1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, ready or not, twenty twenty four is here, 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 1: and we here at breaking points, are already thinking of 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:08,560 Speaker 1: ways we can up our game for this critical election. 4 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:11,719 Speaker 2: We rely on our premium subs to expand coverage, upgrade 5 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 2: the studio ad staff, give you, guys, the best independent. 6 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 3: Coverage that is possible. 7 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 2: If you like what we're all about, it just means 8 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:20,799 Speaker 2: the absolute world to have your support. But enough with that, 9 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:27,760 Speaker 2: let's get to the show, all right, Why don't we 10 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: get to Israel? 11 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: All right? So lot of developments here, So just to 12 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: back up for a bit and give you some context. 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: You will recall Palestinians in Gaza were forced out of 14 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 1: northern Gaza into Conunis. They were then forced out of 15 00:00:43,479 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 1: Conunis into Rafa. You know, have somewhere around one point 16 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: three million Palestinians clustered on the border with Egypt in 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: Rafa in what are horrifically indescribable humanitarian circumstances. Kids are 18 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: literally starving to death at this point, no sanitation, no 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: clean drinking water. They were subject to a terrible bombardment 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,039 Speaker 1: while we were all watching the Super Bowl. Over one 21 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 1: hundred Palestinians reported dead in that you know, in that 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 1: effort that led to Israel being able to secure the 23 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 1: release of two hostages, but at the cost of more 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,080 Speaker 1: than one hundred Palestinian lives. So horrific situation in Rafa. 25 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: US President Joe Biden had originally said he did not 26 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: want an operation from Israel to go forward in Rafa 27 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 1: at all. He then amended those comments and said, well, 28 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 1: we don't want it to go forward without a plan 29 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: for Palestinian civilians, to which Bbe said, Okay, no problem, 30 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: here's your plan. Put this up on the screen. They 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: want us, the United States of America, to pay for 32 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: tent cities for Rafa evacuees. Israel's proposing the creation of 33 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: sprawling tent cities in Gaza as part of an evacuation 34 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: plan to be funded by the US and its Arab 35 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: golf partners ahead of an impending invasion of a city 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: in the Strip south, which Israel says is the last 37 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: bashion of Hamas. Israel evacuation proposal includes establishing fifteen campsites 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: of around twenty five thousand tens each across the southwestern 39 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: part of the Gossa Strip. Egyptian officials said Egypt would 40 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:12,160 Speaker 1: be in charge of setting up the camps and field hospitals. 41 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: The officials said plan indicates that Israel's planning an invasion 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,239 Speaker 1: of Raffa, despite US and Egyptian concerns. Cairo has said, 43 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: and we covered this yesterday, that it would suspend a 44 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine peace treaty with Israel if Palestinians crossed 45 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,720 Speaker 1: the border from Rafa to flee and Israeli offensive. The 46 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal has reported this was entirely predictable. Joe Biden, 47 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: by saying you can go forward in Rafa, but you've 48 00:02:38,280 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: got to have some kind of a plan for the 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: Palestinians gave bb Netnyahu a clear green light that all 50 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: he needed to do was come up with some bullshit 51 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:50,720 Speaker 1: fig leaf of a plan which is going to first 52 00:02:50,720 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: of all, it's probably impossible. Second of all, puts all 53 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: of the onus, not on them, but on us and 54 00:02:56,080 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: other Arab golf countries. Third of all is going to 55 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:03,280 Speaker 1: only further am missa rate this already devastated population. But 56 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: now he can say, look, I gave you your plan. 57 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,080 Speaker 1: Now we're going to go ahead with our indiscriminate over 58 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: the top. In Joe Biden's words, bombing campaign that is 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,559 Speaker 1: going to take the lives of many, many more Palestinian 60 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: civilians and once again displace them when they have nowhere 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: else to go. So it is outrageous on absolutely every level. 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just very common. On the Israeli part. 63 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 2: They're like, when we have a problem, we'll just ask 64 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: America to pay for it. Interesting, isn't it to bring 65 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: it back to the State Department? 66 00:03:32,639 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't they since we seem to do whatever they want. 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 3: No, I would do it too if I were them. 68 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 2: But you know, where us and we're the ones who 69 00:03:38,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 2: decide whether we get to pay for something or not, 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: or allegedly there was a way the government was supposed 71 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 2: to work. Our State Department was pressed on this a 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: little bit yesterday by a journalist in terms of the 73 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: policy and how they're conducting the military campaign. 74 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 3: Here's what they had to say. 75 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 4: We have pursued the policy that we think gives us 76 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 4: the maximum ability to be successful in influencing how Israel 77 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 4: conducts its military campaign. 78 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: And how are you happy with the results, And. 79 00:04:07,520 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 4: In many cases, no, absolutely we are not. We are 80 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 4: happy with the fact that we have been able to 81 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 4: get humanitarian assistants into Israel that is the direct result 82 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 4: of US I'm sorry, into Gaza. That is the direct 83 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 4: result of US intervention. But at the same time, there 84 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 4: has not been enough humanitarian assistant said has gotten in. 85 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:28,440 Speaker 4: What levers have you used? 86 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 2: So we have used. 87 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,440 Speaker 4: Diplomatical effort levers the secretary that means the secretary and 88 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 4: the President and you and Kirby and whoever else standing 89 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 4: up and saying wagging your finger and saying that that's 90 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 4: not really leveraged. We have engaged with them on a 91 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 4: at a multitude of levels at this administration. And as 92 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 4: I kind of you look at the list that we 93 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 4: just went through with Humera, we have seen them take 94 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,360 Speaker 4: steps at our urging that have had really a real 95 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:02,600 Speaker 4: tangible impact. But they have not been enough. 