1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. The third hour of Playing Buck is 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: here right now, everybody, In case you missed the big 4 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: breaking news, I am married, very excited. Got married over 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: the weekend. Big breaking news for me. For the rest 6 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: of you get a lot of you have been married 7 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: for like thirty forty fifty years, but you know it's 8 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: exciting stuff. Play You're going on the honeymoon Thursday. Yeah, 9 00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: how much? How much packing are you doing for the honeymoon? Like, 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: you have a big trip. You're going all the way 11 00:00:32,200 --> 00:00:34,200 Speaker 1: to the South Pacific. This is like a twenty four 12 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: hour trip. I don't want I want to jinks anything. 13 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: So I don't want this happens like Carrie getting nervous. 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: My concern on taking any trip. I hate checking any 15 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: bags because I just presume that all my stuff's gonna 16 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: get lost. And so when you're going, you're not okay. 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: It's just books in bathing suits, my man, That's all 18 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm breaking with me, all right? I respect. So the 19 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 1: big fear. So we're going to Italy now nex month 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: for the kids spring break. I've never been to Italy. 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: I cannot wait and so my wife is arguing, and 22 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 1: God bless her that we're all going to have one bag. 23 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: Nobody's checking anything because we have to make a bunch 24 00:01:16,319 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: of different flights. Everybody knows how chaotic all that stuff 25 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: can be. And my opinion on travel like this buck 26 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 1: is worst case. If you have your phone and you 27 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 1: have like your passport and your wallet, those are really 28 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: the only things you need because you can always go 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: buy more clothes, Like what if you don't have to 30 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: even like the clothes, like to wear them. My big 31 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: fear is getting missing flights, one which throws the entire 32 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 1: vacation into an uproar, but two losing those bags, especially 33 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: as we've seen lately how chaotic air travel has been. 34 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: It's curious for the big honeymoon whether you're even going 35 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 1: to roll the dice given that you're taking a big trip. 36 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: So we're gonna see how it all goes. Clay, You're 37 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: gonna be in charge. As I always say, no wild 38 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: parties here on the show while I'm gone clean up 39 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: the kegs. Let's not let anything get too crazy. You know, 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: brings in Phoenix for Super Bowl week, Bucket could be 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: I mean, there's there's a lot of insanity going on. 42 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,760 Speaker 1: I can't promise anything. So I was over the weekend. 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: I was trying to find some things last night after 44 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: all the wedding festivities, you know, I was looking for 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: things to watch, and at first I was looking forward 46 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: to my uh, The Last of Us, which is this 47 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,920 Speaker 1: show that is very popular. It's become one of those 48 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: it shows right now. It's based on a video game 49 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: which I'm a herman out have played to completion years ago, 50 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: um all the way through. But it's based on a 51 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: video game, and it's become a very popular show. But 52 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:51,920 Speaker 1: you know, it's one of those video games that they 53 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: spent I don't even know how much. I think it's 54 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: sold almost a billion dollars worth of of product around 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: around the world. It was an enormously success. You would 56 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: recommend this show like it is like people seem to 57 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 1: look I like it. Look, I'll say this if you 58 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: like The Walking Dead, which is a lot of our people, 59 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: a lot of our audience, which I also liked. I 60 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: fell off. It got a little too violent and nihilistic 61 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: for me. Toward the end the Last you know, the 62 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: toward the ever knows what I'm talking about. The guy 63 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: with the bat Nigan I think is his name the 64 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 1: whole thing. But anyway, if you like The Walking Dead, 65 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: you'll like this show. So I'm watching it. I'm trying 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,520 Speaker 1: to watch The Last of Us. It's fascinating because the 67 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: most recent episode I didn't see. I didn't get through 68 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:33,800 Speaker 1: all of last night's the newest one, but the week before, 69 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 1: the entire episode, the entire episode was devoted to a 70 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 1: gay love story. It was about two guys who are 71 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: surviving the apocalypse together, and you know, Jeff Bezos tweeted 72 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: about it everything else, and people were, Oh, it's very beautiful. 