1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey we're back. We're black, we're brown, and. 2 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 2: Heynansa, well, I'm glad you got your spunk back. Clearly now, 3 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 2: I clearly COVID ain't take you out. 4 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: I know, but I just this cough, like I feel fine, 5 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: but this cough is like, but you're not fine. 6 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: So there's gonna be there for a minute. It's funny 7 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: how we both came to the show. We're like, we're sick. 8 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,680 Speaker 2: I'm sick. Maybe it's COVID, let's hope not. And then 9 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: immediately after the show is COVID. 10 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: It's COVID. Yes it was COVID. I like, you know, 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I don't. Honestly, I feel kind of 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: guilty because I feel like I had a scratchy throat before. 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: I want to invest fast, so I might have been 14 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: the super spreader. 15 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 2: Oh nope. 16 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: Cover people were like, oh I. 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: They wanted to hug you. You said you weren't a hugger. 18 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 2: I know, I'm us. 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: I feel like I went the plane ride over, I 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 1: was like, you know, the back of the throw. I 21 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: was like, oh, so I don't think I got coming 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: from investment. I think I brought COVID. But you know, 23 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: hopefully everybody's fine. I mean, yeah, so have you been 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: oh good? 25 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: Good enjoying like the transition to fall, which means I'm 26 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,520 Speaker 2: not sweating my face off all day every day in 27 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: New York. No, it's been good. I went and saw 28 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 2: I'm not allowed to say, Okay, y'all, it's a very 29 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: popular musical, but we can unpack it a little bit. 30 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 2: I went and saw MJ the musical. It was a 31 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: birthday gift from my one of my best friends, and 32 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: it was fair girl. Like a week and a half ago. 33 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: I missed it. 34 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, you had a lot. Listen. My birthday's like two 35 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 2: days after Superman's. I was not trying to I don't know, Mandra. 36 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 2: I was like, wait, her birthday. I hope this was 37 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 2: a gift they brought on your and you watched it 38 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: months later. But I'm like, oh, sorry, I please, it's fine. 39 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm a big girl. I'm not gonna talk about my 40 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 2: age now. Because my mom sent me the birthday card 41 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 2: and she put the number in it. Fine, it's thirty five. 42 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,920 Speaker 2: When she did that, I'm embarrassed to say that. I 43 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 2: felt some type of way about it, like I did 44 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 2: it just I was like, I'm too old for a 45 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 2: birthday card. Even I just felt so like, Mommy sent 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 2: me a card. I'm thirty five. 47 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: And girl, thirty five is like I promise you. When 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I was in my thirties, I certainly was like huh. 49 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: But once I hit forty, like, it doesn't like I'm 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: forty two now and I don't feel that same. I 51 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: look at myself, I'm like, oh, look at my baby. 52 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: Thirty something year old South thirty five is still such 53 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: a baby. Look at your baby face. Girl, by you 54 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,799 Speaker 1: still got your knees, you know, Like, look, I got 55 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: one trick me. I'm like, no, try I wake up 56 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 1: in the morning. I'm like, come on, she gotta wake 57 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: up a second. So like now, once I hit forty, 58 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: I don't say what I tell you. You can't throw 59 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: me nothing. I feel good aside that ny oh, but 60 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: like I didn't care as much. But definitely my thirties 61 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: I definitely was like feeling like, oh my gosh, thirty 62 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 1: oh my god. But by forty, you're gonna be like, 63 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: oh girl, because I still feel young. I feel like, girl, like, 64 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,800 Speaker 1: you know, we still got this good melanin, you know, 65 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: elasticity still working in the skin. Okay, full head of hair. 66 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: That's the good thing about being a little chunky is 67 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 2: you know the skin is always like people get fillers. 68 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 2: I don't need all that. It's all oh natural, that's 69 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: called go to Duncan during the day. Yeah, I'm but 70 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 2: I'm really, I'm really of my age. In fact, I 71 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 2: think I'm like I'm technically living like a seventy five 72 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 2: year older. First of all, I have a trick ankle. 73 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: You have a trick mee, I have trick ankle, the 74 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 2: one that like goes crunch when you get out of 75 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: bed and you're just not sure is this the day 76 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 2: when I go down? But yeah, I've been I've been gardening. 77 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 2: It was a real treat for me to get out 78 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 2: of the house and go to the city. But we 79 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 2: saw MJ. The musical and obviously he's like extremely extremely 80 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: complicated man and you know, very complex story, very controversial life. 81 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: But the talent of those performers, I don't know how 82 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 2: And the young man Miles Frost listened to me, that 83 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: young man. No, the my friend, Miles, my peer, my peer, 84 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 2: Miles Frost who plays who plays MJ. Who plays Michael 85 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:25,080 Speaker 2: his Broadway debut, they like plucked him out of obscurity. Incredible, 86 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,159 Speaker 2: like incredible, it was. It was fantastic and they brought 87 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: down the house and I feel like it was a 88 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,119 Speaker 2: really they didn't they did not gloss over the controversial bits. 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: It was like the true story of someone's life, you know, 90 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: like here's what it was, all the warts and all. 91 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 2: But it was very fun to go out in the 92 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: city and you know, be my age. 93 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: I love it. I saw it. I was like, oh 94 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: I saw the picture. I think was it on Instagram? 95 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 1: You posted a picture of Rio in an act of running. 96 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, when is he not running? 97 00:04:53,520 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: I don't know? 98 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:57,559 Speaker 2: From me toward me. Oh yeah, we're gonna talk about 99 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 2: I can't wait to start talking about bad parenting. And 100 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 2: we're gonna and that's. 101 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,039 Speaker 1: Always like trying to make a transition. Well not that 102 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: you're a bad parent, because obviously you're not, but oh. 103 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: No, I got stories. No, I got stories, but I. 104 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: Was gonna ask. Like one of the things I do, 105 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: like with Roman and a Milia Manisse, my nephew that 106 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:15,040 Speaker 1: live close to me, is that I don't post them 107 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: on social but they love to use the filters on 108 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: instant you know, like the dog one at the cat one, 109 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: so they always ask me. I say, I want to 110 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: do the faces. So then we'll do the faces. And 111 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: sometimes I'll record it just to save it to share 112 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: with their mom, like of them, like like the one 113 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: with the sculpted one where it's like hello, and it's 114 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:31,479 Speaker 1: like all it makes. 