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Speaker 1: Just spend it on the right guy. Please spend it

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Speaker 1: on the right guy. We're jam packed. We're high a

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Speaker 1: the Saturday seismograph. Write it down, TM trademark. That's ours.

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Speaker 1: We got SEC chaos ahead. I really think the SEC

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma doesn't really mean anything as it relates to accomplishing

427
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Speaker 1: our preseason goals. We have no margin for error. We

428
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Speaker 1: got to go treat every game like that. That's what

429
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Speaker 1: happens when you lose early. You lose to Ohio State, Okay,

430
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Speaker 1: a lot of people will you got beat by Florida.

431
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Speaker 1: You got no more margin for er. So I'm gonna

432
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Speaker 1: put a five on it. Lastly, Louisville at Miami on

433
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Speaker 1: a Friday night. I have my eye on this one

434
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Speaker 1: as well. Louisville is a thirteen and a half point

435
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Speaker 1: dog at Miami. It's hard to shake the memories of

436
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Speaker 1: last year. This is a new team. It's a way

437
00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: better team. You don't have to convince me of that

438
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Speaker 1: if you're a Miami fan. But Virginia Tech did happen

439
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,199
Speaker 1: last year. Close game, cal had to come from behind

440
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,159
Speaker 1: the Georgia Tech game we lost at Syracuse. We lost

441
00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 1: just the consistency and performance, the ability to be mature

442
00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,280
Speaker 1: and take care of your business. That's part one of this.

443
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: Part two is this is not merely a make sure

444
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Speaker 1: we don't beat ourselves and we have nothing to worry

445
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Speaker 1: about spot. Louisville's not a bad team. This is a

446
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,159
Speaker 1: big test for you than Florida State was. It's just

447
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: we didn't realize that at the time. Because see, Louisville's

448
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 1: off a bye week as well, and you got Jeff

449
00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: Brahm coming off of bye I think he's the most

450
00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: underrated coach in the country. They will have a plan

451
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Speaker 1: cooked up here. And for all the talk about the

452
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Speaker 1: quarterback position here being a little turnover prone, Miller Moss,

453
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Speaker 1: if you get him on the right night, he's got

454
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Speaker 1: a seven to four touchdown to I ratio right now.

455
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Speaker 1: So they've had problems with turnovers. If he's on against you,

456
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Speaker 1: that doesn't matter. So this is really where that secondary

457
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Speaker 1: gets tested. And I've got it at a six. It's

458
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Speaker 1: a thirteen and a half point spread. Miami should take

459
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Speaker 1: care of business. But you got to show me the

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Speaker 1: competitive maturity. Find out about those standards, find out if

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get the consistency and performance. I'm putting it

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Speaker 1: are waiting for you. They're well aware you're gonna go

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Speaker 1: tailgate this weekend, and they're sitting there thinking to themselves,

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Speaker 1: don't they need equipment? Don't they need chairs, Don't they

466
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Speaker 1: need grills? Don't they need coolers and canopies and whatnot?

467
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Speaker 1: got Academy dot Com if you can't get there in person.

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Speaker 1: They have supported our show for a long time, a

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Speaker 1: long long time. So we've been locked arm in arm

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Speaker 1: sitting there with what you need at very affordable prices.

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Speaker 1: And if you enjoy the show and you want to

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Speaker 1: support those who support us, there they are right there

478
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Speaker 1: on the screen behind me. Academy Sports and Outdoors. We

479
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Speaker 1: appreciate them. Got the Commissioner's pull right quick. Then we

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Speaker 1: got cublic. Is he he's waiting at the door. I

481
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Speaker 1: can feel him, Jesse, No, he's not at the door.

482
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Speaker 1: Well I'm not physically. But are you telling me that

483
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: even digitally you haven't heard from him. Oh well, we

484
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: do have a contingency plan, and that is to trash

485
00:26:05,119 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: him unmercifully for thirty minutes on air, so our balls

486
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,280
Speaker 1: are in his court in the meantime. I got the

487
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: Commissioner's pole hot off the presses. I used merediths printer

488
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: because she already left for the day. So the Commissioner's poll,

489
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: it's generated by flex power and it is a real ranking.

490
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,159
Speaker 1: This is not the JP pole. These are not power ratings.

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Speaker 1: This is not point spread stuff. This has nothing to

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Speaker 1: do with the model. I could slam the models shut.

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Speaker 1: This is none of the model's business. You will not

494
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Speaker 1: see Penn State at number nineteen in the Commissioner's poll.

495
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 1: I can assure you of that. What an idiot the

496
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Speaker 1: model is. So we've got controversy right off the bat

497
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Speaker 1: here because I've only got Notre Dame at twenty five.

498
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Speaker 1: What does this mean? Does it mean I'm a Notre

499
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: Dame hater? No, it means that I actually care that

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00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: you win games they have. I guess if you want

501
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Speaker 1: to call them good losses. The two best losses in

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Speaker 1: the country this year that A and m game. In

503
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Speaker 1: the Miami game else By combined four points. I know

504
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 1: all that, I know all that. I know all that,

505
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 1: and let me read this out for you right quick.

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Speaker 1: I got Notre Dame twenty five, Bring Him Young twenty four,

507
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: Memphis twenty three, Nebraska twenty two, Texas twenty one. I

508
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,320
Speaker 1: put Texas ahead of them, and I put Texas ahead

509
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Speaker 1: of them because I just think Texas just got a

510
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: way better win than Notre Dame has. I care about

511
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 1: your wins. That's what I care a lot about. If

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Speaker 1: you're comparable, which both of them certainly are. So they

513
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: beat Oklahoma like they did, I'm aa bump Texas up

514
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: a little bit. And look, if Notre Dame beats USC

515
00:27:35,040 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: this weekend, then they probably vault right back above Texas.

