WEBVTT - Twenty-Five Acts 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:04.359 Of the Law and Order franchises. SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.559 --> 0:00:07.160 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:08.039 vicious felonies. 0:00:08.039 --> 0:00:10.600 These episodes are based on These are our stories. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:27.520 Done done? 0:00:28.320 --> 0:00:33.040 Yay, that's messed up. An SVU podcast another episode. I 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:34.400 am Lisa Traeger. 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:38.800 And I'm Kara Klank, and you know, we talk SVU. 0:00:39.200 --> 0:00:44.159 We talk true crime, and then we interview a guest sometimes, 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:48.120 but first we catch up in chat. Lisa, what's going 0:00:48.159 --> 0:00:50.160 on with you? You're all over the place. 0:00:50.440 --> 0:00:54.200 Well huge morning plane. Jane did follow me back on Instagram. 0:00:54.320 --> 0:00:59.360 Thanks excuse me? Yeah, so that's pretty good. 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:02.800 I wonder maybe I can stalk her in New York 0:01:02.880 --> 0:01:06.080 and get my claws in her because I am so excited. 0:01:06.520 --> 0:01:07.240 Yeah, oh my god. 0:01:07.360 --> 0:01:11.119 Actually, as the release of this of this episode comes out, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:13.160 we will know who the new queen is. We don't 0:01:13.160 --> 0:01:14.880 because obviously we're in a bit of a time machine. 0:01:14.959 --> 0:01:17.080 When are we getting the reunion? Like I loved the 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:18.880 lip sync. I think we should talk about it. 0:01:19.120 --> 0:01:21.240 I think it was Friday. It was a lip sync 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.800 battle with all the eliminated queens. Oh, I didn't know that. 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:24.720 I haven't watched. 0:01:24.520 --> 0:01:27.360 Yet Oh okay, I thought it was that reunion. 0:01:27.760 --> 0:01:31.720 No, it was a lip sync battle. I kind of turnt. 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:35.240 It was awesome because you know, I don't love the 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:37.880 sit down reunion that much for drag Race. I certainly 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:40.880 do for Housewives, but for drag Race, I don't love 0:01:40.880 --> 0:01:41.360 it as much. 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.040 I do love it, but the lips. 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:47.960 What I love about it is like the Limited, you 0:01:48.000 --> 0:01:50.560 just get to see the Limited queens shine and give 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:55.120 them another chance to solidify their careers post show. So 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.000 I love that that outfits were fun, the vibe was fun, 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.840 and then I love the reunion no matter what. But 0:02:00.880 --> 0:02:02.280 I'm wondering if it's going to be one of those 0:02:02.320 --> 0:02:05.400 live finales where it's in then like at the theater 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.520 and it's the Queen's because that or what's gonna happen? 0:02:10.639 --> 0:02:12.040 Or do we not get a reunion anymore? 0:02:12.080 --> 0:02:15.760 Like I'm devastated, well, because why would it happen after 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:19.000 the finale? That's or maybe it will be after the finale. 0:02:19.600 --> 0:02:23.520 I'm pretty positive finale is the nineteenth, because I googled 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:25.920 it because my brother's coming to town, my brother who 0:02:26.000 --> 0:02:29.160 got me into drag Race, and we're planning to go 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.600 watch it at a bar somewhere, and so I've been 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:34.600 like texting around with people being like, where are you 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:37.960 watching finale? So I feel like it's definitely happening, But 0:02:38.000 --> 0:02:40.520 I don't know if there's going to be the same 0:02:40.680 --> 0:02:43.960 kind of sit down, spill the t vibe that they've had. 0:02:44.000 --> 0:02:46.120 Maybe they were like just replaced. I don't. 0:02:48.440 --> 0:02:51.840 Especially with playing Jane and all the drama that's been caused, 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:56.480 and like there's just been so much stuff. So I 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:59.400 definitely want to talk with the girls. I mean the 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:01.520 mandatory meeting, Like why would they miss out on that 0:03:01.600 --> 0:03:02.480 kind of opportunity? 0:03:02.840 --> 0:03:04.280 I know that's what I was gonna I was just 0:03:04.280 --> 0:03:08.480 about to say, a mandatory meeting. You're right, maybe they're 0:03:08.520 --> 0:03:10.160 gonna do it like the shit they do on the 0:03:10.200 --> 0:03:12.079 stage at the live shows where they kind of bring 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:14.239 out a little clumps through me so they talk. Yeah, 0:03:14.280 --> 0:03:15.799 maybe they're gonna do that. I bet they will. I 0:03:15.840 --> 0:03:17.960 bet they will. I'm just surprised because I usually know 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:19.720 a couple of people that go to the live and 0:03:19.800 --> 0:03:22.560 I maybe I'll just text my one friend who usually 0:03:22.639 --> 0:03:24.280 goes and be like, did that did it happen? Did 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:27.560 they already recorded at like the Ace Hotel? Because well, and. 0:03:27.480 --> 0:03:29.239 Then I felt like a fool because then I saw 0:03:29.240 --> 0:03:31.720 a post that said Rupaula is retiring, and then I 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:34.680 took a springshots to read it later and then and 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:38.120 then in Baltimore, I was talking to some Gaze about 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:40.240 it and they're like, god, you're so straight. 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:42.400 That was like from ten days ago, and I'm like, 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.520 I am. I want to let you know solidarity. I 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:47.360 fully fell into that. 0:03:47.400 --> 0:03:50.600 It was the fitness Gaze instagram that I follow and 0:03:50.720 --> 0:03:51.720 they said they they go. 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:53.800 It's a parody account. I go, yeah, I thought they 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:55.400 were reposting it. It's a big deal in the game. 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:56.920 He's retiring, Like. 0:03:56.960 --> 0:04:01.119 It's not crazy like ru Is, you know, running himself 0:04:01.240 --> 0:04:03.440 ragged with all of these things. So I don't think 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:07.200 it's crazy, like but I read it out loud to 0:04:07.280 --> 0:04:09.360 Jared and was like, oh my god, RuPaul stepping down. 0:04:09.400 --> 0:04:12.120 Like I fully fully walked into the trap. And I 0:04:12.200 --> 0:04:17.840 also remain a straight person that's been fooled. But I'm 0:04:17.839 --> 0:04:20.520 excited to watch it, especially with my bro show him 0:04:20.520 --> 0:04:24.840 the sort of fun la drag race bar scene. But anyway, 0:04:24.880 --> 0:04:28.240 I'm excited. Obviously, I was talking to my friend Jed, 0:04:28.680 --> 0:04:29.960 He's on team Nymphia. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:31.479 I'm Sephira. 0:04:31.839 --> 0:04:34.920 I think it's Sephia's to lose pretty much, but because 0:04:34.920 --> 0:04:36.640 I think they're gonna want to keep Jane for an 0:04:36.680 --> 0:04:39.720 All Stars obviously, you know they need another season of 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:40.800 her wreaking havoc. 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:46.520 Yeah, but you know they given't. I hashtagged playing Jane tonight, Listen. 0:04:46.640 --> 0:04:49.640 I was all team Saphira. She is credible and good 0:04:49.640 --> 0:04:53.920 at everything, but the one slip up just really it's 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.880 in my head. I think the twin challenge was a 0:04:56.920 --> 0:04:59.720 giant flop. She obviously had a pivot last minute, but like, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.000 I just can't see her the same and it's unfair 0:05:03.120 --> 0:05:05.880 because she is so good, but I just I can't 0:05:05.880 --> 0:05:08.240 look past that little blue underskirt, the puffy thing. 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:08.840 I just can't. 0:05:08.920 --> 0:05:11.320 We're also coming off of like a Sasha season where 0:05:11.360 --> 0:05:14.240 Sasha made zero mistakes, and so yeah, I can see 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.480 why there's a little bit of but. 0:05:16.839 --> 0:05:18.240 You're allowed to flop. 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:21.880 It was I couldn't look past the flop because plane 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:25.000 Jane also, you know, had a lip sync last week 0:05:25.080 --> 0:05:28.760 or two weeks ago and it did true. But I 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:32.360 just love her face and the episode you didn't see 0:05:32.400 --> 0:05:34.560 she's wearing a Google eye outfit, and I do love 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.320 Google eyes, so they're out. 0:05:36.680 --> 0:05:39.520 Famously gave one of our friend's kids a two pound 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:40.600 bag of googly eyes for. 0:05:40.560 --> 0:05:43.920 Their birthday, right, you I did a long time ago. Yeah, 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:47.279 I think this is like six years ago. I know 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.359 you love googly eyes. Well. 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.240 I also had one of my dreams come true where 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:54.960 I did get to tell on a child at an 0:05:55.040 --> 0:05:59.680 art museum that was touching the art. So it was 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:02.280 it was ridiculous. She kept touching the art and the 0:06:02.360 --> 0:06:05.159 dad was just kept being like, I mean, don't touch it, 0:06:05.320 --> 0:06:07.599 but like kept letting her touch everything. And I said 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:11.159 what the fuck twice to this family and they did nothing. 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:13.440 So I ran out and I said there's a kid 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.720 in there touching art, And boy did this. 0:06:15.760 --> 0:06:18.560 Man run fast and he caught her mid touch. 0:06:18.760 --> 0:06:23.400 And then the mom made a face of like what like, okay, relax, 0:06:23.480 --> 0:06:25.839 and it's like, are you out of your fucking mind? 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:27.880 Like I think I think if you're I think you should. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.440 Be kicked out of a museum. I do. I do. 0:06:30.560 --> 0:06:32.920 I think if you touch art you should be immediately 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:33.600 escorted out. 0:06:33.760 --> 0:06:34.880 Reason No, not cool. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:37.760 I mean there's reasons why I haven't brought my son 0:06:37.839 --> 0:06:39.000 to many art museums. 0:06:39.040 --> 0:06:40.200 You know he can't be. 0:06:40.160 --> 0:06:45.640 Trusted, but oh, absolutely not. I'm glad you fucking got 0:06:45.680 --> 0:06:48.000 it taken care of. I mean, I know this is 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.159 gonna be old news. We're in the fucking time machine, 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:54.680 but just let me have this. Taylor and Teresa Judais 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:58.680 side by side at Coachella. What is happening with life? 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.000 I know there was, but we're saying it's photoshop, and 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:04.320 I was like, I think, unfortunately it is real, because 0:07:04.400 --> 0:07:07.599 Louis had pictures of him clearly trying to take creepshots 0:07:07.600 --> 0:07:10.600 of Tailor and Travis like behind him, like acting like 0:07:10.600 --> 0:07:12.480 he was taking a selfie but holding it way too 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:14.360 high and trying to get them in photos. 0:07:15.240 --> 0:07:18.360 Yeah, there was a tweet that said, one day I'll 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.840 have to explain to my grandchildren why this is framed 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:25.960 in my home. And I loved that he also lifted her. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:27.880 I mean, it was a big day. It was a 0:07:27.880 --> 0:07:30.400 big day. She was drinking. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.200 I forgot it was Coachella until all those picks started 0:07:33.240 --> 0:07:33.840 pouring out. 0:07:34.040 --> 0:07:36.240 Yeah, it's fun and she's like a genius. She gets 0:07:36.280 --> 0:07:38.560 to just get drunk at Coachella with this hot ass 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:41.040 dude who's lifting her up. But also be promoting her 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:45.840 album all at the same time. It's magic. I'm lucky 0:07:45.880 --> 0:07:48.120 to be a part of it. I'm not a part 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:50.320 of it. I'm not a part of it. I'm glaring 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:51.400 at it on my phone. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:54.680 But I just saw an article that I almost sent 0:07:54.720 --> 0:07:57.840 to you but got distracted. Like New York magazine or 0:07:57.880 --> 0:08:01.520 somebody has an article that's like Taylor Swift, like broke 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:04.720 up our friendship or something. But I don't know really 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.680 the context of the article. It's just it was like 0:08:07.800 --> 0:08:10.920 about like someone as a swifty being friends with a 0:08:10.960 --> 0:08:14.400 not swiftye and it didn't go well. But obviously there's 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.280 underlying issues. It's not like Taylor broke up their friendship, 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.400 you know. But I'll send it to you. I'll find 0:08:20.440 --> 0:08:21.120 it and send it to you. 0:08:21.960 --> 0:08:25.360 Ending Okay, it was only posted five hours ago. You 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:26.760 really got your hands on it quick. 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:27.240 Yeah. 0:08:27.240 --> 0:08:30.280 Well, I actually I'm a new subscriber. I get the 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:32.400 print versions of New York Magazine sent to me and 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.520 the cut. Oh it's one of my I thought for 0:08:35.640 --> 0:08:38.680 New York. You know what, I miss magazines. I'm gonna 0:08:38.679 --> 0:08:39.360 be here a while. 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:41.880 A magazine's a great thing to like throw in your bag. 0:08:41.920 --> 0:08:44.560 For the subway too. You know, we're not We're not 0:08:44.600 --> 0:08:45.400 lugging around books. 0:08:45.440 --> 0:08:45.840 We're just not. 0:08:46.760 --> 0:08:46.800 No. 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.280 And the articles are long. I mean the articles are 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:53.280 long in there. These are investigative pieces. So okay, let's see. 0:08:53.360 --> 0:08:56.000 This is ending a friendship over Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift 0:08:56.040 --> 0:08:58.680 remains a constant source of comfort and understanding. My friend 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.280 has become a distant memory. 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:01.440 Okay. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.040 I mean like they intrigued me with the title because 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:05.200 I was like, what happened? 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.520 But then I didn't get to click yup. 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:12.480 Well, I mean I was sending one of our I 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.840 was sending a friend while talking to her multiple photos 0:09:16.840 --> 0:09:18.439 and she kept going, why are you doing this? And 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:19.600 I was like, oh, I thought I was trying to 0:09:19.600 --> 0:09:21.760 explain something to you. She goes, I got it. I'm like, god, 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:24.360 I got got it. I don't remember what I was 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:25.960 trying to prove to her. Oh, I just said, Oh, 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:27.960 it's exciting that she gets to be like in the 0:09:28.000 --> 0:09:31.240 crowd of Coachella, Like, as a super famous person, you 0:09:31.280 --> 0:09:33.240 would think you'd have to be side stage, and she 0:09:33.400 --> 0:09:34.080 was for some of it. 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.080 But and I also hate that. 0:09:36.120 --> 0:09:39.360 I'm like, oh, I'm just so happy that this billionaire 0:09:39.400 --> 0:09:40.120 found love. 0:09:40.160 --> 0:09:40.320 You know. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.800 But here we are, I mean, but I'm just like, 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:47.559 I'm happy that she gets to be in the crowd 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:49.200 and mostly left alone. 0:09:49.200 --> 0:09:50.959 But also we got the picks. 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.600 But the sushi restaurant she goes to is an omakase spot, 0:09:53.880 --> 0:09:56.040 and it is about four hundred dollars a person, even 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:58.000 though it isn't a strip mall in La over A. 0:09:59.320 --> 0:10:01.920 Yeah it's but it's like a FedEx strip mall place. 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:04.720 But it's been a celeb hot spot, I guess for 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:07.200 twenty years. I did read an investigative report on why 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:10.520 celebrities life to go there, Pulitzer. 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:11.800 Prize winning report, I'm sure. 0:10:12.320 --> 0:10:15.040 And she was wearing a skirt that only costs forty dollars, 0:10:15.080 --> 0:10:15.800 Like I like that. 0:10:16.280 --> 0:10:18.880 Yeah she I think she probably does a lot of 0:10:18.920 --> 0:10:20.520 mixing of high low, right. 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:23.000 Like that's her total thing. It's about relatability. 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:28.760 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the Gucci sneakers were definitely not forty dollars. 0:10:31.720 --> 0:10:33.880 But wait, really quickly, back to what you were saying 0:10:33.920 --> 0:10:36.000 about the kids touching the art. I have another kid 0:10:36.080 --> 0:10:39.000 thing I want to run by you. That happened to me. 0:10:39.600 --> 0:10:41.760 It didn't happen to me, it came into my life 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.240 in the past few days. So you know that we 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:48.240 belong to like a swim club in La okay, and 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:53.439 it's you've been it is. Look, I recognize my privilege 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.240 in being able to go to a pool, take my 0:10:55.280 --> 0:10:56.800 kids to a pool. It was important for me for 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.480 them to know how to swim. But it is not fancy, right, 0:10:59.559 --> 0:11:02.319 It is like kind of just whatever. There are no lifeguards. 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:06.040 It's like whatever, Okay, I don't think it's fancy. So 0:11:06.720 --> 0:11:09.280 it just popped like started popping off again because it's 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:12.640 like getting warm here in La. So we get an 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.240 email the other day that was like, hi, like, we 0:11:16.440 --> 0:11:19.800 just want to remind members that to uphold the elegance 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:23.760 and sophistication of the club, please do not change your 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.840 small children like on the pool deck, like change them 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:28.520 in and out of their clothes or their bathing suits. 0:11:28.559 --> 0:11:31.160 And I am super guilty of that, Like I do 0:11:31.240 --> 0:11:34.080 that every single time. My kids are not embarrassed of nudity. 0:11:34.200 --> 0:11:36.680 I don't really, I don't care. So I just changed. 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:38.760 It's not like I let them do a lap naked, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.880 but I take them out of their clothes really quickly 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:44.640 over like buy a lawn chair and then I put 0:11:44.640 --> 0:11:46.240 them their bathing suits on really quick, and then when 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.640 they get out, they're freezing and they're always like, give 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:50.240 me out, and so I just take their bathing suits 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:52.200 off really quick and put their clothes on. So now 0:11:52.200 --> 0:11:54.200 we've been told we're not supposed to be doing that. 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:58.640 And I wrote back and was just like okay, Like, 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:02.440 cause you've been there. The only bathroom is up in 0:12:02.600 --> 0:12:05.520 a in a main club area where you have to 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:07.480 be dry impossible with children. 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.079 You have to be dry to enter that area. 0:12:09.640 --> 0:12:13.000 Or you can go down these treacherous backsteps and they 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:14.480 are like treacherous, they are treach. 0:12:14.640 --> 0:12:17.200 You've seen them. Like you're talking to me like it's. 0:12:17.080 --> 0:12:19.040 Either I've been down there, and then if father was like, 0:12:19.080 --> 0:12:20.480 my daughter's in there, can you help her? 0:12:20.559 --> 0:12:22.120 And I'm like I guess. 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.800 Yes, Like and it's like if I go down there, 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:27.040 if I have my kids alone, you're telling me that 0:12:27.080 --> 0:12:29.120 in like a two hour period, I would be going 0:12:29.160 --> 0:12:31.160 down there once to get them in bathing suits, down 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:34.120 there for diaper changes, down there for bathroom changes, and 0:12:34.200 --> 0:12:36.400 down there for a swim change. Like I'm going up 0:12:36.480 --> 0:12:38.920 and down this set of stairs three to four to 0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.439 five times in a few hour period if I'm by myself, 0:12:41.679 --> 0:12:45.240 and I obviously took it to a Facebook group as 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.240 you know, as my want a new group. I've been 0:12:47.280 --> 0:12:50.480 added just to parents at this at this place, and 0:12:50.720 --> 0:12:54.400 I got it. I got a conversation started, like everybody 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:57.480 was like fuck that I'm not doing that. Like every 0:12:57.520 --> 0:12:59.440 I thought at people were gonna be like, yeah, it's weird, 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:02.800 like don't have kids out there naked, But uh, everybody 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:04.079 was like I'm doing this. 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:07.480 Like this is crazy. So what do you think? Well, 0:13:07.520 --> 0:13:08.320 I don't know because. 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:10.079 We went to the pool, and I guess it's kind 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:11.880 of the situation like I think we were the only 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:14.679 people doing that, But it's also not an issue to me. Yeah, 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:17.040 I do want to know the like what the elegance 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:18.760 they mean? Do they mean like we got we have 0:13:18.840 --> 0:13:21.400 pedophiles here, you got to be here? Like is that 0:13:21.440 --> 0:13:24.079 what they're saying what I'm saying, or is it like 0:13:24.280 --> 0:13:26.880 it's like these are children I don't know, or it's 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.080 like like who is uncomfortable by a naked kid? 