WEBVTT - One on One: Dave Gruber Allen 0:00:00.760 --> 0:00:17.680 I am all in, Kiss you, I am all in 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:21.880 with Scott Patterson and I heart Radio podcast. Hey, everybody's 0:00:21.880 --> 0:00:24.480 Scott Patterson here, I am all in podcast. We're going 0:00:24.560 --> 0:00:30.479 to be talking with Dave Gruber Allen, who was in 0:00:31.240 --> 0:00:36.360 season two episode seventeen, Dead Uncles and Vegetables. Um. He 0:00:36.520 --> 0:00:39.720 has a very broad background in the entertainment field with 0:00:39.760 --> 0:00:41.959 a comedy troupe and starting in New York, came out 0:00:41.960 --> 0:00:44.599 to l a. Then he started getting cast because he's 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:49.160 a very unique personality and a very unique, very soothing voice. Uh. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:53.960 And he plays the eternal hippie uh whenever he's cast. Um. 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.320 And he can't wait to talk to him. So let's 0:00:57.320 --> 0:00:59.840 bring him in, Danielle, can you bring him in? God? 0:01:00.000 --> 0:01:03.080 It bringing him in? Hey, Scott, how's it going, man? 0:01:03.320 --> 0:01:06.959 It's going great. Dave? How are you, buddy? I'm so 0:01:07.040 --> 0:01:10.280 happy to see you and so happy to accept your 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.960 invitation to be on. Thank you so much. I'm really grateful, 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.360 Like kid, do not you know? This is this is 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:19.360 what makes doing this so much fun is to have 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:23.759 you know, people like you on that are unsung, who 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.920 come on to to an episode that you get two 0:01:27.000 --> 0:01:30.000 or three scenes, you steal the whole episode, and you 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:35.040 wonder why you didn't get more episodes, especially that you 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.959 can do arts and crafts at that level. You know, Scott, 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:41.160 I know that you're an artist. Yeah, you're a lot 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.480 of art and you collected and amazing. But I was 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.520 wondering how much of at his crafts, So I thought, 0:01:46.600 --> 0:01:50.520 let me do something here, and uh so you know what, 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.440 I was actually trying to accommodate you and your team. 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.880 They're right team. I am all in um because if 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.280 there's a huge delay in my talking and it's aggrave eating, 0:02:00.440 --> 0:02:03.160 I'm happy to just put this guy up here and 0:02:03.200 --> 0:02:06.720 go like, that's my guy, that's my avatar. No that 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:11.440 that like maybe briefly, but that's gonna be uh you know, 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:13.480 that's kind of cool. That's kind of funky and cool. 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:17.720 I kind of like that. Let's do it a little bit. Yeah, Okay, 0:02:19.240 --> 0:02:21.160 thanks for having me here though, I appreciate it. So 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.440 it's a pleasure having your man um. So listen, I'm 0:02:25.440 --> 0:02:29.080 gonna I'm gonna let the audience know a little bit 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:32.840 about your background. Uh. David Allen appears his second Troubert 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.320 Or a Minister and Minister for a total of four episodes. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:39.079 You were only in four episodes. You should have been 0:02:39.080 --> 0:02:43.040 in forty. You should have been Why were you? I 0:02:43.120 --> 0:02:47.680 just man, I'm gonna, I'm gonna. I want some bucks anyway. 0:02:47.720 --> 0:02:51.359 Although he only appears in four episodes, the Second Troubador stars, 0:02:51.360 --> 0:02:55.040 Hall is a very recognizable character, perhaps because of his 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:57.799 charm and humor edition. Most of the appearances occurrent monumental 0:02:57.840 --> 0:03:01.040 moments near the end of season and c below. Okay, 0:03:01.040 --> 0:03:06.919 here we go. Listen, you are charm at both well. 0:03:07.000 --> 0:03:08.639 I don't think you're gonna have one without the other, 0:03:08.760 --> 0:03:11.320 can you? Well? Maybe not. I mean, is the soul 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:15.960 of humor? Charmer is themost charm humor. I don't know. Listen, 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:19.760 you appeared. You're best known for TV series The Higgins Boys, 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:25.320 and you were also a counselor. You left out, you 0:03:25.440 --> 0:03:28.360 left out the important boards. Scott Brewer. That's that's me. 0:03:28.800 --> 0:03:33.480 That's David Gruber, and now you're you're David Gruber. Allan's 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:39.040 my apologies. I'm seeing with David Gruber alien here, but 