1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome to the Buck Saxon Show. We have 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: David Harsani with us now of The Federalist. He's a 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: phenomenal columnist and actually proofred my first ever attempt at 4 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: a column when I was a writer at The Blaze, 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Speaker 1: which he may not even remember now, but he was 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 1: very encouraging and very helpful. Mister HARSANYI good to have 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: you on the program, Sir, thanks for having me. Just 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: hit me how long I know you? What's that? Fifteen 9 00:00:26,480 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 1: years ago or something? Right? Yep, we're going I think 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: thirteen years. We've known each other for thirteen years, so 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: you and I go way back to the early days 12 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: of the of the Blaze phenomenon. Now tell me this, David, 13 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:45,159 Speaker 1: there's been there's all this back and forth. Now, when 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:49,160 Speaker 1: people see this or listen to this, we're both, they 15 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: will already know what the reality is of the Trump 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: showing up in New York City situation. As you and 17 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: I talk, we're not quite sure what that is going 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: to look like because we're we're recording in advance of it. 19 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Just everyone knows. But one part of it that has 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 1: already come out very clearly is if you talk about 21 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: Alvin Bragg as a Soros funded DA. They go back 22 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: and forth between one saying that that's not true, which 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: is really they're just lying, basically, but it comes to 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: a third party that put the money out there. But 25 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 1: put that aside. The other part of this is that 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: it is anti semitic to say that Soros is giving 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: money to people that he gave money to. Right, So 28 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 1: there's two two fast as this one is they say, well, 29 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: Soros doesn't actually back them because he gave seven million 30 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: to a pack and that pack only gave Alvin Brag 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: one million, right or whatever. Whatever. The number one, which 32 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: is a new, completely new standard, which you know, we 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 1: would we wouldn't be able to say that half the 34 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 1: people out there who are funding political causes are ending 35 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: them in that way because the money's laundered. It's not laundered, 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, it's it's given out 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,600 Speaker 1: by packs, not exactly by the individual. Soros even said 38 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: I never met him. Can you imagine if that was 39 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 1: the standard of saying someone back something someone you had 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: to see them, you know, give a bag of money 41 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: to the person in a picture, you know, shaking hands 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,440 Speaker 1: so on. So that's a ridiculous pot But the second 43 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: part is much more nefarious. It's that you cannot talk 44 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: about George Soros without being accused of being anti Semitic, 45 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 1: as if George Soros is a stand in for the 46 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: Jewish community in some way. Well, first of all, first 47 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 1: of all, he doesn't care about the Jewish community at all. 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: He's said in a sixty minutes interview years ago that 49 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: he doesn't really even identify as a Jewish person a 50 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: b He funds BDS through you know, his packs, which 51 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: is an anti Semitic organization. He doesn't care about Israel, 52 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: it doesn't care about Jews. He's a Leftist. That's his identity, 53 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: that's his religion. And but moreover, the idea that you 54 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: can't be critical of the time up benefactor for hard 55 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: left causes, the top benefactor of any political causes in America. 56 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: I think he dropped like one hundred and forty million 57 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: last year and off, you know, not even into presidential year. 58 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 1: It's very convenient and very ridiculous. I've always said it's 59 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: amazing how the left has plenty of billionaires, but their 60 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: billionaires are good people who we should all be thankful 61 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: or funding like media matters, and you know, funding these 62 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: trash political attack organizations all across the NGEO spectrum, and 63 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: you know and wacko environmentalists. But those billionaires, like billionaires 64 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: with a B bill with a big B, those are 65 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 1: the bad billionaires, right. But we hear so much about 66 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: the the Koch brothers, and not as much these days, 67 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: I guess. But you know, there's this pretense that the 68 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: billionaire class, their money all goes to conservative politics. This 69 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: is kind of like how they also tell everybody that 70 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: Wall Street is some Republican. These are just this is 71 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: just an untrue reality. That are you know, an untrue 72 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: perception that the Democrats have entirely manufactured. I mean like 73 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: Obama and Hillary and Biden got a fast majority of 74 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: Wall Street money. Yeah, but they say dark money, they 75 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,559 Speaker 1: mean dark money from Republicans. They would mean dark money 76 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: from the all the executives at all these sort of 77 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 1: investment firms that are I think poles show like ninety 78 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 1: percent of them give to Democrats, not to Republicans. I 79 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: should mention when Republicans had Sheldon Addolson, who was a 80 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: huge donor to like pro Israel politicians, The Washington Post 81 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: and New York times, they have no problem saying Sheldon 82 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:48,600 Speaker 1: Addolson backed candidate or cause, and no one accused them 83 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: of being anti Semitic for doing so, even though those 84 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: issues actually related to Jewish causes, if you know what 85 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 1: I mean. But of course, again everything's Calvin Ball, everything changes, 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: it all depends. But you hit on a very important point. 