115 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,160 Speaker 2: Me feel like I should do that with Rio. Why 116 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 2: don't I ever think to. 117 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,600 Speaker 1: Do that with Honestly, love that so much fun, especially 118 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 1: like the animal ones. Oh my gosh, they love it. 119 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: And so but you know, like I said, I don't 120 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: post them on social their mom doesn't want them, you know, 121 00:05:44,279 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: on social media, which obviously I respect and I can understand. 122 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:53,599 Speaker 1: But recently a few things speaking of bad parenting, I 123 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 1: don't know, have you seen, like there's this new challenge 124 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: which is so terrible, And I've seen some terrible challenges 125 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: involving where it's like the scary ghost one. It's a 126 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: filter and this ghost with like red eyes and like 127 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: green hair floats in the background says oooh and has 128 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: makes these terrifying noises, and so people start the recording 129 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: and run out of the room and leave their kid. 130 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:16,719 Speaker 2: They leave the room. 131 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 1: They leave the room. Usually they have the room is 132 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: dark or whatever, and then the kid is like watching, 133 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, like the ghost flying behind them, and so 134 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: they're confused as to whether or not is this happening, 135 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: like really in the room or is it just the 136 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: just the camera. But most of them really believe it's happening, 137 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: and they get terrified and they scream and they clow 138 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 1: the door. It's really bad. And then the parent opens 139 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: it laughing, and I'm like, I don't see what's funny 140 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: about that. But yeah, I don't know if you've seen 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: that challenge, but it's terrible. 142 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,080 Speaker 2: I haven't seen that one, but you did bring up 143 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: one that I had seen, which is when the parents 144 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: are like, someone's trying to fight me. Someone's trying to 145 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 2: fight me. Go outside. I told them you would fight them. 146 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: And the only one I've only seen it once. I 147 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:57,159 Speaker 2: guess I'm not on that side of TikTok that often. 148 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 2: But the little boy who was like he was a 149 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 2: he was the preteen, you know, he wasn't a little 150 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: little kid, and but it was really adorable because he's 151 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: like putting on his shoes. He's like, okay, mom, whatever 152 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 2: I got you, and he just like runs out the door. 153 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: But those pranks are not it like for the most 154 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 2: part with little babies. Now that Rio's old enough, he 155 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: can finally say, like, I just took him to a 156 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 2: theme park this yesterday. It was a brilliant idea that 157 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 2: I had. I have so many like real Instagram versus 158 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 2: reality ideas based on this trip from hell to the 159 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: to the theme park. But I put him on a 160 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 2: ride that I thought it was he was he was 161 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: tall enough, tall enough. Other kids his age were on it. 162 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 2: Whatever you get in a little car. And he was 163 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: looking at me because I was walking away, and he's like, no, 164 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 2: stay and I was like, well, it's only you know, 165 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 2: mommy can't fit. But then he's reaching for me as 166 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: it jerks him around the corner and this boy, poor boy. 167 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 2: I didn't realize it was gonna It's called the whip it, 168 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:51,240 Speaker 2: but I thought. 169 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know that. I don't. 170 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 3: I thought it was just a little car and they 171 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: go in a circle. No, they whip you around the 172 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 3: corner and my baby just see my baby, like poor thing. 173 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: Like I could think he's made out of jello because 174 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 2: he might have had whiplash. He made it two rounds 175 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: and we had to evacuate him. They let me go 176 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 2: back in and pick him up, but he's like, I kaoed, 177 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: I chaoed, And like, as a parent, how could you 178 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: ever want to scare your child? Like, I know, but 179 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: you know, it's a lot of bad, it's a lot 180 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 2: of poor different choices, right, different parenting choices out there. 181 00:08:25,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and so like it kind of leads me to 182 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've ever heard of I Carle. 183 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 1: It was like a really popular Was it Nickelodeon? I 184 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 1: want to say it was on Nickelodeon? Was it Disney? 185 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 2: Was that with Jamie Lovado. 186 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: No, it was with Jenny McCurdy and another young woman. 187 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:46,199 Speaker 1: I forget the name of that, the young woman, but 188 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 1: Jenny McCurdy. Her name or Janette McCurdy, but I think 189 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:51,440 Speaker 1: everbody kind of knew her as Jenny. She was on 190 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: something called I Carle and samon Kat I'm almost I mean, 191 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: look at me getting the Lion. But either way, it 192 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: was on. She was super popular kid star. She just 193 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: wrote a book called I'm Glad my Mom died And 194 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: on the surface, it's like yackers, you know what the title? Yeah, 195 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna lie because the cover of the 196 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: book is hilarious. I mean, if you want to call 197 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:19,440 Speaker 1: the things hilarious. She's looking like oh ah, and she's 198 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: carrying like a pink urn and. 199 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: Oh my god, I know she's the cover. 200 00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: You have to look at the cover and then but 201 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: when you get to she's been doing a lot of 202 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: interviews lately, and when you hear about the abuse, like 203 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 1: every type of abuse you can think of, you're like, oh, 204 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,440 Speaker 1: I can understand why she's glad her mother died because 205 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: her mother had I mean, she had this is just 206 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: a trigger warning, you know, like Ed's eating disorders her 207 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: mother encouraged. But also there were like, you know, I 208 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 1: just want to be mindful because I know some people 209 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: have suffered abuse. Just just think about every type of 210 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: abuse you can think of it just you know, she 211 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 1: didn't want to be an actress an actor. She was 212 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,559 Speaker 1: kind of forced and pulled into it. And you know, 213 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 1: there are laws in place. I'm supposed to protect children, 214 00:10:07,080 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: but obviously, I mean, like even most recently, we hear 215 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: about producers and things that you know, took advantage of children. 216 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,680 Speaker 1: I was watching this interview with Macaulay Colchin how he 217 00:10:18,679 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: talked about how he had no idea what was going 218 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: on home alone. He said, you know, he's like, I 219 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 1: didn't read the script, I didn't choose any of the movies. 