WEBVTT - "I WAS KIDNAPPED"

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, folks, it's Lyle here. I just wanted to ask

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<v Speaker 1>to think about stuff. All right, let's get into the episode. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>Hello James.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, sir, how are you doing while.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm here right now. I'm alive. I have two legs.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty uh, It's all I ever need.

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<v Speaker 2>The getos have two legs or four legs? There's a

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<v Speaker 2>two hine on it.

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<v Speaker 1>So, James, what is it that you wanted to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about today?

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<v Speaker 2>So when I was two, on my second birthday, I

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<v Speaker 2>was kidnapped in Baghdad, Iraq, And basically I was with

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<v Speaker 2>my uncle, and my uncle and I had a very

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<v Speaker 2>We had a very close relationship. He was like my

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<v Speaker 2>father kind of guy. He raised me. I mean for

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<v Speaker 2>two years, I guess, but he was kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>father figure that I hadn't growing up there. And on

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<v Speaker 2>my second day, we would have these corner stories, like

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<v Speaker 2>these bodega types of places in Iraq and in the

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<v Speaker 2>neighborhood that I lived in. He took me out to

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<v Speaker 2>grab go get a present. He went go get some

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<v Speaker 2>candy or some toys or something for my birthday. On

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<v Speaker 2>the way there, a humby drove in front of us,

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<v Speaker 2>stopped right in front of us, and about four men

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<v Speaker 2>hopped out and they shot my uncle in the head

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<v Speaker 2>point blank as he was holding me and killed them

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<v Speaker 2>and I dropped you a floor and they moved kidnapping

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<v Speaker 2>me and then they had me for about nine days.

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<v Speaker 2>And so about the third day they got a hold

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<v Speaker 2>my parents and they were like, hey, you got your kid.

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<v Speaker 2>You want your kid back, you need fifty thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>and that converted like from whatever currency like be not

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<v Speaker 2>it's converted to dollars. So they wanted like thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and he they basically said that they gave their ransom

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<v Speaker 2>and then they hung up on the phone. They didn't

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<v Speaker 2>let my parents beat They said nothing. So my parents

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<v Speaker 2>started panicking because we weren't wealthy. We barely had enough

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<v Speaker 2>money to survive. And they kind of started panicking because

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<v Speaker 2>weasive fifty thousand dollars in my life. And so with

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<v Speaker 2>the help of extended family and family and the neighborhood

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<v Speaker 2>in the community that I that they grew up in,

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<v Speaker 2>they were able to gather around twenty five thousand dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and about on the eighth day. I believe it's what

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<v Speaker 2>my mom told me. They got a hold of them,

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<v Speaker 2>they got the kidnappers called again and they were like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the details for the exchange. We're gonna you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>meet up with this location. You can only bring one person,

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<v Speaker 2>one person in the money, if anybody else, if a

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<v Speaker 2>single other soul shows up with them, then the deal's off.

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<v Speaker 2>And and whoever shows up is going to die and

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<v Speaker 2>your kid's going to die, and that was kind of it.

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<v Speaker 2>That was literally all they told them. And then so

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<v Speaker 2>the person that ended up going with my father and

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<v Speaker 2>my father went to this it was like, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>secluded area that doesn't doesn't He doesn't like talking about

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<v Speaker 2>it much, so I can't really talk to him about it.

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<v Speaker 2>But we went to this area and he ended up

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<v Speaker 2>meeting this like, there's a seventeen year old kid there.

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<v Speaker 2>So the story with a seventeen year old kid is that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the story with the seventeen year old kid is that

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<v Speaker 2>this seventeen year old kid was also kidnapped, but his

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<v Speaker 2>thing is is that he was kidnapped solely for this exchange.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically what they had told this kid and thisally what

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<v Speaker 2>the kid had told my father.

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<v Speaker 1>So he was kidnapped to work for the kidnappers on

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<v Speaker 1>this other kidnapping exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's like it's a fuck fest.

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<v Speaker 1>Of just kidnapping, total fuck fast.

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<v Speaker 2>And so basically what the kidnappers had told this kid

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<v Speaker 2>was like, they're going to be up with this with

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<v Speaker 2>with this guy for the money, which is my father,

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<v Speaker 2>and if you don't get us the money, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to kill you, we're going to kill the kid, and

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<v Speaker 2>we're going to kill your entire family. That was it.

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<v Speaker 2>And back then there's not a lot of this was

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<v Speaker 2>This was two thousand and five, so it's it's a

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<v Speaker 2>little it's a little bit after the war, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>still the country is not in the great state. There's

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<v Speaker 2>not a lot of like anybody can do whatever the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck they want, basically, right, And it was like, no.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you know, one thing I was wondering is like,

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't I mean, it doesn't sound like your parents

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<v Speaker 1>had much resources in terms of, like, you know, when

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<v Speaker 1>you were kidnapped for ransom, like they it didn't sound

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<v Speaker 1>like they could call the police or call any other

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<v Speaker 1>third party to help them out. It sounded like they're

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<v Speaker 1>only options were to just get the money.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And so basically the kid ended up meeting up

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<v Speaker 2>with my dad and my dad before, prior to getting

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<v Speaker 2>all this knowledge that I just told you, my dad

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<v Speaker 2>had thought that the kid was part of the kidnappers.

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<v Speaker 2>So as soon as he showed up, the kid and

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<v Speaker 2>him like started fighting like basically like scrabbing in the

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<v Speaker 2>middle of the fucking like wherever they were. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the kid was like hold on, hold on, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he proceeded to tell him everything that I just told you,

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<v Speaker 2>and then so they got up. They kept the talks

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<v Speaker 2>for a little bit. Then my dad gave them money.

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<v Speaker 2>And then before you get the money, he's like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>where's my kid? Because remember I told you this was

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<v Speaker 2>an exchange.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So.

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<v Speaker 2>As he was like before, he's like, wait, where's my kid?

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<v Speaker 2>This wasn't exchange. He's like, they told me to tell

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<v Speaker 2>you that your kid's going to be released once I

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<v Speaker 2>get this money. If I don't get them one and

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<v Speaker 2>your kid's not released, and basically I'm going to die

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<v Speaker 2>and my family's going to die and your kid's gonna die.

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<v Speaker 2>And so my dad was like, I guess I can't

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<v Speaker 2>There's not much I can do. I have to trust this,

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<v Speaker 2>Like there's there's really you can't play a game here

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<v Speaker 2>with with with the lives that are risks. So my

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<v Speaker 2>dad the kids of money. The kid ended up going

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<v Speaker 2>back and I guess giving them the money. And basically

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<v Speaker 2>what was what happened is that in Iraq there's these banks.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just the rivers and then there's banks of the rivers,

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<v Speaker 2>and the banks of the rivers is where people would

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<v Speaker 2>throw their like trash bags at or their trash and

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<v Speaker 2>then at a certain day, people, some people like workers

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<v Speaker 2>would come in new clean. This kid's body, the kid

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<v Speaker 2>that was kidnapped with the exchange, this kid's body was

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<v Speaker 2>found on the river of the bank.

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<v Speaker 1>With holy ship. The kid that your dad met up with, yes, then.

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<v Speaker 2>Was found in my kid my uncle was found in

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<v Speaker 2>a hospital dead mm hmmm, with a bullet in his head,

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<v Speaker 2>just dead on then on arrival. And I was found

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<v Speaker 2>but asked naked at the age of two, outside of

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<v Speaker 2>an abandoned carnival what three in the morning on the ninth.

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<v Speaker 1>Day and who who? So so okay, so hold on,

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<v Speaker 1>so so the seventeen year old kid that met up

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<v Speaker 1>with your dad was killed, but you so did the

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<v Speaker 1>did was it? The kidnappers made good on their promise

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<v Speaker 1>and they did release you or how were you found exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, So thankfully they had an ounce of empathy and

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<v Speaker 2>they had they released me and because because again I

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<v Speaker 2>was two, right, So there's I mean, there's not really

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<v Speaker 2>unless you're gonna fucking raise me to be this fucking

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<v Speaker 2>like super weapon of a terrorist or whatever, like, there's

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<v Speaker 2>not really much in keeping a two year old, like

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<v Speaker 2>you have to take care of it, and you have

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<v Speaker 2>to unless they could have killed me obviously, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that didn't sound like something that was past them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I guess it was the age because they

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have a problem killing the seventeen eighteen year old kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So you were found so who? Well, okay, so so

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<v Speaker 1>you were found outside of a carnival.

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<v Speaker 2>You say, I was found on the door. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>this like carnival ground basically, and there's this abandoned carnival

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<v Speaker 2>that has like the abandoned ferris wheel and everything, and

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<v Speaker 2>the gates who were closed, and I was found literally

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<v Speaker 2>right in front of the gates.

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<v Speaker 1>Who found you?

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<v Speaker 2>And my dad and.

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<v Speaker 1>His brothers how did they know to go to this carnival.

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<v Speaker 2>Because they all they told them was that your kid

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<v Speaker 2>had been been released. So everybody in my family and

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<v Speaker 2>extended family just took cars and they started driving around

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<v Speaker 2>the area.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was a small was it a small area?

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't necessarily a small area, but it was. It

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like looking areas where you wouldn't think

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<v Speaker 2>anything would be there, right, looking areas where a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of people wouldn't be there. Because if if I was

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, if I was dropped off in an area

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<v Speaker 2>with a lot of people, then people would see this

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<v Speaker 2>a person dropping off a random kid at a populated area.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>So your father eventually did find you.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we ended up we ended up moving to

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<v Speaker 2>Syria actually from there, which back down Syria was recently

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit better. But we moved to Syria, and

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<v Speaker 2>my dad was a he's a co mechanic. He's been

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<v Speaker 2>a co mechanic all his life. But in Syria you

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<v Speaker 2>can't really be a co mechanic because people tend to

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<v Speaker 2>put bombs under cars like I D type things and

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<v Speaker 2>have them explode. So my dad opened up his own

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<v Speaker 2>cell phone shop and he was fixing phones, selling simcards,

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<v Speaker 2>selling phones, type that type of business, right, And this

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<v Speaker 2>is this is kind of like I guess, this is

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<v Speaker 2>where the story gets crazy. The story he's been kind

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<v Speaker 2>of fucking and that's already. But my dad's a very

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<v Speaker 2>punctual man. My dad is rarely irrelated to anything. One day,

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<v Speaker 2>my dad literally sat down to have breakfast with my

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<v Speaker 2>mom and I. This was in Cereal. When this caused

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<v Speaker 2>my dad to be late to work, I should not, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I swear to God, hand on the fucking karan because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm muscled by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was not.

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<v Speaker 2>He When he was late, somebody had to knuck into

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<v Speaker 2>his shop and placed the bomb in his trash can,

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<v Speaker 2>and the bomb had been time to go off while

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<v Speaker 2>he was in the shop since he was late to

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<v Speaker 2>go to work. The bomb went off when he was

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<v Speaker 2>not in there, and it exploded the shop. It went

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<v Speaker 2>up and fucking flipped, and unfortunately there was like a

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<v Speaker 2>six year old kid in front of the shop that

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<v Speaker 2>had like lost the lower half of his leg and

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<v Speaker 2>he was taken care of. But then at that point

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<v Speaker 2>we were like, we gotta get the fuck out of

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<v Speaker 2>the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I was saying in my head. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you guys gotta get the fuck out of there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, So I mean after kind of fuck around

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<v Speaker 2>and find out twice, you gotta get the fuck out.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, sure he got out of the Middle East.

