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Speaker 1: to think about stuff. All right, let's get into the episode. Hello,

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Speaker 1: Hello James.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sir, how are you doing while.

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm here right now. I'm alive. I have two legs.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty uh, It's all I ever need.

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Speaker 2: The getos have two legs or four legs? There's a

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Speaker 1: So, James, what is it that you wanted to talk

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Speaker 1: about today?

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Speaker 2: So when I was two, on my second birthday, I

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Speaker 2: was kidnapped in Baghdad, Iraq, And basically I was with

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Speaker 2: me and then they had me for about nine days.

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Speaker 2: And so about the third day they got a hold

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Speaker 2: and that converted like from whatever currency like be not

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Speaker 2: started panicking because we weren't wealthy. We barely had enough

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Speaker 2: And and whoever shows up is going to die and

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Speaker 2: So the story with a seventeen year old kid is that, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Basically what they had told this kid and thisally what

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Speaker 1: So he was kidnapped to work for the kidnappers on

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Speaker 2: So it's like it's a fuck fest.

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Speaker 2: And so basically what the kidnappers had told this kid

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so basically the kid ended up meeting up

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Speaker 2: all this knowledge that I just told you, my dad

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Speaker 2: and then so they got up. They kept the talks

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Speaker 2: And then before you get the money, he's like, wait,

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Speaker 2: As he was like before, he's like, wait, where's my kid?

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Speaker 2: And so my dad was like, I guess I can't

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Speaker 2: There's not much I can do. I have to trust this,

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Speaker 2: what was what happened is that in Iraq there's these banks.

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Speaker 1: With holy ship. The kid that your dad met up with, yes, then.

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Speaker 1: Day and who who? So so okay, so hold on,

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Speaker 1: so so the seventeen year old kid that met up

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Speaker 1: did was it? The kidnappers made good on their promise

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Speaker 2: Yes, So thankfully they had an ounce of empathy and

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Speaker 2: unless you're gonna fucking raise me to be this fucking

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Speaker 2: not really much in keeping a two year old, like

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Speaker 2: to unless they could have killed me obviously, but I

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Speaker 1: So you were found so who? Well, okay, so so

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Speaker 1: you were found outside of a carnival.

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Speaker 2: You say, I was found on the door. So there's

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Speaker 1: Who found you?

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Speaker 2: Because they all they told them was that your kid

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Speaker 3: But that was not.

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Speaker 2: He When he was late, somebody had to knuck into

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I was saying in my head. I

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Speaker 1: Yes, it says here that your your well, it says

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Speaker 2: College exactly, like like scholarship money, and okay.

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Speaker 1: Because I let me, let me, let me, let me,

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Speaker 2: Some ran into a couple issues that my living situation

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Speaker 2: And I was like, cool, fuck it, that sounds like

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Speaker 2: Exactly and the community was like two hours and with

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I had a job at Apple. I was working

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Speaker 2: No Apple store. I was working inside of an Apple store.

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Speaker 2: I work at this well, I just about a week

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Speaker 1: Computer science? Beautiful? What do you want to do with

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Speaker 2: Or you talk in future?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the future. I don't not neither of

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Speaker 1: M So, so okay, So back to your your central dilemma.

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Speaker 1: Am I a bad person if I milk the story?

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Speaker 1: First of all, I mean, no, no, you're not. Second

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Speaker 1: I want to get into your mind and your perspective

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Speaker 2: Because I don't because sometimes when I tell people it,

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Speaker 2: I deserve this. But that's not how it is. It's

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Speaker 2: just it's that story has allowed and like like I said,

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Speaker 2: People think that I'm doing it for money or this

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Speaker 1: Well, let's look at a couple of things. First of all,

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Speaker 2: Well we yes, I mean the combined income between my

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Speaker 1: Don't you don't have to give me your number, but

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Speaker 1: They exist to try to give opportunities to people who

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Speaker 1: the story proves that you know, with this money that

439
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 1: has been allocated by people to be given to folks

440
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 1: who again came from non ideal circumstances and are now

441
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:50,560
Speaker 1: trying to make something great of their lives, as you

442
00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,640
Speaker 1: are trying to do by going and pursuing a higher education,

443
00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,639
Speaker 1: you are, with this story proving to people that you

444
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,880
Speaker 1: are indeed deserving of this money. In no way, shape

445
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,200
Speaker 1: or form does that make you a bad person. Why

446
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: would that make you a bad person.

447
00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: It's just some people just like like and some people

448
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,720
Speaker 2: like you tell the story and it sounds it's it's

449
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: it's it's it's like okay, like, but some people are like,

450
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 2: how do you remember that? Well, obviously I have parents

451
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:23,720
Speaker 2: that tell me and and and and and keep in mind,

452
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:28,160
Speaker 2: my mother didn't know I was kidnapped until nine hours later.

453
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,200
Speaker 2: They hit it from her for nine hours. They told

454
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:31,120
Speaker 2: her I was sleeping over.

455
00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: But James, James, what okay are you? Are you just

456
00:25:38,920 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 1: afraid that people are going to think that? What are

457
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 1: you afraid of?

458
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm just I don't want to like like like and

459
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 2: this is like a personal fucking flaw, I guess, but yeah,

460
00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm I don't want people to think that I'm fucking

461
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: lying or taking advantage or or or or doing this

462
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: just to fucking get the money and bullshit this story

463
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 2: and that's not what it.

464
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: Okay, But James, James, James, you're not lying. This did

465
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,960
Speaker 1: happen to you?

466
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 2: Now you asked me, yes.

467
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, No, I'm not asking. I'm telling you. No,

468
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 1: I know, I don't. I don't know. I fully believe,

469
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:22,160
Speaker 1: there's there's no bone in my body believes that you're

470
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 1: alying to mar right now, I'm telling you this. I'm

471
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 1: stating the facts here. This did happen to you, Okay.

472
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you would lie about this. And you, James,

473
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: know that this happened to you, okay, right, you don't

474
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: you believe your parents? You know that this is your story.

475
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: This is your story. You know it? Correct? Yes, so

476
00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 1: this is your story. It happened. You know what happened.

477
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: You know the truth. That's all that fucking matters who,

478
00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:00,119
Speaker 1: any other tertiary party, any of your friends, anyone listening

479
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: to this, any any other party that thinks to your life.

480
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, James, because you know the truth. You

481
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: know that you came from an unideal circumstance and you

482
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: are now trying to as you put in your own words,

483
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: you were saying, going to college for me is an

484
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: opportunity because I was kidnapped and I almost fucking died

485
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: multiple times, and I now have an opportunity to do

486
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 1: something really worthwhile with my life. And that's what this

487
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,960
Speaker 1: fucking scholarship money that's out there is for James. And

488
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:42,959
Speaker 1: nobody needs to know that or be assured of that

489
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: other than you. So I don't really care what your

490
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: friends think or what anyone else thinks except for you.

