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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Steelers Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Quest Shuler and Matt Williamson with you here

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Speaker 2: for the next two hours on a Monday, as it

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Speaker 2: is February, it is Super Bowl week. Uh, Senior Senior

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Speaker 2: Bowls in the books, Combine staring us. Uh.

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Speaker 3: Oh, things started happening pretty quick down the barrel here

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Speaker 3: come quick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yep are our fearless leader. Brian Lamartine was in

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Speaker 2: here talking combine schedule with us just before we got started.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I get you up on that.

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Speaker 2: So things are happening, the moving, the moving, the shaking,

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Speaker 2: and is always Matt, the news of the day, News

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Speaker 2: the day, uh Friday evening. Shortly after you and I

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Speaker 2: got off air, or maybe like in the final two

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Speaker 2: or three minutes of the show, the Steelers made it

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Speaker 2: a fit. What we at all, what all the reports

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Speaker 2: had indicated, is now official. The Steelers have named Patrick

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Speaker 2: Graham as the team's defensive coordinator. On this Mike McCarthy's staff.

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Speaker 2: Patrick gram spent the last four years with Vegas as

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Speaker 2: the Raiders defensive coordinator. That was his seventeenth year coaching

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Speaker 2: in the NFL, so this will be his eighteenth season

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Speaker 2: coming up. He's had a variety of different roles with

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Speaker 2: the Patriots, the Giants, the Packers, the Dolphins, and, like

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Speaker 2: I mentioned, most recently, the Raiders. He has been a

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator in the NFL for each of the last

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Speaker 2: seven seasons. Matt, this is an experienced higher here for

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy to lead his defense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I like it a lot and I've done a

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Speaker 3: lot more homework on it. So this past year with

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, they played a ton of zone I mean,

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Speaker 3: because they didn't have any man corners, but they still

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Speaker 3: were like one of the absolute best team in the league,

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Speaker 3: not allowing explosives. I know, we'll talk about explosives here

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Speaker 3: in a bit, but it makes the world go round

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Speaker 3: in the NFL nowadays. They were really good against the run.

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Speaker 3: And I'll argue Max Crosby's maybe one of maybe two

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Speaker 3: or three or one players that would start for the Steelers,

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Speaker 3: who aren't the most talented defensive league, but it is

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Speaker 3: a much more talented one than the Raiders. Sure, and

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Speaker 3: he has a long history of taking Frankly bad football

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Speaker 3: players and making you a meal that you can eat

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Speaker 3: out of it, you know, I mean the ingredients conversation

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Speaker 3: we have here. The ingredients he's been given are poor,

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Speaker 3: and we've mentioned that in the past. But he's also

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Speaker 3: been a part of some of the most disastrous coaching

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Speaker 3: head coaching situations in the league too, and is put

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Speaker 3: together pretty impressive performance, you know, again without a lot

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Speaker 3: of things working against him.

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Speaker 2: I'll say that, I think that's a very good way

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Speaker 2: to put it. There's some there's some parallels for me

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Speaker 2: of I don't know, maybe a guy like Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 2: who throughout his career was in so many unstable situations

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Speaker 2: you could see what he was capable of. Not future

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Speaker 2: Hall of Fame all time great, but he was a

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Speaker 2: legit starting franchise quarterback in this league. Get me out

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Speaker 2: of the mess. Sam Darnold one of those one of

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Speaker 2: those type of guys who comes from a situation where

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Speaker 2: the coaching staffs are always getting fired, they have a

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Speaker 2: different offensive coordinator every year, a lot of turmoil, and

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Speaker 2: they're still able to find some ways to have some success,

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Speaker 2: some stability and then all of a sudden, you put

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Speaker 2: them in a stable situation and they can really take off.

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Speaker 2: There's some kind of when you look at the areas

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Speaker 2: that Patrick Graham has been in the past, what he's

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Speaker 2: been able to do with little and with again with

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Speaker 2: coaching staffs that are being upheaved, with head coaches that

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Speaker 2: are being hired and fired. I think some stability is

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think that's very possible, assuming that the now

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Speaker 3: stability starts now in Pittsburgh. He's not coming to a

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Speaker 3: stable environment. He's coming to what probably will be history shows,

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Speaker 3: to say the least. Speaking of which, and we'll probably

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Speaker 3: even bring this up, we know that now there's ten

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Speaker 3: coaching positions that were opened and now filled. Basically they

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Speaker 3: were twenty one offensive coordinators changed this year. Wow.

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Speaker 2: One, I mean that's well over half.

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Speaker 3: The league, just talking about instability, and one of which

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Speaker 3: but this will be tenth of eleventh. Jalen Hurt's last

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Speaker 3: eleven seasons going back to Bama. This will be his

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Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: It's like.

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Speaker 2: Nine yea in his ten years in the league.

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Speaker 3: It's insane, right, And how do you expect these guys

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Speaker 3: is he's a Bellichick coaching tree. And I mentioned this

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Speaker 3: gonna say we want to be multiple, We're gonna be multiple,

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Speaker 3: We're gonna change all the time, and then you get

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Speaker 3: the week five or six and they're doing what they do,

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Speaker 3: you know, because it's not as easy as you think.

