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Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 3: Hey, what's up? My name's Jack. How are you Jack?

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Speaker 1: How am I? I'm all right?

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Speaker 2: Man?

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Speaker 1: Uh? This the head of this costume is.

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Speaker 2: Itchy, but I would yeah it looks itchy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I have. I mean yeah, it's it's interest because

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Speaker 1: my beard is growing out.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I guess let's sell you why I

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Speaker 2: called in and all that? I guess right? Yeah, taste god.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm an adult producer.

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Speaker 1: You're an adult producer, yes, sir?

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Speaker 2: Like you make baby.

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Speaker 3: No, I haven't made any yet.

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Speaker 2: No, thank good?

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Speaker 1: You produce adults. You're an adult producer?

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Speaker 2: Mmmm?

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Speaker 3: Adult content producer? How about that?

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Speaker 1: Okay, yes, yes, you're an adult content producer. Okay? Interesting? Yes,

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Speaker 1: yeah for seven ten years, you say.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep, yeah, mostly fetish work.

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Speaker 1: What are you based out of?

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Speaker 2: Originally I started in New Jersey, New York, which was

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Speaker 2: a great area, honestly, and then I moved down to Florida.

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Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, so you've mainly been doing fetish work. And

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Speaker 1: how did you get into this business?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Had I get into the business? Well, I guess

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Speaker 2: that kind of takes me back a little bit. My

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Speaker 2: parents got divorced when I was younger, I learned kind

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Speaker 2: of shattered my world. My mom made a false domestic

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Speaker 2: it with no evidence. I watched it happened. I almost

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Speaker 2: still very very traumatic, sad time for me, and it

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Speaker 2: just turned my world upside down. It changed my thoughts

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Speaker 2: my thoughts about everything, and uh, you know, a lot

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Speaker 3: My I wound up living with my dad.

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Speaker 2: The police kind of really hated me for a while

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Speaker 2: because I sided with my father and not my mom.

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Speaker 2: My mom just owned me and everything. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: so it was a really tough time. You know, I

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Speaker 3: So I didn't have a great childhood.

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Speaker 2: I got beat up all the time in school, no friends,

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Speaker 2: So that's what I did, started a side business, and

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Speaker 2: I wound up losing a whole bunch of money. Uh,

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Speaker 2: day trading on scott Trade at the time. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if you remember that website, Scott Trade.

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Speaker 1: I know, I have no idea what that is.

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Speaker 3: Oh geez.

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Speaker 2: Scott Trade was like, yeah, it was like one of

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Speaker 2: And then the only thing that was making money for

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Speaker 2: M you know, an hour to do your own thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so this was seventeen years ago.

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Speaker 3: I started seventeen years ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how old are you now?

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Speaker 3: I am forty one?

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Speaker 1: So what's forty one minus seventeen? Does anyone knows?

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Speaker 1: Twenty six? Okay, you were twenty six when you started

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Speaker 1: doing this? Interesting? And then what's twenty twenty five minus seventeen?

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Speaker 2: It's two thousand and eight, two thousand and.

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Speaker 1: Eight, because that porn is an interesting industry because I

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's gotten a lot more restrictive, for better or

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Speaker 2: You used to be able to make jokes like you know,

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Speaker 2: Can't do it anymore in any of the sites, So

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Speaker 1: Oh man, I got people on this, people on this podcast.

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Speaker 1: They got mad at me because I watched the Lego

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Speaker 1: movie Poor. Have you seen that. I was watching it

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Speaker 1: commentating you should watch it. It's good, it's good. Okay, anyway,

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Speaker 2: What I wanted to explain about, especially you're talking about

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Speaker 2: the censorship is terrible. Like for instance, a lot of

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Speaker 2: the stuff I shoot, like I said, is fetish stuff.

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Speaker 2: And the reason I got into fetish is because it

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Speaker 2: was like easily profitable. I needed money, and so I

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Speaker 2: got into like foot fetish tickling, that kind of silly

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Speaker 2: and it was easy to get girls to do. You know,

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Speaker 2: But you know even that, you can't even do that now.

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Speaker 2: to say the words the phrase tickle torture, can't do it,

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Speaker 2: that's too much. Let's let's suit an abuse.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's let's go let's go back, Let's go back,

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Speaker 1: let's go back here. So you're twenty six years old,

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Speaker 1: you're tying girls up? What is what is that? What

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Speaker 2: Oh? Tian girls? Uh? Geez, I mean that that that

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Speaker 2: We had kite Day. It's kindergarten. We had kite day.

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Speaker 2: So that means I got three hundred yards of nylon string.

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Speaker 2: Big mistake, Big mistake. I had a girl had a

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Speaker 2: It was always I've always was doing it, and I

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Speaker 2: guess I did it with my girlfriends. You know. I

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Speaker 1: This is known as shibari. Correct.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I wouldn't consider myself a master of shabbar, but

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Speaker 1: And so are all are the is all of the

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Speaker 1: lot of uh uh tickle torture as you say.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean folks both go hand and handed. I

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Speaker 2: just mentioned the word tick. I just mentioned the tickling stuff.

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Speaker 2: That's not like a main thing. I just mentioned it

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Speaker 2: just because it's the ridiculousness of the censorship. You can't

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you get.

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Speaker 2: Really really really weird requests. You know, I've got a

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Speaker 1: Like what do you mean by uncomfortable? Like a like

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Speaker 2: Like, imagine a girl at the beach and jumping around

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Speaker 2: foot to foot. Oh, it's hot. Oh, it's hot. This

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Speaker 2: all sorts of scenarios like that. Yes, it's hilarious that

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Speaker 1: Though, Okay, and then what is balloon fetish?

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Speaker 2: you know, it's a that's what they like. It's okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: And this has been okay, Well, let's talk more about

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Speaker 1: some of the other stuff you said. So that it

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Speaker 1: the thing with your your relationship with your mom had

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it really did.

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Speaker 2: It really did, because you know, I mean to have

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Speaker 3: My dad watching racing.

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Speaker 2: animal behaviorist. So and then you know, the police barge

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Speaker 2: that my father put my mother in a vicious headlock. Well,

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Speaker 2: There were no marks, my mom nothing. It just didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: Just what she said was the truth, you know. So

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Speaker 2: that's that changed my thoughts on like domestic violence and everything,

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Speaker 2: because anybody could say anything and it just didn't matter.

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Speaker 2: It had to be present had to be physically present,

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Speaker 2: they would arrescue you. Okay, so what so how in

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Speaker 2: the nineties, by the way, and.

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Speaker 1: you're fifteen.

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Speaker 2: I was about twelve thirteen when this stuff got went

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Speaker 1: All right, and you're forty one, just old.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's there's a difference between trusting somebody and

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Speaker 2: He has to have a seventy five page guesthouse contract,

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Speaker 2: I just thought it's it's nuts, Okay, And I'm much

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Speaker 2: And it's only gotten worse, it's only gotten worse, it's

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Speaker 1: No, I get you, I get you, I get you,

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 2: It's been it's been monetized and everything like like all right,

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Speaker 1: What do you what do you mean? It was monetized.

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Speaker 1: You're clear no, you're clearly, very clearly, very passionate about this.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, yeah, you get lonely sometimes. I mean that's

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Speaker 2: Unfortunately I should have seen it coming. All my friends

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Speaker 3: It was no longer a difference of opinion.

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Speaker 2: It was if you're not on my side, we can't

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Speaker 3: So that that's what happened. Very sad.

439
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,159
Speaker 1: So you're finding yourself lonely.

440
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,679
Speaker 2: Not really, I mean it's to pass. I mean sometimes

441
00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:55,680
Speaker 2: I get a little lonely, but it's not that bad.

442
00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:57,560
Speaker 2: I had. Me and my father are very close to

443
00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,480
Speaker 2: My father passed a couple of year ago. Obviously, me

444
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 2: and my dad were super close. And yeah, it's okay, sorry,

445
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:05,960
Speaker 2: I love my dad. He was great, you know, did

446
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 2: uh and uh? And it has made me closer to

447
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,280
Speaker 2: like my other sibling and stuff now though, so you know,

448
00:21:12,320 --> 00:21:14,080
Speaker 2: I still have I still have some family there, and

449
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: like I said, you know, I'm planning on you know,

450
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,199
Speaker 2: having my own family soon, and so I have and

451
00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,000
Speaker 2: I have people in the industry I talked to in

452
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: industry that you know, mostly sucks. You really can't talk

453
00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,640
Speaker 2: to too many people, and most people really don't don't

454
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 2: give a shit about you. It's all superficial, you know.

