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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle.

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Speaker 2: I am Ryan Warmley, joined us always by Mike Mayer.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday, April eighteenth. We are a few weeks

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Speaker 2: into this season and this is our weekly fantasy baseball

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Speaker 2: podcast here a Fantasy Pros. Of course, everybody can still

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Speaker 2: listen to Leading Off every single day of the week,

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Speaker 2: and we are here to kind of give you a

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Speaker 2: look at some fantasy baseball trending topics.

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Speaker 1: Talk to some interesting guests.

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Speaker 2: We've got Brandon tune Up Tuma on later today on

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Speaker 2: this show. He was great talking some prospects and some

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Speaker 2: waiver pickups and some preseason predictions that he'd like to

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Speaker 2: the content, mayor what do you think of get we?

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Speaker 2: You know, we already recorded our segment with Tuma. How

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Speaker 2: is it to reunite with an old friend?

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Speaker 3: It was incredible. It's always good to talk with Tuma,

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Speaker 3: you know, I have you know, we mentioned that like

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Speaker 3: daily like text chain with with me Tuma and Dan Harris,

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Speaker 3: which I actually think started in the leading off days

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Speaker 3: because we started talking like planning it, because like leading

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Speaker 3: Off kicked off with just Tuma and Dan Harris recording

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Speaker 3: episodes like overnight at like two in the morning where

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Speaker 3: Tuma would produce him and Dan would just stay up

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Speaker 3: all night and do like a fifteen minute like solo episode.

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Speaker 3: And then it became like a daily morning show, and

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Speaker 3: I did a couple solo episodes with him, and then

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Speaker 3: I think really planning out the segments was how that

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Speaker 3: like text chain like started and it's just like it's

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Speaker 3: still going today, even though now Tuma's an underdog and

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Speaker 3: Dan Harris has vanished into the ether and I'm still

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Speaker 3: here chugging away at Fantasy Pros doing shows with you,

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Speaker 3: but always great. You know. I got to see Tuma

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Speaker 3: in person a few months ago during draft season in

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Speaker 3: New York. But always good to hang out and talk

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Speaker 3: baseball with Tuma. One of my favorite people in the industry,

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Speaker 3: someone I came up with in the industry, so he's

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Speaker 3: one of my favorite people. Always happy to talk with Tuma.

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Speaker 2: Really smart guy, really fun conversation with him later in

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Speaker 2: the show. So again, I encourage everybody to stick around

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Speaker 2: for that. You make it sound like it's like a

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Speaker 2: slog to talk with me every day and work with

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Speaker 2: me on this show and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: That was that was implied. I was gonna like dig deeper.

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Speaker 1: Into that, we say, did you I infer it?

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Speaker 3: You know, whatever it was, I I'm glad you picked

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Speaker 3: up and I was putting down though, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: Let's let's dive into this slog of a show. We'll

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Speaker 2: start off with riding the bases. As always, you have

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Speaker 2: our kind of first trending topic here, and the question

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Speaker 2: that you pose that I will allow you to answer

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Speaker 2: is what do Ranger Suarez, Tanner Houck, and Ronel Blanco

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Speaker 2: have in common?

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Speaker 3: So those three pictures. What they have in common is

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Speaker 3: they are the only three pitchers this season to throw

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Speaker 3: complete game shoutouts, which is just what everyone predicted at

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Speaker 3: the beginning of the season. Yes, everyone thought these three

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Speaker 3: Ranger Suarez, Tanner Hawk Ronel Blanco, those are going to

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Speaker 2: I can't say that I held that opinion going into

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Speaker 2: the season, but it's certainly been interesting to see Suarez

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Speaker 2: in particular, like Blanco, we talked a bit about after

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Speaker 2: the recent years. Suarez, I did not see this coming

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Speaker 1: He's three, and no era is one seven to three.

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Speaker 2: He's been four starts, twenty six innings, pitch twenty seven strikeouts.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I feel like he's always been quietly solid

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Speaker 3: And yeah, he's just really been you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: So in looking at the game log, it's worth bringing

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: The first two starts of the season were the only

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Speaker 3: He pitches for the Phillies.

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Speaker 2: I'm I was looking at the Nationals and I just

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Speaker 1: I followed it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that was you know why I did this because

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, four starts all against the Phillies

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 2: That was a full on Anchorman, just like reading what

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Speaker 2: say the worst start of those was the one against

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Speaker 2: the elite offense. Is that a consideration for you at all?

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Speaker 3: I mean you're saying the Pirates are not an elite offense.

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Speaker 2: We've already I know, I know I almost wanted to

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Speaker 2: obviously that's been a bit tugging. Yeah, but at least

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Speaker 2: one of the Braves. Clearly the Braves are the best

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Speaker 2: it's my ultimate point.

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Speaker 3: Right, And it wasn't a terrible start, it was fine,

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Speaker 3: and it was the first start of the season. Also,

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Speaker 3: someone to be expected, and like that's that's kind of

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Speaker 3: the point. He's not going to be. And you can

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Speaker 3: even look at like his projected numbers for the rest

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Speaker 3: And so I think it's probably going to be, you know,

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Speaker 2: Are you, like, look, what action are you taking with him?

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Speaker 2: Are you trying to pick him up at any cost

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Speaker 2: if he's available, are you trying to trade for him

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Speaker 2: if somebody else has him, Are you trying to sell him?

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Speaker 2: If you have him, give him the hot star if

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Speaker 2: your main like actionable advice on Suarez?

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Speaker 3: I think if you had to put him in the

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Speaker 3: I don't know that I'm aggressively targeting him. I don't

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Speaker 3: just because he is what he is, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I'd be I'd be fine selling him because I'm not,

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Speaker 3: looking to buy him. I just think he is what

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Speaker 3: is like good. He's like a replacement level average to

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Speaker 2: So of the three starters that you kind of included

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Speaker 1: Like, how would you rank the three?

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Speaker 2: I guess will be my question because we've already talked

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Speaker 2: so like now that We've talked to me about Suarez too.

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Speaker 2: If you had to kind of rank the three in

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Speaker 2: terms of like your belief level in them moving forward,

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Speaker 2: are they fairly close to each other or do you

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Speaker 2: kind of have a clear one, two, three.

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Speaker 3: So I was actually looking up my rankings to see

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Speaker 3: of move them. I have, how the highest, just because,

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Speaker 3: as we've talked before, I've kind of bought into that

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Speaker 3: Red Sox pitching program and we've seen like they still,

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Speaker 3: despite their terrible bullpen and despite their terrible offense, they

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Speaker 3: especially because two of those pitchers are already on the

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Speaker 3: injured list. But we're seeing that different approach. We're seeing,

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Speaker 2: and he's getting a little older, what would you put

437
00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:36,679
Speaker 2: your concerning level at maybe on a scale of one

438
00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:37,240
Speaker 2: to ten.

439
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,720
Speaker 3: It's got to be at least five, and then I

440
00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 3: got to work between five and ten to figure out

441
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,639
Speaker 3: where it is from there. So I think you probably

442
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:46,199
Speaker 3: started the season out of five or six, and he

443
00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 3: hasn't done anything to make you feel better. So that

444
00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,920
Speaker 3: means we're probably pushing closer to a seven just looking

445
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 3: at his numbers. The one good thing is, if I

446
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,240
Speaker 3: remember correctly, I was looking at his stats last night

447
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,560
Speaker 3: at his most recent start. The one thing is that

448
00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 3: his velocity has been kind of down to start the season.

449
00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 3: It was back up higher in his most recent start,

450
00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 3: which is a good sign. You want to see that

451
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 3: back up his You know, He's another fun one which

452
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,640
Speaker 3: we we you look at like the actual numbers versus

453
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,240
Speaker 3: the expected numbers, and sometimes because of the small sample

454
00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,080
Speaker 3: size this early in the season, they're just all over

455
00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:21,480
Speaker 3: the place. And that's one of my favorite things. I

456
00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 3: look at this. So as Era is eight point one six,

457
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:26,680
Speaker 3: his FIP is a four point nine to four. Still

458
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,480
Speaker 3: not great, but you know not eight x FIP is

459
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,480
Speaker 3: four exactly four. Sierra is three point a five. Okay,

460
00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,440
Speaker 3: we're getting better. And then oops, x cra is back

461
00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:37,920
Speaker 3: up to seven point seventy nine.

462
00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,640
Speaker 1: So I was just looking at that.

463
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 3: Oh my god, so a real roller coaster swing. Strike

464
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:50,919
Speaker 3: numbers are okay. The concern is this, you know, we

465
00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 3: already came into the season with concerns about the shoulder.

466
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,359
Speaker 3: He hasn't done anything other than recently the velocity ticking

467
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,320
Speaker 3: back up to kind of alleviate that. The odd thing is,

468
00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:07,120
Speaker 3: despite the early velocity being down, he's throwing his fastball more.

469
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:09,720
Speaker 3: He still throws his slider a ton, but he's throwing

470
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: his fastball more. And yeah, there are concerns. I still

471
00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,040
Speaker 3: feel like maybe he's gonna be Okay. I don't have

472
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 3: a lot to like base that on.

473
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: His last start was his best start.

474
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,120
Speaker 2: It was against the Yankees, and you know, five innings,

475
00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 2: four hits, one earned run, three walks, six strikeouts, So again,

476
00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:34,480
Speaker 2: not like a cy Young level start, but possibly.

477
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 1: Moving in the right to action.

478
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:36,560
Speaker 2: I mean the two starts before that were the two

479
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,440
Speaker 2: ones that are dragging everything down.

480
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,320
Speaker 3: So yeah, and against the good lineup, you know, and

481
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: his second time facing the Yankees, and this time not

482
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,080
Speaker 3: in the little league ballpark that they play in.

483
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, gosmen facing the Blue Jays just really incredible, right.

484
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:51,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, four times already.

485
00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I'm kind of with you.

486
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:57,800
Speaker 1: I am concerned.

487
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 2: It's not a ten out of ten, like you know,

488
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:04,959
Speaker 2: ejected Jack Dejack like terrible situation, but like I am concerned,

489
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 2: And he's probably not somebody unless I'm getting him absolutely

490
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 2: for free that i'd be like trying to buy low

491
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: in a trade on or anything. I'd probably be staying

492
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: away and I wouldn't be selling for peanuts if I

493
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: had him, just because I probably invested a lot in him.

494
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: But if I got a reasonably decent piece back I'd

495
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:28,160
Speaker 2: probably be willing to move him that I would say

496
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: my concern level reaches that point is that the yeah.

497
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 3: And one last thing, one last thing on him just

498
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 3: kind of like scrolling through it. I remember I saw

499
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 3: this last night while I was prepping, and I forgot

500
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:39,880
Speaker 3: to write down the other because I wanted to see

501
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,399
Speaker 3: kind of how the numbers landed once once the new

502
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,400
Speaker 3: star was in there. The one other concerning thing about

503
00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 3: him is that he's kind of a three pitch pitcher.

504
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 3: He's a fast bus slider split guy. And if you

505
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 3: look at his slider movement numbers, it's down, like significantly down.

506
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:01,360
Speaker 3: And when you really lonely lean like two slash three

507
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,560
Speaker 3: pitches and one of those pitches is not what it's

508
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,280
Speaker 3: usually doing, not doing what it is usually supposed to,

509
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,679
Speaker 3: you know what you're accustomed to it doing. That is

510
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 3: not good.

511
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: That's good point.

512
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,160
Speaker 3: Horizontal and vertical movement both significantly down.

513
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: Let's go to Luis Castillo. He is oh and four

514
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,119
Speaker 2: this season. You know when lost record is what it is,

515
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: but oh and four five eight two e ra twenty

516
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: one and two thirds innings, twenty seven strikeouts, one six' six.

517
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 2: Whip he is one of multiple mariners on this list

518
00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 2: of pictures that have been underwhelming to varying, degrees.

519
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,520
Speaker 1: What's your cornstling level on?

520
00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,919
Speaker 3: Him so he is actually Someone i'm buying right. Now

521
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 3: AND i actually wrote him up in this week's version

522
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 3: of THE I guess on the. Site we're calling it

523
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 3: Ten players To Trade now On Fantasy, pros but it's

524
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 3: really a Bi les Cell high, column AND i actually

525
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 3: wrote Up Luis castillo as my bio low AND i

526
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:02,240
Speaker 3: wrote way too, much So i'm not going to read

527
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:03,400
Speaker 3: all of, it but you can go on the site

528
00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,199
Speaker 3: and you'll see it pinned on Our baseball. Page BUT

529
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,680
Speaker 3: i basically, said if you're panicking and Selling Louis, Castillo

530
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 3: i'm your. Guy i'm. Buying and there's a number of

531
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 3: reasons for. It one is that we've seen him do this.

532
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 3: Before you, Know i've come close to rage Dropping Louis

533
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 3: castillo early in the season in the, past SO i

534
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 3: know this feeling all too. Well his expected numbers are

535
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,200
Speaker 3: not all over the. Place his ACTUAL era is five

536
00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 3: point eight, two but all of his expected numbers are

537
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 3: between three and three point, six and one of, them

538
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 3: his EX fib was actually two point eight three swinging

539
00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 3: strike numbers are. Down you don't want to see, That

540
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: BUT i don't have a ton of. CONCERN i just

541
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 3: feel and like he has a really high babbup. Too

542
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 3: his his babbub is four four. Six so if basically

543
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 3: half of the balls you're allowing to go and play

544
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: are going for, hits of course you're gonna have some bad.

545
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: Luck and so BECAUSE i think a lot of these

546
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 3: expected numbers are pointed him being, better and we've also

547
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: seen him do this multiple times in the, Past like

548
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,280
Speaker 3: this is not a relatively new pitcher to the landscape

549
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 3: who we don't have a long track. Record we have

550
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 3: a really long track record of him being very. Good

551
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 3: and we also have seen this multiple times where he's

552
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:10,679
Speaker 3: kind of got off to a rough start or hit

553
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 3: a rough patch and then he's turned it around because

554
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:16,360
Speaker 3: he's very, good and so he's someone that you could

555
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: just leave in your. Lineup you're gonna take your lumps

556
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 3: every now and, then but like when the dust, settles

557
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,240
Speaker 3: you're probably gonna two hundred strikeouts and a good ra

558
00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 3: and double digit, wins you, know despite starting zero to.

559
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 3: Four So i'm not panicking About Luis. Castillo my panic

560
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 3: level is not, zero but it's not anywhere near what

561
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 3: it is For Kevin. Gosman And i'm much more in

562
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 3: the by camp THAN i am for A.

563
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,439
Speaker 2: Gossman, yeah it's boring to disagree with, you But i'm

564
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 2: in total agreement.

565
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,360
Speaker 1: Here, Like i'm.

566
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: So much more confident in him than like A gossman TYPE,

567
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: i especially given the state of. Pitching Like castillo is

568
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 2: a guy that IF i can get any kind of discount,

569
00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,400
Speaker 2: On i'm thrilled to do. So one thing that stuck

570
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,879
Speaker 2: out to me you're looking at some of the pitch tracking,

571
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 2: stuff is he's getting a much more of a percentage

572
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: of strikeouts on his slider this. Season again it's only four,

573
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:09,960
Speaker 2: starts but you know he's throwing His his pitch mix

574
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 2: is roughly the same as it was last. Year but

575
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 2: last year he had twice as many strikeouts on the

576
00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 2: four seamer as he did on the.

