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Speaker 2: Good Morning Football.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Good Morning Football. We are live in New

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Speaker 3: York City. It is Thursday at July thirteenth. I'm Sarah

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Speaker 3: Walsh alongside Cameron Wolf. We've got Seahawks safety Julian Love

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Speaker 3: and now we've got free agent Super Bowl champion defensive

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Speaker 3: tackle Malik Jackson joining us. Yeah, first first show. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Julian's a grizzled veteran. Now you've done this show how

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Speaker 3: many times? This is my third now grizzled veteran, and

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Speaker 3: Malik's near to the table.

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Speaker 4: Yes, I'm the rookie, now rookie all over again.

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Speaker 5: We're going a long tooss. Since you've been a rookie right.

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Speaker 4: In a long time now, I.

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Speaker 6: Don't know, don't date him.

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Speaker 3: We were just talking about how when you come into

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Speaker 3: the league and the ages of everyone and then you

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Speaker 3: just start to I was saying that about myself, even

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Speaker 3: when you see the year that guys are born. Now,

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Speaker 3: so anyway, Cam, don't bring up a subject. I'll get

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Speaker 3: us out of this time. Now for the lead block,

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Speaker 3: lead block, Let's start with the Browns.

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Speaker 6: They missed the postseason.

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Speaker 3: In twenty twenty two, wide receiver Amari Cooper underwent core

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Speaker 3: muscle surgery. He has missed some of his off season work,

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Speaker 3: but that doesn't concern quarterback Deshan Watson. Here's what Watson

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Speaker 3: had to say about Cooper being ready for the regular season.

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Speaker 3: He said, quote, he's a guy that's a vet, been

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Speaker 3: in the league a while, so you know, he knows

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Speaker 3: exactly what he needs to do to be ready for

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Speaker 3: the season and training camp.

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Speaker 6: Our chemistry is going to be tight.

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Speaker 3: You have been hanging out and just going to continue

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Speaker 3: to build that chemistry. So Watson says his chemistry is

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Speaker 3: going to be tight with Amari this season.

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Speaker 6: He says that two are hanging out.

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Speaker 3: We heard Jamar Chase Joe Burrow talk about this and

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Speaker 3: how important it is for these receivers and their quarterback

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Speaker 3: to spend time away from the field. Guys, what are

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Speaker 3: the Browns need to do to be a surprise playoff

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Speaker 3: team in twenty three?

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Speaker 7: Kim, Yeah, it's gotta start with the quarterback, Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 7: That he needs to be the superstar quarterback they traded

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Speaker 7: for him to be. And you could just remind people

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Speaker 7: of what they paid him after they made that trade.

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Speaker 7: You got a situation where you're paying a quarterback like

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Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson the most guaranteed money that any player has

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Speaker 7: ever received, and you need that type of value. And

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Speaker 7: we need to see the version of DeShawn where he

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Speaker 7: was in Houston, where he's putting up crazy numbers third

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Speaker 7: in completion percentage first, and passing yard first and yards

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Speaker 7: per attempt. He was one of the best three to

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Speaker 7: five quarterbacks in football. And last year, whether it was

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Speaker 7: the rust, whether it was suspension, we didn't get that

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Speaker 7: version of him early. And we know the Browns have

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Speaker 7: Nick Chubb, we know they have a solid defense, particularly

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Speaker 7: on the passing side of the ball. They need that

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Speaker 7: quarterback to step up. And Sarah, you're the resident Sarah

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Speaker 7: soccer expert here on the stage. I look at the

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Speaker 7: AFC North as the group of deaf world cume time.

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Speaker 7: We always talk about the group of death where there's

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Speaker 7: four teams and you're like, somebody's gonna go home.

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Speaker 5: Sorry, maybe two teams going home? Sorry? How can the

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Speaker 5: Browns be the surprise team?

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Speaker 7: They got to make sure that Deshaun is better than

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Speaker 7: one of those other quarterbacks in the group of death teams,

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Speaker 7: the Bengals, the Ravens, the Steelers. It's a tough challenge.

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Speaker 7: Can you be better than Joe Burrow? Can you be

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Speaker 7: better than Lamar Jackson? The Browns needed out of the Shawn.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, without a doubt.

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Speaker 9: You know, despite finishing last in the division, they actually

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Speaker 9: have a really good roster. When you look at offense,

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Speaker 9: they're a good team.

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Speaker 9: Now these have to compete in like you said, a tough,

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Speaker 9: tough division and it's gonna take their all, and the

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Speaker 10: I think guys have to stay healthy, stay on the field,

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Speaker 10: It got together, create a clear hierarchy, and let everybody

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, when we talk about it, I feel

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Speaker 3: like it's almost like they're forgotten in the sense of

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Speaker 6: This is a team.

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Speaker 3: When we ask what do they have to do, maybe

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Speaker 6: Is about them.

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Speaker 3: If you look at what they did in their division

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Speaker 3: a year ago, they went three and three.

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Speaker 6: They went three and zero at home.

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Speaker 3: So maybe what they need to do is win a

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Speaker 3: And then, yes, it all does come down to Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 3: But with the run game they have, does Deshaun Watson

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Speaker 3: And almost all of those rushing categories, and so a

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Speaker 7: The pieces are there, But the reality is, you pay

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Speaker 7: Deshaun Watson that much money, he can't be a piece

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Speaker 5: He has to be the reason.

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Speaker 7: Nick Chubb's going to be Nick Chubb, right, But if

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Speaker 5: Have supporting pieces. We need to see that out of Dashawn.

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Speaker 7: He has a lot of pressure on him this offseason,

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Speaker 7: gross of what happened off the field. You pay a

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Speaker 7: want to go back to you, to Malik, you said

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Speaker 7: something interesting about the chemistry of this team. You played

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I just think you have two first round picks,

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Speaker 10: you know, guys that want to come in. You know,

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Speaker 10: for me being on different teams, I was able to

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Speaker 10: this guy's team. You know, you have to really take

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Speaker 10: what needed to be done. I think, you know, Miles

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Speaker 7: What were those conversations like in twenty one, Like you're

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Speaker 10: You know, it's one of those things some guys just

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Speaker 10: don't have it when you know what I mean, Especially

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Speaker 10: you know, but the younger guys are gonna respect the

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Speaker 7: So when you mentioned that, I think about your your

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Speaker 7: You had a guy like DeMarcus Ware, who is that

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Speaker 7: become that? Like can you see a Miles Geartt become

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Speaker 4: I think so because of the other rooms that he has.

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Speaker 10: But it is hard, and you are right, you know,

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Speaker 4: The right things.

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Speaker 10: And luckily I was with a group of guys that

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Speaker 10: be great. And I think once you have that, that

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Speaker 10: helps a lot. But I think you can learn it.

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Speaker 10: It's just might take a little time, and I think

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Speaker 10: that's what we're seeing now.

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Speaker 3: It feels like so often on the show we measure

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Speaker 3: as Kansas City Chiefs, they're the benchmark, that's what everyone's chasing.

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Speaker 3: But I feel like the Bengals are put up there.

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Speaker 3: We talk about Joe Burrow with that same sentiment. We

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Speaker 3: back to Joe Bert.

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Speaker 6: They beat them.

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Speaker 3: The Browns beat them on Halloween on Monday Night Football soundly.

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Speaker 6: It was thirty two to thirteen.

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Speaker 8: Think, groop of Death.

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Speaker 9: it's pretty open right now. These close games we all know,

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Speaker 3: Only when you said that, I thought AFC East, I

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Speaker 7: So you can tell me if I'm wrong. Can there

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Speaker 3: Is just a maybe we should get away from that

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Speaker 10: When you say group of death, I think we're thinking

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Speaker 7: Obviously he was the guy in that division, the one

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Speaker 7: everybody was afraid of.

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Speaker 5: Who are you more afraid of? In this division?

