Speaker 1: Look man, oh I see you. Why look over there?
Speaker 1: How is that culture? Yes? Goodness lost cultures? Calling my
Speaker 1: friend is already making me laugh my a off. Well
Speaker 1: you know what you're doing to all of TikTok? Oh,
Speaker 1: my god, our producer Becca just let us know that
Speaker 1: it's been all over her TikTok this morning. That's the
Speaker 1: way I said, TikTok, TikTok, TikTok. That Bone was dancing
Speaker 1: with Muna on stage last night at their concert. It
Speaker 1: was it was very fun and I'll leave it at that.
Speaker 1: I was with you. I remember the day that song
Speaker 1: and video drop it was we were loading into Fire
Speaker 1: Island the first day of it was the track it was,
Speaker 1: it was, it was. I remember. I was like, I
Speaker 1: turned to you, was like this song. I'm gonna dance
Speaker 1: on stage to this song and in a year and
Speaker 1: a half I'll never forget. Just like, one thing you
Speaker 1: can do with your friend and all the readers at home,
Speaker 1: one thing you can do is out of nowhere. You
Speaker 1: can just win this a quiet one. What you can
Speaker 1: just go. What does that song mean to you? It
Speaker 1: means freedom, It means being able to be free. Equality, Um,
Speaker 1: it means stoner culture. Definitely, and it means, um, the
Speaker 1: permission which goes with freedom. Yeah, do you need permission
Speaker 1: to be free? No, that's a really big question. Do
Speaker 1: you need permission to be free? Damn? Why is this
Speaker 1: the deepest podcast on the web? Everyone? Hold on, let's
Speaker 1: gett this is honest. I actually think today is going
Speaker 1: to be honestly owned. To be honest, I'm ready. I'm
Speaker 1: ready to go there if you are. It has to
Speaker 1: be honest the z own because I don't think we
Speaker 1: can well, I don't think we can comment on pop
Speaker 1: culture without being a little honestly zone today. But we'll
Speaker 1: get there. Um, this is my thing. Lost cultural Istist
Speaker 1: might be a serious podcast first, it's very serio, but
Speaker 1: one of the most serious. I think we I think
Speaker 1: we delve into meaning just meaning. Culture is meaning? You know.
Speaker 1: If culture isn't meaning I don't know what I don't know,
Speaker 1: then I don't want to be right. That's a rural cultures?
Speaker 1: Which one is that again? Number seventies seven? Culture seventy seven?
Speaker 1: If culture, culture is a meaning, I don't want to
Speaker 1: want to be right? Right? Love you is wrong? I
Speaker 1: don't want to be right? Can I tell you what
Speaker 1: I'm so into lately, What SOMENGI I'm so intulately and
Speaker 1: I can't stop listening to it, and I realized, I
Speaker 1: think it is my favorite song of all time. What
Speaker 1: my Darling, I can't get enough, Babe, what is this song?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I should know, I don't my very
Speaker 1: white sublind spot. Oh my god, there's the lead up
Speaker 1: to the chorus is so a feel the change, So
Speaker 1: then move a screen, real name. That's what you got
Speaker 1: to do? It doing enough? By god. I we need
Speaker 1: a voice like Barry White, like literally, like someone who
Speaker 1: sounds like very white back in the culture. We really do.
Speaker 1: I mean, we need I guess, bass baritone supremacy. We
Speaker 1: need them back. We truly do. You know who you
Speaker 1: know who's kind of you know what song I can't
Speaker 1: stop listening to and it's sort of giving me bass baritone.
Speaker 1: But he's like he's a rapper first and then he
Speaker 1: kind of sings as like you know, a peripheral thing
Speaker 1: is is Young Gravy is Betty is Betty by Young Gravy.
Speaker 1: It's it's it's just it's a sample of never Gonna
Speaker 1: Give You Up by Rick Astley. But it's like a
Speaker 1: really funny. It's a really funny song. He's kind of like,
Speaker 1: I'm this weird mystery, but he is apparently, Oh god,
Speaker 1: whose mom was he fucking someone helped me out here.
Speaker 1: Who's hey, whose mom was Young Gravy? Fucking it was
Speaker 1: my mom was young Gravy? Fuck um Addison raised mom.
Speaker 1: That's what it was. Yes, yes, yes, thank you. I
Speaker 1: have to say that for Verry White to be a
Speaker 1: blind spot for you and for Young Gravy to be
Speaker 1: a blind spot for me, because I I do have
Speaker 1: a blind spot for him that he's just sort of
Speaker 1: like popping off now in the last few months on
Speaker 1: TikTok on TikTok. He's just this tall guy with like
Speaker 1: you know, he's tall. He's tall, He's he's tall, and
Speaker 1: he's kind of a goofy goof His mom is an
Speaker 1: insomnia psychologist. I'm seeing here. That's amazing, very important work.
Speaker 1: She fucking I don't know, you know what I always
Speaker 1: asked about every celebrity who they fucking Um? There should
Speaker 1: be a movie where like a rapper, a white rapper
Speaker 1: dates like some like Okay, you know, I think like
Speaker 1: a Young Gravy type. I'm just I'm just that's coming
Speaker 1: to me now. But it's a young gravy type. He's
Speaker 1: fucking some tik talker's mom and then the mom to
Speaker 1: get back. Let's just and let's I'm imagining Addison Murray.
Speaker 1: This Addison rack character like doesn't like that, and then
Speaker 1: she as a way to do revenge. Sorry, Jen Kayton
Speaker 1: Robinson reference. Uh, she fucks his mom. Oh my god, okay,
Speaker 1: so let me just read back read about you said, Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: you're you're So this is the pitch White rapper, young
Speaker 1: gravy type fucking a tiktoker's mom and the TikToker doesn't
Speaker 1: like that, so she sucks his mom. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: This is a huge commercial streamer. This is a big
Speaker 1: commercial streamer on Netflix. This is a huge Netflix film.
Speaker 1: I think, obviously, like the big story at least in
Speaker 1: like pop culture in the gay community at large as
Speaker 1: of late has been Bros. And I did go see
Speaker 1: the movie on Friday night, opening night, and I loved it.
Speaker 1: And now the weekend's over and the you know, the
Speaker 1: box office numbers have come in and it was sort
Speaker 1: of a major disappointment at the box office. It's so
Speaker 1: weird to see something trotted out and the narrative be
Speaker 1: it's historic, it's historic, it's historic. You have to go,
Speaker 1: you have to go, you have to go, and then
Speaker 1: literally to get a receipt at the end of it
Speaker 1: that says people didn't go, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Like that's very demoralizing and you kind of look back
Speaker 1: on it and think, how could it ever have possibly
Speaker 1: like occasioned that thing, the sort of like mainstream milestone
Speaker 1: historicism of it, Like I really like if this is
Speaker 1: honesty zone like that that greated on me the in
Speaker 1: the entire time, it really great it on me, and
Speaker 1: it was tough for me to watch that and be
Speaker 1: like okay, And I will say that I kind of
Speaker 1: detached from it very early on. I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm very lucky to be in it. You were great
Speaker 1: in it, by the way, Like honestly, I like, like
Speaker 1: I the whole audience was so happy to see you
Speaker 1: when you popped up and you were so so funny,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the movie you pop back
Speaker 1: in for something and that hit really hard. Oh good good.
Speaker 1: I felt extremely taken care of by Nick and Billy
Speaker 1: and Guy Brandon who was on set with me, you know,
Speaker 1: producing and writing wonderful alts and just being so funny.