455
00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 1: Why, and and and and you know, I've I've been

456
00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,960
Speaker 1: to like a VN I've been around. I'm not like,

457
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,239
Speaker 1: I haven't like worked in porn, but like I've been,

458
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,400
Speaker 1: you know, friends with some porn stars. I've been around

459
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,680
Speaker 1: the porn industry. I found them, you know, and I

460
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: have a much more surface level involvement with it than

461
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: you do. But I've found them to be uh, pretty

462
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,520
Speaker 1: nice people, at least in my experience. Do you feel

463
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: like you haven't found friends within that.

464
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 2: I would say it's more of a business. I would

465
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: say that, you know, it's very difficult. I don't know,

466
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,679
Speaker 2: it's it's just in my experience, it's better just to

467
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:14,000
Speaker 2: kind of like stay stay friendly and like keep it

468
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 2: like on it somewhere somewhere at a professional level, because

469
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,439
Speaker 2: like you become friendly, you come to become friends, and

470
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 2: sometimes they wound up working for your competition or it

471
00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 2: just becomes like even messier when when they decide to

472
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,080
Speaker 2: end their career or their time with you. That's all.

473
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,639
Speaker 2: A lot of these careers are very very short. You know,

474
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,639
Speaker 2: a lot of these girls like ninety percent of the

475
00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: especially stuff I do, the fetish stuff where you don't

476
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,280
Speaker 2: even have to take off your clothes for fifty sixty

477
00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: seventy percent of it. I mean, you just get girls

478
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:40,800
Speaker 2: who just do it for like a few months. You know,

479
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:43,560
Speaker 2: it's like they're they're crazy. So I supported myself in

480
00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:46,399
Speaker 2: college when summer, you know, doing balloon fetish or tickling

481
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 2: fetish or whatever, you know, And that's and that's like,

482
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,159
Speaker 2: you know, so it's there's a lot of time to

483
00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:56,399
Speaker 2: become friends with with some of these girls. And you know,

484
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: and and now that I'm getting older, it's starting to

485
00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:00,240
Speaker 2: be a big age gap. You know, I'm hiring still

486
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: you're still hiring you know, eighteen to thirty year olds

487
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: and now you're forty one. So like, you know, it's

488
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: kind of look at them as kids now kind of

489
00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,080
Speaker 2: like I've kind of like I've grown a lot of them.

490
00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 2: Isn't that weird to say that, But it's it's true.

491
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: I think my thoughts on the whole thing of like,

492
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,040
Speaker 1: can I I'm gonna can I do fake? Can I

493
00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: do fake therapy with you?

494
00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 2: But let's let's do fake therapy.

495
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,400
Speaker 1: Let's do fake therapy. Let's do fake Let's do fake

496
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,880
Speaker 1: gecko therapy. I'm just gonna throw some shit. I'm gonna

497
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw fake gecko therapy ship out of you.

498
00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:47,040
Speaker 1: And I'm curious, uh what you think about it. This

499
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,520
Speaker 1: is a good total arm chair therapist stuff. Although I

500
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:55,080
Speaker 1: guess I guess that's what this is. It seems to

501
00:23:55,240 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: me like throughout your life and and I and I

502
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,120
Speaker 1: I empathize with you because it sounds like you had

503
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:09,399
Speaker 1: some really fucking uh traumatic, difficult, horrible shit happened to

504
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,160
Speaker 1: you when you were twelve, of like your parents being

505
00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: pitted against you. And you're fucking twelve, man, you shouldn't

506
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,080
Speaker 1: be having a deal with all that stuff, you know,

507
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: And then that gives you.

508
00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,639
Speaker 2: A few and that gives you yes.

509
00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 1: Let me, let me, let me let me real quick.

510
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,240
Speaker 1: But okay, and then you know your your parents pitting

511
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 1: pitting you against each other, just like having to deal

512
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,359
Speaker 1: with fucking shit that like you shouldn't have to be

513
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,960
Speaker 1: dealing with when you're a kid, and then it shapes

514
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:41,160
Speaker 1: your view of the world, shapes your view of of

515
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,399
Speaker 1: of women, of men, of how people are treated this

516
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: and then the other thing. And then you you grow

517
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: up and you kind of just like have this like

518
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:52,879
Speaker 1: snow like this like uh schema, like core beliefs about

519
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: the world and the people in it and whatnot that

520
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,639
Speaker 1: stem from when you're a kid and they snowball, and

521
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: they snowball, and then they they could stay with you

522
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: all the way up until you know your whole your

523
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: whole fucking life, and they're the lens through which you

524
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: view everything, and then you know it takes you to

525
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, place places like the red Pill or places

526
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,160
Speaker 1: like the men go on their own way and whatnot.

527
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: And you know, to me, I just think of like

528
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:28,199
Speaker 1: just in a pure observation of view. As we've been

529
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: having this phone call, it seems like you have a

530
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,240
Speaker 1: really really strong uh like views and opinions about the

531
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,639
Speaker 1: world and whatnot. And I think that, like, I'm a huge,

532
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: I'm a gigantic believer in that you find whatever you're

533
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 1: looking for, do you know what I mean? So, like,

534
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 1: for example, like if you walk around the if you

535
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,879
Speaker 1: walk around being like you know, uh, women are pieces

536
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: of ship and of people in general are liars, and

537
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 1: I don't think but I don't. I don't. I don't

538
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: think you do. I don't think you do. I don't

539
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: think you do.

540
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,959
Speaker 2: I think the laws are pieces of ship and they

541
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: give like It's like it's like as if the law,

542
00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 2: you know, like because if men had the ability just

543
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 2: to beat women up or something. You know, it doesn't

544
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 2: mean all men are bad, but the laws are fucked

545
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:19,199
Speaker 2: up and you could get the shit kicked out of

546
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 2: you and not have any you know, not have any consequences.

547
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,399
Speaker 1: Sure, but I'm just saying I'm just I'm just saying

548
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: I think that like if if you walk around with it,

549
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: I'm and correct me if I correct me if I

550
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:35,879
Speaker 1: am wrong. But you seem like you're carrying around a

551
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: fairly negative view of like people in the world in general.

552
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm pretty just. I guess it's you can be

553
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 2: pretty distrustful if everything that happened the other the other course,

554
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: saying I just want to throw out there just real fast.

555
00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 3: I forgot to.

556
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: Say it is is at the end of this with

557
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: my dad, you know, with all the accusations and everything,

558
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: it culminated in him trying to kill himself.

559
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:56,040
Speaker 3: He didn't die.

560
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 2: Lets let's listen, So like that's probably part of the

561
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 2: reason it's so intense for me, you know.

562
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: Jack, Jack, listen, you don't have to sell me on

563
00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: the fact that you went through some tough shit. Man,

564
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: I really, I'm I'm sorry to hear about all that stuff,

565
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: and I understand why it's been so impactful for you

566
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 1: your whole life. I think what I'm what I'm getting

567
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: at is just that like I think when you experience

568
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 1: horrible shit at like a young age, it's just like,

569
00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: is really defining to the way you view the world.

570
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: And I think if you hold on to that and

571
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: you continue to view the world in such a way

572
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: of like, oh, I can't trust anyone and the world

573
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: is fucked up and whatnot, it just continues to it

574
00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: just continues to be reality because it's what you're like, like,

575
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: that's like, that's what like a manifestation is. Like I

576
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: don't like, I don't think manifestation is like a woo

577
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:45,440
Speaker 1: wu thing.

578
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying.