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.640 it's just my eyesight. That's all Higgins Boys, and Gruber 0:03:42.720 --> 0:03:47.480 was playing guidance counselor Jeff Rosso got it on the 0:03:47.600 --> 0:03:51.600 Jutt Apptow produce comedy drama Freaks and Geeks. You also 0:03:51.680 --> 0:03:57.640 played Mr Quest on ned Ned's Declassified School Survival Guide 0:03:57.840 --> 0:04:00.960 and the town Trooper on Gilmore Girls. I have to 0:04:00.960 --> 0:04:03.000 share this with you two, Scott, that you mentioned that 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.760 Judd Apatow produced Uh, Freaks and Geeks. Don't forget that 0:04:06.840 --> 0:04:10.680 Paul fig created Freaksing Geeks. It's really important because Paul 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:14.320 it's basically Paul's life. And then Judd said, I think 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.560 this is a great show. So it was. It was 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:19.599 a tag team effort on Paul and Judd's behalf, you know, 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:22.159 to go, let's get this show out there. And that's 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.560 that was probably my biggest best thing. So I was 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.160 on more than four of those. Scott, you are you were? 0:04:27.200 --> 0:04:34.839 You were? You were serious? Regular? Right? Yeah? Regular enough? Yea, 0:04:36.600 --> 0:04:38.680 all right, let's get let's get into the Gilmore thing 0:04:38.720 --> 0:04:41.960 first and start from the beginning. And we know from 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:46.120 the iconic of Freaks and Geeks, Neddie Classified much more. 0:04:46.440 --> 0:04:48.919 How did you but how did you get started in acting? 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:51.919 And did you always want to be an actor? You 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:55.200 know what? It's on my tax forms, So just note this. 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.320 I know that you are an actor and you study acting. 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:01.760 So I'm a performer and it's really weird. I actually 0:05:01.760 --> 0:05:04.400 put it on my taxes, Scot, I put performers slash 0:05:04.480 --> 0:05:08.240 writer because I don't consider myself a very good actor. 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:10.919 I'm kind of a actor, if you will, So I 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:14.279 actually I performed. That's what I do, and many of 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:16.960 my characters if you know me personally, and now we do. 0:05:17.440 --> 0:05:21.720 Great to meet you. Um Mr Rosso, Mr Quest the 0:05:22.240 --> 0:05:24.760 second try, but are on Gilmo Girls. It's kind of 0:05:24.800 --> 0:05:27.920 just me saying lines that other people wrote. So if 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:30.440 that's acting, sure I'll take it. But I'm kind of 0:05:30.480 --> 0:05:33.720 more of a performer. So um, well I got and 0:05:33.800 --> 0:05:35.800 I got my start in high school. Just you know, 0:05:36.080 --> 0:05:39.400 in high school. Could you remember what production? In high school? 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.560 It was a it was called like Fall Follies, and 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:46.160 we did a fire signed theater, ask your grandparents, Ask 0:05:46.240 --> 0:05:49.800 your great grandparents, comedy skit. It was a radio skit, 0:05:49.880 --> 0:05:52.800 so I heard radio from way back and it was 0:05:52.839 --> 0:05:54.960 a comedy group that had a funny skit called Mark Time. 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.560 And it was like Fall Follies where people did skits 0:05:57.600 --> 0:05:59.920 and songs and so forth. So my friend Paul Felster 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.600 and I took just every word from a fire signed 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:08.200 theater recorded comedy skit. This is ancient history, right, and 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.160 that's where you got that going? So and by the way, 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:13.880 can I mention one thing? May I please mention this? 0:06:14.160 --> 0:06:17.760 I can clear up another podcast? By the way, I 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:19.800 am all in for I am all in, Okay. I 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:21.800 don't care about any of the other boy I don't 0:06:21.920 --> 0:06:25.080 who cares about him? However, on another podcast, one of 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:30.880 the Saturday Live cast members Chris Red super funny guy. Right, great, 0:06:30.920 --> 0:06:33.719 he's a rapper, he's a singer, he's a really funny guy. 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.320 He said that only two people we're funny that came 0:06:37.320 --> 0:06:40.920 out of Naperville, Illinois, and one was Bob oden Kirk. Right, 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:43.479 we love we love Bob, and I love Chris Red. 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.760 But he said there was only two him and Bob Odenkirk. 