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Speaker 3: But Graham, that's kind of his backbone is he's a chameleon,

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Speaker 3: depending on what ingredients you give him, depending who the

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Speaker 3: upcoming opponent is. This is gonna be a heavy man week,

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be a heavy blitz week. This is

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Speaker 3: gonna be heavy zone week. We'll have any man corners,

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Speaker 3: so we got to play zone. What can we do

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Speaker 3: to at least survive without being able to the whole

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Speaker 3: been really good at it.

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Speaker 2: He sure has. Yeah, Now you give him some more stability,

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Speaker 2: Hopefully you give him some better ingredients to work with

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Speaker 2: in that kitchen, in that pantry, and hopefully he's gonna

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Speaker 2: be leading a rejuvenated, revamped Steelers defense here in twenty

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Speaker 3: So I think he gives them a much better chance

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, that way, I think that's a good way

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Speaker 2: to put it, Matt. A couple other things that are

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Speaker 2: by the Steelers. There's also obviously a lot of other

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Speaker 2: reports around Steelers centering in on other coaching staff targets.

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Speaker 2: Credible reports. One of those Tom Pellisero, of course, of

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Speaker 2: the NFL Network, reporting that the Steelers are zeroing in

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Speaker 2: on Danny Krossman as their next special teams coordinator, fifty

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Speaker 2: nine years old. Little Wikipedia scouting on him, Matt. He

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Speaker 2: a pretty extensive background that includes some time in college.

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Speaker 2: He was linebackers coach and special teams coordinator at Michigan State,

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Speaker 2: same role at Georgia Tech. He's a pit grad. Another another, another,

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Speaker 2: another one of you pit guys populate, populate in the

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Speaker 2: coaching staff here. You know, Uh, Terrell Austin on his

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Speaker 2: with another pitman. He was a second team All Big

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Speaker 2: East cornerback at Pitt Back in the eighties. Also played

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Speaker 2: here when he was in college, I'm sure he did so.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Danny Crossman in line again. All still just

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Speaker 2: reports as of now, but credible ones to be the

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Speaker 2: next special teams coordinator for the Steelers.

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Speaker 3: I don't have anything to add yet in terms.

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Speaker 2: Here what you just said Wikipedia scouting.

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Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, and that's all fine. I'd have to even

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Speaker 3: be too busy this morning to even see how good

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Speaker 3: Miami special teams were last year compared to the rest

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Speaker 3: But that's a it's kind of a tight knit special

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Speaker 3: you know, Danny Smith was great at what he did here.

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Speaker 3: He's gonna have big shoes to fill. So the other

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Speaker 3: thing is people we've talked about so the years, but Tomlin,

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Speaker 3: more than most coaches, dedicated more resources to special teams

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Speaker 2: Did you know you're a lotted so much time?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, practice time, roster spots two days and so that's

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Speaker 3: something I hadn't thought about yet because it's been so

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Speaker 3: much change with the coaching staff. Well, this coaching staff

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Speaker 3: see it the same way. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: That's one of those uh not everybody has created along

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Speaker 2: time frame every day of practice of how much you

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Speaker 2: spend on special teams. That'll be something that will discuss

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Speaker 3: It'll be pretty obvious.

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Speaker 2: A couple more Matt Scott told the who we mentioned Friday.

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Speaker 2: According to Pallisero in the NFL Network. He is in

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh today Monday, interviewing for the offensive coordinator job. Just

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Speaker 2: those younger up and coming, ascending minds that we've talked about.

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Speaker 2: You like to have both ends of the spectrum on

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Speaker 2: He also played for Mike McCarthy and Green Bay and

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Speaker 2: And he was actually one of the offensive coordinators at

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say he was really involved with the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Coming from the Saints. Yep, he would be younger than

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers if that would be a you know, if

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Speaker 3: they were to read like four or five years something

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Speaker 3: like that. Was not a particularly good quarterback, but he's

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Speaker 3: that typical mold where the only reason he even got

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Speaker 3: the league was because he's good from the head up.

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Speaker 3: I mean great from the head up. He just doesn't

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Speaker 3: it's not gifted enough to do it. But he worked

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Speaker 3: with Tyler Schuck last year at Saints' offense got good

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Speaker 2: In the season. They were, yeah, one of the most

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they traded Shaheed and you know, they had

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Speaker 3: their own issues and what's his face there? They're the

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Speaker 3: head coach of the Saints is also a really good

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Speaker 3: offense in mine, Kellen Moore. Yeah, and I think Moore

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Speaker 3: worked with McCarthy too, he did. Okay, I mean there's

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Speaker 3: a lot of overlap here.

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of overlap. And as you mentioned, all

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Speaker 2: these like six degrees of separation for all these guys

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Speaker 2: and who played for who and who coached with who, and.

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Speaker 3: In this group, it's like one degree of separation. They're

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Speaker 3: not branching too far out right.

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Speaker 2: And last, but certainly not least according to Jerry Dulac,

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy will be adding former pit and IUP coordinator

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Speaker 2: Frank Signetti Junior. Oh yeah, yeah, Kurt's brother to the

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Speaker 2: thank you for taking the time. A lot has happened

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Speaker 2: You actually had the opportunity last week to do a

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Speaker 2: What were your initial impressions of the hire of your

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Speaker 4: Well, first of all, you know, there's a lot there.

