping power, I mean, the you know, rarely
Speaker 1: do you see Rubin Foster make contact and he's moving backwards. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all almost one hundred percent of the time that ball
Speaker 1: carrier is either stopped dead to right. Here's the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers. Oh here it is forty nine. We just
Speaker 1: missed that Commissioner went to the podium gushing about him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Ruben fob sorry about that day. I don't mean to
Speaker 1: cut you off. Oh no, it's Ruben Foster always, the
Speaker 1: fact that he has who we thought with the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers selection. So that puts the Saints on the
Speaker 1: clock now at thirty two. So pick the gap from
Speaker 1: New Orleans. Actually from the New Orleans you have to
Speaker 1: pick from New England. I'm bombed that it's about to end.
Speaker 1: Like I'm not ready to stop. We got two more days.
Speaker 1: We got a couple more days. We absolutely do so.
Speaker 1: Ruben Foster, we talked all about him. Saints on the clock.
Speaker 1: They went Marshawn Lattimore at that took care of their
Speaker 1: cornerback spot. That was the number two need so far,
Speaker 1: though other needs defensive end, quarterback, strong safety, and outsider
Speaker 1: inside linebacker. So we'll see what in fact the Saints.
Speaker 1: Do you have anybody on your board, Dane, that you
Speaker 1: really really really like that's left? Oh? Absolutely, I mean
Speaker 1: it's not a surprise. We're seeing Dalvin Cook fall out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you called that and I thought he was gonna
Speaker 1: get picked that. I think Dalvin Cook was expected. Ryan Ramcheck,
Speaker 1: that really surprises me. Yeah. Forrest Lamp that's another one
Speaker 1: that surprises me. Malik McDowell. I know he's got his
Speaker 1: maturity issues, but still he's a top five talent, right,
Speaker 1: So a little surprise he's still around. Saints be in
Speaker 1: line for a tackle. I think the Saints could be
Speaker 1: in line for a tackle. Zach Street is he still playing?
Speaker 1: He's like fifty. Yeah. They took the your Stanford tackle
Speaker 1: in the first round a couple of years ago, but
Speaker 1: they played him at guard. Yeah, he's a guard. Picks
Speaker 1: in for the Saints, Armstead, this is gonna end the round,
Speaker 1: uh for the night. I have a hard time thinking
Speaker 1: Sean Payton picks two defenders. That's just not something I
Speaker 1: think he's gonna. I like what you guys are saying that.
Speaker 1: I mean, lamp makes a lot of sense, you know,
Speaker 1: depend on where you want to play him. Ram Chick,
Speaker 1: I ram Chicks my number one tackle. Ram Chicks, my
Speaker 1: number one tackle on the board. And I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know how he's lasted all the way to
Speaker 1: thirty two. Okay, well let's uh the pick is in
Speaker 1: for the Saints. But well we got some a secret
Speaker 1: audio that we got from the war room, Taco Trump,
Speaker 1: so can't go ahead. Hey Taco, this Jerry Jones with
Speaker 1: a Dallas cowboy. How are you doing with Joe? We
Speaker 1: just strafted you. Listen, you got a lot of support
Speaker 1: in this room. Congratulations, sir, yus, Sir Taco. Here's your
Speaker 1: head coach, Jason Garrett. He's been in here rooting for
Speaker 1: you all afternoon. Okay, here he is, Taco. How you doing, coach?
Speaker 1: I'm doing great? Congratulations? Thank you? Are you ready to
Speaker 1: get going. Yes, sir, I can't wait. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Definitely want let's sat down, coach. We're awfully excited to
Speaker 1: have you, and uh, A lot of it has to
Speaker 1: do with who you are. You got a lot of ability,
Speaker 1: but a lot of it has to do with who
Speaker 1: you are as a person. Get ready to go to work.
Speaker 1: I'm okay, wait, I can't wait. So it's okay. Wait, Hey, congratulations,
Speaker 1: so excited for you. Thank you. I'm gonna hand the
Speaker 1: phone to Rod Marinelli. Okay, Taco, how you doing, coach?
