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Speaker 3: That should always be the expectation.

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Speaker 2: All right, man, ex you go ahead. Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: the Richard Sherman Podcast. I got one of my favorite

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Speaker 2: guests on Cornerback DJ Red the second rated PFF second rated.

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Speaker 2: You know they still punish you for some of the

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Speaker 2: BS calls that we're gonna talk about that. We're gonna

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Speaker 2: talk about that. I'll talk about it because we don't

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Speaker 2: want to get you fine. I'll talk about it some

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Speaker 2: bo like let him play, especially the one on Jefferson

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Speaker 2: like you undercut it, couldn't have played it, and then

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Speaker 2: they let him get away with the push. But but I.

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Speaker 3: Digress, hey, man, like I said, I'm not trying to

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Speaker 3: get fine, bro.

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Speaker 2: No, we ain't gonna get you fine. But this is

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Speaker 2: your seventh season in the National Football League. Now seven.

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Speaker 2: I remember when you break up.

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Speaker 3: That man not knowing anything.

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Speaker 2: I remember when you got your first opportunity against the

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Speaker 2: Kansas City Chiefs and Mahomes before everybody knew he was

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Speaker 2: Mahomes and he That was an interesting game for us.

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Speaker 4: Interesting game. I Tyrek ignored the game plan. I say,

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Speaker 4: whoiver'sduring Tyree, I'm over the two.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: She was smart, man, that was still a smart game.

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Speaker 2: Tell me tell me about how you felt like when

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Speaker 2: you got drafted and when you got the call. Were

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Speaker 2: you expected it earlier, were you expecting it later or

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Speaker 2: were you not expecting it at all? I mean usually

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Speaker 2: people feel like they should be drafted higher than what

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Speaker 2: they were.

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Speaker 3: For sure, I thought I was going to be a

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Speaker 4: I thought I was gonna probably land somewhere and like

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Speaker 4: the third maybe the fourth round. Just with the season

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Speaker 4: that I had that was all American at corner, also

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Speaker 4: all American at kick return and pub return. So I

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Speaker 4: thought that I definitely was gonna be a third round

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Speaker 4: draft pick. Went to the combine, didn't run as fast

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Speaker 4: as people wanted me to run. People thought I was

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Speaker 4: gonna run a four to three based on the tape.

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Speaker 4: Ended up running four or five to one. So I

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Speaker 4: think that was like a big fall for me with

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Speaker 4: what they were looking at. But yeah, I got drafted

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Speaker 4: by the Niners. They called me seeing a Senate Santa

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Speaker 4: Clair area code which I never seen before.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was Oakland, So I was like, oh,

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Speaker 3: I'm about to go. Oh, I'm okay.

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Speaker 4: And then John Lynch called me and said, hey, DJ,

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Speaker 4: We're going to take you, you know, in the fifth

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Speaker 4: round with the next pick Seahawks Seattle pick before that. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, all the emotions just with everything I've been

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Speaker 4: through leading up to that point just kind of just

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Speaker 4: poured down on me. Started crying and stuff got emotional.

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Speaker 4: My whole family was there, so that was a really

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Speaker 4: cool experience.

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Speaker 2: Well, you got San Francisco, you know things, you know,

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Speaker 2: you learned some things I'm sure you know from the

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Speaker 2: old man, and then you got cut you know, and

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Speaker 2: I'm sure you know that didn't feel good. But you

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Speaker 2: went to Seattle where I feel like you got a

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Speaker 2: chance to blossom and really develop into a guy you are.

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Speaker 4: Talk about that experience, Man, it's crazy, Sharan, like you

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Speaker 4: was with me. That's when I met you in San Francisco,

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Speaker 4: which was a crazy experience. Just I'll watched you, bro, Like,

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Speaker 4: even though we got different body types, it was you

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Speaker 4: were somebody that always like looked up to as far

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Speaker 4: as how you played the game, the ball skills and.

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Speaker 3: Just lob just whatch I was doing.

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Speaker 4: So Like when I got drafted, I was actually sitting

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Speaker 4: next to you and I was just like, Damn, this

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Speaker 4: ship is crazy.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 4: I'm sitting by Sharon, and you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: We end up, you know, forming our friendship. You're just

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Speaker 4: a hell a cool dude down to earth.