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Speaker 4: And I think that's a really intriguing accommodation. Rob.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, And there are some good candidates out there who

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Speaker 4: and I think you're right. And Art Rudy said that,

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Speaker 4: I think there's a different perception about the students and

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Speaker 4: There.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, the biggest piece of this equation for this offseason

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Speaker 2: I think Matt and I have kind of gone back

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Speaker 4: Well, i'll tell you what. Mike McCarthy was asked that

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Speaker 4: He could say, well, we're evaluating all of our options

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Speaker 3: And you know, yeah, he could have been vague about it,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I want him back. And there were times I

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Speaker 4: You know, it's like what Matt just talked about a

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Speaker 4: in pre agency. I don't know if that person exists

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Speaker 4: by a trade, and I don't think that person exists

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Speaker 4: where you're gonna be able to get him in the draft.

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Speaker 4: So for all those reasons, including again at what I

436
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Speaker 4: said at the head, which is I still think there's

437
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Speaker 4: a lot left with Aaron Rodgers' arm talent, I think

438
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Speaker 4: bringing him back sounds like a good idea to me.

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Speaker 3: So, Rob, I know you didn't talk to coach McCarthy

440
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Speaker 3: for you know, a super long time, but you were

441
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Speaker 3: around him and you sat down with him, and he

442
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Speaker 3: is a reputation of being extremely detail oriented, especially with

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Speaker 3: offensive scheming and even more so with quarterbacking. Is that

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Speaker 3: an impression you got from him too? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I got the you know, I would say this more

446
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Speaker 4: than detail oriented. Yes, I mean I think those things

447
00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 4: come through. Like you know, when you listen to him,

448
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Speaker 4: I was impressed by his energy level, just being like,

449
00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:16,960
Speaker 4: let's go, man. Like you could tell he he's ready

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Speaker 4: to get to work. Man. I mean, he is eager

451
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Speaker 4: and fired up and ready to roll. And I do think,

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Speaker 4: you know, talking about what he did in his time

453
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Speaker 4: off scouting players around the league, you know, talking about

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Speaker 4: the detail of what he's looking for in a staff,

455
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Speaker 4: it's not a I mean, I'm sure there's some feel

456
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Speaker 4: and some other things, but hey, let's bring an experts

457
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Speaker 4: and let's bring an energy. So that's a detail that

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Speaker 4: I've never really heard it described that way. And when

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Speaker 4: he's talking about, you know, the use of I think

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Speaker 4: he talked about it in an interview he had with

461
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Speaker 4: Bob Poppiany about you know, using analytics and things like that,

462
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Speaker 4: and talking about being on the front front end of trends.

463
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Speaker 4: As I mentioned a little while ago. I think all

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Speaker 4: those things are really positive. And you know, look, you

465
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Speaker 4: see him and he's from Pittsburgh, and he gets emotional,

466
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Speaker 4: and it's it's easy to think, guys in a bunky

467
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Speaker 4: of the old coach. No, that's not you know, you know,

468
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Speaker 4: seems like a super nice guy. But that's not what

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Speaker 4: you're getting. You're not getting a guy that's just gonna

470
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Speaker 4: be like, you know, laughing and smiling and you know,

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Speaker 4: clapping people on the back and letting other people know

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Speaker 4: he's he's gonna be in it. That's a sense I

473
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Speaker 4: certainly got. He's going to be in it with both

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Speaker 4: hands and both feet and ready.

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Speaker 2: To go rob king with us here on the drive.

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Speaker 2: He's always ready to go Kinger. I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: one of the things that excites me most. And listen,

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Speaker 2: there are plenty of our listeners, plenty amongs Steeler Nation

479
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Speaker 2: that aren't gung ho, aren't you know over the fence

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Speaker 2: about the Mike McCarthy higher. They wanted to go that younger,

481
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Speaker 2: you know, more ascending kind of prototype that we've seen

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Speaker 2: the organization go with in the past. But even if

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Speaker 2: you're someone who doesn't love it, even if you're lukewarm

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Speaker 2: on it, whatever the case may be, I think you

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Speaker 2: have to be excited about what we're going to see

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Speaker 2: from this Steeler offense there, and I think rightfully so.

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Speaker 2: Over the last handful of years, there's been some some

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Speaker 2: criticism that you know, too often the Steelers are trying

489
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Speaker 2: to win games fourteen to ten, and that's just a

490
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Speaker 2: very hard recipe. You have to have X, Y and

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Speaker 2: Z go exactly your way to win in that style.

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Speaker 2: Whereas with Mike McCarthy, I think it's going to be

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Speaker 2: the complete opposite. We are going to see more wide

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Speaker 2: receivers on the field, a whole lot of three wide

495
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Speaker 2: receiver sets which we barely saw. You know, I think

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Speaker 2: what he's going to be able to do with this offense,

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Speaker 2: and you know this is not to throw dirt on

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Speaker 2: anybody that was here previously, but I think it's going

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Speaker 2: to look much more of a modern offense, and that

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Speaker 2: is something that this fan base has been crying out

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Speaker 2: for for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Now it is, and I think that can happen in

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Speaker 4: a number of ways. I think the Rams are an

504
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Speaker 4: interesting team, and Matt would know more about this than I,

505
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Speaker 4: but they seem to use a lot of three wide

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Speaker 4: receivers and run the ball really effectively. You know, you

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Speaker 4: don't have to have a power formation, extra offensive lineman,

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Speaker 4: two tights to run the football. And look, I thought

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Speaker 4: this year, you know, this year, the offense took a

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Speaker 4: step forward from what we've seen. I think Arthur Smith.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's he's overseen an offense that had the

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Speaker 4: fourth most rushes two years ago to the I tak

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Speaker 4: the fourth fewest or fifth fewest rush attempts this year.