Speaker 1: You're ready to roll with me? I'm ready? I'm ready.
Speaker 1: Oh yes, sir, I'm ready. Okay, you know what i'd
Speaker 1: get my cleats on right now? Start running here. Hey, hey,
Speaker 1: that's what it took. I'll tell you all do it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we're ready to roll now. I couldn't be more excited
Speaker 1: and had a great visit with you here. Now you
Speaker 1: know what I want, right? I want another I want
Speaker 1: another level to whatever. I'm ready. I can't wait to
Speaker 1: get my hands on your big guy. I can't wait
Speaker 1: to be there, coach. Okay, congratulations, thank you. That's the
Speaker 1: secret audio from Taco Charlton the first round pick from
Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, number twenty eight and uh we're joined
Speaker 1: now by Taco Taco. It's Brian brought us Dame Brugler
Speaker 1: David Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Welcome to the
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. We we're really really excited to see you.
Speaker 1: Happy to have you. Man. We listen to all the
Speaker 1: secret audio there and it appears that you and Coach
Speaker 1: Marinelli already have a really good relationship with each other. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So in Dallas, you know, me and coach may Nelly
Speaker 1: really got a chance, uh sit down and talk with
Speaker 1: big cats. So you know, we got real close. And
Speaker 1: he know, he coached me up like he was I
Speaker 1: was already there, so he was getting after me. You know,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. And you know he told me from
Speaker 1: day when about end up and down as he gonna
Speaker 1: push me to be the great player I want to be.
Speaker 1: Hey talk, and you know you just mentioned that working
Speaker 1: with with coach Marinelli and Leon Lett and this is
Speaker 1: a team that has needed help at pass rush, you
Speaker 1: know for several years now. Just what what exactly did
Speaker 1: they tell you? You know, we know that you came
Speaker 1: in here for a visit and what what exactly were
Speaker 1: those conversations, like, what what kind of plan do they
Speaker 1: have in mind for you when you get here? I
Speaker 1: mean they loved my you know, they loved my film.
Speaker 1: We watched Field, they loved they seen uh, and they
Speaker 1: just felt like, you know what, you know, don't coach,
Speaker 1: don't coach me up. My potential just you know is
Speaker 1: you know, you really can't match it. So they felt
Speaker 1: like I was a great player, I could do some
Speaker 1: great things, and coach marine coach Marinelli just felt once
Speaker 1: he got his hands on me, you know, it was
Speaker 1: it was it was a done deal from there. Talk
Speaker 1: of what I really liked about your career in Michigan
Speaker 1: was you got better every year. It seemed like you
Speaker 1: seem you took your game to the another level. What
Speaker 1: do you need to do now that you're in the
Speaker 1: NFL with the Cowboys. What do you need to improve
Speaker 1: on to take that next step as a rookie. I'm
Speaker 1: really just being consistent with everything. Uh, you know, I
Speaker 1: have great plays, great games, but just making sorts every
Speaker 1: play every time. So um, it's definitely something you know,
Speaker 1: I can't wait to, you know, get challenging and get
Speaker 1: coached up to do. But you know, I'm a guy
Speaker 1: who worked hard. That's why, you know, got a chance
Speaker 1: to get better each year and improve my statues years
Speaker 1: just because of how hard I work, you know, in
Speaker 1: the film room, on a practice field, in the weight room.
Speaker 1: So um, you know, once I get Dallas, is not
Speaker 1: gonna stop. You know, I'm trying to be an impact player,
Speaker 1: help this team win games. And you know they're already
Speaker 1: assessible team, but I'm trying to you know, up to
Speaker 1: that next get a chance to help them, you know,
Speaker 1: go to that next step. Socco. You you played for
Speaker 1: a tough coach there, Greg Madison defensive line. I mean
Speaker 1: he's working with you every day on technique and toughness
Speaker 1: and all that. Talk about your experience though at Michigan
Speaker 1: and you know, and the big games that you've been
Speaker 1: able to playing you with coach Hardball there and and
Speaker 1: talk about though that how that's gonna help you come
Speaker 1: into the National Football League. Oh yeah, Coach Man he's
Speaker 1: an NFL coach, he has an NFL experience, he knows
Speaker 1: how to get done. And uh he's a guy like
Speaker 1: coach Man Nevin. You know, you gotta do it his way.
