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Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to

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Speaker 1: are a little you know, before we go to the phones, Tom,

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Speaker 1: would you explain that to me? Tom sent me a

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Speaker 1: In six, General Motors brought out touch screen. I don't

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Speaker 1: How can I help Ron? I've got an oh seven

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Speaker 1: So there's there's two number lines in that computer software.

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Speaker 1: So zero is zero, Zero is fourteen point seven to

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Speaker 1: Welcome back an the car doctor and we're here with

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Speaker 1: Gary Wisconsin. Gary, you're still there, sir, I am so.

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Speaker 1: So fuel trim is the idea that zero's a balance, makesure.

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Speaker 1: So fault codes on fuel trim on most vehicles occur.

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Speaker 1: So you know, a lean fuel condition, it's gonna set

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Speaker 1: So you know, looking at just codes all day long,

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Speaker 1: So we want to see where fuel trim is, all right,

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Speaker 1: It's gonna show you more air, right, it's gonna show

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Speaker 1: But an oxygen sensor, which is where part of where

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Speaker 1: All right, where does it go? A good calculated load number.

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Speaker 1: It's sort of like you if they, if they, if

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Speaker 1: especially after that bacon and egg breakfast this morning, Gary,

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Speaker 1: All right, if they, if they did that to you,

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Speaker 1: But you get my point, right, So we can look

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Speaker 1: mode six. Mode six, all right, is you know you

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Speaker 1: ever wonder how do you know when you're getting sick?

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Speaker 1: You ever get sick? You've been sick, right, You've had cold?

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Speaker 1: fault code for lean fuel trim, right. If if a misfire,

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Speaker 1: if acceptable misfire is ten thousand per cycle, Now that's

426
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,040
Speaker 1: too much, a thousand per cycle, all right, and even

427
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Speaker 1: that's a lot, all right. If it's it, If it's

428
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 1: is it going to tell to set a fault code

429
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: for for misfire. No, you may feel it, right, you

430
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 1: may feel it, but it's it's never gonna set it.

431
00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,960
Speaker 1: So if we can look at mode six and start

432
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Speaker 1: to interpret some of that data, we may see things

433
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Speaker 1: that gives us you know, gee, it's not setting a

434
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: fault code for misfire but I've got two cylinders that

435
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: are starting to act up way beyond their normal limit.

436
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: All right, so we don't have to wait for the

437
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,720
Speaker 1: car to break. The other thing I want to talk about,

438
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: There's two more things, and then I'll let you go.

439
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,720
Speaker 1: Is this. This is a variable valve timing engine. This

440
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 1: is a vc T motors a five four. Make make

441
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:45,760
Speaker 1: sure the oil level is correct? All right? Does the

442
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,040
Speaker 1: engine make any noise and he rattles and any ticks

443
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,360
Speaker 1: and he has it does have a chick like it's

444
00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,280
Speaker 1: like a tap it or something like that. Ar okay, right,

445
00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,320
Speaker 1: like a like a sixty three Chevy and pala. When

446
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: you showed up on the date and the lifter was

447
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,359
Speaker 1: tapping in there, her father stuck his head out the

448
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 1: door and go, what's wrong with that thing? Well? You know, um, yeah, yeah, yeah,

449
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: same thing I remember those days. Uh. Make sure the

450
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: oil level is good. You know, we could have we

451
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: could have a variable valve timing issue or or a

452
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: valve control sonoid issue that's affecting engine performance, advancing or

453
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: retarding camshafts incorrectly. Not enough, not enough to set a

454
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: fault code. Again, We're back to everything has a number

455
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: where it sets right, so you know it's it's looking

456
00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: looking for a code, is okay? You know what it's

457
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: like going to the doctor and saying, Doc, I I'm

458
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,440
Speaker 1: losing power. I weeze and I squeeze and I sneeze,

459
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: and you know, I just feel like I just feel terrible.

460
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,640
Speaker 1: But they can't find anything wrong with you. They gotta

461
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: dig deeper. Somebody's gotta dig deeper, maybe beyond your limits.

462
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 1: So you gotta find a real diagnostician. All right, I'd

463
00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: be curious, okay if if this only happens in high gear,

464
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 1: and I'm assuming you mean high gear in overdrive, if

465
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Speaker 1: you step on the brake, if you step on break

466
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: all right and knock knock the trans out of overdrive,

467
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,280
Speaker 1: not high gear overdrive. And the way you're gonna tell

468
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 1: this is cruising along at sixty five, the RPM is

469
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: gonna be a oh, I don't know PM, right, whatever

470
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: the number is. If you tap the brake, If you

471
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: tap the brake without stepping on the gas, does the

472
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: RPM jump showing that it changed that of gear? And

473
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,199
Speaker 1: if at that moment you step on the gas and

474
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Speaker 1: the problem is still there, it's got nothing to do

475
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 1: with being in high gear. It's got to do more

476
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 1: with the engine than the trans If it's the other

477
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,119
Speaker 1: way around, I'm starting to think maybe I've got a

478
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,480
Speaker 1: torqu converter that's not releasing. And now I've got to

479
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: go consider that and look at that. Aren't you sorry

480
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:47,959
Speaker 1: you called? Aren't you sorry you called me? You know, well,

481
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 1: it's definitely the problem is definitely somewhere between the headlights

482
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 1: and the tail lights. All right, uh, you know, but

483
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: it needs it needs a little bit of diagnosing, and

484
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,639
Speaker 1: it needs, you know, to be considered. And like I said,

485
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: just take a look at a plug ug Let's find

486
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: out what did he put in there? Did he? You know?

