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Speaker 1: Official Jets Podcast is presented by win Bat. Betty's a

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Speaker 1: team sports but together at win Bat. Eric Allen here

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Speaker 1: in the studio with the man backer Bart Scott on

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Speaker 1: the hands looking.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to make sure my knuckles went greasy.

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Speaker 2: And but now it's gonna use something that butter juice

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Speaker 2: I got from that Toulsa I just ate and rubbing in.

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Speaker 3: Nick Mangold, what about your hands?

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Speaker 4: All right? Misformed, fat fingers, but they're they're still kicking.

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Speaker 5: Already swollen from all the sodium you ate in Italy.

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Speaker 4: Nope, they don't use a lot of It's all natural stuff.

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Speaker 5: Natural.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, can you sure.

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Speaker 1: Some of the highlights of your trip to Italy?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, Italy was amazing, you know, beautiful time of year.

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Speaker 6: In October. We went to Rome, did some fun stuff there,

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Speaker 6: went to the original birthplace of the gladiators of the Coliseum.

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Speaker 6: You know, we're really you know, we're modern day guidators, right,

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Speaker 6: So went back to at least we get to lift

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Speaker 6: and you know what they did too. Towards the end,

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Speaker 6: they were paying them so much money that they had

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Speaker 6: to keep them alive. It was more for show in

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Speaker 6: the beginning. It was not no and then we did

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Speaker 6: the Vatican, which was beautiful. Got to see all that.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 6: Then we went up country to Umbria and did a

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Speaker 6: bunch of little towns there, with our home base being in.

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Speaker 4: La Pieve, which took me a while to get but

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Speaker 4: I got it nailed.

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Speaker 3: It was very impressively, Thank you.

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Speaker 6: I had a lot of a lot of apasta, a

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Speaker 6: lot of pizza, and a lot of wine.

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Speaker 3: That sounds like a good trip.

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Speaker 1: You are a world traveler yourself.

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Speaker 5: Art No, not at all, man, You've never been to Italy.

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Speaker 5: Can't afford it? Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: I'm working my way there, you know. I mean I

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Speaker 2: start with like Portugal and I'll work.

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Speaker 4: My way there by all those hermaise belts.

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Speaker 5: See this.

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Speaker 2: This is a smart part one buckle, three belts recycling.

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Speaker 1: Have you guys both watched the movie Glad.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of my favorite movies. When I when

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Speaker 2: I was with Baltimore, they we came out to Gladiator.

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Speaker 2: They had a scene before we came out to tunnel.

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Speaker 2: They talk about, you know, whatever come out of these gates,

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Speaker 2: as long as we stick together, we can make It

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Speaker 2: was like a nice sub production.

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Speaker 5: It was cool.

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Speaker 3: How about you?

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Speaker 5: Oh, I love the movie. It's great.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't use it as a motivational tool for football, but.

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Speaker 5: You just modern day gladiators.

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Speaker 4: We're going to school for you guys. If you guys

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Speaker 4: want to use a movie, was going be fine.

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Speaker 3: You're looking down at those guys.

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Speaker 1: Down in Baltimore, right, Rocky Bobo, what would you what

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Speaker 1: would you use as a motivational movie?

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Speaker 4: I don't need one, okay, internally motivated.

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Speaker 5: Do you have any stur night lights? Didn't.

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Speaker 4: That doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 3: Did you have pre game routines?

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Speaker 5: Uh?

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Speaker 4: No, not really.

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Speaker 1: You weren't superstitious, how about you?

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Speaker 5: No, Noah, I didn't really care.

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Speaker 6: I guess my biggest routine would sit in the doctor's

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Speaker 6: office with the doctors and just kind of chill for

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Speaker 6: like a half hour before getting taped up.

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Speaker 5: Mines was a turtle shot. That was always a fun thing.

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Speaker 5: I don't think you can talk about that anymore.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's statute of limitations were good. Okay, Yeah, don't

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Speaker 2: worry to be a class action suit a little later.

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Speaker 5: Okay, figures crossed.

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Speaker 3: Let's sell some judge. Football four and four.

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Speaker 5: May get uncomfortable.

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Speaker 1: You're not making me uncomfortable. I'm just keeping them. Moving

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Speaker 1: four and four. I had a three ye Winnis streak

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Speaker 1: that came to an end Monday night football against the Chargers.

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Speaker 1: Everybody is talking about the Jets potentially as hey getting

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Speaker 1: that playoff conversation down the line.

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Speaker 3: Now this is the sky is falling.

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Speaker 2: It was disappointing, right because you know what the opportunity was,

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Speaker 2: the opportunity to be only a game half a game back.

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Speaker 2: You know, during your bye week all the teams lost

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Speaker 2: and then they lost. You watched them lose in front

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Speaker 2: of you, and you have an opportunity, and you know

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Speaker 2: in this league you only get so many of them.

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Speaker 2: So you know you had you had the nation's attention.