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Speaker 3: You know. I still took a lot of gems from you,

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Speaker 3: just with the game. Bro.

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Speaker 4: That's one thing I appreciate like from you. You always

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Speaker 4: gave me information when I asked. You used to never

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Speaker 4: have a notebook.

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Speaker 3: You just like DJ.

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Speaker 4: This is all the same, Bro. We run the same defense,

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Speaker 4: We're gonna get hit the same things. And now that

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Speaker 4: I'm playing corner. It's true, like when you play quarters,

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Speaker 4: when you play Man, you get the same route concept

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Speaker 4: as a it's a copycat league. But like even the

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Speaker 4: toolbox stuff, like for example, you taught me like when

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Speaker 4: the receiver pushes off to grab their hand, make me

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Speaker 4: catch you one hand.

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Speaker 3: They're calling that shit now like I got to, I got,

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Speaker 3: I got two.

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Speaker 4: And it's like you may be able to do it

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Speaker 4: subtle when they push off, but like if you just

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Speaker 4: grab it and you know I'm making them, I'm forcing

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Speaker 4: to catch it with the dominahan or non dominantant. I've

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Speaker 4: gotten two PI calls this year from that, and I

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Speaker 4: know the rest have a hard job, so like I

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Speaker 4: don't give him a hard time. I just come up

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Speaker 4: to him and ask what did I do so I

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Speaker 4: could correct it? And it's just like you're grabbing his hand.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, I used to get away with that

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Speaker 4: when I was in Seattle, but now that they're calling it,

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Speaker 4: it's just something that I got to adapt to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think because because literally when you got called

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Speaker 2: for it, I felt so terrible because I was like,

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Speaker 2: he went to push off and you grab the air.

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Speaker 2: I said, that's my move.

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Speaker 3: Hey, that's what I lay. That's in the toolbox, in.

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Speaker 2: A toolbox, like, but I don't understand it. And that's

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Speaker 2: what the frustrating part of playing dB is because everybody

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Speaker 2: sees it like like you're always guilty until ruven innocent,

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Speaker 2: Like it's like, you know whatever.

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Speaker 4: Being real, it's interesting because like there needs to be

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Speaker 4: a blueprint of what to do and what not to do,

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Speaker 4: because like, for example, when we played the Bills two

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Speaker 4: weeks ago, I got called, you know, for the one

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Speaker 4: grabbing the hand, and then I got called for literally

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Speaker 4: like I tripped. I'm running to my receiver. I know

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Speaker 4: the balls in the throne because the receiver calls to me,

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Speaker 4: I look back and bat the ball down and they

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Speaker 4: still throw a flag.

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Speaker 3: I asked the ref what did I do? He said,

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Speaker 3: you didn't get your head back. I'm looking at the

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Speaker 3: jumble tron, Like, bro, I got my head back to

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Speaker 3: break the ball up.

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Speaker 4: So like I just told him. I told him like, hey,

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Speaker 4: like I just don't respect that call, Like just respectfully,

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Speaker 4: I just don't respect that call. So it got to

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Speaker 4: the point where I started playing just like you know

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Speaker 4: what when I press, because that's what my max to

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Speaker 4: do is press. It got to the point where, like

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Speaker 4: the PBu I had on Coleman, this dude is literally

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Speaker 4: just pushing me off, and I'm just letting him push

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Speaker 4: me off. He created space from a push off, and

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Speaker 4: I still broke the ball up, but I'm giving him

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Speaker 4: an advantage. Because the thing is saran, there's always going

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Speaker 4: to be hand touching and fighting in the midst of

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Speaker 3: That's what is the confusing part.

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Speaker 4: If a receiver pushes off, I'm gonna pull because if

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Speaker 4: he pushes off, he's creating separation. So most dvs are

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Speaker 4: not going to just let a receiver create separation, so

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Speaker 4: they catch the ball. So that's the part where I'm

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Speaker 2: But public to the public, like, that's the part the

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Speaker 2: public doesn't understand, and that's why I get frustrated because

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Speaker 2: they only see us grab you know what I mean,

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Speaker 2: Like it's like you did, did you not? The reason

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Speaker 2: I have his hand in my hand is because he

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Speaker 2: put it in my chest to push me off. So

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Speaker 2: you're pushing me away. I'm running full speed. If you

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Speaker 2: don't put your hand out, I'm gonna probably run back

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Speaker 2: this ball.