96 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: But what levers have you? 97 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 2: Actually? 98 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 4: I think that when the United States of America stands 99 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: up and says something publicly, it matters. But but but 100 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 4: you have that's a leve and we and you haven't 101 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 4: said no and we but any consequences. 102 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 3: To my point, we have seen money or military assistance 103 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:28,280 Speaker 3: right there, I just went through, what have you gone? 104 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 4: I think the words of the President of the United 105 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 4: States the words of the Secretary of State matter as 106 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,240 Speaker 4: we've seen hold on over the top, and we have 107 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 4: seen verage, and we have seen the government of Israel 108 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 4: respond to it, not always in the way that we want, 109 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 4: not always to the degree that we want or to 110 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 4: the level that we want. 111 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 2: So that is Matt Lee, the great Matt Lee from 112 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 2: the US State Department Press Corps. He's been there for years. 113 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 2: They're all afraid of him. He treats everybody. I saw 114 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: him treat the Trump people that way. He humiliates the 115 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,279 Speaker 2: Biden people as well. But he does a great job 116 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:00,799 Speaker 2: of getting down to the uh, breaking through the BS. 117 00:06:00,960 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 5: Right. 118 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, he'll be like a like, oh, multitude, what does 119 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: that mean? So you said over the top? What exactly 120 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 2: is that supposed to be? And it's great because, look, 121 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 2: I don't know why, but for some reason, the State 122 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: Department Press as a press corps, oppressed people have not 123 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 2: yet rigged the briefing in the same way that and 124 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:17,560 Speaker 2: they actually seem to sit there and take questions. 125 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 3: I shouldn't call it out because I wanted to keep happening. 126 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's a great thing for us because we 127 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,880 Speaker 2: get people like Ryan and going there or Matt Lee 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 2: and they don't just get a single question. 129 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:26,840 Speaker 3: They sit there. They haven't extended back and forth. 130 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you do, you crumble like this, look 131 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: at the way that that guy came apart. 132 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Especially right now. I mean, what they're saying is complete 133 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: gas lighting bullshit. It's totally apparent. They have to admit 134 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: things like you know, in that beginning clip, he says, 135 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,480 Speaker 1: Matt Miller of the State Department Google says, we pursued 136 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: the policy we think gives us the maximum ability to 137 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 1: be successful and influencing how Israel conducted its military campaign. 138 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 1: And the reporter says, and are you happy with the 139 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: results of that? And he says, in many cases no, 140 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: It's just like Joe Biden when they were asking, you know, 141 00:07:00,240 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: how's the Hoofy bombing going, and he's like, oh, well, 142 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 1: it hasn't accomplished the objectives, but it's going to continue. 143 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 1: It's the same thing here. They know it's not working. 144 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: And then Matt Lee presses the point of Okay, well, 145 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: if that's not working, what leverage are you using besides 146 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: you and Kirby and Biden and Blincoln whatever, wagging your finger, Oh, Israel, 147 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: we don't like exactly what you're doing, which clearly hasn't worked, 148 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: and Matt Miller is reduced to just like bumbling word 149 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: salad of oh, we've expressed our concern on a multitude 150 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: of levels, and then hackneyed cliches like the words of 151 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: the United States of America matter. Clearly they don't. Clearly 152 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: at this point they do not. So yet another very 153 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: rough State Department briefing for Matt Miller. You know, another 154 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: Brian was there as well, pressing him on the six 155 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: year old who was murdered by Israeli forces alongside her rescuers. 156 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: I'm going to play some of that in my monologue, 157 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: but it just shows you the utter insanity of what 158 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 1: we have washed unfold. And there was another you can't 159 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: even make it up. There was yet another scoop. Biden says, 160 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: Net and Nah, who's a jerk behind closed doors? Biden 161 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 1: upset with net and Yah, et cetera, et cetera. There 162 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: was yet another one of these, And it's like, how 163 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: can you guys continue to print this bullshit and pretend 164 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,720 Speaker 1: like it matters at all? And for the Biden people 165 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: who think that these leaks are somehow benefiting them, it doesn't. 166 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:31,800 Speaker 1: It just makes you look weak and pathetic, and Bibe 167 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: is happy to stomp all over whatever little concerns you 168 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 1: leak to the press about what he's doing, and happy 169 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:42,240 Speaker 1: to throw in your face some preposterous, cruel, inhumane, and 170 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: outrageous plan for us to set up tent cities for 171 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: Palestinians who are going to be forced out of Ratha 172 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: by yet another round of insane and outrageous bombing. So 173 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 1: that's where we are now. I did want to cover 174 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: this because I think it's important to, you know, put 175 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: some caveats in here about just how imminent this potential 176 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: RAFA offensive is. We already had this very large bombing 177 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: campaign that the Israeli's described as a diversion for their 178 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: hostage rescue. So basically they had to murder dozens, potentially 179 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: more than one hundred Palestinians in order to rescue their 180 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: two hostages. But they say that's not the real offensive here. 181 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 1: They're planning something much more vast. I wanted to put 182 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 1: this in just so people know again what the caveats 183 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: here are. Haretz is reporting they don't think that this 184 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: RAFA offensive is actually coming anytime soon. They think that 185 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: this is just basically bluster from bb that is politically 186 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: advantageous for him in the context of holding onto his 187 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,320 Speaker 1: grip on power. Put this up on the screen from 188 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 1: Haretz so that you can see their analysis that they 189 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 1: say why Notta was constantly talking up a Rafa IDF 190 00:09:47,920 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: operation is real. Successful raid to rescue two hostages, by 191 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: the way, at the cost of massive civilian life from 192 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: Rafa on Monday morning was not the operation that Netna 193 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 1: who had in mind. But there are no signs a 194 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: big IDF operation is imminent no matter what the Prime 195 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: Minister says. They point to the fact that they say 196 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 1: the IDF's deployment in the Gaza strip is the smallest 197 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 1: it's been in over three months, with just five brigade 198 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: combat teams or mainly fighting in Conunis. There are no 199 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: signs of other brigades mustering near Rava on Gaza southern border. 200 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 1: Nearly all the dozens of reserve battalions that took part 201 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: in the previous stages of fighting have been demobilized and 202 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 1: are now back home. One of the regular armoured divisions 203 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,520 Speaker 1: has been sent to the northern border. The IDF is 204 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: unlikely to launch a major Rava operation, while an entire 205 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: Division four brigade combat teams is still fighting deep in Conunis. 206 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 1: So I just wanted to put that out there. You 207 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: can make of it what you will. But at least 208 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 1: some Israeli analysts, who, by the way, Harat's, you know, 209 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:44,719 Speaker 1: very skeptical of met Nyahoo, et cetera, et cetera. They 210 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: don't expect that the big operation in Rapa quote unquote 211 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: is really actually imminent and set to come. That it 212 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: is more about bluster for Bbe, who wants to preserve 213 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: his grip on power and sort of project to people 214 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,959 Speaker 1: that he's the guy who will take them to total victory. 215 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: That's sort of the like catchphrase that he has adopted 216 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: for his political purposes. 217 00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was, actually I'd be curious to hear more 218 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 2: of what you think, because it does seem that given 219 00:11:13,320 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 2: that they had to pull out more reservists from they 220 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 2: already decommissioned a lot of these reserves. They have to 221 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:21,559 Speaker 2: send them back to work, they don't have a decent 222 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 2: enough fighting force even the ones that they do. Professional 223 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: soldiers could cover themselves in glory. I think we could 224 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: say that given the civilian number in the population, it 225 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 2: would take overwhelming force. The other thing is when you 226 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 2: pair it with the video that we played of Biden 227 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: and King Abdullah talking about a hostage deal, it could 228 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:44,320 Speaker 2: be do you think that this is pressure to try 229 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 2: and achieve some sort of short term hostage deal like, 230 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 2: because I'm very just confused as to what their actual 231 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 2: aim here or was this all honestly just covered for 232 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 2: that two hostage rescue operation. 233 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 3: That's another possibility that we can't discount either. 234 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: I think that there will be a major operation in Rafa. 235 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:05,079 Speaker 1: I mean, it's insane that we can't call what they 236 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: already did a major operation given the civilian death toll, 237 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,960 Speaker 1: but just in their mind, like a lengthier, more extended bombing, 238 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 1: ground invasion, et cetera. If I were to guess, I 239 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 1: think that is definitely coming. As we've discussed at length, 240 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: Bbe has every political incentive, along with the rest of 241 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: his war cabinet, to you know, continue this war indefinitely. 242 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 1: Not only him, but some of the quote unquote moderate 243 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: members of his cabinet have been very clear that you 244 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: that you know it, it's wherever they want to go 245 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: in Now suddenly that's the center of Hamas and they're 246 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 1: saying this is where the last brigades are we can't 247 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,560 Speaker 1: finish the job without going into Rafa, so we have 248 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 1: to do it. We have to do it, we have 249 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: to do it. So I think, because of the unequivocal 250 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 1: nature of that rhetoric they are going in, it's a 251 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: question of when, and you know, to that I have 252 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: no idea. This analysis makes sense to me that they 253 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: aren't really set up to do it right now. That 254 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,600 Speaker 1: just gives them time to sort of drag things out 255 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: even longer, maybe engage in some more of these attempted 256 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:05,080 Speaker 1: hostage rescue missions to keep feeding Israeli public at least something, 257 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, to keep the war effort going and keep 258 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: their hold on their positions right now, because still the 259 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: Israeli public, I mean, their issues with Naaniaho aren't my 260 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: issues with Naniaho, but they despise him and basically want 261 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: him gone. So I think it's only a matter of time. 262 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: But you know, as to the timing, I can't really 263 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 1: say at this point, you did mention, let's go ahead 264 00:13:24,200 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 1: and play that. Biden met with King of Dullah. There 265 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:32,360 Speaker 1: were previous hostage talks that seemed to fall apart. Hamas 266 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: wanted the complete end to the war, in three phases 267 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: that Israelis want to continue the war, the US wants 268 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: to continue the war effectively, so that was kind of 269 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: a non starter. Now they're floating some modified version of 270 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:47,600 Speaker 1: the deal that would lead to six weeks cessation in fighting. 271 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: Let's take a listen to what they had to say. 272 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 5: The United States is working on a hostage deal between 273 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 5: Israel and Hamas which would bring mediate and sustained period 274 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 5: of calmon to Gaza for at least six weeks, which 275 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 5: we could then take the time to build something more enduring. 