579
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm letting it allowing my childhood trauma to

580
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 2: overtake things. But I just I don't like I would

581
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 2: agree with you, but these the laws enable this. The

582
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 2: laws enabled this, okay, like in the state that might

583
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 2: be Dad was in. Like right now, you look the

584
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 2: laws right now. Did you know that getting the silent

585
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:03,919
Speaker 2: treatment to your wife you can go to jail. So

586
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 2: if she's yelling at you and screaming and you refuse

587
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,920
Speaker 2: to talk to her, you can be arrested for that.

588
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 2: If you growl at her, you can be arrested for that.

589
00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 2: If you greet your teeth at her, you can be

590
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 2: arrested for that. It's all in the law. It's I'm like,

591
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,919
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm quoting the law and so like again,

592
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 2: you know, this is not something that is like, oh,

593
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,440
Speaker 2: it's just like you know, I'm remembering my dad and

594
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 2: the bad things that happened. It's it's it's supported by

595
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,919
Speaker 2: the law. It's backed up by the law, and like,

596
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: I just can't abide it. I can't abide it. Maybe

597
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 2: maybe it's you know, maybe one day when the laws changed.

598
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 2: You know, I have no idea, and I'm not the

599
00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,480
Speaker 2: only one that feels this way. Everybody knows that nobody's

600
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: getting married about everybody.

601
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 3: Population crisis, get.

602
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 1: I get you and listen. Listen, Here's the thing I

603
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 1: don't I'm not. I ain't in the business of talking

604
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: about I ain't in the business of the baiting about

605
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 1: the laws. But I'm more kind of interested and curious

606
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: about just your life. Okay, So like what uh I mean?

607
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: What do you do all day?

608
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 2: What do I do?

609
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 3: Well, let's see, I can.

610
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: I've been producing for like the super long time, so

611
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,840
Speaker 2: I have a huge backlog of content. I kind of

612
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,360
Speaker 2: I had a girlfriend, got that depressed, got dumped, and

613
00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 2: I have like a whole bunch of extra content. So

614
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 2: I can stay home and not do anything. I can

615
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 2: only shoot like two to three times in a month.

616
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 2: Maybe I could do it as much as I wanted,

617
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 2: as little as I want, I suppose. So I'm most

618
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,680
Speaker 2: of the most I have, Like I have, seriously have

619
00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:32,600
Speaker 2: probably more free time than like probably most Like I

620
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 2: don't know what to do with it. Sometimes it's I'm

621
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,160
Speaker 2: thinking about doing other things by now, like trying to

622
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: move on from this career.

623
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, having having too much free time will

624
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: make you go fucking insane.

625
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 2: Right, And you know you can only stare at like

626
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,760
Speaker 2: your bank account and your crypto investments and your mutual

627
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 2: fund for so long. Yea, So it's kind of like, Okay,

628
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:50,960
Speaker 2: I'm bored with this.

629
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: I've been working out more.

630
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: I've been working out a lot more. My dad had

631
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 2: a bad heart condition that eventually that eventually took them.

632
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: So you know, I'm trying to eat hard, healthy and workout,

633
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: so I do that.

634
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 3: Work.

635
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: I try to, you know, I'm like, I'm really seriously

636
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,880
Speaker 2: like researching gestational surrogacy options to start a family and

637
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 2: stuff because I'm getting old and I better make a

638
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 2: decision on that.

639
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: So when you're so, I'm curious about the Okay, So

640
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: when you're you say you have too much free time, right, Like,

641
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,479
Speaker 1: when you have all this free time and it I

642
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: assume you naturally gravitate unconsciously towards stuff when you're idle.

643
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: What is that stuff?

644
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 2: Well, like nowadays, it's just like looking to like do

645
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,560
Speaker 2: something different, Like I really want to talk about what

646
00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: the ideas I have to do, like go off into

647
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 2: the vanilla world. The vanilla world means anything that's not adult.

648
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: So like but I'm I am looking to make a

649
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 2: transition into the vanilla world, which I can do because

650
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,600
Speaker 2: like no one knows my face you know Jack, Jack

651
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:47,360
Speaker 2: isn't my real name.

652
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: So okay, what is what does a what is? What

653
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,160
Speaker 1: does your transition into the vanilla world look like?

654
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 2: Well, like I said, I just don't want to get

655
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 2: too specific with it, but it will obviously not involve

656
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: the little content probably any more. But I but at

657
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 2: the same time, like I said, I have a huge backlog,

658
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: so like I have like six five six years worth

659
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,800
Speaker 2: of stuff I can just release and still make money

660
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,960
Speaker 2: if my vanilla if my venilla adventures don't work out,

661
00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: so probably you know, you know, looking looking to be.

662
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 3: An entrepreneur like my dad.

663
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: You know, my dad was an entrepreneur's whole life.

664
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 3: I have been too.

665
00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,719
Speaker 1: Do you have Do you have siblings?

666
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 3: Mm hmm yeah, And.

667
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: What's their deal? How are they doing?

668
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: He or she went with my mom and uh and uh,

669
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,920
Speaker 2: I love them a lot. I really care about them,

670
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: and you know, uh, unfortunately, you know, they bulldozed by

671
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: my mother and her side of the family, and it's

672
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 2: a whole bunch of and I think, uh, my sibling's

673
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:50,760
Speaker 2: slowly coming out of it though. My mom's older and

674
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: she can't really keep her stories together anymore, and she's

675
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: has life to lie about my father and now she's

676
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 2: come up with some really ridiculous, silly lies. And you know,

677
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: now my sibling is kind of like, hmm, you know,

678
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 2: do you do you have much of all the time?

679
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 1: Do you have much of a relationship with your mom

680
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: at all?

681
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 3: I love her, I think I love her still.

682
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: After my dad died, you know, I things changed a

683
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 2: little bit for me with my mom, but she still

684
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 2: carries like all this anger and hate and everything else.

685
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 2: And it's it's just depressing to listen to, I guess,

686
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 2: and it's so it's like it's it's hard sometimes, I guess,

687
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: you know, there's no way for me to like, you know,

688
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 2: get her. I me know, after divorce, my dad never

689
00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 2: you know, made his peace at my mom and never

690
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: told me never to go see my mother or anything

691
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: like that. Never said that, and no matter all the

692
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 2: terrible things that she said. But but even even though

693
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 2: my father's dead, my mom still says terrible things.

694
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:50,240
Speaker 3: So you have our it's something ridiculous.

695
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: You have one other sibling.

696
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: You know, possibly I don't want to get too specific,

697
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: but all right, I've had You've had unfortunately, I've had

698
00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:59,960
Speaker 2: my family attacked over my business.

699
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: So do you have a good relationship with any of

700
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: her siblings.

701
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think that they've it's been repaired somewhat.

702
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 2: I would say, like on a scale of one to ten,

703
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: it was like a two, and now it's probably like

704
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 2: a five or six, like average, maybe a little, I

705
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 2: want to hope above average. Hard for me to know, man,

706
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 2: because even't had such a good I haven't had a good,

707
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 2: healthy family dynamic with anybody but my father since like,

708
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 2: uh like nineteen ninety nine, twenty six years or something

709
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 2: like that.

710
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: So you know, it's really tough for me to gauge

711
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 3: this everybody.

712
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this all right, Like you know, when

713
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 2: when after my dad passed, everything, people were a lot

714
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 2: nicer than me than and you know, things seem to

715
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 2: have cooled off a little bit. I don't know. I

716
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: don't really know what that's about. I don't know if

717
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 2: that's because like everything has been like dispersed estate wise

718
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,000
Speaker 2: or what. I just don't know. So, like I guess

719
00:33:56,040 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: time will tell, you know, I hope. So I love them.

720
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:01,320
Speaker 2: I get my siblings, I have, like you know, nephews

721
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 2: and nieces, and I get them presents, and I try

722
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 2: to be a good uncle. So I mean, you know,

723
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 2: that's all I can do, right, There's really nothing else

724
00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 2: I can do, so excuse me. I definitely offer to

725
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 2: hang out with them more than they offer to hang

726
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 2: out with me.

727
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 1: I guess did did your did the ship that happened

728
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,960
Speaker 1: in your family like affect any anyone else? Like as

729
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: much as it seems to have affected you?

730
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: Well, my parents were kind of estranged from like their

731
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 2: cousins and their aunts and uncles through other weird stuff

732
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:37,319
Speaker 2: that happened before I was born. So I mean like

733
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: they really didn't seem to care too much the rest

734
00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: of my family. I mean, it affected my siblings very negatively.