Speaker 1: So um, I know I've already got that type of coaches,
Speaker 1: and I know how it is when to coach, it
Speaker 1: gets out to you, goes hard on you. So um,
Speaker 1: like I said, all that is not gonna be betting
Speaker 1: into me. Like I said, I just love it just
Speaker 1: because it pushed me to be the player I want
Speaker 1: to be. So I'm enjoy it. Soak it up, and
Speaker 1: like I said, take the coaches, and I try to
Speaker 1: prove my game each day. All right, taco one more
Speaker 1: and then we'll let you go. But I gotta give
Speaker 1: you a hard hitting one. I mean, you're you're moving
Speaker 1: to Texas, so where do you go for tacos? I mean,
Speaker 1: we gotta know, man, when I all out every time
Speaker 1: when I came to Dallas or you know, came to Frisco,
Speaker 1: everybody kept bringing up how tacos are everywhere? You know,
Speaker 1: you can't you know, that's where you gotta go you
Speaker 1: want to taco. But I didn't get the chance to
Speaker 1: taste one when I was in Texas. So I can't
Speaker 1: wait to go back and see, really try who has
Speaker 1: the best tacos in Texas. Let's really you know, I
Speaker 1: think I could be a great judge of that. I
Speaker 1: feel like you have endorsement opportunity. Yeah, you've got a
Speaker 1: future as an endorser. Hey, Taco, thank you so much,
Speaker 1: and again congratulations on being selected. And I know it's
Speaker 1: a special night for you. And we're looking forward to
Speaker 1: you working with you here at Dallas Cowboys dot com.
Speaker 1: And uh, we'll see you here in a couple of weeks. Okay,
Speaker 1: can't wait. You can't wait to be in Dallas. All right,
Speaker 1: thank you very much. Okay, Taco Charlton, I knew you
Speaker 1: were gonna go with it. I know you're gonna go
Speaker 1: to the question the guy just got drafted him not,
Speaker 1: I mean, he deserves a softball. Just you gotta suggest fuzzies,
Speaker 1: Taco boy. No ya, maybe maybe we'll go with him.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll hit those. I would go with the velvet
Speaker 1: Taco on Henderson and seventy five. There you go. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: while we were talking to Taco Charlton there, uh that
Speaker 1: it was the the New Orleans Saints, as we said,
Speaker 1: ended Ryan Ramcheck. Ryan Ramcheck, So ram Check ended the
Speaker 1: first round of the NFL Draft, the offensive tackle from
Speaker 1: Wisconsin the Saints. Really, you know, we talked about really
Speaker 1: not maybe a need, but best available player on the
Speaker 1: board at that particular time, Dane. Yeah, and we would
Speaker 1: you mentioned Dave about not going defense. Yeah, the two
Speaker 1: picks in the first round, and they did. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, Drew Brees has one year left on the contract.
Speaker 1: He wants to play for another five years. Give him
Speaker 1: more help up front. And at this point, Ran Ramcheck
Speaker 1: is an I was standing value. I thought he's the
Speaker 1: best tackle in this draft. U. It's interesting. I totally
Speaker 1: agree with you on that. Yeah, I know, I know
Speaker 1: you do use your top offensive Limen is absolutely, yeah,
Speaker 1: absolutely was thirty two picks in the books. My top
Speaker 1: five available after the first round now, Dalvin Cook, Forrest Lamp,
Speaker 1: Malik McDowell, broad US favorite, Zach Cunningham. Yeah, I loves
Speaker 1: Zack Cunningham. Someone's gonna get a hell of a football
Speaker 1: player in the second round, Curtis Samuel, So I think
Speaker 1: from Cunningham because obviously we know how much you like him.