220 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: I didn't decide what I was going to do or not. 221 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: It was just kind of like show up and say this, 222 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 1: and he did. There's a law that came into practice 223 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: after so many childhood actors when they grew up had 224 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:38,079 Speaker 1: no money that I think by law they're supposed to 225 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: set away in a special bank account, like fifteen percent 226 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: or something like that, but many of them said that 227 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: nobody reinforces that, and so there's nothing, there's no money 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: left over when it's all said and done. I'm sure 229 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,079 Speaker 1: you've heard of Gary Coleman. He was like Arnold from them. 230 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: Now what's happening from different strokes. So I remember he 231 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: sued his parents, Gary Comteeah, yet that's Gary com And 232 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: then there's also like Webster at times, I believe he 233 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: sued his parents. So it's like, dang, that was literally 234 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: like probably twenty or so years ago, and here this 235 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,959 Speaker 1: one young woman. It was you know, you know, ten 236 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 1: or so years ago and this is still happening. And 237 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: so I just wanted to talk about, like what do 238 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: you So that seems obvious and they're not looking after 239 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,559 Speaker 1: children when your child was on TV or streaming platform. 240 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 1: But what about now with parents who have kids and 241 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 1: they're showcasing them on social media? Like people are monetized. 242 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 2: There this whole family YouTube family. Yes, yes, with kids, 243 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: older kids too. I mean I think we think about 244 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,920 Speaker 2: like the celebrities, and I think we've heard of like 245 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 2: child stars in the context of Hollywood, like Macaulay Culkin 246 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 2: and Lindsay Loewen and like Hillary Duff And you think 247 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:47,200 Speaker 2: about these stars who had their wild years and then 248 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,960 Speaker 2: like Drew Barrymore and how you know how iconic she 249 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 2: was as a baby drug addict and how America was like, yes, 250 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 2: we'll buy more of tabloids with her on the cover. 251 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: But I think what you bring up is like the 252 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: social media families, the social media children who aren't in 253 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 2: traditional Like yeah, in the traditional architecture of child stars 254 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:16,080 Speaker 2: as we know it, but it's similar, like their parents 255 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 2: are like, it's not a microphone and a stage, it's 256 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: an iPhone and a tripod, you know. And I do 257 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 2: think about that as a mom. I mean, the occasional 258 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: cute photo of Rio is one thing, but having him 259 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 2: be the star, not to say that I don't enjoy 260 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: some accounts where you know, it is mommies and kids, 261 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: especially the ones where they're teaching about parenting and stuff. 262 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 2: But it's you want those kids to be protected. But 263 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,359 Speaker 2: I can't think unless TikTok or these social media platforms 264 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: start putting warnings or taking down accounts where they have concerns, 265 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 2: the long term consequences of that, I think are a 266 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:58,080 Speaker 2: lot harder to pinpoint as like this child's in danger, 267 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, very likely they're not going 268 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 2: to have the parents like, they're only going to post 269 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 2: what is like what they want to be seen. 270 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there was there was one woman I forget 271 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: her name, and I didn't want to say her name 272 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: because I'm I mean, not that she's not deserving, but 273 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: her and her husband they wanted to adopt a special 274 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: child with special needs, and so they followed this a 275 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 1: whole big story on them they followed I remember this, Yeah, yes, 276 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,439 Speaker 1: so they did. They found you know, which it's commendable, 277 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 1: which I was like, okay, But then you start to 278 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: quickly realize that she wanted to adopt a child with 279 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: special needs for the content because she already had like 280 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: a you know, a family, and so she specifically wanted 281 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: a child with special needs. She specifically wanted a child 282 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 1: from the Asian country I believe with special needs. So 283 00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: she did so. And like children with special needs are 284 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: apt to do, they needed a lot of special attention. 285 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: And she basically gave that child back, which the level 286 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: of trauma, you know, and and there was something was 287 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: so crazy. Reasons she said, is which is so crazy 288 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: is that like within the first year of like an 289 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: I guess, like pre adoption, that they told her that 290 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: you're not allowed to post this child on social media, 291 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: you know, because you have to get them like you know, 292 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: acclimated or whatever. And she fought that rule. She said, 293 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: but like my family and I we make our money 294 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: be on social media, and I think it's unfair for 295 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: that rule for us. Can you imagine and not like 296 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 1: you have all no one, Oh my goodness, sometimes. 297 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 2: Process they don't want you to post. And she was 298 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: fighting it. 299 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: Yes, because it was going to be part of her 300 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: content to say, look at us the saviors of this child. 301 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 1: And then but the child like really everything from like 302 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: what you would expect, because the child, you know, went 303 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,000 Speaker 1: hungry for a very long time, so they would hide 304 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: food in their room. You know, they would steal for 305 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: the refrigerator when they were sleeping because this child is 306 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: like I don't know what I'm gonna eat again, because 307 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: that's that's been my experience. You know, the child was aggressive. 308 00:14:58,520 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: But these are things like when I worked, I knew her. 309 00:15:01,280 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: There were some children that I remember, in particular, one 310 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: little girl who was her Her mother used drugs while 311 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 1: she was pregnant with her, and so I had to 312 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: learn all what kind of behavior to expect from her. 313 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: She was like really really clingy sometimes too, she would 314 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 1: fly off the handle, get very angry. She was always afraid. 315 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: She needed reassurance a lot. I remember, like for the 316 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: first month or two, I used to just carry her 317 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: on my hip everywhere, and I remember like the state 318 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 1: came in and they like mark me down for points, 319 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: saying that like you can't carry her, and I'm like 320 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm going to like she needed like the real It 321 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: took about I want to say, three or four months 322 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: before she realized it's safe in this classroom. It's safe 323 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: in this classroom. And the only way she could, like 324 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: literally everywhere I went except for the bathroom, she was 325 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: on my hip. It was like if I sat down 326 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: to do circle times. She's on my hip if I 327 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: did anything I did, And because after doing research, I 328 00:15:52,840 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: realized that like she needed like the she's only three, 329 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: she needed the ultimate of reassurance, you know. And so 330 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what that must be like 331 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: when you have to take a child home, but you 332 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: know that you know. And so it's like and but 333 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: you hear all these horror stories about like these these 334 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: kind of like parents, especially YouTube, you know, because I 335 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: feel like social media and you know, the smaller clips, 336 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: but some there are literally some YouTube channels where it's 337 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: about the full family. And there's nothing wrong with that, 338 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: because I know there's there's a lot of positive ones, 339 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:29,280 Speaker 1: but I do wonder, you know, what happens when that 340 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: child is ten, eleven, twelve and might say I don't 341 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: want to be on camera anymore. 