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Speaker 3: Make the play on the ball.

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Speaker 2: But but they think that's okay. They're like, oh, that's

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Speaker 2: all part of the game. If that's part of the game,

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Speaker 2: then my grab is part of the game. Then it's

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Speaker 2: all hand fighting. But you can't see one side as Oh,

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Speaker 2: it's just receivers push off, that's what they're supposed to do.

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Speaker 2: And then I can't defend myself like exactly.

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Speaker 4: And even in London, like you know me, I go

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Speaker 4: up to the rest before the game every game just

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Speaker 4: to you know, say what's up? Ask him like you know,

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Speaker 4: y'all gonna let this play today or is this gonna

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Speaker 4: be a game where you know what I'm saying? And

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Speaker 4: I got to just you know, not not be handsy

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Speaker 4: at all. You know, in London, I already knew he

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Speaker 4: played internationally. I already knew I'm playing against justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 4: I already know these people from another country want to

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Speaker 4: see the gritty, So I already know that they're going

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Speaker 4: to try to, you feel me, give him calls, especially

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Speaker 4: you know, highest paid receiver.

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Speaker 3: So I came into the game just like you know,

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Speaker 3: you can't be handsy.

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Speaker 4: So like the one PI you talk you called where

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Speaker 4: you were talking about where I didn't even touch Bro.

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Speaker 4: It didn't even touch Bro. Didn't touch Bro. He pushed

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Speaker 4: off on me. I let him push me off. And

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Speaker 4: then last minute, I lean a lowk to find the

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Speaker 4: ball and he called a penalty Bro. I was just

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Speaker 4: like flabbergasted.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Game time? Bro? They were cheating y'all that game. Like

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Speaker 2: I rarely watch a game where I'm like, I'm a bias,

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a BDB centric, But in that game,

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there like, Bro, y'all cheating these boys. Y'all

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Speaker 2: can't call all this. Y'all call like three on sauce.

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Speaker 2: That game they called like three on sauce. They called

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Speaker 2: like two on you, and it was nonsense. Calls you

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Speaker 2: You hadn't beat you have to.

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Speaker 3: Leverage, pushed me off. And that's why he pushed.

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Speaker 2: You because you were to his leverage side, like you

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Speaker 2: not gonna call that. Y'all not gonna I understand y'all

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Speaker 2: not calling offensive PI, but don't call God damn hold

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Speaker 2: or no bullshit like that when clearly that's the only

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Speaker 4: I appreciate it, shaf I know you know, I see,

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Speaker 4: I see you tweet out and I tweeted I called it,

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Speaker 4: but I deleted it because I didn't want to get fined.

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Speaker 2: So don't get fined. Yeah, that's what that's what I

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Speaker 2: That was terrible football, and the game is getting away

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Speaker 2: from us. We're starting up. It's too offensive. Like if

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Speaker 2: you're letting him push, don't let them push. Call every

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Speaker 2: and stuff. If they're not pushing you when they call.

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Speaker 2: When we close the gap, then there's nothing. They won't

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Speaker 4: Any exactly Like to me, bro football is an art,

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Speaker 4: like playing dB is an art, Like you have to

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Speaker 4: have tools. We don't really know, like we watch film,

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Speaker 4: but you don't really know one hundred percent what routes

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Speaker 4: So like for me, even playing receiver is an art

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Speaker 4: like running routes like that. It's a beautiful art. I

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Speaker 4: like if a receiver isn't getting open, he could just

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Speaker 4: And it's just like, I just feel like that's taken

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Speaker 2: Bro, they're getting these long PI calls. I mean, we

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Speaker 2: have been called like that's a forty yard penalty.

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Speaker 3: What you mean, I guess an explosive. It's an explosive.

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Speaker 2: It's an explosive, and it's lazy explosive, Like you put

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Speaker 2: would have called that, Like no, we wouldn't have caught

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Speaker 4: And tell you to draw a flag. And I turned

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Speaker 2: But that's like, and that's what I'm saying, Like if

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Speaker 2: the ball. I want you to recognize where my eyes

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Speaker 2: get the flag on you. You're gonna be like, Bro,

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Speaker 2: that's the most the hell no, that we're not gonna

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Speaker 2: make that rule because it's impossible.

