1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club. 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the world's most dangerous morning show, The Breakfast Club. 3 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: Charlamagne to God. Just Hilarius and Envy are out. 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 2: But Laura Lero says, here and we got a special 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 2: guest in the building. Her name is doctor Lakeisha Hallman. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 2: She has a new book out now called No One 7 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 2: Is Self Made. Build Your Billage, Build your Village to 8 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: flourish in business and life. 9 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: Good morning, How are you, doctor? 10 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 3: I am wonderful. I'm happy to be here for a 11 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 3: second time. Yes, so thank you all for having me back. 12 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 3: I've been excited to have this conversation. 13 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 2: I'm happy that you're here, and I love the title 14 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 2: of your book because this is what I'll be trying 15 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: to tell people. Man, we live in this era right now. 16 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:37,599 Speaker 2: Thank you were living this. 17 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,159 Speaker 1: You got one right. 18 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 2: We live in this era right now where everybody's always 19 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 2: talking about you know, I'm self made. 20 00:00:43,240 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? 21 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 2: I did it myself. Nobody put me on, nobody help me. 22 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 2: That's a lie. There's no such thing. 23 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 4: That's why I. 24 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 3: Wrote the book because it is profoundly untrue. All of 25 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 3: us who's sitting here today entrepreneurs across the country, anyone 26 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 3: that we've lived up, even the people that we don't know, 27 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,440 Speaker 3: there have been a village of people that's supporting them. 28 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 3: And so it was critical for me to write this book. 29 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 3: But for me, it's a love letter to our community 30 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 3: that we must return to community and also have the 31 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 3: true stories of what success is and how we got there. 32 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:19,639 Speaker 5: When you say return to community and have those stories, 33 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 5: what do you mean by that? 34 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one of the things that I write 35 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:25,960 Speaker 3: about in the book, particular in chapter one, I write 36 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: about individualism. I think individualism have been propped up in 37 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 3: this country where we talk about the self made woman, 38 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: the self made man, and the more that we lift 39 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 3: up the individual, it takes us back from that collective, 40 00:01:38,640 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 3: the group, the village that I write about and talk 41 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 3: about and my companies are built around. It is time 42 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,560 Speaker 3: sensitive that we return and get back to our togetherness 43 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 3: and figure out how to work together, how to be 44 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 3: tethered and took the place where we say that no 45 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 3: one is going to separate us from our bigger purpose 46 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: in doing good work together. 47 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: I know exactly what you mean. 48 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: I think it's one of those things that you kind 49 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: of got to be spiritually in tune, because it's like 50 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:08,960 Speaker 2: the ancestors are talking to us and telling us that, 51 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 2: like I've meant, you know, I got the Black Effect 52 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,799 Speaker 2: podcast festival that we did this past weekend, and that's 53 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 2: what I said. I said, I feel like nowadays we 54 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: have to have more community than we've ever had, and 55 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 2: we got to create safe spaces for each other. So 56 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 2: I totally understand you. 57 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 3: Mean you said something that I felt the ancestors talking 58 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 3: to me, singing to me as I was writing this book, 59 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 3: and not just in the book, but also in my businesses. 60 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 3: They understood the collective. And I think what the Whisper 61 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,359 Speaker 3: is to our generation is to not lose sight that 62 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 3: we are meant to be together, but not just meant 63 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: we must be together. I think we're in a very 64 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: critical time and that togetherness is what's going to help us, 65 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 3: help us survive, but also get us to a place 66 00:02:57,560 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: of thriving. 67 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, when you you moved to Atlanta in twenty eleven, Yes. 68 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 4: I think it was twenty ten or twenty eleven. 69 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,959 Speaker 5: And I was going to ask you what brought you 70 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 5: to Atlanta? But everything you're talking about Atlanta just feels 71 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 5: like that the minute Juland. 72 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: Yes, Atlanta is so special. You were there this fast weekend. 73 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: I was, Yes, Atlanta is incredibly special. I remember when 74 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: I first visited. I believe I was undergrad when when 75 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 3: I visited Atlanta, and I hadn't experienced anything like it. 76 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 3: It was a sea of black excellence. You all have 77 00:03:30,560 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 3: had killer mic on your and my brother loved them 78 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 3: up and he often talks about the history of Atlanta. 79 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 3: Coming there from Mississippi, I was blown away. I knew 80 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: that it was upon my destiny to be in Atlanta, 81 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 3: to grow in Atlanta, and it was that deep history, 82 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 3: but also that deep communal sense. 83 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: But it's I think it's the South period. 84 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 2: You know, Atlanta definitely, you know they leave the charge 85 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 2: when it comes to black excellence. But when you talk 86 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 2: about the heart and soul of Black America, it is 87 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: the South. It's the Georgia's Mississippi South. Carolina is like 88 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: where I'm from here, Carolina, like those sixty what is 89 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 2: it sixty percent all black people in America living. 