276 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 5: Over the past month, I've had calls with Prime Minister 277 00:14:09,640 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 5: bet Yahoo as well as the leaders of Egyptian Cutter 278 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: to push this forward. The key element of the deals 279 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 5: are on the table. There are gaps that remain, but 280 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,920 Speaker 5: I've encouraged Israeli leaders to keep working to achieve the deal. 281 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 5: The United States will do everything possible to make it happen. 282 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: I also don't know what to make of this, whether 283 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: this is real, whether it really has a shot. BB 284 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: under a lot of pressure from the psychic most psychotic 285 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: elements of his governing coalition not to do any sort 286 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: of a deal at this point, especially not one that 287 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: involves the release of any significant number of the Palestinian 288 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: prisoners that they are holding. So whether this deal has 289 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 1: any better shot at success in the last one, I 290 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: genuinely just have no idea at this point. I guess 291 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: I'm kind of skeptical given the way that the last 292 00:14:56,280 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: negotiations fell apart. 293 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: There you go. 294 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: One last piece here I wanted to show you because 295 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: this is just outrageous and as yet another cautionary tale 296 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: about believing anything that comes out from the idea. Put 297 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 1: this up on the screen. This is just insane that 298 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: they did this. So you'll recall Israel actually has to 299 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 1: respond to the ICJ on February twenty third, So this 300 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: is really coming up about the ways that they have 301 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: changed their offensive to comply with the order from the 302 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: ICJ and the establishment that they are plausibly committing genocide. 303 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: Part of that is an effort to oh, no, we 304 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 1: really are shipping in humanitarian aid. And so the official 305 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: state of Israel account and I'm reading now from this 306 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: what is with the BBC before, who has been doing 307 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: a great job tracking lies and misinformation from both Israelis 308 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: and from Hamas and people who are supporting the Palestinians 309 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,440 Speaker 1: on the side, The official State of Israel account has 310 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: posted this video saying it is facilitating aid into Gaza. 311 00:15:53,040 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: A clip at the end of the video claiming to 312 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: show tents and shelter equipment for Gozzen's was actually filmed 313 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: in March twenty twenty two showing tents in Moldova for 314 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: Ukrainian refugees. Okay, this is the level of propaganda that 315 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: we're dealing with here that you can easily identify a 316 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: literal stock photo from Ukrainian refugees in twenty twenty two, 317 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: and the State of Israel account is happy to tweet 318 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: this sount as evidence of their benevolence. It really is 319 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: quite incredible, And yet it's the sort of thing that, 320 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: just given the amount of propaganda we've been subjected to, 321 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: could easily get lost as well. 322 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 2: God, yeah, of course that's why. I mean, look again, 323 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: this is a confirmed thing. This actually did happen. It's 324 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: not such some random account you know, that we pulled. 325 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 2: We've used his disinformation. He's actually done a good job 326 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: of demunking many things on either side, so it's not 327 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 2: like a selective person that we're pulling either. No, just 328 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 2: you know, does it's just crazy especially if we loop 329 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 2: it back to the fact that they're trying to create 330 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: this like fake image about an option, but then for 331 00:16:56,560 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 2: a humanitarian option. 332 00:16:57,880 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 3: But all of it just comes back to the fact 333 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 3: that they want to pay for it. 334 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: They want they want to be able to inflict the damage, 335 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 2: not deal with any of the consequences. And I mean, 336 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: this is a conversation we've had here a million times, 337 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: but this is not how it works. Like you can't 338 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 2: just go in break it, you know, think that you 339 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 2: can just absolve yourself completely. Even if we did pay 340 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 2: for it and all that, it's not like the security 341 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 2: ramifications and all the fallout from the future will not 342 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:23,920 Speaker 2: come back to impact Israel. 343 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: This is a good transition to something that just transpired 344 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: here in the Senate. You had two senators Democratic senators 345 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: who traveled to the region to evaluate the aid distribution, 346 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 1: and they were basically shocked and horrified. And they also 347 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 1: were debunking the Israeli propaganda, the Israeli lies about how, oh, 348 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:47,520 Speaker 1: we're doing everything we can to get a humanitarian aid 349 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: and they said, no, you're not whatsoever. You're throwing up 350 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 1: all these roadblocks to make it impossible to get sufficient 351 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 1: aid into Gaza, people are literally starving to death, and 352 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: so what we're really for a sort of run on 353 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: them mill, standard issue liberal Democratic senator. Quite extraordinary comments 354 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: made last night. He said, number one, he has confirmation 355 00:18:09,560 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: that kids are now starving to death in Gaza, per 356 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,919 Speaker 1: Cindy McCain, who's the head of the World Food Program, 357 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 1: which is interesting of itself, but Personny McCain, kids are 358 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 1: now starving to death. And he says clearly and unequivocally, 359 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:25,880 Speaker 1: this is a war crime, and the people who are 360 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: doing this are war criminals. Let's take a listen to that, and. 361 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,199 Speaker 6: In President, I want that to sink in. Kids in 362 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 6: Gaza are now dying from the deliberate withholding of food. 363 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 6: In addition to the horror of that news, one other 364 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 6: thing is true. That is a war crime. It is 365 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 6: a textbook war crime, and that makes those who orchestrate 366 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 6: it war criminals. So now the question is what will 367 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 6: the United States do? 368 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,360 Speaker 3: What will we do? 369 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 6: What will President Biden do? President Biden must take action 370 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 6: in response. 