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Speaker 1: of all the places you've been, just like any coach

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Speaker 1: takes the best parts of the places he's been. So um,

430
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Speaker 1: there there was there was positive that at all the

431
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,560
Speaker 1: places I was at. Jim it was one of the

432
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Speaker 1: topics that's kind of it's you see it popping up

433
00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:14,359
Speaker 1: a little bit just after week one, and you know

434
00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 1: how it is, people always overreact after one week of

435
00:19:16,640 --> 00:19:18,920
Speaker 1: the season. But one of the one of the things

436
00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:21,160
Speaker 1: I saw floating around on social media was about kind

437
00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:24,240
Speaker 1: of the Belichick tree and the struggles of the Belichick

438
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,520
Speaker 1: tree in terms of the coaches. Um, we just haven't

439
00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:30,600
Speaker 1: really seen anybody, you know, have sustained success. It's come

440
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,720
Speaker 1: from there. Now. Look, it's hard for anybody, no matter

441
00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:34,879
Speaker 1: what tree you come from. But that was kind of

442
00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 1: a topic of conversation. Why do you think it's been

443
00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,640
Speaker 1: so difficult for the guys who have been under Belichick

444
00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,840
Speaker 1: for a long time and and and know the Patriot

445
00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,520
Speaker 1: way is I always like to say, why has that

446
00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:48,000
Speaker 1: been so difficult? To duplicate it? That's a really good

447
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,240
Speaker 1: question storry to jump in. And yet it's a it's

448
00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,439
Speaker 1: a that's a difficult question. All I can say is

449
00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 1: the one guy that gets lost a little bit um

450
00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,480
Speaker 1: And all that narrative is timas to mitrof and what

451
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,399
Speaker 1: he's been able to do in Atlanta, And and again

452
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:04,120
Speaker 1: you don't want to oversimplify it, but if you look

453
00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:07,040
Speaker 1: at all these guys and where there's been um, it

454
00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:09,760
Speaker 1: boils down to the quarterback position. You know, Thomas drafted

455
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,439
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan really early on in his time there, and

456
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Speaker 1: now he's been in the GM you know, Atlanta for

457
00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, ten twelve years now. UM,

458
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:21,919
Speaker 1: So he's had really, you know, he's had sustained success

459
00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:23,680
Speaker 1: where you look at some of the other people, whether

460
00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,920
Speaker 1: it's you know, Romeo Carnell going to Cleveland never really

461
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,040
Speaker 1: having a quarterback. Um, you know, Scott and I go

462
00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 1: into to Kansas City. We never truly figured that out,

463
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:37,960
Speaker 1: you know, Josh McDaniels in Denver, UM. So yeah, that's

464
00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,320
Speaker 1: to me, that's the common the common threat. I do

465
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Speaker 1: think that there's been some times where where guys have

466
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,719
Speaker 1: tried to tried to stick to the patriot model almost

467
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 1: too much, um, and not put their own stamp on it,

468
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,879
Speaker 1: which I think can be a mistake because you know,

469
00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,080
Speaker 1: Builds a pretty unique guy, so you know, what worked

470
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Speaker 1: for him doesn't always work for everyone else. And I

471
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Speaker 1: think that some people, you know, over time will have

472
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:04,520
Speaker 1: learned that. UM. But it's you know, it's true. I

473
00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280
Speaker 1: mean that everyone's gonna point to that, but I I

474
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Speaker 1: think that what what Thomas has done in Atlanta has

475
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Speaker 1: been overlooked. One of the things I'm glad you mentioned

476
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Speaker 1: Thomas because I wanted to get to that. I think

477
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: one of the smart things that Thomas has done. We

478
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Speaker 1: both we all know, we know if Thomas forever, and

479
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,919
Speaker 1: Buck knows him well as well. I thought it was

480
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Speaker 1: interesting though, because he went, Yes, he's trained under the

481
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Speaker 1: Patriot Way, no question, but he went outside the family

482
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,760
Speaker 1: and he's he's had coaches that did not grow up

483
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Speaker 1: in that same environment. So I think it was almost

484
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Speaker 1: like an exchange of ideas. But I'm looking like Bob

485
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: quinn Um. You know, he decided to make a change

486
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Speaker 1: of the coaching position. He brings in Matt Patricia, so

487
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,200
Speaker 1: you've got Patriot Way, Patriot Way, j Rob John Robinson

488
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: decided to bring in Frabel, who definitely came up through

489
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Speaker 1: the Patriot Wait, Patriot Way, Patriot Way. I give Demetrov

490
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Speaker 1: some credit for going outside maybe the comfort zone there,

491
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Speaker 1: and I think maybe that exchange of ideas has been

492
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Speaker 1: that might be the reason why he's the one guy

493
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Speaker 1: that has had sustained success. That's just just an observation, No,

494
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,280
Speaker 1: I think that's I think that's a really good point.

495
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,639
Speaker 1: And Bucky knows this from his his time scouting on

496
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Speaker 1: the West coast. When Thomas, you know, when Thomas was

497
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: a scout. He's got people need to look into his background.

498
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,800
Speaker 1: He's got such a unique background of how he got

499
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Speaker 1: into it. I got in through pr. He got into

500
00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,360
Speaker 1: working on the grounds crew when his dad was scouting

501
00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: for the Browns. And he used to come in with

502
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,320
Speaker 1: paint all over himself and trying to sit down with

503
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Speaker 1: with Scott and those guys in Cleveland when they were

504
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 1: all there together with phil Um. But yeah, the one

505
00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: thing Thomas has always been he's a really open minded guy. Uh,

506
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Speaker 1: And I think that's that's one thing I always took

507
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Speaker 1: away from working with him is to be open minded

508
00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,919
Speaker 1: and to open to other ideas and and just the

509
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,200
Speaker 1: whole process. I mean, this is a guy that used

510
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Speaker 1: to travel around the West Coast and a VW bus

511
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 1: and you know, sleeping his bus and and and ride

512
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Speaker 1: his bike around the West Coast and um, you know,

513
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:47,920
Speaker 1: he had a long hair and the goat to him.

514
00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: And he's he looks a lot different now than he

515
00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,120
Speaker 1: used to look. But he you know, he's he's always

516
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,080
Speaker 1: stayed true to himself in the sense that he's he's

517
00:22:54,119 --> 00:22:57,000
Speaker 1: kept an open mind and and yeah, reaching out and

518
00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: and you know, hiring, hiring, coach Smith there you years ago,

519
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:02,679
Speaker 1: and then bringing in dan Quinn when he did. I

520
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 1: was with Dan in Seattle. I can tell you dan

521
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: Quinn is an absolute stud. Anyone that's ever worked to

522
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 1: them or been around him, the means there's no there.

523
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Speaker 1: It is not by mistake that that they're doing well

524
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 1: in Atlanta right now is in But yeah, Thomas's ability

525
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Speaker 1: just to stay open it's been has always impressed me.