73 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Who wants it? I mean, it's bringing a lot of 74 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: people like her, like, this thing's awesome, right. What I 75 00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: thought was interesting, though, is that the New York Times 76 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: response to this a few days ago was in the 77 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: opinion section, one of their authors the Last of Us 78 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 1: is a very conservative show, to which I'm like, So 79 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: the show that just had a an entire hour and 80 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: by the way, none of the rest of the show 81 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: is like about some romantic love story. It's about fungus 82 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: zombies eating people's faces. I mean, you know, it's it's 83 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 1: pretty silly, pretty silly stuff. The whole show is about 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 1: Nick Offerman, who played famously and incredibly into my mind. 85 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: I think he was amazing as Ron Swanson in this 86 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 1: show Parks and Recreation, which I can also recommend, but 87 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: skip the season two, just skip season one altogether if 88 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: you haven't seen it. Nick Offerman plays this guy. Anyway. 89 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: They say it's very conservative because it's about guns and 90 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: surviving the apocalypse and the pandemic authorities, and it's like, Okay, 91 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 1: they just did a whole episode about, you know, two 92 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: gay guys and love, and we're being told this is 93 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,840 Speaker 1: the most conservative show imaginable. Whatever. Put that aside. You're 94 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,720 Speaker 1: just getting used to, you know, you're getting used to 95 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: all this content having to be woke in some way 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,160 Speaker 1: all the time. And I wouldn't even argue a early 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: that this because it does actually come from the video game. 98 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,039 Speaker 1: I'm not even saying that the gay love stories necessarily woke. 99 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: But you just expect the wokeness to be judged and everything. 100 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: You can't escape it, right, You can't make a show 101 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: without the columnists weighing in and saying, oh, but is 102 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: this woken off or not so woke or whatever. Everything 103 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: is seen through the political lens, and so I was 104 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 1: looking for something else, and sure enough I see an 105 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: advertisement on Hulu Clay for the sixteen nineteen Project show, 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: which is out there now. So I thought this would 107 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 1: be an interesting opportunity for us. First of all, here's 108 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: we have a short clip from the trailer for the 109 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen Project TV show, and here's just a sampling 110 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:43,480 Speaker 1: of it. The truth is, Black Americans have always been 111 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: foundational to the idea of American freedom. Fight it will 112 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:56,120 Speaker 1: always be a fright. You are calling for reparations. What 113 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 1: is the total? That would be thirteen trillion dollars. That's 114 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 1: a big thing. There's a guy calling for reparations there, 115 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, thirteen trillion, thirteen trillion with the t suver. 116 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: This isn't the trailer for the series. It's remarkable when 117 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: you see so I've I've read the sixteen nineteen Project essays. 118 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: I have not seen the series to be fair. But 119 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: you know, Clay, a lot of people have come in 120 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 1: with including from the from the left left, you know, 121 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: what would be considered the left or liberal academics historians 122 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: have said that there's a lot of problems with the 123 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: way the sixteen nineteen Project is presented. I mean the 124 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 1: biggest one that I always think of is the notion 125 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: that the American Revolution was fought as a defensive slavery. 126 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: Historians have just the American root, not the Civil War. 127 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: About the American Revolution against the British was to create 128 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: a quote slaveocracy, which is in the UH the founding 129 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:57,640 Speaker 1: essay of the sixteen nineteen project as a central concept. 130 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 1: And it is just historically it is not true that 131 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: that is actually what was happening. Yeah, that's what frustrates 132 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: me the most about it. And this has gotten its 133 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:13,080 Speaker 1: ten drils into the larger historiography, which I had never 134 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: even heard that word until I was a history major 135 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: in college. And historiography is basically the study of how 136 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: we study history as opposed to just history itself, and 137 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: what stories are told and which stories we choose to 138 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:28,119 Speaker 1: focus on in all of those aspects of history. And 139 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: the Babylon B actually had a great story that said, 140 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: and I'm paraphrasing here, and Babylon B certainly is like 141 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: a conservative version of the Onion our friend Seth Dylan, 142 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: who's a really smart, funny guy, but it essentially said, 143 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: you know, reparations are owed to every person who has 144 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:53,119 Speaker 1: ever lived because everyone's ancestors were slaves at some time. 145 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 1: And this is the essence of why the sixteen nineteen 146 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: project is fundamentally flawed, because it focuses only buck on 147 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: the eighty years that slavery was illegal in the United 148 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 1: States as an independent nation seventeen eighty three to eighteen 149 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: sixty three, as if it is the fundamental guiding tenet 150 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,360 Speaker 1: of America itself. And obviously sixteen nineteen or first the 151 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: first year that enslaved Africans arrived in the United States. 