WEBVTT - TechStuff Interviews Preditor Chandler 0:00:04.200 --> 0:00:12.120 Get in touch with technology with tex Stuff from there 0:00:12.160 --> 0:00:15.280 and welcome to Tech Stuff. I'm Jovin Strickland, your host, 0:00:15.720 --> 0:00:18.479 and today we're going to take another peak behind the 0:00:18.520 --> 0:00:22.920 scenes at How Stuff Works. I have a predator in 0:00:22.960 --> 0:00:26.680 the room, which is our term for producer editors here 0:00:26.680 --> 0:00:28.920 at How Stuff Works. Chandler, welcome to the show. Well, 0:00:29.000 --> 0:00:30.880 thank you very much. It's good to be here. This 0:00:31.040 --> 0:00:37.040 is actually my first time ever podcasting. Yeah, you've appeared 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:38.959 in some of the videos for How Stuff Works. Yeah, 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.520 I've been in some videos because you knocked at cotting 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:46.000 away from me very brief cameo. So far, there seems 0:00:46.040 --> 0:00:49.199 to be an undercurrent of cruelty directed at me in 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:53.199 the What the Stuff series. It's fun. It's fun. I'm 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:55.640 not arguing that it's not fun, and I'm just saying 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.560 it's you know, I'm just detecting it. So I wanted 0:00:58.640 --> 0:01:00.600 Chandler to come onto the show so we could talk 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:03.240 a little bit about what what he does here, what 0:01:03.360 --> 0:01:05.720 it means to be a predator at house Stuff Works. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:09.039 And honestly, I don't know how how do people in 0:01:09.080 --> 0:01:12.920 the video department feel about the title predator? I loved 0:01:12.959 --> 0:01:15.360 it actually, first time I heard it because I immediately 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:18.760 think of Predator, the Schwarzenegger movie. But when I started 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:20.120 saying to other people and they're like, oh, what do 0:01:20.160 --> 0:01:21.399 you what do you do a house to works, I'm like, oh, 0:01:21.400 --> 0:01:23.280 I'm a Predator And then they get this weird look 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:25.200 on their face, like, oh, yeah, that can mean that 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:27.280 can mean something else too. Yeah, so I have to 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:30.920 explain it's a producer slash editor, right, So essentially what 0:01:31.040 --> 0:01:35.080 you're doing is two jobs. That's really what it boils 0:01:35.080 --> 0:01:37.720 down to. So so here at How Stuff Works. We've 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.200 we've got lots of different shows. What shows do you 0:01:41.280 --> 0:01:45.720 personally work on? Personally, I work on What the Stuff, 0:01:46.000 --> 0:01:49.680 which is our list based show where every week we 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:55.320 give four or five list items of something. It can 0:01:55.400 --> 0:01:59.360 be science, e. It can be pop culture, can really anything, um, 0:01:59.400 --> 0:02:02.400 but yeah, just tibots and information about each list item. 0:02:02.440 --> 0:02:04.320 And yeah it's a fun show to work on. Yeah, 0:02:04.360 --> 0:02:07.120 it's a little bit different from some of our other shows. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.120 Like there there's some conventions with What the Stuff that 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.600 aren't in other uh not all How Stuff Works videos. 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:18.040 For example, the idea of the cold open, uh, the 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.919 idea the shooting something that may or may not have 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:24.400 any relation to the content of the video. But it's 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:26.799 kind of a fun way to get into the video, 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:29.520 and I usually like to start it with a joke. Yeah, 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:32.240 just a little laugh. Usually mind tend to be self 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.880 deprecating once in a while, I'm doing a terrible impression, 0:02:35.560 --> 0:02:39.040 like Walter White or something. You got your Shakespeare, Yes, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:42.120 I got the Shakespeare monologue one coming up. So yeah, guys, 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:45.080 who if you are big into Shakespeare and you like 0:02:45.240 --> 0:02:48.600 tech stuff, you should definitely check that episode out when 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:53.080 it comes out, because I wax poetic um. Yeah, so 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.760 so What the Stuff is a little bit different in 0:02:55.080 --> 0:02:58.639 that respect, and it also means that, uh, we we've 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:04.280 also experimented going beyond the studio, right, because our brain 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:08.320 Stuff series that we shoot inside the studio, right, so 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:11.360 