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:30.440 Well? 0:13:30.440 --> 0:13:32.720 Did I talk on this podcast about the time that 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:35.080 I brought Rosie to that this kid's museum and she 0:13:35.160 --> 0:13:37.640 got her clothes wet and she was potty trained, and like, 0:13:37.679 --> 0:13:39.240 but I didn't have anything for her to wear. So 0:13:39.280 --> 0:13:41.480 she was wearing a super long T shirt covering her 0:13:41.880 --> 0:13:45.079 private area. And someone called the staff on me and 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:46.640 said I had to put a diaper on her, and 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:47.839 I was like, she's potty trained, I'm not going to 0:13:47.880 --> 0:13:50.080 put a diaper on her, and they were like, well, 0:13:50.320 --> 0:13:51.920 you just like she has to cover up. But I 0:13:51.960 --> 0:13:54.640 was like, I'm at a children's museum. Everybody here has 0:13:54.679 --> 0:13:57.440 a child with them, like someone has a problem with 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:00.880 of a giant, Like I'm so confused by this. This 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:04.320 is like this to me, it relates a little bit, yes, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.959 and it relates to like you shouldn't be wearing something 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:08.920 so short if you don't want guys to like comment 0:14:08.960 --> 0:14:10.800 on your you know what I mean. It's like, let's 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.800 not give pedophiles the temptation, Like what are we saying? 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.280 Like I don't I don't have a problem with nudity 0:14:16.360 --> 0:14:19.200 like at all, even like really for adults, I'm pretty open. 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:21.080 I used to walk around my New York apartment like 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.840 windows open, like I really don't care that much. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.080 But I'm just like, I don't know. 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.840 I'm curious if someone complained, like why they did it? 0:14:30.160 --> 0:14:30.960 What's going on? 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:34.400 Well, they say, also it's health stuff because they serve 0:14:34.440 --> 0:14:37.880 food out there. But it's like this was like Wednesday 0:14:37.920 --> 0:14:40.920 Thursday when everybody just started coming because it got like 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:41.600 nobody's eating. 0:14:41.640 --> 0:14:43.040 Do you think it's there because of you? 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:45.560 Oh no, no, not at all, not at all, not 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:47.080 at all, because a lot of people do this. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:47.880 I see it all the time. 0:14:47.920 --> 0:14:49.680 Wait, how did they respond to you once you wrote 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:50.040 the email? 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.120 I didn't write back saying fuck you, I'm gonna keep 0:14:52.160 --> 0:14:53.800 doing this. I was like, Okay, if you could like 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:57.280 put up some kind of curtain makeshift like changing area 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.360 on the upper area so that I don't have to 0:14:59.400 --> 0:15:02.560 go down into the depths of hell to change my children, 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.880 like that would be great. They're like, yeah, we have 0:15:04.960 --> 0:15:06.960 to follow like LA Health code. I don't know if 0:15:06.960 --> 0:15:08.640 we're gonna be able to do that. And I was 0:15:08.680 --> 0:15:12.360 like okay. I was like, it's just very difficult with children. 0:15:12.400 --> 0:15:14.880 Like they put in the email, we understand the difficulties 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:16.000 of raising young children. 0:15:16.320 --> 0:15:17.440 And someone in my and. 0:15:17.440 --> 0:15:19.880 The group was like, do you like you're asking us 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:22.720 to do this like thing, but your your physical space 0:15:22.840 --> 0:15:25.200 is not like designed for people with young children. 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:28.600 In mind sorely till I was a long time. 0:15:28.640 --> 0:15:31.280 It was just underwear and my sister in the Soviet Union, 0:15:31.400 --> 0:15:33.280 I mean, until she. 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:34.320 Got to America. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:37.400 Like, I don't know, I think it's it's not a 0:15:37.440 --> 0:15:39.120 worldwide global issue. 0:15:39.200 --> 0:15:41.560 It is. Yeah, it's pure If. 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:43.400 Somebody wrote next thing you that next thing, you know, 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.360 they're gonna say no breastfeeding, Like it's like what you know, 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.720 But I don't know, wanted to. 0:15:49.640 --> 0:15:50.520 Throw it out for you. 0:15:50.920 --> 0:15:53.000 Uh, I don't think they're gonna fucking do anything. And 0:15:53.040 --> 0:15:55.640 I also think, according to everybody that posted on this 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:58.320 post that I made, that popped everybody off. No one's 0:15:58.360 --> 0:16:01.000 going to stop doing what they're doing. Like everyone's gonna 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:04.840 keep doing it. So it's like be discreet, like don't 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.800 let your kid like just like run around fully naked. 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:10.640 I guess, like, oh wait, but I went to the 0:16:10.680 --> 0:16:15.320 Outsider Museum, the American Visionary Museum in Baltimore, and there 0:16:15.400 --> 0:16:18.360 was a flyer outside of an exhibit and it said 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.360 having children makes you no more a parent than having 0:16:21.440 --> 0:16:23.400 a piano makes you a pianist. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.240 Oh pretty good, look at that. Yeah you hear that, casey. 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:34.360 But yeah, So I took a photo of that, and 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:36.680 then I saw that fucking kid touching the art and 0:16:36.720 --> 0:16:38.760 I'm like, I hope they see this fucking banner too. 0:16:39.720 --> 0:16:41.120 Yeah. 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:45.640 Yeah, So anyway, just another day in like not being 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:49.320 able to, uh have my children naked anywhere I go, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:50.480 even though that's my goal. 0:16:51.280 --> 0:16:52.840 I think if we should be able to be naked, 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:54.560 but I guess we were the only ones, so it's like, 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:56.720 as no one else doing it, but then in this group, 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:58.360 it seems like everyone's doing it. 0:16:58.560 --> 0:17:00.080 Yeah, because I went to. 0:17:00.080 --> 0:17:02.600 The beach with one of her other friends and this 0:17:02.840 --> 0:17:06.280 was a big beach and her kids were fully naked 0:17:06.320 --> 0:17:09.240 and people were not into it because there are the 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.000 only ones. So it's like it's not a big deal. 0:17:13.200 --> 0:17:14.800 I think kids should be able to be naked, like 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:18.240 that's the point. Yeah, But because they're not, then your 0:17:18.359 --> 0:17:22.159 kids are the only naked kids right in a hundred 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:22.840 plus kids. 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.080 So that's why it's weird. 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.840 And obviously it's like I will take my child's lead 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:29.119 on this too, like in case anybody is like gonna 0:17:29.160 --> 0:17:32.000 you know, like if my kids suddenly are like no, no, no, 0:17:32.080 --> 0:17:34.439 I want privacy, Like they know about privacy from like 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:35.920 going to the bathroom and stuff like that like, if 0:17:35.920 --> 0:17:37.879 they suddenly don't want to be naked, I'm not gonna 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:40.520 like strip them naked. But why didn't they don't you know, 0:17:40.800 --> 0:17:42.960 like no, no, I'm not saying you, but like, you know, 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:45.399 just in general, it's like I think a lot of people, 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:48.280 like I've been with kids that are my daughter's friends 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.080 and their parents take me to the clubhouse because they're like, 0:17:50.119 --> 0:17:51.760 she doesn't really like to be like n and it's 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:54.560 like that's fine, great, like but mine don't care, so 0:17:54.600 --> 0:17:54.880 I don't. 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.560 Yeah, I don't know. I'd sick of weird. It's a 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:58.160 weird thing. 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:00.720 Well, my dad made me pee outside when I didn't 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:02.560 want to, and all of our friends that we were 0:18:02.560 --> 0:18:05.159 going to Disney with did see me, and it was humiliating. 0:18:05.280 --> 0:18:06.440 So not. 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:11.680 That was another part of the email was no letting 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:13.879 them pee in the bushes, And I was like, listen, 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:15.840 I go when I wrote, I go, I'm not talking 0:18:15.880 --> 0:18:17.840 about that part. That part I'm fine with. We're not 0:18:17.960 --> 0:18:19.600 we should not be letting them just like use the 0:18:19.600 --> 0:18:23.199 bathroom wherever, but like you know, at a you know, 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:23.960 at a property. 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.680 But yeah, I think it's just because there if it's 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:29.479 the only one, because if ever I'm thinking of like 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:32.439 the heckling thing where it's like, what, what's the big deal. 0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.320 I'm like, well, no one else is heckling, so clearly 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:38.000 this is an issue. Yeah, or like it's weird, but 0:18:38.200 --> 0:18:40.760 they're the weird ones because who cares. 0:18:41.200 --> 0:18:43.879 Yeah, thank you, thank you. I knew you'd be on 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:45.040 my side on this. It is. 0:18:45.080 --> 0:18:47.640 It's not a sciatal thing. It's like a big oh 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:49.600 my god, it's so funny. I was getting a facial 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:56.320 and like we were vibing, but then me too came 0:18:56.400 --> 0:18:59.320 up and then it was like, oh great, Oh no. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:01.880 She's like, I don't know, you're an adult, you can leave, 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.000 and I was like, yeah, I just think it's a 0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:07.840 little more complicated than that. I know. 0:19:07.920 --> 0:19:10.240 It's like, well, you're having a great conversation with somebody 0:19:10.240 --> 0:19:12.040 and then they just like bring up the most terrible 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:14.000 stand up comedian and they're like I love them. 0:19:14.119 --> 0:19:17.000 You know, You're like, no, we were doing good. Well. 0:19:17.240 --> 0:19:20.359 So my train to Baltimore was delayed I think like 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:23.119 two and a half extra hours, and so I was 0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:25.639 on there for a while. There was i would say, 0:19:25.680 --> 0:19:28.000 a child like a freshman in college next to me 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:31.600 watching clips of Michael cha and so I thought it 0:19:31.640 --> 0:19:35.520 was funny. But then I saw Ben Shapiro came up 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.160 in his Explorer page and I'm like, you better ignore that, bitch. 0:19:39.760 --> 0:19:42.280 But he was watching golf, and I'm sorry, Like golf 0:19:42.320 --> 0:19:44.199 did not have this kind of a moment ever in 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.720 my life. Like, I don't understand how golf has a 0:19:46.800 --> 0:19:50.280 choke hold right now on everybody, even in the stores. Like, 0:19:51.200 --> 0:19:54.240 if you're watching golf, you're a young teen. What is 0:19:54.320 --> 0:19:54.920 going on? 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.240 My brother is my brother David has always been super 0:19:58.280 --> 0:19:58.800 into golf. 0:19:58.840 --> 0:19:59.879 I don't know what it is. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.800 I don't know how does he feel he knows there's 0:20:01.800 --> 0:20:03.840 been an explosion right, like there's got to. 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:05.280 Be or he's just always been into it. 0:20:05.359 --> 0:20:08.280 Well he's always been into it, like because he's always 0:20:08.280 --> 0:20:09.720 been into it. He was a caddie when he was 0:20:09.760 --> 0:20:11.080 a teen, and like he loves it. 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:13.560 No, I know, but how does does he realize that 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:14.359 it's the current? 0:20:15.359 --> 0:20:17.280 Do you feel like that's total or do you think 0:20:17.280 --> 0:20:19.680 it's just because the masters is happening right now or like. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.000 WHOA, I think pandemic because it was an outdoor activity 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.199 and I think that, but it's kind of like I 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:27.720 was talking to a group once and I was like, 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:29.800 oh my god, everyone's skiing and they're like, no one 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:31.720 is skiing in my feed, and so it's like, oh, 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:35.040 I might know people that are doing something different in 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.439 skiing and it's not universal. But I feel like golf 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:41.560 is everywhere, like the outfits every like it just seems 0:20:41.600 --> 0:20:43.639 more popular than ever before. 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:45.200 And also because. 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.520 Now your algorithm knows that you like sports, so they're 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.440 seeing how many sports they can get you into. 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:53.520 Before even comics, comics are golfing now, like people are 0:20:53.560 --> 0:20:56.600 golfing that I would never have expected our golfing. 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.800 There's golf podcasts with young comedians. Last year I went 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:02.600 to when we went to Moontower, I did the golfing competition. 0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:06.800 I don't know how to golf. Yeah, so yeah, it's 0:21:06.800 --> 0:21:08.440 popping off. Golf is having a moment. 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:10.720 But I don't know if it's a scheme thing where 0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:13.879 it's just in my world. But like, I just never 0:21:14.000 --> 0:21:18.240 felt like comics were out there golfing on their free time. 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.280 Like I know someone that is selling their house right now, 0:21:21.320 --> 0:21:23.639 Like my sister knows them to move to a different 0:21:23.680 --> 0:21:26.359 house to be closer to the golf course. I know 0:21:26.480 --> 0:21:28.879 another family that's moving to a different town to be 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.720 next to a better golf course. These are good, Yes, 0:21:32.680 --> 0:21:35.880 I like, and it's new to me. I understand moving 0:21:35.960 --> 0:21:37.920 for a school district I've never heard of. I'm not 0:21:38.160 --> 0:21:40.440 for golf courses and I. 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:41.000 Just don't like it. 0:21:41.000 --> 0:21:44.120 And the Masters just came out and said they're including 0:21:44.119 --> 0:21:46.879 women would take away the magic and majestic nature of 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:52.560 the tournament. So God, and the country club that was 0:21:52.640 --> 0:21:54.639 near my house obviously didn't allow Jews. 0:21:54.880 --> 0:21:58.160 But well, I think I've talked to you about this. 0:21:58.320 --> 0:22:00.440 How my dad drove me to a bird they party 0:22:00.480 --> 0:22:01.960 at the country club in my town when I was 0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:03.600 in fifth grade, and the whole way there told me 0:22:03.600 --> 0:22:05.520 about how they don't accept Jews and to not not 0:22:05.560 --> 0:22:07.760 bring it up that I'm Jewish. So I spent the 0:22:07.880 --> 0:22:11.800 entire party being like, Hi, like totally freaking out because 0:22:11.800 --> 0:22:13.359 I was like eleven, and I was like, are they 0:22:13.359 --> 0:22:14.960 going to find out and make me leave? 0:22:15.119 --> 0:22:16.119 Like it was? 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:18.879 But you know, that's just my dad being stupid. But 0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:23.000 I wanted to point out if anybody is interested while 0:22:23.000 --> 0:22:24.640 we're a golf club. 0:22:25.160 --> 0:22:27.160 No, if anybody wants to come to a golf no. 0:22:28.840 --> 0:22:32.359 Revisionist history Malcolm Gladwell's podcast, which I think I've mentioned before, 0:22:32.560 --> 0:22:35.480 has an amazing episode that I believe is called a 0:22:35.520 --> 0:22:38.359 Good Walk Spoiled. It's from many seasons ago on his 0:22:38.440 --> 0:22:41.600 podcasts because I've kind of fallen off of it, But 0:22:41.680 --> 0:22:45.000 it's about golf courses and how they fucking take up 0:22:45.040 --> 0:22:48.119 all this beautiful land in cities. They pay no taxes 0:22:48.400 --> 0:22:51.640 because they figured out loopholes where country clubs can say 0:22:51.640 --> 0:22:54.320 that their members are their owners instead of them actually 0:22:54.359 --> 0:22:57.240 having an owner, and so they end up not having 0:22:57.280 --> 0:23:00.720 to pay any taxes because that would be like it's crazy. 0:23:00.760 --> 0:23:03.520 And in Canada, a lot of the golf courses, like 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.240 in Toronto and stuff will be open to the public 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.080 during the week and then for members only on the 0:23:08.080 --> 0:23:10.720 weekends and so, but we don't do that in the States. 0:23:10.800 --> 0:23:14.400 And like in l A specifically, it's like there's these 0:23:14.480 --> 0:23:16.720 massive like people are living on the streets and then 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.360 there's these massive golf courses where no one's paying taxes. 0:23:20.400 --> 0:23:24.080 So it's fucked up. Listened to a good asses. These 0:23:24.160 --> 0:23:26.680 rich people I mean watching all want to get mad 0:23:26.680 --> 0:23:28.600 about golf. There's so much more to get mad about, 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:31.359 like well seeing succession. 0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:35.600 I'm just like Wow, these rich people just know how 0:23:35.640 --> 0:23:38.200 not to pay taxes and it's over. 0:23:38.359 --> 0:23:39.159 It's incredible. 0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:43.399 It's truly incredible, the thirst for evil and power. 0:23:43.520 --> 0:23:46.360 But you know, from the beginning of time. 0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:51.040 As always, our intro is veering into a bright, happy, funny. 0:23:50.760 --> 0:23:53.680 Noes Caine killed Abel for what a horse or something 0:23:53.960 --> 0:23:55.280 like shit happens? 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:56.800 Oh God? 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:00.560 All right, Well I did talk about this on my story. 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.480 I know Casey is mad. Do not shake your head. 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:04.480 I think you're gonna laugh. I think you're gonna laugh. Okay, 0:24:05.040 --> 0:24:08.480 So yesterday I got in I'm leaving town again tomorrow, 0:24:08.640 --> 0:24:12.120 so I filled. I have a giant laundry backpack. It's 0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.320 filled to the brim. Then I took all the sheets 0:24:14.320 --> 0:24:16.199 and towels in a garbage bag. And then I had 0:24:16.200 --> 0:24:18.640 two dresses for dry cleaning. So I'm holding it all. 0:24:18.680 --> 0:24:21.760 I'm walking And then but before I left, I go, oh, 0:24:21.760 --> 0:24:23.600 I should put in the underwear I'm wearing now, Like, 0:24:23.640 --> 0:24:26.280 what's the point of having extra like dirty underwear? So 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:28.920 I put that in the bag. So I'm walking down. 0:24:28.960 --> 0:24:31.600 I'm walking down. Something feels not right. My ass was 0:24:31.600 --> 0:24:35.320 fully out the whole walk. No, the backpack pulled my 0:24:35.400 --> 0:24:38.399 dress up I did not notice, and I like it 0:24:38.440 --> 0:24:40.640 took me probably half a block to be like, oh, 0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:42.600 my asses fully out. 0:24:42.760 --> 0:24:44.320 People were sitting on my stoop. 0:24:44.480 --> 0:24:47.960 They definitely saw my ass like I, but no one 0:24:48.000 --> 0:24:50.159 helped me. And I feel like that is not the 0:24:50.160 --> 0:24:53.120 community that I want to be a part of, Like, fucking. 0:24:52.800 --> 0:24:53.920 Tell me my ass is out. 0:24:55.160 --> 0:24:57.439 But also I had to stop wearing short dresses with 0:24:57.480 --> 0:25:01.120 no underwear like that is for some reason, I keep 0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:04.680 doing that, but the butt has never been out. I 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:06.560 think it's because I'm not thinking. When I'm doing laundry. 0:25:06.560 --> 0:25:08.320 It's like, oh, yeah, kay, take the underwear off whatever, 0:25:08.359 --> 0:25:11.000 put something on. Yeah, and it's like you need a length, 0:25:11.119 --> 0:25:13.159 you need a little bit of length. Okay, Well Casey 0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.800 did not lappy put his camera off, So. 0:25:16.080 --> 0:25:18.720 Casey turned his camera off for the underwear story. 0:25:19.240 --> 0:25:22.280 I've definitely helped a girl before and said, girl, your 0:25:22.400 --> 0:25:24.320 dress is like caught into the back of your purse 0:25:24.400 --> 0:25:27.040 or like whatever, you know, like you gotta we got 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:30.400 to help each other out here. People come on, Yeah, 0:25:30.520 --> 0:25:34.080 the world is ending, we need help. But let's pop 0:25:34.119 --> 0:25:36.520 into this episode because this is one people have been 0:25:36.520 --> 0:25:37.480 asking for forever. 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:38.760 We've been dying to do it. 0:25:38.880 --> 0:25:46.840 And here we go, Okay, twenty five acts. We're getting 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:50.640 into season fourteen, and this is episode three. So if 0:25:50.680 --> 0:25:54.880 you'll recall, this is coming right off of two episodes 0:25:54.920 --> 0:25:59.480 that we've covered with Paget Brewster and the whole culminamination 0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.239 of a really a three episode arc that started at 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:04.840 the very end of season thirteen went into fourteen about 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:09.840 Carissa Gibson, Bart, Gonzel, d'liah Wilson, the whole this huge 0:26:10.080 --> 0:26:14.680 NYPD scandal that's uncovered where all these prosecute all these 0:26:14.680 --> 0:26:17.639 like das and judges and high level like politicians and 0:26:17.640 --> 0:26:21.480 shit are all implicated in this prostitution ring and other 0:26:22.119 --> 0:26:25.080 bad acts. And not that prostitution is a bad act, 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:27.200 but you know what I'm saying, like they all these 0:26:27.240 --> 0:26:29.320 guys are, all these men and women that are doing 0:26:29.320 --> 0:26:32.280 this are corrupt, and the NYPD's kind of just been 0:26:32.320 --> 0:26:36.199 broken open. And Craigan is still out because you know, 0:26:36.240 --> 0:26:37.960 they had to clear him from waking up in the 0:26:37.960 --> 0:26:40.119 bed with a dead sex worker and you know, so 0:26:40.320 --> 0:26:44.240 that takes a minute of bureaucracy, I think. So as 0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:47.560 Finn and Benson are strolling into the squad room, Benson's 0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:50.480 mentioning that there's been sixteen murders over fourth of July, 0:26:50.920 --> 0:26:53.440 and Finn's like, you cut back the stop and searches 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.960 and people start carrying, and I'm like, not Finn being 0:26:56.040 --> 0:26:57.240 pro stop and frisk. 