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Speaker 1: Hi, this is Zach Wheeler.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Phillies Show.

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Speaker 3: Ruben Tomorrow, Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd z Aleki. It's the

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Speaker 3: Philly Show. It's Wednesday. It's July second, twenty twenty five. Guys,

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Speaker 3: I hope you're doing mighty fine this morning.

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Speaker 1: Pet I got I got a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: rest respite.

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Speaker 4: I you know, got the rainout, so you know, didn't

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Speaker 4: have to work again.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well now we got it. Now we got a

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Speaker 3: double dip doubleheader on Wednesday. Tuesday night's game got rained out,

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Speaker 3: so doubleheader's day night doubleheader, old school double header, and

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Speaker 3: I guess old School's back to back one oh five

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Speaker 3: game one, Game two is at six fifteen. You know,

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Speaker 3: the last time the Phillies played the podres in a

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Speaker 3: double header on July second, You don't happen on that day,

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Speaker 3: all right?

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Speaker 1: Playing that game?

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Speaker 5: Was that.

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Speaker 3: It's the thirty two year anniversary today of the Phillies

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Speaker 3: podre playing the MITCHI Pooh double.

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Speaker 2: Header that ended at playing forty one in the morning.

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Speaker 4: I think I started the second game against Andy Bennis,

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Speaker 4: went oh for three and got yanked.

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Speaker 1: I think that yanked at three in the morning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, correct that game started at like one thirty in

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Speaker 3: the morning because I guess game one had like six

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Speaker 3: hours worth of rain delays.

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Speaker 2: That's something that would not happen today.

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Speaker 3: They would They're not going to be starting game two

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Speaker 3: of tonight's doubleheader at one thirty in the morning.

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Speaker 1: That is correct.

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Speaker 5: At least when the when the bar is closed in

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Speaker 5: Center City, everybody's like, let's go to the game at

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Speaker 5: two in the morning. People are filing in.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So game one will be I think it's Mick

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Speaker 3: Abel versus Nick Pivetta, and Game two will be Christopher

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Speaker 3: Sanchez against Dylan c So, uh, a lot of a

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Speaker 3: lot of ball today, guys, a lot of ball. But

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Speaker 3: Bryce Harper came back on Monday.

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Speaker 2: Big.

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Speaker 3: We were talking about he's he going to come back

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Speaker 3: on Monday. He's not going to come back on Monday.

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Speaker 3: He came back on Monday. So let's start there with

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Speaker 3: the first pitch. First pitch is brought to us exclusively

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Speaker 3: Bryce Harper on Monday, first game back, right wrist inflammation.

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Speaker 3: He goes over to with a walk, gets hit by

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Speaker 3: a pitch and do we have what are our expectations

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Speaker 3: of Bryce the rest of this season? Because he talked

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Speaker 3: before the game and he made one comment that got

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Speaker 3: everybody kind of in a big to do now he

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Speaker 3: said some other things lay in the conversation that really

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Speaker 3: didn't get written about too much, where he says, I

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Speaker 3: feel great, and no, I I you know, I didn't

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Speaker 3: think my wrist was going to feel any better. Are

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Speaker 3: going to get even better than it already feels, because

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Speaker 3: at the very beginning he said, yeah, my my rehab

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Speaker 3: was kind of at a standstill in terms of how

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Speaker 3: it felt, and everybody took that as, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 3: you still hurt. The risk is still killing him and

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Speaker 3: kind of, like I said, ignore the rest of it.

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Speaker 2: But what do you guys think?

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't know what my expectations are, but I

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Speaker 5: know they need him to produce in a big way.

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Speaker 5: They need him to be a big offensive addition here

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Speaker 5: as July begins. But what you're referring to in terms

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Speaker 5: of I guess he said it had reached a was

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Speaker 5: he used the standstill still? Yeah, I see that as uh,

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Speaker 5: and much to do to do was made about that

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Speaker 5: or much ado? What is it?

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Speaker 1: Much Ado? About nothing much Ado Shakespeare.