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Speaker 4: So he's shown it. He showed adaptability. But he does

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Speaker 4: have a different scheme. It is tight end heavy, It

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Speaker 4: is big personnel. And I think one of the things

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Speaker 4: that became a problem this year, even as the Twodents

518
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Speaker 4: began to run the football better behind that big personnel,

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Speaker 4: is that again, guys. You know, I see the game

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Speaker 4: through a different lens and other people I'm up there

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Speaker 4: calling the game, but it didn't look like a lot

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Speaker 4: of receivers running free. A lot for Aaron Rodgers, you know,

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Speaker 4: there looked like he had to zip the ball into

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Speaker 4: tight windows a whole bunch. You know. I remember having

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Speaker 4: this discussion with my son a couple of years ago. Hey,

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Speaker 4: George Pickens, you know, another contested catch, and I said

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Speaker 4: to him, that's great, but how about some uncontested catcher

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Speaker 4: and we get some guys open, you know, And it

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Speaker 4: just didn't feel like there were a lot of open guys.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe there's some analytics or some studies that would

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Speaker 4: that would throw that back in my face, but that's

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Speaker 4: what it looked like to me, and it's understandable. And

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Speaker 4: you got a lot of big guys running around, you know,

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Speaker 4: other guys, you know, quicker guys, receiving guys that maybe

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Speaker 4: can can also schematically or toughness wise or whatever the case,

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Speaker 4: also help you in the running game. That'd be interesting

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Speaker 4: to see. And by the way, I like Darnelt Washington

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Speaker 4: and I like Pat fryar Wood, and I'll be interested

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Speaker 4: to see how they're utilized. One of the other things

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Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy said was, you got a scheme offensively and defensively,

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Speaker 4: but you have to tailor it to your talent. That's

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Speaker 4: music to my ears because I'm not sure how well

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Speaker 4: a lot of coaches do that, and I think it's

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Speaker 4: something that he's going to have to do with the

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Speaker 4: roster that he's been given.

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Speaker 3: Rob last thing I got for you is this, when

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Speaker 3: you look at the current roster, who's under contract, who

548
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Speaker 3: you know we're going to be back. Do you agree

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Speaker 3: that court back aside wide receivers your biggest need.

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Speaker 4: Yes. In fact, there's there's really no question.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean you can look at this team and

553
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 4: say even if they don't bring Kenny game well back, Well,

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Speaker 4: that's why you drafted Caleb Johnson. You got two good

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Speaker 4: running backs. Go get another guy in the fifth round

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00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 4: or another guy in free agency. You're fine there. I

557
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 4: just mentioned the tight ends. Your offensive line. You kept

558
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: drafting there, they've kept improving. It'll be interested to say

559
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 4: Spencer Anderson the left guard. If he is, you might

560
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 4: not need to to. You know that that's an area

561
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Speaker 4: that you might not even need to address in free agency. Again,

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Speaker 4: that's gonna be internal evaluation. Defensively, I think they've got

563
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Speaker 4: a lot of depth at a lot of places. I do

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Speaker 4: think either a safety or another defensive back is going

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Speaker 4: to be someone they're gonna target. Probably another inside the linebacker.

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Speaker 4: It's gonna be somewhere they're target. I think they're always

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Speaker 4: going to try to get guys in free agency here

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00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 4: in the draft along both lines, for sure. But no question,

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Speaker 4: besides quarterback, they're gonna be looking for a guy. They've

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Speaker 4: been looking for that guy for a couple of years

571
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Speaker 4: in a tight end heavy offense and haven't been able

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Speaker 4: to find him. Well, if we're going more toward three

573
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,840
Speaker 4: wide receiver sets, you can bet that that's that has

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Speaker 4: to be moving to the top of the top of

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Speaker 4: the line. By the way too, I'll be interested to

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Speaker 4: see if they can do something more with Roman Wilson,

577
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Speaker 4: but even even if they can, they're gonna need at

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Speaker 4: least one high end wide receiver in my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think Roman Wilson and Caleb Johnson

580
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:33,760
Speaker 2: gotta be yeah, yes, yes, new you know that classic.

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00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 2: It's the classic kind of change of scenery. But instead

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00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 2: of them moving to a different you know, for organization,

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00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 2: it's change of scenery around the organization that they're with currently.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you can bank on those guys,

586
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: but they're certainly renewed, uh, renewed life, renewed opportunity for

587
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 2: both of them at the same time as well, great stuff.

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Speaker 4: They're gonna be guys. Yeah, there's just said there's gonna

589
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 4: be two guys in the roster, two or three guys

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Speaker 4: in the roster that the coach is gonna look at

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Speaker 4: and say, I don't know why you were there's two

592
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 4: or three guys in the roger. They're saying, awome, this

593
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 4: guy hasn't been out there. That's just inevitable with scheme

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Speaker 4: and a different set of eyes and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely well, said Rob King. Great stuff, Thank you for

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Speaker 2: taking the time with us, with us as always, I

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Speaker 2: I hear the three of us will be doing some

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Speaker 2: radio together about three weeks from now out of the

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Speaker 2: combine in Indianapolis, So we'll be looking forward to it. Kinger,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk to you and we'll see you here soon anytime.