735
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 2: One of my siblings, you know, had kids really early

736
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 2: and I really shouldn't have.

737
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:54,040
Speaker 3: But it happened, so, you know, and then I'm grateful for.

738
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,000
Speaker 2: My nephews and nieces, so it's okay, But you know,

739
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 2: did it just it just she? You know, this the

740
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 2: state very typical story of you know, some a divorced

741
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,719
Speaker 2: girl like with daddy issues, you know, and you know

742
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: she has a kid really young and so like that

743
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: that happened and that was very stressful, you know, And

744
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 2: that was also very hurtful because whenever the remember the

745
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,680
Speaker 2: you know, whenever there was a baby or anything. You

746
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 2: know that that was also used to kind of like

747
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 2: just hurt me and my dad, like, you know, they

748
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,640
Speaker 2: wouldn't tell us about the pregnancy, you know, the invite

749
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: my dad to the hospital for the birth, you know,

750
00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. And it lasted, it lasted a

751
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 2: long time, like when when my when my dad passed,

752
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: like there was another baby and they had not told

753
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,719
Speaker 2: me and uh me and uh my dad about it

754
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: for months and then like after they did, like the

755
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 2: only time she sent like pictures to him was when

756
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,560
Speaker 2: she you know, was what like unfortunately it was one

757
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 2: like you know, things were too far gone in the hospital.

758
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: He never even opened them unfortunately. So I mean, it's

759
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 2: it's sad, but it's is what it is. So I mean,

760
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,719
Speaker 2: you know, so yeah, things really suck there.

761
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: I I I'm very curious. Have you ever talked to

762
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: a real therapist about any of this stuff?

763
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: And if oh god, okay, all right, well okay, I

764
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: had I had so many of them. Just ask me

765
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,879
Speaker 2: what I did wrong to like have my mom like

766
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:21,879
Speaker 2: like not like me, Like that's pretty much what turned

767
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 2: into is like what would you do? You know, it

768
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: was always they always wind up siding with the mother.

769
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: I only had like one decent therapist who told me like,

770
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 2: and this is when I was younger, and he was like, look,

771
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,120
Speaker 2: if your mom is like very hostile towards you and

772
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: says very negative things about you, just have to get

773
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 2: away from her because everybody's gonna like take what your

774
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: mom says that like with a huge amount of weight

775
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,359
Speaker 2: to it. So like you just have to get away

776
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: from her. And so like I did that for a while,

777
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,600
Speaker 2: you know, and uh, you know she doesn't. She just

778
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:50,840
Speaker 2: seems to attack my dad lately, not me anymore.

779
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:55,360
Speaker 1: So are you and your mom still? Like do you

780
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: see it sounds like you see her often?

781
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if i I'm yeah, if I if

782
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: I want to if I want to see you know,

783
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: if I want to see my siblings. You know, I

784
00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: got to see my mom sometimes, So you know, I mean,

785
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 2: I I don't, like I said, it's weird, Like it's

786
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: it's a hard thing. It's a very hard bond to break,

787
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: you know, a parent child bond. So you know, you

788
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: could beat it with a sledgehammer and hit it with

789
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 2: an axe and sometimes it doesn't break. And it's so

790
00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: it's kind of like still there. Like if somebody hurt

791
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,040
Speaker 2: my mother, I'd be very upset and I'd be looking

792
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,240
Speaker 2: for you, you know what I mean, Like I wouldn't

793
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 2: be happy, and I wouldn't I wouldn't sit there and like, oh,

794
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,520
Speaker 2: just deserts haha, you know ding dong the witch is

795
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 2: dead or something. I wouldn't I wouldn't be like that.

796
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:35,160
Speaker 1: Yeah.

797
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: Maybe if I was in my teenage years, I might

798
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 2: have told you that because of how much how fresh

799
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: it was. But now it's like, you know, so, so

800
00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 2: I still I still care about my mom, you know

801
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:43,960
Speaker 2: what I mean?

802
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,399
Speaker 1: You strike me as you strike me as caring very

803
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: deeply about your family in general.

804
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know I could be part of the reason.

805
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: You know, my family's uh mostly Italian, so you know,

806
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 2: like other parts of my family that I've seen very

807
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: warm with each other, it is not so with with

808
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 2: my with with me though.

809
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 1: So do you never you've never had a real therapist

810
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 1: tell you anything remotely helpful about all this? Because I listen,

811
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just this is just arm chair.

812
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 3: It's tough. I've had a lot, I've had a lot

813
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:15,960
Speaker 3: of people.

814
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of people because you know, like

815
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: I kind of like start hinting them in the idle industry,

816
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 2: especially with female therapists, they want to throw me out.

817
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: I had one female therapist, Uh not not that shoot.

818
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: That didn't matter if she was female for this one,

819
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,360
Speaker 2: but uh, you know, she was nutty about the COVID shots.

820
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: And you know, because I didn't get a COVID shot

821
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:34,840
Speaker 2: and I had gotten monoclonal anybody's, she was upset and

822
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: threw me out. Like I was like, Okay, see you later, lady.

823
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 3: I coughed them a way out, just on purpose.

824
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: Fucker.

825
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 3: Well, so well, let me tell.

826
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: You something I was too. I'm sorry, but let's listen you.

827
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 1: I'm just, I'm just I don't know why I feel

828
00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: inclined to continue to play arm chair therapist here, although

829
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: I okay, you we.

830
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 2: Can you do.

831
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: We can both agree here. Jack, like you, you're not

832
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 1: like you're not a You're not a dunce like you

833
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,879
Speaker 1: like like you know you're holding on to something right,

834
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: like you. You have to be aware enough the fact

835
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: that dude like you like you know that you have

836
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 1: to know. You don't need a therapist to tell you. You

837
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: have to know it's seems to be blatantly obvious in

838
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 1: your life that you're a whole, like just fucking hole.

839
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: It's like a you're like holding onto a knife stuck

840
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,160
Speaker 1: in your chest or something like that. Like you're just

841
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: holding holding onto something. Man, I don't know. I I like,

842
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: did that resonate with you? Like that's just the vibe

843
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,800
Speaker 1: I'm getting is that you're just like you're holding deeply

844
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,760
Speaker 1: onto this crazy weight that is permeating through.

845
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: Because I got I got stabbed when I was kids.

846
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: Though it's not there anymore.

847
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it, I've got holding on to weight, but.

848
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: Like, uh, and I'm not a real therapist or or

849
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: or a god or whatever. I don't know what it

850
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: takes for you to I don't know what it takes

851
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: for you to to to drop it and let and

852
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: take the knife out of your chest. And I don't

853
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what that looks

854
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: like for you to let it go.

855
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 2: But uh, I don't think it'll ever happen. I had

856
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 2: a beauty man. Let me tell you, why do you think?

857
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 2: Why do you?

858
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: Why do you hold on? Why do you? And again

859
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna fucking tie this back to what we

860
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: I was saying earlier of like you find what you're

861
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 1: looking for, right, why do you think you'll never let

862
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 1: it go.

863
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 3: Again?

864
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,479
Speaker 2: I guess I just told it totally. It just comes

865
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: down to the fact that this stuff is enthrined in law.

866
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: It's it's it's entrined in law. Like I had.

867
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,760
Speaker 1: Forget about I forget about the laws for a second.

868
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: Just I'm like, just your own life, dude, Like you

869
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like just forget forget about the the.

870
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,719
Speaker 3: You know, the the.

871
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:10,480
Speaker 1: Just you forget about your own life for if I'm

872
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 1: forget about the laws, just like your own life, man,

873
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 1: Like whatever it is you feel like you're holding on to,

874
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 1: Like why why are you still holding on to it?

875
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: Hmmm? Like when when you say holding on to it?

876
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,399
Speaker 2: So you mean like I guess, like the stuff with

877
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 2: my mom and my dad and all that kind of stuff.

878
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 2: Is that what you mean? I mean, I guess.