491
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 1: And so what I think you gotta do is really

492
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: internalize the fact that this is your story. This is

493
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: the truth is that's what happened to you, and you

494
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: do deserve to be able to go to college, and

495
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: you do deserve these opportunities, and anyone else's perspective on

496
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,160
Speaker 1: that really does not matter except I guess the people

497
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: who are giving you the money.

498
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: And yeah, I guess the problem. I guess it comes

499
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:23,399
Speaker 2: back to me worrying about other people's things. But like

500
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:24,360
Speaker 2: you said, it.

501
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,200
Speaker 1: Does, this is coming back to, This is coming back

502
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 1: to like this is a classic thing. This is like

503
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: a universal thing of caring about other people's opinions.

504
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 2: You gotta get over in situations that their opinion doesn't matter.

505
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. You know, you know what you're telling.

506
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: You know you're telling the truth. That's all that matters.

507
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 1: So other people's opinions that it just doesn't matter, James,

508
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 1: So please write your essay. Please tell the story. Tell

509
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: tell those people in the college admissions, in the scholarship essays,

510
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 1: Tell them the story exactly how you told it to us,

511
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: because I was compelled by it, you know, I mean,

512
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: this is this is a trait. It's a gnarly fucking story.

513
00:29:02,440 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's a gnarly fucking story. That's why you

514
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 1: called in with it. It's a gnarly story. And you

515
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: and and and it's not just a gnarly story, it's

516
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,440
Speaker 1: there's a thing behind it, which again you explained, which

517
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: is I really feel strongly. I'll repeat this. I really

518
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: feel strongly that I was given a second chance in life,

519
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: and you believe that. You told us that, and I

520
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: think you believe it, and I think it's true. You

521
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 1: believe strongly that you have were given a second chance

522
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 1: in life, and you want to make the most out

523
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: of that second chance. And that's your truth and that's

524
00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: all that matter. Anyone else's opinion on that doesn't matter.

525
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: That's your thing. So go forward with that, Let that

526
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: take you wherever you want it to, and on the

527
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 1: way to don't give a fuck what stup anyone thinks

528
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 1: about it, because you know it be true.

529
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,200
Speaker 2: That feels I'm gonna that that that that feels like

530
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: from a like like it just feels good to hear,

531
00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 2: like like I guess I just needed to not sound

532
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 2: like a bitch, but I need to reassurance like like

533
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 2: it's like like like I and I genuinely do believe

534
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 2: like everything that I do in my life, like from

535
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 2: when I was able to contextualize and figure out what

536
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 2: I wanted to do in my life, I figured out

537
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: that everything that I do now is a second opportunity

538
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: to do it, because that's that's how it is it's

539
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: I've been given the second opportunity to do whatever I

540
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,959
Speaker 2: want in my life and to live at how I

541
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 2: want to and because I'm choosing how to do it,

542
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: and even with like even with my I want a

543
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 2: major in in computer science. But a majority of that

544
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: comes from I've done a little bit of coding and stuff,

545
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: but a majority comes out of that comes from the money.

546
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 2: I'm not even gonna lie it comes from the money

547
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 2: because I want to be able to to like support

548
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,720
Speaker 2: my family and my brothers and my sister and my

549
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 2: and my parents. But also I have this. I have this,

550
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,360
Speaker 2: I have this passion for social work and allowing people because,

551
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 2: like I said, when we came here, we came to

552
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 2: a church, and I want to be able to give

553
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 2: back to the same people that allowed me to be

554
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: here today and to be able to talk to you.

555
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: And I didn't do I didn't even know how to

556
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: speak a word a lick of the English before I

557
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,680
Speaker 2: came here. The first week that I came here, we date.

558
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 2: She handed me this is a truth, so I remember this.

559
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 2: She handed me a doctor pepper for dinner at Dan

560
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: hitting me at doctor pepper. I cracked it open and

561
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,160
Speaker 2: I drank it, and it was like the most disgusting

562
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: thing that had adver tasted, because I never had soda

563
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: before that, and and I like and I didn't want

564
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 2: to be rude, and I also didn't know how to

565
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: speak English, and so I just down the whole doctor Pepper,

566
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:53,719
Speaker 2: and she thought that I enjoyed it so much that

567
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:55,520
Speaker 2: she gave me another one. And I had to look

568
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 2: at her, and I didn't know how to be English,

569
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 2: and I just shook my head and I stuck my

570
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: tongue out like like like in a sign of disgust.

571
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 2: And I've come from doing that, from using facial expressions

572
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 2: to describe how I feel, to be able to write

573
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 2: an essay on my life and use it to myself.

574
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 1: Up. Yes, you've you've h James. You've had a beautiful

575
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: journey in your life, and this journey has inspired and

576
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: everything you're talking to me about right now. You want

577
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: to go into social work to help people in the

578
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: same way that you were helped. You want to go

579
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: into coding so that you can afford to support your family.

580
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: You have altruistic passions and motivations, and I just need

581
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: you to know, these are these, these are these truths

582
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 1: that you have, these motivations you have, you know, you

583
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: know where they came from, you know where they will

584
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: guide you. And that's all that matters. And nobody can

585
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: everyone in the fucking world could believe that that you're

586
00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,239
Speaker 1: not telling the truth. Whatever it is, nobody, nobody can

587
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: take it away from you. Not nobody can take that

588
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 1: away from you, James, So just keep following that and

589
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: stop giving a fuck about other people's perspectives on your

590
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 1: internal life motivations and your truths. Well, can you do

591
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: that for me?

592
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: Thank you? Thank you? I can. I'm gonna do it,

593
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 2: not only do it for you, but I'm gonna do

594
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 2: it for myself. How about that.

595
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: Please don't do it for me, do it for yourself.

596
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: I will. I will. It's just yeah, I don't want

597
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 2: to keep you here much longer. But it's uh, it's

598
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 2: it's also like there's a like, like a very strong

599
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: part of me, like I said, give back to my

600
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 2: parents because of where we came from, and we literally

601
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: lived I should not we lived in a box like

602
00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 2: it was. It was basically a closet. Lived in a

603
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 2: closet that had two mattresses on the floor, had a

604
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,680
Speaker 2: kitchen and I had to hear and that was it.

605
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: Thank you have you get a door? Thankful for the door.

606
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: So the weather got shitty and there's a lotting, but

607
00:34:02,120 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: we that was that was a serious by the way, Well.

