1 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This He's Talking 3 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: Cowboys training live from Dallas Cowboys Training Camp, Innard. 4 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:23,120 Speaker 2: Callus Street, Sat txtown six. 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: Test twenty patient tuxtdown and now your hosts Isaiah Standback, 6 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,680 Speaker 1: Nick Harris, John Mashoda, and Kyle Yeomans. 7 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 2: That's me. 8 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 3: Welcome into Talking Cowboys, presented by Black Rifle Coffee Company, 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: live on site in training Camp twenty twenty three. 10 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 4: Isaiah, do you know what day it is? It is five? 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 2: With your chest Friday? 12 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: First, say it with your chest Friday of twenty twenty 13 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 3: three or the twenty twenty three season. That is Welcome 14 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: to the show, John Matchoda, Nick Harris, Isaiah stand Back. 15 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: I'm Kyle Yeomans, Chris being running things in the back 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 3: and not only. 17 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 4: Yeah you gotta you gotta like bang the chest like 18 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 4: King Kong. 19 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, well oh his mic oh no, what a start 20 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 3: to say it with your chest Friday. This is what 21 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 3: this is, live television, live, live podcasting for everybody. 22 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 4: Okay, we got you. 23 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 2: Okay, what day is it? 24 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: Isaiah? 25 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 2: It is John? 26 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 4: Okay, Kyle started doing that on the show a long 27 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: time again. 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 5: What if you don't have a chest? 29 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, oh man, but say with your chest Friday. Of 30 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: course you gotta say it with your chest. It's pretty 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 3: self explanatory. But here's the cool thing about today. Not 32 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 3: only are we going to get to say it with 33 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: our chest up here at the desk, but you can 34 00:01:57,960 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: say it with your chest at home. For the first 35 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,080 Speaker 3: time in Talking Cowboys history, we have a we have 36 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: a Cowboys podcast. Text line eight one seven two nine 37 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,799 Speaker 3: zero three two nine eight. I'll say one more time 38 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 3: for you, but write it down, don't forget it, because 39 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 3: I mean I'll probably say it one hundred times. 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: Eight one seven two nine zero three two nine eight. 41 00:02:19,639 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 3: We're gonna take your questions off of the text line 42 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 3: going into the second segment. 43 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 4: But gentlemen, let me ask you. 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 5: A stupid question. 45 00:02:25,240 --> 00:02:27,519 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, is that just for this show? 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: Is this for all the Cowboys podcast? All the cowboy 47 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: that's gonna be the same number of people can have 48 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 5: for like the entire Okay, well, I just all right. 49 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 4: John's over here trying to say, trying to cross promote. 50 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 5: It lifts all boats. 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 4: It does. 52 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 3: It definitely lifts all boats. Because it does I guess 53 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 3: somebody give me a pin. I'm just gonna put talking 54 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 3: cowboy podcast line. 55 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 4: Sorry, gonna write on it. 56 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 5: Sorry about that, Okay, okay, okay, okay. 57 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 4: Honestly, the competition is his fault. 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 3: If we're being real and there's there's trash talk there, Oh, no, 59 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 3: Isaiah's having problem. So this is a perfect segue though, 60 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: and that's why Isaiah's in television. We're talking about competition 61 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 3: and we're talking about a little bit of trash talk, right, 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 3: That's been the talk around camp over the last couple 63 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: of days. 64 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 4: Dak Prescott, Trayvon Diggs. 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,799 Speaker 3: I mean, the trash talk has certainly been there, But Nick, 66 00:03:24,880 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 3: I mean that's competition, right. 67 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 4: Is it anything more than that? 68 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 3: In terms of what what Trayvon said to Dak, And 69 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 3: of course we can't really say it on these air 70 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 3: these air waves, but what was your takeaway from seeing 71 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 3: the trash talk. 72 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 4: And hearing it from the guys on the field. 73 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, whenever I first held the video, I loved it 74 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 6: and I didn't think it would blow up in the 75 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 6: way that it did. And you know, I think, like 76 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 6: Dak said yesterday in his press conference, he was like, Yeah, 77 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 6: anybody that thinks that there was something going on there 78 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 6: clearly has never been in heated competition, and you know, 79 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 6: it doesn't have someone that they can compete with on 80 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 6: a day to day basis. 81 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 7: And this is a second show in around about to 82 00:03:59,200 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 7: make a Madden compare. 83 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 6: And I really don't like Madden, so this is crazy, 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 6: But whenever I played Madden with my boys, that's the 85 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 6: talk that's going on. I mean, like, hey, come on now, 86 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 6: we gotta we gotta, we gotta come around on this. 87 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 6: If this is the topic we're gonna pull from Cowboys 88 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 6: training camp this week, it's it's pretty soft. 89 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 7: It's pretty soft. 90 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 5: I think some thought that the B word might have 91 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 5: crossed the line calling a team team made. 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 2: That's fair. 93 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 5: I think that's what what stood out is because then 94 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 5: you can sit there and compare it to well, have 95 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 5: you ever heard a video of this teammate? 96 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 4: Ever seen that? 97 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 5: To Joe Burrow, have you ever heard this of this 98 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 5: teammate saying it's Petri Mahomes, It's like, well, yeah, I mean, 99 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 5: just because there's not a video doesn't mean that it 100 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: doesn't get heated like that. But also, I just think 101 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 5: that we're in a part of the season. Training camp 102 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:44,799 Speaker 5: just started you know, national media looking for talking points 103 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 5: and things like that, and anything that you can get 104 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 5: from the Dallas Cowboys, you know, is a huge deal. 105 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 2: I won't name the. 106 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 5: Station, but like after the Earl Spence fight the other night, 107 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 5: and I go back to my room and sitting there 108 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 5: watching TV and there's a sports show on and the 109 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 5: top stories are the Earl Spence fight, the UFC fight, 110 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 5: and then Dak Prescott turns thirty. Wow, that's that's your 111 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 5: third biggest survey because it's the Cowboys. And so I 112 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 5: think that's another big part of this. 113 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:18,599 Speaker 8: The issue revolving around this this trade, this this digs 114 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 8: and freaking Dak Prescott issue is the fact that it 115 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 8: was on film. 116 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 2: That's the only issue. 117 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 8: And then people need to understand this goes down every day, 118 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 8: not every day. Every day, there's three hours in there. 119 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 8: Oka or if you don't have this on your team, 120 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 8: then like you don't have competition. And as a former competitor, 121 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 8: and I compete in everything, okay, I mean I compete 122 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 8: on who can sit on the toilet the longest. 123 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 4: If you really want to go. 124 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 8: Head to head, I'd be like, this is what happens 125 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 8: all the time, and this is like if you and 126 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 8: I are talking mess to each other day, I got 127 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 8: your back, like like jan Sports, you know what I'm saying, Like, Wen, 128 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 8: I got to talk to mess to you all day long. 129 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 8: I can say whatever I need to about you. I 130 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 8: know I'm not gonna offend you. It's gonna drive us 131 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 8: both to better and compete against each other better. But 132 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 8: if somebody else I'm from another team says something to 133 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 8: you about you, like now I have a problem with them, 134 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 8: Like I can do that to you, they can't do 135 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,599 Speaker 8: that to you. So it's a brotherhood literally, a brotherhood. 136 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 8: You ever, all of us have close friends and we 137 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 8: talk crazy to our close friends. They talk crazy about us. 138 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 8: We say things to them that we would never say 139 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 8: to anybody else. But if somebody else was on the 140 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 8: outside was to say it to them, you would have 141 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:24,479 Speaker 8: their back and you would be right there in front 142 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 8: of them, protecting them, like nobody's business. That is the 143 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 8: same exact thing that's going on with this Dallas Cowboys team, 144 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 8: And everybody's gonna say who. Nobody says that to Tom Brady. 145 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 8: Nobody said that the Patrick Mahomes. 