371 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 3: To what is happening. 372 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,480 Speaker 1: His comments very forceful there, and this came in the 373 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 1: context of debate over that Ukraine Israel bill which just 374 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: passed the Senate with a supermajority. But in spite of 375 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: the fact that he says these are war crimes and 376 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 1: the people who are doing this are war criminals, he 377 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 1: still voted yes on the. 378 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,960 Speaker 3: Bill, probably because of Ukraine. 379 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 1: That's what he said. Elizabeth Warren said the same thing. 380 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: But it's like, how can you knowingly, Like, you know 381 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: these are war CRuMs. You said it on the Senate 382 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: floor that they are war crimes. You're like, but I'm 383 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: going to go out and ship billions more to the 384 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: people I am calling war criminals. Like he goes on, oh, 385 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 1: you know, what should we do as the United States 386 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: of America with President Bidena, hold them accountable, et cetera. 387 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: Like you are a United States senator, you have you 388 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: are incredibly powerful and influential actually within the caucus in 389 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: particular on foreign policy. For you to say these are 390 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: war crimes, yes, that's extraordinary. But then the next thing 391 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 1: you do is to vote through the funding. I just 392 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: don't even know what to say about. 393 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I know, which is that Ukraine is a 394 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:22,920 Speaker 2: religion and it's like a mind disease for a lot 395 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,040 Speaker 2: of people, and it's literally, I mean you, Israel is 396 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: the same way right. For a lot of Republicans, They're like, 397 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 2: I will support Israel no matter what period end of 398 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: the story. What did that guy, the guy with the 399 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: congressman who wore the idf ran we. 400 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 3: Have killed enough kids? 401 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: He's like, we haven't killed It's like what He's like, God, 402 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 2: he's not even Jewish. That's that's the craziest part about 403 00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: all of this. This is the same level he's like, well, 404 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 2: we can have bad things going, but Ukraine it's just 405 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 2: such an important cause, et cetera, et cetera. It's just 406 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 2: one of those you have to move past. The reason 407 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: why and you and I were talking about this before 408 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 2: the show. Why I still do think that is very 409 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 2: important is that's Chris van Holland. This guy lives in Bethesda, 410 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: which is one of the richest namesghborhoods in the world. 411 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,359 Speaker 3: It's right out here Washington, d C. 412 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: It's full of people from the blob, represents the state 413 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: of Maryland. If he is willing to talk that way openly, 414 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: I do think it is still impactful and is interesting 415 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 2: in terms of where the winds are blowing within the 416 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 2: Democratic Coalition. Yeah, because he's not Bernie Sanders. This is 417 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 2: not a far left person by any you know, means 418 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:24,280 Speaker 2: this is a former Nancy Pelosi top deputy, a very 419 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 2: classic DSCC type person. So that's why I actually still 420 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 2: found it, you know, has put his voting aside. The rhetoric, 421 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 2: you know, usually precedes that or at least can proceed 422 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 2: or show us something that was. 423 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 3: Noteworthy to me. 424 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: It was, yeah, it absolutely was. The other thing that 425 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:43,800 Speaker 1: is noteworthy is so van Holland and center of Merkley 426 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: took this trip together to evaluate the aid distribution that 427 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 1: I was referring to earlier, and so now you have 428 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: Van Holland making these comms to other reason why it's 429 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:57,199 Speaker 1: noteworthy is receiving confirmation that yes, kids in Gaza at 430 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:00,959 Speaker 1: this point are literally dying from starvation, not just bombs 431 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 1: as per Sidney McCain had of the World Food Program. 432 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: So that in and of itself is newsworthy. And then 433 00:22:08,119 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 1: the other thing to point out about the fact that 434 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, these two senators, standard issue Democratic senators travel 435 00:22:14,040 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: to the region is Merkley ends up being alongside you know, 436 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: Bernie Sanders, basically Democrat at this point the only Democratic 437 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 1: votes against this package. So clearly traveling to the region 438 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: and seeing this up, you know, up close and personal. 439 00:22:30,280 --> 00:22:32,960 Speaker 1: Also had a real impact on them, which is, you know, 440 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 1: something you've seen more broadly with people who have actually traveled, 441 00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: for example, to the occupied West Bank and seen what 442 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,959 Speaker 1: life is like there. They come back very, very changed 443 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: by that experience, and so I thought that was really 444 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: notable as well. At the same time, this we didn't 445 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 1: want to let this pass. So they're obviously in terms 446 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: of political implications, Joe Biden is quickly reckoning, or at 447 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: least his team, which may still have somewhat of brain left, 448 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: is weekly reckoning with the fact that they've got a 449 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: massive problem in Michigan with Arab American voters in particular, 450 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: and they've got a huge problem they're based in general, 451 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: I mean young voters, voters of color dramatically opposed to 452 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:16,080 Speaker 1: what Biden's policy has been in Israel. So in an 453 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: attempt to clean up the electoral mess, they dispatched a 454 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: retinue of AIDS to Michigan to meet with some Arab 455 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: American and Muslim leaders last week. Let's put this up 456 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:32,960 Speaker 1: on the screen. The headline here from CBS is Biden 457 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,400 Speaker 1: AID acknowledges missteps on Gaza and regrets failure to express 458 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: concern over loss of Palestinian life. Me read you a 459 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:45,119 Speaker 1: little bit of this, he said this, Aid said quote, 460 00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: we have left a very damaging impression based on what 461 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: has been a wholly inadequate public accounting for how much 462 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: the President, the administration, the country values the lives of Palestinians. 