Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio of the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty arm Strong and Jetty and
Speaker 2: now he Armstrong and Yetty, a Yale psychiatry fellow, told
Speaker 2: MSNBC it's okay to cancel Thanksgiving plans with relatives who
Speaker 2: voted for Trump, also endorsing the effort Trump voters, Yeah,
Speaker 2: psychologist says, or therapist says, got the whole world of
Speaker 2: therapy seriously, Oh my god. Therapists say it's okay to
Speaker 2: cancel Thanksgiving if you don't want to be with Trump voters,
Speaker 2: all right, go go live your weird life. What percentage
Speaker 2: if the whole therapy world's a scam?
Speaker 1: Do you reckon?
Speaker 2: I don't think it's a scam, but is worthless eighty
Speaker 2: to ninety percent in my opinion, And I have spent
Speaker 2: many thousands of dollars with many, many people. There's definitely
Speaker 2: some helpful good stuff out there, but there's a lot
Speaker 2: that's not, which is so unfortunate because there are a
Speaker 2: lot of people that need help in all kinds of
Speaker 2: different ways, and they think they're gonna get it that way,
Speaker 2: and man, you.
Speaker 1: Are not unless you get really lucky.
Speaker 2: Wow, dang in your marriage and your kids and all
Speaker 2: the things you're and you usually call somebody when you're
Speaker 2: in a crisis, and they are so unlikely to help you.
Speaker 1: It's just so horrible.
Speaker 2: Just to make it cleary, yours is not a knee
Speaker 2: jerk dismissing. It's got an observation of the execution, the
Speaker 2: actual law, you performance of it. I have got decades
Speaker 2: and maybe six figures worth of bills over the many
Speaker 2: years with therapists, and it is it is mostly a
Speaker 2: waste of time, with exceptions that are incredibly valuable. That's
Speaker 2: one thing that keeps people, you know, trying and going
Speaker 2: back because the ones that work are amazing and very helpful.
Speaker 2: But whoa anyway, didn't mean to get off on that.
Speaker 2: There is some way myself breaking news. The hush money
Speaker 2: case is going to be delayed for some reason, which
Speaker 2: sometimes means on these cases it's going away and you'll
Speaker 2: never hear about it again. I don't even remember which
Speaker 2: one this was. I mean, I remember it's Stormy Daniels
Speaker 2: and the sex and all that sort of, but I
Speaker 2: don't remember. Alvin Bragg thirty four Felonies et cetera, adapting
Speaker 2: paperwork misdemeanors up into felonies.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is one Vershanya.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, wow, And I'm disappointed because I want this
Speaker 2: appeal appeals court to treat it like I almost said,
Speaker 2: Aaron judge, but he's a loser. Hey, Hanson, just want
Speaker 2: to jump in he real quick. Noah Rothman is on
Speaker 2: Fox talking about this right now. Can you grab some
Speaker 2: of that hands, And I'd love to hear what he's
Speaker 2: saying on this result, because if this turns out to
Speaker 2: be like you just said, this will be the nail
Speaker 2: in the coffin of the proof that it was just
Speaker 2: law fair, It wasn't just an attempt to bring the
Speaker 2: guy down. I just wanted it to be so inescapably
Speaker 2: clear nobody could could deny it anymore.
Speaker 1: Although there's such cultists.
Speaker 2: I mean, they would accuse the judge, the appeals panel
Speaker 2: or whatever that overturned the verdict of being you know,
Speaker 2: maga or whatever.
Speaker 1: So there's no getting through to these people.
Speaker 2: So here's something I came across that I thought was
Speaker 2: darned interesting, and it looks to me, without a tremendous
Speaker 2: amount of research on this, that the Free market plays
Speaker 2: a big role in this graph. So it's a graph
Speaker 2: of things that have gotten cheaper since two thousand. So
Speaker 2: this century things that have gotten more expensive since two
Speaker 2: thousand and the difference is amazing of their list. You
Speaker 2: know what has gotten more affordable the most this century.
Speaker 2: TVs have become more affordable almost one hundred percent cheaper
Speaker 2: than they were beginning of the century, followed by toys, which.
Speaker 1: Has got to do with I don't know, Chinese crap, cheap,
Speaker 1: Chinese crap correct.
Speaker 2: Cell phone services have gotten have gone down forty one
Speaker 2: percent since the beginning of the century. Who even thinks
Speaker 2: about their cell phone bill?
Speaker 1: Really?
Speaker 2: I was trying to explain to my kids on how
Speaker 2: I only called mom and dad every so often because
Speaker 2: it was expensive long distance phone calls. You know, you
Speaker 2: had to think about what time of day, what day
Speaker 2: it was, and how often you called and how long
Speaker 2: you talked. I'd keep an eye on the cloth, think,
Speaker 2: oh god, it's been ten minutes. I better get off
Speaker 2: the phone. Nobody thinks about that at all anymore, which
Speaker 2: is cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sorry, I just had a memory.