146 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 5: You don't know that, Yeah, you don't know that. 147 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: I've seen Tom Brady in practice. Yeah, he talks mess. 148 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 2: He talks mess. 149 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 8: Okay, I've been with some other quarterbacks they talk mess. 150 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 8: And then there's guys who just don't. That's just not 151 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 8: their vibe, right, They talk with their game and that's okay. 152 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 8: But when you know that, you're a competitor, really like, 153 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 8: that's that's what he grew up around. Look at look 154 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 8: at Stefan Diggs. He talks mess. 155 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 2: That's what he does. And then they back it up. 156 00:06:57,920 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 2: So like you want to see it. 157 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 4: I love to see it. You love to see it. 158 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 2: It's good stuff, man. People stop making a big deal 159 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 2: about it. 160 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 8: This is gonna transition in a positive way into the games, 161 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 8: and you want to see your other guys getting into 162 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 8: it too. 163 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 2: Some guys just don't use their mouth to do so. 164 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 2: Some guys go out there and bush. 165 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 4: In the mouth. 166 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 5: My favorite trash talk moment might have been out here 167 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 5: one year. Dez Bryant was just real fired up like 168 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,280 Speaker 5: he would always get, and he literally went down the 169 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 5: line and it was just like I think it stands 170 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 5: out to me because everything was kind of quiet and 171 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 5: it was just clear as day to hear it, and 172 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 5: he just went right down the line to every dB 173 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 5: and goes, you can't guard me, you can't guard me, 174 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 5: you can't guard me. You you, and you can't guard me, 175 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 5: just like one after another. I will always remember that 176 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: it was one of my favorite moments because it was 177 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 5: just so clean. You could just hear it no matter 178 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 5: where you were out here. But the other thing that 179 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 5: factors into this too is that even if you go 180 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 5: back to like some of those teams DES was on, 181 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 5: there were times where the defense wasn't on the same 182 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 5: level as the offense. And one of the reasons why 183 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 5: I think this trash talk stands out right now and 184 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 5: this team is because there's so much talent on both 185 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 5: sides of the ball that it really is. It's just 186 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 5: as competitive as I've seen it because of how how 187 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 5: high that you know, the talent level is on both sides. 188 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 8: Some of the most competitive guys that I've played with, 189 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 8: and I've been blessed to play with a lot of 190 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 8: really good dudes talk mess they do. I mean, you 191 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 8: go back to my teams when I was here in Dallas, 192 00:08:13,080 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 8: We're win thirteen to three. In the following year, we 193 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 8: had pac Man Jones, we had t O, we had 194 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 8: Tant Johnson. 195 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 196 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: We had Jay rat Leman. 197 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 4: We had some dudes. Now, Brady Jane, we had some dudes. 198 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 7: Are gonna talk right, two of the four on the 199 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 7: Mount Rushmore. 200 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 2: I'll tell you, man, you know what I'm saying. 201 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 8: Like in like other stops that I've made, this happens 202 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 8: all the time, and it's almost like if you go 203 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 8: and practice with that, I'm surprised. 204 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 2: There hasn't been no fights. Yeah, Like I'm used to 205 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: fights every day at camp. This is like the clean. 206 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 4: Practices. 207 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: I think. 208 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 8: I'm sure we'll get there. But long story short, this 209 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 8: is good for football. This is good for the Dallas Cowboys. 210 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,240 Speaker 8: It's only going to raise their level will play. What 211 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 8: was the worst thing you were ever called on the 212 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 8: football field? I wasn't really a talker, Kyle, So like 213 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,600 Speaker 8: to that point, like I could talk? Does that mean 214 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,719 Speaker 8: people didn't talk to you? People talk to me about it? 215 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 8: It's just noise to me, it's just noise. I think 216 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 8: you know why I take it back? It was I 217 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 8: have to go back to college because the NFL. I 218 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 8: didn't really have too much of that in college. I 219 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 8: was playing against Organ at Organ and it was a 220 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:14,920 Speaker 8: pretty competitive game. And there's some dude by the name 221 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 8: of Heloda Nada. 222 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah it's pretty good. 223 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 2: Yeah, and Heloa Nad. 224 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 8: I came up to the line of scrimmage and Heloa, 225 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 8: now that called me the B word that you heard 226 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 8: the other day in practice. 227 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 2: And he said, hey, you're a little bob and I looked, 228 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: I said, what did I do to offend you? 229 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 9: Right? 230 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 4: So I'm looking at the three hundred and forty five man, 231 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, I. 232 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: Didn't do anything to you. But in my head that 233 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: was in my head, but physically I was like, hey, man, 234 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: well you know what I'm saying. 235 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 8: So the next play, next series, I went out there 236 00:09:42,040 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 8: and freaking just screwed him over threw a touchdown right 237 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 8: down the middle. 238 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 2: And I looked back at I was like, yeah, you too. 239 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:48,720 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. 240 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 2: And he was like, okay, guys, okay, that was it. 241 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,400 Speaker 8: But like I walked away to the other direction. But 242 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,079 Speaker 8: now that's it's a part of the game, man. And 243 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 8: after that is respect. It's a respect factor. If I'm 244 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 8: talking to you like there's if we're on equal levels, 245 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 8: I could talk to you like that, you talk to 246 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 8: me like that, and it's a mutual respect. It's different 247 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 8: than talking down to somebody. It's totally different than talking 248 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 8: to it. And most people I would imagine that have 249 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 8: heard those words and those terms spoken to them. It 250 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 8: was probably in a condescending manner. This was not in 251 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 8: a condescending manner. 252 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 4: This was an a I. 253 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 8: Respect you, you respect me. Okay, we're gonna see who 254 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 8: was the best out here fighting it out. We're fighting 255 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 8: it out right. This was not one person up here, 256 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 8: one person out here. It would be different if Dak 257 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 8: said that to somebody who, you know, a free agent 258 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 8: who just got on a team, you know, voting for 259 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 8: a special team spot like that's That's not what this was. 260 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 8: These were two high caliber athletes that are both well 261 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,960 Speaker 8: paid and both highly cherished by there by their organizations, 262 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 8: and these guys are gonna go compete against each other. 263 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 3: And that's kind of what the national conversation turned into 264 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 3: is does this team respect Dak? 265 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 4: If this is the case, if those were. 266 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: The words that were used, if that was the trash 267 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 3: talk that was heard on tape, then do they respect 268 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,319 Speaker 3: Dak and Nick? I don't think there's any question. I 269 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,280 Speaker 3: mean begins and ends with four, right, I mean, this 270 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 3: locker room begins and it ends with four. Yes, there 271 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 3: are other leaders in there, but Dak Prescott is the 272 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 3: leader of that locker room. 273 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 6: Yeah, on a day to day basis, he's the guy 274 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 6: that everyone's looking at and looking at it for example. 275 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 6: But you know, even Dak said it yesterday, He's like, 276 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 6: I'm the one that starts to talk. You know, I'm 277 00:11:15,840 --> 00:11:18,079 Speaker 6: arguably worse than what was said in that video. Y'all 278 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 6: just happened to not catch me on camera. It's it's 279 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 6: it's crazy, how out of proportion. It's it's gotten blown 280 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 6: up to be. But yeah, there's there's no question in 281 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 6: my mind that there's a respect factor there with every 282 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 6: single person on the team, all other eighty nine players. 283 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 6: It's it's it's wild. I can't believe for having this conversations, 284 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 6: I can't believe it is. It just blows my mind. 285 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 8: Of a condescending manner. Okay, where smack talk is happening, 286 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 8: and again it comes from Mount Rushmore and TiO. I 287 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 8: don't remember who we're playing against, but TiO was routing 288 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 8: somebody up and it was just an inferior cornerback that 289 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 8: I should not have been sticking him and to turned 290 00:11:53,480 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 8: all of us on the sideline. After routing his dude 291 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 8: up and catching the ball, he tosses his ball to 292 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 8: the referee. He looks back. He doesn't even look at 293 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 8: the dude. He points his thumb over his shoulders. Said 294 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 8: this dude right here is a chump. And then he 295 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 8: goes out there, lines up, wraps him up again. 