526
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Speaker 1: You know, Jim, So taking all that experience and taking

527
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Speaker 1: all those things, and and the quarterbacks that you've been around,

528
00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,360
Speaker 1: and the people that you've been around, how did those

529
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 1: experiences serve you well? Now in your new position now

530
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: scouting players for the Senior Bowl and trying to put

531
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Speaker 1: together rosters that UH scouts and executives and coaches can

532
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Speaker 1: be excited about. How are you able to lean on

533
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Speaker 1: those experiences? You know? Bucky, I'll say this that the

534
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Speaker 1: one of my biggest takeaways from from going to Seattle,

535
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Speaker 1: which was so beneficial for me because heaven been in

536
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Speaker 1: the in the Patriot way, which again I'm it's there's

537
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 1: my time there was incredible. I learned so much. Um,

538
00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:55,200
Speaker 1: They've got so many good methods and ways of doing things,

539
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:58,040
Speaker 1: but Seattle was so different. To see a different way

540
00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,680
Speaker 1: of doing things was beneficial and really I took away

541
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: from from Seattle was just always always staying after it.

542
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 1: Never like the mantra there was. We never have all

543
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Speaker 1: the answers. And I credit John for that a lot

544
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,639
Speaker 1: of times in scouting in football in general, you know,

545
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,880
Speaker 1: people can people can act like they do have all

546
00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: the answers, and John was like, no, you know, let's

547
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,439
Speaker 1: let's stay after this thing. And um, you know again,

548
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: I think a lot of teams cut their scouts out

549
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: of the process really early, and John was. John allowed

550
00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,440
Speaker 1: us up until the time we were making the picks

551
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: in Seattle. I mean you had a voice all the

552
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 1: way through so you could exhaust the process you could

553
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 1: go through, and that really helped when I was, um,

554
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,879
Speaker 1: you know scouting the Griffin Brothers for for the for

555
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: the Seahawks, is you have all the way up until

556
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:45,040
Speaker 1: the draft. They to get questions answered, always ask questions,

557
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,159
Speaker 1: always trying to figure things out. So you know, carrying

558
00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 1: that over to my job now at the Senior Bowl,

559
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 1: I can't get everywhere you know I did I I

560
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 1: you can't cover the whole country by yourself. You're not superman.

561
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: So I've I've hired four scouts that have been um

562
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 1: been let go in last higher and firing cycle. Uh.

563
00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 1: They've got sixty nine years of experience between the four

564
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 1: of them. And if you guys know when sometimes when

565
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: you're a scout a lot of times in football, and

566
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,520
Speaker 1: you when you lose your job, it's not because you're

567
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,760
Speaker 1: not good at your job. It's because you know the

568
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 1: failures of a team or what you just get caught,

569
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: get crossed, get caught in a um, you know, a

570
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,320
Speaker 1: new regime change, and that's what happened to these guys.

571
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 1: So I've got them covering the country. UM, I'm gonna

572
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: work the phones as much as I can and talk

573
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 1: to my friends in the league and really rely on

574
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: those relationships that you filled over the years, because I

575
00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 1: want these rosters to be players that that that the

576
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,880
Speaker 1: NFL wants to see. I mean, I see this job

577
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 1: is Yeah, I'm a steward to the local community here

578
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: in Mobile. This is a big deal for us down

579
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: and down in Mobile, Alabama. But I'm also a steward

580
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:43,479
Speaker 1: of the thinky two teams and I've got to put

581
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 1: together rosters and players they want to see. So it's

582
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 1: just being an open minded, being resourceful, asking questions, not

583
00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: being afraid to, you know, ask for help and reach

584
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: out and use all your resources. Well, I'm excited. I'm

585
00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: excited for you there, Jim. You did a great job.

586
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 1: I want to kind of transition as you're talking about

587
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:00,640
Speaker 1: your new role here with this in your bowl, about

588
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 1: some of these college kids. I know you've got a

589
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,160
Speaker 1: chance to go out to that week one game Auburn

590
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 1: in Washington, uh Man, A lot of a lot of

591
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: NFL players, a lot of Senior Bowl caliber players in

592
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: that one. What was your takeaway? Yeah, it was that

593
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 1: was a great game, really competitive game. Like you said,

594
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 1: a lot of players and one thing one road I

595
00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 1: didn't really want to go down publicly named names. You know,

596
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: one thing we that that Phil Savage got done here

597
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: years ago was bringing it we can bring in juniors

598
00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 1: now to the Senior Bowl. The guys that if they

599
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: have their diploma by December UM and right now Auburn's

600
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:31,639
Speaker 1: got five of them. And one guy that I have

601
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,480
Speaker 1: is pretty public, you know, Jared's Didham got his degree

602
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: last spring. So he's a big time talent. I foun

603
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: him this summer at the at the Manning camp. I know,

604
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: you guys have been down in the manning camp before

605
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: and working in the NFL, you can't do do that.

606
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: So they've given a too experience to see to go

607
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: down here just see how that operates. But Jared's a

608
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,639
Speaker 1: big time guy. We'd love to get him down here

609
00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 1: for our game. Um. You know, they've got four players

610
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,760
Speaker 1: on defense and are going to have their diplomas in December,

611
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,320
Speaker 1: so we're excited there, uh, you know, and then the

612
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: other side, you know, for Washington, they've got two time.

613
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: Les McGary was the guy that I focused on in

614
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: the game because he was actually there at the left tackle.

615
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: You know it has the back injury and he couldn't

616
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: make the trip. So McGarry stood out. You know. Jake

617
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: Browning actually played better than than I would have thought too.

618
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 1: To me, seems like a little bit of a gamer. Um,

619
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 1: he's not the type of guy that's gonna while he

620
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 1: had the Manning camp. But I really thought he handled

621
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: himself well in that game. You know, Jim and and

622
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,679
Speaker 1: going across the country and looking because you're right there

623
00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 1: in the hot pit, obviously scouts would tell you, Uh,

624
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: the Southeast is where a lot of the top prospects

625
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:34,200
Speaker 1: come from. Who are some of the other guys. Who

626
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: are some of the other schools that you're excited about

627
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,199
Speaker 1: visiting and seeing those teams play live because they have

628
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: a lot of NFL players that we can kind of

629
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: keep up with. Yeah, yeah, you know, I got off

630
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,320
Speaker 1: for about I got off for about twelve days in

631
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 1: August and hit a bunch of schools. The only state

632
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,600
Speaker 1: that I really didn't hit down here in the Southeast

633
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:52,680
Speaker 1: was uh. I didn't get in the state of Florida

634
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: at all. But I'll see Miami and Florida State and uh,

635
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,280
Speaker 1: Florida all play live at different points this fall. Of course,

636
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: you want get up to Alabama. I mean every year,

637
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: regardless of year, you know, you're gonna have twelve to

638
00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: fifteen guys that are legitimate NFL prospects. So they're they're

639
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 1: they're a little bit different for the Senior Bowl this year,

640
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: and that a lot of their a lot of their

641
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 1: top talent as freshmen and sophomores. I mean this offense,

642
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: I mean you've seen him these first couple of weeks

643
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 1: with two at quarterback. I mean, those those three underclassman

644
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: receivers the freshman and sophomore receivers and the young running backs.