152 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: But it is such a myopic version of United States 153 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:33,559 Speaker 1: history that is trying to destroy the idea of America 154 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 1: as a fundamentally good country. That's the essence of it. 155 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: I mean, when you read through the sixty nineteen project 156 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to do I want to spend the time, 157 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 1: the hours to watch the show to do a critique 158 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 1: of it. That's a you know, reading fine, I'll read 159 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: anything to critique it watching because I also feel like 160 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm supporting you know, I'm another and it's true of 161 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: reading as well. I get it, but you know, I 162 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: just I can't really get my head around I'm gonna 163 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,960 Speaker 1: watch something that I'm just doing it to be able 164 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: to critique it because I know I'm not going to 165 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 1: agree because I've read the essay. It's not like I'm 166 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: taking a shot in the dark year out of you know, 167 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,599 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. I've read the essays um and I 168 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 1: can say this. I mean, one thing that's entirely missing 169 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: from the sixteen nineteen project. And the reason this matters 170 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: so much is that everyone needs to remember. This is 171 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: being used as a as essentially a program of historical 172 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,719 Speaker 1: indoctrination in schools now So children are being taught the 173 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,239 Speaker 1: sixteen nineteen project as history, and there are enormous problems 174 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 1: and shortcomings with it as history, even apart from the 175 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:37,079 Speaker 1: obvious politicization. And you know, you go from slavery horrible, 176 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,599 Speaker 1: really bad, totally true, to all of a sudden it 177 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 1: fast forwards to the BLM movement and you go, wait, well, 178 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: what's the And they're they're creating present no that they 179 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: really know. I mean that it goes through, it goes 180 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: through that the history you know you're talking about and 181 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: what you know. In one essay it'll be describing what's 182 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 1: going on in you know, the seventeen seventies, and then 183 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it's uh, there's photos of people 184 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: doing you know, BLM stuff, and you're just saying, wait, 185 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: wait a second, BLM protests, and so there's it's explicitly political, 186 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: but they leave out things like slavery had existed, as 187 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: we know, for thousands of years all over the world, 188 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: that it was a constant in the human condition. That 189 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: whether it's ancient Rome or or the Jews in Egypt, 190 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: or White Christians being grabbed by Muslim corsayers or the 191 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:26,400 Speaker 1: Barbary pirates, and that occurred all over the coast of 192 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: Europe for hundreds of years too. I mean, find me 193 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: a society historically that had power, and I'll find you 194 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: society essentially that had slaves. That was the truism of 195 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 1: human history. And the first time that there was a 196 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: recognition of this as morally wrong, not a question of 197 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: we don't have the power to do this, or it's 198 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: not on our interests right now, but this is morally wrong. 199 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: And the birthplace of a real abolition movement was within 200 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: the United States. This is entirely left out of the 201 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: context of the sixteen nineteen project. It's fascinating to see 202 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: how the sixteen nineteen projects around from the British are 203 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: kind of the good guys in this because they abolished 204 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: slavery before the United States does. But it's more complicated that. 205 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: First of all, they didn't abolish slavery in their possessions 206 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: in the Caribbean until I think it was the eighteen thirties. 207 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: They also and you know, they talk about the trans 208 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 1: Atlantic slave trade, and this is all supposed to be 209 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: visited upon America, Brazil, South America, Central America, the Caribbean. 