487
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,760
Speaker 1: I see all kinds of weird things they put in

488
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,679
Speaker 1: performance spark plugs that they bought off the back of

489
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: a catalog somewhere, and they are these are supposed to

490
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: be the best thing since slice bread. You know what.

491
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: Nothing in that vehicle works as good as a motorcraft.

492
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: I put a motorcraft spark plug in that and call

493
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,160
Speaker 1: it a day, and then I'd start thinking about coils.

494
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: But I want to go through mode six. I want

495
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,119
Speaker 1: to go through the rest of it, So, um, do

496
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,679
Speaker 1: those things if I if I've confused you or baffled you.

497
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: By all means, you can listen to the podcast of

498
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: this after the show becomes a reality and about the

499
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,239
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and you know your mechanic can listen to it.

500
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,120
Speaker 1: And I'm glad to talk to you again. By all means,

501
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: give us a call back. All right, kiddo. All right,

502
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 1: you're very welcome, sir. You'd be well and uh eat better? Gary,

503
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I want you a little longer. I want to take

504
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,120
Speaker 1: care of you. So, um, you have yourself a good

505
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: holiday season, be well. Zero nine zero. The car doctors

506
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 1: coming back right after this. What this car is automatic?

507
00:27:55,240 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 1: It's systematic, it's hard, maddic. What's breeze lightning? You know,

508
00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: about five years from now or ten years from now,

509
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: the kids are gonna go, what's a four barrel car?

510
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: They're probably doing it already. Who am I kid? Let's

511
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 1: go and talk to Let's go talk to kennon Vermont

512
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: fourteen GMC Sierra and what's going on here? Ken? Welcome

513
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: to the car doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey?

514
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:31,160
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for handing rock. Welcome. What's going on? Um?

515
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: I was into wheel drive. I was backing in one

516
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: area where it was slippery and the leaves and so

517
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: forth engaged the four wheel drive. It's the turned off,

518
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: UM selection And I went into four will low And

519
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: when I went back out of four whell low, it

520
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: didn't act like it came out, but apparently it only

521
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: came out to four wheel I and the light came

522
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: up went out on the control pan, and shortly thereafter

523
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: I got an error on the dash It said service

524
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 1: four world drive. Did you diagnose or pull any fault codes?

525
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 1: Did you were able to get it out of four

526
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: wheel drivers? It's stuck in four wheel drive or it's

527
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: still in four wheel high? Um? I my scanner will

528
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:22,200
Speaker 1: not pull those codes for transport case right because you

529
00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: have to get into the TC, the transfer case control module. UM. Okay,

530
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: so you know, let's let's let's trouble shoot in the

531
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: dark a little bit. What what this probably is? How

532
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 1: many miles were on this about? About? Okay? Um? And

533
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 1: you have you? Have you taken it back to the

534
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: dealer for any four wheel drive related problems? Have you

535
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: owned the Carson's now since now? No? I haven't. Okay,

536
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: get your hands on GM bulletin p I P. Fifty

537
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: three sixty nine Charlie. I was just looking at that. Yeah,

538
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: service four wheel drive error message and it's it's it's

539
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: Charlie zero. And they're talking about reprogramming the software because

540
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:08,000
Speaker 1: it worked fine up until now, correct, right, you know,

541
00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: it's it's not this is the first time the problems happened,

542
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: you know, I look at I look. Is this the

543
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:19,360
Speaker 1: first time the problems happened? It might have happened another time,

544
00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: but it did reset itself. Okay. Have you tried backing

545
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,000
Speaker 1: up while you've while you're shifting to two wheel drive

546
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: to see if it releases? Yeah, And the problem is

547
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: that the the dial is absolutely dead. There's no lights on.

548
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 1: It doesn't seem to act at all. Okay, So we

549
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,360
Speaker 1: gotta know, we have we have to know why we

550
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: have this message. We've got to get it scanned, all right.

551
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 1: You know, is the transfer case control module offline? Did

552
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: it pop a fuse somehow? You know, over the course

553
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: of the summer. Did an animal chew on some part

554
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: of the wiring harness? And I'm really being obscure here,

555
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: but I'm just you know, thinking of all the possibilities.