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Speaker 7: You've got Joe Burrow, you got Lamar Jackson, Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 7: Kittie Pickett. Which quarterback makes you, guys most afraid. I guess, Julian,

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Speaker 8: Let's say this. No quarterback is making me afraid?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Abs not Okay, who do you want to least get?

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Speaker 9: I think you know we played him last year with

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 8: He's some assault on that one.

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Speaker 9: But this, I mean, yeah, these quarterbacks are all tough,

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Speaker 9: Joe Burrow is just playing out of his mind. Lamar's

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Speaker 9: up there, Deshaun Watson pickets on his way.

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Speaker 9: I'll pick picket, uh, because he's the one I always be

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Speaker 7: So he's so to be clear, he's yeah, is not

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Speaker 7: the first because the other guys are established, absolutely, they're established.

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Speaker 9: Pickets on his way. He's going, he's rising each year.

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Speaker 9: He's taking us up up in his game, and his

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Speaker 5: So if pickets four is Lamar one for you, then

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Speaker 5: Lamar will be one for me. Okay, what about you, Belie.

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Speaker 4: Same here, Lamar.

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Speaker 10: I remember when we were playing I gainst the egos

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Speaker 10: I know, I'm looking up, he's down there. So I

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Speaker 10: think the athleticism of Lamar is passing the way. He's

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Speaker 10: out now.

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Speaker 7: I think it's interesting we got two defenders that say

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Speaker 5: Yeah, the game plan is you know number eight.

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Speaker 6: We were talking it was even yesterday.

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Speaker 3: We were like, maybe the Ravens aren't getting the do

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Speaker 6: Still a come on, g MSB.

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Speaker 3: Will the Giants show Saque the money or will the

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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl running back hold out? We're going to break

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Speaker 7: Plus, we know all about some of the top defensive

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Speaker 7: more respect.

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Speaker 5: Julian Love will give us his top three next.

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Speaker 2: Fall.

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Speaker 9: Yesterday I gave some much deserved love to my guy

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Speaker 9: Kandrey Diggs, and clearly he agrees, not that he's not

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Speaker 9: getting as much respect as he should, but that in

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Speaker 9: mind came and I thought it would be a perfect

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Speaker 9: time to break down our top three underrated defensive backs

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Speaker 9: in the league right now with another edition of three

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Speaker 9: on three, let's do it. Each of us are going

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Speaker 9: to reveal our top three current DB's who deserve more respect.

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Speaker 9: Kicking off my list at number three is mister Hookah himself,

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Speaker 9: mister Baldman, James Bradberry.

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Speaker 5: Let's go.

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Speaker 9: You hear a lot of love about the guy on

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Speaker 9: one of the best players in the game, one of

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Speaker 9: the best DB's in the game right now, and you

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Speaker 9: don't hear as much about Bradberry. He's one of the

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Speaker 9: best shut down corners in the league. Since he got

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Speaker 9: in the league, has had the most pass defense. That's

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Speaker 9: just the underrated set. Obviously, you see Slay at two,

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Speaker 9: but Bradbury's right there at number one, and people don't

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Speaker 9: a guy who has competed for multiple teams down He's

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Speaker 9: a baller with the Panthers, he was a ball with

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Speaker 9: he got his money.

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Speaker 7: So when I hear James Bradbery, I think about the

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Speaker 7: quiet consistency.

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Speaker 5: Look at this list, two Eagles.

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Speaker 7: Two Dolphins now very pretty consistent cornerback play.

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Speaker 5: For me, I'm gonna start off number three.

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Speaker 7: With a small guy, a slot corner because they often

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Speaker 7: get forgetting Mike Hilton from the Cincinnati Bengals. And here's

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Speaker 7: a guy who's always been told he is too small,

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Speaker 7: he is not good enough, but every time he has

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Speaker 7: most tackles of any cornerback out of the slot over

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Speaker 7: the last six years, most at five to nine. And

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Speaker 7: this turnaround tremendously. I've been in the locker room and

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Speaker 5: The little brother.

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Speaker 7: Then then he goes over to the Cincinnati Bengals and

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Speaker 7: helps make them big brother of that the AFC North

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Speaker 7: that we were just talking about. He is not afraid

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Speaker 7: to go against you if you're six to two, if

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Speaker 7: you're five to nine. He had a lot of fun

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Speaker 7: some talking. He was the guy who made the Boroughhead

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Speaker 7: comment that ended up being proven wrong. But he wants

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Speaker 7: something to say about the Chiefs this year. And Mike

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Speaker 8: I love that pick. Slock Corners need more love. You

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Speaker 8: heard it here.

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Speaker 5: Yes, grateful.

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Speaker 9: With my number two pick, I'm going with a guy

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Speaker 9: who came out swinging his rookie season in Seattle, Mister

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Speaker 9: Tariq Woollen. You know you hear a lot of love

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Speaker 9: about the guy in the East Coast, the rookie who's

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Speaker 9: balling saw us, who had a great year. Let's take

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Speaker 9: it all the way out to the Pacific Northwest now

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Speaker 9: where I'm at. Tarik Woollen had a killer rookie season.

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Speaker 9: You know, the guy six to three, he runs a

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Speaker 9: four to two seven. Being around him in these past

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Speaker 9: And it shows why he can run with the Tyreek

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Speaker 9: Hills the world or he can guard.

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Speaker 8: You know, he's on our team, the Mike Evans.

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Speaker 9: The DK Metcalfs, the guys who have more size, because

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Speaker 9: it all in one. He led the league last year

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Speaker 9: and picks Todd for six That's amazing. And yeah, he

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Speaker 9: had four straight games with a pick from Week three

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Speaker 9: to week six. That's incredible, especially as a rookie. Yes,

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Speaker 9: getting those mistakes out early, playing at a high level early,

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Speaker 7: Man, I can feel your excitement. Man, you get to

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Speaker 7: play with Tarik wooland this year, Yeah.

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Speaker 5: He balled out fifth round pick, a fifth round pick.

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Speaker 5: That's doing that. I bet some.

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Speaker 7: Seahawk fans felt a little bit of legion of boom

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Speaker 7: see that early potential. This place knows how to draft.

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Speaker 7: DB's for sure or number two on my list. I'm

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Speaker 7: taking things down to South Beach, going with a dolphin

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Speaker 7: snowman Javon Holland. And this is the guy who has

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Speaker 5: What stands out about Javon Holland.

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Speaker 7: When they talk to coaches around the league offensive coordinators,

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Speaker 7: they say, every time we turn on a teap we

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Speaker 7: whether it's in the box.

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Speaker 5: He is the guy you have to worry.

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Speaker 7: About on the Dolphins defense because he can pop in

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Speaker 5: You guys need to know Javon Holland's name as well.

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Speaker 8: Oh, that secondary's gonna be something special for sure.

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Speaker 9: With my number one pick most underrated defensive back in

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Speaker 9: the league right now, I'm going Jalen Petrie. Okay, you

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00:18:00,188 --> 00:18:03,788
Speaker 9: know this guy had a crazy rookie season and no

436
00:18:03,788 --> 00:18:05,628
Speaker 9: one was talking about him. I think it's because the

437
00:18:05,708 --> 00:18:09,348
Speaker 9: lack of success the Texans had, but this guy had

438
00:18:09,348 --> 00:18:13,628
Speaker 9: one hundred and forty five tackles and five picks. I'm

439
00:18:13,628 --> 00:18:15,708
Speaker 9: gonna repeat that, one hundred and forty five tackles and

440
00:18:15,748 --> 00:18:16,148
Speaker 9: five picks.

441
00:18:16,188 --> 00:18:16,788
Speaker 5: That's unheard of.

442
00:18:16,988 --> 00:18:17,828
Speaker 8: That's unreal.

443
00:18:18,228 --> 00:18:20,828
Speaker 9: And you know he's as a rookie, and he was

444
00:18:20,908 --> 00:18:24,228
Speaker 9: a rookie doing this was amazing. He was coming down

445
00:18:24,548 --> 00:18:26,388
Speaker 9: off the post, he was playing in the box, this

446
00:18:26,468 --> 00:18:28,948
Speaker 9: guy was in all the action. I loved watching this film.