we're up against the what what's called the what would 0:03:11.400 --> 0:03:14.440 be called a psych if it were in fact, in fact, 0:03:14.520 --> 0:03:16.079 in fact, if it were a real psych wall, but 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:21.280 it's really a white backdrop. Uh spoiler for anyone who's like, oh, 0:03:21.360 --> 0:03:24.760 you're destroying the illusion of lamour. Um. But but what 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.919 the Stuff? We actually tend to go out at different locations, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:31.480 and not only that, but sometimes depending upon the episode 0:03:31.480 --> 0:03:33.400 and the amount of time we have. You will go 0:03:33.520 --> 0:03:36.200 so far as to set up separate shots for each 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:39.840 item in the list, right, Yeah, it just depends on 0:03:40.160 --> 0:03:41.880 I mean that it's I really feel like I do 0:03:41.960 --> 0:03:46.160 it more for my my own sake, just because I 0:03:46.320 --> 0:03:49.760 enjoy you know, different different setups, and I feel like 0:03:49.760 --> 0:03:53.240 it it adds a nice, nice flow, nice variety to 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.880 the the episode. But a lot of times I feel 0:03:55.920 --> 0:03:58.640 like the viewers don't even notice or care. They just 0:03:58.680 --> 0:04:01.600 want the information welltimes, which I think is hilarious. I 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:03.600 feel like I'm doing it more for myself, I think, 0:04:03.640 --> 0:04:05.000 I think for a lot of people, they may not 0:04:05.080 --> 0:04:07.600 pick up on it consciously, but it helps break up 0:04:08.360 --> 0:04:12.560 the monotony that you might have otherwise, Like if it 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:16.480 were just a person standing in front center frame of 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:20.400 a camera a green screen. You're right that that even 0:04:20.480 --> 0:04:26.279 with the benefit of of additional video or of illustrations 0:04:26.360 --> 0:04:29.680 or whatever, it can get very monotonous. And you know 0:04:30.040 --> 0:04:32.400 this is why, Like if you watch lots of very 0:04:32.400 --> 0:04:37.880 popular YouTube series, you'll see that people experiment with different angles. 0:04:37.920 --> 0:04:39.719 There are a lot of depending upon the show, there 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:42.680 might be a lot of jump cuts, cut of ways 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:45.000 to just random be roll. Yeah, we don't tend to 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:47.880 do that as much. Um, we don't like, Like, I 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:51.320 don't think I've ever seen any Hell Stuff Works episodes 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.479 that have had lots of jump cuts in them, where 0:04:53.560 --> 0:04:56.440 you know, like the little quig joke and then right 0:04:56.480 --> 0:05:00.719 back into the stuff the content. I know, I know 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.120 we've experimented with it at times, but yeah, I don't 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:08.039 think that's really the style I enjoy. Yeah, I feel 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.800 like most of the editors edit edit the videos to 0:05:11.440 --> 0:05:14.279 to be the way they would like to view them, right, which, 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:17.320 there's so many different audiences out there that prefer different 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:20.640 types of online videos. Well, well, let's let's walk through. 0:05:20.720 --> 0:05:24.320 Let's let's talk about what it's like, uh, to to 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:28.360 do a full episode of what the Stuff. So let's say, 0:05:28.440 --> 0:05:31.440 all right, you have it on your schedule, you know 0:05:31.760 --> 0:05:36.640 who is going to be shooting on a particular day. Um, 0:05:37.600 --> 0:05:40.360 what is it like like like from the point where 0:05:40.800 --> 0:05:43.360 you know, from scheduling all the way through shooting and 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:49.000 editing and then publishing. Um, well, so I don't write 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:54.920 the episodes. The writers right the episodes and basically once 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:58.400 we've decided which episodes we're gonna do, we uh, I 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:01.200 mean everyone's pretty busy around here. I've slee with multiple projects, 0:06:01.200 --> 0:06:03.960 so we just kind of we've we've decided Friday as 0:06:03.960 --> 0:06:07.360 our data shoot, but try to figure out time period 0:06:07.360 --> 0:06:12.640 that works for everyone involved the host UM and Casey 0:06:13.080 --> 0:06:15.440 is our DP, so he's always got to be there 0:06:15.440 --> 0:06:19.839 and make sure he can he can help out and 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:23.479 as it as it goes with the script, I basically 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.480 just read over it a few times before we actually shoot, 0:06:27.279 --> 0:06:32.680 and my injections are usually pop culture references or if 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.800 I think of interesting cutaways to add all write down 0:06:36.880 --> 0:06:40.039 or interesting references that kind of relate, um, you know, 0:06:40.560 --> 0:06:44.080 I'll suggest that. And then yeah, it's a matter of 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:48.560 finding a location. Um, it's kind of been dictated to 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.480 have a different location for every single episode, which is challenging. 