Speaker 2: Oh boy, there I am at my fiance's house and her.
Speaker 1: Quite a bit older.
Speaker 2: I grew up just barely post recession, not recession depression.
Speaker 1: Dad, who was extremely frugal.
Speaker 2: I called my parents to let them know something, and
Speaker 2: it was like not a long distance call, but a
Speaker 2: toll call in the judy's dad. He called me on it,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, really, really, that call probably cost thirty
Speaker 2: eight cents.
Speaker 1: Here's a buck.
Speaker 2: Keep the chance. Closest I ever came to a spat
Speaker 2: with my in laws. My godling me up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Did you have that tone of voice or were you
Speaker 2: just thinking that? Or you know what? The human memory
Speaker 2: is a funny thing. I would like to hear the
Speaker 2: audio of that. I was trying to keep it cool,
Speaker 2: but I suspect there was just a bit of edge
Speaker 2: in my voice saying I'll be happy to pay for it.
Speaker 2: Is different, fan, here's a buck keep the change.
Speaker 1: Well, I believe that was the verbiage and the tone
Speaker 1: is different. Accounts accounts very.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, Oh my god. So clothing has been
Speaker 2: roughly flat. Trust trust me, this is about to get interesting.
Speaker 2: Clothing has been flat this century. New cars are up
Speaker 2: twenty six percent since the year two thousand. This is
Speaker 2: all ingested for inflation. You realize cars are up twenty
Speaker 2: six percent, But what has gone up the most. I'll
Speaker 2: skip up there, childcare and nursery school. Why is that
Speaker 2: up one hundred and thirty two percent? Why is childcare
Speaker 2: up so much? Is it all the subsidies that drove
Speaker 2: it up and that's part of it? And just I
Speaker 2: think demand? Why is there so much more demand? I
Speaker 2: just I would like to know. I would like to
Speaker 2: hear a smart person explain all that.
Speaker 1: More and more women in the workforce.
Speaker 2: But here's your top three. College textbooks are up one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty four percent since the year two.
Speaker 1: Costs of paper and ink.
Speaker 2: Yes, well, yeah, we all know that printing.
Speaker 1: Books is so much more expensive than it used to be.
Speaker 2: College tuition and fees up one hundred and eighty five
Speaker 2: percent since two thousand, and they were expensive in two thousand. Yeah,
Speaker 2: there's been a five percent increase in the number of students,
Speaker 2: and what an eighty seven percent to increase in the
Speaker 2: number of administrators.
Speaker 1: That's funny, it seems to correlate.
Speaker 2: I would love to have a bunch of policy makers
Speaker 2: and economists take on this chart and argue with each
Speaker 2: other over the ones that have gone off a cliff
Speaker 2: in terms of prices and the ones that have shot
Speaker 2: up like a rocket in terms of prices, and explain
Speaker 2: the differences in you know, policies and the sort of
Speaker 2: things they are and everything, and why this is justified
Speaker 2: but this doesn't make any sense, or what we could
Speaker 2: do to change this around because some of this stuff
Speaker 2: is nut So the college tuition and fees, I think
Speaker 2: we mostly have a handle on that. The one we
Speaker 2: don't have a handle on because nobody fully understands it.
Speaker 2: But it's all kinds of government intervention. It's the opposite
Speaker 2: of the free market. Hospital services two hundred and forty
Speaker 2: four percent since the beginning of this century moving up.
Speaker 2: And I don't know about you. I mean, I didn't
Speaker 2: have kids till twenty ten, so I spent a lot
Speaker 2: more time at the doctor than I ever did in
Speaker 2: my life before. But oh my god, it's expensive to
Speaker 2: go to the doctor with anything now.
Speaker 1: It's horrific.
Speaker 2: And I've been reading a fair amount about this and
Speaker 2: trying I'm struggling with how to present it to the show.
Speaker 2: Maybe we ought to have Craig the healthcare Guru on again,
Speaker 2: but because of the unholy uh marriage between alleged free
Speaker 2: market companies and the huge amount of regulation, which is
Speaker 2: government officials decreeing how the market should operate, and the
Speaker 2: bribes that go between them at every stage of healthcare.
Speaker 2: At every stage of getting your prescriptions, for instance, there
Speaker 2: are multiple players who are reaping huge profits and squeak
Speaker 2: any competition with the blessing of their government overlords. It
Speaker 2: is an enormous scam and the consumer is getting screwed.
Speaker 2: Bad dishonesty in Congress is a big part of it too.
Speaker 2: I got some bills the other day. It has gotten
Speaker 2: to the point now where I used to with my
Speaker 2: kids pretty much knee jerk, something big happens, We're going
Speaker 2: to the doctor. I'm really gonna hold off unless it's
Speaker 2: very very clear that going to the doctor is a
Speaker 2: good idea.