0:26:58.240 --> 0:26:59.800 I don't like that one bit. 0:27:00.200 --> 0:27:02.720 Not a great start to that episode of just Finn 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.480 being like, Yep, you gotta frisk people randomly it works, 0:27:05.560 --> 0:27:07.119 because I think it's been proven that it does not. 0:27:07.680 --> 0:27:09.480 And Munch is like, it could also be the heat 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.959 wave we've had twenty days in a row over ninety degrees. 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.880 Wow, it would work if they stopped and frisk the whites. 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:17.560 Yeah, you know, because it seems like the whites. 0:27:17.320 --> 0:27:19.600 Are out there shooting at a lot of places. 0:27:19.720 --> 0:27:22.280 Yeah, yeah, the whites are at the top of the 0:27:22.320 --> 0:27:23.280 mass shooter roster. 0:27:23.600 --> 0:27:24.280 Absolutely. 0:27:24.480 --> 0:27:27.000 Yeah, So maybe stop and frisk would work if they 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.080 targeted a different demographic. 0:27:30.240 --> 0:27:31.440 Just the thought, just the thought. 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:35.199 Yeah, but I have read before that crime rates do 0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:38.120 rise in hot temperatures, that summer always has more crimes, 0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:39.359 like and I think that's been proven. 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:40.080 I did a quick. 0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:43.280 Google and it does seem started by studies. Although I 0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.040 guess you could also say correlation doesn't equal causation. But 0:27:46.280 --> 0:27:47.679 I'm not going to spend any more time on this. 0:27:47.720 --> 0:27:50.560 If you want to research that, feel free hell, or 0:27:50.600 --> 0:27:52.880 you could just watch Do the Right Thing. Yeah, it's 0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:54.080 all about a hot summer. 0:27:54.440 --> 0:27:55.440 I've never seen that. 0:27:55.720 --> 0:27:59.040 Oh yeah, it's good. It's really good. 0:27:59.200 --> 0:27:59.480 I got it. 0:27:59.600 --> 0:28:02.880 Actually, So I just got into a movie game. Vulture 0:28:02.920 --> 0:28:06.080 has one. Now it's like every weekday the Grid. I 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:06.800 told you about it. 0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:07.200 It's hard. 0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.840 I found the site where they got the game from. 0:28:09.920 --> 0:28:13.320 It's called moviegrid dot Io. I'm fully addicted. I just 0:28:13.359 --> 0:28:16.240 hit archive over and over. I played NonStop, and it 0:28:16.359 --> 0:28:18.159 just hit me. John Tooturo's in that one and I 0:28:18.160 --> 0:28:19.000 should remember that. 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.880 Oh okay, great, great, file that away, file it away. 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.560 Because he was just in one of them. And I 0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.200 picked three other movies and so. 0:28:26.240 --> 0:28:28.760 Now I'm it. It is hard, but it's really fun. 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:31.040 So if anyone loves the movie game and a grid 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:33.800 moviegrid dot io, I'm not getting paid. 0:28:33.920 --> 0:28:37.240 I just was literally on spring break with my kids 0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.800 for you know, eight full days of face to FaceTime, and. 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.120 Oh it's been so funny. 0:28:42.120 --> 0:28:45.560 Our friend posted like kids going back to school tomorrow. 0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.280 Holler if you celebrate like I can't wait? I like, 0:28:49.400 --> 0:28:49.880 why already? 0:28:49.880 --> 0:28:51.280 I just dropped them off an hour ago, and it 0:28:51.320 --> 0:28:54.000 was like them, I feel so free. But I've been 0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:56.200 playing so many games. I've been going to bed early, 0:28:56.320 --> 0:28:58.160 like in hotel rooms with them and shit. So like, 0:28:58.240 --> 0:29:01.360 I'm playing Wordle, I'm playing Connection, I'm playing the new 0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:05.720 thread is it called Threads that we play now? Playing Strands? 0:29:05.760 --> 0:29:09.600 Threads is is on Instagram. I'm playing Strands. I'm playing 0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:11.760 the mini Crossword, and then I go into spelling me 0:29:11.920 --> 0:29:14.160 even though they cut me off after five guesses. I'm 0:29:14.160 --> 0:29:16.080 going in there and I'm just doing five words, and 0:29:16.120 --> 0:29:19.760 then I I'm wilding out on the NYT games. I 0:29:19.760 --> 0:29:22.760 gotta get into the I do pay, I don't. I 0:29:22.800 --> 0:29:24.800 pay for my subscription. I think I should get games 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:27.760 with that. I know, I pay twenty dollars a month 0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:29.280 for the New York Times. I can't get a game. 0:29:29.360 --> 0:29:32.320 Come on, guys, Yeah too much. 0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:36.360 But I do feel really disconnected from society because I'll 0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.440 do guess it like it shows you the percentage of 0:29:38.440 --> 0:29:41.720 people that also guess your guests and the amount of 0:29:41.800 --> 0:29:45.640 times that's at one point seven percent, zero point nine percent, 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:46.880 two percent. 0:29:47.000 --> 0:29:49.760 I'm like, for Wordle, you mean no, for this movie? 0:29:49.760 --> 0:29:53.160 Grid Game. Oh, I'm like shocked. 0:29:53.520 --> 0:29:55.640 I'm like, I guess I'm the only one watching Friends 0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:59.760 with money? Like what, like I put Forces of Nature 0:30:00.000 --> 0:30:01.360 two point nine percent of people. 0:30:01.440 --> 0:30:06.360 I'm like, what's going on? I don't know, Like I 0:30:06.600 --> 0:30:09.000 just feeled Arlington Road four percent. 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:10.959 I'm like, I'll bet you what it is is like 0:30:11.000 --> 0:30:13.440 it's mostly men playing that game, and you have like 0:30:13.480 --> 0:30:16.160 a female perspective of movie watching. 0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:19.200 I mean, you know the amount of Dark Night and Avenger, 0:30:19.240 --> 0:30:22.720 I mean and Avengers ever just to Bradley Cooper's and 0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.400 The Guardian's if you don't know an answer, just throw 0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:26.840 in an end game Avengers. 0:30:27.360 --> 0:30:27.720 I bet. 0:30:27.960 --> 0:30:28.160 Yeah. 0:30:28.720 --> 0:30:31.000 It's just like men think they kind of own the 0:30:31.040 --> 0:30:33.320 movie space. I feel, and that's why I think that 0:30:33.400 --> 0:30:35.680 maybe that game is that's where you're getting those percentages. 0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.160 Yeah, he's just not that into you two percent. I'm like, 0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:44.200 what star studded a classic, A book that I read 0:30:44.360 --> 0:30:46.840 as well as a movie I consumed as well. 0:30:46.920 --> 0:30:49.680 Look one just came up, Murder by Numbers one point 0:30:49.720 --> 0:30:50.240 seven percent. 0:30:50.600 --> 0:30:52.520 Just watch that on a plane and I loved it. 0:30:52.600 --> 0:30:55.440 What would you guess? Ryan Gosling released from two thousand 0:30:55.480 --> 0:31:01.280 to twenty ten. I we why didn't think that of 0:31:01.320 --> 0:31:04.600 a No. No, I'm literally I'm stumped. I don't know. 0:31:05.280 --> 0:31:08.240 Yeah, like that's a good guest murdered by numbers, gus 0:31:08.280 --> 0:31:10.960 like oh two weeks notice or no, that's not even him? 0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:14.800 What's what like, Gus? Oh the Notebook? 0:31:15.120 --> 0:31:18.080 Yeah, I didn't even really watch The Notebook until like 0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.680 a year ago. He didn't really come into my consciousness. 0:31:20.720 --> 0:31:24.400 I feel like until like Drive and like that era, 0:31:24.520 --> 0:31:26.840 which was I think twenty ten's so. 0:31:26.960 --> 0:31:29.120 Yeah, I've also guessed Lars and the Real Girl. Well, 0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:31.360 well I did see that. That was a low percent too. 0:31:32.240 --> 0:31:34.800 What's find a movie where he's shooting people and he 0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:36.280 can fly? That's the one? It is? 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.360 No, he put sixty five percent of people guessed the Notebook. 0:31:40.520 --> 0:31:43.160 Oh, got it right. He's a rom com man. I guess. 0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:50.480 Okay, So we're in the squad, everyone's talking about crime whatever, 0:31:50.600 --> 0:31:54.000 and in walks Adam Baldwin, who is Captain Stephen Harris, 0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:55.800 And I don't like this guy in life or on 0:31:55.840 --> 0:31:57.760 the show. On the show, he is a poor man's 0:31:57.800 --> 0:31:59.920 vincent and offrio to me, and off the show. He 0:32:00.200 --> 0:32:02.360 was involved in gamer Gate, so he's a no thank 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.880 you for me anyway, he is standing in for Daddy 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.160 Craigan while he like wipes the whole stink of the 0:32:07.240 --> 0:32:11.240 Chrissa Gibson, Barganzel Deally a controversy off of him. Everyone's 0:32:11.240 --> 0:32:14.680 annoyed that he's there, Harris Craigan. They're like, Craigan was 0:32:14.720 --> 0:32:16.800 cleared a month ago, and he's like, yep, one Ppie 0:32:16.880 --> 0:32:18.240 solicita declare and fit for duty. 0:32:18.360 --> 0:32:20.920 It's so funny that you think he's a Danafrio type. 0:32:21.000 --> 0:32:22.480 To me, he's a Surproco type. 0:32:22.520 --> 0:32:24.560 That's so funny that you're bringing up Surproco because that 0:32:24.600 --> 0:32:27.280 there's literally a reference to that in five minutes in 0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:29.600 the episode Oh wow, like two. 0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:30.120 Minutes from now. 0:32:30.280 --> 0:32:32.880 And I googled Surproco to talk about it because I 0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:34.200 don't really know who Curproco is. 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:37.040 I've never seen that movie. No, who's the guy, the 0:32:37.080 --> 0:32:38.960 blonde guy, ah who comes in? 0:32:39.600 --> 0:32:45.600 H Terry Curproco. Yes, he gives me that vibe. It's 0:32:45.680 --> 0:32:47.760 just like a brute of a guy who comes in. 0:32:47.960 --> 0:32:52.320 SVU doesn't understand victims once the boss benson around, acts 0:32:52.360 --> 0:32:54.320 like a dickhead, and then at the end goes, I 0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.200 guess I respect, I know, I hear what. 0:32:56.080 --> 0:32:58.280 You're saying, but that guy's a little bit more like 0:32:58.360 --> 0:33:01.360 he did, like Benson the Boss do what I say. 0:33:01.240 --> 0:33:04.840 Like, and this guy is more like just creepily even keeled. 0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:07.000 And that's I guess where the Jenofrio comes in for me, 0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.880 Like he's just kind of like I'm gonna switch things up, 0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.160 you know, he's just very like ugh, you know, and 0:33:12.200 --> 0:33:15.800 he's like you, I don't know. There's more evidence to 0:33:15.840 --> 0:33:19.080 why he sucks later in this episode too, But truly, 0:33:19.360 --> 0:33:23.600 this is so funny because, like I wrote, he informs 0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:25.640 the gang that he wants to move some pieces around 0:33:25.640 --> 0:33:27.640 the board. He shakes things up by putting Munch and 0:33:27.680 --> 0:33:30.720 Finn back together and putting Rollins and Benson together with 0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:33.959 a Marrow playing swingman and sometimes going solo. And then 0:33:34.040 --> 0:33:38.680 Munch calls him Surproco, but he's talking about Curproco. I 0:33:38.680 --> 0:33:41.880 don't really get this reference because Surproco, when I looked 0:33:41.960 --> 0:33:44.280 him up, was a real life NYPD guy who was 0:33:44.320 --> 0:33:47.720 a whistleblower and he tried to like, you know, uncover 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:50.560 NYPD corruption. And then al Pacino played him in a 0:33:50.600 --> 0:33:52.720 movie in the seventies and that's like that movie got 0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:54.520 huge and that's why people know who Curproco. 0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.000 Is good to remember for my game. 0:33:56.440 --> 0:34:00.280 Yeah, and he ended up getting shot and they think 0:34:00.320 --> 0:34:05.120 that fellow officers like led him into He survived the shooting, sorry, 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:08.040 but he They think fellow officers like led him into 0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:11.680 this shooting because he was about to, you know, testify 0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:13.120 and get all these people fucked up. 0:34:13.440 --> 0:34:15.040 But I guess Sirpoko was one of the good guys. 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.200 And I don't really get why we're calling Amarro that 0:34:18.360 --> 0:34:20.719 is he some kind of whistleblower, Like I don't I 0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:22.680 didn't see the movie, so I really don't know the reference. 0:34:22.719 --> 0:34:25.840 But Nick's like all good with me, and Olivia is 0:34:25.880 --> 0:34:28.240 like kind of making a weird face, and Olivia follows 0:34:28.320 --> 0:34:31.200 him and is like, hey, just FYI, I didn't ask 0:34:31.280 --> 0:34:33.040 for that switch, and he goes, I know you didn't. 0:34:33.520 --> 0:34:37.120 I did ooh, and she looked surprised, and he's like, 0:34:37.200 --> 0:34:38.759 you know, the thing about you live, you need to 0:34:38.760 --> 0:34:39.880 have a partner you can trust. 0:34:39.960 --> 0:34:40.920 And then he walks away. 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.719 And this is related to like her kind of questioning 0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:48.399 his integrity about whether he was really trying to hook 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.560 up with Carissa Gibson, the sex worker who ended up 0:34:51.560 --> 0:34:55.200 dead in Craigan's bed and there was just some mistrust 0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:59.840 happening in the previous episodes. So now we're in Harris's office. 0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.520 He's watching some right wing Fox News type show where 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:06.960 some berther bitch is popping off about Obama and Munch 0:35:07.040 --> 0:35:09.319 comes in to be like night boss and asks, oh, 0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:12.040 are you an Adam Kane guy? And that's the guy 0:35:12.080 --> 0:35:14.640 on the talk show? And he's like, no, it's white noise, 0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:16.040 but it's like, no, I bet you do like this. 0:35:16.320 --> 0:35:19.040 And now we move to the set of the talk 0:35:19.080 --> 0:35:22.480 show and it's called Raising Caine, which, lol is the 0:35:22.560 --> 0:35:25.640 chicken that Iced Tea does represent, So a fun crossover there. 0:35:26.160 --> 0:35:28.720 And Adam Kane is played by a guy named Roger Bart, 0:35:28.800 --> 0:35:33.160 who was also in an SVU episode called Closure Part one, 0:35:33.239 --> 0:35:35.880 which is I believe are the Tracy Pollen episodes where 0:35:36.520 --> 0:35:39.080 she's a survivor and then like they'd come back to 0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:40.200 her like six years later. 0:35:40.200 --> 0:35:40.839 I think it's one of those. 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:43.400 Dude, I did not know Iced Tea is a Cain's 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:48.879 guy because my nephews love Kanes and now I can 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:50.359 relate to them a little more. 0:35:50.480 --> 0:35:52.440 Yeah. Remember there was a time where he was working 0:35:52.480 --> 0:35:54.920 the drive through. People were just pulling up and like 0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.279 they were like, holy shit, get iced tea is at 0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:57.919 the drive through. 0:35:58.080 --> 0:36:00.000 I don't remember that, but I'm looking at the picture 0:36:00.040 --> 0:36:01.200 sure of him doing it right now. 0:36:01.320 --> 0:36:03.920 Yes, well, I think it's probably because I read all 0:36:03.920 --> 0:36:05.719 of our dms and we were getting DM. 0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:08.040 That a lot from people that were like, look at Icedy. 0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.160 So yeah, he is a chicken man. But this guy, 0:36:11.239 --> 0:36:13.520 Roger Bart, I thought you might be interested. He's one 0:36:13.600 --> 0:36:15.920 of these guys that you just know you've seen him 0:36:15.960 --> 0:36:17.880 in something, even if you don't know his name. And 0:36:17.920 --> 0:36:20.279 he is a Broadway baby, but he also has a 0:36:20.360 --> 0:36:22.600 shit ton of on screen credits. He wanted Tony for 0:36:22.680 --> 0:36:25.560 playing Snoopy and You're a Good Man Charlie Brown. He 0:36:26.360 --> 0:36:29.520 sings the song go the Distance from Hercules, which was 0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:34.080 nominated for an Oscar. And he was friends with Jonathan Larson, 0:36:34.120 --> 0:36:37.520 who wrote Rent and Roger from Rent is named after him, 0:36:37.520 --> 0:36:40.720 which I thought was a cool little piece of fun fact. 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:45.040 I mean, it's also according to Wikipedia. I can't be sure, 0:36:45.080 --> 0:36:47.239 but I do think it's possible these two men were 0:36:47.239 --> 0:36:49.680 friends because they were both Broadway men for a long time. 0:36:50.000 --> 0:36:52.759 But this guy's like had recurring roles on Revenge on 0:36:52.920 --> 0:36:55.399 episodes which is one of my favorite shows. And he's 0:36:55.400 --> 0:36:59.560 been on tons of shit. So next up on his show, 0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.120 That's Happening. In the episode, he introduces an author who 0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:06.120 wrote a kinky little book called twenty five Acts, which 0:37:06.160 --> 0:37:08.640 is a woman's journey into the world of domination. 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:12.880 I'm still floored. I cannot believe that man saying hercules. 0:37:13.000 --> 0:37:16.400 Can you believe it? I can't. I am distance. 0:37:16.560 --> 0:37:19.759 Yeah, that's that's not a face I attached to that song. 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:20.319 I know. 0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:24.480 Wow crazy, he's Actually it's because he's a good actor, 0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:25.719 because I hate him. 0:37:25.760 --> 0:37:26.879 Yeah, yeah, I. 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.560 Think he plays a lot of like kind of smarmy people, 0:37:29.920 --> 0:37:31.719 you know, like he plays a lot of kind of 0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.720 like I think in episodes he's like an agent. 0:37:34.520 --> 0:37:37.520 Or something like. I don't know. He He's not usually 0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:39.880 a likable dude, I get, but he was snoopy. But 0:37:39.960 --> 0:37:42.000 maybe he was wearing a snoopy. Yeah, I don't know. 0:37:42.040 --> 0:37:44.440 I've never seen I've only ever seen You're a good Man, 0:37:44.520 --> 0:37:46.480 Charlie Brown at the Boys Camp that is the brother 0:37:46.520 --> 0:37:48.520 camp of my camp. So I've only ever seen it 0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:51.319 with like a twelve year old playing snoopy. But this 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.160 guy is introducing this author who wrote essentially a fifty 0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:56.640 Shades of Gray book. He even mentions fifty Shades of Gray, 0:37:57.000 --> 0:37:58.600 which I don't think a lot of people know. I 0:37:58.600 --> 0:37:59.759 think a lot of people do know, but I think 0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:03.160 don't know that Fifty Shades of Gray started as Twilight 0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:03.760 fan fiction. 0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:06.960 Did you know that? I did not. Yeah, like it 0:38:07.040 --> 0:38:08.359 was Twilight fan fiction. 0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:10.560 Were the main characters, and then she sort of developed 0:38:10.560 --> 0:38:12.560 it into this whole fifty Shades. 0:38:12.920 --> 0:38:13.880 I think it's a trilogy. 0:38:14.360 --> 0:38:16.480 I've never read a word of fifty Shades because I 0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.480 heard the writing was atrocious, and you know, I didn't 0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:22.000 feel the need. But the guy says, this book makes 0:38:22.040 --> 0:38:24.640 fifty Shades look like a Disney story. So they cut 0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:28.440 backstage and the author is Anna Chlumpsky, Anna Klumsky. 0:38:28.520 --> 0:38:30.719 Do you say Klumsky? I don't ever say it. I go, 0:38:30.920 --> 0:38:33.360 you know from V Yeah, my god, yeah that's what 0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:33.759 I said. 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:37.359 Well, Anna Klumsky, who I wrote in my notes, made 0:38:37.360 --> 0:38:40.400 her way into my heart via My Girl and worked 0:38:40.400 --> 0:38:41.040 as a kid actor. 0:38:41.200 --> 0:38:41.640 That's a movie. 0:38:41.680 --> 0:38:44.719 I've never seen it. Oh my god, I know about 0:38:44.760 --> 0:38:46.480 the Beast, yes, but you have to watch My Girl. 0:38:46.520 --> 0:38:48.920 It's such a great movie. Dan Ackroyd, Jamie Lee Curtiz. 0:38:48.960 --> 0:38:51.319 It's so good. I love it so much. Oh my god. 0:38:51.360 --> 0:38:53.480 I saw my Girl in the theater as like a child, 0:38:54.040 --> 0:38:56.799 and she worked actually for a long time as a 0:38:56.840 --> 0:38:57.440 kid actor. 0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:58.719 She's actually an uncle buck. 0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:00.560 I thought My Girl was her first thing, because you 0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:02.600 know what I remember about the poster of My Girl. 0:39:02.800 --> 0:39:04.840 Remember when they used to have posters that said and 0:39:04.960 --> 0:39:09.359 introducing I remember the mask posters all said and introducing 0:39:09.440 --> 0:39:12.640 Cameron Diaz, and these posters for My Girl used to 0:39:12.680 --> 0:39:15.400 all say and introducing Anna Klemski or whatever. 0:39:15.560 --> 0:39:19.000 So I remember thinking that was her first thing. 0:39:19.040 --> 0:39:20.719 But according to iem Tob she was an uncle buck, 0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:25.200 which is another amazing eighties classic. And she actually took 0:39:25.200 --> 0:39:27.520 a break for like six years from acting and went 0:39:27.520 --> 0:39:28.680 to University of Chicago. 0:39:28.760 --> 0:39:29.640 She's from Chicago. 0:39:29.960 --> 0:39:33.520 She went and got her degree, and she actually after 0:39:33.560 --> 0:39:36.080 she got her degree, she started getting other jobs, Like 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:39.480 she got a job like fact checking for the Zagat Guide. 0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:41.759 I mean, this is again, this is quick Wikipedia looking 0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:43.759 up guys. I do more research for the crimes, but 0:39:43.800 --> 0:39:46.440 for random actors, I just check a couple sources. But 0:39:46.600 --> 0:39:49.239 like it says that she got an editorial assistant job 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:52.400 for like a sci fi imprint or something, and then she. 0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:54.200 Was like, I think I'm gonna go back to acting. 0:39:53.880 --> 0:39:57.120 And then wildly comes back to acting and stars on 0:39:57.440 --> 0:39:59.960 probably one of the funniest on what I think is 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:03.240 one of the funniest shows of the past of all time, Beep, 0:40:03.640 --> 0:40:04.399 and she is. 0:40:04.640 --> 0:40:07.480 Well, it's not just your opinion, it's scientific proven that 0:40:07.520 --> 0:40:10.799 there's more jokes per minute in that show than anything 0:40:10.840 --> 0:40:11.600 that's ever been read. 0:40:11.719 --> 0:40:14.040 Yeah, it is. It is the best show. And she's 0:40:14.160 --> 0:40:15.040 great in her role. 0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:17.719 Like I really, I think it took me a little 0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:19.880 minute to come around to like Amy as a character 0:40:19.960 --> 0:40:22.520 because she's supposed to be a little bit annoying, but 0:40:22.640 --> 0:40:26.799 she's so good in this part. And actually the year 0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:28.399 that Beep came out is the same year she did 0:40:28.400 --> 0:40:31.719 this episode. And I think also when she came back 0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.040 to acting, she came back to original recipe in two 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:37.960 thousand and seven, so I think maybe she's like, I 0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.000 got a soft spot for the Law to Order universe, 0:40:40.080 --> 0:40:42.200 Like even though Veep's taking off, she's like, Oh, they 0:40:42.239 --> 0:40:44.040 want me to do an SBU, I'll do it. Look 0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:45.879 do I wish I could ask her this in person, Sure, 0:40:45.920 --> 0:40:47.280 but she did not want to do the podcast. 