Speaker 1: That was guys, sort of onset ault of congratulations, you've
Speaker 1: made it to the bombed administration. Okay, anyway, that's a
Speaker 1: little spoiler, but that was all Guy Brandham, who but
Speaker 1: what's around the corner or whatever? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, the
Speaker 1: movie is great. The movie is great, and it's just
Speaker 1: I think it was. It was tough to see it
Speaker 1: all spun very specific that I feel like set itself
Speaker 1: up and well, yes, this is my thing about the
Speaker 1: whole thing is we're sitting here talking about this and
Speaker 1: this huge gay romantic comedy has come out and it's
Speaker 1: really good. And yet and yet here we are on Monday,
Speaker 1: October three, recording this, and I feel like the prevailing
Speaker 1: story about it right now is that it didn't do
Speaker 1: well and so and so I guess this is my
Speaker 1: thing is it's like and and maybe it is impossible,
Speaker 1: and maybe it was a stack deck. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it was like to be around marketing people for
Speaker 1: that movie, to be around exacts involved in that movie,
Speaker 1: to be involved with you know, whoever was producing it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what that situation felt like. I just
Speaker 1: know that it's a shame that the narrative couldn't just
Speaker 1: be for this. This is so fucking funny and good son,
Speaker 1: and that's the thing, is like it is. And so
Speaker 1: because the whole media narrative was so front loaded with
Speaker 1: this is important, and it almost became like like a
Speaker 1: like a mandate that that, like, you go see this
Speaker 1: because this is how we, you know, advance and if
Speaker 1: you don't, we're not going to get this. And it
Speaker 1: feels like like the situation that we find ourselves in
Speaker 1: as gay creators is it always has to feel like
Speaker 1: there's like an extra burden, extra thing, and we can't
Speaker 1: just come out and say, hey, this is the thing
Speaker 1: that I worked really hard on and it's really good
Speaker 1: and it's really funny, and here I am just like
Speaker 1: promoting it like any stray person would. It felt like
Speaker 1: there was this just heaviness on the movie in the
Speaker 1: beginning about being historic and being important and being new,
Speaker 1: which is important. And I definitely had an emotional response
Speaker 1: to buying a ticket and going and seeing that movie
Speaker 1: and sitting down and experiencing that. But I feel like
Speaker 1: that should have been my experience and the viewers experience,
Speaker 1: rather than the media narrative because now at the end
Speaker 1: of this weekend, I'm talking to my fellow like, you know,
Speaker 1: gay creators and artists and comedians, everyone just feels kind
Speaker 1: of like wow, like are they never are they? Are
Speaker 1: they not going to give us another chance? Is what
Speaker 1: they said true? That we had to do this and
Speaker 1: make the succeed and we didn't? So now now what
Speaker 1: So the fact that we all still feel bad after
Speaker 1: this is the fact that, like it's sort of affirms
Speaker 1: the homework assignment of it all. I'm disappointed for the
Speaker 1: movie itself. It's such a great movie, and I know
Speaker 1: I feel bad for someone like Billy who had a
Speaker 1: very unenviable thing to do. But now I go, well,
Speaker 1: I guess I am a little nervous now about whether
Speaker 1: or not this happens again, you know, But this is
Speaker 1: my question, and I think this is this is where
Speaker 1: I really want to have like a discussion. I really
Speaker 1: want to know what you think about this. Do you
Speaker 1: think that there's not other things to be learned from
Speaker 1: this can help the next thing. I hope that people
Speaker 1: that are in positions of power that can make another
Speaker 1: movie like this possible. If we do get another gay
Speaker 1: rom common theaters like or if they are, you know,
Speaker 1: if they just do better on streaming whatever. No one
Speaker 1: knows what the future holds anyway. And it should also
Speaker 1: be said that it's extremely hard for any live action
Speaker 1: hard our comedy anyway, which is another reason why it
Speaker 1: was annoying for me to have this expectation on this movie,
Speaker 1: because it's almost like seeing a man that's carrying like
Speaker 1: mattress up a stair and then saying, hey, could you
Speaker 1: also be fucking gay? And everyone knows it, you know,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's just like it's already
Speaker 1: hard enough to open a live action comedy without that
Speaker 1: whole thing of like, and people haven't supported us before
Speaker 1: in this and you better now so like and the
Speaker 1: mattress is from Mattress Firm and not like the Casper,
Speaker 1: you know. It's like it's like this new thing is
Speaker 1: sort of displaced the market for the old thing, and
Speaker 1: yet this person is still carrying the old thing, and
Speaker 1: it's expected to transcend the fact that it's a mattress
Speaker 1: from Mattress Firm. This is not like a digat mattress,
Speaker 1: and but it's but it's just like metaphorize or whatever,
Speaker 1: like the fact that like there are different expectations on
Speaker 1: like the non Avengers movie exactly, and so so it
Speaker 1: almost felt like, Okay, we haven't seen flat out a
Speaker 1: comedy really succeed you know, at the box office in
Speaker 1: a while, let alone like a romantic comedy, which also
Speaker 1: have struggled, let alone a gay romantic comedy. So I
Speaker 1: just think it was already going to be tough, and
Speaker 1: then there's this extra stuff put on top of it,
Speaker 1: which is like this sort of I'm sorry, but like
Speaker 1: finger wagging at Gabe at straight people rather which I
Speaker 1: really don't think is going to help. And now even
Speaker 1: at the end of the weekend you see the blame
Speaker 1: being put on straight people that didn't show up. But
Speaker 1: it's just like, is that actually helping? Like it does it?
Speaker 1: Does it help to say, hey, straight people, we notice
Speaker 1: that you didn't show up for us this time. Thanks
Speaker 1: a lot, like and that is kind of like the
Speaker 1: prevailing feeling at the end of this like press cycle
Speaker 1: is more like polarization. Yeah, I feel that it makes
Speaker 1: sense to me that with that urgency that like, wow,
Speaker 1: a comedy has not a theatrical release for a comedy
Speaker 1: has not succeeded in a long time, and let's like
Speaker 1: layer on all these other things. There's this enormous amount
Speaker 1: of pressure, and so in order to meet that urgency internally,
Speaker 1: you want to externalize that by saying, it's very important
Speaker 1: that everyone go see this, and if you don't, then
Speaker 1: it's of betrayal or it's it's a it's then then
Speaker 1: we will feel wronged. And then yeah, for for that
Speaker 1: feeling of wrong edness to continue is really tough. It
Speaker 1: just doesn't feel good. I mean the film, let's just
Speaker 1: be real, the film has one big star. It's really
Speaker 1: a two hander between Billy and Luke. And I thought that, like,
Speaker 1: Luke was incredible in the movie. He's excellent in it,
Speaker 1: but in terms of a media thing, like Billy's obviously
Speaker 1: going to be the one out there. He had to
Speaker 1: do pretty much the whole thing like and it's like
Speaker 1: and it's really hard, and I can't imagine what it
Speaker 1: must have felt like to be him, to be noted
Speaker 1: throughout the process of making the movie pre pro production,
Speaker 1: post and now the marketing, which is like the most heavy,
Speaker 1: weird part of it. And you are one person and
Speaker 1: I don't know if the studio mandated or whoever it
Speaker 1: was mandated the fact that the leading media narrative be
Speaker 1: the historic nature of it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Maybe they did that can be an element of it,
Speaker 1: but it can't be the whole thing. And it just
Speaker 1: felt like we got to the quality of the movie
Speaker 1: after we had maybe like exhausted this media narrative the
Speaker 1: whole time of this is important. I think it was
Speaker 1: coming from one place and not necessarily. It was not
Speaker 1: as top down as we might think it is, because
Speaker 1: I feel like on the poster you're seeing in bold
Speaker 1: letters from the director of Forgetting Sarah Marshall, the producer
Speaker 1: of Train Wreact, for your Virgin whatever, you know, like
Speaker 1: Neighbors director of Neighbors. Yeah, it's like that marketing on
Speaker 1: Let's just say the poster was telling you that this
Speaker 1: was going to be a very funny movie. Yes, this
Speaker 1: actually brings me to something in the movie. And I
Speaker 1: think it's actually indicative of, like of the fact that
Speaker 1: the museum is the first LGBT museum. That's not what
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I was actually going to And
Speaker 1: you and I have spoken about this monologue that Billy
Speaker 1: has on the beach. Excellent monologue. Okay, but I thought
Speaker 1: I was truly breathless through that monologue. I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: like this is really good. And I for those who
Speaker 1: haven't seen the movie and guys, go through the movie
Speaker 1: because it was so funny, and I just wish every
Speaker 1: one could get like, yes, it has a high Rotten
Speaker 1: Tomato score, Yes it's critically a claim. The cinema score
Speaker 1: is an a that means everyone that's seeing is loving it,
Speaker 1: leaving it being like everyone should go, you should go,
Speaker 1: because it's all getting in the way of the fact
Speaker 1: that this is really good. But us on this podcast,
Speaker 1: we're sort of just reacting to what's happening in pop culture,
Speaker 1: and this is what's happening in pop culture. This is
Speaker 1: where we're at with this movie. But I want to
Speaker 1: just pull something from the film, which is that Beach monologue,
Speaker 1: which is Billy is talking about He's responding to Luke's
Speaker 1: character saying he's the most confident person he's ever met,
Speaker 1: and Billy said, yeah, I'm confident because I had to
Speaker 1: be confident because no one was ever going to be
Speaker 1: confident for me. He's sort of trying to articulate this
Speaker 1: feeling of I had to fight my entire life to
Speaker 1: make sure that I proved that all the straight people,
Speaker 1: that all the naysayers were wrong, that I did deserve
Speaker 1: to be happy, that I did serve to be successful
Speaker 1: because I knew in my heart that they were wrong.
Speaker 1: And then there's a moment in the monologue where he
Speaker 1: looks out to the water and he says, and they were,
Speaker 1: and he says again and they were, And it should
Speaker 1: have ended right there because I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: yes they were. This is Billy Eichner, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, and can I just say pulling out?
Speaker 1: I love Bill. I have listed Billyer on so many
Speaker 1: lists of like my top influences. He truly genuinely Lewis
Speaker 1: for Tells said this online and I think it's so true.
Speaker 1: He brought a niche type of pop culture like gay
Speaker 1: male humor that we share and brought it to the
Speaker 1: mainstream and thought and like, you know, it may not
Speaker 1: be your thing, but if it is, it really is.
Speaker 1: And Billy Eichner is someone who he can do pretty
Speaker 1: much no wrong for me and making me laugh like
Speaker 1: he always makes me laugh. And he's also such a
Speaker 1: nice guy and he's a very sweet person, and I
Speaker 1: think he's deserving of success here with this. But in
Speaker 1: this monologue he says, and they were, and they were,
Speaker 1: And there's a moment where it feels like it should end,
Speaker 1: and then he keeps going, and it's clear that his character,
Speaker 1: and I think by extension maybe him is still very
Speaker 1: bitter about this idea that straight people have held him down,
Speaker 1: or if, like you know, he goes in he even
Speaker 1: says like words that we all say to each other,
Speaker 1: like how many times have we been called two nice
Speaker 1: to that whatever? And he says these things like sort
Speaker 1: of out loud, and I'm sitting there thinking, I think
Speaker 1: this was all actually much more implicit and what he's
Speaker 1: already said, And maybe by going a little bit too
Speaker 1: far in this, there's something else revealed that stops it
Speaker 1: from being like I'm on your side and starts me saying,
Speaker 1: I see that you're angry, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: And I just think, whether it's for a romantic comedy
Speaker 1: or for this film, or for us our attitude going
Speaker 1: forward in general, can I just say you're right? They
Speaker 1: were wrong, they were wrong. We needn't be angry anymore,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? They were wrong about you,
Speaker 1: they were You're you're a star, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: like like and like you know, it's it's so affirming
Speaker 1: that we got this moment. Yeah, like the best writing,
Speaker 1: especially for a moment like that, is some textually rich
Speaker 1: and he kind of it went a little too far. Well,
Speaker 1: he he kind of brought the subtext up to the surface,
Speaker 1: not not even up to the service, just kind of
Speaker 1: like pulled it up out of the water or whatever,
Speaker 1: you know, like, um, that's interesting, that's really interesting. I
Speaker 1: really and I really I was breathless that entire monologue too.
