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Speaker 3: We are live from the Cowboys Club at the Star

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Speaker 3: and Frisco. I'm Bobby Belt from one oh five through

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Speaker 3: the Fan Tonight. I'm joined by my fan teammate Fred Davis.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: As always, we've got the three time Super.

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Speaker 3: Bowl champ and six time Pro Bowler Nate Newton here

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Speaker 3: with us and our guest tonight is an alum from

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Speaker 3: Albany State. He is a two time Super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 3: He is former Cowboys defensive back Kenny the Shark gan Y.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, I'm happy to be here, man, absolutely so.

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Speaker 3: I want to start off, you know, we always tend

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Speaker 3: to do these things, is as a look back at

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Speaker 3: kind of your career and how you got started. And

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Speaker 3: I know when you got to Albany State you were

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Speaker 3: a guy who initially in high school you played on

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Speaker 3: the offensive side of the ball. And I feel like

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Speaker 3: we've gotten so many guys lately, Nate, last year or

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Speaker 3: just even to start this year, We've got guys who

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Speaker 3: were offensive players who ended up making the switch to

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Speaker 3: college or defensive players who made the switch. What got

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Speaker 3: you on the defensive out of the ball away from receiver?

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sorry to say this, but I was a

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh still a fan. Oh no, that's not gonna do.

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Speaker 4: I know who. But I was not so much to

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Speaker 4: hands to match him. I got big hands. So I

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Speaker 4: went for a receiver and I turned out pretty good.

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Speaker 4: And I was one of the top receivers in the

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Speaker 4: state in eighty six. And and then when I got

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Speaker 4: to college, they switched me to Denison back.

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Speaker 3: But thank god for that was there was there any

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Speaker 3: bit of that for you that was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a pretty good receiver, y'all should just let

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Speaker 3: me do what I'm good at here.

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Speaker 4: That's what I wanted. See, I was. I was a

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Speaker 4: church boy and a choir kid, and uh so when

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Speaker 4: I got to college, I didn't have my parents around,

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Speaker 4: so I wanted to I wanted to score touchdowns because

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Speaker 4: I knew the girls always hollered.

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Speaker 2: That's the other day out.

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Speaker 5: So and so you make that move to the defensive

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Speaker 5: not everybody can make that adjustment, right, and so you

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Speaker 5: racing process take and then you know, because not everybody's

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Speaker 4: Yes, well, I I was well in literally until I

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Speaker 4: got to high school. I played middle linebacker. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: I was on defense.

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Speaker 2: I had defensive.

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Speaker 4: Cha, I had defensive.

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Speaker 2: Because let's be real, and everybody wants to hit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I mean, let's call

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Speaker 5: it what it is. So there's there is that. That's

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Speaker 4: I wanted to hit to get out of my dad's house. Whatever,

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Speaker 6: Okay, So what other sports along the way?

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Speaker 4: I mean, well, I didn't like any other sports, but

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Speaker 4: And I ran the open four hundred meter wow. And

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Speaker 2: You're relay guy, what leg.

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Speaker 7: I was.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now, when you got to college, there is a

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Speaker 3: very famous connection for you, I know, because you were

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Speaker 3: That's undrafted free agent. But you actually got a little

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Speaker 4: Well, I got to tell you what, he's still talking

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Speaker 4: He was the defense.

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Speaker 3: Well we're talking with Kenny the Shark Gant and I

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Speaker 3: I know that one of the things that Nate had

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Speaker 2: Upping the toughness in the competition.

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Speaker 3: And that was one of the guys that you were

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Speaker 3: again yourself, Why was that something for you that that

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Speaker 3: Did you feel like it was because hey, ninth round

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Speaker 4: Either I'm gonna make you better or you're gonna make

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Speaker 4: Either you're gonna make me better, I'm gonna make you better,

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Speaker 3: I love one of the aspects of when you guys

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Speaker 3: accepted quick. There was not gonna be any of that's

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Speaker 3: you guys have talked before John Geesick, just like as

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Speaker 2: Is that something that you feel.

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Speaker 3: Like is lost at all the day in today's NFL

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Speaker 3: something that Brian schatinghimerstrand to established right now.

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Speaker 4: I think he's trying to establish it. And I love

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Speaker 4: And I gave him a picture of the shark. I

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Speaker 8: I just believe this and Uh, we didn't have a

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Speaker 6: But I know that we've had guys that got money.

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Speaker 8: Yes, and a younger guy came in and he gave

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Speaker 8: The coach has at Seattle is the same way. Don't

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Speaker 8: once we get on the field. Okay, you okay, you

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Speaker 8: gave him four mil. He's not the better player. This

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Speaker 8: one point five is your better players. Now you're gonna

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Speaker 8: stem in his growth and his and his ability to

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Speaker 8: help this team because you gave him four mil. Yes, no, man, no, no,

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Speaker 8: no play the best player in that way.

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Speaker 6: Competition is always there.

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Speaker 8: Yes, But when a guy be like man, no matter

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Speaker 8: what I do, they just paid him four mil or

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Speaker 8: five mil, he gonna he gonna play. That should not

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Speaker 8: be once you start the season, you got to play

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Speaker 8: the better play.