577
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: Slider this year they're almost.

578
00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: Identically it's just it's twelve and eleven last year is

579
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 2: one oh five and fifty. One so and again the

580
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 2: percentage usage for those two pitches is the. Same SO

581
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 2: i find that to be somewhat interesting that you know

582
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 2: he's using that more as an outpitch or at least

583
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,080
Speaker 2: more successfully get getting you, know punch outs with that.

584
00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 1: One i'll be curious to see if that.

585
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: Continues the batting average allowed on the sliders one forty

586
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 2: three last year is two thirty. Four the batting average

587
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 2: out on the four seamers slipped last year it was

588
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: one sixty. Five this year it's two eighty. Nine So

589
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: i'll be curious to see kind of what kind of

590
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 2: have thatch pitch usage plays out through the rest of the.

591
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,880
Speaker 2: Season if we see those numbers, continue if he does

592
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 2: up the slider usage a bit or kind of continues

593
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: to save it as you, know put away, Pitch i'll

594
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: be curious to see.

595
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: See what happens.

596
00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 2: There let's go To George, kirby obviously his teammates In

597
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,720
Speaker 2: seattle six six FOUR. Era he's two and two twenty

598
00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,120
Speaker 2: and a third innings, pitched, nineteen strikeouts one three three

599
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,600
Speaker 2: with the walk rate is, low as it is always With.

600
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: Kirby that's you know what he does.

601
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:23,640
Speaker 2: Best strike rate a little or strikeout rate a little

602
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: down compared to last, year but, roughly you, know along

603
00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 2: the same, lines you, know LIKE i, said the era

604
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 2: six six, four the expected era is three four to,

605
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,280
Speaker 2: two which is much more in line with what the

606
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: expected ra has been the last two.

607
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 1: Seasons what's your concern level On?

608
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: Kirby, So i'm it's hard to answer because AND i

609
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: KNOW i have to. Answer you, know that's kind of

610
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: the point. HERE i have to answer the.

611
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 2: Question i'll let everybody. Know you're the one who included

612
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 2: him in this segment.

613
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 3: Too that's, Right AND i you, KNOW i picked kind

614
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: of pitchers with really bad actual numbers and then varying

615
00:28:56,360 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 3: kind of expected numbers for that. Reason we've talked before

616
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 3: about what the problem. Is he just pounds his own

617
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 3: and like you, said walks have not been. Issued he's

618
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 3: only walk two batters in Twenty INA's that's not the.

619
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: Problem he has almost the opposite, problem where he hits

620
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: the zone too much and he needs to start missing some.

621
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 3: Bats and, actually you, know if you if you get

622
00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 3: batters to ze, two one and, two don't throw them,

623
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 3: strike throw them. Something they have to, swing swing out

624
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: of the side of the. Zone At in his most recent,

625
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 3: start it wasn't a huge, uptick but he was doing,

626
00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: that you, know noticeably more with better. Results so you

627
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 3: do want to see that that kind of. IMPROVEMENT i

628
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,920
Speaker 3: was at the highest On kirby coming into the season

629
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 3: just BECAUSE i felt like he was going way too

630
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,640
Speaker 3: high in draft for what he. IS i and what

631
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 3: he is is very. Good i'm not saying. THAT i

632
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 3: just think when you look at the numbers and the

633
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,440
Speaker 3: value and in terms of, fantasy sometimes you get confused

634
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: between like real life value and the fantasy. Value and

635
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 3: he's SOMEONE i feel like is a lot more valuable

636
00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: in real. Life not to say he's not valuable in.

637
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: FANTASY i just think he's overvalued in fantasy to an.

638
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 3: Extent and we, were you, know we were kind of

639
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 3: pricing him in draft season as last year was a step,

640
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 3: in you, know for him to, take you, know in

641
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: his assent as opposed to what is probably his, ceiling

642
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 3: which is what would be my. Guess and SO i

643
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,640
Speaker 3: think you're going to see these numbers level. Out BUT

644
00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 3: i also think you're going to see those occasonal blow

645
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 3: ve starts where he just hits the own too.

646
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 2: Much when you Describe George, kirby the PICTURE i imagine

647
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 2: in my mind is somebody who's like very consistently giving

648
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 2: you like good, numbers like a good fantasy point outing

649
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 2: without a lot of highs and. Lows it actually is

650
00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 2: a lot of highs and lows in terms of how

651
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: it actually plays. Out it's LIKE i roster him in

652
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: a head dead points, league and it's a lot of

653
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 2: like he either goes gets you over twenty points or

654
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:55,800
Speaker 2: he gets you like. Negatives there's not a lot of

655
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: like just eleven twelve point, outings and that's what his

656
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: average ends. Up it's lower right now because it's the slow,

657
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: start but it's not as consistent as you might imagine

658
00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: for a guy with his. PROFILE i mean even this

659
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 2: season he said one great, start one good start that

660
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: a couple of fluke you, know you, know softly hip

661
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 2: balls that just happened to find holes could have become

662
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 2: a great, start and two terrible. STARTS i, mean it's

663
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 2: it is continuing kind of the roller, coaster which is

664
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:28,640
Speaker 2: NOT i don't think of a guy who is really

665
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: accurate and has decent, stuff you, know a youngest sending,

666
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 2: player as being that much of a roller, coaster but

667
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: he really.

668
00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 3: Is, yeah and EVEN i was just scrolling through his

669
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 3: kind of game loge from last year as you were,

670
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 3: talking and even you, know thirty one Starts in eight

671
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: of those starts he allowed four more. Runs so that's

672
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,239
Speaker 3: a third of his. Starts you, know he allowed four

673
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 3: more runs and a few of those were like, five

674
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 3: six or seven.

675
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: Runs, yeah, yeah really really interesting. GUY i am STILL

676
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 2: i have some faith in him moving. FORWARD i think

677
00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: you're probably right to highlight that maybe last year wasn't

678
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 2: a step towards something. Bigger, again it's only four, starts

679
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 2: But i'll be really curious to kind of follow along

680
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 2: and see see kind of how it plays out going.

681
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,640
Speaker 2: Forward we TALKED i think it was last week's show

682
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 2: about our sites rest of season rankings for, pitchers like

683
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 2: who are the aces that are left in? Baseball AND

684
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: i think at the Time kirby was LIKE sp seven

685
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 2: rest of season and it's that was even after like

686
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 2: prior to his good start most, recently and it's just

687
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: like who are you gonna pick? There so, again this

688
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: he's somebody That i'd be happy to have in my

689
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: roster again just given the state of, pitching BUT i

690
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: think it's fair to have some degree of concern, there

691
00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 2: at least as far as like what the ceiling might look.

692
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 2: Like the next picture pitcher Is Jesus lozardo oh in

693
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 2: two seven six five e R, a twenty innings, pitch

694
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 2: twenty one, strikeouts one fifty five.

695
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: Whip he's made four starts this.

696
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 2: Season, man just a talented guy THAT i have been

697
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: interested in like almost every year at least to some.

698
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 2: Degree and you, know obviously like was good like last

699
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: year at two ordered strikeouts two hundred and eight to be,

700
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 2: exact made thirty two starts three five EIGHT. Era BUT

701
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: i do kind of feel like there's been another level

702
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: to his game that he's Just i'm surprised hasn't reached.

703
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 3: Yet, Yeah and going back to kind of the The

704
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 3: Marcel A zuna conversation we were just having of how

705
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 3: long he's been in the, year been in the. League

706
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 3: he's still only twenty six years. Old SOMEHOW i would

707
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 3: have guess he had been in the league for like eight.

708
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: Years AND i also can't believe he's been with The

709
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: marlins for three years, already BECAUSE i would have guessed

710
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,360
Speaker 3: like he got traded from The a's like last year

711
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,560
Speaker 3: or you, know and so last year was kind of

712
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: his breakout year that, like you, know you you were

713
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: finally seeing like this is this is the potential that everyone,

714
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: saw but there were still some morets along the. Way

715
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: he still walked fifty five, batters and you, know despite

716
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,440
Speaker 3: striking out two, hundred you, know you would prefer to

717
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: see fewer walks than. That and that's just kind of

718
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 3: who he's, been you, know he has he's one of,

719
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 3: those like one of those fireball lefties who you, know

720
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: sometimes has trouble controlling his stuff because it is so,

721
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 3: good which is kind of the you, know the catch

722
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 3: twenty two of of you, know his. Arsenal but early

723
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 3: numbers not great seven point six FIVE era expected numbers

724
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 3: are all, lower but they're all still between you, know

725
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 3: right around like five or four and a. Half so

726
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 3: that's still not. Great The marlins are. Terrible they're going

727
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 3: to be one of the worst teams in baseball this.

728
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: YEAR i, MEAN i, mean is is he going to

729
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: get seven wins this?

730
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,160
Speaker 2: Season like?

731
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: This this seems so?

732
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: BAD i, mean he got ten wins last year, Somehow

733
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: but The marlins were even were better last year than

734
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 3: they are this.

735
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: YEAR i.

736
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: THINK i think it's also AND i keep doing, this

737
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: but particularly with pitchers early in the, season the sample

738
00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:04,680
Speaker 2: size is four games he, said you, know two okay,

739
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 2: starts you, know two runs at five innings three runs

740
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 2: and five and the third he had eight strikeouts and

741
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: one of those five in the other you, know two

742
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 2: walks in each of, those so they're. Fine and last

743
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: two starts are really where the era his balloon came

744
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 2: against The yankees and The, braves so worth pointing that,

745
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:23,440
Speaker 2: OUT i, think, Yeah and.

746
00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 3: That's, fair and he's he's going to be. Someone you,

747
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,080
Speaker 3: Know i'm not scrolling through his game life from last,

748
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 3: year BUT i would bet if you did the same

749
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 3: thing that you did With George, kirby you're gonna see

750
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 3: the same roller coaster of a really good starts and

751
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: then some not so good. Starts he has the. Stuff

752
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 3: he's still pretty.

753
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: Young but VERY i would, say have the guys we've

754
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 2: talked about so. Far my concern level on him is

755
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,320
Speaker 2: higher than anybody except for Maybe.

756
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: Gossman.

757
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: YEAH i think that's. Fair, yeah despite how NEGATIVE i

758
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 3: sound On George, KIRBY i do still think he's very.

759
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:00,439
Speaker 3: GOOD i just probably think he's less good than other people.

760
00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: Think let's go to the last picture we wanted to

761
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: talk about. Here Joe.

762
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: Musgrove we talk a, Lot we have a lot of

763
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 2: fun looking at stack cast pages that are very very.

764
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 2: Red this is very very very blue is EXPECTED era second.

765
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 2: Percentile it's eight oh eight expected batting average three forty.

766
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 2: Eight that's first, percentile, which as a, reminder is quite.

767
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,480
Speaker 2: Bad it is there's not a single red on. Here

768
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,480
Speaker 2: it is like dark, deep like bottom of the ocean.

769
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,480
Speaker 2: Blue he's two into six two NINE. Era it's gonna

770
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 2: be five stars this. Year twenty four and a third,

771
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 2: innings twenty, strikeouts one seven seven whip and really like

772
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: it's all been, Bad like There's i'm not sure maybe

773
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,280
Speaker 2: you have one that in your prep you stumbled. ACROSS

774
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 2: i don't see any numbers that make me, say, oh

775
00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 2: here's the one thing to point to that it's actually

776
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 2: been good or it could get.

777
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 1: Better it's been. FLUKE i, mean it's it's been pretty

778
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: abysmal across the.

779
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 3: Board, no quite the OPPOSITE i was looking. At i've

780
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,120
Speaker 3: spent a lot of time on like the expected statistics

781
00:37:09,239 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: leaderboard on, stackcast just to play around see WHAT i can.

782
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 3: Find you, know someone really out out, overperforming, underperforming and

783
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 3: his his numbers were all just just. Terrible he's he

784
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: has despite his you, know he's pretty ROUGH ra his

785
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 3: EXPECTED ras even whereas he has one of the he

786
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 3: has a top ten worst expected ras in. Baseball even

787
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,359
Speaker 3: you know you described his stackcast, page it's all a little.

788
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: Blue even his like fifth percentage in the, middle that's

789
00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 3: sixty first. PERCENTILE i feel like that should be kind of,

790
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: red but it's so it's surrounded by so much blue

791
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: THAT i almost feel like they just faded. It they're,

792
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,320
Speaker 3: like we don't really care that this should probably be.

793
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: Red it's like an optical illusion where you look at

794
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:51,919
Speaker 2: a color and it like tricks you into thinking there's

795
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,959
Speaker 2: other colors, Around like you're not allowed to have red

796
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: on his stackcast.

797
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: PAGE i almost feel like someone At baseball went in

798
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 3: and was, like let's fade this a little bit so

799
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: that no one really pays attention to this fifth percentage

800
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 3: because we'll look at all this. Blue, yeah, yeah there's

801
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 3: not a WHOLE i, mean, LIKE i want to be

802
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 3: optimistic BECAUSE i do Like Joe, musgrove But i've liked

803
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 3: him in the. Past, yeah last, season only ninety seven,

804
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 3: innings ninety seven, strikeers ninety seven. Innings you, know good,

805
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,799
Speaker 3: era but you still you only got ninety seven innings

806
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,919
Speaker 3: out of him the year before the two years before

807
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:32,320
Speaker 3: that very. Good AND i don't really know what happened.

808
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 3: HERE i don't know what's going on or why it's so.

809
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 3: Bad BUT i, don't like you, SAID I i like

810
00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 3: to look for reasons that it should get, better AND

811
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: i don't really see. Why the one big change he's,

812
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 3: made he's throwing his slider a ton, more and it's.

813
00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: Not AND i was expecting to, see, like, oh like

814
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 3: his his slider has jumped from fourteen percent usage to

815
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 3: up over twenty three, percent so almost like an eight

816
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: to ten percent, Jump AND i was expecting to see

817
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 3: like really bad numbers when when looking at the, Results

818
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: but not the. Case his sliders made his best. Pitch

819
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 3: he's got a two hundred batting average and expect the

820
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: batting average a one ninety. Nine so that's maybe throw it,

821
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,320
Speaker 3: more keep throwing more, sliders and stop throwing all of

822
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 3: your other pitches that are not doing as. Well because his,

823
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,759
Speaker 3: slider his slider batting average is two. Hundred his other

824
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: pitch is curveball three, thirty and this is a batting

825
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 3: average his curveball three thirty, three, four seamer three eighty,

826
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 3: five cutter four, hundred change up three sixty four sinker five.

827
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 3: Hundred definitely stop throwing the. Sinker let's start by cutting

828
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: out the sinker it, is and maybe maybe get rid

829
00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,759
Speaker 3: of the cutter. Too just throw that slider more and

830
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 3: cut down on the other.

831
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: Ones the, cutter as stack cast, identifies it is actually

832
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: doubled its whiff, rate so maybe that's why he's throwing it,

833
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 2: more even though when when they're making contact it's going.

834
00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 2: Well the whiff rate went from thirteen percent to twenty seven,

835
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: percent so that's something on the. CUTTER i, mean it

836
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 2: really kind of scrape in the bottom of the barrel

837
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: here With Joe. Musk so let me ask you this

838
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 2: make it? Actionable are you dropping him because he been this? Bad,

839
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 2: No if you're in a shallow, league like think about

840
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,759
Speaker 2: our work, league it's very shall you only have three

841
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: bench spots and it's daily lineups league like, that are

842
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:23,239
Speaker 2: you still holding on?

