1 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to the Sunday Sampler. Hopefully you like 2 00:00:11,480 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 1: some of this. If you do, go check out the 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: podcast specifically for it. On the Bobby Cast, Sarah Beth 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 1: Tait joined me. I had a huge surprise for her. 5 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: There were tears. 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 2: Check it out. 7 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,160 Speaker 1: We'll start with this Take This Personally from Morgan Heelsman. 8 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: She talked with a physician and neuroscience expert about had 9 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: to heal from having anxiety and what steps that you 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:34,599 Speaker 1: can take to stop the alarms that people here when 11 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: they get anxious. Well, you'll hear four things with Amy Brown, 12 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,200 Speaker 1: Sore Losers, Movie Mike, and so much more. But let's 13 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: get started with a clip from Take This Personally with 14 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:43,919 Speaker 1: Morgan Heulsman. 15 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 3: Personally super exciting right now because I'm joined by doctor 16 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 3: Russell Kennedy, otherwise known as the Anxiety MD on social media. 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 3: He's a physician, neuroscience expert, among many other things. 18 00:01:16,280 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 4: How are you doing today? 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 5: I'm great, Morgan, How are you? 20 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 3: I'm doing good? And I'm really excited to really talk 21 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 3: to you about anxiety, because, man, I think anxiety has 22 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 3: a little bit of people out there who don't understand 23 00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:29,759 Speaker 3: it quite as well. 24 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: As they should. 25 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 5: Anxiety in your mind is really a state of alarm 26 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 5: in your body, physiological survival based alarm that you probably 27 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 5: had since you were a child. 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 3: So we know that talking about things is really good 29 00:01:41,040 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 3: for this mental aspect. But if somebody would want to 30 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 3: work on fixing that alarm, how do they go about 31 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 3: doing that? 32 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 5: So first of all, you find it in your body. 33 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 5: So what I will tell people is that when you're 34 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 5: really worried, when you're really anxious about something, And I 35 00:01:55,960 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 5: had a patient I talked about this in the book 36 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 5: whose father died when she was ten in an industrial accident. 37 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 5: He went out to work one summer morning and then 38 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 5: didn't come back. So her husband today, she's always looking 39 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 5: around the house to see if he's packed at the 40 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,480 Speaker 5: suitcase for a quick exit or leave, you know, so 41 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 5: she'll get into this thing where she convinces herself that 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 5: her husband is leaving her. Now, her husband's a really 43 00:02:19,800 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 5: good guy and is just is flabbergasted by this whole thing. 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 5: So when I tell her, like, whenever you start searching 45 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: the house for a suitcase, or whenever you start getting 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 5: paranoid that he's going to leave you, it's like, this 47 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 5: is not This is not you today, this is you 48 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 5: when you were ten years old and you're trying to reconcile. 49 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 5: You're trying to make sense of that whole situation. So 50 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 5: it's really realizing, Okay, this is actually a feeling. Like 51 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: I get her to say, where do you get this feeling? 52 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,640 Speaker 5: Like it's in your body somewhere, and she says, well, 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 5: it's this pressure. It's kind of like an hourglass around 54 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 5: my heart, Like it squeezes around my heart and then 55 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 5: it opens up below, like she described this real hourglass 56 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 5: thing where the middle of the hourglass was squeezing her heart, 57 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 5: and she said it fell hollow and black and alone. 58 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 5: And I really get people to look into their bodies 59 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 5: when they're anxious, because the anxiety that the worries will 60 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 5: never end, like they will just keep going and going 61 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 5: and going and going. But if you find this place 62 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 5: of alarm in your body, a lot of people, it's 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 5: in the midline between your chin and your pubic bone, 64 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 5: and just when you get anxious and I don't even 65 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 5: like that word. I like the word alarm better than anxious. 66 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 5: But even when you get anxious or alarmed, start searching 67 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 5: your body for this energy rather than getting stuck in 68 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: the endless machinations of your mind, because you're never going 69 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 5: to find healing in your mind. The healing comes from 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 5: binding this place in your body, which I believe is 71 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 5: your younger self. So that part of her that searches 72 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 5: around the house for the suitcase is her ten year 73 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 5: old self, her amygdalad or insula. The parts of our 74 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 5: brain that kind of record our experiences through life have 75 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 5: created this sort of age regression in her, and she 76 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 5: goes back to that same place and she feels like 77 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 5: a ten year old, although she doesn't know she's a 78 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 5: ten year old. So it's really about finding this alarm 79 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 5: that's stuck in your body and realizing that it's probably 80 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 5: decades old. 81 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 3: And when you find that, then how do you start 82 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 3: to get it. 83 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 6: Does it ever go away? 84 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 3: Did the alarm ever go away? Or are you just 85 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: now recognizing it and that's allowing you to then deal 86 00:04:18,839 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 3: with it. 87 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 5: It's a great question, Margy. I would say it never 88 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:22,239 Speaker 5: goes away. 89 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: But here's the kicker. I have it. 90 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 5: I still have it today, like I still have alarm 91 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 5: in my system, but I know it now. You know, 92 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: it's like the old It's like the T shirt that says, 93 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 5: I'm in my own little world. But it's okay. They 94 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 5: know me here, you know, I know it now, So 95 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 5: it's like I'm familiar with the sensation, and I don't 96 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 5: have to compulsively start adding worries to this feeling of 97 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 5: alarm in my body, which when you were a child, 98 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 5: when you went up to your head and to worry, 99 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 5: you kind of escaped this old alarm that you would 100 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: stuff down into your body. So worries become an escape. 