87 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 1: I think they don't. It's almost as if they don't 88 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: view their causes as political. It's just common sense. It's 89 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: just the right thing to do, you know. No, it's 90 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:13,239 Speaker 1: not let's not politicize this thing. You know, let's save 91 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: the environment, let's you know, stop guns, let you know, 92 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,480 Speaker 1: whatever their causes. They view it as just common sense 93 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 1: and not political, whereas what you want or I want 94 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: is politicizing its culture war, it's you know, it's all 95 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: these certain negative connotations to them. Do you think that 96 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: the journalists or whatever whatever we call people now who 97 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: write for these publications that are very clearly political, even 98 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: though they pretend to just be you know, the facts 99 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: in the news, do you think that when they deploy 100 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: the anti Semitic charge about whether it's Rond de Santist 101 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: talking about Soros back da it's fascinating Soros came up 102 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: with this whole plan that he has spoken about at 103 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: length in interviews, and there are financial records of him 104 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: realizing that there's this weak seem in them in a 105 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: sense where you can buy a DA's race with very 106 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: little money. Because who wants to buy a DA's race? 107 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: Was that was now people all know why, but that 108 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: was the thinking, right, and so he has this whole plan, 109 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: and now to talk about his plan, they say, oh, well, 110 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: that's that's anti semitic. And yet do you think the 111 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: people that are saying that, the different chattering class individuals 112 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: are saying that, do they know it's bad faith and 113 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: they just don't care, or do you think that they 114 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:31,840 Speaker 1: really believe at some like they've convinced themselves that in 115 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: this case, talking about objective reality just happens to be 116 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: anti semitic, would involve George Soros could be both. I'm 117 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: not sure. I'm sure that some of its cynical, but 118 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: you know, some of it maybe people have convinced themselves 119 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: that all, like, let me take a step back, why 120 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: would Ronda Santis, who is the governor of Florida, which 121 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,039 Speaker 1: has a large Jewish community, and he's been pro Israel, 122 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: pro Jewish, He's only had good things to say about 123 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 1: Jews and all that. Uh, start peddling anti Semitic dog whistles. 124 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: What what What would the point of it be in 125 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: their work? Mine, the point of it is that all 126 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: Republicans are basically just you know, Nazis underneath it all, 127 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: and they hate Jews underneath it all, and they're racists 128 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: and bigots. So he's appealing to that part of it. 129 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: So I think they've convinced themselves that, yes, Jews are 130 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: you know that Republicans hate Jews. They you know, they're 131 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: racist and all that, and that's why they do the 132 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: Jim Crow two point zero and all this other nonsense. 133 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: Some of them are cynical, but I think that many 134 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: of the rank and file actually believe that. They believe 135 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: they believe that about the their political opposition, And that's 136 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,600 Speaker 1: really a big problem in this country where we used 137 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: to sort of be able to disagree without thinking the 138 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: other side was evil or you know, was going to 139 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: commit transgenocide or hated Jews or all this other stuff 140 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: that doesn't really happen. But I think a lot of 141 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: people have convinced themselves of it. Probably David, we come 142 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: back you know we mentioned Ronda Santis. In a second, 143 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about the book banning story 144 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: that keeps I hear there's banning books. 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Well, 173 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: the last week or maybe a little before that, I 174 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: went to a Barnes and Noble and I, you know, 175 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: I see the book band book table where you can 176 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,000 Speaker 1: buy the books that are banned, right, and it hit 177 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: me that it's just a racket, you know, for the 178 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,719 Speaker 1: for booksellers, it's a racket like you know, Lord of 179 00:09:38,760 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: the Flies is banned or you know whatever book. And 180 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,240 Speaker 1: all these books are bestsellers, some of them are generational 181 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: best sellers, and it just gets people buying them probably, 182 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: and for the left politically, it's just a it's an 183 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: ideological racket. It's a it's a way to smear people. 184 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: Like after the Tennessee shooting. In Nashville shooting, I saw 185 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: a lot of leftists say they'll books in Tennessee, but 186 00:10:01,400 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: not you know, assault weapons. No book is banned. I 187 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 1: can buy any book I want. They are curated, as 188 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: leftist administrators have been doing forever. Just because my books 189 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 1: aren't in any school doesn't mean that they're banned. It 190 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: means that they're not appropriate for kids to be reading, 191 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: even though I think they are. But whatever, you know 192 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, so they're not banned by in 193 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: any sense of the word. In the same way you 194 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: can say gay in Florida without going to jail. You know, 195 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 1: you could say gay. You could buy any book you want. 196 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: There are laws that basically prohibit you know, obviously they're 197 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: over zealous administrators and teachers and parents and stuff sometimes, 198 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: but in general, you're trying to keep sexually you know, 199 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 1: explicit books or violence or things that you don't want 200 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: young people reading. And it seems perfectly reasonable to me 201 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: if you're going to be in a state run school. Again, 202 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: I'm asking. I guess they do a little bit of 203 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: on the spot psychology, but I just have to wonder 204 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 1: the people who are going around saying that these books 205 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 1: are banned, they have to know that that's a lie, 206 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: but they say it anyway. Is there just a cognitive 207 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: dissonance here like they you know, it's so easy, right, 208 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you were explaining how it actually works with curation. 