843
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: Him that's probably the threshold where we only have three bench?

844
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 3: Spots not at what do we have like five pitching

845
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 3: spots like we and two of them are leavers.

846
00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:36,840
Speaker 2: Or it's five starting pitching spots and two relief spots or,

847
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,400
Speaker 2: no it's like three two and two or.

848
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:40,399
Speaker 1: Something but you can start with five starting.

849
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 3: Pitchers, yeah, YEAH i mean that's probably where you get

850
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 3: to threshold Where i'm, close just because BUT i don't.

851
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 3: Know he still has he's he can still be so.

852
00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 3: GOOD i feel LIKE i need to see one to

853
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: two more starts BEFORE i pull the trigger on dropping.

854
00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 3: Him but if if we get one to two more

855
00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 3: starts and he doesn't look at least like he's trending

856
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 3: in the right, direction AND i can start to see

857
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 3: something more actionable, here then then you probably have to to.

858
00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 2: Drop i'm gonna go, first and THEN i want you to.

859
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: Go But i'm gonna rank these five guys in order

860
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: of most concerned the. Least musgrove is, one because he's

861
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 2: the Guy i'm most willing to consider dropping in the right.

862
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 2: FORMAT i would Say cosmin's probably, two just because they

863
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:24,239
Speaker 2: had the injury, stuff you, know kind of element to

864
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: it mixed. In but it's really close Between gosman And.

865
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: Lozardo that's kind of tier two for. Me if Mus

866
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 2: Grove's tier, one and Then kirby, four and Then castillo

867
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: least concern what do you.

868
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 3: THINK i Think i'm. Closer i'm gonna go in the opposite.

869
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 3: Direction least. Concerned i'll Go castilla and then Probably George

870
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 3: kirby just BECAUSE, i you, KNOW i think he's going

871
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 3: to be what he. Is Then i'd probably Go, musgrove Then,

872
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 3: lizardo Then. Gosman so it's the same except except For.

873
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 3: MUSGROVE i have Must, grows you have him. Third the

874
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 3: others are roughly the.

875
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 1: Same, yeah, YEAH i think that's.

876
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 2: Fair we're definitely an agreement on those bottom two because

877
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 2: you And, Kirby i'm not very. Concerned let's go to

878
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 2: the last storyline here before getting to our chat With.

879
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 2: Tuma which second Tier orioles prospect off to a scorching

880
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: start is more Legitimate Colton.

881
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,719
Speaker 1: Kowser Or Jordan, Westburg AND i wanted to ask about.

882
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 2: Them because obviously a ton of hype from us included

883
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 2: On Jackson. Holiday clearly we See Gunnar henderson is maybe

884
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 2: elevating to AN mvp type of player at The rutchman

885
00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:35,880
Speaker 2: one of the best catchers in, baseball the elite or you,

886
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 2: Know Grayson rodriguez kind of turning into an ace before our.

887
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,640
Speaker 2: Eyes the Elite orioles prospects are playing like elite guys

888
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 2: or our holiday and still very early on in their,

889
00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: Career kowser And westburg have been a step below those other,

890
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: guys both first round. Picks, Formerly kowser fifth. OVERALL i

891
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: Think westburg was thirtieth. OVERALL i want to, say.

892
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 3: Pretend like you don't KNOW i do the.

893
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: RANGE i didn't remember the exact, number one hundred percent,

894
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:09,439
Speaker 2: sure BUT i did. Know, apparently dy'ved, awesome you said

895
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 2: before we started, recording because we. Talked we've talked a

896
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 2: lot about kind of how much red has been some

897
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 2: of these players stat cast, pages and you pulled it

898
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 2: up before we started. Recording you, go, oh my, gosh

899
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: look how Red westburg stad cast. Pages AND i was,

900
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: like we'll try looking At kowsers and you're, like oh my,

901
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 2: gosh look how red this. IS i, mean it's like

902
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 2: they look like me When i'm out in the sun

903
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 2: too long Because I'm norwegian AND i burned very.

904
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 1: Easily it's, LIKE i don't.

905
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: Thought you were going to say you out on the softball, FIELD.

906
00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,800
Speaker 2: I WISH i hit as well as they did against

907
00:43:36,840 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: major league pitching WHEN i was facing slow pitch softball

908
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:40,800
Speaker 2: with metal.

909
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: Bats david.

910
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 2: AWESOME i, mean just to start With, WESTBURG i believe

911
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: he Leads Major League baseball and win probability. Added currently

912
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 2: he is in three seventeen three seventy NINE obp six,

913
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:58,280
Speaker 2: hundred slugging ops is nine to seventy. Nine his expected

914
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 2: numbers X wOBA you know ninety third, percentile expected batting

915
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:05,600
Speaker 2: average ninety, third expected slugging ninety fourth, average eggs of

916
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 2: VLocity ninety. Six hard hit rate is ninety ninth, percentile

917
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 2: it's sixty two and a half. Percent both With kowser And,

918
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 2: westburg there's a little chase in their, profile some swing and,

919
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 2: miss but it doesn't matter because when they're hitting the,

920
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 2: ball they are impacting. It they are hitting the cover

921
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 2: off the ball when they're actually making. Contact been really

922
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 2: fun to watch just Three kowser's stats real quick before

923
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 2: tossing it to. You you. Know his slash line triple

924
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: slashes four hundred and fourty, nine eight, hundred slugging so

925
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 2: ops is over twelve. Hundred he's got four homers and

926
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:42,279
Speaker 2: three stolen. Bases, again just a whole lot of you,

927
00:44:42,360 --> 00:44:45,320
Speaker 2: know eighty eight, percentile, ninetieth ninety, third ninety fifth on

928
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,719
Speaker 2: all those the same numbers of expected you know data

929
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 2: based on on the balls in, Play SO i, mean

930
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:55,080
Speaker 2: they've both looked really. Good westbrook's twenty, Five cowsers twenty.

931
00:44:55,160 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 2: Four AND i said before the, SEASON I i was

932
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,440
Speaker 2: sung all My orioles fan Friends westburg is my Surprise

933
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: All star this, year and he's lived up to that.

934
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: Billing Yet kowser maybe has been even better and had

935
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:12,840
Speaker 2: slightly better. Pedigree So i'm curious which one do you

936
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 2: think is more legit in terms of what they're doing this?

937
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 2: Season AND i think both have have pretty significantly moved

938
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 2: up a lot of the consensus rankings in the industry

939
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 2: already given what we've, seen but also long, term like

940
00:45:24,080 --> 00:45:26,920
Speaker 2: is there there are so many talented players still to

941
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,719
Speaker 2: come in this farm. System so when thinking about it

942
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: from a dynasty, perspective in addition to just what they've

943
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 2: done this, year you know how locked in are, they you,

944
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,160
Speaker 2: know to these roles because they're because they're hitting like

945
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 2: sixth and seventh in the, lineup sometimes even like seventh

946
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,360
Speaker 2: and eighth depending on the, matchup because there's just so

947
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 2: many good bats in this. Lineup that's typically not the

948
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:48,719
Speaker 2: best recipe for fantasy, success but it doesn't matter because

949
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 2: of just how well they're.

950
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 3: Hitting the. Ball, yeah it must be so hard to

951
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,879
Speaker 3: be you and just have The orioles be so good

952
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 3: and their farm sism is just so. DEEP i JUST

953
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 3: i don't know how you make it through everything it.

954
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: Is i've been looking at these two players SINCE i

955
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,200
Speaker 3: mean obviously been looking at them all, season But i've

956
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 3: been looking at them since you put them in the,

957
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 3: sheet And i've been really struggling to pick one to pick, one,

958
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 3: LIKE i think they both look pretty. LEGIT i think

959
00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 3: they both have some, concerns but relatively minor. Concerns with,

960
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,319
Speaker 3: cow'ser the one concern is that he hasn't been playing

961
00:46:24,360 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: a lot against, lefties but he has been playing against

962
00:46:26,680 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 3: them more. Recently they're kind, of you, know saying he's

963
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 3: earned that, right WHICH i think is. Fair and With,

964
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:37,400
Speaker 3: westburg the main drawback is that The, orioles for some unknown,

965
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 3: reason decided to move their left field fence back five

966
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 3: hundred feet and build a, wall ruining the career Of

967
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 3: Ryan mountcastle in the. Process and SO i think that's

968
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 3: always going to be in the back of your mind

969
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 3: a concern for any right handed Hitting orioles prospect or.

970
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 3: Player so that's a ding Against. Westbrook he already has

971
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 3: full home. RUNS i don't know how many of them

972
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 3: came on the. ROAD i know one came In, fenway

973
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 3: at least one one THAT i saw.

974
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 2: There the most recent one came by toppling The Great

975
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 2: wall Of, Baltimore baltimore over.

976
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 3: There, yeah, YEAH i think they both look pretty. Legit

977
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 3: stat cast numbers are just. Incredible you mentioned they both

978
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,120
Speaker 3: have a little bit of. Chase cowser actually does not

979
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 3: have a little bit of. Chase he's got a ninety

980
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 3: five percent chase.

981
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Percentage he had the, chase but he's striking out a lot.

982
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 2: More his strike out rates over thirty, percent Whereas westburg's

983
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: the reverse where he's chasing but strike out rates actually under.

984
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:38,239
Speaker 3: Twenty, yeah maybe they can just combine and be one

985
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: like elite.

986
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 2: Player i'll take two stud players over one mega. Stud

987
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,600
Speaker 2: and that's what they've been is both two. Studs the

988
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: other thing to think about with, them and this is

989
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:54,399
Speaker 2: more thinking the long, term is The orioles do kind

990
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 2: of have more of a need and outfield long term than.

991
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,520
Speaker 2: Infield you, know, infield you Have, gunner you Have Jackson,

992
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: Holiday Kobe mayo is coming. Soon Connor norby can kind

993
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,280
Speaker 2: of do. BOTH i, mean there's a role For, westburg

994
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,400
Speaker 2: but it will probably be a lot of and this

995
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,960
Speaker 2: might be to his benefit moving around playing, third playing,

996
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: second he can play, short although with Both gunner And,

997
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,800
Speaker 2: HOLIDAY i assume he won't play there. Anymore but you,

998
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: know he'll have multiposition. Eligibility but they on need to

999
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:23,160
Speaker 2: find room for him in the.

1000
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 3: Lineup, cowser, like maybe they'll Trade Ryan mancastle to The Red.

1001
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: Sox AND i, MEAN i think a trade is coming

1002
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 2: at some, point a trade might Be santander and then

1003
00:48:34,680 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 2: that opens. Up it just further solidifies a corner aftfield

1004
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:41,960
Speaker 2: spot For kowser alongside Cure. Stad you know the other thing,

1005
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,600
Speaker 2: too just with the handedness that you touched, on you,

1006
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:47,640
Speaker 2: know it Hurts westburg playing. There but this lineup also

1007
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: has so many lefties that when they face a lefty

1008
00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:54,399
Speaker 2: like he will never ever sit because they just don't

1009
00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 2: have enough.

1010
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:56,600
Speaker 1: Righties and the and The.

1011
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:59,759
Speaker 2: Orioles love a, platoon or at least they love to

1012
00:48:59,800 --> 00:49:03,040
Speaker 2: play the you, know the left handed right handed splits

1013
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 2: so and and in, fact for a lot of their

1014
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 2: players it doesn't actually even play out that. WAY i

1015
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,440
Speaker 2: Think westbrook might be one of. Them who's better against

1016
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 2: righties and. Lefties but the point is he will play

1017
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: in those, scenarios whereas a guy Like kowser like will

1018
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 2: probably sit a, lot you, know maybe not all the,

1019
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 2: time but he will sit against lefties on, occasion especially

1020
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 2: If austin has ever starts. Hitting and but, REALLY i

1021
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 2: just wanted to highlight that these two are like absolutely

1022
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 2: like crushing the, baseball and they're. Young they they do have,

1023
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 2: pedigree even if they've been overshadowed in their own farm. System,

1024
00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 2: like don't don't let that allow you to sleep on

1025
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,200
Speaker 2: them in your fantasy leagues if you if they are

1026
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 2: acquire able or, like whether it's not you, know whether

1027
00:49:45,520 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: maybe you're in a shallow league and they're somehow some

1028
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 2: waivers or more likely if you can like try and

1029
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: include them in.

1030
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: A trade or.

1031
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: SOMETHING i think IT'S i think both are. Legit it's

1032
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 2: kind of the it's hard to pick between the. Two

1033
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,160
Speaker 2: the ultimate answer IS i think both of them are

1034
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:02,560
Speaker 2: going to be average to above average fantasy starters the

1035
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: rest of this year and for the next several.

1036
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: YEARS i, mean is that is that? Fair AM i

1037
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 1: being a? Homer you think OR i think it's reasonable

1038
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 1: based on everything we've.

1039
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,080
Speaker 3: Seen, well you're always being a, homer So i'm always

1040
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:12,800
Speaker 3: gonna say.

1041
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:16,439
Speaker 2: That this show isn't on video so that people can't

1042
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: actually see all my orioles triffinalia behind.

1043
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:22,319
Speaker 1: Me SO i have to remind them verbally THAT i.

1044
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:25,960
Speaker 3: Like To, yeah that's, yeah and you, do so we

1045
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 3: all appreciate.

1046
00:50:26,680 --> 00:50:26,719
Speaker 1: That.

1047
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 3: YEAH i think they're. BOTH i mean they both looked like. Studs.

1048
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:35,439
Speaker 3: Uh the lefty thing is going to be what could

1049
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 3: Hold coowser, back and The Great wall Of baltimore can

1050
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 3: certainly Hold Jordan westburgh. Back it is it is helpful,

1051
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 3: that hopefully from a fantasy, Perspective westburgh does still continue

1052
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 3: to move, around because that's great for fantasy, eligibility especially right.

1053
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 3: Now he's eligible second and, third which are two relatively thin.

1054
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 3: Positions third bases very. Thin second base is not as,

1055
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:01,920
Speaker 3: thin but not very. Deep so and he's still AS

1056
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: i looked last, night he was still available in more

1057
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 3: than twenty percent Of yahoo, Leagues so there's still a

1058
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 3: chance that he's out there on waivers or in your

1059
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:12,839
Speaker 3: free agent, pile and someone with that kind of bat

1060
00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:14,400
Speaker 3: that you can move around hopefully want to see move

1061
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:16,719
Speaker 3: up the. Line up a little, bit but we'll see

1062
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:18,240
Speaker 3: how that. Goes AND i did look at his splits

1063
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 3: your ideas better against the right's.

1064
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:20,680
Speaker 1: Right, Now, YEAH i thought he was one of.

1065
00:51:20,719 --> 00:51:24,000
Speaker 2: Those let, alone they're like batting averages and the, slugging

1066
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:27,040
Speaker 2: like they both have four home runs and multiple, steals

1067
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:32,400
Speaker 2: like they can contribute in multiple, categories and if they

1068
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 2: keep hitting the ball like, this they'll also be helpful

1069
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: in average and you, know scoring a lot of runs

1070
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,919
Speaker 2: in this lineup even where they're, HITTING i, mean there's

1071
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: just a lot to.