Speaker 1: Because it's so flip and expensive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Johnny, you've still got one arm left. Let's
Speaker 2: just see how quick the bleeding stops. Let's be cup
Speaker 2: is half full, people here, You've got an arm. Hospital
Speaker 2: services are up two hundred and forty four percent since
Speaker 2: the beginning of the century, and you would need one
Speaker 2: hundred economists and policymakers to even get close to explaining why,
Speaker 2: and then the solution would be more complicated than that.
Speaker 2: Dang it. Yeah, the general overview is not that complicated.
Speaker 2: So it's similar to we've been talking about on our
Speaker 2: local news because we broadcast out of California. They're about
Speaker 2: to add another sixty five cents a gallon to our
Speaker 2: gas in California, which if you're from other states, you
Speaker 2: know California has by far the most expensive gas. It's
Speaker 2: just insane. They're gonna add another sixty five cents. The
Speaker 2: goal is to make it so you won't drive a
Speaker 2: gas powered car anymore. You'll either ride the light rail,
Speaker 2: or ride a bike, or buy an electric car. They're
Speaker 2: trying to force you to change your lifestyle. The goal
Speaker 2: with for a lot of people, some of it is
Speaker 2: just greed and making money. But with the whole hospital thing,
Speaker 2: plenty of policy makers they want to get it so
Speaker 2: expensive that people throw up their hands and say, yeah,
Speaker 2: full government healthcare, sign me up.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: And at some point you can understand where you would
Speaker 2: get there, think, well, how much more expensive could it
Speaker 2: get it? At least I wouldn't have to fill out
Speaker 2: all this paperwork and everything in the same way in theory.
Speaker 2: It's not the way it actually would work, right right,
Speaker 2: I was just doing some quick math. Yeah, one two
Speaker 2: hundred and thirty fifth of the world's population making meaningless
Speaker 2: green energy gestures is really going to help with the
Speaker 2: climate change. It is just so dumb and frustrating and angering.
Speaker 2: Democrats have the advantage of it. They can come up
Speaker 2: with policies that make things so expensive they convince people
Speaker 2: to go their direction.
Speaker 1: Yeah, whether it's has any meaningful impact or not, what
Speaker 1: do you want?
Speaker 2: It's not the point. The point is whether they feel
Speaker 2: noble or not. Anyway, speaking of the prices of things,
Speaker 2: I found this so interesting. It's an article in the
Speaker 2: journal about luxury goods that they cost a lot more
Speaker 2: these days with no improvement and quality to make up
Speaker 2: for it, and sales are starting to dip among some
Speaker 2: of the luxury brants. I want to hear about that
Speaker 2: basic cotton T shirt at Christian Dior. How much are
Speaker 2: you paying for your basic cotton T shirts? Well, at
Speaker 2: Dior it's one thousand dollars. Whoa Gucci's plainest black horse
Speaker 2: bit loafers. We're gonna have to start with the term
Speaker 2: horse bit. I mean, does a horse like chomp on
Speaker 2: it and that leave teeth marks? Is that desirable? I
Speaker 2: don't even know what they mean. It's a little gold
Speaker 2: thing on the top of the shoe. Looks like the
Speaker 2: bit you put in a horse's mouth. Okay, I'm enlightened
Speaker 2: now Their plainest horse bit loafers ringing at nine hundred
Speaker 2: and ninety dollars A Brunello Chucinelli Cardigan is eighty nine
Speaker 2: to ninety five. And I don't mean eighty nine dollars now,
Speaker 2: I mean nine thousand freaking dollars, nine thousand. I want
Speaker 2: to discuss this because I saw some of this in
Speaker 2: Vegas over the weekend, and the whatever goes with that,
Speaker 2: the culture, whatever, and the price sensitivity among different groups
Speaker 2: for luxury brands.
Speaker 1: That's when it gets really interesting.
Speaker 2: Are we going to talk elasticity? It's another elastic prices Tuesday.
Speaker 1: It's right to.
Speaker 2: The Armstrong and Getty Show. So Marco Rubio, senator from Florida,
Speaker 2: who I'm a fan of, is going to be our
Speaker 2: secretary of State. I like his hawkishnists, and Bremer tweeted
Speaker 2: out that Mike Walls and Marco Rubio, Mike Walls is
Speaker 2: going to be the national Security advisor, I guess and
Speaker 2: Marco Ruby are both serious and credible on foreign policy.
Speaker 2: US allies around the world feeling more comfortable with both
Speaker 2: of these announcements. I don't know how concerned I was
Speaker 2: with how comfortable the rest of the world was with
Speaker 2: Trump's picks, but doesn't hurt. And it's an interesting thing
Speaker 2: I've heard people say throughout the years. You know, if
Speaker 2: your president asked you to serve, you serve. But Marco
Speaker 2: Rubio is a pretty young guy still in his forties.