209 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,560 Speaker 1: You know, when I was at my Jesuit high school, 210 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: they made a decision which I vehemently disagreed with. David Okay. 211 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: I thought it was really really unfair that Maxim Magazine 212 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: was not allowed in school during school hours. You know, 213 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,599 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, now I wasn't able to see 214 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: you know, Heidi Klume and Letitia Casta and some of 215 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: the greats of that era. As you may well recall, 216 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: I was not Now if I had gone outside the 217 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:49,080 Speaker 1: school and protested that there was an all out ban 218 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 1: on Maxim magazine, people would have said that I was 219 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: a clownish, you know, imbecile, because they're just saying you 220 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: can't read this during school hours in a Jesuit in 221 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: a Jesuit high school. So while I disagree with it, 222 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 1: I knew that it wasn't a ban. I just don't 223 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: believe that it's possible of these people who are talking 224 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: about the book band don't know that there's no ban. 225 00:12:09,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: So then are they just mouthing the propaganda because it's 226 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 1: an attack, and so it doesn't matter if the attack 227 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: is true. The point is ron de santist bad. I 228 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: think partly that's it, but partly these people have convinced 229 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 1: themselves that the state's not giving them something, it's being banned. 230 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: I give you an example. A few years ago, we 231 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: were debating birth control, and leftists would say the Republicans 232 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: want to ban birth control or Republicans want to ban 233 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 1: access to birth control, And what they meant was that 234 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: the taxpayers would no longer be buying birth control and 235 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: giving it to people, so to them the state, because 236 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: they view the state as the well spring of all 237 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 1: good things. If the state's not doing it, it's banning 238 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 1: it or taking it away from someone. It's the same way, 239 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,199 Speaker 1: for instance, when you let someone keep their own money 240 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: who makes a lot of money, you're taking it from 241 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: someone else. That's how this is how they see the world. 242 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: I don't mean again, I'm sure there are people are 243 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: very cynical about it. I think rank and file wise 244 00:13:06,640 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: they view the world that way because they just don't 245 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: understand how the world's supposed to work. I guess you know. 246 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: You're also what was the name of your very excellent 247 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: book again on firearms, David for everybody at home. First 248 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,199 Speaker 1: Freedom first, freedom right through. Yeah, no, go ahead, say 249 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: the whole title. That's what you're here, right through America's 250 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: history with the gun, kind of a cultural history. Yeah. 251 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: So it's interesting me because obviously there was just a 252 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: there was a mass shooting recently at a school, and 253 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: so now there's the whole gun control argument. It is 254 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: remarkable to me how few people I hear talking about 255 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: the the the problem that exists with the pistol brace. 256 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:52,559 Speaker 1: You know, you know about this, right, the pistol brace phenomenon, 257 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: where you have tens of millions of these things have 258 00:13:56,000 --> 00:14:00,320 Speaker 1: been sold and the ATF said they're fine, And now 259 00:14:00,360 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 1: they were invented, if I recall by a former marine, 260 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: I think it was so that people who had a 261 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: disability could shoot, you know, could shoot effectively even you know, 262 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: basically if they couldn't have a stock in their shoulder. 263 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: This allowed them to have a brace on their arm 264 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 1: and so they could still use say an AAR platform 265 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 1: something similar to that. As of May thirtieth or thirty first, 266 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: whatever the last day of May is. If you don't 267 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: register this thing or just give it up, you know, 268 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 1: get rid of it, destroy it, you're a felon. So 269 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: theoretically there will be at least hundreds of thousands, maybe 270 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: even a few million people that the Biden administration, by 271 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: the FIAT of a regulatory agency turns into a felon 272 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: just by doing what had been legal until the Biden 273 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: administration came along. I mean, to me, this is this 274 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 1: is a huge slap in the face to what law 275 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: is supposed to be. Yeah. I mean it's the same 276 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 1: guy who signs a piece of paper and says he's 277 00:14:56,840 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: going to break contracts of the people who bar or 278 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: money for school and not have to pay it back 279 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: because he says so, you know, he doesn't care. It's 280 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: you know, it's interesting with the guns because set aside 281 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: all the specific stuff, the stuff they want to ban, 282 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 1: I think it doesn't really matter to them. It's just incrementalism. 283 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: Like if it's a solid weapons, they'll go for that. 284 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: The braces, they'll go for that. You know, what was 285 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: there was something else they recently when you know, it's 286 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: just the aesthetics. They yeah, bump stocks, all right, so 287 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: like it. I think it's just moving forward. They know 288 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: that are fifteens are largely used, are rarely used in criminality. 289 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:37,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the vast majority of gun crimes are committed 290 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: with handguns of some sword. But these psychopaths who go 291 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: into schools, you know, they like the aesthetics. They think, 292 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: whatever it is, they use it. So they go after 293 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: this because there's an emotional component. All their arguments are 294 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 1: always emotional. There's never any reason to it. They constantly 295 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: want to ban things that would probably not have stopped 296 00:15:55,240 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: where most cases would not have stopped the mass shooting 297 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 1: that they're using again cynically to try to pass some 298 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: new law. I think I think an AAR fifteen band 299 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: would be on constitutional. At some point, someone's going to 300 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: take it to the Supreme Court. It is a gun 301 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:11,840 Speaker 1: in common use. It is not a more dangerous than 302 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 1: most other guns. Some of the biggest mass murders have 303 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: been occurred using you know, nine millimeters or whatever, and 304 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: it will be overturned, you know, and then they'll just 305 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: delegitimize the Supreme Court because it goes from one thing 306 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: to the next. It just you know, they're constantly Yeah. 307 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 1: I mean you mentioned the use of pistols and mass 308 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 1: shootings Virginia Tech, which for a while I believe was 309 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: the highest casualty school shooting of all time, pistols and 310 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 1: ford Hood, where I forget the full death count, but 311 00:16:39,160 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: it was very it was high obviously that shooting. It 312 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 1: by that, you know, self radicalized lunatic Alaki onwar Alaki disciple, 313 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: those use pistols. But so I wanted to pose this 314 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: to you. I mean, this is a theory I've talked 315 00:16:53,880 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: about on radio. I think now that there is really 316 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:02,000 Speaker 1: there are really two different two different views within the 317 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: Democrat Party about any kind of gun legislation. To your 318 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,880 Speaker 1: point about incrementalism. One is the people who are just 319 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: they've been you know, there's like a phobia indoctrination, right, 320 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: they've just been so terrified. Guns are so bad, guns 321 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 1: are so scary. So anything we can do against the 322 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 1: scary thing is good, irrespective of like all the existing 323 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: laws anything that's there. But I also think there's a 324 00:17:23,680 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 1: substantial portion for whom they know it will do nothing. 