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<v Speaker 1>And so okay, so can I ask you this? And

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<v Speaker 1>you know, actually, I'll I guess I'll let you keep

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<v Speaker 1>talking because I might just be asking you a question

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<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna answer anyway. But like, what was preventing

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<v Speaker 1>you from leaving or was it just like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's your home and you wanted to stay, but things

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<v Speaker 1>got too dangerous for you to stay.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and mostly it was yeah, and mostly it was

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<v Speaker 2>family I have. We have no my family currently here

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<v Speaker 2>in America. We don't have any family around us. All

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<v Speaker 2>of the rest of my family is in still living

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<v Speaker 2>in Iraq, so we have no extent of family here.

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<v Speaker 2>So the reason we were moving to Syria is because

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<v Speaker 2>it was farther. It was far enough to where we

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<v Speaker 2>were out of the danger zone as we thought on,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was close enough where you would be able

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<v Speaker 2>to take a four hour bus ride or five hour

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<v Speaker 2>bus ride and go to Iraq and see your family.

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously it got too dangerous, so we kind of

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<v Speaker 2>had to get up and go, and we came to

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<v Speaker 2>America in June of two thousand and eight, I believe,

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<v Speaker 2>and I've been living here ever since. And my now

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<v Speaker 2>my dad has his own dealership and shop, and I've

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<v Speaker 2>been blessed and I've been lucky to go to school

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<v Speaker 2>and get my high school diploma, and now I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to college. Well I actually dropped out of college, but

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<v Speaker 2>now I'm transferring to another college and so.

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<v Speaker 1>How well, so how old were you when you went

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<v Speaker 1>to the US.

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<v Speaker 2>Two thousand and eight? I would have been around five.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Where where was it was? It was it difficult

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<v Speaker 1>for your family to go from the US to there?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean fun? Sorry? Was it difficult for your family

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<v Speaker 1>to go to the US for the Middle East?

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<v Speaker 2>I believe. I believe so because it was a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit right after the war. So it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>still like like tensris, like if we had like obviously

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<v Speaker 2>they saw it like when we were applying the things,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be like, oh, you have an Iraqi passport. The

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<v Speaker 2>chances of you really doing anything with an Iraqi passport

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of slim, the fucking nuns. But we got lucky.

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<v Speaker 2>We went. We we actually ended up coming to America

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<v Speaker 2>through It's like a I don't like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 2>the exact details, and I don't want to give you

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<v Speaker 2>false information. But it was like this church organization that

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<v Speaker 2>took us in as refugee and the general America and

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<v Speaker 2>we lived in their home for about a month.

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<v Speaker 1>Where where was where was? Where was their home again?

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<v Speaker 2>Pennsylvania?

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<v Speaker 1>Pennsylvania? Okay, Yeah, And.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I've been in Pennsylvania, Mina my entire life.

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<v Speaker 1>Of living in And so then did you end up

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<v Speaker 1>going did you? Did you finally like like did you

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<v Speaker 1>enroll in like uh, elementary school, middle school and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of live a normal American life from there.

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<v Speaker 2>I never I never went to school in Iraq or Syria.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried it, and my pent my mom was just

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<v Speaker 2>too anxious. She didn't really let me do anything. Actually,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the fun thing. I went back to Iraq in

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<v Speaker 2>the second grade to visit, and I was not allowed outside.

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<v Speaker 2>I could not go outside. I was literally not allowed

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<v Speaker 2>a fucking footstep outside. The most I could go was

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<v Speaker 2>to the courtyards, and that's because the courtyards was sealed

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<v Speaker 2>by a metal cage, like a metal.

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<v Speaker 1>F not not allowed by by by your mother.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, And the only time I was allowed outside is

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<v Speaker 2>if I was with if we were going into a

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<v Speaker 2>car and we were going.

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<v Speaker 1>Why why did uh why did you go back to

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<v Speaker 1>visit if it was still very dangerous? Just curious?

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't. It wasn't dangerous, that's the thing. It wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>still dangerous. It was it was just paranoia. Got mm hmm,

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<v Speaker 2>Like like what would happen if we did it again.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically the reason I guess we get through the reason

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<v Speaker 2>of this. Obviously, it's a crazy story, and I've been

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<v Speaker 2>through a lot, and my family has been through a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>and it kind of shaped me into who I am today,

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<v Speaker 2>because there's like, how I look at it is I've

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<v Speaker 2>been given a second chance of life. Because why did

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<v Speaker 2>that bullet hit my uncle and not hit me? Why

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<v Speaker 2>was it the seventeen year old kid that died and

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<v Speaker 2>not me? Right, there's just see so many things that

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<v Speaker 2>went right in my favor but wrong in other people's

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<v Speaker 2>favor that I'm still standing here today and then I'm

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<v Speaker 2>able to speak on the phone with you. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 2>am I a bad person? If I were to use

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<v Speaker 2>this story in my college as a college essay or

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<v Speaker 2>as scholarships and milk they shit out of it. Not

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<v Speaker 2>milk it, but use it and use it repetitively to

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<v Speaker 2>my advantage to get to win scholarships and to win

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<v Speaker 2>money and to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it says here that your your well, it says

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<v Speaker 1>here that your your primary dilemma is you're wondering if

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<v Speaker 1>you're a bad person. If you milk your if you

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<v Speaker 1>quote milk your story to get scholarship money for.

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<v Speaker 2>College exactly, like like scholarship money, and okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I let me, let me, let me, let me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me, I have thought I have a bunch of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you said that you went to school

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<v Speaker 1>and you dropped out. What happened to that?

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<v Speaker 2>Some ran into a couple issues that my living situation

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of I was going to college for free.

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<v Speaker 2>I had free tuition to to this university. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to say the university because then it's weird and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't have you had. Yeah, and basically all I

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<v Speaker 2>had to pay for was room and board. But my

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<v Speaker 2>girlfriend at the time had lived ten minutes away and

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<v Speaker 2>her parents had offered me to stay in her house

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<v Speaker 2>or in their healing and treat me as a child

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<v Speaker 2>and feed me as long as I got got good grades.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like, cool, fuck it, that sounds like

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<v Speaker 2>a great deal. I move in. First month of college

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<v Speaker 2>goes by. We're doing handy dandy. Keep in mind, even

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<v Speaker 2>in this relationship for four years. Second month of college, Hey, Robbie,

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<v Speaker 2>this isn't necessarily working out, and I think we should

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<v Speaker 2>break up. And basically I was like, oh, okay, I

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<v Speaker 2>guess i'llill fuck myself. And I had to drop out

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<v Speaker 2>because the commute was too far. The dorms were shit

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<v Speaker 2>like literally no ac no okay, so.

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<v Speaker 1>You couldn't okay, so you couldn't find a a suitable

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<v Speaker 1>living situation. So you dropped out.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly and the community was like two hours and with

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<v Speaker 2>the prices for gas and I wasn't forward, So.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, And so what did you do after? What

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<v Speaker 1>do you what did you do right after you dropped out?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you start working?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I had a job at Apple. I was working

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<v Speaker 2>at Apple as a specialist.

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<v Speaker 1>And I also I like Apple Apple or like the

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<v Speaker 1>Apple store.

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<v Speaker 2>No Apple store. I was working inside of an Apple store.

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<v Speaker 1>No, not okay, okay, because it's about to say, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are already working an Apple, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 1>the heck you need a school for. But okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>now you are working at the Apple store, you are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to go back to college, not any situation. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not anymore? What are you doing now? Just hanging out?

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<v Speaker 2>I work at this well, I just about a week

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<v Speaker 2>and a half ago, two weeks I started working at

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<v Speaker 2>this UH sports facility, like one of the biggest sports

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<v Speaker 2>facilities in America, it's called Spooky Nook, and so I

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<v Speaker 2>work there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now It's like okay, so so, so you are now

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<v Speaker 1>trying to go back to school in a situation that

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<v Speaker 1>is a more standard but you have your control over

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<v Speaker 1>that's not linked to a romantic relationship, which is a messy,

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<v Speaker 1>bad thing, and you're trying to do it again.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you trying to go to traditional right? Go

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<v Speaker 2>to the traditional route, dorm, dining hall?

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<v Speaker 1>What are you trying to go to school for.

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<v Speaker 2>Computer science?

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<v Speaker 1>Computer science? Beautiful? What do you want to do with

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<v Speaker 1>your life at this very moment, right now?

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<v Speaker 2>Or you talk in future?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean the future. I don't not neither of

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<v Speaker 1>us know what you are going to want to do

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<v Speaker 1>in the future. But what do you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>right now?

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<v Speaker 4>Right now?

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to I just want to be happy.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess to put it to I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>things how I want to do. I spent the last

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<v Speaker 2>four years in that relationship and and I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>did everything with them to to to to keep that

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<v Speaker 2>relationship and say this, and now I want to do

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<v Speaker 2>things for myself. I want to go to whatever college

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go to, even if that's across the

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<v Speaker 2>fucking country. I want to I want to do things

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<v Speaker 2>for myself. I want to be who I am, like

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<v Speaker 2>who I know I am, and do what I like doing,

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<v Speaker 2>be around the people, make new friends, and be around

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<v Speaker 2>people that I enjoy being around.

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<v Speaker 1>M So, so okay, So back to your your central dilemma.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I a bad person if I milk the story?

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, I mean, no, no, you're not. Second

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<v Speaker 1>of all, why would you in your in your mind?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get into your mind and your perspective

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Why would you feel like you're a bad

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<v Speaker 1>person for telling the story in an attempt to get

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<v Speaker 1>money to go to college. Why do you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>would make you a bad person?

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<v Speaker 2>Because I don't because sometimes when I tell people it,

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<v Speaker 2>they I get this vibe that they think that I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to use it as an excuse, like I was

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<v Speaker 2>kidnapped so I deserve this, or my uncle died so

0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I deserve this. But that's not how it is. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just it's that story has allowed and like like I said,

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<v Speaker 2>it's kind of given me a different perspective on life

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<v Speaker 2>to where it is. But people don't get that perspective.

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<v Speaker 2>People think that I'm doing it for money or this

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<v Speaker 2>or that, but I'm just doing it because it's genuinely

0:22:44.440 --> 0:22:48.080
<v Speaker 2>there was, genuinely a life changing experience, sing who I

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<v Speaker 2>am today.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's look at a couple of things. First of all,

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<v Speaker 1>I assume I don't know your family right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>assume you guys are not working with a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Well we yes, I mean the combined income between my

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<v Speaker 2>parents and like filling out that type information staff but like, yeah,

0:23:11.240 --> 0:23:16.119
<v Speaker 2>we're probably combined. It's under like under you.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't you don't have to give me your number, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's yeah, your you you you know, Okay. Because

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to get at here is, let's think

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<v Speaker 1>for a second, what is the why do these scholarships exist.