210 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 1: There there were slave importation going on to every country 211 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: to our south. That was a reality as well. The 212 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: first slaves were brought here, as we know by port. Well, 213 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: they were taken from Portuguese slave traders in West Africa 214 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: and then given to English English pirates who then sold 215 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: them to colonists here in America. But there are substantial 216 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 1: historical shortcomings the British. Not only did they not abolish 217 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: slavery in their Caribbean colonies, so the eighteen thirties, Clay, 218 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,520 Speaker 1: they were going to support the Confederacy. Yeah, during the 219 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: Civil War, Yeah, which I so. So the British are 220 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: the good guys during the Revolution because they were the 221 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: ones trying to end slavery. But then the British are 222 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: going to fight with the Confederacy. They didn't, but they 223 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 1: were supporting the Confederacy to preserve slavery. So it's just 224 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: there's a total lack of honesty in the project that 225 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: comes across in very important ways. Yeah, and anytime you 226 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: focus exclusively on one part of the story. I mean, 227 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 1: we talked about this recently, but there's very little attention 228 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: paid to, you know, the six hundred thousand white people 229 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: who died in the Civil War, right, almost everyone, at 230 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,800 Speaker 1: least if you had people who were in the United 231 00:12:41,840 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: States in the eighteen sixties ancestors, you would have had 232 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: either Northern or Southern soldiers who died in your past. 233 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: I mean I used as an example. I certainly did, 234 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,160 Speaker 1: because some of my ancestors are from the South, but 235 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: a lot of them are from Kentucky, and Kentucky obviously 236 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: was a border state where some people fought on both sides. 237 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: One of my ancestors died fighting hand to hand combat 238 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: with Nathan Bedford Forrest as a Union Cavalry soldier. Now, 239 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 1: I also had Southern Confederate background, But how do you 240 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: balance out that, Like literally ability, you're going to be assessed, right, 241 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: and the big issue here is none of us did 242 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:25,200 Speaker 1: anything wrong, right like none of us. I mean, this 243 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:28,560 Speaker 1: also is an attast. And yes, holding people you know 244 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: responsible today for what people did who have been long 245 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 1: since dead, I think is obviously immoral. But that's part 246 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: of the whole project here, is to make this the 247 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: problem of everybody living today into demand thirteen trillion dollars 248 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: trillion of reparations. I mean, I could sit here, just 249 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 1: we we could do maybe we should at some point, 250 00:13:43,880 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: just a whole breaking down the areas where there's just 251 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: an intentional editorial decision made to omit things that are 252 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: not And this is being taught to your kids everybody, 253 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: so this matters. They're using this in schools, you know, 254 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,400 Speaker 1: when they say that the Revolution was fought to defend slavery, 255 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:04,720 Speaker 1: which is the explicit explicit contention in the In the 256 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: foundational essay by Nicole Hannah Jones of the sixteen nineteen Project, 257 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: there is no mention of the fact that about ten 258 00:14:11,320 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: percent of those who fought against the British on the 259 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: side of the colonists revolution, we're black, yeah, joining up 260 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: to fight alongside the rest of the colonists. No, no, 261 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: no discussion there is mention of Crispus Attacks, who was 262 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: the first person they say who died in the Revolutionary 263 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: It was actually, I believe that the the Boston massacre. Yeah, 264 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: um so, but there were freedom There were freedmen who 265 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: signed up to fight alongside the Americans, I mean at 266 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: the time the colonists, a substantial number of them in 267 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: the Revolution, which which was something that you would have 268 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: you would think that there would have to be some 269 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,640 Speaker 1: dealing dealing with this. And just also the fundamental premise 270 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: that the constitution of the Founding was a lie when 271 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: it was written, which is something that's repeated frequently in 272 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: the sixteen nineteen Project when Frederick Douglas said, no, it 273 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: was genius, it was brilliance. We just had to fight 274 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: to make it. So, you know, the decision not to 275 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: throw out the Founding as something that was a lie, 276 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: but to understand the Founding is something that was remarkable 277 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: in human history as setting in motion the greatest country 278 00:15:20,560 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 1: that ever lived. So anyway, I just our democracy's ideals 279 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: were false when they were written. That That is the 280 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 1: line from the sixteen nineteen Project, and I just think 281 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: that's troublesome for people to get a very one sided 282 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: view of American history. There are a lot of troubling 283 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: facts in the sixteen nineteen project that people should know. 284 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: There's a lot of history that is good and people 285 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: do need to understand, but there are a lot of 286 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:44,840 Speaker 1: things clay that are taking you know, as you brought 287 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: up brought up civil War. 