325 00:17:27,080 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 1: I think this would even be a majority of people 326 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: pushing legislation of the Democrat Party quite Honestly, that's really 327 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:33,640 Speaker 1: what I'm going after here. They know it won't save 328 00:17:33,680 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: any lives, they know it won't stop any violence, But 329 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 1: it is a thumb in the eye of predominantly, not entirely, 330 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 1: but predominantly you know, white male, Republican rural gun owners 331 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 1: who are gonna have to give this thing up or 332 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to wait five more days they're gonna 333 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: have to go through. They know that's all that it does, 334 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: and they're happy with that. Yeah. I think that most 335 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: of these law as they reel I love you know. 336 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 1: After the shooting, they were talking about permits, permits in Florida, right, like, 337 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: how can we have how could people be able to 338 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: have a loaded gun without a permit? What mass shooter 339 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: is like, Oh my god, I gotta go get a 340 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: permit before I go murder fifteen people like it is 341 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,440 Speaker 1: just it makes no sense. It is aimed at law 342 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: abiding citizens. Wait longer, don't be able. You know you're 343 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,400 Speaker 1: not able. They don't want you to sell a gun 344 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,760 Speaker 1: to your family, or give a gun to your family member, 345 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: or sell a gun to your friend. You know, that's 346 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 1: why they want universal background checks. They just want to 347 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: make it harder on regular people, like you say, who 348 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 1: own firearms in this country, and there are many of them. 349 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,280 Speaker 1: But I also want to just quickly mention one thing 350 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,480 Speaker 1: on the AAR fifteen band they keep. How can I 351 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 1: say this making the AR fifteen into this super weapon 352 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: that can kill tons of people, that blows up inside you, 353 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: you know, a kid when you shoot them, and stuff 354 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 1: like this. They are actually making the guns sound, you know, 355 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: like this super weapon and then they're then they're surprised 356 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: when a mass shooter gets an AAR fifteen. And don't 357 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: get me wrong, it's a good weapon. It's used for 358 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: self defense, it's easy to shoot all that. But you know, 359 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:07,479 Speaker 1: I just think that that maybe some of the you know, 360 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: maybe they should think about if they really cared, which 361 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:12,800 Speaker 1: sometimes I wonder they should think about what they're doing 362 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: when they mythologize or whatever. They kind of gun have 363 00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: you ever seen, I mean, this is one area where 364 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 1: to me, this is almost like the people who wear 365 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: I know, these different issues, but the people who insist 366 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,920 Speaker 1: on wearing masks alone in their car while driving that 367 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: I've never seen a rational defense of that of any kind. 368 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: I've literally never read or her or anyone say this 369 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: is going to stop you from getting a virus. I 370 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 1: have heard people say it's not about has nothing to 371 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,959 Speaker 1: do with the virus. It's showing a willingness to comply, 372 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: and it shows your desire to be a team player 373 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 1: in the face of the virus. Right, so it is, 374 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: which is basically a fancy way of saying it is 375 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:00,400 Speaker 1: straight up virtue signaling gun free zones. That are schools right, 376 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: gun free zones at all schools across the country. Is 377 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: there even a defense of this policy? I mean, it's 378 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,680 Speaker 1: your point about mass shooters or bad people. Bad people 379 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 1: criminals in general do not care that it is a 380 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: gun free zone. In fact, there's pretty ample evidence in 381 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: a lot of different cases. Got a point to the 382 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: specific ones that they'll choose gun free zones as places 383 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: to go because they know that they won't be challenged 384 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: with a firearm. Is there any serious defense of that 385 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:30,040 Speaker 1: policy that you can I'm asking you honestly that no 386 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: one answers me. I asked this question all the time. 387 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: What does a gun free zone do? It does nothing. 388 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: It disarms people could defend themselves. It has zero purpose 389 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 1: other than to let people know this is a soft target. 390 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: I think the Nashville I don't know for sure about this, 391 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: but I think that Nashville shooter or they say that 392 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 1: she had another target in mind, but you know it 393 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,919 Speaker 1: had an army. I've heard this too. It is unconfirmed. 