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:50.600 So dude, it's a tough episode. I wouldn't want to know. 0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:52.080 I mean, yeah, it's tough. 0:40:52.160 --> 0:40:52.600 Yeah it is. 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.120 It's really really brutal. But she's very great. She's very 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:57.600 good in it, I think. And she's done that Anna 0:40:57.640 --> 0:40:59.439 del v show. She's in shit all the time. She's 0:40:59.480 --> 0:41:03.320 now like fully well known and is a wonderful actor. 0:41:03.360 --> 0:41:06.920 So anyway, this guy goes, she's hot, rich, kinky, and 0:41:06.960 --> 0:41:10.200 I think I'm in love Joscelyn Paley and introduces her 0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.400 and she comes out. He goes, I don't know if 0:41:12.400 --> 0:41:14.359 I should kiss you or spank you, and she goes, 0:41:14.400 --> 0:41:16.720 why can't you do both? And it's like very yikes, 0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.480 and I just realized, Fuck, we are not even at 0:41:18.480 --> 0:41:22.600 the credits yet. Cut to Adam and Jocelyn now having 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:26.040 a cozy ass like dinner and drinks after the show, flirting. 0:41:26.920 --> 0:41:30.000 She takes off her underwear under the table and then 0:41:30.080 --> 0:41:32.520 pushes them over to him and says, what's your fantasy? 0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:34.040 So boom. 0:41:34.400 --> 0:41:36.919 Now we're in what I thought was a hotel room 0:41:37.239 --> 0:41:40.479 with an amazing view, and they're having fun. They're making out, 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.759 it's getting hot and heavy, and then he slaps her 0:41:42.800 --> 0:41:45.319 across the face and quotes her book where he goes 0:41:45.400 --> 0:41:47.520 act to I say when you can touch me, and 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:50.200 she seems into it, okay, and then he tells her to. 0:41:50.120 --> 0:41:50.880 Get on the bed. 0:41:51.120 --> 0:41:53.040 Then he's like, get on all fours and then he 0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:55.040 takes off his belt and says you need to be 0:41:55.040 --> 0:41:57.760 punished and slaps her very hard with the belt, whips 0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.200 her with the belt, and she's like, okay, wait, I 0:42:00.200 --> 0:42:02.040 don't like this, and she tells him that it hurt 0:42:02.080 --> 0:42:04.239 and to stop, and before she can say anything else, 0:42:04.400 --> 0:42:06.719 he basically has her like yoked with the belt and 0:42:06.800 --> 0:42:08.960 is choking her and he's like, you don't get to 0:42:09.000 --> 0:42:11.160 tell me what to do. And thank god we're at 0:42:11.160 --> 0:42:15.799 the credits because this is very scary and violent. So 0:42:16.040 --> 0:42:19.120 now Tampa becked one. We are in the hospital. Benson 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.880 and Rolins walk in are immediately greeted by Sarah Palermo, 0:42:22.000 --> 0:42:24.960 Jocelyn's book tour escort, who is the one who called 0:42:25.000 --> 0:42:26.480 nine one one. She's like, I found her at her 0:42:26.480 --> 0:42:28.400 hotel room. She was crying, she had blowne on her 0:42:28.440 --> 0:42:31.800 night gown, bruises marks on her neck. She says, nothing happened, 0:42:31.840 --> 0:42:33.799 but yesterday she was over the moon to be going 0:42:33.840 --> 0:42:37.000 on a date with this cane guy, and now today's 0:42:37.000 --> 0:42:38.520 she's not saying shit about him. So what does that 0:42:38.600 --> 0:42:40.640 sound like to you? So this woman basically should join 0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:42.799 the squad. She knows all the signs of something. Is 0:42:42.840 --> 0:42:45.839 a miss in the hospital room, Jocelyn's like, I wasn't raped. 0:42:45.880 --> 0:42:46.840 I told her not to call. 0:42:47.200 --> 0:42:48.759 She confirms that they went out to drinks and then 0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:50.600 they went back to Caine's place and they're like, you 0:42:50.600 --> 0:42:53.360 have a lot of bruises and like a horrible ligature 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:57.520 mark on your neck, and she's like, yeah, he got handsy. 0:42:57.560 --> 0:42:59.120 And they're like, girl, that is from a belt. That's 0:42:59.120 --> 0:43:01.480 not like somebody giving you a ask tap during foreplay, 0:43:01.600 --> 0:43:03.680 Like this is from a belt. This is fucked, and 0:43:03.760 --> 0:43:06.520 she starts telling them, Okay, here's what happened. He choked me, 0:43:06.640 --> 0:43:09.600 so I couldn't really say no. Then he, you know, 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:15.279 basically anally penetrated her and she was not used to 0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.680 that and did not enjoy that. And the music is intensifying, 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:20.240 so it's like she's clearly describing a brutal assault. 0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:22.759 And she adds, but I was flirting with him all night. 0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:24.360 I told him I wanted to dominate me. 0:43:24.480 --> 0:43:28.120 I can't now call that an assault, And Benson suggests, 0:43:28.120 --> 0:43:29.799 why don't you get a rape kit? And Amanda's like 0:43:29.960 --> 0:43:32.520 goes straight for the scare tactic. Remember that this is early. 0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:34.839 Rollins still like this is only the beginning of her 0:43:34.840 --> 0:43:37.719 second season, and she's like, yeah, girl, don't forget you 0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:39.799 could have an STD want to get that rape kit? Like, 0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:42.440 so she immediately goes for like worst case scenarios, scaring 0:43:42.440 --> 0:43:45.120 the victim, and they sort of walk out. Benson's like, 0:43:45.200 --> 0:43:47.719 gentle reminder, girl, let's not scare the victims into getting 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.000 rape kits. That's better to build trust, and Rollins is like, 0:43:50.239 --> 0:43:52.520 it doesn't matter anyway. I've read her book and an 0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:54.520 act five, the main character is choked with a belt 0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:58.759 and sodomized and has eighteen orgasms. And Benson's like yeah, right, 0:43:58.800 --> 0:44:02.520 and it's a best seller, so it's complicated. So now 0:44:02.520 --> 0:44:04.680 we're in the squad room. They're all sitting around watching 0:44:04.719 --> 0:44:06.839 the interview that Jocelyn did with Kane on his show 0:44:06.840 --> 0:44:09.640 the night before. I can't tell if Kin is supposed 0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:12.279 to be kind of like, it's not like a it 0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.319 is seems like it is a political talk show, but 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:16.799 then he also has it's like a daily a conservative 0:44:16.880 --> 0:44:19.319 daily show, like maybe like o'reiley, I guess I don't 0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:20.840 really watch any of that shit, so I don't know. 0:44:21.320 --> 0:44:24.160 And on this clip from the show, they are flirting. 0:44:24.239 --> 0:44:26.880 They're talking in a very cringey way, like with a 0:44:26.920 --> 0:44:31.759 lot of smm double entendre that's like honestly lame. And 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:33.400 then the gang is all talking about it. They're like, 0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.960 Jocelyn's not pressing charges. She's worried about how this comes 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.520 off in light of her book, and Munch is impressed 0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:41.799 that she could work in nipple clamps and Albinoni's adagio 0:44:41.960 --> 0:44:45.239 in one sentence, and Munch has read the book to 0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:49.160 his blind mother, Lol, don't worry like he just was like, 0:44:49.160 --> 0:44:50.840 my mom, they had at my mom's nursing home and 0:44:50.880 --> 0:44:52.200 she can't see very well, so I read it to 0:44:52.239 --> 0:44:56.560 her and I'm like, you just read about sodomizing and 0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:00.400 domination to your mom. But very much, Harris is like, 0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:02.480 why are we wasting our time on this if she's 0:45:02.520 --> 0:45:05.040 not pressing charges, you know in this way very surproco 0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:07.520 very McGrath is who we're talking about. By the way, 0:45:07.560 --> 0:45:10.719 when we say curproco Benson has to explain to this 0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:13.680 adults that, like SVU, victims sometimes need time to come around, 0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:17.520 like the like pressing charges to even confessing what happened 0:45:17.560 --> 0:45:17.879 to them. 0:45:17.960 --> 0:45:19.440 You know, it's like a whole process. 0:45:19.840 --> 0:45:22.080 Rollin says, there are also rumors about this guy that 0:45:22.160 --> 0:45:26.000 he's handsying forward with women, and Finn and Munch randomly 0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:27.399 race to defend this guy. 0:45:27.440 --> 0:45:29.160 They're like, now we've seen him at benefits. He's one 0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:31.120 of the good guys. Like he's at the benefits for 0:45:31.120 --> 0:45:34.239 the police widow. Like they haven't works, I know, like 0:45:34.239 --> 0:45:38.560 it's not season fourteen guys, like they like police widows 0:45:38.560 --> 0:45:42.320 battered women. He never says no to you know, charity, 0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:44.200 but then they're like, you mean he never hears no. 0:45:44.760 --> 0:45:47.440 So then Harris plays traffic cop. He sends Munch and 0:45:47.520 --> 0:45:49.640 Finn to go talk to this guy before he lawyers up, 0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:52.080 since they apparently are his number one fans, and then 0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:54.960 he sends Benson and Rollins to see if Jocelyn has 0:45:54.960 --> 0:45:57.680 had time to process like in, which he kind of 0:45:57.680 --> 0:46:00.520 does in air quotes because he's looking for charges to 0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:02.839 get pressed. And then tomorrow, why don't you go follow 0:46:02.920 --> 0:46:05.719 up about the rumors with Caanan? His interns So now 0:46:05.760 --> 0:46:08.799 Harris is walking with Benson and they're talking and he's like, 0:46:08.840 --> 0:46:11.640 you're bringing Rollins up to speed, and Benson goes, she's 0:46:11.640 --> 0:46:13.320 been here for a year and she has a degree 0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:14.440 in forensic science. 0:46:15.000 --> 0:46:19.239 Did we know this? No, we did not know that 0:46:19.440 --> 0:46:21.240 Rollins had a degree in forensic science. 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.560 Like this is no, she really gives off criminal justice. 0:46:24.640 --> 0:46:28.640 Yeah, like this is the only time that's been mentioned. 0:46:28.960 --> 0:46:32.440 Like this makes her random career change in the season 0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.680 twenty four make a little bit more sense that she's 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:37.279 like a professor now, but it doesn't explain why she's 0:46:37.360 --> 0:46:40.160 also an IT expert. But you know, that's always what 0:46:40.200 --> 0:46:42.239 I feel like they've leaned in on more than her 0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.040 being a forensic science major, which, by the way, I 0:46:45.040 --> 0:46:47.160 took forensic chemistry in college because I thought it would 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:49.439 be all true crime, and shit, it was hard as fuck. 0:46:49.800 --> 0:46:52.200 I think I got like a c It was hard. Anyway. 0:46:53.120 --> 0:46:56.400 This asshole is like, he's basically like, why don't you 0:46:56.440 --> 0:46:59.080 share your experience with her and not me? He didn't 0:46:59.120 --> 0:47:01.000 like how back in the school just now she tried 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.240 to tell him, like what it's all about with sexual 0:47:03.280 --> 0:47:06.360 assault victims. So he's like, you can tell your little girlfriend, 0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:09.160 how things work at SVU. You don't have to tell me. 0:47:09.280 --> 0:47:11.920 So again, I don't like this guy, and thankfully this 0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:15.520 is his last episode spoiler alert, he's only in three. 0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.400 Munch and Finn show up to the set of Raising 0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.239 Kine and the guy's like, fellas, my buddies, you need 0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:24.840 more money for widows. What's happening and they're like, we 0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:26.080 need to talk about Jocelyn. 0:47:26.520 --> 0:47:27.319 He's playing dumb. 0:47:27.320 --> 0:47:29.320 They're like, oh, it's a matter of something happened to Jos, 0:47:29.360 --> 0:47:32.640 Like he's being really, you know, mister nice guy, and 0:47:32.680 --> 0:47:34.520 they're trying to act like they've got his back. They're like, 0:47:34.560 --> 0:47:36.600 why don't you tell us your side, you know? And 0:47:36.640 --> 0:47:39.600 he's like, guys, you read her book. We acted out 0:47:39.600 --> 0:47:41.680 a few scenes. She wanted me to be in control, 0:47:42.000 --> 0:47:43.960 and he's like the belt was her idea and they're like, 0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.360 I thought you were in control and he's like everything 0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:48.319 was consensual. I don't want to kiss and tell, but 0:47:48.400 --> 0:47:50.960 she did give me her panties at the restaurant and 0:47:51.160 --> 0:47:53.680 they're like he's then suddenly he gets cagy and he's like, 0:47:53.719 --> 0:47:55.359 I don't have time for this, and neither do you, guys. 0:47:55.360 --> 0:47:56.600 I gotta go and then he just. 0:47:56.560 --> 0:47:59.120 Walks it walks off, and Munch is like, wow, no, 0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:02.080 charld charges f and I hate this case already. So 0:48:02.920 --> 0:48:06.359 now we are at Intimate Adventures, which is I guess 0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.600 an erotic bookstore where Jocelyn is doing another book signing 0:48:10.000 --> 0:48:13.120 and some lady is confessing to Jocelyn that this book 0:48:13.160 --> 0:48:16.080 gave her her orgasms back after her third kid, and 0:48:16.200 --> 0:48:19.239 Jocelyn's like, cool, cool, cool, next, and then Benson and 0:48:19.320 --> 0:48:22.600 Rollins roll up and she's like, I'm kind of busy, 0:48:22.640 --> 0:48:24.840 but then of course talks to them anyway, and they're like, girl, 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:27.840 you had some pretty serious injuries. You should take it easy, 0:48:28.280 --> 0:48:30.160 and she's like, I have tiln ol and codyin so 0:48:30.280 --> 0:48:32.040 like I am right as rain. But she also is 0:48:32.040 --> 0:48:36.960 wearing a turtleneck to hide her egregious violent belt mark 0:48:37.000 --> 0:48:40.800 around her neck ligature mark. Excuse me, And Benson says 0:48:40.920 --> 0:48:43.080 it sounds like you're in shock, and she's like, I'm 0:48:43.080 --> 0:48:45.800 on a ten city book tour. Anthracite magazine is storing 0:48:45.800 --> 0:48:48.560 me a party tonight. I did have to google anthracite 0:48:48.760 --> 0:48:51.160 and it is black coal, So I don't know what 0:48:51.239 --> 0:48:54.760 kind of trendy magazine is naming itself like Coal Monthly, 0:48:54.920 --> 0:48:58.440 but that's a hot magazine and she's being honored. Rollins 0:48:58.719 --> 0:49:00.680 is back at her with the hard and is like, 0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:02.320 I gotta tell you, girl, if you do decide to 0:49:02.320 --> 0:49:04.600 press charges down the line, this behavior is going to 0:49:04.680 --> 0:49:06.600 turn the jury against you. I know it sucks, but 0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:09.040 it's true. And she's like, I'm a big girl. Look, 0:49:09.080 --> 0:49:11.880 everyone's waiting, i gotta go. So now we're at the 0:49:11.920 --> 0:49:15.279 Anthracite party. It is outside, it looks big, it looks 0:49:15.280 --> 0:49:17.200 like it's on a rooftop, and it's a hot party. 0:49:17.680 --> 0:49:21.680 There's a huge, like humongous cover of her up in 0:49:21.719 --> 0:49:25.960 the background, and everyone's making awkward double entendre jokes about 0:49:26.000 --> 0:49:30.040 you know, whipping and you know the shit she writes about. 0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:32.200 And she looks a little bit more. She looks a 0:49:32.200 --> 0:49:33.880 little less comfortable with it than she did when she 0:49:33.920 --> 0:49:36.080 was on the talk show the night before. She's wearing 0:49:36.080 --> 0:49:38.480 an awkward scarf now to hide the belt marks on 0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:38.839 her neck. 0:49:38.920 --> 0:49:39.720 And then who. 0:49:39.520 --> 0:49:42.760 Should strike up a toast at that moment, But Adam 0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:46.359 Kane he's just suddenly there and he thanks her for 0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:50.000 unleashing the inner venus within every American woman and every 0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.960 American man is deeply grateful, and Venus I think is 0:49:52.960 --> 0:49:55.319 like the main character of this book. She starts to 0:49:55.480 --> 0:49:58.120 freak out now because she's face to face with the sky. 0:49:58.200 --> 0:50:00.719 She wasn't expecting it. She runs off. She gets to 0:50:00.760 --> 0:50:03.360 the elevator to leave. Twenty five people get off this 0:50:03.440 --> 0:50:05.560 elevator and then she's the only one getting on it, 0:50:05.600 --> 0:50:08.360 and he follows her onto the elevator. They're alone in 0:50:08.360 --> 0:50:10.320 the elevator and he's like, you talk to the cops, 0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:12.560 and he calls her a bitch, shoves her against the wall, 0:50:12.880 --> 0:50:16.200 then turns her around and assaults her again, saying you 0:50:16.320 --> 0:50:18.560 wanted it last night and you want this too. And 0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:20.520 it's very fucked up and hard to watch. And I'm 0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.400 just you know, acknowledging that here. It's like a very 0:50:23.800 --> 0:50:27.120 these are graphic sort of scenes and she is frozen 0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:28.160 like in this moment. 0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:30.120 So now top of bac too. 0:50:30.160 --> 0:50:32.400 Thank god, we get like graced with a commercial break here, 0:50:32.480 --> 0:50:34.279 unless you're watching on Hulu, in which case you just 0:50:34.360 --> 0:50:37.880 keep rolling along. Jocelyn shows up at Benson's apartment because 0:50:37.920 --> 0:50:41.200 you know, her door's always open, and she's apologizing to Olivia, 0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:43.399 but she's like, I just I couldn't handle a police 0:50:43.440 --> 0:50:46.600 station right now, she tells Benson how Adam Kin showed 0:50:46.680 --> 0:50:48.400 up at her party, he wasn't on the list, he 0:50:48.480 --> 0:50:50.680 made a toast, and then she's like, he was so 0:50:50.840 --> 0:50:52.600 angry at me that I went to the cops. 0:50:52.640 --> 0:50:54.120 Did you guys tell him that I went to you? 0:50:54.160 --> 0:50:57.879 And Benson goes, well, we did send detectives to talk 0:50:57.920 --> 0:50:59.880 to him, and she's like, so shood. 0:51:00.040 --> 0:51:01.520 He's like, why would you do that? 0:51:01.600 --> 0:51:03.520 This is all your fault, and then Benson like calms 0:51:03.560 --> 0:51:05.880 her down, brings her over to the couch and Jocelyn 0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.880 tells Benson basically that he did it again, describes the 0:51:08.880 --> 0:51:11.840 whole scene that we just saw and says, I froze, 0:51:11.840 --> 0:51:14.640 I didn't say anything, and then he said. 0:51:14.440 --> 0:51:16.160 If you screw with me, you'll be sorry. 0:51:16.280 --> 0:51:19.120 After he was done with the second assault on her, 0:51:19.440 --> 0:51:21.600 and Lives like, are you ready to press charges now? 0:51:22.000 --> 0:51:25.200 And now we cut to Rollin's watching the elevator footage 0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:27.319 and I'm like, this guy had to have known there 0:51:27.360 --> 0:51:30.960 are cameras in elevators and that, like, you don't really 0:51:30.960 --> 0:51:33.680 have that much time to assault someone before another person 0:51:33.760 --> 0:51:34.239 gets in there. 0:51:34.400 --> 0:51:35.160 It just seems like. 0:51:35.120 --> 0:51:37.360 A very ballsy move, and then right as I type that, 0:51:37.600 --> 0:51:39.359 Rollins goes says the same thing. 0:51:39.440 --> 0:51:40.480 She goes, this is brazen. 0:51:40.520 --> 0:51:42.400 He had to have known the cameras in the elevators, 0:51:42.520 --> 0:51:45.759 so they But then Amarro goes, yeah, but he also 0:51:45.760 --> 0:51:47.600 probably knows that it's Act nine of the book is 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:51.319 Elevator Sex, and Tomorrow admits that he read the masterpiece 0:51:51.360 --> 0:51:54.920 the night before. So Munch says, it doesn't look like 0:51:54.960 --> 0:51:56.759 she likes it, and Finn goes, but it doesn't look 0:51:56.800 --> 0:52:00.600 like she's resisting either, and it's like, again season four teen, Finn, 0:52:00.600 --> 0:52:03.720 what is happening with you today? You're like, stop and frisk? 0:52:03.800 --> 0:52:05.719 Why didn't you say no? And push him off? Like 0:52:05.760 --> 0:52:07.960 it's this guy loves widows. It's a kind of a 0:52:08.000 --> 0:52:11.040 wildfin episode. But you know, maybe the raising Kne's chicken 0:52:11.040 --> 0:52:13.960 of it all will wash it away. But Rollins goes, 0:52:14.080 --> 0:52:17.640 that's called tonic immobility, Finn, and like you should know 0:52:17.680 --> 0:52:20.920 that by this stage of the game, and Benson's explaining. 0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:23.200 She's like there's a third response to fight or flight, 0:52:23.239 --> 0:52:25.880 and that's freeze, and Fenn's like, good luck, sell him 0:52:25.880 --> 0:52:28.560 that to a jury, and Benson's like, well, I think 0:52:28.600 --> 0:52:31.520 we're ready to take this to the Ada. But which 0:52:31.600 --> 0:52:34.880 one they all lawyered up after Delia named every single 0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:39.000 one of them in her you know, explosive tell all situation. 0:52:39.320 --> 0:52:42.600 So this guy Harris finally gives us the only thing 0:52:42.640 --> 0:52:45.600 he's good for, which is introducing us to Raphael Barba. 0:52:45.640 --> 0:52:48.600 He goes, I know this guy, Barbara, and Rollins and 0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:50.359 Benson are like, oh, yeah, we know him from that 0:52:50.400 --> 0:52:53.480 case where he prosecuted two John's for assaulting a sex worker. 0:52:53.760 --> 0:52:55.120 That was a tough case, and. 0:52:55.080 --> 0:52:57.040 They're like, yeah, he's a Brooklyn DA but he's just 0:52:57.080 --> 0:52:59.960 requested a like a lateral move to Manhattan, and he's 0:53:00.160 --> 0:53:03.120 got big brass. And then he kind of makes eye 0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:06.120 contact with Benson and says ego instead of balls, and 0:53:06.239 --> 0:53:09.000 he thinks that this kind of high profile case is 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:11.200 just the kind of thing that gets Barbara horney. So 0:53:11.960 --> 0:53:14.960 now we're in arraignment and Barba is like wiping the 0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.279 floor with some criminal and his lawyer. And then he 0:53:17.320 --> 0:53:20.000 saunters over to Harris to meet Benson and Rollins and goes, 0:53:20.400 --> 0:53:22.400 take your daughter's to work day, And I was like, 0:53:23.080 --> 0:53:26.360 that's hillious. The first thing that he says to Olivia 0:53:26.400 --> 0:53:29.560 Benson and Rollins is, oh, is it take your daughter 0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:32.560 to work day? Like Benson's the same age as the 0:53:32.600 --> 0:53:34.920 Captain Harris basically, so it's funny. 0:53:35.000 --> 0:53:38.080 Well, also with Barbara, the most popular like gift and 0:53:38.160 --> 0:53:41.160 photo of his face is from this episode Oh really yeah, 0:53:41.239 --> 0:53:45.319 where he's like look like determined but sneaky like he 0:53:45.360 --> 0:53:46.600 does like this. 0:53:46.600 --> 0:53:47.600 This is the episode. 0:53:47.719 --> 0:53:50.200 And there's also a scene coming up that's a very iconic, 0:53:50.360 --> 0:53:53.239 you know, Barba seeing that people have asked for us 0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:53.640 to cover. 