101 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,080 Speaker 5: So they become addictive in a way because they give 102 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 5: you a little escape from this alarm in your body. 103 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: But they it becomes so habitual that they take you over, 104 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,839 Speaker 5: and it's like OCD. When someone has OCD, they may 105 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 5: start with, you know, tapping the doorknob three times, but 106 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 5: then and that works, and then it stops working, so 107 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 5: they tap the doorknob five times, and then twenty times, 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 5: and then they spin around five times because they're trying 109 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:20,560 Speaker 5: to recapture the same feeling of relief that they got initially, 110 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 5: which is what we do with worries. The worries actually 111 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 5: do provide us a little sense of relief for zero 112 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 5: point four of a second in our brain as we 113 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 5: make the uncertain a little more certain. That's what worries do. 114 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 5: They make the uncertain appear more certain and we get 115 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 5: a little dopamine hit in our brain from that, and 116 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 5: we get addicted to that. So if you're addicted to worries, 117 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 5: how are you going to stop? How are you going 118 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 5: to get out of your anxiety? Because there is the 119 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: human brain doesn't do anything where there isn't a reward. 120 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 5: So we're actually rewarded for our worries. And when we heal, 121 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 5: we have to go into our body resolve that alarm 122 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 5: that's driving, that's providing the energy for the worries in 123 00:05:57,839 --> 00:06:00,480 Speaker 5: the first place. And when we resolve that alarmed, the 124 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,040 Speaker 5: inner and the worries just kind of fade away or 125 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 5: they become so weak that we can see them as worries. 126 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: Are you an organized person? 127 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:16,600 Speaker 2: Now? 128 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: Yeah? You keep a calendar? Yeah, like what's your in 129 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: your phone? You have a calendar of like stuff? 130 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 2: What do you put in your rights? 131 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:27,760 Speaker 4: Yeah? 132 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: Okay, like mine everything is like colored right, like I 133 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 1: have like five This is how do you organize yours? 134 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 7: Okay, maybe I'm not as organized as I am. 135 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: Higher don't compare. Don't compare yourself to me. Because I am. 136 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:46,360 Speaker 1: It's like one of the things that I'm prideful of. 137 00:06:46,920 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: But it's again, it's a survival thing. Yeah, I need 138 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: everything mapped out exactly, which is great right now. It 139 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: depends who you're talking to. Yes, I can be a 140 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: little rigid. 141 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 7: I actually have been wanting to lately get a ritch you. 142 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: It's all cute for a minute. It's like going to 143 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: get a butter churner. It's like it was fun for 144 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: a picture. But god, dang, Forteme, you want to turn 145 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: a butter it sucks. 146 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 7: Okay, you're about to save me money because I was 147 00:07:11,520 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 7: a butter turner. 148 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, don't get that. I mean you can get one, 149 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: but it's annoying. What are you trying to prove? You're 150 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: carrying around paper? And also if it gets wet, it sucks. 151 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: You gotta have a pin. It's like do a your 152 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 1: pinw to borrow a pin? Now you got COVID because 153 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: the pin had COVID on it. You don't need that. 154 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 1: You can't put in your pocket. Just do it on 155 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: your phone. 156 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 7: Okay. It's the writer in me. I want to see it. 157 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: It is romantic to write, Yes, I bet you. 158 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 7: I want to romanticize my schedule. 159 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: Okay, pull up your phone? 160 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 6: Phone with you? 161 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 7: No, I don't. 162 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 1: Do you even have you use the phone? She's like, 163 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I do not. I want to romanticize. 164 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,240 Speaker 7: I'm off the grid. 165 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: No, I mail all my correspondents. 166 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 7: I very much, so have my phone. 167 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 8: You're making me nervous with what I'm supposed to be nothing. 168 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 1: Is this a little test? 169 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:54,880 Speaker 7: Okay? 170 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: What do you have? What is today? 171 00:08:01,760 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: Second? 172 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,120 Speaker 2: What do you do? What do you have for today? 173 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 9: You? 174 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 2: Okay? Like it? 175 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: What about tomorrow? 176 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 7: A doctor's appointment? 177 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 2: What about? 178 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: Let me just move on here? The twenty fifth? Do 179 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: you have anything October twenty fifth? I have? 180 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 8: Oh my daughter's birthday is the twenty seventh, but I 181 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 8: have nothing that Friday. 182 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So that's cool. Because what I would like to 183 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 1: invite you to do at some friends. You're gonna make 184 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: your Ofrey debut? 185 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:37,199 Speaker 7: No, are you serious? Are you kidding me? 186 00:08:37,280 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I'm not kidding you. What so if your calendar is free, 187 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:45,719 Speaker 1: how would you like to. 188 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 7: Oh my god, you have got to be joking. 189 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: I'm not joking. 190 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 7: What is that happening right now? Did you want to 191 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 7: know about this? 192 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: You haven't answered the questions? 193 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, I will be there. 194 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, I thought you were just did you 195 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:13,679 Speaker 8: just make this up? 196 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: Just like, what do you mean. 197 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 9: This? 198 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, that would be funny. No, I didn't make 199 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: it up that the texting had nothing to do with this. 200 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. 201 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: But the Oprey would like to invite you to come 202 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: out and make your Oprey debut on October twenty fifth. 203 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,719 Speaker 7: Oh my gosh, I cannot believe this. 204 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: How does that make you feel? 205 00:09:39,040 --> 00:09:39,679 Speaker 6: It's just the. 206 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 7: Most surreal this. 207 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 8: I think this is the most surreal moment of my 208 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,439 Speaker 8: ten years. 209 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 7: I've just I've. 210 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 8: Dreamt about that for so long, and you and you 211 00:09:53,679 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 8: watch your heroes do that's just the one thing that 212 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 8: is like you've made it when you do that. 213 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 7: I can't believe they're going to let me do that. 214 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: They're not letting you do anything. They think you have 215 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: earned the ability to play that stage. So they're not 216 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 1: letting you. There's no charity involved here, there's no make 217 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,480 Speaker 1: a wish. If so, I'd have gotten there a long 218 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: time early. 219 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 2: Wait let me play? 220 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: Uh No, then I think they have an appreciation for 221 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: what you do, how you do it, what you've created, 222 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: even with a new project. 