879
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 1: I mean it's like it's like it's evolved beyond I

880
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: mean again, I'm I'm I feel bad because I'm like

881
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: just playing full arms tre Thervist. But like it's, yes,

882
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: the stuff with your mom and dad, but it's evolved

883
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 1: into a multi branched thing within you. It seems.

884
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: Right. I guess, uh, you know, it just I don't know.

885
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:51,120
Speaker 2: I guess it's just it just it was, like you said,

886
00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,280
Speaker 2: it was a bad time in my life, and uh,

887
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 2: it really affected me. And it it opened my eyes,

888
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 2: you know how you like you know, once you see something,

889
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: you can't unsee it, you know, like once you find

890
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 2: out that certain certain Christmas characters aren't real. I don't

891
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: want to read anything for your kids and might be listening,

892
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 2: but like, like you know, that's it. You can't you

893
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 2: can't undo it. And like the magic was gone that day,

894
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 2: the day that my mom called the police and my

895
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,719
Speaker 2: dad and made up a story, all right, made up

896
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 2: a lie and said jammed a gun against her head.

897
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:20,839
Speaker 2: That changed my life. It just changed it. It's there's

898
00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: like it was a lie and it didn't matter. I

899
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 2: watched I watched my dad get in trouble for it. Anyway.

900
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 2: The police threatened to arrest me if I didn't shut up.

901
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 2: I was twelve, like they treated me like I was

902
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 2: an adult. I so like, you know, it's it's unbelievable.

903
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, all right. So like I just that's what

904
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: that's it's just never gonna. I don't know, it's how much.

905
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: How am I.

906
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 2: Supposed to get away from that?

907
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: And like I'm I'm I don't want to listen, man,

908
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,000
Speaker 1: I don't want to sit here and be like just

909
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 1: I'm not going to sit here and be like, why

910
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 1: don't you just drop your childhood drama? It's that easy.

911
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't think it's that easy. If it

912
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 1: were that easy, everyone.

913
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 2: It just because it because it could happen to me.

914
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 2: It could happen to me. I could be with that,

915
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 2: I could be with a girl and and she could

916
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 2: just call the police. She didn't have to call the police,

917
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 2: So forget about the police. You just get bored with

918
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,080
Speaker 2: me and divorce me and then ruined my life. And

919
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: like it's just not worth it to me. Look at

920
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 2: all the rich guys who aren't married, who aren't married,

921
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:09,680
Speaker 2: lyle look at it, look at the dude.

922
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: But dude, I again, I'm I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm

923
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna again. I'm gonna respond to that the same like

924
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,120
Speaker 1: a fucking rock could fall out of a tree and

925
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 1: hit you on A billion horrible things could happen to you.

926
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: But every day, dude, taking a bunch of horrible things

927
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: can happen to you as a result. Like just it's

928
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 1: just like a It's like, I just don't really And

929
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,759
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm a huge hypocrite because I do this.

930
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, no, no, no, let.

931
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: Me just let me finish because I'm speaking broadly here.

932
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 1: I'm a huge hipicker because I do this. But I'm like,

933
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm really not a fan of like fear

934
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:54,239
Speaker 1: based scenario planning. I I I I don't think that

935
00:43:54,520 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: fear based life living in scenario planning is a good idea.

936
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: I know from experience that it's not a good idea.

937
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid.

938
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 3: I'm not afraid of anything.

939
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid. I'm not living in fear.

940
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: I just throw all my money taken from you. Oprah's

941
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: that married either. It happens with rich, rich women too.

942
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 2: She said she got to date some dude for she's

943
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 2: been dating some dude for like twenty nine years.

944
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:15,399
Speaker 3: Why don't she.

945
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 2: Married him because she doesn't want to.

946
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: You just want to have access to his money, to

947
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:19,120
Speaker 3: her money.

948
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,600
Speaker 2: Duh. I mean, like it's it doesn't you know, it's

949
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,440
Speaker 2: it's it's just like, I'm sorry. The laws have changed

950
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 2: to the point where we're like, you're just gonna be

951
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:28,359
Speaker 2: a miserable It just it can be a misery if

952
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: you find the wrong wrong gal and she decides to

953
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: ruin you.

954
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 3: She could take your children, she could go raise your childs.

955
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 2: I've watched my friends have kids and then their sons

956
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 2: get raised by like sacks of shit, the worst people,

957
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 2: because they you know, because you can't control it.

958
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 3: After she has custody, you can't control who she dates.

959
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 2: That you know, your kid comes back to you with

960
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 2: a busted up lip and everything, and you can't do

961
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 2: anything about it. I would never be able to deal.

962
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 3: With that, Lyle. I'd be in a prison cell.

963
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 2: So there's no way in the world that I put

964
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 2: myself in that position where that it could happen to me.

965
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 2: I would just be like living my life on the edge.

966
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: Like drop, I'm not I understand. I'm not telling you,

967
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm not telling you that you should

968
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 1: get married. That's not uh the thesis of what I'm

969
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,959
Speaker 1: attempting to say at all. I want to say this too.

970
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,359
Speaker 1: I've been looking for an opportunity to say because I've

971
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 1: been thinking about this a lot, and maybe you're the

972
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:24,280
Speaker 1: guy to have this argument with. But and I'm gonna

973
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say a bunch of hippie ship right now.

974
00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 1: But I've been thinking about it.

975
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:33,520
Speaker 3: I should have smiled the first.

976
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 1: I just I think that like, uh, like the gender

977
00:45:40,360 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: wars are like peaking really hard right now, and like

978
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: you see it on the internet and whatnot of like,

979
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,439
Speaker 1: you know, people being like men are like this woman,

980
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,919
Speaker 1: and I think I think it's I just think it's

981
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: kind of well, I think it's stupid because it's like,

982
00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:01,399
Speaker 1: no matter who you like, if there are things in

983
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: the world as a man that are you know, uh

984
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: it struggles individual to that experience, and then there are

985
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: things in the world as a woman that are struggles

986
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 1: individual to that experience. And like this the constant like

987
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: a dick measuring contest of like which struggle is worse,

988
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: I think is like unproductive.

989
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's terrible. It's horrible.

990
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: It's destroyed, it's destroyed relationships and love and all sorts

991
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: of things. Yeah, I agree with you, it's terrible. I

992
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 2: mean there's nothing I can do about it, though, you

993
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm not I'm not a I'm

994
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,120
Speaker 2: not stronger than feminism, and neither of you.

995
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 3: So like, what do you.

996
00:46:49,480 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 1: People, it's not about it's not about being strong. What

997
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: do you mean by stronger than feminism?

998
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,080
Speaker 2: Well, well, like in other words, there's you know, been

999
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: a huge, huge push for at least domestic saw it's right,

1000
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 2: viola wah and all that stuff, violence against Women's Act

1001
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: and all that kind. There's something called the Deluthe model

1002
00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:06,880
Speaker 2: which was which was cooked up by some big fat,

1003
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 2: big fat bitches in Michigan. Is the thing that got

1004
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 2: my dad arrested. Work in the absence of in the

1005
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:15,399
Speaker 2: absence of like evidence of force, like in other words,

1006
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: marks on someone's body or something. You arrest a person

1007
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 2: who looks more likely to who looks more likely to

1008
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 2: commit abuse, which of course is always always always the man.

1009
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 2: So that's what I mean. So like, it's these these

1010
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 2: forces have been you know, fighting against the family unit

1011
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 2: for many many years.

1012
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 3: And this is me.

1013
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: I'm a fucking porn producer telling you this. I'm a

1014
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,319
Speaker 2: fucking porn producer telling you guys this. You should guys

1015
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,399
Speaker 2: should really take note of that that this is coming

1016
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,200
Speaker 2: from a fucking porn producer that I'm telling you that

1017
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 2: this stuff has destroyed families. I'm not I'm not a

1018
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 2: professor qualified.

1019
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: Jack. Are you there, Jack, I'm here, Yeah, of course,

1020
00:47:54,040 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 1: Sam Jack, I'm gonna I'm gonna let you go. But

1021
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: before I do, I want to I want to say this.

1022
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: I genuinely, sincerely hope that you find uh uh some

1023
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,240
Speaker 1: semblance of peace and happiness in your life.

1024
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 2: I really do, and I appreciate it.