516
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Speaker 1: But I'm not projecting with Notre Dame. I think a

517
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,480
Speaker 1: lot of people are projecting with them. They had them

518
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Speaker 1: top ten in their preseason poll. They had to drop

519
00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: them down because they lost a couple of games, but

520
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: at the first sign that it was okay, they vaulted

521
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame right back up. I think the AP has

522
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Speaker 1: them at thirteen, and I think they're doing that cause

523
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Speaker 1: of what they believe Notre Dame will do the rest

524
00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: of the way. Well, if Notre Dame does it, then

525
00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:05,320
Speaker 1: the commissioner's poll will reflect that, but they haven't done

526
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: it yet, so it doesn't yet. Uh yeah, that's all

527
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,880
Speaker 1: I have to say about that, the Forrest Gump style.

528
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: There also Illinois I don't have in the top twenty five,

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Speaker 1: and I know I'm gonna hear something about that. So like,

530
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: why no Illinois? Why is Notre Dame in Texas in

531
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: their two loss teams? But Illinois is not well because

532
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: you got beat by half a hundred by somebody. So yes,

533
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Speaker 1: you have two losses, which is the same as them,

534
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 1: but it's really not because they didn't get body bagged

535
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: by half a hundred and you did. So that's that.

536
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: We move on. Cincinnati's at twenty, still ahead of Nebraska.

537
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: There's more than just head to head here when we're

538
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: this deep in the season. Now, if it's a playoff

539
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 1: resume and it comes down to that, head to head's

540
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: gonna matter. But at this point we're far enough away

541
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Speaker 1: from the game they played in Week one, but still

542
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Speaker 1: too far away from the playoff rankings, where head to

543
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Speaker 1: head is supposed to be like the trump card in

544
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 1: a comparable scenario. So we'll put Cincinnati at twenty. Now,

545
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: Southern Cali, I've got at nineteen, big game on the

546
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Speaker 1: road this week, Utah at eighteen, USF at seventeen. Man,

547
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: they keep rising. That's my G five playoff team right now,

548
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 1: by the way, And I got Virginia at sixteen. That's

549
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: a big win they got against Louisville. It's kind of

550
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: overlooked there were other big games. That was a big win.

551
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: I was very confident in Louisville. Virginia proved me wrong.

552
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: Let's continue. Missouri's at fifteen dropped them a few spots,

553
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: did not drop them a whole lot. Very very competitive

554
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: game with Alabama. They're on the road this week against Auburn.

555
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:43,280
Speaker 1: That one could be toxic, not for drinking in Missouri,

556
00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: although that could be a second conference loss, but just

557
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: they could deal a harsh blow to Auburn down there.

558
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: We will see the number fourteen team in the country

559
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:54,640
Speaker 1: this weekend. At home, we will see the Vanderbilt Commodoes.

560
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: Jesse pointed out something to me. He said, did you

561
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: notice that the AP rankings have kind of come in

562
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: line with the Commissioner's poll? And I just laughed, as

563
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: poor Jesse, poor young, innocent Jesse, like Bamby just getting

564
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:13,560
Speaker 1: his feet on college football's frozen pond. Poor Jesse. Yes,

565
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: I've noticed that, Jesse. Yes, I've noticed that we lifted

566
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Speaker 1: up the AP rock and we shine the light, and

567
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: that voters scurried all over the place. That's mean, I'm

568
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: not really comparing AP voters to roaches. I'm not doing that.

569
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Speaker 1: I am saying that the effect the light has on

570
00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:36,360
Speaker 1: our friendly roaches under the rock is the same as

571
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: when you've been turning in garbage AP ballots and then

572
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: all of a sudden people are really paying attention. It

573
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: makes you pay a lot more attention. So it's no

574
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 1: mystery that the AP pole has come in line with

575
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Speaker 1: the commissioner's poll. I think we've done a great service

576
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Speaker 1: to college football here. Tennessee thirteen, OU twelve, Georgia Tech eleven,

577
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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech playing Duke this weekend. Small favorite or small dog,

578
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,480
Speaker 1: depending on what you're looking. We look at FanDuel. I

579
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 1: just didn't check the line today, number ten or again,

580
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 1: that's where I put Oregon. I got them behind Georgia

581
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: and LSU, but I still have them fairly high. Some

582
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 1: people thought that I should drop them a lot further

583
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: than ten. Some people said they should be in the

584
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Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty range. I said why. They said they

585
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: don't have any good wins. I said, yes, they do.

586
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 1: The Penn State win is incredibly good. They said no,

587
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: Penn State proved to be terrible, And I said, why

588
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,640
Speaker 1: did they prove to be terrible? Do we think the

589
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 1: Oregon loss may have had something to do with Penn

590
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: State falling off a cliff? Or to put it another way,

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00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 1: do you really in your right mind think that if

592
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 1: Penn State pulled out that game against Oregon in overtime,

593
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 1: they still would have gone to UCLA and lost. Do

594
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Speaker 1: you really think Penn State would have fallen as a

595
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: twenty plus point favorite two weeks in a row had

596
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:58,960
Speaker 1: they beaten Oregon? Of course they wouldn't. So Oregon killed

597
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: Penn State. I'm not punishing Oregon because Penn State looked

598
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: dead the next two weeks. They're the culprit. Okay, they're

599
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 1: the number one suspect for why that happens. So Oregon

600
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: at ten, LSU and Georgia are nine and eight. All right,

601
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,480
Speaker 1: I've got ole Miss seven, Bama six. I put Bama

602
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 1: ahead of Old Miss because even though Obama got a

603
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: loss and ole Miss doesn't, Bama still got three top

604
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: fifteen wins according to the Commissioner's poll, and ole Miss

605
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: has got their shot against number eight this weekend. But

606
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: ole Miss has played an inferior schedule so far. I

607
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: dropped them because they got pushed to the brink at

608
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: home by Washington State last week. So I don't want

609
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: to hear any complaints there. You're fortunate to still be undefeated.