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.000 So I'll let your fans, who I trust with humor 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:52.680 and charm. I trust that your fans are are humorous 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:56.120 and charming, to say maybe let's like grouper in that group. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.360 It's a pretty small group. Two people. Come on, I 0:06:58.360 --> 0:07:00.880 think I think you should you know, we don't even 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.080 need to consult with the audience. Let's put you in 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:07.040 the group. There's three people now from Napierville, thank you, 0:07:07.120 --> 0:07:10.640 that are funny, good, and there may be more. Scott. 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.880 I don't mean to discount anybody else who came out 0:07:12.880 --> 0:07:15.680 of there that was hilarious. So I just wanted to 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.280 make sure that Chris Rednew I think I'm too old 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:20.000 for him. I think that's why he didn't know me. 0:07:20.080 --> 0:07:22.760 So what are you gonna do? What? You know what? 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.800 You can't do anything? You know? You have? There you go, there, 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:32.760 you go, there's a there's the crafty Dave. So listen, 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:37.400 you worked with so many great actors and when they 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:39.560 were just young uns on Freaks and Geeks, could you 0:07:40.440 --> 0:07:42.680 tell at the time that they would go on to 0:07:42.760 --> 0:07:46.080 do great things? Well, you know what too, And I'm 0:07:46.080 --> 0:07:48.800 gonna do what I call a sidebar. You know everything 0:07:48.800 --> 0:07:51.400 I do as all the legal leads. So I'll tell 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:56.600 you about sure that whole cast, right of Seth and uh, 0:07:56.760 --> 0:07:59.160 Linda Cardlini and all those folks, you kind of sense 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.720 that they were really something. Alison Jones really and Paul 0:08:02.760 --> 0:08:06.040 Feig and Judd. They chose some really great young people 0:08:06.280 --> 0:08:08.520 to be those students on Freaksy Geeks, right, And so 0:08:08.560 --> 0:08:10.000 you knew they were going to go somewhere. There was 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.520 no doubt about it. But also I was early on 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:16.320 and other people relevant to your show, my friend because 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.400 Lauren Graham I knew just kind of from l A 0:08:19.560 --> 0:08:21.920 and around. We were in a movie that nobody saw 0:08:22.000 --> 0:08:24.440 called dil Scallion together. That was the first time I 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:27.640 spent any time with her. Right. Also, Melissa McCarthy, right, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.080 the first time I met her was on your show, right, 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:33.320 just briefly. I think we're in maybe a a town 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.360 hall scene or something like that, or you know, in passing. 0:08:36.559 --> 0:08:38.480 But then I got to work with her twice on 0:08:38.559 --> 0:08:43.080 Mike and Molly right and in Ghostbusters, where I was 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.960 so freaky made up that she did not recognize me 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:51.360 as close as you know, as close as this No Joe. 0:08:51.400 --> 0:08:54.040 I was sitting in the makeup chair and they go, oh, hey, Melissa, 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.920 this is a grouper and maybe she didn't know Grouper 0:08:56.920 --> 0:08:59.439 either or that name, and oh, hi, next to meet you. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.160 It's like, oh my god, because the makeup that I 0:09:02.200 --> 0:09:06.200 have in Ghostbusters, right with Melissa McCarthy that Ghostbusters, the 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:10.040 good Ghostbusters, um was so freaky and she did not 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:14.840 recognize me from this close, So you know, and Grantly Phillips. 0:09:14.840 --> 0:09:17.600 We worked at Largo. So that's how I got this gig. 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.840 I think on Gilmore Girls, I'd like, I'd like for 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.080 you or someone to clear up an issue, but we 0:09:22.080 --> 0:09:24.480 could do that later. I would love to just follow 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:27.280 your lead. But don't let me forget to say. How 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:30.080 did I get that gig? I think it was Grantly Phillips. 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:32.000 We'll talk. Oh no, no, we can do. Let's go, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.920 let's chop it up right now. Let's go to it 0:09:35.000 --> 0:09:37.480 right now on another podcast. Again, I only listen to 0:09:37.480 --> 0:09:39.520 I have all in, so I don't know what goes 0:09:39.559 --> 0:09:43.120 on in any of these other shows. Your time wisely, 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:45.080 you've got to use your time, you know what. That's 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.480 only so many hours in a day and so much 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.080 uh so much bandwidth on my iPad from nineteen fifty. 