342 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 2: And way, yeah, the families. 343 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 3: There's also like where it's just the kids and it's 344 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 3: like like the videos that Rio watches on YouTube. 345 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 2: There's like little boys opening presence, opening toys or like 346 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 2: playing with toys, and they have these huge channels, and 347 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,880 Speaker 2: I how can we be sure that their parents are 348 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 2: like or what's to protect them so that their parents 349 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 2: are because YouTube, of course you earn from that. They 350 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 2: have like tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands of millions 351 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 2: of subscribers. Sometimes they must be making moneys. 352 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 1: That Ryan got that Ryan little boy, he was like 353 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: nine years old, was making twenty million dollars a year, Mandy, 354 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: twenty one million. You're like, wait, hold on, Rio, so 355 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: you should have opened a presence. 356 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: Yes, he's just gotten into the little kids opening toys. 357 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: Before that, it was like super truck. 358 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: Yes, I don't know what it's a little boy named Ryan. 359 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if he still does this, but it started, 360 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: baby boy. No, it started because his grandparents didn't live 361 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: near him and his family, so his mom would record 362 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 1: him opening his Christmas presents and stuff and say thank 363 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:39,360 Speaker 1: you so much, and then posted it on you know YouTube, 364 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: thinking no one's gonna watch it. I'm just gonna send 365 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,560 Speaker 1: it to grandma, and then other kids, you know, just 366 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: started to be like, hey, it started watching, but yeah, 367 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: you should google Ryan. At one point, I don't know 368 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: what he's doing now, but he was making upwards of 369 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars a year actor. Yeah, so that's what 370 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: you start to think, like there's no laws in place. 371 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: I mean the laws that are in place for child 372 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: actors to protect their finances and their mental health and things, 373 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: even that's not being seen through so let alone for 374 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 1: like social media. So I think it's gonna be really interesting. 375 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: It's almost like how you know, when it first came 376 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 1: out and you could be like I love this water, 377 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 1: and then the FTC was like, oh that's cute girl 378 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: hashtag sponsored hashtag Yeah, yeah, you know, and so because 379 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: it was such a like such new territory that we 380 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 1: were moving into. So I think like, this is new territory, 381 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 1: and I think that like her book might open up, like, 382 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: you know, the conversation of like, wait a minute, what 383 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: is really happening with child actors and not just child actors, 384 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: but like the social media family and personalities and kids 385 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: and are they being protected financially? Are they being protected emotionally? 386 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: Because it's just like the wild wild West out here, you. 387 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: Know, that's very different than like I feel like every 388 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,360 Speaker 2: other week I see another social media post about how 389 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 2: if you have children, put them on your payroll, Like 390 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: if you have an LLC or company, put the kids 391 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 2: on your payroll so that you can pay them. And 392 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 2: then I think for that too, like it's up to 393 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 2: the parent, but making sure that those funds actually are 394 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: put aside for the kid, right, not just to benefit 395 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: you the business owner, but actually to save and invest 396 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 2: for your child. Yeah, you're right. I mean I think 397 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 2: that we take for granted that we approach things from 398 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 2: like how can we protect and care for the children? 399 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: But there are like desperate people, greedy people who get 400 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 2: swept up and they're little. They have their little cash 401 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: cows and yeah they and this young woman Jeannette Jeannette 402 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 2: McCourty yah, yes, literally where like they become breadwinners for 403 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 2: their family. And that's such a fucked up dynamic to me. 404 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: I can't how do you? How do That's just it's 405 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:47,920 Speaker 2: like it's just not normal. 406 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: Kid. You are not equipped to manage what that means 407 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: to be the breadwinner for your family, what that means 408 00:19:53,359 --> 00:19:55,639 Speaker 1: to have fame. She said, you're not equip You don't 409 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: have the tools. She said, it's hard enough for adults. 410 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: But she's like, you just don't have the tool. And 411 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: then you know, the people that you lean on to trust, 412 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,439 Speaker 1: that's all you can do is hope that they do 413 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: you right. You know, Like remember Charlie the de Millio. 414 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: She was the number one follow up person on TikTok 415 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: and they had a Hulu show and you kind of 416 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: got to see it behind the scenes. When I tell you, 417 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: I was so sad for that girl because you see 418 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: that like she really loved dancing. And then you see 419 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: that she's having like meeting with like the family business 420 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: manager and it's like they have these big thick folders 421 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,120 Speaker 1: of all the things her years planned out. You can 422 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 1: see in her face because at the time she's a teenager, 423 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: like sixteen seven, you're not even seventeen, like fifteen, sixteen, 424 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: whatever in that age range, and she's like, am I 425 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: gonna have time for dance and they're like, well, we'll see. 426 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:42,120 Speaker 3: Ah. 427 00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: I could just see her face like Okay. 428 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 2: Like the thing is like some kids want it and 429 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,919 Speaker 2: they'll beg for it. They want to be on social media, 430 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 2: they want to do the dances and be famous on TikTok. 431 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,919 Speaker 2: And I think it's our job best parents to like 432 00:20:56,400 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 2: say no, have boundaries for their own and you know what, 433 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 2: form protection and you know what also I'm thinking of 434 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: as you're saying, this is a couple of things. One 435 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:06,879 Speaker 2: of course, I just saw the MJ story on the 436 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 2: musical on Broadway. And then Serena Williams, she came out 437 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: on the cover of was a Vanity Farrier Vogue. I 438 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: just recently she came out. She was on the cover 439 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: with Olympia, her daughter, and to announce her retirement Vogue. Yeah, 440 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 2: let's put some respect on Vogue. And she looks stunning, 441 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: my god, with the little Olympia holding her train. But 442 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:31,680 Speaker 2: she was there to announce her retirement from tennis. And 443 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 2: you know, and I think it's in that interview or 444 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: another one that she gave recently Amymbia. Was that one 445 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 2: where she was basically saying, like parenting styles today, like 446 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 2: that's not what made me a superstar. It's not what 447 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: made me like the greatest athlete of all time. And 448 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 2: when I look at Michael Jackson's story and how physically, emotionally, 449 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 2: verbally abusive his father was and to him especially and 450 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 2: drilling him in with the idea of perfect that's why 451 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 2: Michael was so good at what he did. And that's 452 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 2: why Serena, I mean, I don't know serena story. I 453 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 2: don't think, no, not at all. It wasn't as bad 454 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,800 Speaker 2: as that, but still, like I don't know if we 455 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: can even have another MJ or Serena because of how 456 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 2: parenting has evolved. You know, there's no way in hades 457 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: that I'm gonna let rio Like, you know, I just 458 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:23,959 Speaker 2: feel like we have much more information and we are 459 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 2: the byproduct of that kind of parenting style. So many 460 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 2: of us gen X, gen y, gen Z. That I mean, 461 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: not that we're not going to have great talents, but 462 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 2: I think it's just like, how do we still cultivate 463 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:42,520 Speaker 2: that great talent and success without the abuse, the pain, 464 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 2: you know, sacrifice hard because you're babies. 