1072
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 3: Like and they will seem almost like twenty ten kind of,

1073
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 3: guys like twenty home run ten steel kind of, guys

1074
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 3: which AND.

1075
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 2: I think THAT'S i think that's a reasonable, expectation BUT

1076
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 2: i think the ceiling is even more. SO i THINK

1077
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 2: i think twenty five fifteen is like maybe you're shooting

1078
00:51:58,120 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 2: for the moon a bit with that. Prediction BUT i

1079
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:01,799
Speaker 2: don't think it's off the. TABLE i, MEAN i, REALLY

1080
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 2: I i the only the only here's here's the Way

1081
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 2: i'll wrap it. Up the only the only knocks against

1082
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: them are the theoretical, like, oh, well we don't Expect

1083
00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:14,279
Speaker 2: kowser to play against lefties as, much or oh we

1084
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 2: Expect westbrook to struggle with the left field. Wall what

1085
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: they're actually, doing and again small sample, Size we've said

1086
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,759
Speaker 2: it a thousand. Times what they're actually doing right now is,

1087
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,400
Speaker 2: like there's no knock against it as far AS i can.

1088
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 2: Tell it's it's it has, been you, know looking, backwards

1089
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: like very legitimate and excellent and. Elite looking, forward you

1090
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 2: can make cases against, it but we'll see how it plays.

1091
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,040
Speaker 2: Out i'm really excited about both of. Them let's toss

1092
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 2: it to our conversation With Brendan tuma Of Underdog fantasy

1093
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 2: and we'll be back on.

1094
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: The other, side back into the.

1095
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 2: Cycle I'm Ryan warmley Alongside Mike, mayer and for our

1096
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 2: guest segment this, week we are joined by a former

1097
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,720
Speaker 2: co worker of, Ours Brendan, tuma formerly With Fantasy. PROS

1098
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,440
Speaker 2: i did we ever host of leading off together like

1099
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:02,560
Speaker 2: two and a half years.

1100
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 3: Ago we might have.

1101
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,720
Speaker 4: Did there might have been one or two we were mixing,

1102
00:53:05,800 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 4: in you, know the three of, Us, dan you know

1103
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 4: we're still around at that. Time you, Know joe was

1104
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 4: hopping in and. Out so, yeah kind of a little

1105
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,600
Speaker 4: bit of a reunion episode this. Week, yeah this is

1106
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 4: this is a fun crossover. Episode he is at Too

1107
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 4: Much tuma On.

1108
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,720
Speaker 2: Twitter he is the owner of my Favorite twitter profile

1109
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: pick slash cover Photo combo as an avid player of

1110
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 2: a backyard baseball back in the. DAY i love what

1111
00:53:29,120 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 2: he's got going on over there is over At underdog

1112
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,080
Speaker 2: Now and LIKE i, SAID i appreciate you coming on.

1113
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 1: Here we wanted to to talk to you about a

1114
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: couple of different.

1115
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: Things off the, top, THOUGH i did want to get

1116
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 2: your opinion On Jack lighter and just hear kind of

1117
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 2: what you think about. Him obviously making his debut today

1118
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 2: with The, rangers former top, pick he was a number

1119
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 2: two overall, pick you know a couple of years. Ago

1120
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 2: obviously you know has got THE mlb bloodlines to out

1121
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 2: to picture out Of. Vanderbilt what are you kind of

1122
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 2: expecting out of, him both in his debut but just

1123
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:58,720
Speaker 2: kind of in this rookie.

1124
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,879
Speaker 4: Season it's really interesting because if you knew about later

1125
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 4: when he first got drafted and really haven't thought about him,

1126
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 4: since you'd be, like oh my, god this is an

1127
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 4: amazing pitching prospect about to make his. Debut if you

1128
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 4: followed him closely in the minors the past couple of,

1129
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 4: years you'd be, LIKE i don't want anything to do with.

1130
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,279
Speaker 4: Him you, know he's not the guy he was promised to.

1131
00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 4: Be but then if you look at just his starts this,

1132
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:21,680
Speaker 4: season and you, know there's a lot of people out,

1133
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:24,960
Speaker 4: there And Olance brasdowski has had some good nuggets on

1134
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 4: this about how is his pitch shapes have, improved specifically

1135
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 4: his few starts in twenty twenty. Four so it's a

1136
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 4: little bit all over the. PLACE i am one, where you,

1137
00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 4: know IF i had drafted him in a dynasty. League

1138
00:54:38,560 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 4: mike knows this because we playing some leaves. TOGETHER i

1139
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 4: am not patient with prospects once they start going downhill

1140
00:54:43,719 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 4: and losing, value LIKE i move on. Quickly BUT i

1141
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 4: had reached such a bottoming out point personally With lighter

1142
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 4: that when he, started you, know making waves and just you,

1143
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 4: know his stat lines really started to popping again In

1144
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 4: TRIPLE a this. Season took notice of, that paid attention

1145
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,399
Speaker 4: to the pitch shape. Stuff it's a soft landing. Spot

1146
00:55:03,440 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 4: today we're recording this before he does actually, debut and

1147
00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:09,960
Speaker 4: it is against The, Tigers so, YEAH i think we'll

1148
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 4: learn a lot about him in today's. Start but, AGAIN

1149
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,080
Speaker 4: i would just definitely keep that in mind that it's The,

1150
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,239
Speaker 4: tigers AND i wouldn't go too overboard if if that

1151
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 4: final line is really.

1152
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 2: Good i'm glad you mentioned like the dynasty angle, too

1153
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: because obviously that's a key part of you, know evaluating

1154
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 2: a top prospect and a former top. Pick what range

1155
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 2: would you have him ranked in in dynasty as of

1156
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,719
Speaker 2: right now given the pedigree and then the tough start

1157
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: to The miners career and then maybe kind of bouncing

1158
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:38,520
Speaker 2: back here and now making his.

1159
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,440
Speaker 4: Debut, yeah it's so hard with pictures, too because their talent,

1160
00:55:42,560 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 4: level especially in The, miners can just, change you, know

1161
00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 4: like within a single. Start, again Like, light it was

1162
00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 4: not so ONE i thought would be making his debut

1163
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:52,600
Speaker 4: Before Paul, schiens Before Jackson, joe Before Kate, horton before

1164
00:55:52,719 --> 00:55:55,680
Speaker 4: some of these other guys this. Year so, yeah BUT

1165
00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 4: i guess you, know he's got the proximity, factor like

1166
00:55:58,239 --> 00:56:00,479
Speaker 4: he's literally about to be up right. Now but, again

1167
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,760
Speaker 4: if if this start doesn't go well and it's Against,

1168
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 4: detroit then that'll change. QUICKLY i was pay you try

1169
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,440
Speaker 4: to pay a lot of attention to which you, know

1170
00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:11,239
Speaker 4: top pitching prospects are getting run In TRIPLE a and doing,

1171
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 4: well because those are typically typically the guys that are

1172
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,400
Speaker 4: about to come up. Next Obviously skiings is you, know

1173
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 4: number one on any you, know redraft stash right. Now

1174
00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 4: but for, ME i would still Have Christian scott ahead Of.

1175
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 4: Lighter uh just the. Control he has such a track

1176
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,800
Speaker 4: record of control and improving. Stuff so just to you,

1177
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 4: Know i'm not someone WHO i don't plan, to you,

1178
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 4: know go overboard this weekend With lighter and fab or

1179
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 4: anything like.

1180
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: That i'd rather hold out For Christian scott. Personally what

1181
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 2: do you think about, that mayor what kind of you,

1182
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 2: know claims are you putting in On? Lighter what are

1183
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:49,160
Speaker 2: your expectations, here you, know in his first, season you,

1184
00:56:49,200 --> 00:56:50,080
Speaker 2: know let alone the long.

1185
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 3: Term, yeah WELL i. Agree you, Know i'm happy to

1186
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 3: defer To tuma on most of the, stuff, which by the,

1187
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 3: way you didn't even team me up for any kind

1188
00:56:57,480 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 3: of Like tuma intro or anything. LIKE i go way

1189
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: back With. TUMA i still talk To tuma almost every,

1190
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 3: day and nothing you didn't you didn't even talk To

1191
00:57:04,719 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: it was.

1192
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,640
Speaker 2: My understanding that we were a little bit up against

1193
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: it in terms of, time SO i was trying to move,

1194
00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: quickly trying to help us out, there but if you

1195
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 2: would like to have a delayed intro now as your.

1196
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 1: Chant, no it's all.

1197
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 3: Right i'll just shout out to, uh you, know all

1198
00:57:17,880 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 3: of The Leading off listeners who are listening to the.

1199
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: Show maybe you know They i'm sure they Remember tuma

1200
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 3: who actually Launched Leading off back With Dan harris back

1201
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 3: in the. Day so he's actually Like Leading off as

1202
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:31,560
Speaker 3: like his, baby it's like his you, know his, Child

1203
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 3: so we have to give credit. There mayo.

1204
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 4: Says we still talk every, day but it's a group

1205
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 4: chat With, dan and it's usually Just dan making fun

1206
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,080
Speaker 4: of mostly, me but but also both, US i, believe.

1207
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 3: And us also just complaining about The Red, sox about

1208
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 3: Light On. Lighter you, Know tuma is similar To welsh

1209
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,080
Speaker 3: and then you know he's he's the prospect. Guy he's

1210
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,080
Speaker 3: he does all the deep dives on THESE i have

1211
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 3: said him, BEFORE i look a lot of the. Numbers

1212
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 3: but Obviously Jack lighter is such a big. Prospect i've

1213
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 3: watched him kind of come up and and Like tuma,

1214
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 3: said watched it not go great in the early. Going

1215
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,280
Speaker 3: although the strikeouts have always been, there even when his,

1216
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 3: era you, know In DOUBLE a was like up above,

1217
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 3: five he was still striking out a ton of, guys

1218
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,240
Speaker 3: so you still could kind of see the stuff. There

1219
00:58:13,240 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 3: it's just that like his stuff was just all over the,

1220
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:18,560
Speaker 3: place you, know his control was an. Issue so interested

1221
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 3: to see if he can put it all. Together he's still,

1222
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,400
Speaker 3: young he's still only twenty four years. Old i'm not

1223
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: convinced he's. Ready and you, know we'll see today how it.

1224
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 3: Goes you, know it, is like you, said a good

1225
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 3: kind of like soft landing spot against The. Tigers BUT

1226
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 3: i don't anticipate going, crazy especially in leagues Where i'm you,

1227
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: know kind of like limited in fab on, lighter BECAUSE

1228
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:41,560
Speaker 3: i don't know how long he's going to be, up

1229
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 3: AND i don't know how this is going to go

1230
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:44,440
Speaker 3: the first time.

1231
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:48,120
Speaker 2: Around let's move into our waiver, suggestions and we usually

1232
00:58:48,160 --> 00:58:49,840
Speaker 2: start with the, hitters BUT i actually want to start

1233
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 2: With tuma's pitcher because he you, know briefly mentioned him

1234
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: when talking about some of these minors, guys and It's Christian,

1235
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 2: Scott So, tuma this is maybe a name that you,

1236
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 2: know the the you, KNOW i hard players would certainly

1237
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,600
Speaker 2: be aware, of but you, know for a more casual,

1238
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:07,280
Speaker 2: audience who might be considering him as a stash for

1239
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,720
Speaker 2: redraft or if there's an opportunity to pick him up

1240
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:11,040
Speaker 2: as a kind of keeper or dynasty.

1241
00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 1: Format can you give us a quick breakdown On.

1242
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,919
Speaker 4: Scott, Yeah So scott's a pitching prospect for The. Mets

1243
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 4: he's a little bit. Older he was a reliever in,

1244
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 4: college so he doesn't, have you, know a ton of

1245
00:59:21,120 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 4: miles on his. Arm that that might be one good

1246
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 4: thing and also might mean he's not built up as

1247
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 4: much as you'd. Prefer but he he's a little bit

1248
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:30,919
Speaker 4: of a late bloomer and he's like the reason people, say,

1249
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 4: like you, know don't invest in pitching prospects in dynasty

1250
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 4: because you might, have you, know taken someone Like Forrest

1251
00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 4: whitley or back in the day and you, know used

1252
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,160
Speaker 4: a really high pick on. Them and Here Christian scott,

1253
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 4: comes you, know out of the, blue this pass offseason

1254
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: and it's the spring. Training he's he's always had good,

1255
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 4: control and his stuff is ticking. Up there's a little

1256
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 4: bit of some buzz going on with The mets pitching

1257
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 4: lab and what they've been able to do with a few,

1258
00:59:55,120 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 4: guys other guys and the miners as. Well, AGAIN i

1259
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 4: just look at you, Know TRIPLE a. Leaderboards you know

1260
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,720
Speaker 4: NAMES i recognize from prospect, list who's actually you, know

1261
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,600
Speaker 4: being trusted to go at least four or five innings

1262
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 4: and who's getting? Results And scott uh is just, popping you,

1263
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 4: know especially in the strike up minus walk, apartment which

1264
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: is my favorite stat to look at for pitching prospects The.

1265
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:23,720
Speaker 4: Mets you, Know senga's still. HURT i, Know Jose uto

1266
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:28,120
Speaker 4: might be pronouncing that. Wrong has looked good in limited,

1267
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: action but you, Know Adrian houser was still in that.

1268
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 4: Rotation there's gonna be opportunity for this guy, eventually and

1269
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:37,560
Speaker 4: he is just The remember last year when you, Know

1270
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 4: Bryce miller And Tanner biby And Gavin williams and all

1271
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 4: these guys were coming up and people were spending twenty

1272
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:46,360
Speaker 4: percent of their fab on them after one good. Start

1273
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 4: scott just to me seems like this year's version of.

1274
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 4: That so he's someone that if you do have space to,

1275
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 4: STASH i like getting out in front of and the

1276
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 4: pitching landscape is just so rough That i'm okay taking you,

1277
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,800
Speaker 4: know use a bench spot on a high you, know

1278
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 4: a highly talented arm if it means uh you, KNOW

1279
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,520
Speaker 4: i get that, payoff and it shouldn't be too much.

1280
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 4: Longer is the Reason i'd be willing to. STASH i

1281
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,520
Speaker 4: was gonna ask you about the time.

1282
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 2: FRAME i ACTUALLY i saw you tweet About scott a

1283
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 2: couple of days, ago AND i went and picked him

1284
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,480
Speaker 2: up in two different, leagues one one, redraft one like

1285
01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 2: not true dynasty but kind of a deep.

1286
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: Keeper and SO i kind of got out ahead of.

1287
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 2: It like you're, saying, SO i think that's really, smart

1288
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 2: like assuming that he is, up you, know relatively. Soon

1289
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 2: do you if you had to put a time frame on,

1290
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 2: it would you, say, like you, know the next, month

1291
01:01:32,640 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 2: the next couple of, weeks like sooner or?

1292
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 1: Later what do you?