608
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: Well listen, James, is is there you know? Look man,

609
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad that you I hope, and it

610
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 1: sounds like we have gotten somewhere in this conversation. I

611
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 1: really hope we have because I think that you deserve

612
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 1: to feel confident in your truths and not let random

613
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,359
Speaker 1: fucking people, you know, mess with that confidence because it's

614
00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: the really powerful thing that you've got. I hope you

615
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: come away from this conversation really believing that is there

616
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:47,600
Speaker 1: any other aspect of of this or of your story,

617
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: or of your future or anything that you kind of

618
00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 1: feel like we didn't cover before before we do that.

619
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:55,480
Speaker 1: I don't know.

620
00:34:55,760 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 2: I think I think it's for like not too.

621
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: I don't know.

622
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to sound too but I think it

623
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 2: gives a It gives a perspective onto of people. There's

624
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 2: a lot of people that are that are like me,

625
00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 2: not like that they've kidnapped, they that they've come from

626
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 2: from from kind of nothing. The work worked, their family

627
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: has worked, and they've worked so hard to achieve and

628
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,920
Speaker 2: and and they kind of they kind of get undermine

629
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,240
Speaker 2: and they don't they don't get the attention they deserve,

630
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,880
Speaker 2: and they don't get the they don't get acknowledged for

631
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 2: how hard they fucking work, and and they should and

632
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 2: it sucks because not everybody's gonna do it.

633
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: But James, real quick, what's what's what's your future goal?

634
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,280
Speaker 1: You want to get into programming?

635
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: You said, yeah, currently, I have this internship at the

636
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 2: A cybersecurity, saying, so, cybersecurity is kind of the road

637
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 2: that I want to take in because most comfortable with it.

638
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 2: So cybersecurity, Well.

639
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: Well, listen to James. I I I I want to say,

640
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you calling in and sharing your story

641
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 1: with us. It's a gnarly story. I don't and I

642
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: really hope I'm glad that it sounds like you're coming

643
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: away from this conversation feeling more confident in your truths.

644
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:19,480
Speaker 1: I hope that that stays like that as you write

645
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: your essays and do your things and follow your path.

646
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: And thank you for calling. Man, Is there anything else

647
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: you want to say to the people of the computer

648
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: before we go.

649
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 2: To the people computed. Take it from me, take it

650
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,319
Speaker 2: from a Wilder said, do what the fuck you want.

651
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,320
Speaker 2: Do it for yourself and your family. If that's something

652
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: that you that you work for. Be happy. Do what

653
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 2: makes you happy. Surround yourself with people that make you

654
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 2: happy and that push you to be better. Do you

655
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 2: not surround yourself people that hold you back and that

656
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 2: are selfish. I think that the devil in this world

657
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:57,560
Speaker 2: is being selfish. Be selfless, help others around you, allow

658
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,319
Speaker 2: people to help you. Don't afraid to reach out sad.

659
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 2: Tell people you're sad. It's okay. There's nothing wrong with

660
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,720
Speaker 2: being sad, which I'll do with therapist. I go to therapy.

661
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: There's nothing wrong with say it's one of the best

662
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 2: decisions I made for myself. There's so many things outside

663
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,759
Speaker 2: that can that can help you. You're not alone no

664
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: matter what. And yeah, man, thank you for taking the time.

665
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 2: This has been This has been amazing. It went literally

666
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 2: ten times better than I than I thought you could have.

667
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 1: Man, But beautiful, beautiful. I'm really happy to hear that. Man.

668
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: I appreciate you sharing this all with us, and I'll

669
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: talk to you again soon. Man, good luck with those essays.

670
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: All right, all right, man, I'll call you back if

671
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: I get if I get into the colleges I'm applying.

672
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 1: Please do give us a little updick, give us a

673
00:37:40,719 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: little up to have a good have aggressed that.

674
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 2: James, all right, you as well, Thank you.

675
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: I liked that call a lot. I like that call

676
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 1: a lot. That call touched on a lot of themes

677
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 1: that I'm very interested in. James has this story and

678
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:06,959
Speaker 1: he's like concerned with other people's saying to him, whether

679
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:08,960
Speaker 1: or not. I don't even I didn't even get from

680
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 1: him if this is like a thing that people have

681
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 1: been saying to him, or if this is a thing

682
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,399
Speaker 1: that he thinks other people think about him. But both

683
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: of them are are are irrelevant that he's in his

684
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 1: mind like, oh, people are gonna think I'm lying. People

685
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: are gonna think I'm you know, just milking it for attention.

686
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: People are going to think this and that and the

687
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: other thing. But it's like, you know, let's go back

688
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 1: to his truth, right, which is this happened to me.

689
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: I was there. I was in fucking Syria and Iraq.

690
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:40,960
Speaker 1: My family was there.

691
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: This.

692
00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: I know this. I don't need other people's validation on

693
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:50,400
Speaker 1: this to be true, because I know it happened. I

694
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: know what I've been through. I went, I came to America,

695
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,800
Speaker 1: I didn't speak any English. I had to go from

696
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: sticking my tongue out to now being able to have

697
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: fluent conversation. Was hard. I was there and I know it,

698
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: and it was hard. And I now want to take

699
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: that and go back and like try to help other

700
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: folks who we are dealing with similar things in the

701
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: way that you know, this church helped me when I

702
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: was dealing with some shit. And this is a beautiful,

703
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: powerful thing, And I just hope he realizes it and

704
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: realizes the strength of it, that it's so strong that

705
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: a guy on the internet typing fake and is not anything,

706
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: it's just not worth paying attention to. He's got a

707
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 1: stronger thing to be rattled by that, and I hope

708
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: he follows it, and I hope it takes him to

709
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: wonderful places. That was a good call. I like that.

710
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: Thank you for sharing. James, Keiko. Hi, what's what's going on?

711
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 5: Hanging out?

712
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 1: Keiko? It says here that you you are in Tokyo

713
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 1: right now? Yeah? Wait, Lyle, Yes, this is.

714
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:17,840
Speaker 5: Me Wow, your voice sounds so different.

715
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:21,879
Speaker 1: How does it normally sound?

716
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 4: Well?

717
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,200
Speaker 5: I wish I had perfect pitch and I could tell

718
00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 5: you exactly, but it's like a different tongue.

719
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: Are you Can you do an impression of me? Is

720
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: that what you're trying to do right now?

721
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: Yeah?

722
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:41,160
Speaker 1: Keek, are you there?

723
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,280
Speaker 5: I can't do an impression.