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Speaker 5: You lost. Now you're four and four.

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Speaker 2: Now you're going to be out of sight, you know,

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Speaker 2: out of mind, and you have to try and get

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Speaker 2: gain that attention again. You have to do take care

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Speaker 2: of your business in the dark so that when you

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Speaker 2: get potentially to the Miami game, it's a real game

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Speaker 2: and let's see if you can handle the success. Because

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Speaker 2: the Jets have handled being the underdog. Let's see if

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Speaker 2: they can handle, you know, success, if success follows them,

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Speaker 2: if they have a good trip out there to los

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Speaker 2: to Las Vegas. And then also if they go up

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Speaker 2: to Buffalo and take care of business because the bottom

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Speaker 2: seems to be falling off from them as well.

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Speaker 5: You can't let them get right against you.

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Speaker 1: Where do you start as far as the offense is concerned,

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Speaker 1: because everybody points a finger at the quarterback and Robert

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Speaker 1: Sala said, hey, listen, he's going to get it. That's

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Speaker 1: just the nature of the position. And he's the most

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Speaker 1: visible player. But he said, right now, it's a collective issue.

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Speaker 1: A lot of guys and a lot of areas got

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Speaker 1: to get better.

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Speaker 4: They do.

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Speaker 6: I mean, you watch that game, and I think that

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Speaker 6: was a one pm game, I don't think anyone would

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Speaker 6: be talking as much about it. But the fact there's

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Speaker 6: Monday night football on the nation stage and you know,

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Speaker 6: to have to be in the conversation and to talking

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Speaker 6: about playoff contentions and everything, and to put up that

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Speaker 5: Is what has made it worse.

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Speaker 6: But they do have a good opportunity this week coming

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Speaker 6: into Vegas and and trying to write the ship, if

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Speaker 6: you will.

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Speaker 5: And it is collective.

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Speaker 4: I mean, we all watched the game.

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Speaker 6: We saw the drops we saw Garrett Wilson had, you know,

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Speaker 6: an un characteristic fumble right which you can't have. You

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Speaker 6: can't have those turnovers. You know, the defense played great

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Speaker 6: and you know, but if you want to critique everybody,

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Speaker 6: you know, we could use more turnovers. And they had

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Speaker 6: a couple opportunities to get the ball and so we

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Speaker 6: gave up a punt return for a touchdown. So there's

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Speaker 6: mistakes across the board that are going to keep you

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Speaker 6: from winning games. And I think everyone realizes with how

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Speaker 6: in every other stage. Because it's we're able to do

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Speaker 6: it on defense, we can do it in other areas.

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Speaker 6: And that's that's going to take a short week to

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Speaker 6: get right. But I think it's all it's a great

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Speaker 6: opportunity on a short week that you can go back

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Speaker 6: to the basics. You know, you don't have time to

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Speaker 6: really drop a bunch of different stuff. You go back

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Speaker 6: to what works and what you know and hopefully get

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Speaker 6: a win out in the desert.

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Speaker 2: And that's what we're talking about right, Like, I don't

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Speaker 2: understand what the identity of the offense is and they've

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Speaker 2: yet to find their identity for this season, and I

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Speaker 2: think they need to find that because if you don't

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Speaker 2: know how we're going to win and what we're going

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Speaker 2: to do as far as philosophy wise, on offense, are

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Speaker 2: we a run the first defense?

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Speaker 5: Are we a pass first defense? Are we a gadget team?

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Speaker 2: Are we a guy that's going to use a lot

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Speaker 2: They have to get an identity because if you ask

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Speaker 2: me almost halfway into the season who the Jets offense are,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, and I don't think they know. And

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Speaker 2: you know, some of that can do with the circumstances

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Speaker 2: But I do know that when you have a young quarterback,

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Speaker 2: it's the responsibility of guys who are paid big money

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Speaker 2: or have been in this league for a long time

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Speaker 2: to elevate him. It's not for him to elevate the

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Speaker 2: other guys around them, right, They supposed to, you know,

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Speaker 2: be able to help carry them, right. Rather, it's offensive

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Speaker 2: Wilson step up because for me, the game plan is

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Speaker 5: And that's just the nature of it. And this is

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Speaker 5: a tough business. This is what it is, right.

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Speaker 2: We deal in black and white, it's no gray, and

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Speaker 2: the reality is we need somebody opposite. And the fact

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Speaker 2: that they were out looking for receivers and trying to

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Speaker 2: make a call for DeVante Adams, trying to make a

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Speaker 2: call for Mike Evans, to me, is an indictment on

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Speaker 2: the other guys not stepping up and elevating and taking

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Speaker 2: or if they're loading the box up. Somebody has to

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Speaker 2: win and step up and make consistent plays for this

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Speaker 1: Eight sacks last week against the Chargers, So everybody's gonna

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Speaker 1: look at the offensive line. You guys definitely aren't doing

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Speaker 1: your jobs. But you watch some film with Joe Tipman

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Speaker 1: who made his first career start at center. Also, Brian Baldinger,

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Speaker 1: Baldy Breakdown, say, McKay Beckton was really good against the Chargers.