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Speaker 1: Number five Texas Tech incredible team Texas A and m

611
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Speaker 1: number four. I got Indiana number three, Ohio State two,

612
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,800
Speaker 1: Miami one. The model would favor Ohio state over the field,

613
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 1: they would favor Ohio State. By fourth they it would

614
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: favor Oho Ohio state. So that's why Ohio State is

615
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: number one in the JP poll. I think Miami's resume

616
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,960
Speaker 1: is better so far, so in a merit based rankings format,

617
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: I would put Miami one. We wrestled with whether to

618
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,400
Speaker 1: put Indiana number two, and I there's a really good

619
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: case to be made. I was only like fifty five

620
00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 1: to forty five put Ohio State number two over Indiana.

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Speaker 1: So that's the Commissioner's poll right now. I scheduled the

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Speaker 1: tweet to go out at six thirty two, so it

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Speaker 1: just went out one minute ago. Jesse, we had a

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Speaker 1: little we had a little snaff foo last week where

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Speaker 1: I scheduled the JP poll to go out way before

626
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Speaker 1: the segment happened live, So like we spoiled our own segments.

627
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Speaker 1: Terrible appreciate flex power for generating the Commissioner's poll all

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Speaker 1: right before we get best bets here and then we

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Speaker 1: Do we have an update? We Oh, we got him? Okay. Well,

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Speaker 1: How are you? You sounded cranky on the Tuesday Date

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Speaker 3: I was, Yeah, I was, and it's okay. I appreciate

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Speaker 3: The disrespect that you show Kentucky State at Franklin Pierce

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Speaker 1: I just want to let you know you saw the

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Speaker 3: You don't just walk into East Texas whatever. My good

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Speaker 3: You got Maravian at Catholic in this Saturday morning. They're

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Speaker 3: taking on an entire religion, Josh, I need to know

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Speaker 1: It's not even it's not even the only game that'll

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Speaker 1: trying to take live chat questions about real games that

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Speaker 1: people will watch, and I'm looking at what the model thinks,

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Speaker 1: and you're sitting there just feeding me D three nonsense.

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Speaker 1: People who play D three are not nonsense, those real humans.

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Speaker 1: That's someone kids. I'm saying, those games are not on

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Speaker 1: the board. You know, the model does not run Monmouth

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Speaker 1: point spreads. And you toss it to me anyway, So

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Speaker 1: this is like a real life version of what the

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Speaker 3: You just told us Merchant Marine at Salve Regina doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you just said, yeah, those humans, those humans do

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Speaker 1: not matter. No, that's not what I want to say.

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Speaker 1: I do not want to say that. All right, are

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Speaker 1: there's some serious stuff happening. Okay, serious face. You have

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Speaker 1: the Missouri Auburn game this weekend, right, I do you?

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Speaker 1: Rumor is you played at Auburn once upon a time.

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Speaker 3: People have discounted that based on the fact that I

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Speaker 1: But here we are. Yeah, and don't don't love some

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Speaker 1: of your Auburn takes need to be a little more

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Speaker 1: all in with us. Can you don't? I don't want

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Speaker 1: you to do it. Can you recite the Auburn creed? No, No,

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Speaker 1: you can't. Okay, I told you, told you so. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot of talk around Hugh Freeze right now. It's

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Speaker 1: a really uncomfortable kind of conversation because I remember back

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Speaker 1: Hugh Freese and Auburn come to Atlanta, and he was

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Speaker 1: unlike any other coach that day and that week. He

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Speaker 1: leaned into the expectations. He did what James Franklin did

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Speaker 1: at Penn State. Frankly, he leaned into the expectations. He said,

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Speaker 1: to paraphrase him, people should expect us to be a

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Speaker 1: playoff contender. We should be that, We should this should that.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciated it. It gave us a lot to

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Speaker 1: talk about. But I remember you and I sitting there saying,

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Speaker 1: it's great if it turns out that it's that way

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Speaker 1: there this year, but if it goes sideways. I know

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Speaker 1: him just like I know most coaches, and they're gonna

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Speaker 1: they're gonna kind of bristle at someone telling them they

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Speaker 1: failed to meet expectations. And that's okay if you never

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Speaker 1: go public with expectations. He went public with it expectations,

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Speaker 1: so he kind of put it out there, just like

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Speaker 1: James Franklin and Penn State, this is the best team

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Speaker 1: we've had. It's kind of national title or bust. He

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Speaker 1: put it out there and it busted. And so I

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Speaker 1: don't know what your feel on this is, but my

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Speaker 1: feel on Auburn is seasons far from loss, Like they

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Speaker 1: could go on a run right now, and they could

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Speaker 1: be right there in the playoff conversation, they could be

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Speaker 1: right there in the SEC championship game conversation. There's just

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Speaker 1: no margin for error. And I think it feels to

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Speaker 1: me like a little, you know, jinga tower where there

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Speaker 1: it goes crash really quick. And I'm not even totally

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Speaker 1: sure what that looks like, but I think it involves

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Speaker 1: Hugh Freese's job security. So I'm not sitting here to

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Speaker 1: ask you, hey, man's he gonna lose his job or not?

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Speaker 1: But you do radio in Birmingham. Every day you played there,

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Speaker 1: You're really close to the program. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: characterization is fair? Unfair? How do you see the situation

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Speaker 1: down there right now?

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Speaker 3: I don't think we have this much noise. If it's

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Speaker 3: just people making it up and people saying things that

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Speaker 3: they want to be true, trying to speak it into

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Speaker 3: existence or hypothesizing about the future would be Josh, just

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Speaker 3: go look at the record number one overall, number two

792
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Speaker 3: against SEC opponents. Then look at the scoring in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter, the yardage and scoring in the second half

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Speaker 3: of games, specifically yardage games in the fourth quarter, and

795
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Speaker 3: it continues to sort of slide downhill. And a lot

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Speaker 3: of the reasoning and a lot of the issues and

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Speaker 3: the problems are the same things that Auburn fans heard

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Speaker 3: last year and the year before, and that's where I

799
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Speaker 3: think people have sort of run into a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a wall here with the hope and maybe the

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Speaker 3: light at the end of the tunnel expectation is that

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Speaker 3: hold on, we've heard this, and it might be a

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Speaker 3: different player, it could be a different position group, but

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00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 3: it's beginning to sound the same. And that's why I

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Speaker 3: think it's wearing thin, not only on a lot of

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Speaker 3: Auburn fans, but some people that have some pull around

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Speaker 3: the program. I struggle to see it truly getting turned around.