1293
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 4: Think you can get burned sometimes with you, know trying

1294
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,560
Speaker 4: to stash a little you, know too, early and then

1295
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 4: it ends up being a couple of, months and, it you,

1296
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:43,840
Speaker 4: know wasn't the most efficient use of that roster. Space

1297
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:48,240
Speaker 4: If butto had not done what he ended up doing

1298
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,000
Speaker 4: these past couple, STARTS i, think you, know this would

1299
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:55,520
Speaker 4: Be scott's, spots, Uh scott's spot right. Now but but

1300
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,720
Speaker 4: that being, SAID i still think he's next in line

1301
01:01:57,760 --> 01:02:00,200
Speaker 4: whenever an injury. Happened so you, know if the that's

1302
01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 4: pitching staff just keeps rolling and there's no, INJURIES i

1303
01:02:02,760 --> 01:02:05,400
Speaker 4: don't think they're going to force. Anything but the second

1304
01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 4: you Know Adrian hauser has an il stint Or Cantana minaya,

1305
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: does and something goes, WRONG i. THINK i don't think

1306
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,120
Speaker 4: there's any. Reason there's nothing else Preventing scott from from

1307
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,320
Speaker 4: being next in line for, them particularly In.

1308
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 2: Redraft this is the guy that should be pretty available

1309
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: if if anybody has that roster spot to h maybe

1310
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 2: they had somebody else get, hurt so now there's an,

1311
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: opening or for whatever, reason if you have an opening

1312
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:31,280
Speaker 2: a guy to stash there mayor we'll start with your you,

1313
01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,840
Speaker 2: know storry With olgodi or pitcher here instead of your

1314
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 2: hat or you got.

1315
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 3: Well i'm still recovering from all The Adrian hauser disrespect

1316
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,040
Speaker 3: That tuma just through out. There that man has a Family. Tuma,

1317
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:42,919
Speaker 3: sorry did you say we're going with my? Pitcher? FIRST

1318
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,280
Speaker 3: i Was, YES i was preparing for my, comment not

1319
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 3: listening to what you're.

1320
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: Saying, yeah that's that's all too. Common, yes let's go

1321
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:49,880
Speaker 1: with your.

1322
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,520
Speaker 3: Pitcher So i'm going with the probably the complete opposite

1323
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 3: Of Christian scott And Ronaldo. Lopez and he's not a

1324
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 3: young up and coming. Prospect he's not a very exciting.

1325
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:04,120
Speaker 3: Name he is off to a very good. Start you,

1326
01:03:04,200 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 3: know he has a zero point five e. Er he's

1327
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,200
Speaker 3: as eighteen strike as in eighteen. Innings they're. Braves you.

1328
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 3: Know he hasn't really been a starter for a, while

1329
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 3: so you know this he did, start you, know several years,

1330
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,040
Speaker 3: ago but for the most, part he's kind of been

1331
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 3: like a relievers swing, swingman kind of a kind of a.

1332
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,040
Speaker 3: Pitcher so he doesn't have a ton of, innings so

1333
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: we'll see how long he's you, know one how long this,

1334
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 3: lasts and two kind of how many innings he's able to.

1335
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 3: Go so this is more of a short term pick,

1336
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:33,600
Speaker 3: up especially because he does have two starts this. Week

1337
01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: he has two starts against The marlins and The, guardians

1338
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 3: so two not terrible, matchups one really good, matchup and

1339
01:03:39,080 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 3: one matchup that's.

1340
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: Fine, no why did you Pick why didn't you pick

1341
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: him for our two start.

1342
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: Competition well we'll get into that later later in the,

1343
01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:51,040
Speaker 3: show don't spoil. It, yeah but, no he's he's not

1344
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,160
Speaker 3: like an exciting, name but you, Know we've talked a

1345
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,520
Speaker 3: bunch on this show already about the state of pitching

1346
01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,160
Speaker 3: and just how awful it is out. There and right,

1347
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,400
Speaker 3: now he's someone who's pitching well and he seems. Reliable

1348
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,120
Speaker 3: he's on a good, team and he's you, know he's

1349
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 3: striking out a batter per, inning which is something he

1350
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 3: has done in his. Career and SO i don't expect

1351
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:09,800
Speaker 3: him to be a league, winner but if you need,

1352
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,040
Speaker 3: pitching LIKE i, do in a lot of, leagues he's

1353
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,000
Speaker 3: a fine pickup and he's available in a lot of

1354
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:14,520
Speaker 3: leagues right.

1355
01:04:14,520 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 1: Now, tima what are your quick thoughts On Rnado.

1356
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:20,840
Speaker 4: LOPEZ i think one fallout of the Terrible Spencer strider

1357
01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,160
Speaker 4: injury news is that it does make The braves a

1358
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,280
Speaker 4: little more reliant on Keeping lopez in the rotation for

1359
01:04:26,600 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 4: a little while, longer so you, know any concern like

1360
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 4: he might not last all season, long but he's definitely

1361
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,040
Speaker 4: a little more insulated now than he was before The strider.

1362
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,479
Speaker 4: Injury and, yeah the wins thing is a great. Point

1363
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,960
Speaker 4: like you, know sometimes we don't talk if you play

1364
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 4: in a wins. League sometimes we don't talk enough about

1365
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,760
Speaker 4: wins and we just focus on pitcher, skills but you,

1366
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 4: know pitching for The braves is a good place to.

1367
01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,800
Speaker 1: Start let's stay with you, too for your favorite hitter

1368
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,919
Speaker 1: to pick up on waivers this. Week, yeah SO i had.

1369
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,440
Speaker 4: To show some love to the to The orioles phantom

1370
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 4: on this, podcast and.

1371
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 3: Don't show too much because we get enough of it

1372
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:58,040
Speaker 3: every single.

1373
01:04:58,080 --> 01:04:59,080
Speaker 4: Week it.

1374
01:04:59,240 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 1: IS i.

1375
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,280
Speaker 4: Am i'm A Red sox, fan BUT i got The

1376
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 4: orioles have a place in my heart right. Now they

1377
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 4: are so fun to. Watch, yeah And i'm not going

1378
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 4: with one of their young hitting young. Hitters i'm going

1379
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 4: with one of their older hitters In ryan, O'Hearn and

1380
01:05:12,680 --> 01:05:15,560
Speaker 4: he's becoming a little bit, popular you, know on Baseball

1381
01:05:15,600 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 4: twitter and, whatnot because if you just type, in you,

1382
01:05:18,360 --> 01:05:21,120
Speaker 4: Know ryan O'Hearn baseball, savant do yourself a favor and

1383
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:25,439
Speaker 4: just brace yourself for the sea of red that's gonna

1384
01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 4: explode onto your computer screen because he, is you, know

1385
01:05:29,040 --> 01:05:33,360
Speaker 4: absolutely scolding the. Ball so far this, year The orioles

1386
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:38,000
Speaker 4: are They They they've had some success with not just

1387
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 4: with drafting and developing you, know top, prospects but with

1388
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 4: having helping with some you, know mid career turnarounds and you,

1389
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:49,160
Speaker 4: Know Mike, elias the general. Manager it comes from The.

1390
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 4: Astros they had a lot of success in a similar.

1391
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 4: Thing So i'm, not you, know writing this off as

1392
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 4: something that's you, know just Gonna Ryan oharn's gonna revert back,

1393
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 4: to you, know twenty twenty One Royals ryan O'Hearn and

1394
01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 4: we'll never hear from him. Again at the same, TIME

1395
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 4: i don't want to get too carried away because, yeah

1396
01:06:06,320 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 4: he's leading baseball and EXPECTED, wOBA but he's not playing

1397
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 4: against left. Handers he's yet to start against a lefty

1398
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 4: AND i think he only has one total plate appearance

1399
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 4: against a. Lefty and you, know if you play in

1400
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 4: a weekly league and The orioles face three lefties in a,

1401
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,439
Speaker 4: week that just makes it really really. Hard but, yeah,

1402
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 4: OTHERWISE i do find hitters are tough to find on the,

1403
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,360
Speaker 4: wire you, know especially you, know potential rest of season.

1404
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 4: Options it's it's easy to, stream you, know a single

1405
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 4: outfield spot for someone who gets a corps matchup or.

1406
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 4: Something but, yeah, yeah but to, find you, know consistent

1407
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 4: hitters on the waiver wire that are going to stick

1408
01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 4: in your lineup all season, long that's a little. Tricky

1409
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,600
Speaker 4: but o'hearan looks like he has the, upside and you,

1410
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 4: know at worst he's going to be on a strong

1411
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 4: side platoon in the middle of one of the best

1412
01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 4: lineups in, baseball.

1413
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,760
Speaker 2: And against all, logic they do occasionally put him out

1414
01:06:56,760 --> 01:07:00,200
Speaker 2: in right fields In. Baltimore and so for whatever that's,

1415
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,280
Speaker 2: worth if that helps you in your league setting or

1416
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,560
Speaker 2: given the state of your, roster that's eligibility that he might,

1417
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 2: add you, know during the. Season you, know going into this,

1418
01:07:08,240 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 2: YEAR i spoke a lot with my Fellow orioles fan

1419
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:14,000
Speaker 2: friends about how LIKE i was ready to just kind

1420
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 2: of trade.

1421
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,040
Speaker 1: Him, hey he had a pretty nice year last.

1422
01:07:16,080 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: Year there's so many guys in the miners like Here

1423
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 2: stad and you, Know Kobe, mayo just all these like

1424
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: power hitting options THAT i want to see In. Baltimore

1425
01:07:23,360 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 2: SO i was like fully on board to trade him

1426
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:28,720
Speaker 2: Trained and you, know THE bada ball profile last year wasn't,

1427
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,360
Speaker 2: awful but it WASN'T i mean last year there's like

1428
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 2: a couple of rows of red and that stat cast

1429
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 2: page this year to your point one hundred percentile and

1430
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: next one hundred percentile expected batting, average hundred percentile expected.

1431
01:07:40,600 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 2: SLUGGING i, mean it's in ninety fourth percentile average exit

1432
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:45,360
Speaker 2: velocity going down the.

1433
01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:49,840
Speaker 1: List it's. Ridiculous so he has looked, really really good this.

1434
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 2: Season mayor everybody knows that you're a fan of the

1435
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: Other orioles first, Baseman but can you say anything nice

1436
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:56,680
Speaker 2: about O'Hearn as?

1437
01:07:56,720 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 3: WELL i can say, that you, KNOW i did exactly

1438
01:08:00,920 --> 01:08:04,560
Speaker 3: What tuma said and Googled ryan O'Hearn baseball savant and

1439
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: pulled it up while he was, talking and it's exactly

1440
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 3: what you. Said it's not just, right it's just a

1441
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:12,880
Speaker 3: sea of dark. RED i actually almost wrote him up

1442
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:15,520
Speaker 3: as my cell high this, week not not to throw you,

1443
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:19,160
Speaker 3: know water on, it just because of What tuma said

1444
01:08:19,160 --> 01:08:20,880
Speaker 3: that he isn't playing against lefties and that you, know

1445
01:08:21,000 --> 01:08:24,840
Speaker 3: everything looks, great but there are going to be those

1446
01:08:24,880 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: weeks where he's playing against three lefties and and you

1447
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,519
Speaker 3: know that is going to cap his his overall value

1448
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 3: and so and like what like we've, said you, know

1449
01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 3: the last couple of, weeks like cell high doesn't mean,

1450
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,680
Speaker 3: Bad it just means maybe you can get more for

1451
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 3: him than he's potentially. Worth and that's WHAT i think he.

1452
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:42,040
Speaker 3: IS i think he's really, good AND i think he's

1453
01:08:42,040 --> 01:08:43,720
Speaker 3: a good. Story he's also hitting in the middle of that,

1454
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,560
Speaker 3: lineup which is incredible given how deep that lineup. Is

1455
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 3: so he's a cell high for me from that. Perspective but,

1456
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:52,960
Speaker 3: also like Like tuma, said if you're in a daily

1457
01:08:53,040 --> 01:08:54,760
Speaker 3: league and you can pick your spots with, him like he's,

1458
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:57,519
Speaker 3: perfect and you, Know i'd like to have more of

1459
01:08:57,640 --> 01:09:00,439
Speaker 3: him in those dynasty leagues that too much talked, about

1460
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 3: SO i, could, like you, know mix him in where

1461
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 3: that outfield eligibility would be really beneficial to me BECAUSE

1462
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:06,519
Speaker 3: i need ut filters in a lot of my dynasty.

1463
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 4: Leagues he's dual eligible as, well and you know it's

1464
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 4: when his first place. Outfield you can also put him

1465
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,720
Speaker 4: at corner infield if you play in a play in

1466
01:09:14,760 --> 01:09:16,800
Speaker 4: a league with that position and. Everything so there's a

1467
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 4: lot AND i think what you said is like the

1468
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 4: fact that it's like one hundred percent time we're talking

1469
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 4: about is huge because that means if he, does if

1470
01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:25,559
Speaker 4: and when you, know he does come back to earth

1471
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,840
Speaker 4: a little bit like it might not be you know

1472
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 4: to the point where he's, Unusable and, yeah that's what

1473
01:09:31,160 --> 01:09:33,479
Speaker 4: makes it really you, know stand out for him because

1474
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 4: when you reach that point you just can't ignore it.

1475
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:39,400
Speaker 2: Eventually, YEAH i was gonna, SAY i haven't looked At

1476
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 2: ronald McCune's twenty twenty three stat cast data, recently BUT

1477
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,320
Speaker 2: i can't imagine it's redder than. THIS i, mean this

1478
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:49,080
Speaker 2: is this is insane from or the other. Thing i'll

1479
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: shout out to him before we move on the k.

1480
01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: Rate you, know he struck out over twenty two percent

1481
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:56,439
Speaker 2: of the time last, year which was his previous career.

1482
01:09:56,600 --> 01:09:58,920
Speaker 1: Low this year it's under ten. Percent it's a nine

1483
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: point six right, now so it's.

1484
01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:03,640
Speaker 2: Early but you, know in addition to really impacting the

1485
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 2: ball when he's, swinging he's he's not striking out as much,

1486
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:09,640
Speaker 2: either mayor wrap us up in the waivers section with

1487
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 2: your favorite.

1488
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 3: Hitter so my favorite, hitter and this is this is

1489
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:14,600
Speaker 3: a dart throw and it's someone you, know again That

1490
01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 3: tuma might know more, about because you know he's he's

1491
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 3: the prospect. Guy but It's andy Pah hez and it's

1492
01:10:20,200 --> 01:10:23,760
Speaker 3: spelled pages but it's apparently pronounced Pa. Hez SO i

1493
01:10:23,840 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 3: hope we're not like headed down like A Jordan Jordan

1494
01:10:26,479 --> 01:10:28,680
Speaker 3: alvarez situation where it just goes back and forth every.

1495
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 3: Year but that would mean that he sticks around if

1496
01:10:32,040 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 3: we're still talking about. It so hopefully that's the. Case

1497
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,880
Speaker 3: but this is someone The dodgers just called him up

1498
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 3: because you, know they need help in the. Outfield he

1499
01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 3: was off to a really good start In TRIPLE. A

1500
01:10:42,600 --> 01:10:45,920
Speaker 3: five home runs in fifteen, games batting three seventy. One

1501
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 3: he's always been kind of an on base power guy

1502
01:10:49,280 --> 01:10:51,200
Speaker 3: throughout his throughout his minor league, career which is really,

1503
01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 3: intriguing especially in those dynasty. Leagues we've talked about where

1504
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 3: a lot of those dynasty leagues are on base percentage or.