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<v Speaker 1>They exist to try to give opportunities to people who

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<v Speaker 1>were we were born in situations, who came from situations

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<v Speaker 1>that were not ideal, and these scholarships exist as a

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<v Speaker 1>way to to give opportunities two people. I'm repeating a

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I said. I'm repeating it to my I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it again, to give opportunities to people who came

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<v Speaker 1>from situations that were not ideal. You, my friend, have

0:24:07.000 --> 0:24:10.960
<v Speaker 1>proven over the course of this call, with that story

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.960
<v Speaker 1>that you came from a situation that was not particularly ideal,

0:24:15.600 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>being in Syria, with your dad getting blown up, with

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:23.600
<v Speaker 1>your uncle getting killed, with you getting kidnapped, not an

0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:29.720
<v Speaker 1>ideal situation by any means. And that story proves that,

0:24:30.119 --> 0:24:32.760
<v Speaker 1>that story proves that you've been through a lot. And

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<v Speaker 1>the story proves that you know, with this money that

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<v Speaker 1>has been allocated by people to be given to folks

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<v Speaker 1>who again came from non ideal circumstances and are now

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make something great of their lives, as you

0:24:50.600 --> 0:24:53.640
<v Speaker 1>are trying to do by going and pursuing a higher education,

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<v Speaker 1>you are, with this story proving to people that you

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<v Speaker 1>are indeed deserving of this money. In no way, shape

0:25:01.960 --> 0:25:04.200
<v Speaker 1>or form does that make you a bad person. Why

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<v Speaker 1>would that make you a bad person.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just some people just like like and some people

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<v Speaker 2>like you tell the story and it sounds it's it's

0:25:13.760 --> 0:25:16.280
<v Speaker 2>it's it's it's like okay, like, but some people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you remember that? Well, obviously I have parents

0:25:18.640 --> 0:25:23.720
<v Speaker 2>that tell me and and and and and keep in mind,

0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:28.160
<v Speaker 2>my mother didn't know I was kidnapped until nine hours later.

0:25:28.240 --> 0:25:30.200
<v Speaker 2>They hit it from her for nine hours. They told

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<v Speaker 2>her I was sleeping over.

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<v Speaker 1>But James, James, what okay are you? Are you just

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<v Speaker 1>afraid that people are going to think that? What are

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<v Speaker 1>you afraid of?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just I don't want to like like like and

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<v Speaker 2>this is like a personal fucking flaw, I guess, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I don't want people to think that I'm fucking

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<v Speaker 2>lying or taking advantage or or or or doing this

0:25:58.640 --> 0:26:02.919
<v Speaker 2>just to fucking get the money and bullshit this story

0:26:02.960 --> 0:26:03.879
<v Speaker 2>and that's not what it.

0:26:04.119 --> 0:26:09.320
<v Speaker 1>Okay, But James, James, James, you're not lying. This did

0:26:09.400 --> 0:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>happen to you?

0:26:13.000 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>Now you asked me, yes.

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.359
<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, No, I'm not asking. I'm telling you. No,

0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.760
<v Speaker 1>I know, I don't. I don't know. I fully believe,

0:26:18.800 --> 0:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>there's there's no bone in my body believes that you're

0:26:22.160 --> 0:26:24.280
<v Speaker 1>alying to mar right now, I'm telling you this. I'm

0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 1>stating the facts here. This did happen to you, Okay.

0:26:28.720 --> 0:26:31.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't think you would lie about this. And you, James,

0:26:32.760 --> 0:26:38.440
<v Speaker 1>know that this happened to you, okay, right, you don't

0:26:38.600 --> 0:26:41.080
<v Speaker 1>you believe your parents? You know that this is your story.

0:26:41.080 --> 0:26:47.240
<v Speaker 1>This is your story. You know it? Correct? Yes, so

0:26:47.359 --> 0:26:50.880
<v Speaker 1>this is your story. It happened. You know what happened.

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:54.720
<v Speaker 1>You know the truth. That's all that fucking matters who,

0:26:54.840 --> 0:27:00.119
<v Speaker 1>any other tertiary party, any of your friends, anyone listening

0:27:00.160 --> 0:27:04.240
<v Speaker 1>to this, any any other party that thinks to your life.

0:27:04.280 --> 0:27:09.680
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter, James, because you know the truth. You

0:27:09.880 --> 0:27:14.840
<v Speaker 1>know that you came from an unideal circumstance and you

0:27:14.880 --> 0:27:17.840
<v Speaker 1>are now trying to as you put in your own words,

0:27:17.840 --> 0:27:20.600
<v Speaker 1>you were saying, going to college for me is an

0:27:20.600 --> 0:27:23.960
<v Speaker 1>opportunity because I was kidnapped and I almost fucking died

0:27:25.520 --> 0:27:29.280
<v Speaker 1>multiple times, and I now have an opportunity to do

0:27:29.400 --> 0:27:32.919
<v Speaker 1>something really worthwhile with my life. And that's what this

0:27:33.080 --> 0:27:36.960
<v Speaker 1>fucking scholarship money that's out there is for James. And

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:42.959
<v Speaker 1>nobody needs to know that or be assured of that

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.520
<v Speaker 1>other than you. So I don't really care what your

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.920
<v Speaker 1>friends think or what anyone else thinks except for you.

0:27:50.960 --> 0:27:54.440
<v Speaker 1>And so what I think you gotta do is really

0:27:54.480 --> 0:27:59.320
<v Speaker 1>internalize the fact that this is your story. This is

0:27:59.359 --> 0:28:01.960
<v Speaker 1>the truth is that's what happened to you, and you

0:28:02.040 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>do deserve to be able to go to college, and

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:09.280
<v Speaker 1>you do deserve these opportunities, and anyone else's perspective on

0:28:09.320 --> 0:28:12.160
<v Speaker 1>that really does not matter except I guess the people

0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:15.240
<v Speaker 1>who are giving you the money.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.840
<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I guess the problem. I guess it comes

0:28:20.880 --> 0:28:23.399
<v Speaker 2>back to me worrying about other people's things. But like

0:28:23.400 --> 0:28:24.360
<v Speaker 2>you said, it.

0:28:24.280 --> 0:28:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Does, this is coming back to, This is coming back

0:28:26.200 --> 0:28:28.919
<v Speaker 1>to like this is a classic thing. This is like

0:28:28.960 --> 0:28:33.399
<v Speaker 1>a universal thing of caring about other people's opinions.

0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 2>You gotta get over in situations that their opinion doesn't matter.

0:28:38.480 --> 0:28:40.720
<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter. You know, you know what you're telling.

0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>You know you're telling the truth. That's all that matters.

0:28:43.400 --> 0:28:45.920
<v Speaker 1>So other people's opinions that it just doesn't matter, James,

0:28:46.440 --> 0:28:50.040
<v Speaker 1>So please write your essay. Please tell the story. Tell

0:28:50.200 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 1>tell those people in the college admissions, in the scholarship essays,

0:28:54.880 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 1>Tell them the story exactly how you told it to us,

0:28:57.360 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>because I was compelled by it, you know, I mean,

0:29:00.040 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 1>this is this is a trait. It's a gnarly fucking story.

0:29:02.440 --> 0:29:04.600
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's a gnarly fucking story. That's why you

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>called in with it. It's a gnarly story. And you

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 1>and and and it's not just a gnarly story, it's

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:16.440
<v Speaker 1>there's a thing behind it, which again you explained, which

0:29:16.520 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 1>is I really feel strongly. I'll repeat this. I really

0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:26.320
<v Speaker 1>feel strongly that I was given a second chance in life,

0:29:26.840 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>and you believe that. You told us that, and I

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:31.840
<v Speaker 1>think you believe it, and I think it's true. You

0:29:31.920 --> 0:29:35.280
<v Speaker 1>believe strongly that you have were given a second chance

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:37.160
<v Speaker 1>in life, and you want to make the most out

0:29:37.160 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>of that second chance. And that's your truth and that's

0:29:40.520 --> 0:29:43.000
<v Speaker 1>all that matter. Anyone else's opinion on that doesn't matter.

0:29:43.440 --> 0:29:48.640
<v Speaker 1>That's your thing. So go forward with that, Let that

0:29:48.840 --> 0:29:52.200
<v Speaker 1>take you wherever you want it to, and on the

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:57.760
<v Speaker 1>way to don't give a fuck what stup anyone thinks

0:29:57.880 --> 0:30:00.480
<v Speaker 1>about it, because you know it be true.

0:30:03.840 --> 0:30:07.200
<v Speaker 2>That feels I'm gonna that that that that feels like

0:30:07.640 --> 0:30:12.480
<v Speaker 2>from a like like it just feels good to hear,

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 2>like like I guess I just needed to not sound

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:17.920
<v Speaker 2>like a bitch, but I need to reassurance like like

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.920
<v Speaker 2>it's like like like I and I genuinely do believe

0:30:22.000 --> 0:30:25.520
<v Speaker 2>like everything that I do in my life, like from

0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:28.520
<v Speaker 2>when I was able to contextualize and figure out what

0:30:28.560 --> 0:30:30.040
<v Speaker 2>I wanted to do in my life, I figured out

0:30:30.080 --> 0:30:32.880
<v Speaker 2>that everything that I do now is a second opportunity

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>to do it, because that's that's how it is it's

0:30:35.840 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>I've been given the second opportunity to do whatever I

0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.959
<v Speaker 2>want in my life and to live at how I

0:30:41.000 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 2>want to and because I'm choosing how to do it,

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:46.560
<v Speaker 2>and even with like even with my I want a

0:30:46.640 --> 0:30:51.400
<v Speaker 2>major in in computer science. But a majority of that

0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:53.880
<v Speaker 2>comes from I've done a little bit of coding and stuff,

0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:57.280
<v Speaker 2>but a majority comes out of that comes from the money.

0:30:57.440 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even gonna lie it comes from the money

0:30:58.760 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 2>because I want to be able to to like support

0:31:01.560 --> 0:31:04.720
<v Speaker 2>my family and my brothers and my sister and my

0:31:04.920 --> 0:31:07.840
<v Speaker 2>and my parents. But also I have this. I have this,

0:31:07.960 --> 0:31:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I have this passion for social work and allowing people because,

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:12.840
<v Speaker 2>like I said, when we came here, we came to

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:14.400
<v Speaker 2>a church, and I want to be able to give

0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:16.480
<v Speaker 2>back to the same people that allowed me to be

0:31:16.560 --> 0:31:18.400
<v Speaker 2>here today and to be able to talk to you.

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 2>And I didn't do I didn't even know how to

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:23.000
<v Speaker 2>speak a word a lick of the English before I

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.680
<v Speaker 2>came here. The first week that I came here, we date.

0:31:25.800 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 2>She handed me this is a truth, so I remember this.

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:32.479
<v Speaker 2>She handed me a doctor pepper for dinner at Dan

0:31:32.760 --> 0:31:35.840
<v Speaker 2>hitting me at doctor pepper. I cracked it open and

0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.160
<v Speaker 2>I drank it, and it was like the most disgusting

0:31:38.240 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 2>thing that had adver tasted, because I never had soda

0:31:41.360 --> 0:31:45.720
<v Speaker 2>before that, and and I like and I didn't want

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.440
<v Speaker 2>to be rude, and I also didn't know how to

0:31:47.440 --> 0:31:50.760
<v Speaker 2>speak English, and so I just down the whole doctor Pepper,

0:31:51.480 --> 0:31:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and she thought that I enjoyed it so much that

0:31:53.800 --> 0:31:55.520
<v Speaker 2>she gave me another one. And I had to look

0:31:55.560 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 2>at her, and I didn't know how to be English,

0:31:56.840 --> 0:31:58.720
<v Speaker 2>and I just shook my head and I stuck my

0:31:58.800 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>tongue out like like like in a sign of disgust.