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.160 It can be very challenging, especially as of lately because 0:06:55.200 --> 0:07:03.360 we're working we're working within the still developing which um, 0:07:03.760 --> 0:07:07.480 I don't know when will be fully complete. Yeah, it's 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.880 it's not fully operational. It's kind of like the Second 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:13.200 Death Star right in more ways than one. This is 0:07:13.240 --> 0:07:16.640 an enormous building and you've probably heard us mentioned Pont 0:07:16.680 --> 0:07:19.800 City Market in previous episodes, but just to give you 0:07:19.920 --> 0:07:22.720 an an indication, of what we're talking about here, because 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:25.360 I don't think I've ever gone into detail about what 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:28.920 Pont City Market actually is. So in Atlanta, we have 0:07:29.120 --> 0:07:31.600 this enormous building. I mean, it's essentially the size of 0:07:31.600 --> 0:07:36.120 like a city block almost, and it's it used to 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:40.560 be a distribution and retail center for Sears. And it's 0:07:40.560 --> 0:07:43.920 built right along the old rail lines that used to 0:07:43.920 --> 0:07:46.680 pass through well, I mean technically they still pass through, 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.000 but they're they're inactive, that um that passed through Atlanta, 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:54.720 downtown Atlanta, and once upon a time, the trains would 0:07:54.880 --> 0:07:58.520 pull up next to this enormous building. Cars would be 0:07:58.560 --> 0:08:02.840 decoupled from the train and rolled directly adjacent to the building, 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:05.239 like there was a The third floor of our building 0:08:05.800 --> 0:08:08.320 is at the level of the train tracks, and so 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:11.320 they would unload and load things there from this massive 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:14.240 distribution center. And it was also a shop, so people 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:17.080 in Atlanta could come here and shop for stuff, but 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.960 it was you know, it was also distributing goods throughout 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:25.120 the rest of Sears stores. In the Southeast Baseball Diamond. 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.840 There's a baseball diamond across the street, which is which 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:32.679 is where the Whole Foods parking lot is across from 0:08:33.040 --> 0:08:35.680 there's details you guys don't care about, but no, there 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.080 there was a there was a baseball park, and there 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:40.480 was also an amusement park nearby because there were natural 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.199 springs that were not far away before they got covered 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:48.720 up tragedy. Um. Atlanta is not known for keeping its 0:08:48.760 --> 0:08:52.960 history intact, but partially helped by the North as it 0:08:52.960 --> 0:08:58.199 turns out, But so so. Pont City Market is huge. 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.439 It is nine stories tall. It is you know, imagine 0:09:01.480 --> 0:09:05.240 like fitting I don't know, maybe four department stores in 0:09:05.360 --> 0:09:09.400 to end for each floor and like full department stores 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.880 and to end. It's huge, like to the point where 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:14.240 when we take the elevator to get up to this floor, 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:16.480 it's still a heck of a walk to get to 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:19.200 our office. There's getting to your office, and there's the 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:21.960 extra ten minutes it takes to to park and take 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:23.920 the elevator and walk down the hallway. Yeah, it's it's 0:09:23.920 --> 0:09:27.280 pretty it's pretty intense. So the good thing is that 0:09:27.320 --> 0:09:32.120 means potentially there are lots of interesting places to shoot. However, 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.640 we do we we make sure that we go through 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:38.679 the right channels to secure permission so that the management 0:09:38.720 --> 0:09:40.800 company knows that we are there. So we're not going 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:42.440 to be in the way of anybody. We also have 0:09:42.520 --> 0:09:45.160 