1 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Hey guys, it's Andre Gunning. A few weeks ago, we 2 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: put a call out for your listener essays. We wanted 3 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: to hear from you about resilience after a devastating betrayal, 4 00:00:57,480 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: and we received so many incredible essays missions. For this episode, 5 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: we're going to feature the second of two essays that 6 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: really moved me. It's written and read by a listener 7 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 1: named Molly. 8 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: The willow tree bends, but it does not break. 9 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 3: It weathers storms by swaying with the wind, its roots 10 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: gripping the earth with quiet determination. I didn't know I 11 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,919 Speaker 3: had that kind of strength until the night I left, 12 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,480 Speaker 3: with my seven and a half month old baby in 13 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 3: my arms and a carry on suitcase packed for a 14 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 3: nine day trip. I thought I'd be gone for a 15 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 3: short while, but life had other plans. Then again, when 16 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 3: I got married, I didn't think i'd have to flee 17 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 3: from him in fear for my safety and that of 18 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:50,040 Speaker 3: my child. Over the next year, I would cross eight states, 19 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 3: learning to bend, adapt, and survive with nothing but determination. 20 00:01:55,920 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: Hope, and my baby. The breaking point the night I 21 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 2: knew I had to leave. 22 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 3: The conflict started almost immediately after saying I do before marriage, 23 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 3: I had noticed differences in how we handled stress, how 24 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 3: quickly he became worked up, But I convinced myself it 25 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 3: was manageable. Then, within months of being married, he became 26 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 3: someone else. The man who had once written me cards 27 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 3: each month and planned thoughtful dates now picked fights over 28 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: the smallest things. 29 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 2: How I ate my apples, whether I let. 30 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 3: My coffee get cold, Things that shouldn't have mattered to anyone, 31 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 3: but somehow mattered enough to him to start an argument. 32 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: I was exhausted, constantly trying to recapture the person I 33 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 3: had married when I got pregnant. The shift was undeniable. 34 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: The first time he left bruises on my arms, it 35 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 3: was because I wouldn't sit on the couch when ordered to, 36 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 3: in a voice that sent chills down my spine. It 37 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 3: wasn't a request, it was a demand, and when I refused, 38 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,400 Speaker 3: his grip tightened. That was the first time, but it 39 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:05,160 Speaker 3: wasn't the last. The final night was the worst of 40 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:09,280 Speaker 3: my life. I wasn't allowed to sleep. He berated me 41 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: for hours, his voice drilling into my skull, his words 42 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 3: cutting deeper than the bruises. He left behind, Bruises on 43 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: my arms, my legs, knuckle prints on my rib cage, 44 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 3: a giant bruise across my jaw. I didn't realize you 45 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 3: could even bruise from repeated slaps across the face. I 46 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 3: don't remember how many times he hit me, but I 47 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 3: do remember the moment that changed everything. He had been 48 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 3: holding our baby when he put her down just so he. 49 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Could slap me. I watched helpless as she fell off 50 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 2: the bed. That was it. 51 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: That was the moment I knew there was no more trying, 52 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 3: no more hoping he would change. 53 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: The only thing that mattered now was getting. 54 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 3: Out Storm one California, carrying the weight. 55 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: California was supposed to a temporary stop. I worked forty 56 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 2: hour weeks. 57 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 3: With my baby strapped to my chest, sharing a room 58 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: with my sister, her two dogs, and the whirlwind of 59 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 3: uncertainty that had become my life. The stress of filing 60 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 3: for divorce and obtaining a restraining order was relentless, but 61 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: somehow we still found moments of joy. We laughed, We played, 62 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 3: We made memories that softened the sharp edges of my reality. 63 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 3: Adaptation wasn't a choice, it was survival. The wounds were fresh, 64 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 3: but laughter made me remember who I was before. Roots 65 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 3: that travel that tree tattoo. In the midst of all 66 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 3: the moving from state to state, carrying only what I 67 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 3: could manage, I felt completely unanchored. Safety meant staying in motion, 68 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: never lingering too long in one place, never feeling truly settled. 69 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: The instability weighed on me, but I clung to one truth. 70 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: Even if I wasn't planted, my roots still went with me. 71 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:00,919 Speaker 3: That's why during my time in Callifornia, I got the 72 00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: tree tattoo, a tree with strong roots but at the 73 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 3: same time empty barren leaves. It was a reminder that 74 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: no matter where I had to go, I wasn't lost. 75 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 3: I carried my strength, my history, and my identity within me, 76 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:20,720 Speaker 3: even when everything around me felt uncertain. Another step toward wholeness. 