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But 348 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,680 Speaker 1: this was not one of the things that I expected 349 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,919 Speaker 1: we would have to think of as now being smuggled 350 00:19:05,920 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 1: in from Mexico. Eggs. I don't mean eggs full of cocaine. 351 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: I don't mean eggs like plastic eggs that are stuffed 352 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: with little baggies of heroin. I mean chicken eggs that 353 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:26,919 Speaker 1: you would use for any number of delicious meals. I'm personally, 354 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: I'm a big scrambled eggs guy, Clay, I do make 355 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: amazing scrambled eggs. When you come and stay with carrying 356 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: me sometimes do you eat eggs? You're not an egg guy. 357 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: I'm fine with eggs. Although I was stunned how much 358 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: eggs get consumed in general, Like I'm not antium. In 359 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 1: the New York Time, I mean sorry. In the Wall 360 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:48,280 Speaker 1: Street Journal they had an article about the average American 361 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: eats twenty eight pounds of eggs a year. Eggs are 362 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: a base protein for America, for the American diet, and 363 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: by the way, a very good all that stuff you 364 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 1: heard about. But that's nonsense. Everyone's realized this now. Who 365 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: actually pays attention to nutrition in the studies, Eggs are 366 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: a superfood. They are phenomenal for you overall. Eating eggs 367 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,640 Speaker 1: a great source of protein. A lot of other things 368 00:20:10,640 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: in that are really good for you. Eggs and chicken, 369 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: I think are our foundation in our diets, in the 370 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,160 Speaker 1: Western diet, American diet, that's our foundational protein. And eggs 371 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 1: a cotten really expensive. I had I mentioned this with 372 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,159 Speaker 1: the show because I eat eggs every day, so I'm 373 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 1: one of those. I'm one of those America. I probably eat, 374 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: you know, more than twenty eight pounds of eggs a year. 375 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: But you know the problem Clay I have is I'll 376 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: put like goat cheese and cheddar and throw some bacon 377 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: bits in there. You know, I go full fat kid 378 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:42,439 Speaker 1: with my eggs. I should if I just had the eggs. 379 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: That's super super healthy. But US Customs and Border Protection 380 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: says that eggs seizures because you're not supposed to just 381 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 1: bring up, you know, all that stuff or you bring 382 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: any fruits or vegetables or you know, meter poultry products 383 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 1: with you. They have. Egg seizures have risen ninety one 384 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: percent in El Paso, three hundred and thirty three percent 385 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: in Tucson, three hundred and sixty eight percent in San Diego. 386 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: So this is where I mean there are a lot 387 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:12,080 Speaker 1: of people trying to sneak eggs across the border. I 388 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: mean you have to wonder how long is it before 389 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: people are flying drones with eggs and doing some of 390 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,480 Speaker 1: the cartel things that they do. Maybe a tunnel underground 391 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,960 Speaker 1: under the border with you know, eggs being sent from 392 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 1: one side to the other. And I also, you told 393 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:28,679 Speaker 1: me this. I didn't realize this. You know, in my 394 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:34,160 Speaker 1: neighborhood down here in South Florida, they're actually your neighborhood chickens. Yeah, 395 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 1: there there are chickens just wandering the neighborhood, which I 396 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 1: had not That's not something I when I'm back up 397 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: in New York City, I don't experience that. Well, down 398 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: here you have you have neighbor chicken. More and more 399 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: people want to have chickens so they can have their 400 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: own eggs. So this is wild. The Wall Street Journal 401 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 1: actually had a front page about this about how much 402 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,640 Speaker 1: the price of chickens have gone up, so a ton 403 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: of people are to your point, buying their own to 404 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 1: raise them so they can get eggs. They've actually sold 405 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: out all over the country of chickens, like you can't 406 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: buy them. And this Wall Street Journal article says Tractor 407 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: Supply Co Is the industry's biggest seller of chickens. It's 408 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: more than doubled it's live chicken business since twenty eighteen. 409 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: They expect buck to sell eleven million chicks this year. 410 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: And a lot of people are buying their own little 411 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:33,679 Speaker 1: chickens and then raising them, and they you can't even 412 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 1: get chickens now. They're saying they're out basically out of 413 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: stock because there is such a shortage because people have said, oh, 414 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: eggs are so expensive, now I'm gonna raise chickens and 415 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,359 Speaker 1: get my own natural eggs. You can't even buy them 416 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,640 Speaker 1: now because they're such a shortage because they've gotten so popular. 