645
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 1: I mean, they're just loaded. So you always want to

646
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 1: get up there and see their players again. They're another place.

647
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 1: They've got two players on defense that are our junior graduates,

648
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: UM that are playing good football right now that we'd

649
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: love to have down here. So obviously Alabama, I think Georgia,

650
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 1: I mean that's that, That's that was a statement game

651
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 1: for me UM last week when they went into Colombia

652
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: and Williams Brice. I really thought Carolina was South. Carolina

653
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be a team that would challenge. I thought

654
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: there was gonna be a much better game that was.

655
00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,080
Speaker 1: So they proved me wrong. George is loaded. I thought that,

656
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: uh you know, I thought they were gonna have a

657
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,480
Speaker 1: hard time replacing some of their some of their leadership

658
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,880
Speaker 1: from last year, you know, Isaiah Win and Sony Michelle,

659
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: Nick Chubb, ro Kuan Smith. But obviously Kirby what he's

660
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,320
Speaker 1: doing in recruiting, showing up on the field because that

661
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: that was a really really impressive game. The other day,

662
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 1: you were you were there in Seattle with Russell Um.

663
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: I've made the comparison, know, Buck, you haven't been around

664
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: too at the lead. Eleven has made the comparison with

665
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Two and Russell. Obviously one's left handed, one's right handed.

666
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: How do you compare those two guys? Yeah, you know

667
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,560
Speaker 1: the funny, it's good you you made that comparison because

668
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,240
Speaker 1: that's who the recruiting guys you know too or three

669
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: years ago and they were recruiting to they would say

670
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: that to me, They're like, man, he's just like you're

671
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: guy Russell and uh not to see him play. He's

672
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: got that bounce, he's got the same kind of balance

673
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: when he's in the pocket. Stature wise, he's really similar.

674
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: Russell is probably a little thicker in his lower half.

675
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: But you know, Two has got the long arms, he's

676
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: got the big hands. He's just got that you know,

677
00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: abnormal body type for a shorter quarterback that allows them

678
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: to you know, his release points higher because he's got

679
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,680
Speaker 1: those long arms. Um, he's got a really very similar

680
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: skill set. But to me, just the athlete and the

681
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: ability to improvise that that first touchdown he through um

682
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago against the Louisville where he

683
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: peeled around and went around and and hit him. He

684
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 1: just got some of that Russell Magic, and a lot

685
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: of the plays Russell makes aren't you know, on on

686
00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: schedule and and they're they're more off script plays and

687
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,960
Speaker 1: two can do the same thing. That's why I think

688
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna be so explosive this year. But really, to me,

689
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:24,280
Speaker 1: what what what's different about to Uh is that I

690
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: think he anticipates a little better and Russell does. I

691
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: think he sees the feel a little better. And Russell Um,

692
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: some of those throws he makes aren't just you know,

693
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 1: when you when you slow down the tape and you're

694
00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: seeing when he's making those throws the four guys are

695
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: getting out of breaks are clear and coverage. It's really impressive,

696
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 1: you know, And thinking about that because quarterbacks are always

697
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: the hardest to find, um and just looking at some

698
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 1: of the quarterbacks around the country, who are some of

699
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: the guys that you're just kind of keeping your eye on? Yeah,

700
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, Buck, I really wanted to get up this

701
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 1: weekend and go see Will Greer at West Virginia play

702
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: Ryan Finley at NCY State. Those are two of the

703
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: higher rated guys coming out at the spring process. And

704
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 1: it looks like all her Hurricane Florence is gonna is

705
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: gonna derail me. I was just on just on delta

706
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: before we hopped on here, trying to change my flight

707
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: and figure something else out because they've already canceled classes

708
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: at North Carolina State. So those two guys, for sure.

709
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 1: Finley was at the Man and Camp. Really impressive guy.

710
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Will Career I remember seeing as a young guy at

711
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: Florida when I was going into Florida, and really that

712
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,680
Speaker 1: might you know, him getting suspended that year and released

713
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 1: from school really kind of changed the course for Will

714
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: must Champ. I mean, he will might still be the

715
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: coach there because that's the one thing we'll never got

716
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 1: figured out, was was the quarterback position with the Gators.

717
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: And I mean, you guys know how a loaded they

718
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: were on defense with you know, Keyan O'Neill and Marcus

719
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: May and Jared Davis and all those studs have had

720
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: over the years at Florida on defense, they couldn't get

721
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 1: the q B thing. And and it Will look like

722
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: he was gonna be that guy. And uh, you know,

723
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: I spoke to a guy at Tennessee, the other daugh

724
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: that was at Florida with Will Career, so recruited him,

725
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: knows him well and He's like Jim, this kid's taken

726
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 1: the next jump, like he's really matured. He got them

727
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: in and out of plays against Tennessee that they were

728
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: really impressed with. Got him been a good plays, uh

729
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: in critical situations. So that was impressive. So those are

730
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: those are two guys that I really want to see.

731
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: I want to see Drew Lock Drew through it great.

732
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: Down at the Manning Camp. I mean, there was there

733
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: was a guy down there that's been at the Manning

734
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: camp every year since the inception, and uh, the day

735
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: I was there, I thought, did I'm probably threw it

736
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: the best. But this particular person said the day before

737
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: I got there, he drew Lock through it as good

738
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: as any guy they've ever had at the camp. So

739
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: I just know being in the league last year, there

740
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,200
Speaker 1: were some guys that really respect around the league that

741
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 1: that know the quarterback position and they thought Drew Lock

742
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: was in the conversation, are better than those four kids

743
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 1: that got taken in the first round last year. Well,

744
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: it's gonna be fun to watch those guys continue to

745
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 1: grow and develop this year during the college season. We'll

746
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: see who ends up down there. Mobile for your game

747
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 1: down there at the Reesea's Senior Bowl. We're hoping to

748
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 1: do this a bunch, Jim, have you on a bunch

749
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: here and talk about some of these college kids as

750
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: well as what's going on in the NFL. You can,

751
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 1: you can go in all areas. But before I let

752
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: you go, one thing we always do. We have personnel

753
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: buddies on here. We like to give me the floor

754
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: because the listeners they love learn about the players and

755
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 1: all that, but they're also fascinated about the scouting job

756
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: and what what that entails. And everybody has we all

757
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: have our handful of good scouting stories. We had to

758
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: meet your off talking about the van issues he's had

759
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: in the van we've had. We've had people talk about

760
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 1: the Berkeley days when they everybody was up in the trees.

761
00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 1: I know you've been up there and seen that a lot.

762
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 1: Everybody has their scouting stories. Forgetting your keys somewhere, lock

763
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: yourself out of your car, a weird hotel experience. You

764
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 1: gotta leave us with one of your favorite personal scouting stories.

765
00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: Oh pretty you should you? Uhoualdly let me prepare for this. No, no, no, no,

766
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 1: put you on the spot, man, this is what you

767
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: gotta You're in the draft room. You've been called on

768
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: the table. I needed to give me something. It could

769
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: be player related, it could be live game related. We've

770
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 1: talked about We've had guys that locked their keys in

771
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: their cart Virginia tech uh during a during a game.