394 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: Just to be clear, but there were early reports and 395 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 1: as you see this or listen to this episode the 396 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,919 Speaker 1: manifesto may have come out, we may know more. Just 397 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,000 Speaker 1: to be very clear, but there there were early reports 398 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: that she was going to a target a different school, 399 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: but that school had an armed resource officer and she 400 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: knew that because she actually surveiled the targets. Right. So 401 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: I get a lot of blowback when I say I 402 00:21:14,720 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: think teacher should be armed, or rather I think teachers 403 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,919 Speaker 1: should be able to arm themselves. I cannot think of 404 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,439 Speaker 1: a better use of the Second Amendment than saying to 405 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 1: a teacher, you get to defend these children yourself, this school, 406 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 1: in this community. But yet people go bananas over it, 407 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: like it's like it's radical and crazy to say this. 408 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: I just to me, arming schools, either with that or 409 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: hiring vets or whatever it is, arming a school makes 410 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:42,399 Speaker 1: all the sense in the world to me. Yeah, what again, 411 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,919 Speaker 1: Because you write and analyze in this realm a lot. 412 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:51,320 Speaker 1: What is the counter argument to the armed resource officer 413 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,360 Speaker 1: and or ability of not? You know, I don't want 414 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: a teacher with you know, horrible vision, no familiarity with 415 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 1: fine are armed, no interest in ever using a firem, 416 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: even in defense of himself or herself to carry obviously, right, 417 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,440 Speaker 1: But there are teachers who spend a lot of time 418 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: at the range. They are teachers who were themselves are 419 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: former law enforcement, former military. Like that exists as well, 420 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: you know, plenty of I'm sure there are plenty of 421 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: high school football coaches and plenty of people in the 422 00:22:18,080 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: you know, in the academic community. More broadly, who have 423 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 1: you know, for the former marines? Right, if they want 424 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: to carry on a school grounds, what is the counter argument? Yeah? Yeah, 425 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: I don't want to compel anyone, Like you said, I 426 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: don't want to compel people to have guns that should 427 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: be able to do to defend themselves. They always say 428 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: it's guns are the problem. There's already too many guns. 429 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: You know, you know, you know they will won't be trained, 430 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: So let's get them training. They you know they won't 431 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 1: be you know, how many lives will they really saved? 432 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:49,400 Speaker 1: I don't know, they don't have good arguments. They don't 433 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: even honestly, these people don't even want to debate. You're 434 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: I know it's Twitter or whatever, you're on social media. 435 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 1: You approach someone and you ask them a question, they 436 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: block you. You know what I mean. They don't want 437 00:22:58,840 --> 00:23:01,199 Speaker 1: to engage in any kind to debate because they have 438 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 1: a very emotion emotional argument. And listen, part of it 439 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:09,240 Speaker 1: is emotional. These these events are horrible, um, but they 440 00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: don't really give you straight answers to the questions you're asking. 441 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: They're very good questions. I wish someone would answer them. Yeah, 442 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: It just it just seems crazy that there can be 443 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: every time this sort of thing happens, there's this push 444 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: and and yet there's no foundation for the argument that's 445 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 1: being made, and they don't even try, and they don't care. 446 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 1: And if you won't go along, they just shout louder 447 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: at you. Now because I also think that ultimately, So 448 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: now I'm getting really and I'm doing a little bit 449 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: of like psychology at their side here, David. But you 450 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 1: can tell me, if you can tell me you think 451 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: this is a little bit little too much, I think, 452 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'll disagree with you obviously, because I think 453 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: that way. I think that they like to believe that 454 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: Republicans are so monstrous that they don't care about kids 455 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: being shot in schools. They'd rather take NRA money, whatever 456 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: that means. Like, I think that they like that narrative. 457 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: So that's part of what this is. It's just a 458 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: way of saying you're the evil, bad people, and the 459 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 1: argument about firearms and the Second Amendment is irrelevant. That's 460 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:15,879 Speaker 1: not it's what you're saying is not even debatable. Of 461 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: course they many of them. Yeah, I get like, uh, 462 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: you know, basically with great ease. They will say that 463 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:27,120 Speaker 1: n RAA is a terrorist organization. You care more about 464 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: guns than dead children. I mean I get this all 465 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: the time from people. You This is not some you 466 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: don't have to be a psychiatrist to delve deep in there. 467 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,360 Speaker 1: They say it m and then what they do, which 468 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,280 Speaker 1: bothers me. And the reason part of the reason I 469 00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 1: wrote that book was because then they wretch. They go 470 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: back and and write a new revisionist history of what 471 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,239 Speaker 1: the Second Amendment is, how guns were you know, how 472 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: many people had guns in this country and all that stuff. 473 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: It's just all made up. They're like, oh, well regulated, 474 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 1: well regulated, you know they're constantly pushing myths about guns. 475 00:24:57,440 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: If you don't like the Second Amendment, there's a way 476 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 1: to overturn if everyone agrees with you, which they always 477 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,639 Speaker 1: tell me everyone agrees with us about guns. Overturned the 478 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: Second Amendment. It can be done, and then you can 479 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: do what you like. But right now we do have one, 480 00:25:10,600 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 1: and you can't do what you want. You can't ban guns, 481 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 1: and that is the long game here for them. In 482 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: my opinion, We're gonna come back here at a second 483 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 1: day and talk about the realities that Donald Trump faces 484 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: here of the legal system being i think very openly 485 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: and obviously weaponized against him. We'll get back to that 486 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: in a moment. Born from the tragedy of nine to eleven, 487 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: the Tunnel of the Towers Foundation has been honoring America's 488 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,359 Speaker 1: heroes ever since. The foundation honors fallen and severely injured 489 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: heroes and their families with mortgage free homes. 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I'm reminded right now this moment in time 507 00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:38,680 Speaker 1: that during the Trump administration, it became standard among journalists 508 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: to say we effectively we are no longer journalists in 509 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: the sense of people that report and bring you facts. 