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Speaker 2: Yes, Albulty state, that's a wond double a school.

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Speaker 4: Yes.

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Speaker 5: Okay, so how much of when you got to the Cowboys? Yes,

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Speaker 5: was there any concern of all right, the speed's little

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Speaker 5: gonna be a little bit different, physicality is gonna be

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Speaker 5: a little bit different. Like your Bobby alluded to your

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Speaker 5: a ninth round draft pick, right, which we don't even

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Speaker 5: have anymore. So how much was going through your mind

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Speaker 5: of okay, just gonna be a different level and oh,

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Speaker 5: by the way, it's the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: Well that's a good question too, But I really didn't.

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Speaker 4: When you when you dream stuff as a kid, it

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Speaker 4: doesn't bother you. You know, they put on their pants.

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Speaker 4: Football football is football. And I found out when I

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Speaker 2: What was that moment when you came in You were like,

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, just jamming somebody up on it. Because I

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Speaker 3: I remember last ye year he said, he said, yeah,

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Speaker 4: He called me Kenny. It was it was going down.

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Speaker 3: You talk about all four special teams and the impact

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Speaker 3: How depleting or what a boost that can be when

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Speaker 2: I'm Bobby vald from one FI Van.

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Speaker 3: Tonight, I'm joined by my teammate at one five through

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Speaker 3: the van, Fred Davis. We've got the three time Super

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Speaker 3: tonight we were joined by the two time Super Bowl champion,

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Speaker 3: Kenny the Shark Gant and you were just doing it there.

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Speaker 2: Kenny you had the Shark Cup for us, So this

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Speaker 3: I think I've heard you talk about it before that

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Speaker 3: this is something that actually was started in practice as

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Speaker 4: Basically, yes, and it was it was we had to

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Speaker 4: And but Michael's always tell you he never nobody's never

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Speaker 4: with this new shark dance and it just took off. Wow.

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Speaker 4: It was crazy.

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Speaker 3: And I know one of the things that you said,

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Speaker 2: Like anticipating that.

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Speaker 3: And I remember I talked a while back to Phillip Tanner,

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Speaker 3: how much that kind of stuff? Is that the sort

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Speaker 3: you don't have any clue how when he flies down

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Speaker 8: The thing about it is, Kenny, what you ran in

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Speaker 8: the forty four See that wasn't known, No, that wasn't.

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Speaker 6: Known, and.

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Speaker 8: It wasn't a guy, especially if he got past that

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Speaker 6: He used to be lineman back there, So how's a

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Speaker 8: This dude at that blaze the speed that he can

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Speaker 2: So they did they not have? I mean I know

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Speaker 11: So what did you have to do? Just do like

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Speaker 4: Yes, at my own school. So we had a full back,

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Speaker 4: So that's why I ran track. So when they drove

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Speaker 2: So you and you nineteen ninety right, so let's call

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Speaker 5: It wasn't like you didn't have the internet back then,

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Speaker 2: So how did you I mean, did you have to

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Speaker 12: Like?

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Speaker 2: How did they know who Kenny Ghant was?

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Speaker 4: Well, what happened when I was running track? The fullback

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Speaker 5: So you mean, okay, so let let's just just take

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Speaker 3: You know, it's fascinating when you talk about too, like

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Speaker 2: How do I get that but you got to.

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Speaker 4: Learn learn where you fit in at because I knew

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Speaker 6: Legally illegally ride by knocking out.

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Speaker 4: Right illegal now yeah right, and he he would do

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's so I knew none of the guys

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Speaker 4: what branch? What I want to the hardest thing?

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Speaker 6: You look for?

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Speaker 2: You look for the challenge.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted the challenge.

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Speaker 3: be able as a coach like Brian Schottenheimer today to

444
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Speaker 3: foster some of that humility and hunger that you had

445
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Speaker 3: that said give me anything, I'll do anything, and I

446
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Speaker 3: will I will be damn good at it.

447
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 4: Yes, well, I had a lot of motivation because I've

448
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:37,600
Speaker 4: seen Jimmy cut the third rounds or turn rids. You

449
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 4: just got to get run at some you got to

450
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Speaker 4: get rid of some of the the riff rath just

451
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Speaker 4: the riff the path. He trimmed it without no hesitation.

452
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Speaker 4: So I guess say, I had the ability to play,

453
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,160
Speaker 4: but I was scared to lose my job, so I did.

454
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Speaker 4: I did more than was asked of me.

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Speaker 3: There were very few I know you guys have all

456
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Speaker 3: said this, there were very few Jimmy guys. But I've

457
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:09,800
Speaker 3: heard Kenny was a Jimmy guy on Nate. From your

458
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Speaker 3: perspective when you would see those guys, what made the

459
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Speaker 3: Jimmy guy? What made somebody a Jimmy guy?

460
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Speaker 6: All out, all out, all out, man?

461
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Speaker 2: It was you know.

462
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Speaker 8: Bill Bates was the most one of the most limited guys.

463
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Speaker 8: I know, well for two or three years all he

464
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Speaker 8: was a special teams and he was all out. Oh

465
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 8: so this kid was way a greater athlete and he

466
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:41,679
Speaker 8: could play slot and had the ability to play outside.