90 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 4: In the South. 91 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it is the South is the heartbeat. My 92 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: my friend Charles Blow writes about this a lot about 93 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: the power that we can have if more people move 94 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 3: to the South, but also in the South if we lose, 95 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 3: if we use our collective power. But you you're from 96 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 3: South Carolina, so you understand there's something. There's nothing like 97 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 3: the small towns that we come from. It's nothing like 98 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 3: the resiliency of the people from my hometown to Baseville, Mississippi, 99 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:37,280 Speaker 3: or where my mother is from, crowd of Mississippi, or 100 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 3: my father Marks, Mississippi. There's nothing like the resiliency of 101 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:41,080 Speaker 3: those people. 102 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 1: Can we talk about the myth of being self made? 103 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 1: To me? 104 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 2: I really just want to expound on it. That's the 105 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:47,359 Speaker 2: first chapter in your book. What is the myth of 106 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 2: being self made? 107 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's when number one is untrue. I write about 108 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,839 Speaker 3: that for me to be able to sit here today, 109 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:00,799 Speaker 3: I am the product of my grandmother's prayers, their hard work, 110 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 3: my grandfathers, my parents, the team that I have we're running, 111 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 3: my companies, my friend group, and my extended family. I'm 112 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 3: a product of all these people. So if I sit 113 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:17,599 Speaker 3: here and you all ask me about how my companies 114 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 3: have been successful, and if I'm only talking about myself, 115 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: I'm lying to you. The true story is that we're 116 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 3: village made. And if we accept this title, we began 117 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: to erase people that have been critical to us on 118 00:05:31,240 --> 00:05:34,720 Speaker 3: our journeys. Even our first jobs are first opportunities. They 119 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: were building us to be who we are today. I 120 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 3: look at these first opportunities as divine assignments that were 121 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 3: planning in these experiences. But to take on the title 122 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 3: of self made, we are erasing people and then they 123 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 3: become hidden figures. When we sit for these interviews, we 124 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: are telling a profound untruth, but we're also telling people, 125 00:05:57,320 --> 00:05:58,719 Speaker 3: in order to make it, you need to do it 126 00:05:58,760 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: by yourself. 127 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 1: I wonder why you have that. 128 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 2: Well, it's not we, but there's a lot of people 129 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 2: who have that issue, you know what I mean, who 130 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 2: just have that issue of not wanting to give people 131 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 2: credit like they want to just beat them. Now, I 132 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 2: did it myself. Nobody helped me do it, Like, huh, 133 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 2: I love assistance, Please help me. 134 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:15,839 Speaker 4: I do too. 135 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 3: And I write about you know in the book that 136 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 3: I believe how we got here. It's because it's been 137 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: propped up that anytime we've seen people reach a level 138 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,280 Speaker 3: of success, the first thing that the media calls them 139 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: is self made. And then we've also shunned people who've 140 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 3: had support when that you didn't work as hard because 141 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 3: you didn't Yeah, you didn't work as hard as somebody 142 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 3: gave you something. But the reality is we are We 143 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: should be proud that we have been able to attract 144 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 3: people in our lives that want to assist us, that 145 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 3: want to help us. And so it's just really training 146 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 3: our mindsets to really look at success differently. But I 147 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 3: think it has been sensationalized. It's self made notion and 148 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: what it is deemed to be successful. This has been 149 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 3: largely over played in the media because if a person 150 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 3: I write about all the Titans in the book the 151 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:08,120 Speaker 3: Tyler Periods of the World, but we often look at 152 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 3: these people as self made. They made it out of 153 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: no way. But what I think is missing in the 154 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 3: story is that what I believe the truth is that 155 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 3: we are all self determined people. Self determination and self 156 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: made are different. Self determination means all the work that 157 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 3: you've done, Lauren to be where you are today, because 158 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: I've been following your journey, you are divinely self determined. You, 159 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 3: Charlotte Maye, all the work that you done to be 160 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 3: who you are, You are self determined. No one gave 161 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: you that but God and the stick to itness. Is 162 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 3: the thing that I think lifts us up. But what 163 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: really prepels us for is all the people that saw 164 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 3: something in you, saw something in me, saw something in you, 165 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 3: and that said, oh, it's something about them. I'm gonna 166 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 3: do all that I can to make sure that they 167 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 3: reach the pinnacle of their success. 168 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 6: I was saying about that this morning. 