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.520 So that's why I you know. But here's what happened. 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:59.280 Grantly Phillips, the best trooper or ever he he and 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:02.240 I worked together Largo. Thank you Flannagan for that opportunity 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:09.360 to work. Largo is a club on Fairfax Avenue. In fact, 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:13.160 in correct, you only because the original Largo was four 0:10:13.200 --> 0:10:15.880 three B two North Fairfax, So you're totally correct new 0:10:16.240 --> 0:10:18.959 is on La Sianga Largo dash l a dot com 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:23.280 thinking to find out what they're new. Okay, oh yeah, 0:10:23.360 --> 0:10:25.520 it's been a little while. But that's where I met 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:29.640 Grantly Phillips, the super hilarious, the super charming and humor 0:10:29.640 --> 0:10:32.280 as he was both charming and humor capital C capital 0:10:32.600 --> 0:10:35.640 age and so we knew each other from there. We 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:39.920 were in shows together. I opened for him. Uh. The 0:10:39.960 --> 0:10:43.679 first time we did Naked Trucker Live at Largo was 0:10:43.720 --> 0:10:46.880 in front of Grant and that was Flannagan saying, only Grantly, 0:10:47.160 --> 0:10:50.040 with his sense of humor, will appreciate the Naked Trucker 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:54.200 show as an opening act for his show. Grantly Phillips right. 0:10:54.280 --> 0:10:56.240 And we also opened to the Palace in other led 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:59.880 places no longer there for Grantly Buffalo. So I think 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.120 I owe it to Granently Phillips. He said that they 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:05.720 wanted maybe and again someone could correct me the either 0:11:05.760 --> 0:11:09.200 one of like Robin Hitchcock or Richard Thompson to be 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:13.600 the second triper, like an actual musician, like an actual performer, 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:16.440 like an actual person, right to do it. And I 0:11:16.480 --> 0:11:19.160 think that didn't happen. So it might have been Grantly 0:11:20.040 --> 0:11:22.560 uh saying why don't you get grewber. I think that 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:27.320 was it, now, did did you? I mean I assumed 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:31.960 you had some kind of a a presence in the 0:11:32.000 --> 0:11:37.120 Hollywood firmament. Uh, you had a reputation. People knew your work, 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:41.000 people knew who you were, so it wasn't there yea. Indeed, Scott, 0:11:41.080 --> 0:11:43.720 we were super lucky the Higgins Place Grouper was in 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:45.640 New York. But then when we all moved out to 0:11:45.800 --> 0:11:47.760 l A, we were getting in parts like I got 0:11:47.800 --> 0:11:51.400 the part of hippie lawyer on a Drew Carey show stuff. 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.280 So then we still kept performing though Scott Live. We 0:11:54.360 --> 0:11:57.920 played every single place in l A. Dave Higgins, Steve 0:11:58.000 --> 0:12:00.840 Higgins and I played every single place at accept, the 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:05.080 Comedy Store, and the Improv. So but every single other 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.720 place you could play we played. So why not there? 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.120 Why not at the improv in the comedy They didn't 0:12:11.160 --> 0:12:14.880 want us? Uh at the comedy store and the improv 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:17.439 oddly enough, because we did some improv comedy as well, 0:12:17.720 --> 0:12:21.040 they were like, nah, will pass really really? Oh yeah, 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.199 but we were three people. I think they didn't want 0:12:23.200 --> 0:12:25.280 to give out three drink tickets, is what I think. 0:12:25.720 --> 0:12:27.640 You know what I mean? So you were right to 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.319 all the friends that would show up and so so 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:35.360 so you had the benefit of being very memorable with 0:12:35.400 --> 0:12:39.360 your voice and your look and your humor. And casting 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.880 directors or friends of casting directors. You came and see 0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:44.439 these shows that you know, this guy is exter exterly 0:12:44.520 --> 0:12:48.520 hysterically funny. You can't forget him. Why don't you go 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.600 see him? Maybe cast him in that film or maybe 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:53.040 is that how it happened for you? Just like a 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:56.160 little bit of that. Yeah. In fact, um, let me 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.360 just tell you to take yourn. You mentioned the voice, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:00.640 so I can share this with you. Uh. And and 0:13:01.240 --> 0:13:03.880 one one set up story. One kind of really funny story. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.040 It was just weird and it happened and someone might 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:08.880 have seen the second thing we did. Um King of 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:12.720 the Hill had a character called Appleseed, right, and they said, 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:14.840 get Gruber, he can do this character. It's kind of 0:13:14.840 --> 0:13:18.160 a hippie crunching organic guy, right, And sure enough I 0:13:18.200 --> 0:13:21.200 showed up in four of those two Scott four count them. 0:13:21.960 --> 0:13:24.480 I guess that's my number. Any show Scott, They're like, 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:28.760 don't give Grumber five five. He's gonna you know why, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.160 because he's it's it's too much you're gonna take over 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:33.720 the show. That's the problem. Maybe that's it. That's it, 0:13:33.960 --> 0:13:36.600 because I'm telling you you stole this episode for me. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:41.560 I was just I was floored. I was absolutely floored 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:43.800 with the with the hippie stuff. And I say, nobody 0:13:43.880 --> 0:13:46.520 doesn't like that. I mean that is that's like the 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:49.840 genuine article. So were you so listen? I mean you 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:52.959 must have been and still are. I mean you were 0:13:53.000 --> 0:13:57.680 in You're not old enough to be an original hippie? Right, No, 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.360 in fact, I'm two months older than you. I was 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:03.720 doing some reading up on Scott Patterson, right, my new 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:07.000 favorite podcast host. No, I was, I'm two months older 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.600 than you. So okay, So you know what, In fact, 0:14:09.960 --> 0:14:12.040 Scott I worked at. Did you ever go to Glendale 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:20.720 when you're in l A? Visit Glendale? Um? Ish, that's 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:23.640 a good way to visit Glendale. I actually been there. 0:14:24.240 --> 0:14:26.480 My wife's brother used to live there, so we would 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:30.000 go there. Yeah, I Glendale. Yeah. Well, you know what, 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:33.200 one of my first jobs. Our original comedy group name 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:34.920 is don't quit your day job, so none of us 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:37.000 did when we first moved to l A from Iowa, 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:39.840 and so one of my first day jobs was education. 0:14:39.960 --> 0:14:43.680 Aid in a middle school in Glendale, right, Wilson Junior 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:48.440 High at the time, And and that we just started 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:51.840 doing all the comedy we could from there, right, And 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.440 so yeah, I forget what I was gonna tell you, 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:57.440 but it was super important. Okay, let's let's get in 0:14:57.440 --> 0:15:02.880 with the Gilmore stuff. The first season one, episode one, God, 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:07.120 really do what do I remember you in season? In 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.000 season one? Anyway? The second Town Trooper? How did you 0:15:10.000 --> 0:15:12.360 get the role? Well? Yeah, how did you get the role? 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:15.240 You think you think you think it was But you 0:15:15.280 --> 0:15:17.440 had to come in an audition, right are you? Were 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.840 you just offered the part? I think I might have 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.160 been off of the part or auditioned like don't mess 0:15:22.200 --> 0:15:23.880 it up, one of those kind of things, just so 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:26.240 you know. Scott, for example, I did audition for the 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.120 part of Mr Rosso and Freaks and Geeks, but I 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.520 had to go in. It was written for me, basically 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:33.480 like we need a hippie counselor for the high school. 