467
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Speaker 6: So he was a true asset to the team, and

468
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,640
Speaker 6: he was always wide open. That's the Jimmy's guy.

469
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Speaker 8: Michael Irvin wasn't the greatest wide receivers, but he was

470
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Speaker 8: wide open all the time.

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Speaker 6: Troy Aikman ultra focused, Nate Newton no always had.

472
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Speaker 3: But you know, you said something and it is stuck

473
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Speaker 3: with me. You said this two years ago, and I've

474
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Speaker 3: repeated this so many times. Whatever people are talking about,

475
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:07,920
Speaker 3: does love the game matter?

476
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Speaker 2: How much? Does does culture matter? Different things like that.

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Speaker 3: The thing that stuck with me is you've said I

478
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: was not a pro Bowl player until I saw Troy

479
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Speaker 3: Aikman work and I went, I'm not gonna be the

480
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Speaker 3: reason he his hard work is wasted.

481
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Speaker 8: I'm not.

482
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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna do that on How do you get

483
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Speaker 2: that level of buying like.

484
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Speaker 3: On a team these days where you get the guys

485
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Speaker 3: like Kenny who are showing you here's my hard work

486
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 3: and you're leveling up other people.

487
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Speaker 2: How do you how do you get that kind of

488
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Speaker 2: buy in in today's NFL.

489
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Speaker 6: When no one slacks?

490
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Speaker 4: Yeah?

491
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Speaker 8: When when when your star players, all your hardest working players,

492
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Speaker 8: Troy Emmit, Mike Tony Tobert.

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Speaker 6: Russell, Maryland, I'm telling you guys that's drafted fourth and

494
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Speaker 6: fourth and own up.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know.

496
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Speaker 6: But when you got a bunch of guys that's drafted

497
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Speaker 6: in the first round, second.

498
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Speaker 8: Round, third round, and they don't care, and they visibly

499
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Speaker 8: show you care, you know you you hollering and screaming,

500
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 8: and they like, okay, all right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So when you guys here, like for instance, Cedee Lamb

503
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Speaker 3: has three drops against Philadelphia, it was it was a

504
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Speaker 3: critical thing. When you find out like the next day

505
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Speaker 3: on a Friday, it's it's Sean Heimers talking about Cede

506
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:22,879
Speaker 3: was here on an off today. He was on the

507
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 3: jugs machine for an hour, right like he was. He's like,

508
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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna have that happening again. Does that make

509
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 3: an impact to guys around the team? Like do you

510
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:30,520
Speaker 3: guys see that and going like all right, I know

511
00:27:30,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 3: he's not He's not gonna slack here.

512
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Speaker 2: He's here putting in his time.

513
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Speaker 8: But ce cd was see I didn't even want to

514
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Speaker 8: comment after that, come on, man, set up. Yeah, if

515
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Speaker 8: you have watched this kid maturing, bro, and if you

516
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Speaker 8: saw his interview at the beginning of training camp, yes

517
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Speaker 8: you knew this was a different kid.

518
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Speaker 6: Yeah, he's on the level with the guy. Now that's

519
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Speaker 6: that's in Cincinnati.

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Speaker 2: Mark, He's on that level then.

521
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Speaker 6: Yeah, so that's what I feel about it.

522
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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's real quick though, because and all right, because

523
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Speaker 5: a lot of I mean, yeah, there's been some turnover

524
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Speaker 5: as far as his team, but but the core parts

525
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 5: are still there, right from the last few years.

526
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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy's won a Super Bowl?

527
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:18,160
Speaker 5: Okay, why and Shot he's a holdover from this team,

528
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:19,800
Speaker 5: all right, I mean, let's be let's be real.

529
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Speaker 2: So what is it about? Why did he have to

530
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Speaker 2: change so much of this culture?

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Speaker 5: And why has that been such I mean, what was

532
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Speaker 5: his culture like the last few years to where Shot

533
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Speaker 5: he had to go in and do such a one

534
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Speaker 5: eighty and what it feels like? And look, I asked

535
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Speaker 5: Donovan Smith after the game on Sunday, and and kudos

536
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Speaker 5: to him, and look, I get it, you know, I mean,

537
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Speaker 5: I gotta ask it, and you know, we'll see what

538
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Speaker 5: he says. But I asked him, I said, is this

539
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,840
Speaker 5: a game that you guys win last year? And he

540
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Speaker 5: didn't say anything.

541
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Speaker 6: He didn't he didn't say yes or no, but he

542
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Speaker 6: said we didn't stop playing.

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Speaker 4: Yes, right?

544
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Speaker 2: Why why? Why?

545
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Speaker 5: Why does why is Shotty and I get who his

546
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 5: dad is. Yes, why have we had to see the

547
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 5: one Eddie culture change.

548
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 4: Because apparently it wasn't there. But it's a former players.

549
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Speaker 2: I mean, you got what y'all said.

550
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Speaker 4: Some guys what they was getting, you know, I was.