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Speaker 4: Guys always always appreciate jumping on.

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Speaker 2: Thanks there he goes voice of your Pittsburgh Steelers and

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Speaker 2: noted local author Rob King.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we should pump that up more often, by the way.

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Speaker 2: We should. I should have given him a Door in

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Speaker 2: the Stone the second. It's a it's a it's a

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Speaker 2: fantasy you know, if you're a Harry Potter, Lord of

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Speaker 2: the Rings type, you know fan, it's a it's a

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00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 2: fantasy trilogy from Rob King. The Door in the Stone

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Speaker 2: in the second of the three part series just released

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Speaker 2: available within the last week or two. Yeah, around bookstores

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Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh. Always on Amazon. Uh, certainly, as I'm actually,

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Speaker 2: I think probably when we get back from the combine,

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00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 2: gonna take some time and read that second book. That's

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Speaker 2: kind of it's kind of my wheelhouse like I'm not

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Speaker 2: a I'm not a fantasy dork. Yeah, but I dabble

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Speaker 2: like I do the Star Wars and the Harry Potter

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Speaker 2: and the Lord of the Rings stuff. Yeah, I'm I'm in.

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Speaker 2: I'm into all that certainly. So thanks to Rob King

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Speaker 2: for the time. As always, when we return, let's turn

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Speaker 2: our eyes to some combine conversation, some draft conversation, the

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Speaker 2: Senior Bowl in the books, Let's talk about some Risers

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Speaker 2: after this past weekend, and we will start to look

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Speaker 2: at some mock drafts as well too. All that and

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Speaker 2: more as we roll along West Shuler, Matt Williamson. It

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Speaker 2: is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation.

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Speaker 2: Radio, final segment of the first hour. We're gonna start

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Speaker 2: turning our attentions to the draft and to mock drafts

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Speaker 2: and all those things more and more the closer we

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00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 2: get to the combine love it. The closer, obviously, we

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Speaker 2: get to the end of April and the twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: six NFL Draft, which takes place by three weeks away,

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Speaker 2: three weeks from three weeks from actually three weeks from

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Speaker 2: about right now, we'll probably be landing in Indianapolis. Yeah, driving,

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Speaker 2: I mean I say landing. That makes it sounds like

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00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 2: we sound like we're flying. But Monday we'll all be

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00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 2: we'll all be caravaning together. You and I. I know

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00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:32,960
Speaker 2: Rob's doing on air stuff with us. I know Mike

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00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: Pursuit is doing on air stuff with us, and I

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00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,560
Speaker 2: think Max Starks as well too, So I think it'll

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Speaker 2: be I think it'll be the five of us plus

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Speaker 2: you know, we'll have Tyler with us doing video stuff

646
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Speaker 2: and producing stuff. Well great, awesome the part of certainly

647
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 2: one of the best parts, and we will well, we'll

648
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,440
Speaker 2: have a lot of fun those four days broadcasting there

649
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: on Radio Row inside the Indianapolis Convention Center and what's

650
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 2: become one of our favorite traditions. Oh yeah, I love

651
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 2: that week of all the stuff we do here on

652
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: on SA are in the Steelers Audio Network, Matt. Before

653
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: we jump into some of that stuff, though, some more

654
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:06,280
Speaker 2: news of the day that I wanted to get to

655
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: we didn't get to in the first segment, but is

656
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: certainly pertinent before we get back to the Steelers real quick.

657
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 2: According to Adam Schefter, the Ravens are hiring Anthony Weaver

658
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 2: as their defensive coordinator. We know he was on the

659
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 2: short list of candidates with formal interviews by the Steelers.

660
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: He was considered for the head coaching job here. Now

661
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: the Steelers will face him twice a year. As it

662
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: sounds like he's joining jesse Mentor's staff there in Baltimore.

663
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, it in a weird way. You know, Harbaugh leaves,

664
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 3: but they bring back a lot of you know.

665
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,480
Speaker 2: Raquin one degree of separation.

666
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 3: Ex actage, one area of separation, right, and it's still

667
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,960
Speaker 3: the same front office and all those things. But Weaver

668
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 3: seemed like a very valid coaching candidate for head jobs

669
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 3: this year, you know, maybe a year from now. He

670
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,920
Speaker 3: can you know, you have a successful season there he

671
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:56,600
Speaker 3: throws hat back in the ring. Good reputation. Steelers were

672
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 3: apparently interested too, So it sounds like a good hire

673
00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 3: for the Ravens.

674
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 2: It does. Yeah, I think it's a good higher for

675
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: the Ravens. I'll be interested to see because obviously we

676
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 2: know their head coach, jesse Mentor is a defensive guy,

677
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: so what's that kind of relationship with him and him

678
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: and Weaver look like. But yeah, I think it's gonna

679
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: be it'll be a very interesting kind of storyline as

680
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:17,840
Speaker 2: long as he's in Baltimore. Of you know, this guy

681
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: who was a finalist for the Steelers head coaching job

682
00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 2: now be in the DC for your biggest rival. That

683
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: it's always like those organizations are kind of in lockstep together.