223 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 7: Wow. 224 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: And so the twenty fifth Oh my gosh, I did 225 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: set you up on the other dates, Like I was like, 226 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: what are you doing today? I was just kind of 227 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: walking you to it. Yeah, that's exciting. 228 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 7: Wow, oh my gosh, thank you so much. 229 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 10: Up little food for yourself life. Oh it's pretty bad. 230 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 10: It's pretty beautiful thing beautiful for that for a little 231 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 10: more and it's exciting. Said he you're kicking with full 232 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:33,079 Speaker 10: with Amy Brown. 233 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 9: I just have just been feeling so down with all 234 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 9: that's going on. So it occurred to me that I 235 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 9: had to be open to a creative solution. And this 236 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 9: is something that feels really good to put up and 237 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:51,479 Speaker 9: really good to offer you and a good challenge for myself. 238 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 9: And it also occurred to me, even just in this 239 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 9: very moment as I'm talking, that some of you are 240 00:11:57,320 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 9: loyal listeners that just pull up the podcast when you're 241 00:12:00,600 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 9: driving or doing other things. So you may not be 242 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 9: prepared to walk, but you can still listen and take 243 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 9: in the words and then save this episode for when 244 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 9: you can actually do a walking meditation. But you know, honestly, 245 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 9: we're not experts here, so maybe you do a driving 246 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 9: meditation just definitely don't close your eyes, but in a 247 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 9: walking meditation. You don't either. But maybe you're cleaning your house, 248 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 9: or you're running errands, or whatever it is you're doing. 249 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 9: Just do the whatever it is you're doing meditation and 250 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 9: then you can also save it and come back to 251 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 9: it when you're ready. But since this is my first one, 252 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 9: we're keeping it very simple. It is a five minute 253 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:42,120 Speaker 9: meditation that I wrote and recorded earlier today. So I 254 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,720 Speaker 9: hope that you'll take the next five minutes for yourself 255 00:12:45,679 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 9: and here you go, enjoy. Welcome to a walking meditation. 256 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 9: That isn't about doing it perfectly. It's just about showing 257 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 9: up and taking a little time to be present. So 258 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 9: take a deep breath in and breathe it out. I 259 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 9: hope that this is some time for yourself, for you 260 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 9: to clear your mind and reconnect to yourself. So bring 261 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 9: awareness to your body. 262 00:13:27,360 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 11: How does it feel. 263 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:32,680 Speaker 9: For me? One of the first things I notice is 264 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:37,559 Speaker 9: my shoulders, So notice your shoulders. Maybe they need to relax. 265 00:13:38,840 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 9: What about your breath? Can you get more intentional with it? Like, 266 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 9: take a deep breath in and excel slowly. This is 267 00:13:51,520 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 9: a time for you to slow down and just be 268 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 9: Notice your steps, feel the ground underneath your feet. There's 269 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 9: no need to rush or force anything. Just let your 270 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 9: body go at the pace that it needs. Each step 271 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 9: is grounding you, connecting you to the present moment. You 272 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 9: can take a deep breath in again through your nose, 273 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 9: hold it for a second, and then exhil through your mouth. 274 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 9: As you continue walking, keep breathing and bring your attention 275 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 9: to your surroundings. 276 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 7: What do you see? 277 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 9: I personally love looking at the trees, especially now with 278 00:14:38,040 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 9: the changing colors of fall. I just take it all in. 279 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 9: And then there's sometimes birds flying from tree to tree. 280 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,840 Speaker 9: I try to take that in and have gratitude for it. 281 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 9: So what is it that you see around you? Take 282 00:14:50,920 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 9: a second to really notice things, Take it all in 283 00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,640 Speaker 9: and breathe, and now ask yourself as you or walking, 284 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 9: what is something that brings you joy? Maybe it's a memory, 285 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 9: a person, or just the fact that you're taking this 286 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 9: time for yourself right now. Is that what is bringing 287 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 9: you joy? Just think of anything, no matter how small, 288 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 9: how big, something that brings you joy and take another 289 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 9: deep breath in and let it out slowly. Now, let's 290 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 9: think about hope. Two things. I love a lot, joy 291 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 9: and hope. No matter what is happening in the world, 292 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 9: or in your life. Know that hope is something that 293 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 9: you can carry with you with each step. Let's imagine 294 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 9: ourselves walking towards something positive, whether it's a goal, or 295 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 9: a dream, or simply a sense of peace. Believe that 296 00:15:54,920 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 9: you have what it takes to move forward. Now, check 297 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 9: in with your self again. How are you feeling. Is 298 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 9: your mind wandering? 299 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 11: If so, that's okay. 300 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 9: Acknowledge any thoughts and then release them and bring your 301 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 9: focus back to your breath and back to your steps. 302 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 9: Has a problem popped into your mind, that's okay too. 303 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 9: Acknowledge it and remember you are open to creative solutions. 304 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 9: Remind yourself of that. You can say it out loud 305 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 9: if you need to. I am open to creative solutions. Breath, 306 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 9: then again, end out. This moment is yours. There is 307 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 9: no need to rush. Allow yourself to enjoy the simple 308 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:47,240 Speaker 9: act of moving and being present. You are enough just 309 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 9: as you are now. I want to take a moment 310 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 9: and encourage you to smile. Now, this used to make 311 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 9: me uncomfortable, but I have come to love it. I 312 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:02,280 Speaker 9: know it might feel a little silly, especially if you're 313 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 9: out in public, but go ahead, smile to yourself. To 314 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 9: smile feel how simple that tiny movement on your face 315 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 9: changes your energy. Smiling even when no one's looking, is 316 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 9: a small act of joy. Take one more deep breath 317 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 9: in in for four, hold for four, and exhale for four. 318 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 9: Now I want you to take a moment thank yourself 319 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:46,639 Speaker 9: for being here. I hope you take this feeling of calm, hope, 320 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 9: joy and belief in yourself. I hope you take this 321 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:54,359 Speaker 9: with you the rest of the day. If you need 322 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 9: to rewind a little bit and do this all again, 323 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 9: I hope you take the time to do that for yourself, 324 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 9: and remember, at any moment you can stop, notice your surroundings, 325 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 9: take some breaths, do some walking, and reset your mind. 326 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 9: Thanks for being here. 327 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 12: We're gonna do it live. Oh the one, two, three, 328 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 12: sore losers? 