551
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,480
Speaker 4: I used to get angry when I just go to

552
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 4: practice and didn't see that the coaches in the players

553
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: face and getting on the players accountability, accountability, and and

554
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 4: and when I came in for the alumni day, I

555
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,680
Speaker 4: saw that. And guys, they jump off side. He was

556
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 4: he was yellow, he started over and I saw that

557
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 4: with my own eyes. But you know, it's the culture

558
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 4: that's gonna that's gonna win games. And I think the

559
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,720
Speaker 4: culture because I've I've left games. I'm just telling you

560
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 4: the truth. I've been up to that playoff game with

561
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 4: with Green Bay a couple of years ago, and I

562
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 4: was gone to halftime and this I stayed took like

563
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 4: a lot of guys, That's what I'm saying. I stayed

564
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Speaker 4: to the end of this one because I said, something

565
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 4: feels different about these guys gonna pull this one out. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: you know, for somebody did, and they and they did.

567
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Speaker 6: The thing that is so different.

568
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Speaker 8: Is this is not a one time offer that this

569
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Speaker 8: guy's offering because the word is called competition.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, And if they let this guy do his thing,

572
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 8: we'll be going in the right direction. I don't know

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Speaker 8: what the record will be this year, but I promise

574
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Speaker 8: you just do not hinder this guy trust. If the

575
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,480
Speaker 8: guys say, hey, this guy he's playing, he ain't playing playing?

576
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, have the have that level of trust and

577
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 3: that sort of accountability and things like that. All Right,

578
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Speaker 3: we reference the game a little bit there when we

579
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Speaker 3: come back here on the SLBBC Cowboys Cross talk let's

580
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 3: talk about this game of Cowboys play. They pick up

581
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Speaker 3: a victory in week two over the Giants in a

582
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: wild overtime game with Brandon Aubrey the hero of the day.

583
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Speaker 3: We're gonna talk about it when we come back here

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Speaker 3: with Kenny A. Shargan, Nate Newton, Fred Davis, I'm Bobby

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Speaker 3: belt Where. We'll be back here shortly on the SLBBC

586
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Speaker 3: Cowboys Cross Talkers.

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Speaker 3: in Dallas tonight. I'm joined by my one O five

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Speaker 3: three fan teammate Fred Davis. We've also got the three

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Speaker 3: time Super Bowl champ, six time Pro Bowler, future Hall

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Speaker 3: of Famer Nate Newton here with us tonight. And our

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Speaker 3: guest is Cowboys alum, two times Super Bowl champion Albany

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Speaker 3: State grad Kenny the Shark Gant. Now, Kenny, I know

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Speaker 3: appreciate you being with us tonight. I know you are

604
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 3: a uh you're you're still very involved, very active fan,

605
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Speaker 3: keep the tabs on things. We're at the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Just I guess the wild nature of that game in general,

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Speaker 3: some of your thoughts coming out of that game, and

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Speaker 3: can you remember a game when you were here in

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Speaker 3: Dallas that you equally thought was just that was the

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Speaker 3: most insane game we ever went through.

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Speaker 4: I remember one I think we Coach told us we

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Speaker 4: just playing around in practice. He told us, all right,

614
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Speaker 4: he said, is a little spiel. And Cleveland Geary came

615
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Speaker 4: and ate us up about two hundred and forty three

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Speaker 4: yards Russian and he did just what coach said he

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Speaker 4: was gonna do. And because we we just won. Focus

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Speaker 4: And I think you can get caught up in the

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Speaker 4: hoop loin of the giants, the worse in the East,

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Speaker 4: but this is off the game. These guys, they get

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Speaker 4: up for the Cowboys. And and when I and they

622
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 4: made Russell Wilson look like, what is this man? And

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Speaker 4: I just was sitting there and and and there you go.

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Speaker 9: I was.

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Speaker 4: I still I still remembering some of the conversations I

626
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 4: had with Shaddy when I was here for alumni today.

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00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: I said, man, these guys might come back. I'm gonna

628
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 4: just sit here and wait and see what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 4: And it actually happened. And so I think the guys

630
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Speaker 4: are buying into what he's he's talking. It's gonna take

631
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Speaker 4: a while, but I think they buying if you know,

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Speaker 4: he he just he had the rains to do what

633
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Speaker 4: he gotta do.

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Speaker 2: Nate, what did you think about this game?

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Speaker 6: On Sunday?

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Speaker 8: I preached and preached, don't hm the arrogance of a

637
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Speaker 8: cowboy fan. It floze right over to our team, and

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00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 8: I and I the only one, the only thing that

639
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 8: was wrong with the Giants one thing.

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Speaker 6: The offensive line did not play well the week before.

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00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 2: Yes, he was getting the ball out two seconds. He

642
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 2: did not have time to throw that ball in Washington.

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Speaker 8: So now thanks to James Hudson of Houston, number fifty

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Speaker 8: five bed of food. Oh yeah, because that thing of

645
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 8: ning seven that they was only one right, and we

646
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 8: was losing momentum. And so I'm telling people that's right here.

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Speaker 8: Quit listen to what your coaches are saying. Yes, it

648
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Speaker 8: was only one thing.

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Speaker 6: I would take the Giants team minus their offensive line.

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Speaker 8: And for an idiot to think, and I mean idiots

651
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Speaker 8: to think that the quarterback didn't have it no more.