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:05.200
<v Speaker 2>And I've come from doing that, from using facial expressions

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:08.080
<v Speaker 2>to describe how I feel, to be able to write

0:32:08.440 --> 0:32:11.080
<v Speaker 2>an essay on my life and use it to myself.

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Up. Yes, you've you've h James. You've had a beautiful

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:19.360
<v Speaker 1>journey in your life, and this journey has inspired and

0:32:19.360 --> 0:32:21.120
<v Speaker 1>everything you're talking to me about right now. You want

0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:23.520
<v Speaker 1>to go into social work to help people in the

0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:25.480
<v Speaker 1>same way that you were helped. You want to go

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.680
<v Speaker 1>into coding so that you can afford to support your family.

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>You have altruistic passions and motivations, and I just need

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:39.960
<v Speaker 1>you to know, these are these, these are these truths

0:32:40.000 --> 0:32:44.320
<v Speaker 1>that you have, these motivations you have, you know, you

0:32:44.360 --> 0:32:47.640
<v Speaker 1>know where they came from, you know where they will

0:32:47.680 --> 0:32:51.120
<v Speaker 1>guide you. And that's all that matters. And nobody can

0:32:51.480 --> 0:32:56.680
<v Speaker 1>everyone in the fucking world could believe that that you're

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:59.239
<v Speaker 1>not telling the truth. Whatever it is, nobody, nobody can

0:32:59.240 --> 0:33:02.200
<v Speaker 1>take it away from you. Not nobody can take that

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.400
<v Speaker 1>away from you, James, So just keep following that and

0:33:05.440 --> 0:33:08.880
<v Speaker 1>stop giving a fuck about other people's perspectives on your

0:33:08.960 --> 0:33:13.280
<v Speaker 1>internal life motivations and your truths. Well, can you do

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:13.760
<v Speaker 1>that for me?

0:33:13.880 --> 0:33:17.280
<v Speaker 2>Thank you? Thank you? I can. I'm gonna do it,

0:33:17.720 --> 0:33:19.120
<v Speaker 2>not only do it for you, but I'm gonna do

0:33:19.120 --> 0:33:20.120
<v Speaker 2>it for myself. How about that.

0:33:20.600 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 1>Please don't do it for me, do it for yourself.

0:33:23.680 --> 0:33:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I will. I will. It's just yeah, I don't want

0:33:25.960 --> 0:33:32.280
<v Speaker 2>to keep you here much longer. But it's uh, it's

0:33:32.320 --> 0:33:34.320
<v Speaker 2>it's also like there's a like, like a very strong

0:33:34.360 --> 0:33:35.680
<v Speaker 2>part of me, like I said, give back to my

0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:39.160
<v Speaker 2>parents because of where we came from, and we literally

0:33:39.160 --> 0:33:44.280
<v Speaker 2>lived I should not we lived in a box like

0:33:44.440 --> 0:33:46.760
<v Speaker 2>it was. It was basically a closet. Lived in a

0:33:46.800 --> 0:33:50.200
<v Speaker 2>closet that had two mattresses on the floor, had a

0:33:50.280 --> 0:33:53.680
<v Speaker 2>kitchen and I had to hear and that was it.

0:33:54.640 --> 0:33:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Thank you have you get a door? Thankful for the door.

0:33:58.400 --> 0:34:00.520
<v Speaker 2>So the weather got shitty and there's a lotting, but

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:06.520
<v Speaker 2>we that was that was a serious by the way, Well.

0:34:06.600 --> 0:34:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Well listen, James, is is there you know? Look man,

0:34:12.160 --> 0:34:16.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad. I'm glad that you I hope, and it

0:34:16.520 --> 0:34:20.480
<v Speaker 1>sounds like we have gotten somewhere in this conversation. I

0:34:20.520 --> 0:34:24.840
<v Speaker 1>really hope we have because I think that you deserve

0:34:24.960 --> 0:34:28.760
<v Speaker 1>to feel confident in your truths and not let random

0:34:28.840 --> 0:34:33.359
<v Speaker 1>fucking people, you know, mess with that confidence because it's

0:34:33.600 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 1>the really powerful thing that you've got. I hope you

0:34:37.440 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>come away from this conversation really believing that is there

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:47.600
<v Speaker 1>any other aspect of of this or of your story,

0:34:47.680 --> 0:34:50.120
<v Speaker 1>or of your future or anything that you kind of

0:34:50.520 --> 0:34:54.200
<v Speaker 1>feel like we didn't cover before before we do that.

0:34:55.160 --> 0:34:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

0:34:55.760 --> 0:35:00.239
<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's for like not too.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:01.520
<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

0:35:01.520 --> 0:35:04.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to sound too but I think it

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.359
<v Speaker 2>gives a It gives a perspective onto of people. There's

0:35:08.360 --> 0:35:09.960
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people that are that are like me,

0:35:10.040 --> 0:35:13.480
<v Speaker 2>not like that they've kidnapped, they that they've come from

0:35:14.160 --> 0:35:18.200
<v Speaker 2>from from kind of nothing. The work worked, their family

0:35:18.280 --> 0:35:20.600
<v Speaker 2>has worked, and they've worked so hard to achieve and

0:35:20.600 --> 0:35:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and and they kind of they kind of get undermine

0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:26.240
<v Speaker 2>and they don't they don't get the attention they deserve,

0:35:26.280 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 2>and they don't get the they don't get acknowledged for

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.520
<v Speaker 2>how hard they fucking work, and and they should and

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:33.200
<v Speaker 2>it sucks because not everybody's gonna do it.

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>But James, real quick, what's what's what's your future goal?

0:35:39.200 --> 0:35:40.280
<v Speaker 1>You want to get into programming?

0:35:40.320 --> 0:35:47.560
<v Speaker 2>You said, yeah, currently, I have this internship at the

0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:51.920
<v Speaker 2>A cybersecurity, saying, so, cybersecurity is kind of the road

0:35:52.000 --> 0:35:54.799
<v Speaker 2>that I want to take in because most comfortable with it.

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 2>So cybersecurity, Well.

0:35:58.440 --> 0:36:00.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, listen to James. I I I I want to say,

0:36:00.640 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>I really appreciate you calling in and sharing your story

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:05.640
<v Speaker 1>with us. It's a gnarly story. I don't and I

0:36:07.120 --> 0:36:10.279
<v Speaker 1>really hope I'm glad that it sounds like you're coming

0:36:10.280 --> 0:36:15.000
<v Speaker 1>away from this conversation feeling more confident in your truths.

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I hope that that stays like that as you write

0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>your essays and do your things and follow your path.

0:36:22.400 --> 0:36:26.399
<v Speaker 1>And thank you for calling. Man, Is there anything else

0:36:26.480 --> 0:36:28.000
<v Speaker 1>you want to say to the people of the computer

0:36:28.040 --> 0:36:28.719
<v Speaker 1>before we go.

0:36:30.360 --> 0:36:34.279
<v Speaker 2>To the people computed. Take it from me, take it

0:36:34.320 --> 0:36:37.319
<v Speaker 2>from a Wilder said, do what the fuck you want.

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:41.320
<v Speaker 2>Do it for yourself and your family. If that's something

0:36:41.320 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 2>that you that you work for. Be happy. Do what

0:36:44.160 --> 0:36:46.759
<v Speaker 2>makes you happy. Surround yourself with people that make you

0:36:46.800 --> 0:36:48.200
<v Speaker 2>happy and that push you to be better. Do you

0:36:48.200 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 2>not surround yourself people that hold you back and that

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>are selfish. I think that the devil in this world

0:36:54.360 --> 0:36:57.560
<v Speaker 2>is being selfish. Be selfless, help others around you, allow

0:36:57.640 --> 0:37:00.319
<v Speaker 2>people to help you. Don't afraid to reach out sad.

0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Tell people you're sad. It's okay. There's nothing wrong with

0:37:03.400 --> 0:37:05.720
<v Speaker 2>being sad, which I'll do with therapist. I go to therapy.

0:37:06.040 --> 0:37:08.839
<v Speaker 2>There's nothing wrong with say it's one of the best

0:37:08.840 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>decisions I made for myself. There's so many things outside

0:37:13.960 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 2>that can that can help you. You're not alone no

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 2>matter what. And yeah, man, thank you for taking the time.

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.240
<v Speaker 2>This has been This has been amazing. It went literally

0:37:22.320 --> 0:37:24.640
<v Speaker 2>ten times better than I than I thought you could have.

0:37:24.719 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Man, But beautiful, beautiful. I'm really happy to hear that. Man.

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:31.239
<v Speaker 1>I appreciate you sharing this all with us, and I'll

0:37:31.280 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 1>talk to you again soon. Man, good luck with those essays.

0:37:33.760 --> 0:37:35.440
<v Speaker 2>All right, all right, man, I'll call you back if

0:37:35.480 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I get if I get into the colleges I'm applying.

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.680
<v Speaker 1>Please do give us a little updick, give us a

0:37:40.719 --> 0:37:43.000
<v Speaker 1>little up to have a good have aggressed that.

0:37:43.120 --> 0:37:45.600
<v Speaker 2>James, all right, you as well, Thank you.

0:37:46.680 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>I liked that call a lot. I like that call

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:53.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot. That call touched on a lot of themes

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:59.080
<v Speaker 1>that I'm very interested in. James has this story and

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:06.959
<v Speaker 1>he's like concerned with other people's saying to him, whether

0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>or not. I don't even I didn't even get from

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:11.080
<v Speaker 1>him if this is like a thing that people have

0:38:11.239 --> 0:38:12.960
<v Speaker 1>been saying to him, or if this is a thing

0:38:13.000 --> 0:38:16.399
<v Speaker 1>that he thinks other people think about him. But both

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.040
<v Speaker 1>of them are are are irrelevant that he's in his

0:38:19.080 --> 0:38:20.960
<v Speaker 1>mind like, oh, people are gonna think I'm lying. People

0:38:21.000 --> 0:38:24.680
<v Speaker 1>are gonna think I'm you know, just milking it for attention.

0:38:24.760 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>People are going to think this and that and the

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:30.920
<v Speaker 1>other thing. But it's like, you know, let's go back

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:34.719
<v Speaker 1>to his truth, right, which is this happened to me.

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:39.280
<v Speaker 1>I was there. I was in fucking Syria and Iraq.

0:38:39.440 --> 0:38:40.960
<v Speaker 1>My family was there.

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>This.

0:38:41.400 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>I know this. I don't need other people's validation on

0:38:45.800 --> 0:38:50.400
<v Speaker 1>this to be true, because I know it happened. I

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>know what I've been through. I went, I came to America,

0:38:53.800 --> 0:38:55.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't speak any English. I had to go from

0:38:56.200 --> 0:38:59.480
<v Speaker 1>sticking my tongue out to now being able to have

0:38:59.719 --> 0:39:02.600
<v Speaker 1>fluent conversation. Was hard. I was there and I know it,

0:39:02.640 --> 0:39:07.160
<v Speaker 1>and it was hard. And I now want to take

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>that and go back and like try to help other

0:39:12.080 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>folks who we are dealing with similar things in the

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:20.040
<v Speaker 1>way that you know, this church helped me when I

0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:22.040
<v Speaker 1>was dealing with some shit. And this is a beautiful,

0:39:22.080 --> 0:39:27.560
<v Speaker 1>powerful thing, And I just hope he realizes it and

0:39:27.800 --> 0:39:30.920
<v Speaker 1>realizes the strength of it, that it's so strong that

0:39:30.960 --> 0:39:38.400
<v Speaker 1>a guy on the internet typing fake and is not anything,

0:39:39.080 --> 0:39:42.440
<v Speaker 1>it's just not worth paying attention to. He's got a

0:39:42.440 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>stronger thing to be rattled by that, and I hope

0:39:46.080 --> 0:39:47.640
<v Speaker 1>he follows it, and I hope it takes him to

0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:54.000
<v Speaker 1>wonderful places. That was a good call. I like that.