Speaker 2: Could have been a senator for another forty years from Florida,
Speaker 2: which was pretty good.
Speaker 1: He tried to get out.
Speaker 2: He's announced he wasn't going to run anymore, and the
Speaker 2: Republican Party convinced him to run again. I think he's
Speaker 2: a little worn out by could be the whole legislative
Speaker 2: thing anyway in DC, but because he's got a maximum
Speaker 2: of four years of secretary say and then he's done.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, interesting move. Interesting move.
Speaker 2: So back to our discussion of prices and inflation, luxury
Speaker 2: brands and that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: I just found this interesting.
Speaker 2: Psychologists who study consumer behavior point out that people buy
Speaker 2: designer goods mostly almost entirely for emotional reasons, because you
Speaker 2: can get to be mid priced goods that are extremely
Speaker 2: high quality. Obviously, the main one is to separate themselves
Speaker 2: from the crowd the poor people and signal where they
Speaker 2: sit in the social pecking order. And luxury brands spend
Speaker 2: billions of dollars a year on advertising to make sure
Speaker 2: their products become totems of wealth and success in people's minds.
Speaker 2: Some of it's in your own mind, and then that
Speaker 2: nobody will even know, like the T shirt exam but
Speaker 2: who's going to know you have a thousand dollars T shirt?
Speaker 2: Some things like the shoes, other people in the know
Speaker 2: will recognize that. In the room, you'll and you'll be
Speaker 2: able to connect on that level that oh, you're one
Speaker 2: of us. Sure watches are a big thing among men,
Speaker 2: and that sort of thing too. Some luxury shoppers like
Speaker 2: to telegraph their riches more than others, though, and here's
Speaker 2: where it gets interested interesting. People want to make a statement,
Speaker 2: gravit toward labels with bigger logos to send an obvious signal.
Speaker 1: I hate logos.
Speaker 2: The ultra rich, on the other hand, don't tend to
Speaker 2: shout about their wealth as much. They buy the costliest
Speaker 2: but most discrete luxury brands and they list some, but
Speaker 2: I don't know from these brands. One study found that
Speaker 2: this is the part I love. One study found that
Speaker 2: for every five thousand dollars increase in the price of
Speaker 2: luxury goods, the brand's logo shrinks by a centimeter. In
Speaker 2: other words, the guy wearing head to toe logos is
Speaker 2: unlikely to be one of the luxury's biggest spenders. Right there,
Speaker 2: you're kind of wealthy. I want everybody to know how
Speaker 2: wealthy I am. Type right, so you see a super
Speaker 2: rich guy no logos, That stuff probably cost an insane
Speaker 2: amount of money's or in ten thousand dollars pants or something,
Speaker 2: right exactly because the consumer's value luxury goods the STATS
Speaker 2: symbol as willing to pay huge premium. Luxury brands routinely
Speaker 2: charge a mark of eight to twelve times on the
Speaker 2: production costs of their goods. This makes the business is
Speaker 2: selling luxury very, very profitable if you can become one
Speaker 2: of those brands. Top luxury labels have margins, in other words,
Speaker 2: profit north of thirty percent, compared to around seven percent
Speaker 2: for your GAP or H and M for instance. Well,
Speaker 2: I've talked about grailed and eBay before these are websites.
Speaker 2: Those very Gucci shoes you mentioned, you could get a
Speaker 2: new pair your size, probably three to four hundred dollars,
Speaker 2: completely new, unworn, you go slightly worn. You talking like
Speaker 2: two hundred bucks. So you know, if you're a discrete shopper,
Speaker 2: you can do it that way. But maybe that takes
Speaker 2: all the emotional fun out of it for those people
Speaker 2: I don't know well, and I wonder interestingly, luxury brands
Speaker 2: have an inversion of usual consumer laws. The higher the
Speaker 2: price is, the more business they'll get because the ultra
Speaker 2: rich perceived that has separated themselves again from we the
Speaker 2: poor people. I got a book for you. It's called
Speaker 2: the Bible. I had the needle. You might want to
Speaker 2: look up that the whole phrase there.
Speaker 1: Huh oh what I suggest? How much is this leader?
Speaker 2: Arn't Trump and getty?
Speaker 3: I made two separate videos before the election. One of
Speaker 3: the video said I was gonna vote for Kamala Harris.
Speaker 3: The other video said I was gonna vote for Donald Trump.
Speaker 3: And I just wanted to see the mixed reactions from
Speaker 3: people and how people would react. Because I do a
Speaker 3: lot of work from my hometown, do a lot.
Speaker 1: Of work for my community.
Speaker 3: I work with young boys, and I never said who
Speaker 3: I was voting for. But I made those two videos
Speaker 3: because I want to show people how they are in reality.