447
00:18:28,948 --> 00:18:30,948
Speaker 9: And as I was tracking my stats throughout the year,

448
00:18:30,948 --> 00:18:33,068
Speaker 9: every couple of weeks, I'm like, who is this guy?

449
00:18:33,188 --> 00:18:34,988
Speaker 9: Who's this rookie down in Houston?

450
00:18:35,028 --> 00:18:35,788
Speaker 8: Ballin Yes?

451
00:18:35,948 --> 00:18:38,308
Speaker 9: And he finished the year and he's one of three

452
00:18:38,348 --> 00:18:41,028
Speaker 9: players since two thousand with one hundred and forty tackles,

453
00:18:41,028 --> 00:18:42,828
Speaker 9: at least one hundred and forty tackles and at least

454
00:18:42,868 --> 00:18:45,428
Speaker 9: five picks in the season. One of three since two thousand.

455
00:18:45,468 --> 00:18:48,468
Speaker 9: That's unreal and he needs more credit. He's my most

456
00:18:48,588 --> 00:18:50,868
Speaker 9: underrated dB got to give love to a safety, and

457
00:18:50,908 --> 00:18:51,588
Speaker 9: so that's my guy.

458
00:18:51,868 --> 00:18:53,428
Speaker 7: You look at some of these highlights, you see him

459
00:18:53,468 --> 00:18:55,788
Speaker 7: bringing them hit stick, you see him picking off balls,

460
00:18:55,788 --> 00:18:58,708
Speaker 7: you see him making big tackles, you're right, Jaalen Petree man.

461
00:18:58,708 --> 00:19:01,788
Speaker 7: People are gonna know his name very soon. Demiko Ryans

462
00:19:01,788 --> 00:19:04,388
Speaker 7: can help take him to the next level. Number one

463
00:19:04,508 --> 00:19:06,828
Speaker 7: For me, I've got to go down to Atlanta and

464
00:19:06,868 --> 00:19:10,108
Speaker 7: get AJ Terrell. I don't know why this guy is

465
00:19:10,148 --> 00:19:13,108
Speaker 7: not mentioned on top cornerback lists. Maybe it's what you

466
00:19:13,148 --> 00:19:15,788
Speaker 7: were mentioned earlier, because he's quiet. You know, quiet guys

467
00:19:15,828 --> 00:19:18,548
Speaker 7: typically don't get as much love as the loud guys.

468
00:19:18,668 --> 00:19:21,348
Speaker 7: But AJ Terrell since twenty twenty one has allowed the

469
00:19:21,428 --> 00:19:24,908
Speaker 7: fewest yards of any cornerback in the entire league, with

470
00:19:24,948 --> 00:19:27,148
Speaker 7: at least one hundred targets. So this is a guy

471
00:19:27,148 --> 00:19:29,388
Speaker 7: who when you look at the numbers, maybe he doesn't

472
00:19:29,428 --> 00:19:31,628
Speaker 7: have the pick numbers, but when you look at how

473
00:19:31,628 --> 00:19:34,468
Speaker 7: many yards going against him, AJ Terrell has been a

474
00:19:35,228 --> 00:19:39,188
Speaker 7: dark cloud for receivers, for quarterbacks, you're not getting anything

475
00:19:39,228 --> 00:19:41,148
Speaker 7: off of him. He's a guy who has fifty point

476
00:19:41,228 --> 00:19:44,348
Speaker 7: seven completion percentage when thrown against him, and really you

477
00:19:44,388 --> 00:19:46,508
Speaker 7: don't worry about him. He's on his own island, Terrell

478
00:19:46,588 --> 00:19:49,828
Speaker 7: island out there in Atlanta. And so AJ Terrell is

479
00:19:49,868 --> 00:19:52,708
Speaker 7: a guy that you guys should very much know. And

480
00:19:52,828 --> 00:19:56,028
Speaker 7: here is our list right here, you got Julian's list,

481
00:19:56,268 --> 00:20:00,508
Speaker 7: He's got Jaln Petrie, Tarik Wooland, and James Bradberry. I

482
00:20:00,548 --> 00:20:03,788
Speaker 7: love that list, and then me aj Terrell, Javon Holland,

483
00:20:03,948 --> 00:20:04,348
Speaker 7: Mike Hill.

484
00:20:04,708 --> 00:20:06,628
Speaker 5: These are guys that y'all need to know their names

485
00:20:06,788 --> 00:20:09,668
Speaker 5: with's some respect on their name. What do you guys think, Cam?

486
00:20:09,668 --> 00:20:11,308
Speaker 6: I got a question for you and you sort of

487
00:20:11,348 --> 00:20:12,308
Speaker 6: touched on this, and when.

488
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Speaker 3: Julian put up about the passes defense and you see

489
00:20:14,588 --> 00:20:16,908
Speaker 3: the two Dolphins there. If Holland was on another team,

490
00:20:16,988 --> 00:20:17,908
Speaker 3: would we all know his name?

491
00:20:17,988 --> 00:20:19,108
Speaker 5: Absolutely? Absolutely?

492
00:20:19,148 --> 00:20:19,988
Speaker 6: I mean some of there is a.

493
00:20:19,908 --> 00:20:24,028
Speaker 3: Product of him being underrated, is like superstar guys on

494
00:20:24,068 --> 00:20:24,828
Speaker 3: that unit with him.

495
00:20:24,908 --> 00:20:25,108
Speaker 6: Right.

496
00:20:25,188 --> 00:20:27,028
Speaker 7: Look at some of the teams we have up here.

497
00:20:27,068 --> 00:20:30,308
Speaker 7: We have Houston, we have Atlanta, we have Miami. You

498
00:20:30,348 --> 00:20:33,548
Speaker 7: know a lot of these teams have consistently not been

499
00:20:34,268 --> 00:20:36,068
Speaker 7: a contender. And so a lot of times you're in

500
00:20:36,068 --> 00:20:39,188
Speaker 7: the South, you're not a team that's making the playoffs consistently.

501
00:20:39,228 --> 00:20:41,428
Speaker 7: You don't get the love or the notoriety as a

502
00:20:42,028 --> 00:20:45,348
Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagle or Kansas City Chief or a Buffalo Bill, Right,

503
00:20:45,428 --> 00:20:47,268
Speaker 7: and so a lot of these guys, some of it's.

504
00:20:47,028 --> 00:20:48,748
Speaker 5: Market and some of us. These guys are young.

505
00:20:48,908 --> 00:20:52,868
Speaker 7: We have young players Jalen Petrie, Tarique wooland Javon Holland

506
00:20:52,908 --> 00:20:55,588
Speaker 7: these are guys who are all aj Terrell, all guys

507
00:20:55,628 --> 00:20:58,068
Speaker 7: twenty five twenty six are under and so it's just

508
00:20:58,108 --> 00:21:00,068
Speaker 7: a matter of time for a couple of these dudes.

509
00:21:00,148 --> 00:21:03,588
Speaker 9: Yeah, those are the two key factors, age and market

510
00:21:03,708 --> 00:21:06,068
Speaker 9: as well as a lot of these guys are quiet guys.

511
00:21:07,508 --> 00:21:09,268
Speaker 3: We just talked about that this is the group that

512
00:21:09,308 --> 00:21:10,588
Speaker 3: wants to trash talk the most.

513
00:21:10,988 --> 00:21:11,868
Speaker 8: I know, that's what you hear.

514
00:21:11,988 --> 00:21:13,348
Speaker 5: That found the non trast talk.