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Speaker 3: It's impossible down there.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, we got to get paid more than if

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Speaker 2: To get you paying the receivers more exactly, But how's

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Speaker 2: the family. How's the babies.

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Speaker 4: The family is doing good. Bro just had Brodie. He's

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Speaker 4: about a month now. He's doing very good, like super

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Speaker 3: He's doing well. Bree's doing well. Everybody's doing well.

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Speaker 2: Love that. I love that talk about that transition in

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Speaker 4: It's beautiful, bro And it's also just a I feel

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Speaker 2: That too, speaking of the business side. And you know

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Speaker 2: No appreciate they fire They fired Solah, you know, and

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Speaker 2: it didn't seem like anybody really was prepared for that,

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Speaker 2: did that decision like affect you at all? And did

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Speaker 3: Yeah? It was. You know, it was something I've never experienced.

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Speaker 4: A lot of guys in the locker room we were

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Speaker 4: And for me, how it happened was We're going to

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Speaker 4: like you know, they just fire Solace. So everybody went

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Speaker 3: Too.

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Speaker 4: We all hearing the news so like it was just

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Speaker 4: like like, damn, what's about to happen?

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Speaker 4: So, like once we got down working out, everybody in

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Speaker 2: Said, Yeah, I mean, I don't know many times where

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Speaker 2: I mean, y'all were two and three by to go

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Speaker 3: Like yeah, yeah, what like.

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Speaker 2: Y'all going five?

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Speaker 3: No? For sure?

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Speaker 4: Like I said, I can't really speak on it because

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Speaker 4: I reached out to him just because you know, he

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Speaker 4: So like, you know, I told him, Matt told him

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Speaker 2: Pretty much it, right, right, that's all you can again,

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Speaker 2: like it's a business and you got to deal with that.

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Speaker 2: You know, even if there is some emotional attachment to it,

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Speaker 2: you gotta do your best because you still got again,

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Speaker 2: you got mouths to feed now, so it's a whole

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Speaker 2: different We talked about this when you were younger, like

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Speaker 4: No Mischelle bro But yeah, that that whole situation was,

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Speaker 4: to say the least, interesting, Like coach Ubrick has taken over,

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Speaker 3: Just find out that news.

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Speaker 4: Especially him and Sol over close so they you know,

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Speaker 4: sure he didn't want to be a head coach that way,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. He wanted to go to

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Speaker 4: you know, coach to get fired and him take over

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Speaker 2: How has Brick ben you know, I know again nobody

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Speaker 2: wants this to happen, but he seems to have taken it,

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Speaker 2: Has he been different in the building, like y'all seen

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Speaker 2: it's a lot of us play now, No.

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Speaker 4: For sure, I honest say, one thing about Yubrick that

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Speaker 4: just like you know, we're going to team meetings. It's

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Speaker 4: like tell a truth Monday. He put the film up.

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. The film is gonna speak.

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Speaker 4: So we talked offense, we talked defense, we talked special teams,

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Speaker 4: Pretty much hold it holds everyone to the same standard.

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Speaker 4: As far as like him calling the plays differently, He's

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Speaker 3: But you know, the first week it was just.

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Speaker 4: A lot, Like you could tell it was just a lot,

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Speaker 4: Like he probably didn't sleep much just with you know,

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Speaker 3: So you can kind of see that.

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Speaker 4: And we had to just be patient with like the

437
00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,800
Speaker 4: game plan stuff because he had to you know, figure

438
00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,800
Speaker 4: other stuff out far as like working with the offense

439
00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,760
Speaker 4: now and you know, focusing on special teams as well.

440
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,720
Speaker 3: So he had a lot on his plate.

441
00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,919
Speaker 2: Like you said, how has it been, You know, a

442
00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 2: lot of stuff has happened since they fired Salid Now

443
00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,800
Speaker 2: it seems like they're really trying to all in win.

444
00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:51,919
Speaker 2: They win, got Davonte. Uh, they figured stuff out with

445
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,239
Speaker 2: Hassan Reddick. How has Davante been since he come in?

446
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,959
Speaker 2: I know you you haven't had to deal with him

447
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:00,040
Speaker 2: because you've had the injury, but just I'm sure he

448
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:00,680
Speaker 2: chopped it up.