Speaker 3: I made the Donald Trump video and I made the
Speaker 3: Kamala Harris video. Under the Kamala Harris video, you definitely
Speaker 3: had some Trump supporters like, well, we understand that you
Speaker 3: may have a different opinion or whatever, but we still
Speaker 3: support what you do. Maybe you'll wake up one day,
Speaker 3: et cetera, et cetera. You know things like that. It
Speaker 3: wouldn't nothing, vow with't no bad comments or nothing. I
Speaker 3: made the Donald Trump video. I got people to unfollowed me.
Speaker 3: I got people saying they can't support nothing I.
Speaker 2: Do no more.
Speaker 3: I got full calling, y'all types of names, et cetera,
Speaker 3: et cetera. But what's crazy is all of the Kamala
Speaker 3: hair supporters have become what they accused Trump supporters of being.
Speaker 3: When you say you support Donald Trump, y'all be ready
Speaker 3: to kill them, y'all ready to hate to burn them
Speaker 3: at the stake. You call them all types of names
Speaker 3: and unfollow them. You don't care what they're doing for
Speaker 3: their community. Now, if you support Trump, if you, I
Speaker 3: hate you so much, et cetera, et cetera. But all
Speaker 3: the people under the post, all the Trump supporters, when
Speaker 3: I said I was going to vote for Cavolo, it
Speaker 3: was all love anyway.
Speaker 1: It was like what we said to make you you
Speaker 1: can fade him down.
Speaker 2: Now, that's a young man by the name of King Randall,
Speaker 2: who is he explained, as an activist in his local community,
Speaker 2: working with young boys and that sort of thing. And
Speaker 2: he just did that as a social experiment. And it's
Speaker 2: funny that came under my radar screen like thirty seconds
Speaker 2: after this stead and this is Nate Silver, legendary, Nate
Speaker 2: Silver Polster. And he said, even though our forecast was
Speaker 2: near fifty to fifty for almost the whole election race,
Speaker 2: there were certainly periods that were relatively better or worse
Speaker 2: for Harrison Trump. Our narrative content followed accordingly, with about
Speaker 2: an even mix of newsletters that presented optimistic cases for
Speaker 2: Harris and Trump during the ups and downs of the campaign.
Speaker 2: We all remember that the post convention bump and that
Speaker 2: sort of stuff. So I essentially got to perform a
Speaker 2: randomized control trial on how partisans in both camps reacted
Speaker 2: and could in bad news, and there was an asymmetry.
Speaker 2: Republicans are generally happy when you agree with them part
Speaker 2: way or half the time, admittedly, and then he goes
Speaker 2: into some of the details. But Democrats, however, and here
Speaker 2: I'm not referring so much the Silver bulletin subscribers, that's
Speaker 2: this newsletter, but in the broader universe online often get
Speaker 2: angry with you when you only halfway agree with them.
Speaker 2: And I really think this difference in personality profile tells
Speaker 2: you a little something about why Trump won. Trump was
Speaker 2: happy to take on all comers, in other words, engage them,
Speaker 2: talk to them, disagree with them, argue with them, even
Speaker 2: whereas with Democrats, disagreement on any hot button topic, say
Speaker 2: COVID school closures or Biden's age, will have you cast
Speaker 2: out as a heretic. That's not a good way to
Speaker 2: build a majority. And now Democrats no longer have one.
Speaker 2: And Nate Silver's definitely a non partisan guy. That's just
Speaker 2: his observation. Well, that's clearly true. I mean, how many
Speaker 2: different venues did Trump go into where he knew he
Speaker 2: was hated walking in there? Kamala didn't even go on
Speaker 2: shows where she's mostly liked. Yeah, other than notably the
Speaker 2: Brett Bear interview, which was intentionally shortened. Right, she showed
Speaker 2: fifteen minutes late for him. Yeah, yeah, But anyway, I
Speaker 2: just I think, in building toward a point, well, why
Speaker 2: don't we just work our way there? So came across
Speaker 2: a Twitter thread that I thought was quite good. Rachel
Speaker 2: Wong was behind it, and she costs a lot of
Speaker 2: different people.
Speaker 1: It's why.
Speaker 2: It's one of those why Trump won, why Hair's lost things.
Speaker 2: And she goes into a lot of reasons spoiler alert.
Speaker 2: She says they aren't racist, sexist, or stupid, and she mentions,
Speaker 2: and this all includes quotes and links and videos and
Speaker 2: stuff like that, but patriotism, prosperity, policies, positivity, and she
Speaker 2: quotes Constantine kissin the Russian British he's not British comedian
Speaker 2: talking about you know, most Americans love America. They feel
Speaker 2: positive about it, and they think the American dream is
Speaker 2: fine and they're still trying to grab it. But among
Speaker 2: elites that that is just incredibly unfashionable. Uh, common sense
Speaker 2: versus nonsense, free speech versus censorship.
Speaker 1: She has another person she quotes.