296 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: He said, I told you he's a chump. 297 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:09,520 Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. That is like, hey, like 298 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 4: get off me, like you can't mess with me. 299 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 8: But like when you're mutual, you know when them guys 300 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:14,599 Speaker 8: used to go out and pac Man and t O 301 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 8: and and or Pagan or t O and t New 302 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 8: or Roy Williams and t New Like that's that stuff 303 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 8: that will go on all the time. Even Randy Moss, 304 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 8: Randy Moss is out there when I was in New 305 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 8: England that he talks a mess too. 306 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 2: He was kind of a lot less aggressive with it, 307 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: but he still talked. 308 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 8: That is that's the stuff that you want to see, man, 309 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 8: because it sparks a fire in the level of competition. 310 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 8: That's when you want to start seeing guys and the 311 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 8: coach blows the whist up to go to the next drill. 312 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:40,560 Speaker 8: Back in the day, we shuld be like, hey, coach, 313 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 8: no disrespect, but no, we got business. We still got 314 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 8: to finish over here, like we're not done yet. You 315 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 8: know that's the you love that competition. 316 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 4: You can't teach that. 317 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 9: Well. 318 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 3: Uh, you mentioned Tom Brady earlier. You have a Tom 319 00:12:50,800 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 3: Brady story about trash talking in the super Bowl. 320 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 4: You know what I'm talking about. When you were on 321 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: the sideline, he was yelling at you and you were, Oh. 322 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:01,439 Speaker 2: No, that was in the super Bowl. That was I 323 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: thought it was No, that was the that was the 324 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 2: next Was it the next year, the year after? 325 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 4: Maybe? Yeah, I think it was a year after. I 326 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 4: think it was a year after. Yeah. 327 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 8: We were playing in the preseason and I was on 328 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 8: special teams going to cover a kick. I was going 329 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 8: to cover a kick and I was getting off the device. 330 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,000 Speaker 8: I don't know, people know what advice is when two 331 00:13:21,080 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 8: guys are trying to stop the one guy on punt 332 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,040 Speaker 8: that's trying to go down there and force a fair catch, 333 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 8: and I was I was struggling. 334 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:29,160 Speaker 4: That was really my first time ever doing I had 335 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,120 Speaker 4: never even done any practice. 336 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 8: They threw me out there and I'm running down there 337 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:33,719 Speaker 8: and I got one threw one guy off me, and 338 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 8: I ended up like getting fed up and kind of 339 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 8: just stopping and grabbing underneath the dude's face mask and 340 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 8: picked him up and like slammed him like DDT them 341 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 8: one hand and I like dropped the elbow on him 342 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,240 Speaker 8: and I got up and kept running and uh. 343 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 4: And as we're going to the slum we're playing against 344 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 4: New England, Tom Brady's. 345 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 2: Like, Isaiah, you're a little bit like. 346 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 4: It was just like it's respect, you know what I mean? Like, 347 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: and that's that's the thing. I mean. You you mentioned 348 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 4: t O. I've heard Cowboys teammates. 349 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 3: Of t say that that was the best teammate they 350 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 3: ever had, and he was one of the best trash 351 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 3: talkers that. 352 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:06,559 Speaker 4: They had ever had. 353 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: People loved jay Ron Curse, Dak Prescott named him yesterday 354 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,600 Speaker 3: as the top trash talker on the team. 355 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 4: It's a part of the game. And this is why 356 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 4: I love the fact that we have this text line. 357 00:14:15,640 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: Brian and Denver texted and he said, the disrespect argument 358 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: is off base because Diggs said that to say what 359 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 3: he said, but Dak started it and said something to 360 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 3: Diggs first, so it's it's not even a disrespect. 361 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 4: It's just trash talk. It's the give and take. 362 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: And then there was another from Steve from Charlotte, North 363 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 3: Carolina said, shout out to the media member that caught 364 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 3: the real competition on tape, and that's what it was. 365 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 4: It was that real competition. 366 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: That's the iron sharpens iron that we've talked about so 367 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 3: much on this show. 368 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: And we did burn an entire first segment talking about. 369 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 3: It, but it really is it's a non topic, but 370 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 3: it has blown up into this big topic because of that, 371 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 3: because of the star that's on the chest and the 372 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 3: star that's on the helmet, because it's always going to 373 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,680 Speaker 3: be a topic of conversation. 374 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: But when we come back here on Talking. 375 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 3: Cowboys, takeaways from Padded Practice number three, the defense looked 376 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 3: unstoppable at times, and we're going to talk about Dak 377 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 3: Prescott and how he's looked out here in practice, So 378 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 3: you don't want to miss anything coming up. 379 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 4: Talking Cowboys returns. 380 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 10: Right after this, Todd thought it would be secure to 381 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 10: jog in the Cheatah Savannah. 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Heading into 427 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 3: segment number two, we're going to take your questions on 428 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 3: the Cowboys Podcast text line eight one seven two nine 429 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,920 Speaker 3: zero three two nine eight. But before we get into that, 430 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,720 Speaker 3: I'll allow for these text messages to keep on filing through. 431 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 3: I want to talk about your impressions from yesterday's practice, 432 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 3: and we will have another practice tomorrow. 433 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 4: That's the big one. We got a scrimmage going on. 434 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 3: The Blue and White Scrimmage get started at eleven am 435 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 3: Pacific time, one pm Central time. We'll have it broadcast 436 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: on t XA twenty one the entirety of the practice, 437 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,400 Speaker 3: so that'll be a whole lot of fun. But John, 438 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 3: I'll start with you impressions from yesterday and really a 439 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:16,720 Speaker 3: defensive led practice. 440 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 5: It was, and because of that, from the video standpoint, 441 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 5: it was kind of boring to me. I thought it 442 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 5: was kind of a letdowns. Like we do this thing 443 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 5: on the sideline sometimes where we will be a joking 444 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 5: around how we'll yell in run the cool plays just 445 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:31,440 Speaker 5: because we want the tweets to blow up. But no, 446 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:34,360 Speaker 5: I would say one of the things that stood out 447 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 5: was there were a couple couple of passes from Dak 448 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,240 Speaker 5: to one that almost got picked off by Gilmour, only 449 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 5: got the one foot in Trayvon Diggs. I had a 450 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,159 Speaker 5: pick on a ball that came after it there was 451 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 5: an off side penalty. So it wasn't like, you know, 452 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:50,119 Speaker 5: those aren't like these major concerns or anything, but those 453 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 5: are the ones that people see and they're like, oh, 454 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 5: Dax thrown interceptions again, Deak thrown interceptions. Like they're working 455 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:58,679 Speaker 5: on things that this is they're bringing in a new offense. 456 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 5: This isn't something that you know, like the throw to 457 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 5: semi Fojoko with Stefan Gilmour on him, Like if this 458 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 5: is on a Sunday, He's not even making that throw. 459 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 5: He's working on other things. He's trying to get other 460 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 5: receivers involved. And so I've honestly, I thought Dak looked 461 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 5: pretty good really throughout camp. I just he's such a 462 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,440 Speaker 5: lightning ride for everything. Part of it is probably because 463 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 5: how the end of the season last year and then 464 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 5: the other part of it is he's the face of 465 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 5: the of the franchise. But I would say out of 466 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 5: that another one other person stops me as Jonathan Hankins. 