465 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: Do you get that right? Do you get that next? 466 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: That what costs? 467 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: That question? And it's crazy because now so I when 468 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 1: I came back and invest fast, not gon people do 469 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:57,560 Speaker 1: business out there, but girl at least three or four 470 00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,480 Speaker 1: people who are what I call the grurul like g 471 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: u or or ls. So what I call the girls 472 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: is like you know, those people being it's like, you know, 473 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: I made a million dollars and thirty minutes or like 474 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: you know, my my, you know, like you know, I 475 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 1: could probably classify myself one of the girls back in 476 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: the day, you know, where it's like you know, you 477 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: see them and you're like, oh my gosh, you know, 478 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:22,160 Speaker 1: they're they're doing so amazing. They're making a lot of money, 479 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: everything's so great, but behind the scenes, the girls is 480 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: suffering and and so like, you know, so I like 481 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: about four of the girls came up to me and 482 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,520 Speaker 1: investments and after so like some of these really big, 483 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: well known business owners that were like, hey, Tiffany, how 484 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,359 Speaker 1: you doing. I'm really miserable. And I'm like what. They're like, 485 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm really, I'm really miserable. Can I talk to you? 486 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, I always feel like I still 487 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: have this set of my preschool teacherself on me because 488 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: that happens a lot, I know, for real. And they're 489 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 1: just like, Tiffany, Yes, And I'm just like you know, 490 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: and I said, let me guess you're overworked and overwhelmed 491 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: and you're making a lot of money, but you feel 492 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: locked in and you look at your calendar and you say, 493 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 1: who made these choices? I don't even have to say 494 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: what my day looks like. They're like, yes, yes, I said, 495 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: how do you know? I was like, because I lived 496 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,719 Speaker 1: there for a while, and you don't know how to 497 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: break yourself free, because you're like, this is the way 498 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: you make your money, so if you don't, if you stop, 499 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 1: you won't make any money. They're like, yes, yes, yes, 500 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: and I said yes. They're like, but you seem good now, 501 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: and I said, I am. This is aside from Jerrell 502 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: not big being here, this is the happiest I've been 503 00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: in business since probably the first time I started my business. 504 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,840 Speaker 1: Because I'm not overworked and overwhelmed. I don't look at 505 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: my calendar and think to myself, how did I get here? 506 00:24:49,440 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 1: What are all these things on here? I don't want 507 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,439 Speaker 1: to do these things I had already been like two 508 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 1: years ago. I started the transition to get away from that, 509 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: because that's why I'd hired Zion, my business coach, and 510 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 1: I hired Doctor to Green because I said, I can't 511 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: continue like this. Something has to give. So I'd already 512 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: been doing the work. But when Jirell passed away the 513 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: stuff that I was tip towarding, tiptoeing toward, I just 514 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 1: threw it out the window. I was like, yeah, so 515 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm actually not tiptoeing. It's over. I'm not doing that. 516 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: What about Nope? Because you know, perspective was like on 517 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: a hundred and so for all of them, I kind 518 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: of was just like, I'm not going to pretend like 519 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: you're not going to have to make big choices, Like 520 00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: you know, it's not gonna It's okay to start with 521 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: a tiptoe, but you're gonna have to make some big choices. 522 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,199 Speaker 1: It might be letting go of staff, which is never 523 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: easy or pleasant. It might be dropping a specific business model, 524 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: like one woman in particular. She said she hated this 525 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: one business model, And I said, then why do you 526 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 1: do it? She said, because it makes money. I said, 527 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 1: does your other business model make money? She said yes, 528 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: I said, she said, but not as much as this one. 529 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: I said, but if you don't do the current business model, 530 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: will you be homeless? No? Will you be hungry? No? 531 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: Will your family suffered financially in a significant way. No, 532 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: You'll just make less money and be happier. She was like, yeah, 533 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: But I said, I get it because it's not and 534 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 1: it's honestly not really about the money. That I found, 535 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 1: Mandy is that if you're one of the girls and 536 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,920 Speaker 1: you hang out with the girls all the time, I mean, no, 537 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: don't And I say, I've never joined it. I've just 538 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: I've definitely do it outside of looking in But then 539 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: I saw myself with some girl tendencies. I was like, oh, 540 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 1: we gotta you know, we gotta switch this up, because 541 00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: all of us can have grural tendencies, you know, and 542 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: but do not because what happens when you joined the 543 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: official girls club, whether a man or a woman or otherwise, 544 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: they and not because they're bad people, not at all. 545 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: They normalize this feeling of get it because it can 546 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: be getting gotten, you know. And so she was like 547 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,439 Speaker 1: in that space where she was just like, oh my gosh. 548 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: And I asked her, I said, because there was like 549 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: all these behind the scenes like dinners and whatever that 550 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,360 Speaker 1: I was not invited to. But that's okoy, like invest best. 551 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: And I said, so when you were there, I know, 552 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: I said, when you were there, felt happy to you. 553 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: And she was like like next to none. This one 554 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 1: person was telling me how they keep breaking into their 555 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 1: house and because you know, they kind of wear their 556 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: wealth outwardly, they keep so they have to have twenty 557 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: four hour security. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah partnered and it 558 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 1: has children. So it's like, you've worked so hard to 559 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:31,080 Speaker 1: build a successful business, to achieve freedom for your family 560 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: and yourself, only to live in a cage. And I 561 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 1: was just like and then when I tell you, Mandy, 562 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 1: I've never seen more bodyguards ever in my life, you know, 563 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,280 Speaker 1: like we've been. 564 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 2: To a girl doesn't have a bodyguard. 565 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 1: Girl. I'm not here to say no names, but I'm just, oh, sorry. 566 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 2: I think that's all that I'm social. 567 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:57,919 Speaker 3: I'm like I did, yeah, but I'm saying it's not 568 00:27:58,000 --> 00:27:58,520 Speaker 3: on social. 569 00:27:58,560 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 2: How else would I know that? 570 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just I'm keeping it light. But I'm just 571 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: saying yes because it is on social. 572 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 2: But a fans only coming for hugs, right, I mean 573 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: when I tell you we're not gonna get john'snow, it's. 574 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 1: It was crazy, like literally, and you know, man, we 575 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: have been to a lot of conferences, and this is 576 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,880 Speaker 1: the first time, ever, ever, ever that I have seen 577 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:24,280 Speaker 1: the majority of people with bodyguards. And I was thinking, like, 578 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 1: oh man, it just seems so I don't even even know. 579 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,400 Speaker 1: I felt sad because I thought you worked so hard, 580 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 1: you make all this money, and then you live with 581 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: at least a sense of fear, And I'm just like, 582 00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: how do we get here? Yeah? And so like, I mean, 583 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 1: because you know, we talk about you know, me and 584 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 1: many talk about business and things all the time, and 585 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 1: it's like everyone doesn't navigate from that space, right, So 586 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: some of it is also like what you put out there, 587 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: you want to make sure, like me, you know, you 588 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: could be successful and you know, but you're not gonna 589 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: see me and the Lamborghini, Which is no shame shade 590 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 1: to that. It's just that, like, you know, I want 591 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: I don't. I think Lamberghi. They're mostly stick shift. I 592 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 1: can't drive stick Plus it's not the kind of car 593 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: that I would want for myself anyway. But knowing that, 594 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: you know, if that's on the outside, if you got 595 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: a you know, one hundred thousand dollars chain or watch 596 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:12,760 Speaker 1: on because you know a lot of the guys like 597 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: to wear like these really expensive watches. So then and 598 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm not saying you shouldn't have those things, but what 599 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying is know that there's a trade off for 600 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: when you present those things publicly, that then it entices 601 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: people who don't have to come and get it from you. 602 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, when I tell you and I've gotten a quote, 603 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: like I asked one of the girls, how much you 604 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: know twenty four hour security costs at minimum, you're looking 605 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: at ten thousand dollars a month. Mandy you're looking about 606 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,280 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars a month for twenty four hour security, 607 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: you know, is. 608 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 2: It threats like that? And it makes me sad. I 609 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 2: mean I feel like last week, well I know you 610 00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: were sick last week we were talking about INVESTM Fest. 611 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: I think at one point you were like, it was 612 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 2: it was beautiful, like black and brown people together under 613 00:29:53,720 --> 00:29:56,080 Speaker 2: one roof, no drama, no nothing. And I'm like, is 614 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: that because everyone like I'm like a seven foot tall 615 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 2: bodyguarded every corner. But no. But in all serious sense, 616 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 2: it makes me sad because like what is being sold? Yeah, 617 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 2: invest for what exactly? I thought it was health, happiness, wholeness, 618 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 2: you know, live the life that you want. But we're 619 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 2: always I mean, this is America, right, so I shouldn't 620 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 2: be so naive to us as to assume and and 621 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: I know, I mean I see it in Black American culture, 622 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: even in you know, now being a part of a 623 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 2: Dominican American family. In that culture, the bells, the whistles, 624 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,400 Speaker 2: the glitz, the gland, the trappings of that, and that 625 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 2: is still predominantly the stuff that people want and they 626 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 2: associate with success. 627 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: And I think as. 628 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 2: Long as that is the case, you will have misery. 629 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: Thank goodness for you. I thought the. 630 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 3: Girls were us No, no, no, I feel like, no, you 631 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 3: can have my schedule because of between listening to you 632 00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 3: talk about entrepreneurship and your journey forever, plus the fact 633 00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 3: that I'm just a lazy leo at heart, like I'm 634 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 3: not working harder than I need to. 635 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: Yes, my hours are ten the three, and I will 636 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 2: make it work. And I've become really good at saying 637 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 2: no to stuff that I've just been like, well that 638 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: doesn't sound like fun thousand bucks here, I'm like, I'm tired, yeah, lazy, lying, Okay. 639 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 1: No, But I loved that for you because it's like, 640 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: because here's the thing that I've learned. If you are 641 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: if you work hard, I mean it's part of it. 642 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: But if you're consistent and you are you know, strategic, 643 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: you know, then you're gonna be fine. You can make 644 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 1: things work within whatever parameters that you said, Like, I 645 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: love to see like my sister Tracy, you know, she 646 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: started her PR company like two years ago, and she's said, 647 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: you know, I never thought about it because I was 648 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: asking her, like what do you do on Friday? She's like, 649 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: I get my hair done and I was like, yeah, 650 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: what else. She's like, you know what, Tiffany, because of 651 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: listening to you, and I know you take Fridays off. 652 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: You know, I took Fridays off almost from the very beginning. 653 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: And it's like she's like, I didn't even think. You know, 654 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 1: it took me years to get to a place of 655 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 1: Fridays off because I didn't think I could do that. 656 00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: And she's like, you know, I've got a multi six 657 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 1: figure business as a result, but I can take Fridays off. 658 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: And I just thought, and that's what I'm wanting. Like 659 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: when I say the girls, I mean it's the you 660 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: make big money, but secretly you're having a hard time. 661 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,080 Speaker 1: And I have definitely been one of the girls. And 662 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 1: I was like, oh no, although I wasn't part of 663 00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: the click click, which helped me to step away, because 664 00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 1: the click will keep you in bondage because they will 665 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: tell you, like I said, not because from a place 666 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 1: of a bad place. They want to motivate each other. Girl, 667 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:23,959 Speaker 1: if you did this, you could get to eight figures 668 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 1: this year, you could get to twenty million. And you're like, 669 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: I could. I could, And it is great to have 670 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: peers push you to to be your best, But I 671 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 1: want to challenge what does best will mean to me? 672 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: Your best is healthy, happy, whole success. 