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Speaker 5: Shakespeare, they made a big to do and it was

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Speaker 5: much a do whatever. Anyway, I see him using the

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Speaker 5: word standstill almost like as a synonym for it's it

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Speaker 5: has stabilized. So it really didn't allow me. I think

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Speaker 5: it's just something they're gonna have to manage. It's probably

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Speaker 5: like a little bit arthritis, a little tendonitis. It's gonna

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Speaker 5: pop up from time to time, and you flush it

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Speaker 5: out of there. I mean, if it bothers him the

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Speaker 5: rest of the season, maybe you have to go look

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Speaker 5: at it in the off season in some way, shape

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Speaker 5: or form. But I think it's manageable, and I think

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Speaker 5: he can still be a producer here, and he needs

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Speaker 5: to be a producer.

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Speaker 4: I think it's more to management of pain and uh,

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Speaker 4: you know, pain injury. Uh, it's probably sits somewhere in

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Speaker 4: between those two spots. And and basically he's going to

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Speaker 4: play to tolerance. And I think it may affect his

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Speaker 4: swing a little bit. It may he's a pretty violent swinger,

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Speaker 4: and that's one of the big deals with him is that,

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Speaker 4: you know, can he tone it down a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's good for him, Maybe it's a maybe it's

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Speaker 4: something that residually makes it makes it and you know,

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Speaker 4: concentrate on making more contact. I mean just having his

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Speaker 4: presence in the lineup and putting him, you know in

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Speaker 4: the in the beginning of that lineup.

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Speaker 1: You start thinking.

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Speaker 4: About what the kind of production those three guys can

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Speaker 4: have at the beginning of that lineup. It can be

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Speaker 4: really interesting. And the fact that they slid him behind

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Speaker 4: Schwarber as opposed to the flip flop, which is what

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Speaker 4: was going on before, you know, I think Topper's doing

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Speaker 4: it because he wants to protect the best hitter in

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Speaker 4: their lineup right now, or the most productive hitter in

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Speaker 4: their lineup, and give him a little bit more protection

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Speaker 4: now that Alec Bohme has been has held off a

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Speaker 4: little bit lately.

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Speaker 1: So got no problem with it.

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Speaker 4: That may shift and they may bounce around, but and

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Speaker 4: you may see some combination of that of those.

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Speaker 1: Four guys at the top of the lineup for a while.

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Speaker 1: But that's okay by me. As long as he's in

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Speaker 5: But as for his condition, his his physical condition, the

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Speaker 5: health of the wrist form, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 5: Rob Thompson did not seem alarmed at all.

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Speaker 1: He did not know.

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Speaker 3: In fact, Jim he got he was asked about you know,

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Speaker 3: Bryce said he was at a standstill, and Rob looked

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Speaker 3: like almost stunned at the props, like he's yeah, perplexed.

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Speaker 2: He was like, standstill.

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Speaker 3: He's like, he's fine, So let's let the audience decide.

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Speaker 3: So these are I want to read you a couple

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Speaker 3: of the things that Bryce said he's and this is

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Speaker 3: the one that got everybody in a buzz. He said,

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Speaker 3: I thought we were kind of at a standstill of

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Speaker 3: feeling the same the last couple of days.

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Speaker 2: So a lot of people took that as.

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Speaker 3: He's going to be dragging this and flamed swollen wrist

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Speaker 3: of the battery box every night. He's like, well, screw it,

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Speaker 3: the wrist is, the wrist is banged up, and might

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Speaker 3: then he said later, he said, it feels way better

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Speaker 3: than where we where I was three weeks ago, So

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Speaker 3: I'm happy with where where we are. I kind of feel,

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Speaker 3: And then he said this again, it's kind of been

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Speaker 3: at a standstill the last couple of days of feeling good,

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Speaker 3: of feeling good. So he' stabilized, so hopefully it stays there.

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Speaker 3: In other words, and then he said, I'm gonna go

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Speaker 3: out there and play my game if it hurts. If

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Speaker 3: I heard it, it hurts, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: But I'm not really worried about that right now. I

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Speaker 3: feel great going into today. I'm happy with where I am.

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Speaker 3: So take whatever part of those quotes you want as

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Speaker 3: a Phillies fan. If you want to say that he's

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Speaker 3: you know, he's at a standstill and he's dragging his

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Speaker 3: wrists up there, go for it. But you kind of

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Speaker 3: have to take him at his word. And he says that,

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Speaker 3: you know, going into Monday's game, he said he felt great.