772
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: We've had all kinds of all kinds of stuff here. Yeah,

773
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 1: that's a wow, that's a that's a really good one.

774
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: You know. It's something on the top of my head.

775
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: And I put this on Twitter last night, which which

776
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: we got to talk about. This whole social media thing

777
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy because you're working hard, though, Man,

778
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: I like your grind on the social platforms. I gotta work,

779
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 1: you know. That's what the sponsors want to see. They

780
00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: want to they want to see followers. I'm I'm diving

781
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:16,040
Speaker 1: in with you. What is your handle? What's your handle?

782
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 1: We've got a lot of listeners here, Jim Plug your

783
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 1: handle it's Jim Naggy, Underscore sp Senior Ball and agu I.

784
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: But you guys know, working in the NFL, that's like

785
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: taboo too, you know, VSL promoter and beyond that stuff.

786
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: So it's this is a whole different deal. But anyway, um,

787
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: something I put on last night, you know, one of

788
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,680
Speaker 1: the things, one of the one of the great things

789
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: about scouting to me was just really getting to know

790
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: the players. And again I credit I credit John Pete

791
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,919
Speaker 1: and the way we did things in Seattle. They really

792
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: wanted us to get invested and you know, learn these

793
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 1: learn these guys and figure them out and where they

794
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 1: came from. And I think the overlooked thing and scouting

795
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: just in general in the public. You know, a lot

796
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: of times what the general public sees about players is

797
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: in get of stuff. You know, they see all this

798
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:03,880
Speaker 1: they see all this stuff on the on the ticker

799
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: and and and the things that guys are doing. But

800
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: that's such a small percentage of these guys. There's so

801
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 1: many good stories and where did these guys come from

802
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: in the adversity of the overcome, So just getting me

803
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: to sit down and and spend time with these guys

804
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: and hear about where they came from, it's so impactful.

805
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: And I put something on last night about Jared Davis,

806
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:25,240
Speaker 1: the middle linebacker for Detroit. He was training in Orlando,

807
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: um for the draft, and I was going to the

808
00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: UCF Pro Day and I wasn't gonna be able to

809
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: make it to Florida's pro day because I want to

810
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 1: say Florida State and had there is the same day,

811
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 1: so we kind of had to split that up. But

812
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 1: I wanted to get with Jared because I thought he

813
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: was such a great player, and I thought it'd be

814
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: a great fit for us in Seattle. Just such a

815
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: violent dude, he played so fast. Was sitting down at

816
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,160
Speaker 1: them and spending a couple of hours with him, I

817
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 1: was so blown away just by his maturity level, his intelligence,

818
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: his focus, his drive. I mean, this kid was he

819
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: was unbelievable. So I leave, I leave the dinner and

820
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 1: as you guys know, a lot of times you don't

821
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 1: hear back from the player as well. I'm draw Evan

822
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,359
Speaker 1: and he texts me, you know, thank you so much

823
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: for the dinner. I really appreciate the opportunity. Well, I

824
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: texted him back. I said, you know this, m this

825
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: might sound like a weird question. I'm like, but can

826
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: I get your mom's cell phone number? And I said,

827
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,879
Speaker 1: I'd just like to reach out to her and tell

828
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: her what a great job she did with you. So

829
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,760
Speaker 1: he did. He shot me his mom's his mom's phone number,

830
00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 1: and I shot her a text and I just said,

831
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 1: Mrs Davis, Please, I just said dinner with your son.

832
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: I'd like you to know that, Um, what a great

833
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: job you did. And I you know, I've got a

834
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: thirteen year old son myself. I hope that he grows

835
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: up to be something similar. You did such a great job.

836
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: And she texted me back and just she said she

837
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,080
Speaker 1: had tears in her eyes and how much it meant

838
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,359
Speaker 1: to her. So that's those are those are the things

839
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm really gonna miss when it comes to working in

840
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. Is making those connections. Um, I look forward

841
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: to doing some of that. You're at the Senior Bowl,

842
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: but that won't be the thing. So that that's the

843
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,440
Speaker 1: That's the one side of scouting that I don't people.

844
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 1: I don't think people understand. And you can, really you

845
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,880
Speaker 1: can grow just by hearing about where some other people

846
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: came from. And I know that being around some of

847
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 1: these players and hearing their stories has made me a

848
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: better person over there years. That's that's big time. It's

849
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: a big time story. I thought you're gonna go Comedy Central.

850
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,759
Speaker 1: You went Hallmark Channel. Um so you switched it up

851
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,920
Speaker 1: on us a little bit there, but as a fantastic

852
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 1: story and speaks well for for Jared Davis, no doubt

853
00:37:11,360 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: that's your homework though, next time you come on. UM,

854
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 1: we need we need how many times we need? We

855
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: need to go Comedy Central for us? Oh yeah, we

856
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:19,399
Speaker 1: need to go. We need a good one. We need

857
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: we need something that is that is epic, something that

858
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 1: you've done and experience that you've had, maybe going to

859
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: a little hole in the wall school and failing to

860
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,920
Speaker 1: bring donuts and not being able to watch tape or

861
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 1: watching tape on a sheet and a gym. Something, something

862
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,920
Speaker 1: that would take us a little bit behind behind the curtains. Okay,

863
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: I can do that. Yeah, I got some from that

864
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 1: year in Green Day, Buck you, I'd indicte some people

865
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: and hey, there's no names, you don't have to share names.

866
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 1: We can go. We can go John Doe, John Doe,

867
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: this bad boy. Yeah, hey, Nags. We can't thank you enough. Buddy.

868
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,520
Speaker 1: We look forward to catching up. You know, are my

869
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: mentor and scouting is feels average And Phil did a

870
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: wonderful job of taking the Senior Bowl to the next level.

871
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 1: Uh phills on. Now he's gonna be the the GM

872
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:10,080
Speaker 1: of the team in Phoenix for this new football league. Um,

873
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,719
Speaker 1: that was the a f I believe, and so Phil.

874
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 1: I'm excited for what he's going on in the future.

875
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 1: But man, what what a replacement there to get Jim

876
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: to take over the recent Senior Bowl as executive director.

877
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: You're gonna do a great job, buddy, and we look

878
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: forward to catching up with you throughout the year. No,

879
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: I appreciate the guys, thanks for having me on. I'll

880
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: come on whenever you want, all right, Buck, what a

881
00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: what a good dude. Good to catch up with Jim Naggy.

882
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: Something we've both known forever. I did not know. I

883
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: never knew that. Yes, uh, I never knew that he

884
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: was in then working for an agency way back in

885
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: the day. I've known him forever. He never told me

886
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: that story. That's funny. I think I think it was

887
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: even funnier. Um he brought up when he was a

888
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: pr intern with the Packers. Like I remember him coming

889
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: in and always just kind of being around and wanting

890
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: to kind of get on this side, but like everybody

891
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,360
Speaker 1: that kind of comes into building wants to do that.