Speaker 2: Yet I want to jump in real quick on that
Speaker 2: because I know I hear that portrayed to all the
Speaker 2: time because Trump says things about America in its current
Speaker 2: state very negative. And then I would see on your
Speaker 2: lefty channels like MSNBC he continues to bad mouth America,
Speaker 2: how can he expect to give vote for Well. The
Speaker 2: difference between the left's bad mouthing America and Trump's bad
Speaker 2: mouthing America is Trump was bad mouthing the current state
Speaker 2: of things, which seventy five percent of Americans thought we
Speaker 2: were going in the wrong direction, so that would resonate
Speaker 2: with But he wasn't bad mouthing the Founding Fathers, where
Speaker 2: the Founding Principles or the Founding Principles are the fact
Speaker 2: that we exist on earth, whereas the left is trying
Speaker 2: to take all the names off of your schools and
Speaker 2: thinks that the world would be better if the United
Speaker 2: States had never existed. Those are very different versions of
Speaker 2: bad mouthing America. I'm criticizing because I love or I
Speaker 2: just hate it top to bottom.
Speaker 1: Very different thing.
Speaker 2: I'm glad you said that she mentions backlash against anti
Speaker 2: mail sentiment and a better vision for boys and men,
Speaker 2: and I would love to get more into that. Then
Speaker 2: she says the obvious, every regular, everyday folks who want
Speaker 2: regular everyday things, food, clothing, shelter, privacy, respect for boundaries,
Speaker 2: sex based rights for women's and women and girls, women's spaces,
Speaker 2: women's sports, child safeguarding and not indoctrinating them, porn in schools.
Speaker 2: And you know some of the people the Trump surrounded
Speaker 2: him with, and she it's it's very good in detailed
Speaker 2: and will include a link. But the main thing I
Speaker 2: wanted to get to, because it hasn't really crystallized in
Speaker 2: my head until recently, is her point number three. It
Speaker 2: has more to do with the repudiation of totalitarianism than
Speaker 2: with Trump as a person. And you hear totalitarianism and
Speaker 2: you think of Oprah's ridiculous, you know, predictions and everything
Speaker 2: about the Handmaid's Tale and there will be no more
Speaker 2: elections and that sort of thing. And Michael Madison Square
Speaker 2: Garden is reminiscent of the Nazis, and it was just
Speaker 2: like the Nazis.
Speaker 1: You remember the Nazis, Yeah, we remember the thing Nazis.
Speaker 2: But on the question of totalitarianism, put aside your polypide
Speaker 2: class his three book version of totalitarianism and harken your
Speaker 2: ear if you would to one Michael Schellenberger, Michael will
Speaker 2: start with sixty five and go from there.
Speaker 4: These results are nothing short of a massive political realignment
Speaker 4: that should put to bed once and for all the
Speaker 4: corrosive myth that Trump's coalition is driven by white supremacy
Speaker 4: or fascism. And so, if anybody really wants to understand
Speaker 4: why so many of us, even if we have our
Speaker 4: criticisms of Trump, feel relief and vindication as victory, they
Speaker 4: need to consider that it has more to do with
Speaker 4: the repudiation of totalitarianism than with Trump as a person,
Speaker 4: or even as policies. Wokeism or whatever you want to
Speaker 4: call it, progressivism, identity politics, radical leftism has been rampaging
Speaker 4: through society for roughly the last decade. Literal sometime between
Speaker 4: Occupy Wall Street in twenty eleven and the first Black
Speaker 4: Lives Matter protests in twenty thirteen, seemingly normal liberals and
Speaker 4: Democrats started to lose their minds. Everything became racist, everything
Speaker 4: became suspicious. Nothing was more suspicious than not agreeing one
Speaker 4: hundred percent with the official woke democratic agenda. Trump's election
Speaker 4: put wokeism on steroids, suddenly a word that in the past,
Speaker 4: only extreme radical leftists had used to describe a Republican president.
Speaker 4: Fascist was now being used by very serious people like
Speaker 4: the New York Times columnists, establishment Democrats, and the previously
Speaker 4: sober Foreign policy establishment.
Speaker 2: There's a fair amount more jack unless you want to
Speaker 2: jump in right there. Here's where he really brings it home.
Speaker 4: From news and entertainment media to schools and universities. These
Speaker 4: institutions encouraged and participated in the mass condemnation and cancellation
Speaker 4: of heretics, which became known as the Great Awokening and
Speaker 4: was really a new witch hunt. Ordinary and otherwise decent
Speaker 4: people behaved cruelly. They accused people they had known for
Speaker 4: years or decades of bigotry or racism, or of wanting
Speaker 4: to genocide trans people, or wanting millions to die from COVID.
Speaker 4: Diverging from progressive orthodoxy in any way became enough for
Speaker 4: people to not only end friendships, but to insist that
Speaker 4: the transgressors be ostracized and excommunicated.