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Speaker 3: He also said, I don't know what it's going to

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Speaker 3: be like a week from now. But he also mentioned this,

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Speaker 3: and there are the next six Thursdays the Phillies do

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Speaker 3: not play a game I think until like the third

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Speaker 3: week of August. They have every Thursday off, So he's

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Speaker 3: gonna have some built in off days that there's not

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Speaker 3: going to be these you know, eighteen games out of

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Speaker 3: in nineteen days stretches. He's gonna have at least one

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Speaker 3: day off every week from now until mid August. So

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Speaker 3: I think that should help him out.

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Speaker 4: I think the other thing is it will be interesting

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Speaker 4: to see is whether he or not plays both ends

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Speaker 4: this doubleheader. It'll be an interesting test to see because

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Speaker 4: if he's not feeling one, he won't. And I mean

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Speaker 4: a lot of it depends on what the medical people

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Speaker 4: feel and what the what the what the player feels like.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got tomorrow off, Thursday off, but I would

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Speaker 5: think you want to see some pitches and get some

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Speaker 5: at bats. If you feel pretty good, you're out there

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Speaker 5: for two games. I agree, you're out there.

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Speaker 4: For I would agree a lot of it depends on

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Speaker 4: how If he really feels fine, then hopefully it'll get

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Speaker 4: his eight or ten played appearance.

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Speaker 5: If they feel him back for game two, you know

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Speaker 2: It is July.

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Speaker 3: It's July second, Ruben, when you were GMing, do you

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Speaker 3: get a little tingly tinglely sensation when the calendar flipped

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Speaker 3: from June to July, Because.

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Speaker 2: The end of the month is a big part of.

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Speaker 4: The season, and I love being in the by mode,

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Speaker 4: which is exactly what this team is. I've heard some people,

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Speaker 4: some pundits out there. I don't know if they should

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Speaker 4: be called pundits, but some folks out there saying that

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Speaker 4: they should sell.

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Speaker 1: Who said that, Oh no, I'm not gonna name names.

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Speaker 5: Their first place team.

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Speaker 4: It's the most silliest thing I've ever heard in my life.

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Speaker 4: But the reality of it is, this is exciting time,

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Speaker 1: Man, How aggressive?

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Speaker 5: How aggressive? How aggressive would you be if this was

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Speaker 4: I'd I'd be I'd be fully invested, I think because

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Speaker 2: And the Phillies have matched. Yeah, the Phillies have matched.

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Speaker 3: So do you want to do you want to take

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Speaker 1: It might.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it might not be the same. Rangers probably all agree,

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Speaker 3: I a little book about that, Ruben.

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Speaker 1: Gm that he's picked up the book. Guys, pick up

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Speaker 4: And the person who sort of architected that he was

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Speaker 1: I'll drop the mic on that for a second.

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Speaker 5: That's all pot ourselves on the back.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, everyone's about I mean the instant in this day

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, you can put a little the vinyls on the back.

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Speaker 3: Ridiculous, Jim, that's great, the vinyls.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, silly, Okay, Ruben, Seriously, you've established that you would

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Speaker 1: Yes, you're going for it. Yes.

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Speaker 5: Who's on the table. Who's an untouchable?

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Speaker 1: There are no untouchables for me except Painter. Okay.

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Speaker 4: Painter is the one untouchable I have and the rest

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Speaker 4: of them will move period.

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Speaker 5: I agree.

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Speaker 4: One untouchable player in the entire organization. His name is

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Speaker 4: Andrew Painter. Okay, and the rest of the players that

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Speaker 4: all right, All right, now, now, now you gotta do

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Speaker 5: I want Mason Miller and David Bednar.

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Speaker 2: He's pitched really well this month.

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Speaker 4: Seven eight because I don't think Bednar has been in

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Speaker 1: I'll give up as much one and two.

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Speaker 4: It gives me a chance to to get maybe a

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Speaker 5: Chapman and Miller will be awfully nice too, So Jim,

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Speaker 1: Huh.