417 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 1: You know. I have been to a Tractors Supply many 418 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: times because when we would go visit my grandparents in 419 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: the Hudson Valley in New York. There they lived in 420 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: a farm area was there they were bordered farms. I 421 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: mean it was all farms, and then they had this 422 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: plot of land that they built a house on as 423 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: a place to go in the summers. And I just 424 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 1: remember we would go into tractor supply with my mom 425 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: and dad. I was like, we were a kid when 426 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 1: I was a kid, and the little yellow chicks they 427 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: are really cute, so they're they're selling them. They have 428 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 1: like a little bin of these yellow chicks, and you're like, 429 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: I could take one of these home, but my parents would, 430 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: of course, always remind us. They then grow into chickens 431 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:31,240 Speaker 1: that poop and peck and you know, have needs, bigger problems. 432 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 1: You know. It's kind of like when you get your 433 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: kid a little, tiny, adorable fit in your hand bunny 434 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: rabbit for Easter. That little rabbit's gonna live like eight 435 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: to ten years and it's gonna grow into a big 436 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 1: rabbit that's gonna have big rabbit needs. But if you're 437 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:49,359 Speaker 1: doing this for the for the eggs, I can imagine 438 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: that for a lot of people financially, it feels like 439 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: that makes especially because you know, right you have miracle 440 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 1: of life, you have some chickens. Some of the eggs 441 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: can be fertilized. You have more chickens, and then you 442 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: produce all your own eggs and maybe you can sort 443 00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: of sell eggs some of your neighbors until the FBI 444 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: probably comes after you for illicit egg sales. But you 445 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: know this is what happens. Well, you also have to 446 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: be careful because then you have a chicken coop, and 447 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 1: then there are all sorts of animals trying to raid 448 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 1: the chicken coop, so you have to protect the chicken coop. 449 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: It turns into a big investment. The Wall Street Journal 450 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,119 Speaker 1: story says it costs you about six hundred dollars to 451 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: get to the point where you can have chickens raising 452 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: eggs when you factor in the cost of a coop, 453 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 1: when you factor in all the feed that you're going 454 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: to have to not to mention the time, but so 455 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: you're making a six hundred dollars investment. When I was 456 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: a kid, Buck one of the most popular little places 457 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: at opry Land, which was maybe the worst decision made 458 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: in the history of the city of Nashville to allow 459 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: this amusement park, country music themed amusement park to get 460 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 1: shut down and replaced with a mall that nobody cares about. 461 00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: But they had a chicken area where you could go 462 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: watch all the baby chicks being born, and you know, 463 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,280 Speaker 1: they had it was they had like a farm land 464 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,199 Speaker 1: area or whatever. And I just remember how intoxicating and 465 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 1: hypnotizing in many ways it was as a little kid 466 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 1: to get to sit there and watch all of the 467 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: chickens being born coming out of the eggs. So I 468 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: imagine there are a lot of parents out there that 469 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: have done this chicken coop thing not only for the 470 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:19,240 Speaker 1: purposes of, hey, we can have fresh organic eggs that 471 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: we're creating on our own, but also to show the 472 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 1: kids how much fun it can be to create kind 473 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: of this little chicken coop. It's just some breaking news. 474 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: By the way, on the Chinese balloon, Chinese spy balloon, 475 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: it evidently had explosives. This is a heck of a transition. 476 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,600 Speaker 1: It evidently had explosives into it inside of it that 477 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 1: would allow it to self destruct. Now here's what I 478 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: will ask as we get ready to go to break Buck. 479 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 1: In my mind, I'm wondering whether they're gonna later say 480 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,479 Speaker 1: that this was not only too self destruct, but whether 481 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: this could be a test to deliver explosives to the 482 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 1: United States and therefore it is a lot more dangerous. 483 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: I think we have to close out the show in 484 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 1: a few minutes. Here Clay with an analysis of now 485 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 1: exploding exploding spy balloon that Biden let roll across the 486 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: country for a few days. 