329 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 6: What up, everybody? I am lunchbox. 330 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 13: I know the most about sports, so I'll give you 331 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,400 Speaker 13: the sports facts, my sports opinions, because I'm pretty much 332 00:18:46,400 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 13: a sports genius, y'all. 333 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 14: It's Sison. I'm from the North. I'm an alpha male. 334 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 14: I live on the north side of Nashville with Baser, 335 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,919 Speaker 14: my wife. We do have a farm. It's beautiful, a 336 00:18:54,920 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 14: lot of acreage, no animals, a lot of crops. Hopefully 337 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 14: soon corn pumpkins, rye. I believe maybe a little fescue. 338 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 14: Oh to be determined. 339 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 13: Over to you, coach, And here's a clip from this 340 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 13: week's episode of The Sore Losers. Right, my son, baby 341 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 13: Box three, he turned three years old the other day. 342 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 12: Not another birthday? 343 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 6: Oh no, that yeah, it happens once a year. 344 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 13: Each kid's gonna have a birthday and we're gonna celebrate it, 345 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,840 Speaker 13: and it's gonna be amazing, and you want him to 346 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 13: have great memories. 347 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 6: And so much fun. Here's the thing. 348 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 13: At three years old, did we throw him a birthday party? 349 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 13: Absolutely not. 350 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 6: There's a lot of people that throw three year old 351 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:37,440 Speaker 6: birthday parties. 352 00:19:37,600 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 13: I just am not. A three year old doesn't really 353 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 13: have friends. They know of kids, but they don't have friends. 354 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:47,239 Speaker 13: There's no need to have a birthday party. But we 355 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 13: wanted to make it special and so I gotta go 356 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 13: to the you know, local Kroger. 357 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 12: Do it for the gram? 358 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,240 Speaker 6: No we didn't. We didn't do it for the Gram. 359 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 6: I just got to get a couple of balloons because. 360 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 12: When you're kidding, you don't post your kids. 361 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 13: I know home, But that's what a lot of people do. 362 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 13: They do it for the gram that's why they have 363 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 13: a birthday party. So I gotta go get a couple 364 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 13: of balloons because when he wakes up in the morning, 365 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,920 Speaker 13: you want him to have balloons when he wakes up. 366 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, it's my birthday. It's exciting. So I go 367 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:17,000 Speaker 6: to the local Kroger at like eight pm. 368 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 12: Not the spot, but okay, And. 369 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 13: I grab a number three balloon because he's sterning three 370 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 13: years old. And I grab a Paul Patrol balloon because 371 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 13: he likes Paul Patrol. So I get him and I 372 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 13: go through the checkout and and I'm like, yeah, can 373 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,800 Speaker 13: you can you blow these up for me? They said, 374 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 13: oh yeah, just go over to the floral department. I'll 375 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 13: send someone over there. I'm all right cool. So they 376 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 13: get on the intercom. Oh, because there's no floral department 377 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 13: person working. 378 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 6: They're gone home for the night. 379 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 13: I was like, oh, the floral apartment person night, No, no, no, 380 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 13: I have to get someone from you know, different department. 381 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 6: Floral's closed for the night. 382 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 12: I'm like, okay, do you care if I go with 383 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 12: my girlfriend? I'm gonna check out. 384 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 13: Ear So I was like all right, cool, cool. So 385 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,719 Speaker 13: I go over there and I hear over the intercom. 386 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 13: Can I get someone from produce, someone from produce to 387 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 13: help someone in the floral department. 388 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 12: Oh, man, I got meat hands. What the heck am 389 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 12: I supposed to do? 390 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 13: I'm like, wait, so I gotta wait for Johnny Appleseed 391 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 13: to come over here. 392 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 6: Why I am, okay, cool? All right? 393 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 13: Flora, floral and produce are kind of close together. It'll 394 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 13: it'll be a minute. 395 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:23,480 Speaker 6: Damn it. 396 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 12: I got poultry all over my hands. 397 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 6: Then I wait. 398 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 13: There, I'm sitting there checking out the floral arrangements. Oh 399 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 13: these are real nice. Oh, bouquet roses, some different colored 400 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 13: flowers that I don't know what they are. 401 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 6: Nice nice? 402 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 13: Oh yeah, I got a lot of balloons. But no, 403 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 13: I just need these blown up. I see the helium tank. 404 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 13: You think I could just do it myself? Probably not 405 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 13: a good idea. Six minutes goes by, no one comes, 406 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 13: so I got I go to the customer service. I'm like, yeah, 407 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 13: I'm just you know, I'm just trying to get these balloons, 408 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 13: you know, blown up, And they're like, oh, yeah, if 409 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 13: you'll just pay them before him, they'll page some to 410 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 13: come over there. I said, no, no, here's mar seat 411 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 13: I already paid for him. Just need someone to come 412 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 13: over there. Oh here, let me let me call them. 413 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,640 Speaker 13: Can I get someone from produce to the floral department 414 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 13: for customer assistance? 415 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 8: Please? 416 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 13: Can I get Can I get someone from the produce 417 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,040 Speaker 13: department to the floral department or customer? 418 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: Shit? 419 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 12: Got apple all over my hands? 420 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 6: Okay, cool? They should be right over sir, Thank you. Cool. 421 00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 12: Damn it, I got the aid playing all over my hands. 422 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 13: I'm like, all right, so I go back over there 423 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 13: looking at the flowers again. Man, I've already loved at 424 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 13: this bouquet of flowers. Seeing that bouquet of flowers. You're 425 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 13: doing the fake walk by, doing the fake walk by 426 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 13: like I'm shopping, just kind of like, alright, they're gonna 427 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,280 Speaker 13: get That's. 428 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 12: A fast food plays. Whenever you're waiting for your food, 429 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 12: it's always a yeah. 430 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 14: You're putting your hand on the fountain drink maker, seeing 431 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 14: how it's made. You got your drink. You're just seeing 432 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 14: the straws. Oh, that's where they put all the large 433 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 14: straws out. 434 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 6: I got it. 435 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 15: Yeah. 436 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 6: You're leaning up against that wall. That wall is not 437 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:56,680 Speaker 6: very comfortable. Let me move over to this wall. 438 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 14: Looking at the menu that you've already known since childhood. 