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Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind production of My

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Speaker 1: Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind

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Speaker 1: listener mail. My name is Robert Lamb and I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: McCormick in. It's Monday, the day of the week that

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Speaker 1: we read back some of the messages that you have

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Speaker 1: sent in recently. So Rob, if you don't mind today,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to get us started with a message that

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Speaker 1: came in from Chris in response to our episodes on

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Speaker 1: natural flames and fire coming out of the earth. All right,

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Speaker 1: all right, Chris says, Hi, Robert and Joe, I loved

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Speaker 1: your episodes about eternal flames and thought you might want

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Speaker 1: to see some images of Mount Chimera. And then Chris

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Speaker 1: includes a description referring to one of the images they

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Speaker 1: sent along, and also, yeah, Artash meaning the rock that

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Speaker 1: lights up and Olympus, the modern town and the ruins

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Speaker 1: of the Greco Roman city. Oh this is cool because

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Speaker 1: this is a place that you actually brought up in

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Speaker 1: that pair of episodes, Rob, I think you and Artas

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Speaker 1: specifically is the one where it has the fire coming

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Speaker 1: out of the rocks on the real side. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: But Chris goes on both the modern and ancient cities

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Speaker 1: sit on the banks of the Achai River in antiquity,

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Speaker 1: known as Harpasso's Right, where it empties into the Mediterranean

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Speaker 1: on a beautiful pebble beach surrounded by high cliffs. There

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Speaker 1: are a number of rustic pinsions or pincion as I

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Speaker 1: think this just means like little houses or huts, where

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Speaker 1: most tourists stay between the modern town and the ancient sites.

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Speaker 1: There are ruins all along the river, including a Roman

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Speaker 1: bath and numerous tombs, all covered in vines and moss

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Speaker 1: and surrounded by bright red poppies. The grounds are not

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Speaker 1: able to scramble all over the ancient structures. For better

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Speaker 1: or worse. The whole place looks very Indiana Jones. Apparently

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Speaker 1: the area was a pirate sanctuary for thousands of years,

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Speaker 1: and you can feel why if you kayak around the

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Speaker 1: cove among the sea turtles and ruins of the Genoese

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Speaker 1: fortresses on the surrounding cliffs. You can hike directly dan

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Speaker 1: our Touch from the beach, or you can take a

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Speaker 1: tourist bus to the base of Mount Chimiro, which is

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Speaker 1: what we did the hike from the base takes about

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Speaker 1: thirty minutes. The trail has steps, but I can only

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Speaker 1: describe them as cyclopean, and most people tried to walk

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Speaker 1: around them. The path is littered with carved marble chunks

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Speaker 1: of ancient monuments or temples. When you finally get to

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Speaker 1: the top, it's a little bit of a letdown. At

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Speaker 1: least during the day. Jean Artash is sort of a

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Speaker 1: the place takes on an eerie quality that you can

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Speaker 1: imagine might inspire stories about monsters. We saw no lions

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Speaker 1: or snakes, by the way. Oh this is referring I

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Speaker 1: think Rob to uh you talking about those ancient writings

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Speaker 1: about the different animals of the Camira monster being around

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Speaker 1: picking up there are many domestic goats on the surrounding hillsides.

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Speaker 1: The sound of their bleeding, the call of the goat herds,

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Speaker 1: and the clanking of the bells around their necks instantly

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Speaker 1: evoked the past. It's an amazing trip that I almost

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Speaker 1: don't want to recommend so as not to spoil it.

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Speaker 1: I only found out about it because my wife and

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Speaker 1: I were teaching in Istanbul at the time and looking

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Speaker 1: for something to do on our fall break. The host

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Speaker 1: of our pincheon was very friendly and spent most nights

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Speaker 1: chatting with guests of all ages from all over the world,

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Speaker 1: drinking beer or tea around a fire pit in the

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Speaker 1: front courtyard. Idyllic barely describes the experience. Thanks for letting

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Speaker 1: me share. Hope you enjoy the photos. I'm the guy

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Speaker 1: standing in the river, and then Chris attaches many photos,

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Speaker 1: some of which are extremely beautiful. One indeed does have

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Speaker 1: one standing in a river. H Well, awesome. It's great

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Speaker 1: to hear some firsthand experience from from this fascinating location.

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Speaker 1: All right, here's another one when comes to us from

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Speaker 1: Stephen in response to our star Gazer in the well episode,

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Speaker 1: Dear Joe and Rob, I really enjoyed your recent podcast

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Speaker 1: on stargazing in the daytime through wells. I thought i'd

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Speaker 1: fide modern day astronomers use wells of a sort to

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Speaker 1: observe the night sky. The super Kamio Kandi is a

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Speaker 1: straight to the air. Instead, the mind acts as a

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Speaker 1: shield against cosmic radiation, allowing only neutrinos to pass through

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Speaker 1: super ai S detectors. Of course, most of the newtrinos

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Speaker 1: was thinking of the South Pole Neutrino Observatory, the Ice

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Speaker 1: Cube Observatory, which is like a subterranean facility UH in Antarctica,

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Speaker 1: but this one in a mine in Japan also sounds fascinating.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, really good on that connection. I did not

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Speaker 1: like top ten Amazing telescopes or something like ten years

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Speaker 1: of of yeah, just pure science fiction. It's any of

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Speaker 1: golden looking lights in it. Quite fascinating. Yeah. The detector

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Speaker 1: Space Odyssey. Dave awakens in it and he speaks to

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Speaker 1: so you know, it's, like Steven said, not a direct

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Speaker 1: some things line up, so it's worth noting. So thanks

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Speaker 1: for writing in about that. All right. This next message

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Speaker 1: comes to us from Lauren. It is about our series

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Speaker 1: of episodes on document duplication and fact Simile. Lauren says, Hello,

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Speaker 1: Robin Joe. I was just listening to your second episode

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Speaker 1: feels like it should be obsolete in our modern age,

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Speaker 1: carbon copy paper is not quite a curiosity of the past.

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Speaker 1: It is still frequently used, especially in restaurants settings. As

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Speaker 1: talking about. I have worked in restaurants myself. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: But Lauren also says occasionally in the form of receipts,

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Speaker 1: but predominantly so that both the kitchen staff and the

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Speaker 1: pad and the carbon paper on it. One one copy

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Speaker 1: I also have experience with carbon paper for receipts because

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Speaker 1: when we don't know if it was in power outages

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Speaker 1: that the shotgun sound of this. The spike receipts and

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Speaker 1: doesn't stop there, Lauren says, on a final note, though

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Speaker 1: and thank you for the always stimulating podcasts. Lauren, very nice. Well,

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Speaker 1: of William just shared a post that said toad dug

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Speaker 1: Super Mario Brothers Too. It's apparently the Toad dugout vegetables

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