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Speaker 3: You speak of being in some of an SEC championship race.

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Speaker 3: I would speak more of being Bowl eligible, Which is

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Speaker 3: interesting because what you said about SEC media days. Looking

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Speaker 3: was in reaction to himself what he said at the

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Speaker 3: region's championship when he referenced, Hey, we're trying to get

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Speaker 3: to a bowl game.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to get Bowl eligible.

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Speaker 3: Now for folks like myself and Greg McElroy and other

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Speaker 3: people that looked at it from our perspective. And Greg

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Speaker 3: made a great point on our show and day God,

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Speaker 3: I hate giving him so much credit when I come

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Speaker 3: on your show. He did make a great point one

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Speaker 3: day and he said, and I can remember I remember

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Speaker 3: Terry Bowden and Tommy Tumberville standing in front of us

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Speaker 3: before the seasons, and they're like, hey, win the opener,

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Speaker 3: win the division, go to Atlanta, try to play for

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Speaker 3: a championship, be it SEC or National championship.

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Speaker 1: And Greg told us a story.

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Speaker 3: About how when they would reach their sixth win every year,

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Speaker 3: Saban made a huge deal about it in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: It was one of our goals for the season.

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Speaker 3: But this falls into the category of low hanging fruit,

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Speaker 3: in which almost everything surrounding Hugh Free seems to be

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Speaker 3: right now. Some of that is self inflicted. I won't

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Speaker 3: even try to pretend that it's not certain things that

835
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Speaker 3: take that avenue and take that path with him. But

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840
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Speaker 3: People's intennas are up, people's eyes are open. The thought

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Speaker 3: process has now entered the chat of what potentially would

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Speaker 3: be next and when potentially would we make this move

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Speaker 3: based on how games look and what the outcome of

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Speaker 3: games is. And I think that's the tricky part, Josh,

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848
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Speaker 3: Does he have to win ten. I'll never put a

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Speaker 3: be brought upon or be able to be told by

853
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: whatever that number is in the w call him. You're

854
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 3: telling me if he wins seven and he had to

855
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 3: win eight, he's gone. But he beat Alabama in Georgia.

856
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 3: That's just not a real thing. So and that goes

857
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: for a Florida coach beating Florida State.

858
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: In Georgia, whatever that would be.

859
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 3: You beat your rivals, Like if people said they wanted

860
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 3: to get rid of Sark this year, and he goes

861
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,719
Speaker 3: out and wins one game less than people thought, but

862
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 3: he beats Texas by Texas A and m by twenty one.

863
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 3: At the end of the year, he's not going anywhere

864
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: like this is not a real thing. So I think

865
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 3: the essentially what we need to take away from the

866
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 3: conversation is that people's eyes are now open to it,

867
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 3: more attention is being paid to it, and there are

868
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 3: probably some real conversations that are being had about it.

869
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: I think he's coaching for his job this weekend. I

870
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: think that's where that stands. I always think it's stupid

871
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: when you're going game to game evaluating whether someone's good

872
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: enough to be your head coach. I've always thought that

873
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:05,320
Speaker 1: logic is dumb. I think maybe with the Auburn situation, though.

874
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: Oh hold on, I hate to interrupt you, though. Do

875
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: you know the Jeremy Foley quote. I've heard this one

876
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 3: hundred times and I can't remember it perfectly. It's like,

877
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 3: what must be done tomorrow must be done today, or

878
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 3: what we think he's going to be done tomorrow must

879
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,800
Speaker 3: be done today. Whatever it is, it's perfect for this scenario.

880
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, how about another quote where, hey, how about another

881
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: quote where if we're firing a guy in mid October,

882
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: should we have started the season with him. That's another

883
00:46:25,760 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: loosely affiliated quote with what must be done eventually, must

884
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,560
Speaker 1: be done immediately, which is what I've had thrown in

885
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,120
Speaker 1: my face from Penn State all week. My point there

886
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: is what I told you, either today or yesterday. I

887
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: can't remember the last time I talked to you. Memorable conversation, though,

888
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 1: I said, if they lose this weekend, here's what happens, Bradley,

889
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: do me a favor, take me full and throw the

890
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:52,120
Speaker 1: Auburn schedule up for just a second. If you lose

891
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: this weekend, and everyone behind the scenes decides, all right,

892
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,919
Speaker 1: it's time we got to move on. But you don't.

893
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,239
Speaker 1: What you have is you've got three You got four

894
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 1: games in a row. You could lose three of them.

895
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: But I mean Arkansas, Kentucky Vandy is not a murderer's row.

896
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: Although two or those three on the road, you leave

897
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: yourself open to the possibility of him going on a

898
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,960
Speaker 1: little run there against programs you would view as inferior,

899
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 1: whether it's fair or not in this given year. And

900
00:47:21,440 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 1: so I actually think they arrive at that conclusion. If

901
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,440
Speaker 1: we're if we think we're gonna do it eventually, we're

902
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna do it immediately. If we're looking around, and maybe

903
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 1: Florida moves on Billy and Penn State's already moved on

904
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: James Franklin, I expect a few more of them to

905
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,919
Speaker 1: come open. And you know, you've got what you think

906
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: are studs sitting at places like South Florida or places

907
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 1: like two Lane. You know, if you don't get him now,

908
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: someone else is gonna get him. And so I think

909
00:47:48,640 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 1: I think Penn State really kicked the ant hill. And

910
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:53,960
Speaker 1: I think Indiana locking up Kurtzegnetti really fired up a

911
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 1: lot of people today too. We'll talk about that in

912
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: a second. But you didn't say it, I'm saying it.

913
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 1: Let me be clear about that. I think it's either

914
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,800
Speaker 1: over or the beginning of the quick end for you

915
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: if he don't win this weekend, which I don't always

916
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 1: agree with logic wise, but I would understand it in

917
00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 1: this case. Sure, let's state it this way.