724
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

725
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: I don't think I can do an impression of you

726
00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 1: either without sounding mean. Oh man, Keiko, what's going on? Kiko?

727
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: I picked your call because you're are you? Are you

728
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,239
Speaker 1: just in Tokyo or do you? Do you live there?

729
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 1: Were you born there? What's what's the deal?

730
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 5: I was born here and I live here now. Uh,

731
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: but I've spent half of my life in America?

732
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: What part of America?

733
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 5: Washington State?

734
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 1: That's cool? Man? I am you know I'm playing. I'm

735
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: going to take a trip to Japan either in December?

736
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: Did I say that already? When? Did I say that? Well?

737
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 5: I told you in chat to come to Tokyo like

738
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 5: two days ago or something, and you said you were

739
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 5: thinking about coming in two months, and I really want.

740
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 2: To do you around.

741
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm thinking about Oh shit, you know what? Actually, okay,

742
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,760
Speaker 1: let's put a pin in this Keiko, because I actually

743
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 1: do need somebody because I'm going to do street interviews

744
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:55,320
Speaker 1: in Japan and I need someone for you to translate

745
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 1: for me. Wow.

746
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 5: Perfect, Oh my Japanese is better than my English.

747
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 1: Perfect perfect? Okay, sweet No, let's put a pin in

748
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: that message me on Discord or Instagram or something and

749
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: we'll keep in touch.

750
00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,240
Speaker 5: For I'll do Instagram. I don't know how to do discord.

751
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: Okay, perfect. I was going to say, uh sh I was.

752
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about when I go there. I'm trying to

753
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: decide whether or not I want to do a show,

754
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 1: because like I'm on this kick now, like I want

755
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: to go internationally and do shows. I don't I don't know.

756
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,960
Speaker 1: I know there's like there's this place called the Tokyo

757
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 1: Comedy Bar that I think does stuff, But I don't

758
00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: know if I have enough people who listen to me

759
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: in Japan.

760
00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 5: Oh, for sure you do. I was talking about like

761
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:49,479
Speaker 5: trying to call in and just like a random friend

762
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 5: was like, oh my god, you listen just.

763
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 2: Like Lyle two.

764
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: Really yeah.

765
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 5: But I feel like it's all like non Japanese people

766
00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: because Japanese people don't want to speak English.

767
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: Well, does she live in does your friend live? Does

768
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 1: your friend live in Tokyo?

769
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 5: Yeah?

770
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: Okay, Well I figured it wouldn't be Japanese. Okay. I

771
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: figured it would be like, I guess, expats or do

772
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people in Japan speak English.

773
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 5: Japanese people don't, like I'm married to a guy who's

774
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 5: Japanese and doesn't speak English.

775
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: Interesting? Interesting? Yeah, how did you meet him?

776
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 5: We actually met on Tinder, but it's really magical and

777
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,280
Speaker 5: he's yeah, he's my soulmate.

778
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,480
Speaker 1: So what is can I ask? What is Japanese Tinder? Like?

779
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 5: Just as bad as Tinder anywhere, I think? Okay, but

780
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:56,120
Speaker 5: I mean, I guess I never really dated in Japan

781
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 5: too much. But it's like, I don't know, it all

782
00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 5: feels very sticky and gross.

783
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,120
Speaker 1: Did you meet him on Japanese tender?

784
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 5: Yeah?

785
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: But did you get lucky? And it just didn't?

786
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: No?

787
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:10,680
Speaker 1: Sorry, go ahead, I interrupted you.

788
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, no, no, yeah. We were both about to

789
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 5: fucking like do et our accounts because it was so

790
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 5: like cringey. But yeah, just and like it was at

791
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,680
Speaker 5: the point where I stopped giving a ship and so

792
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 5: I was just like messaging random people like stupid things.

793
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 5: But then he like came back with the same energy.

794
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 5: So we met up in shibu yah h and turned

795
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 5: out so when we first saw each other, we both

796
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 5: had a shaved head and yellow pants on and where

797
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 5: the exact same height, really, and I was just like, yeah,

798
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,399
Speaker 5: what the heck? Yeah?

799
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:53,319
Speaker 1: Did you take that as a sign of.

800
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 5: Some kind kind of but not as much as like

801
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 5: I feel like someone else might think. I mean, like,

802
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 5: what a coincidence. But I didn't think too much about it.

803
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: How long have you guys, you said, he's your husband?

804
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 5: Mm hm, now he is.

805
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:11,240
Speaker 1: How long have you guys been.

806
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 5: Married for for a year?

807
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: For a year now, congratulations?

808
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 2: Man?

809
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: How long have you been like dating in general?

810
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 5: Three years?

811
00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, that's awesome, that's awesome.

812
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:24,839
Speaker 2: It's cool.

813
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: Do Now I'm wondering. I'm I'm probably gonna go in

814
00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 1: Japan like December January, and I'm gonna do I'm want

815
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 1: to do these streen interviews. Would love your help to translate.

816
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm wondering. Wait, I hold that thought because I want

817
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: to ask you what you were gonna say. But I'm wondering, like,

818
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 1: how in like public in Japan, how willing are people

819
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: to like interact with nonsense? Like if I set up

820
00:45:57,800 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: my chairs and my sign and stuff and invite people

821
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:04,160
Speaker 1: to come sit down, Like, are are just most people

822
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: going to gloss over me? Or do you think we'll

823
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: be able to get folks to sit down?

824
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 5: You hit up the right places and there'll be plenty

825
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 5: of people who will want to hang out.

826
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 6: Okay, the right place you're yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel

827
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 6: like I mean, Japanese people love that sort of like

828
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 6: TV show like interview, interesting dynamic, so I think, and

829
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,360
Speaker 6: there's some like late night shows that do that.

830
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,239
Speaker 5: It's really silly. So it might also be like the

831
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 5: place and time of day.

832
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,280
Speaker 1: Well, okay, there was a thought that you were holding

833
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: me you were going to tell.

834
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 5: Me, oh, well you should if as soon as you

835
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 5: know when you're coming, I can take as much time

836
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 5: off as I need because I'm like kind of you know,

837
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 5: I have a flexible schedule.

838
00:46:52,120 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 1: What do you what do you do for work?

839
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:56,760
Speaker 5: I I tattoo.

840
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: As like a Japanese tattoo place. Yeah, I guess that

841
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 1: was a ship question of me because if you live

842
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,640
Speaker 1: in Japan and you are a tattoo artist, you would

843
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,800
Speaker 1: be at a Japanese.

844
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:15,760
Speaker 6: Tattoo It's not like the traditional like hand done Japanese style.

845
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:18,319
Speaker 1: What what style is it?