169 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 5: All the people who are like that, that just see 170 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 5: something in you, how blessed you are to have that. 171 00:08:03,880 --> 00:08:06,040 Speaker 5: But I think for us too, because when you talk 172 00:08:06,080 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 5: about being self made, I was going to say, maybe 173 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 5: it's like a scarcity of resources and people feel like 174 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 5: they have to do it on their own because a 175 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 5: lot of times you're like the first through a door 176 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 5: or first generation. But when you talked about just your 177 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 5: grandmother's prayers and how much that helped you, I'm like, 178 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: we don't even look at little stuff like that as 179 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 5: those that got me to the next point. 180 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 6: Or it's like you do, but it takes you. 181 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: I do, It takes you. 182 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 5: I feel like it takes a lot of maturity. When 183 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 5: you young, you don't think about that. You like, this 184 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 5: person didn't give me a job. This person it's like, no, 185 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 5: something as simple as your mom teaching you how to 186 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 5: wake up every day and make your bed before nine am. 187 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 5: Got you You know what I mean that that discipline. 188 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 5: We don't think about stuff like that, and I don't 189 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 5: know why that is. 190 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: I wrote about it in the book because I want 191 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 3: us to understand that we must think about it that way. 192 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,360 Speaker 3: And then if we shift and looking at these things 193 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 3: as the people that pray for you when you have 194 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: what you feel like one of your worst days, way 195 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 3: that you can talk to your friends or people who 196 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: really know you beyond all the titles, and they lift 197 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 3: you up when all things are falling apart. That is 198 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: just more powerful as just as powerful as someone financially 199 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 3: investing in your business, they're financially investing in your spirit. 200 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 3: And that is the true work of us and why 201 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: it was important for me to write about supporting that way, 202 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: because I think we always and we can get to 203 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 3: a place where we say I don't have this, I 204 00:09:21,920 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 3: don't have that, this person that lookout for me, but 205 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 3: you also have all these other things. So you do 206 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 3: have a village. You may not have the village where 207 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,319 Speaker 3: you can have everything that you need, but you do 208 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 3: have a village of people pouring into you. And that 209 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 3: is what we need. 210 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: We're talking to doctor Lakeisha Hallman. She have a new 211 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: book out now, Knowing It's Self Made. I love what 212 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: you said about, you know, people assisting you. And in 213 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: chapter two of the book you talk about discovering your 214 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: purpose and getting into alignment. 215 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:50,040 Speaker 1: I feel like that's when the help comes. 216 00:09:50,320 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 2: The help comes when you've discovered your purpose and you're 217 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 2: starting to get into alignment. So now God starts to 218 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: bring people in your life that help you, you know, 219 00:09:58,240 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 2: as you're getting into alignment. 220 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:03,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, And what I love about alignment it's not forced. 221 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 3: Relationships are not forced, opportunities are not forced. You get 222 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: to the point where you're calling the people you love 223 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: him like, can you believe that this just happened to me? 224 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 3: Can you believe I just met that person? 225 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:14,319 Speaker 2: Oh? 226 00:10:14,360 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, that and I'm sorry to call you. 227 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 5: I just feel so like, like, yes, that has That's 228 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 5: literally what I've been experiencing like these Even at the festival, 229 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 5: I was just like I cannot believe that all like. 230 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 2: That. 231 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 6: I mean that happens all the time. 232 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 5: No, but just the people and how people receive certain 233 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 5: things and how impackful things are. And then I had 234 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 5: a moment where I was like backstage and I jokingly 235 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 5: said it to him, but I'm like, I was like, oh, 236 00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,600 Speaker 5: you got money, but I was just looking around. I'm like, 237 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 5: all of this because Charlottae decided to sit down and 238 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 5: talk on the microphone, and then so many people saw 239 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: something through all of the the you know, all the 240 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 5: crazy stuff he'd be doing, right, and he gets to 241 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 5: that point and I'm like, man, like, I can't believe 242 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 5: that this is happening. But everybody has shared that, Oh 243 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 5: my god, I can't believe this is happening. 244 00:10:56,240 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 3: Yes, and that is divine alignment. And the only how 245 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: we operate in that space is saying yes to the 246 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 3: things that we're meant to be us, accepting the path 247 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: that we're on, and deciding to work extremely hard in 248 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 3: the space that we're in. And it becomes a domino effect. 249 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 3: You began to meet the people people who can really 250 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 3: really look out for you in these situations. I think 251 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: how you know that you are in alignment is that 252 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: it's truly not forced. You're not contorting yourself to be 253 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 3: anyone else. You don't have to go and put on 254 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 3: your persona. To be someone who you are is enough, 255 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 3: and people want to do all that they can. 256 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: To see you be successful. 257 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 6: No, go ahead. 