918
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,640
Speaker 3: How many teams left on that schedule, including this weekend,

919
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 3: from top to bottom, are more talented than this Auburn roster.

920
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 3: There you go, so that would be one way to

921
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: equate it and look at it now. Is Missouri a

922
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 3: better football team? Absolutely? Is Vanderbilt a better football team? Absolutely?

923
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 3: We know Alabama is right now. I haven't seen the

924
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 3: tape on Mercer this year yet, so I'll get back

925
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 3: to you on that one. But Arkansas, I think would

926
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,080
Speaker 3: probably be a coin toss. Honestly, if you're talk about

927
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 3: who's the better football team with just how Arkansas has

928
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 3: played in certain games this year, I don't know if

929
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 3: I would bet my savings account on either one of

930
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 3: those teams by saying I believe they'd go out and

931
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: beat the other in a game if they were facing

932
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: a neutral site. So Kentucky, I could probably sell you

933
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: on Auburn being a better football team right now. But yeah,

934
00:48:56,080 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 3: if you go get this one, you're looking at potentially

935
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 3: being able to put together heck of a run, and

936
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 3: then what problems have you solved, what bround have you

937
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,239
Speaker 3: gained at the end of the season, and we start

938
00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 3: this whole thing over again next year. I can see

939
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 3: where people would be in that camp is how they

940
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:12,720
Speaker 3: viewed the position.

941
00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: That's why I appreciate the way A and m H

942
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 1: the way they handle Jimbo like go beat Mississippi State

943
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,799
Speaker 1: convincingly and then great win. Hey you're fired anyway, That's

944
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: how they did it.

945
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 3: There are a few things here that we need to

946
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: take into consideration. You and I have talked a lot

947
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,640
Speaker 3: about the new world order, so to speak. Where we

948
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 3: are in college football. Your roster is a real conversation

949
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 3: that needs to be had, and people will reference this

950
00:49:38,239 --> 00:49:41,960
Speaker 3: as trapping kids on the roster, or making sure guys

951
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 3: can't leave and they can look at us some sort

952
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 3: of a backdoor move to keep guys from hitting the portal,

953
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 3: but that thing opens up for thirty days. Or do

954
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 3: you want to go around and have some conversations with

955
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: some agents? Do you want to have some conversations with

956
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 3: some individuals and obviously not the coaching staff. I don't

957
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 3: know what takes None of us know how this really

958
00:49:58,200 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 3: operates when it comes to win you get rid of

959
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 3: a coach, how you get rid of a coach? What

960
00:50:02,239 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 3: actually takes place? And then the other part of that.

961
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 3: Of course, as always, this is not individual to this situation.

962
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 3: It's going to be Jimmy Sexon, Yeah, what does he want?

963
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:12,920
Speaker 3: Who does he want? How does he want him to

964
00:50:12,960 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 3: go out. Like all of those things are real. Now,

965
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 3: we'll never know exactly how it works or what's going

966
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,360
Speaker 3: to take place or what took place, but it's a

967
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 3: real factor in this, just like it is one hundred

968
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 3: other coaching hires and fires they are going to take

969
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: place for the next five years.

970
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:29,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the college football public, just general fans

971
00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:34,279
Speaker 1: would be shocked at how thoroughly powerful people can make

972
00:50:34,360 --> 00:50:37,320
Speaker 1: stupid ideas possible. And so that's what you always have

973
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: to be careful of when you're making coaching moves as well. So,

974
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,839
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti, I'll wait for Bradley to change the lower

975
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,680
Speaker 1: because I actually want to clip this for later. Kurt Signetti,

976
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:49,680
Speaker 1: as of the last few hours, re upped with Indiana

977
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: eight years, eleven point six mil per year on average.

978
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: Every dime of it is guaranteed. That's no different than

979
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: your deal with Wjox. Every dime of it is guaranteed,

980
00:51:00,040 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: and so good on sig Indiana like all of a

981
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: sudden college football powerhouse. Now. I looked at this and

982
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:09,839
Speaker 1: many people said, oh, good for Indiana. It may be good.

983
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: You may be trashing them in four years for locking

984
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: up so much guaranteed money. I don't know how that's

985
00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 1: going to turn out. I know, in the moment he's

986
00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: a stud. They're rolling and he's not going to go anywhere.

987
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: So that's in the immediacy how it impacts the landscape.

988
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:26,839
Speaker 1: But I also thought to myself, all right, what kind

989
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 1: of lesson does this teach? First thing is I think

990
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: I got three of them. First thing is, this is

991
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 1: such an indication of how rapidly the landscape has changed.

992
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,280
Speaker 1: Because it used to really matter what kind of history

993
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:41,760
Speaker 1: you had built up, and then what kind of tradition

994
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,040
Speaker 1: and pageantry, all that stuff, facilities, all that stuff mattered

995
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: so much. That's why there was this clear hierarchy of

996
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,240
Speaker 1: what the best jobs were. I know, to an extent

997
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:54,360
Speaker 1: that still exists. I think that exists way more in

998
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: the eyes of fans and media than it does the

999
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 1: eyes of coaches. Now, that's the first thing. The second thing,

1000
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,279
Speaker 1: and this is the one that's eaten at me right now,

1001
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: is Kurt Signetti was at James Madison in his early sixties.

1002
00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,919
Speaker 1: He wasn't like a hot shot, up and coming coordinator. Okay,

1003
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: he's there in his early sixties. He's been a known

1004
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: commodity for a long time. Indiana took a chance on him,

1005
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: and it didn't take a long time. It paid off immediately.

1006
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: He was making a He was making a half million

1007
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: dollars a year two years ago and now he's making

1008
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: eleven point six million a year. So my point there

1009
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: is number one, he's rich now. Number two? Is he

1010
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,879
Speaker 1: the only one out there for people who have job

1011
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,280
Speaker 1: openings coming up? Is Kurt Signetti just a true unicorn?