Speaker 1: Ah, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Those who had made a great show of being courageously,
Speaker 4: open minded and tolerant became intolerant, incurious, and cowardly. We
Speaker 4: were asked to pretend that the people carrying the pitchforks
Speaker 4: and torches to go witch hunting were in fact well
Speaker 4: intentioned and just cared a lot more than the rest
Speaker 4: of us. They didn't. Behind the tautalitarianism were individuals who
Speaker 4: had given into base motives like hedonism, envy, dogmatism, self righteousness, prejudice, snobbery, psychopathy.
Speaker 4: Reconciliation is the higher road than revenge. But such reconciliation
Speaker 4: cannot occur until we confront the lies and reveal the
Speaker 4: full truth of the tatalitarianism that we all just went through.
Speaker 4: We must not let the abusers gaslight us into thinking
Speaker 4: that what occurred was anything other than abnormal.
Speaker 2: The point being, there was great energy on the left,
Speaker 2: and a lot of you have suffered for it, materially
Speaker 2: in punishing anyone who dared dissent on a variety of topics,
Speaker 2: A wide variety of topics, not vehement disagreement, not even
Speaker 2: shouting and wagging fingers.
Speaker 1: But I will ruin you.
Speaker 2: I will end your career, I will dox you, I
Speaker 2: will call your employer on everything from boys and girls
Speaker 2: sports to COVID policy to all of the other things
Speaker 2: he mentioned Me too, going way too far right right,
Speaker 2: and then near's I came across another thread. Jake, who
Speaker 2: is a professor of classics at a university, says, I'm
Speaker 2: fifty three years old. The last four years I'm out
Speaker 2: to the most repressive totalitarian era I've ever lived through.
Speaker 2: This guy's in academia, so he believe me, he knows
Speaker 2: what he's talking about, and he quotes a thinker Noem Dorman.
Speaker 2: If the general atmosphere of fear we live in as
Speaker 2: people who want to speak and live freely, if all
Speaker 2: that change in American society had the fingerprints of a
Speaker 2: particular leader on it, that leader would be a fascist.
Speaker 2: And then they go into a fair amount of detail
Speaker 2: about the fact that, as he says, it was not
Speaker 2: a fascist leader, but a society wide culture of totalitarian
Speaker 2: intolerance that made me watch my words like a hawk
Speaker 2: for half a decade. It was fear of retaliation from
Speaker 2: the left that made me lay awake at night, terrified
Speaker 2: that a student might have misinterpreted something that I said
Speaker 2: in class and initi initiated a cancelation campaign against me.
Speaker 2: It was not a fascist leader, but left doing culture
Speaker 2: of retribution in the face of which tenured faculty and
Speaker 2: college administrators, coward wielded by eighteen year olds that ended
Speaker 2: the career of a colleague of mine because she read
Speaker 2: out loud a word in an anti racist comic book. Yes, students,
Speaker 2: with the complicity of an entire college staffed with cowards
Speaker 2: whose fear was nonetheless rational, actually ended her career for
Speaker 2: reading an anti racist comic book. She must have said
Speaker 2: n word, even though it was in an anti racist book.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It was not a fascist leader, but a left wing
Speaker 2: culture of fear that generated countless whispers among faculty in
Speaker 2: the halls of my college and others. Every professor afraid
Speaker 2: to tell any but their most trusted colleagues about how
Speaker 2: students had stood up in class to accuse them of
Speaker 2: traumatizing or harming them for teaching basic facts or failing
Speaker 2: to teach the subject from the now mandatory ideological perspective
Speaker 2: of Afro pessimism, or of teaching material unobjectionable just the
Speaker 2: year before that was now inherently white supremacist. And he
Speaker 2: goes on quite eloquently about the maoist culture on college campuses. Well,
Speaker 2: that ain't over, like you said, it's the end of
Speaker 2: the beginning or beginning of the end or whatever it is. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and that ain't over on the college campuses.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But and once in a while, I admit I fail
Speaker 2: to give the American people enough credit for noticing what
Speaker 2: I'm noticing. Right. I'm shocked, happily shocked that people were
Speaker 2: onto this, and they might not use the fancy words,
Speaker 2: but they understood, Wait a minute, there's a force in
Speaker 2: our society that's making it impossible to disagree or you
Speaker 2: get punished. And they knew in their hearts. Even if
Speaker 2: again they didn't know the terminology, they knew that was
Speaker 2: ugly and wrong and unfreaking American. Nuff said. Quick word
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Speaker 2: starting to appoint cabinet members, which are interesting look into
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Speaker 2: of the big Trump court cases has had a major
Speaker 2: development today we can tell you about. Also, some people
Speaker 2: are calling this the worst answer in the history of Jeopardy.
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Speaker 1: Stay tuned.