0:53:53.760 --> 0:53:54.680 Oh my god, god. 0:53:55.400 --> 0:53:58.640 So Rollins and Benson shake hands with Barbara, and he's 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:01.279 like being very charming. But our girls are skeptical, you know, 0:54:01.360 --> 0:54:04.120 they like never trust a man right away. So they're 0:54:04.200 --> 0:54:06.719 updating him on the details, and he's like is she credible? 0:54:06.760 --> 0:54:09.440 And they're like, well, she's concerned about the optics, but 0:54:09.520 --> 0:54:11.799 she was assaulted two times. And Barbera's like, I didn't 0:54:11.800 --> 0:54:13.840 ask if she was assaulted. I asked her she was credible, 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:17.560 Like his signature like cutting straight to the point. Then 0:54:17.600 --> 0:54:21.200 he launches into a story from RedHook. He said, two 0:54:21.239 --> 0:54:22.920 months ago, there was a woman who was strangled so 0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:25.920 badly that she had particual hemorrhaging in her eyes, and 0:54:26.000 --> 0:54:28.560 the purp claimed that she was into SMM, which was 0:54:28.600 --> 0:54:30.880 a lie, but the jury deadlocked because half of them 0:54:30.920 --> 0:54:33.200 had read this damn book. So it's like the way 0:54:33.239 --> 0:54:35.560 Fifty Shades of Gray was like taking over the nation 0:54:35.719 --> 0:54:38.880 in like around this time, like twenty twelve, and everybody 0:54:38.920 --> 0:54:41.440 was fucking reading it. I mean, the entire book Club 0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:44.640 movie series is started with Fifty Shades of Gray. And 0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:47.239 Benson's like, okay, well, what's your point, Like I thought 0:54:47.280 --> 0:54:48.960 you were the dude that took on the hard cases 0:54:49.000 --> 0:54:51.440 and won them. And he's like, let me talk to Joscelyn. 0:54:51.840 --> 0:54:53.840 So now he's laying it all out for Joscelyn. He's like, 0:54:53.960 --> 0:54:55.759 I need to know everything about you because if you 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.000 leave out one thing, that's the thing that his side 0:54:58.040 --> 0:54:59.640 will use to blow up our entire case. 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:01.399 You might not like me when this is over. 0:55:01.440 --> 0:55:03.239 And she's like, I don't like you now, and he's like, 0:55:03.440 --> 0:55:06.120 love your honesty, bitch, let's talk. So he starts hitting 0:55:06.160 --> 0:55:08.239 her with questions about her personal life, going all the 0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:10.759 way back to college. I can't tell how old this 0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:13.399 girl's supposed to because the timeline gets very weird here. 0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:17.239 Now Barba's meeting with the boys, and it's munch fin 0:55:17.320 --> 0:55:19.880 and tomorrow and Tomorrow's like I did some digging, and 0:55:19.920 --> 0:55:21.759 it turns out that he prays on young girls who 0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:23.800 are new to the city, but Jocelyn would be the 0:55:23.800 --> 0:55:25.720 first round to press charges. Like no one has actually 0:55:25.719 --> 0:55:27.680 come forward, it's just kind of rumor millshit. 0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:30.160 And then uh oh, Rollins pops in to let them 0:55:30.200 --> 0:55:32.400 know that Kine has just leaked his monologue for that 0:55:32.520 --> 0:55:35.120 night's show and it's all over the internet, So he's 0:55:35.160 --> 0:55:39.680 basically preempting the media spirestorm that's going to come from 0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:42.279 him getting charged with rape. He's letting everyone know that 0:55:42.400 --> 0:55:44.759 he is a victim who's about to be thrown into 0:55:44.840 --> 0:55:45.600 the ring of fire. 0:55:46.120 --> 0:55:49.440 Of the millions of men who are accused of sexual 0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:52.319 assault and are perfectly innocent that we see every year, 0:55:52.400 --> 0:55:56.440 it's an epidemic. And that's heavy sarcasm, in case anyone's 0:55:56.480 --> 0:55:59.920 not picking up. We see Jocelyn watching this whole monologue 0:55:59.920 --> 0:56:01.279 on an iPad in a coffee shop. 0:56:01.360 --> 0:56:02.160 She looks stressed. 0:56:02.560 --> 0:56:04.719 Kate admits that he did have sex with Jocelyn on 0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:08.000 this monologue, but he does not, you know, admit to 0:56:08.040 --> 0:56:10.640 it being obviously an assault and the gang is like, 0:56:10.680 --> 0:56:12.319 pretty smart of him to get out in front of it, 0:56:12.440 --> 0:56:15.120 right out of Letterman's playbook, And Munch is like, yeah, 0:56:15.160 --> 0:56:16.600 but Letterman didn't rape anyone. 0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:18.880 And we're gonna get more on that later. Yeah. I 0:56:18.960 --> 0:56:20.680 was fucked up that he said her name. 0:56:20.800 --> 0:56:21.280 Yeah. 0:56:21.440 --> 0:56:25.560 Yeah, Well it's a full like it's a it's witnessed 0:56:25.560 --> 0:56:28.320 intimidation and like it's it's fuck ducked. 0:56:28.400 --> 0:56:31.920 Yeah, And who led him into that party? I know? 0:56:32.440 --> 0:56:34.799 Well, he reminds me of like a Bill Maher kind 0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:37.239 of guy. And Bill Maher, you know, just dropped his 0:56:37.280 --> 0:56:39.480 agency because they didn't invite him to an Oscar party. 0:56:39.719 --> 0:56:43.640 Yeah, and I'm I mean, I guess I'd be pissed 0:56:43.640 --> 0:56:45.600 if I was a client for over thirty years and 0:56:45.680 --> 0:56:48.200 I probably make them a you know, some money. Yeah, 0:56:48.200 --> 0:56:52.640 but he is a smarmy guy, right, Yeah, maybe it's 0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.759 Bill Maher because he has this other story where on 0:56:54.880 --> 0:56:57.480 his rider he says he needs like a limo and 0:56:57.520 --> 0:56:59.759 he went to perform at a college and they didn't 0:56:59.800 --> 0:57:02.480 have a limo and he said, I'm not going and 0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:05.799 he didn't do the show. Jesus, he he goes it 0:57:05.880 --> 0:57:07.879 just shows respec like this is the thing I asked 0:57:07.920 --> 0:57:11.160 for so fucking do it, which I get because I 0:57:11.200 --> 0:57:13.399 showed up to my show and there were no diet 0:57:13.400 --> 0:57:15.680 coke cans, and that is what I asked. 0:57:15.680 --> 0:57:17.840 Diet cokes are your limo, and they're a little bit easier. 0:57:17.840 --> 0:57:19.880 I'd say, that's a little bit more of a reachable, 0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:21.520 attainable goal and if somebody won, but. 0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:24.360 I have that, but you know what that I'm thinking 0:57:24.360 --> 0:57:24.680 about it. 0:57:24.720 --> 0:57:27.720 I recently just did a college and I arrived and 0:57:27.760 --> 0:57:30.600 I was like, you know, I'm here, where's the car? Like, 0:57:30.600 --> 0:57:33.400 where are you? And the students went, We're on our way. 0:57:33.560 --> 0:57:37.160 We'll be there in forty five minutes. And I said, 0:57:37.560 --> 0:57:41.760 I'm gonna grab an uber and she responded, no, don't 0:57:41.760 --> 0:57:44.200 do that. We're already on our way. And I said, 0:57:44.360 --> 0:57:47.560 I'm not waiting forty five minutes. You should have planned better. 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:49.400 Was there a confusion with my flight time? 0:57:49.480 --> 0:57:50.160 H huh? 0:57:50.200 --> 0:57:57.840 And she went we were in class and I said, well, 0:57:57.880 --> 0:58:00.320 you can turn right back around. I am taking an uber. 0:58:00.400 --> 0:58:02.920 That is for I'm not waiting forty five minutes for you. 0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:08.040 It's like insanity. But then in my head I'm like, yeah, 0:58:08.080 --> 0:58:11.480 I guess that's twenty one. Indeed, I didn't mind. I 0:58:11.520 --> 0:58:13.800 didn't mind waiting forty five minutes for a free ride, 0:58:13.800 --> 0:58:14.200 I guess. 0:58:14.400 --> 0:58:16.960 But like they're probably like, she's gonna be so excited 0:58:17.000 --> 0:58:17.760 we're picking her up. 0:58:19.120 --> 0:58:26.680 Yeah, okay. So Barba basically is like Cane forced our hand. 0:58:26.720 --> 0:58:29.160 We have to strike back. So Munch and Fins show 0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:31.360 up at a restaurant to bring him in, and Munch 0:58:31.400 --> 0:58:33.680 calls him Citizen Kane and he's like, come on, guys, 0:58:33.920 --> 0:58:35.440 I can come in tomorrow with my lawyer. 0:58:35.440 --> 0:58:36.439 We don't have to do this here. 0:58:36.600 --> 0:58:38.360 And they're like, if you want a privacy, you shouldn't 0:58:38.360 --> 0:58:40.280 have popped off on the internet, bitch, and they purp 0:58:40.320 --> 0:58:43.520 walk him out of the restaurant. Paparazzi bulbs all a flashing, 0:58:44.040 --> 0:58:47.640 and he starts blaming the NYPD for the quote unquote 0:58:47.680 --> 0:58:50.280 Hooker scandal and says the NYPD is just trying to 0:58:50.320 --> 0:58:53.680 distract from their big scandal. And he says, the court 0:58:53.680 --> 0:58:56.360 of public opinion, baby, that's my wheelhouse, and Thin goes 0:58:56.400 --> 0:58:58.320 taking down rapists, that's ours. 0:58:58.600 --> 0:58:59.360 Banging on a. 0:58:59.360 --> 0:59:01.800 Good one, A good one, A great way to end 0:59:02.160 --> 0:59:04.120 the midpoint of the show. So now top of Act 0:59:04.160 --> 0:59:07.000 three were in court and not only is this the 0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:10.280 episode that blesses us with the first appearance of Raphael Barba, 0:59:10.320 --> 0:59:12.880 it also is the first appearance of the legendary Rita 0:59:12.960 --> 0:59:16.720 Calhoun played by Elizabeth Marvel, who we've all seen in 0:59:16.920 --> 0:59:20.160 a million different things, and Homeland is one that I 0:59:20.200 --> 0:59:22.600 love her in. She in House of Cards, she's just 0:59:22.640 --> 0:59:25.680 in everything, and she is of course defending this asshole. 0:59:25.760 --> 0:59:27.680 She defends a lot of assholes, even though she is 0:59:27.760 --> 0:59:31.120 kind of an icon. And Barba asks for remand as 0:59:31.160 --> 0:59:33.400 this man has means to flee. He's very rich and 0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:37.640 he's Canadian, and Calhoun's like, well, he has stated publicly 0:59:37.680 --> 0:59:39.760 he wants to go to trial and fight these accusations. 0:59:39.760 --> 0:59:42.200 And Barba's like, yeah, that was a televised attack on 0:59:42.240 --> 0:59:45.560 the victim. And Calhoun argues that the state is trying 0:59:45.560 --> 0:59:48.240 to silence public outrage. And the judge is like, whatever, 0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:50.200 I'm granting remand I don't want to get involved with 0:59:50.240 --> 0:59:52.600 you too. Save it for trial. And the little shit 0:59:52.760 --> 0:59:55.760 guy at Caine, he looks shocked. He's like he never 0:59:55.800 --> 0:59:57.919 thought that. He's like, what am I paying this high 0:59:57.920 --> 1:00:00.960 power bitch for that? She's not getting me bail at least, 1:00:01.000 --> 1:00:04.920 but sorry, Barba's in town now, So Calhoun and Barba 1:00:05.080 --> 1:00:07.440 walk out of court together, fighting about free speech, and 1:00:07.480 --> 1:00:10.200 Barba's like, don't make me put a gag order on 1:00:10.280 --> 1:00:12.280 this whole thing, and Calhoun's like, well, I heard your 1:00:12.320 --> 1:00:15.680 witness likes those two. There's so much dorky double entendre 1:00:15.800 --> 1:00:18.760 about at BDSM in this episode. It's kind of I'm 1:00:18.800 --> 1:00:20.560 sure at the time it was very edgy, but it's 1:00:20.680 --> 1:00:21.320 very irolling. 1:00:21.360 --> 1:00:21.520 Now. 1:00:21.880 --> 1:00:24.040 She's going to move to have the book admitted, he says, 1:00:24.040 --> 1:00:27.280 which will eliminate rape shield laws, which are the rape 1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.800 field laws are meant to limit victim's sexual history as 1:00:29.840 --> 1:00:33.080 evidence in sexual assault trials, but if the book gets admitted, 1:00:33.160 --> 1:00:35.919 then those won't apply, and Thenson says yeah, and they're 1:00:35.920 --> 1:00:38.240 going to find out whatever lover inspired this book, who's 1:00:38.240 --> 1:00:40.200 going to testify that she likes it from behind? 1:00:40.240 --> 1:00:41.000 And then game over. 1:00:41.480 --> 1:00:43.320 It really is so fucked up how you just have 1:00:43.360 --> 1:00:45.920 to be a perfect victim, Like you can be assaulted 1:00:46.120 --> 1:00:47.760 and then like somebody can just bring in an ex 1:00:47.760 --> 1:00:49.520 boyfriend that's like, yeah, one time we did a fucked 1:00:49.600 --> 1:00:51.520 up sex move and it's like, well you wanted it then, 1:00:51.800 --> 1:00:55.080 Like it's just really wild. How you have to be 1:00:56.400 --> 1:00:59.880 squeaky clean perfect to get any justice, it feels like, 1:01:00.360 --> 1:01:03.600 and Harris said, well, why don't we find this guy first? 1:01:03.680 --> 1:01:06.920 So Rollin says, well, Jocen went to Silver Spring College 1:01:06.920 --> 1:01:09.000 in Maryland. We can drive down there tomorrow morning, and 1:01:09.040 --> 1:01:12.520 Barbo goes try tonight. I'm like, also, is her boyfriend 1:01:12.600 --> 1:01:15.760 at the college? I don't understand. She looks thirty to me, 1:01:16.000 --> 1:01:19.520 so I don't really understand why we're going straight back 1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:21.960 to her college, Like that's where all the information is, Like, 1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:24.720 I don't the writing did not make that like clear. 1:01:25.200 --> 1:01:26.320 And it's like, why. 1:01:26.160 --> 1:01:28.120 Don't you just ask her who her ex boyfriend is 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:30.160 before you hit the road for Soft Shell Crab down 1:01:30.160 --> 1:01:30.720 in Maryland. 1:01:30.760 --> 1:01:31.959 But they're on their way. 1:01:32.360 --> 1:01:34.440 So now Finn and Muncher and Maryland chatting with some 1:01:34.520 --> 1:01:36.960 dorky soccer coach who explains that he and Joson were 1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:38.040 together for four years. 1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:39.680 He thought they were going to get married. 1:01:39.800 --> 1:01:42.160 She broke up with him because she had so much 1:01:42.160 --> 1:01:44.320 going on with the book, but she never really told 1:01:44.400 --> 1:01:47.240 him what the book was about, and he only found 1:01:47.280 --> 1:01:48.880 out about the content of the book. 1:01:48.720 --> 1:01:52.480 From looking at his mother's copy of it. And he's like, yeah. 1:01:52.480 --> 1:01:54.560 It was kind of weird because everyone started asking me 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:56.760 like personal questions about my sex life when the book 1:01:56.800 --> 1:01:59.000 came out, and like they were like, oh, yeah, they 1:01:59.080 --> 1:02:01.360 asked you about, you know, rough stuff and domming and 1:02:01.400 --> 1:02:03.040 he's like yeah, and the thing is, we didn't do 1:02:03.160 --> 1:02:05.880 any of that. He's like, we mixed it up. Sometimes 1:02:05.920 --> 1:02:09.040 I was on top, sometimes she was. And it's pretty funny. 1:02:09.400 --> 1:02:11.560 This guy did not mix it up. And he says 1:02:12.000 --> 1:02:14.400 Jocelyn told him that he was her first and that 1:02:15.080 --> 1:02:19.360 he knows she was his first. So again feels like 1:02:19.400 --> 1:02:21.200 this could have been a phone call to this man. 1:02:21.280 --> 1:02:22.440 I don't know why we had to go all the 1:02:22.440 --> 1:02:25.240 way down to Maryland, but there we are. Then they 1:02:25.280 --> 1:02:28.840 talked to another roommate and they're now on a college campus, 1:02:28.880 --> 1:02:31.280 So I'm like, so is her college roommate still there? 1:02:31.400 --> 1:02:35.600 It's super confusing and like yeah, so I was like, 1:02:35.680 --> 1:02:37.800 she looks thirty, so college has been done for eight years. 1:02:37.840 --> 1:02:40.800 I don't really get why they're back there anyway. No 1:02:40.840 --> 1:02:44.000 one knows anything about her BDSM life if she has one. 1:02:44.520 --> 1:02:48.160 Amaro thinks that she maybe is making this sexy shit up, 1:02:48.200 --> 1:02:50.600 like because she makes references to like Gilligan's Island and 1:02:50.640 --> 1:02:54.040 stuff like she doesn't really have modern cultural references in 1:02:54.080 --> 1:02:56.760 the book, and he thinks maybe she researched all this, 1:02:56.800 --> 1:02:58.920 and Thin's like, nah, she's got a double life. These 1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:03.880 kind of kings don't just from nowhere. Finn again batting zero. 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:08.040 In this episode, Okay, now, Benson and Rawlins are talking 1:03:08.080 --> 1:03:11.080 to a redhead named Katie and she's like, yeah, so 1:03:11.200 --> 1:03:12.960 what Caine recommended me for a job? 1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:14.160 Like what's what of it? 1:03:14.560 --> 1:03:16.560 And they're like, it's just kind of weird that you 1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:19.000 went from being his intern to the producer of a 1:03:19.000 --> 1:03:21.400 food show in two months? And did you know that 1:03:21.440 --> 1:03:24.000 he was only allowed to have male interns after you left? 1:03:24.400 --> 1:03:27.120 And she's stonewalling, but like, you know, you can tell 1:03:27.160 --> 1:03:29.600 she knows exactly what they're getting at. And they're like, babe, 1:03:29.640 --> 1:03:31.080 remember how you had to come to work with a 1:03:31.120 --> 1:03:34.280 broken wrist and bruises on your neck. And she does 1:03:34.320 --> 1:03:36.520 have a very good fishtail braid going on in her hair, 1:03:36.520 --> 1:03:37.800 and I just want to point it out. You know, 1:03:37.840 --> 1:03:39.880 we care more about we care about other people's hair 1:03:39.920 --> 1:03:43.160 than just Benson's on this program. And she knows that 1:03:43.240 --> 1:03:46.160 they know what's up, so she kind of like sighs, 1:03:46.280 --> 1:03:48.720 and they're like, you know, keeping all the feelings about 1:03:48.720 --> 1:03:50.280 this locked up is only going to make it worse. 1:03:50.320 --> 1:03:52.680 And she's like, I admit I did go home with 1:03:52.760 --> 1:03:54.640 him and I wanted to fuck until he started to 1:03:54.720 --> 1:03:57.760 hurt me. And she insists I've moved on, and Benson's 1:03:58.080 --> 1:04:01.400 and Benson says, by keeping quiet, you're giving him power 1:04:01.440 --> 1:04:03.760 over you, and she's like, whatever, at least I didn't 1:04:03.760 --> 1:04:05.960 get a monologue about me on TV like what he 1:04:05.960 --> 1:04:08.000 did to Jocelyn. She's like, I don't need that shit. 1:04:08.600 --> 1:04:11.720 And she then says, you know, he's not a bad guy. 1:04:11.920 --> 1:04:13.960 It's just when he gets that belt in his hand, 1:04:14.040 --> 1:04:17.280 he loses it. And I'm like, so a bad guy, okay, 1:04:17.400 --> 1:04:17.720 got it? 1:04:18.040 --> 1:04:21.200 Yeah, belt shit, Yeah, alter your moral yeah. 1:04:21.240 --> 1:04:23.840 Like honestly the sweetest guy until he gets a belt 1:04:23.880 --> 1:04:26.840 in his hand and then he's fucking doctor Juckyl. So 1:04:27.040 --> 1:04:29.280 is that the bad one or mister Hyde. I don't remember, 1:04:29.280 --> 1:04:31.040 actually do Maybe doctor Jeckell's the good one. 1:04:31.040 --> 1:04:33.560 I don't know. I'm sure you'll tell me. Back to 1:04:33.600 --> 1:04:35.840 the college where all the clues are. 1:04:36.240 --> 1:04:41.439 Tomorrow is now chatting up Jocelyn's advisor, A professor, and 1:04:42.000 --> 1:04:45.720 she doesn't know how Jocelyn could have gone into BDSM. 1:04:45.880 --> 1:04:48.760 She said, there's not really any older professors having affairs 1:04:48.800 --> 1:04:51.800 with younger kids these days, which seems like a weird 1:04:51.840 --> 1:04:54.720 thing to dig for granted, And then on his way out, 1:04:54.880 --> 1:04:56.960 basically she's no help. And so on his way out 1:04:57.000 --> 1:05:01.439 he notes her harpsichord and she's like, oh yeah, they 1:05:01.480 --> 1:05:02.040 say it was. 1:05:02.080 --> 1:05:03.240 Owned by Albanoni. 1:05:03.280 --> 1:05:06.600 And Amaro's like, yeah, yeah, what's his most stream song 1:05:06.640 --> 1:05:10.560 on Spotify? My wife loves it, and she goes his adagio, 1:05:10.800 --> 1:05:13.680 it's his most beautiful work. And get this, he didn't 1:05:13.680 --> 1:05:16.920 even write it. His biographer composed it two hundred years later. 1:05:17.200 --> 1:05:19.880 And Tomorrow's like, no kidding. And I can't tell if 1:05:19.880 --> 1:05:21.520 he's even picking up on clues or not, because he 1:05:21.600 --> 1:05:23.120 kind of has like a dumb guy face a lot 1:05:23.120 --> 1:05:25.439 of the time. But back at the squad room, they're 1:05:25.440 --> 1:05:27.880 gathered around the bulletin board and it looks like Jocelyn's 1:05:27.880 --> 1:05:31.760 sexual past is pretty squeaky clean. There's three interns of Canes, 1:05:31.800 --> 1:05:35.080 but none of them will testify, including Katie, and they're like, 1:05:35.080 --> 1:05:36.840 and he broke her wrists, so she won't testify. 1:05:36.880 --> 1:05:37.840 We're not getting any of them. 1:05:38.360 --> 1:05:41.040 It looks dark as hell in the squadroom, like I'm 1:05:41.040 --> 1:05:42.760 assuming it's night. But then they get a call from 1:05:42.800 --> 1:05:45.480 Tomorrow and he's like in Maryland in broad daylight, with 1:05:45.560 --> 1:05:48.440 like a college clock tower behind him. It's very jarring, 1:05:48.800 --> 1:05:50.200 and he goes, I think we might be asking the 1:05:50.240 --> 1:05:52.800 wrong questions. I need another day, and Barba's like, Nope, 1:05:52.840 --> 1:05:54.880 going to the grand jury now, and like hangs up. 1:05:55.360 --> 1:05:58.440 So at grand jury, Jocelyn explains everything that happened the 1:05:58.520 --> 1:06:00.360 night of her attack, and then we cut to Barbara 1:06:00.360 --> 1:06:02.840 on the steps of the courthouse talking to the press saying, 1:06:02.880 --> 1:06:04.760 you know, the grand jury indictment is the first step 1:06:04.760 --> 1:06:07.200 in getting justice. So they got the indictment, which is 1:06:07.200 --> 1:06:11.000 a good first step. Calhoun starts baiting him from she 1:06:11.040 --> 1:06:13.520 comes up behind him at the press conference and is 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:16.120 repeating the claim that the DA is trying to distract 1:06:16.120 --> 1:06:18.800 from the big Delia Ganzell scandal where like a million 1:06:18.840 --> 1:06:21.600 judges and lawyers were all involved. Barba snaps back, I 1:06:21.640 --> 1:06:23.520 don't care if you're a John in the South Bronx 1:06:23.600 --> 1:06:25.600 or a three million dollar a year talk show host. 1:06:25.760 --> 1:06:28.640 No means no, and Calhoun's like compare it to the book, 1:06:28.680 --> 1:06:31.000 and the whole case falls apart like a house of cards. 1:06:31.680 --> 1:06:35.600 So Amorrow's still in college. He pops in to visit 1:06:35.640 --> 1:06:38.520 that harpsichord professor again and he says, you know, I 1:06:38.520 --> 1:06:42.360 spent the whole night reading your work and you're very prolific. 1:06:42.440 --> 1:06:46.480 And he finds some passage about an orgasm Saint Teresa 1:06:46.600 --> 1:06:49.200 something like that, and he compares it to a passage 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:51.920 from Joscelyn's book, and he's like, this sounds the same, 1:06:52.520 --> 1:06:54.720 and she kind of has a look like, oh, I 1:06:54.720 --> 1:06:56.600 didn't really realize she was paying so much attention to 1:06:56.640 --> 1:06:59.320 my class. And then he's like, Lady's she's making a 1:06:59.360 --> 1:07:01.320 shits on a money, Like you have a case for 1:07:01.360 --> 1:07:06.440 plagiarism if she's taking your work, you know, And she's like, 1:07:06.640 --> 1:07:08.920 fuck no, I don't want to be associated with that smut. 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:12.480 And Amara's like, also, I checked on your harpsichord. Someone 1:07:12.520 --> 1:07:14.520 bought it at Sutheby's for two hundred and eighty five 1:07:14.520 --> 1:07:17.760 thousand dollars. And she stops at her tracks because college 1:07:17.760 --> 1:07:20.520 professors are not dropping almost three hundred k at Sutheby's 1:07:20.520 --> 1:07:24.640 on harpsichords that belong to Albanoni. So now Barbara Benson 1:07:24.680 --> 1:07:28.320 and Rollins are talking to Jocelyn, like, girl, give it up. 1:07:28.320 --> 1:07:30.320 Who got you into all this kinky shit? Your ex 1:07:30.440 --> 1:07:33.120 is a nerd? And she's like, it wasn't him. It 1:07:33.160 --> 1:07:35.000 was a guy I met on my semester abroad. His 1:07:35.200 --> 1:07:38.479 name was George George Glass. Like it's very It's like, sure, 1:07:38.560 --> 1:07:42.080 jan vibes are everywhere, and Jocelyn does not have a 1:07:42.080 --> 1:07:44.360 good cover story and it's like, wouldn't you make something 1:07:44.440 --> 1:07:46.200 up before you went on a ten city book tour, 1:07:46.320 --> 1:07:49.400 like make up a boyfriend or like something, and be like, oh, yeah, 1:07:49.480 --> 1:07:51.959 the first I first got into this kind of shit 1:07:52.040 --> 1:07:53.680 at this time, and I used to go to this 1:07:53.760 --> 1:07:56.800 sex club or whatever, like just have some details prepared. 1:07:56.840 --> 1:07:59.000 You are a writer if you're trying to pull off 1:07:59.240 --> 1:08:01.960 some kind of con And they ask her all these 1:08:02.040 --> 1:08:04.200 questions and she's like, what is this twenty questions and 1:08:04.200 --> 1:08:07.200 Benson goes, Nope, just one who wrote the book. I 1:08:07.280 --> 1:08:09.160 remember when I watched this episode the first time. This 1:08:09.280 --> 1:08:10.880 was a twist for me. I was like, fuck, she 1:08:10.920 --> 1:08:14.200 didn't write it. And then Jocelyn looks immediately like fuck, 1:08:14.280 --> 1:08:17.000 I've got God. And now she's like, how did you 1:08:17.040 --> 1:08:19.559 find out? And Barba's like I told you on the 1:08:19.600 --> 1:08:21.880 first day that the one thing you hide is what 1:08:21.960 --> 1:08:24.160 is going to destroy this case? What were you thinking? 