1012
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: Or how many other guys that, if they're put in

1013
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,760
Speaker 1: the exact right situation, are sitting there coaching at lower

1014
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: levels of power five or the FCS or G five

1015
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,600
Speaker 1: right now, that if dropped in a perfect situation, would

1016
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,000
Speaker 1: just explode. Because I gotta think the numbers above zero.

1017
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,920
Speaker 1: It may not be high. He is a special, special guy,

1018
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: but I gotta think there's someone somewhere else out there

1019
00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 1: that it's There was no spotlight on sig when Indiana

1020
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: hired him. It was an afterthought nationally. And I will

1021
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,839
Speaker 1: grant you that I didn't talk about it. Most people

1022
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,319
Speaker 1: didn't talk about it. Who is that guy? Who are

1023
00:53:14,440 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 1: those guys out there? I'm not asking you for a list,

1024
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying that's where my mind went. Okay, they just

1025
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:22,600
Speaker 1: locked him up. Who's the next guy to pull this off?

1026
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,000
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in a little bit of a different

1027
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 3: direction with my answer here. Two part answer one, he

1028
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: is Indiana's guy. He's Indiana's unicorn, because, as you stated,

1029
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 3: how many guys are out there that if dropped into

1030
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 3: that perfect situation that it would work. We've seen good

1031
00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 3: coaches in certain situations, be it geography, administration, individual player work,

1032
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 3: or not work all over the place. The second part

1033
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,280
Speaker 3: would be infinity. I think there are hundreds of thousands

1034
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 3: of guys out there. Most of them are never going

1035
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:58,400
Speaker 3: to be found.

1036
00:53:58,920 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 1: Some of them are in high school.

1037
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,719
Speaker 3: Some murb D three. Where was Kaitlin Deboor eight or

1038
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 3: nine years ago? Like, how often were we talking about

1039
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 3: him when he was the head coach at Fresno State?

1040
00:54:09,160 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 3: I mean, Indiana made a run with Pinnix and you

1041
00:54:13,320 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 3: know he was on that staff and he got a

1042
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 3: little bit of a discussion point there, But we weren't

1043
00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 3: talking about him when he was coaching at the lower

1044
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,000
Speaker 3: levels of college football. So, and there's going to be

1045
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:26,120
Speaker 3: certain administrators in certain places that are never going to

1046
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: go get that guy. How many times have we seen

1047
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 3: the big name the obvious name the you have to

1048
00:54:31,280 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: go get that guy.

1049
00:54:32,480 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: Hell, Josh, we.

1050
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: Hear the conversations of all I know is you gotta

1051
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,280
Speaker 3: get somebody with big coaching experience at a big school

1052
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,960
Speaker 3: it's a big winner. Well, first off, most of those

1053
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 3: guys aren't leaving. Second off, if they're not winning big,

1054
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 3: they're gone. They're going to be fired. So how long

1055
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 3: are we sitting around waiting for a guy to find

1056
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 3: out if he can win big at a big school.

1057
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: I think there's a ton of guys that could go

1058
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: out there and win if the situation was right, if

1059
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 3: the timing was right. Timing was right for him because

1060
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 3: he had guys like Mark Cuban step up and say

1061
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 3: how can we help get this right? And that changed

1062
00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 3: everything about the culture and what that place was and

1063
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:13,120
Speaker 3: what that place was capable of doing. Also, the transfer

1064
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 3: portal was then available, whereas when I was at Auburn

1065
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: and Tommy Tubberville came in, he just got the strength

1066
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 3: coach to go run us every day and hoping guys

1067
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,880
Speaker 3: would quit so he would have more scholarships to go

1068
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 3: sign more JUCO kids. Not a real advantageous way to

1069
00:55:28,160 --> 00:55:31,520
Speaker 3: accumulate more talent on your football team in a quick manner.

1070
00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 3: So timing is so much of it. The individual matters. Yes,

1071
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 3: do I think Dan Lanning could go basically anywhere and win.

1072
00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 3: I do, But he also has the ultimate booster behind

1073
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: him that will do anything to help him win, and

1074
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 3: that's not the reason he wins. But you and I

1075
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 3: both know there's a lot of places that if you

1076
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 3: don't jive with the guy that either thinks he's calling

1077
00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,800
Speaker 3: the shots or absolutely is calling the shots, it doesn't

1078
00:55:56,840 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 3: matter how well you recruit, It doesn't matter how well

1079
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 3: you or how you scheme, or how you motivate or

1080
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 3: what your culture is. That timing is not going to

1081
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: be right, and that is not going to flow to

1082
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 3: the point of where you're gonna be able to get

1083
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 3: the talent, You're gonna have time to coach him, you're

1084
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 3: gonna be able to get the continuity going, and then

1085
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 3: you're gonna be able to go win games. He also,

1086
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 3: I mean, you think about the timing with Indiana, they

1087
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 3: had a little bit of an advantage from a scheduling perspective.

1088
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:25,359
Speaker 3: Let's be real, like, how top heavy is the Big

1089
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,200
Speaker 3: Ten the last two years, some really good teams at

1090
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 3: the top. There's some not so good teams in the

1091
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 3: middle and at the bottom. That's just part of the timing.

1092
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 3: It's not the only reason he's winning how he is.

1093
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 3: It's just it has to be taken into consideration.

1094
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah. I also had a buddy yesterday who was talking

1095
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: to me. Is not like some insider or anything, but

1096
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,439
Speaker 1: he watches a lot of college football. He was talking

1097
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:54,799
Speaker 1: about the Penn State job opening, and then there may

1098
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: be other jobs come open, and you know, he was

1099
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 1: throwing around certain names, and so like my has been

1100
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Speaker 1: Matt Campbell. Anyone asks me who would I go after,

1101
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 1: I always circle Matt Campbell, Like I think he'd be

1102
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: a rock star at some of these major jobs. So

1103
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: he said to me, I don't know, man, Campbell feels

1104
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: like his opportunity, his window kind of already passed him by.