258 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: No. 259 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:46,600 Speaker 3: I remember when I was teaching in Jackson, Mississippi, and 260 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 3: my colleague there, I wanted to move to Atlanta. Didn't 261 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 3: know a lot of people in Atlanta, but I wanted 262 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 3: to move to Atlanta, and we formed. My colleague, Ms. 263 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 3: Ethroge and I formed a relationship where she would tell 264 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 3: me to come over and tutor her students some days, 265 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,880 Speaker 3: and so miss E was like, she would call me Hallman. 266 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: He was hallming, I need you to come over and tutor. 267 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 3: Miss E taught special education. I taught honors in ap English, 268 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: and so miss E would I would. I would go 269 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 3: over anytime she did. I'm from the South, so we 270 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 3: respect people that's older than us, so when they tell 271 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 3: us to do something, we do it. But needless to say, 272 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: that was one evening after we played tennis together, She's like, 273 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 3: you need to take your certification exam. And I didn't 274 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: see that for myself, but it stayed with me because 275 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: she said I needed to do it. But when I say, 276 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: I did not see that for my own life. But 277 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 3: I went ahead took the exam. I was in my 278 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: early twenties, so I almost overslept that morning, but I 279 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,840 Speaker 3: took the exam, didn't study. Finally got a call for 280 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 3: a job in Cob County at South Cobb High School 281 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: with my now friend, doctor Ashley Hosey, and I nailed 282 00:13:04,160 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 3: the interview. I remember calling my mom and saying, I 283 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 3: know that I got this job. 284 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 4: By the time I made it back to Mississippi. 285 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 3: The next day, doctor Hosey called and he was like, you, 286 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: you did so well in your interview. However, a teacher 287 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 3: with more seniority wants to come to my school and 288 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 3: I cannot offer you a job. And I was completely 289 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 3: deflated because I knew I had it now, he said, 290 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 3: And of course he said he would refer me out. 291 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: He was like, you know what, if you have. 292 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 3: Your special Education Certification exam, I can offer you a job. 293 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 3: And a week before I got my test results and 294 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:46,440 Speaker 3: I passed the exam. 295 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: Wow. 296 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 3: That is look at God, but look at divine assignment. 297 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 3: Look at the people that's placed in your life. Like 298 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: Miss Etherich who saw something in me that I didn't see. 299 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 2: Those are the people, like the people that see things 300 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 2: that you didn't see in Those are the ones that 301 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:03,960 Speaker 2: keep you on the path that you're supposed to be 302 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: on Yes, yes, get you on the path. 303 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: You're supposed to get you. 304 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:07,840 Speaker 4: On the path. 305 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 3: And I believe that God sends them and put them 306 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 3: in a body that you would respect, because I was 307 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 3: raised to respect my elders, and so God knew in 308 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 3: order to get to me, it had to be someone 309 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: I deeply respected, someone that I listened to, and so 310 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 3: through Miss Ethriche then I did that and I got 311 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 3: the job in Cobb County. 312 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 2: And that's how you started building your village, which is 313 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 2: chapter three in your book. 314 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, that's how I started to build my village. 315 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 3: But really my village started to build before then. But 316 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 3: when I started thinking about, you know, my companies, I 317 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 3: didn't see myself being an entrepreneur. I didn't know that 318 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:44,600 Speaker 3: I was going to be on that path. I thought 319 00:14:44,600 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 3: I would be in education forever ever. You know, I 320 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 3: had ambitions of opening schools, but I really got the 321 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 3: vision of creating a village for entrepreneurs because what I 322 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: kept hearing from my friends who are more entrepreneuri at 323 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 3: that time, it's that they didn't have support and where 324 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 3: I didn't have the financial capital to invest in them. 325 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 3: I knew that if I got people. If I got 326 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 3: them people, they can scale. And so got the vision 327 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 3: of launching the Village market And now I have my nonprofit, 328 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 3: our village you name it. And what started as I 329 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: was an educator, but I've been able to support thousands 330 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:25,440 Speaker 3: of entrepreneurs and currently our program is reaching thirty three 331 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: different states and we've been able to deploy about eight 332 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollars in grants. 333 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 4: Wow, yeah, that's fire. 334 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 5: Well how do you because so I know you said 335 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 5: you respect your elders and this is the woman that 336 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 5: you knew, so you went along and did it. But 337 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 5: you talked in this essence article that I read about 338 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 5: not saying yes to every invitation that you get as 339 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 5: your building community. What's your spirit is it? I mean 340 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 5: for a lot of people, spirit of discernment, But what's 341 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,960 Speaker 5: your breakdown of how you decide to say no to 342 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 5: certain invitations? 343 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:56,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is spiritual discernment. It's maturity. 344 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 3: It's also me operating in the abundance rather than scarcity. 