Speaker 2: So I'm starting we are very suspicious of a lot
Speaker 2: of c that go viral that the people did it
Speaker 2: on purpose. You know, you slipped on the ice and
Speaker 2: you had somebody there with a phone and you I
Speaker 2: don't know if you just enjoy the clicks, or you
Speaker 2: think you're going to become an influencer, or what I'm
Speaker 2: wondering about Jeopardy? Now? Are there really this many stupid
Speaker 2: people around? Or has Jeopardy figured out that if you
Speaker 2: have somebody make a Wheel of Fortune? I'm sorry, I
Speaker 2: got the wrong game whee intellectually completely different games. Wheel
Speaker 2: of Fortune has figured out that if you have somebody
Speaker 2: make a really really stupid guess, it goes viral and
Speaker 2: you get more attention for your show. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you ahead of time that the
Speaker 2: solved puzzle. First of all, like every letter was up there,
Speaker 2: but like two, I mean it was basically the phrase
Speaker 2: was up there, and treat yourself to a round of
Speaker 2: applause is the correct answer. And Ryan Seacrest sets it
Speaker 2: up here he's the new host. I'd forgotten that Ryan Seacrest,
Speaker 2: who doesn't have enough money and enjoys being on TV.
Speaker 2: I guess the host of Wheel of Fortune. Listen to
Speaker 2: how a round of applause? Treat yourself to a round
Speaker 2: of applause. Here we go, six.
Speaker 1: Couple of f's.
Speaker 2: I like to buy you, well, you're gonna get three US.
Speaker 1: I like to solve the puzzle.
Speaker 2: Okay, well, let's hear it. Treat yourself a round of sausage.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, that's not it, and then the next person
Speaker 2: solves it because it's all there. But like one letter,
Speaker 2: I do enjoy a round of sausage.
Speaker 1: You know what.
Speaker 2: I might answered that way too, It had been on
Speaker 2: my mind. I don't need applause, I need sausage. Oh god.
Speaker 2: I was chatting with a buddy of mine about the
Speaker 2: escaped monkeys in South Carolina day and he saw news
Speaker 2: report that involves some local who is out hunting and
Speaker 2: saw some monkeys.
Speaker 1: Guy with a fairly thick accent.
Speaker 2: I guess, And my buddy said, and he's not like
Speaker 2: super a media guy, but he said, you could tell
Speaker 2: the guy was really laying.
Speaker 1: It on sick.
Speaker 2: He was trying to go viral. Oh so, so you
Speaker 2: know that's the whole I couldn't believe what I saw.
Speaker 1: You know, that's purposely outrageous.
Speaker 2: I saw the monkeys over there, and I just know
Speaker 2: that they're planning to take over the state.
Speaker 1: Show many monkeys? How many monkeys? He's enough? Right, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're outrageous, right.
Speaker 2: So the people that do that is it just like
Speaker 2: the gratification of getting a thousand likes just among you know,
Speaker 2: or or are they hoping to become up an influencer
Speaker 2: or something A.
Speaker 1: Brand, A brand, I guess.
Speaker 2: I mean, is there nothing join me? I don't know,
Speaker 2: because I got we got this radio show, so I get.
Speaker 1: A tremendous amount of gratification from that.
Speaker 2: So I don't know what it would be like to
Speaker 2: not have that and then all of a sudden have
Speaker 2: something funny on Instagram and you get two thousand people
Speaker 2: see it. Maybe it's very, very pretty heady, it's a
Speaker 2: Russia cool Maybe maybe we'll talk about this more later.
Speaker 2: But Trump is starting to fill out his cabinet. I
Speaker 2: feel like it's faster than administrations have done in the past.
Speaker 2: Have you heard anything about that. I mean, we're at
Speaker 2: a week today, fast and public.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But he named Marco Rubio is going to be a
Speaker 2: Secretary of State, which is I'm happy about, other than
Speaker 2: some of the hedging Rubio is done on Ukraine lately.
Speaker 2: I have a feeling Rubio was angling for this job
Speaker 2: knew where Trump was on it. Although I saw a
Speaker 2: clip from just the other day. This is like two
Speaker 2: days ago. Rubio was interviewed and they got on the
Speaker 2: topic of Ukraine and he said, look, it's a stalemate
Speaker 2: and there's no breaking it being a stalemate. He said,
Speaker 2: the Biden administration, if they were honest with you, what
Speaker 2: they're saying behind the scenes is this is a stalemate.
Speaker 2: Ukraine is not getting that land back. That was the
Speaker 2: argument I was just about to jump in with. So
Speaker 2: how are you going to turn the tide without this point,
Speaker 2: without fully getting invested in the war which nobody's in.
Speaker 1: Favor of, right right?
Speaker 2: Could it be Trump comes up with a truly creative
Speaker 2: solution that grants some of what Putin needs. Warm water, port,
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. We'll have to see, but continuing on
Speaker 2: the current plan doesn't seem to make any sense. The
Speaker 2: Rubio is a heck of a China Hawk, and I
Speaker 2: like that from our new Secretary of State Armstrong and
Speaker 2: Getty