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That's t the number 508 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:37,120 Speaker 1: two t dot org. You don't know what you don't know, right, 509 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: but you should. On the Sunday Hang with Clay and 510 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,440 Speaker 1: Buck podcast, Close it up shop here on Clay and Buck. 511 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: And it turns out the balloon had some explosives on it. 512 00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: This is a new thing to add into the mix here. 513 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: So all Friday we were talking to you about this 514 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: Chinese spy balloon and it was trying to accomplish and Clay, 515 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: now you just gave us this breaking news. Now we 516 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 1: have a story out that it was meant to be 517 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:14,239 Speaker 1: able to self detonate. Where who is reporting this at 518 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 1: this stage, by the way, because that seems like a 519 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: big deal. It's being reported by I saw it on 520 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: Disclose and also saying that it was said by National 521 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:31,240 Speaker 1: Security Advisory. Obviously they are in the process of grabbing this, 522 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 1: trying to reclaim I guess, salvage whatever word you want 523 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: to use, after they have shot it down. But the 524 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: Chinese spy balloon carried explosives to self detonate. Reading this 525 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: story right now, Daily Mail also has it up in 526 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: the meantime, and this is according to the Daily Mail. 527 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: Air Force General Glenn van Hirk, commander of New US 528 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:03,680 Speaker 1: Northern Command, revealed than a Monday call with reporters the balloon, 529 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: in addition to potentially carrying explosives, was two hundred feet tall, 530 00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: way thousands of pounds, and its payload was the size 531 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,680 Speaker 1: of a jetliner. And you can hear in the background 532 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: there I'm reading this in real time. And this came 533 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: following a briefing by John Kirby, who tried to defend 534 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: why they took so long to shut down this, uh, 535 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: this craft, this balloon, spy balloon. So I mean, buck 536 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 1: what I wonder as Okay, now, there were explosives on 537 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: board this spy balloon. According to that report, they say 538 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 1: that it was to self destruct. Wouldn't if this balloon 539 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: were carrying explosives? Wouldn't in theory, they have been able 540 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: to detonate this balloon in some way to potentially cause 541 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: issues in the United States. And other words, we first 542 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,280 Speaker 1: heard it's an unmanned it's a weather balloon. Oh it's 543 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: no big deal. Oh let's just let it go across 544 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: the whole country and let it go out to sea. 545 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: And you go back and listen to us discuss this 546 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: on Friday, I said, the argument that they were afraid 547 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: of hitting something on the ground after it was shot 548 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: never really made any sense, because there are massive portions 549 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,520 Speaker 1: of the United States that this balloon traversed where there 550 00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been hardly anybody within vicinity. They could have 551 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: easily picked out a place and shot this thing down 552 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: in Montana. They could have shot it down, certainly over 553 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 1: Alaska when there's no one around. And I think they 554 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 1: were legitimately concerned about the explosives that were on board 555 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: and what shooting those down might trigger, and that's why 556 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: they waited until it was out over the Atlantic Ocean. 557 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: But this also goes to what an outrage this is. Yes, 558 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean, just just imagine for a second that they 559 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: would have shot that thing down right away. I mean look, 560 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 1: it's China's. They also probably wouldn't ever reported on it 561 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: in the state news and all that. But I'm just 562 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: saying that there'd be no Oh what about what about 563 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 1: the diplomatic ramifications? What if? What if the Chinese get 564 00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: really upset? No one would care. They would just do 565 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: that because this is the kind of thing that countries 566 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 1: don't do to other countries and not expect there to 567 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,040 Speaker 1: be immediate action and perhaps even some degree of reprisals, 568 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, the diplomatic stuff. That's what you do after 569 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: you shoot it down, you know, right, you can write 570 00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 1: down the strong awarded letter. You just do it after 571 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 1: the balloon has been obliterated. And anybody would have done 572 00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: the same thing here who certainly has the capability to 573 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: do it? So the whole thing, and you have to 574 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 1: one or two to China. You know, they claim they 575 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: lost control of it, because otherwise it seems like they 576 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: just let it go and see what happens. And again 577 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: this phrases to to your point, a lot of issues 578 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: because now this has gone from oh it's an unmanned drone, 579 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 1: We're just using it to try to glean information. This 580 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 1: is no big deal. Oh why are all you people 581 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: making it such a big deal that a Chinese spycraft, 582 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: Now it's a Chinese spycraft loaded with explosives that the 583 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 1: Biden administration allowed to traverse the entirety of the United States, 584 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: beginning in Alaska and ending in South Carolina for a week. 585 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 1: They were never this is significant, going to tell us 586 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: about it until people in Montana were like, Hey, what's 587 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:42,240 Speaker 1: going on here with this huge balloon, And they probably 588 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 1: weren't going to cancel Anthony B. Lincoln's trip to China. 