1025
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 3: I think I'm pretty close to it.

1026
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 1: It's just really all I have to say to you,

1027
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 1: I think, is that I that's that's that's that's that's

1028
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 1: the main, that's the main thesis of what i'd like

1029
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: ah to convey to you before we.

1030
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 2: End this far. Well, I'm sorry if I upset you

1031
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:39,800
Speaker 2: or anything.

1032
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:42,359
Speaker 1: You didn't you you didn't you didn't no, no, no, no no,

1033
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: you didn't upset me at all. I and I you

1034
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: didn't upset me at all. And I I listen. I

1035
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 1: appreciate you being uh vulnerable with us and like sharing

1036
00:48:53,800 --> 00:49:00,560
Speaker 1: this stuff. I hope that this conversation was prettyductive in

1037
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: some way, shape or form two uh to your life,

1038
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:07,560
Speaker 1: even if minusculely.

1039
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 3: It feels good to get it out. Man, I really

1040
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 3: appreciate it.

1041
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 1: Okay, good. Yeah, Just I don't know, man, I I

1042
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: I wish, I wish I could help you let go

1043
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 1: of whatever it is you're holding on to. But you know,

1044
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,320
Speaker 1: I just I hope you find some semblance of ah peace.

1045
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:28,600
Speaker 1: I really do.

1046
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,239
Speaker 2: M I mean, like I said, I just don't feel

1047
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 2: like I'm I don't know if holding on to something

1048
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 2: is right. It's just it's affected me. It's it's opened

1049
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 2: my eyes to like what the dangers are, you know?

1050
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: And I just I can't unclose my eyes, you know

1051
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 2: what I mean. I just can't close them again, so

1052
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: like I can't, you know, erase it.

1053
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,040
Speaker 1: But it's not about it's not I don't think. But

1054
00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: it's not about like you're operating on some kind of

1055
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: like binary You're operating on like a binary system of

1056
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: the eyes closed and the eyes shut. I'm sorry, that

1057
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: was I fucked up. You're operating on like a binary

1058
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 1: system of like the eyes closed versus the eyes open,

1059
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,800
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't like I'd like to introduce

1060
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 1: a z axis here where there's uh multiple ways to

1061
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:21,839
Speaker 1: interpret the thing. There's there's multiple things to have your

1062
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: eyes open to and multiple ways to interpret them, versus

1063
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: this binary that you're living in of like I have

1064
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: taken the red Pill, and I now fundamentally understand the

1065
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 1: existence and and I fundamentally understand how society works. I

1066
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: don't I think that's I don't like that binary way

1067
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: of thinking. I don't think it's good.

1068
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:45,879
Speaker 2: I was in red Pill. Even when I was thinking

1069
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,759
Speaker 2: that stuff, there was no such term. You know. It's

1070
00:50:47,840 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 2: just it was just me reading the laws and being like, Wow,

1071
00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 2: I don't want to do this. That's that's merely saying

1072
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,400
Speaker 2: in the library and and you know, in my in

1073
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 2: my town, reading the laws and saying like I don't

1074
00:50:56,920 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 2: want to do this. That's that's really what happened to me.

1075
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 2: I mean, it's that I wasn't This is all before

1076
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: like you know, any kind of like you know, red Pill.

1077
00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 3: Guy or whatever, any guru. There were no guru was

1078
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 3: back then. There was nobody.

1079
00:51:08,239 --> 00:51:09,560
Speaker 1: Well, Jack, is there anything else you want to say

1080
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: to the people the computer.

1081
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 3: Before we go?

1082
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:15,000
Speaker 1: No?

1083
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: Nothing, really, I mean, thanks thanks for having a chat

1084
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 2: with me. I'm sure. I'm sure some people we think

1085
00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm crazy or stupid or really smart, you know whatever.

1086
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 3: Who knows.

1087
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: So, I don't know, have a good one and you know,

1088
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: keep doing your show, man. I really enjoy your show.

1089
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:28,200
Speaker 3: It's a really good show.

1090
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:29,480
Speaker 1: Thank you, Jack, I appreciate it.

1091
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: Man.

1092
00:51:29,640 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: You have a good rest of the day.

1093
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:32,760
Speaker 2: Have a good one man YouTube.

1094
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: Goodbye Jack. That was an interesting fun call. I don't know.

1095
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,359
Speaker 1: I want well, I don't know. I mean that I

1096
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: think I'm playing such armchair fucking therapist right now, but

1097
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I mean, it's just I don't know,

1098
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 1: it's just sad. I mean I could tell that that

1099
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: guy was just like holding on to a lot and

1100
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: just just just wouldn't let it go. And I don't

1101
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,399
Speaker 1: know how to get someone to let it or if

1102
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:10,439
Speaker 1: you can get someone to let it go. But like, fuck, man,

1103
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: just you know, that's a bummer. I hope he's all right.

1104
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just want I just want. I

1105
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: just want world peace and uh a giant chicken parmesan

1106
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: sub would be nice anyway. Thanks for listening to that

1107
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:35,839
Speaker 1: phone call.

1108
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 4: Hello, Hello is this Lyle?

1109
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 1: Yes? Who is this?

1110
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:47,880
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, I'll go by.

1111
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: Sam, Sam. Hi, Hi Sam. How's how's life? How's life?

1112
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 1: How's it going for me? It's going good? Actually, I

1113
00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: think it's going pretty good. I'm enjoying being live.

1114
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: You know what, the crazy man.

1115
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: It is crazy. The worst part about like, uh, I

1116
00:53:14,280 --> 00:53:16,000
Speaker 1: was gonna say, the worst part about like getting out

1117
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 1: of a depression cycle is when you start liking life

1118
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 1: again and then you're like, oh fuck, this is good.

1119
00:53:20,560 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 1: I don't want this to end. This is good, and

1120
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: that's depressing. No, I'm I'm enjoying life. I'm enjoying life

1121
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:32,959
Speaker 1: on a very normy plane plane right now, and I'm

1122
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: liking it.

1123
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 4: And what was the good part of the depression cycle

1124
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:38,839
Speaker 4: that you didn't want to leave?

1125
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: The good part? Yeah, Well, like I guess what I

1126
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: meant was like, if you're depressed, then you and then

1127
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 1: you start thinking about like, uh oh, we're all gonna die,

1128
00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:51,359
Speaker 1: and then you get like nihilistic and you're like we're

1129
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,360
Speaker 1: all going to die. You're like, well, at least this

1130
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: will be over. But then when you get happy again,

1131
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: you're like, oh fuck, I don't want to stand this

1132
00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:59,480
Speaker 1: is nice. Anyway.

1133
00:53:59,719 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 4: That's really identify with that right now? No, no, no, no,

1134
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:03,920
Speaker 4: that makes total sense.

1135
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: That's a lot you know what we can talk about.

1136
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:13,279
Speaker 1: We can talk about that, but I I don't think

1137
00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:16,400
Speaker 1: I want to right now. I'd rather talk about anything else.

1138
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,319
Speaker 1: What's going on with you, Sam, how's life? What's up?

1139
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 1: What made you want to.

1140
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 4: Call it right now? I've been trying to call you

1141
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 4: for months earlier in this year, I actually I got

1142
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:37,360
Speaker 4: a divorce and ended like a ten year toxic, abusive relationship,

1143
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 4: and I moved across the country by myself, and everything's

1144
00:54:42,280 --> 00:54:43,279
Speaker 4: been great since then.

1145
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:44,880
Speaker 2: Wow.

1146
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really know where to start. I have

1147
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 4: so many friends now. I didn't have any friends where

1148
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:56,319
Speaker 4: I lived before. I was pretty isolated, and I now

1149
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 4: live near someone I actually grew up with in middle school.

1150
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 4: I didn't move back to my hometown, but yeah, and

1151
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,360
Speaker 4: she's introduced me to a bunch of new friends. I

1152
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 4: have so many new friends. I have a new relationship

1153
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,400
Speaker 4: that's like so much better. And it's crazy how much

1154
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 4: my life has improved in one year. You know.

1155
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:22,560
Speaker 1: Cool? Remind me again when you said you made this move.