515
00:21:14,948 --> 00:21:17,028
Speaker 9: I want to you got to pull up some tape

516
00:21:17,028 --> 00:21:19,668
Speaker 9: about James Barberry talking because that Evan does not talk

517
00:21:19,708 --> 00:21:21,748
Speaker 9: at all, but he knows ball. And these guys have

518
00:21:21,788 --> 00:21:23,828
Speaker 9: been productive, they've been balling, and yeah, they're not the

519
00:21:23,868 --> 00:21:26,588
Speaker 9: most out spoken guys. I have a little more love

520
00:21:26,708 --> 00:21:29,988
Speaker 9: for the quiet guys, the introverted guys. Yeah, but they're

521
00:21:30,028 --> 00:21:32,588
Speaker 9: ballers and so they need some more love. Start talking

522
00:21:32,628 --> 00:21:34,628
Speaker 9: about them because they won't gust themselves up.

523
00:21:34,668 --> 00:21:36,868
Speaker 5: I love it. Julian Love says, these guys need some

524
00:21:36,908 --> 00:21:38,468
Speaker 5: more love. He wasn't. He didn't.

525
00:21:38,468 --> 00:21:40,988
Speaker 7: We didn't put himself on the list, but he deserves

526
00:21:41,028 --> 00:21:43,268
Speaker 7: some love as well, one of the more underrated DB's

527
00:21:43,308 --> 00:21:45,988
Speaker 7: in the league. And watch later on in this show,

528
00:21:46,228 --> 00:21:49,348
Speaker 7: we're going to talk about our favorite all time DB's

529
00:21:49,628 --> 00:21:51,148
Speaker 7: and so I can't wait to tell you mine.

530
00:21:51,228 --> 00:21:52,548
Speaker 5: Julian has got a good one as well.

531
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Speaker 8: Well.

532
00:21:53,868 --> 00:21:55,148
Speaker 6: Welcome back to Good Morning Football.

533
00:21:55,148 --> 00:21:58,588
Speaker 3: Saquon Barkley has until four o'clock on Monday to sign

534
00:21:58,628 --> 00:22:02,068
Speaker 3: his franchise tender or a long term deal. Yesterday, Pro

535
00:22:02,108 --> 00:22:05,628
Speaker 3: Football Talk reporter that the Giants extended Saquon an offer

536
00:22:05,708 --> 00:22:09,348
Speaker 3: before applying the franchise tag. We're thirteen million per year,

537
00:22:09,388 --> 00:22:13,028
Speaker 3: but Barkley turned that down in hopes of quote Christian

538
00:22:13,108 --> 00:22:16,908
Speaker 3: McCaffrey money, which would be in the range of sixteen.

539
00:22:16,548 --> 00:22:17,548
Speaker 6: Million a year.

540
00:22:17,628 --> 00:22:22,108
Speaker 3: Saquon then responded via Twitter with two cap emojis. According

541
00:22:22,148 --> 00:22:25,228
Speaker 3: to gen Z, that means Saquon says the report is untrue.

542
00:22:25,428 --> 00:22:27,428
Speaker 6: Is this true, Julie in your life? I mean, I

543
00:22:27,428 --> 00:22:30,468
Speaker 6: don't know. Somebody's got to decipher it for us. It

544
00:22:30,548 --> 00:22:32,668
Speaker 6: leaves a lot up to Is that what that means?

545
00:22:32,748 --> 00:22:32,908
Speaker 4: Yeah?

546
00:22:32,948 --> 00:22:34,188
Speaker 8: Gen Z approves of that.

547
00:22:34,268 --> 00:22:37,988
Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, that's the correct that's the correct description. All right.

548
00:22:38,388 --> 00:22:40,148
Speaker 3: Diamon is running out for the two parties to reach

549
00:22:40,188 --> 00:22:43,108
Speaker 3: a long term deal. So if it doesn't happen, Saquon

550
00:22:43,268 --> 00:22:45,748
Speaker 3: can only play on the tag for the twenty twenty

551
00:22:45,788 --> 00:22:48,388
Speaker 3: three season. Guys, how important is it for the Giants

552
00:22:48,388 --> 00:22:50,588
Speaker 3: to get a long term deal done with him?

553
00:22:50,708 --> 00:22:54,508
Speaker 7: Cam It's very important Saquon Barkley is the Giants.

554
00:22:54,628 --> 00:22:57,228
Speaker 5: You know, they just paid Daniel Jones forty million dollars

555
00:22:57,268 --> 00:22:57,588
Speaker 5: a year.

556
00:22:57,668 --> 00:23:00,188
Speaker 7: But the reality is Saquon Barkley has been one of

557
00:23:00,228 --> 00:23:02,028
Speaker 7: the best running backs in the league, not only a

558
00:23:02,108 --> 00:23:04,388
Speaker 7: running back guy that's effective in the past game as well.

559
00:23:04,628 --> 00:23:07,108
Speaker 7: Look at his offensive touches last year, his first year

560
00:23:07,148 --> 00:23:10,188
Speaker 7: and while he's been fully healthy, third in the league

561
00:23:10,308 --> 00:23:12,828
Speaker 7: in offensive touches. And we also have another graphic just

562
00:23:12,868 --> 00:23:15,788
Speaker 7: to show how much of his offensive share is That

563
00:23:15,828 --> 00:23:18,348
Speaker 7: will show later, but I'll look here and you see

564
00:23:18,348 --> 00:23:21,628
Speaker 7: how much he's set to be paid. He's seventh behind

565
00:23:21,788 --> 00:23:23,868
Speaker 7: six other running backs, and what his salary is going

566
00:23:23,948 --> 00:23:25,988
Speaker 7: to be. And so when you see him saying, hey,

567
00:23:26,028 --> 00:23:28,348
Speaker 7: I want a little bit more, I understand that. But

568
00:23:28,388 --> 00:23:31,108
Speaker 7: the reality is the NFL has not shown that they

569
00:23:31,148 --> 00:23:34,188
Speaker 7: care much about running backs recently. Nobody is having an

570
00:23:34,268 --> 00:23:36,668
Speaker 7: easy time in the running back market. Getting more money,

571
00:23:36,868 --> 00:23:39,908
Speaker 7: and so I can hate it. Running backs can hate it,

572
00:23:39,908 --> 00:23:42,428
Speaker 7: but it seems that reality is they're going to give

573
00:23:42,508 --> 00:23:45,068
Speaker 7: him what they feel their value is. But I'm telling

574
00:23:45,108 --> 00:23:47,028
Speaker 7: you what if they get rid of Saquon. If they

575
00:23:47,028 --> 00:23:51,428
Speaker 7: lose Saquon, this team dramatically declines. And so we're gonna

576
00:23:51,428 --> 00:23:53,908
Speaker 7: see truly the value of Saquon if they let him

577
00:23:53,908 --> 00:23:55,908
Speaker 7: play the franchise tag and hit free agency next year.

578
00:23:56,028 --> 00:23:57,788
Speaker 3: Julian, you know this guy better than any of us

579
00:23:58,028 --> 00:23:59,948
Speaker 3: up here. What does he mean to this Giant's team.

580
00:24:00,188 --> 00:24:01,748
Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I've seen it firsthand in the past

581
00:24:01,788 --> 00:24:06,788
Speaker 9: four years. He's battle adversity all while having the franchise

582
00:24:06,828 --> 00:24:09,228
Speaker 9: on his shoulders. He's when you look in the crowd

583
00:24:09,468 --> 00:24:12,868
Speaker 9: at MetLife you see twenty six jerseys, it's him. Saquon

584
00:24:12,988 --> 00:24:15,988
Speaker 9: is the face of the organization. And yeah, the market's tough,

585
00:24:16,068 --> 00:24:17,828
Speaker 9: that's the reality of what's happening.

586
00:24:18,108 --> 00:24:21,588
Speaker 8: But he is the team and he I.