439 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 12: Oh, they got the big. 440 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 13: Mag I do love when people walk into like a 441 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 13: Chick fil A and they stare at the menu like 442 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 13: like you haven't been here a million times, Like okay, 443 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 13: maybe one in every hundred people have never been there, 444 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 13: so they're trying to figure out what they want. But 445 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 13: for the most part, you know exactly what they have, 446 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 13: and you know exactly what you're gonna order. 447 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 14: Spicy chicken, regular chicken, pimento cheese. They've got the now. 448 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 14: Someplaces got the Burger Spot, they got the lemonade. They 449 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 14: got the sweet lemonade with the lemonade on our old Palmer. 450 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 14: No ice cream, maybe ice cream, no ice cream, chicken nuggets, 451 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 14: chicken minies, the large waffle fries, medium with waffle fries. 452 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 6: There you go. So just sitting there. 453 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 12: Back to Kroger. 454 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:42,919 Speaker 13: Yeah, back to Kroger. Another five minutes goes by and 455 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 13: here comes Thomas walking up. You got some blue gloves 456 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 13: on and I my, He's like, oh, did you need 457 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 13: some help, sir? 458 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 12: He's got the OJ gloves on. Hey man, I just 459 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 12: needed a balloon. 460 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 13: I was like, yeah, man, I was just trying to 461 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 13: get these balloons blown up because oh yeah, I heard 462 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 13: them pageing sorry about that, I was on break. Cool, 463 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 13: So you couldn't have like called them back and said, hey, 464 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 13: I'm on break. 465 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 6: Can you get someone else to do it? You just 466 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 6: and he was like, and my break had just started. 467 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 12: It was a fifteen minute or American way. 468 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 13: And I'm like, oh, cool, man, I'm glad I had 469 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 13: to sit here and wait while you took your damn break. 470 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 13: I mean, I know, hey, listen, I gotta be honest. 471 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 13: I'm glad you got a break, but I mean you 472 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 13: could at least let someone know you were on break 473 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,439 Speaker 13: instead of me sitting here for fifteen freaking minutes. I 474 00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 13: really only waited eleven minutes because I guess you were 475 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 13: four minutes into your break before I paged you. 476 00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:34,440 Speaker 6: But cool, He's like, do you know what color ribbon 477 00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 6: you want? 478 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 13: I'm like, oh, orange is fine, man, all right, make 479 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 13: it rainbow and he blows up the three bo. 480 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 12: That was jump scared dude, he popped it. 481 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: Oh too much air? 482 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:47,439 Speaker 12: What was that like in person? 483 00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 6: That was loud? 484 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 8: On? 485 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 6: I was scary? Scary? 486 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 12: Is it scare of the kid? 487 00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 13: Well, my kid's not with me? Oh, because the kid 488 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 13: I'm gonna put him at the kitchen table. So when 489 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:57,479 Speaker 13: he wakes up in the morning. This is at eight 490 00:24:57,480 --> 00:24:59,439 Speaker 13: o'clock at night, so he's already in bed, right. 491 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,360 Speaker 14: But you said they're I can remember anyways, so who 492 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 14: gives a shit? Well, let him come and see the surprise, 493 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 14: experience the surprise. He'll forget about it in five years. 494 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 6: No, No, but he would remember the next morning because 495 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 6: he'd already have seen the balloon. 496 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 14: Right, But their memories aren't that developed. These in five years, 497 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 14: he's not gonna remember, right, But that morning, I want 498 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 14: it to be a surprise. I want to see the 499 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 14: excitement on his face. 500 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 12: Kids are basically eighty year old old with dementia. 501 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,120 Speaker 13: They really, when you think about it, they are. It's 502 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 13: so weird that they don't remember anything, Like they don't 503 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 13: really have memories before five years. 504 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:35,840 Speaker 12: Old, correct, So it's really just a mini dementia. 505 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 6: So when we do all these events and cool things 506 00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,200 Speaker 6: and they won't remember it, I sit there and think, 507 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, they're never gonna remember this. This is 508 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 6: crazy to me. 509 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 14: Shouldn't have said that's actually sad family members have dementia. 510 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: It's it's sad. 511 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 14: It's a terrible it's a terrible disease. Terrible, man, it 512 00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 14: might be the worst one. I'd rather go than not 513 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 14: be able to remember. Crap, you got your own wife 514 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 14: in front of you. 515 00:25:58,160 --> 00:25:58,879 Speaker 2: You're like, who are you? 516 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 12: WHOA look at those I know you. 517 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 10: I'm your wife. 518 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, that's that's that's a tough one, man. So back 519 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 6: to more positive news. 520 00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:09,440 Speaker 13: So he pulls out a number three balloon, another one 521 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 13: and fills it up and he's like, all right, here 522 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 13: you go, just take this the register to pay for it. 523 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 6: I'm like, no, no, here's my receipt. 524 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 13: Man already paid, tried to, They tried to make me 525 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:18,120 Speaker 13: pay again. 526 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 6: I'm like, no, no, I got a receipt man. 527 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 5: You know. 528 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 13: It's like, oh, okay, cool, we'll have a great day, 529 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 13: enjoy the birthday. I'm like thanks, man, And then I 530 00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 13: walk out and I go home and I forgot to 531 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 13: get a cake, so I had to go back the 532 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 13: next day and get a cake. 533 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 12: Same dude, Thomas. 534 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 13: No, No, I went to the bakery that time and 535 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 13: I asked him to put my son's name on it, 536 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 13: and they misspelled the name. 537 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:46,160 Speaker 12: Oh oh oh yeah, that you have. 538 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:53,640 Speaker 13: Quinn Yeah, And they put Finn Cam. Yeah, and they 539 00:26:53,640 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 13: put con Jalen. Yeah, what did I name? Heisman Trophy finalists? 540 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 13: But they misspelled the name and I was like, oh whatever, 541 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 13: I don't care, man, just whatever, Like, I'm not gonna 542 00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 13: argue with you, dude, I totally hear. It was supposed 543 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 13: to be it was supposed to be an A and 544 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 13: they put an O instead. But I'm like, I'm not 545 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:15,359 Speaker 13: gonna mess with it. 546 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 14: We at the CARES team, remember we used to have 547 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 14: to do that. Cakes balloons they screw up all the time, 548 00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:23,120 Speaker 14: all the time. Yeah, the spelling is always an issue, 549 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 14: the exact size of it, if it's cursive, if it's 550 00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 14: even legible. 