to make sure that there's not gonna be any construction 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.160 going on because we don't want to get their way, 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.760 and we also don't want all that noise to bleed 0:09:49.800 --> 0:09:52.920 into our videos. So the idea is like anything that's 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:55.880 being developed, they don't want anyone to see it until 0:09:55.920 --> 0:09:58.400 it's ready. Right. That also makes so many spots that 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.040 are limited. There's did available one day and not the 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:05.280 next day, and some and some of them look really awesome, right, Like, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:09.200 there's there's a space and office space to be that 0:10:09.360 --> 0:10:13.000 is adjacent to ours or right across the hallway from 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:18.199 ours that looks like straight out of Highlander. It looks awesome. 0:10:18.280 --> 0:10:21.440 The Highlander fight should happen in in this space. There's 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.920 all these stone pillars and giant windows that looks out 0:10:24.920 --> 0:10:27.240 in the front of the property. It's pretty amazing. But 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:29.920 we can't shoot there, and I mean, I understand why. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:32.400 So when this place is completed, there will be a 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:35.400 lot of other interesting spaces, like the rooftop will have 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.920 some interesting spaces to shoot. But yeah, it's getting to 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.440 a point now where we may have to start using 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.800 the same locations and then alter the angle. But it's 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:48.599 it's it's amazing how much changing the angle can effect 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:53.120 the visual the visual elements of a shot. I mean, 0:10:53.160 --> 0:10:56.720 you can you can just pan the camera thirty degrees 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.160 and you have a completely new background and it looks 0:10:59.160 --> 0:11:01.720 like you're in a totally differ location. And that's a 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.240 trick that everybody uses obviously, not just not just people 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:07.960 making YouTube videos. Movie makers do this all the time. 0:11:08.679 --> 0:11:11.400 So all right, so you you've got the point, you've 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:15.240 got scheduled, you've you've scouted out your location. It's time 0:11:15.240 --> 0:11:18.840 to shoot. Explain to the audience what a shoot is 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:25.400 like from your perspective, Well, figure out uh yeah, the 0:11:25.559 --> 0:11:30.319 angle of the shot itself that we usually do, um 0:11:30.640 --> 0:11:33.120 we we we kind of have a formula as as 0:11:33.120 --> 0:11:36.280 of lately where we do a cold open and then 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.440 the host does the intro and the host host does 0:11:38.520 --> 0:11:42.240 an outro all within the same shot. And cold open 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.000 can be anything. It's literally just like a three to 0:11:45.080 --> 0:11:48.839 five second joke. It can be related to whatever the 0:11:48.840 --> 0:11:52.040 the content is, or it can just be completely random 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:54.880 that can be inspired by the the backdrop we're in, 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:59.400 or just whatever we're currently we've currently been talking about. Yeah, 0:11:59.440 --> 0:12:02.719 it can just be anything fun like that. And then um, 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:08.120 depending on the host, some hosts do um use a 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.600 telepropter and read off a telepropter because you know, a 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:12.960 lot of the stuff is like heavy information that there, 0:12:13.760 --> 0:12:15.400 right they're giving out. You want to make sure you're 0:12:15.440 --> 0:12:17.839 hitting the right facts and figures you're not. You don't 0:12:17.840 --> 0:12:21.040 want to gues estimate that, oh it's around twenty miles 0:12:21.360 --> 0:12:24.040 if you've got it's twenty three point seven miles. But 0:12:24.120 --> 0:12:26.600 that you know, of course, the more of that you have, 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.480 the harder it is to make sure that you're hitting 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:31.240 all the numbers correctly exactly. And yeah, that's we also 0:12:31.320 --> 0:12:34.720 have a script supervisor there that um just kind of 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:37.080 cross checks whatever is being said to make sure we're 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:40.400 saying it right and right, yeah, not missing anything or 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.840 making any mistakes. And then yeah, we get through the 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:47.600 meat of the shoot. Um, well, we usually push in 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:49.480 a little bit more for the meat was what we 0:12:49.480 --> 0:12:52.480 caught the meat the actual list portion of the episode. 