449
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Speaker 4: Putting, Yeahdavonte's good people's bro on that, explaining he's just

450
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,480
Speaker 4: a cool dude. Maybe because we both from Cali, but

451
00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 4: our first interaction we kind of just clicked like that

452
00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 4: explained like when you click, like it was just something

453
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 4: that's like, oh, he's just a solid dude, pretty vocal

454
00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 4: as far as uh, just with the team. Like he

455
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 4: spoke after the game and he's pretty much was like,

456
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:24,520
Speaker 4: you know, I know I just got here, but like

457
00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 4: this isn't the standard. Like just with the energy of

458
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,560
Speaker 4: last game, with how we played at halftime, we were

459
00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,520
Speaker 4: pretty low and we were up by two points, like

460
00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:37,159
Speaker 4: we was sad about the pick, but it's like we

461
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,600
Speaker 4: up too and we're about to get the ball back.

462
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:41,680
Speaker 4: But the energy, it was like we was down by

463
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Speaker 4: like thirty five. So he was just talking about just

464
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,880
Speaker 4: like the energy just gotta just gotta be up. It's

465
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Speaker 4: not like I feel like a lot of a lot

466
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Speaker 4: of guys, especially guys that were drafted in New York,

467
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 4: we've been losing. So I think it's like when like

468
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,040
Speaker 4: adversity hits, it's like, oh, not this again, you know

469
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Speaker 4: what I mean? When it's football, Like they get pay

470
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,639
Speaker 4: eight millions of dollars to do what they do, so

471
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,400
Speaker 4: you know they're gonna make plays. So I just think

472
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:08,439
Speaker 4: that once we get to the to the mindset of

473
00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,000
Speaker 4: like you know, whatever happens, bro, just focus one play

474
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 4: at a time, reset dominate person in front of you.

475
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,919
Speaker 4: Just detach from the scoreboard, just focus on your your craft.

476
00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:19,360
Speaker 4: I think that's when things is gonna change.

477
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Speaker 2: I agree. I agree. You've been a part of winning culture.

478
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Speaker 2: You've been a part of good cultures, good winning teams.

479
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,159
Speaker 2: So is he, so is so is Aaron. And you know,

480
00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,199
Speaker 2: I've never seen Aaron and the kind of slumpy's in

481
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 2: right now. But I know if anybody's gonna get out

482
00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 2: of it, it's gonna be him, and he's gonna go

483
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 2: sling the rock to get himself out of it. How's

484
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 2: your growing feeling? How you how you feeling now? You're

485
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,160
Speaker 2: getting a little better.

486
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's feeling solid. All had to work out today.

487
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 4: That went really well, so I should be good.

488
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Speaker 2: That's good. That's good. I know. I know they're hurting

489
00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 2: without you, and you know it's hurting you not to

490
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 2: be out there, and that's that's another part that's tough.

491
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 2: But you also got to be careful getting out there,

492
00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,200
Speaker 2: and you're not one hundred percent because like you said,

493
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: your tape is your red man. You get out there

494
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 2: and nobody cared. Nobody's gonna look through all the history

495
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,919
Speaker 2: and be like, oh yeah, he had a growing injury.

496
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks they go and say, hey, he

497
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:08,200
Speaker 2: got cooked up.

498
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 3: Hey we're playing man too. Bro, gotta be somewhat healthy.

499
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: Can't be out there just half stepping at all.

500
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 2: You can't. You can't, you can't. Well, I think your

501
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,000
Speaker 2: defense is playing well obviously, you know, salt Scott a

502
00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 2: little banged up and been kind of in and out

503
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 2: of the lineup during games. Seat tech, you know, but

504
00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:29,520
Speaker 2: overall y'all have been playing really solid football. They need

505
00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: you back. What do you think is going to have

506
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 2: to change to get y'all back on the winning track?

507
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: Y'all got New England this week. In New England, you know,

508
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 2: a game that's a winnable game, but you know it's

509
00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 2: the National Football League. There's no such thing as no guarantees.

510
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,760
Speaker 4: For me, Bro, we got all the talent, Like, like

511
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 4: I just told I think I just told Davonte. I'm like, Bro,

512
00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 4: this is one of the most talented teams other than

513
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,400
Speaker 4: the twenty nineteen team that I was on with you.