551 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 12: It's a lot. 552 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 6: Yeah, but yeah, that was the birthday. 553 00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 12: Man. 554 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 13: He loved the balloons. The balloon is still up. We 555 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 13: still play with the number three balloon. Baby Box accidentally 556 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 13: broke the string on the Paul Patrol balloon that morning, 557 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 13: and so it's just sitting on the kitchen ceiling and 558 00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,480 Speaker 13: they keep asking me when you're gonna get that down, 559 00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 13: and I keep forgetting. 560 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 14: And I just remembered right now that it's still sitting 561 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 14: up there. Give it three more days, it'll be down. 562 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: That's right. 563 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 13: Uh So, Yeah, that was it. That was his birthday party. 564 00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 13: But it was just took me back to the hole 565 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 13: in America. You can't get help anywhere. 566 00:27:56,600 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 8: Man. 567 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 14: But did the produce guy did he end up getting 568 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 14: that break? He finished it out? Oh he finished it? No, 569 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:03,960 Speaker 14: he finished it for he came. 570 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: Man. 571 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,280 Speaker 4: Hey, it's Mike d and this week I'm moving Mike's 572 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 4: movie podcast. It was really cool for me. If you 573 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 4: listen to my podcast, you know I am huge into 574 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,720 Speaker 4: horror movies and I got to talk to two horror icons, 575 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 4: Robert England, who plays Freddy Krueger in the original A 576 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 4: Nightmare on Elm Street, and Heather Langenkamp, who plays Nancy 577 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 4: in that movie. They were together again celebrating the fortieth 578 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 4: anniversary of A Nightmare on Elm Street. We dove into 579 00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 4: the movie's history through numbers. So I'll play a little 580 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 4: bit of that for you now, but be sure to 581 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 4: go check out this full episode. You can check out 582 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: clips all my socials at Mike Dstro But right now, 583 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 4: here's just a little bit of my interview with Robert 584 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 4: England and Heather langen Camp aka Freddy Krueger and Nancy. 585 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 4: So I want to do a buy the numbers interview 586 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 4: to see how many number related questions we're here to 587 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: get in here, Starting off with forty it's been forty 588 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 4: years since the movie came out. The next number is 589 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 4: thirty two. The entire movie was filmed in thirty two days. Heather, 590 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 4: what was your favorite day on set? 591 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:12,520 Speaker 8: Oh? 592 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 16: Gosh, probably the days I didn't have a big makeup 593 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 16: I mean a big stunt or something. I know, the 594 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 16: day with Johnny when we're walking across the bridge in Venice, 595 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:25,160 Speaker 16: or the day with Amanda where we're at the party 596 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 16: and where you know, first talking about Freddy. Those days 597 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 16: were really luxurious because there wasn't a lot of tension 598 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 16: acting and I could just hang out with everybody and 599 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,320 Speaker 16: have a great time. Most other days when we did 600 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,719 Speaker 16: do like the bathtub scene or chase scenes, all of 601 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 16: those were really you know, you don't have a lot 602 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 16: of time. You have to be on your mark, you 603 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 16: have to know exactly what you're doing. A lot more pressure, 604 00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 16: a lot less time to hang out and just kind 605 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 16: of have a great time on set with my co stars. 606 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,200 Speaker 17: Any day when I'm getting the makeup off, yeah that's happy. 607 00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 17: But I got the makeup off one day and it 608 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 17: was a couple of you know, buddy boogers hanging from 609 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 17: my ears and underneath my chin, and Heather and I 610 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 17: wanted to see the revolving room and this was going 611 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,239 Speaker 17: to be the shot of Johnny Depp's bed exploding with 612 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 17: all the blood coming out in a gusher like Old Faithful. 613 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 17: And they had this great revolving room and it was 614 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 17: the same room they used for Amanda on the ceiling, 615 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 17: for Tina on the ceiling, but they had redressed it 616 00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 17: to become Johnny Depp's bedroom. 617 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 6: And they had been. 618 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,239 Speaker 17: Working all night and they had it all ready to go, 619 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 17: and Heather and I walked out to watch it, you know, 620 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 17: and I was still wiping some of my makeup off, 621 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,080 Speaker 17: and Heather. 622 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 6: Was in her little pajamas. 623 00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 17: And I remember standing out there and they spun it 624 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 17: the wrong way. And Wes and Jacques Kaiken, our cinematographer, 625 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 17: were inside in these Volkswagen bucket seats with the camera 626 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 17: mounts so they would be upside down while the thing 627 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 17: they erupted and came down so it would look using 628 00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 17: gravity to make it look like it exploded. That's how 629 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 17: they did it. They got the idea from the shining anyway, 630 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 17: they spun it the wrong way, and all the blood 631 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 17: came out of the windows of Johnny Depp's bedroom and 632 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 17: out the door of Johnny Depp's bedroom and covered West 633 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,479 Speaker 17: and Jacques Heiken and I remember standing with you and 634 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 17: we saw this puddle coming at us and I looked 635 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 17: down and if you know anything about movie sound stages 636 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 17: in Hollywood, they're all cables, electrical cables everywhere, plugged in. 637 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 17: And I said, this doesn't look good. 638 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 1: Us. 639 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 17: The two of us ran all the way back to 640 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 17: the baker. 641 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 7: Yeah. 642 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,239 Speaker 17: Yeah, but we didn't get like but that's like, I 643 00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 17: really remember that. I remember that, yeah, because I was. 644 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 17: I really thought something terrible was going to happen. 645 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 4: The next number is seven. That's the total number of 646 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 4: minutes that Freddy was on screen in the first movie Robert, 647 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 4: based on your relationship with wesb seven minutes in Heaven, 648 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 4: seven minutes based on your relationship with Wes Craven. Do 649 00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 4: you think that was more by design because he wanted 650 00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 4: to keep Freddy mysterious or was it more based on 651 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: the budget of the movie. 