510 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,199 Speaker 1: To be a journalists, to be anti Trump, because that 511 00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: is what the truth must be. Right. Remember, there were 512 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: variations on that argument. That was what twenty sixteen to 513 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,399 Speaker 1: twenty twenty, they were openly saying that the truth is 514 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: anti Trump, therefore you must be anti Trump to bring 515 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,360 Speaker 1: you the truth. Is this like, you know, the circular 516 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: argument that justified everything they wanted to do. I think 517 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 1: we're seeing something similar to that with prosecutors now in 518 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: the legal system. Yeah, it reminds me journalisms are good 519 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,160 Speaker 1: and not at analogy I think the whole anti Trump movement, 520 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: and again that doesn't mean you have to be pro Trump. 521 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,639 Speaker 1: I mean people who are willing to break every norm, 522 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: who don't care about, you know, the constitution, who don't 523 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: care about spreading misinformation about elections and conspiracy theories. To win, 524 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: they dropped all their supposed norms. They became worse than 525 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: Trump in every way imaginable to stop Trump. And part 526 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 1: of that is weaponizing the legal system going after a 527 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: president over a seven year year old campaign finance charge misdemeanor. 528 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 1: As far as I know right now, I haven't seen 529 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: exactly what the charges are, but that's what it seems 530 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: to be about, and then making the biggest deal imaginable, 531 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: imaginable out out of it. And I don't want to 532 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: be a conspiracy theorist myself, but sometimes I think they're 533 00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: trying to elevate him and make him more popular so 534 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: that he'll run for a present because they think they 535 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: can beat him over to Santis. I mean, that's sort 536 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: of what it looks like to me. I doubt people 537 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 1: are playing three D chess. Maybe it's all in my 538 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:19,720 Speaker 1: mind that usually is, but that's what they're doing effectively, right. 539 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: And the idea the gall to start talking about how 540 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,399 Speaker 1: no one's above the law after what we saw with 541 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton, who comey led off where there was just 542 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: a mountain of evidence showing she was guilty of felonies, 543 00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: not of misdemeanors, is just and others as well. It's 544 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: just a joke. And it also strikes me that the 545 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden phenomenon, it's so funny. You've probably seen this 546 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 1: a few times, right where people, you know, Democrats will 547 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 1: rush to the defense of Hunter Biden on somethings just 548 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: to say, you know, it's not a crime to take 549 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: money because people want to talk to your dad. And 550 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: then everyon poles on and say as well, smoking crack 551 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: and buying a handgun wire a crack user and taking 552 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 1: millions of dollars that you hide in LLCs and from 553 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: the Chinese and don't declare and don't pay taxes. Like 554 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of crimes that Hunderbiden one is committed 555 00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:18,920 Speaker 1: and we're just supposed to think like, no big deal, 556 00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: nothing's gonna happen. Also, and also, you know, sometimes corruption 557 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 1: isn't criminal, and there's plenty it looks like there's plenty 558 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 1: of corruption there. But yeah, you're right. But but do 559 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: you notice how they say, you know, they talk about 560 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels, is that her name? Yeah, you know, how 561 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:36,440 Speaker 1: she was given hush money. There's nothing illegal about signing, 562 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: you know, giving someone hush money. We many of us 563 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: worked in places where we're not allowed to talk about 564 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: what goes that we signed contracts. We are you know, 565 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: you can pay people for that if you want whatever. 566 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. But they create they frame 567 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: it as some kind something that is much worse than 568 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: it is now. I long before Trump have been against 569 00:29:54,880 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 1: these campaign finance laws completely because I think they undermine 570 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: the First Amendment in all kinds of ways. But this 571 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 1: basically is a is a bookkeeping a crime? Right, It's 572 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: a most people, that's it. This is another again another 573 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:13,280 Speaker 1: argument where I don't you know, I can sit here 574 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: and with Democrats, like we could. I could sit here 575 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 1: with a Democrat and we could argue over what the 576 00:30:19,400 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: capital gains tax rate should be, right, I mean, we could, 577 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: really we could have that debate. You know, why should 578 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: it be favored of it? But it's a there's real arguments. 579 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: I would have my side that I would think is correct, 580 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: But we're getting into this realm where they're not. You know, 581 00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:33,959 Speaker 1: on the on the gun free zone school thing, for example, 582 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:36,239 Speaker 1: there's no argument they're all for, no argument for that. 583 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:40,960 Speaker 1: And on this one, if Trump had done what they're 584 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: prosecuting him for not doing, which is if he had 585 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:51,320 Speaker 1: paid off Stormy Daniels with campaign funds, that would clearly 586 00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 1: be a criminal use of campaign funds, you know what 587 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: I mean. Like, so the thing that they're prosecuting him 588 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: for not doing is illegal the same way that the 589 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: thing that they're prosecuted, or rather that they would have 590 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: been able to prosecute him for for doing. He was 591 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: damned if he did, damned if he didn't, you see 592 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, it makes no sense that he 593 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: was supposed to report this as a campaign expense, because 594 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: if it was a campaign expense, he could have had 595 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 1: a fundraise. You've taken money from a fundraise your Trump, 596 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: you know, twenty Trump twenty sixteen for president and paid 597 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels ten million dollars with that money. Two things. 