1505
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:59,719
Speaker 3: Ops we'll see how it. Goes you, know he didn't

1506
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 3: get Off it's only been two, games but he didn't

1507
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:03,719
Speaker 3: get off to a scorching hot start with The, dodgers

1508
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 3: and he's going to batt low in the lineup for

1509
01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:07,600
Speaker 3: a little. While BUT i do think he has the

1510
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,719
Speaker 3: kind of approach where he can have some staying power

1511
01:11:10,800 --> 01:11:14,760
Speaker 3: and if he staying power and actual, power and so

1512
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 3: if he can kind of stick around in that really good,

1513
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,080
Speaker 3: lineup maybe he gets you, know gets off to a

1514
01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:21,120
Speaker 3: bit of a hot, start moves up in that lineup

1515
01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,800
Speaker 3: to like fifth or. Six now you're batting fifth or

1516
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:25,760
Speaker 3: six in one of the better lineups in, baseball and

1517
01:11:25,880 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 3: you have. Power LIKE i, said it's kind of a dart.

1518
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 3: Throw i'm definitely you, know picking him up in a

1519
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 3: bunch of leagues WHERE i can and just seeing how

1520
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 3: it goes for a couple of, weeks because he is

1521
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,559
Speaker 3: he does have the kind of ceiling where he can

1522
01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:41,120
Speaker 3: really really help your team down the road and if

1523
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 3: it doesn't work, out you just drop him in two.

1524
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 1: Weeks, tuma what do you think about? Him both for

1525
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 1: read draft and For.

1526
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 4: Dynasty, YEAH i was just actually before we started, recording

1527
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 4: reading A fangrafts article about The dodgers outfield and just

1528
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:53,679
Speaker 4: how like how rough it's been to start the. Season

1529
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 4: so like you, said that there's opportunity there for, him

1530
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,719
Speaker 4: and he did, have you, know a really bad shoulder

1531
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 4: injury last. Season the miners that that ended his year

1532
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,559
Speaker 4: early and your shoulders with hitters always scares me a little.

1533
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 4: Bit but later but it's not you, know it doesn't

1534
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:10,200
Speaker 4: mean it's a death sentence for guys and and, yeah,

1535
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,680
Speaker 4: so but because The dodgers outfield has been you, know,

1536
01:12:12,840 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 4: underperforming you know as as a, whole you, know outside

1537
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:18,800
Speaker 4: Of Ti Oscar, UH i think there's gonna be. OPPORTUNITY

1538
01:12:18,840 --> 01:12:21,800
Speaker 4: i would pay really close attention to the playing time

1539
01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 4: the next few, days you, know if you're whatever day

1540
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 4: your waivers run or the time you would need to

1541
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 4: put him in your. Lineup if he's played every day

1542
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,320
Speaker 4: up until that, POINT i think that makes a huge.

1543
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 4: Difference BUT i just mentioned that because sometimes you know The, Dodgers,

1544
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 4: uh we'll mix a match a little bit. More and

1545
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:40,680
Speaker 4: if he only, starts you, know three out of six,

1546
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 4: games and then it's probably not you, know a weekly

1547
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:46,000
Speaker 4: play just. Yet But i'm interested because you, know last

1548
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 4: YEAR i was not in on the non elite prospects

1549
01:12:50,439 --> 01:12:53,000
Speaker 4: who came up Like matt, McClain Zach. GELOFF i just

1550
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 4: like you, know wasn't paying attention to those. Guys i'm

1551
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,160
Speaker 4: trying to do a better job of, that even for redraft.

1552
01:12:57,280 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 4: Leagues so so, yeah for, me it's a monitor right.

1553
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 4: Now it could it could go a good way in

1554
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 4: A harvey with uh with that. Lineup let's get into

1555
01:13:06,920 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 4: kind of the meat of this.

1556
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: Segment AND i wanted to talk about this angle too

1557
01:13:11,920 --> 01:13:14,320
Speaker 2: much BECAUSE i always really enjoy kind of seeing your

1558
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 2: like who you really plant your flag on when you're

1559
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,080
Speaker 2: making your, predictions you, know by the end of spring

1560
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:21,200
Speaker 2: training and the guys that you Know i'm Gonna i'm

1561
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: gonna have this guy, everywhere, right Like shane mcclanand no matter.

1562
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 2: What a couple of years, AGO i really enjoy following.

1563
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 2: That so WHAT i wanted to do is talk about

1564
01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:28,280
Speaker 2: that's a.

1565
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:31,160
Speaker 3: Sore subject For tuma actually in our leagues. Together and SO.

1566
01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 4: I posted the Like seane mcclan hand no matter what

1567
01:13:35,720 --> 01:13:38,920
Speaker 4: before an auction draft That mayo was in and he

1568
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:42,120
Speaker 4: just did me up a dollar every single like to

1569
01:13:42,200 --> 01:13:45,840
Speaker 4: the point where it was like just gross, overpaying AND

1570
01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:49,479
Speaker 4: i stopped myself and Then mayor won him and and

1571
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,360
Speaker 4: then it ended up being an underpaid because he was

1572
01:13:51,400 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 4: that good that. Year but so NOW i posted after

1573
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:55,679
Speaker 4: the draft with, mother.

1574
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:57,439
Speaker 1: That's.

1575
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,519
Speaker 2: Great we uh in my long run deep keeper, league

1576
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,120
Speaker 2: we you, know we Had Wyatt langford up available at

1577
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,920
Speaker 2: the salary cap you know draft this, year and there

1578
01:14:08,080 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: was two guys in the, league one of them who

1579
01:14:09,680 --> 01:14:12,160
Speaker 2: is A Florida gators alum and the other who is

1580
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:15,519
Speaker 2: A rangers. Fan and those two were basically both Wya

1581
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,559
Speaker 2: At langford no matter. What and he ended up going

1582
01:14:17,640 --> 01:14:20,080
Speaker 2: for more than any other player in the, league which

1583
01:14:20,200 --> 01:14:22,400
Speaker 2: was a which is a fun. One but, YEAH i

1584
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 2: wanted to talk about these preseason. Predictions and WHAT i

1585
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:27,040
Speaker 2: wanted you guys to do is each pick a prediction

1586
01:14:27,200 --> 01:14:29,280
Speaker 2: that you wish you could take, back if you could

1587
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 2: kind of look back in your crystal ball and, SAY

1588
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:33,200
Speaker 2: i already regret that a couple weeks into the, season

1589
01:14:33,320 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 2: and then also give us a prediction that you would

1590
01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,320
Speaker 2: double down on having seen the first two weeks of the.

1591
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 2: Season let's start with the ones that we wish we

1592
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:40,519
Speaker 2: would take back in two Mile i'll start with.

1593
01:14:40,600 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 4: You, yeah so was this two weeks? Ago now it

1594
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 4: might have. BEEN i posted a tweet AND i was,

1595
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 4: like two GUYS i WISH i had more of right,

1596
01:14:49,320 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 4: away like and it Was Shane bieber And Saya. Suzuki

1597
01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:56,320
Speaker 4: AND i stand by that treat because they both just

1598
01:14:56,439 --> 01:15:00,840
Speaker 4: LIKE i didn't, like they just looked the. Part even

1599
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 4: two weeks into the, season you could tell there was you,

1600
01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,679
Speaker 4: Know suzuki was carrying over his second half of last

1601
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 4: year And bieber he had reached a new. Level and

1602
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:10,240
Speaker 4: then The bieber news, happened like the very next, day

1603
01:15:10,360 --> 01:15:13,560
Speaker 4: So i'm like a little. BIT i don't want to

1604
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 4: jinx anyone with say here with, that but for those

1605
01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,479
Speaker 4: are two guys that pot for. Me and then the

1606
01:15:19,560 --> 01:15:22,519
Speaker 4: OTHER i wanted to mention Is trout and it's not you,

1607
01:15:22,600 --> 01:15:25,960
Speaker 4: KNOW i wasn't crazy of you, know Fading trout, necessarily

1608
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 4: BUT i remember at the beginning of the off season

1609
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 4: just seeing like some very EARLY adp AND i know

1610
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:32,960
Speaker 4: there was a lot of talk he doesn't run, anymore

1611
01:15:33,000 --> 01:15:34,760
Speaker 4: he's gonna get. Hurt AND i just remember, thinking, like,

1612
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 4: man this Is Mike, trout and he's going to be

1613
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:40,400
Speaker 4: available outside the top three rounds of fantasy. Leagues and

1614
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,320
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i play so many different forms of, fantasy including you,

1615
01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 4: know best, ball early in the off, SEASON i WAS

1616
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 4: i was getting a lot of him in that. Format

1617
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:52,160
Speaker 4: but then as the off season went, ON i just

1618
01:15:52,240 --> 01:15:55,519
Speaker 4: started staring more and more at. Projections and you, know for,

1619
01:15:55,680 --> 01:15:58,840
Speaker 4: me LIKE i have rose colored glasses early in the off,

1620
01:15:58,920 --> 01:16:00,920
Speaker 4: season then if you get close to you, know your

1621
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 4: big money drafts and all, that LIKE i get a

1622
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:06,120
Speaker 4: little more, conservative AND i just feel silly for, it

1623
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:09,280
Speaker 4: because because again it is it Is Mike, trout AND

1624
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:11,680
Speaker 4: i think there's a lot of people saying, like, oh, yeah,

1625
01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 4: well you, know if you Drafted Mike, trout this is

1626
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,640
Speaker 4: what you. Expected but he still might get. Hurt BUT

1627
01:16:16,040 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 4: i don't think that's. Accurate like he is a different he,

1628
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,280
Speaker 4: is you, know back to being he, HAD i don't

1629
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:23,400
Speaker 4: want to say fallen, off but like he had regressed

1630
01:16:23,400 --> 01:16:25,120
Speaker 4: a little the past couple of, years and now he's

1631
01:16:25,240 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 4: made that jump level. Back if you look at the

1632
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 4: bad Acts Rex ress of season, Projections Derek carty system

1633
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 4: has just you know fully bought, in and then you

1634
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:38,920
Speaker 4: start digging Around trout swing decisions and it's he's just

1635
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 4: as good as he's ever. Been and it's, Again, YEAH

1636
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 4: i just think we're gonna look back at HIS adp

1637
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:47,200
Speaker 4: from this offseason and we're all just gonna be kicking

1638
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:49,640
Speaker 4: ourselves and we'll be paying the tax next year because of.

1639
01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 2: It, Yeah mayor you and WE i think we talked

1640
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:54,200
Speaker 2: about this a couple of weeks ago on this, show

1641
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:57,759
Speaker 2: how we had been surprised by HIS adp at one, point,

1642
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:00,679
Speaker 2: uh you, know in the off, season and it certainly

1643
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,560
Speaker 2: looks like it was too low right, now like not

1644
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:06,200
Speaker 2: only the running more, often but clearly the power already

1645
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:08,920
Speaker 2: eight home. Runs i'm really like kind of, intrigued And

1646
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: i'm curious your, Opinion mayor on some of the like

1647
01:17:11,960 --> 01:17:14,880
Speaker 2: stat cast, Data like it's a lot of career highs

1648
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 2: and career. Lows it's a career low walk, rate it's

1649
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 2: a career low hard hit. Rate obviously the expected numbers

1650
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: are really strong in terms of slugging AND wOBA and all.

1651
01:17:24,080 --> 01:17:27,000
Speaker 2: That you, know the launch angle is a career. High

1652
01:17:28,960 --> 01:17:30,800
Speaker 2: Was oh, yeah the exit velocity is also a career.

1653
01:17:30,880 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 2: Low so there's like a lot of ones kind of

1654
01:17:32,520 --> 01:17:34,479
Speaker 2: on the extremes of what we've seen out Of. Trout

1655
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 2: but obviously the performance to data has been really.

1656
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:40,439
Speaker 3: Strong, yeah and, yeah we talked about this exact thing

1657
01:17:40,479 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 3: That tuma was bringing up a couple of weeks, ago

1658
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i messaged you like during the, draft AND i

1659
01:17:44,240 --> 01:17:45,880
Speaker 3: THINK i said something, LIKE i can't believe Where Mike

1660
01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:47,960
Speaker 3: traut just went in this. Draft like he's Still Mike.

1661
01:17:48,040 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 3: Trout he's still he might not be the first round pick,

1662
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 3: anymore but he still has That Mike trout. Ceiling and

1663
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:56,160
Speaker 3: To tuma's, point you, know we're just you, know we're

1664
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:59,479
Speaker 3: seeing you, know he already has eight home runs and you,

1665
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:01,280
Speaker 3: Know i'm looking at the bad ex. Projections now he's

1666
01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 3: projecting him for thirty seven more so almost fifty home

1667
01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,920
Speaker 3: runs For Mike jot again assuming he stays. Healthy but

1668
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:09,720
Speaker 3: he's already he's also already stolen more bases than you

1669
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:11,880
Speaker 3: were expecting when you drafted, him because hes stole three

1670
01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:14,800
Speaker 3: after stealing like six over the last four or five,

1671
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 3: years so, Combined so the, yeah the hard hit data is.

1672
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 3: INTERESTING i was looking at it While tuma was, talking

1673
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:24,920
Speaker 3: and you, know if you look at like all of

1674
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 3: his you, know just like the hard hit percentage on,

1675
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:30,920
Speaker 3: fangrafts like you, know from previous, years it's like forty,

1676
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: three forty, one thirty, eight thirty, eight thirty, nine and

1677
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,280
Speaker 3: this year is only. Thirty SO i wouldn't say that's.

1678
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,280
Speaker 3: Concerning but he has also cut down on his, strikeouts

1679
01:18:38,520 --> 01:18:40,679
Speaker 3: so he could just be making more contact and making

1680
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:44,160
Speaker 3: different swing, decisions which is fine in the long run

1681
01:18:44,240 --> 01:18:46,760
Speaker 3: because also his launch angle is up and he's hitting you,

1682
01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:48,519
Speaker 3: know more home, runs hitting more balls in the. Air

1683
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:51,680
Speaker 3: so To toomba's, POINT i do think a lot of

1684
01:18:51,760 --> 01:18:53,679
Speaker 3: it is just kind of like a different mic. TROT

1685
01:18:53,720 --> 01:18:55,479
Speaker 3: i think he just kind of recalibratd this offseed and

1686
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 3: came in with a different approach because he didn't want

1687
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 3: to JUST i, mean obviously he doesn't want to get,

1688
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,640
Speaker 3: hurt and you know that has nothing to do with.

1689
01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 3: It BUT i think he he kind of looked at you,

1690
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:07,800
Speaker 3: know Maybe i'm NOT i can't be WHAT i was

1691
01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:09,760
Speaker 3: WHEN i was twenty five years old. Anymore now you,

1692
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 3: Know i'm Gonna i'm thirty. Two MAYBE i have to

1693
01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:13,640
Speaker 3: have a little bit of a different. Approach MAYBE i have,

1694
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:17,680
Speaker 3: to you, Know i've just approached things differently to to

1695
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 3: have a different kind of, Success and so for so,

1696
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:20,519
Speaker 3: far it's working for.

1697
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:25,400
Speaker 2: Him if we were drafting today just, totally you, know

1698
01:19:25,680 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: your rosters are, gone we're now sitting, down we have

1699
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:28,680
Speaker 2: draft day.

1700
01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:32,280
Speaker 1: Again where would you be planning to take trout mayor?

1701
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 3: First? Overall, NO i mean it's hard to, answer just

1702
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,479
Speaker 3: because that like that injury concern is still. There it's still.