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Speaker 5: Now, I like that he's got three or four four

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Speaker 1: I like the veteran. I like the veteran.

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Speaker 4: I know Bennar has been around, but he's not not

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Speaker 5: I liked Chapman too. I like, I would just love

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Speaker 1: So.

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Speaker 3: If you do that, though, that means you're not touching

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Speaker 1: And then you see and you see at some point

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Speaker 4: Have to move Crawford in any of those deals, you

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Speaker 4: Need or even the guy in Minnesota Byron Bux then

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Speaker 4: I think Duran you have a couple of years left

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Speaker 1: Where are they internally?

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Speaker 4: What do they have and what can they count on

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Speaker 5: Might be hot hand, might.

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Speaker 3: Be Ruben Durant has entered this season with three years

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Speaker 4: So two more years of control could could mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that.

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Speaker 3: That's steep price to pay, but you're trying to It's

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Speaker 1: But that's bold.

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Speaker 3: That is bold, and and and you know people that

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Speaker 3: either either you get the players and you make the moves,

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Speaker 3: You want the Phillies to go for it and try

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Speaker 3: He is going to get killed because you know, he

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Speaker 2: It's a game.

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Speaker 4: That's why it's difficult wearing the black hat and sit

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Speaker 4: I would take a chance because one it may not

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Speaker 1: To do it.

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Speaker 4: Because the Detroit Tigers are not a lockdown for winning

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Speaker 5: You can only win, as the GM President Baseball by winning.

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Speaker 5: That's the only way you win.

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Speaker 1: Exactly.

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Speaker 5: Remember the trade deadline? What was the trade deadline year?

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Speaker 5: Ruben was a GM. It might have been one of you.

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Speaker 5: Last years we were in Washington and they did nothing.

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Speaker 5: Remember that, Todd, Well, wait are you talking about the

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Speaker 5: You were kind of trying to move off off You're

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Speaker 5: We crushed you.

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Speaker 1: As you should have. I couldn't. There's nobody I can move.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's hurt.

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Speaker 5: Everybody wanted to give you nothing. They all wanted to

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 1: I do remember this probably thirteen.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there was, Yeah, there was nearly nothing going

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Speaker 1: Of I was trying to move like a J.

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Speaker 5: I was like, what, what's the most like the most

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Speaker 1: I mean they wanted to give me.

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Speaker 4: Like their thirtieth best prospect. They said, thirtieth best. Your

444
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Speaker 4: first best prospect may not be in the big leagues.

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Speaker 1: I mean, don't disrespect to Neil, but I mean I'm like,

446
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Speaker 1: what are you doing?

447
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is funny to hear about how other gams.

448
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Speaker 3: I guess you kind of have to do this, all right,

449
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 3: but other jams just just dump on all your players.

450
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Speaker 3: I remember back in the day, right people were calling

451
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Speaker 3: Ed Wade about Ryan Howard and one GM that Rubin

452
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Speaker 3: you know, said he's nothing but Sam Horn. He's just

453
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Speaker 3: another Sam Horn.

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Speaker 1: That was crazy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and then it's like, really.

456
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Speaker 1: He held out.

457
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Speaker 2: He's like he's he's a little bit better. He's gonna

458
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Speaker 2: be better than Sam like that.

459
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Speaker 5: Where do they find a hole in his swing?

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Speaker 1: You know?

461
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Speaker 2: The fifty eight home runs later, no doubt that.

462
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Speaker 1: I remember I was trying to move Marlon Byrd.

463
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Speaker 4: I had signed him to a two year deal and

464
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Speaker 4: there was a bunch of teams that needed right handed power,

465
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Speaker 4: and he had hit some balls, you know, he'd had

466
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Speaker 4: like twenty some home runs or whatever, and somebody wanted

467
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Speaker 4: to get what I asked for a compensation pick.

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Speaker 1: What is that the thirtieth fifth pick or thirty eighth pick, And.