463 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: This was per Deputy National Security Advisor John Feiner. And 464 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 1: the reason we know these details as apparently they leaked 465 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: the audio. We are very well aware that we have 466 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 1: misstepped in the course of responding to the crisis. He 467 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: also acknowledged many in the Arab American community believe President 468 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: Biden doesn't emphasis empathize with Palestinians in Gaza and occupied 469 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:17,880 Speaker 1: West Bank. In the closed door meeting, Finer expressed regrets 470 00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: over several specific instances of the administration's response, including a 471 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: failure by the US to publicly condemn remarks made by 472 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: Israeli Defense MINISTRYO of galant the ones where he called 473 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: Palestinians animals in human form. We did not sufficiently indicate 474 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 1: that we totally rejected and disagreed with those sort of sentiments. 475 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: Out of a desire to sort of focus on solving 476 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: the problem and not engaging a rhetorical back and forth 477 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: with people who, in many cases, I think we all 478 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: find somewhat abhorrent. He also expressed regret over a statement 479 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: made by the President on the one hundredth day of 480 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: the conflict. The statement spoke to the plight of Israeli 481 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: victims of the initial Hamas attack, including those taken hostage, 482 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: but did not speak to Palestinian civilians killed by the 483 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: Israeli response quote, there is no excuse for that. It 484 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: should not have happened. I believe it will not happen again, 485 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 1: but we know that there was a lot of damage done. 486 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: He referred to that damage as a very very big hole, 487 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: I mean, note worthy to me. And the saga is 488 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 1: the fact that there's no regrets over the actual policy. 489 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,919 Speaker 1: They seem to think this is all like a messaging issue, 490 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: like if they had just acknowledged Palestinians in the one 491 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: hundred day message, then people would be cool with the policy, 492 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: or if they'd, like, you know, put out another leak 493 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: to the press about how they didn't like Yoov Gallant's 494 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,440 Speaker 1: comments about humans and animal form, maybe everything would be fine. 495 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: There's clearly no acknowledgment that the actual policy itself is 496 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 1: the issue that people have with the administration, not necessarily 497 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 1: the packaging of the policy, but the actual substance. 498 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, the polling really bears that out too. 499 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 2: We can put this up there on the screen, which 500 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,720 Speaker 2: shows that the half of you as adults now say 501 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 2: that the military response has gone too far. You can 502 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 2: actually compare it from the previous numbers and see a 503 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 2: pretty substantial increase in the number of US adults rising 504 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 2: from November of twenty twenty three, where there's forty percent 505 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: that they did to now fifty percent. So you have 506 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 2: fifty percent of US adults overall who are saying that 507 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 2: the Israel response has gone too far, thirty one percent 508 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 2: says not just about right, fifteen percent then saying k 509 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 2: not gone far enough. 510 00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 3: If you look at the Democratic number, it's actually much higher. 511 00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: Previously it was fifty eight percent said too far, now 512 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,240 Speaker 2: sixty three percent, twenty four percent who are agreeing, nine 513 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: percent who are saying not far enough, amongst independence the 514 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 2: other number that matters obviously for the election, you actually 515 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,320 Speaker 2: see the number rise to fifty two percent and then 516 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 2: twenty eight percent at the bit about right and twelve 517 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 2: percent not far enough. Number so the flip from the 518 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: independent voters on their view at a minority basically a 519 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 2: balance between too far and about right from a couple 520 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 2: of months ago to now. 521 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 3: That's the big story to me. 522 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,040 Speaker 2: Amongst the Independents and then obviously amongst the Democrats as well. 523 00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: So you got two thirds of Democrats and about half 524 00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 2: of Independence, just demonstrating where if the trend line is 525 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: going to continue his way as we go all the 526 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: way into November. 527 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 3: I mean, it's a lot like the Ukraine stories. 528 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: You know, people will get caught up in something and 529 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: then reality starts to set in, and then after a while, 530 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,199 Speaker 2: especially a year and a half, two years or so, 531 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: into something which is around the year is about where 532 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 2: we would be, you know, on November November fifth, a 533 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:18,960 Speaker 2: fourth on election day. 534 00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: Well, you can see pretty clearly, I think where things 535 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 3: are going in direction. 536 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely. What was a few things that were noteworthy to 537 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 1: me in that polling. Number one, most of the increase 538 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: in the number of people who thought that the Israelis 539 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: had gone too far, actually wasn't Democrats who already thought 540 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: that for a while. The biggest increases came from Independence 541 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: and even Republicans, a third of whom now say that 542 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: the response has gone too far. That was really noteworthy. Also, 543 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,679 Speaker 1: if you dig into some of the details of this poll, 544 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:53,640 Speaker 1: you can see the problem that Biden has with some 545 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 1: really key parts of his base, and why this isn't 546 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: just a Michigan problem. It's not just an Arab American problem. 