587
00:24:21,508 --> 00:24:23,068
Speaker 9: Think if you look at those player comps, you look

588
00:24:23,068 --> 00:24:25,308
Speaker 9: at that top list of the run back money, he

589
00:24:25,388 --> 00:24:27,948
Speaker 9: is in the conversation without a doubt. So this past

590
00:24:27,988 --> 00:24:30,708
Speaker 9: year we were successful as a team with the Giants

591
00:24:30,908 --> 00:24:33,948
Speaker 9: because he was vibing, he was flowing, he was playing,

592
00:24:34,428 --> 00:24:37,028
Speaker 9: you know, his butt off. And this guy is the

593
00:24:37,028 --> 00:24:39,828
Speaker 9: most competitive person I know, you know, whether it's practice,

594
00:24:39,828 --> 00:24:43,868
Speaker 9: whether it's games, whether it's ping pong in the locker rooms,

595
00:24:43,908 --> 00:24:45,988
Speaker 9: whether it's golf, which you.

596
00:24:45,988 --> 00:24:49,148
Speaker 8: Have to see me on. We need that rematch.

597
00:24:50,028 --> 00:24:52,148
Speaker 9: This guy, you know, he's competitive and he just wants

598
00:24:52,348 --> 00:24:54,988
Speaker 9: to be fairly compensated. And I think he has a claim. Obviously,

599
00:24:55,028 --> 00:24:56,868
Speaker 9: the market's tough, so we'll see how it shakes out.

600
00:24:56,948 --> 00:24:58,708
Speaker 10: I think it's like you said, the market's tough, and

601
00:24:58,708 --> 00:25:00,748
Speaker 10: I also think it's availability. You know, he got hurt,

602
00:25:00,748 --> 00:25:03,068
Speaker 10: I think the last two years or last year, just

603
00:25:03,068 --> 00:25:05,028
Speaker 10: came back last year. So it's one of those things.

604
00:25:05,028 --> 00:25:06,908
Speaker 10: He just needs to show his value. Like you said,

605
00:25:06,908 --> 00:25:08,988
Speaker 10: the market is hard. I think there's some good running

606
00:25:08,988 --> 00:25:10,468
Speaker 10: backs out there that he needs to think about in

607
00:25:10,508 --> 00:25:12,508
Speaker 10: free agency if he doesn't make the decision that the

608
00:25:12,548 --> 00:25:15,188
Speaker 10: team wants to make, so some real decisions he needs

609
00:25:15,188 --> 00:25:16,748
Speaker 10: to make. I know the money's not where he wants

610
00:25:16,748 --> 00:25:19,108
Speaker 10: it to be, but you know, the market tells you

611
00:25:19,148 --> 00:25:19,668
Speaker 10: what you're worth.

612
00:25:19,908 --> 00:25:22,308
Speaker 3: Yeah, and unfortunately it has been a tough going for

613
00:25:22,388 --> 00:25:24,468
Speaker 3: running back. Salvin Cook is still out there. I was

614
00:25:24,468 --> 00:25:27,948
Speaker 3: looking at the numbers between Cook and Sake. One's slightly better,

615
00:25:27,988 --> 00:25:29,908
Speaker 3: but they're very comparable. I think Sake one had two

616
00:25:29,948 --> 00:25:32,588
Speaker 3: more touchdowns than Dalvin, and Dalvin's out there coming up.

617
00:25:32,628 --> 00:25:35,388
Speaker 3: It was a down year for Kyler Murray in twenty two,

618
00:25:35,428 --> 00:25:37,388
Speaker 3: but can he still find success in Arizona.

619
00:25:37,388 --> 00:25:38,388
Speaker 6: We got answers.

620
00:25:38,068 --> 00:25:52,148
Speaker 2: Next Good Morning.

621
00:25:54,228 --> 00:25:57,148
Speaker 3: Twenty two was a season full of downs and not

622
00:25:57,188 --> 00:25:59,628
Speaker 3: many up for Kyler Murray and the Arizona Cardinals, the

623
00:25:59,668 --> 00:26:02,268
Speaker 3: biggest blow coming in the form of a season ending

624
00:26:02,308 --> 00:26:05,868
Speaker 3: tourney cl in week fourteen. Kyler has been rehabbing and

625
00:26:05,868 --> 00:26:08,308
Speaker 3: he spoke about the injury for the first time on

626
00:26:08,348 --> 00:26:14,948
Speaker 3: the upcoming Flight Plan podcast. In that podcast, he said, quote,

627
00:26:14,988 --> 00:26:17,508
Speaker 3: it's got to be a positive. There really is no

628
00:26:17,628 --> 00:26:19,868
Speaker 3: option for it to be a negative. The whole last

629
00:26:19,988 --> 00:26:22,948
Speaker 3: year was and that's an expletive right there.

630
00:26:23,268 --> 00:26:24,908
Speaker 6: It happened for a reason.

631
00:26:25,228 --> 00:26:28,788
Speaker 3: The things we weren't doing weren't sustainable for success. It

632
00:26:28,908 --> 00:26:32,508
Speaker 3: was necessary and in turn, good will come out of

633
00:26:32,708 --> 00:26:37,548
Speaker 3: what happened. Murray sounds a beat motivated. He has to be,

634
00:26:37,548 --> 00:26:39,988
Speaker 3: because what other direction can you go in given the

635
00:26:40,028 --> 00:26:43,348
Speaker 3: track record, the team's track record, it's been a struggle

636
00:26:43,388 --> 00:26:46,788
Speaker 3: the last couple of years. Can Kyler Murray ultimately find

637
00:26:46,908 --> 00:26:50,468
Speaker 3: success in Arizona Julian, Yeah.

638
00:26:50,268 --> 00:26:53,508
Speaker 9: I think he can. I think he has to stay available. Obviously,

639
00:26:53,748 --> 00:26:56,388
Speaker 9: he has to limit his hits. I think he's a

640
00:26:56,428 --> 00:26:59,268
Speaker 9: guy who puts along on his body and adding hits

641
00:26:59,268 --> 00:27:02,748
Speaker 9: from guys the size of you is not something that's

642
00:27:02,788 --> 00:27:03,708
Speaker 9: advantageous for him.

643
00:27:03,868 --> 00:27:05,348
Speaker 8: So, yeah, he can find success.

644
00:27:05,468 --> 00:27:09,308
Speaker 9: You know, now, being in the NFC West with the Seahawks,

645
00:27:09,548 --> 00:27:12,148
Speaker 9: I wanted to have success up until when he says now,

646
00:27:12,188 --> 00:27:15,508
Speaker 9: I got to put that out specific that there's two

647
00:27:15,548 --> 00:27:18,028
Speaker 9: times in the year exactly right that we're trying to

648
00:27:18,068 --> 00:27:20,868
Speaker 9: limit his success everywhere possible. But like you see on

649
00:27:20,868 --> 00:27:23,748
Speaker 9: the tape, he his high end, his his his ceiling

650
00:27:23,948 --> 00:27:25,988
Speaker 9: is very high. When he's playing at.

651
00:27:25,948 --> 00:27:26,428
Speaker 4: A high level.

652
00:27:26,428 --> 00:27:29,668
Speaker 9: When he's efficient, this guy is lights out. And then yeah,

653
00:27:29,708 --> 00:27:33,388
Speaker 9: when he you know, has battles some adversity, uh, you know,

654
00:27:33,428 --> 00:27:35,068
Speaker 9: getting hit and trying to figure him out with his

655
00:27:35,068 --> 00:27:37,348
Speaker 9: team and the chemistry, obviously that's the low side of things.

656
00:27:37,388 --> 00:27:39,708
Speaker 8: And so I think he can find that successes here.

657
00:27:39,748 --> 00:27:42,268
Speaker 7: I say, for me, it's gonna be uphill ball caler.