Speaker 1: Is there a surprising name in there? I mean, I
Speaker 1: think we Delvin Cook, I don't think too much of
Speaker 1: a surprise, but man, Forrest Lamp, those short arms maybe
Speaker 1: hurting him a little bit more than that. I you
Speaker 1: know what, I talked to some people Dane about Lamp,
Speaker 1: and I know that were there were guys. I actually
Speaker 1: talked to a couple of different teams that were hopeful
Speaker 1: that he was going to be gone before they had
Speaker 1: a chance to pick. Yeah, and and and I mean that,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, we really I don't want to
Speaker 1: deal with that guy. I hope someone else does. I
Speaker 1: had a guy tell me, hey, I hope that a
Speaker 1: team in our division and they didn't not much respect
Speaker 1: for him. But like I said it, the short arms,
Speaker 1: you know, the fact that you know, uh, we'll see that.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe the fact that you don't know where exactly
Speaker 1: to play him. I know some teams talk about playing
Speaker 1: him at guard, some teams were talking about playing him
Speaker 1: at tackle. But I know that there were some people
Speaker 1: in the draft that were like, yeah, let somebody else
Speaker 1: be a hero there. But you know, he is a
Speaker 1: guy that's available. Uh you know, I personally, the way
Speaker 1: I had my board or the one oh five three
Speaker 1: board that we did, we had Dawkins, Freenye and Lamp.
Speaker 1: That's how we that's how we saw the guards. So y,
Speaker 1: you know, but all in the second round, not not
Speaker 1: anything where he was massively down in the fourth or
Speaker 1: fifth round or anything at that. But I like your
Speaker 1: I like what you're saying. I think tomorrow if you
Speaker 1: look at some names too. You know, Samuel the running
Speaker 1: back from running back receiver from Ohio State would be
Speaker 1: a guy Desmond King, Buddha Baka, tanks Lee. These are
Speaker 1: all second round guys, Buddha Baka, but cutting him. I say,
Speaker 1: these guys names funny all the time. But Cunningham, you know,
Speaker 1: McDowell cook. I think someone's gonna get some really good
Speaker 1: value there with those players. Those are my top five
Speaker 1: go six through ten. Six would be Kaiser seven, Buddha
Speaker 1: Baker eight, Chad Hanson. I liked him more than most. Yeah, no, no,
Speaker 1: I had Chad Hanson on the second round on my board,
Speaker 1: Carl Lawson and ten Terrell Basham. We're project we're projecting here.
Speaker 1: But how do you feel about sixty? Now, well, let's
Speaker 1: look at the top corners. Yeah, that are going to
Speaker 1: be available going into round two. Uh, you've got Kevin
Speaker 1: King right, Yep, he's there, Yep, Fabian Moreau, yep. Woozier,
Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis teased Tabor, Uh so, I mean plenty of
Speaker 1: tankerously plenty of corner options. Wincy Wilson. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I'm not We're not as big as fans, but no,
Speaker 1: but I'm just talking about just talking about it. Might
Speaker 1: it might get to a point where you get wiped
Speaker 1: out a little bit there. Huh. But but my my
Speaker 1: four guys, I mean, it depends on where you played.
Speaker 1: Des King too. Desmond King is another one that you got.
Speaker 1: So you're looking at, you know, five quarters at least
Speaker 1: for me, with Tabor Moreau, Tankers, Lely King being uh,
Speaker 1: Kevin King and then Desmond King being a possibility there
Speaker 1: as well. So I must say it's and this sounds
Speaker 1: bad because I don't want to say a guys shouldn't
Speaker 1: go first round. But Melifon will yeah, I thought you
Speaker 1: might go first round because of the measurables and the
Speaker 1: way he tested, But he just wasn't a first round
Speaker 1: player on tape. See that's that's exactly what it was, Dane.
Speaker 1: Let's let's not be let's not be uh fooling ourselves here.
Speaker 1: The numbers. He doesn't play like a four or four guy.