547 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,040 Speaker 1: It's not just a Muslim American problem. About six and 548 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:07,199 Speaker 1: ten non white Democrats disapprove of how Biden is approaching 549 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: the conflict. About half of white Democrats approved, So you 550 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: have a racial divide here, but sixty percent of non 551 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: white Democrats saying, no, Joe Biden, we do not like 552 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: what you are doing with regard to Israel. Non white Democrats, 553 00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: not even just all non white people, non white Democrats 554 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 1: sixty percent are like, no, we don't like this policy. 555 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: Seven in ten Democrats under forty five disapprove seven in ten. 556 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: That is the opposite of the attitude of older Democrats, 557 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: among whom nearly six in ten approve. So the biggest 558 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: divide on this issue is an age divide. Seven in 559 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: ten Democrats, so seventy percent under forty five saying this 560 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: is horrifying. And we've showed you, shown you the polls 561 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: in the past where a majority of Democrats now say 562 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: Israel is committing a genocide and another thirty percent are 563 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: not sure and think they may be committing a genocide. 564 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,480 Speaker 1: So you know, that is the context for understanding why 565 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: it would be insulting that this administration official goes to 566 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: Michigan and says, well, we've just left a very damaging impression. No, 567 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:18,479 Speaker 1: it's we have a very accurate impression of exactly what 568 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: your policy is. The problem isn't the impression that's been left. 569 00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: The problem is the policy itself. And until you change that, 570 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: you can kiss like this is incredibly demoralizing to so 571 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: many parts of your base, and not just one little 572 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: like narrow constituency in Michigan that potentially you could make 573 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: up with suburban women or something somewhere else. 574 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: In the same That's a very good point, Bristol, All right, 575 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: what are you taking a look at? 576 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: On January twenty ninth, a harrowing call came into the 577 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: Palestinian Red Crescent Society. A six year old girl, Hindra Job, 578 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: was trapped being shot at by Israeli occupation forces. Every 579 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: other family member in the car had already been killed. 580 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: In a call that lasted for hours, the terrified child 581 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: beg the Red Crescent to please come and rescue her. 582 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: Come take me, she says, Come take you please. I'm scared. 583 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 1: Come quick, call someone to come take me. Please. Okay, 584 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: my dear, I will come and take you. Now. A 585 00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:21,200 Speaker 1: volunteer from the Red Crescent is coordinating so we can 586 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: come and take you. And you hear gunfire. There's gunfire 587 00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:30,080 Speaker 1: around you. Yes, come take me, my dear. I swear 588 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: I want to take you, but I can't right now. 589 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 1: The family had been attempting to flee Gaza City. Hin's 590 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: mother and older siblings were attempting the truck by foot, 591 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: but because of the cold and the rain, hisn's mother 592 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: sent her in the car with her aunt, uncle and cousins, 593 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,920 Speaker 1: thinking this would be safer and less arduous for her 594 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: baby girl. But in a destroyed suburb of Gaza City, 595 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 1: the car came under fire by the idf Now, the 596 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: first call into the Red Crescent actually came from his 597 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,479 Speaker 1: fifteen year old cousin, Leon. Leon told them her parents 598 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: and siblings had already been killed. They are shooting at us. 599 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: The tank is next to me. The call ended amid 600 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:10,920 Speaker 1: rapid gunfire, and terrified shrieks. Next came that desperate call 601 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: from Hint herself. The Red Crescent jumped into action to 602 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: try to rescue this child. They reached out to the 603 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 1: Ida and an attempt to secure safe passage for their 604 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: ambulance and for the rescuers, using standard deconfliction practices to 605 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 1: keep their own medics from coming under fire. For hours, 606 00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: they waited to hear back from the Israelis as Hind 607 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: pleaded for help, telling them to please come that she 608 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: was afraid of the dark. Finally, after three long hours, 609 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: the Red Crescent got the green light. The ambulance had 610 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: been cleared to move to Hind's location. According to the 611 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: Red Crescent dispatcher, it wasn't long before that ambulance also 612 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: came under idea fire. 613 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 3: Quote. 614 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: First, the paramedics said, the Israeli forces are putting laser 615 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: lights on them, and then we heard a gunfire sound 616 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: before we lost the connection. It was like a gunfire 617 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: or explosion. We were not sure of what happened. For days, 618 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: the Red Crescent heard nothing from their medics, and the 619 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: heavy idea of presence made it too dangerous to send 620 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: any additional rescuers. The organization was left to post desperate 621 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: pleas to the public on their social media channels, alerting 622 00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: the world to Hint's plight. Finally, on Saturday, after twelve 623 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: days of worrying and no news, all of our worst 624 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: fears were confirmed. Israeli troops moved out, and Hin's family 625 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 1: was able to return to the area and locate the 626 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 1: destroyed vehicle where Hint had issued her final desperate plea 627 00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: in the car where the decomposing remains of Hint alongside 628 00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: her cousins, including Leon and her aunt and her uncle, 629 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: and just down of reach, maybe a block away, was 630 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: the charred remains of the ambulance which had been sent 631 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: to rescue this little girl, who instead spent her final 632 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: moments alone and completely terrified. Red Crescent crew Yusuf Zeno 633 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 1: and Ahmed Al la Dune were also murdered by the IDF, 634 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: in spite of being in a van clearly marked ambulance, 635 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: and in spite of having received explicit permission for the 636 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: operation by the IDF. Now you can see in this video, 637 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: first you're looking here at the ambulance, and then within 638 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:11,400 Speaker 1: sight down the road is the car where Hind spent 639 00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: her final hours. You can imagine these medic heroes, so 640 00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 1: close to Hind, barely out of reach, when their vehicle 641 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 1: was targeted and their own lives taken. I hope all 642 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: of these souls rest in peace, their final agony and 643 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 1: torment now at an end. Targeting an ambulance it's a 644 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: war crime. Killing children other civilians also war crimes. There 645 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 1: was no fighting on going the area between Hamas and 646 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: the IDFs, so these vehicles were themselves targeted, not accidentally 647 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,200 Speaker 1: caught in the crossfire. Hind and Layon now take their 648 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 1: place among the more than thirteen thousand Palestinian kids who've 649 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: been killed by Israel since their assault on Gaza began. 