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Speaker 4: The particular GM, who I have a great deal of

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Speaker 4: respect for, put a dollar amount of what they value

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Speaker 4: that thirty eighth pick at long term, and it was

472
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Speaker 4: something like seventy million dollars. And I thought to myself, So,

473
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Speaker 4: a guy you have not chosen yet, who is sitting

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Speaker 4: in somewhere in college, in high school right now, you're

475
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Speaker 4: putting a seventy million dollar value on that player. I said, well,

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Speaker 4: I want to see your I want to I want

477
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Speaker 4: to see your laptop to see what kind of you know,

478
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Speaker 4: what kind of stuff you're you're coming up with, what

479
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Speaker 4: your analytics folks are coming up with as far as

480
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Speaker 4: value on players, because the chance of that guy becoming

481
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Speaker 4: a major league player was probably like seven percent. And

482
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Speaker 4: now I can't even get Marlon Bird for the guy

483
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Speaker 4: who's got twenty some home runs, who's performing at the

484
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Speaker 4: major leagues. It was silliness and trying. And that's when

485
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Speaker 4: I thought to myself, Oh, I don't know if I'm

486
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Speaker 4: right for this job anymore. I don't think I'm valuing

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Speaker 4: the players properly or something.

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Speaker 1: It's weird. It was weird man to me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would love to be a flying the wall

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Speaker 2: out of whatever.

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Speaker 4: Kind of pacoda they were coming up with at that time.

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Speaker 1: I didn't have that. I didn't have that same guy

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Speaker 1: writing my programs except but.

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Speaker 5: When July comes for a for a GM. When July comes,

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Speaker 5: I mean, I imagine, you know, you're thinking about your team,

496
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Speaker 5: but also it's almost NonStop.

497
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Speaker 1: But what can I do? What can I do?

498
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Speaker 2: What can I do?

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Speaker 1: Right? It's it's fun. It's a fun time, man.

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Speaker 4: No, And the best part about this time is that

501
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Speaker 4: you can grat you sort of gather everybody because everybody

502
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Speaker 4: has to be part of this decision. You have to

503
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Speaker 4: be able to evaluating your own number one evaluate what

504
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Speaker 4: is this player going to become when I trade him?

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Speaker 4: And or what will he become and how will this

506
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Speaker 4: affect this long term short term. I loved having like

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Speaker 4: the guys like Salagustinelli, you know, being able to have

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Speaker 4: him available to ask him.

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Speaker 1: About a guy who's way down below.

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Speaker 4: Maybe I could snag a kid that's eighteen years old,

511
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Speaker 4: or whatever the case may be. It's just fun to

512
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Speaker 4: have all those people, all the department heads to get

513
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Speaker 4: there and discussing all this stuff.

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Speaker 5: So when Mick Abel pitches uh this afternoon Wednesday, afternoon

515
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Speaker 5: first came to the doubleheader Phillies front office and everybody

516
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Speaker 5: runs the Phillies. They're looking at him in two ways.

517
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Speaker 5: You know, how can he help us the rest of

518
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Speaker 5: twenty twenty five? And they're also thinking, can we afford to,

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Speaker 5: you know, move on from this guy if we get

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Speaker 5: the right piece back. They're kind of balancing, you know,

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Speaker 5: the two prongs of it all.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be. I mean, he's a guy that

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Speaker 2: I think. It's funny.

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Speaker 3: I feel like in the last week or two, everybody

525
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Speaker 3: kind of assumes that if they're going to make a

526
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Speaker 3: big trade, he might be the guy to go.

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Speaker 1: But you never know, you never know.

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Speaker 5: He could be in the bullpen.

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Speaker 2: He could be in the bullpen exactly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he could be a big bullpen piece in October,

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Speaker 3: you know, no doubt about it. But oh, all Star selections,

532
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Speaker 3: I think are going to be announced on Sunday. Let's

533
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Speaker 3: put our who's who's making the All Star team for

534
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Speaker 3: the Phillies.

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Speaker 4: MS, Turner the guys for me, and then you obviously

536
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Speaker 4: have Wheeler and Suarez.

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Speaker 2: About Sanchez, Sanchez think he.

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Speaker 4: Could I mean, if it continues, if you have if

539
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Speaker 4: he if he has another couple of really good starts

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Speaker 4: here coming up, then he's got a shot at it too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Nowadays, nowadays they make the announcement and then like half

543
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Speaker 3: the pitchers drop out because they're not going to pitch

544
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Speaker 3: in the All Star Game, and the eight guys get picked.