652 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 17: No, I'll tell you what I think their true truth was, 653 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 17: and it's because I got act says to this right 654 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 17: at the last minute with the final makeup tests and 655 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 17: wardrobe tests. Both Robert Shay and Wes were petrified about 656 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,840 Speaker 17: lighting the makeup. The makeup look great, but they were 657 00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 17: worried about the lighting. And what we discovered almost immediately, 658 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 17: because I think I had a scene with Heather pretty quickly, 659 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 17: is that I could not step into the kids lighting. 660 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 1: They were lit traditionally and attractively. 661 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 17: If I went in there, I became to my makeup 662 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 17: look too white or too pink, and so we had 663 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 17: to light me. And it was incumbent upon Heather and 664 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 17: Johnny Depp and Amanda Whist and everyone to step into 665 00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 17: my lighting and which was more dramatic and darker. And 666 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,240 Speaker 17: that's how they solved that. But they were so nervous 667 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,360 Speaker 17: about the makeup and what it would look like, and 668 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 17: they hadn't started seeing dailies yet or rushes yet. I 669 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 17: think they just had minimized my screen time because of that, 670 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 17: and there came a probably came a point where they 671 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 17: probably wish they'd a shot more. But there's nothing in 672 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 17: Nightmare One that I shot that's not in the movie, 673 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 17: except maybe a little bit on the ceiling dragging Amanda. 674 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 16: And also with Ronnie at the end in that burn scene. 675 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 16: I know that. That's yeah, it's pretty short, much shorter 676 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 16: than I think. 677 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 2: What was shot. Yeah. 678 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 17: I think I went in there and substituted at the beginning, 679 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 17: and then Tony went in to stunt. My stunt Noble 680 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 17: went in and did the flame stuff. But I know that, yeah, 681 00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:37,440 Speaker 17: because I remember being in that room. So I must 682 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 17: have been doing something with Ronnie. I think I you know, 683 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 17: I might have kissed her or pinned her down or 684 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 17: whispered something in her ear and leaned up and then 685 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 17: I combusted, and I think they substituted the stuntman in then. 686 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 17: That was a famous fire stunt at the time. But yeah, 687 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 17: that except for that though, I got all the screen 688 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 17: time that was there. But you know, no small parts, 689 00:33:57,400 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 17: only small actors. 690 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: The next number is seventy nine. That is the total 691 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 4: number of kills Freddy hess throughout the entire franchise, out 692 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,400 Speaker 4: of this movie or out of any movie. What is 693 00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,439 Speaker 4: each of your favorite kills that Freddy has done? 694 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,879 Speaker 2: Heather, what's your favorite? 695 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 16: I have to say the most unique and disgusting kill 696 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:18,080 Speaker 16: was when he kills brook These in Nightmare four. Who's 697 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 16: the cockroach and she turns into the cockroach. And that 698 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 16: one is funny and disgusting and grotesque, and it's also 699 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 16: one of my best friends getting killed. 700 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 12: Besides, it's also. 701 00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:33,319 Speaker 17: Very Pafka esque, which really serves the surrealism. 702 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 2: And the nightmare mayor thing. 703 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560 Speaker 12: I think I like the boy with the hearing aid 704 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 12: that was brutal. 705 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,840 Speaker 17: Heart in part Yeah, in part six is so politically incorrect. 706 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:47,279 Speaker 17: And I always like Amanda on the ceiling. That's so disorienting. 707 00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it's so unexpected to the way it starts 708 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 4: the movie, like you don't see that coming. 709 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:52,760 Speaker 6: I remember she's. 710 00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 17: The janetly sacrificial lamb. 711 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 12: Yeah, that's why the lamb's in. 712 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 17: There in that corridor school corridor. 713 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 6: Thank you, thank you so much. 714 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,799 Speaker 12: It's wonderful they got a math in that interview there, 715 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,160 Speaker 12: I go. 716 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 18: Cary Line, she's a queen and talking and it was 717 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 18: so she's getting really not afraid to fail episode, so 718 00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:24,439 Speaker 18: just let it blow. 719 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: No one can do we quiet carylne it's sound of 720 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 4: care alone. 721 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 11: Do you feel imposter syndrome? Because you are changing people's 722 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:36,960 Speaker 11: lives and you're delivering messages? 723 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 15: But I am always like I'm gonna getting messages from people, 724 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 15: but I don't feel like I have a message to 725 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 15: share with people. 726 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 2: I think we, I think, any of us. 727 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 18: It's the it's the uh irony of what people like 728 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:52,319 Speaker 18: you and me do where we like we eagerly reach 729 00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 18: for a microphone, but deep down, like have that feeling 730 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 18: in moments of like imposter syndrome or like what if 731 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 18: they find out I'm not really that talented or what 732 00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 18: you know what I mean? And to your point about wondering, 733 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 18: like do you have a story to tell? Well, it's 734 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 18: funny you say that, because like I've built my whole 735 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,440 Speaker 18: platform on not really my story, but encouraging other people 736 00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,600 Speaker 18: to recognize the power in their story. So like not 737 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 18: to like give you a spiritual answer to your thought. 738 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 18: I really think that like each and every one of 739 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 18: us are created by design, with intentionality of the master 740 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 18: creator and with a purpose. And the Bible talks about 741 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 18: how God created where his handiwork. Another translation says we're 742 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 18: his craftsmanship, which, like I love that word craft because 743 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 18: that's that speaks to the one in a million ness 744 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,080 Speaker 18: of each one of us, one in a billion, thiss right, 745 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:47,600 Speaker 18: the fingerprint, the uniqueness of who we are and it 746 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 18: says we were uh that He created us to do 747 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,839 Speaker 18: good works which were prepared in advance for us to do. 748 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 18: So that answers your question, Caroline, that your story is 749 00:36:59,080 --> 00:36:59,720 Speaker 18: worth telling. 