650 00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: This is carnage that Joe Biden describes weekly as quote 651 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: over the top. No, this is massacring children, targeting medics, 652 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: pushing an already terrorized and display people to God knows where. 653 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: This is not over the top. This is genocide. The 654 00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 1: IDF has yet to comment on this particular atrocity. Perhaps 655 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: they need some time to fabricate a Hamas command and 656 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: control center under the ambulance, or an intercepted audio recording 657 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: of six year old Hind revealing she's actually a hardened 658 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: Hamas terrorist. Liberal Western media jumped in to signal their 659 00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: concern with the most sanitized and accountability free or welling 660 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,800 Speaker 1: language possible. As noted by academic assault Rod, the premier 661 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 1: outlets of Western journalism, The Times, The Post, CNN, and 662 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: the BBC all failed to use the word killed or 663 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 1: to so much as mention Israel in their headlines about 664 00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: Hin's murder. New York Times choice here is emblematic quote 665 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: missing six year old and rescue team found dead in Gaza. 666 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,439 Speaker 1: AID group says as if they just dropped dead under 667 00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 1: mysterious circumstances. Now, for the American taxpayers who are listening 668 00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: to this, you should also know that your tax dollars 669 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,320 Speaker 1: funded this horror. Shell fragments from an American maid M 670 00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: eight thirty a one were found at the scene of 671 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: the bombed out Red Crescent Ambulance. State Department spokesperson Matt 672 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: Miller was asked about hims killing and the use of 673 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,960 Speaker 1: American made weapons as usual, he really had nothing to say. 674 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 7: On the killing of a six year old h right 675 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 7: up after an Israeli chank target. It's their family car 676 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 7: in Gaza. The Geneva, Geneva based nonprofit Euromed Human Rights 677 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 7: Monitor determined that the IDEF is responsible for the bombing 678 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 7: of the ambulance that attempted to rescue Hindi, and it 679 00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 7: also reported that American made weapons was found at the 680 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 7: bomb ambulance. Have you seen that report and do you 681 00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 7: have any response? 682 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, we are devastated about the reports of the death 683 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 4: of hindrajab. I will tell you that I have a 684 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 4: little girl that's about to turn six myself, and so 685 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 4: it is just a devastating account, a heartbreaking account for 686 00:35:58,000 --> 00:35:59,800 Speaker 4: this child. And of course there have been thousands of 687 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 4: their children who have died as a result of this conflict, 688 00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,719 Speaker 4: and every one of them is a tragedy that I know. 689 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: I can tell you everyone in the United States government. 690 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,480 Speaker 3: Feels quite deeply. 691 00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 4: We have asked the Israeli authorities to investigate this incident 692 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 4: on an urgent basis. We understand that they are doing so. 693 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: We expect to. 694 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 4: See those results on a timely fashion, and they should 695 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 4: include accountability measures as. 696 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: Appropriate, accountability measures as appropriate. Not going to hold my 697 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 1: breath on that. One Secretary of State Tony Blinken says 698 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,479 Speaker 1: he will spend the rest of his life thinking about 699 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 1: the thousands of children killed in Gaza. I hope he 700 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 1: and all the other criminals with blood on their hands 701 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: will be haunted by Hen's face for every single second 702 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: of the rest of their days. I hope they can't 703 00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:50,839 Speaker 1: sleep at night imagining her final moments of terror. Unfortunately, 704 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 1: I doubt any of them has enough of a soul 705 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: left to even care. But make no mistake, While some 706 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: have more direct culpability than others, the truth is we 707 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: all failed lay On, We failed us, if we failed Ahmed, 708 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,680 Speaker 1: and we all failed Hint. As Israel says its sites 709 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,279 Speaker 1: now on Ratha, Remember, millions of innocence, just like Hint 710 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: and Leon, are sheltering there, seeking refuge, with literally nowhere 711 00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,399 Speaker 1: else to go, each loss as devastating and tragic as 712 00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 1: that of this heartbreakingly adorable little girl who will now 713 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: never see her seventh birthday. Bombs stamped made in America 714 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:30,480 Speaker 1: snuffing out these precious lives, and our president occasionally emerging 715 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 1: from his fog to issue a weak protestation while rushing 716 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 1: to ship more deadly child killing weapons and sager on 717 00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:39,440 Speaker 1: that interaction. 718 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,240 Speaker 2: And if you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue, 719 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,400 Speaker 2: become a Premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. 720 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 3: Thank you guys so much for watching. We really appreciate you. 721 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,160 Speaker 2: Counterpoints is going to have more coverage, probably on this subject, 722 00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 2: I'm assuming, as well as more on the Ukraine AID 723 00:37:57,840 --> 00:37:59,399 Speaker 2: and all of that, so we will see you all 724 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:00,000 Speaker 2: on Thursday. 725 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,440 Speaker 4: We want to keep Putt to ta