658
00:27:42,588 --> 00:27:46,068
Speaker 7: The reality is he's He's super talented, but the questions

659
00:27:46,108 --> 00:27:48,508
Speaker 7: we've heard over the last year have been about is

660
00:27:48,548 --> 00:27:51,388
Speaker 7: he enough of a leader? Is he, you know, studying

661
00:27:51,428 --> 00:27:54,868
Speaker 7: the level? You heard one of his former teammates, Kelvin Beacham, said, Hey,

662
00:27:54,988 --> 00:27:56,508
Speaker 7: maybe he needs to grow up a little bit. And

663
00:27:56,508 --> 00:27:57,908
Speaker 7: I don't know if that's what I love to hear

664
00:27:57,948 --> 00:28:01,148
Speaker 7: about my my franchise quarterback. Who is you know, making

665
00:28:01,228 --> 00:28:03,988
Speaker 7: at the time the second most guaranteed money of any

666
00:28:03,988 --> 00:28:06,788
Speaker 7: other play in the league. And so I think that

667
00:28:06,868 --> 00:28:10,228
Speaker 7: this is a very important season in next two seasons

668
00:28:10,228 --> 00:28:12,788
Speaker 7: for Kyler Murray. When you look at what they paid him,

669
00:28:12,828 --> 00:28:14,988
Speaker 7: what they committed to him, It's hard to get somebody

670
00:28:15,028 --> 00:28:18,068
Speaker 7: to change after you've paid them right, And so.

671
00:28:18,948 --> 00:28:22,108
Speaker 5: Is he what he currently is good enough? Is he is?

672
00:28:22,188 --> 00:28:22,628
Speaker 2: Who is?

673
00:28:22,788 --> 00:28:25,748
Speaker 7: Like injuries aside? When he's on the field, He's got

674
00:28:25,788 --> 00:28:29,028
Speaker 7: to maximize his talent. But that talent is special. I

675
00:28:29,028 --> 00:28:31,628
Speaker 7: still remember the last time I saw Kyler Murray up close.

676
00:28:31,668 --> 00:28:33,748
Speaker 7: It was a Week one game in twenty twenty one.

677
00:28:33,788 --> 00:28:36,388
Speaker 7: He was playing the Tennessee Titans, and Titans were hyped

678
00:28:36,468 --> 00:28:39,188
Speaker 7: up that year. They were coming off of AFC Championship game.

679
00:28:39,188 --> 00:28:41,188
Speaker 7: They went and got Julio Jones. They were going to

680
00:28:41,268 --> 00:28:43,988
Speaker 7: be this team, and then Kyler Murray just turned into

681
00:28:44,148 --> 00:28:46,788
Speaker 7: him like he was the guy that you were like, Dude,

682
00:28:46,868 --> 00:28:49,628
Speaker 7: this guy's a video game type player. I remember looking

683
00:28:49,668 --> 00:28:51,268
Speaker 7: over to the left to the right. I'm like, did

684
00:28:51,308 --> 00:28:54,348
Speaker 7: Kyler just do something crazy again? He had five touchdowns

685
00:28:54,348 --> 00:28:56,948
Speaker 7: that day, over three hundred yards, showed just all the

686
00:28:56,948 --> 00:28:59,228
Speaker 7: talent that made him number one overall, and I'm like,

687
00:28:59,268 --> 00:29:00,988
Speaker 7: this guy is going to be an MVP. This year

688
00:29:01,228 --> 00:29:03,828
Speaker 7: started to tail off of the back end of the season,

689
00:29:03,988 --> 00:29:05,628
Speaker 7: and then it's twenty twenty two. He got hurt and

690
00:29:05,668 --> 00:29:07,708
Speaker 7: then some of those question marks came out, and so

691
00:29:07,988 --> 00:29:10,228
Speaker 7: talent is not. The question for me is can you

692
00:29:10,348 --> 00:29:12,468
Speaker 7: lift a team that right now is going through a

693
00:29:12,548 --> 00:29:15,588
Speaker 7: huge rebuild and be the franchise quarterback they paid you

694
00:29:15,628 --> 00:29:15,788
Speaker 7: to be?

695
00:29:15,868 --> 00:29:17,108
Speaker 10: Well, I think you guys are putting a lot on

696
00:29:17,108 --> 00:29:18,948
Speaker 10: his plate, you know, to say, can he be what

697
00:29:19,068 --> 00:29:21,148
Speaker 10: you just asked, the franchise quarterback? Well, first, he needs

698
00:29:21,188 --> 00:29:22,508
Speaker 10: to make sure you go out there and play right.

699
00:29:22,548 --> 00:29:23,788
Speaker 10: You know, a lot of the film we saw with

700
00:29:23,868 --> 00:29:26,708
Speaker 10: him stopping going making guys look silly. Can he do

701
00:29:26,748 --> 00:29:28,908
Speaker 10: that after coming out of a torn acl I don't know,

702
00:29:28,988 --> 00:29:30,548
Speaker 10: you know, and it's one of those things quarterback you

703
00:29:30,548 --> 00:29:32,788
Speaker 10: can't get to players come out, see how you feel

704
00:29:32,788 --> 00:29:34,068
Speaker 10: and get back in there. It's one of those things

705
00:29:34,108 --> 00:29:35,828
Speaker 10: you got to be in the game all day. And

706
00:29:35,868 --> 00:29:38,308
Speaker 10: you know, as defensive guys, if I see that quarterback

707
00:29:38,348 --> 00:29:40,068
Speaker 10: limp a little bit, oh, that's handoff all day. So

708
00:29:40,148 --> 00:29:42,428
Speaker 10: then everybody starts creeping up a little bit and starts

709
00:29:42,468 --> 00:29:44,588
Speaker 10: playing that run game a lot. So things have to

710
00:29:44,588 --> 00:29:46,988
Speaker 10: show a lot more. And you know, unfortunately he wasn't

711
00:29:46,988 --> 00:29:48,588
Speaker 10: able to show how much of a leader he could be.

712
00:29:48,828 --> 00:29:51,268
Speaker 10: Still having questions, but it's gonna be a lot harder

713
00:29:51,308 --> 00:29:53,908
Speaker 10: when he's out there trying to do things in his mind,

714
00:29:53,948 --> 00:29:55,788
Speaker 10: you know, because I had to torn excuse me, I

715
00:29:55,828 --> 00:29:57,628
Speaker 10: had a list frank injury in my foot, and the

716
00:29:57,628 --> 00:29:59,268
Speaker 10: first year you come back, it's just like can I

717
00:29:59,308 --> 00:29:59,548
Speaker 10: do it?

718
00:29:59,548 --> 00:30:00,188
Speaker 4: Do I feel good?

719
00:30:00,268 --> 00:30:02,268
Speaker 10: It's just, you know, it's just a lot of things

720
00:30:02,308 --> 00:30:04,228
Speaker 10: going in your head and it's gonna take some time

721
00:30:04,268 --> 00:30:05,468
Speaker 10: to get over that. And I just don't know if

722
00:30:05,508 --> 00:30:08,028
Speaker 10: he has a time to really answer all those questions

723
00:30:08,028 --> 00:30:10,108
Speaker 10: without just putting the foot on the tank or gas

724
00:30:10,108 --> 00:30:12,028
Speaker 10: and just going forward and seeing what happens.

725
00:30:12,148 --> 00:30:14,708
Speaker 3: It's really a twofold situation there because there's all the

726
00:30:14,748 --> 00:30:18,188
Speaker 3: things that you were talking about Kim and the criticism

727
00:30:18,388 --> 00:30:20,948
Speaker 3: he's gotten off the field and being leader, but now

728
00:30:21,108 --> 00:30:23,268
Speaker 3: you've got an injury that you have to come back

729
00:30:23,308 --> 00:30:25,748
Speaker 3: from that is not the easiest to come back from

730
00:30:25,788 --> 00:30:28,148
Speaker 3: in terms of the length of time it takes. There's

731
00:30:28,148 --> 00:30:30,948
Speaker 3: no real speeding that thing up. So he went out

732
00:30:31,028 --> 00:30:33,908
Speaker 3: Week fourteen with that ACL injury. We don't know exactly

733
00:30:33,948 --> 00:30:36,068
Speaker 3: where his timeline is in terms of being back.

734
00:30:36,108 --> 00:30:38,228
Speaker 6: We don't know when we'll see him.