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Speaker 3: So it's not five across the board.

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Speaker 1: But for the Jets right now, I think offensively, it's

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Speaker 1: like you guys are talking about, it's a couple different

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Speaker 1: nine going, it's just not gonna work, no, And I think.

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Speaker 6: That's the beauty of what football is is it takes

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Speaker 6: Defense, I think you can have one guy make a

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Speaker 6: but for successful, say run play, you know, you need

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Speaker 6: think that's that's the beauty of the game. But it

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Speaker 6: also makes the game that much more difficult because you

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Speaker 6: do you have one guy slip up and next thing,

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Speaker 6: you know, you got to you know, defensive tackle sitting

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Speaker 6: in the whole. That runs not going to happen. So,

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Speaker 6: you know, I think it is a culmination of everybody.

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Speaker 6: And you know, the offensive line has had injuries and

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Speaker 6: I think trying to find the front five that work

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Speaker 6: also you know, I think as a plan. How can

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Speaker 6: we help those guys out, you know, are we moving

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Speaker 5: Are we bringing tight ends to.

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Speaker 6: Help and seeing where the areas are that we're lacking

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Speaker 6: and how can we cover those up.

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Speaker 2: I think it's time for other guys, some more guys

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Speaker 2: get opportunities. I mean, I want to see Bromley out there.

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Speaker 2: Like you, you have to try everything until it gets fixed.

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Speaker 5: That's why I wouldn't move them.

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Speaker 2: I understand that the other fant in the room is that,

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Speaker 2: He's a veteran, savvy guy. He's seen it all, done

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Speaker 2: Now you have two struggling positions. I'd rather be able

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: It can?

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Speaker 5: Can Can Tipman come solidify the position there? Right?

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Speaker 2: And we have to figure out what we're going to

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Speaker 2: that that that that change at right tackle? Or can

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Speaker 2: Because you think about if Dwayne's there and Tipman's playing

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Speaker 2: I think keep beckting where he deserves and what it

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Speaker 1: I think Tipman is gonna be a really good player

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, you want to have a comfortability with

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Speaker 6: seeing seeing what's going on, it kind of makes me

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Speaker 6: Timman has potential to be a fantastic player, and I

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Speaker 6: And so you know the fact that seeing him work

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Speaker 5: And Max is my guy.

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Speaker 6: You know a lot of people say that the Jets

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Speaker 3: You came right from the pub bithic.

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Speaker 4: Uh No, it was a food fest.

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Speaker 5: Oh my god. It was amazing too.

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Speaker 6: It was under it was like underneath this railroad track

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Speaker 6: could have dumplings, you get ethy open food, you could

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Speaker 6: have like they had American fried chicken. It was like

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Speaker 1: This is interesting because most people over here when they

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Speaker 6: It was a great experience because there was the food

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Speaker 5: The food in London. Yes, because think it's good food.

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Speaker 5: I think I have some good beef. Well it's in there. People.

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Speaker 6: We the pop pies, so we call the pot pies.

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Speaker 6: They just call them pies. But the meat pies unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of diversity in London too, So you

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Speaker 3: A little bit of.

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Speaker 4: Food in London is amazing.

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Speaker 1: Yes, okay, so speaking you said something that caught my ear,

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Speaker 1: not just the food was egotistical maniac. So we got

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Speaker 1: a couple of ones up here and yourself, Ambar Scott

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Speaker 1: played the fifth.

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Speaker 4: I learned from you.

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Speaker 1: You both have that in you like that's interesting. Would

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Speaker 6: I mean, I love I love coaching. I was coaching

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Speaker 6: my kids teams for a little bit. I'm coaching basketball

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Speaker 6: right now, even though I know nothing about basketball country reads,

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Speaker 6: but I get those kids doing the suicide like no

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Speaker 6: one's business. And so the thing that I'm hesitant on

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Speaker 6: want to coach at college because I can't recruit. I

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Speaker 6: and so I would be the worst recruiter of all time.

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Speaker 6: And I don't want to do NFL because there's no

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Speaker 6: you see a position coach stick around for I mean

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Speaker 6: I've heard of like one or two.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well, we've got a little smoke here.

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Speaker 2: Right, a little bit, No, Lion, I'm sorry Leon Leon

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Speaker 2: Washington him, Yes, yeah, he's here.

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Speaker 1: This is what fans appreciate about both of you guys,

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Speaker 1: that you bring it authentic, real and you don't let

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Speaker 4: And Leon's doing a great job and I love it.