684
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 3: He was in Miami last year and they hired a

685
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 3: defensive guy, and they hired a defensive coordinator today too,

686
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: So there wasn't a spot for him to go back,

687
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 3: but I fire him. I'd rather be with the Ravens.

688
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I certainly question. As much as we don't like

689
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 2: those guys, we respect those guys of that organization certainly.

690
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: And then also Matt. Some more official staff announcements by

691
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Yeah, here this afternoon. They have named Jason

692
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 2: Simmons defensive pass game coordinator and defensive backs coach. Scott McCurley,

693
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 2: familiar name insidelnebackers coach. We talked about him and he

694
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 2: was on staff previously, and I'm gonna do my best

695
00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: not to butcher this guy's name, Steve. I believe it's

696
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 2: Scarneckia is how he pronounces his last name. As the

697
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,800
Speaker 2: chief of staff for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So three official

698
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: additional hires.

699
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 3: A couple things. McCurley we mentioned, Yes, you know, we've

700
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: talked about him quite a bit, but I did want

701
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: to talk a little bit more about keeping him and

702
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 3: Tom Arth, you know, the carryover sure, and we get

703
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:31,959
Speaker 3: the other guys in a minute, but I think there's

704
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: a lot of value in just think about it, like, Okay,

705
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,280
Speaker 3: the defensive new defensive staff gets together or the new

706
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 3: offensive staff gets together, and you start watching last year's

707
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 3: tape and man, what were they thinking here?

708
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 2: What was the game plan? Yeah, the thought process and.

709
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 3: Arthur will be like, wow, our left tackle has a

710
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: bad ankle sore, you know, like this this was whether

711
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,959
Speaker 3: it worked or not. This is at least the way

712
00:34:56,080 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 3: we saw things going into New York or Baltimore or

713
00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: or whatever. As opposed to, man, I don't understand what

714
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: they're doing here, or you know, they don't leave the

715
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 3: cliff notes behind for you, you know, so I do

716
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,800
Speaker 3: think having a conduit on both sides of the ball

717
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: to this is what we thought of James Pierre, This

718
00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 3: is what we thought of this player, let alone gamed

719
00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 3: game or situation, situation. This is why we did it.

720
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,360
Speaker 3: Whether it worked or not, at least it was our logic.

721
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:27,640
Speaker 3: Is Scarneckia related to Dante?

722
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question. I'm sure I can. I'm

723
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 2: sure I can find that out.

724
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: On the time Simmons played, people can't remember him. He

725
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: was a defensive back with the Steelers. So a couple

726
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: of people on Twitter asked me, you know, why would

727
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 3: a Dante's son Dante's son? Okay, I mean Dad's a legend.

728
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 3: Dad's a true Hall of Fame position coach, big reason

729
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 3: why the Patriots were what they are. So I don't

730
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 3: know if Sons anything like them or not.

731
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: Dad was a five time Super Bowl champion with the Patriots, Yes,

732
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: and is in their Hall of Honor then yes.

733
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: I mean if there were, if there was a wing

734
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: for offensive line Hall of Fame coaches, Dad would be

735
00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: on it.

736
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: So he was with the Patriots from eighty two until

737
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen in some capacity.

738
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he could lord like Steve Grogan and

739
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, I mean, so he was a fixture.

740
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: So that's what when I heard the last name, I'm like,

741
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 3: I wonder there's something you know, a lot of nepotism

742
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: or you know a lot of the same names.

743
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: Also, that's also not a name. It's not Williamson. You know,

744
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 2: I'm not a last name you see all.

745
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,680
Speaker 3: The time exactly with these Kobacs and Lafloor's getting hired,

746
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 3: and it's like, I bet there's some connection here, Yeah, yep,

747
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: which I'm cool with.

748
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 2: There sure is lasting.

749
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 3: As of Simmons, I think it's just there's a little

750
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 3: bit of a pecking order, and not every assistant coach

751
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,359
Speaker 3: gets paid the same Not everyone has the same assignments

752
00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 3: generally speaking, like a running back coach or a tight

753
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 3: end coach isn't a revered on the last at her

754
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 3: as a quarterback coache. So I think when you put

755
00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 3: past game coordinator there with him kind of shows a

756
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: sign respect, probably a pay grade above additional title. Addition,

757
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 3: I have no idea what his responsibility is going to

758
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 3: be compared to mccurley's or whoever on game day, but

759
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll be greater. You know.

760
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: Yes, that makes sense. That actually that makes a lot

761
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 2: of sense. So that's what we know. Official announcement of

762
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 2: a trio of new staff members by the Steelers, and

763
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 2: then a familiar name that we've discussed plenty of Anthony

764
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:38,040
Speaker 2: Weaver headed to division rival Baltimore on more snooping.

765
00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: What is a chief of staff though, it's a good question.

766
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 2: My wife's that at her company, so I could real

767
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 2: quick and next let's get I mean chief of staff.

768
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:53,440
Speaker 2: Is it sounds funny, but you're kind of.

769
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 3: Not heard that on a NFL coaching STA.

770
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 2: I haven't heard it. That's that's normally what you get

771
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: with a big business. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in the in

772
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 2: the government, you know type thing. But senior level strategic

773
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 2: partner to a CEO, executive or leader acting?

774
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 3: Is he just right hand Manda McCarthy then.