0:39:54.960 --> 0:40:01.759
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for sharing. James, Keiko. Hi, what's what's going on?

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<v Speaker 5>Hanging out?

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.800
<v Speaker 1>Keiko? It says here that you you are in Tokyo

0:40:07.960 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 1>right now? Yeah? Wait, Lyle, Yes, this is.

0:40:14.200 --> 0:40:17.840
<v Speaker 5>Me Wow, your voice sounds so different.

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:21.879
<v Speaker 1>How does it normally sound?

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:25.200
<v Speaker 4>Well?

0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:28.200
<v Speaker 5>I wish I had perfect pitch and I could tell

0:40:28.200 --> 0:40:30.160
<v Speaker 5>you exactly, but it's like a different tongue.

0:40:30.760 --> 0:40:32.440
<v Speaker 1>Are you Can you do an impression of me? Is

0:40:32.440 --> 0:40:34.279
<v Speaker 1>that what you're trying to do right now?

0:40:36.000 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Keek, are you there?

0:40:41.200 --> 0:40:42.280
<v Speaker 5>I can't do an impression.

0:40:42.640 --> 0:40:44.839
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:40:44.920 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't think I can do an impression of you

0:40:46.719 --> 0:40:54.879
<v Speaker 1>either without sounding mean. Oh man, Keiko, what's going on? Kiko?

0:40:54.920 --> 0:40:57.799
<v Speaker 1>I picked your call because you're are you? Are you

0:40:57.960 --> 0:41:00.239
<v Speaker 1>just in Tokyo or do you? Do you live there?

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:02.000
<v Speaker 1>Were you born there? What's what's the deal?

0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 5>I was born here and I live here now. Uh,

0:41:09.440 --> 0:41:13.600
<v Speaker 5>but I've spent half of my life in America?

0:41:14.800 --> 0:41:15.960
<v Speaker 1>What part of America?

0:41:17.239 --> 0:41:18.080
<v Speaker 5>Washington State?

0:41:19.560 --> 0:41:23.960
<v Speaker 1>That's cool? Man? I am you know I'm playing. I'm

0:41:24.000 --> 0:41:27.480
<v Speaker 1>going to take a trip to Japan either in December?

0:41:28.760 --> 0:41:31.200
<v Speaker 1>Did I say that already? When? Did I say that? Well?

0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 5>I told you in chat to come to Tokyo like

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.480
<v Speaker 5>two days ago or something, and you said you were

0:41:36.520 --> 0:41:39.160
<v Speaker 5>thinking about coming in two months, and I really want.

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:39.800
<v Speaker 2>To do you around.

0:41:40.600 --> 0:41:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm thinking about Oh shit, you know what? Actually, okay,

0:41:44.680 --> 0:41:47.760
<v Speaker 1>let's put a pin in this Keiko, because I actually

0:41:47.840 --> 0:41:51.120
<v Speaker 1>do need somebody because I'm going to do street interviews

0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:55.320
<v Speaker 1>in Japan and I need someone for you to translate

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:57.480
<v Speaker 1>for me. Wow.

0:41:58.040 --> 0:42:01.920
<v Speaker 5>Perfect, Oh my Japanese is better than my English.

0:42:01.960 --> 0:42:06.880
<v Speaker 1>Perfect perfect? Okay, sweet No, let's put a pin in

0:42:06.920 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 1>that message me on Discord or Instagram or something and

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:11.520
<v Speaker 1>we'll keep in touch.

0:42:11.560 --> 0:42:14.240
<v Speaker 5>For I'll do Instagram. I don't know how to do discord.

0:42:14.680 --> 0:42:22.120
<v Speaker 1>Okay, perfect. I was going to say, uh sh I was.

0:42:22.200 --> 0:42:24.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about when I go there. I'm trying to

0:42:24.160 --> 0:42:25.800
<v Speaker 1>decide whether or not I want to do a show,

0:42:26.640 --> 0:42:28.879
<v Speaker 1>because like I'm on this kick now, like I want

0:42:28.920 --> 0:42:31.719
<v Speaker 1>to go internationally and do shows. I don't I don't know.

0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:34.960
<v Speaker 1>I know there's like there's this place called the Tokyo

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:39.160
<v Speaker 1>Comedy Bar that I think does stuff, But I don't

0:42:39.160 --> 0:42:42.000
<v Speaker 1>know if I have enough people who listen to me

0:42:42.040 --> 0:42:42.560
<v Speaker 1>in Japan.

0:42:44.080 --> 0:42:47.040
<v Speaker 5>Oh, for sure you do. I was talking about like

0:42:47.080 --> 0:42:49.479
<v Speaker 5>trying to call in and just like a random friend

0:42:49.560 --> 0:42:51.080
<v Speaker 5>was like, oh my god, you listen just.

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Like Lyle two.

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Really yeah.

0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 5>But I feel like it's all like non Japanese people

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.000
<v Speaker 5>because Japanese people don't want to speak English.

0:43:00.239 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 1>Well, does she live in does your friend live? Does

0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>your friend live in Tokyo?

0:43:06.440 --> 0:43:06.760
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:43:07.360 --> 0:43:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, Well I figured it wouldn't be Japanese. Okay. I

0:43:10.920 --> 0:43:14.400
<v Speaker 1>figured it would be like, I guess, expats or do

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.520
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people in Japan speak English.

0:43:19.080 --> 0:43:23.400
<v Speaker 5>Japanese people don't, like I'm married to a guy who's

0:43:23.480 --> 0:43:26.040
<v Speaker 5>Japanese and doesn't speak English.

0:43:26.160 --> 0:43:33.360
<v Speaker 1>Interesting? Interesting? Yeah, how did you meet him?

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:36.880
<v Speaker 5>We actually met on Tinder, but it's really magical and

0:43:36.960 --> 0:43:39.280
<v Speaker 5>he's yeah, he's my soulmate.

0:43:39.480 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 1>So what is can I ask? What is Japanese Tinder? Like?

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:52.960
<v Speaker 5>Just as bad as Tinder anywhere, I think? Okay, but

0:43:54.000 --> 0:43:56.120
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess I never really dated in Japan

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.480
<v Speaker 5>too much. But it's like, I don't know, it all

0:43:59.480 --> 0:44:01.040
<v Speaker 5>feels very sticky and gross.

0:44:01.719 --> 0:44:04.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you meet him on Japanese tender?

0:44:05.760 --> 0:44:06.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah?

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:08.840
<v Speaker 1>But did you get lucky? And it just didn't?

0:44:09.320 --> 0:44:09.360
<v Speaker 2>No?

0:44:09.480 --> 0:44:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, go ahead, I interrupted you.

0:44:10.960 --> 0:44:15.040
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, no, no, yeah. We were both about to

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:17.560
<v Speaker 5>fucking like do et our accounts because it was so

0:44:17.800 --> 0:44:22.839
<v Speaker 5>like cringey. But yeah, just and like it was at

0:44:22.840 --> 0:44:24.680
<v Speaker 5>the point where I stopped giving a ship and so

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 5>I was just like messaging random people like stupid things.

0:44:28.840 --> 0:44:32.400
<v Speaker 5>But then he like came back with the same energy.

0:44:32.520 --> 0:44:38.440
<v Speaker 5>So we met up in shibu yah h and turned

0:44:38.480 --> 0:44:41.240
<v Speaker 5>out so when we first saw each other, we both

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:45.080
<v Speaker 5>had a shaved head and yellow pants on and where

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:49.040
<v Speaker 5>the exact same height, really, and I was just like, yeah,

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:50.399
<v Speaker 5>what the heck? Yeah?

0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:53.319
<v Speaker 1>Did you take that as a sign of.

0:44:53.280 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 5>Some kind kind of but not as much as like

0:44:58.320 --> 0:45:01.640
<v Speaker 5>I feel like someone else might think. I mean, like,

0:45:01.680 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 5>what a coincidence. But I didn't think too much about it.

0:45:05.200 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 1>How long have you guys, you said, he's your husband?

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:09.520
<v Speaker 5>Mm hm, now he is.

0:45:10.120 --> 0:45:11.240
<v Speaker 1>How long have you guys been.

0:45:11.080 --> 0:45:13.560
<v Speaker 5>Married for for a year?

0:45:13.800 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>For a year now, congratulations?

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:16.080
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:45:16.080 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>How long have you been like dating in general?

0:45:19.480 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 5>Three years?

0:45:20.080 --> 0:45:22.680
<v Speaker 1>I think, Yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome.

0:45:23.960 --> 0:45:24.839
<v Speaker 2>It's cool.

0:45:25.280 --> 0:45:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Do Now I'm wondering. I'm I'm probably gonna go in

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:33.520
<v Speaker 1>Japan like December January, and I'm gonna do I'm want

0:45:33.520 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 1>to do these streen interviews. Would love your help to translate.

0:45:36.640 --> 0:45:40.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm wondering. Wait, I hold that thought because I want

0:45:40.560 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>to ask you what you were gonna say. But I'm wondering, like,

0:45:46.360 --> 0:45:52.840
<v Speaker 1>how in like public in Japan, how willing are people

0:45:53.000 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 1>to like interact with nonsense? Like if I set up

0:45:57.800 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>my chairs and my sign and stuff and invite people

0:46:01.000 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>to come sit down, Like, are are just most people

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 1>going to gloss over me? Or do you think we'll

0:46:05.840 --> 0:46:07.200
<v Speaker 1>be able to get folks to sit down?

0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.360
<v Speaker 5>You hit up the right places and there'll be plenty

0:46:11.360 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 5>of people who will want to hang out.

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:21.000
<v Speaker 6>Okay, the right place you're yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel

0:46:21.040 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 6>like I mean, Japanese people love that sort of like

0:46:23.160 --> 0:46:29.279
<v Speaker 6>TV show like interview, interesting dynamic, so I think, and

0:46:29.320 --> 0:46:31.360
<v Speaker 6>there's some like late night shows that do that.

0:46:31.480 --> 0:46:34.239
<v Speaker 5>It's really silly. So it might also be like the

0:46:34.360 --> 0:46:35.279
<v Speaker 5>place and time of day.

0:46:36.520 --> 0:46:38.280
<v Speaker 1>Well, okay, there was a thought that you were holding

0:46:38.280 --> 0:46:39.080
<v Speaker 1>me you were going to tell.

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:44.560
<v Speaker 5>Me, oh, well you should if as soon as you

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.239
<v Speaker 5>know when you're coming, I can take as much time

0:46:47.280 --> 0:46:49.680
<v Speaker 5>off as I need because I'm like kind of you know,

0:46:49.840 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 5>I have a flexible schedule.

0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:53.440
<v Speaker 1>What do you what do you do for work?

0:46:54.920 --> 0:46:56.760
<v Speaker 5>I I tattoo.