1156
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 4: So I moved officially in July. Okay, packed up my

1157
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 4: two cats, put them in the car, and drove across

1158
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 4: the country with my dad. Now I'm living in California

1159
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 4: with my mom.

1160
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,080
Speaker 1: Where did you meet all these new friends.

1161
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 4: In California? Here where I live?

1162
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: I live in LA and now, well, I guess, like

1163
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:50,480
Speaker 1: through what means?

1164
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 4: I mean, oh, through my one friend that I grew

1165
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 4: up with. I went to middle school with her, and

1166
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 4: she happened to move out here a couple of years ago.

1167
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:02,360
Speaker 4: She works in in you know, La out here, she

1168
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:08,480
Speaker 4: works in video games, and she just like is friends

1169
00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 4: with everyone else in LA that makes video games. It

1170
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:13,239
Speaker 4: seems like she has so many she knows everyone here.

1171
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 4: It seems so Yeah. I've kind of just got sucked

1172
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 4: into her friend group.

1173
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,879
Speaker 1: It's been really fun, cool cool and hawd you meet

1174
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:25,480
Speaker 1: this new uh, this new boyfriend?

1175
00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 4: I also met him through her.

1176
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: Oh wow, this lady's done a lot for you.

1177
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, Oh my gosh, I'm I'm feels so blessed to

1178
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 4: be able to just reconnect with someone who I've been

1179
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 4: friends with for such a long time. And like a

1180
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 4: lot of people tell me they moved to LA and

1181
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 4: it's a big city and it's really hard to make

1182
00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:51,359
Speaker 4: friends as an adult. It's so difficult. But just having

1183
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 4: someone here who you know, is basically just handed me

1184
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 4: so many friends. If she's sharing all her friends with me,

1185
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 4: it's been great.

1186
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: Nice, nice, that's good. Yeah, A lot of people they

1187
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: don't want to mix their friend groups. A lot of

1188
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: people are kind of antsy about that because there's a

1189
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,120
Speaker 1: lot of like they feel some sense of responsibility if

1190
00:57:15,160 --> 00:57:17,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't go well, you know, they feel some sense

1191
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,280
Speaker 1: of responsibility for things to mesh, so they don't want

1192
00:57:20,320 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: to do it. But your friend seems like she's very

1193
00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 1: generous with her life. That's nice.

1194
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, she's so generous. She's the nicest. I

1195
00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 4: love her so much. Yeah, I've never understood why people

1196
00:57:32,640 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 4: don't like to mix their friend groups. But yeah, I

1197
00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:37,120
Speaker 4: guess what you just said makes sense. I feel like

1198
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 4: they have to maybe facilitate the relationships then the friendships.

1199
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: So do you work in video games? I do not.

1200
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 4: I work as an analyst. I do a boring office job.

1201
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,000
Speaker 4: I get to work remotely, which is pretty cool, pretty good.

1202
00:57:55,320 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 4: But no, no, I mean it's good. It's it's so

1203
00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 4: nice to have a job, especially when so many of

1204
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 4: my friends are like struggling to get jobs in their

1205
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 4: industry right now. But I just feel like so unfulfilled

1206
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,800
Speaker 4: doing spreadsheets all day.

1207
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:18,960
Speaker 1: What would you do if you could do anything?

1208
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 4: I could do anything. Yeah, I would like learn how

1209
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 4: to sew. I already liked to crochet, I would probably

1210
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:31,040
Speaker 4: maybe learn how to knit, and like I just like

1211
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 4: to make blankets, I would want to learn how to

1212
00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 4: make clothing. And this is, you know, in an ideal

1213
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 4: world where I don't actually have to make a profit

1214
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 4: or an income to live, and I would just like

1215
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 4: make clothes and blankets and give it to people who'd

1216
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 4: need them. I don't dream of like making money.

1217
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: M It sounds like you have a nice life. What happened?

1218
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 1: So where did your Where did you move from? You

1219
00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 1: don't have to give me the longitude and latitude of it,

1220
00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:08,120
Speaker 1: but like what part of the country I moved from?

1221
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 4: Florida?

1222
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 1: Florida? And do you still have any ties to Florida?

1223
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,720
Speaker 1: Besides like that the bad relationship? Like do you have

1224
00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: friends there or family there?

1225
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 4: I have a couple of friends, I have one family

1226
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 4: member that lives out there. But for the most part, no, no,

1227
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:29,640
Speaker 4: like strong relationships, no strong ties.

1228
00:59:30,480 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. Is that where you grew up?

1229
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 4: No? I did not. I grew up in Ohio.

1230
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: Anything going on in Ohio? Still no?

1231
00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 4: No no friend or sorry, no family left out there,

1232
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 4: so really no reason to go back. I have one

1233
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 4: good friend out there that I grew up and went

1234
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,120
Speaker 4: to high school with, but it's been probably two or

1235
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 4: three years since I visited him.

1236
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: Okay, so in your new friend group and I like this.

1237
00:59:59,440 --> 01:00:02,520
Speaker 1: I think this is an inspiring story because how old

1238
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: are you.

1239
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 4: I'm twenty nine, I'm turning thirty in two.

1240
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:11,040
Speaker 1: Months, turning thirty in two months, and just now coming

1241
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: into what the way you're talking about? This sounds like

1242
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 1: it's like the most beautiful season of your life thus far.

1243
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:21,680
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's true.

1244
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,760
Speaker 4: K Man, I'm so happy right now. But let me

1245
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 4: I've been struggling just this entire year. I don't know

1246
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 4: where what even to start talking about. But this time

1247
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 4: last year, I actually like had just married this person

1248
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 4: who treated me so horribly and we had a terrible

1249
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:46,080
Speaker 4: relationship for years, and I think we got married very

1250
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 4: quickly to just try to like save the relationship, and

1251
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,560
Speaker 4: it very quickly was apparent to me that that was

1252
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 4: the absolute wrong thing to do. And oh, I've always

1253
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:02,000
Speaker 4: wanted to tell you that, like, like going through bad

1254
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 4: times in that relationship, I would spend a lot of

1255
01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 4: like my spare time listening to you. So sometimes man,

1256
01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 4: like when it's getting really tough, would I would be like,

1257
01:01:12,840 --> 01:01:14,360
Speaker 4: what would therapy Gecko tell me to do?

1258
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: What the fuck would I tell you to do?

1259
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 4: You would tell me to do what makes me happy? Man?

1260
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:24,680
Speaker 1: Oh man, No, I would probably tell you that.

1261
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:25,760
Speaker 2: No.

1262
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 1: I'd probably tell you to invest in a combination of

1263
01:01:28,920 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: both foreign and domestic index funds, in a combination of

1264
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:38,440
Speaker 1: taxable and non taxable accounts that you can defer towards retirement.

1265
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 4: We're gonna we're gonna start my wroth ira, now, yeah.

1266
01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, anytime. Just for the record, and if

1267
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:47,840
Speaker 1: anyone listening to this, it's thinking like, what would therapy

1268
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: Gecko tell me to do? I he would tell you

1269
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: to start a wroth ira.

1270
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 4: I've looked into it. It's it's there's a lot of

1271
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:01,360
Speaker 4: it looks like a lot of responsibility.

1272
01:02:03,240 --> 01:02:05,600
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm I'm happy for you though. That sounds awesome.

1273
01:02:05,640 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 1: It's I'm really I'm really like genuinely, it's very cool.

1274
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,280
Speaker 1: I think there's so much like doomerism surrounding like what

1275
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,280
Speaker 1: getting older and going through life and so much classification

1276
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 1: of this period of time it's supposed to be the

1277
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,360
Speaker 1: best period of life and this and that and the

1278
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:23,920
Speaker 1: other thing, and you know, being some age or some

1279
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 1: position in life and being like, oh it's over, I'm fucked.

1280
01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: And then you know, so I like a nice story

1281
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: of like being able to find a beautiful season of

1282
01:02:34,840 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 1: life after hold on, I have to sneeze. Fuck. I

1283
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: like I like being able to the story of finding

1284
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: a nice season of life later on in it. I

1285
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:52,520
Speaker 1: think it's cool. So I'm excited for you. How many

1286
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:57,240
Speaker 1: who's the craziest, Who's the wackiest member of the bunch

1287
01:02:57,840 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 1: of the new group of friends? Who's the real wild card?