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:36.360 And so I believe Second Trooper or I had the 0:15:36.400 --> 0:15:39.840 great recommendation. I'm sure it had to be grantly looking 0:15:39.840 --> 0:15:41.760 out for me and saying, you know what, if you 0:15:41.800 --> 0:15:44.600 can't get a real musician get a pretty good fake, 0:15:44.680 --> 0:15:47.440 one good grouper. So I have a feeling that's what 0:15:47.480 --> 0:15:49.800 it is. And maybe they had me come in and 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.480 just read it Scott, I don't recall like and just 0:15:52.520 --> 0:15:54.800 if he doesn't screw up, then yes we'll give him 0:15:54.840 --> 0:15:57.440 the part. It might have been like that, right, right, right? 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:02.040 So do you remember your first day on the set? Uh? No, 0:16:02.160 --> 0:16:04.560 I do not, except remember the first phone call I 0:16:04.600 --> 0:16:08.360 had with your amazing team there, and they said, what 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:09.960 are you gonna sing? And I go, I don't know. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.400 I was gonna see going down the Road feeling bad? Right, Oh? 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:15.160 And I remember what I was gonna say about Wilson 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:18.040 Junior High. So going down the Road feeling bad it's 0:16:18.080 --> 0:16:21.360 a grateful, dead cover of an old timey folk song. 0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:23.840 But then I had this long conversation with the music 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:28.040 clearance team, and boy, you want a busy job music 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:30.680 clearance for the Gilmurg girls. Are you kidding me? Right? 0:16:31.040 --> 0:16:34.800 That would be like the busiest job ever in show business. 0:16:35.040 --> 0:16:38.600 They're delving, They're delving into every genre of music pretty much, 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:41.240 oh my gosh. And it's just it's endless between Grant 0:16:41.280 --> 0:16:43.800 Lee's original songs, whatnot and just all the songs and 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.080 all the artists you've had on and so I'm sorry, 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.200 I gotta flashback real quick. People, when I was working 0:16:49.240 --> 0:16:52.680 at Wilson Junior High in Glendale, and again you and 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:55.280 I two months apart, my friend. All the students would 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:58.000 ask me, hey, Mr aland are you a hippie? And 0:16:58.040 --> 0:17:00.000 I would explain, well, I was ten when the hip 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:05.480 these were getting hippiefied, So yeah, I embraced the hippie gig. 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:08.040 But no it was not. So that clears that up. 0:17:08.200 --> 0:17:10.320 I'm gonna say it was Grantly Phillips. I'm gonna say 0:17:10.320 --> 0:17:12.439 I don't remember my first day on set, but I 0:17:12.480 --> 0:17:15.280 remember a day with Jamie Babbitt when we get to 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:19.120 that episode. Okay, so right, well that this is the episode, 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:22.920 this is the episode week this is you with the 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:26.320 the the the the open air market, the vegetable moment 0:17:26.480 --> 0:17:30.840 was that and that was Jamie directing that. Okay, I 0:17:30.920 --> 0:17:33.720 love everything about Jamie Babbott. Let's just make that clear 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:37.119 right up top, okay. And then she said the most 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:40.760 gil More Girlean thing to me that I think in 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:44.440 those four times that I visited, I think I ever heard. Um. 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.159 It was some complicated scene. Maybe a jib shot or 0:17:47.200 --> 0:17:50.800 something like. Something was going on uber at the focus 0:17:50.840 --> 0:17:54.240 of it, and she took me aside, super quietly, super cool. 0:17:54.280 --> 0:17:56.280 Did not bring this up in front of the other 0:17:57.000 --> 0:17:58.760 in front of the writers, in front of the producers, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:01.200 in front of the other cast, and she just quietly 0:18:01.200 --> 0:18:03.359 said to me, Gruber, doing great out there. You're like 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.560 real supportive, you know what I mean. Scott's just all 0:18:05.600 --> 0:18:08.679 about you know, you're doing great. Everything's cool. Could you 0:18:08.760 --> 0:18:13.160 tie those lines together? Because I was doing these sort 0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.199 of pinter pauses William Schattner I don't know what I 0:18:16.240 --> 0:18:20.800 was doing williams Chattner thing or Harold pinter pauses, and 0:18:20.880 --> 0:18:23.280 she just quietly said, Grouber, you know, it would be 0:18:23.280 --> 0:18:26.359 great if you just pull those lines. And I go, oh, 0:18:26.600 --> 0:18:29.399 you mean, like every line ever said in a Gilmore 0:18:29.440 --> 0:18:32.360 Girls episode. I go, thank you, Jamie got it. I'll 0:18:32.359 --> 0:18:35.280 do my best. And it worked because that, you know 0:18:35.320 --> 0:18:37.960 what I mean? They all flowed