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Speaker 6: And I his kids now go over where my kids go,

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Speaker 6: so I could see them, you know, every once in

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Speaker 6: I love it. But at the same time, like there's

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Speaker 6: always that fear that you know, a new head coach

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Speaker 6: comes in and was like, oh, I promise this guy

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Speaker 6: if I got a head coaching job, you would be

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Speaker 5: And you'd be like, let you go. But I know

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Speaker 5: that's why I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: It doesn't decide a football I don't like.

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Speaker 2: I told Rex, if he if he gets the if

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Speaker 2: he gets the Braiders job, or if he gets the

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Speaker 2: if he gets the Chargers job, I'll come out.

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Speaker 5: My kids are getting older.

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Speaker 6: You would I gotta I gotta rolldeck of guys if

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Speaker 6: they called you do it?

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Speaker 4: Hey, can you come coach with me?

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Speaker 1: Like, yeah, you can't leave this area though, either what

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Speaker 1: you can't.

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Speaker 5: I can do it for four months.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, just as long as you stay, because.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's and it's only three guys.

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Speaker 6: Probably that if they called, like, hey, I want you

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Speaker 6: to come coach offensive line.

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Speaker 1: This is what I have such a great appreciation for

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Speaker 1: is that you guys were not only elite players, but

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Speaker 1: you made your homes here and you never left.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you know, you only played for one team.

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Speaker 2: I'm like Algae, I just grow, just growing things, and

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Speaker 2: I don't leave.

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Speaker 5: Lazy too. I'm moving is the worst thing in my life,

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Speaker 5: worst thing ever.

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Speaker 1: All right, so we'll get off your little bit, so

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Speaker 1: we'll get back to the Jets.

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Speaker 3: What do you want the identity to be?

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Speaker 1: Because you said, okay, I don't know what the Jets

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Speaker 5: I think it has to be running the football. I think,

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Speaker 5: you know, you have to establish football. It's about physicality,

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Speaker 5: and you know you have to find ways to run

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Speaker 5: But you know, whatever happened to the double doubles, right?

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Speaker 5: You know double doublecross the board.

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Speaker 2: You know with a back like Breisee and Dalvin and

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Speaker 2: read these stretches right coming off the double teams. Right,

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Speaker 2: we have athletic guys who can move people against their will.

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Speaker 2: We like to use these tight ends. We like to

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: The toughest play that I always had to stop, like

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Speaker 5: Off of it.

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Speaker 2: There's no way that Zach Willis should ever throw the

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Speaker 1: It's interesting prior to the Chargers give in his last

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Speaker 3: Than twenty completions.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you think about like even you look

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Speaker 2: He's a totally different beast. But most of these guys

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Speaker 6: I mean, you talk about the double teams in the

444
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Speaker 6: run game, which are fantastic and you know you love

445
00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,200
Speaker 6: to see him, but you have to work at them.

446
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:53,480
Speaker 5: They don't just happen.

447
00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,840
Speaker 6: And so with all the shuffling that has happened on

448
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 6: the offensive line, it does make it difficult to pull off,

449
00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:02,160
Speaker 6: because that's what you perfect, you know, in training camp

450
00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,720
Speaker 6: is when you're working on it, when you have those

451
00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:08,160
Speaker 6: twenty minute individual drill individual time that all you're doing

452
00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:08,720
Speaker 6: is you're.

453
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Speaker 5: Working on all.

454
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,160
Speaker 6: Right, here's how If this guy is on your shoulder,

455
00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,440
Speaker 6: here's how we're attacking him to get up to the linebacker.

456
00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,720
Speaker 6: If he's on your eyeball, here's how we're attacking. If

457
00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 6: he's head up, here's how we're attacking. So you go

458
00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:19,960
Speaker 6: through all these scenarios and you work on them and

459
00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,320
Speaker 6: you grind him. And so when you aren't able to

460
00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,119
Speaker 6: have all those reps with the same guys, it doesn't

461
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Speaker 6: make it tricky. And so it's just it's one of

462
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,920
Speaker 6: those learning curve things that you have to get through.

463
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,639
Speaker 6: But yeah, I think now where we are as a

464
00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,200
Speaker 6: team and sitting here at four and four, I think

465
00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:41,720
Speaker 6: we do need to be run first, play action, move

466
00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,560
Speaker 6: the pocket screens, you know, get him, get the ball

467
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:49,800
Speaker 6: out quick. And because that's just that's the nature of

468
00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:51,639
Speaker 6: the beast, and we're gonna have to run through the

469
00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,040
Speaker 6: smoke of an overloaded box.

470
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Speaker 3: So but fans at home want to hear this.

471
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Speaker 1: I want to tell you what they're going to say,

472
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Speaker 1: is that they just don't want you coming out run

473
00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 1: run past third down? Can you still emphasize the run,

474
00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:13,120
Speaker 1: but maybe take a open approach on that first down

475
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,880
Speaker 1: where go ahead.