Speaker 1: When I watched, I was like, this is an excellent performance. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was great. Um, and that is I think that
Speaker 1: is the midpoint of the film. It is, Yeah, basically
Speaker 1: that's that's like where it's like very clear that they
Speaker 1: are in love or like like that that it's happening
Speaker 1: between them. And I will say this, I it was
Speaker 1: so charmed. But I was much more charmed than I
Speaker 1: thought I would be by the actual romantic aspect of it.
Speaker 1: Like everyone had been leaving me like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. You're gonna love the jokes, and I
Speaker 1: really did. I mean, there's some jokes here that I
Speaker 1: will remembering. Is incredible. Messing is so funny, and it
Speaker 1: like there's a moment where like like you see Luke
Speaker 1: and his job and like he's talking to some guy
Speaker 1: and like I won't spoil it, but the line about
Speaker 1: SHARE's staff that was so funny. The Kamala and the
Speaker 1: Kamala impressionists was so funny. There's just there's so many
Speaker 1: things and all the pop culture references like the names
Speaker 1: of fake shows and stuff like all of that was
Speaker 1: just hitting on such a deep level. But I was
Speaker 1: really taken by the fact that I really, like actually
Speaker 1: bought their romance. Like I I was really with them
Speaker 1: until then it became a little bit I felt in
Speaker 1: the script it was like, oh, this is when the
Speaker 1: characters fight because the movie needs them to fight. Um.
Speaker 1: But but I was very armed by their chemistry and
Speaker 1: like I loved the weird sex that they had. That
Speaker 1: felt very right. Yeah yeah, um. So yes, we're saying
Speaker 1: to you publicist readers Katie's um that you should definitely
Speaker 1: see it, but not because it's compulsory, because you will
Speaker 1: enjoy it, no matter guaranteed you will enjoy it. It's
Speaker 1: also relevant to us in our interests. And I will say,
Speaker 1: like I said this to you and Joel, but I
Speaker 1: feel like being a part of Fire Island and literally
Speaker 1: seeing and even more than seeing, like feeling how the
Speaker 1: sausage was made. Sort of like when I sat down
Speaker 1: to have ultimately watched that movie in the movie theater,
Speaker 1: like I didn't get to have like a full, holy
Speaker 1: complete experience watching it as like a gay movie goer
Speaker 1: because I was in it, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like we were in it. But with this I went
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, my theater was about full,
Speaker 1: and you know, it was all of these gay men
Speaker 1: laughing at these gay jokes and like, you know, all
Speaker 1: this stuff, and it felt really good. You know. I
Speaker 1: actually left the theater being like this movie is going
Speaker 1: to be successful, Like I I really think that, like
Speaker 1: people are going to come see this. And then when
Speaker 1: I googled like how I'd done at the box office,
Speaker 1: I just really my heart sank because it deserved better
Speaker 1: than that, and I wonder if we could have set
Speaker 1: it up for success. But it's not for lack of trying.
Speaker 1: And like I said, I know how hard they worked
Speaker 1: and promoting it. They worked tireless, absolutely, and I maybe
Speaker 1: maybe what's pulling at me is that it's like there
Speaker 1: is no like right person or thing to blame necessarily.
Speaker 1: Even as we're saying all this, like you know, who know,
Speaker 1: like we don't we we just we just don't know.
Speaker 1: Even even after we like posit all these things, it's
Speaker 1: it's not definitive. And so we're just here talking on
Speaker 1: our podcast about pop culture being like it might have
Speaker 1: been this, it might have been that. Who knows if
Speaker 1: it was this, who knows if it was something else?
Speaker 1: But yeah, anyway, please go see it. Yeah, people should
Speaker 1: go see it. And also, you know what, it's not
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily a capital F failure because there could
Speaker 1: be great word of mouth. And what we're telling you
Speaker 1: was like like from from us to you, like it's
Speaker 1: so funny Smile Smile, Socie Bacon talking about Smile, So
Speaker 1: Socie Bagon talking about Smile. And also but you know
Speaker 1: what they had really clever marketing. Did you hear that something?
Speaker 1: And this, by the way, Smile was like a huge
Speaker 1: hit this weekend And I actually it was funny because
Speaker 1: I was leaving that, I was leaving Bros. And it
Speaker 1: was like, I guess both movies had come out at
Speaker 1: the same time and I was like, I saw some
Speaker 1: people that I knew, and I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: so funny. Right, and they go and they go, oh,
Speaker 1: really you thought it was funny. We were so scared.
Speaker 1: I was like Rose and they were like, oh no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we saw a smile. And I was like, oh, I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, I just saw bros. And they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: for sure. Oh are all your people coming out a smile?
Speaker 1: Like but they were all coming out a smile. This
Speaker 1: is really illuminating because I'm sure there's no possible way
Speaker 1: you will ever see smile. But if you go into
Speaker 1: smile going and I love SoC oh my god, if
Speaker 1: you go into smile going, maybe I'm gonna trick my
Speaker 1: brain ato thing this is a comedy, then like you,
Speaker 1: you couldn't enjoy it, couldn't work alright, I mean probably
Speaker 1: not apparently to give a harrowing performance. But we were
Speaker 1: talking about this. It's toward a force. Just giving toward
Speaker 1: a force in a horror movie. Maybe worthwhile for you
Speaker 1: and you know what to because I do know her, like,
Speaker 1: maybe I'll be able to laugh at it a little
Speaker 1: bit more like oh that's so see, it's not real.
Speaker 1: She's not really dying or someone or whatever the funk
Speaker 1: happens in it. Like what I love about that, And
Speaker 1: Joel made Joe Ready made a really good point about
Speaker 1: this is you know, mid budget horror is where they
Speaker 1: can make these sort of creations, Like yeah, they're gonna
Speaker 1: put Socie in the lead. Like I don't think people
Speaker 1: knew her name like out there in Middle America. Like
Speaker 1: I think people maybe recognized her from Mara East Town
Speaker 1: or whatever, and maybe they know that she, you know,
Speaker 1: has famous parents or whatever. But like she was like
Speaker 1: an interesting, fun choice for smiles and now it's like
Speaker 1: she she's a movie star and another therapist. Hello, Hello,
Speaker 1: I'm so see. I met Socy years ago. Um, she
Speaker 1: was doing an like an off Broadway musical with Dave
Speaker 1: and she's got a great voice too, So there's lots
Speaker 1: of stuff hidden there. I embarrassed myself on the Today's Show.
Speaker 1: She was right across the stage from me, and I
Speaker 1: was like, they're so see, and I was like we
Speaker 1: went to school together. And then that was not factually correct.
Speaker 1: It's just that she knew Dave. Yeah, and I had
Speaker 1: assumed that I traced it. I interpolated too far into
Speaker 1: n y U Days and that's not what happened. Yes,
Speaker 1: So she she did an off broad musical with Dave
Speaker 1: Um with also Lauren Pritchard from Spring Awakening cast of
Speaker 1: Spring Awakening. That's how I met her, and she and
Speaker 1: David hit it off like right away and sort of
Speaker 1: like any friend of Dave's a friend of mine. So
Speaker 1: it's like she became like she's a very cool girl,
Speaker 1: and it's it's very awesome to see. Obviously we wanted Bros.
Speaker 1: To come out at number one, but like, it's pretty
Speaker 1: cool that Socie is the star of you know, Smiling
Speaker 1: in one movie. And I was saying about their marketing,
Speaker 1: did you see Um? I don't know. I was reading
Speaker 1: an article about like comparing the the the success of
Speaker 1: Smile with like the failure quote unquote of Bros. This weekend,
Speaker 1: and they were saying the way that Smile marketed their
Speaker 1: movie was really interesting, Like they hired I guess actors
Speaker 1: to sit behind the home plate at a baseball game
Speaker 1: and just smile like this the whole time, and the
Speaker 1: camera would pen in on them and was like, what's this.
Speaker 1: It looks like the people like behind home plate or
Speaker 1: have some sort of scary affliction. To find out about this,
Speaker 1: you better go see Smile this weekend. And that's the
Speaker 1: kind of marketing that I think is really clever, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, like, where where is the
Speaker 1: cleverness with this marketing? It can be fun, It can
Speaker 1: be fun. It can be fun. Just get out there,
Speaker 1: do something. Do something silly at a sports game. Period, Yeah,
Speaker 1: do something silly at a sports game. It's actually a
Speaker 1: really coach number three a period. Oh my god, it
Speaker 1: really is spooky season, but spooky season. And how before
Speaker 1: we get into spooky season, can quickly just ask you
Speaker 1: about your experience with Fasora, the b York album that
Speaker 1: just came out because you in the group chat with
Speaker 1: a bunch of York kads, Joshua Aaron Jackson had to
Speaker 1: rob me every now and then Burker loves York. I've
Speaker 1: I've always enjoyed York on a very like innocent, uninformed
Speaker 1: level my whole life. And then going to Iceland, I
Speaker 1: like it just you it feel like I had to
Speaker 1: listen to her and it and it all clicked and
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I'm listening to every single them
Speaker 1: start to finish and it all makes sense to me.
Speaker 1: And asked, I'm happy to answer any questions or address
Speaker 1: any concerns, but talk to me about your experience with
Speaker 1: a Sore, which is a tough album to get into
Speaker 1: with her. Yeah, So basically for all the readers, um,
Speaker 1: I am not really a your person, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you probably into it that if you
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast about me, like I don't I
Speaker 1: appreciate what she's doing. I get it, but I don't
Speaker 1: get it, you know what I mean, Like I can't
Speaker 1: listen to it, and like, really there's not really a
Speaker 1: place for me to land in it. But when I
Speaker 1: was tripping balls with my sisters in Fire Island, they
Speaker 1: actually Crystal Line. They played Crystal Line and they were
Speaker 1: sort of I don't really go very witchy on the dock.