467 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 5: He just seemed like a disruptor in the middle when 468 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 5: they were doing things in the run game. But those 469 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 5: are probably the two biggest things for me. 470 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, and about the interceptions, would you rather it be 471 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 6: in week one or would you rather be in a 472 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 6: controlled environment out here when they're still trying things out? 473 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 6: You know, It's just that's another that's another rhetoric point 474 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 6: that's just kind of big thrown around as Dak's interceptions 475 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 6: during training camp. 476 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 7: We're talking about practice. We're talking about practice practice, But 477 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 7: Jonathan Hankins, I do you want to touch on that? 478 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:56,719 Speaker 5: Man? 479 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:58,120 Speaker 7: He had an awesome day yesterday. 480 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 6: And talking about that interior defensive line, we could we 481 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 6: could take Mazzie smith out of the equation. Since Jonathan 482 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 6: Hagens has come in, there has been a clear improvement there. 483 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 6: And if he can unlock kind of that athleticism and 484 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 6: extra step that he had, you know, a couple of 485 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 6: years ago, and bring it back and pair that with 486 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 6: Mazzie Smith Man, that's that's the perfect defensive line. That's 487 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,160 Speaker 6: that's what you want to look at. Also, a Digie 488 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 6: Zoo had an awesome day himself yesterday. I think everything 489 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 6: in that interior defensive line is looking exactly how you 490 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 6: want it to look right now. 491 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,040 Speaker 3: And that's what's scary about training camp is because it's 492 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 3: it's your guys versus their guys. So is it the 493 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: defensive front is just that ahead of everyone else and they're. 494 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 4: Just that good? 495 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 5: Looks that way right now? 496 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 4: It does? But or is it the fact that your 497 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 4: offense is just not very good the offensive line is 498 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 4: not very good. 499 00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 3: You kind of you have to take everything in consideration 500 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: and in context, and you don't have any other context 501 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:50,760 Speaker 3: to go up again. So this offensive line might be 502 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 3: okay against normal competition, but against one of the better 503 00:20:54,720 --> 00:20:57,240 Speaker 3: defensive fronts in football, they're just getting. 504 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 4: Their their behinds whooped. I mean, that's just kind of 505 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 4: what it is. Yeah, they're just getting there, just getting beat. 506 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 8: At this point, it wasn't all bad, you guys. It 507 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,399 Speaker 8: wasn't all bad for the offensive line. I think that 508 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 8: there were some good things. Obviously, those guys are facing 509 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,320 Speaker 8: Mozzie Smith and actually they had a big package. 510 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: Did you guys notice that Yezi. 511 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 8: Bow Mazzi Hankins and I think it was for Hoko 512 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 8: that was thrown in there as well. Fill Yeah, they 513 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 8: had a big package. So that was pretty often awesome 514 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 8: to see. I don't know how you run against that, 515 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,199 Speaker 8: but uh, but there was some some positive and one 516 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 8: of the positives I saw from somebody who needs some 517 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 8: positive right now. 518 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 4: Was Ronald Jones. 519 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 8: Ronald Jones had some good runs yesterday, man, and he 520 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 8: showed some bursts that I didn't know he had to 521 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,640 Speaker 8: be quite honest. He made some nice moves in the backfield, 522 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 8: obviously with some some pressure back there, and he created 523 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 8: There's one thing to be able to go out there 524 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 8: and have a nice executed run based upon the way 525 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 8: that you designed it on paper, but it's another thing 526 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 8: for things to get blown up and for you actually 527 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,280 Speaker 8: to create something, create some space in the backfield and 528 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 8: then cross the line of scrimmage and then show a 529 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 8: little burst to get downfield. I think there were some 530 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 8: positive there. Obviously, he's gonna continue to have his momentum, 531 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,159 Speaker 8: continue to put his work in because he's preparing now 532 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 8: for Week three instead of you know, the preseason and 533 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 8: or the first two games. So that was positive and 534 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 8: then on the flip side, uh Stefani Gilmore And I 535 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 8: know he's quiet, you know, quiet assassin really, but the 536 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 8: things that he does that don't that don't get talked about, 537 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 8: they don't show up on the stat line, which is 538 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 8: Kyle knows, I'm not a big, a huge advocate of 539 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 8: stats all the time cause they don't show the whole picture. 540 00:22:25,880 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: He is going to contribute to so many. 541 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 8: Other guy's success because of his understanding of splits, his 542 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 8: understanding of route concepts, his his elimination of possibilities. You know, 543 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 8: I was sitting there with Derek Eagleton yesterday watching practice 544 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 8: and I was explaining to him just his progression. 545 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,040 Speaker 4: You know, it's like it's like a multiple choice tests. 546 00:22:47,320 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 8: You know, you go out there, you walk on, the 547 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 8: offense comes to the line of scrimmage and there's you know, 548 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 8: six you know, possible answers, and he eliminates two of 549 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 8: them right off the back right, and then obviously then 550 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 8: then they had the ball snapped in his stem, the 551 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 8: stem of the receiver. 552 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 4: Eliminate another two. 553 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 8: So now he has a fifty fifty chance on what 554 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 8: he's selecting in terms of what you could possibly run 555 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 8: and then you know, if something goes over his non 556 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 8: verbal communication to be able to pass it off, pass 557 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 8: off his responsibilities to other guys, to alert them as 558 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,959 Speaker 8: to what's coming their way. It's just gonna help tremendously. 559 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,080 Speaker 8: So to both of those guys, Ronald Jones and Stefan Gilmour. 560 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 8: They did some really amazing things that might not have 561 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 8: been shown on film, but they were all really good 562 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,360 Speaker 8: in terms of their sides of the ball. 563 00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 5: There were some center quarterback exchange issues, but that was 564 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 5: because Matt Farniak was was getting some work as the 565 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 5: backup center. Those weren't with Tyler Biattish. So again, training camp, 566 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 5: this is the time you want to work through that stuff. 567 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's all building on each other. And you mentioned 568 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,280 Speaker 4: Ronald Jones having a great day. I thought ric o'dowell junior. 569 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 4: I always call him Rico o dowdell junior. 570 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 2: Is he junior? 571 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 5: I can't remember, not sure. 572 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 4: Ric o'dowdell he had a great day as well. 573 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 3: But also Douce Fawn has been turning some heads, as 574 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:57,360 Speaker 3: you would think from somebody that was won a draft 575 00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: pick and two in a position of need at the moment. 576 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,800 Speaker 3: First question from the text line from the five to 577 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 3: five nine says, does duce Vaughn look like he's going 578 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 3: to be able to escape a lot of contact when 579 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 3: games begin? Or is that something we won't be able 580 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 3: to tell until the preseason happens. 581 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:12,280 Speaker 4: What do you think, Nick? 582 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 6: I think it's gonna be tough for him because there's 583 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 6: been a couple of times out here where he's like 584 00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 6: bounced off of tacklers where he'd be getting flattened in 585 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 6: a game. 586 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 13: So I. 587 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 6: Look, he's got the elusiveness, he's got, the bounce's going 588 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 6: to happen. I just don't think it's gonna be on 589 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 6: a consistent basis that everyone might think. You know, I 590 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,960 Speaker 6: think coming into camp, a lot of people were talking 591 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 6: about duce Vaughan being able to be a returner, like 592 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 6: he's got that much elusiveness and that much bounce. 593 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 7: I don't. I don't think. 594 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 6: So I want to temper expectations on duce Vaughan just 595 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 6: because I mean, I hate to say. 596 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:44,840 Speaker 7: I am being a hater, and I hate to be 597 00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 7: a hater because I love duce Vaughan. 598 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 6: But you know, I need I need to see it 599 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 6: on the NFL field first, That's all I agree with 600 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 6: you in the sense that you're. 601 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 2: Not gonna know what he's fully, fully capable of until. 