892
00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to him at the locker several

893
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,879
Speaker 1: times and then just kind of watching it play out

894
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: and watching his career um over the years. I mean,

895
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: like you just kind of proud of guys who just

896
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,400
Speaker 1: kind of do the work. And so I'm happy that

897
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: he's a situation where he's really kind of found what

898
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,479
Speaker 1: I think is an ideal job, maybe a dream job

899
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: for him to be kind of in his wife's hometown,

900
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: to be able to steal, be connected to football in

901
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:15,959
Speaker 1: the league, and all those things. I'm excited to see

902
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: what he can do. And he also gets a chance

903
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: to kind of play on our side a little bit.

904
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: He gets the best of both worlds. He's gonna do

905
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 1: a great job there and we look forward to having

906
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,839
Speaker 1: him on more and more. He's been around a lot

907
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 1: of great people, some of the best minds in the NFL.

908
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:29,399
Speaker 1: So he's got playing to offer. What a great visit

909
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 1: to catch up with him now before we get to

910
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: Dexter to Lawrence and our interview with him coming up

911
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: on the top defensive line in the country there. For

912
00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: wake Forest, I thought me a couple of our takeaways

913
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,920
Speaker 1: here from last week in college football. For me, I mean,

914
00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:43,919
Speaker 1: I watched pretty much all of the Stanford USC game,

915
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: and that was Stanford. You know, look, they struggled to

916
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: stop the run a little bit. SC didn't move the

917
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: ball on him, you know a little bit. But Stanford

918
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 1: Bryce Love got on tracked just exactly like we thought

919
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 1: he would do. They were methodical, they shortened the game,

920
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,360
Speaker 1: and they j T Daniels that he never got comfortable.

921
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,320
Speaker 1: He could not get comfortable against that Stanford secondary and

922
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 1: and they couldn't USC could not get m in Ross St.

923
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: Brown involved, who got role in the week before. And

924
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 1: really the game was never It wasn't a blowout, but

925
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 1: it was never closed. Stanford was in control from start

926
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: to finish. They were in control from start to finish,

927
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:15,839
Speaker 1: and I think it was most impressive about the game.

928
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: I just continue to marvel at the physicality and toughness

929
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: that Stanford exhibits, particularly when they're playing a team where

930
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: they should be outmatched athletically like an SC. But man,

931
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,479
Speaker 1: when I look at Stanford and they're tight ends, their

932
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 1: tight ends give everyone problems, particularly down in the red zone.

933
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: Cody Parkinson being able to win one on one jump balls,

934
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: um J. Smith being able to make plays down the

935
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 1: middle of the field. I know, if I'm a young

936
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: tight end and I have aspirations of play at the

937
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: next level, I know that I would try and find

938
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 1: my way to Stanford because they not only developed them,

939
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: they know how to use them. And you get to

940
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: touch the ball down here. Yeah, if you're an offensive tackle,

941
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:56,960
Speaker 1: a tight end, or a quarterback, you got the grades

942
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: to get in. I don't know how you turn down Stanford. Yeah,

943
00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 1: I mean I don't like. They're very, very impressive when

944
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: it comes to what they've been able to kind of do,

945
00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,000
Speaker 1: and their guys continue to play well. And I will

946
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: say this about sc Um. Look, I think Tyler Vaughan

947
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: is going to be a stud. I think he's a

948
00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: solid wide receiver. Um, I like a monros st Brown

949
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,839
Speaker 1: and what he's been able to display. I think they're

950
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: running back has been other underutilized. Stephen Carr. I think

951
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:24,840
Speaker 1: Stephen Carr could be a guy that is one of

952
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: those hybrids, a runner receiver coming out of the backfield.

953
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: They're still trying to figure it out when you got

954
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: a freshman playing quarterback. But I think at the end

955
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: of the year, this team could still be a very

956
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: very good team and competitive team and the team that

957
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,959
Speaker 1: could vye for and should vy for uh the Pactwealth title.

958
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to your your takeaway here. I

959
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 1: know you were looking at what Ohio State and what

960
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: their young quarterbacks doing. Haskins Look, man, Dwayne Haskins a

961
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: guy that came through a leader love and a couple

962
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 1: of years ago. And at the time he was six

963
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:55,240
Speaker 1: coming from d m v U the Maryland d C. Area,

964
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: and you saw him, you could see that he could

965
00:41:57,400 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: spend it in the like but he's a pro style quarterback.

966
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: And then he made his way to Ohio State. You

967
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: just wonder, how is that going to fit. Ohio State

968
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 1: typically has guys that are kind of mobile that move around. Well,

969
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,759
Speaker 1: I think we're seeing how it fits. The kid is

970
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: completed almost eight of his passes, nine to one touchdown

971
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,839
Speaker 1: the interception ratio, and I have heard from scouts they

972
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 1: told me, like, look, the best quarterback in the country

973
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 1: could be the kid at the Ohio State. We haven't

974
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 1: seen enough of him, and we want to see him

975
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:26,279
Speaker 1: in big games. But Dwayne Haskins is one of those

976
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: guys we need to keep our eye on because he

977
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: has the size, he has the armed talent, and right

978
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 1: now he's putting up the performance in production to make

979
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,360
Speaker 1: you take notice. Keep an eye under Wayne Haskins because

980
00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 1: as this Big Ten season goes along. If he continues

981
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 1: to put up these numbers, we certainly will be talking

982
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,759
Speaker 1: about him as a top player to watch in this

983
00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: year or next year's draft. Three four touchdowns and then

984
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: it's backup Tate Martell, a kid from Bishop Temper ten

985
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: with the touch. He ran for ninety five yards and

986
00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: got a touch So they were all over Rutgers. No

987
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: surprise there. My takeaway the last one here before we

988
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: get to Dexter Lawrence was the game he played in

989
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,279
Speaker 1: last week against Texas A and M. I thought that

990
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 1: was a fun game to watch, a good, great atmosphere there,

991
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,439
Speaker 1: and I thought, look, Clempson had better players. I thought

992
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: that Texas and M obviously made it a game. If

993
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:11,840
Speaker 1: not for that fumble out of the back of the

994
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: end zone, who knows what happens, but that was that

995
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,400
Speaker 1: was a physical, physical game. And for all Jimbo Fisher,

996
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 1: you know, talking about how much money he was making,

997
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:21,719
Speaker 1: I know one thing. I have not seen Texas A

998
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 1: and M play that physical in a long time. No,

999
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 1: he certainly has changed the culture. And I look he

1000
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 1: talked about uh them wanted to be a more physical team,

1001
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: having to be physical. Every interview that you saw every

1002
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: press conference he talked about the physicality and toughness, and

1003
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: I saw that in that game against CLEMPS. Because I'm

1004
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: gonna be honest, I didn't think that Texas and m

1005
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: really had a chance to stay on the fielding and

1006
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: make this a very tight game. But the way they played,

1007
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: they made clips and play on their terms, and so

1008
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 1: that's certainly encouraging. And also the job that he did

1009
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: with the quarterback Kellen Mons Kellen months a year ago,

1010
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: we we watched him play against U C. L A.