673 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 2: I want my three little cucumbers. I want to water 674 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: the plants, you know, I want to. That's why I'm 675 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: lifestyle inflation and trying to keep that at bay. I'm 676 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 2: glad that my life has like I've never and I 677 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: think very much you too, Like we just have kept 678 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 2: it humble as far as the cost of our life, 679 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 2: like our noodle budgets, you know what I mean. Like 680 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: I feel like on like I don't have I don't 681 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: feel the pressure. Yes, I'm still breadwinner, but I don't 682 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: feel the pressure to go at an at an unsustainable 683 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 2: pace because of how much the life costs me. And 684 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 2: I'm so like, I'm just desperate to protect that, Like 685 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 2: I want to protect it so that I can be 686 00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: I can I can watch Love Island for an hour 687 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,120 Speaker 2: before I pick up Rio to like get my mind 688 00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: on straight and come home and play with him for 689 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 2: three hours and not you know, like, yeah, so I 690 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 2: think you set that example. We have to set that example, 691 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: like so many people need to hear that message. 692 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. So if you're listening in one of the grules 693 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,400 Speaker 1: and you want to step out, come on over. You 694 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: could call me. 695 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: I'll give you a place. 696 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:43,200 Speaker 1: Yes, I always like you used to. It was written 697 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, hella, I can get my number. 698 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: They're like I heard that. It's so like yeah. So 699 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: I'm glad though, because what that tells me is that 700 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: people wanted to break free from that they're redifining success. 701 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:04,600 Speaker 2: So we will be right back with boost or break, y'all. 702 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:05,480 Speaker 1: And now it's time to boost up, break up, boost up, 703 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:11,600 Speaker 1: break up, boost break. Girl, I'm gonna break real quick, 704 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,359 Speaker 1: and that's what I'm gonna break upon. I am tired 705 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 1: of coffee. I'm tired. 706 00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:18,479 Speaker 2: I was just about to say, don't jinx it because 707 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: you haven't confidence and you've been talking most of the shows. 708 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: I have been holding it in like I'm like, hey, 709 00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: I'm so tired of coughing. And we said this earlier, 710 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 1: but I think it's kind of funny. I'm tired of 711 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,280 Speaker 1: coffee because I keep peeling up myself. 712 00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 2: Girl, you need to get listen. I have been, like 713 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,280 Speaker 2: I told you, like, I've been to aisles of CBS 714 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 2: that I just had never like they were the horror 715 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 2: Like that's like the back of the store. I don't 716 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: want to go down the aisle. That aisle is not 717 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:49,080 Speaker 2: for me. I have that childbirth put me down that aisle. 718 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 2: And I think any woman, no matter what your body 719 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 2: like age gravity, it turns on. Yes, like because this 720 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,880 Speaker 2: coughing fits, I just like I had COVID. It was 721 00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 2: like depends all day. 722 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: I just love a pan because I'm just like, I'm 723 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 1: not even on my my mensis, as the old ladies 724 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: will saying, because literally I have to choose a struggle. 725 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 1: Am I gonna call? Or am I gonna practice these keeggles? 726 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: Because normally, you know, no normal every day you know, 727 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: a sneeze and a cough, you could feel it coming, 728 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: and then you prepare yourself. You're like here it comes okay, 729 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: and tighten no, because these coughing fits can literally come 730 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 1: from nowhere. I mean, I'm just like, I just don't. 731 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:29,879 Speaker 2: Good thing you work from home. 732 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,360 Speaker 1: There goes another one, and so like, yes, I I 733 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 1: rebuke thee, the cough and the weak bladder. I would 734 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,759 Speaker 1: like to take a very big brown break from both. 735 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:45,840 Speaker 1: I am tired. I'm tired, like I actually feel better, 736 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 1: like you know, I don't feel sick, but like this 737 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 1: coffee is this dry arid cough. Literally it's dry on top, 738 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:54,520 Speaker 1: wet at the bottom. So yes, that is my. 739 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 2: Humidifiers that I slept next to one that really helped. 740 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,160 Speaker 1: Oh, you're right, you know what, I think I have 741 00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,120 Speaker 1: one because see right it is dry because my chest 742 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: is feeling like ugh, So I think I'm going to 743 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: get I'm gonna whip out my humidifire. But yes, my 744 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,600 Speaker 1: brown boost is just COVID. You suck. You filed the 745 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,439 Speaker 1: animal and you came. You snuck it in the middle 746 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,200 Speaker 1: of the night. This is my first real bout with COVID. 747 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:18,279 Speaker 1: I think I had COVID very early on, just because 748 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: I lost my tastes, my sense of taste and smell 749 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: like that January before COVID was like, like, you know 750 00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: I did, yeah, probably probably, So I remember being like 751 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: that's weird, maybe because I thought I had the flu. 752 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,240 Speaker 1: So I had a really like I got like a cold. 753 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 1: It was the only feeling bad for maybe like a 754 00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: day or two. I remember I was sweating one night 755 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: really really bad. I woke up like a puddle of water. 756 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: And then maybe a week later I lost my sense 757 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 1: of taste and smell, and I was like, that's a 758 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: new flu symtem and then two months later COVID hit 759 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, wait, was that covid? This was 760 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: probably it was, but this is my first like knowing 761 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,680 Speaker 1: about with COVID. So I am brown boost breaking this 762 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:59,640 Speaker 1: damn covid. But thank God for tea and vitamins and 763 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: rat and you know, it's one of the things where 764 00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: I really am grateful that I finally stepped away from 765 00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: not having control of my calendar, not having control over 766 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: my life. You're like the business takeover because I was 767 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,200 Speaker 1: literally able to wipe the whole week. Like I think 768 00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: all I did was really like brand ambition, and I 769 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: was able to wipe the whole week clean because I 770 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: have choices and I'm actually leaning into those choices that 771 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,839 Speaker 1: I've always had. 772 00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 2: So well, I am so glad that you're feeling better. 773 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 2: It's coming. Are we at the stage now where we're 774 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 2: grateful to have it instead of monkey pops? 775 00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:29,479 Speaker 1: Girl? 776 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? Because monkey pox looks pain. 777 00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: Girl. 778 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 2: I can't ouch blessed to anyone who's dealing with that. Yeah, 779 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 2: I'm really glad that you're on I'm glad that you're 780 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,839 Speaker 2: on the mend. And oh yeah, I was gonna tell 781 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 2: you the Honeypop pads amazing. I get that's like menthol 782 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,879 Speaker 2: cooling element. They're probably terrible for you because they say 783 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 2: nothing sented down there. But when I need a little 784 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,399 Speaker 2: when I've gone off my little walks or my jump rope, 785 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,040 Speaker 2: oh no, I either need my Honeypop pad or I 786 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 2: finally invested in those forty dollars underwear that you're supposed 787 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 2: to wear for pe periods now. And I'm not even 788 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,240 Speaker 2: gonna do that thing where we talk about lady business 789 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: and we say listen to our male listeners, We're sorry. 