598 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 1: One is my problem with this, just as my problem 599 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: with the press going so hard after Trump all the time, 600 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: not the lies, just going after him hard, is that 601 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,480 Speaker 1: I'm not actually opposed to that. I'm not actually posed 602 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:43,520 Speaker 1: to going after a president on legal stuff. I'm a 603 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 1: post to only going after one president, only going after 604 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: one party all the time. I think all presidents basically 605 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: should be impeached, but they don't do that. They go 606 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: after the Republican like you know, That's what bothers me. 607 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:57,479 Speaker 1: But moreover, I just want to quickly say this, think 608 00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: about where this all started. It started with Trump is 609 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: a agent of Putin, who he's a trader, and we 610 00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 1: end up with a seven year old book keeping misdemeanor 611 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 1: against him, and they celebrate it like they've like they've 612 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,200 Speaker 1: uncovered water feet like this is Nixon, did you see? 613 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: I mean, CNN has footage of the plane landing and 614 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 1: the plane taking off, all of this. They need him 615 00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: so badly for ratings. It's not even funny, you know, 616 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they need him so bad. So I think 617 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: the same way that they often said that Trump supporters, 618 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: they always accuse Trump supporters of being in a cult. 619 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 1: And there are books, you know, a lot of books 620 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: You're the Trump cult and all this stuff. I actually 621 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: do believe that there is a cult of anti Trumpism, 622 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: as in that there are a lot of people for 623 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: whom everything that they know and have known their whole 624 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: adult lives about politics, about the law, about common sense, 625 00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: when it comes to this individual, somehow no longer no 626 00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 1: longer applies, right, like, like everything that we would you know, 627 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: it is impossible to make a good faith argument to 628 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 1: me that prosecuting a president under such a flimsy pretext 629 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: doesn't kick open Pandora's box in a massive way for 630 00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 1: a future. Nonsense like this, other prosecutors, other things. And 631 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 1: yet people that you would think are somewhat somewhat I 632 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: guess reasonable or serious and other issues are in favor 633 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 1: of this. They're like, yeah, go get him. Yeah, they 634 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 1: just I don't know what they say. I think they 635 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: don't care that that it'll be turned on them. And 636 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: this has gone on since Trump first began running. They 637 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: think they can do whatever they want, and when Republicans 638 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,760 Speaker 1: do it, they'll just pretend it's a you know, it's 639 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,959 Speaker 1: it's fascism. I'll give you an example, the laws passed 640 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: on the banned books and the stuff we were talking 641 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,720 Speaker 1: about in the schools. The left has you have used 642 00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: those laws and those that those powers forever. That's how 643 00:33:56,440 --> 00:34:01,040 Speaker 1: they set all kinds of school agendas. But when Republicans 644 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: do it, it's immediately fascism. This is how they work. 645 00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: So I think they don't see it that way. As 646 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: far as the cult stuff, a thousand percent, Like, first 647 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 1: of all, it's not as if people liberals ran around 648 00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: being critical of Barack Obama or run around being critical 649 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: of Joe Biden. They're in the same kind of cult 650 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: as Trump supporters are in. You know, maybe I think 651 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: maybe Trump is because of his personality, Garners more or 652 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: did more loyalty. But look now there's a big break 653 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,919 Speaker 1: within Republicans. Some support the Santists, some support Trump. That's 654 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,919 Speaker 1: a kind of thing that shows that it's not any 655 00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: kind of cult, like you know, I mean, to your point, 656 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:40,960 Speaker 1: Barack Obama won a Nobel Peace Prize for getting elected. 657 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: That's a real thing. Right exactly, which is embarrassing. And 658 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,760 Speaker 1: then the Nobel Committee should be embarrassed forever about although 659 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,960 Speaker 1: then again ara fat there's some there's some other bad 660 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 1: ones do Yeah, absolutely, But you know, for years Barack Obama, 661 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 1: there would be these you know stories where they put 662 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 1: halos or you know picture as they put halos around 663 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,800 Speaker 1: him and write about him as there was some messianic figure, 664 00:35:03,880 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: you know. So, I mean this happens with every president. 665 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: I don't like it. I don't like it at all. 666 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 1: But I think that within the Republican Party, like or 667 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 1: you know, I debate with like national conservative types all 668 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: the time. Like there there are debates on the right, 669 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:20,880 Speaker 1: there are very few of those on the left. The 670 00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: central mainstream left has moved to where the progressive left is. 671 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 1: They're they're just talking about how much money they want 672 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,840 Speaker 1: to spend. There's a little bit off, but their goals 673 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: are exactly the same. Take abortion. It began with the 674 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 1: you know, there was a moderate middle of the road 675 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: position in the Democratic Party. Now it's nine months. You know, 676 00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 1: do what you want whenever you want, and you can 677 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: go on and on issue after issues. So I don't 678 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:48,120 Speaker 1: buy their narrative. And again I'm not a Trump fan, 679 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: but they make people defend Trump because they act in 680 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: authoritarian ways to try to bring down this supposed, you know, dictator. 681 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,840 Speaker 1: He's not even president now, right, he's not doing anything 682 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: to anyone. He's running and they are still doing this stuff. 683 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: So we'll see how. You know, he's gonna be found innocent, 684 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: then then what are they going to say about about it? Right? 685 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: I mean, let's say he's found innocent of the charges. 686 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 1: Let's say he fights it. What are they going to say. 687 00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: We're gonna say, yeah, this is what the law. The law. 688 00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 1: Obviously you said follow the law. You said, no one's 689 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: above justice and he's innocent. Will they admit he's innocent? 690 00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,359 Speaker 1: Of course not. Yeah, it will never stop. And also 691 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 1: I think that, well, do you think that there will 692 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: be other prosecutions Georgia the Fed's Jack Smith, special counsel, 693 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:36,320 Speaker 1: what do you think? Yeah? I mean, if they're moving forward. 