735
00:30:38,708 --> 00:30:41,428
Speaker 3: I can tell you last year in Tampa, Chris Godwin,

736
00:30:41,988 --> 00:30:42,988
Speaker 3: I don't want to say rush.

737
00:30:42,828 --> 00:30:43,988
Speaker 6: Back, but they didn't know when he was going to back.

738
00:30:43,988 --> 00:30:44,988
Speaker 6: Gets back for week one.

739
00:30:44,988 --> 00:30:47,468
Speaker 3: But it wasn't until halfway through the season that he

740
00:30:47,668 --> 00:30:50,148
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, I'm finally feeling. Look, he could go

741
00:30:50,148 --> 00:30:51,468
Speaker 3: out there and he could be productive and he could

742
00:30:51,468 --> 00:30:53,188
Speaker 3: play an Jello's things. But it takes a while with

743
00:30:53,228 --> 00:30:56,148
Speaker 3: an ACL to feel one hundred percent. And now you're

744
00:30:56,268 --> 00:30:58,828
Speaker 3: a very special player that does very specific things and

745
00:30:58,868 --> 00:31:01,148
Speaker 3: you can do them with your legs, and it's very

746
00:31:01,228 --> 00:31:03,708
Speaker 3: unrealistic to expect when Kyler Murray gets back from his

747
00:31:03,748 --> 00:31:06,748
Speaker 3: acl whenever that moment is that he's going to be

748
00:31:06,748 --> 00:31:08,908
Speaker 3: the Kyler Murray we're used to seeing. So I think

749
00:31:08,948 --> 00:31:12,708
Speaker 3: it's a two pronged situation because then he also has

750
00:31:12,748 --> 00:31:15,708
Speaker 3: to answer to other things. And you brought up would

751
00:31:15,748 --> 00:31:16,948
Speaker 3: you say and said, I don't know if that's what

752
00:31:16,988 --> 00:31:18,868
Speaker 3: you want to hear about your quarterback in terms of

753
00:31:18,908 --> 00:31:19,388
Speaker 3: being a leader.

754
00:31:19,428 --> 00:31:23,148
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kelvin Beacham is offensive tackle. Former offense tackle essentially said, hey,

755
00:31:23,388 --> 00:31:25,028
Speaker 7: maybe he needs to grow up a little bit, right.

756
00:31:24,908 --> 00:31:26,028
Speaker 3: But here's the thing you said, I don't know if

757
00:31:26,028 --> 00:31:27,628
Speaker 3: you want to hear that about your quarterback. You're right,

758
00:31:28,148 --> 00:31:30,628
Speaker 3: But I think Kyler Murray has heard all of that.

759
00:31:30,828 --> 00:31:30,908
Speaker 4: Ye.

760
00:31:31,148 --> 00:31:33,028
Speaker 3: And if Kyler Murray is the competitor that I think

761
00:31:33,028 --> 00:31:36,348
Speaker 3: a lot of people think that he is, I would think,

762
00:31:36,428 --> 00:31:38,188
Speaker 3: you know, you talked about well, once you've already gotten

763
00:31:38,228 --> 00:31:40,108
Speaker 3: the contract, I would think that there's got to be

764
00:31:40,508 --> 00:31:43,828
Speaker 3: a fire burning to prove people wrong, to show them

765
00:31:43,828 --> 00:31:48,068
Speaker 3: that this is not who I am. He's taken criticism,

766
00:31:48,068 --> 00:31:50,068
Speaker 3: and so if I'm Kyler Murray right, he wants to

767
00:31:50,108 --> 00:31:51,868
Speaker 3: get back on the field, he wants to be healthy,

768
00:31:52,228 --> 00:31:54,948
Speaker 3: and I would feel like I want to prove people wrong,

769
00:31:55,068 --> 00:31:56,668
Speaker 3: and I think that the Cardinals have to hope that

770
00:31:56,668 --> 00:31:59,948
Speaker 3: that's the Kyler Murray they get. And to your point,

771
00:32:00,028 --> 00:32:02,548
Speaker 3: when I was doing sideline games and I would be like,

772
00:32:02,748 --> 00:32:04,308
Speaker 3: I mean as close as you can be without playing,

773
00:32:04,828 --> 00:32:06,988
Speaker 3: there was nobody that was more exciting for me to

774
00:32:07,068 --> 00:32:10,428
Speaker 3: watch up close with Kyler because it was like you

775
00:32:10,428 --> 00:32:12,388
Speaker 3: talked about Lamar Jackson, sort of do you can you

776
00:32:12,428 --> 00:32:14,388
Speaker 3: at one point, Kyler just does it.

777
00:32:14,388 --> 00:32:16,708
Speaker 6: It's like almost like a sleight of hand. He's doing

778
00:32:16,828 --> 00:32:18,268
Speaker 6: stuff with.

779
00:32:18,188 --> 00:32:21,588
Speaker 3: Such ease and you don't even realize what he just

780
00:32:21,668 --> 00:32:24,388
Speaker 3: did until like you catch up like a couple seconds later.

781
00:32:24,668 --> 00:32:27,188
Speaker 3: And so just up close and personal, he has been

782
00:32:27,428 --> 00:32:31,148
Speaker 3: my favorite quarterback to watch, like up close, the stuff

783
00:32:31,188 --> 00:32:33,868
Speaker 3: that he can pull out of nowhere and the way

784
00:32:33,908 --> 00:32:35,748
Speaker 3: he does it in such an effortless manner.

785
00:32:36,508 --> 00:32:38,228
Speaker 6: I do think the ACL.

786
00:32:37,828 --> 00:32:41,428
Speaker 3: Situation it changes what you can do, not not permanently,

787
00:32:41,828 --> 00:32:46,028
Speaker 3: but your return is not your self at one And

788
00:32:46,268 --> 00:32:47,908
Speaker 3: I can say that as someone who's also torn in

789
00:32:47,988 --> 00:32:51,388
Speaker 3: ACL and you you're just not totally back when.

790
00:32:51,268 --> 00:32:51,748
Speaker 6: You get back.

791
00:32:51,788 --> 00:32:53,988
Speaker 10: Well, my question is when did ACL start being four

792
00:32:54,028 --> 00:32:55,268
Speaker 10: or five months injuries?

793
00:32:55,348 --> 00:32:57,508
Speaker 6: You know there used to be a lot using yeah.

794
00:32:57,388 --> 00:32:59,708
Speaker 10: Year twelve, right, So using when a guy tends at

795
00:32:59,708 --> 00:33:01,748
Speaker 10: fourteen week fourteen, you're like, well, we're not going to

796
00:33:01,748 --> 00:33:03,588
Speaker 10: see him till week fourteen sixteen.

797
00:33:03,308 --> 00:33:05,428
Speaker 4: So not for another year.

798
00:33:05,508 --> 00:33:08,028
Speaker 10: So you know, when a guy like that, I just

799
00:33:08,228 --> 00:33:09,708
Speaker 10: you know, I know what he wants to do, what

800
00:33:09,748 --> 00:33:11,148
Speaker 10: you want to come out and do, But I just

801
00:33:11,388 --> 00:33:13,788
Speaker 10: don't understand when these injuries started getting so short be

802
00:33:13,828 --> 00:33:15,828
Speaker 10: where you got to go out there and yeah, it's

803
00:33:15,908 --> 00:33:16,468
Speaker 10: it's interesting.

804
00:33:16,588 --> 00:33:19,268
Speaker 9: Yeah, we understand like the physical of what he can do,

805
00:33:19,348 --> 00:33:21,228
Speaker 9: of what he needs to work through. I think you

806
00:33:21,268 --> 00:33:22,628
Speaker 9: kind of hit on the head a little bit with

807
00:33:22,708 --> 00:33:24,988
Speaker 9: the mental side of it. He's been facing the adversity.

808
00:33:25,028 --> 00:33:27,468
Speaker 9: People have been talking down on Kyler Murray for years

809
00:33:27,508 --> 00:33:29,628
Speaker 9: now for you know, his life off the field, and

810
00:33:29,788 --> 00:33:32,708
Speaker 9: he doesn't his spare time his leadership on the field.