1105
00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 1: So I hit him back up. Today when Kurt Signetti

1106
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: reupt with Indiana, I said, hey, hey, look at this

1107
00:57:22,560 --> 00:57:25,000
Speaker 1: young guy that Indiana just locked up for the future.

1108
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: And he said, six's not young. He's in his sixties.

1109
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: I said, oh, wait, you mean his window hattn't passed

1110
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: him by? You mean sixty four year old? And change

1111
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 1: Kurt Signetti's window hadn't passed him by. Oh, that's interesting.

1112
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:39,480
Speaker 1: So you could still be the real deal even though

1113
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,800
Speaker 1: you've been around for a long time, once you're finally

1114
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: given the right opportunity on the big stage, that's interesting,

1115
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: Which is why, like I look at a guy like Campbell,

1116
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't know how many more there are like him,

1117
00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: but me Mahl would call him a guy who's turned

1118
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,080
Speaker 1: pennies into nichols, nickels into dimes. For a long time,

1119
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: I listened to these recruiting stories about how down to

1120
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 1: the wire they're able to take early evaluations and offers

1121
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: that they get and then they'll land kids, and then

1122
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: the bigger boys will come in and offer them four

1123
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: x what Iowa State can offer an nil. But it'll

1124
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:12,000
Speaker 1: it'll get under the skin of some of these major

1125
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 1: staffs because they have to fight Iowa State for guys

1126
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: sometimes because they're real good at eval they're real good

1127
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: at developing. And I just always ask myself, that's just

1128
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: a bona fide football coach. It's a really good staff

1129
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: around him. But more so than anything is the mentality.

1130
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:28,640
Speaker 1: If I ever took that and I just dropped it

1131
00:58:28,680 --> 00:58:30,480
Speaker 1: in the bucket in a major program, I think the

1132
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:33,680
Speaker 1: same thing about Mike Elco. I think about taking his mentality,

1133
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: his ability, his ability to evaluate and develop dropping in

1134
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: College Station, Texas, what's gonna happen? The early returns are

1135
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,560
Speaker 1: very positive, and I always think, like, what SIG's done,

1136
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,120
Speaker 1: what Mike's doing in College Station, It's exactly what a

1137
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 1: guy like Matt Campbell would do, I think at one

1138
00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 1: of these major jobs. Now I could be wrong about that,

1139
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: but I just always love, Oh, well, he stayed at

1140
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,479
Speaker 1: Iowa State a little too long. What in the world

1141
00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: are we talking about when we say that, Why would

1142
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:04,960
Speaker 1: it matter? Why?

1143
00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 3: I don't understand why that would even be an issue.

1144
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 3: It's let's go back. We hear this about Jason Kandall

1145
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 3: also at Toledo. Well, he's been at Toledo for X

1146
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 3: amount of years. How do we know he could win

1147
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 3: somewhere else. I feel like Chris Peterson had the same

1148
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: conversations when he was at Boise. Did he get Washington

1149
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: to the College Football Playoff?

1150
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,200
Speaker 1: I believe he did. So.

1151
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 3: There have been what we viewed as lifers at multiple

1152
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: stops and multiple conferences, at multiple levels of college football

1153
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 3: that have been able to move on somewhere else. And

1154
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 3: find ways to win. I think it comes back down

1155
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 3: to your formula, Josh, do you have the formula? Can

1156
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 3: you help people be better? And can you get the

1157
00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 3: people around you that understand how to help people be better?

1158
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,840
Speaker 3: Better recruiters, better motivators, better leaders, better instructors of the game,

1159
00:59:49,080 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 3: which is something that I feel like is way down

1160
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: the wrong of importance and when a lot of people

1161
00:59:53,920 --> 00:59:56,160
Speaker 3: talk about college football this day and age, and actually

1162
00:59:56,520 --> 00:59:59,480
Speaker 3: it should be rising in importance because we're getting new

1163
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 3: guys in every six months that have never met, much

1164
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 3: less played football next to each other. How quickly can

1165
01:00:05,400 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 3: you get those two guys on the same page, because

1166
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: they're not going to be able to do it going

1167
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,280
Speaker 3: out and throwing fifty seven balls and twenty out routes

1168
01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 3: and twenty digs and twenty posts every night during the week.

1169
01:00:15,360 --> 01:00:18,080
Speaker 3: You have to understand collectively what we're trying to do,

1170
01:00:18,640 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 3: Understand the philosophy of our offense, our defense, and get

1171
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: them to do that together. So if your process, if

1172
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 3: your formula is one that wins with all those things involved,

1173
01:00:30,520 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 3: you're going to be able to win.

1174
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:34,000
Speaker 1: At whatever level that it is of college football.

1175
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 3: So I've never bought into that I've never said, oh,

1176
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 3: that guy's in D three, or that guy's at Jacksonville State,

1177
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 3: or that guy's at Mercer. He can't go win somewhere

1178
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 3: else if he's went in there. I almost think that

1179
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 3: they're more in tune to be able to go win

1180
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 3: at the higher levels of football when you do have

1181
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 3: the resources. The only thing that becomes more problematic, in

1182
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 3: my opinion, there is time management because you're being pulled

1183
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 3: in so many different directions. Trust me, I've had the

1184
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 3: coaches tell me how much golf they were playing and

1185
01:00:57,680 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: how many vacations they were taking in lower level of

1186
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:01,160
Speaker 3: football compared to where they are now.

1187
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: That is the biggest difference.

1188
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 3: And to me, that comes down to something you and

1189
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 3: I've also talked to before, hiring the right people around

1190
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 3: you to say get back in the facility, stop doing that,

1191
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: and come do this.

1192
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: Don't say that to the media.

1193
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 3: And then that's again getting the right people around you

1194
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 3: that can help you be your best.

1195
01:01:19,120 --> 01:01:22,200
Speaker 1: Did I hear right that you will have your family

1196
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: in the building with you as you work Saturday for

1197
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: the second time ever?

1198
01:01:29,240 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 3: Second time ever?

1199
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:30,760
Speaker 1: Correct?

1200
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:32,919
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, we're all gone.