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Speaker 6: I preached and preached to preach. This guy did not

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Speaker 6: get his feet set.

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Speaker 2: He told Russell Russ.

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Speaker 6: He didn't get his feet set against Washington.

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Speaker 8: But guess what the next week Washington quarterback didn't get

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Speaker 8: his feet so if we calling him a bomb, right, No, no,

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Speaker 8: we ain't do on that because.

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Speaker 6: In this place, So don't look at the game.

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Speaker 8: Study the game, yes, and don't try to because the offensive.

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Speaker 6: Line is bad. Don't think the whole team.

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Speaker 3: Bad, you know, Kenny, I'm curious as a guy who

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Speaker 3: played in the secondary, Yes, watching that game, they hit

664
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Speaker 3: deep ball after deep ball after deep ball, and in

665
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Speaker 3: a lot of instances you see and it's okay, is

666
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 3: that does this guy think they're in cover two and

667
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 3: they're actually in cover three? So he's he's passing some

668
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 3: them off to somebody who's not there?

669
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Speaker 4: Is there?

670
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Speaker 9: You know?

671
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 2: Okay? Is that safety playing the deep middle enough?

672
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Speaker 12: You know?

673
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 2: Are they getting back? Are they getting fooled by the

674
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: eye candy?

675
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:37,560
Speaker 4: Upfront?

676
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: When you saw that game and you see the issues

677
00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:44,479
Speaker 3: that they were having and stopping the deep ball, what's

678
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 3: the explanation for you when you watch that, It's just

679
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:47,280
Speaker 3: that's miscommunication?

680
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 2: Is that is that poor you know, recognition? How do

681
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 2: you look at that and say that the issue.

682
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 4: Was it's miscommunication? That's that's all on the players, because

683
00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 4: I believe they had think you they had they had

684
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 4: the defense in place. They just they just doing what

685
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 4: they want to do.

686
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 6: Thank you.

687
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Speaker 5: But okay, but let me ask you this, because we

688
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 5: we heard from scuttle Butt after the game that A

689
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Speaker 5: and again not taking anything away from that aspect, you

690
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:19,279
Speaker 5: got Trayvon Diggs getting you know what, second game back?

691
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Speaker 2: Right, do we think he's one hundred percent.

692
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Speaker 8: Joan, I'm just asking matter, bro, Okay, I'm just I'll

693
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 8: defer to you. Don't matter extra question, but it don't matter,

694
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Speaker 8: and I'm gonna.

695
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Speaker 2: Tell you why.

696
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 12: So.

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Speaker 5: And they're saying that a b eber Fluci system is

698
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 5: a lot more complicated than people think, and that c

699
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Speaker 5: we're bringing it. You got two guys starting who were

700
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Speaker 5: on somebody else's practice squad two weeks ago.

701
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Speaker 2: So when you throw all that together again, I'm not

702
00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 2: saying that.

703
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 5: You know, again, the other team has to go practice

704
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:50,399
Speaker 5: and play too, But is that not a factor as well.

705
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: I'm just playing the Devil's after.

706
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: I'm putting it on the players. The coaches, they take

707
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 4: the time all week, they put in the game plan.

708
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Speaker 4: See what Jimmy Johnson. Yeah, which I don't think Shoanty

709
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:08,160
Speaker 4: got that in him right now. Yeah, but somebody would

710
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 4: have been going, Yeah Monday, brother, somebody listen to me.

711
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Speaker 8: Yeah, somebody would have been a zone coverage, right, Pop.

712
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 6: One of coaches know your son deep is the deepest player.

713
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Speaker 2: It is no excuse, none, none.

714
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Speaker 6: Why are we as media types make an excuse because

715
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Speaker 6: if I run a four to five, I don't run a.

716
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Speaker 2: Four to three to two.

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Speaker 8: And I suppose it's it's twenty four seconds of ALF

718
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 8: they had twenty four yard Why was you not sitting

719
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Speaker 8: on the gold line?

720
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Speaker 6: Why? Brother, don't tell me.

721
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Speaker 4: Don't tell the fans that? Why?

722
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 2: Why? Okay? I mean and then that's I mean, hey,

723
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: look I get and you look. You guys know this.

724
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Speaker 5: When you're in the locker room after the game, you're

725
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 5: gonna hear different things with different guys.

726
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 13: And so with the best guy, the best receiver running

727
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:10,360
Speaker 13: straight down to nobody hit him not once but twice.

728
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 13: And then you had Waltdale get loose, but it didn't

729
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 13: get touched.

730
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Speaker 6: Some somebody, Jimmy, somebody would have lost the John.

731
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 4: Somebody would have I.

732
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Speaker 3: Guess that's that's That's what I'm curious about, because I

733
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,839
Speaker 3: I kind of look at it as cover two, cover three.

734
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,440
Speaker 3: It's generally those are generally concepts here, you're running in

735
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 3: high school generally okay, So so I mean you that's

736
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 3: something people are familiar with. So when when there is

737
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Speaker 3: an issue there of you're not deep enough or why

738
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 3: are you not? Why do you think we're in two

739
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: and we're in three at that point? Is that just

740
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 3: people are getting the play call wrong? Is there something

741
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:47,960
Speaker 3: wrong that like? Are there checks being made?