beautifully together because you 0:18:38.000 --> 0:18:40.560 were very smooth in this. That was that was the 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.080 sensation I was getting listening to you. You're acting. It's 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:45.360 so easy to sit back and listen to because it's 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:49.760 so smooth and cool and funny. Thanks, you really stole 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:54.159 this episode. You're seriously without without overdoing it. You know, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.240 the writing is super strong because it all starts with 0:18:56.280 --> 0:18:59.320 the writing, right, you know. But then I gotta say 0:18:59.520 --> 0:19:02.600 Jamie because she was so cool about it, like I 0:19:02.600 --> 0:19:04.159 could have fought it, like I'm gonna do it, by 0:19:04.160 --> 0:19:06.960 the way, and she's like, just try this. You know this. 0:19:07.000 --> 0:19:08.200 I think she even said it was one of those 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:10.199 things where you give the actor a choice. And so 0:19:10.280 --> 0:19:12.720 Jamie really came through for me and then set me 0:19:12.760 --> 0:19:14.840 up for the next three episodes after that. You know 0:19:14.880 --> 0:19:17.720 what I mean that I was in you, but thank 0:19:17.760 --> 0:19:20.320 you for your good words. Oh no, there was there's 0:19:20.320 --> 0:19:23.240 no other option but to do you know, to to 0:19:23.320 --> 0:19:26.720 string it all together. I mean, yeah, taking a pinteresque 0:19:26.800 --> 0:19:32.600 pause no oh no, no, recommended the time for that. 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:38.119 Uh So, your relationship with Taylor Dosie Michael Winners did delightful. 0:19:39.440 --> 0:19:42.000 It wasn't he What was your off screen relationship Like, 0:19:42.080 --> 0:19:44.840 did you guys click right away or what was that? Like? 0:19:45.520 --> 0:19:47.360 I think we did. You know what I looked to him? 0:19:47.480 --> 0:19:49.320 He liked you and many of the others in your 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:52.440 cast as an actor actor, right, so you know we 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.360 just kind of talked about that kind of stuff, you know, like, hey, 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:57.119 what have you been in? What are you doing? How's 0:19:57.160 --> 0:20:00.480 your Because he's an actual the interactor, is he not right, 0:20:00.480 --> 0:20:04.320 he's a big, big classical actor. Yeah, yeah, so we 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:06.480 I think we talked a little about that and Scott, 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.840 you know what, if there was podcast at the time, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.199 all I did was talking with your cast about what 0:20:12.240 --> 0:20:14.439 they were doing. So they were always happy to have 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:16.400 me and let's have some fun. But when you set 0:20:16.440 --> 0:20:19.040 off screen relationship that was the same unfixing geeks to 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.280 where I just wanted to go, where are you from, 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.720 what are you doing? What's your gig? You know that 0:20:23.800 --> 0:20:25.879 was because I'm always curious about people and want to 0:20:25.920 --> 0:20:28.240 learn more about them. So I'm sure I just found out, 0:20:28.600 --> 0:20:33.960 Oh he's as cool as he looks On dav with Michael, Um, 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:39.240 how would you describe the character of Taylor Dozy? And 0:20:39.440 --> 0:20:43.840 I described the character Taylor Dozy? Oh wow, I don't 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:48.320 know that's I really have nothing for that. Um kind 0:20:48.320 --> 0:20:50.080 of uh, you know what, maybe a fly in the 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:55.359 ointment that a bit of a gad fly, lovable gad fly. 0:20:57.240 --> 0:20:59.880 He certainly had his opinion of you, that's for sure. 0:21:00.040 --> 0:21:03.160 Oh my gosh. Yeah, not pretty thick, I mean he uh. 0:21:03.160 --> 0:21:05.520 He referred to you as the long haired freaks of 0:21:05.560 --> 0:21:09.320 van Halen hair his her suit hippie rapunzel. I think 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.560 there were a couple of van Halen hair he called you, 0:21:13.680 --> 0:21:15.400 I think two or three different names in the town 0:21:15.400 --> 0:21:18.760 hall meeting in that episode. It was hysterical. What's funny too, 0:21:18.880 --> 0:21:21.840 is that by doing van Halen hair he gets he gets, 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.760 you know, one point for that, because if he's talking 0:21:24.760 --> 0:21:27.360 to David lee Roth van Halen, then yeah, man, I'll 0:21:27.400 --> 0:21:29.840 take it. That's a nice you know, it's a nice 0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.159 head of hair at the time, right, you know, I 0:21:32.240 --> 0:21:36.400 kind of apology Matty hair here right now though, um 0:21:36.720 --> 0:21:40.879 Dwayne Johnson hair right here. Check out the buddy between 0:21:40.960 --> 0:21:49.200 Johnson kind of yeah it is. Yeah, You're you seem 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:53.280