1703
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:47,120
Speaker 3: REAL i forget exactly where he was, going but it

1704
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:51,320
Speaker 3: was way too, late AND i felt like during even

1705
01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 3: like during draft season we got into like the second,

1706
01:19:54,120 --> 01:19:57,719
Speaker 3: round AND i kept, thinking, like SHOULD i Take Mike draut?

1707
01:19:57,800 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 3: Here like is it too early For Mike draud is

1708
01:19:59,560 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: the second one Earlier Mike Trot and, like obviously if

1709
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,599
Speaker 3: you know you're in the first eighteen games or getting

1710
01:20:04,600 --> 01:20:08,320
Speaker 3: eight home runs and three stolen, BASES i, MEAN i

1711
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 3: think the second round is still viable even with the

1712
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 3: injury concerns.

1713
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 2: There our FINAL adp data On Fantasy pros was fifty sixth.

1714
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:17,800
Speaker 1: Overall, YEAH i was.

1715
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:20,960
Speaker 4: Gonna, SAY i remember seeing like forties fifties type, stuff

1716
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:23,360
Speaker 4: AND i agree With. MAYOR i would say middle round

1717
01:20:23,400 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 4: two Where i'd be looking at him right.

1718
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,559
Speaker 2: NOW i think that makes a lot of. Sense, mayor

1719
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:32,200
Speaker 2: give me your preseason. Prediction you wish you could take.

1720
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:35,960
Speaker 3: Back my preseason. PREDICTION i WISH i could take back

1721
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:40,280
Speaker 3: was THINKING i had enough power on my, rosters because

1722
01:20:40,360 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 3: through three WEEKS i do. Not and it goes kind

1723
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:48,600
Speaker 3: of back to just kind of HOW i build my

1724
01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:51,760
Speaker 3: rosters depend you, know regardless of how the you, know

1725
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 3: what kind of draft it, is whether it's like auction

1726
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 3: or snake or you know, ANYTHING i kind of have

1727
01:20:57,560 --> 01:21:02,679
Speaker 3: the same process of building my rosters and And i'm

1728
01:21:02,720 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 3: a process truth The, tanner The Tanner Bell Jeffson woman

1729
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,720
Speaker 3: process book they put out that's kind of like the

1730
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:10,679
Speaker 3: bible THAT i THAT i adhere to for like roster,

1731
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 3: construction and SO i basically look at projections and it

1732
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 3: build my roster out, Saying, OKAY i HAVE i need

1733
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 3: this many, RUNS i need this much, POWER i need

1734
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 3: this these you, know, uh, these this many. STEALS i

1735
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 3: need my average to kind of average out somewhere in this.

1736
01:21:24,040 --> 01:21:26,240
Speaker 3: Range and that's HOW i tried, it you. Know and you,

1737
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 3: know it's hard to predict like injuries or progression and

1738
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 3: that kind of, stuff so it's hard to just strictly

1739
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:37,840
Speaker 3: base it on. Projections BUT i across the, BOARD i

1740
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,360
Speaker 3: feel LIKE i leaned too heavily into like stolen bases

1741
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,439
Speaker 3: just by building my roster, out, like, Oh i'll get

1742
01:21:43,439 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 3: a few stolen basin from. Him i'll sprinkle in some.

1743
01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 3: HERE i could do some more steels, here you, Know

1744
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,679
Speaker 3: i'll get ten fifteen home runs out of this guy

1745
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:53,960
Speaker 3: and Caveat, again it's still very, early you, know it

1746
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,880
Speaker 3: could it could still bounce it in different, ways but so,

1747
01:21:57,040 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: far almost across the board in all my, Leagues i'm

1748
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 3: still doing really well in all of my. Leagues But

1749
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,559
Speaker 3: i'm looking at the home run totals and THE rbi

1750
01:22:03,720 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 3: totals and they're not WHERE i need them to, be

1751
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,360
Speaker 3: AND i feel like that could come back to bite

1752
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 3: me IF i don't fix that.

1753
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,360
Speaker 1: Soon has there been kind of like a main culprit

1754
01:22:13,600 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 1: that has let you, down Or.

1755
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 3: Austin reiley could could provide a little bit more power

1756
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 3: that would help me out a little. Bit but for

1757
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 3: the most, part it's more of LIKE i was just

1758
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:25,040
Speaker 3: kind of like penciling in like this guy for fifteen

1759
01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:27,479
Speaker 3: home runs and a lot of those guys have one

1760
01:22:27,560 --> 01:22:28,280
Speaker 3: or two home runs so.

1761
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: Far, yeah but what do you think what's the state

1762
01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,320
Speaker 1: of power on a lot of your. ROSTERS i think

1763
01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: this is.

1764
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:38,400
Speaker 4: A really interesting conversation that we'll start talking about more

1765
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:42,680
Speaker 4: every off season in the coming, years, because you, know

1766
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 4: for a bunch of, years stolen bases with the most

1767
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,920
Speaker 4: scarce resource In fantasy, baseball AND i kind of think

1768
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,800
Speaker 4: that's shifting a little bit towards. Power one thing THAT

1769
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 4: i was banking on in a lot of my leagues

1770
01:22:53,040 --> 01:22:55,760
Speaker 4: this year is kind of being able to you, know

1771
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:59,519
Speaker 4: a lot of the minor leaguers that are coming up nowadays,

1772
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,200
Speaker 4: early especially last, year AND i expect that. Continue they've

1773
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:04,720
Speaker 4: been playing with the new stolen base rules for a few.

1774
01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:07,960
Speaker 4: Years and these guys are young and, athletic and they're

1775
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 4: willing to. Run whereas you know that that true you

1776
01:23:11,200 --> 01:23:13,679
Speaker 4: know power, bad especially one that's not going to sink

1777
01:23:13,720 --> 01:23:15,799
Speaker 4: your batting average the way you know A Kyle Schwarber

1778
01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 4: Max munsey, Will, like those guys are becoming a.

1779
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:19,200
Speaker 2: Little bit more.

1780
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,320
Speaker 4: Rare i've seen some very early stats about, uh you,

1781
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 4: know league, wide hitters aren't pulling the ball as, much

1782
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:29,040
Speaker 4: and there's this belief without the shift or sections that

1783
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 4: players can go to the all sorts of other parts

1784
01:23:33,240 --> 01:23:35,760
Speaker 4: of the field. More AND i just think the game

1785
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,280
Speaker 4: is trending in a way that does reward athleticism and,

1786
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,000
Speaker 4: speed and that's going to make you, know the the you,

1787
01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,000
Speaker 4: know set it and forget it forty homer power hitter

1788
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 4: a little bit more of a.

1789
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 2: Scarce resource in the futures. Too let's get to your preseason.

1790
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 2: Prediction if you could go, back you would double down On.

1791
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 4: Yeah so this is like again LIKE i love looking

1792
01:23:56,080 --> 01:23:59,240
Speaker 4: at the macro for, baseball especially it's the, past you,

1793
01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 4: know a bunch of, years whether it was the juice

1794
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 4: ball or you, know the shortened season or sticky stuff

1795
01:24:04,280 --> 01:24:06,719
Speaker 4: or the new, Rules, like we we've experienced a lot

1796
01:24:07,000 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 4: in a short amount of, time AND I i for

1797
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:12,160
Speaker 4: a few, YEARS i felt LIKE i was playing. Ketchup

1798
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:14,000
Speaker 4: LIKE i would look at the macro state of the

1799
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 4: league from the previous, YEAR i would, Say, okay here's the,

1800
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:20,080
Speaker 4: blueprint and then things would. CHANGE i do think we're

1801
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 4: starting to see things kind of normalize a little bit.

1802
01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:23,960
Speaker 2: Now and.

1803
01:24:25,680 --> 01:24:28,479
Speaker 4: You, know one thing from all the rule changes last

1804
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,479
Speaker 4: year is like everyone was talking about stolen, bases but

1805
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:32,640
Speaker 4: it but it made pitching really. Tough by the end

1806
01:24:32,680 --> 01:24:35,200
Speaker 4: of last, season there was so much talk about the

1807
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:38,920
Speaker 4: glob within the starting pitcher, ranks And I'M i believe

1808
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 4: in the, glob you, KNOW i think that's you, Know

1809
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 4: i'm blanking on who exactly was the first. MENTION i

1810
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,960
Speaker 4: Know Scott white OF, CBS i Think Paul sporer talk about.

1811
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 4: It but, Uh i'm going a long way about getting

1812
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:55,280
Speaker 4: to how it came to this conclusion with pitching entering

1813
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 4: the season and then all these injuries happened this. Offseason

1814
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:01,759
Speaker 4: we got to spring, Training Cole goes, Down Kyle, Bradish

1815
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,640
Speaker 4: CODE I, Sanga justin Erland, er all these guys are

1816
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:08,160
Speaker 4: are kind of dropping the season, starts obviously things get way.

1817
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 4: Worse Spencer, Stryder Shane, bieber Franbervalbez, nick Thea. Vetta you,

1818
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 4: know these are all varying degrees Of elbour. Injuries but

1819
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,519
Speaker 4: there it became this. BELIEF i do think we're gonna

1820
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 4: hear a lot of people this offseason talk, about you,

1821
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,479
Speaker 4: know you gotta wait on starting pitching because they're just

1822
01:25:24,520 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 4: gonna get hurt. Anyway AND i kind of think it's

1823
01:25:27,040 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 4: an interesting time to zag and say, no like starting,

1824
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,439
Speaker 4: pitcher you have to brace that some of your pitchers

1825
01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,360
Speaker 4: are gonna get, hurt so you need more of, them

1826
01:25:36,080 --> 01:25:39,640
Speaker 4: and then you need to find the next. Glob you

1827
01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 4: can't just wait for the glob because what comes after

1828
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 4: the glob is really. Scary and we're seeing guys Like Renew,

1829
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 4: Blanco Cody bradford before he got. Hurt these are the

1830
01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:51,719
Speaker 4: Guy Tanner, Houck Jared, jones guys who you, know weren't

1831
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 4: considered sure. Things you know at over the off season

1832
01:25:56,040 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 4: that now you need there's really strong starting pitch base

1833
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,880
Speaker 4: and then you need to add to that relentlessly throughout the.

1834
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 4: Season so that was my, mantra AND i feel really

1835
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:08,479
Speaker 4: good about that the way things have shaken. Out and,

1836
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,240
Speaker 4: AGAIN i know that some people might see it a

1837
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,440
Speaker 4: different way with all the, injuries but to, me that's

1838
01:26:13,479 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 4: the way.

1839
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 3: To go about.

1840
01:26:14,280 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: It but what do you think about that mayor as a,

1841
01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,479
Speaker 2: strategy BECAUSE, i you, KNOW i sort of see it

1842
01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:21,320
Speaker 2: both ways in terms of What tuma's describing in terms of, like,

1843
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,439
Speaker 2: YEAH i mean you're you're you're kind of playing with

1844
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 2: fire in terms of the. Injuries but on the other,

1845
01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 2: hand it's almost, like you, know, redundancy you're taking too

1846
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 2: much knowing you're going to lose some of these guys

1847
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:31,720
Speaker 2: along the.

1848
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,760
Speaker 1: Way how do you think you will be wanting to

1849
01:26:33,800 --> 01:26:34,519
Speaker 1: approach this going?

1850
01:26:34,600 --> 01:26:37,880
Speaker 3: FORWARD i THINK i think it's. TERRIFYING i think the

1851
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 3: jury is still out for How i'm going to figure

1852
01:26:39,640 --> 01:26:41,280
Speaker 3: this out going. FORWARD i think it's another THING i

1853
01:26:41,320 --> 01:26:45,240
Speaker 3: think we talked about recently where all these pitcher injuries

1854
01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 3: are definitely going to adjust strategies going, forward But i'm

1855
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,720
Speaker 3: just not sure for me personally how it's going to

1856
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 3: adjust my. Strategy DO i do What tuma is suggesting

1857
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 3: and continue to do aggressively target starting, pitching or DO

1858
01:26:57,120 --> 01:26:59,160
Speaker 3: i back off and just target as much of the

1859
01:26:59,200 --> 01:27:01,880
Speaker 3: glob AS I i can later in drafts and just

1860
01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 3: hope THAT i hit on enough of them that it works.

1861
01:27:04,040 --> 01:27:07,040
Speaker 4: OUT i, think, sorry IF i just add one more

1862
01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:09,600
Speaker 4: thing on, THAT i, think you, know the my my

1863
01:27:09,720 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 4: case for it is like you might, say, like, oh you,

1864
01:27:11,760 --> 01:27:14,599
Speaker 4: KNOW i don't want to risk getting My Sponsher strider

1865
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 4: Or Garrett cole. Hurt So i'm just gonna. Wait and

1866
01:27:17,000 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 4: the two Pitchers i'm gonna take, are you, Know Shane

1867
01:27:19,520 --> 01:27:23,160
Speaker 4: bieber and Fran. Ravaldez and Then i'm. Set i'm decreasing

1868
01:27:23,200 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 4: an injury. Risk and Then i'm gonna wait on pitching.

1869
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 4: Again and then all of a sudden you're in a

1870
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,960
Speaker 4: situation where you don't have any and so, yeah you

1871
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,200
Speaker 4: gotta you don't have to take the first starting. Pitcher

1872
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 4: BUT i think the WAY i phrase it, IS i

1873
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:37,080
Speaker 4: want to have like MY sp six seven when others

1874
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,600
Speaker 4: are still getting like THEIR sp three, Four LIKE i

1875
01:27:39,680 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 4: want that.

1876
01:27:40,200 --> 01:27:43,080
Speaker 2: Depth What What i've found That i've done a lot

1877
01:27:43,160 --> 01:27:45,800
Speaker 2: this year is less so on draft, day BUT i

1878
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 2: have been particularly aggressive on waivers with, pictures much more

1879
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,760
Speaker 2: so than. Hitters some of that is just the guys

1880
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,160
Speaker 2: who are, available BUT i have been, really you, know

1881
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,120
Speaker 2: even in leagues with limited transactions for the, season if

1882
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 2: they you, know we talked About Renel blanco And week

1883
01:27:59,320 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 2: one and just a ton of guys where if there's

1884
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:05,519
Speaker 2: like any justification to say this could be somebody who's,

1885
01:28:05,520 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 2: Elevating i'm taking that swing on waivers early.

1886
01:28:09,240 --> 01:28:10,479
Speaker 1: On so that's really Where i've been more.

1887
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 2: Aggressive may we got to get too mad out of,

1888
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:15,920
Speaker 2: here but very quickly your preseason, prediction you would double down.

1889
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:19,000
Speaker 3: On, yeah real, quick BECAUSE i know too mastic of that.

1890
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 3: Heres he's got a lot of stuff to. DO i

1891
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 3: would double down on The Spencer steer. Breakout AND i

1892
01:28:24,120 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 3: know it's a little bit hard to call it a

1893
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,519
Speaker 3: true breakout because he did have a good twenty twenty,

1894
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 3: three but it did seem like a lot of people

1895
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:31,920
Speaker 3: were down On Spencer steer and they didn't buy into

1896
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:36,160
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three, numbers probably because the hard you,

1897
01:28:36,240 --> 01:28:38,560
Speaker 3: know the bad at ball data wasn't, great but so,

1898
01:28:38,720 --> 01:28:41,320
Speaker 3: far so. Good in twenty twenty, four the hard hit

1899
01:28:41,479 --> 01:28:44,599
Speaker 3: data is a lot. Better it's not Like ryan O'Hearn,

1900
01:28:44,680 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: good but it's still very. Good who could Be ryan

1901
01:28:47,360 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 3: No herd?