Speaker 1: We were witchy. And then and then like at the
Speaker 1: end of Crystalline, she like has like a thousand drumbeats
Speaker 1: all converge at one completely insane, complete, and then we
Speaker 1: it all. It became a little mini mosh pet mosh
Speaker 1: moment and we were all like fucking like head bobbing
Speaker 1: head rock and it was euphoric and so that you
Speaker 1: were like, let me check this woman out, let's me
Speaker 1: check this girl out. Well, when I see all my
Speaker 1: dear girls enjoying my like I said, my my, my
Speaker 1: three older sisters and my two good little sisters enjoying
Speaker 1: m New York. So I was like, all right, let
Speaker 1: me just try to put it on. Yeah, and I'll say,
Speaker 1: you know how on Spotify, like you can put it on,
Speaker 1: but in the background there's like those images, yes, yes, canvas. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I had to turn it off because those images were
Speaker 1: very scary to me. It was like, yeah, the fun
Speaker 1: guy like some sort of like like a lava lamp
Speaker 1: fun guy moment, and just I it overwhelms me. But
Speaker 1: York overwhelms me. I completely understand that. First of all,
Speaker 1: canvas turn it off. I don't like it. It's distracting.
Speaker 1: When I listen to music on Spotify, I don't really
Speaker 1: care for the visuals most of the time. I just
Speaker 1: want to see the square and the picture. That's it.
Speaker 1: Second of all, to be overwhelmed by York is gay culture,
Speaker 1: gay culture, that's rule of culture. Yeah, what is that again?
Speaker 1: One hundred fifty fifty New York is gay culture. But
Speaker 1: that speak. But then once you accept that there is
Speaker 1: there are very few footholds in her music, then that's
Speaker 1: when you can sort of like completely rethink your your
Speaker 1: concept of pop music because she is she is considered
Speaker 1: a pop artist, you know, and so okay. Jason P.
Speaker 1: Frank actually wrote a great piece and Vulture about like
Speaker 1: how to access New York because she is inaccessible, but
Speaker 1: it seems like the people who really love her are
Speaker 1: like in on something. And it's that once you realize
Speaker 1: that it's meant to be boundary, lest that like there
Speaker 1: are no destructure, structure doesn't really exist in the same
Speaker 1: way as most pop music and melody and all this
Speaker 1: other stuff, like it can be a little fun. And
Speaker 1: then I think maybe start with Chris Vespertine, which is like,
Speaker 1: it's g she's a genius because when invest Suppertin came out, um,
Speaker 1: she it's a lot of like icy sounds. It's a
Speaker 1: lot of and it's like she that was very intentional
Speaker 1: because it's right when Napster was big, and right when
Speaker 1: the MP three's were like a concept and introduced into
Speaker 1: the world and people were downloading music, and she was like,
Speaker 1: I need to sonically make this album about even if
Speaker 1: you download it a million different times, and the quality
Speaker 1: of the audio is completely bastardized and diminished, like once
Speaker 1: it lands in people's computers or whatever c ds, like,
Speaker 1: it should still sound like the same. Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Like the sounds are very sharp and so therefore that
Speaker 1: that sort of resolution in the in the sound is
Speaker 1: maintained no matter how many times it's downloaded. Like she
Speaker 1: like is so she's incredibly forward thinking. Yeah, she she
Speaker 1: really is, And I do get that's that's part of it.
Speaker 1: Part of it that I get is I understand that
Speaker 1: she wants the listener to have a different type of
Speaker 1: experience than someone who is following a pop structure. Would
Speaker 1: I guess for me, I'm just such a I'm actually
Speaker 1: such a structure person when it comes to film, television, music,
Speaker 1: Like I actually think the structures of all of these
Speaker 1: things make it exciting because I like to see someone.
Speaker 1: I like to see someone experiment within a structure. And
Speaker 1: then when something is sort of structure list or follows
Speaker 1: its own structure rather to not sound so pejorative, it's
Speaker 1: more of a leap for me because I'm I'm waiting
Speaker 1: for the structure. It's just like there's like a rhythm
Speaker 1: that I'm like waiting for whereas with her, I actually
Speaker 1: was laughing hysterical at the end of Crystal Line, because
Speaker 1: essentially it sounds like chaos, like a volcanic eruption. Yes,
Speaker 1: it sounds like destruction in a way where I was like, actually, like,
Speaker 1: this is hilarious to me, and I think that, yeah,
Speaker 1: there has to be like it has to come from
Speaker 1: a place of humor in some way because it's so crazy,
Speaker 1: and it felt like my body had been tossed around
Speaker 1: in a million directions and therefore, so I had my
Speaker 1: emotions and I was like, Okay, I understand that that
Speaker 1: was the intended response. I just don't know that I
Speaker 1: could like it's it surprises me that so many people
Speaker 1: listen to her so much. Well, she started out like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, she's just she's so funny, so you should.
Speaker 1: So this podcast came out pretty recently where she like
Speaker 1: each episode is her talking about the album and the
Speaker 1: really interesting interviews, and her whole thing is that you
Speaker 1: would think that York is very like high brower, that
Speaker 1: like the people who listened to her are like, oh,
Speaker 1: like incredibly sophisticated or whatever. But she's always been like,
Speaker 1: my music is for everyone. It's not for like, it's
Speaker 1: not for like quote unquote like educated people, like like
Speaker 1: snop music. It's not for music stops, it's for everyone.
Speaker 1: And then she goes um. When she first started out,
Speaker 1: she came from this you know, punk band, Sugarcubes, and
Speaker 1: then she went so hello, and when she went solo,
Speaker 1: she was like, I felt like people were limiting me.
Speaker 1: And she goes um as a woman, like if your
Speaker 1: solo artist as a woman, like people trying to like
Speaker 1: box you in, blah blah blah blah blah. But then
Speaker 1: she puts it in the best place. She goes, I
Speaker 1: didn't want to be smurf fat. I wanted to be
Speaker 1: all the Smurfs. And she's so funny and and this
Speaker 1: has been helpful for me. All of Gaga's cookiness is
Speaker 1: just like a water down thing that York has done
Speaker 1: in the past. Some might say, why has this been
Speaker 1: helpful for you? Because it's like I love I will,
Speaker 1: I love everything Gaga has ever done. And I think
Speaker 1: Gaga is as inspired by Madonna as she is by York.
Speaker 1: And like the visuals being like so crazy, especially early
Speaker 1: on when she was wearing like Crimit the frog dresses,
Speaker 1: like that's like you know, like the Swan dress is iconic, yes,
Speaker 1: and York is just like York just gets it. She's
Speaker 1: just like doesn't take it seriously. Icelandic through and through
Speaker 1: the Icelandic people are just so like wonderfully unflappable as
Speaker 1: a and I feel like that's as an artist. You know.
Speaker 1: What's interesting is like you mentioned the Swan dress, and
Speaker 1: I also think the reason why I'm sort of like, um,
Speaker 1: I had never thought she was for me is because
Speaker 1: when the Swan dress happened, and when her performance on
Speaker 1: the Oscar stuff I've seen it all from day was
Speaker 1: ridiculous happened. I remember sitting there, I was I think
Speaker 1: it was nine, yeah, and so I was watching it
Speaker 1: and I had just become familiar with the Oscars basically
Speaker 1: through the phin phenomenon of Titanic, right, and so by
Speaker 1: proxy my heart will go on. And the type of
Speaker 1: music I was like told was very good, was very
Speaker 1: you know, very structured and stuff like that. And so
Speaker 1: the type of glamour I was also told or like
Speaker 1: how you look at a red carpet was also like
Speaker 1: very clearly telegraphed to like a seven eight nine year
Speaker 1: old me. And then hair comes Bork with the Swan,
Speaker 1: which was full on Swan's body wrapped around her damn
Speaker 1: neck in a tutu, and then she went out in
Speaker 1: that outfit, no costume changed, and performed one of the
Speaker 1: strangest songs I ever heard, in such a manner that
Speaker 1: I had never seen before. And I remember turning to
Speaker 1: my mom and being like, this is terrible. This is terrible. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this is terrible, right, and like she was on all
Speaker 1: the worst dress list because no one got it. Now,
Speaker 1: in my adulthood, not get the Swan dress. I think
Speaker 1: it's so funny and good, but also that performance of
Speaker 1: that song and that song are so hunting and beautiful,
Speaker 1: and I just never could have gotten it, as like
Speaker 1: a little idiot toled by the media that this is
Speaker 1: weird and stupid, and like weird and stupid equals bad,
Speaker 1: So like hate this, hate York. She's wild and from Iceland.
Speaker 1: And now as an adult, I'm like, okay, wait, there's
Speaker 1: so much more here than I ever would have thought,
Speaker 1: and probably that song should have won the Oscar? Oh
Speaker 1: what did when? Do you remember? What did when the Oscar?
Speaker 1: That year? I think it was a song from I
Speaker 1: think it was like God it was bout Dylan. That's right,
Speaker 1: It was a bob Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. But
Speaker 1: I feel like York is just a beautiful, rich meal
Speaker 1: and anytime it's there for you, anytime there's no shelf
Speaker 1: life on it. Um, it's non perish. It's a beautiful,
Speaker 1: non perishable meal. Like like all all of the albums
Speaker 1: hold up. It's like canna beans. It's like canna beans
Speaker 1: but delicious. Speaking of beans, have you seen like so online,
Speaker 1: like you know how like there was like this um
Speaker 1: like everyone was obsessed with a while with Courtney Take
Speaker 1: Your Break from the new one that's going around is
Speaker 1: it's just so funny. Well, it started with people sending
Speaker 1: around the Stephanie clip like Stephanie j Block fully belts
Speaker 1: it out, very fiercely, belt it out and stuff. But
Speaker 1: like I saw a super cut recently of like high
Speaker 1: school girls singing Beas and honestly, it's hard because the
Speaker 1: like the ju that vowel is hard to like, so
Speaker 1: it's hard to get up there, like it's hard to
Speaker 1: it's just it's a hard vocal. And then the beans,
Speaker 1: it's just like it's just like not an easy part
Speaker 1: of that song to sing. So of course we've heard
Speaker 1: Sarah Barella's do it like gleas and do it, and
Speaker 1: you know, like all these people do it that have
Speaker 1: been able to do it because they've done it professionally.