0:12:52.520 --> 0:12:54.559 And by pushing you mean you get a tighter shot, 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.680 usually get a tighter shot. And from there we go 0:12:59.760 --> 0:13:03.200 through a few times. If if we want to experiment 0:13:03.240 --> 0:13:06.920 with the delivery of certain certain sentences or certain parts 0:13:06.960 --> 0:13:10.040 will do that. If someone mush mouth something, which I do, 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:12.880 I do pretty much at least once per episode. There's 0:13:12.880 --> 0:13:16.560 at some point where there's a usually a series of 0:13:17.080 --> 0:13:20.320 soft seas or says and at some point I'm either 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.960 slurring it or I'm running things together. Yeah, and and 0:13:24.000 --> 0:13:27.640 I will tell you I love him to death. Okay, 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.080 I'm proceeding this with I love him to death. But 0:13:30.200 --> 0:13:34.400 Ben Bolan can write some of the hardest things to 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.240 say out loud with the human mouth, right, They're brilliant, 0:13:38.840 --> 0:13:41.560 but they're hard to say. But when you complete it, it 0:13:41.480 --> 0:13:44.120 it sounds great. Oh yeah, no, if you can. If 0:13:44.200 --> 0:13:49.520 it's really putting the responsibility on the presenter, if the 0:13:49.559 --> 0:13:53.440 presenter is capable of taking the time necessary to make 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:59.440 certain they enunciate properly, then it sounds fantastic. Lauren does 0:13:59.480 --> 0:14:02.320 that to ourself too. She writes most of her own scripts, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:05.240 and she'll start fumbling away through a long sentence very 0:14:05.240 --> 0:14:07.400 difficult sinists to say, and she's like, who wrote this? 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:11.520 Oh yeah, I've done the same thing. Not, I mean 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.560 for forward thinking. I have. I have written episodes for 0:14:14.559 --> 0:14:16.400 forward thinking. And I get to a point where I 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.560 realized in my head this made perfect sense, but as 0:14:20.680 --> 0:14:23.320 as a person attempting to actually say it, it is 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:25.920 a better way to say, I've got to find a 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:29.720 different Uh. Yeah. So, and you usually are actually monitoring 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:32.800 sound during these so you you are present at these shoots. 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:36.160 Oh yeah, well, I mean yeah, I'm like generally directing, 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:39.040 if you will, and running sound too, because we kind 0:14:39.040 --> 0:14:41.880 of like to run with a skeleton crew, right. Oh yeah, no, 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.160 that moves faster that way. That's being generous. So we 0:14:44.240 --> 0:14:47.520 usually have one person on the camera, one person on sound, 0:14:47.560 --> 0:14:51.120 and then maybe you have a script supervisor, and then 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:55.680 and then there's the host, the host, the talent, the talent. Alright, 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:57.840 so I don't want to put you on the spot, Chandler, 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:01.720 but who's the best person on camera? Thank you? All right? 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:04.240 Well then, um, you know you heard it here first books, 0:15:04.760 --> 0:15:07.720 So okay, so now we've got the episode in the can, 0:15:07.760 --> 0:15:15.240 it's shot. What comes next? Ah, the editing comes next? Um. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:18.480 I generally, actually I don't even know if I have 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:21.560 an order of events. I generally just do whatever I 0:15:21.600 --> 0:15:23.400 feel like doing at the time. But yeah, it always 0:15:23.440 --> 0:15:27.120 begins with obviously downloading the footage, putting it all in 0:15:27.200 --> 0:15:33.360 the timeline within um the editing software. Um, I use Premiere. 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:40.000 We all the editors here now use Adobe, Adobe Sweet Creative, 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:42.960 Creative Sweets, and I stand by it. It's it's pretty 0:15:42.960 --> 0:15:49.560 amazing all the Adobe programs under one umbrella kind of software. 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:52.840 And UM, yeah, I used to be final cut, um 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.600 un till till till it's dying breath. I was that 0:15:56.640 --> 0:15:59.320 was all about final cut. Finally made the switch. I 0:15:59.320 --> 0:16:00.640 was like an old ramp. I was like, but I 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:03.960 know all my shortcuts on fine Okay, Oh no, I 0:16:03.960 --> 0:16:05.800 I was the same way. This is taking me back. 