476
00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 2: You mirror, you mirror the plays up right, the same

477
00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:20,120
Speaker 2: plays you run out of Jumbo. You can run out

478
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,080
Speaker 2: of different personnels, right, You can run out of different things,

479
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:25,800
Speaker 2: like if people want to load the box up, then

480
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 2: you spread them out and run the same play.

481
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,040
Speaker 5: You can run power plays because they have to. They

482
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 5: have to adjust to you.

483
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:33,439
Speaker 2: So if you come out and you come out with

484
00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 2: three wives, but essentially that's just the tight end. He's

485
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,560
Speaker 2: going to take a body with them, right, and they

486
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 2: decide to go, they had and make them have to

487
00:21:40,520 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 2: make tough decisions. Do I come out and do I

488
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,880
Speaker 2: match this with my big nickel or do I come

489
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 2: out and have my linebacker that's kind of a tweetter

490
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: come play dime or do I bring in my true

491
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,960
Speaker 2: dime that's coming in here. And all you're doing is matching.

492
00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,119
Speaker 2: You got two plays, right, If they come out here

493
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,960
Speaker 2: with this slow linebacker, spread them out, let's let's work

494
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,159
Speaker 2: the matchups. If they decide to come out here and

495
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:03,520
Speaker 2: they come with the finesse squad. Then we can run power.

496
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,800
Speaker 2: You can run power out of three wides right, you

497
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 2: can run you know, stretch and man plays, you know

498
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: in double teams and pull you know, we see Travis kept,

499
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:13,400
Speaker 2: I mean, Jason Kelce do it all the time.

500
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 5: Like they spit out.

501
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 2: He'd say, Okay, they overloaded to the right on this

502
00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:20,639
Speaker 2: certain front, that this overfront, or they're in the rush front.

503
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,040
Speaker 2: Now I'm just going I got the ankle right now

504
00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: because i got a guy in my a gap, I'm

505
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 2: gonna hit the guard and I'm gonna beat a puller

506
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 2: to the open side.

507
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 5: And it's still a power run. So you can still

508
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 5: disguise it.

509
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,280
Speaker 2: But you do the same plays and let them get

510
00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 2: good at it, but just do it out of different

511
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:34,639
Speaker 2: personnel groups.

512
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:39,439
Speaker 6: It doesn't being run oriented, doesn't mean lining up with

513
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,200
Speaker 6: a true full back and the tailback tight end and

514
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 6: you know the ground and pound of the Rex Ryan days.

515
00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 6: Because you can do it, like Bart's saying, just out

516
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,560
Speaker 6: of any formation. You can manipulate it. So you're running

517
00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 6: the same plays like you have the weak side zone

518
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 6: play out of every formation. Just whether or not you

519
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:03,919
Speaker 6: want to add a throw into it at a bubble

520
00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:06,639
Speaker 6: screen off of it, and there's multiple things you do.

521
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,199
Speaker 6: So I think when when people do say, you know,

522
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 6: run oriented, I think everyone always thinks like, oh, we

523
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 6: got to bring in like an extra tackle, make it

524
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:16,880
Speaker 6: tight end and full back and everything.

525
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 5: But that's not necessarily the case.

526
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 2: Bubble screen is a run play, right, you know what

527
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 2: I mean you talk about you know, they try to

528
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 2: get the screen game going. They had a big opportunity,

529
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,640
Speaker 2: you know, work on you on your individual individual screen games, right,

530
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 2: and you know it's it's about being creative.

531
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 5: Right.

532
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:34,680
Speaker 2: You have to understand we have to stop and say

533
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,440
Speaker 2: this is what we have and put guys in positions

534
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Speaker 2: to do what they do well.

535
00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 5: Like we I like to see.

536
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 2: I love that Isavia Gibson got got some balls, you know,

537
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: but also you got these you know reverses. His his

538
00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:49,440
Speaker 2: thing is getting him in space. He's a punt return,

539
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 2: get him in space. Right, you talk about you know,

540
00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:54,919
Speaker 2: wide receiver screens, Garrett Wilson, that's something he can do.

541
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:56,160
Speaker 5: He can run after the catch.

542
00:23:56,240 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 2: Right, those are high percentage completions, right you talk about

543
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 2: I mean I usually love your chan Gailey middle screen.

544
00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 5: That's a beautiful play.

545
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,719
Speaker 2: Right, because it sets up everything very well, especially against

546
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 2: you know, you know, aggressive type of people. Football doesn't change,

547
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: man like you can pull up anything from back in

548
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 2: the day and modernize it. And I think that's the

549
00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 2: challenge that nathing you Hackett has to get. He has

550
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,959
Speaker 2: to get guys that's a reliable like this is what

551
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,200
Speaker 2: he do, like Reether, It's gonna be Taylor, Okay, you're

552
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,520
Speaker 2: the vertical guy. We're gonna run. We're gonna run you

553
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,320
Speaker 2: off and clear out for everybody and work off of you.

554
00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:30,960
Speaker 5: Right.