Speaker 1: But watching these high school girls try to do it
Speaker 1: is so funny because you can tell it's just like
Speaker 1: flam link in the dark, like laser tag with no gone,
Speaker 1: just like that vibe like completely lost shooting at nothing
Speaker 1: like flailing in the sky. But that's the one that
Speaker 1: has been sort of violently and I recommend you, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna do it. It's that's the beauty even Into the
Speaker 1: Woods too, is that it's the most easily you know,
Speaker 1: amountable for high schools for like a young cast and therefore,
Speaker 1: like you just there's just so much like goodness there
Speaker 1: and like innocence there, and like they only do the
Speaker 1: first half. That's right, Yeah, they stopped the high schools do.
Speaker 1: I don't know if readers know that. They probably do,
Speaker 1: but like high schools don't do the second half Into
Speaker 1: the Woods for their musicals and stuff. The Giant is tough. Well,
Speaker 1: it's just it's a little substantial, you understand. They don't
Speaker 1: want to see that. The The Baker's wife gets stopped all
Speaker 1: the way out, which spoiler alert she does spoiler alert um,
Speaker 1: speaking of the sun time of it all, this pod
Speaker 1: has continues to be predict the future. What do you
Speaker 1: mean when we said we wanted to see a big
Speaker 1: budget tweeny todd Oh yeah and low and be ho,
Speaker 1: we're getting Josh Groban and Emily I think it'll be
Speaker 1: great piece orchestra. And they're both committed for a year.
Speaker 1: I also have heard this, but but when we were
Speaker 1: you we are talking about how like Beanie was committed
Speaker 1: for six months. I don't know how long she was committed,
Speaker 1: but basically, like I mean, they're human beings, like they
Speaker 1: can do whatever. Like when you're under contract, no one's
Speaker 1: gonna put gun to your head and be like you
Speaker 1: have to do this ship. But like I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, like I would I would imagine that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would imagine that Beanie was contracted longer than she
Speaker 1: did the show, but then it was like not a
Speaker 1: tenable situation for her are their production and so they
Speaker 1: probably let her go early, especially because it happened so quickly.
Speaker 1: I'm very excited, I will say, And this could be
Speaker 1: and I don't think so honey, but I won't do
Speaker 1: that either. Um, I try to get Today was when
Speaker 1: the tickets were dropping premarriily. We were along at York
Speaker 1: Theater Workshop starring Jonathan Groffin, Daniel rad Cleff and and
Speaker 1: and and a wonderful cast. Um, but I gosh could
Speaker 1: not do it. And I set an alarm. I was
Speaker 1: on it the minute the clock struck twelve. Couldn't do it,
Speaker 1: and so they sold out, sold out within Like I
Speaker 1: was in the queue for like twelve twenty minutes and
Speaker 1: then like it just booted me. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh no, what a bummer. Yeah, it's hard to buy
Speaker 1: tickets online. You know what. What what they say is
Speaker 1: always call because nobody but the New York Theater Workshop
Speaker 1: website says, do not call us, do not calls. To
Speaker 1: do it through the website. And I was like, well shit, okay,
Speaker 1: Well then you know what, if it's going to be
Speaker 1: a mandate that we do with the website, then the
Speaker 1: websites have to be prepared to handle that kind of traffic,
Speaker 1: and they have to be prepared to like I mean,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous, like these websites have to you know, gotta
Speaker 1: get you gotta get it together. Gotta get together. It's
Speaker 1: like with be Real, it's like okay, like let's like
Speaker 1: let's like make this usable and have the the pictures upload, mama,
Speaker 1: if it's gonna be But it's time to be real.
Speaker 1: When I flip open the app, why am I waiting
Speaker 1: to get the option to take my picture? Just give
Speaker 1: me an option to take my picture now, honey, it's
Speaker 1: time for you. You're telling me it's time to be real.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you it's time to be functional. Culture number thirty,
Speaker 1: It's time to be real real, It's time for you
Speaker 1: to functional. I don't think that you're just gonna mention
Speaker 1: be real and may not bring up your startling and
Speaker 1: and and startling salient sketch. It made salient points. All
Speaker 1: my all my work is startling and salient. There's a
Speaker 1: rumor online about the lost culture is this bit to
Speaker 1: SNL sketch pipeline? But what is that? I don't think
Speaker 1: there are that many examples. There's been a couple of
Speaker 1: times where it seems like something that was time. It
Speaker 1: has been been at times. It has been at times,
Speaker 1: um no, that was I mean that was purely inspired
Speaker 1: by like the conversations that like we've had on this
Speaker 1: Like I literally found out what be Real was on
Speaker 1: this podcast, um, and then I pitched it to Celeste.
Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, it's a bank robbery and then
Speaker 1: the real goes off and they were like that's they
Speaker 1: were like, okay. I was like, I think the PDD
Speaker 1: boys had a similar idea where it happens in surgery,
Speaker 1: and I was like, okay, that's funny too. And then
Speaker 1: we all met up and we were like we just
Speaker 1: all kind of talked it down and it was so
Speaker 1: fun and god like, the boys were great. Selust was great,
Speaker 1: directed by new director um Tim will Kim and wonderful
Speaker 1: it was. It was, it was very fun. I thought
Speaker 1: Myles was great. I thought Myles Teller was a great host.
Speaker 1: Miles is fun and my boy was that freshman dorm
Speaker 1: was third North wait really and yeah, and then he
Speaker 1: was at Lafayette and it's been a big n my
Speaker 1: U week for me because then went I went to graduate.
Speaker 1: He was like he was like two thousand nine, but
Speaker 1: we overlapped with him. He was Strasbourg. Oh so yeah,
Speaker 1: he must have been a school when we were so yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we were there he must have been there's been
Speaker 1: graduated nine okay, yeah, he must have been a freshman
Speaker 1: senior when we were freshman anyway, and then they did
Speaker 1: Today's Show with Jacob sober Off and he was like,
Speaker 1: I was at Haydn and then now it's called something else.
Speaker 1: Remember he's very cute. He's very cute, is he? G
Speaker 1: A y No, he's not very h E T E
Speaker 1: r oh Okay yeah yeah, yeah, sorry to this man.
Speaker 1: Sorry to this man. Um. For some reason, maybe this
Speaker 1: is the year of me like coming to terms with
Speaker 1: my n y U e LAM identity because I kind
Speaker 1: of I've kind of blocked it out for several years
Speaker 1: before this. I just every now and then I'll be like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I went to that school. Okay, I forget that I
Speaker 1: went there until I remember, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: it's it's so funny to have gone to college there,
Speaker 1: because I guess like when you go to n y
Speaker 1: U was just sort of like like you're just in
Speaker 1: New York City and so that kind of is the vibe.
Speaker 1: But I don't know, the city is your campus even period.
Speaker 1: Here at n y U, the city is your campus. God,
Speaker 1: should we go back and do like a corny asps
Speaker 1: a or no, never accept money from them. No, I
Speaker 1: don't want to accept money from them. Sorry, and I'm
Speaker 1: never giving you money. Stopped sending me this a lum bullshit.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's so funny to me. It's like, you
Speaker 1: don't you have more than enough from me, Thank you
Speaker 1: very much. I'm not giving you a shilling. You're not
Speaker 1: gonna from Matt Rodgers, are there? There's an exciting development. Um.
Speaker 1: I will say is that you and my and are good.
Speaker 1: Judy Joel can Booster competed on Celebrity Jeopardy recently and
Speaker 1: the episode will be coming out and I didn't compete
Speaker 1: against Joe Kim No, that's right. But we taped episodes
Speaker 1: on the same day. I think I can say that,
Speaker 1: and I can't say how it went, but I can
Speaker 1: say that it's going to be a good content and
Speaker 1: it watch the whole episode, four episodes. Honestly, it was
Speaker 1: really fun. Um. I had a nice little conversation with
Speaker 1: Miam Biolic. Yes, I actually I told her. I was like,
Speaker 1: I was like, you had a podcast episode with Kelly
Speaker 1: Clarkson that was like so good because they Kelly Clarkson
Speaker 1: was on Miam's podcast and it was like such a good,
Speaker 1: honest episode of it was giving good podcast and I
Speaker 1: had to tell her. I was like I really enjoyed that,
Speaker 1: and she was very nice and lovely. I will say,
Speaker 1: when you are on Jeopardy, which is like so surreal,
Speaker 1: like it's so crazy, it's such a beautiful stage, like
Speaker 1: it's like and like I can't say who I competed against.
Speaker 1: It was a really fun group and you do think like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, like to watch Alex Trebec stomp out
Speaker 1: here and do it like so majestic, like he really was,
Speaker 1: so he had the gravitas. And one thing I loved
Speaker 1: about Mayam was she didn't come out beforehand to like
Speaker 1: say hi, how are you? Thank you for doing this?
Speaker 1: It was just we saw her for the first time
Speaker 1: live on the day she came out and hit the
Speaker 1: podium and then started the game, and I was like, yes,
Speaker 1: I thought that was actually like I was like, I
Speaker 1: was like absolutely, I was like say hi to us,
Speaker 1: you're the host of the period. And then I did
Speaker 1: think like wow, what the added nerves it must have
Speaker 1: been to have like tripbec like stalk out there and
Speaker 1: that tall drink of water and like do it like,
Speaker 1: oh my god. But like I said, I had an
Speaker 1: amazing time. It's it's a sophisticated show, and that it
Speaker 1: is like I would only ever host a game show
Speaker 1: if it well I'm saying not that, I'm saying I
Speaker 1: would only host a game show if it was like
Speaker 1: if it wasn't like, hey, here we are playing this,
Speaker 1: I would only host a game shop it was like
Speaker 1: welcome to the game show and here we go, you know,
Speaker 1: like that kind of thing. And I think maybe the
Speaker 1: play is about that. I think the play is about
Speaker 1: a game show that's very like by it and like
Speaker 1: low frequencies that we're going to do. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: just think like there's something there. And then like, is
Speaker 1: it a play where you play the host and I
Speaker 1: play the contestant and I challenge your conceptions of what
Speaker 1: you thought the game was. I think it's write this down.