846
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 5: Mmmmmm Everyone at the studio does sort of like like

847
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:31,439
Speaker 5: more contemporary, like Japanese like stuff, and then I kind

848
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:35,839
Speaker 5: of stick out because I do like scribbly, rainbow, sparkly

849
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 5: weird stuff.

850
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,680
Speaker 1: You know, it's good to it's good to be different,

851
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: makes you stand out.

852
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's pretty cool.

853
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,759
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this again. Sorry, I'm making

854
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: you into my travel agent, but.

855
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 5: No, I'm so happy to do that.

856
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,399
Speaker 1: I I definitely go. I'm definitely going to Tokyo. I'm

857
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,760
Speaker 1: definitely gonna go to Kyoto. I've heard cool things about Kyoto.

858
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go for two weeks. Is there anywhere else

859
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: in the two weeks that you think I should hit

860
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: besides Tokyo and Kyoto? Osaka, Okay, Osaka could be cool.

861
00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:16,720
Speaker 5: Osaka is like the comedy capital of Japan.

862
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: The comedy for like Japanese comedy or American comedy.

863
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 5: It's for Japanese comedy. Like a question, there's a specific

864
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 5: die like Japanese dialect. I guess that's from Osaka, and

865
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 5: like pretty much all comedians are from Osaka and they

866
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 5: have that distinct dialect. So it's like comedy equals Osaka.

867
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm going to make an Instagram I did this recently

868
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: with just Europe in general. I'm gonna make an Instagram

869
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,440
Speaker 1: story and I'm gonna be like, who in who currently

870
00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: lives in Japan and would come see me if I

871
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,280
Speaker 1: did a show there, and if I get like ten people,

872
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 1: I mean.

873
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:01,800
Speaker 5: Oh, okay, I think Japan small enough that everyone would

874
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:03,560
Speaker 5: like come to you.

875
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess I just don't know if

876
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: I have enough. Well, I'll find you know if I

877
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,719
Speaker 1: do it. If I do it and you and your

878
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 1: friends show up and I just spend the whole thing

879
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 1: interviewing you guys, that would be a win win.

880
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 5: I could die hardily.

881
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 1: Okay, real quick before we go, it's us here that

882
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: you had an acid trip recently and that you what

883
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,000
Speaker 1: what what was going on in this acid trip? Mmm?

884
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 5: So it was my birthday and my husband and I

885
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 5: were taking acid in the mountains and I just I

886
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:51,399
Speaker 5: don't know where it came from, but I was just

887
00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:55,239
Speaker 5: like the gecko, the gecko, I really want to talk

888
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 5: to the gecko, and I mean he doesn't speak English.

889
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 5: That was like Frank you as gecko in Japanese.

890
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: But by the way, what is is it? Is it

891
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:06,879
Speaker 1: it's Yamori right or something like that.

892
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 5: Oh, it's YAMMOI. Oh, I don't know. There's like so

893
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:13,520
Speaker 5: there's I kept saying tokage, but that might be lizard.

894
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 5: I don't know specifics tokage, but we do have a

895
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 5: yammody living in our post uh our mail box.

896
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: Okay.

897
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 4: Acid, Yeah, I was on acid and I was just

898
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 4: like talking about you. I was just like, I've been

899
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 4: really wanting to talk to the Geck and I know

900
00:50:35,880 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 4: it's going to happen, and I'm going to tell him

901
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:42,280
Speaker 4: I'm in Japan and I do tattoos.

902
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,440
Speaker 5: And he was just like really encouraging and he's like.

903
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:49,200
Speaker 6: Yeah, you tell him and I was like yeah, Gecko, no, hell, yeah,

904
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 6: this is this is.

905
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 5: I just thought I should share that with you. It

906
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 5: was a really good trip.

907
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,839
Speaker 1: Well no, it's this is perfect because I was, well,

908
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,920
Speaker 1: it's perfect you mentioned because I literally it's so perfectly

909
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 1: called in because I literally really this morning was like yesterday,

910
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 1: I was really high and I was like, I should

911
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 1: just go to Japan. I'm gonna die. Just go to

912
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:10,719
Speaker 1: Japan for two weeks. I've never done this, to do

913
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: it and so It's funny that you just now are

914
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:14,640
Speaker 1: calling me right now, and as I'm on this kick

915
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,520
Speaker 1: of trying to do it, because I was thinking two things.

916
00:51:16,560 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I need to get a translator for

917
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: doing street interviews, and also I kind of want to

918
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 1: do acid in Japan. If you know, I shouldn't be

919
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: talking about God. We'll talk, we'll talk on the we'll

920
00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,640
Speaker 1: talk about that. We'll go ahead, what we're gonna say.

921
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 5: Okay, we'll take good care of you in Japan?

922
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 1: Okay? Oh? Can I interview your husband too?

923
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,320
Speaker 5: When you're here in Japan.

924
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 1: He's at worker, you know, Okay, Okay, sick, sick? Okay,

925
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: this is cool, and I'm glad you call cut your hair?

926
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: Oh shit? Could he because I'm gonna probably could he? Like?

927
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: Can he make me look cool? Can he give me

928
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: like a mohawk or something?

929
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, mohawk, skin fade, whatever you need?

930
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: Oh sick, Okay, cool. I'm very stoked about this.

931
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 5: I figured you wouldn't want a tattoo, but.

932
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know. I don't know. I've been I've

933
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:19,759
Speaker 1: been fairly anti tattoo for most of my life. But

934
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 1: maybe while I'm on acid in Japan, I'll open myself

935
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 1: up to new experiences.

936
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,279
Speaker 5: Are you gonna be doing the interviews or is that

937
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 5: like oh.

938
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 1: No, oh no, no, no, no, I will I.

939
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 4: Uh.

940
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,040
Speaker 1: Drugs and the gecko costume do not have never mixed. Well,

941
00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:46,640
Speaker 1: I like to keep those two things fairly separate. But no,

942
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:48,480
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm glad you called in. This is actually

943
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:50,799
Speaker 1: part of them because I'm like, I literally last night

944
00:52:51,000 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: was fucking Stone and I was looking and I was like,

945
00:52:53,719 --> 00:52:55,440
Speaker 1: it's only this much money to go there. I can

946
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: do that. It'll be easy. Let's do it. We're on

947
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: geto's going to.

948
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,520
Speaker 4: Yay Lyle forever.

949
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: Yes, send me a thing and we'll keep in touch

950
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:08,360
Speaker 1: on I'll that, you know.

951
00:53:08,520 --> 00:53:12,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, when I d M you, my my usual name

952
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 5: has my name Keiko in.