Speaker 1: He's a good football player, but he is not a
Speaker 1: first round player. The measurables are first round but the
Speaker 1: but the tape does not have him as a first
Speaker 1: round player, so that that to me in itself, I
Speaker 1: feel like, you know, but there there's some that I
Speaker 1: think I think if you, if you ask me, where
Speaker 1: the strength Okay, where's the strength in the draft tomorrow
Speaker 1: for people? Is it gonna be wide receiver in the
Speaker 1: second round? Is it gonna be those defensive ends or
Speaker 1: is it gonna be some corners? I mean, we talk
Speaker 1: some safety, so we didn't. I mean we we got
Speaker 1: Baker still on the board. Melifon, will you talk about
Speaker 1: Williams Woods. Just look at those corners that we just
Speaker 1: got done. Name him. There's five or six, but we
Speaker 1: can see come off the board in the top twelve
Speaker 1: to fifteen picture on day two. Yeah, so yeah, they
Speaker 1: could get wiped out pretty quickly at the corner spot.
Speaker 1: May okay, and maybe they do, which all right, I
Speaker 1: know that's the position they need. But I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at these names. I feel really good about
Speaker 1: a good player being there though. Yeah, in terms of
Speaker 1: who all's who all sitting there? What all is happening?
Speaker 1: What positions haven't really had that run yet? I Mean,
Speaker 1: there's still offensive linemen there still some quarterbacks that are
Speaker 1: probably gonna go tomorrow early tomorrow. If I had to guess, yep, um,
Speaker 1: you got some running backs, I said, Samuel, But about
Speaker 1: Kamara was a guy. I mean, I mean, there's yeah,
Speaker 1: Mixon Cook, but I still like that. I still like
Speaker 1: Mixon Cincinnati at forty one or at Minnesota at forty eight.
Speaker 1: Three four running backs that you like, Yeah tomorrow, Yeah.
Speaker 1: Three offensive tackles, Kaiser and Webb. Two quarterbacks. Somewhere, we're
Speaker 1: getting I'm trying to push players out. You're gonna put
Speaker 1: the players that way. You're You're absolutely right about that.
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right. I don't know if it'll be a
Speaker 1: corner looking at it just now, though, I like the
Speaker 1: odds that are pretty damn good safeties there yet, get
Speaker 1: do you think they would consider Sidney Jones at sixty
Speaker 1: if they get wiped out, if they got wiped out,
Speaker 1: I would think so, I would think so. But that's
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a twenty eighteen, that is a
Speaker 1: total twenty eighteen. Yeah, and and and even talking to
Speaker 1: some people about that, they're saying, listen, they might even
Speaker 1: they might even red shirt him because uh, just to
Speaker 1: protect him from himself, you know, don't let him push Yeah,
Speaker 1: just you know, let him have a whole entire year
Speaker 1: uh to uh to uh be uh healthy, to get healthy.
Speaker 1: So but they're they're very well. Might be a corner
Speaker 1: that they really liked there too, right, one that they
Speaker 1: can Uh we mocked, we mocked yesterday. We mocked him
Speaker 1: a safety is what we did. Yeah, would you rather
Speaker 1: have a safety into a corner? Maybe rather at sixty?
Speaker 1: But that might be the reality. Yeah, you know, just
Speaker 1: depending on how the board plays out. I don't see
Speaker 1: any way Curtis Samuel makes it that to sixty. But
Speaker 1: if he does, damn you, Dane, because that's what I
Speaker 1: mocked today. I want that if he does. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: that's just becomes a serious consideration. I'll go back to
Speaker 1: this and I said this already, and somebody out there
Speaker 1: is mad because they don't like taco, and somebody is
Speaker 1: thrilled because they do. Right, I love. Let just don't
Speaker 1: worry about what's going to happen. But right now, as
Speaker 1: you sit here looking at your draft needs, you have
Speaker 1: addressed the pass rush. I don't need. I mean, maybe
Speaker 1: they'll draft another one, but I don't feel that, Like
Speaker 1: remember when we did the mock yesterday and you just
Speaker 1: kind of had this like at ninety two, you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: we don't we were taking pass we don't love passing Yamba.