1:08:24.200 --> 1:08:26.519 And lives like back off, Barbara, and she's like, please 1:08:26.520 --> 1:08:28.840 don't tell anyone. It's going to ruin my career, my life. 1:08:28.840 --> 1:08:31.720 Please please please, She's begging. So now at the top 1:08:31.720 --> 1:08:34.040 of the final act, she's explaining that it was horny 1:08:34.080 --> 1:08:36.599 Professor Dobson's idea to put her name on the book. 1:08:36.960 --> 1:08:38.520 She's like, she's an academic. 1:08:38.760 --> 1:08:41.599 She just sucks, like her life is fully falling apart 1:08:41.720 --> 1:08:44.519 on top of two rapes, and it's like, why don't 1:08:44.560 --> 1:08:46.360 you go to the cops. It's like, I guess we 1:08:46.360 --> 1:08:48.760 should just show this episode to everyone that says it. 1:08:48.840 --> 1:08:52.240 I know, I know, because they did dig and they 1:08:52.280 --> 1:08:56.280 found out stuff, and no one is perfect. So none 1:08:56.280 --> 1:09:00.839 of this really like matters in terms of getting assaulted, 1:09:00.960 --> 1:09:01.519 But you know. 1:09:02.040 --> 1:09:06.400 I think it does help Barbara to examine though. Oh yeah, 1:09:06.400 --> 1:09:08.960 I feel like this really helps him on the stand 1:09:09.080 --> 1:09:10.280 bring down this motherfucker. 1:09:10.400 --> 1:09:12.400 Yeah, he figures out a way around it. Because it's 1:09:12.400 --> 1:09:13.240 a TV show. 1:09:13.400 --> 1:09:15.800 Unfortunately, I feel like in real life it would have 1:09:15.800 --> 1:09:18.320 been like okay, taste, like no one's gonna believe you, 1:09:18.439 --> 1:09:21.840 but he's a wonder. He's a you know, a magic lawyer. 1:09:21.960 --> 1:09:26.080 I also hate that they put all lies in one category, yeah, 1:09:26.120 --> 1:09:28.320 where it's like, well, you actually didn't graduate school, so 1:09:28.680 --> 1:09:31.360 you're a liar all the time, you know, Like right, 1:09:31.680 --> 1:09:33.400 people lie, everyone lies. 1:09:33.800 --> 1:09:35.400 Yeah, one time you lied about your age to get 1:09:35.439 --> 1:09:37.639 into a bar, so clearly you're lying about your assault, 1:09:37.720 --> 1:09:41.320 like it's wild. We find out Professor Jobson is an academic, 1:09:41.439 --> 1:09:44.440 was worried about her reputation. Basically what she told Tomorrow, 1:09:44.560 --> 1:09:47.120 I don't want to be associated with that, you know, smut, 1:09:47.600 --> 1:09:51.599 And Jocelyn admits I own ninety thousand dollars in college debt. 1:09:51.880 --> 1:09:53.960 The year before this book came out, I made twenty 1:09:54.040 --> 1:09:58.080 six hundred dollars writing like it is a tough fucking business. 1:09:58.320 --> 1:10:01.479 She says, the professor gives her ten percent. I'd expect more. 1:10:01.600 --> 1:10:03.559 She's out there on the book tour, but if it's 1:10:03.600 --> 1:10:07.920 making millions, then she's making a good a pretty penny. 1:10:08.320 --> 1:10:11.160 But she said it's also helped her make connections. You know, 1:10:11.240 --> 1:10:12.960 it was worth it for her to just do this, 1:10:13.080 --> 1:10:15.519 and then you know, maybe her real writing will get 1:10:15.560 --> 1:10:18.120 some attention. And she's like, if I ever say that 1:10:18.120 --> 1:10:19.800 I didn't write the book, I lose all the money 1:10:19.840 --> 1:10:22.200 and I want to drop the charges. I just cannot 1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:24.040 get out. And Barbara's like, it's gonna come out when 1:10:24.080 --> 1:10:26.360 I indict you for lying to a grand jury, and 1:10:26.400 --> 1:10:28.759 if you don't testify, you're looking at perjury. And Jocelyn 1:10:28.800 --> 1:10:31.559 freaks out and runs out of the office and Rollins 1:10:31.600 --> 1:10:33.639 is like, couldn't this help us, Like you were worried 1:10:33.640 --> 1:10:36.320 about the book damaging her, but she didn't write the book, 1:10:36.439 --> 1:10:38.680 so and Barba's like, no, the jury's just going to 1:10:38.720 --> 1:10:42.839 see her as a liar. So back in court, Jocelyn 1:10:42.920 --> 1:10:45.800 is admitting to not having written the book, and she's 1:10:45.840 --> 1:10:49.080 explaining that she agreed to say she wrote the book 1:10:49.120 --> 1:10:51.439 because of college debt. Her parents are working class, she 1:10:51.479 --> 1:10:54.160 needed the money. She admits she's not into domination and 1:10:54.200 --> 1:10:57.080 that she was just playing a role, and which, by 1:10:57.120 --> 1:10:57.679 the way. 1:10:57.640 --> 1:10:59.320 I know plenty of fucking people who do that. I 1:10:59.360 --> 1:11:00.920 know plenty of comedians. 1:11:00.520 --> 1:11:03.360 Who talk about sex constantly and make it their brand 1:11:03.640 --> 1:11:05.519 when I know for a fact they are prude as 1:11:05.560 --> 1:11:08.200 hell and not super sexual. People do it all the 1:11:08.240 --> 1:11:11.759 time people come up with, you know, characters and brands 1:11:11.800 --> 1:11:16.400 for themselves. So she says that she was into having 1:11:16.400 --> 1:11:18.080 sex with Caine that night and that it was fun 1:11:18.160 --> 1:11:20.160 until he started hurting her, which is like literally the 1:11:20.200 --> 1:11:23.040 same exact words that girl Katie said. And then she 1:11:23.120 --> 1:11:25.960 testifies to how the attack transpired. We've seen all this, 1:11:26.200 --> 1:11:28.240 and how the next night he did it again in 1:11:28.240 --> 1:11:31.280 the elevator, and Barba asks her to explain the consequences 1:11:31.320 --> 1:11:33.960 you have you face for testifying, and she's like, well, 1:11:34.000 --> 1:11:37.320 I have to return all the royalties. My reputation is ruined, 1:11:37.400 --> 1:11:39.599 and I've just wanted to be a writer my whole life. 1:11:40.080 --> 1:11:42.479 And that's like the thing that I do think if 1:11:42.520 --> 1:11:44.160 I was on a jury, I would be like, yeah, 1:11:44.160 --> 1:11:46.760 what does she have to gain from coming forward? Like 1:11:47.160 --> 1:11:50.519 she was making millions of like hundreds of thousands of 1:11:50.560 --> 1:11:54.600 dollars keeping this secret, if she was making up a 1:11:54.680 --> 1:11:57.880 rape charge, what would be to gain? It really does, 1:11:58.280 --> 1:12:01.759 and like people are always like, she's doing this for Clout, 1:12:01.800 --> 1:12:04.400 and it's like even when there's you know, campus rapes 1:12:04.439 --> 1:12:05.920 against athletes or anything like. 1:12:05.880 --> 1:12:09.519 That, it's like, nobody is doing this for Clout. 1:12:09.640 --> 1:12:13.360 It's insanity well, the easy way to prove that is 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:15.639 to be like, Okay, tell me the victims' names. Tell 1:12:15.680 --> 1:12:19.200 me who accused Bill Cosby? Right, tell me they did 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:21.679 it for attention and fame? So tell me yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:12:21.880 --> 1:12:24.840 so true, so true. Tell me who all these women 1:12:24.880 --> 1:12:26.880 are that have come forward? Who is the person that 1:12:26.920 --> 1:12:27.960 accused Kobe Bryant? 1:12:28.200 --> 1:12:28.400 Yeah? 1:12:28.400 --> 1:12:31.600 And where's their their MTV cribs? Where's the where they 1:12:31.720 --> 1:12:33.040 used all the money and fame that they got. I 1:12:33.080 --> 1:12:34.800 want to see their gorgeous house that they live in 1:12:34.840 --> 1:12:37.320 and their successful lives, a free of trauma. 1:12:37.600 --> 1:12:41.040 Yeah, it's just it's like you can't think of one 1:12:41.160 --> 1:12:42.200 person crazy. 1:12:42.360 --> 1:12:47.840 You're right, that's so true. Say the name. So uh oh, 1:12:47.960 --> 1:12:50.120 it's Rita's turn. This is not going to be pretty. 1:12:50.439 --> 1:12:53.200 She's pointing out how many times Jocelyn is lied about 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:56.439 writing this book, like you've been lying for months, You've 1:12:56.479 --> 1:12:59.160 been going on book tours, interviews every single time. 1:12:59.160 --> 1:13:00.519 You're lying about right now this book. 1:13:00.720 --> 1:13:02.680 And then she plays the clip from the interview on 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:06.960 Raising Kine where Jocelyn says, you know, women do it 1:13:07.000 --> 1:13:08.880 all these days, and sometimes they just want men to 1:13:08.960 --> 1:13:12.080 throw them down and take control. So you know the 1:13:12.120 --> 1:13:15.040 fact that that is said on an interview the night 1:13:15.080 --> 1:13:16.280 of the assault. 1:13:15.960 --> 1:13:18.519 Is you know, damning. I guess to a jury. 1:13:18.840 --> 1:13:21.479 She goes at Jocelyn pretty hard about lying about sex 1:13:21.520 --> 1:13:24.639 for money, But the argument is pretty empty, like I said, 1:13:24.640 --> 1:13:26.599 when you consider she could have stayed quiet and kept 1:13:26.600 --> 1:13:29.639 making tons of money, but she spoke out and lost everything. Anyway, 1:13:29.680 --> 1:13:32.240 when Calhoun is done, it does not look good for Jocelyn. 1:13:32.720 --> 1:13:35.080 Now we've got Professor Dobson on the stand and she 1:13:35.160 --> 1:13:38.280 admits to writing the book, And I'm like, what's funny 1:13:38.280 --> 1:13:40.400 is that fifty Shades is honestly supposed. 1:13:40.080 --> 1:13:41.519 To be super bad writing. 1:13:41.600 --> 1:13:44.719 Like everyone I've heard is said, it's absolutely horrible writing. 1:13:44.840 --> 1:13:47.680 And it's funny that it's like this very erudite, like 1:13:47.880 --> 1:13:51.920 educated academic is like putting in references to Albaloni and 1:13:51.960 --> 1:13:52.400 stuff like. 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:54.439 I don't think that's how fifty Shades really looks. 1:13:54.479 --> 1:13:58.240 But I wonder how a good writer would write a 1:13:58.280 --> 1:14:00.880 series of erotic fiction. If you have any recommendations for 1:14:01.360 --> 1:14:04.360 a series of erotic fiction that is actually well written, 1:14:05.080 --> 1:14:05.599 let me know. 1:14:05.920 --> 1:14:07.439 My friend Jackie. 1:14:07.080 --> 1:14:11.280 Does a stream called Akatar where they talk about I 1:14:11.320 --> 1:14:14.960 think it's called a cord of thorns and roses. 1:14:15.000 --> 1:14:17.680 I might be getting the C word wrong, but it's smut. 1:14:17.800 --> 1:14:19.960 It's like erotic stuff, and they love talking about it 1:14:20.000 --> 1:14:22.240 and they get a ton of people are into it. 1:14:22.240 --> 1:14:23.400 It's a huge thing. 1:14:23.840 --> 1:14:25.360 But I don't know if they would say She always 1:14:25.360 --> 1:14:27.280 tells me the world building is amazing, but I don't 1:14:27.280 --> 1:14:28.799 know if she would say that the writing is awesome. 1:14:28.800 --> 1:14:31.360 So if you have any RECs, please message me. I'd 1:14:31.360 --> 1:14:33.679 love to read some horny literature that's actually good. 1:14:34.080 --> 1:14:37.639 I know when we were fresh to America, my mom 1:14:38.680 --> 1:14:43.360 read Danielle Steele. Yeah, yeah, daniel Steel is huge. The 1:14:43.400 --> 1:14:45.880 font of her name on those books iconic. 1:14:46.000 --> 1:14:47.840 I can see it in my mind right now, right 1:14:47.840 --> 1:14:50.599 as you said that, I was like Danielle and I 1:14:50.680 --> 1:14:53.479 used to like have bookstores, Like I feel like my 1:14:53.560 --> 1:14:55.479 dad would always take me to bookstores and just look 1:14:55.520 --> 1:14:58.360 for an hour, and I would usually just read Sweet 1:14:58.400 --> 1:14:59.920 Valley High books, but sometimes I'd go over to the 1:15:00.200 --> 1:15:02.280 and like just look at the like horny covers and 1:15:02.320 --> 1:15:05.840 be like, what's this? You know, but it always felt 1:15:05.880 --> 1:15:10.519 like it was really forbidden. But anyway, the professor admits 1:15:10.560 --> 1:15:12.600 to being a very horny woman and that all the 1:15:12.640 --> 1:15:15.240 fantasies in the book are hers, and she knew that 1:15:15.400 --> 1:15:17.639 talk show hosts would not want to talk about BDS. 1:15:17.680 --> 1:15:19.599 I'm with a middle aged college professor with a John 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:22.599 and Kate plus eight haircut, so she it was her 1:15:22.640 --> 1:15:25.680 idea to ask Jocelyn to pose as the writer, and 1:15:25.800 --> 1:15:28.640 Jocelyn was shocked when she read the draft, So she 1:15:28.760 --> 1:15:31.320 knew that Jocelyn wasn't into this kind of shit, and 1:15:32.160 --> 1:15:36.280 she thought that the juxtaposition of Jocelyn's like wide eyed 1:15:36.320 --> 1:15:39.519 innocence and these raunchy fantasies would be compelling to people. 1:15:39.640 --> 1:15:41.719 And she's quite a good actor. She's on these shows 1:15:42.320 --> 1:15:44.760 meaning Jocelyn, not even meaning Anna Klemsky, like, she's on 1:15:44.800 --> 1:15:47.240 these shows being like I don't know, time me up, 1:15:47.280 --> 1:15:50.679 timey down, like you know, all this like double entendre. 1:15:50.800 --> 1:15:52.800 And she's really not into any of that shit at all. 1:15:52.840 --> 1:15:53.920 So she's doing a good job. 1:15:54.400 --> 1:15:57.519 And she's the woman says, well, I'm a laughing stock 1:15:57.560 --> 1:15:59.920 in my field now, and it's like, whatever, bitch, laugh 1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:01.559 all the way to the bank. Like you don't have 1:16:01.640 --> 1:16:05.160 to ever teach a class to board college students ever again. 1:16:05.240 --> 1:16:06.679 You can literally live out your. 1:16:06.560 --> 1:16:09.760 Fantasies you can buy a piece of Albanoni's ashes if 1:16:09.800 --> 1:16:12.280 you want. You have so much money from writing these books. 1:16:12.600 --> 1:16:15.320 But she says she's testifying because she's sickened by this 1:16:15.400 --> 1:16:18.960 guy using her words as a smokescreen for assault. And 1:16:19.040 --> 1:16:22.000 now it's Calhoun's turn and she goes, but everyone thought 1:16:22.040 --> 1:16:23.840 that Jocelyn was the writer, right, and that these were 1:16:23.920 --> 1:16:26.680 Jocelyn's fantasies. And she's like yeah, and she's like, so 1:16:26.760 --> 1:16:29.040 maybe you just chose her because she's a great liar, 1:16:29.400 --> 1:16:32.719 and like, you know, so, now Rita is questioning Kine 1:16:32.760 --> 1:16:35.599 on the stand and he's saying, I don't need to rape. 1:16:35.680 --> 1:16:38.200 I do fine with volunteers. And it's like we've talked 1:16:38.240 --> 1:16:40.280 about this million times on our podcast. That's like not 1:16:40.360 --> 1:16:42.960 really the issue, Like when someone's a rapist, it's not like, 1:16:43.040 --> 1:16:45.080 oh I'm so ugly, I can't get it unless I 1:16:45.160 --> 1:16:45.759 force people. 1:16:45.920 --> 1:16:48.480 Like it's it's completely about. 1:16:48.280 --> 1:16:51.320 Power and like liking that someone is scared and that 1:16:51.360 --> 1:16:53.920 you're controlling someone and like hurting them, you know, Like 1:16:54.240 --> 1:16:56.880 we always talk about Louis c k like he wanted 1:16:56.880 --> 1:16:58.639 to just jerk off in front of women. He could 1:16:58.640 --> 1:17:01.200 have hired sex workers instead. He wanted to make these 1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:05.800 other female comedians feel weird and awkward, like that was 1:17:05.840 --> 1:17:06.679 part of it for him. 1:17:06.760 --> 1:17:10.720 So yeah, all of the like defense stuff and all 1:17:10.800 --> 1:17:12.879 the excuses, they're just so retro. 1:17:13.520 --> 1:17:17.040 Yeah, like they're so old timing. They've been debuned, they're done. Yeah. 1:17:17.120 --> 1:17:20.840 Yeah, just because you have fantasies and dress like doesn't 1:17:20.840 --> 1:17:23.439 mean you want to be rape Like. I just the 1:17:23.479 --> 1:17:26.800 mental gymnastics these fucking rape apologists to do. 1:17:26.960 --> 1:17:29.000 It's insane. Yeah. Yeah. 1:17:29.360 --> 1:17:31.840 So he's saying, yeah, I get ladies because I have 1:17:31.880 --> 1:17:33.760 a hit show, but I'm also kind of okay to 1:17:33.800 --> 1:17:36.799 hang out with. I'm told he's really smarmy and shitty 1:17:36.800 --> 1:17:38.560 and he's doing a great job this actor. Because I 1:17:38.600 --> 1:17:40.719 do hate him and want to kill him. He always 1:17:40.760 --> 1:17:43.560 follows his partner's lead. He says, if they want dominance, 1:17:43.600 --> 1:17:44.160 he does that. 1:17:44.680 --> 1:17:48.040 He says Jocelyn wanted a mutually satisfactory rough sex game 1:17:48.080 --> 1:17:52.240 that she initiated, and then Barbara goes to cross examine, 1:17:52.360 --> 1:17:54.879 but it's late, so the judge is like, cool, at Barba, 1:17:54.880 --> 1:17:55.519 you'll talk tomorrow. 1:17:55.560 --> 1:17:57.040 Barba's like begging for it. He's like, can I just 1:17:57.040 --> 1:17:58.679 do thirty minutes? Can I just run at this guy 1:17:58.720 --> 1:18:00.439 for thirty minutes and then pick up in the and 1:18:00.479 --> 1:18:03.919 she's like, I have to go. So in Barbara's office, 1:18:03.960 --> 1:18:07.680 he thinks that the professor's testimony kind of canceled out Jocelyn's. 1:18:07.680 --> 1:18:08.679 He's calling it a draw. 1:18:09.160 --> 1:18:11.360 So they're sort of not in a good place or 1:18:11.400 --> 1:18:13.559 a bad place, but it's not, you know, looking great 1:18:13.560 --> 1:18:16.280 for a win. So now it's Benson, Rolins, Munch, and 1:18:16.320 --> 1:18:18.920 Fin and the latter two do not have any good news. 1:18:18.920 --> 1:18:20.920 They're like, we can't find any of the other victims, 1:18:21.000 --> 1:18:23.600 so we can't introduce any prior bad acts. 1:18:23.640 --> 1:18:25.800 And Barba's like, well, maybe we can get him to 1:18:25.880 --> 1:18:30.800 open the door. So back in court, Barba's questioning Kane. 1:18:30.840 --> 1:18:33.960 He finally gets his moment and he asks, this is like, so, 1:18:34.040 --> 1:18:35.840 this is the scene I'm talking about. This is like 1:18:36.439 --> 1:18:39.600 probably why Raoula Sparza stayed on the show for so 1:18:39.680 --> 1:18:41.960 long and why people immediately loved Barbara, because this is 1:18:42.000 --> 1:18:44.760 one of the most wild courtroom scenes we've ever seen, 1:18:45.000 --> 1:18:46.880 and it's his first fucking episode. 1:18:47.400 --> 1:18:49.920 I truly forgot about Like when I saw this, I 1:18:50.080 --> 1:18:52.639 was shocks because I knew, you know, he always tapped 1:18:52.720 --> 1:18:54.160 dances and does something great. 1:18:54.240 --> 1:18:56.400 But yeah, I mean this is up there with the 1:18:56.400 --> 1:18:58.720 girl taking off her shirt or Gray like getting that 1:18:58.720 --> 1:19:00.680 guy to stand up with a bone, you know, and 1:19:00.680 --> 1:19:03.479 saying that's not an objection you're raising you know, So 1:19:04.080 --> 1:19:06.720 this is to me a top ten court moment. He 1:19:06.840 --> 1:19:10.080 asks Kane what excites you about having sex with Jocelyn? 1:19:10.479 --> 1:19:13.000 And the guy's like, what excites anybody about having sex? 1:19:13.000 --> 1:19:16.799 And then you know, Barba's like, was it the belt? 1:19:17.120 --> 1:19:21.120 And then the guy's face changes and he goes, oh, 1:19:21.160 --> 1:19:23.400 so the belt was her idea? Like that's what Cain 1:19:23.520 --> 1:19:25.880 is claiming, even though she was pretending she doesn't even 1:19:25.920 --> 1:19:26.759 really like this stuff? 1:19:26.800 --> 1:19:27.400 Why would she? 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:30.679 And he goes, she wanted to role play, and Barba's 1:19:30.680 --> 1:19:33.240 being super tricky. He's kind of talking to this guy like, 1:19:33.880 --> 1:19:37.439 oh my god, I like don't know anything about kinky stuff. 1:19:37.479 --> 1:19:38.920 Could you like tell me about it? 1:19:39.000 --> 1:19:41.479 Like that's kind of his vibe of how he's getting 1:19:41.520 --> 1:19:44.160 this guy to like He's like, I'm just like a 1:19:44.280 --> 1:19:47.240 regular meat and potatoes missionary guy. Can you tell me 1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:50.160 how you know you get into kinky stuff? 1:19:50.160 --> 1:19:51.200 Like how do you start that? 1:19:51.320 --> 1:19:53.559 Do you just take your belt off and then just 1:19:53.640 --> 1:19:55.720 give her a few hits with it, and then he 1:19:55.800 --> 1:19:58.080 prods so hard. He goes so like where does the 1:19:58.120 --> 1:19:59.840 buckle go? And the guy's like, what do you want 1:19:59.840 --> 1:20:02.240 me to like show you? And Barba's like kind of 1:20:02.840 --> 1:20:07.120 and Calhoun objects and Barba's like, come on, I'm curious, 1:20:07.479 --> 1:20:09.600 and the judge allows it, which. 1:20:09.360 --> 1:20:10.320 Is the funny. 1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:13.400 Jared was sitting next to me when I was watching 1:20:13.400 --> 1:20:14.439 this reading and he. 1:20:14.400 --> 1:20:17.719 Goes, are you kidding me right now? Like what judge 1:20:18.040 --> 1:20:18.880 is gonna do this? 1:20:19.280 --> 1:20:22.719 So Barbara takes off his own belt, puts it around 1:20:22.800 --> 1:20:26.240 his neck, and he's like, show me how she likes it, 1:20:26.720 --> 1:20:30.200 and he keeps saying like he's trying to get this 1:20:30.240 --> 1:20:32.600 guy horny in court about the belt, and he just 1:20:32.680 --> 1:20:35.000 keeps goading him, like come on, pull on it, show 1:20:35.040 --> 1:20:36.240 me how you like it, Show me how you like 1:20:36.680 --> 1:20:37.880 How hard do you like to pull it? Da da 1:20:37.960 --> 1:20:41.200 da da, And then suddenly Kane snaps right. He goes 1:20:41.240 --> 1:20:44.479 into his special belt personality that he has and he's 1:20:44.520 --> 1:20:46.840 like like this and he pulls it so hard that 1:20:46.880 --> 1:20:50.120 he chokes Barba out, and uh oh, the jury's faces 1:20:50.240 --> 1:20:53.519 they did not like that. So then Barba points out 1:20:53.880 --> 1:20:56.200 he goes, I'm okay, I'm okay, not a mark on me, 1:20:56.320 --> 1:20:58.160 even though he is like wearing a shirt, so it's 1:20:58.160 --> 1:21:00.640 a little bit different, but he has he says, I 1:21:00.640 --> 1:21:02.639 don't have any marks on me. And then he shows 1:21:02.680 --> 1:21:05.040 the jury the photo of Jocelyn's neck from the hospital 1:21:05.080 --> 1:21:08.240 where the mark is so red and violent, and he's 1:21:08.320 --> 1:21:10.280 and it's like, so imagine what he did to her 1:21:10.360 --> 1:21:12.280 if what he just did to me didn't even leave 1:21:12.320 --> 1:21:14.840 a mark. So he goes, is this what excites you 1:21:14.880 --> 1:21:17.800 about sex hurting your victims? And he's like, she liked 1:21:17.800 --> 1:21:21.400 it like that, and he goes, you mean Jocelyn, And 1:21:22.040 --> 1:21:25.040 Barbara goes, you liked it like that? She didn't, and 1:21:25.120 --> 1:21:27.320 you know they do. Cut to Anna Klumsky and she 1:21:27.520 --> 1:21:31.839 is wiping tears away and it's you know, emotional, probably 1:21:31.840 --> 1:21:34.839 for her. So we cut to Benson going into Harris's 1:21:34.880 --> 1:21:37.479 office and it's been three days on this trial and 1:21:37.520 --> 1:21:40.479 the jury is still out. So then Benson goes, SPU 1:21:40.560 --> 1:21:42.720 is the only unit where the victim's word isn't good enough. 1:21:42.760 --> 1:21:45.200 You have to prove that a crime was committed. And 1:21:45.280 --> 1:21:47.200 Harris is packing up his desk and he gives her 1:21:47.240 --> 1:21:49.519 the good news that Kraigan's coming back, I'm out of here, 1:21:49.880 --> 1:21:51.600 and he asks you ever think about moving up the 1:21:51.680 --> 1:21:54.479 ranks and she says, I wouldn't want to supervise anyone 1:21:54.600 --> 1:21:56.479 like me, And you know what the truth is, she doesn't. 1:21:56.960 --> 1:22:00.559 Really nobody since she's become captain is as good as 1:22:00.640 --> 1:22:03.640 she is, except maybe Rollin's. But like nobody, there's no 1:22:04.760 --> 1:22:08.240 there's no Stabler or Benson that has emerged in the 1:22:08.280 --> 1:22:11.080 new class. I'll say that I do love Kevin Kane's 1:22:11.120 --> 1:22:12.559 character and I want him to be made a full 1:22:12.560 --> 1:22:15.519 time cast member. He's like, uh, this guy goes, I 1:22:15.520 --> 1:22:17.439 got the hookups at one PP if you ever need 1:22:17.479 --> 1:22:19.360 a rabbi, and I think we've mentioned that before, but 1:22:19.360 --> 1:22:23.599 that is NYPD specific slang for a mentor, and she's like, 1:22:23.840 --> 1:22:26.439 I got Craigan and then he goes, you know it's 1:22:26.479 --> 1:22:29.080 gonna be different, right, And I was like, what, I 1:22:29.080 --> 1:22:30.840 don't I don't know, is it really different when Craigan 1:22:30.840 --> 1:22:31.280 comes back? 1:22:31.640 --> 1:22:33.080 Anyway, Right at that moment. 1:22:32.960 --> 1:22:38.080 She sorry, I know I'm behind, but it is also 1:22:38.320 --> 1:22:42.000 just so rich that the whole time it's like, you're 1:22:42.040 --> 1:22:44.240 a liar, You're a liar, You're a liar. 1:22:44.080 --> 1:22:45.599 And how easily it was proven. 1:22:45.720 --> 1:22:48.519 Nah, bitch, you're the liar, you know what I mean 1:22:48.600 --> 1:22:50.360 to the guy, like it was. 1:22:50.640 --> 1:22:53.400 Just such sweet justice. 1:22:54.840 --> 1:22:56.960 Yeah, like you thought you were gonna fucking get away 1:22:56.960 --> 1:22:59.200 with it. You thought you were gonna fucking get away 1:22:59.240 --> 1:23:02.519 with it. Yeah, acting like she was the pro as 1:23:02.560 --> 1:23:03.880 you fucking did that, fin. 1:23:03.960 --> 1:23:06.519 No, and a guy like this, there's no fucking way 1:23:06.560 --> 1:23:09.400 that it's just Jocelyn and these three interns, Like, there's 1:23:09.479 --> 1:23:13.439 no way, Like, but people don't come forward for powerful 1:23:13.439 --> 1:23:15.080 guys like this because they know he's gonna go on 1:23:15.120 --> 1:23:17.639 TV and do a fucking monologue and ruin their lives. 1:23:17.840 --> 1:23:21.040 Cause even the elevator that's bold, like everyone's you know, 1:23:21.160 --> 1:23:21.799 it's like at. 1:23:21.680 --> 1:23:24.160 A party, it's public, the doors can open at any moment. 1:23:24.200 --> 1:23:26.760 It is wild too that it's like, did they show 1:23:26.800 --> 1:23:29.000 that video to the jury? Like I'm sure they did, 1:23:29.120 --> 1:23:31.720 But it's like that, whether you agree to the night 1:23:31.760 --> 1:23:34.680 before or not, he clearly like shoves her in the elevator, 1:23:34.880 --> 1:23:37.200 and I don't know, but like Finn said, I guess 1:23:37.200 --> 1:23:40.080 she wasn't actively resisting. So maybe the jury needs to 1:23:40.080 --> 1:23:45.000 be handheld through exactly how victims react. But Benson's little 1:23:45.000 --> 1:23:48.400 convo with this sky Harris ends because she gets a 1:23:48.479 --> 1:23:50.160 text that the jury's in, and that's the last time 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:54.080 we see this Harris Man. The jury finds Adam Kane 1:23:54.240 --> 1:23:58.439 guilty of raping the first degree, and Barba SloMo turns 1:23:58.439 --> 1:24:00.559 and nods to Olivia and Olivia super Tan. 1:24:00.680 --> 1:24:02.000 I know they were talking about four the July. It 1:24:02.080 --> 1:24:02.679 must be summer. 