0:46:58.440 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 1>As like a Japanese tattoo place. Yeah, I guess that

0:47:03.800 --> 0:47:05.839
<v Speaker 1>was a ship question of me because if you live

0:47:05.880 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>in Japan and you are a tattoo artist, you would

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:10.800
<v Speaker 1>be at a Japanese.

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:15.760
<v Speaker 6>Tattoo It's not like the traditional like hand done Japanese style.

0:47:17.200 --> 0:47:18.319
<v Speaker 1>What what style is it?

0:47:20.160 --> 0:47:26.880
<v Speaker 5>Mmmmmm Everyone at the studio does sort of like like

0:47:27.040 --> 0:47:31.439
<v Speaker 5>more contemporary, like Japanese like stuff, and then I kind

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:35.839
<v Speaker 5>of stick out because I do like scribbly, rainbow, sparkly

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 5>weird stuff.

0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:39.680
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's good to it's good to be different,

0:47:40.600 --> 0:47:41.440
<v Speaker 1>makes you stand out.

0:47:41.600 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Now let me ask you this again. Sorry, I'm making

0:47:47.760 --> 0:47:49.319
<v Speaker 1>you into my travel agent, but.

0:47:50.120 --> 0:47:51.759
<v Speaker 5>No, I'm so happy to do that.

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:56.399
<v Speaker 1>I I definitely go. I'm definitely going to Tokyo. I'm

0:47:56.440 --> 0:48:00.760
<v Speaker 1>definitely gonna go to Kyoto. I've heard cool things about Kyoto.

0:48:02.600 --> 0:48:05.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go for two weeks. Is there anywhere else

0:48:05.719 --> 0:48:07.640
<v Speaker 1>in the two weeks that you think I should hit

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:13.520
<v Speaker 1>besides Tokyo and Kyoto? Osaka, Okay, Osaka could be cool.

0:48:13.600 --> 0:48:16.720
<v Speaker 5>Osaka is like the comedy capital of Japan.

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:20.040
<v Speaker 1>The comedy for like Japanese comedy or American comedy.

0:48:20.520 --> 0:48:27.480
<v Speaker 5>It's for Japanese comedy. Like a question, there's a specific

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:31.920
<v Speaker 5>die like Japanese dialect. I guess that's from Osaka, and

0:48:31.960 --> 0:48:35.279
<v Speaker 5>like pretty much all comedians are from Osaka and they

0:48:35.280 --> 0:48:39.560
<v Speaker 5>have that distinct dialect. So it's like comedy equals Osaka.

0:48:41.520 --> 0:48:44.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to make an Instagram I did this recently

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:46.840
<v Speaker 1>with just Europe in general. I'm gonna make an Instagram

0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:50.440
<v Speaker 1>story and I'm gonna be like, who in who currently

0:48:50.440 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 1>lives in Japan and would come see me if I

0:48:52.360 --> 0:48:55.280
<v Speaker 1>did a show there, and if I get like ten people,

0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:57.360
<v Speaker 1>I mean.

0:48:58.320 --> 0:49:01.800
<v Speaker 5>Oh, okay, I think Japan small enough that everyone would

0:49:01.840 --> 0:49:03.560
<v Speaker 5>like come to you.

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:06.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, I guess I just don't know if

0:49:06.880 --> 0:49:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I have enough. Well, I'll find you know if I

0:49:10.040 --> 0:49:12.719
<v Speaker 1>do it. If I do it and you and your

0:49:12.760 --> 0:49:14.719
<v Speaker 1>friends show up and I just spend the whole thing

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:19.160
<v Speaker 1>interviewing you guys, that would be a win win.

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:21.600
<v Speaker 5>I could die hardily.

0:49:23.120 --> 0:49:25.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, real quick before we go, it's us here that

0:49:28.040 --> 0:49:33.120
<v Speaker 1>you had an acid trip recently and that you what

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:37.000
<v Speaker 1>what what was going on in this acid trip? Mmm?

0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:41.000
<v Speaker 5>So it was my birthday and my husband and I

0:49:41.040 --> 0:49:49.680
<v Speaker 5>were taking acid in the mountains and I just I

0:49:49.719 --> 0:49:51.399
<v Speaker 5>don't know where it came from, but I was just

0:49:51.480 --> 0:49:55.239
<v Speaker 5>like the gecko, the gecko, I really want to talk

0:49:55.280 --> 0:49:59.160
<v Speaker 5>to the gecko, and I mean he doesn't speak English.

0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.080
<v Speaker 5>That was like Frank you as gecko in Japanese.

0:50:02.640 --> 0:50:05.000
<v Speaker 1>But by the way, what is is it? Is it

0:50:05.000 --> 0:50:06.879
<v Speaker 1>it's Yamori right or something like that.

0:50:08.280 --> 0:50:10.160
<v Speaker 5>Oh, it's YAMMOI. Oh, I don't know. There's like so

0:50:10.400 --> 0:50:13.520
<v Speaker 5>there's I kept saying tokage, but that might be lizard.

0:50:13.760 --> 0:50:18.400
<v Speaker 5>I don't know specifics tokage, but we do have a

0:50:18.480 --> 0:50:22.080
<v Speaker 5>yammody living in our post uh our mail box.

0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:23.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:27.520
<v Speaker 4>Acid, Yeah, I was on acid and I was just

0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:32.040
<v Speaker 4>like talking about you. I was just like, I've been

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:35.799
<v Speaker 4>really wanting to talk to the Geck and I know

0:50:35.880 --> 0:50:38.880
<v Speaker 4>it's going to happen, and I'm going to tell him

0:50:38.920 --> 0:50:42.280
<v Speaker 4>I'm in Japan and I do tattoos.

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.440
<v Speaker 5>And he was just like really encouraging and he's like.

0:50:43.600 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, you tell him and I was like yeah, Gecko, no, hell, yeah,

0:50:49.200 --> 0:50:49.960
<v Speaker 6>this is this is.

0:50:49.920 --> 0:50:52.200
<v Speaker 5>I just thought I should share that with you. It

0:50:52.239 --> 0:50:53.080
<v Speaker 5>was a really good trip.

0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:55.839
<v Speaker 1>Well no, it's this is perfect because I was, well,

0:50:55.880 --> 0:50:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it's perfect you mentioned because I literally it's so perfectly

0:50:58.920 --> 0:51:04.840
<v Speaker 1>called in because I literally really this morning was like yesterday,

0:51:04.880 --> 0:51:06.440
<v Speaker 1>I was really high and I was like, I should

0:51:06.480 --> 0:51:08.160
<v Speaker 1>just go to Japan. I'm gonna die. Just go to

0:51:08.239 --> 0:51:10.719
<v Speaker 1>Japan for two weeks. I've never done this, to do

0:51:10.800 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 1>it and so It's funny that you just now are

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:14.640
<v Speaker 1>calling me right now, and as I'm on this kick

0:51:14.640 --> 0:51:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of trying to do it, because I was thinking two things.

0:51:16.560 --> 0:51:19.000
<v Speaker 1>I was thinking, I need to get a translator for

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:23.360
<v Speaker 1>doing street interviews, and also I kind of want to

0:51:23.360 --> 0:51:26.160
<v Speaker 1>do acid in Japan. If you know, I shouldn't be

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 1>talking about God. We'll talk, we'll talk on the we'll

0:51:30.040 --> 0:51:32.640
<v Speaker 1>talk about that. We'll go ahead, what we're gonna say.

0:51:32.880 --> 0:51:35.520
<v Speaker 5>Okay, we'll take good care of you in Japan?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay? Oh? Can I interview your husband too?

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<v Speaker 5>When you're here in Japan.

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:48.520
<v Speaker 1>He's at worker, you know, Okay, Okay, sick, sick? Okay,

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 1>this is cool, and I'm glad you call cut your hair?

0:51:51.920 --> 0:51:54.719
<v Speaker 1>Oh shit? Could he because I'm gonna probably could he? Like?

0:51:54.719 --> 0:51:56.560
<v Speaker 1>Can he make me look cool? Can he give me

0:51:56.560 --> 0:51:57.640
<v Speaker 1>like a mohawk or something?

0:51:58.120 --> 0:52:02.360
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, mohawk, skin fade, whatever you need?

0:52:03.239 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>Oh sick, Okay, cool. I'm very stoked about this.

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 5>I figured you wouldn't want a tattoo, but.

0:52:11.239 --> 0:52:15.120
<v Speaker 1>Maybe I don't know. I don't know. I've been I've

0:52:15.120 --> 0:52:19.759
<v Speaker 1>been fairly anti tattoo for most of my life. But

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:25.040
<v Speaker 1>maybe while I'm on acid in Japan, I'll open myself

0:52:25.120 --> 0:52:26.360
<v Speaker 1>up to new experiences.

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<v Speaker 5>Are you gonna be doing the interviews or is that

0:52:31.360 --> 0:52:31.959
<v Speaker 5>like oh.

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<v Speaker 1>No, oh no, no, no, no, I will I.

0:52:37.000 --> 0:52:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Uh.

0:52:37.960 --> 0:52:42.040
<v Speaker 1>Drugs and the gecko costume do not have never mixed. Well,

0:52:42.719 --> 0:52:46.640
<v Speaker 1>I like to keep those two things fairly separate. But no,

0:52:46.719 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm excited. I'm glad you called in. This is actually

0:52:48.480 --> 0:52:50.799
<v Speaker 1>part of them because I'm like, I literally last night

0:52:51.000 --> 0:52:53.680
<v Speaker 1>was fucking Stone and I was looking and I was like,

0:52:53.719 --> 0:52:55.440
<v Speaker 1>it's only this much money to go there. I can

0:52:55.520 --> 0:52:59.040
<v Speaker 1>do that. It'll be easy. Let's do it. We're on

0:53:00.200 --> 0:53:00.920
<v Speaker 1>geto's going to.

0:53:02.880 --> 0:53:04.520
<v Speaker 4>Yay Lyle forever.

0:53:05.920 --> 0:53:07.799
<v Speaker 1>Yes, send me a thing and we'll keep in touch

0:53:07.840 --> 0:53:08.360
<v Speaker 1>on I'll that, you know.

0:53:08.520 --> 0:53:12.200
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, when I d M you, my my usual name

0:53:12.239 --> 0:53:13.480
<v Speaker 5>has my name Keiko in.

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<v Speaker 1>It, So this is yeah, okay, perfect, perfect Keko. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there anything else you want to say to the people

0:53:20.160 --> 0:53:21.279
<v Speaker 1>of the computer before we go?

0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:24.120
<v Speaker 5>Oh, shout out to Bri.

0:53:25.719 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>Yes, shout out Tobris as well. Sabri is one of

0:53:28.120 --> 0:53:31.840
<v Speaker 1>the call screamers. She's a she is a mega homie,

0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:42.399
<v Speaker 1>very sweet individual. Shout out debris. Yeah, that's it, Kiko forever.

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:43.520
<v Speaker 1>I'll talk to you soon, dude.

0:53:44.719 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 5>Okay, I have a good night.

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>Damn that was that was genuine I that was genuinely

0:53:50.000 --> 0:53:50.320
<v Speaker 1>kissed me.

0:53:51.480 --> 0:53:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:53:52.800 --> 0:53:57.759
<v Speaker 1>I've been thinking about Japan. Uh, I have the you know,

0:53:57.960 --> 0:54:02.040
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna this is a this is cliche. I'm

0:54:02.040 --> 0:54:06.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna get cliche for a second. You know, the whole

0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:13.319
<v Speaker 1>there's a coffee table expression that's not even the word

0:54:14.400 --> 0:54:17.880
<v Speaker 1>someday is not a day type of shit was getting

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.160
<v Speaker 1>into my head, and I'm like, I've always wanted to

0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.839
<v Speaker 1>go to Asia but never been. I should just do it.