555
00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,679
Speaker 2: And I still want to see Rutger get more opportunities

556
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: to catch the ball and be more receiver because I

557
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 2: think when he's out there, the run game is better, right,

558
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,719
Speaker 2: And sometimes those are tough conversations, but I think, you know,

559
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:43,720
Speaker 2: if it's not working, I think it's time for him

560
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,480
Speaker 2: to get an opportunity to see if he can do it.

561
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:45,920
Speaker 5: Right.

562
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 2: You got to create that environment and competition. You just

563
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 2: don't get to get the spot because your contract dictates

564
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 2: it or because you've been here you're a veteran. Like

565
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 2: I love this time of year because this time of

566
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 2: year is always when a young guy, as the unsung heroes,

567
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 2: usually come up this is the time where Sion.

568
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,439
Speaker 5: Green started to pick up steam. You know what I mean.

569
00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:05,960
Speaker 5: I was funny.

570
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: I was actually with Thomas Jones, like last week yeah,

571
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,760
Speaker 2: last weekend, Donnie Miami.

572
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Speaker 3: No, yes he is.

573
00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:13,880
Speaker 5: He's good doing this thing.

574
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,639
Speaker 2: He has, uh he has like two series that produce

575
00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:20,520
Speaker 2: interacted as well. Yeah yeah, so yeah, he said, you

576
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 2: don't work out that much like straight. Like granted his

577
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:25,439
Speaker 2: brother's there too, so it's genetic. Because I touched both

578
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: of them, they muscles feel different.

579
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 5: Really, I feel like.

580
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 2: They got an anomaium under there was the stuff that

581
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: Wo Maverene got unerneath.

582
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 4: His justice would let you touching brothers.

583
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know he's hugging them up. You know what

584
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 5: I'm saying.

585
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Friday afternoons on the boards downstairs, it was arms, the

586
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:41,640
Speaker 1: TV arms.

587
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 5: It was always TV arms, always was TV arm.

588
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 4: Bro.

589
00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 2: Like I told him, like, when you get as big

590
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 2: as your t you won, bro, You're good like who

591
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:51,199
Speaker 2: you compete with.

592
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 5: Now at this point you won game over hey.

593
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: So I think that is a good point about the Jets.

594
00:25:56,080 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: First potentially explosive options. When you're talking about Garrett Wilson Priest.

595
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 1: We know about those guys, but Xavier Gibson very good

596
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: in space. If Brownly does get an opportunity, what we

597
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 1: saw here in the spring in the summer is that

598
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,640
Speaker 1: he can go up and get those contested catches.

599
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,080
Speaker 3: You're not your.

600
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: Rucker as far as a tight end his concerned.

601
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 3: He's a highly athletic tight end.

602
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,960
Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying.

603
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,080
Speaker 2: And I would love to see Taylor in the slot

604
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 2: because listen, this this is the thing, right we lazy.

605
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 2: There's a lot of guys that's gonna be lazy this

606
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 2: time of year. They read the sky and report, but

607
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: they don't really reread this Kundport Like they don't know

608
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: who the starters are. They see this guy Tailor, they're like,

609
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:40,960
Speaker 2: oh this barbecue chicken. Put him in the slot.

610
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, take off. That's how get easy, easy explosive plays.

611
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 2: Right, They need to find a way to get easy

612
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 2: scores and you get that. Yeah, you know, I got

613
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,240
Speaker 2: guys got options like, oh man, yeah I should be

614
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,399
Speaker 2: kind of reading. But wife, he got me tripping about

615
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 2: what I got to do for Thanksgiving. I gotta go

616
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 2: pick up my mom from the air for my family

617
00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 2: come out of town. Yeah, like I noticed starters like,

618
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 2: oh crap, who's this dude?

619
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 5: Man? He like a bump?

620
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: I ain't ever Oh my god, hell you know what

621
00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:10,320
Speaker 2: I mean. That's how you sneak up on people this

622
00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 2: time of year.

623
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 1: Is this a tricky game when you're talking about the

624
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: Raiders because obviously just made the coaching change, they won

625
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: big over the Giants and Giants team moment made by Andrew.

626
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 2: But they ran the ball on this Giants team that

627
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 2: had been playing lights out. So beware, this ain't the

628
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 2: same Raiders team that you saw on film. Because you

629
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: go back three games, you're going you you look at

630
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: the other games, it's not indicative of who they are.

631
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Now, what do you think about the spot here Antonio

632
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: Pierceley and the Raiders?

633
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 6: Now, I think we're I think we're actually in a

634
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 6: good spot here because I think coming off the firing

635
00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:49,359
Speaker 6: of Daniel Josh, yeah Josh, you know they gave him

636
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 6: the bump, But I think that bump doesn't last.

637
00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 4: Sugari Yeah, it's a sugar high, okay, And so coming in.

638
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 6: Off of what we we have to deal with in

639
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 6: the Monday night game, I don't like that it's a.