694 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:38,839 Speaker 1: And again I'm not saying there's some concerted effort here. 695 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 1: I don't know who Alvin Bragg speaks to or doesn't 696 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 1: speak to, or if he cares, but if they're going 697 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: after him on this, why wouldn't they go after him 698 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: on those Georgia charges, which I think are kind of 699 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: ridiculous as well. But yeah, they'll keep going after him. 700 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,959 Speaker 1: I mean, they impeached him twice. They'll keep going after 701 00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: him and after him. And if de Santis, let's say, 702 00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: somehow wins the nomination, they'll go after him the same way. 703 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 1: You already see articles saying how he's worse than Trump 704 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,280 Speaker 1: because he's smarter than Trump, because he's you know, smoother 705 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:09,040 Speaker 1: than he's more you know, he knows what he's doing, 706 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,359 Speaker 1: you know, with government better than Trump. I mean, so 707 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,520 Speaker 1: it's it's like how they used to hate, you know, 708 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,440 Speaker 1: they always hate the worst Republicans, always the newest one 709 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:20,919 Speaker 1: and the old one they'll give brudging respect to as 710 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: you move forward, you know, one day they'll be like, ah, yeah, 711 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: Trump wasn't that bad compared to that to Sciantists, you know, 712 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. That's what it seems like to me. 713 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: It's absolutely the case. Do you think that at some 714 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: level do Democrats recognize that the whole Joe Biden thing. 715 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: I mean, I would argue that Fetterman, who I know 716 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:41,799 Speaker 1: has just come out of the hospital. He says he's 717 00:37:41,800 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: been hospitalized for depression for I don't know, almost two 718 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,759 Speaker 1: months or something that when you put somebody who had 719 00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,360 Speaker 1: a stroke in a serious medical condition and clearly is 720 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: not medically capable of really doing any job that requires 721 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 1: intensive thought and serious consideration of complex issues, that if 722 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: they if they'll Federan forward, and they did, then it's 723 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: no problem to push Joe Biden forward for a second term. 724 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: Which is why I thought Biden is going to be 725 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: I thought the whole time he's going to be there, 726 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 1: their second term guy, and he's going to run for reelection. 727 00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,200 Speaker 1: But do you think at some level there's a recognition 728 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:19,080 Speaker 1: of just the absurdity of Joe Biden in his best 729 00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: days was a not a very bright guy, a not 730 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 1: a very nice guy, and not a very ethical guy. 731 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:27,520 Speaker 1: And now on top of that, he really is somebody 732 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,960 Speaker 1: who like needs round the clock hare in a seniors home. Yeah. 733 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,279 Speaker 1: I mean, if I think if there was some alternative 734 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: who they thought could win, they would move in that direction. 735 00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 1: But I don't think there is one right now for 736 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,960 Speaker 1: Democrats that I can think of, maybe Newsom, but I 737 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: don't I think they overestimate how that plays around the country. 738 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,160 Speaker 1: So Biden's the man, And yeah, I don't know I 739 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 1: think they must know, they must know that he's incompetent. 740 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 1: They must have known that he was a blowhard and 741 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: not very intelligent to begin you know. I just bring 742 00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,120 Speaker 1: it up because with a Trump thing. They hate Trump 743 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 1: so much. He's always part of me that wants to 744 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: point and be like and this, Joe Biden, this is 745 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 1: your answer, Like this is the best you guys can do. 746 00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: It really is kind of mind blowing, I think because 747 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 1: he exudes or or maybe he's thought of as a 748 00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 1: moderate sort of old timey because of how he you know, 749 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,080 Speaker 1: because he's old and all that. But honestly, he has 750 00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: no principles. There is literally and I've challenged people to 751 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 1: give me one issue where he's been consistent from beginning 752 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: to end in his career. What issue has he not 753 00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:32,440 Speaker 1: flipped onto wherever you know he thinks that you know 754 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: that will you know, we'll get him the most Jews 755 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:38,760 Speaker 1: for the squeezes. Yeah, totally exactly. So from a board, 756 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, he was like pro One day he said 757 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 1: he was for what was that an amendment called the 758 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,360 Speaker 1: High Amendment right during the election. There was some blowback 759 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: on Twitter. The next day comes out he says it's 760 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,920 Speaker 1: against the High Amendment. That's like forty five years of 761 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,840 Speaker 1: politics that he just threw in the garbage because he 762 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,799 Speaker 1: thought he needed to say something else. So but here's 763 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: the thing about him being old and every and I 764 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: get it, and every ones all over, you know, all 765 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:03,400 Speaker 1: over that. But here's the thing. I don't like to 766 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: give him a pass because he was terrible before this. 767 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: He was not right before, He was a liar before this, 768 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: he was a fabuloust from the beginning. So I can't 769 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: believe that a guy who was mentored by segregationist has 770 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: the goal to go out there and talk about civil 771 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,160 Speaker 1: rights movement like he does, or you know, who was 772 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: basically a social conservative gets to talk about Christians the 773 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,200 Speaker 1: way he does. But that's what politics is today. I 774 00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: think it's all about power and they don't really care 775 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,480 Speaker 1: who's there as long as they get to run the 776 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,399 Speaker 1: White House. David, where should folks go to follow you 777 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,840 Speaker 1: and read your latest columns? The Federalist dot Com is 778 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: where most of my stuff is, and they can follow 779 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 1: me on Twitter at David Harsani. Hopefully you know. I 780 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,520 Speaker 1: hate being on there, but I am on there. I mean, 781 00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: I'm I'm the same. It's a toxic place to do 782 00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: these days, right, David, a very good friend in colleague, 783 00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: a colleague of mine in the business once described David, 784 00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: I thought this is the greatest ryption, as gutsy in 785 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,399 Speaker 1: his writing, but not showy about it, which I thought 786 00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 1: you would appreciate. Not like trying to get, you know, 787 00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:13,719 Speaker 1: undue attention, just GUTSI and what he writes, David, thanks, yeah, yeah, 788 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: thanks so much for being with us. Man, appreciate it. 789 00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,480 Speaker 1: We'll see you soon anytime. Thank you.