345 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 3: I think when we're in when when we're in a 346 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 3: scarcity mindset, we believe that we have to be in 347 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: every single room, that we have to accept every invitation 348 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 3: that we must say yes to everything. Where I am 349 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: in my life now and what I'm hoping to empower 350 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 3: empower other people is that we don't want all the yeses. 351 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 3: We want the right yeses. And how I discern when 352 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 3: the yes is right? Is it aligned with my values? 353 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 3: It is this opportunity aligned with the mission that I'm on. 354 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: Will it take me off course? Will I have to 355 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 3: divorce things that I believe in? Will I have to 356 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: contort and change myself? If I'm saying yes to all 357 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 3: those things, It's not the yes that I should take. 358 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 3: And now I haven't always been at this place. I've 359 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 3: had to grow to get here. My deep relationship with 360 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: God has helped me be here. But I remember, and 361 00:16:48,440 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 3: I write about managing the hard stuff in a book. 362 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:55,520 Speaker 3: I remember saying yes because I was afraid that if 363 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 3: I didn't say yes to this opportunity that I won't 364 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 3: get it again. But the timing of the opportunity was 365 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,439 Speaker 3: so wrong, and so I needed to say no. And 366 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,480 Speaker 3: so what I've learned about life is that sometimes the 367 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 3: test in the assignment is will we say no to 368 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 3: things when it's out of alignment? Will we have the discipline, 369 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,160 Speaker 3: the spiritual discipline to know that while this may sound good, 370 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 3: but this is not what I should be doing. Will 371 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: we be strong in our faith, in our belief that 372 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 3: our right yes is coming? And when I have done that, 373 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 3: and again I wasn't. It's very important for me to share, 374 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: because it's different when you've done the work and we 375 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 3: can talk about these things. But I do remember what 376 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: has awakened in me is more so a spirit of 377 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 3: abundance that I only want to be where I'm meant 378 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 3: to grow. And I don't want to be in every room. 379 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,360 Speaker 3: I only want to be in room where I'm meant 380 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: to be transformational, not just to sit at a table 381 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 3: just to sit there. 382 00:17:54,640 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: I hate that we don't trust our instincts anymore. I 383 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 2: hate that we don't trust God anymore, because you know, 384 00:17:59,480 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 2: you can just. 385 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: Feel it, Like everything you're talking about, you can feel it. 386 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:05,399 Speaker 2: You can feel the people you're supposed to be around, 387 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 2: you can feel where you're supposed to be, you can 388 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 2: feel the things you're supposed to say yes to. I'm 389 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 2: supposed to say no to. But we let so much 390 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: that's going on in the world cloud us and disconnect 391 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 2: us from just that discernment and that instinct. 392 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is. 393 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 3: I think it's distractions. I think we're at a time 394 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 3: in our society where everything takes us away from us 395 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,119 Speaker 3: in what I call profound stillness, the quiet, because in 396 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 3: our quiet times, in our still time, I believe that's 397 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: when we can actually hear and feel the presence of God. 398 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:39,239 Speaker 3: But the more that we stay on apps, and I'm 399 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:42,400 Speaker 3: probably aging myself. More we stay on apps, the more 400 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 3: we in the videos are funny, But the more that 401 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 3: we stay to these things, it takes us more and 402 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 3: more and more away from our internal consciousness. And I 403 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 3: think the reason while we hear and it's because of 404 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 3: these distractions. And I look at the distractions as a 405 00:18:59,160 --> 00:19:02,480 Speaker 3: ploy to keep her, to keep us from our divine selves. 406 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,480 Speaker 3: And so we need to spend more time enjoy the apps. 407 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 3: But I think everything's everything that we have need to 408 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 3: be done in moderation. We must dedicate time to our stillness. 409 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 3: We must dedicate times where we're nurturing our mind, bodies 410 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,119 Speaker 3: and spirits in that when that what you you I 411 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 3: wrote about gut in the book as well. How you 412 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 3: know that you're in the room where the where the 413 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 3: vibrations are off and the vibes are off. You have 414 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,679 Speaker 3: to be in tune with yourself to feel it. But 415 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 3: if you're not in tune with yourself, you're going to 416 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 3: be in a room and you don't feel the difference. 417 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 3: But doing that, doing our self work, committing to the 418 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 3: stillness and quiet, and I'm a faith driven person, committing 419 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 3: to committing to deepen our relationship with God will help 420 00:19:45,240 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 3: us know. When you walk in a room and an 421 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 3: atmosphere is off, you need to get out that room. 422 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 4: It's not the room for you. 423 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,560 Speaker 3: Or or if you meet a person and you're getting 424 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: ready to do a deal with if something feels off, 425 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 3: it is off, and to trust it. 426 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: Can you tell people, though, because you talk about the 427 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 5: scarcity mindset and how you sorry for you to make 428 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:05,959 Speaker 5: those decisions, what do you tell people who are in 429 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 5: that scarcity place that just need to eat real quick. 