602 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 8: The preseason games present themselves. The more I watch him, 603 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 8: the more I see Darren Sproles. If you watch Darren Spros, 604 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 8: Darren Sprolls is five six one ninety right, Darren Spros 605 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 8: was a complete dog, and not only because of the 606 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 8: offensive line that he was playing behind, but also the 607 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,639 Speaker 8: quarterback that he had. And he was just elusive, right 608 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 8: in the sense of he can't see him when he 609 00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 8: does pop out. He's quick, he's he's accelerating, you know, 610 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 8: his zero to sixty speed is very fast, and then 611 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 8: he's able to bounce off tackles. Tackles that would get 612 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 8: most six foot running backs down don't get him down 613 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 8: because he has low center gravity. His legs are strong 614 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 8: as all get out. I see the same thing Indus Bond, 615 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 8: and we don't know because yeah, you're only thudding up 616 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,640 Speaker 8: in practice. Thudding up, for those that don't know, means 617 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 8: that I'm gonna hit you at my shoulder pads and 618 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 8: my helmet, and I'm gonna let. 619 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 4: You go because you're my teammate. 620 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 3: It's an advanced form of two hand touch exactly right, 621 00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 3: A little physical two hand touched. 622 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 4: So that is what you're seeing in practice. So you 623 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 4: don't know. 624 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: You don't know did he would he have broken that tackle? 625 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. What do you even spun out of that? 626 00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 2: What do you have kept this balance? You don't know. 627 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 2: But you will know here, you know by by the 628 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 2: next weekend, you know, so you'll you'll figure that out 629 00:25:59,520 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 2: really quick. 630 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 4: And I'm excited to see it. I will say. 631 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 6: What always come back to is his game against Alabama 632 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 6: and how he was able to bounce off those guys. 633 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 6: I mean, those are NFL talents through and through on 634 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 6: that Crimson Ti defense. 635 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,119 Speaker 3: I rode down on the bus from the airport it 636 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 3: with Deuce, I mean we were in the same section 637 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:16,680 Speaker 3: of the bus and I asked him, I said, what 638 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 3: was your favorite college game? And he said, it's close, 639 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: he said. Most people would probably say that Alabama game, 640 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,719 Speaker 3: He's like, but for me, it was the first game 641 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 3: at AT and T Stadium. It was the first game 642 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,240 Speaker 3: of his sophomore year, and he played against Stanford and 643 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 3: he had I think three touchdowns. 644 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:33,920 Speaker 4: I think he had over one hundred and fifty yards 645 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 4: on the ground. 646 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,399 Speaker 3: It was like his coming out party, and it just 647 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 3: so happened to be at at and T Stadium and 648 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 3: it was the first game where he was really. 649 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 4: The number one back and he was the featured back. 650 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 3: He's looking to try and replicate some of that next 651 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 3: week in at and T Stadium again and his first 652 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,959 Speaker 3: NFL's experience as a back, because he's going to get 653 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 3: I would think he would get the majority of the carries. 654 00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:55,280 Speaker 3: I think Ronald Jones will get work. I think Malik 655 00:26:55,359 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 3: Davis will get similar work. I don't see a whole 656 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,919 Speaker 3: lot for each of one of those guys. I think 657 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 3: it'll be a Rico Doubtle, duce Fawn show, just to 658 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 3: see what these guys have doubt will coming back from injury. 659 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 4: And then Vaughan of course with the expectations that he has. 660 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 5: And my thing with duce Von is really the I've 661 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: never obviously played running back. It's the going from college 662 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 5: being the guy knowing every Saturday, I'm getting minimum fifteen touches, 663 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: might get twenty, might get twenty five, and then that 664 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 5: might even work a little bit in the preseason, but 665 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:26,480 Speaker 5: for him to be used in the regular season, he's 666 00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:28,679 Speaker 5: just not going to get those touches how I mean, 667 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 5: some guys are that's easier for them. I think for 668 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 5: some guys they need a lot of touches kind of 669 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 5: get themselves going. How can he fit into that where 670 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 5: it's like, hey, on Sunday, you might only touch the 671 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,360 Speaker 5: ball two times? Do you not try to do too 672 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 5: much to try and make something happen that you know 673 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,640 Speaker 5: maybe isn't there because you want to, you know kind of, Hey, 674 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,400 Speaker 5: I'm gonna put myself out there so that they can see, hey, 675 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: this is what I am. Because he's just not gonna 676 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 5: get those same the same amount of workload right away 677 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 5: that he did at Kansas State. 678 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 3: Is that something that Tony Pollard had to go through 679 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 3: at one point? I mean he was even a part 680 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 3: of a shared backfield at Memphis. He wasn't the number 681 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 3: one guy the entire time, right had one season really 682 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 3: where he was the featured back. 683 00:28:02,160 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: But I mean he kind of had to go through 684 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,440 Speaker 4: a little bit of that growing pain too, right. 685 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:08,479 Speaker 5: Yeah, Yeah, a little bit for sure. But I never 686 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 5: thought of him as like the featured number one guy 687 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 5: that like, obviously Zeke was at Ohio State and he 688 00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,360 Speaker 5: can step in, you know, right away make an impact. 689 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,960 Speaker 5: Day one, you know, and you see that with a 690 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,080 Speaker 5: lot of running backs, you know, especially the ones that 691 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 5: get drafted high like that. But for duce Vaughan, it's 692 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 5: gonna be how can he make an impact with only 693 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 5: maybe a handful of plays. 694 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 4: It's no pill battle, it really is. 695 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 3: And I like the way that Nick said it, like 696 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 3: temper expectations. That doesn't mean right off duce Vaughan by 697 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 3: any stretch of the imagination. I think that we've proven 698 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,240 Speaker 3: already by this point you should not ride off duce 699 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 3: vaugh because. 700 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 4: He's made it this far. 701 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 3: But also at least limit the expectations and we'll see 702 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 3: what happens. Whenever the preseason comes around. 703 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 6: I will say really quick, I think the running back group, 704 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 6: I think that is the most important, or I think 705 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 6: that's the group with the most spotlight in the preseason, 706 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 6: because that's that's the group that needs to somebody's gonna 707 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,960 Speaker 6: have to pop out or somebody's gonna get left out. 708 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 3: So from from the biggest spotlight during the preseason to 709 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 3: the one guy that's probably not going to play at 710 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: all in the preseason, Dak Prescott. You mentioned him and 711 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 3: how he's looked good throughout camp, but we got a 712 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 3: question from Peterson and San Diego and he basically says, 713 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 3: early in his career he was known as a poor 714 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,800 Speaker 3: practice player, but he was a gamer. He came back 715 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 3: in and he was able to put things together whenever 716 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 3: the lights came on. Now he looks like he's a 717 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,720 Speaker 3: great practice player, but he's lost some of these. 718 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 4: Big games lately. What is going on? Do you feel 719 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: like the script has flipped or you think Dak's. 720 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 3: Just a better practice player now and he's just come 721 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 3: up against some tough competition at times. 722 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 5: I mean, he's a better precice player now. I mean, 723 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 5: like we mentioned the ore day, I mean there were 724 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 5: definitely camp practice where you didn't know if it was 725 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 5: him or Jamil Showers from from week to week and 726 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen after coult Moore went down. But he's definitely 727 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 5: a better prexe player now. In terms of how that 728 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 5: equates to the regular season or even how he plays 729 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 5: in the playoffs, I think has nothing to do with that. 730 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 5: I think that stuff has a lot to do with 731 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 5: He's been the starting quarterback of the Dallas Cowboys since 732 00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 5: twenty sixteen. There's a lot of tape on him. I 733 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 5: mean there's I mean, everyone and knows what he likes 734 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 5: to do, what his strengths are, and every defensive coordinator 735 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 5: is going to be able to build off of that. 736 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 5: That has a lot more to do with it than 737 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 5: anything of well he's a better practice player now and 738 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 5: then whatever in the regular season. It just the stuff 739 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,080 Speaker 5: that he was doing in twenty sixteen. There's a lot 740 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 5: of stuff he had success with because nobody had ever 741 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 5: seen it, you know, especially from coming from the Cowboys. 