545
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Speaker 3: I think that's how Sanchez might have made it last year,

546
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Speaker 3: was a bunch of guys dropped out. So yeah, I

547
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Speaker 3: think Turner for sure. Schwarber Wheeler, yep, I.

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Speaker 5: Would love to see.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: I'd love to see Wheeler start that game. I mean

551
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Speaker 5: that ballpark in Atlanta. It's outside the city limits. You

552
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Speaker 5: actually have to cross the Chattahoochee River to get to

553
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Speaker 5: when you're driving up that freeway there. So, but it's

554
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Speaker 5: in the town called Smyrna and he was actually born there.

555
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,960
Speaker 5: He played in the Smyrna Little League. Wouldn't that be

556
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Speaker 5: really cool for Zach Wheeler to start the All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: It's a great storyline and it should right and it

558
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:01,240
Speaker 4: should happen.

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Speaker 1: He's the best pitcher they have.

560
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd love to see it.

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Speaker 3: It makes so much sense. You know, Paul's skiing courses

562
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Speaker 3: at a great year. But I mean, Zack Wheeler is

563
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Speaker 3: on a first place team with also Cy Young caliber

564
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Speaker 3: numbers and he's from Atlanta, So I think it would

565
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Speaker 3: make a lot.

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Speaker 4: I can't imagine that they wouldn't that that that the

567
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Speaker 4: people at Major League Baseball would not capitalize on that,

568
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Speaker 4: It would be ridiculous if they don't.

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Speaker 1: Now if if it turns out in the rotation, you

570
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Speaker 1: can't pitch, I get it. But he's the guy. It's

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Speaker 1: very simple, but no.

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Speaker 5: I also, if you're looking to capitalize and get buzz

573
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Speaker 5: and pop, Skeins is a pretty good place to go too.

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Speaker 5: The romantic in me would like to see Zach Wheeler start,

575
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Speaker 5: you know, a couple of miles from where he played

576
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Speaker 5: Little league.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that'd be fantastic. So Phillies again.

578
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Speaker 3: They play doubleheader on Wednesday, and then the Reds roll

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Speaker 3: it was written in the newspaper stories, Tim Wallack, it

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Speaker 3: was a three to two sladder. It was off the plate,

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Speaker 3: and so Tim Wallack was kind of walking on the

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Speaker 3: first baseline, and the old umpire Frank Pulley.

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Speaker 2: Rang him up right, rang him up, rang them up.

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Speaker 3: Dick Williams was the manager of the Expos, and after

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Speaker 3: the game he lamented the fact that that's how Lefty

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Speaker 3: got his three thousand strikeout. He's like, it would have

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Speaker 3: been great if it was like a more legit strikeout.

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Speaker 3: But he's like, I think Frank got caught up in

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Speaker 3: the moment a little bit, Like I think he wanted

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Speaker 3: Lefty to get that strike up. So our good friend

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Speaker 3: Chris Wheeler sent me he read the story, sent me

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Speaker 3: a text. He's like, I got to tell you this

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00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 3: story about before the game. So Wheels, before the game,

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Speaker 3: he was friends with Frank Pully. So he said before

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Speaker 3: every whenever Frank came into town, and he would always

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Speaker 3: go down to the umpire's room and say hi to Frank.

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Speaker 2: And so Frank.

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Speaker 3: Their chit Batton and Frank says the wheels. He goes,

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Speaker 3: where's Lefty at? What is he?

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Speaker 2: Where's he at?

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00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,719
Speaker 3: He's like, he needs three, he needs three to get

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Speaker 3: three thousand, and Frank looks at Wheels and goes, it'll.

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Speaker 2: Be quick, It'll be quick. So Dick Williams was correct.

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Speaker 3: Frank got caught up in the moment, maybe a little

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Speaker 3: bit in that first st inning, and as long as

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Speaker 3: it was close to.

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Speaker 2: The plate, he rang up Tim Wallack.