430 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 6: They can't walk away from that deal, they can't afford 431 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:11,480 Speaker 6: to That. 432 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 4: Is a very very very good question. 433 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 3: Scarcity is a place of survival, So what I do 434 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 3: have is a profound respect for people who are simply 435 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 3: striving to survive. But the question would be, do you 436 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,479 Speaker 3: want to eat something that's poisonous to you? You know, 437 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: do you want to accept things that it's going to 438 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 3: actually change the makeup of who you are, that may 439 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 3: compromise you from your greatest self. Where where we know 440 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 3: in our greatest selves and we operate in our higher selves, 441 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 3: more is there. And so this is a question that 442 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 3: is less tangible, but it's truly operating in faith that 443 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 3: if I just be consistent, I continue to work hard, 444 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 3: I continue. 445 00:20:58,240 --> 00:20:59,360 Speaker 4: To show up for myself. 446 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 3: I need to operate with the spirit of discernment, then 447 00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 3: my opportunities are come, will come. 448 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 4: Will you have moments? 449 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 3: Will you have moments where you may take a smaller 450 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 3: contract because you need to eat. I don't have kids 451 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 3: to take care of, and so I will never be 452 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: in a place of saying that I fully, fully understand. 453 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:20,920 Speaker 3: But I'm in a place where I have a level 454 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 3: of empathy. But I do know that we while in 455 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: a space of striving to survive, we can still be 456 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 3: very selective with the things that we say yes to. 457 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: I want to talk about Chapter eight support. 458 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 2: Support is a verb, and in that chapter you got 459 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:39,399 Speaker 2: a bunch of village verbs. 460 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: Explain with a village verb. 461 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 3: Is yeah, this whole book is, and why I'm so 462 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 3: excited about it? While I tell a bunch of entrepreneur stories, 463 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: things that I've experienced, and I write about many luminaries 464 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 3: from the past and people presently who's doing the work. 465 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: The anchor piece of this book is all about the village, 466 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 3: all about. 467 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 4: Community and the Village Verbs. 468 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 3: When people close this book, I want people to do something. 469 00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: So Village Verbs is making sure that we participate in 470 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 3: the voting process. Village Verbs is making sure that we're 471 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 3: buying local, that we're buying from black businesses. Village Verbs 472 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,400 Speaker 3: is making sure that we're showing up from one another. 473 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:27,439 Speaker 3: If we do not have action behind the things that 474 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 3: we believe, then I always ask people, do you really 475 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 3: love it? Because if you love it, your action should follow. 476 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,240 Speaker 3: You have on a black brand today. 477 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 6: I've been wearing her for years and years and years. 478 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, but what you are doing today is love and action. 479 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 3: So you support her in a real way. You're on 480 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 3: a syndicated radio show rocking her brand. That is what 481 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 3: it's about. 482 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,480 Speaker 4: Charlotte Mane. 483 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 3: I think about the number of things that aware you 484 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:01,359 Speaker 3: probably do even more, but black effect, pot cass, your inprint, 485 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: all these things. You are putting people in rooms and 486 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: putting people in position and it's because you want your 487 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 3: actions to look like things that you care about. You 488 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: want people's lives to change, and not just for this generation, 489 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 3: but next generation and next generation. But you're not just 490 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 3: saying these things, you are doing these things. That final 491 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,719 Speaker 3: chapter of Village Verbs is all about us doing the 492 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,199 Speaker 3: things that we say and getting put our action in 493 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 3: love behind it and our challenge. I always challenge our 494 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: community that you may not be able to participate in 495 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 3: ten different things, but you need to find something that 496 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 3: you're passionate about and put your love and your action there, 497 00:23:43,320 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 3: and our communities will change. 498 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: I love it that the Village Verbs lock in, show 499 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 2: up and connect, keep learning and higher, teach it, govern 500 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: your words and listen intently, pivot, invest in your people, 501 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: and spend locally. 502 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 1: Wow. Yeah, Wow, that's a plan. 503 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 2: All this is a plan that it's a call to 504 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 2: action and plan of action. 505 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 3: Yes, and and and a lot of the things. Even 506 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 3: in the sense of governing our words, I don't think 507 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,680 Speaker 3: we spend enough time thinking about the power of our words. 508 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 4: Words are prophetic. 509 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 3: We have to be in a different relationship with each other, 510 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 3: even in a place of disagreement, even in the in 511 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 3: the place when things don't always feel good and look 512 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 3: good within our community. But we have to govern the 513 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 3: way that we speak to each other. We have to 514 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 3: govern the way that we react and interact with each other. 515 00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 3: And all of everything that I'm sharing is requires discipline. 