742 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 5: You're expecting, like Romo at quarterback the way that they 743 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden, you got this guy 744 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 5: coming in Frossissippi State. He's running the ball like they 745 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 5: weren't used to seeing that. So that's the tough part 746 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 5: about the NFL. And obviously he's done a good enough 747 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: job that he's still a franchise quarterback playing at a 748 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 5: high level all these years later. 749 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, those are really good talking points. 750 00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 6: I think, you know, early on and not being a 751 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 6: good practice player, that just comes with entering the NFL 752 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 6: and getting used to the practice environment. But you know, 753 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 6: as the years have gone on, he's become a better player. 754 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 6: But like you said, there's more context for opponents. So 755 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 6: what was the last part of his question where he 756 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 6: was like, or is it just yeah? 757 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 3: Or is is it that he's come up against that 758 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 3: tough competition like John was saying in playoff time, and 759 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: that's when things go wrong for Dat. 760 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 5: Who looks good against that ford Anders defense in the playffs. 761 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 6: I was about to say, is that forty nine Ers 762 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 6: team better than that Packers team that he faces rookie year? 763 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 7: I think so without a doubt. Wow, I think they're 764 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 7: better than that Falcons team that that beat that Green 765 00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 7: Bay team. 766 00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 4: You know, so Nick gets say it with your chest Friday, Isaiah. 767 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 4: He understands it like. 768 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 7: A ratter than the twenty sixteen Packers. 769 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 6: Like it. 770 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 4: What do you think. 771 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 8: Practice is practice? I mean you're supposed to make mistakes 772 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 8: in practice. That's so that you don't make mistakes. 773 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 4: In the game. Kind of playing off of that. And 774 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: this is a good question for you to answer. 775 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: George from the seven h three says, do you think 776 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: the Cowboys not practicing with another team this year? I mean, 777 00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 3: of course, no joint practices, no Chargers, Broncos or Rams 778 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: like we've seen the last two years. 779 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 4: Uh, will that make them sloppy? And they're tackling and 780 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 4: their aggressiveness when trying to finish plays. 781 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 8: No, because the rules are the same in those joint practices. 782 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 8: I mean the same way that we're just talking about 783 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 8: thudding up. It's supposed to be thudding up whenever you 784 00:31:54,320 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 8: have those joint practices, Well, how fights happened. That's how 785 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 8: fights happened. Whenever it is not thutting up, you know, 786 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 8: you go to the ground. I remember back camp years 787 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 8: ago when we were practicing against Denver. They weren't letting up. 788 00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 8: They were tackling, tackling Felix Jones. They were tackling to 789 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 8: shar a choice, and because of that, there were some 790 00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,840 Speaker 8: fights that broke out, in some massive fights, by the way. 791 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 8: But I do think that get I get his question 792 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,680 Speaker 8: in the sense of you like the competitiveness whenever you 793 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 8: have those joint practices, but when you're focusing on trying 794 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 8: to on board a new system, I get not wanting 795 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 8: to practice against other teams as well, because that could 796 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 8: become a distraction in the sense guys can get so 797 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 8: routed up in the actual competitive side of it that 798 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 8: they forget that, Hey, you're supposed to be learning how 799 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,080 Speaker 8: to do things the right way. So when he's trying 800 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:41,040 Speaker 8: to coach mccarthurhin I say he he's trying to instill 801 00:32:41,560 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 8: a form of consistency right now, and that's more important 802 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 8: than the competitiveness because he's not concerned about the competitiveness. 803 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,440 Speaker 8: He knows this team is gonna be well, you just 804 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 8: saw it, right, everybody's talking about it, Dad and Treymon. 805 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 8: That competitiveness is there, that's no question mark, right. That's 806 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 8: one of the reasons why you go practice other teams. 807 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 8: He wants to make sure that everybody knows what the 808 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,200 Speaker 8: heck they're doing. They could do it play after play 809 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 8: after play. That's more important. You'll see a show up 810 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 8: next week. That is there going to be their test run. 811 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,800 Speaker 8: That's their joint practice is these three preseason games. 812 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 5: When he said the thing about the fighting, all I 813 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 5: thought it was that practice a couple of days ago 814 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 5: where Parsons hit Dak in the legs, I'm like, if 815 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 5: that's a different team they're fighting, if that's like Aaron 816 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 5: Donald running into Dack's legs, or if that's Mike running 817 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 5: in the Stafford's legs, those. 818 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 4: Immediately immediately practice is over. Yeah, that would be that 819 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 4: would be rough. 820 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:26,600 Speaker 3: I mean, we saw it out here a couple of 821 00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 3: years ago, Aaron Donald and Connor Williams going after it. 822 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 4: And if something like that just barely it's it's a. 823 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 8: Perfect example, you guys, of what I was just just 824 00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 8: saying in regards to the smack talking. It's okay when 825 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 8: your teammates do it right. It's okay when Michael Parsons 826 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 8: that you know, accidentally falls by the by the legs 827 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 8: of Dak. You heard Dak what he said. He said, 828 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 8: I guess I gotta keep my feet light. That's a 829 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 8: part of the game. I gotta be able to step 830 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 8: up in the pocket move around. But if another team 831 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 8: would have done that, it would have been freaking off 832 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,120 Speaker 8: the top rope every single time by everybody on that team. 833 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 8: So it's okay for your guy to do it because 834 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 8: it's competitive, But when another guy's doing it, now, you're 835 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 8: taking a shot of my team, and I'm. 836 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 4: Not going to allow that. 837 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 8: That's what it's all about. It's a brotherhood, man, So 838 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 8: you can't we can't pick and people can't pick and 839 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 8: choose and say, well, that's okay, but that's not nah. 840 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,760 Speaker 4: This is football. You protect your brothers. 841 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it is a brotherhood out there, and you 842 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 3: can see that that competition growing and I love it. 843 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:14,800 Speaker 2: I really do. 844 00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 3: This has been at least in terms of the competition 845 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:19,800 Speaker 3: and the intensity. I think this is the most intense 846 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:21,920 Speaker 3: camp that I've been to. Now my list isn't as 847 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 3: long as others. I'm only I'm only a number four, 848 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 3: But I just really think there's an intentionality to I 849 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:29,840 Speaker 3: don't even know if that's a word to. 850 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 5: What is now. 851 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,720 Speaker 4: There's an intentionality. 852 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 3: There's an intention with with what they're doing on the 853 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: practice field, and you can see it even from the outside. 854 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 3: We'll tell you if intentionality is a word when we 855 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,520 Speaker 3: come back with more talking cowboys, and we'll continue to 856 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 3: ask you or answer your questions. 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It's a word. I believe you. 917 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I got it. It's the quality of mental 918 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:32,280 Speaker 5: states that consists in they're being directed towards some objects 919 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 5: or a state of affairs, or the defensive line. That 920 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:37,080 Speaker 5: was the other definitition. 921 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,200 Speaker 2: That's nice, all right, there you go. 922 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 5: Oh and it's peaking in twenty nineteen is when it peaked. 923 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:43,839 Speaker 4: Oh, very good. 924 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 5: It's not used it all in the eighteen hundred. 925 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll we'll have to figure out a way intentionality. Yep, 926 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 4: there you go. 927 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 3: Learn something new every day, all right. Continuing to send 928 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:56,759 Speaker 3: us questions on this text line. We're trying it out 929 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 3: for the first time today. Really like it because this 930 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:01,520 Speaker 3: is just another way for cowboys to interact with us 931 00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:03,480 Speaker 3: on the show. You can save the number eight one 932 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 3: seven two nine zero three two nine to eight. And 933 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 3: we got a question from Michael O in Boston. He said, 934 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 3: love the cast. You guys have a symbol for talking cowboys. 935 00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:16,040 Speaker 3: Salute you, my friend. Uh, my question is how worried 936 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,200 Speaker 3: are you about Luke's Schoomaker's health, saying that he's had 937 00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,600 Speaker 3: this injury since college and it hasn't gotten any better. 938 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 4: It's a second round pick on an injured tight end. 939 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,279 Speaker 3: Is there any concern level of concern for you guys 940 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 3: and not seeing Luke schoomakered out on the field. 