1:24:02.760 --> 1:24:06.080 She is tanned, baby, and out on the court steps 1:24:06.080 --> 1:24:08.000 they're all chatting, and Barba's like, yeah, the jury just 1:24:08.040 --> 1:24:09.960 finally saw that sicko for who he really was. 1:24:10.040 --> 1:24:12.840 And Jocelin's like, like, what do I even do now? 1:24:12.920 --> 1:24:15.160 My rep is in the toilet, and Barbo goes, if 1:24:15.160 --> 1:24:18.000 there's one thing about America they love a comeback, and 1:24:18.040 --> 1:24:20.160 then Live gives her sort of like a sad look 1:24:20.320 --> 1:24:21.800 and like that's dick wolf baby. 1:24:22.200 --> 1:24:24.519 Well for men, they love it. For men, they love it. 1:24:24.600 --> 1:24:27.240 But we are being positive to Lindsay Lohan right now, 1:24:27.240 --> 1:24:29.920 But it's usually like the Robert Downey juniors. 1:24:29.640 --> 1:24:30.920 You know, like why own a rider? 1:24:31.400 --> 1:24:35.320 She stole from a couple stores and took years for 1:24:35.360 --> 1:24:38.800 her reputation. Yeah, Robert Downey Junior, I mean Rob low 1:24:38.880 --> 1:24:39.400 I think. 1:24:39.680 --> 1:24:41.560 Made a sex tape with a mind underage. 1:24:42.240 --> 1:24:45.880 Yeah, it's and we're like, god, yeah, I want to 1:24:45.880 --> 1:24:47.080 do Atkins because of him. 1:24:47.240 --> 1:24:49.040 You know, it's like it is why. 1:24:48.880 --> 1:24:54.719 I Josh Roland allegedly like assaulted Diane Lane and he's 1:24:54.800 --> 1:24:57.200 in fucking dune and hosting U S and L I 1:24:57.240 --> 1:25:01.080 mean truly, yes, we love a come back for men, 1:25:01.360 --> 1:25:04.400 but also for men's back. Kathy Griffin's back, she's torn 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:07.960 after seven I fucked up. I'm just adding to the 1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:10.479 list of positive women who have come back after year. 1:25:10.560 --> 1:25:13.960 Lindsay Lohan took over a decade, I know, you know 1:25:14.000 --> 1:25:16.640 what I mean. It's it is kind of wild how 1:25:16.680 --> 1:25:19.360 long it takes for women and the men. 1:25:19.400 --> 1:25:23.160 Maybe it takes a bit. But like Robert Downey Jr. 1:25:23.240 --> 1:25:23.920 I don't know how. 1:25:23.760 --> 1:25:26.599 He's likable at all. Is he actually worth it? Like, well, 1:25:26.600 --> 1:25:29.000 what has he done? He was just a drug addict, 1:25:29.040 --> 1:25:31.040 you know, good for him. I'm glad he's sober, but 1:25:31.240 --> 1:25:34.439 I hate his attitude. Oh really, Like this has nothing 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:38.200 to do with drug use, you know, sobriety's hard addictions. 1:25:38.240 --> 1:25:42.320 Hard drugs are fun. He's just smart. I hate him. 1:25:42.760 --> 1:25:45.320 He takes himself too seriously, Like anytime there's a joke 1:25:45.439 --> 1:25:46.360 or anything in an award. 1:25:46.439 --> 1:25:50.639 He's just so uppity. He's uppity. I don't like interesting. 1:25:50.840 --> 1:25:51.960 I met him one let me. 1:25:51.920 --> 1:25:54.360 Know if you guys are Robert Downey Junior heads. I 1:25:54.479 --> 1:25:57.200 from a distance really don't like him. I think he 1:25:57.320 --> 1:25:59.200 is iron Man without the fun suit. 1:25:59.400 --> 1:26:04.040 Like I don't think that's think anybody has to love RDJ. 1:26:04.320 --> 1:26:06.600 But I'm curious that the people who do. 1:26:06.680 --> 1:26:08.760 I'd like to know if I'm wrong that he's like 1:26:08.800 --> 1:26:10.000 a smarmy asshole. 1:26:10.400 --> 1:26:13.280 When I met that, he was nice when I met him, 1:26:13.360 --> 1:26:16.200 and he and his wife, he's very obsessed with his wife, 1:26:16.600 --> 1:26:18.840 so like I love that him and his wife are 1:26:18.920 --> 1:26:21.120 like a duo, like she's never not with him, Like 1:26:21.160 --> 1:26:22.160 they're very tight. 1:26:22.479 --> 1:26:24.320 Well, yeah, she's the one who got him sober, you 1:26:24.320 --> 1:26:26.559 know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she put 1:26:26.600 --> 1:26:27.240 in a lot of work. 1:26:27.400 --> 1:26:29.600 And I thought you would like that he thanked his 1:26:29.720 --> 1:26:31.280 stylist at the Oscars. 1:26:31.560 --> 1:26:32.240 I didn't see that. 1:26:32.800 --> 1:26:35.639 Nobody ever has done that. And he thanked his stylist, 1:26:35.760 --> 1:26:36.400 Erica Cloud. 1:26:36.479 --> 1:26:38.479 Yeah that's great. I think people have done that, but 1:26:38.520 --> 1:26:41.200 it is great that he's done that. Yeah, I think 1:26:41.200 --> 1:26:42.919 it was like no one had done it at the Oscars. 1:26:43.000 --> 1:26:45.040 Or something like that. Like as I read something about 1:26:45.080 --> 1:26:47.760 it that was like it was unprecedented for a stylist 1:26:47.800 --> 1:26:49.360 to be called out whatever, But. 1:26:49.439 --> 1:26:51.639 Yeah, people love that once iow got that attention from 1:26:51.640 --> 1:26:53.760 the assistance. I remember when Schumer won her Emmy, she 1:26:53.800 --> 1:26:56.360 brought up hair and makeup. So now everyone's like, hmm, 1:26:56.560 --> 1:26:59.479 what lower level in pat can I think? So everyone 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:03.760 thinks I'm really relatable and down to earth and I 1:27:03.840 --> 1:27:04.719 treat people NICs. 1:27:05.120 --> 1:27:07.400 Can I just give a shout out to Crafty please? 1:27:07.479 --> 1:27:12.479 Craft Services get up here. They've got like rice Chrispy treats. 1:27:12.479 --> 1:27:13.679 They're throwing them out to the audience. 1:27:14.520 --> 1:27:16.800 And thank you to my nanny. I could not have 1:27:16.920 --> 1:27:23.120 been here without your support. And hell, you know, all right. 1:27:22.880 --> 1:27:25.960 Well we're going to take a quick break and we'll 1:27:26.000 --> 1:27:29.120 be back with crime not even. 1:27:28.880 --> 1:27:32.120 A crime, not a crime. It's kind of nice. Well 1:27:32.160 --> 1:27:42.479 a crime. It is a crime, So this is a 1:27:42.560 --> 1:27:45.240 nice day for us. I'll be honest. You know, it's 1:27:45.360 --> 1:27:49.240 very rare that the episode is worse than the real crime. Yes, 1:27:49.520 --> 1:27:52.280 no one is trapped in a basement, no one's buried 1:27:52.360 --> 1:27:55.960 under concrete, no one's in a you know, a human 1:27:56.040 --> 1:28:01.240 trafficking ring. Trying to escape and it is just a 1:28:01.280 --> 1:28:02.200 little extortion. 1:28:02.760 --> 1:28:05.080 It's nice. It's really been nice. 1:28:05.280 --> 1:28:08.040 Also, Kara did mention fifty Shades of Gray, and that 1:28:08.080 --> 1:28:11.880 came out June twentieth, twenty eleven, and this episode came 1:28:11.880 --> 1:28:15.439 out October tenth, twenty twelve. Yeah, so just like the timing. 1:28:15.560 --> 1:28:17.559 But that book, you know, it was on the charts, 1:28:17.560 --> 1:28:20.599 I think for weeks. It was crazy. Everyone was talking 1:28:20.640 --> 1:28:23.000 about it and our society is so not into books. 1:28:23.000 --> 1:28:25.400 When I googled, like release date fifty Shades of Gray, 1:28:25.520 --> 1:28:28.960 it showed the movie immediately. I had to write book 1:28:29.720 --> 1:28:33.280 and to me, that's why this is the original but 1:28:33.320 --> 1:28:34.360 the but whatever. 1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:37.360 It just also I think says a lot about like 1:28:37.360 --> 1:28:40.360 like how sort of puritanical we are and repressed as 1:28:40.360 --> 1:28:43.200 a society that like this book about like I don't know, 1:28:43.240 --> 1:28:45.640 he ties her up and stuff. Everybody's like, ooh, I 1:28:45.720 --> 1:28:47.960 read it in the bath when my kids are in bed, 1:28:48.080 --> 1:28:48.640 like and all that. 1:28:48.760 --> 1:28:48.960 You know. 1:28:49.040 --> 1:28:52.160 It was like so like, but I want everyone to 1:28:52.160 --> 1:28:54.439 be in touch with their sexuality, of course, but I 1:28:54.479 --> 1:28:57.559 just wish we were in general, and it wasn't like 1:28:58.120 --> 1:29:00.559 this sort of like shittily written fan had to bring 1:29:00.560 --> 1:29:02.320 everybody out of their sexual shells. 1:29:02.640 --> 1:29:06.040 Yeah, but you know it was a nice way for 1:29:06.120 --> 1:29:07.360 the elders to get involved. 1:29:07.400 --> 1:29:09.680 And hey, it brought me Book Club, which you know 1:29:09.800 --> 1:29:14.080 is one of my favorite movies and franchises, so I'm 1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:15.080 happy for it. 1:29:15.280 --> 1:29:15.519 Yeah. 1:29:15.560 --> 1:29:18.280 And so this and they mentioned his name in the episode, 1:29:18.400 --> 1:29:22.360 is about David Letterman and this guy, Joe Halderman. 1:29:23.080 --> 1:29:25.320 And this story has everything. 1:29:25.439 --> 1:29:31.360 There's jealousy, extortion, cheating on air, apologies, pretty fun. Vanity 1:29:31.400 --> 1:29:37.000 Fair called it an explosive triangle Burkett's ambition, Halderman's bitterness, 1:29:37.000 --> 1:29:40.759 and Letterman's self loathing. So thank you for that drama, 1:29:40.920 --> 1:29:45.280 Vanity Fair and Burkett. It's Stephanie Burkett. We'll get into that. So, 1:29:45.479 --> 1:29:47.920 David Letterman, if you don't know, look it up. I mean, 1:29:47.920 --> 1:29:49.880 what are we talking about here? A legend? Yeah, I 1:29:49.960 --> 1:29:52.880 was a Leno girl famously, and I apologize, but. 1:29:53.080 --> 1:29:55.519 I never really was into anybody late night. But I 1:29:55.640 --> 1:29:58.799 used to read those top ten list books and crack 1:29:59.000 --> 1:30:01.559 my little eleven year old ass up, Like I thought 1:30:01.600 --> 1:30:04.880 the Top ten was the funniest thing ever. And if 1:30:04.920 --> 1:30:06.479 I would be at somebody's house that had them, I'd 1:30:06.520 --> 1:30:07.760 just be like I'm not talking to anyone, and I 1:30:07.760 --> 1:30:09.559 would just be like reading those I. 1:30:09.560 --> 1:30:12.639 Loved them, and he has beloved I was he won 1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:15.160 the rating, like he was the top dog in terms 1:30:15.200 --> 1:30:17.679 of ratings, and I think like respect and some people 1:30:17.720 --> 1:30:18.320 love Letterman. 1:30:18.479 --> 1:30:21.040 I think also what I love about Letterman is like 1:30:21.120 --> 1:30:23.639 he did kind of tease people a little bit. It's 1:30:23.680 --> 1:30:26.200 like now you know, now there's like a thing where 1:30:26.200 --> 1:30:28.960 people talk about like prom king comedy with a lot of. 1:30:28.880 --> 1:30:31.160 The talk show hosts. They're just like, I can't believe 1:30:31.160 --> 1:30:31.760 I'm meeting you. 1:30:31.840 --> 1:30:34.400 This is so cool, You're so awesome, and like it 1:30:34.479 --> 1:30:36.320 used to be Letterman being like what's this all about? 1:30:36.400 --> 1:30:38.599 You know, like being a little bit more Carson, like 1:30:38.680 --> 1:30:41.679 I think in the teasing and having like a rapport 1:30:41.720 --> 1:30:44.799 with the famous people like didn't Lady Gaga and Letterman 1:30:44.880 --> 1:30:47.120 like famously like really hit it off and like love 1:30:47.200 --> 1:30:48.559 to like rip each other and stuff. 1:30:48.960 --> 1:30:51.320 Maybe I have no idea, No, it could. It could 1:30:51.479 --> 1:30:51.960 very well be. 1:30:52.240 --> 1:30:54.840 He had a lot like whaty Harrelson, We'll talk about later, 1:30:54.880 --> 1:30:55.519 Like he's been on it. 1:30:55.600 --> 1:30:58.040 I think it's twenty like hundreds of times or something. 1:30:58.160 --> 1:31:00.879 Oh wow, Like he has guests that come on dozens 1:31:00.880 --> 1:31:01.519 of times. 1:31:01.600 --> 1:31:04.879 He really does. Can you are you googling most frequent guests? 1:31:04.960 --> 1:31:09.440 Oh no, I was googling Gaga Letterman. Oh I'm curious 1:31:09.600 --> 1:31:10.760 who the guests. 1:31:10.520 --> 1:31:14.360 Regis Philbin It says one hundred and fifty total appearances. 1:31:15.160 --> 1:31:16.919 Oh, he loves Julia Roberts. 1:31:17.479 --> 1:31:23.519 That's that's one that he loves, Robin Williams, Tom Hank Yeah, people, Oh, 1:31:23.560 --> 1:31:25.400 Amy Darris, who doesn't love her? 1:31:26.720 --> 1:31:26.800 So? 1:31:27.320 --> 1:31:30.280 Oh Howard Stern but like Cher called him an asshole, 1:31:30.720 --> 1:31:34.200 and just famous moments. You know, the titties, Drew Barrymore's 1:31:34.240 --> 1:31:37.720 titty is on the desk, you know Madonna, there's just 1:31:38.040 --> 1:31:40.920 he Yeah, he had something. I was unfortunately on the 1:31:41.000 --> 1:31:44.120 NBC side. But he has loved and you've been living 1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:46.280 under concrete if you do not. I have never heard 1:31:46.320 --> 1:31:49.599 of David Letterman. Or maybe you're young, maybe you like Conan. Okay, 1:31:49.720 --> 1:31:51.240 so what does he do now? 1:31:51.360 --> 1:31:54.320 He has like Netflix shit where he interviews people, right, 1:31:54.800 --> 1:31:56.120 and he's got a big ass beard. 1:31:56.400 --> 1:31:58.920 Oh and I'm sorry to bury the lead. David Letterman 1:31:58.960 --> 1:31:59.599 lives in my town. 1:31:59.760 --> 1:32:01.800 Oh okay, So I passed his house all the time 1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:03.320 and we would see him driving. He did not have 1:32:03.360 --> 1:32:05.639 a good reputation in our town. Though he would turn 1:32:05.640 --> 1:32:08.120 off his lights on Halloween, no trigger treaders. He would 1:32:08.120 --> 1:32:10.599 like drive his car kind of like fast through town, 1:32:10.720 --> 1:32:12.639 like not really talk to people, Like he didn't really 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:13.920 have a great rep in New Canaan. 1:32:14.080 --> 1:32:16.639 Well, after doing some research on this, and I'm not 1:32:16.720 --> 1:32:18.760 diving into it at all, but he's had a lot 1:32:18.800 --> 1:32:19.840 of crazy stalkers. 1:32:20.000 --> 1:32:22.200 Okay, well, I guess that makes makes sense. 1:32:22.520 --> 1:32:25.479 A lot of stalkers showing like camping out on his 1:32:25.560 --> 1:32:28.280 tennis courts, like he lives on well, now he's I 1:32:28.280 --> 1:32:31.479 think in Westchester or something because on a golf like. 1:32:32.040 --> 1:32:33.720 Yeah, he may have moved. He may have moved. He 1:32:33.920 --> 1:32:36.000 he had a house where I when I grew up. 1:32:36.000 --> 1:32:38.760 He was also had a house in Saint Barts. I mean, 1:32:38.760 --> 1:32:41.400 this motherfucker's rich. Like I didn't realize how rich he was. 1:32:41.760 --> 1:32:44.960 He has like five or six houses a Tribeca loft. 1:32:45.640 --> 1:32:49.280 But he did have a lot of obsessed, weird fans, 1:32:49.320 --> 1:32:51.720 and I actually think we forget about that with all celebrities, 1:32:52.520 --> 1:32:57.000 Like the amount of stalkers and obsessed people that probably 1:32:57.520 --> 1:32:59.360 try to get to them that we don't know about 1:32:59.560 --> 1:33:01.280 is astronomical. 1:33:01.320 --> 1:33:01.920 As my guess. 1:33:02.000 --> 1:33:03.679 Yeah, there was a lady that tried to break into 1:33:03.680 --> 1:33:05.600 his house to New Canaan, and they booked her on 1:33:05.720 --> 1:33:08.200 my family friend's lawn because they like wanted to get 1:33:08.240 --> 1:33:10.200 her off the property. My family friend that I used 1:33:10.240 --> 1:33:12.080 to babysit for it live right across the street. 1:33:12.320 --> 1:33:13.479 Oh my god. 1:33:13.680 --> 1:33:17.120 Yeah, his house wasn't very attractive either, but I think 1:33:17.160 --> 1:33:20.040 it was like I think he probably liked how it 1:33:20.120 --> 1:33:21.960 was like not a ton of windows. It was like 1:33:22.040 --> 1:33:24.240 it was it looked like the back of the house 1:33:24.320 --> 1:33:25.439 was the front of the house, do you know what 1:33:25.479 --> 1:33:27.559 I mean. So I think he kind of probably what 1:33:27.600 --> 1:33:29.400 you're saying makes sense. He did have like a lot 1:33:29.400 --> 1:33:30.360 of famous stalkers. 1:33:30.520 --> 1:33:32.880 Yeah, and a lot of what I was reading about 1:33:32.920 --> 1:33:35.680 him is like, like I mentioned this self loathing, like 1:33:36.040 --> 1:33:38.599 he had low self esteem and hated himself and stuff 1:33:38.640 --> 1:33:40.559 like that. Like I guess he was some kind of weirdo. 1:33:40.720 --> 1:33:43.080 But you know, he has a lot of homes and 1:33:43.240 --> 1:33:47.479 is still working to this day. Okay, Joe Helderman, this guy, 1:33:47.560 --> 1:33:50.040 you know, he's not some gremlin stalker that I'm talking 1:33:50.040 --> 1:33:53.200 about from the depths of the swamp coming up. Actually 1:33:53.200 --> 1:33:55.560 a respected guy at CBS he was a producer in 1:33:55.680 --> 1:33:59.120 forty eight hours. He won eight Emmys, you know, and 1:33:59.160 --> 1:34:00.800 the one of our said he had a lot of 1:34:00.840 --> 1:34:03.559 baggage and they put these together, which was really funny. 1:34:03.800 --> 1:34:05.880 Spent a lot of time working in war zone and 1:34:05.920 --> 1:34:09.519 two divorces which meant huge alimony payments. And I just 1:34:09.600 --> 1:34:10.920 loved that thought was put together. 1:34:11.760 --> 1:34:14.160 That's his baggage, war zones and alimony. 1:34:15.040 --> 1:34:21.360 Yeah, but he had covered conflicts in eighty six countries. 1:34:21.880 --> 1:34:24.840 He worked with Dan Rather a bunch, and he was 1:34:25.520 --> 1:34:27.439 he was really known to be the guy like he 1:34:27.520 --> 1:34:30.160 was there for the Saddam Hussein interview and stuff like, 1:34:31.080 --> 1:34:34.280 you know, really good. But April nineteenth, nineteen ninety six, 1:34:34.360 --> 1:34:37.240 he had hit his limit doing like all these wild 1:34:37.360 --> 1:34:40.640 news things and went to forty eight hours. So I apologize, 1:34:40.640 --> 1:34:42.800 I said, at forty eight hours ahead of time. So 1:34:43.520 --> 1:34:47.080 he was doing hard hitting news Dan Rather, war zones, 1:34:47.120 --> 1:34:50.920 running around and one time he got really scared and 1:34:50.960 --> 1:34:54.000 he goes, once you're scared, you gotta get out. Yeah, 1:34:54.040 --> 1:34:55.840 And so he got out and got like a more 1:34:55.880 --> 1:35:00.439 consistent job at forty eight hours at CBS. And basically 1:35:00.560 --> 1:35:02.360 what he did was he tried to get Letterman to 1:35:02.400 --> 1:35:06.240 pay him millions of dollars in exchange for not writing 1:35:06.280 --> 1:35:10.439 about the late night host's sexual affairs. I don't know, 1:35:10.960 --> 1:35:15.519 we'll see. So the affair was with the late show staffer, 1:35:16.040 --> 1:35:19.920 so Stephanie Brickett. She was David Letterman's assistant and also 1:35:19.960 --> 1:35:22.280 appeared on the show as a ton of characters and 1:35:22.360 --> 1:35:26.679 as his assistant. And people loved their dynamic. They fucking 1:35:26.800 --> 1:35:29.800 loved it. And I guess the whole thing that he 1:35:29.920 --> 1:35:31.680 was smitten by was she gave it back to him 1:35:31.680 --> 1:35:32.519 like she didn't give a shit. 1:35:32.640 --> 1:35:33.439 She was mean to him. 1:35:33.479 --> 1:35:37.960 And she started as a writer's room intern, and then 1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:41.719 after graduating college, she got a low level CBS job, 1:35:41.760 --> 1:35:45.000 splitting her duties between the Late Show and forty eight 1:35:45.040 --> 1:35:48.920 hours Hello, And at forty eight hours she had met Joe, 1:35:48.960 --> 1:35:51.360 who was seventeen years older than her and a producer, 1:35:52.200 --> 1:35:55.400 and in that stint they did start dating. So she 1:35:55.560 --> 1:35:58.799 is dating and now living with this man, but hated 1:35:58.960 --> 1:36:01.479 working at forty eight hours. She missed the late show, 1:36:01.760 --> 1:36:04.280 so in two thousand and four she got this assistant 1:36:04.360 --> 1:36:06.120 job to be with him. So she was an intern 1:36:06.160 --> 1:36:10.000 throughout college and then after college was an assistant and 1:36:10.040 --> 1:36:12.800 she ended up appearing in over two hundred and fifty episodes, 1:36:13.560 --> 1:36:15.479 and she was in law school during the same time, 1:36:15.640 --> 1:36:17.960 and her tuition for law school was paid by a 1:36:18.000 --> 1:36:21.719 loan from the Letterman's company. Her and Joe were dating 1:36:21.880 --> 1:36:24.639 and living together, like I said, but Letterman definitely had 1:36:24.800 --> 1:36:27.680 a lot of chemistry with her on television, and she 1:36:28.400 --> 1:36:30.720 is quoted saying Dave is truly the greatest boss I 1:36:30.760 --> 1:36:31.519 could ever have. 1:36:31.960 --> 1:36:33.280 And that was in Vanity Fair. 1:36:34.240 --> 1:36:36.439 So Joe's point of view, and this is told to 1:36:36.479 --> 1:36:39.840 a friend of his and a colleague named Bob Arnott Arno. 1:36:40.080 --> 1:36:41.240 I don't know, do you know who this is? 1:36:41.360 --> 1:36:44.679 No, but I think it would be Arno, probably Arno, really, 1:36:45.240 --> 1:36:48.200 that's wild French maybe. 1:36:48.240 --> 1:36:50.800 And then sometimes they say he's a doctor, sometimes not. 1:36:50.920 --> 1:36:52.439 I'm not putting it in front of his name. You 1:36:52.439 --> 1:36:54.000 need to prove it to me. I don't know who 1:36:54.000 --> 1:36:56.640 you are. But this motherfucker was out there chatting. He 1:36:56.800 --> 1:37:00.639 is like such a gossip. So this is a Joe 1:37:00.640 --> 1:37:02.919 told his friend, and his friend went on Good Morning America, 1:37:03.000 --> 1:37:05.439 you know what I mean, and Vanity Fair and told it. 1:37:05.560 --> 1:37:07.880 So we have to take this point of view with 1:37:07.920 --> 1:37:11.120 a grain of salt because it's from this guy. But 1:37:11.200 --> 1:37:14.760 basically what Bob said was he found a diary of 1:37:14.800 --> 1:37:16.720 his girl friend at the end of two thousand and eight, 1:37:17.080 --> 1:37:19.760 and it indicated that Stephanie was very much still going 1:37:19.760 --> 1:37:23.040 out with Letterman in a serious way, and it just 1:37:23.080 --> 1:37:25.719 made him mad because he had knew before she said 1:37:25.720 --> 1:37:28.720 she would stop whatever. According to Bob, Stephanie would have 1:37:28.760 --> 1:37:30.880 a lot of late night trysts with him in the 1:37:30.920 --> 1:37:34.320 office in the Tribeca loft that I mentioned. They would 1:37:34.320 --> 1:37:36.559 go to trips with other staff members, like to the 1:37:36.560 --> 1:37:40.120 Indy five hundred, his ranch in Montana, his home in 1:37:40.240 --> 1:37:43.479 Saint Bart's, so many houses, and the kicker is sometimes 1:37:43.560 --> 1:37:44.200 Dave's wife was. 1:37:44.200 --> 1:37:47.360 On these trips as well. Ooh fuck. So they would 1:37:47.400 --> 1:37:49.679 go on these trips. She was just all around town. 1:37:49.800 --> 1:37:52.439 So he did confront her after reading the diary and 1:37:52.600 --> 1:37:55.800 was like, why are you And so she promised to 1:37:55.880 --> 1:37:58.000 end the fair and convinced him not to break up 1:37:58.000 --> 1:38:01.720 with her. Then August two thousand nine, this guy Joe 1:38:01.760 --> 1:38:04.680 sees the two of them embrace and he didn't like 1:38:04.720 --> 1:38:08.559 it and it just pissed him off. So basically, like 1:38:09.400 --> 1:38:14.080 Dave gave a ride home to Brittany and in a 1:38:14.200 --> 1:38:16.360 Tesla and this is oh nine, so this is like 1:38:16.479 --> 1:38:20.400 Tesla's were different. What Yeah, it was an electric Tesla 1:38:20.680 --> 1:38:25.680 one hundred thousand dollars plus car. And he drove to Norwalk, Connecticut, 1:38:25.800 --> 1:38:28.800 to his house, to Joe's house to drop off Stephanie. 1:38:29.320 --> 1:38:31.960 And it's like, your boss is driving you all the 1:38:32.000 --> 1:38:34.040 way to Connecticut because at this time he was living 1:38:34.080 --> 1:38:36.800 in Westchester, it said, but maybe not, maybe he was 1:38:36.840 --> 1:38:39.920 still in Connecticut where you were from. But whatever, So 1:38:41.240 --> 1:38:45.840 he dropped her off. Joe sees this, he's enraged and 1:38:46.160 --> 1:38:47.000 that's the hearsay. 1:38:47.080 --> 1:38:49.200 So that's like what got him pissed. 1:38:49.600 --> 1:38:52.920 So then September ninth, two thousand and nine, he goes 1:38:53.080 --> 1:38:57.120 and gives David Letterman's driver a sealed envelope that's waiting 1:38:57.120 --> 1:39:00.519 outside of Letterman's Manhattan home and he said, give this 1:39:00.680 --> 1:39:04.800 to Letterman and it's marked privileged and confidential, which is 1:39:04.880 --> 1:39:06.760 funny because why would you write that so big on 1:39:06.800 --> 1:39:10.120 a thing, Like if it's a secret, it should say 1:39:10.160 --> 1:39:12.120 like bills on it, you know what I mean. Like 1:39:12.200 --> 1:39:15.960 it's so funny, but also who is this driver that 1:39:16.000 --> 1:39:17.559 would give it to I'd be like, get the fuck 1:39:17.600 --> 1:39:19.600 out of here. Like, where is security? Like this is 1:39:19.640 --> 1:39:22.840 why he was unfriendly, I think. And in this envelope 1:39:23.400 --> 1:39:28.360 there were demands for meetings and extortion details and basically 1:39:28.680 --> 1:39:32.720 evidence as well of him having this affair with Stephanie 1:39:33.080 --> 1:39:36.559 and this guy Joe says, I am going to write 1:39:36.560 --> 1:39:40.040 a screenplay and a book about you, and I have evidence, 1:39:40.160 --> 1:39:42.719 and in the envelope all this evidence from the affair. 1:39:43.479 --> 1:39:45.800 So he gets, you know, a little nervous. So they 1:39:45.880 --> 1:39:48.240 start having meetings with the lawyers to work out the 1:39:48.280 --> 1:39:51.439 extortion details. And I learned that this actually happens a 1:39:51.439 --> 1:39:54.760 lot to celebrities that they settle out of court and 1:39:55.320 --> 1:39:58.320 are constantly settling and being okay with blackmail because they're 1:39:58.360 --> 1:40:01.599 all sickos. So I guess it's really common for this 1:40:01.680 --> 1:40:04.599 to happen. So the lawyers are working out the extortion details, 1:40:04.640 --> 1:40:08.280 a few meetings are happening, So then David Letterman doesn't 1:40:08.360 --> 1:40:10.880 love this right, so then he reaches out to the 1:40:10.880 --> 1:40:15.439 Manhattan District Attorney's office and they go, yeah, bro, this 1:40:15.520 --> 1:40:18.360 is this is extortion in blackmail. This is illegal, Like 1:40:18.400 --> 1:40:19.720 we need to get to it. 1:40:20.120 --> 1:40:21.040 And I wonder if. 1:40:20.880 --> 1:40:23.120 This would be the service you would get if you 1:40:23.120 --> 1:40:26.760 were anybody, but like, Letterman is so beloved, so they 1:40:26.800 --> 1:40:30.439 really got move in on this. And Joe had demanded 1:40:30.439 --> 1:40:33.719 a two million dollar check to keep all of this secret, 1:40:34.080 --> 1:40:37.000 so the mat Manhattan District Attorney's office hands him like 1:40:37.040 --> 1:40:40.680 a fake two million dollar check. Joe goes deposits the 1:40:40.760 --> 1:40:44.240 check in October and he was arrested the next day, released, 1:40:44.280 --> 1:40:46.280 of course, on bail two hundred thousand dollars. 