775
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 2: Acting to manage high level initiatives, streamline operations and enhance productivity. Geez,

776
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 2: my wife has a fancy title. Even maybe I should

777
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 2: like congratulate her, should I wish I should give her

778
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 2: some props on that or something? But yeah, it is.

779
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he must have been around for a while

780
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 3: because his dad's got to be eighty by now, I mean, okay, yeah, yes,

781
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 3: so he's.

782
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 2: Probably honestly, like I think it is a greater executive

783
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 2: assistant almost, if that makes sense. I am it's like

784
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,440
Speaker 2: a CEO's.

785
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 3: Or is he just I don't think it designated.

786
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, it did not really, It did not really designate.

787
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 2: He's entering the seventeenth season in the nf NFL, his

788
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 2: sixth in the role of chief chief of staff. He

789
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,120
Speaker 2: spent the last two seasons as the chief of staff

790
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 2: for the Atlanta fouc the previous three seasons as the

791
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 2: chief of staff with the New York Jets. He was

792
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 2: also assistant head coach with the Falcons from twenty fifteen

793
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: to twenty twenty.

794
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:11,879
Speaker 3: Response sounds well rounded for both sides of all.

795
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: Sounds like his job responsibilities are coordinating the team's daily

796
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: meetings and practice schedule, overall football activities, calendar, establishing a

797
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 2: budget for football operations, scheduling practice, organized teams. Yeah so yeah,

798
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 2: so he's kind of a kind of a business hand

799
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,800
Speaker 2: of the head coach almost.

800
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:32,799
Speaker 3: It sounds like, I think operations a couple of days ago,

801
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 3: you're late last week. That I'm not saying it's a

802
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 3: weakness of McCarthy, but he's not as interested in doing

803
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 3: the practice schedules and that kind of stuff as some

804
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 3: other head coach.

805
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: Everyone's different, everyone's different, right.

806
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 3: So he probably needed this type of guy to sort

807
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 3: of day to day operations and things like that, you know,

808
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 3: like when the special teams coach we need more than

809
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 3: we need more time in practice. Wow, I'm not going

810
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 3: to take it from the run game, you know, Okay,

811
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 3: I'll figure out or you don't get or sorry, you

812
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 3: don't get it. You know, we only get two hours.

813
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 2: It's the same kind of conversation that we've had around

814
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 2: Omar Kahn and Andy Wydel. Yeah, yeah, and there how

815
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,000
Speaker 2: they work together, but in different roles.

816
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:12,520
Speaker 3: Not the same as Kevin was one.

817
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 2: One's your left hand, one's your right hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

818
00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: And I think this is kind of a similar.

819
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,399
Speaker 3: There's just only so many hours in the day.

820
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, and a lot of times too. You don't

821
00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 2: you don't want your you don't want your head coach

822
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,279
Speaker 2: dealing with kind of the pedantic details of the day

823
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: to day you want them to be.

824
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: Some people love it. Some people wants to know what's

825
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,879
Speaker 3: for lunch, right, strength and conditioning and all that stuff. Right.

826
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 2: Other people they just want to focus on the scheme

827
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: and the players and the talent evaluation and development and

828
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 2: that type of thing.

829
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 3: And hand they're off to someone does it better than me?

830
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 3: You're right, and you could I stop fixing things around

831
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 3: my house because I just break them more, you know.

832
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 2: Right, there's certain things matt around the house that I know,

833
00:40:51,719 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: if something breaks or needs worked on, I can handle it.

834
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's other things. It takes a busted pipe though.

835
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,320
Speaker 3: This week, well there was some instruction, but I didn't.

836
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,840
Speaker 2: God yea, God bless you exactly. If I need to

837
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 2: cut the grass or do some landscaping or anything like that,

838
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: I can do that. If I need to put a

839
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 2: new roof on my house, and calling somebody else, you know, yah,

840
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 2: knowing what you could do and knowing what you can't handle.

841
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: A funny story for you in that regard. A few

842
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,520
Speaker 2: summers ago. Yeah, I've got like gardens in our backyard.

843
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 2: I think, nothing insane, but I do tomatoes and peppers

844
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: and lettus. That West Virginia farm boy and me is

845
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: still still deep down in there somewhere. And yeah, there's

846
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 2: nothing better than, you know, grabbing a tomato out of

847
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: your backyard and frying up some bacon and some the

848
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 2: tomato and lettuce and a nice blt in the summertime.

849
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 2: My outside hose, like the faucet on it busted a

850
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 2: couple of summers ago, and I posted a quick fifteen

851
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 2: second video of it on Twitter, and I was like,

852
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,840
Speaker 2: can any like real blue collar man out there tell me?

853
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 2: Is this an easy fix or do I need some

854
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 2: real help. Ten minutes later, my phone rings and it's

855
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 2: Max Starks and he goes, I saw your tweet. I

856
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 2: know exactly what's wrong, Like, you gotta do this this

857
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 2: d because Max, I guess his dad and his uncle

858
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 2: did a bunch of building houses and home improvement tandyman

859
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 2: type stuff that he was growing up. Yeah, so he

860
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 2: went on a lot of jobs with his with his

861
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Speaker 2: dad and his uncle and was like, it's just the

862
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: top of your things busted. Like if you take it

863
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 2: into any hardware store, they'll be able to tell you

864
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: what to get, you know, twelve bucks and you can

865
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Speaker 2: replace it yourself. Don't call somebody. They're gonna charge you.