941 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, there's concern just because there's only so much you 942 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,720 Speaker 5: can do staying on the sideline, So that part is concerning, 943 00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 5: and it is planner fasci itis and that that can 944 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 5: be one of those things that takes a while to 945 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 5: get past it and you never really know exactly when 946 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,359 Speaker 5: it's gonna happen. So yeah, there's concern just because he's 947 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 5: a rookie. And then the fact that you don't have 948 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 5: Dalton Schultz. There's so many opportunities for a young guy 949 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,719 Speaker 5: to get these opportunities. So because of that, yeah, but 950 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,640 Speaker 5: not in terms of his whole entire career or anything 951 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 5: like that, but in terms of making the impact right away. Yeah, 952 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 5: there's part of me that thinks a little bit like 953 00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 5: Jalen Tolbert last year where didn't get that, you know, 954 00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:00,759 Speaker 5: kind of hit the ground running because injury set back 955 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,839 Speaker 5: and that. So yeah, for sure, and they and they need, 956 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 5: they need scoo maker, they need as much help they 957 00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 5: can get it to tight end spot because I don't 958 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,480 Speaker 5: think it's gonna be just one guy like it was, 959 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,319 Speaker 5: you know, Dalton Schultz getting the bulk of those targets as. 960 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,480 Speaker 6: A rookie in that especially in that tight end room 961 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 6: that's so young, and I feel like everyone's really learning 962 00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 6: and bouncing off each other. 963 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 7: Him getting on the field is really important right now. 964 00:39:18,719 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 6: But I will say the mental reps that he is 965 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,520 Speaker 6: taking everyone around him is saying he's doing as much 966 00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 6: as he can with that. Whether it's tight end coach, 967 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 6: Linda Wells, Jake Ferguson, all of those guys are like, yeah, 968 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,960 Speaker 6: he's buying in and doing what he needs to do. 969 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,080 Speaker 6: But it's just you know, getting on the field. It's 970 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,360 Speaker 6: it's really important. But planner fasciitis, my mom had it. 971 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,080 Speaker 6: Shout out to my mom out there. She had it 972 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 6: like two or three years ago, and that stuff is 973 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,960 Speaker 6: the most stubborn injury you could possibly have, because one 974 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 6: day you could be completely fine, you could run a marathon, 975 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:45,800 Speaker 6: and the next day it feels like Michael Scott on 976 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:49,279 Speaker 6: the George Foreman grill on that office episode, it's it's 977 00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 6: so tough, and you know, I understand the pain that 978 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:54,919 Speaker 6: Luke is going through specifically, and it kind of throws 979 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,160 Speaker 6: off the whole the whole training regimen because the training 980 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:58,759 Speaker 6: staff doesn't know what he's gonna feel on a day 981 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 6: to day basis. So I would like to see him 982 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 6: get out there for a preseason game, but I don't 983 00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,320 Speaker 6: feel like you really need to do it until the 984 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 6: third game if you really want him on the field 985 00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 6: to start the season. 986 00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 4: I like everything that these guys is it. 987 00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 8: I think, I mean, everybody knows how important it is, 988 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 8: especially at that position group, in the role that they 989 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:14,759 Speaker 8: are expecting. 990 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 4: Him to fulfill. 991 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 8: He's needed, he's needed, his services are needed, and he 992 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 8: needs these reps. There's no replacing these reps, especially at 993 00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 8: the tight end position, where you not only have a 994 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,920 Speaker 8: responsibility to be able to run your routes, precisely, catch 995 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:27,759 Speaker 8: the ball, make plays there, but you also have to 996 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,120 Speaker 8: be able to block like you're an extension of the 997 00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 8: office line. 998 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,479 Speaker 4: These reps. He won't get these reps back. The sooner 999 00:40:33,560 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 4: he can touch the field, the better. 1000 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:37,280 Speaker 5: The other Michigan guy though, in that room, Sean mccun 1001 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 5: has been getting a lot of praise is the last 1002 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,799 Speaker 5: few days from Mike McCarthy Lunda Wells yesterday tight ends 1003 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,279 Speaker 5: coach talking to about you know, just how much he's 1004 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 5: really been at the right place, right time, doing everything 1005 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 5: the right way, and as long as schoon Maker isn't 1006 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 5: in the mix, that's just gonna be more reps for mcchwn. 1007 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:53,040 Speaker 7: That surprises me too. 1008 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 6: I did not expect to put Sean McEwan on an 1009 00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:57,840 Speaker 6: article yesterday talking about that's in stock risers. 1010 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 7: Yeah, he's done great, he's done great. 1011 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 5: This I would say, yeah, Sean mcchown. And then when 1012 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,480 Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy was talking the other day about like what 1013 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 5: running back of the backups, and he said Rico Daubtle 1014 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,080 Speaker 5: and that was before Yeah, like we got to see 1015 00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 5: him out there, like you said yesterday, he kind of 1016 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,520 Speaker 5: stood out and stuff like that. So yeah, it is 1017 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 5: always interesting when you when you just ask a coach 1018 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,040 Speaker 5: or front office like, hey, just give me like one 1019 00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:17,640 Speaker 5: guy that like you think has really stood out, and 1020 00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 5: nine times out of ten it's somebody You're like, Okay, damn, 1021 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:21,440 Speaker 5: I need to watch that guy a little bit more. 1022 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 4: You know, what about uh what about nay Sean Wright? 1023 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 3: The DC fan from Long Beach, California, says, from your 1024 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: guy's perspective of nay Sean right at practice, how is 1025 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 3: he executing? And does he make the roster? And if so, 1026 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,320 Speaker 3: what's roster spot? And where on the roster does he landon? 1027 00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,759 Speaker 8: Wright is Balin? Yeah, I don't know what everybody else 1028 00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:41,960 Speaker 8: is talking about. Naeon Ross Balding. I don't think you 1029 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 8: have any worries about him making his roster. The things 1030 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 8: he's able to do other guys can't do. This dude 1031 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,920 Speaker 8: is long, he's he's awsome from street Fighter, Like I 1032 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 8: always say, he's finally stepping into the physical aspect that 1033 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,400 Speaker 8: he needed to add to his game. That was one 1034 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,880 Speaker 8: of the question marks he really really with him in mcuama, 1035 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 8: right but Mcama's not out there right now. 1036 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,279 Speaker 4: But Nashan has added that physical. 1037 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 8: Element and he he's guarding the best guys and when 1038 00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:03,879 Speaker 8: you every time you look up, he's guarding the best 1039 00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 8: guys on defense. Any whether it's a walkthrough rep or 1040 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,560 Speaker 8: whether it's a full speed rep. He is going to 1041 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 8: be a great, great asset to this team. He started 1042 00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 8: doing so towards the end of last year, and you're 1043 00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:14,600 Speaker 8: gonna start seeing a lot more this year, for sure. 1044 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:15,799 Speaker 4: I think they're gonna pin more on him. 1045 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,200 Speaker 3: I think he's had some ups and downs. I think 1046 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 3: there's been there's been times where he's made great plays, 1047 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 3: no doubt about it. He had the big interception early 1048 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 3: in camp on the deep ball down the left sideline, 1049 00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:28,320 Speaker 3: made the catch up against Jalen Tolbert and that was fantastic. 1050 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 3: And he's made other plays like that too, pass breakups. 1051 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,319 Speaker 3: He's been in the right spot at the right time. 1052 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,600 Speaker 3: But then there are other instances where you'll look and 1053 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,360 Speaker 3: there's just separation there and so you. 1054 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:38,240 Speaker 4: Can see the growth. 1055 00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 3: You can see the improvement from Naseean right, and that's 1056 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,160 Speaker 3: something that I think Cowboys fans should be excited about 1057 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,200 Speaker 3: because that's what you want to see from a guy 1058 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:47,759 Speaker 3: like that that they went and they took. They took 1059 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: a chance on him with that ninety ninth pick a 1060 00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,600 Speaker 3: couple of years ago, and he's consistently gotten better and 1061 00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,880 Speaker 3: that's what you've seen on the practice field this year. 1062 00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,320 Speaker 3: I think while there is some ups and downs, and 1063 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 3: there is there's always going to be with a young cornerback, 1064 00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 3: especially whenever he hasn't had starter reps. 1065 00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 4: Consistently. He's gonna need to continue to see that yet. 1066 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 8: And the thing is like, there are very few corners 1067 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 8: in this league that can guard every style of receiver, sure, 1068 00:43:11,880 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 8: and the ones that do, they get paid. I was 1069 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 8: on the flight with Revis not too long ago, and 1070 00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 8: you know, you see each other, you like, hey, I 1071 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:23,680 Speaker 8: recognize you, and we talked it up for a little bit. 1072 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:26,359 Speaker 8: And we've had some battles as well. But there's only 1073 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 8: a handful of those guys. The other guys like, there's 1074 00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 8: a style of receiver that they do well with, and 1075 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 8: there's a style of receiver they don't do well with. 1076 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 8: So nay Sean is not going to do well with 1077 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,120 Speaker 8: the smaller, quicker dudes. 