640
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 4: Travel on a short week.

641
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,000
Speaker 6: I don't mind the short week, but having to travel

642
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 6: that far does kind of stink a little bit. But

643
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 6: it also I hope it gives the guys a chance to,

644
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 6: you know, depending on whether or not they go out

645
00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 6: the day before or two days before going out Saturday,

646
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 6: all right, so getting the rest at home and then

647
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 6: you know, getting the opportunity to erase what happened Monday night.

648
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 6: And that's a great motivator to be able to kind

649
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 6: of avenge what was shown, especially on a national stage.

650
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 6: Again on a national stage, So I think it's a

651
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 6: I think it's a could be a good spot.

652
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: The Jets defense matches up with anybody, but when you

653
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: look at this Raiders offense, they got weapons.

654
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: You imagine Jacobs to Kobe Myers man.

655
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: And now because of the fact that Josh has been fired,

656
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, ren few who they paid, who

657
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: was a highly productive player, has come to life.

658
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: So got Refro, got Davante and leads with five touchdowns.

659
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,400
Speaker 1: So so they do have some guys think about aight

660
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 1: and O'Connell though he's a really accurate passer, but he's.

661
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 3: He's a statue.

662
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 5: He knows he knows this, he knows what's about to happen.

663
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Speaker 2: He knows that this pass rush is coming, and you know,

664
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Speaker 2: he's not a guy like you said that's going to

665
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 2: take off and run be much of a threat. But

666
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 2: he probably will try, but he's gonna believe in his

667
00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 2: arm and say, I got a better chance if I

668
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: stay in his pocket and try and throw it down

669
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 2: the field and let these guys run, because I don't

670
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 2: want to take no hits, right And if you do that,

671
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 2: you get Jimmy g back in which I much rather

672
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: go against eight and O'Connell. So I want to sit

673
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 2: in there and get him skittish and see if I

674
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 2: can get some balls out of his hands and get

675
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: some short fields, you know, and get some get some

676
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 2: fumbles right because he's maybe burping the baby a little bit,

677
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 2: get some opportunities to kind of get after him and

678
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: get the ball out of his hands.

679
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Speaker 3: I know they're all big.

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Speaker 1: Let's not here, how big of a game is this

681
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:02,320
Speaker 1: for the Jets?

682
00:30:02,360 --> 00:30:03,240
Speaker 3: Just to get right?

683
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 1: You're reaching the season's midway point at halftime, essentially this

684
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: game seventeen game seasons, eight and a half games, and

685
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: I have an opportunity to go five and four. If

686
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,760
Speaker 1: you lose your four and five and then they can't

687
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: do it, but we can.

688
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 3: We're gonna look what's on deck.

689
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: You're going to Buffalo and I know that's the team

690
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: that's really struggling but still potentially dangerous. And then you

691
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: got Miami coming here on the first Black Friday game

692
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 1: in NFL history.

693
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's a great opportunity game, you know, I

694
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 6: don't I don't think any game is a must win

695
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 6: until you're in a mathematical situation or in a playoff, like.

696
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 5: We must win this or we don't go further.

697
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 6: But it is definitely a very important game, I think

698
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,760
Speaker 6: for the season, for the spot that we're in for

699
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 6: losing the Monday Night to the Chargers, now having another

700
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:58,200
Speaker 6: AFC game in primetime, it's definitely a very important game.

701
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,080
Speaker 3: What would you label it?

702
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 5: I mean, it's the next one in a step, right.

703
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: You think about FC opponents, you know, you think about

704
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 2: tie breakers, you think about the opportunity to get to

705
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 2: the postseason. These are the games you have to have, right,

706
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 2: you know, we always say that with Brian Billigs, always

707
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 2: say win the games you're supposed to win. Split with

708
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: the good teams. That's usually a recipe for twelve and

709
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: four back in the day. So now you talk about

710
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 2: the recipe potentially for thirteen and four, right, and that's

711
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: what you have to do. So you lost a game

712
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: you're supposed to win, so now you got to go

713
00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: back and get that game, right, But this game is

714
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: supposed to win, So that means now potentially you got

715
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 2: to beat Buffalo and Miami. I'm talking about being able

716
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: to try and win a division, right. If you want

717
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: to try and win a division, you have to try

718
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: and start winning and playing your best football. We always

719
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: say November is to dash for the cash, right. You

720
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: know everybody thinks about December, but no, November is where

721
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: the cream starts to rise to the top.

722
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers was speaking your language this week.

723
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 5: He said, a.

724
00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: Few fortnights fortnights potentially as far as Sam come back.

725
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: Do you guys, are you just watching this from Afar

726
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 1: and hear him speak if the Jets are in it

727
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: in mid late December, do you think it's gonna happen?

728
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 6: I would be surprised, just medically. I mean, Aaron has

729
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 6: made it his goal to prove everyone wrong, and so

730
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 6: you know, God willing, he could do it. It'll be intriguing.