1011
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: You were like, Ah, he can't throw. He's just a

1012
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: runaround guy. Jimbo Fisher has found a way to kind

1013
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,799
Speaker 1: of get some production out of him that is going

1014
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: to compliment what should be a very solid running game.

1015
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: Texting M. I don't think they will necessarily climb up

1016
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: the ranks in the SEC this year, but you can

1017
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 1: see what he's building. I think you have to be

1018
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: excited about the progress down to college station, no question.

1019
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 1: How about the quarterback situation real quick here at Clempson.

1020
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts there? You know, I mean, I

1021
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 1: think it is one of those things that will continue

1022
00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,719
Speaker 1: to be a thing that devils when he has to

1023
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: work around um and Kelly Bryany has the athletic quarterback

1024
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:29,960
Speaker 1: that is similar to the quarterbacks that he's had the

1025
00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: last five, six, seven years. And Trevor Lawrence, he has

1026
00:44:33,160 --> 00:44:36,640
Speaker 1: a pure pocket passer, a thrower. Trevor Lawrence comes in,

1027
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 1: throws it right away to Tee Higgins, who I know

1028
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: that pain Sully because Sully thought t Higgins was going

1029
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 1: to be a volunteer. He wears the other orange and

1030
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: scores a touchdown right away, And so I think what

1031
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,080
Speaker 1: you will see is later in the year, I think

1032
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: you can make a case for Trevor Lawrence eventually taking

1033
00:44:52,760 --> 00:44:55,720
Speaker 1: over because he does give them something that they haven't

1034
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: had in terms of a pure pocket passer with a

1035
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 1: big arm. That big would allow them to strech the

1036
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: field and maybe do some things that they haven't been

1037
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: able to do. Not only Tee Higgins, but Trevor Lawrence

1038
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,640
Speaker 1: was also a Tennessee commit, So that was a Tennessee

1039
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: commit to a Tennessee commit. At one point, touchdown, you

1040
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: guys are the best team. It almost was, Yeah, exactly,

1041
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: Preston Williams single handedly beating Arkansas too. It's just they're

1042
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 1: all over the place. Uh, I'm sorry about that, buddy. Um,

1043
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 1: all right, look it's it's It was a fun weekend

1044
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 1: in college football. Looking forward to this next weekend. We'll

1045
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: preview that on Thursday show some of our top games,

1046
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: make our picks there. But before we get to Thursday,

1047
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: let's finish this thing up with our our big guests.

1048
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,800
Speaker 1: And I do mean that, uh literally, Uh, Dexter Lawrence

1049
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna gonna join us here, DJ. You know, I'm excited

1050
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 1: whenever I get someone from the hometown. Uh, we get

1051
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: an opportunity to talk to one of my favorites, because

1052
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,520
Speaker 1: not only is he from my hometown, but he played

1053
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: for my dad and wait for us high school was

1054
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: wait for us rules rue back then. Dexter Lawrence, how

1055
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 1: are you doing, dex good? I'm good. How y'all doing good? Dexter? Look,

1056
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: it has been a wild for you since I first

1057
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 1: met you in high school. Uh, number two player overall

1058
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 1: coming out in high school, you make your way to Clemson.

1059
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 1: Kind of talking about that journey going from a small

1060
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: old town and Wake Forest to make it on the

1061
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:17,880
Speaker 1: big stage with the Clepson Tigers. Oh man, Um, honestly,

1062
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: I want going through the recruiting process in high school.

1063
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: I didn't know what a scholarship was. I didn't know

1064
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: where Clemson was. I mean, I was just kind of

1065
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:30,319
Speaker 1: just saying thank you to people get they say they

1066
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: give me a scholarship. I didn't know what I was

1067
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: thinking for. But uh, just kind of going through the process.

1068
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: I mean, the school like was just sending me mail

1069
00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:42,879
Speaker 1: here and there every day, got like boxes full, four

1070
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: six to eight boxes for the mail. Um at the

1071
00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 1: end of the day, I just started, Um, I just

1072
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 1: talked to some people, you know, and just ask them

1073
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: like how do I go about this process? And one

1074
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,360
Speaker 1: of the good things they told me they told me

1075
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,920
Speaker 1: to recruit the school. Don't let and recruit me kind

1076
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: of do and um, you know that's just kind of

1077
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: how my mom set through the process was. And I

1078
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 1: ended up here, you know, because Dumar through my recruitment

1079
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,080
Speaker 1: of schools, I fail it's the best choice for me. Well,

1080
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 1: you end up making a good choice obviously the success

1081
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: you guys have had there with Clemson Tigers. But I

1082
00:47:17,360 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: want to go back early. I want to go back

1083
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,279
Speaker 1: when you were young, because when I see guys like you,

1084
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: and in our scouting background, we see guys as big

1085
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 1: and as athletic as you are normally. It's not just

1086
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,640
Speaker 1: a football background that you possess. What what a sports

1087
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: did you play growing up? And what was your favorite? Oh?

1088
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: I love basketball, that's what I thought. Uh yeah, big

1089
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 1: basketball guy. Uh player played the five, you know, um

1090
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,879
Speaker 1: banger banger. Oh definitely definitely couldn't be hounded down there.

1091
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 1: But uh, you know I threw the shot put and

1092
00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: disc isn't uh in track and field. But yeah, you

1093
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: know when you think about playing those sports, decks, how

1094
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: did those sports help you now as a dominant de

1095
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: fensive tackle. Um, I say basketball, just help me with

1096
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 1: my endurance, uh, footwork, you know, being one with my

1097
00:48:08,239 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: body kind of thing, because basketball you need a lot

1098
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: of body control and just kind of my explos soon

1099
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: as you know, I got got off the ground a

1100
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: lot in basketball, you know, quick jump, quick steps, kind

1101
00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: of flexibility as well, Um in my hips playing defense,

1102
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 1: little things like that, and kind of also learning my

1103
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: strength because you know, you gotta bang down low, you know,

1104
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: be off and strong and um what the shop even

1105
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: shop putting disc is helping me with my hips, you know,

1106
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: throwing the ball, Uh even disc is doing doing a

1107
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: little spin technique things like that. So, I mean those

1108
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: those kind of sports help me do with football. Let

1109
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:47,800
Speaker 1: let's jump on the field a little bit now, because

1110
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: I watched you over the summer and last year. You know,

1111
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,720
Speaker 1: things that jump out just just how strong and powerful

1112
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:54,920
Speaker 1: you are holding the point of attack, pushing the pocket.

1113
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: But I want to know, was there anything different with

1114
00:48:57,760 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: you this year in terms of health that you Did

1115
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: you drop any weight or anything. I watched you early

1116
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: this season, Dexter, I think you have got a little

1117
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: more juice. You're even more explosive. So was it was?