953
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:18,880
Speaker 1: It, So this is yeah, okay, perfect, perfect Keko. Is

954
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: there anything else you want to say to the people

955
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,279
Speaker 1: of the computer before we go?

956
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 5: Oh, shout out to Bri.

957
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: Yes, shout out Tobris as well. Sabri is one of

958
00:53:28,120 --> 00:53:31,840
Speaker 1: the call screamers. She's a she is a mega homie,

959
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:42,399
Speaker 1: very sweet individual. Shout out debris. Yeah, that's it, Kiko forever.

960
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you soon, dude.

961
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 5: Okay, I have a good night.

962
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: Damn that was that was genuine I that was genuinely

963
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:50,320
Speaker 1: kissed me.

964
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 2: Uh.

965
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about Japan. Uh, I have the you know,

966
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:02,040
Speaker 1: this is gonna this is a this is cliche. I'm

967
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:06,360
Speaker 1: gonna get cliche for a second. You know, the whole

968
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: there's a coffee table expression that's not even the word

969
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: someday is not a day type of shit was getting

970
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: into my head, and I'm like, I've always wanted to

971
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,839
Speaker 1: go to Asia but never been. I should just do it.

972
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: I like going to foreign countries alone with my little

973
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:35,080
Speaker 1: Gecko suitcase. I've done it a couple times. I did

974
00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: it once. I did like a weekend in Guatemala alone

975
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 1: with my Gecko suit and did interviews there. That was

976
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:49,760
Speaker 1: fucking awesome. I did it in Mexico City that was great.

977
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: And now we're gonna do it in Japan and hopefully

978
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: do it everywhere in the world. Very exciting stuff, very

979
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,000
Speaker 1: excited stuff. Hey, folks, it's Lyle. Lately I've been ending

980
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 1: my Sunday podcast with an excerpt from my street interview segments,

981
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,759
Speaker 1: and this is a great one. It's a conversation I

982
00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: had on Broadway Street in Nashville, Tennessee with a guy

983
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:19,360
Speaker 1: who is just kind of getting his life back together.

984
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 1: And I really enjoyed having the talk. And I'm gonna

985
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: shut up and play it because I hate rambling intros.

986
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be here to explain the transition

987
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:36,080
Speaker 1: between phone calls and real life. Soundy sounds Okay, let's

988
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,800
Speaker 1: get into it. Cody.

989
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, nice to meet you.

990
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: What's your deal, Cody? What's going on that? Man?

991
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 3: I'm just standing here. I'm gonna go to work. I

992
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 3: work at the hard Rock across the street.

993
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: You work at the hard Rock.

994
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm just enjoying the weather right now.

995
00:55:47,920 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: I feel like the hard Rock Cafe in Nashville must

996
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:52,760
Speaker 1: be a gnarly place.

997
00:55:53,080 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, today's my first day.

998
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 1: Actually, this is your first day. You haven't even been

999
00:55:56,400 --> 00:56:00,360
Speaker 1: in there yet. Okay, what I maybe this is a

1000
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:02,799
Speaker 1: stupid question. What inspired you to work at the hard

1001
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:03,520
Speaker 1: Rock Cafe?

1002
00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 3: I really just I love I loved Nashville. I like

1003
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 3: this the energy in the atmosphere, and I love to cook.

1004
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 3: And if that's mixed up both over there, it's NonStop,

1005
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:15,520
Speaker 3: you know what I mean? And I'm just really uh

1006
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:19,520
Speaker 3: anticipating what I can learn there and how I can

1007
00:56:19,560 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 3: progress in that environment. There's a lot of people there.

1008
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,680
Speaker 1: Interesting, So you're you're talking about what you could learn there?

1009
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: What what what is it that you want to learn that.

1010
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 3: Just more culinary skills because I love to cook. I

1011
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,960
Speaker 3: love to present food to people. I like people the

1012
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 3: smile on their face when they get it. And so

1013
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 3: it's the closest thing to being a chef in there.

1014
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 3: It's really cool.

1015
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: Interesting are you Are you a chef or your waiter?

1016
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,680
Speaker 1: I'm a cook, your cook, I'm gonna cook. So we'll

1017
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: get there. What what is like? So you you like

1018
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 1: to cook? What is your magnum opus dish?

1019
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 3: What does that mean?

1020
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 1: Like your your your signature dish? Probably checking af fredo,

1021
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:57,719
Speaker 1: checking out I'm not gonna lie. Yeah, definitely that's the

1022
00:56:57,719 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: bomb dot com Okay, and gro cheese. I feel like,

1023
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,520
Speaker 1: are you gonna be cooking chicken altfreddo and girl cheese

1024
00:57:04,560 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 1: and probably.

1025
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,120
Speaker 3: Not groal cheeses. Maybe chicken alfredo though definitely I have

1026
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:10,399
Speaker 3: to put my own little spin on it.

1027
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,920
Speaker 1: So you love Nashville and you want to contribute to

1028
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: the to the sphere of the culture. Yes, definitely tell

1029
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: me what you love about Nashville.

1030
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,439
Speaker 3: Well, first of all the people, there's some really nice

1031
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 3: people here and just it's a really a good place

1032
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 3: for opportunity. Man, It's a good place for you to grow.

1033
00:57:26,080 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 3: And that's what I'm trying to do in life right now,

1034
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 3: because I'm really just now like figuring what I like

1035
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 3: and who I am.

1036
00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: Interesting. Tell me, let's start from like before, when you

1037
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: didn't know, I didn't know. It was like a struggle

1038
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 1: to figure out who you are and what you like.

1039
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I was always high, because you're high. Yeah,

1040
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: I was on drugs for a long time, bro, And

1041
00:57:47,440 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 3: I'm just now getting off of those things, you know

1042
00:57:49,240 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 3: what I mean, and really just discovering who I am

1043
00:57:51,240 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 3: and what real happiness is because I thought I was happy,

1044
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: but now far from it.

1045
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,320
Speaker 1: Was it difficult to wean yourself off the.

1046
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: Drug very difficult. I've been. I've been using since I

1047
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 3: was like thirteen. I'm twenty seven. Yeah, yeah, and I'm

1048
00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 3: only I'm only like three or four months clean. He congratulations, man,

1049
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 3: thank you, bro, thank you.

1050
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:07,800
Speaker 1: What what kinds of things are you doing in your

1051
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 1: sobriety to like keep it up, to keep yourself in

1052
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 1: good shape, to try to you know, stay off.