Speaker 1: I think this is a good tention with the tick,
Speaker 1: with the sort of young gravy tick to believe we're
Speaker 1: gonna write two movies. How does he challenge your conception
Speaker 1: of your quiet game that you host them. It's not
Speaker 1: about the game, you know, the game is always gonna
Speaker 1: be quiet, Okay, no, it's okay. Well you obviously the
Speaker 1: obviously like the sort of let's just say this is
Speaker 1: not the right usage of the term, but the Chekhov's
Speaker 1: gun is that like, at one point I yell and
Speaker 1: things get loud and people scream and like, and then
Speaker 1: that disrupts the entire sort of like equilibrium of the thing,
Speaker 1: where it's like, this is supposed to be a quiet game,
Speaker 1: So why are we why are we yelling? And like
Speaker 1: that's when the audience gets nervous, you know. So maybe
Speaker 1: it's that you have a pomp and circumstance. M hmm.
Speaker 1: Way to say it, Yeah, you you have, you have
Speaker 1: a dignity and serenity around this game. And then when
Speaker 1: someone comes in and challenges that, that's when the play begins.
Speaker 1: And the play is the thing. The play is the thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like, I'm I'm not tripping here, am I Like?
Speaker 1: That sounds like a really solid piece of player. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a huge commercial play. I never said commercial. No,
Speaker 1: and it is. It's going to be really important because
Speaker 1: when people buy tickets to this big commercial play, they're
Speaker 1: also buying tickets to two gay men on stage together.
Speaker 1: It's a story you can't do that. It's a story now, man,
Speaker 1: you have to What are you gonna do? Not laugh
Speaker 1: because they save me from crying? No, um, I think no,
Speaker 1: this is the plan. Literally, the the venue idea is
Speaker 1: New York Theater Workshops, so that we're there and then
Speaker 1: I get to go up to the people who run
Speaker 1: the damn website and go change the ticketing system. Twenty
Speaker 1: years ago, I couldn't buy tickets to Merrily. Why do
Speaker 1: you think this is gonna happen in twenty years? I
Speaker 1: don't know, because places takes our art takes a long time,
Speaker 1: because years art takes a long time. Yeah. Ak, that's
Speaker 1: bones nice way of saying I'm too fucking booked to
Speaker 1: do a play. Um what else? What else? I? Um? Housewives?
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well the Salt Lake girls are sucking back.
Speaker 1: Let's just say that. And in a moment too soon,
Speaker 1: did you enjoy the premiere? Because I know that you
Speaker 1: sort of you dragged your feet with salt Like not really,
Speaker 1: I just the trailer just didn't hit me. Maybe I
Speaker 1: was just not in a good, in the right mindset
Speaker 1: for the trailer when it came out, But I was like,
Speaker 1: this looks fine, and like the whole black guy. I think,
Speaker 1: like Heather's black eye. I'm like, she fell Okay, no
Speaker 1: one hit her, she fell down. Hit her, fucking I
Speaker 1: sock it on, you know, a banister the end, Like,
Speaker 1: let's not draw this out. But UM like that maybe
Speaker 1: like bugged me the entire time. I'm like, why are
Speaker 1: we pretending anyway? Um, It's wonderful. I'm so glad these
Speaker 1: these women are back. I was watching it at work
Speaker 1: with the last um and they were like, Heather's the
Speaker 1: only one. And I was like, I guess no wrong,
Speaker 1: I said, and then push their head. Yeah, okay, what
Speaker 1: do you think? What do you think Heather is not
Speaker 1: the only one? Okay, So this is this is my
Speaker 1: This is my take on the first episode of Salta
Speaker 1: City Housewives O. One. Lisa Barlow is a one of
Speaker 1: a kind creature for television and her walking in with
Speaker 1: her diet coke, she now like knows what she's doing
Speaker 1: enough to the cup to her head. Yeah yeah. And
Speaker 1: I think that she is kind in the sense that
Speaker 1: she makes things happen in the show without it being
Speaker 1: like I'm producing. She just kind of put herself in
Speaker 1: situations where they get emotionally heated and we have to
Speaker 1: respect that, like her crying breaking down to Seth at
Speaker 1: the end of the episode when Meredith wouldn't even turn
Speaker 1: her back at the end, that that to me was
Speaker 1: the Housewives that I like, that's like and it's honest. Yes,
Speaker 1: it feels real, and it feels based on something crazy
Speaker 1: that that a person would do like and and I
Speaker 1: just I love that. I think that everything Meredith is
Speaker 1: saying about Lisa and these rumors about her cheating and
Speaker 1: doing sexual favors in order to get you to tequila
Speaker 1: in certain establishments is I don't I don't believe it,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it's not very Is that not
Speaker 1: very produced? Like Meredith trying to produce. I understand why
Speaker 1: she's doing it, and I almost think there is a
Speaker 1: hidden point to doing it, which is see, look, I
Speaker 1: can just say any fucking thing too, because I also
Speaker 1: don't believe that Meredith fucked half of New York, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean. But Lisa got to just say that,
Speaker 1: and then it gets to be out there and Meredith
Speaker 1: feels with the strife. Well guess what, bitch, I can
Speaker 1: say whatever I fucking want to, and people can decide
Speaker 1: whether or not it's true. How do you like it? So?
Speaker 1: I do think it is a while. It's a wild response,
Speaker 1: and it's like it decidedly engaged for spons and I
Speaker 1: don't think it's true. I understand the intent of her
Speaker 1: doing it. Yes, now read Heather, this is where I
Speaker 1: pushed the last head. Yeah, well what's the last They
Speaker 1: can hit me back? Okay. I challenged the last to
Speaker 1: a fight only only upper body kicks, no kicks. And
Speaker 1: they're lucky because I have a very strong leg, long
Speaker 1: and powerful, long, powerful chat leg um. Heather got absolutely
Speaker 1: smoked in her first scene by Whitney because when the
Speaker 1: entire narrative has been the church is so hard, like
Speaker 1: I'm such a bad Mormon, like leaving the church stressed
Speaker 1: because of the church again today, like what about my
Speaker 1: daughters in the church, like my parents in the church,
Speaker 1: like me and the church, the church, the church. Whitney
Speaker 1: comes in and she's like, guess what, Mama, I'm taking
Speaker 1: myself off the fucking mailing list. I'm not even getting
Speaker 1: into Heaven. I'm owing to hell officially. I printed out
Speaker 1: a document that says I'm being damned and I'm going
Speaker 1: to sign it. And Heather was just like okay, And
Speaker 1: I bet she feels some type of way about the
Speaker 1: fact that Whitney is living out the storyline in a
Speaker 1: more explicit interesting way than Heather actually can, because at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Heather can't like woman up
Speaker 1: enough to get herself off that registry. She doesn't. Yeah,
Speaker 1: perhaps this is the first grain seed whatever into their
Speaker 1: conflict with the rest of the season. I think it's
Speaker 1: something because I don't think I think if we're going
Speaker 1: to set the whole thing up with Whitney and how
Speaker 1: the I have a falling out and then this is
Speaker 1: going to be the first thing we open on them doing,
Speaker 1: I think that it must be a thing. Yeah, Whitney
Speaker 1: is just doing this because she doesn't want to just
Speaker 1: you know, have a door knock and it's the fucking church. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're just check in where's the money. I get it.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm on her side. I wouldn't want to be
Speaker 1: bothered either. And I also think like, and we always
Speaker 1: say this about how the when the reunions roll around,
Speaker 1: but she seems extremely high on her own supply reunions,
Speaker 1: And it's just interesting because I feel like, and maybe
Speaker 1: this is harsh, but I think she left the church,
Speaker 1: but she's still just as righteous. I think she's still
Speaker 1: just as judgmental and righteous as she always was, because
Speaker 1: I think maybe she's not a member of the church,
Speaker 1: but she's still someone that was formed by that church,
Speaker 1: and her personality was heavily informed by the experience of
Speaker 1: being a religious Mormon and the way that she treats
Speaker 1: other people, the way that she's sort of and you'll
Speaker 1: notice that the thing she says about other women is,
Speaker 1: you don't treat me right. You you talk down to me,
Speaker 1: like you disregard me. You do this to me, you
Speaker 1: do this to me. But I feel she does that
Speaker 1: to other people and her she only thinks in terms
Speaker 1: of status, I feel, which is interesting because I don't
Speaker 1: know how you feel and we haven't even spoken about.
Speaker 1: But this ally ship that Heather and Meredith still have
Speaker 1: with Jen, I don't think it's doing what they think
Speaker 1: it's doing it. I don't look at that and think, Wow,
Speaker 1: what good friends, right are dying with Jen? I think, guys,
Speaker 1: there's real victims here, Like this isn't even an Erica
Speaker 1: Jane thing, and the Beverly Hills women really do give
Speaker 1: ever Erica a harder time than these talt like city women.
Speaker 1: Give jen who's actually responsible for these people directly? You
Speaker 1: know whatever? I mean what Coach Shaw is an interesting
Speaker 1: character in all of this, I think. But watching Jen Shaw,
Speaker 1: the woman the person just like crumble in this way
Speaker 1: slowly and where they're on the vine, I go, oh,
Speaker 1: this is this ain't good and this is this is
Speaker 1: not ending well and we all know where this is headed,
Speaker 1: which is the guilty plea. But to watch her in
Speaker 1: the first episode be like, I'm not taking the plea
Speaker 1: deal Like, it's so like, oh, this fucking, this fucking person.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I wonder how they're going to make
Speaker 1: it interesting and compelling for an entire season. We we
Speaker 1: know she's going to be like, I'm mendicinea and minnicinea
Speaker 1: and medicine. Yet we know she's guilty and that she
Speaker 1: admits to guilt. So it's essentially just going to be
Speaker 1: us watching her gas slide and her friends all year,
Speaker 1: and ultimately I guess what's going to be interesting about
Speaker 1: it is how they land knowing this is true? Right?