811
00:33:32,908 --> 00:33:36,628
Speaker 9: I think that as a player, you have to attack

812
00:33:36,788 --> 00:33:40,548
Speaker 9: your mental game and really understand yourself. The low end

813
00:33:40,588 --> 00:33:43,468
Speaker 9: of that is he has that anxiety, he feels a

814
00:33:43,468 --> 00:33:46,788
Speaker 9: certain way he you know, he struggles with that or

815
00:33:46,868 --> 00:33:49,548
Speaker 9: lets the outside talk get to him. And the high

816
00:33:49,548 --> 00:33:51,668
Speaker 9: side of it is he puts that chip on his shoulder,

817
00:33:51,788 --> 00:33:54,868
Speaker 9: he battles back. He has good people in his circle

818
00:33:54,988 --> 00:33:58,308
Speaker 9: to help him in a tough time. You know, it's

819
00:33:58,348 --> 00:34:00,268
Speaker 9: a lonely time when you're coming from an injury, it's

820
00:34:00,428 --> 00:34:02,428
Speaker 9: extremely lonely. And so if he has that close circle

821
00:34:02,468 --> 00:34:04,348
Speaker 9: around him that can help him and push him forward,

822
00:34:04,428 --> 00:34:06,468
Speaker 9: I think he can be successful. And so I really

823
00:34:06,468 --> 00:34:09,188
Speaker 9: hope this offseason he's taken advantage of all his mental

824
00:34:09,188 --> 00:34:12,148
Speaker 9: tools and resources that his friends and the team has

825
00:34:12,148 --> 00:34:12,708
Speaker 9: provided him.

826
00:34:12,948 --> 00:34:13,828
Speaker 5: I think that's a great point.

827
00:34:13,908 --> 00:34:17,028
Speaker 7: Julian, Like when Sarah was mentioning the chip on the shoulder,

828
00:34:17,068 --> 00:34:19,628
Speaker 7: I'm like, I hope, so, man, Kyler's so exciting. I

829
00:34:19,628 --> 00:34:22,308
Speaker 7: hope he returns to being one of those top five

830
00:34:22,388 --> 00:34:24,668
Speaker 7: seven quarterbacks that he was, you know, a couple of

831
00:34:24,708 --> 00:34:27,508
Speaker 7: years ago, because the league is better because of it.

832
00:34:27,588 --> 00:34:30,388
Speaker 7: But I kind of wanted to turn it to you guys,

833
00:34:30,428 --> 00:34:32,548
Speaker 7: because you guys have been in the NFL locker rooms.

834
00:34:32,828 --> 00:34:36,028
Speaker 7: There's different leadership styles for quarterbacks, and there's no right

835
00:34:36,108 --> 00:34:39,228
Speaker 7: or wrong way. Right, Kyler has a different style. Right,

836
00:34:40,028 --> 00:34:42,868
Speaker 7: what have you seen from maybe your quarterback in the

837
00:34:42,868 --> 00:34:45,268
Speaker 7: locker room and what's your preferred style? How do you

838
00:34:45,268 --> 00:34:48,348
Speaker 7: deal with guys who maybe aren't as vocal or expressive.

839
00:34:48,588 --> 00:34:49,228
Speaker 4: I mean, for me.

840
00:34:49,348 --> 00:34:51,028
Speaker 10: You know when I've come from guys, when you have

841
00:34:51,068 --> 00:34:53,868
Speaker 10: Peyton Manning in your locker room, very vocal, very consistent,

842
00:34:54,068 --> 00:34:55,708
Speaker 10: tells you what he wants and you expects you to

843
00:34:55,708 --> 00:34:57,588
Speaker 10: get it done. And then I go to Jacksonville, you

844
00:34:57,588 --> 00:34:59,908
Speaker 10: have a Blake Bordo, somebody that's maybe just cool, laid back,

845
00:35:00,028 --> 00:35:02,108
Speaker 10: just wants to do his job, go out there. So

846
00:35:02,748 --> 00:35:04,788
Speaker 10: for me, it's not so much like to I'm Kevin

847
00:35:04,788 --> 00:35:06,988
Speaker 10: Beach on point. I know Kevin, great guy, but I

848
00:35:06,988 --> 00:35:08,508
Speaker 10: think you have to understand. First of all, he's probably

849
00:35:08,588 --> 00:35:11,388
Speaker 10: Kelvin about thirty five, four kids and stuff like that,

850
00:35:11,428 --> 00:35:13,388
Speaker 10: you know what I mean. Kyler's a young kid, you know.

851
00:35:13,428 --> 00:35:15,468
Speaker 10: I think it's just the age difference might be a thing.

852
00:35:15,588 --> 00:35:17,388
Speaker 10: But I think you just got to really look at

853
00:35:17,388 --> 00:35:19,308
Speaker 10: yourself as a player, right Your quarterback doesn't need to

854
00:35:19,308 --> 00:35:20,908
Speaker 10: be the one who run. I don't play offense, so

855
00:35:20,948 --> 00:35:22,868
Speaker 10: you know we have a linebacker, say, but as defense,

856
00:35:22,868 --> 00:35:24,388
Speaker 10: we understand how to get my job done, you know

857
00:35:24,428 --> 00:35:25,708
Speaker 10: what I mean, that's what I need to do. So

858
00:35:25,988 --> 00:35:28,348
Speaker 10: I don't think that's a specific way the quarterback needs

859
00:35:28,348 --> 00:35:29,588
Speaker 10: to be. He just needs to go out there and

860
00:35:29,628 --> 00:35:31,548
Speaker 10: do his job, and that's why I'm a little hesitant

861
00:35:31,588 --> 00:35:33,388
Speaker 10: on Kyler Murray because coming out there and you're the

862
00:35:33,388 --> 00:35:35,868
Speaker 10: one making plays and making people guess and extending plays

863
00:35:35,868 --> 00:35:37,628
Speaker 10: for a minute. Can you do that with the torny

864
00:35:37,628 --> 00:35:39,988
Speaker 10: Aco recovery, I don't know. And with the mental part,

865
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Speaker 10: I just don't know if he's gonna be able to.

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Speaker 10: You know, when you go home, you sit down, you

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Speaker 10: hear the noise. You know, we all try to block

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Speaker 10: it out.

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Speaker 4: You try not to watch.

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Speaker 6: Everyone says they block it out.

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Speaker 10: But now when you're sitting there at home and you're

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Speaker 10: reading it, you know what's going on. You're rubbing your knee.

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Speaker 10: It's like and you got to go do it fifteen

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Speaker 10: more times.

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Speaker 8: It's like, yeah, I've had three quarterbacks.

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Speaker 9: I've had Eli Manning, I have Daniel Jones, and I

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Speaker 9: had now Geno Smith.

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Speaker 8: Eli was very still.

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Speaker 9: He wasn't as vocal, but he was a guy who

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Speaker 9: led by example. He was the first one in, first

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Speaker 9: one out, and he passed it on the Daniel Jones.

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Speaker 9: Daniel Jones is the first one in, last one out.

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Speaker 9: So he's always in the building. Probably right now he's

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Speaker 9: in the building. And so that's how Daniel was. And

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Speaker 9: so you say, he might not be talking much, but

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Speaker 9: you see he's putting in the work. He cares about

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Speaker 9: what we're doing. And then Gino just has that swagger

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Speaker 9: and the confidence. He's talking in the locker room. He's

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Speaker 9: he's more vocal. He you know, everybody watched you know, Smith,

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Speaker 9: growing up, or at least I did, and.

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Speaker 6: Start your introduction to Gino that way.

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Speaker 3: I watched you growing up man like, and so everybody's

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Speaker 3: I've had three quarterbacks who have done it differently, but

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Speaker 3: all can present themselves as an effective leader just by

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Speaker 3: their side.