742
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 8: Or I can understand this man the man right right

743
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 8: and people trying to cross routes and you got bunches.

744
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 6: I can understand. Son, We're on the forty five, run

745
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 6: back there to the tenth.

746
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Speaker 2: Stand on this, why cowboy? That's all you gotta do.

747
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 8: And turn around and see what's happening you up on

748
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 8: the line. You runs a four four five six, This

749
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 8: dude running a four four?

750
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 6: Come on? Do the math man?

751
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 4: Come on now?

752
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:21,719
Speaker 2: So we over complicating it?

753
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 7: Then?

754
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: Are we not placing enough?

755
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 9: Not?

756
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 2: We? You?

757
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:25,640
Speaker 9: Not?

758
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 7: We?

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00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: I say we as a whole?

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Speaker 6: Hey, hey give himself to enough. Baby.

761
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 2: Look, I mean you don't think other people wanted to

762
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:38,840
Speaker 2: ask you questions?

763
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:39,640
Speaker 6: They do?

764
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Speaker 2: Well, that's why I'm here ask you. We've neverbody get

765
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Speaker 2: to access to day.

766
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Speaker 6: I can't I can't think of the other defensive back

767
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Speaker 6: that he does train. He does counts for us.

768
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 8: Look, I can't think of his name. Now he does

769
00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 8: counts for us now for the Cowboys. And I and

770
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 8: I was so trying to explain this to a guy.

771
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 8: He was doing the same thing. But but, but but

772
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 8: and I walked over to the guys, say, explain to him.

773
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,600
Speaker 6: You are d V. Now I'm here waiting on every

774
00:43:06,640 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 6: word for Kenny.

775
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 2: I'm waiting.

776
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 8: And Jimmy, would I remember one time and I give

777
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 8: me this, Jimmy, they was running what was our.

778
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 6: Patent defense, our coverage in the back for the Cowboy.

779
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 4: Two couple two of the couple of three we had

780
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Speaker 4: two that was it.

781
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: Stuff that they were having trouble and some team lit

782
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Speaker 2: us up.

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Speaker 6: And and I had never seen wood. He say, man,

784
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Speaker 6: I don't know.

785
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Speaker 7: Man.

786
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 8: We went to the meetings and that the next day,

787
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,160
Speaker 8: and Jimmy said, before this means start, let me get

788
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 8: this right here straight. We are the coaches, We prepare y'all,

789
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 8: We call these plays and and the next don't be

790
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 8: back were you supposed to be.

791
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 6: You will not be playing.

792
00:43:52,080 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 14: Yes, come on, bro, just telling you things, I hear, Baby, Yeah, yeah,

793
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 14: he gonna tonight.

794
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 2: That's it.

795
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Speaker 6: That is the thing.

796
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Speaker 3: And I think speaking to what Fred saying too, I

797
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 3: think there's no doubt you guys have seen it for that.

798
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: It's been part of the problem in recent years. There's

799
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Speaker 3: probably guys in there who don't want to take responsible

800
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 3: for I messed up communication. I didn't stand it, and

801
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,719
Speaker 3: so it's easier to just say, man, I don't know.

802
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 3: Some of this is a little more complicated. So is

803
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Speaker 3: that part of what Schottenheimer you think is trying to

804
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: clean up?

805
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Speaker 6: But no, no, no, own it.

806
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: On what part you.

807
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Speaker 3: I was stunned postgame when they said the first touchdown.

808
00:44:36,680 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 3: I was stunned that Schottenheimer said, well, I gotta look

809
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 3: go back looking, I can tell you I'm the first touchdown. Uh,

810
00:44:42,040 --> 00:44:44,759
Speaker 3: linebacker did not carry and we were in covered two

811
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Speaker 3: linebacker did not carry the scene like he was supposed to.

812
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:47,360
Speaker 9: That.

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Speaker 2: I mean that's direct calling out. That's that's who missed that.

814
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: Well, if they was in cover with two, it'll have

815
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:57,720
Speaker 4: been three guys back down you see machine, but two okay?

816
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 2: And last last day because I feel like I got

817
00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: to I didn't shoot up. I made over here, but

818
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 2: I'm and where I'm coming from. Is this all right?

819
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:06,600
Speaker 4: Yes?

820
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Speaker 5: We all agree that that uh. In the first preseason

821
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,960
Speaker 5: game against the Rams, secondary got chewed up pretty good

822
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 5: that first game. Okay, So I asked one of the

823
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 5: players and I'm not gonna I'll say during the break,

824
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 5: but I'm here.

825
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: Next game, it played a little bit better.

826
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Speaker 5: And I asked him, I said, do you guys think

827
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 5: you look better this week than last week? His exact

828
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 5: words to me were, well, I didn't think we looked

829
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 5: that bad last week.

830
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 2: Wow.

831
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 5: Okay, So this is what I'm trying when I tell

832
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 5: you what I'm hearing, gentlemen, I'm not just making this

833
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:36,720
Speaker 5: up out of the sky, but I hope.