1288
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 4: They're all kind of They're also crazy in their own way.

1289
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 4: They're all video game developers. I'm just friends with a

1290
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 4: bunch of like the queer la nerds. I love them

1291
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 4: all so much. I've got one friend that just like

1292
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 4: travels around the world and throws orgies with other people

1293
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,080
Speaker 4: that want to meet them, you know where, in a

1294
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,960
Speaker 4: castle in the middle of Scotland or whatever and throw

1295
01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 4: a big sex party. What it's crazy out here?

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Speaker 1: I just heard a sex party castle in the woods.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, one of my friends. I don't. They were at

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Speaker 4: a castle for I think a LARP event, and I

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Speaker 4: think it turned some part of the castle turned into

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Speaker 4: a sex room. And I don't know all the details.

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Speaker 1: You know, you know, I is there any reason to

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Speaker 1: build a castle if you don't have a designated sex room?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: If not, what is even the point?

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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly should be in the ballroom? Should be in

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Speaker 1: the ballroom?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Or the balls room?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: The ballroom is where you get all fancy and then

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Speaker 1: you you, you know, you people court each other. Did

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Speaker 1: the be did in Beauty and the Beast? Did they

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Speaker 1: do they have sex in that movie?

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Speaker 4: I don't think it explicitly showed it, but yeah, I

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Speaker 4: think they definitely fucked.

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Speaker 1: When I that's when I think of when you said

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Speaker 1: the word ballroom, I was thinking about that ballroom scene.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmmm. Yeah, they didn't show that part that guy

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Speaker 4: or earlier was talking about. I covered the eyes of

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Speaker 4: the young teapot though. That's that's why, and that's where

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Speaker 4: it was leading to say that again. Missus Potts like

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Speaker 4: rushes away the little tea cup chip because he's a kid.

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Speaker 4: She rushes him away. She's like, you don't need to

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Speaker 4: see what's going on here.

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Speaker 1: Mm, which is interesting because even the tea cup presents

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Speaker 1: as a child, he's that the cup itself has probably

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Speaker 1: been around for like hundreds of years.

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Speaker 4: You're right. I was talking about that it would take

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Speaker 4: on the memories or the experiences that that teacup.

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Speaker 1: Lived through, and it's time, oh, when it becomes sentient. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad. You know, you know why the Disney

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Speaker 1: movies work. Have you ever had you ever had a

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Speaker 1: fucking idea? You ever? I know I have friends like

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Speaker 1: this and I hate them. You like, uh, you ever

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: have like an idea for something and then someone immediately

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Speaker 1: starts telling you why it doesn't make sense?

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: I think like if they were in the writer's room

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Speaker 1: or whatever of Beauty and the Beast and they veered

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Speaker 1: away from the story and what not to like focus

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01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: in on why does it like it doesn't make sense

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Speaker 1: that this cup is sentient or whatever, I think that

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Speaker 1: they'd make a bad movie. I think a lot of

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01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 1: making great things is about asking as few questions as possible,

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01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:39,400
Speaker 1: just doing the thing. That's why I'm inspired by both

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Speaker 1: Beauty and the Beast in that regard.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I see you're saying, that makes sense.

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Speaker 1: That guy earlier was talking about this is I just

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Speaker 1: wanted to finish the thought. But it's not funny. Or interesting.

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Speaker 1: But that guy earlier was talking about like porn censorship,

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Speaker 1: and I wonder if, like the if it's you can't

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01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 1: he said that you can't make porn parodies anymore. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you heard that guy earlier.

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Speaker 4: I did hear that guy.

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Speaker 1: He said that you can't make.

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Speaker 4: Porn lack of porn parodies.

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Speaker 1: And it's funny because now I think about it, there

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Speaker 1: has been a distinct lack of porn parodies.

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Speaker 4: Right where's the I'm not going to start listening what

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Speaker 4: I want a porn parody of? But yeah, where are they?

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Speaker 4: If you could turn any anything into a porn parody

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Speaker 4: that you don't think has been done yet, what would

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Speaker 4: you choose.

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Speaker 1: I want a porn parody of Stephen King's it called

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Speaker 1: the stick called stick It in my ass?

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Speaker 4: Damn? What the Oh?

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Speaker 3: Oh god?

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Speaker 1: What about you?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Have you seen the new Knives Out movie? Wake

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Speaker 4: Up Dead Man?

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Speaker 1: Oh Knives in my Ass?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Exactly?

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Speaker 2: I like that?

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Speaker 1: Uh, Sam, is there anything else you want to say

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Speaker 1: to the people of the computer before we go?

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Speaker 4: Have a good day, guys. Thanks for listening. I'm glad

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Speaker 4: I finally got to talk to you. Gek Oh Gek

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Speaker 4: hit me. I saw you live when you were in Tampa,

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Speaker 4: I think a year ago.

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Speaker 2: Swag, You're great.

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Speaker 4: As I was walking to my seat, I actually like

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Speaker 4: they walked me past the backstage area and you were

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Speaker 4: back there looking at paper or something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it went, oh hi.

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Speaker 4: GEK, you remember that.

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Speaker 1: I actually do remember this. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I've always wondered if you heard me, because the guy

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Speaker 4: like closed the curtains right behind you right as I

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Speaker 4: said it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I remember that. Shout out the Tampa improv. I'll

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Speaker 1: try to come back. I'm going on tour again in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I'll try to do some Florida shows.

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Speaker 1: We'll see what I want.

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Speaker 4: I'm in La now, so I don't well definitely.

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Speaker 1: Well great then I'll definitely be in La.

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Speaker 4: So all right, Greg, I'll see you there.

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Speaker 3: Swag.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Sam, Thanks ma'am.

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Speaker 2: Bye.

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Speaker 1: That was nice. That was a nice phone call to

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Speaker 1: end on. This has been the Therapy Gecko podcast. My

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Speaker 1: name is Lyle. That's those are the two main things

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01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 1: that I said just now. Thanks for listening, Thanks for

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01:09:42,800 --> 01:09:47,120
Speaker 1: listening to the show. I'm gonna keep I'm gonna keep

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Speaker 1: talking about this. I mentioned I'm going on tour in

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I'd love for you guys to come,

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01:09:51,800 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: and I'd love for you guys to know when I'll

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01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,320
Speaker 1: be in your town. So in order for me to

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Speaker 1: do that, it would be of great help to me.

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01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,360
Speaker 1: If you are a listener of this podcast, if you

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01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:07,479
Speaker 1: could go to Therapy Gecko Tour dot com and give

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01:10:07,560 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: me either your phone number email. I am not gonna

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01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 1: send you a fucking text every day or even every week,

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01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 1: or even every month, or maybe even every year. But

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01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,639
Speaker 1: if you do that, I will just be I'll text

1417
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:26,760
Speaker 1: you when I near your city and doing a Gecko show.

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01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,479
Speaker 1: At these Gecko shows, I tell I do like some

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01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 1: comedy storytelling about my life. I do some live therapy

1420
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: Gecko sessions. This is this will be my fourth tour.

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01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:43,439
Speaker 1: I'm really excited about it. So go to Therapy Geckotour

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01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:46,479
Speaker 1: dot com and put your phone number and whatever the

1423
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:50,840
Speaker 1: fuck in there. I'd appreciate it. Thanks for listening to

1424
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 1: this podcast, Thanks for indulging my existence on this earth

1425
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:05,200
Speaker 1: and validating it by putting me in your ears. Go

1426
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 1: to Twitch dot tv, slash lyle forever and follow me

1427
01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:12,280
Speaker 1: on there to get a notification for when I'm streaming

1428
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:15,400
Speaker 1: live and that's how you can call into the show.

1429
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:19,360
Speaker 1: I stream at random times when I feel like it. Uh,

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01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:28,840
Speaker 1: try your best, don't kill yourself, hell satan, whatever, Okay,

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01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 1: thank you very much, Bye bye week.

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Speaker 2: It goes on the line taking your phone calls every.

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Speaker 1: Night every week and goes to ride.

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Speaker 2: You're just teaching you loud every life an expert