Speaker 1: Oh remind me um. The episode started in in a
Speaker 1: beautiful sort of artistic display of editing, Like I feel
Speaker 1: like the way it was edited was wonderful, true prime Well,
Speaker 1: it was like these like you know whatever, like desaturated
Speaker 1: shots of like the women being like it's how they're being, like,
Speaker 1: my friendship with Whitney is as strong as ever, and
Speaker 1: then it cuts to like, is oh it was the
Speaker 1: first season confessionals, right, That's what it was, and it's
Speaker 1: just like this is all being completely turned on its head.
Speaker 1: Every single thing these women, like, all these things that
Speaker 1: each of these women are saying will be completely and
Speaker 1: the foundations of all these characters is yes, beautiful way
Speaker 1: to start this season. I'm so excited. I'm pumped. I'm pumped.
Speaker 1: And so that that did what the trailer was trying
Speaker 1: to do, I think, which is to like excite me.
Speaker 1: And I'm glad they saved it for the actual episode
Speaker 1: because now I'm like, I can't wait to see how
Speaker 1: this turns out. This weekend is the premiere of Potomac.
Speaker 1: I can't wait. And I've seen it Lucky fool, and
Speaker 1: it is delivering. And I will say, it feels like
Speaker 1: Bravo has realized Potomac is that girl. Yes, And because
Speaker 1: they got new outfits for the like um intro, they
Speaker 1: it's leveled up, Like I can't tell you, Like, there's
Speaker 1: just a there's a quality to it. There's an awareness.
Speaker 1: There's an awareness. There's an awareness, and it's like it's
Speaker 1: almost like they've they've been like, okay, girls, you can
Speaker 1: be the girls now. But that's and I'm so glad
Speaker 1: they're finally getting rewarded because five out of seven of
Speaker 1: those women are original season one people, like the retention
Speaker 1: on that on that show is remarkable. For seven seasons,
Speaker 1: five of these women have stayed, is it? Is it? Karen, Giselle, Ashley, Robin,
Speaker 1: and um Are might just be four, it's four, and
Speaker 1: then Sharie is now and so that's five, and then
Speaker 1: there's obviously Wendy, Candice and Miya. And the only person
Speaker 1: who's like out completely is Monique correct. So yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: So honestly, which is I think why some of these
Speaker 1: other franchises aren't feeling as successful anymore is because it
Speaker 1: feels like we either lost the core group or the
Speaker 1: core group lost it. I think in the case of
Speaker 1: New York, the core group lost it, whereas like, you know,
Speaker 1: and the core group is gone, and now it's just
Speaker 1: like are they friends? Like would these women ever hang
Speaker 1: out like I don't. I can't answer that. The Potomac,
Speaker 1: I'm like, the lines are clearly drawn, and it's fun
Speaker 1: to have those lines be completely like erased. To have
Speaker 1: Candice and Ashley team up this season is so exciting
Speaker 1: to me. These two women fucking hate each other truly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: every single one of the characters on the show starts
Speaker 1: off with a really strong storyline right away, like it's
Speaker 1: it's and I'm I mean across the board, like there's
Speaker 1: no one that After the first episode of Potomac, you're like,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have a week season. Everyone is set up
Speaker 1: for an incredibly strong season, I would say, especially Ashley, Like,
Speaker 1: like Ashley, it's about her and um, there's still so
Speaker 1: much places to go with that storyline, and there's so
Speaker 1: much discussion to be had about how she's handling it
Speaker 1: because it is not what you think. It's not a
Speaker 1: one to one like it's a divorce, Like it's complicated,
Speaker 1: and they're all going to have very interesting opinions on it.
Speaker 1: And Yeah, I'm just excited for you to see it.
Speaker 1: Because also I won't spoil anything, but one of the
Speaker 1: women has a very interesting connection with a character from
Speaker 1: another franchise, which is really good. This is all episode one. Wow. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we can talk about it more next week or not.
Speaker 1: We have but but Potomacs giving and salt Like, salt
Speaker 1: Like and Potomac and at the same time that is
Speaker 1: supremacy were eating and hopefully the union of Beverly Hills
Speaker 1: would give. Yes, um I Wilson, I'm just manifesting this.
Speaker 1: Would love to have a Candice of Karen on the pod.
Speaker 1: It's very soon, yeah, I mean that would be fab
Speaker 1: And also another thing is we have to have Casey
Speaker 1: and Danielle on Oh my god. We keep saying, I
Speaker 1: just course Danielle, I just Dan with daniel I think
Speaker 1: we want to do it in like a month, So
Speaker 1: like when the when the Beverly Hills reunion is wrapping up,
Speaker 1: Slash Salt Lake and Potomac get going a little bit more,
Speaker 1: we'll have a perfect I love it before winter, love that,
Speaker 1: love that. Oh, I can't wait. This is I don't
Speaker 1: think so, honey. This is our segments we do every episode.
Speaker 1: It's our one minute rant on something that is really
Speaker 1: grinding our gears and pop culture. Matt, do you have something, um,
Speaker 1: you know what's funny? I was just I was just
Speaker 1: you know, when I watched a bunch of episodes of
Speaker 1: Last Night the Voice, and I was like looking for it.
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey in the voice, and I
Speaker 1: have to say, there's still no I don't think so
Speaker 1: honey about the voice except maybe too many country singers.
Speaker 1: But Kamia Cabello is giving. And you know what I
Speaker 1: noticed about Carson Daly, he really gets excited with the
Speaker 1: families when the when the people get the chair turned
Speaker 1: for them, He's like a little nerd. So I thought,
Speaker 1: maybe what I do it? I don't think so honey
Speaker 1: about the voice, but I won't and I'm gonna do
Speaker 1: the other thing. I had an idea. Thank you for
Speaker 1: letting us speak into that, because the voice is just good. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The flying undestions anyway, can't poke holes? Okay, this is
Speaker 1: Matt Rodgers. I don't think so many. As time starts down,
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. The spelling of the word fusia,
Speaker 1: so fusia spelled like this, f you c h s H.
Speaker 1: I M already lost the threat. It's what is it?
Speaker 1: What is no? No? I don't know you f U
Speaker 1: s c H I M no so it's Fusha should
Speaker 1: be spelled like this, let's just just go with me.
Speaker 1: Future should be spelled like this. Fu s c h right,
Speaker 1: Future it should be spelled like that. It's spelled like this.
Speaker 1: Fux it's like few fuc h is a few, sort
Speaker 1: of like Florence pu pu g h. But but even
Speaker 1: that is more clear than fusha. I just feel like
Speaker 1: you're asking for kids to be traumatized in a spelling
Speaker 1: be by spelling this a ward like this, and that's
Speaker 1: cruelty and that's blaying. You're not thinking about the children,
Speaker 1: and we have to think about the children much more.
Speaker 1: I don't think the spelling of fusha. You're tripping up
Speaker 1: six graders everywhere, and this thirty two year old man,
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. And that's one minute. This
Speaker 1: all him about because I was wearing a future suit
Speaker 1: to an event the other night. You look gorgeous at
Speaker 1: the I think the Equality Awards, you and Joel and Torreon,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, we're giving me a quality award, Visibility Awards,
Speaker 1: Sister Support. You guys all look so good. Thank you. Um,
Speaker 1: and you were there in spirit winning the award as well. Um.
Speaker 1: But anyway, I was like, wow, I wore fusha and
Speaker 1: I went to spell it, and it took me so
Speaker 1: long to find the correct spelling of fusha. And then
Speaker 1: I was like, what is the etymology of this one? Honey, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: what is it? Let's look it up. Let's look it up.
Speaker 1: Fusa okay. So now I'm seeing the spelling is f
Speaker 1: U C H S I A, which tell me twice? Okay,
Speaker 1: what's the langue? What's the language? Or fusa okay. Fusia
Speaker 1: colory fusia language origin. Fuchsia is a vivid, pinkish purplesh
Speaker 1: red color named after the color of the flower of
Speaker 1: the fuchsia plant, which was named by a French botanist,
Speaker 1: Charles Plumier after the sixteenth century German botanist Leonard Fuchs.
Speaker 1: Want some letters to use, No, this isn't helping. I
Speaker 1: need to German. It must be a German word because
Speaker 1: because it was named H S U C H s
Speaker 1: is not us but whatever. I have a serious problem
Speaker 1: with the spelling of this word, and it's it's such
Speaker 1: a shame because such a beautiful color color, people are
Speaker 1: afraid of it because of the spelling. I really do
Speaker 1: think so can I ask you a question. Was that
Speaker 1: suit Fusia? Yes, it was okay. Thanks for all the
Speaker 1: readers that don't know. I suffer with color blindness. It's
Speaker 1: actually a fact that when my Wikipedia a little bit
Speaker 1: legit though it's so funny, it was like personal life,
Speaker 1: Rogers is gay, having come out at n N y U,
Speaker 1: he is color blind. Um, it's something about me that
Speaker 1: you need to know. Oh, if you're gonna love me,
Speaker 1: you need to accept me. If you're gonna love me,
Speaker 1: you need to look. Is this a good song? Yes,
Speaker 1: if you want to love me, you need to accept me.
Speaker 1: I think there's something interesting about the interval interval of
Speaker 1: you need to it's me. It's it's the phrasing of
Speaker 1: you to acampt me. It's like, you want to love me?
Speaker 1: That is so true. Sometimes I can do. This is
Speaker 1: what makes me the opposite of Bjork. It's because I
Speaker 1: say the truth right alect she hides behind it. She
Speaker 1: actually doesn't, She actually doesn't. She's very honest. She she
Speaker 1: says the truth. Don't you ever accused the York of
Speaker 1: that ever? Again? I've learned my lesson. All right, are
Speaker 1: you ready to do you? I don't think so, honey, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, this is Yang and this is who. I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, and it's time starts now. I
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. The first visual from Renaissance being
Speaker 1: a Tiffany commercial. It's been two months. We need something
Speaker 1: besides that beautiful trailer for I'm that girl. I know
Speaker 1: that Beyonce loves to edge us and we love her.