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Speaker 5: Well he could get away with it then because there

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Speaker 5: were none of the metrics, and there was no box

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Speaker 5: on the TV that they embarrassed the umpire with, and

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Speaker 5: no you know the ball going on the all the websites,

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Speaker 5: you can measure one millimeter. They Frank Pulley, he had

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Speaker 5: a wide one man, especially on getaway Day.

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Speaker 1: Well, I will tell you that it was a great

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Speaker 1: great I was batboying that day.

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Speaker 2: You were, Oh cool.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 4: I was the official bat boy in nineteen eighty one,

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Speaker 4: and that was before I sort of yeah, and that

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Speaker 4: was before I sort of relinquished that job in eighty three.

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Speaker 4: But I was the official bat boy at that point

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Speaker 4: and I was there for that moment, and it was

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Speaker 4: unbelievable because you know, Carlton and Schmidt were like my

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Speaker 4: guys growing up, So it was awesome to be on

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Speaker 4: the field for that.

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Speaker 2: That's very cool. That's very cool.

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Speaker 3: So so again, look at if you want to win

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Speaker 3: Thirteenth and Walnut in Center City before your next trip

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Speaker 3: to Citizens Bank Park. Guys, we'll be back later this

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Speaker 3: week to wrap up the podre series and do a

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Speaker 3: little look ahead.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just wanted it mentioned a couple of things. We

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Speaker 1: lost a couple of really really special people.

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Speaker 4: And Dave Parker Dave so unfortunate that we lost him

721
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Speaker 4: the Cobra, and we used to call him Parkway. He

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Speaker 4: was a teammate of mine and just a wonderful, wonderful man.

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Speaker 4: And for him to be to pass away just before

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Speaker 4: his induction into the Hall of Fame is really and

725
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Speaker 4: we're just just a great, great player, and I wanted

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Speaker 4: to give him some love. I remember one time the

727
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 4: Pirates in the and the Phillies were were actually getting

728
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,840
Speaker 4: into a fight. That's me back when the Phillies. Phillies

729
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 4: and the Pirates had a big rivalry and there was

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Speaker 4: a fight on the field.

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Speaker 1: I remember Mike Ryan Irish like in the middle of

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Speaker 1: the pile, all the way from the bullpen. He was

733
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Speaker 1: always scrapping. But my dad was standing with Willie Stargell.

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Speaker 4: It was Billy starge on one side, Dave Parker on

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Speaker 4: the other, and I was standing on the standing in

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Speaker 4: the dugout like, you know, watching this thing happen and

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00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: we're all piled up. But my dad was on the

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Speaker 4: sideline with in the middle of Stargell looked good and

739
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Speaker 4: uh and the Cobra.

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Speaker 1: And they were like messing with them, I mean talking.

741
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Speaker 1: My dad was, you know, my size, he.

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Speaker 4: Was tiny, and I'm like, I'm like, looking, are they

743
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Speaker 4: really are they messing with my dad?

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00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 1: Am I going to go and then someone grabs me.

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Speaker 4: Goes, dude, they're just messing with him, and you're not

746
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Speaker 4: going after you get your ass hand of tea.

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Speaker 1: They were giants.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, they were two, you know, two big guys,

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Speaker 4: and they were just grabbing my dad and shaking him

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Speaker 4: around and I'm messing with him.

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Speaker 1: My dad was like, don't you mess with me. He's

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00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: looking at it, brother. It's so funny.

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Speaker 5: I think Parker, I think Dave. I remember him well

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Speaker 5: for my youth. I mean I remember that throw in

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Speaker 5: the Old Dome and the All Star Game in Seattle,

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Speaker 5: and uh, I want to say he was like the

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00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 5: first time I ever heard the expression five tool player.

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00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,640
Speaker 1: Huh Okay, you know maybe he.

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Speaker 5: Was five tool right.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he could, he could run when he was young,

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Speaker 1: big man, he does, knees came out.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was.

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Speaker 5: That m VP season he had was amazing. I remember

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Speaker 5: the first a l CS I covered I would have

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Speaker 5: been eighty eight and he was in it. I think

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Speaker 5: it was the Yeah against it was he was with

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Speaker 5: Oakland against the Red Sox. And yeah, he was a

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Speaker 5: kind of a mythic figure. Giant man, big personality, a

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Speaker 5: lot of charisma.