1053
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,440
Speaker 3: Drugs, staying positive at all times no matter what. Yeah,

1054
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 3: that's the first thing I have to do every morning, bro,

1055
00:58:18,640 --> 00:58:20,760
Speaker 3: is look at what my day is going to be,

1056
00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 3: like how I'm going to look at it, Because it's

1057
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 3: all about my perspective, really it is. And willingness and

1058
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:31,160
Speaker 3: being open minded to suggestions and remaining teachable is the

1059
00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 3: biggest thing because I think I know everything, So yeah,

1060
00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:37,000
Speaker 3: I have to remain teachable bro at all times.

1061
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's important to not feel as though you're like

1062
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 1: done growing or like you know everything, because then you

1063
00:58:42,280 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: are opening yourself up to more of the universe's knowledge

1064
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: and sit.

1065
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 3: Yeah definitely.

1066
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:49,640
Speaker 1: So uh okay, so you were using for a while.

1067
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: Your three months sober again, congrats? What types of like

1068
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: things are you learning about yourself in those three months.

1069
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 3: I like a roller skate. I really like to roller skate, Bro,

1070
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 3: I do. And I really want to have a hand

1071
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:09,440
Speaker 3: in helping people, but not specifically help find missing people

1072
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 3: because I don't know why. That's that's something that's got

1073
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 3: to be hard on a family, bro, is to not know.

1074
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:17,600
Speaker 1: You want to help find missing missing people? Yeah, like

1075
00:59:17,640 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: go on like rogue missions to find like folks on

1076
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: like milk cartons and stuff.

1077
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 3: Yes, like I really want to do that, you know

1078
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 3: what I'm saying. Yeah, And it's I don't know why

1079
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 3: or how, it's just something I would like to do

1080
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 3: because whether they're alive or whether they're dead, it's the

1081
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,120
Speaker 3: fact of knowing for their families that's got to be hard,

1082
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 3: waking up every day wondering.

1083
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, have you ever like gone, have you like looked

1084
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,720
Speaker 1: for missing posters and like gone on your own sort

1085
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: of like hunts for the folks?

1086
00:59:43,800 --> 00:59:45,760
Speaker 3: No? Not, Yeah, I don't have the resources or the

1087
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 3: time right now to do that, but it's something I

1088
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:48,760
Speaker 3: aspire to do.

1089
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 1: Man, it really is anything else like a roller skating

1090
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: looking for missing people? I both very niche like I

1091
00:59:55,440 --> 00:59:56,680
Speaker 1: wouldn't have guessed those things.

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00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:56,920
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1093
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad you're thinking outside of the box here. Yeah,

1094
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: anything else that you're interested in developing for yourself.

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01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 3: I want to help, Okay, like people like the guy

1096
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 3: that was just sitting here. I want to help people

1097
01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 3: like that man that are in because I was that

1098
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 3: guy before. I've been there. I've been on the streets

1099
01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:18,320
Speaker 3: and not knowing where to go or no having no

1100
01:00:18,360 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 3: one to talk to or no money or no resources.

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01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,880
Speaker 3: So finally, I would like to get in a position

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01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,320
Speaker 3: to help those people. I just want to help, Bro,

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01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 3: you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Can I ask you, you know, having been in that

1105
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: guy's position, having been on the streets with not a

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01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: lot of resources, like, what would be the most helpful

1107
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: thing for you in that moment?

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01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 3: Go to rehabit all day because they are going to

1109
01:00:40,360 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 3: help you. You know. The first they're gonna teach you

1110
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 3: how to help yourself, and then they're gonna help you

1111
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 3: as far as shelter, food, transportation, everything you need to

1112
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 3: become a better person. They are gonna give you that.

1113
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 3: It's the best thing I've done ever.

1114
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: See did you go to rehab three months ago?

1115
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? I went to Samaritan Actually oh no shit, yeah,

1116
01:00:57,560 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 3: oh so was it?

1117
01:00:58,360 --> 01:01:00,720
Speaker 1: I assume it was like really hard at first. We're

1118
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:02,200
Speaker 1: going through a lot of like withdrawal and whatnot.

1119
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely because my DLC. Can I stand it on here?

1120
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Speaker 1: You can tell what everyone?

1121
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 3: Okay? Yeah, my DLC is fitanel heroin, which is deadly Bro.

1122
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 3: It's and it took an OD for me to actually

1123
01:01:11,600 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 3: wake up. It took me dying to wake up, which

1124
01:01:13,600 --> 01:01:16,240
Speaker 3: is ironic, but Yeah, I did go through those withdrawals

1125
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 3: and that's the hardest part. But it's like a weak work.

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Speaker 1: And you fucking made it through.

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01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:25,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, Yeah I did. And I don't know, it's

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01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 3: a blessing. I'm not really a big believer in God,

1129
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 3: but I do have a higher power, you.

1130
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: Know what I mean. It's fuck it because in the

1131
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: like NA and AA and all that stuff they talk

1132
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 1: about like submitting to a higher power, which doesn't necessarily

1133
01:01:38,680 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: mean God. So in your own like definition of that,

1134
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: what is your higher power?

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01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 3: Well, I'm I have a lot of pagan beliefs. I

1136
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 3: have a lot of pagan beliefs and wicked beliefs, you

1137
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 3: know what I mean, which is just it just really

1138
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:58,280
Speaker 3: just ties into the earth and nature and there. I

1139
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 3: feel like there's a God of love. There's a god sadness.

1140
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 3: There's a God of the sky, god of you know

1141
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,440
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, the trees, There's a god for everything.

1142
01:02:05,240 --> 01:02:08,640
Speaker 3: So but my main, really my main high power is

1143
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 3: the universe.

1144
01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: Bro.

1145
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 3: Like the universe.

1146
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: I want it.

1147
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 3: There's a force that puts people in our path for

1148
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:15,240
Speaker 3: a reason. There's a force that makes us think a

1149
01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,400
Speaker 3: certain way. There's a force that makes us go through this,

1150
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 3: so we get ready for that even though if we

1151
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:19,480
Speaker 3: don't know it.

1152
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: Are you deterministic in your beliefs? Do you believe that

1153
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:25,240
Speaker 1: things happen for a reason that is kind of predetermined

1154
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: by forces outside of our control?

1155
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 3: Especially my biggest thing is horoscopes. They're pre written, but

1156
01:02:34,200 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 3: when I read mine, it's like it's already it just

1157
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:39,840
Speaker 3: it speaks on my situation and what I'm going through,

1158
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,920
Speaker 3: not physically, mentally, internally, and it's that's the weirdest thing

1159
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 3: to me. Man, that's so weird.

1160
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 1: What's your sign? PCEs?

1161
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, so we're already very tuned in with the other

1162
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 3: side type stuff.