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:08.040 I was the same way going from word perfect to 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:12.080 word like word perfect, I knew all the keyboard shortcuts 0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:14.720 for everything, and then word I just felt was dumbing 0:16:14.760 --> 0:16:17.480 everything down these days. If you put me on a 0:16:17.520 --> 0:16:21.160 computer terminal, that's how old we're talking here, that's running 0:16:21.200 --> 0:16:24.000 word perfect. I doubt I could accomplish anything, at least 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:27.280 not in a timely manner. All right, So you're using Adobe, 0:16:27.720 --> 0:16:32.360 you are you're editing. So typically, do you have like 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.320 maybe an average range of how long, how many hours 0:16:35.320 --> 0:16:37.560 of editing it takes you to do a single episode. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:44.200 It really varies to how much content was how much 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:47.000 content was written, Usually the length of the scriptum directly 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.800 UM effects how long it takes edit. I'd say average 0:16:50.840 --> 0:16:53.520 is anywhere from eight hours on the shortest side to 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:56.200 sixteen hours on the longer side. Wow, So it could 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.240 be up to two days of editing for a single episode. Yes, yes, 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.840 and that also it depends on the content. How difficult 0:17:02.880 --> 0:17:06.600 it is to find UM I guess, I guess you 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.520 call it b roll or like pictures and video to 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:13.520 cut away to UM. And also like how kind of 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.560 into the episode. I am like, sometimes I'll get in 0:17:15.560 --> 0:17:19.760 the zone and I'll spend like two hours just working 0:17:19.760 --> 0:17:22.840 on like one kind of transition or section, and I'm 0:17:22.880 --> 0:17:24.600 like and sometimes it doesn't even work out. I'm like, 0:17:24.640 --> 0:17:26.399 I don't like this. This is terrible, Like I just 0:17:26.400 --> 0:17:29.280 wasted two hours. That's tough. So yeah, it also depends 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.439 on how and also how much time I have. Sometimes 0:17:31.440 --> 0:17:33.240 it's like, well, I've got six hours left before I 0:17:33.240 --> 0:17:38.879 need to publish. It's like I work until I guess 0:17:38.880 --> 0:17:42.320 it's finished and I just throw publish it. Well, Uh 0:17:43.080 --> 0:17:45.520 so with that in mind, you know this this these 0:17:45.560 --> 0:17:50.160 hours of of putting in for editing, Uh, are there 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.439 any particular episodes that you've done where you feel and 0:17:54.480 --> 0:17:57.280 we talked about this offline a bit, where you feel like, 0:17:57.560 --> 0:18:02.119 wow that that came together better than I had anticipated, 0:18:02.240 --> 0:18:05.320 or you know, this this flows, this ends up flowing 0:18:05.359 --> 0:18:08.600 so well. I'm really proud of this particular piece. Yeah. Yeah, 0:18:08.600 --> 0:18:11.720 there's quite a few. I I really liked. Um. I 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.560 really liked the one with the Star Trek gadgets, the 0:18:14.600 --> 0:18:17.240 five Star Trek gadgets. That's the one where Ben Bowlan 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.080 sat stone face next right, here was your co pilot. 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:21.960 You were at a bowling alley and we sat down 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:25.679 at a table that looked vaguely spaceship ish, like it 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:30.040 could have fit aboard the original Enterprise, and then I 0:18:30.040 --> 0:18:33.679 would deliver stuff into the camera and just stared straight 0:18:33.720 --> 0:18:36.080 ahead with no expression on his face. I also glad 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:38.480 that we made it work because you know, that day 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.919 we just had a bowling alley to shooting and were like, 0:18:40.920 --> 0:18:43.760 these are the episodes were shooting. What does Star Trek 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.800 have to do with the bowling alley? Absolutely nothing, right, 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:49.159 So yeah, the co pilot idea was great. A lot 0:18:49.160 --> 0:18:50.600 of people didn't get it there, like, what what does 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:53.679 that dude just staring into the camera for Yeah, it was. 