1:40:46.479 --> 1:40:47.839 So October first, two. 1:40:47.640 --> 1:40:50.680 Thousand and nine is when Letterman goes on Late Night. 1:40:50.800 --> 1:40:53.960 I remember this moment and he kind of like confesses 1:40:54.000 --> 1:40:55.400 all of this, and I think that's the only thing 1:40:55.400 --> 1:40:59.639 the episode took from Letterman is that on air thing, 1:40:59.680 --> 1:41:05.599 because there was no belts, there's no rate but years 1:41:05.840 --> 1:41:08.320 coming out and even now in the future, you know, 1:41:08.400 --> 1:41:12.160 with me too and different powers and hooking up with 1:41:12.240 --> 1:41:13.920 bosses and interns and all of that. 1:41:14.240 --> 1:41:18.439 So yeah, there is a lot of ethical stuff. I 1:41:18.479 --> 1:41:21.800 remember this too, though. I remember this him going on TV. 1:41:22.000 --> 1:41:23.160 So what do you remember. 1:41:23.520 --> 1:41:25.920 I just remember being like, this is so weird, how 1:41:25.960 --> 1:41:26.840 somber he is. 1:41:26.880 --> 1:41:31.320 What year is it. It's two thousand and nine. Yeah, 1:41:31.360 --> 1:41:32.240 I don't remember. 1:41:33.160 --> 1:41:35.840 I probably was reading about it on fucking blogs. And 1:41:35.880 --> 1:41:38.240 shit because it was like Perez Hilton Times of twenty 1:41:38.240 --> 1:41:41.240 four hour news cycle and a celebrity gossip Like I 1:41:41.400 --> 1:41:44.880 probably was like, but I just remember him being so 1:41:44.880 --> 1:41:47.000 somber and being like this is weird, Like this isn't 1:41:47.040 --> 1:41:48.599 normally how you see David letter. 1:41:48.560 --> 1:41:51.800 Right, he was doing bits and the crowd still kept 1:41:51.880 --> 1:41:54.840 laughing and clapping because they didn't understand. So I did 1:41:54.880 --> 1:41:58.639 watch it, and he had guests after, which was shocking 1:41:58.720 --> 1:42:01.960 to me, Like what ay Harrold sitting Kim Kardashian, we're guests. 1:42:03.479 --> 1:42:05.040 I kept figuring it out, like did he do it 1:42:05.080 --> 1:42:07.200 at the end? How did he continue the show? Like 1:42:07.240 --> 1:42:10.240 what's going on? But they love him. The audience loved him, 1:42:10.280 --> 1:42:14.160 like it was wild to watch. So this is the 1:42:14.160 --> 1:42:15.800 only thing we can talk And like a lot of 1:42:15.880 --> 1:42:18.599 videos have come out about Letterman recently where like he's 1:42:18.640 --> 1:42:21.479 grabbing and being inappropriate with the female guests and bringing 1:42:21.560 --> 1:42:24.800 them in and like kind of being touchy and was 1:42:24.800 --> 1:42:27.759 he having sex with tons of the interns and what 1:42:27.840 --> 1:42:32.160 was going on? There's actually comedy a comedian with rumors 1:42:32.400 --> 1:42:37.120 about like having a job there and that they were 1:42:37.120 --> 1:42:40.160 hooking up and that's the reason that they got promoted 1:42:40.520 --> 1:42:40.800 you know who. 1:42:40.800 --> 1:42:42.680 I'm sorry, Yeah, of course you do. 1:42:43.400 --> 1:42:45.719 And I've talked to this person about it and stuff, 1:42:45.800 --> 1:42:49.280 but you know, there was kind of a reputation where 1:42:49.840 --> 1:42:50.920 if you fuck Dave. 1:42:50.800 --> 1:42:51.720 You got promotions. 1:42:52.000 --> 1:42:55.200 So you know, we can talk about like ethical implications 1:42:55.200 --> 1:42:57.879 and stuff. But this episode we watched is so horrific 1:42:57.920 --> 1:43:02.120 and I just feel isn't that? So he told the 1:43:02.200 --> 1:43:04.400 Late Night Show on October first that he had sexual 1:43:04.439 --> 1:43:07.719 relationships with female members of his staff. He talked about 1:43:07.720 --> 1:43:11.160 the extortion, the two million dollar check, and the story 1:43:11.240 --> 1:43:13.400 started out with He's like, listen, I have a story 1:43:13.400 --> 1:43:15.160 to tell you. I had to go downtown today and 1:43:15.200 --> 1:43:18.120 testify in a grand jury. I have received a package. 1:43:18.160 --> 1:43:21.360 Three weeks ago. There was a threat and ABC News 1:43:21.400 --> 1:43:24.120 is like the audiences were waiting for a punchline, but 1:43:24.160 --> 1:43:26.600 it didn't truly come, and it was just so detailed 1:43:26.640 --> 1:43:28.360 with everything and setting up the meeting. 1:43:28.680 --> 1:43:30.040 He really like milked it. 1:43:30.120 --> 1:43:32.640 So he talked for eight minutes before he brought up 1:43:32.680 --> 1:43:36.320 the affair. So for eight minutes he's just setting the 1:43:36.360 --> 1:43:41.280 scene of the blackmail, the process, the extortion, that they 1:43:41.280 --> 1:43:44.160 have evidence of dirty things that he's doing, and they're. 1:43:44.000 --> 1:43:47.160 All laughing, they're clapping like it is. 1:43:47.880 --> 1:43:50.280 You know, they have awkward moments, but they're still in 1:43:50.360 --> 1:43:51.280 it because it's David. 1:43:51.560 --> 1:43:53.040 You know, they're excited to be there. 1:43:53.280 --> 1:43:55.400 I must not have watched the whole thing because I 1:43:55.439 --> 1:43:58.479 remember just him being like, you know, but I don't 1:43:58.479 --> 1:44:00.960 think I watched an eight minute Joe okafon. 1:44:02.040 --> 1:44:04.760 And even after he confessed, there were bits. I mean, 1:44:04.840 --> 1:44:08.400 he got an applaud break. He straight up said I 1:44:08.560 --> 1:44:12.320 had sex with staff and there was an applaud break it. 1:44:12.680 --> 1:44:13.799 It really was wild. 1:44:13.840 --> 1:44:16.000 So, like I said, there was guys, I did watch it, 1:44:16.040 --> 1:44:18.800 but the first state minutes, yeah about the DA the envelopes, 1:44:18.840 --> 1:44:21.640 all the dark shit, and then he does say, I 1:44:21.680 --> 1:44:24.400 straight up I did it, and he said it would 1:44:24.479 --> 1:44:27.120 be embarrassing if it were made public, perhaps it would 1:44:27.439 --> 1:44:28.599 especially for the women. 1:44:29.200 --> 1:44:33.439 And so people loved that joke. I can't believe it. 1:44:33.520 --> 1:44:35.960 Wow, yeah, you show it's like nine minutes in like 1:44:36.040 --> 1:44:39.480 fifty seconds and at the end he goes Woody Harrelson 1:44:39.560 --> 1:44:42.799 coming up next. I mean, it is wild, but there 1:44:42.840 --> 1:44:47.799 there were bits and confusion, absolutely, and. 1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:48.519 And it continued for days. 1:44:48.520 --> 1:44:50.519 You know, that was like on a Monday, and he 1:44:50.640 --> 1:44:53.200 was making jokes Throughout the week, like October fifth, two 1:44:53.200 --> 1:44:56.120 thousand and nine, he did a joke about the weather, saying, 1:44:56.160 --> 1:44:59.240 if you're starting to feel the chili fall weather, take 1:44:59.280 --> 1:45:01.800 heart that it is far far chiller in the in 1:45:01.880 --> 1:45:03.120 his home, What. 1:45:04.760 --> 1:45:06.599 Far chiller in my or something like that. 1:45:07.120 --> 1:45:10.479 The audience is sympathetic to him, and I guess. Throughout 1:45:10.479 --> 1:45:12.160 the week he also made nods of how he's like 1:45:12.240 --> 1:45:15.080 bash Bill Clinton and the Spitz, you know, Elliott Spitzer 1:45:15.120 --> 1:45:17.599 and all these guys, and how now it's him. And 1:45:17.640 --> 1:45:19.720 on the next Monday he comes in and he did 1:45:19.720 --> 1:45:22.400 a joke about, oh, this weekend, I was raking it, 1:45:22.760 --> 1:45:26.200 raking my hate mail, shit like that. And he also 1:45:26.360 --> 1:45:28.880 he did take stuff seriously. He apologized to the staff. 1:45:29.280 --> 1:45:32.519 He talks about how horrible it was and how how 1:45:32.600 --> 1:45:34.840 hurt his wife was and how it's you know, mean 1:45:35.320 --> 1:45:38.360 to her. And the wild thing is, so they've been 1:45:38.360 --> 1:45:41.280 together since nineteen eighty six, him and his long term girlfriend. 1:45:41.680 --> 1:45:45.320 They did not get married till March two thousand and nine. Wow, 1:45:45.760 --> 1:45:49.120 and then this all happened October two thousand and nine. 1:45:50.360 --> 1:45:50.880 Wow. 1:45:51.040 --> 1:45:53.559 So it's like, why I don't understand you've been not 1:45:53.680 --> 1:45:55.960 married this whole time? Why would you get married at 1:45:55.960 --> 1:45:58.040 this moment and then do like I know he didn't 1:45:58.040 --> 1:46:01.519 think he would get extorted, but it's just confusing. You 1:46:01.560 --> 1:46:05.600 were together for since nineteen eighty six. Just do the 1:46:05.680 --> 1:46:09.080 Kurt rustle of it all with Goldie, you know? So, 1:46:10.120 --> 1:46:13.040 Like I said, it's cheating and their adults, but also 1:46:13.360 --> 1:46:17.879 relationship between bosses and employees worldwide. Pants the production company 1:46:18.040 --> 1:46:20.240 did put out a statement that Stephanie was put on 1:46:20.400 --> 1:46:23.880 paid leave when this all went down, so I guess 1:46:23.880 --> 1:46:26.000 that's good. In one of the articles I read, there's 1:46:26.520 --> 1:46:29.960 the author of this book called Officemate, Your Employee Handbook 1:46:30.000 --> 1:46:33.160 for Romance on the Job. She's like, listen, you know, 1:46:33.320 --> 1:46:35.680 obviously don't do it, but in quotes, we're in no 1:46:35.720 --> 1:46:38.720 position to tell people what to do with their hearts. 1:46:39.280 --> 1:46:40.600 I don't know why I wrote that and thought it 1:46:40.640 --> 1:46:42.360 was important. I just I liked it. 1:46:42.760 --> 1:46:44.920 And it goes on to say that the host did 1:46:44.960 --> 1:46:48.200 foster a vibe of workplace sexual misconduct. Like I said, 1:46:48.240 --> 1:46:51.640 women who had sex with him did have better opportunities. Allegedly, 1:46:52.200 --> 1:46:54.960 I feel dangerous talking about any of this. And he 1:46:55.000 --> 1:46:57.599 did the rigamaroles. He sat down with Oprah with his 1:46:57.640 --> 1:46:59.880 friend regis, you know what I mean, Like he made 1:46:59.880 --> 1:47:00.400 the rounds. 1:47:00.439 --> 1:47:03.800 This was everywhere, Now Joe, what happened to Joe? 1:47:04.240 --> 1:47:06.680 So at first he pled not guilty, but he was 1:47:06.720 --> 1:47:10.439 facing fifteen years for extortion. And you know, there was 1:47:10.600 --> 1:47:15.480 so much media attention from October until like the final sentencing. 1:47:15.520 --> 1:47:18.439 There was months of so much in the media. So 1:47:18.479 --> 1:47:22.439 he ended up actually pleading guilty to attempted grand larceny. 1:47:22.960 --> 1:47:25.240 His lawyer said to CBS News that the scheme was 1:47:25.280 --> 1:47:28.960 fueled by both financial problems and romantic jealousy after reading 1:47:29.439 --> 1:47:33.200 that damn diary, but don't go through people's things. And 1:47:33.200 --> 1:47:35.919 then his lawyer also said that the Manhattan District Attorney, 1:47:36.200 --> 1:47:41.040 Robert Morgentho, has embraced Letterman's story and that he got 1:47:41.080 --> 1:47:44.439 to make his points on national television and again going 1:47:44.479 --> 1:47:46.240 back to the episode, like that's pretty not fair. 1:47:46.760 --> 1:47:49.040 You get to just chat to America. 1:47:49.479 --> 1:47:52.880 And so he began his prison sentence met in May 1:47:53.360 --> 1:47:57.439 of two thousand and ten. He served four months of 1:47:57.439 --> 1:48:01.479 his six month Sentenceman did not appear in court at all, 1:48:01.720 --> 1:48:04.719 and also the deal included four and a half years probation, 1:48:05.240 --> 1:48:08.960 a thousand hours of community service, and five hundred of 1:48:09.000 --> 1:48:11.920 those hours will be in a Connecticut homeless shelter. And 1:48:12.080 --> 1:48:14.680 I guess thank you ABC News for that detail. And 1:48:14.720 --> 1:48:17.160 he was at Rikers. Okay, so he got out for 1:48:17.200 --> 1:48:20.160 good behavior. But after Joe went to jail, he got 1:48:20.200 --> 1:48:23.679 a new job and there was like there was press everywhere. 1:48:23.800 --> 1:48:27.439 He got a job with Investigation Discoveries, show Case with 1:48:27.520 --> 1:48:31.240 Paula's on. It was you know, news, and he's still working. 1:48:31.280 --> 1:48:34.680 I mean, he has eight Emmys. So I don't know. 1:48:34.800 --> 1:48:39.200 And of course Letterman's popularity unscathed. Maybe an emotional blow, 1:48:39.320 --> 1:48:41.559 but like everyone loves him to this day. I barely 1:48:41.560 --> 1:48:43.680 think of no one thinks about this. I don't that. 1:48:43.760 --> 1:48:45.080 I you know, I don't. 1:48:45.120 --> 1:48:46.800 I have not talking about people remember this. 1:48:47.040 --> 1:48:51.680 Yeah, and Stephanie, you can't find any of her appearances 1:48:51.720 --> 1:48:55.879 on the internet. Her segments have been scrubbed from the history, unwritten, 1:48:56.280 --> 1:48:59.360 like unwritten from the show's history. There was one was 1:48:59.400 --> 1:49:02.160 it Vanity Washington Post. There was some sort of an 1:49:02.200 --> 1:49:06.040 opinion piece that talked about how sad it was that 1:49:06.240 --> 1:49:09.479 her whole tenure on that show was scrubbed away because 1:49:09.520 --> 1:49:11.720 she was such a great correspondent and they had such 1:49:11.760 --> 1:49:15.280 great chemistry and it's like she's ceases to exist in 1:49:15.280 --> 1:49:20.360 that realm like most women. Yeah, in these cases, we 1:49:20.560 --> 1:49:24.400 he got a standing ovation. She was meant to leave 1:49:24.479 --> 1:49:26.519 scrubbed from the internet. But she was in law school 1:49:26.600 --> 1:49:29.760 and she graduated and she's a lawyer. And that's that. 1:49:29.760 --> 1:49:32.519 That's another tie in with the episode is like we 1:49:32.720 --> 1:49:33.960 just talked about it, like. 1:49:33.920 --> 1:49:36.200 America loves a comeback. Look at this fucking guy gets 1:49:36.200 --> 1:49:39.519 out of jail, immediately gets another job, no problem. David 1:49:39.560 --> 1:49:43.400 Letterman saw no problems, like had nothing wrong. This girl 1:49:43.680 --> 1:49:46.080 had to leave entertainment. I mean, she's a lawyer. She's 1:49:46.080 --> 1:49:48.880 not like canceled or dead or anything. But like, you know, 1:49:49.280 --> 1:49:52.040 it's like, fucking what we just talked. 1:49:51.840 --> 1:49:53.960 About, being on the Late Show is probably a great 1:49:54.000 --> 1:49:56.599 fucking gig. You know, he was paying for her fucking college. 1:49:57.439 --> 1:50:00.960 It's yeah that you're right. The guy went because David 1:50:01.000 --> 1:50:04.559 Letterman's beloved. This guy tried to extore David Letterman and 1:50:04.600 --> 1:50:07.479 he got a job right away, straight out of Rikers, 1:50:08.160 --> 1:50:10.240 And yeah, it is. 1:50:10.560 --> 1:50:11.080 It's wild. 1:50:11.120 --> 1:50:14.120 And it's just like she was a pawn between this guy, 1:50:14.160 --> 1:50:15.800 you know what I mean, Like this guy was like 1:50:15.880 --> 1:50:19.680 I'm jealous, but also like she's dat, she's hooking up 1:50:19.680 --> 1:50:22.680 with these old ass losers. This guy was seventeen years 1:50:22.720 --> 1:50:25.240 older than her, with paying two alimony payments, he had 1:50:25.280 --> 1:50:29.720 two ex wives. Yeah, he's paying over six thousand dollars 1:50:29.760 --> 1:50:35.000 in alimony. It's nuts, it's nuts a month a month. 1:50:35.360 --> 1:50:37.519 But yeah, so she saw something in him. Lived in 1:50:37.560 --> 1:50:44.000 a house in Connecticut. I mean, she obviously has weird taste. Well, 1:50:44.040 --> 1:50:48.000 thank you for taking us down memory lane. And a light. 1:50:48.120 --> 1:50:50.760 It's light, it's nice. Yeah, it's a little light. You know, 1:50:50.840 --> 1:50:51.880 a few months in jail. 1:50:52.560 --> 1:50:55.880 We don't have a guest today, so let's pop right 1:50:55.920 --> 1:50:56.960 into that post mortem. 1:50:56.960 --> 1:51:04.720 Baby. I hated seeing the belt. I really didn't like it. 1:51:05.080 --> 1:51:07.360 She was she's such a good actress, like you really 1:51:07.360 --> 1:51:09.280 felt her on the stand. And this is one that 1:51:10.120 --> 1:51:12.719 I actually haven't seen that much and I never really remember. 1:51:12.760 --> 1:51:14.960 And then when I remember, I go, oh god, nothing. 1:51:14.720 --> 1:51:18.040 Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's a tough one. 1:51:18.280 --> 1:51:20.720 I mean I think it's like as like in so 1:51:20.800 --> 1:51:23.400 many episodes of this show that they highlight is like 1:51:23.520 --> 1:51:26.680 you can kind of stop sex whenever you want. You 1:51:26.720 --> 1:51:30.360 can stop any kind of like physical activity, you know, 1:51:31.439 --> 1:51:35.000 anytime you want, and like that, everyone tries to act 1:51:35.120 --> 1:51:36.040 like yeah, like. 1:51:36.280 --> 1:51:38.920 I just don't even understand why you would be like 1:51:39.439 --> 1:51:40.599 what that's it. 1:51:40.600 --> 1:51:42.479 It's like is that or it's sick? 1:51:42.560 --> 1:51:45.640 It's yeah, or like or anything like she wrote a 1:51:45.680 --> 1:51:48.120 book about sex, so she loves it. She had posted 1:51:48.120 --> 1:51:50.639 a photo on Instagram where she's wearing a skimpy dress, 1:51:50.720 --> 1:51:53.440 so she loves it. It's like anything that's like outside 1:51:53.840 --> 1:51:57.200 of that moment, it feels irrelevant. But then, like the 1:51:57.200 --> 1:51:59.120 show points out that that's not really true in a 1:51:59.160 --> 1:52:02.200 court of law, when you know people are judging you 1:52:02.280 --> 1:52:06.040 and making like making I mean like the fact that 1:52:06.040 --> 1:52:08.920 they had to like go down to Baltimore to find 1:52:08.960 --> 1:52:12.280 her old ex boyfriend and be like how kinky was 1:52:12.320 --> 1:52:14.639 she tell us, you know, like we gotta we gotta 1:52:14.680 --> 1:52:15.400 get to it first. 1:52:15.800 --> 1:52:17.479 That was what the girl at the face she was saying, 1:52:17.520 --> 1:52:18.560 because were talking about Merrilyn M. 1:52:18.640 --> 1:52:20.800 Manson and she was just like, I don't know. I mean, 1:52:20.800 --> 1:52:21.519 she was an adult. 1:52:21.600 --> 1:52:24.040 He didn't she didn't have to go in and do that, 1:52:24.160 --> 1:52:27.519 like it was an sn M type thing. And I'm like, yeah, 1:52:27.520 --> 1:52:30.679 but he is a freak, Like I don't know, but wait, 1:52:30.720 --> 1:52:33.320 did you hear about the Vinnie from Jersey Shore thing. 1:52:33.400 --> 1:52:34.839 Have I talked about it on this podcast? 1:52:34.920 --> 1:52:35.040 No? 1:52:35.080 --> 1:52:35.559 What happened? 1:52:35.600 --> 1:52:38.639 So, you know, I'm obsessed with this guy. His podcast 1:52:38.760 --> 1:52:40.479 is pillow Talk. I don't know why I'm endeared to 1:52:40.520 --> 1:52:42.360 him so much. I truly have such such a crush 1:52:42.400 --> 1:52:44.639 on him. His name's Ryan and he has porn stars 1:52:44.640 --> 1:52:48.400 and sex stirkers on his pod mostly and sometimes they 1:52:48.439 --> 1:52:50.000 do fuck on the pod. He brought his friend with 1:52:50.040 --> 1:52:51.960 cancer on and two of his favorite porn stars did 1:52:52.040 --> 1:52:52.720 have sex with him. 1:52:53.240 --> 1:52:56.160 But that's not digress. 1:52:57.320 --> 1:52:59.400 So they had a girl on and you know a 1:52:59.400 --> 1:53:01.439 lot of these porn stars like they fuck famous people, 1:53:01.479 --> 1:53:03.360 like they fuck all the rappers actors, like that's is 1:53:03.400 --> 1:53:06.840 in their dms and so like they all have fucked 1:53:06.880 --> 1:53:09.280 Chris Brown, Like they're all just out there like that's 1:53:09.320 --> 1:53:13.920 who's fucking celebrities. And so she said that Vinnie from 1:53:13.960 --> 1:53:17.000 the Jersey Shore. She went to his house and they 1:53:17.040 --> 1:53:19.599 watched a porno of a girl in a dog cage 1:53:19.800 --> 1:53:22.360 and then she pukes and then she eats her own puke, 1:53:23.280 --> 1:53:26.200 and then they went into like the house or whatever, 1:53:26.240 --> 1:53:29.200 and they're of the room, no furniture, nothing except a 1:53:29.240 --> 1:53:32.200 dog cage. And he was like I want you to 1:53:32.240 --> 1:53:34.800 go do that, and she didn't, and so then the 1:53:34.840 --> 1:53:37.040 facial girl was like, well this girl like she did 1:53:37.080 --> 1:53:39.439 go do that, And I'm like, I don't know. But also, 1:53:39.479 --> 1:53:41.479 if you're gonna be fucking and like if you're famous 1:53:41.479 --> 1:53:42.800 and you're gonna be doing that, like you need to 1:53:42.840 --> 1:53:45.240 make people sign NDA's like I will never become the same, 1:53:45.640 --> 1:53:48.639 Like it's you know, it's consensual whatever if you want 1:53:48.640 --> 1:53:52.360 to watch women eating puke in a dog cage, like okay, 1:53:52.439 --> 1:53:54.639 but I don't know. I don't know how you live 1:53:54.680 --> 1:53:57.479 that down now. But also maybe I'm breaking the news, 1:53:57.520 --> 1:53:59.800 so who knows. Yeah, are talking about it? 1:53:59.800 --> 1:54:04.920 Like sure, I do not know? Wow, I God, Lisa, 1:54:05.439 --> 1:54:06.479 nobody is safe. 1:54:06.720 --> 1:54:09.120 I thought Vinnie was like the one good guy from 1:54:09.200 --> 1:54:10.479 fucking Jersey Shore. 1:54:10.720 --> 1:54:13.080 Yeah, you would think it'd be the situation or something. 1:54:13.200 --> 1:54:16.479 Yeah, yeah, you tell me the situations and this shit 1:54:16.600 --> 1:54:16.800 like that. 1:54:16.960 --> 1:54:21.720 I'm like, yeah, got it tracks, But Vinnie's Vinnie. It's 1:54:21.840 --> 1:54:23.800 Vinnie oof oof. 1:54:23.800 --> 1:54:27.960 And I mean like yeah, not not not to kink shame. 1:54:27.800 --> 1:54:30.960 But that's a lot. That's a lot. It's tough. It's tough. 1:54:31.000 --> 1:54:32.840 I think you got to do a couple therapy just 1:54:32.880 --> 1:54:34.240 to figure out why you want that. 1:54:34.440 --> 1:54:37.840 I do think that like no judgment, but you know judgment, but. 1:54:37.880 --> 1:54:40.200 It's like what your facialist is talking about. It's like, 1:54:40.280 --> 1:54:42.800 consider what was happening in the real crime or the 1:54:42.840 --> 1:54:46.040 real like extortion that you talked about in this week's episode. 1:54:46.120 --> 1:54:48.800 Like sure, this girl is like kind of having an 1:54:48.800 --> 1:54:51.280 affair with David Letterman. She's an adult, but like he's 1:54:51.320 --> 1:54:54.640 her boss. There's power dynamics, there's all like does she 1:54:54.760 --> 1:54:57.240 have the ability to just walk away if she wants to? 1:54:57.760 --> 1:54:59.840 We don't know. Well that's what I said to her. 1:55:00.040 --> 1:55:02.000 So you know, even if it's not criminal, I'm like, 1:55:02.000 --> 1:55:03.760 I'm not saying everyone's a criminal, Like it doesn't have 1:55:03.800 --> 1:55:05.880 to be criminal, But if tons of women all over 1:55:05.920 --> 1:55:08.840 have the same experience of feeling pressure or giving in 1:55:09.280 --> 1:55:12.720 or whatever, there is a collective experience and there should 1:55:12.720 --> 1:55:15.640 be a name for it or a thing or like, yeah, 1:55:15.680 --> 1:55:17.680 a name for the person who pressures you, like we 1:55:17.720 --> 1:55:22.160 have sex pest. But like, if if everyone is experiencing it, 1:55:22.280 --> 1:55:23.880 you cannot dismiss. 1:55:23.440 --> 1:55:26.040 It as well. You said it. 1:55:26.080 --> 1:55:28.000 You know. It's like if all of us feel uncomfortable 1:55:28.040 --> 1:55:29.640 at one point of our lives when we're young, then, 1:55:29.720 --> 1:55:31.120 like we need to address it. 1:55:31.400 --> 1:55:33.920 Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 1:55:34.160 --> 1:55:38.280 But whatever, I just yeah, but this is like a 1:55:38.320 --> 1:55:41.600 harrowing episode. Also, I guess, like, figure out a fool 1:55:41.600 --> 1:55:44.520 proof plan. If you're going to just write erotica for 1:55:44.640 --> 1:55:47.960 your college professor, let's figure out a backstory. Let's figure 1:55:47.960 --> 1:55:52.440 out where you learned all of your knowledge about Uh, 1:55:53.120 --> 1:55:53.680 what's the guys. 1:55:53.920 --> 1:55:56.480 Yeah, you didn't like that she didn't have enough lies planned, she. 1:55:56.480 --> 1:55:58.760 Didn't have enough ries plan, she didn't have enough lies plan. Like, 1:55:58.800 --> 1:56:00.480 if you're going to go on talk shows stuff, people 1:56:00.480 --> 1:56:02.200 are going to ask you where you got into all 1:56:02.200 --> 1:56:02.760 that stuff? 1:56:02.840 --> 1:56:03.720 Like I just wanted. 1:56:04.000 --> 1:56:06.600 I was assuming that these two smart women would have 1:56:06.600 --> 1:56:09.320 had more of a fool proof plan to keep the 1:56:10.200 --> 1:56:14.640 deception alive. But I really hope that in the extended 1:56:14.760 --> 1:56:20.120 universe of SVU, Jocelyn has started writing, you know, her 1:56:20.160 --> 1:56:21.840 own fiction and it's going well and. 1:56:21.800 --> 1:56:22.480 People like it. 1:56:23.400 --> 1:56:27.560 Yeah, you know, should we get into what would Sister 1:56:27.600 --> 1:56:31.960 Peg do? Yes, this is our weekly segment where we 1:56:32.080 --> 1:56:34.440 direct you towards some kind of resource that'll help you 1:56:34.520 --> 1:56:36.600 learn a little bit more about what we talked about today, 1:56:36.680 --> 1:56:39.560 and just apropos of the conversation. We were just having 1:56:39.560 --> 1:56:41.600 I wanted to highlight this article I found on the 1:56:41.640 --> 1:56:45.120 Planned Parenthood website called Sexual Boundaries how to Set Them. 1:56:45.680 --> 1:56:48.040 It's a quick read that helps define sexual boundaries in 1:56:48.080 --> 1:56:52.000 a consensual sexual situation as well as communication tips. Breaks 1:56:52.040 --> 1:56:55.760 down several key categories like clothing boundaries, body part boundaries, 1:56:55.760 --> 1:56:59.000 activity boundaries, and lays out how to effectively communicate and 1:56:59.080 --> 1:57:02.120 establish all of these boundaries. Wow, don't drink every time 1:57:02.120 --> 1:57:05.480 I say boundary. 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