Speaker 1: We love her for it, and she really can do
Speaker 1: no wrong. She cannot. She really cannot funk this up
Speaker 1: except I'm down for her, like taking long breaks in
Speaker 1: between projects, but when the project is out and for
Speaker 1: her to still do this when she teaches visuals, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's tough on me, it's testing my patients. And
Speaker 1: I will wait as long as I need to for her.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I went on the Type under Land
Speaker 1: Beyonce boat. It was the best. It was excellent, and
Speaker 1: everyone on the Saturday one at least that I was on,
Speaker 1: just was with every single word and note and fantastic.
Speaker 1: The only non Beyonce song he played was do It
Speaker 1: by Holley and Chloe Chloe Alley and you know, um,
Speaker 1: but oh my god, please give us a music video something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's one minute and I will say that I do agree.
Speaker 1: I'm sort of hungry for it, and to see the
Speaker 1: Tiffany's commercial was hard. Um, but I I remained steadfast
Speaker 1: in my trust of her. I remained steadfast in my trust,
Speaker 1: and I'm loving that she's helping. You know, everyone in
Speaker 1: that commercial who's just en thing, living and up having
Speaker 1: a good time. She's getting They're all getting their bag
Speaker 1: for this. I hope, um from a fucking diamond company.
Speaker 1: They better be paying these fucking people. Um. But I
Speaker 1: I you know, I would really love to see a
Speaker 1: fun visual companion to heated or to church girl, you know,
Speaker 1: like the whole thing. They're coming. They're female, but I
Speaker 1: want it now, I know. Okay, So wait, as we're
Speaker 1: talking about this, do you know what I just realized
Speaker 1: that we didn't even bring up is the fact that
Speaker 1: Rihanna announced. God, I can't believe we haven't talked about this,
Speaker 1: but we've been so distracted by the other pop culture
Speaker 1: news items of the day. Like what was your immediate
Speaker 1: thought when you saw that photo of her on her
Speaker 1: Instagram holding the football? That image is so powerful because
Speaker 1: you know immediately you know what it means, what was
Speaker 1: going down isn't that crazy? I mean, there's like just
Speaker 1: the impact to understanding sort of not It's like it
Speaker 1: all lapses into one point. You're like, I know exactly
Speaker 1: what's going on, and I went, oh, I can't come
Speaker 1: soon enough? Do we go to fucking Arizona for this? See? Okay?
Speaker 1: So and before this, like peek behind the curtain, there
Speaker 1: had been a heavy rumor that the super Bowl was
Speaker 1: going to be performed by none other than Taylor Swift.
Speaker 1: That now that the Pepsi sort of sponsorship has been
Speaker 1: and the contract is ended on Pepsi music, So then
Speaker 1: everyone was saying, it's Taylor, it's Taylor, it's Tail And
Speaker 1: I can I can confirm that the talks, the talks
Speaker 1: were talking like it was maybe going to be Taylor. Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I will ask you about that in a minute.
Speaker 1: Not from I'm not hearing this from the Taylor camp themselves, obviously,
Speaker 1: because they would never tell me that. But I'm just
Speaker 1: I can say that I had heard through reliable source
Speaker 1: it was very close to happening, and then it will happen.
Speaker 1: It will happen. I think it's I think it's next year.
Speaker 1: I think I don't if they want to take a
Speaker 1: break between like pop girlies. I think that they usually
Speaker 1: try not to like have it be pop girle after
Speaker 1: pop girl like, even though that's all I would want, Like,
Speaker 1: I think it will be an extra maybe the year after,
Speaker 1: definitely within five um depending. But I had texted you
Speaker 1: and I was like, Taylor is going to do the
Speaker 1: super Bowl? Are we going to fucking Dale Arizona? But
Speaker 1: the thing is like, it's because we've seen Taylor so
Speaker 1: much and like Rihanna. But for Rihanna, I mean, like,
Speaker 1: who is to say that she might not announce this
Speaker 1: is the last performance she's ever doing, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Some people are like, it'll be the new album,
Speaker 1: It'll be the new album. I'm like, I don't think
Speaker 1: it will. I really don't think she has no actual
Speaker 1: reason to go back into music, no reason to go
Speaker 1: back into music, and also no reason to need the
Speaker 1: super Bowl to launch her back into music, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. It's not like it's not like she
Speaker 1: needs this to like remind us why Rihanna. We've all
Speaker 1: been I don't think we've did over someone to come
Speaker 1: back like this and a really long time. But she's not.
Speaker 1: I mean, there was rumors that she had music, and
Speaker 1: then and then like there was rumors she fully did not.
Speaker 1: And I don't think anyone can say definitively what's going
Speaker 1: on with that. But she is doing the super Bowl,
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't be surprised if we get no new
Speaker 1: songs that's entirely the greatest hits, because guess what that
Speaker 1: would be fine? Like that would be a fun show.
Speaker 1: You're singing along to every goddamn word, And what would
Speaker 1: be your highlights? What would be your most anticipated songs
Speaker 1: to see at Rihanna super Bowl? Pour it up? Definitely,
Speaker 1: I don't think, but she won't. But I want to start, Okay,
Speaker 1: So do you start or end with we Found Love?
Speaker 1: I think I think you. I think she ends with
Speaker 1: fucking like Umbrella. I think you start with umbrella and
Speaker 1: end what we found Love? Interesting? I think um and
Speaker 1: she ends with she ends with cake Eat Cake. I
Speaker 1: think I think I think she ends with I want
Speaker 1: to fucking right now. All it ends with, It ends
Speaker 1: with this is how it ends. She does all her numbers.
Speaker 1: Then there is a minute of darkness, and there's a
Speaker 1: minute of darkness. You hear the crowds, and then you
Speaker 1: just see a single. What you see on stage is
Speaker 1: just like a soft pink lighting starts to come up,
Speaker 1: and basically you then realize we're getting into you're getting
Speaker 1: into we're getting into ballad territory, and you just hear this,
Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, chest but knows to know. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's just that close, et cetera. Until and the crowd
Speaker 1: is going, they're literally on their feet because it's the
Speaker 1: greatest song of all time, California King Bed. If she
Speaker 1: closes with California King Bed after a one minute sort
Speaker 1: of like a moment of silence that would heal society.
Speaker 1: Are you kidding? Are you kidding? We need a sound
Speaker 1: board just so we can go in this your kid,
Speaker 1: it sounds like we don't need the sound parts, und
Speaker 1: like you just you just belt it and whatever you
Speaker 1: want and we will all not along and go go off. Well,
Speaker 1: we have to get the end. Come on, okay, hold
Speaker 1: on of the of the chorus. That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: That a song. I'm actually not done with this episode. Wait, okay,
Speaker 1: so I want, I want, I want uh oh Nan,
Speaker 1: what's my Name? One of my favorite songs of all time?
Speaker 1: But don't but really, if there is a ballad she'll
Speaker 1: probably sing like stay, she'll sing stay um diamonds if
Speaker 1: we're counted in a ballad getting performed, for sure, that
Speaker 1: might even be last diamonds or first she'll do work
Speaker 1: um sex with me. I hope she just sex with me.
Speaker 1: I want the whole I want the whole stadium. I
Speaker 1: want Donald Trump watching it from Marrow, Laga going five fingers,
Speaker 1: I want I want all the America things, sucks with
Speaker 1: me together, sex with me so truly a super Bowl
Speaker 1: I mean that you cannot make the set list because
Speaker 1: there's too much good stuff. It's true. Remember when Harry
Speaker 1: Person did that Rihanna sing along at the pit that
Speaker 1: was that was maybe the best one because I was
Speaker 1: talking to Henry afterwards and he was like he really
Speaker 1: really don't always remember that, Like she has the songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's so many fucking hits. Do you know what I
Speaker 1: think is actually going to happen at the very beginning
Speaker 1: of the Super Bowl? I still think we're gonna end
Speaker 1: on California king back. But basically, like I think what
Speaker 1: happens at the super Bowl is like the lights go down.
Speaker 1: Everyone knows it's going to start at the halftime show,
Speaker 1: and you hear the crowd, and then you just see
Speaker 1: a man in a fedora sort of walk out to
Speaker 1: the middle of the stage, and then a spotlight hits
Speaker 1: him and he has to freeze. And then you see
Speaker 1: Rihanna in a red dress and you just hear that
Speaker 1: us and she walks to him. Everything falls out and
Speaker 1: she holds a pose and then she lifts the mic
Speaker 1: up to her lips and she goes story in My Life, right,
Speaker 1: and then everyone's screaming. Everyone's on their feet, screaming, like
Speaker 1: because it's Unfaithful at the super Bowl. The fucking song
Speaker 1: on It's Unfaithful. Yeah, it's a screamer. The show is
Speaker 1: bookended by Unfaithful in California, came back my God, period period. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that one. Looking forward to that one.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we're looking if anyone can host us
Speaker 1: in Glendale. Let us know. I'm sorry not to pople
Speaker 1: on Arizona, but um whatever, whatever, I would do it,
Speaker 1: I would do it for Brianna. We should go stay
Speaker 1: with our ex producer, Megan McCain. Yeah, I'll talk to Meg,
Speaker 1: Hot hot girl Meg Meg. All right, Well, this has
Speaker 1: been a truly action packed jam packed, content packed, honesty
Speaker 1: Zone esque episode of Last Cultures Those Culture catch up
Speaker 1: absolutely let's I always love these I love I love
Speaker 1: doing them with you, my friend. This is sisters support,
Speaker 1: This is my dearest right here that I'm pointing out,
Speaker 1: and um, we end every episode with the song story
Speaker 1: I wear my life all right, but it keeps the
Speaker 1: bund to me time meaning that's a company. This guy
Speaker 1: a log again to know that he knows the all thing.
Speaker 1: The guy die. I don't want to do that. I
Speaker 1: don't want to meet reason why someone died. Ready, bore,
Speaker 1: let her do this lining Ready, I don't want to
Speaker 1: be met. I met her for more of that. Like
Speaker 1: a Girl Like Me by Rihanna, The Best Round album
Speaker 1: Bye