516 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 3: You often talk about discipline, having the the having the 517 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: discipline that the change begins with you. 518 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,679 Speaker 5: Now what about you talk a bit about Uh, Well, 519 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 5: I saw a statistic in the Essence article the seventy 520 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,960 Speaker 5: two percent of entrepreneurs struggle with mental health issues, including burnout. 521 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 6: And you talk about how like the being the individual 522 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 6: who did. 523 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:06,199 Speaker 5: All about himselves leads to that even if you know 524 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 5: you didn't do it by yourself, burnout still be real. 525 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,159 Speaker 3: Burnout is real. Yeah, burnout is real even when you 526 00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: have a village. That's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's a 527 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 3: real thing. You know what I've done. Number One, we 528 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 3: do need to delegate more. And it's hard to delegate 529 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,960 Speaker 3: when you're running things and trusting people with your baby, 530 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 3: especially in the entrepreneur world. 531 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 4: Letting go is hard. 532 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: But the more that we hold on, the more that 533 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: we try to do all the things, be all the people, 534 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 3: for everybody. 535 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: It's not just business, this is life. 536 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:38,120 Speaker 3: You're gonna find yourself feeling depleted and so always trying 537 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 3: to literally be there for everyone when you haven't quite 538 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 3: been there for yourself. When you're there for yourself, you 539 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 3: get to replenish yourself and you have something more to give. 540 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 3: But this sense of burnout, imposter syndrome, decision fatigue, all 541 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 3: of these things. We in my nonprofit a our Village, 542 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:01,320 Speaker 3: you name it, We did a pole for the for 543 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 3: the entrepreneurs in the village and what they shared was 544 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 3: that they were burnt out, decision fatigue, and completely overwhelmed, 545 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 3: and many of them experienced anxiety. And what I did 546 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 3: was to make sure that all our programming that we 547 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 3: offer for entrepreneurs are holistic, and so we have therapists 548 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 3: on board, we have coaches on board to not just 549 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 3: help these entrepreneurs with their with their businesses, but the 550 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 3: help entrepreneurs with their psyche, with their mental health, because 551 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: that is the only way we're really going to be 552 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 3: our who we're meant to be. Yeah, and I think 553 00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,240 Speaker 3: that has to be we I talked about this when 554 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 3: I was just last time. So much a business and 555 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 3: scaling and want to be successful is all about money, 556 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 3: and we're spending less time of talking about the soul, 557 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,919 Speaker 3: less time of talking about why we're really here in 558 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,880 Speaker 3: this time, and it's really for us to illuminate light. 559 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: We will get to do a lot of things well, 560 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 3: but even when the positions that you all are in 561 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 3: right now, it's to illuminate light. And in that light 562 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: we can find each other when it's dark. 563 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: I totally agree. 564 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 2: I love that we're talking about villaging, we're talking about community. 565 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 2: I know that you're on the State of the People 566 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: power tool with my good sister Angela RAI. 567 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 1: Can we talk about that a little bit? 568 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: Oh my goodness. 569 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,119 Speaker 3: I was That's why I couldn't attend Black Effect podcasts 570 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 3: in Atlanta. 571 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 4: But I got to be there last year and it 572 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 4: was amazing. 573 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. 574 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 4: But State of the People is so it's powerful. 575 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:35,040 Speaker 3: I looked at what happened in Atlanta this weekend, and 576 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,080 Speaker 3: what's powerful about what Angela and team has done Because 577 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 3: she's she is adamant that this is just not about her. 578 00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: It's the village. 579 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 3: And that's the way that you know she she was 580 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 3: raised in coalition building, but in a few short weeks, 581 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: intentional people decided that they were going to do something 582 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 3: We're at a time where people feel hope, bliss, scared, 583 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 3: and a small but mighty group of people said, not 584 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 3: on my watch, that I am going to gather the 585 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 3: people that I'm going to make sure that a room 586 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 3: is comprised of people that can give resources, people that 587 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 3: can give hope, people that can give the direction. And 588 00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 3: when you look left right, you see people that look 589 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 3: like you. 590 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:25,880 Speaker 6: That is what. 591 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 3: Happened this weekend in Atlanta. Day one, there was a 592 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: service project done where so many snack boxes were given 593 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,120 Speaker 3: to elders in the community. Why that is so profound, 594 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:42,440 Speaker 3: it is because elders often feel forgotten and so for 595 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 3: them to have a snack box with people convening from 596 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: all over that say I see you, I love you, 597 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: I want to support you, that kicked everything off. And 598 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:59,720 Speaker 3: then to go into the workshops, action oriented workshops that 599 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 3: helped people build in their community. And then Sunday is 600 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 3: what I got an opportunity to participate in was the rally. 