834
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Speaker 6: They heard me. Get rid of these guys.

835
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: So that's what and that's what I'm trying to get

836
00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 2: to you.

837
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Speaker 5: That's why I'm asking you all this because this is

838
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 5: what And and to your point where maybe guys do

839
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 5: need to be cut or again, coaches, you know what

840
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 5: I'm saying, Let's let them, let let's let's.

841
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 3: Keep talking about this. Let's let's take our final break tonight.

842
00:45:53,880 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 3: When we come back, We're gonna get a little bit

843
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: more into that conversation. And also look ahead to the

844
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Speaker 3: Chicago Bears. Obviously some big weapons that the Bears have.

845
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Speaker 3: Roma Dune's a d J. Moore caleable and something secondary.

846
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Speaker 6: Better be ready.

847
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Speaker 3: We got Kenny the Shark getting with us tonight. Nate Newton,

848
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Speaker 3: Fred Davis. I'm Bobby Belt. We'll talk about that next

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Speaker 2: I'm Bobby Belt. From one O five through the fan.

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Speaker 3: I've got Fred Davis with who my teammate at one

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Speaker 3: five to the fan Here tonight we've got the three

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Speaker 3: time Super Bowl champs, six time Pro bowler Nate Newton,

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Speaker 3: and our guest tonight, our esteemed guest is none other

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Speaker 3: than Kenny the Shark ganthe two time super Bowl champion.

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Speaker 3: All right, so, fred, I'll let you guys put put

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Speaker 3: a ball on. No, we are intended, was ready to

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Speaker 3: go out there.

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Speaker 8: My thing is this right here, don't try to complicate

875
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 8: the obvious, that that that that that right. What we

876
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 8: need is a past rush, and what we need is

877
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:24,840
Speaker 8: for players to I'm saying the same thing with the

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00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:29,040
Speaker 8: Chicago Baths, Chicago Bass. Dennis Allen right now is trying

879
00:50:29,080 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 8: to answer the same questions today that we're trying to answer.

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00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 8: And hopefully his people are saying, hey, fellas, it's so

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00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 8: many players to buy in, which they have given that

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00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,960
Speaker 8: right to their head coach because Ben Johnson is the

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Speaker 8: next whatever whatever, So he gets to say, hey man,

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00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 8: they need to concentrate more. Mister Jones came home and

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Speaker 8: I know a lot of time people like he just talking.

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Speaker 8: He told him everybody straight up, these do need to

887
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Speaker 8: accept the responsibility.

888
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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, and I think that I think that's the

889
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Speaker 2: big part of it.

890
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Speaker 4: Go ahead, friend, No, I was.

891
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Speaker 5: Gonna say, you brought up Ben Johnson. We all know

892
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Speaker 5: during the coaching cycle. Bobby knows this from doing the

893
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Speaker 5: Morning Show. Everybody frowned when Brian Sottenneimer was named the

894
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 5: head coach.

895
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Speaker 4: Jo.

896
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 5: Now, I'll say this, I grew up a Chiefs fan

897
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 5: back and before it was cool to be a Chiefs fan.

898
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 2: All right, So I grew up watching.

899
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:25,440
Speaker 5: Marty Schottenneimer Nigerian Nightmare, the Nigerian Nightmare. All right, your boy,

900
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,600
Speaker 5: Steve de Burg, all right, you know what I'm saying,

901
00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:30,160
Speaker 5: Steve Bono for crying out.

902
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: Loud right how much?

903
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,840
Speaker 5: And we know Marty was in hell la. Damian Tommins

904
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 5: has talked about this. The one thing he appreciated about

905
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:41,120
Speaker 5: Marty Shotenheimers. He could coach every position on defeat, absolutely right.

906
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:46,440
Speaker 5: And so I feel like with Brian Schottenheimer he emulates

907
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 5: that in kind of a newer way because obviously he

908
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 5: can't get away with the stuff that Marty used to.

909
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:50,359
Speaker 2: Do back in the day.

910
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 5: But why does it take a guy twenty five years

911
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:57,080
Speaker 5: sometimes to finally get that shot and we're starting to

912
00:51:57,120 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 5: see maybe, hey, maybe it's okay. Ain't not to be

913
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Speaker 5: the hottest thing since Slice Brad When when you're.

914
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 8: Looking for a football coach, O, my brother, I'm gonna

915
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Speaker 8: give it to USD to wash the twenty five years.

916
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:15,480
Speaker 4: Well, you know, it's still a trust factor. Yeah, I

917
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:23,920
Speaker 4: believe somebody saying what somebody else saying. Right, you just

918
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 4: got to go and interview the guy and she if

919
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 4: he's the right guy. I think from what I've seen,

920
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:35,880
Speaker 4: he's he deserves a shot because he he's done something

921
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Speaker 4: I hadn't seen coaches do since we back in the day.

922
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Speaker 4: Back in the day. He's bringing all the older guys back.

923
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 4: And we talked in the meetings to the to the guys,

924
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,239
Speaker 4: and and that was how did.

925
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Speaker 2: They receive that?

926
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Speaker 3: What?

927
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Speaker 6: You know?

928
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: Some of the.