1118
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: It was it health? Like, tell us about what happened

1119
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:10,960
Speaker 1: with you health wise last year or what you've done

1120
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:13,279
Speaker 1: in the offseason, because I see, I see it more explosive,

1121
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: plosive version of Dexter Lawrence this year. Oh yeah, last

1122
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: year I was batting a good injury. Uh, I was

1123
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:22,920
Speaker 1: planning on one leg last year kind of thing. I

1124
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,880
Speaker 1: had lost, um some filling due to it, like a

1125
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:28,719
Speaker 1: nerve block and my leg at the surgery. So I

1126
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,400
Speaker 1: was just kind of battling that, trying to game my

1127
00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 1: strength back off season. UM played the season player like

1128
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: on my one leg, you know, I mean, so that

1129
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 1: just kind of slowed me down. But it also helped

1130
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: me a little bit, um just to kind of focus

1131
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:46,720
Speaker 1: on my hand re placement, you know, like my strenching

1132
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,000
Speaker 1: up my hands, you know, and kind of made me

1133
00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 1: focus on my footwork a little extra because I had

1134
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: to think about moving this foot a little more because

1135
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,040
Speaker 1: I couldn't really feel it that much. But last year

1136
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: they haunted me. But also it was a blessing just

1137
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: to help me get better mentally and just know that,

1138
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been through some stuff and I can

1139
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,920
Speaker 1: get through it, you know, dex and and thinking about that, um,

1140
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: A lot of people kind of put you in the

1141
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 1: box as a nose tackle. I got it plays right

1142
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: over top of the center. Having watched you, there's a

1143
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,480
Speaker 1: little pass rushing in your game. Do you feel like

1144
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,000
Speaker 1: there's more that you can show at Clemson? Then you've

1145
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: been showing just because one you have a talented defensive

1146
00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 1: line and a bunch of talented teammates around you. But

1147
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: if you feel like you can do more than just

1148
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,759
Speaker 1: play right over top of the center, that's that's one

1149
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:34,399
Speaker 1: of my that's one of my goals I've been trying

1150
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: to focus on this year. Uh, just showing my versatility.

1151
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,839
Speaker 1: You know, being able to be strong enough to play

1152
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 1: inside and be fast enough or quick enough to play

1153
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 1: the three technique or something like that. So you know,

1154
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,480
Speaker 1: that's just kind of what I've been trying to work

1155
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 1: on this offseason, you know. I mean they're probably going

1156
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: off last year film where I couldn't move as well,

1157
00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 1: and now I've just got this. I'm at this point

1158
00:50:57,040 --> 00:51:01,279
Speaker 1: to where I'm I know that I'm I'm healthy now,

1159
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,800
Speaker 1: so it's up to me. I just gotta prove myself

1160
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,319
Speaker 1: every day. I'm just glad I'm not going crazy, man,

1161
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 1: because I remember just heard how athletic you were and

1162
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: how explosive you were, and I watched you last year.

1163
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, this dude is strong and powerful, but

1164
00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know how much, how much juice,

1165
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 1: how much giddy up does he have that I've watched

1166
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: this year. I'm like, oh man, this is okay. Now.

1167
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 1: I see it. Now, I see that explosiveness and that

1168
00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:23,480
Speaker 1: juice and that gutta up. So it's nice to know

1169
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: you're fully healthy and we're seeing the real extra lawrence

1170
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: out there. Man. Uh, tell us back, take us back

1171
00:51:28,160 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: to that game against Texas and them, Uh, just coming

1172
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,360
Speaker 1: off that game. I was a RACKETUS atmosphere. They're a

1173
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: tight football game. What's it like just playing in that environment?

1174
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,000
Speaker 1: It was a lot of people. One at one point,

1175
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,959
Speaker 1: my ears are ringing. The crowd got so loud even

1176
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 1: when we were on defense, and I was and I

1177
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 1: was like, that's not supposed to that's not right. Why

1178
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,839
Speaker 1: are you ugh? They want the offense to hear. So,

1179
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: I mean that was a great experience texting in them.

1180
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,919
Speaker 1: But uh, we're fortunate up to come off on top.

1181
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: But um, I'll give credit to them. You know, they

1182
00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:02,200
Speaker 1: battle tested us. Um give us a lot of experience,

1183
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: and um, I just want to create the offensive line too,

1184
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: because you know they're holding it down, you know, max

1185
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: protecting and that's something that you know we kind of

1186
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: take as we gotta get better at as a defensive

1187
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,400
Speaker 1: long unit. So I mean they kind of just helped us,

1188
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, in the long run, because you know, a

1189
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 1: lot of teams are going to try to do that

1190
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 1: to us now and because they feel like that will work.

1191
00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: You know, they're thinking about that defensive line. You have

1192
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: so many talented guys that are in that D line room.

1193
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:32,840
Speaker 1: Kristen Wilkins and on and on how do you guys

1194
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: manage the competition because I know all you guys have

1195
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,719
Speaker 1: alpha personalities, how do you manage the competition between all

1196
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 1: the guys in that d line room. Um, it's just

1197
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: an everyday thing. We're battling. Even in the classroom. We're

1198
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: battling in the weight room. We're battling who's gonna get

1199
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 1: off the field first, who's going to get to the

1200
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: quarterback first. Kind of it's just ongoing competition. But at

1201
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,160
Speaker 1: the end of the day, we know we all love

1202
00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: each other, care for each other, but we know that

1203
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: we all out to prove prove something to to ourselves

1204
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:07,359
Speaker 1: in the world kind of deal. And it's just it's

1205
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: just great environment to be around. You know, they make

1206
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 1: me better, I make them better. It's kind of just

1207
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 1: it's all the circle trying to go in like feeding

1208
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,520
Speaker 1: into kind of deal. We give each other's knowledge. You know,

1209
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: we talked about game plans, all the all the different

1210
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: types of stuff, like moves they used to win, like

1211
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:27,439
Speaker 1: moves we should try watching Breaking Down film. It's it's

1212
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: just ongoing kind of deal. So it's just that's an

1213
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: honest blessing as well. Well, I know we don't have

1214
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: too much more time with you, But I do want

1215
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: to get your thoughts on something because I don't know

1216
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: if you know this about Bucky obviously played for his

1217
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: dad there, Bucky had interesting experience at Clemson. I want

1218
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:46,400
Speaker 1: Bucky to tell you what he did at Clemson, and

1219
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 1: then Dexter, I want you to react and tell me

1220
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: what you would have thought of somebody doing what Bucky

1221
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 1: did at Clemson. Bucket, go ahead, tell me what you did. Man,

1222
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: All right, let's hear alright, Jack? So, um, this was

1223
00:53:56,480 --> 00:54:00,160
Speaker 1: my junior year. Um, I think it was ninety two

1224
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 1: and three. Clemson had just lost to wake for us

1225
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: the week before we played him, so we were riding high.

1226
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,080
Speaker 1: We were ranked maybe seventeen or eighteen. We were going

1227
00:54:08,120 --> 00:54:12,120
Speaker 1: down to Death Valley and Carolina hadn't been Clempson in

1228
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: a long time, and so we were like, this is

1229
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: the year we're gonna get him. We're gonna make a statement,

1230
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: we gonna go down to Death Valley and we're gonna

1231
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,600
Speaker 1: put it on them. And the fact that they had

1232
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,719
Speaker 1: just gotten whooped by wake Forest, we were really emboldened.

1233
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,040
Speaker 1: So you know, how you come out, you run out first.