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Speaker 4: Oh guy, and the other quick story I talked about

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Speaker 4: this on the air, but that was my very first

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Speaker 4: appearance in the major leagues was to pinch run for Cobra.

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Speaker 4: He got on base in the ninth inning. In the

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Speaker 4: eighth inning, bottom of the eighth inning, got a base hit,

775
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Speaker 4: hit a bullet off the right field wall, ball came

776
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Speaker 4: right back to whoever was playing right field for Detroit,

777
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 4: couldn't get the second base, so he's at first. They

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Speaker 4: sent me out there to pinch run, and that was

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Speaker 4: my very first time I ever got on the major

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Speaker 4: league baseball field.

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Speaker 1: That was my first appearance running for him.

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Speaker 4: I ran on, gave a little low five, got to

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Speaker 4: the bag, and then somebody buttoned me over to second

784
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Speaker 4: base and we ended up not scoring. But that's in

785
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 4: a whole nother story. But but yeah, that was my

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Speaker 4: first appearance. The only other person I wanted to mention,

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Speaker 4: of course, is John Desangro. Sang, who we talked about

788
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Speaker 4: what we called him uh died tragically in the last

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Speaker 4: you know, within the last few days. Sang associate producer

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Speaker 4: Temple Icon worked for John Cheney for years and years

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Speaker 4: and years. He was a sabbat great person, sweet sweet

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Speaker 4: man and we lost him a few days ago, and

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Speaker 4: he's associate producer NBC Sports Philadelphia, worked with him for

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Speaker 4: a long time and he was on those on those

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Speaker 4: charters for years and years and years.

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Speaker 1: Kindest soul in the world.

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Speaker 4: I just wanted to give him some love and love

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Speaker 4: to the family as well, that we lost a wonderful man.

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Speaker 1: Over And you probably knew him really well too, Jim.

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Speaker 4: I would think got to testing to him quite quite

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Speaker 4: quite well at NBC Sports.

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00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 5: Right, And that was a very nice tribute. And you're right,

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00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 5: you're right. Just an incredibly kind man. I don't know

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Speaker 5: any any other way to put it. And that's a

805
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 5: pretty pretty good legacy when people think you're a kind soul,

806
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 5: is a gentleman. He was a task master. I mean,

807
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 5: there was nothing he couldn't do and nothing he didn't

808
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 5: get get done. That's why John Cheney always wanted him

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00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: on his hip at Temple, That's why NBC Comecast wanted

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00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 5: him in their truck. And I, you know, I'm miss

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Speaker 5: seeing him. I you know, every pretty much every road game.

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Speaker 5: I would bump into him up in the up in

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00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 5: the dining room because we both like to get that

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00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 5: pregame coffee he would come up and fill up and

815
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 5: take his coffee back to the truck, and we always

816
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 5: have this thing. He'd say, coffee is really good here, Jim,

817
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 5: and it has a coffee tonight, John. So we always

818
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 5: had this this running sort of yelp review of the

819
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 5: coffee in real time. So really, but you're right, just

820
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 5: a good, good dude, and it was just heartbreaking to

821
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Speaker 5: lose him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, super nice. I just might image of John as

823
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,360
Speaker 3: always just him. I've always felt like he was always

824
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,400
Speaker 3: moving with the purpose. You know, he always felt like

825
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: he was wherever he needed to be he needed to

826
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Speaker 3: get there like five minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: Because it's like, you know, he's like hey, Todd Howard.

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Speaker 2: He was always he's always running. He had a job

829
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Speaker 2: to do, he got it done.

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Speaker 3: He was not kind of loafing around chit chat, and

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Speaker 3: you know he if somebody had to go somewhere, he

832
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: went there, He got his coffee, he went back to

833
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 3: the truck, He waited to go down the field, wherever

834
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Speaker 3: he needed to go, he went and did it.

835
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Speaker 2: John was always on the move. So just yeah, just

836
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Speaker 2: a super nice guy.

837
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 3: Always always had a hello, always, always always.

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Speaker 1: Prayers to those families, Prayers to him. Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: We will be back later this week.

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Speaker 5: Smell ya.

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