514
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 4: That team was built differently, But I'm like, overall, like,

515
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 4: we got a talented team, one of the most talented

516
00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 4: teams I've been on besides twenty nineteen. I I told

517
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 4: them like I told Davonte, like offensively, like y'all are

518
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,720
Speaker 4: way more talented than the twenty nineteen offense that we had.

519
00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 4: I said defensively, though, I was like that D line

520
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 4: in twenty nineteen high and go catalls, like that D.

521
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:14,639
Speaker 3: Line was historical, you know what I'm saying. I'm like

522
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 3: that D line was different.

523
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 4: Like we didn't have to worry about dagger sevens other

524
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 4: than the Super Bowl, but all year we didn't have

525
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 4: to worry about a dagger seven. So I was telling them, like,

526
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 4: we got all the talent we need, but it takes

527
00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 4: so much more than that to just win in the

528
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,920
Speaker 4: National Football League. Like we got to all players one,

529
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 4: we got to play complimentary football, which we haven't been doing.

530
00:23:35,720 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: Look, it ain't nothing no time like the present. And

531
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 2: you know, you never it's a game of runs in

532
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,359
Speaker 2: the National Football League. You know how that is. You

533
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 2: can go run off six seven straight and then everybody

534
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: looking at your whole season different. Nobody remember how it started.

535
00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 2: They just remember how it finishes, and so hopefully it

536
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,480
Speaker 2: finishes the way you guys wanted to finish. You can

537
00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 2: get healthy. I know you're taking care of your body

538
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 2: and doing everything you can you and the old lady

539
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,240
Speaker 2: find anything, you know, for her to do, or she's

540
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 2: just sitting there trying to keep up with these little kids.

541
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: Right now.

542
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:09,200
Speaker 4: She in motherhood right now, she got her hands. But

543
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,119
Speaker 4: it's funny becausehen I come home, I'm hearing two babies crying.

544
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,280
Speaker 4: I'm like, dang, like she been with the babies all day.

545
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,680
Speaker 4: Like I definitely respect like my wife and everything she's doing.

546
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, she just you know, in motherhood right now?

547
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 2: Do you get do you come home and take some

548
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 2: extress off or you better come yeah show.

549
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 4: I come home, I get like an hour with the

550
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 4: kids with the wife, and then I do treatment, whether

551
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 4: it's like the normal text massage or something. But before

552
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,160
Speaker 4: I come home, just dad, just chilling, watch a movie

553
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 4: with my wife, just relax.

554
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, and try to get them in uh and and

555
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 2: like a little daycare or at least a couple of

556
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,439
Speaker 2: hours a day. As soon as you.

557
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 4: We got we got a nanny, so like she gets

558
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 4: she gets some time to herself, so she's not just with.

559
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 3: The kids all day. To keep her saying for show, I'm.

560
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,439
Speaker 2: About to say that's the only way to do it,

561
00:24:55,440 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 2: because be going crazy. Okay, okay, Well, if you got

562
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,320
Speaker 2: anything for me, you know I'm always here for you.

563
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,520
Speaker 3: I appreciate that, bro, and likewise care.

564
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. I know things ain't the way

565
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 2: y'all want it right now during the season, but it'll

566
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 2: it'll turn turn around. You'll get back out there. Good

567
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 2: ball is right in front of y'all. Y'all got two

568
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,960
Speaker 2: winnable games coming up. We'll have y'all in a couple

569
00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,159
Speaker 2: of weeks, So I'll see you in a couple week.

570
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 2: I'll see you Halloween. We'll be out of New York.

571
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: I see if I can wear costume or something.

572
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 3: No, that's gonna be That's gonna be a great game

573
00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 3: for sure.

574
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,439
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, that's gonna be a really good game. And

575
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,359
Speaker 2: again it gives y'all another opportunity to show what y'all

576
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 2: can do on a national setting. But keep your head up,

577
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 2: keep the team positive, do everything you can to get back.

578
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,200
Speaker 3: It'll turn around, got you, bro. I appreciate that, dog.

579
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: Now, I appreciate you all.

580
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 3: Love.

581
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 2: Go go help your old lady and take care of yourself.

582
00:25:48,359 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: Bro. Hello dog, all right, brother, all right. Peace The

583
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Speaker 3: volume