1201
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: Is it nerve wracking? Do you feel the jitters a

1202
01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 1: little bit, knowing that they're watching judging, critiquing like I

1203
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:41,200
Speaker 1: do when I'm in the same building as you.

1204
01:01:42,040 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 3: There's no way they're watching me. My kids are ten

1205
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 3: to eight and five, they'll be watching. I'll be cheerleaders, fireworks,

1206
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 3: jumbo trons plural and finding the next concession item that

1207
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:55,920
Speaker 3: they want to go get. They are going to sit

1208
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 3: in regular seats for the first time ever, so I'm

1209
01:01:58,320 --> 01:01:59,400
Speaker 3: excited to see how that goes.

1210
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,880
Speaker 1: Oh wow, my wife out there in the general population. Huh.

1211
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,120
Speaker 3: But it's actually it goes right along with what we've

1212
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 3: been talking about. It's when I'm doing a game by myself.

1213
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 3: It's like me coaching in Division two or Naia. When

1214
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 3: the entire family comes, that's me jump into the sec

1215
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,920
Speaker 3: because it's all about time management at that point, like

1216
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 3: it's logistical nightmarish. But yes, the logistics of it completely

1217
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,480
Speaker 3: morph into something totally different. So it's actually a good

1218
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:31,640
Speaker 3: analogy that we use that fits into this weekend. Just saying, okay,

1219
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 3: reservation extra hotel, Do we have tickets?

1220
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,000
Speaker 1: Can we do? We have a parking pass?

1221
01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 3: Where are we gonna be? Here's where I'm gonna be

1222
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 3: at this time, this time, this time, this time, this time. Okay,

1223
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: I'll have an.

1224
01:02:40,520 --> 01:02:41,240
Speaker 1: Hour for you guys.

1225
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 3: Maybe on Friday, can we hang before the game? Possibly?

1226
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 3: Do need to work a little bit though? When are

1227
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:47,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna be at the gate?

1228
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,920
Speaker 1: It's all that. Yeah, I really hope you're busy Friday's

1229
01:02:50,480 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 1: all I care about is be busy Friday night. Have

1230
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:55,440
Speaker 1: no free time Friday night. Do not have any time

1231
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,439
Speaker 1: to watch any Instagram lives. Just go out on the town,

1232
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,760
Speaker 1: hit tumors, do whatever you can.

1233
01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:04,640
Speaker 3: Already, thank Eli Drinkwitz for me not playing those games

1234
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,360
Speaker 3: with you again, because he demanded that we have a

1235
01:03:07,720 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 3: zoom meeting at like six pm on Friday.

1236
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 1: I love I love it. We will be busy. By

1237
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: the way, I was up there last weekend for the

1238
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,840
Speaker 1: Missouri Bama game. We were in the weight room working out.

1239
01:03:19,080 --> 01:03:21,400
Speaker 1: Drink comes in, he says, come over here for a second.

1240
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: We walk in the sauna and the whirlpool room, which

1241
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,520
Speaker 1: is dark, and he and I are talking, both arms crossed,

1242
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 1: very serious faces, and one of his staffers walks in

1243
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,200
Speaker 1: and had the most uh oh, I just saw something

1244
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,320
Speaker 1: I'm not supposed to see look on his face and

1245
01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,640
Speaker 1: ran out and I wanted to tell the guy there's

1246
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 1: nothing happening here. He made me walk into the sauna room.

1247
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:45,919
Speaker 1: I don't even want to be in here. I don't

1248
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: know why we're in here. We're not even talking about

1249
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 1: anything all that important. So yeah, I love him, though

1250
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: I love him. Big win coming potentially potentially for him. Saturday.

1251
01:03:55,520 --> 01:04:00,760
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1252
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 3: Please go subscribe, even if you don't care about it

1253
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 3: and you hate it, just subscribe, give it a like,

1254
01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 3: give it a comment. Don't be like the guy that

1255
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: was commenting last week questioning if I even attended a

1256
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,480
Speaker 3: class at Auburn because I don't complain about officiating NonStop.

1257
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,360
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you didn't. You did not jump on that grenade.

1258
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:20,680
Speaker 1: You avoided it, and shame on you. You had a

1259
01:04:20,720 --> 01:04:23,600
Speaker 1: perfect on ramp there to get into good graces and

1260
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: you instead chose to not say that the league office

1261
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: in Birmingham has it out for Auburn University. Why why.

1262
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 3: Some of us have standards in life, and one of mine,

1263
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 3: from the time that I was a young lad playing

1264
01:04:37,800 --> 01:04:41,320
Speaker 3: middle school football at Homewood Middle chose not to complain

1265
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 3: about officiating and do what we could do on the field.

1266
01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: Like my friend Dana White always says, never let it

1267
01:04:47,720 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 3: go to the judges. Same with officiating. Josh, what good

1268
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 3: is it gonna do to complain about a flag?

1269
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 1: Tell me, tell me the good it does.

1270
01:04:57,560 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 3: Other than satisfy your own heart and brain. It does nothing.

1271
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: It does literally zero for anyone, to anyone, by anyone.

1272
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 3: It doesn't just go play.

1273
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 1: Actually, it did about one hundred and seventy thousand views.

1274
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: That's what it did. One hundred and seventy thousand views

1275
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Speaker 1: is what it did to complain about flags. Clickbait, paate,

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Speaker 1: Until everyone subs Cube show sub. Okay, go eat dinner.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to eat dinner. I'll see you at some

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Speaker 3: No, it's little sliders at the wife made. She brought

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Speaker 1: Even after that Tuesday night spectacle, you put on good

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Speaker 1: for her, good for her, and good for you. All right,

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Speaker 1: good night, I'll talk to you later. And that's our show.

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Speaker 1: We'll be on the sideline at Vandy Saturday. Who knows

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Speaker 1: I am being pressured. I am being pressured by Savannah

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Speaker 1: So make sure you're following. All right, Let's get out

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Speaker 1: to recap it all for producer Jesse, Director Bradley. I'm

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Speaker 1: Josh Bay, Take care, enjoy the games, and God blessed.

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