790 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:06,000 Speaker 1: You know. 791 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: We got to comment and well maybe I should share 792 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:08,839 Speaker 2: it in our Q and A. This week we got 793 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 2: to comment from a listener who was like, you know what, 794 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,520 Speaker 2: you guys make me feel bad every time you discount men. 795 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 2: I'm a male listener, I'm a fan. We're out here, 796 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 2: don't insult. Okay, Well what that. 797 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,440 Speaker 1: Hey, male listener? I cough at ip on myself and 798 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: I'm wearing a path. You should know these, yes, because 799 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 1: and when we jump rope, Yes, I'm either wearing a 800 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: pad or what a toilet isssue down there? Because I 801 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,719 Speaker 1: know that I'm gonna release a little something roll. 802 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 2: Okay, do you want to snatched or do you know 803 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,000 Speaker 2: what I mean? Like you can't have it both ways? 804 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 2: Do you want to snatched and not in a puddle 805 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 2: of our own urine? Or like what do you want? 806 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,400 Speaker 2: Like what do you want from us? Because like things cost. 807 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying. 808 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 2: My listeners, Okay, let me get to my Let me 809 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,680 Speaker 2: get to my boost. I'm going to do a boost. 810 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:52,759 Speaker 1: There. 811 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 2: There's some data. I've been waiting for data on the 812 00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,000 Speaker 2: Great Resignation. I was curious just for my own anecdotes. 813 00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I talk to women every damn day, 814 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 2: which is amazing a privilege about their journey through the 815 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,919 Speaker 2: Great Resignation. And of course I stress all the time. 816 00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 2: You know, just because everyone else is quitting doesn't mean 817 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:11,680 Speaker 2: that you should be quitting. That being said, data has 818 00:39:11,800 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 2: just come out from the Pew Research Center that shows 819 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:15,399 Speaker 2: da da da. 820 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 3: Da, you can actually quit your way. Rich I wasn't lying, okay. 821 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 2: So Pew looked at what percentage of workers saw a 822 00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,840 Speaker 2: wage increase over the last year by jumping to a 823 00:39:28,880 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 2: new employer versus people who stayed with the same employer. 824 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 2: And I will put the caveat here that a lot 825 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 2: of people who stayed at work got wage increases, but 826 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 2: they were like inflation, like cost of living, little bumps 827 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 2: and things like that. But the vast majority, sixty percent 828 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 2: of people who got a new job took a new 829 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 2: job and quit in the last year in twenty twenty two, 830 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: sixty percent saw a wage increase versus just less than 831 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:57,800 Speaker 2: half less than half who stay with their employer actually 832 00:39:57,880 --> 00:40:02,120 Speaker 2: saw a wage increase. So out to my quitters out there, 833 00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 2: get out there securing the bag. That being said, I 834 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,759 Speaker 2: saw another stat also from Pew, something like twenty five 835 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,400 Speaker 2: percent of workers who quit said they regretted their choice. 836 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 2: So I wanted to highlight Yeah, I wanted to highlight 837 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: that one. I think, like taking any job, whether you've 838 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,520 Speaker 2: quit and you've took taken a new job or whatnot, 839 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 2: like there's always a chance that it may not be 840 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,839 Speaker 2: the right fit, you know, there's always in hindsight's twenty 841 00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,680 Speaker 2: twenty and my thing is always wanting to encourage people 842 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 2: that you can make the best decision with the information 843 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: that you have now. But I always encourage people to 844 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 2: not make a decision in haste or make a decision 845 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 2: because they think that a new job's going to solve 846 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,600 Speaker 2: a core issue that they may have with their current job, 847 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,600 Speaker 2: because it may be something that is either they can 848 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 2: work out at their current job or something that they 849 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 2: actually are contributing to and it just carries over to 850 00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 2: the next job. But really like sitting with yourself and 851 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 2: making sure that you were taking a new opportunity for 852 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: the right reasons. And at the same time, if you 853 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,480 Speaker 2: do up in a situation where you're like, hmm, you know, 854 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:04,359 Speaker 2: I took this new job. It's not the best fit 855 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,799 Speaker 2: for me. I realized that, Okay, get on up and 856 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,360 Speaker 2: you can do it again. Like sometimes we make decisions 857 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 2: and we got to pivot afterward because we realize, Okay, 858 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,240 Speaker 2: I did the best thing with the information that I had. 859 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:16,520 Speaker 2: And now that you've been in the job, now you 860 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 2: have information you never could have had when you were 861 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 2: just you know, on the outside looking in. So to 862 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:23,360 Speaker 2: anyone who's sitting in a job right now that you 863 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,160 Speaker 2: took during the Great Resignation and you're thinking, ah, this 864 00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,719 Speaker 2: is not for me, my only message to you is 865 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 2: just that's okay, you can find a new opportunity again. 866 00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: You know, you didn't do anything wrong. You took a chance, 867 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 2: and that's all right, all right, So don't beat yourself up. 868 00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:42,319 Speaker 2: Just use it as information to guide you to your 869 00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 2: next best decision as far as your career, and you know, 870 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 2: get a wage increase while you're at it. That's my 871 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 2: boost you. Okay, tiff, I saw that. I saw that 872 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: coffin fit. 873 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:54,560 Speaker 1: That's what you've been doing. You've been muting, muting. 874 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,919 Speaker 2: That's why I'm like, I haven't heard any callings, just. 875 00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: Like our roller fit was like, So, okay, that is 876 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:06,640 Speaker 1: the Brown Bruce Brown break Huta. 877 00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:08,279 Speaker 2: That's a shot. 878 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,440 Speaker 1: Don't forget though, you know, we have baqwa I'm on Friday, 879 00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: So keep asking your questions dm us on social Brownepitcheon 880 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,560 Speaker 1: podcast dot com click like ask us anything. We love 881 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: answering questions and we'll see you in a few days. Yeah, 882 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,280 Speaker 1: that's our show. 883 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:31,880 Speaker 2: That's it. Bye bye, ba fam, Hey ba fam. We 884 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,279 Speaker 2: could not do this show without your support or the 885 00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 2: support of our team behind the scenes. The Brown em 886 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 2: Mission podcast is produced by Cumulus Podcast Network. It's edited 887 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,719 Speaker 2: by the wonderful Emani Crosby and produced by Tanya Bustos. 888 00:42:45,080 --> 00:42:48,359 Speaker 2: Dennis Stimplinsky is our in house tech guru, and I 889 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 2: am Bandy Woodrid Santos your co host, and I will 890 00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 2: see y'all next week.