731
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: You know.

732
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 6: I wish you would have used some scores in there too,

733
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 6: maybe a four score a couple of days.

734
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:33,560
Speaker 5: But the Fortnite was nice. It was a good touch.

735
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 3: Did you like Fortnite?

736
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,640
Speaker 5: I don't even know what Fortnite is. It's a video game.

737
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 3: It's well, there is a true video game.

738
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,840
Speaker 5: Yes, let me say a Fortnite. I thought he's someble that.

739
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: No, he's saying two weeks is a fortnight? Okay, yeah,

740
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 1: a few fortnights, so we could be.

741
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,400
Speaker 2: Six eight maybe, I mean, I mean for me, for me,

742
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 2: you think about see those two are intellectual on a

743
00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 2: different level.

744
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 3: Well you went to Ohio State.

745
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, State University, thank you. Yeah, yeah, we got all

746
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 5: we got all the play calls. We had them for years.

747
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: This is interesting.

748
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 5: I'm from Michigan. I grew up a Michigan fan. Michigan now, yeah,

749
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 5: I'm from Michigan. I grew up like, where did you

750
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 5: play collegeball? So Illinois?

751
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 2: I didn't, but I committed to Michigan State on the

752
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 2: reason I didn't go on the reason.

753
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 5: Michigan State, Michigan fan, but Michigan, but Michigan off. Michigan

754
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 5: offered me could No, I didn't.

755
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: I didn't go there because Larry Foot went there and

756
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 2: he's my rival, so I refused to be a teammate

757
00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: of his.

758
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: I wanted to be opponent so all.

759
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 2: The So Larry, we were high school rivals, so like

760
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: we both played the same position.

761
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 5: So we've been compared to each other that our entire lives?

762
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 2: Are you claiming in Michigan though, I'm I've always been

763
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,760
Speaker 2: like a bolsham bagler Desmond Howard fan. You know a

764
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 2: train I grew up. I grew up like you know,

765
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,040
Speaker 2: a Michigan fan. Right, I went to the Michigan camp

766
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: and all that stuff.

767
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 5: And you guys are cheating whatever.

768
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, cheam, you ain't trying. It's exactly you

769
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying exactly. I mean, listen, just because

770
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: I know some of your calls. I mean I know

771
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: your call.

772
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 5: Listen.

773
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 4: Here's the thing. Yes, we have lost the last two

774
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 4: years and it's not pretty coming back.

775
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 5: Baby, Listen, I listen.

776
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 2: I don't mind you guys talking, because maybe that can

777
00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: be the difference. But come on, Perdue, you think they

778
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 2: need your your sickness to beat your ass? Come on, man,

779
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: you stay in your place.

780
00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: Let's lay off for Purdue. They got a really good

781
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,640
Speaker 1: basketball team this year, and let's end there.

782
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 4: This was fun they do. I've gotten big into college basketball.

783
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 3: You Zach Eaty, he's crazy.

784
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,880
Speaker 4: I didn't pay attention to it all. Would barely pay

785
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 4: attention to the tournament.

786
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: But now you're a basketball coach.

787
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 5: Yeah.

788
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 6: Well and because of uh good friends that win beat

789
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 6: being able to bet on the tournament sucked in.

790
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 5: See the thing.

791
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 4: Actually, now I'm watching a regular season.

792
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:53,320
Speaker 5: It's a coach for Purdue.

793
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 3: Is he's no, he's tall, No.

794
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: No, No. Two of the coach. Two of the coaches

795
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: there was from Soul, Illinois. No, no, no, no no.

796
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 2: I'm a nomad, no mad, you know what I mean.

797
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:13,040
Speaker 2: But the fact that I think college basketball is going

798
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 2: to go up more because with the NIL deals, I

799
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: think college players are going to stay in school longer

800
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 2: because they know they can make money. So I think

801
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 2: n I L is good in that regard that you

802
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:25,160
Speaker 2: know you're going to have guys that are making money

803
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 2: that may stay that extra year because they may say, hey,

804
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 2: I'm a third round draft pick, but I'm getting this

805
00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 2: money right now, and I'm a popular college player. So

806
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,120
Speaker 2: I think in that regard, it can be good even

807
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: though all these other coaches are hating because it's because

808
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 2: their their competitive advantage was their boosters and the fact

809
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,920
Speaker 2: that they had people that can pay more money. Now

810
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 2: that the playing fielders level, now they have to actually

811
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 2: compete and do their damn job. So now you hear

812
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: people like Clemson and Alabama complaining because now nobody wants

813
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 2: to go live in Alabama.

814
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 3: Where else are you getting?

815
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Speaker 1: On tourism tips the Jets rate R's preview Food tips,

816
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:11,520
Speaker 1: also a big breakdown of nil college basketball, and we

817
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: even dipped into Michigan sign stealing

818
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Speaker 4: H