1163
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:54,040
Speaker 1: And how long has that philosophy been a part of

1164
01:02:54,040 --> 01:02:54,480
Speaker 1: your life?

1165
01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 3: For as long as I remember, bro, since I was

1166
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 3: a kid, Like, I've always heard things different, seen different

1167
01:03:01,120 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 3: things look different to me than other people. Or I've

1168
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 3: always seen other sides of things that normal people didn't.

1169
01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 3: Really I'm not gonna say normal with that other people

1170
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,080
Speaker 3: didn't see. So I've always felt like I've had not

1171
01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:13,440
Speaker 3: a gift, but like a third eye since before I

1172
01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 3: was even aware of it, you know what I mean,

1173
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:16,320
Speaker 3: It's always been open.

1174
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:20,280
Speaker 1: Has uh you know, following your horoscope and and and

1175
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 1: sort of this philosophy of the determinism has it guided

1176
01:03:24,960 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: you into positive places in your life? Oh?

1177
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:30,959
Speaker 3: Yes, definitely. I gotta be work at two. Yeah.

1178
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: Oh what time is there right now?

1179
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 3: On fire good? Yeah?

1180
01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: Oh man, I'm really happy for you.

1181
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 2: Man.

1182
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 1: You have a very bright smile on your face. It

1183
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 1: seems like you're doing a lot better.

1184
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've just met you. I'm alive.

1185
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, man, what uh? What are you the most excited

1186
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 1: for it to work at? For the hard rock?

1187
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:50,360
Speaker 3: You want to be honest, please.

1188
01:03:50,640 --> 01:03:53,680
Speaker 1: The girls seems to be a trend going on.

1189
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 3: They're really cute girls there, you know what I mean.

1190
01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 3: But I'm not gonna let that determine from my main focus.

1191
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 3: It's gonna be cool to make some new friends, get

1192
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 3: some new associates because I've had to let all the

1193
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,080
Speaker 3: old ones go, So it's gonna be nice to meet

1194
01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 3: some new friends. Man. Yeah.

1195
01:04:06,200 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: So I when you stopped using, did you have like

1196
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 1: a lot of relationships or you know, friendships or anything

1197
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: that were like really tied in with the drug use

1198
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:16,479
Speaker 1: that you had to cut off.

1199
01:04:16,600 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 3: Yes, When I look back, the only thing me and

1200
01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 3: those people had in common was getting high.

1201
01:04:21,240 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1202
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that's a very toxic. I didn't know then,

1203
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:28,160
Speaker 3: but I know now that's very toxic. And one thing

1204
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 3: that I had to quit doing was talking to girls,

1205
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 3: and that's my biggest distraction and my biggest downfall.

1206
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 1: Every Just why was it a distracting thing for you?

1207
01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:40,480
Speaker 3: Because I put more time into them than I do

1208
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:43,080
Speaker 3: me sure they become a higher power.

1209
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's not good. That's interesting. We talked at

1210
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: the very beginning of this to a girl who was

1211
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: just getting a divorce and she was had a similar

1212
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: thing where she was like, I'm putting all my energy

1213
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:56,760
Speaker 1: into this guy, and I'm not key saving anything for myself,

1214
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: you know. So I feel like it's a common thing

1215
01:04:59,120 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: with ye training.

1216
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1217
01:05:02,080 --> 01:05:06,880
Speaker 1: So to recap roller skating, looking for missing folks ship,

1218
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 1: What was the third thing you had? A good? Third thing?

1219
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:10,560
Speaker 1: I want to remember.

1220
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,200
Speaker 3: What was that?

1221
01:05:12,560 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: Man, you're picking good niches?

1222
01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,720
Speaker 3: Was it hard rock? Was it cooking cooking hard rock?

1223
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: I'm I'm oh, I know. I'm very glad to seem

1224
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,280
Speaker 1: as though you have a lot of very exciting things

1225
01:05:25,320 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 1: ahead of you doccupy your life and your time that

1226
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,480
Speaker 1: are not only gonna be fun for you, but are

1227
01:05:29,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 1: gonna help other people?

1228
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 3: Yeah. Oh I love to take pictures in paint. Oh yeah,

1229
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,360
Speaker 3: and I didn't know that before, but I'm really good

1230
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 3: at those things.

1231
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: Do you have a before you go? Do you want

1232
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 1: to plug anything you have an Instagram or you.

1233
01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:41,479
Speaker 3: Make art or anything that don't have any social media.

1234
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,720
Speaker 1: You don't have any social media, you must be much

1235
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: more calm.

1236
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's this distracting. Of course it's distracting. And of

1237
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,640
Speaker 3: course I find myself always comparing my life to social media.

1238
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,280
Speaker 3: So oh, I had to let it go.

1239
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:55,280
Speaker 1: Has getting off of like hard drugs sort of helped

1240
01:05:55,320 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: you with your relationship to other vices such as like

1241
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:00,480
Speaker 1: talking to girls, social media thing like that.

1242
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's made me very much more aware of these

1243
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,560
Speaker 3: problems so I can start doing something about them. But

1244
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:11,920
Speaker 3: you want to know my biggest my biggest obstacle, Yeah.

1245
01:06:11,360 --> 01:06:16,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, my ego interesting myself? Yeah, how in what ways?

1246
01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: How do you combat that? How do you in your

1247
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: experience for a better relationship with your ego?

1248
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,040
Speaker 3: Just being aware of it, Yeah, and knowing when I'm

1249
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 3: being egotistical and chill because I miss a lot of

1250
01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,200
Speaker 3: messages because my ego is in the way. So being

1251
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:29,840
Speaker 3: aware of it.

1252
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 1: Well, that goes back to what you were talking about

1253
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:34,400
Speaker 1: earlier about like wanting to be more teachable and the

1254
01:06:34,480 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 1: bigger your ego is. It's blocks all that shit clo.

1255
01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: You have to get out of here. Yeah, I have

1256
01:06:39,560 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before you go.

1257
01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:46,200
Speaker 3: No, man, just just don't give up. Just don't. It

1258
01:06:46,240 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 3: is possible. Don't ever let anyone tell you that you can't,

1259
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 3: because you can. You can.

1260
01:06:51,960 --> 01:06:53,000
Speaker 1: What's your name again, dude?

1261
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 3: Cody? Cody, nice to meet you, got nice.

1262
01:06:55,040 --> 01:07:00,400
Speaker 1: To be You're too many night.

1263
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 3: Never be get ghost doing his right. He was teaching

1264
01:07:03,320 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 3: you to housing your.

1265
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: Life, but he's not ready.

1266
01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 3: An expert

1267
01:07:11,600 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: H