866
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 2: They're gonna charge you one hundred dollars, you know. So

867
00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: you gotta know, you gotta know what you can handle

868
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Speaker 2: and where it's best to pass things on elsewhere. Yeah,

869
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Speaker 2: And I think that makes a lot of sense.

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00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 3: So having a what was a chief executive chief of staff,

871
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Speaker 3: chief of staff, okay makes sense in this this instance

872
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:37,240
Speaker 3: for sure. Okay, and it sounds like he's done plenty

873
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Speaker 3: of it.

874
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Speaker 2: And it sounds like he has done plenty of it.

875
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Speaker 2: And then, like you mentioned, I like the idea of

876
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Speaker 2: having someone like McCurley, you know, who speaks the language

877
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Speaker 2: on defense of what they were trying to do, Tom

878
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Speaker 2: arth of what they were trying to do. That's a

879
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Speaker 2: that's a very interesting point to you by you. Yeah,

880
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 2: that's it's the whole kind of learn to think, is

881
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,359
Speaker 2: those around you think this isn't quite that?

882
00:42:57,400 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 3: But it's like you thought we could play a man

883
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 3: coverag against mar Chase all day. You were wrong.

884
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 2: Learn learned to think is the those you're taking over

885
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 2: for thought?

886
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Speaker 3: Yeah, which which I can learn from their mistakes too, Like,

887
00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,839
Speaker 3: just have someone to interpret the tape. We're sitting here

888
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 3: watching all twenty two together. It's silent tape in a

889
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 3: dark room. What are they thinking here? Well, there's no

890
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Speaker 3: captions on it, there's no commentator.

891
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Speaker 2: Scott spark notes from last year.

892
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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, Scott, what was the logic behind this?

893
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,360
Speaker 3: And like, well, we didn't our linebackers were heard or

894
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: blah blah blah.

895
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Speaker 2: You know, yep, yep, that's exactly right. So I mean

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Speaker 2: Other than that, some of the stuff we've touched on,

897
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:37,320
Speaker 2: like the reports are everywhere that the Raiders are expected

898
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Speaker 2: to hire Kubiak as their head coach.

899
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Speaker 3: Same with the Cardinals.

900
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Speaker 2: Kubiak Seattle's Seattle's offensive coordinator after the Super Bowl. Same

901
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Speaker 2: with the Cardinals with Lafloor. Other than that, I don't know.

902
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: I think that about covers.

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Speaker 3: I mean there's a lot of coordinator moves, a lot.

904
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Speaker 2: Of coordinator moves. So Raheem Morris is going to the

905
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Speaker 2: forty nine ers to replace Robert Salah, which is I

906
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Speaker 2: think nice higher for them.

907
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Speaker 3: That's when the bigger name moves.

908
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, there's twenty one offensive coordinator changes.

910
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Speaker 2: And crazy coach. That's crazy.

911
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Speaker 3: We went through it today. I mean you might even

912
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Speaker 3: find it interesting. Mike Clay put a spreadsheet together today

913
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Speaker 3: of every team's head coach, offensive coordinator, defensive coordinator GM

914
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Speaker 3: and there's only like six teams that didn't make a change.

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Speaker 3: It's like Carolina, Texas. They were all in the South

916
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Speaker 3: almost Jacksonville, Houston, Indie, Cincy, Carolina and that was about

917
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Speaker 3: it that didn't make a change of one of those

918
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Speaker 3: four spots.

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Speaker 2: Big big off season of change in the NFL. We

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Speaker 2: also found out today that the Saints will play the

921
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Speaker 2: NFL's first game in France in Paris. Yes, yes, which,

922
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Speaker 2: for those of you keeping track at home, the Steelers

923
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Speaker 2: are scheduled to play New Orleans away this year.

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Speaker 3: Matt oh, okay, I don't think I would be shocked

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Speaker 3: if you go back to I.

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Speaker 2: Would be shocked if they put the Steelers back to back.

927
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, but they're possible.

928
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Speaker 2: Certainly possible. Yeah, the Saints that will be one of

929
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Speaker 2: the home games quote unquote for New Orleans New Orleans,

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Speaker 2: and the Steelers are scheduled to be one of those games,

931
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Speaker 2: which Paris in Paris bat e.

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Speaker 3: And it's kind of like the Steelers. I mean, there's

933
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Speaker 3: a there was a Steeler Ireland connection.

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Speaker 5: There's a New Orleans, New Orleans and France. The accidents

935
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Speaker 5: absolutely base right there their logo. I think that's what

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Speaker 5: it's called. I want to say, Uh, that's close enough.

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Speaker 5: We'll leave it there for now. Quarter the French quarter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Oh, there's there's a lot of direct ties

939
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Speaker 2: between New Orleans and France. And yes, the Saints will

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Speaker 2: play the NFL's first ever game in France in Paris

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, this upcoming fall hour in the

942
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Speaker 2: books another hour ago. On the other side, we will

943
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Speaker 2: talk senior ball, some mock draft Monday stuff. We will

944
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 2: uh continue to uh to dig deeper and deeper into

945
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Speaker 2: this upcoming draft class here in our number two u'ler

946
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Speaker 2: Williamson halfway home. It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.