Speaker 1: We haven't drafted a pass rusher yet, so we better
Speaker 1: do something. Well, we handled that problem, and I maybe
Speaker 1: we'll feel the same way about the cornerback is what
Speaker 1: you're saying, or the safety on what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: at of the three positions they really need to address,
Speaker 1: I think the hardest one to address was going to
Speaker 1: be pass rusher. I think, yeah, I think you can
Speaker 1: find your corner and your safety between sixty and one
Speaker 1: thirty three. Would you agree with that? I think yeah.
Speaker 1: I think so somebody you feel pretty good about, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I don't feel that way about pass rusher. I
Speaker 1: did not want to take passion, but we had to.
Speaker 1: Had to. Now you're not stuck in that situation. That's
Speaker 1: why we took that safety at sixty Yes, say, did
Speaker 1: you not feel good about Williams sixty or sixty five?
Speaker 1: We made the move back? Did and if if Josh
Speaker 1: Jones or Marcus Williams are there, I mean, I don't
Speaker 1: think Buddha Baker will be there. But if he is
Speaker 1: in one of those three safeties, Oh my gosh, Buddha
Speaker 1: Baker's there at sixty. I just said, Baker, what's up
Speaker 1: with that? Could you knew I was gonna say. If
Speaker 1: Buddha Baker's there at sixty, I will run up to
Speaker 1: that war room. I'll do it and I'll get fired,
Speaker 1: but it'll be fine. Oh don't tell me funny. If
Speaker 1: we go to war room, Cam and Dave just gave
Speaker 1: just knocking icty over. What am I doing when you
Speaker 1: get in there? I'm draft Buddha Baker. You're just diving
Speaker 1: on the table. He's a playmaker. Take Jerry's hand. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, guys, we're getting to the top of the
Speaker 1: hour here. And by the way, I want to thank
Speaker 1: all the people that have bout out there then fallen
Speaker 1: along with us. Especially want to thank our folks that
Speaker 1: are overseas. I know that you guys hang up, hang
Speaker 1: out late. It's always not fair, but you love your
Speaker 1: football team so much and we appreciate everything you guys
Speaker 1: do for us. So thanks for everybody out there that's
Speaker 1: that's been with us for sure. What's our what's our
Speaker 1: game plan tomorrow? And plan tomorrow is We're gonna be
Speaker 1: on the air at five forty five Central time tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The draft kicks off at six pm Central, uh seven
Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern. We have rounds two and three. The Green
Speaker 1: Bay Packers will lead off the draft tomorrow. These are
Speaker 1: the money rounds. Yeah, this this is the best part.
Speaker 1: There's gonna be. There's gonna be some lacious football players here.
Speaker 1: These are there's gonna be a lot of fun. My
Speaker 1: man cutting hand. Watch he's gonna go to He's gonna
Speaker 1: go to a good team, the real, the real, the
Speaker 1: real money gets made absolute and when you help build
Speaker 1: your roster, keep yourself deaf and hey whatever, Okay, whenever
Speaker 1: you think about Taco, we got out of the first
Speaker 1: round with both of our Day two picks. Yeah I
Speaker 1: like that, sure did. And Tacco we'll see. I mean,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed a visit with him there and I look
Speaker 1: forward to He played for a tough guy there, Greg Madison.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm we'll see if Marinelli can can keep
Speaker 1: that going. I didn't know that this was going to happen,
Speaker 1: but now that he is a cowboy, I'm going to
Speaker 1: drive that bandwagon. I don't know if he's gonna be good.
Speaker 1: I can't predict the future, but I'm I'm in because
Speaker 1: everybody else is out and that he needs somebody on
Speaker 1: his side, and that's gonna be me. How sad are
Speaker 1: you gonna be when he comes here and he says
Speaker 1: I want to be known as Vedante? All right, well
Speaker 1: there go, all right, okay, whatever he wants, my guys,
Speaker 1: he can be gotta go. We'll see you tomorrow at
Speaker 1: five forty five. Thanks to everybody out there, look forward
Speaker 1: to the Day two of the NFL Draft. Take care,
Speaker 1: come back, Chap, don't come back.