601 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 3: It was absolutely powerful. You had my brother from another 602 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: Gary Chambers, my three dear friends, but Gary shut the 603 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 3: house down. You had doctor Bryant, pastor doctor Jamal Bryant 604 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 3: there and a number of others, Keisha Lance Bottles, myself, 605 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: many others. It was just such a beautiful response to 606 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 3: this moment. And why I think State of the People 607 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 3: is so important as they go to other cities because 608 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 3: history is determined by what you do, and when the 609 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:43,320 Speaker 3: history books are written, the history books are right that 610 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,360 Speaker 3: a group of people. 611 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 4: Decided to do something and will do. 612 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 3: I think people left State of the People feeling in power. Absolutely. 613 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 3: I remember walking to my car, Gary was walking me 614 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 3: to my car and we could barely make it to 615 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 3: the are people saying thank you. 616 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 1: Wow. 617 00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 3: It was so I When State of the People come 618 00:30:06,560 --> 00:30:09,760 Speaker 3: to other cities, I'm really encouraging people to make sure 619 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 3: they attend because it is absolutely special. 620 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I know you found it a village market, 621 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 2: but you also have our Village United. What are those 622 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 2: two entities and how are they different from each other? 623 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 624 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 3: So I have a retail store at Punt City Market 625 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 3: and we have a pop up at Google Visitor Center 626 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 3: as well in California. But when you all come back 627 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 3: to Atlanta, make sure you come by the Village Retail 628 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 3: at Pont City Market where we have about thirty seven 629 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 3: different black brands and it's beautiful retail store. We're going 630 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 3: into our fifty year being open. It has been highly successful. 631 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: But what I the former teacher in me, is that 632 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 3: in order to make something real, you have to make 633 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 3: an experience of it, and so I had to build 634 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,960 Speaker 3: a retail store so entrepreneurs can see themselves on shelves, 635 00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: and so our community community can also have a place 636 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 3: where they can patronize. But the other part of educator 637 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 3: inside of me is that I also wanted to make 638 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 3: sure that entrepreneurs had the resources, technical assistance that they 639 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: needed to grow. And so daily we work with entrepreneurs 640 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: from our Elevated Cities program, our Get Procured program, our 641 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 3: her pro Bono program. We're working with entrepreneurs across the 642 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 3: country to make sure that they have a village. So 643 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,000 Speaker 3: we have some of the top entrepreneurs coming to teach classes. 644 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: We have some of the top corporations coming and talking 645 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 3: about supplier diversity and how to get these government contracts 646 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 3: and things like that. 647 00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 4: Is I am when I say I'm so proud of 648 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 4: this work. I really feel. 649 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,959 Speaker 3: Very fortunate that God trusted me to do this, and 650 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: I take it very seriously. It's much more than me 651 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 3: building a business or growing a nonprofit or me writing 652 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 3: a book. I am being obedient to the call that's 653 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 3: on my life. And so I've been able to work 654 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 3: with so many entrepreneurs now and to see them go 655 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:06,360 Speaker 3: from early stage concept to growing, to opening their own 656 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 3: locations to being in big box retail and to know 657 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: that they are getting an education that is about the collective, 658 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 3: because we have a collective wealth building model. So it's 659 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 3: less about building more individual multi millionaires. It's more about 660 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 3: when you make your money, what is your social impact focus? 661 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: What is the collective of that? 662 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 2: Wow, well, keep doing the work, doctor Lakeisha Harman. We 663 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,240 Speaker 2: appreciate you, and your new book is out right now. 664 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 2: We'll get tell them more to find you. 665 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: First of all, yes, you can find me at doctor 666 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 3: key Hallman. On social platforms you can get the book 667 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 3: and no one as self made dot com. But from 668 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 3: all major retailers entrepreneurs, you will most definitely love this book. 669 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 3: Leaders in the communities, you will love this book. It 670 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,160 Speaker 3: is very practical and prescriptive. What I didn't say this, 671 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 3: but what special about the way the chapters end. I 672 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,320 Speaker 3: have reflection questions, and those reflection questions by the time 673 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,160 Speaker 3: you finish the book, you have a whole plan on 674 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: how to map out and build community. 675 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 6: In true teacher format, in truth teacher format. 676 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 4: You're right, Lauren. 677 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 2: The funny thing is I think that you'll also realize 678 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: you already have that community. 679 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: Yes, you just haven't acknowledged them as such. That's what. 680 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: That's what. 681 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 4: That's good. 682 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: But doctor Lakeisha Hall and her new book Knowing Itself 683 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: Made build your village to flourish in business and life. 684 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: Go get that right now. 685 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 4: Thank you for joining us, Thank you, and thank you. 686 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: It's the Breakfast Club. Wake that answer up in the morning. 687 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: The Breakfast Club.