1078 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 4: That's not his thing. He's out there for the big boys. 1079 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:38,840 Speaker 4: You know. 1080 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 8: When the big boys step out there and you have 1081 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 8: a pretty good size or even a tight end, I 1082 00:43:42,239 --> 00:43:42,880 Speaker 8: can put hands on. 1083 00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 4: You, I can bless you, I can bless you want 1084 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:45,040 Speaker 4: to cross this line of. 1085 00:43:45,000 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 8: Scrimmage, you know. But then you got the smaller guys 1086 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,239 Speaker 8: like the dran Blans and the Jay Louis of the world. 1087 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,479 Speaker 4: Those are the feisty guys. 1088 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:52,960 Speaker 2: They're going to stay in the hip pockets of the 1089 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:53,600 Speaker 2: little quick guy. 1090 00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 8: So when you're talking about you know, we talk about 1091 00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 8: ups and downs of of of defensive backs or any player, 1092 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:02,880 Speaker 8: there's skill sets, preferences in terms of where they're going 1093 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,920 Speaker 8: to be more successful than others. Right, he's not a 1094 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,880 Speaker 8: holistic all around corner back and they're not going to 1095 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 8: put him in those situations to fail. 1096 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 7: Yeah, and to piggyback off that Naseean Wright is six 1097 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:12,640 Speaker 7: foot four. 1098 00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,680 Speaker 6: That is that's the sacrifice you take with the length 1099 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 6: that he has is he's probably going to be a 1100 00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 6: step off at times, and you know, but that's the 1101 00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 6: sacrifice you take. You look at his wingspan, you look 1102 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 6: at his legs and how much ground he can cover 1103 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 6: just with his strides, and that's a sacrifice you get 1104 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 6: with him. And I think he's used his length to 1105 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:32,839 Speaker 6: his maxibility and camp so far. I think that's why 1106 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 6: he's having such a good camp. We looked at some 1107 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 6: of the pass breakups that he has been in on 1108 00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 6: and it's like, Wow, how did he get there? It's 1109 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,200 Speaker 6: because he's got a lasta girl arms over exactly. But 1110 00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 6: being a step slow, he's not gonna cot He's not 1111 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 6: gonna cover those speed guys. You know, Brandon Cooks, let's 1112 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,920 Speaker 6: not light him up on him, but hey, Jalen Tolbert 1113 00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:52,440 Speaker 6: or you know, whenever the season comes around, throw me 1114 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 6: a receiver in the NFC East. 1115 00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 4: I'm I'm they're all kind of fast. Yeah, I know, 1116 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:56,600 Speaker 4: I was sitting here saking. 1117 00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 6: I was like, not Terry McLaurin, but yeah, but there's 1118 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,440 Speaker 6: guys that you could put Naean right against and he 1119 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 6: will have a great day. 1120 00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,120 Speaker 7: There's guys you can put him against. He will have 1121 00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:08,480 Speaker 7: a terrible day. It's just no in your personality. 1122 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 4: Does that tell you though? 1123 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 3: Like the limitations of Nashon right, the fact that you 1124 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:13,719 Speaker 3: can go down the list of these guys that are 1125 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:17,200 Speaker 3: that are impact receivers at for sure in the division. 1126 00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 3: I mean, is there a spot for him to come 1127 00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,719 Speaker 3: in and be like, all right, we have to have 1128 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 3: him on the fifty three man, because I mean, you. 1129 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:26,200 Speaker 4: Gotta you gotta give and take right. 1130 00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 5: And then also, you know, you rip off all those 1131 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 5: names you talk about like Devonde Smith and A. J. Brown, 1132 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,480 Speaker 5: Harry McLaurin are like those are some of the best 1133 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 5: receivers in the entire league. It's gonna happen, right, and 1134 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 5: let's be honest here, Like, it's not like they're just 1135 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,400 Speaker 5: lining up like two receivers. There's three four receivers that 1136 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,440 Speaker 5: are out there. There's gonna be I'll just say it's 1137 00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,880 Speaker 5: about nash On right. Yes, there have been some lows, 1138 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 5: but I think his highs are high enough that he 1139 00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 5: reminds me of the type of guy that if you 1140 00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 5: were to let him go, I could so see him 1141 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 5: thriving on another team. And You're sitting there and being like, oh, man, 1142 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,200 Speaker 5: I remember when he was with a Cowboys. Man, why 1143 00:45:58,239 --> 00:45:59,879 Speaker 5: they let him go? I just I don't, I don't. 1144 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 4: And other thing, John is like there's a thing called 1145 00:46:02,320 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 4: zone familiar with that I've heard about it. And the 1146 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,000 Speaker 4: longer you are. 1147 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:12,120 Speaker 8: In zone, right, the taller defensive backs you have, the 1148 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 8: smaller those gaps are in terms of possible opportunities for 1149 00:46:15,840 --> 00:46:17,320 Speaker 8: teams to be able to drop the ball in buckets. 1150 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,480 Speaker 8: So this we're not talking about manna man coverage all 1151 00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,239 Speaker 8: the time. We're talking about him sitting in his own 1152 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:23,239 Speaker 8: with safety help and him being able to get it 1153 00:46:23,480 --> 00:46:25,160 Speaker 8: put his arms up there. You have Naseean right, and 1154 00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,080 Speaker 8: Isral mccuomo on the same side or even curse on 1155 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:27,880 Speaker 8: the same side. 1156 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of holes for that ball to final. 1157 00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 8: There's a lot of length up there, and they were 1158 00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,160 Speaker 8: gonna get their hands on balls that you normally most 1159 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 8: guys wouldn't. 1160 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's that's where it gets kind of kind 1161 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:40,960 Speaker 3: of tough for me to I do like Nishan right, 1162 00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,200 Speaker 3: don't get me wrong, but you're going. But if you're going, 1163 00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 3: if you're going with with aj Brown and you're talking 1164 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 3: about DeVante Smith and covering these better receivers in the NFL, 1165 00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,960 Speaker 3: at times, you're gonna have to You're gonna have to 1166 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 3: line up against those guys. And I don't think you're 1167 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 3: gonna look at Trayvon Diggs and Stefan Gilmour and say, 1168 00:46:58,680 --> 00:46:59,879 Speaker 3: oh man, you guys get a pass. 1169 00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,680 Speaker 4: Those are some of the better receivers in the NFL. 1170 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,439 Speaker 2: You're paying those guys have not come off the field 1171 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:04,240 Speaker 2: too correct. 1172 00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,759 Speaker 3: But but nay Sean right, in order to be in 1173 00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:09,279 Speaker 3: the conversation as a starting cornerback, those are the guys 1174 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 3: you got to be up there with. 1175 00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 4: So he's not starting, let's let's lay that out. 1176 00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 3: Okay, Then that's fine. That's that's that's what I'm saying 1177 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,319 Speaker 3: is I don't think he's a starter. 1178 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:20,400 Speaker 4: No, I want him on the Yeah and Gilmore and 1179 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,160 Speaker 4: those are your starters. Good feeling and just making sure what. 1180 00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 6: I would feel comfortable with him sliding in if Dick 1181 00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:27,319 Speaker 6: or Gilmore got. 1182 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,839 Speaker 4: Hurt that's okay. Yeah with that too. And I think 1183 00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:32,440 Speaker 4: he has I think he's had a great camp on that. 1184 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,680 Speaker 3: Like I said, he's grown along the way, and that's 1185 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 3: something I think is a positive for Cowboys fans. 1186 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,440 Speaker 5: You certainly feel better about those guys that they have 1187 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 5: backing up at corner than you do. As we talked 1188 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 5: about the other day about the backup on the offensive line. No, no, yeah, 1189 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 5: I'd love to have a right equivalent egg yeah. 1190 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 4: Yeah. And it takes it takes me back to the 1191 00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,839 Speaker 4: Tennessee game. To the Tennessee game. 1192 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 3: Whenever some of those guys went down, you needed guys 1193 00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 3: to step up, and Naean Wright was one of them. 1194 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,719 Speaker 3: He had an interception in that game, one of which 1195 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 3: that was in zone. And here's this closing ability and 1196 00:48:01,080 --> 00:48:01,960 Speaker 3: it's linked to get there. 1197 00:48:02,080 --> 00:48:02,560 Speaker 4: Let's solve this. 1198 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:07,120 Speaker 8: This lined up khy against Nash right next time, man 1199 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 8: a man baby one on ones. 1200 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,359 Speaker 3: And that's gonna do it for us here on Talking Cowboys. 1201 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:14,560 Speaker 3: Say it with your Chest Friday. 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