1234
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: So they always announced to visit a team where your

1235
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: guys are taking the bus around to the top of

1236
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,400
Speaker 1: the thing. So myself and a couple of guys, but

1237
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: primarily me, I ran down to the bottom of the hill.

1238
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: And when I ran down to the bottom of the hill,

1239
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,160
Speaker 1: I looked up when they were descending right upon the

1240
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 1: rock before they touched the rock, and I waved them down,

1241
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: and I told him, why don't you come on down

1242
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,399
Speaker 1: here and get this butt kicking there? We got for you.

1243
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 1: O man, I didn't I might have used a little

1244
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,760
Speaker 1: more colorful language. I and and so I waived him down,

1245
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: and uh, they came down the hill and they proceeded

1246
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 1: to beat the absolute breaks off of us. I mean,

1247
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 1: you can't do that. It's kind of and still to

1248
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: the day. Um, you know, we take that from team

1249
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:29,320
Speaker 1: trying to do that. That might happen every time. Sorry, backs,

1250
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: we handled that. I have pretty good idea. It sounds

1251
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,040
Speaker 1: like he's experienced something like that. That's called the Bucky Brooks.

1252
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: The guys trying away from that's called Brooks. That's a

1253
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: funny experience. Hey dexter Man, we know you're you're busy.

1254
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,120
Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking some time out of your schedule, man,

1255
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: stay healthy the rest of the year. I hope you

1256
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 1: have a wonderful season, and whenever that time comes, we'll

1257
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: have to wait and see. Whatever that time comes, you

1258
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,960
Speaker 1: want to come to the NFL. We're gonna have some

1259
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: fun conversations and we cannot wait to catch up with

1260
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,560
Speaker 1: you down the road. Appreciate it, hey, but how great

1261
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 1: is that? Man? I tell you what the uh? The personality,

1262
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 1: the Big Fellows guy. For those who don't know, before

1263
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: we started the interview, we always have them to a

1264
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:11,960
Speaker 1: ten count. We always still make sure the audio levels

1265
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 1: are right, and Dexter goes, you know, do all you

1266
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 1: wanted English. I love that daddy. Man. I can't get

1267
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:22,120
Speaker 1: it up with Dexter. Man great, great dude, And like, man,

1268
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: I can't tell you enough. Like we always always brag

1269
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:27,040
Speaker 1: on he and Bryce Love, but they were teammates together

1270
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: and not only were they great players, they were great

1271
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,120
Speaker 1: people and so I was really excited. In fact, Dexter

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Speaker 1: was really really close to going to Stanford. Can you

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Speaker 1: imagine Dexter playing at Stanford? Love, like, man, that would

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Speaker 1: have been would have been him and Harrison Phillips too

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Speaker 1: decide that would have been nasty last year, something else now,

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Speaker 1: but he is. He was impressive. Man, I do feel

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Speaker 1: there's every now and then you kind of have those

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Speaker 1: moments you're like, I'm not I'm not crazy, right because

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Speaker 1: last year when I watched my compared to Lynnville Joseph,

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Speaker 1: for sure, he is a space eater. He is strong,

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Speaker 1: he is powerful. But I don't know how much wiggle,

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Speaker 1: how much burst he's got. I thought, maybe just need

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Speaker 1: to lose a little bit of weight, Maybe he's just

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Speaker 1: a little bit too heavy, But man, he's he had

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Speaker 1: nervous you. We couldn't even feel his foot so he

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Speaker 1: he even said it like that one leg. And now

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Speaker 1: this year, I'm seeing that more explosive version of somebody.

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Speaker 1: And we talked about with interior guys, if you can't

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Speaker 1: rush the passer is an interior defensive lineman. We saw

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Speaker 1: Vida Vet went pretty high last year, but it's hard

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Speaker 1: to vault yourself into that top five um if you

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Speaker 1: don't have a way to be a consistent presence as

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Speaker 1: a pass rusher. So that's that's gonna be big for him.

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Speaker 1: It is gonna be big for him, and that's the

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Speaker 1: one thing that he has to to to prove and

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Speaker 1: uh and talking to my dad, I was telling him,

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Speaker 1: I said, the one thing with Dexter, Dexter has to

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Speaker 1: prove that as an interior player he can be a

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Speaker 1: pass rushing presence. Because the guys that are valued and

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Speaker 1: coveted in the National Football League are the interior guys

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Speaker 1: who can get to the quarterback. It has to be

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Speaker 1: more than just a pocket pusher. You have to be

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Speaker 1: more than just a first and second down player. If

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Speaker 1: you're a three down player who can affect the passing game,

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Speaker 1: you have an opportunity to be a high pick. You

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Speaker 1: have an opportunity to be a guy that eventually signed

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Speaker 1: one of those big deals like we saw from Aaron

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Speaker 1: Donald and you know Atkins and others. No question, what

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Speaker 1: what what a fun fun dude man, So looking forward

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Speaker 1: to following him the rest of the season. Jim Nagi

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Speaker 1: was great today, had fun talking about a couple of

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Speaker 1: our takeaways from last week. Looking forward to the next episode.

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Speaker 1: We'll get into a preview in both the NFL weekend

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Speaker 1: as well as the college football weekend. That show be

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Speaker 1: coming up here, Uh momentarily a couple of days away.

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Speaker 1: We'll have another podcast for you. Anything we need to

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Speaker 1: promote here notebook what we got here? Buck, No, just

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about the kan City Chiefs offense and

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Speaker 1: why Tyreek Hill. A couple of weeks ago people laugh

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Speaker 1: when you said the Chiefs may have the best offense

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Speaker 1: in the football and football I think we might want

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Speaker 1: no more less. I saw that firsthand. No joke with

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Speaker 1: that Kansas City Chiefs offense. All right, that's gonna do

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Speaker 1: it for us today. Be sure to check out We've

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Speaker 1: got some preview videos for the NFL weekend, some of

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Speaker 1: the top games. You can find that NFL dot com

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Speaker 1: slash MTS video as well as YouTube dot com slash

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Speaker 1: NFL the audio podcast. As you're listening right now, be

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Speaker 1: sure to subscribe on Apple podcast. You can catch it

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Speaker 1: on NFL dot com slash podcast. Uh and keep you

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Speaker 1: leaving us those the ratings and reviews on iTunes actually

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Speaker 1: on the Apple podcast a little app there you can

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Speaker 1: leave us some reviews and rankings. That always helps helps

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Speaker 1: us out there, Sully. Anything else you want to add

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Speaker 1: before we get out of here, is a Tennessee lose

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Speaker 1: any more recruits in the last ten minutes. We're good.

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Speaker 1: I think that's it. Uh. Great, podfellas. Uh, let's let's

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Speaker 1: get this uh this next weekend kicked off. I'm ready,

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Speaker 1: can not wait. All right, that's gonna do it for us.

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Speaker 1: Sully behind the glass cam helping us out back there

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Speaker 1: as well. He's Bucky Brokunday Down, Jeremiah, We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks with Daniel

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Speaker 1: Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. For more, go to NFL dot

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