929
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Speaker 6: Prima donnas, you know what I'm saying, like some of

930
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 6: my home.

931
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Speaker 4: Yeah, some hungry, some of them like little birds. They

932
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 4: they want to hear. But you can see, you can look.

933
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,320
Speaker 4: It's it's hard to look around the room because I

934
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:11,080
Speaker 4: don't he gotta be humble.

935
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Speaker 2: Uh.

936
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:16,800
Speaker 4: I've read a book by my writer. He said the

937
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 4: humility the way up is down. Okay, but the way

938
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 4: down is up right. So if you're gonna stay up,

939
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 4: you gotta keep stay low right and and be humility.

940
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Speaker 6: Is some of you ready to receive?

941
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Speaker 2: Man?

942
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:35,320
Speaker 6: Yeah? Got if willing to accept?

943
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 4: Yeah?

944
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Speaker 8: Uh Coach Shottenheimer and I said it from day one.

945
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Speaker 8: I picked that in for two weeks. I called him

946
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 8: coach Osmos for two weeks. But his game is like

947
00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 8: the brother his mouth game is right.

948
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Speaker 2: So do you think you both of you?

949
00:53:53,960 --> 00:53:56,439
Speaker 3: I'm curious, well, both of you you think enjoyed playing

950
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,960
Speaker 3: for Shotennimer coach because he gonna.

951
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,520
Speaker 8: Tell me what I'm doing wrong. He gonna tell me

952
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Speaker 8: what I'm doing right. Yes, the money has messed it up.

953
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,400
Speaker 8: Not that these guys, these guys deserve everything right, but

954
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Speaker 8: that me and deal say, I ain't got no problem

955
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Speaker 8: with you're making it, But once you make it, I'm

956
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 8: gonna judge you on that center.

957
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Speaker 2: Yeah, the responsibility, right, guess be prepared for that for sure.

958
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,320
Speaker 3: All Right, we got we got about two and a

959
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,640
Speaker 3: half minutes left here on the show. Curious for both

960
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: of you, uh keys heading into this game against the Bears.

961
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 3: What needs to be done better from Sunday to make

962
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Speaker 3: sure that this seems two and one coming out of

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Speaker 3: Soldier Field.

964
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Speaker 4: Stick to the game playing. Don't do what you want

965
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Speaker 4: to do. Stick to the game playing. The coaches watch

966
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 4: more film than you watch. They know what position to

967
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 4: put you in. Stay in that position. If they make

968
00:54:46,600 --> 00:54:48,879
Speaker 4: a they make a play while you hanging on their back.

969
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 4: To God be the glory. Yes, sir, but yes sir,

970
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 4: but don't don't just let nobody just falling the end

971
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Speaker 4: zone with ten, ten to twenty seconds left for real.

972
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 2: So Nate said the same thing for you.

973
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Speaker 6: Discipline, Yes, discipline, bro.

974
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Speaker 3: Very disciplined in week one with penalties and everything else.

975
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Speaker 3: They had a bigger problem.

976
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Speaker 4: In week two. Discipline.

977
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Speaker 6: That's that's it.

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Speaker 2: Seven to eleven.

979
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 6: What's you think?

980
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Speaker 5: Hey, hey, hey, hey, staying right. Y'all know the deal

981
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Speaker 5: real quick. What does a win like that on a Sunday,

982
00:55:25,239 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: the way they came back, what can that do for

983
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 5: the rest of the year.

984
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Speaker 4: Well, it could gavanize And I think they seen everybody

985
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,800
Speaker 4: came together and had to and they seen a quarterback

986
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Speaker 4: go out on the line and run to get it.

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Speaker 4: Then they got a they got an awesome weapon in Aubury.

988
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Speaker 4: So they just know they got to keep the game.

989
00:55:45,320 --> 00:55:49,040
Speaker 4: Game pep close and we got a chance. And that's

990
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Speaker 4: what our model. When we played keeping seventeen the list, yes,

991
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Speaker 4: we win the ball and the ball.

992
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 2: Well, then we go to seven eleven. There was a

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Speaker 2: Cowboy five in the morning. All right, we're we're entering

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Speaker 2: our final minute here. Thank you to.

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Speaker 3: The breda nude as we wrap up here just in

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Speaker 3: the final last few seconds, a couple of words.

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Speaker 8: D D.

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Speaker 3: Lewis, the former Cowboys linebackers, announced that he had passed

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Speaker 3: away this week. D D was, of course famous for

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Speaker 3: the line that the reason why there's the hole in

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00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,919
Speaker 3: Texas Stadium so God can look down on his favorite team.

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Speaker 3: That was DDE who came up that fourteen years on

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Speaker 3: the Doomsday defense.

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Speaker 2: Uh A.

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Speaker 3: A former Bear, Bryan called him the best linebacker in

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Speaker 3: the country when he played at Mississippi State. Uh So

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Speaker 3: thoughts with Dede's family. Uh A Cowboys legend. Cowboys Bears

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Speaker 3: will play at noon this Sunday, and we'll move back

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Speaker 3: again next week with another.

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Speaker 2: Edition of the s WBC Cowboys Cross Dog.

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Speaker 10: Right, it's been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 10: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club