0:54:23.120 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I like going to foreign countries alone with my little

0:54:27.520 --> 0:54:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Gecko suitcase. I've done it a couple times. I did

0:54:35.080 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>it once. I did like a weekend in Guatemala alone

0:54:40.600 --> 0:54:43.799
<v Speaker 1>with my Gecko suit and did interviews there. That was

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:49.760
<v Speaker 1>fucking awesome. I did it in Mexico City that was great.

0:54:50.400 --> 0:54:53.960
<v Speaker 1>And now we're gonna do it in Japan and hopefully

0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:59.680
<v Speaker 1>do it everywhere in the world. Very exciting stuff, very

0:54:59.680 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>excited stuff. Hey, folks, it's Lyle. Lately I've been ending

0:55:04.000 --> 0:55:08.560
<v Speaker 1>my Sunday podcast with an excerpt from my street interview segments,

0:55:08.960 --> 0:55:11.759
<v Speaker 1>and this is a great one. It's a conversation I

0:55:11.880 --> 0:55:16.640
<v Speaker 1>had on Broadway Street in Nashville, Tennessee with a guy

0:55:16.719 --> 0:55:19.360
<v Speaker 1>who is just kind of getting his life back together.

0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:22.720
<v Speaker 1>And I really enjoyed having the talk. And I'm gonna

0:55:22.760 --> 0:55:25.800
<v Speaker 1>shut up and play it because I hate rambling intros.

0:55:25.840 --> 0:55:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to be here to explain the transition

0:55:31.120 --> 0:55:36.080
<v Speaker 1>between phone calls and real life. Soundy sounds Okay, let's

0:55:36.120 --> 0:55:38.800
<v Speaker 1>get into it. Cody.

0:55:38.960 --> 0:55:40.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, nice to meet you.

0:55:40.120 --> 0:55:42.200
<v Speaker 1>What's your deal, Cody? What's going on that? Man?

0:55:42.239 --> 0:55:43.880
<v Speaker 3>I'm just standing here. I'm gonna go to work. I

0:55:43.880 --> 0:55:45.040
<v Speaker 3>work at the hard Rock across the street.

0:55:45.080 --> 0:55:46.000
<v Speaker 1>You work at the hard Rock.

0:55:46.080 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm just enjoying the weather right now.

0:55:47.920 --> 0:55:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I feel like the hard Rock Cafe in Nashville must

0:55:51.640 --> 0:55:52.760
<v Speaker 1>be a gnarly place.

0:55:53.080 --> 0:55:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, today's my first day.

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.400
<v Speaker 1>Actually, this is your first day. You haven't even been

0:55:56.400 --> 0:56:00.360
<v Speaker 1>in there yet. Okay, what I maybe this is a

0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.799
<v Speaker 1>stupid question. What inspired you to work at the hard

0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Rock Cafe?

0:56:04.440 --> 0:56:06.840
<v Speaker 3>I really just I love I loved Nashville. I like

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 3>this the energy in the atmosphere, and I love to cook.

0:56:09.760 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 3>And if that's mixed up both over there, it's NonStop,

0:56:13.560 --> 0:56:15.520
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean? And I'm just really uh

0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:19.520
<v Speaker 3>anticipating what I can learn there and how I can

0:56:19.560 --> 0:56:23.280
<v Speaker 3>progress in that environment. There's a lot of people there.

0:56:23.320 --> 0:56:25.680
<v Speaker 1>Interesting, So you're you're talking about what you could learn there?

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:27.480
<v Speaker 1>What what what is it that you want to learn that.

0:56:28.280 --> 0:56:30.120
<v Speaker 3>Just more culinary skills because I love to cook. I

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:32.960
<v Speaker 3>love to present food to people. I like people the

0:56:33.000 --> 0:56:35.040
<v Speaker 3>smile on their face when they get it. And so

0:56:35.480 --> 0:56:37.440
<v Speaker 3>it's the closest thing to being a chef in there.

0:56:37.440 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 3>It's really cool.

0:56:38.320 --> 0:56:40.040
<v Speaker 1>Interesting are you Are you a chef or your waiter?

0:56:40.560 --> 0:56:43.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm a cook, your cook, I'm gonna cook. So we'll

0:56:43.680 --> 0:56:46.840
<v Speaker 1>get there. What what is like? So you you like

0:56:46.880 --> 0:56:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to cook? What is your magnum opus dish?

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:50.200
<v Speaker 3>What does that mean?

0:56:50.560 --> 0:56:54.160
<v Speaker 1>Like your your your signature dish? Probably checking af fredo,

0:56:54.400 --> 0:56:57.719
<v Speaker 1>checking out I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, definitely that's the

0:56:57.719 --> 0:57:01.600
<v Speaker 1>bomb dot com Okay, and gro cheese. I feel like,

0:57:02.000 --> 0:57:04.520
<v Speaker 1>are you gonna be cooking chicken altfreddo and girl cheese

0:57:04.560 --> 0:57:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and probably.

0:57:06.280 --> 0:57:09.120
<v Speaker 3>Not groal cheeses. Maybe chicken alfredo though definitely I have

0:57:09.200 --> 0:57:10.399
<v Speaker 3>to put my own little spin on it.

0:57:10.760 --> 0:57:12.920
<v Speaker 1>So you love Nashville and you want to contribute to

0:57:12.960 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 1>the to the sphere of the culture. Yes, definitely tell

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:17.600
<v Speaker 1>me what you love about Nashville.

0:57:17.760 --> 0:57:20.439
<v Speaker 3>Well, first of all the people, there's some really nice

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:23.160
<v Speaker 3>people here and just it's a really a good place

0:57:23.200 --> 0:57:25.440
<v Speaker 3>for opportunity. Man, It's a good place for you to grow.

0:57:26.080 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 3>And that's what I'm trying to do in life right now,

0:57:27.560 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 3>because I'm really just now like figuring what I like

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:30.680
<v Speaker 3>and who I am.

0:57:30.840 --> 0:57:35.880
<v Speaker 1>Interesting. Tell me, let's start from like before, when you

0:57:35.920 --> 0:57:38.800
<v Speaker 1>didn't know, I didn't know. It was like a struggle

0:57:38.880 --> 0:57:40.760
<v Speaker 1>to figure out who you are and what you like.

0:57:41.040 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because I was always high, because you're high. Yeah,

0:57:44.520 --> 0:57:46.720
<v Speaker 3>I was on drugs for a long time, bro, And

0:57:47.440 --> 0:57:49.200
<v Speaker 3>I'm just now getting off of those things, you know

0:57:49.240 --> 0:57:51.200
<v Speaker 3>what I mean, and really just discovering who I am

0:57:51.240 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 3>and what real happiness is because I thought I was happy,

0:57:53.360 --> 0:57:54.640
<v Speaker 3>but now far from it.

0:57:54.720 --> 0:57:56.320
<v Speaker 1>Was it difficult to wean yourself off the.

0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:58.800
<v Speaker 3>Drug very difficult. I've been. I've been using since I

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.640
<v Speaker 3>was like thirteen. I'm twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, and I'm

0:58:01.680 --> 0:58:04.360
<v Speaker 3>only I'm only like three or four months clean. He congratulations, man,

0:58:04.400 --> 0:58:05.280
<v Speaker 3>thank you, bro, thank you.

0:58:05.360 --> 0:58:07.800
<v Speaker 1>What what kinds of things are you doing in your

0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:10.520
<v Speaker 1>sobriety to like keep it up, to keep yourself in

0:58:10.520 --> 0:58:12.880
<v Speaker 1>good shape, to try to you know, stay off.

0:58:12.840 --> 0:58:16.440
<v Speaker 3>Drugs, staying positive at all times no matter what. Yeah,

0:58:16.480 --> 0:58:18.320
<v Speaker 3>that's the first thing I have to do every morning, bro,

0:58:18.640 --> 0:58:20.760
<v Speaker 3>is look at what my day is going to be,

0:58:20.840 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 3>like how I'm going to look at it, Because it's

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 3>all about my perspective, really it is. And willingness and

0:58:27.360 --> 0:58:31.160
<v Speaker 3>being open minded to suggestions and remaining teachable is the

0:58:31.200 --> 0:58:33.760
<v Speaker 3>biggest thing because I think I know everything, So yeah,

0:58:33.800 --> 0:58:37.000
<v Speaker 3>I have to remain teachable bro at all times.

0:58:37.560 --> 0:58:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's important to not feel as though you're like

0:58:39.520 --> 0:58:41.919
<v Speaker 1>done growing or like you know everything, because then you

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:45.400
<v Speaker 1>are opening yourself up to more of the universe's knowledge

0:58:45.400 --> 0:58:45.680
<v Speaker 1>and sit.

0:58:45.760 --> 0:58:46.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah definitely.

0:58:47.080 --> 0:58:49.640
<v Speaker 1>So uh okay, so you were using for a while.

0:58:49.800 --> 0:58:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Your three months sober again, congrats? What types of like

0:58:54.400 --> 0:58:57.080
<v Speaker 1>things are you learning about yourself in those three months.

0:58:59.680 --> 0:59:03.040
<v Speaker 3>I like a roller skate. I really like to roller skate, Bro,

0:59:03.080 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 3>I do. And I really want to have a hand

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:09.440
<v Speaker 3>in helping people, but not specifically help find missing people

0:59:10.000 --> 0:59:12.960
<v Speaker 3>because I don't know why. That's that's something that's got

0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 3>to be hard on a family, bro, is to not know.

0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:17.600
<v Speaker 1>You want to help find missing missing people? Yeah, like

0:59:17.640 --> 0:59:19.960
<v Speaker 1>go on like rogue missions to find like folks on

0:59:20.000 --> 0:59:21.040
<v Speaker 1>like milk cartons and stuff.

0:59:21.120 --> 0:59:23.080
<v Speaker 3>Yes, like I really want to do that, you know

0:59:23.120 --> 0:59:25.320
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying. Yeah, And it's I don't know why

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:27.120
<v Speaker 3>or how, it's just something I would like to do

0:59:27.240 --> 0:59:30.240
<v Speaker 3>because whether they're alive or whether they're dead, it's the

0:59:30.280 --> 0:59:33.120
<v Speaker 3>fact of knowing for their families that's got to be hard,

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 3>waking up every day wondering.

0:59:34.880 --> 0:59:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, have you ever like gone, have you like looked

0:59:37.840 --> 0:59:40.720
<v Speaker 1>for missing posters and like gone on your own sort

0:59:40.720 --> 0:59:43.640
<v Speaker 1>of like hunts for the folks?

0:59:43.800 --> 0:59:45.760
<v Speaker 3>No? Not, Yeah, I don't have the resources or the

0:59:45.800 --> 0:59:48.160
<v Speaker 3>time right now to do that, but it's something I

0:59:48.200 --> 0:59:48.760
<v Speaker 3>aspire to do.

0:59:48.880 --> 0:59:52.560
<v Speaker 1>Man, it really is anything else like a roller skating

0:59:52.680 --> 0:59:55.400
<v Speaker 1>looking for missing people? I both very niche like I

0:59:55.440 --> 0:59:56.680
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have guessed those things.