589 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 1: I just think they're more and more detailed out about this, 590 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: and we said it didn't add up on Friday, And 591 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: I just want all of you to think about what 592 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: we just allowed to happen. We allowed our chief foreign 593 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: adversary in the world to pilot a spycraft vehicle across 594 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: the entirety of the United States and it was loaded 595 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: with explosives, and we did nothing until it reached to 596 00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:18,720 Speaker 1: the Atlantic Ocean when we shot it down. That I mean, 597 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: this is a big deal. I mean, Buck, you hit 598 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: the historical analogy of when Japan allowed a basically a 599 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: parachute bomb to arrive in the United States and killed people. 600 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: Imagine if what the fallout is if this Chinese spycraft 601 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:44,640 Speaker 1: balloon loaded with explosives ends up killing somehow American citizens 602 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 1: inside of our own country. That is Chinese sponsored terror, 603 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: that is brought directly to bear by their country. And 604 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: right now the only consequences are buck We're going to 605 00:33:56,000 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 1: send them a strongly worded letter and shoot down their craft, 606 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: their balloon, their spycraft in the Atlantic Ocean. I'm sorry. 607 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 1: Like this to me deserves far more substantial response than 608 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: just not sending Anthony blink In the Secretary of State 609 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,719 Speaker 1: to China and just kind of wagging our finger schoolmarm 610 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: style and writing a mean letter. I mean, this is 611 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 1: this is completely unacceptable. I think that anybody who's looking 612 00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: at the not just the Biden administration, just anyone who 613 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 1: understands who Joe Biden is and his capabilities were lack thereof, 614 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: would be very quick to tell somebody in a moment 615 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: of honesty that the guy is not It's not just 616 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: that he is not up for this now, he has 617 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,279 Speaker 1: never been up for this. Yeah. And you know, for Democrats, 618 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: I understand, it's really about the apparatus. It's really not 619 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,359 Speaker 1: about the individual who is the president and so at 620 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 1: some level maybe people can take some comfort in that 621 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,640 Speaker 1: on certain issues, like there's a limited out of damage 622 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: I think Joe Biden alone can do to the economy 623 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: just because one he's not that enthusiastic or energetic about anything, 624 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: and two he doesn't know the system well enough to 625 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: really mobilize the system all that well. But the system 626 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: itself one can do a lot of damage. And two 627 00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: is very inept at responding to moments of crises. It 628 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: is not nimble and it's not fast. That is actually 629 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 1: one of the earliest in the earliest debates about our 630 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: system of government. We needed to have an executive. We 631 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: need to have a commander in chief who could respond 632 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 1: to crisis adequately and quickly in the event of foreign 633 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 1: invasion or major national security risk. I mean, who wants 634 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: to wake up Joe Biden his pajamas to be like, 635 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 1: mister President, we got a big problem here and think 636 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: that he's going to be able to handle that adequately well, 637 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: And this tight end tubuck with the worst place for 638 00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: Joe Biden is not only an emergency, it's an emergency 639 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: without a president. And to my knowledge, we have never 640 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 1: had this situation happened before. You're in mind's initial inclination 641 00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:06,280 Speaker 1: was shoot this thing down. The fact that the Biden 642 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:09,680 Speaker 1: administration waited for it to traverse the entire country and 643 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: now on Monday afternoon is coming out and saying, oh, 644 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,919 Speaker 1: by the way, it was also this spycraft loaded down 645 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: with explosives, which they say was to allow it to 646 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:22,719 Speaker 1: self destruct. Really well, if you can load it down 647 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: with explosives which allow it to self destruct, couldn't you 648 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: also choose where it self destructs. That seems like a bomb. 649 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: It's really weird for a weather balloon too, to have 650 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: bombs on it.