77 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 3: Storm two Texas the in between. In Texas, I lived 78 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 3: in three different places, the last being with a family 79 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 3: I'd never met before we moved in. I was able 80 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 3: to continue working remotely and feel a bit of freedom, 81 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 3: to fill our days with park visits, time with my 82 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 3: friends who lived in the area, and began to think 83 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:45,359 Speaker 3: and maybe even dream a little about the future. The 84 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 3: divorce was final in June. As I hung up the 85 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 3: film with my lawyer, I wiped my tears and high 86 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 3: fived the baby in the high chair and said, we've 87 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 3: got this, girly. We're going to be okay, better than okay. 88 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 3: I had begun counselor and went twice a week in Texas, 89 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: learning what had happened to me, figuring out red flags 90 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 3: I missed, discovering myself again. Storm three, Mississippi an unplanned gift. 91 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: Texas had been my plan as I just wanted to 92 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 3: stay put for a little while, but when my housing 93 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 3: fell through and I couldn't yet afford rent, Mississippi became 94 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 3: my unexpected refuge. What felt like another setback turned out 95 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,239 Speaker 3: to be exactly where I needed to be. My father 96 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: had just been diagnosed with prostate cancer, and being there 97 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 3: meant I could help care for him, cook for my grandmother, 98 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: and have a stable place with my baby. But the 99 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: greatest gift was the time spent with my grandma. More importantly, 100 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: she and my baby got to know each other, not 101 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 3: just in passing visits, but in the quiet, everyday moments 102 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 3: that make. 103 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 2: Up a life. 104 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: We went to library story time together, made meals side 105 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 3: by side, and at night, after the baby was asleep, 106 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 3: we shared bowls of coffee, ice cream, talking in the 107 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 3: kind of unhurried way that only happens when you live 108 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 3: under the same roof. For two months, I had the 109 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 3: privilege of knowing her not just as my grandmother, but 110 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 3: as a woman, and she got to love my daughter 111 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,239 Speaker 3: in that same way. Mississippi was never part of my plan, 112 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 3: but it became a balm for my heart, an unexpected 113 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 3: pause where I could catch my breath and be surrounded 114 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: by love. Storm four Indiana, My hometown was a wonderful 115 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 3: place to grow up, but I never imagined living there 116 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 3: as an adult. Life is funny that way. For eight months, 117 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: we shared a two bedroom apartment with my mom, planning 118 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,120 Speaker 3: our next steps, maybe even a place to stay for good. 119 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 3: The three of us became a team, and my mother 120 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 3: I finally found the space to thrive in motherhood. He 121 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 3: had made that impossible, but she had always modeled love 122 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: and support. Now, for the first time, I had the 123 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: chance to parent with someone not alone. 124 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:59,440 Speaker 2: I found a support group to attend each Wednesday. 125 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 3: There, I found perspective and growth, and started to realize 126 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 3: how much stronger I was than when I first went 127 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 3: to counseling, fresh from the abuse, numb and damaged by 128 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: all that I'd experienced, I was starting to trust myself again. 129 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 3: I started to believe people were still good and loving 130 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 3: and kind in the world. I remembered I was loved 131 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 3: just as I was, and that I was enough just 132 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 3: for being me. In Indiana, I was able to even 133 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 3: participate in a fundraising event for the local women's shelter, 134 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 3: telling my story before a five k voicing for the 135 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 3: first time that going through abuse doesn't make you weak, 136 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: and that healing from abuse is true strength. The end 137 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 3: of the bend North Carolina. North Carolina became more than 138 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 3: just another stop. It became home. After years of bending 139 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: with the storms, I had finally found solid ground. 140 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: To mark the journey. 141 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 3: I went to a new tattoo artist to complete what 142 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: had begun in California. The tree on my skin, once bare, 143 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:06,439 Speaker 3: now had green leaves. 144 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:07,920 Speaker 2: As the ink. 145 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 3: Settled, I felt the weight of the past few years, 146 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 3: the fear, the exhaustion, the moments I thought I wouldn't 147 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,359 Speaker 3: make it, But I had. I had not only survived, 148 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 3: I had grown, and life kept growing with me. In time, 149 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 3: I fell in love again, love that was steady and safe. 150 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:27,000 Speaker 2: I built a new. 151 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 3: Life, a family, and welcomed another baby, proof that healing 152 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: isn't just moving on from pain, but making room for joy. 153 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: The fear never fully disappeared. He tried to find us 154 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:42,560 Speaker 3: while I was pregnant with my second daughter, but he 155 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 3: did not win. We are safe, we are free, we 156 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 3: are strong. Now I give back, offering the kind of 157 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: support I once needed. I share my story so others 158 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 3: know they aren't alone. Healing is not a straight path. 159 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: We never returned to who we were before the storm. 