1902
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:48,559
Speaker 1: Good that's.

1903
01:28:48,640 --> 01:28:51,640
Speaker 3: True it is actually it is actually impossible to be

1904
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,200
Speaker 3: better Than ryan O'Hearn added bald, data but people are

1905
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,040
Speaker 3: down on, him and HIS adp was around one hundred

1906
01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:58,640
Speaker 3: and even passed one hundred and some, drafts and SO

1907
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:01,439
Speaker 3: i got him, everywhere including that draft With, tuma where you,

1908
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,960
Speaker 3: KNOW i famously drafted him for his versatility and was

1909
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,120
Speaker 3: stuck with him at first. Base although NOW i Have Michael,

1910
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,720
Speaker 3: bush So i'm hoping he can solve two problems for.

1911
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 3: ME i get some power THAT i need and Move

1912
01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,559
Speaker 3: Spencer steeer. Around so doubling down on The Spencer steer.

1913
01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 3: Breakout didn't have as grade of a week this week

1914
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 3: as he had the first two, weeks.

1915
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:20,160
Speaker 4: But so, far so.

1916
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 2: Good, yeah the bad of all data looks really really good.

1917
01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 2: Too my any quick thoughts On steer before we let you.

1918
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:28,920
Speaker 4: Go, yeah it was a hilarious moment in That Salary

1919
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 4: cup draft Because mayer went like way OVER i think

1920
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 4: even what he wanted to, do but but he got that.

1921
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:36,600
Speaker 4: Versatility now he's you, know replaced the first base you

1922
01:29:36,680 --> 01:29:40,519
Speaker 4: know position with With Michael, bush and, YEAH i Think,

1923
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:42,720
Speaker 4: steer you, know there was a chance if all The

1924
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,799
Speaker 4: reds guys Even. Noelvie and you, know If matt McLain

1925
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 4: didn't get hurt And noelvie didn't get to spended like

1926
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,240
Speaker 4: he gotta got pushed out and it's gone the other

1927
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,439
Speaker 4: way for, him and you know he's insulated himself even further,

1928
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,240
Speaker 4: now so an amazing run out for.

1929
01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:58,280
Speaker 2: Him all right, Too but thank you so much for coming.

1930
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:00,920
Speaker 2: On i'm sure we'll have you again in the. Season May,

1931
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,639
Speaker 2: or are you gonna yell at me IF i don't

1932
01:30:02,680 --> 01:30:03,280
Speaker 2: let you say?

1933
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 1: Goodbye or what is going on? Here?

1934
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:09,280
Speaker 3: YES i, Will, tuma great to have. You thanks for coming.

1935
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:11,680
Speaker 3: On we hope to have you back on. Soon it's

1936
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:13,559
Speaker 3: great to, just you, know see you again and hear

1937
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 3: your voice.

1938
01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,240
Speaker 4: NOW i appreciate it coming, on and, YEAH i would

1939
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 4: love that again later in the.

1940
01:30:18,360 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 2: Season All, right we'll Let tuma go And mayor AND

1941
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,360
Speaker 2: i will be back to wrap up the show in

1942
01:30:22,479 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 2: just a. Second thank you again To Brandon tuma for

1943
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,760
Speaker 2: making the time to join us. TODAY i really appreciated

1944
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 2: his insights on some of his preseason predictions and of

1945
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 2: course waivers, suggestions and Also Jack Lighter, Mayor let's wrap

1946
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,879
Speaker 2: things up as we always do with our weekend.

1947
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:41,120
Speaker 1: Excitement what are we most looking forward?

1948
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:46,280
Speaker 2: TO i put myself first in the, notes AS i often,

1949
01:30:46,360 --> 01:30:50,439
Speaker 2: do and last week you didn't appreciate THAT i put

1950
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,960
Speaker 2: my notes in, first but then had you read yours?

1951
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,240
Speaker 2: First SO i will go first here SINCE i went

1952
01:30:56,320 --> 01:30:59,000
Speaker 2: first in the, OUTLIED i did just want to mention

1953
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:01,240
Speaker 2: That i'm really excited for Just braves as a fun.

1954
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:02,280
Speaker 1: Series talented.

1955
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,439
Speaker 2: Lineups could be a lot of fireworks this, weekend just

1956
01:31:06,200 --> 01:31:09,360
Speaker 2: with you, Know texas Facing. Atlanta but the, big you,

1957
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,680
Speaker 2: know kind of one moment That i'm really excited for

1958
01:31:12,479 --> 01:31:16,280
Speaker 2: Is Corbyn burns Versus Cole reagan's On. Saturday and we

1959
01:31:17,360 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 2: kind of got this in the second series of the

1960
01:31:20,960 --> 01:31:25,560
Speaker 2: season when The orioles hosted The. Royals but this game was,

1961
01:31:25,760 --> 01:31:28,120
Speaker 2: scheduled if you, remember it was A, wednesday like early

1962
01:31:28,160 --> 01:31:30,800
Speaker 2: afternoon getaway, day and then there ended up being like

1963
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:34,120
Speaker 2: a four and a half hour rain, delay so you,

1964
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,479
Speaker 2: know it's still we still kind of. Got it's not the,

1965
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:39,759
Speaker 2: same right it was. Delayed kind of throws off the pitcher's.

1966
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:43,800
Speaker 2: Rhythms This i'm really excited to see two like true,

1967
01:31:44,000 --> 01:31:46,000
Speaker 2: aces at least in terms of what they've looked.

1968
01:31:46,040 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: Like kind of to start the year going head to.

1969
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:51,880
Speaker 2: Head I'M i just think it's be a really really

1970
01:31:51,920 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 2: fun pitching matchup And i'm really excited to watch.

1971
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: It SO i really kind of wanted to.

1972
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: Highlight LIKE i, SAID i Mentioned Rangers braves as a

1973
01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,760
Speaker 2: fun series look forward, to BUT i really wanted to

1974
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:00,639
Speaker 2: high like this pitching.

1975
01:32:00,680 --> 01:32:02,200
Speaker 1: Matchup what do you got for your weekend?

1976
01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:05,599
Speaker 3: Excitement so my first one up Is Jordan montgomery's, debut

1977
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 3: the long Awaited Jordan montgomery. Debut we finally get to see.

1978
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:15,240
Speaker 3: HIM i would Say Jack, lder but he's you, know

1979
01:32:15,479 --> 01:32:18,200
Speaker 3: by the time you have listened to, this he will already.

1980
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:21,680
Speaker 3: Pitched and he actually has already pitched as of this

1981
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 3: as of What i'm saying right, now and it didn't go.

1982
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:28,479
Speaker 3: Well so not looking forward to. THAT i have not

1983
01:32:28,640 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 3: seen him, pitch BUT i see the numbers And i'm

1984
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 3: not looking forward to seeing what him what it looked.

1985
01:32:34,160 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 3: Like But Jordan montgomery's debut versus Versus blake snow who

1986
01:32:38,720 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 3: would prefer to see it?

1987
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:39,880
Speaker 2: Better?

1988
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:43,320
Speaker 3: Outing and then the red Hot mets versus the ice Cold.

1989
01:32:43,360 --> 01:32:45,040
Speaker 1: DODGERS i almost mentioned that.

1990
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,600
Speaker 2: ONE i went with the other series, instead BUT i

1991
01:32:47,640 --> 01:32:48,519
Speaker 2: almost Mentioned Mets.

1992
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:51,479
Speaker 3: Dodgers, yeah and the pitching matchups for that series Is

1993
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:57,160
Speaker 3: mania Versus. Yamamoto. Jose you say Name, buthto, BUTTOO i

1994
01:32:57,200 --> 01:32:57,680
Speaker 3: feel like It's.

1995
01:32:57,720 --> 01:33:00,960
Speaker 2: BOUTO i can never answer that when it's one of

1996
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 2: these names That i've mostly just read instead of listened.

1997
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:05,640
Speaker 3: To so, Yeah i've actually heard it multiple times and

1998
01:33:05,800 --> 01:33:11,320
Speaker 3: just don't. Remember so it's, Him he Who must not

1999
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:14,280
Speaker 3: Be named Versus Gavin, stone and then the much maligned

2000
01:33:14,400 --> 01:33:16,759
Speaker 3: At Adrian hauser Versus James.

2001
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 2: Baxton you just included him because you wanted to Give

2002
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:20,479
Speaker 2: hawsers a shout.

2003
01:33:20,520 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 3: Out, WELL i actually wrote it in the shape before

2004
01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 3: our two most, segments so it just worked.

2005
01:33:26,680 --> 01:33:30,040
Speaker 2: Beautifully let's go to our season long to start pitcher.

2006
01:33:30,080 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 2: Competition we actually can finally talk about results because of

2007
01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:35,519
Speaker 2: the nature when we record the, show we kind of

2008
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:37,120
Speaker 2: have to wait an extra week to see the second.

2009
01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:40,200
Speaker 1: Start our first week's, matchup we Had Zach wheeler for,

2010
01:33:40,320 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 1: Me Charlie morton for.

2011
01:33:41,479 --> 01:33:45,560
Speaker 2: You neither guy did very. Well Zach wheeler owed. To

2012
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 2: he gave up seven earned runs in twelve, innings four,

2013
01:33:49,160 --> 01:33:53,559
Speaker 2: walks fifteen, strikeouts and kind of using my league's fantasy

2014
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 2: point scoring as a catch all ten point Eight fantasy,

2015
01:33:56,640 --> 01:33:59,839
Speaker 2: Points Charlie morton even worse eleven and a third, innings

2016
01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 2: ten earned, run six, walks twelve strikeouts of five point

2017
01:34:04,720 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 2: Six fantasy. Points so are you willing to conceive THAT

2018
01:34:08,320 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 2: i Won week? One?

2019
01:34:10,320 --> 01:34:13,120
Speaker 3: YEAH i think. SO i remember, watching like looking At

2020
01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,320
Speaker 3: wheeler's numbers and his second. START i was, like, oh

2021
01:34:15,439 --> 01:34:17,320
Speaker 3: like that was it was a real like dud of a,

2022
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:19,200
Speaker 3: Start LIKE i wonder IF i can pull this off and.

2023
01:34:19,240 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 3: Win and THEN i Saw Charlie morton start AND i was,

2024
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:23,200
Speaker 3: like never, MIND i am going to need to see

2025
01:34:23,240 --> 01:34:25,960
Speaker 3: your league's scoring just SO i know how to manipulate

2026
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,200
Speaker 3: the system going forward to see.

2027
01:34:27,240 --> 01:34:28,800
Speaker 1: We don't have to use. THAT i this one it

2028
01:34:28,920 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: was kind of clear.

2029
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:32,240
Speaker 2: Regardless it just made it kind of an easier, like,

2030
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,280
Speaker 2: no that's find of number to, it but we can

2031
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:38,040
Speaker 2: we can determine the best way to score these in the.

2032
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,240
Speaker 2: FUTURE i just, THOUGHT i, mean this one was was

2033
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:43,240
Speaker 2: a clear. Winner not That wheeler was, great but a clear.

2034
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:47,960
Speaker 3: Winner your own two seven earned run clear. WINNERS i

2035
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:49,920
Speaker 3: know it's, wild so, Sorry.

2036
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:53,760
Speaker 2: Actually it's it's it's almost impressive THAT i still outscored

2037
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 2: you in the league's scoring settings BECAUSE i got minus

2038
01:34:56,520 --> 01:34:59,759
Speaker 2: ten points from those two losses that you That Charlie

2039
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:03,160
Speaker 2: moore and did not get. Going oh and, oh obviously

2040
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:05,679
Speaker 2: our one from last week Is Aaron nola Versus Cutter.

2041
01:35:05,760 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 2: Crawford we'll wait to see how that one wraps up

2042
01:35:08,200 --> 01:35:12,560
Speaker 2: over the. Weekend this upcoming, WEEK i Picked Grayson. Rodriguez

2043
01:35:12,640 --> 01:35:16,120
Speaker 2: he's at The angels and home versus The, athletics AND

2044
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 2: i have a general rule where if you're a good

2045
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 2: pitcher and one of your two is against The, ATHLETICS

2046
01:35:20,280 --> 01:35:22,200
Speaker 2: i will probably pick you in this. Contest and he's

2047
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,080
Speaker 2: already had a really good start against The angels as

2048
01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:26,640
Speaker 2: well in the other one of, Those So i'm really

2049
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 2: excited About grayson this. Week he's looked really really good

2050
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:33,080
Speaker 2: to start the, season great, matchups including a team he's

2051
01:35:33,080 --> 01:35:34,320
Speaker 2: already kind of dominated this.

2052
01:35:34,439 --> 01:35:37,440
Speaker 1: Year so that is my, Pick Grayson rodriguezho's.

2053
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 3: Yours my pick Is Pablo. LOPEZ i have a similar

2054
01:35:40,680 --> 01:35:43,160
Speaker 3: rule with The White, sox and he has two, starts

2055
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:45,400
Speaker 3: one of them against The White sox and one of

2056
01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:47,960
Speaker 3: them against The, angels who The angels have looked better

2057
01:35:48,080 --> 01:35:51,400
Speaker 3: than expected so, far largely because Of Mike trout doing

2058
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:54,120
Speaker 3: a lot of it. Himself Taylor word also looking very,

2059
01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 3: good but, yeah and The White sox were already bad

2060
01:35:58,400 --> 01:35:59,960
Speaker 3: coming into the, year then they lost through their bad.

2061
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:04,000
Speaker 3: Sitters they are Getting eloimnez, back BUT i still don't really,

2062
01:36:04,040 --> 01:36:08,640
Speaker 3: care and So i'm leaning hard On Pablo lopez to

2063
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:12,320
Speaker 3: give me what should be my second win of the.

2064
01:36:12,520 --> 01:36:15,400
Speaker 3: Season once matchup two is done With Aaron, Nola.

2065
01:36:15,720 --> 01:36:17,759
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens with the rest of the matchup.

2066
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:19,599
Speaker 2: Too The angels are going to play a big role

2067
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,400
Speaker 2: and who wins this. Week, yeah because we both both

2068
01:36:22,439 --> 01:36:26,160
Speaker 2: of our guys have games IN la against The. Angels

2069
01:36:26,920 --> 01:36:27,519
Speaker 2: we were apt In.

2070
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:32,400
Speaker 1: La, yeah, yeah quotes. There we will wrapp things up with.

2071
01:36:32,560 --> 01:36:33,160
Speaker 4: THAT i.

2072
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:35,920
Speaker 2: Know it is another supersized, Episodes so thanks everybody for

2073
01:36:36,000 --> 01:36:37,080
Speaker 2: tuning in For.

2074
01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: Mayor and For tuma for joining. Us I'm Ryan warmley

2075
01:36:40,080 --> 01:36:41,519
Speaker 1: and we'll see you guys again next.

2076
01:36:41,640 --> 01:36:44,799
Speaker 2: Week thanks for listening to The Fantasy Pros Fantasy baseball.

2077
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:49,280
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