0:59:56.760 --> 0:59:56.920
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:59:57.000 --> 0:59:59.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm glad you're thinking outside of the box here. Yeah,

0:59:59.320 --> 1:00:02.640
<v Speaker 1>anything else that you're interested in developing for yourself.

1:00:06.080 --> 1:00:09.080
<v Speaker 3>I want to help, Okay, like people like the guy

1:00:09.120 --> 1:00:11.360
<v Speaker 3>that was just sitting here. I want to help people

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:13.640
<v Speaker 3>like that man that are in because I was that

1:00:13.720 --> 1:00:16.280
<v Speaker 3>guy before. I've been there. I've been on the streets

1:00:16.280 --> 1:00:18.320
<v Speaker 3>and not knowing where to go or no having no

1:00:18.360 --> 1:00:20.480
<v Speaker 3>one to talk to or no money or no resources.

1:00:20.960 --> 1:00:22.880
<v Speaker 3>So finally, I would like to get in a position

1:00:22.960 --> 1:00:25.320
<v Speaker 3>to help those people. I just want to help, Bro,

1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:25.920
<v Speaker 3>you know what I mean?

1:00:26.440 --> 1:00:28.600
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask you, you know, having been in that

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:30.960
<v Speaker 1>guy's position, having been on the streets with not a

1:00:31.040 --> 1:00:34.560
<v Speaker 1>lot of resources, like, what would be the most helpful

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:36.160
<v Speaker 1>thing for you in that moment?

1:00:36.280 --> 1:00:40.240
<v Speaker 3>Go to rehabit all day because they are going to

1:00:40.360 --> 1:00:42.560
<v Speaker 3>help you. You know. The first they're gonna teach you

1:00:42.600 --> 1:00:44.480
<v Speaker 3>how to help yourself, and then they're gonna help you

1:00:44.840 --> 1:00:48.520
<v Speaker 3>as far as shelter, food, transportation, everything you need to

1:00:48.520 --> 1:00:50.720
<v Speaker 3>become a better person. They are gonna give you that.

1:00:51.280 --> 1:00:52.800
<v Speaker 3>It's the best thing I've done ever.

1:00:53.080 --> 1:00:54.680
<v Speaker 1>See did you go to rehab three months ago?

1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:57.560
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I went to Samaritan Actually oh no shit, yeah,

1:00:57.560 --> 1:00:58.320
<v Speaker 3>oh so was it?

1:00:58.360 --> 1:01:00.720
<v Speaker 1>I assume it was like really hard at first. We're

1:01:00.760 --> 1:01:02.200
<v Speaker 1>going through a lot of like withdrawal and whatnot.

1:01:02.560 --> 1:01:05.320
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely because my DLC. Can I stand it on here?

1:01:05.360 --> 1:01:05.959
<v Speaker 1>You can tell what everyone?

1:01:06.000 --> 1:01:09.200
<v Speaker 3>Okay? Yeah, my DLC is fitanel heroin, which is deadly Bro.

1:01:09.320 --> 1:01:11.600
<v Speaker 3>It's and it took an OD for me to actually

1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:13.600
<v Speaker 3>wake up. It took me dying to wake up, which

1:01:13.600 --> 1:01:16.240
<v Speaker 3>is ironic, but Yeah, I did go through those withdrawals

1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:19.280
<v Speaker 3>and that's the hardest part. But it's like a weak work.

1:01:19.480 --> 1:01:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And you fucking made it through.

1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:25.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely, Yeah I did. And I don't know, it's

1:01:25.520 --> 1:01:29.760
<v Speaker 3>a blessing. I'm not really a big believer in God,

1:01:29.960 --> 1:01:31.680
<v Speaker 3>but I do have a higher power, you.

1:01:31.680 --> 1:01:33.080
<v Speaker 1>Know what I mean. It's fuck it because in the

1:01:33.280 --> 1:01:35.480
<v Speaker 1>like NA and AA and all that stuff they talk

1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:38.560
<v Speaker 1>about like submitting to a higher power, which doesn't necessarily

1:01:38.680 --> 1:01:43.600
<v Speaker 1>mean God. So in your own like definition of that,

1:01:43.640 --> 1:01:44.880
<v Speaker 1>what is your higher power?

1:01:45.640 --> 1:01:48.720
<v Speaker 3>Well, I'm I have a lot of pagan beliefs. I

1:01:48.760 --> 1:01:50.880
<v Speaker 3>have a lot of pagan beliefs and wicked beliefs, you

1:01:50.880 --> 1:01:54.320
<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, which is just it just really

1:01:54.360 --> 1:01:58.280
<v Speaker 3>just ties into the earth and nature and there. I

1:01:58.320 --> 1:02:00.640
<v Speaker 3>feel like there's a God of love. There's a god sadness.

1:02:00.680 --> 1:02:02.600
<v Speaker 3>There's a God of the sky, god of you know

1:02:02.640 --> 1:02:04.440
<v Speaker 3>what I'm saying, the trees, There's a god for everything.

1:02:05.240 --> 1:02:08.640
<v Speaker 3>So but my main, really my main high power is

1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:09.240
<v Speaker 3>the universe.

1:02:09.280 --> 1:02:09.400
<v Speaker 2>Bro.

1:02:09.960 --> 1:02:10.720
<v Speaker 3>Like the universe.

1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:11.680
<v Speaker 1>I want it.

1:02:11.760 --> 1:02:13.560
<v Speaker 3>There's a force that puts people in our path for

1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:15.240
<v Speaker 3>a reason. There's a force that makes us think a

1:02:15.240 --> 1:02:17.400
<v Speaker 3>certain way. There's a force that makes us go through this,

1:02:17.440 --> 1:02:19.000
<v Speaker 3>so we get ready for that even though if we

1:02:19.040 --> 1:02:19.480
<v Speaker 3>don't know it.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you deterministic in your beliefs? Do you believe that

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<v Speaker 1>things happen for a reason that is kind of predetermined

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<v Speaker 1>by forces outside of our control?

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<v Speaker 3>Especially my biggest thing is horoscopes. They're pre written, but

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<v Speaker 3>when I read mine, it's like it's already it just

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<v Speaker 3>it speaks on my situation and what I'm going through,

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<v Speaker 3>not physically, mentally, internally, and it's that's the weirdest thing

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<v Speaker 3>to me. Man, that's so weird.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your sign? PCEs?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so we're already very tuned in with the other

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<v Speaker 3>side type stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>And how long has that philosophy been a part of

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<v Speaker 1>your life?

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<v Speaker 3>For as long as I remember, bro, since I was

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<v Speaker 3>a kid, Like, I've always heard things different, seen different

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<v Speaker 3>things look different to me than other people. Or I've

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<v Speaker 3>always seen other sides of things that normal people didn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Really I'm not gonna say normal with that other people

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<v Speaker 3>didn't see. So I've always felt like I've had not

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<v Speaker 3>a gift, but like a third eye since before I

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<v Speaker 3>was even aware of it, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>It's always been open.

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<v Speaker 1>Has uh you know, following your horoscope and and and

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<v Speaker 1>sort of this philosophy of the determinism has it guided

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<v Speaker 1>you into positive places in your life? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, definitely. I gotta be work at two. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh what time is there right now?

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<v Speaker 3>On fire good? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, I'm really happy for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>You have a very bright smile on your face. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like you're doing a lot better.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I've just met you. I'm alive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, man, what uh? What are you the most excited

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<v Speaker 1>for it to work at? For the hard rock?

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<v Speaker 3>You want to be honest, please.

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<v Speaker 1>The girls seems to be a trend going on.

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<v Speaker 3>They're really cute girls there, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm not gonna let that determine from my main focus.

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<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be cool to make some new friends, get

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<v Speaker 3>some new associates because I've had to let all the

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<v Speaker 3>old ones go, So it's gonna be nice to meet

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<v Speaker 3>some new friends. Man. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I when you stopped using, did you have like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of relationships or you know, friendships or anything

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<v Speaker 1>that were like really tied in with the drug use

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<v Speaker 1>that you had to cut off.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, When I look back, the only thing me and

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<v Speaker 3>those people had in common was getting high.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so that's a very toxic. I didn't know then,

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<v Speaker 3>but I know now that's very toxic. And one thing

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<v Speaker 3>that I had to quit doing was talking to girls,

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<v Speaker 3>and that's my biggest distraction and my biggest downfall.

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<v Speaker 1>Every Just why was it a distracting thing for you?

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<v Speaker 3>Because I put more time into them than I do

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<v Speaker 3>me sure they become a higher power.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so that's not good. That's interesting. We talked at

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<v Speaker 1>the very beginning of this to a girl who was

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<v Speaker 1>just getting a divorce and she was had a similar

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<v Speaker 1>thing where she was like, I'm putting all my energy

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<v Speaker 1>into this guy, and I'm not key saving anything for myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. So I feel like it's a common thing

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<v Speaker 1>with ye training.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So to recap roller skating, looking for missing folks ship,

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<v Speaker 1>What was the third thing you had? A good? Third thing?

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<v Speaker 1>I want to remember.

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<v Speaker 3>What was that?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, you're picking good niches?

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<v Speaker 3>Was it hard rock? Was it cooking cooking hard rock?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm oh, I know. I'm very glad to seem

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<v Speaker 1>as though you have a lot of very exciting things

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<v Speaker 1>ahead of you doccupy your life and your time that

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<v Speaker 1>are not only gonna be fun for you, but are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna help other people?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Oh I love to take pictures in paint. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I didn't know that before, but I'm really good

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<v Speaker 3>at those things.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a before you go? Do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to plug anything you have an Instagram or you.

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<v Speaker 3>Make art or anything that don't have any social media.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't have any social media, you must be much

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<v Speaker 1>more calm.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's this distracting. Of course it's distracting. And of

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<v Speaker 3>course I find myself always comparing my life to social media.

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<v Speaker 3>So oh, I had to let it go.

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<v Speaker 1>Has getting off of like hard drugs sort of helped

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<v Speaker 1>you with your relationship to other vices such as like

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<v Speaker 1>talking to girls, social media thing like that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's made me very much more aware of these

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<v Speaker 3>problems so I can start doing something about them. But

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<v Speaker 3>you want to know my biggest my biggest obstacle, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my ego interesting myself? Yeah, how in what ways?

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<v Speaker 1>How do you combat that? How do you in your

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<v Speaker 1>experience for a better relationship with your ego?

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<v Speaker 3>Just being aware of it, Yeah, and knowing when I'm

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<v Speaker 3>being egotistical and chill because I miss a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>messages because my ego is in the way. So being

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<v Speaker 3>aware of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that goes back to what you were talking about

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<v Speaker 1>earlier about like wanting to be more teachable and the

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<v Speaker 1>bigger your ego is. It's blocks all that shit clo.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to get out of here. Yeah, I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say to the people of the computer before you go.

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<v Speaker 3>No, man, just just don't give up. Just don't. It

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<v Speaker 3>is possible. Don't ever let anyone tell you that you can't,

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<v Speaker 3>because you can. You can.

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<v Speaker 1>What's your name again, dude?

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<v Speaker 3>Cody? Cody, nice to meet you, got nice.

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<v Speaker 1>To be You're too many night.

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<v Speaker 3>Never be get ghost doing his right. He was teaching

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<v Speaker 3>you to housing your.

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<v Speaker 1>Life, but he's not ready.

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<v Speaker 3>An expert

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<v Speaker 2>H