160 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 3: But like the willow, we can root ourselves in resilience, 161 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,320 Speaker 3: bend without breaking, and when the time is right, grow 162 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 3: fresh leaves once. 163 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 2: More when we come back. 164 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: Our producer talks with Molly about her writing process, and 165 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: stay tuned until the end of the episode when we'll 166 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 1: be sharing our next listener sa theme. I'm going to 167 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: hand it over to our producer Mo, who talked with 168 00:10:41,160 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: Molly for this episode. 169 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 4: Can you just tell me a little bit about what 170 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 4: the process of writing this was like for you? 171 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have had a lot of distance 172 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 3: and time for healing, and so I think looking back 173 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 3: and seeing the journey was important to me and trying 174 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 3: to weave that through just because anyone that leaves abuse. 175 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 3: It can be chaotic, especially at first. There's just a 176 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 3: lot of upheaval, and people think leaving is it, that's it, 177 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 3: and it's just the start. It's the first step, and 178 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 3: there's so much that comes after that. So I just 179 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 3: really wanted to emphasize and hopefully have people relate to 180 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 3: just that journey that is leaving and how much that 181 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 3: becomes its own story. 182 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 2: Really, I want to talk. 183 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: About the headings you'd used and why you chose to 184 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 4: title some of these headings. You know, Storm one, Storm two, 185 00:11:36,400 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 4: What does storm mean? And why did you title the 186 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 4: headings that way? 187 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 2: There was just so much upheaval. 188 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 3: I mean when I left, legitimately, I had a trip planned. 189 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 3: It's a yearly trip I do with my college girlfriends, 190 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 3: and he had been threatening me and saying I wasn't 191 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 3: going to go. He had hid my suitcase, he'd taken 192 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 3: my phone. I didn't know if I was going. So 193 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 3: that night before, when I literally slept forty five minutes 194 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:02,199 Speaker 3: and I had a three hour drive to the airport 195 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 3: and he was going to drive us, I didn't know 196 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 3: if it was happening. So he woke me up, I 197 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 3: took a shower, we drove to the airport. I was 198 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: in shock, honestly, that we were leaving. I had a 199 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: nine day carry on, like I had packed for me 200 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 3: and a baby for nine days going to Florida. 201 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 2: This was not me leaving. 202 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: This was not me packing up my life, taking any 203 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 3: documents I needed, you know, anything important. It was just 204 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 3: some clothes for nine days. And we never went back, 205 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 3: not one time. So I guess the storm was really 206 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: just each step was unplanned. I went to la I 207 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: was supposed to be there for a birthday, for my 208 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 3: daughter's first birthday. Stayed for two months, and it just 209 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 3: kept being things like that where I had a plan 210 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 3: and then everything else happened around me. You know, I 211 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,560 Speaker 3: had a place to live in Texas that fell through. 212 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 3: My dad got diagnosed with cancer. That seemed the next 213 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 3: logical step. Go be with family and then go back 214 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,440 Speaker 3: to you're a hometown, figure out next steps. And so 215 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,760 Speaker 3: each time it was a storm, but storms cannot kind 216 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 3: of be peaceful. And ironically now I listen to a 217 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 3: thunderstorm to sleep, so it's actually calming to the system. 218 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: And when I look back, they all had such purpose. 219 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 2: How did it. 220 00:13:18,480 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 4: Feel for you putting this down on paper and then 221 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 4: reading it out loud. 222 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 3: I mean the process was fairly seamless, I would say, 223 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 3: just because I've thought of it so often since, and 224 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 3: I've you know, I've journaled, and I've done things like that. 225 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 3: It's not been obviously in this sort of structure as 226 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: an essay or anything like that. But I think it's 227 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 3: always a little bit therapeutic to take ownership of it. 228 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: And I kind of describe it to other people as 229 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 3: it almost happened to someone else, because I'm now someone else. 230 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:53,479 Speaker 3: So when I look back, it's almost it's not disassociation, 231 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 3: but it's non emotional as far as like I'm not 232 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 3: I'm not emotionally affected by telling it. I'm empowered by 233 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 3: telling it because I remember what I've gone through and 234 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 3: who I am now, and I don't remember that girl 235 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 3: that left because she was just such a different version 236 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: of me. But I was not fully destroyed. And that's 237 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 3: something I hope people remember, is even if it's you know, 238 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: day one, you just left yesterday, you will become something else, 239 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: I promise. 240 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 1: Thank you so much for listening, and thank you to 241 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: the incredible listeners who wrote in to share their essays 242 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: on the theme of resilience. We were so moved by 243 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 1: your submissions that were bringing you more of these listener essays, 244 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: and our next theme will be the moment everything changed. 245 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: Set the scene, take us back to that memory. 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