556
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 1: Do we have something that rubbed through and you put

557
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,680
Speaker 1: it in for wheel drive, and now it popped the

558
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: fuse and that's why the light is dead. You know,

559
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: there's there's there's a half a dozen reasons why we

560
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: could have this. But I want to also focus a

561
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: little bit on on you know, C zero Pit fifty

562
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 1: three sixty nine, Charlie, because that talks about programming. Any

563
00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 1: time I see programming updates or software updates for the

564
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: for any vehicles controlled area that I'm working on, I

565
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,000
Speaker 1: tend to read that bulletin thoroughly, and you know, could

566
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: this supply? And do I want to get this done?

567
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: And the fault code that they're talking about occurs because

568
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: their concerned the issue was as the vehicle's age, the

569
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: software that's in there was too widespread and it created

570
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: problems just like you're describing where somebody shifted it into

571
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:48,000
Speaker 1: four wheel drive and it's saw a momentary delay or

572
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 1: it did not see correct response verifying that it wasn't

573
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: four wheel drive or the request to come out of

574
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 1: four wheel drive. And they've tightened up the electronic adjustment

575
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: if you if you want to think of it like that.

576
00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: They've they've you know, they've accounted for aging and they

577
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: won't let the fault code occur. The the virtue of

578
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: the fault code being there could be preventing the vehicle

579
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: from coming out of four wheel all right, you know,

580
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: they may be limiting operation there. It's it's the same idea.

581
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:21,640
Speaker 1: If you've ever had a vehicle with drive by wire

582
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 1: where there's no mechanical throttle linkage, where it's all done

583
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: by computer, if it sets a drive by wire fault,

584
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: it will limit and put you in limp mode and

585
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 1: just to get you home. So it's the same thing.

586
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: So the first thing we've got to get we've got

587
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,560
Speaker 1: to get that scanned. We've got to see what's going

588
00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 1: on as far as information, you know what what fault

589
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:42,760
Speaker 1: code is that, and then diagnose it accordingly because it's

590
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: how you drive this. I wouldn't drive it too four

591
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 1: obviously in four wheel drive unless you're on snow and

592
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't think you have that up there Vermont Way yet.

593
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,240
Speaker 1: So UM do those things. If you need more, I'm

594
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: here for you and good luck. Keep me posted. I'm

595
00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: ring any in the car, doctor, I'll be back right

596
00:32:54,920 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: after this. Don't go away second hang, welcome back, run

597
00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 1: any of the car. Doctor. Dodge writes in from Delaware.

598
00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: He says, Hey, Ron, ev Cars and Trucks Way thirty Morris.

599
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: He says, Evie Cars and Trucks thirty vehicle weight increased

600
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: greatly plays into tired design cost and where uh yeah,

601
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,959
Speaker 1: excellent point, right, And then you have to stop to think, so,

602
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: are we're gonna have to use more rubber, different design tires?

603
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 1: You know, what's the cost factor going to be there?

604
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,760
Speaker 1: And um, you know at what return rate and and

605
00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: what accessibility? So you just I don't know. I keep

606
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: coming back to we're we're doing EVS. I you know,

607
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: I don't say it's gonna be a fat but I

608
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna look like they're expecting it to look.

609
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm thinking more and more. Mr Mark Mills is absolutely correct,

610
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: quick to said email, Hey Ron, frustrating problem four Escape

611
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: with two thousand miles has a light that says the

612
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: park break limited function services required along with the lightning

613
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: bolt symbol. Sometimes when I shut the card door, it

614
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: comes on. I took it to the deally. They put

615
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: up on a host. They couldn't find anything. They said

616
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: they do some research. I have an appointment mid December.

617
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 1: This comes to us from Vicky no no, no state

618
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: or town given. Any help would be appreciated. You know what, Vicky,

619
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 1: it sounds to me like there's more of an electrical

620
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 1: problem than a mechanical fault here. I would be scanning

621
00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: this to look to see if the modules that are

622
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: involved in the park control function because that is an

623
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: electronic parking break or an electric parking break. If those

624
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: modules are online and talking, if the computers are down,

625
00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: it's gonna see that as a loss of parking break functionality,

626
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,399
Speaker 1: and it's gonna tell you that service is required. So

627
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,719
Speaker 1: I'm willing to bet that there are fault codes here

628
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,440
Speaker 1: or there's a communication fault with the parking break module,

629
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: and um, you know that's gonna be what you've got

630
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: to deal with. So and this one from Tom writes

631
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: in Ron, I need to delete the OUTO stop function

632
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: on my twenty nineteen Chevy Equinox. I don't want the

633
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: engine to shut off with every stop. How can this

634
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 1: be eliminated? You know what? On Uh, it's getting harder

635
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: and harder if the vehicle manufacturer doesn't allow it. There

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Speaker 1: are some kids coming into the marketplace that are doing it,

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Speaker 1: that are putting the vehicle into a false state. So

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Speaker 1: that it won't happen. You've got to do a research

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Speaker 1: for it because it's on an individual vehicle manufacturer making

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Speaker 1: model basis. There's no flat way simple way to do

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Speaker 1: it on every vehicle, So you gotta do a little

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Speaker 1: bit more homework until the next time. I'm Rondini in

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Speaker 1: the car doctor, reminding you the mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless.

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Speaker 1: See you