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:55.080 It was one of those things where I was like, 0:18:55.119 --> 0:18:57.399 you know, I'm fine with it. And my favorite was 0:18:57.480 --> 0:19:01.119 that that Ben was wearing a sweat for that particular 0:19:01.119 --> 0:19:05.280 shoot that was reminiscent of Wesley Crusher's sweater from Star 0:19:05.359 --> 0:19:07.879 Trek the next generation had like little color stripes on it, 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:09.960 so it made me think of Wesley. I was like, 0:19:10.040 --> 0:19:12.320 this is perfect. He's He's like Wesley Crusher and of 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:14.439 course I'm not going to acknowledge him, and he's just 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.640 gonna sit here unhappy the whole time. But I thought 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:19.359 I had a really good flow to it. I really 0:19:19.359 --> 0:19:22.160 like the song I chose. It's That's another actually big 0:19:22.240 --> 0:19:29.679 challenge as finding um Creative Commons music to use for 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:31.680 these YouTube videos, because you know, like when you're putting 0:19:31.720 --> 0:19:33.720 out as many videos a week as we do, we 0:19:33.760 --> 0:19:35.680 can't afford to just buy a song for every single 0:19:35.720 --> 0:19:38.520 YouTube video. Yeah, how many? How many? What the stuffs 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:41.440 are published? Each week? There's as as and now there's 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.560 two each week. It used to be one, but around 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:49.160 I think like August or October last year, we started 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.640 going to a week. So yeah, I mean you're you're 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:55.600 talking about a lot of groundwork to get the just 0:19:55.680 --> 0:19:58.720 the basic components. It's not like we have We don't 0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:02.439 own a data base of music that we know, so 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:05.240 we we we look for the free music and uh 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:07.520 I found I found a couple of artists that are 0:20:07.520 --> 0:20:11.920 amazing and they put all their music out under what's 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:15.760 the free music archive dot com or dot org. That's 0:20:15.760 --> 0:20:18.360 where I go. But I'm just gonna say big, big 0:20:18.359 --> 0:20:21.520 shout out to Jizar j h z z a R. 0:20:21.560 --> 0:20:27.359 If you need good, like quality UM creative commons music 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.879 for your video, check him out. He's he's amazing, awesome. 0:20:31.760 --> 0:20:33.480 So all right, so we got to the point where 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.640 you've done all the edits, it's been eight to sixteen hours. 0:20:36.640 --> 0:20:40.520 You've got the transitions lined up, you have the supporting 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:44.439 material that is augmenting whatever the script and the host 0:20:44.560 --> 0:20:50.639 are trying to get across. You also, uh, at the 0:20:50.720 --> 0:20:53.760 at the end of the YouTube video when they're on YouTube, 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:56.560 you have the the various call to actions where they've 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.920 got the annotations or or rather the extra videos to point, 0:21:00.119 --> 0:21:04.320 do you pick those out? UM? I can sometimes if 0:21:04.359 --> 0:21:08.040 I if there's like other videos, even if it's like 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:11.640 a different UM not channel, a different show, if there's 0:21:11.640 --> 0:21:13.840 like a similar video that would relate to whatever the 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.720 content was in that particular What the Stuff, yeah, I'll 0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.439 pick that. But in general, if I'm just kind of 0:21:20.680 --> 0:21:25.080 throwing out annotations for whatever other other what the Stuff 0:21:25.119 --> 0:21:27.879 videos there, I'll just do the most recent stuff videos 0:21:27.880 --> 0:21:32.160 there that came out, so all that happens, you publish 0:21:32.200 --> 0:21:36.200 it and sounds. Can't forget about sounds. Yes, please, let's 0:21:36.200 --> 0:21:41.520 talk about sound. I didn't know anything about sounds going 0:21:41.600 --> 0:21:45.239 into this job, and I gotta say, like that was 0:21:45.920 --> 0:21:48.640 That's been the biggest learning curve for me, is realizing, 0:21:48.680 --> 0:21:50.439 like how I mean, if you think about it, like 0:21:50.560 --> 0:21:55.840 a video is one half the audio and one half visual. 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:58.919 I was always on the visual side of things and 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:01.639 don't really think too much about sound. And now now 0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:03.639 they've been doing it for a year, I realized I 0:22:04.000 --> 0:22:06.959 knew nothing, and I'm still learning to this day. Like 0:22:06.960 --> 0:22:09.720 you gotta gotta make sure the levels are right. You 0:22:09.760 --> 0:22:11.840 can't can't let the audio peak too much, can't let 0:22:11.880 --> 0:22:14.680 the music peak too much. It's been a big learning curve. 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:16.160 You'll actually if you go back and see some old 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:19.399 What the Stuff videos, you'll see some comments they were 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.840