750 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: People want to know, people want to read your book. 751 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 15: How do you have like when did you first have 752 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 15: conviction for what you're saying? Because I feel like too, 753 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 15: going back to imposter syndrome, like I've realized I can't 754 00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:16,200 Speaker 15: speak out to people unless I fully believe and know 755 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 15: for sure that what I am saying is my truth 756 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:22,680 Speaker 15: for me, you know, like I feel it in my bones, 757 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 15: not just have heard it, because I feel like a 758 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 15: lot of times with Christianity, and I would love to 759 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 15: hear your perspective on this. People get information that's just 760 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:31,680 Speaker 15: kind of been passed down and taught to them, but 761 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 15: a lot of times to disconnect is there of they 762 00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 15: don't actually have their own personal relationship, And so how 763 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:40,759 Speaker 15: did you get your first conviction of like I have 764 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 15: to speak this because I know this is the truth, 765 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 15: and I know people have to hear this, not just 766 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 15: like I've been told this is the truth and I 767 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,799 Speaker 15: don't want to go to hell, so I'm gonna believe it. 768 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: That's a great question, and it's a big part of 769 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 2: my story. 770 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,960 Speaker 18: Like I grew up a preacher's kid, like I was 771 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,320 Speaker 18: in the front row of my mom and my dad's 772 00:37:57,400 --> 00:38:01,560 Speaker 18: church in the suburbs, the suburbs of Cago my whole life. 773 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,680 Speaker 18: And so from an early age, I felt like I 774 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,400 Speaker 18: had lots of eyeballs on me and with that like 775 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 18: a lot of pressure, like I remember perfect oh gosh, yeah, 776 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 18: like where it was just like I had to set 777 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 18: the example right. And so what happens, though, is at 778 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,960 Speaker 18: a young age you can get way more focused on 779 00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,919 Speaker 18: like the appearance of it totally right. So I knew 780 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,400 Speaker 18: how to I could quote the right Bible versus I 781 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:28,799 Speaker 18: could if I raised my hand during the slow song 782 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,919 Speaker 18: in the worship service, like I looked the part right. 783 00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:35,360 Speaker 15: Okay, so you actually subconsciously were playing the part one 784 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 15: hundred percent. 785 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 18: Well, I even like we had this like Christian version 786 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 18: of Boy Scouts called Royal Rangers. 787 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 2: This is a very wounding moment in my life. 788 00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 18: But I would I'm not very outdoorsy at all, so 789 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 18: I was already like starting out at a disadvantage. But 790 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:53,960 Speaker 18: the troop leader every Wednesday night we would have this 791 00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 18: like boy Scouts thing Royal Rangers it was called, and 792 00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:59,359 Speaker 18: he'd be like, Okay, let's start the meeting. Matthew lead 793 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 18: us in prayer. And next Wednesday night, Matthew lead us 794 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,400 Speaker 18: in prayer. Next Wednesday night, Matthew. 795 00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 11: Lead us in prayer. 796 00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 18: Favorite well, no, I was the preacher's kid. And finally 797 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 18: one Wednesday night, I was like, how come I have 798 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 18: to pray? And it wasn't because I was against praying. 799 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:17,000 Speaker 18: I just didn't like always being called out with that pressure, right, 800 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,239 Speaker 18: And that one Wednesday night, for some reason, I refused 801 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 18: to pray and the troop leader was like trying to 802 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 18: make an He's like, you need to pray because you're 803 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 18: saying an example for the rest of us. I'll never 804 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 18: forget this moment. And I was like, like William Wallace 805 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,640 Speaker 18: in Braveheart, I was like, I'm not praying. 806 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 2: You can't make me. 807 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,640 Speaker 18: And it wasn't again and everything against God. I just 808 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,440 Speaker 18: didn't like always being singled out. And I remember getting 809 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:45,360 Speaker 18: like kicked out of Royal Rangers and sent to my 810 00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 18: dad's office. Really, but I'll say something like and this 811 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,840 Speaker 18: was a moment that led to me finding a faith 812 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 18: that was real to me and not just a family connection. 813 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,920 Speaker 18: Was my dad's response to that, because I thought I 814 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,360 Speaker 18: was in trouble and my dad was like, you know 815 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 18: he I remember he said, he said multiple times in 816 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 18: my life. He's like, look, when you look for God 817 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 18: and other people, sometimes you're going to find him because 818 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:11,280 Speaker 18: you know God, God shines through his people. But sometimes 819 00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,080 Speaker 18: you're going to be let down. Sometimes you're going to 820 00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:16,040 Speaker 18: be disappointed. And that's why your relationship with God needs 821 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,040 Speaker 18: to be between you and him, because other people are 822 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,880 Speaker 18: always going to let you down because that's what we do. 823 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:23,439 Speaker 18: Where humans were broken people, there's only one who won't 824 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 18: let you down. 825 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 2: And so I think growing up I had this. 826 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 18: There were moments where I was like I saw how 827 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 18: church people acted and I was like, I don't think 828 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 18: I want. 829 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,000 Speaker 15: Anything to do with this, no, because there is like 830 00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 15: that's the other problem is there is so much like, 831 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,359 Speaker 15: oh I don't like that. 832 00:40:35,440 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 18: So you call yourself this, but then you treat my 833 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 18: family this way or whatever, you know, And I just 834 00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 18: I really credit my mom and my dad for keeping 835 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:49,000 Speaker 18: like their son's heart like soft and not hardened. But really, 836 00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:51,279 Speaker 18: I think for a long time I just was like, 837 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 18: I'm in the family business. I think, you know, if 838 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 18: my faith was more of a familial thing, like a 839 00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:01,640 Speaker 18: family business connection. It wasn't until I went to college 840 00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 18: for my freshman year of college, like for the first time, 841 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:08,160 Speaker 18: nobody on that campus knew me as. 842 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 2: The preacher's kid. 843 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,200 Speaker 18: And yet I still find myself like showing up at 844 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,640 Speaker 18: church on Sunday morning, no matter what I was doing 845 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 18: Saturday night, and like I remember finding my way to go, 846 00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 18: like this needs to be real to me. And so 847 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:23,520 Speaker 18: that that's a big part of my story of like 848 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 18: getting down beneath the surface and not like being so 849 00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,719 Speaker 18: focused on because that skill can serve you well. 850 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:31,560 Speaker 2: Even now with my. 851 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,280 Speaker 18: Career, like I can act like I've got it all together. 852 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,040 Speaker 18: I think that's why I write a lot of songs 853 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 18: about that, Like I love it. 854 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,799 Speaker 11: Hello my name is. That's like one of your biggest. 855 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:41,719 Speaker 18: Ones ever, Right, Yeah, that was a and that's a 856 00:41:41,719 --> 00:41:44,000 Speaker 18: big song about just identity. 857 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,319 Speaker 15: Like around all the things that we're ashamed that we are, 858 00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 15: like regret and all the emotions that are embarrassing to 859 00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:51,320 Speaker 15: admit talk. 860 00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 18: About a story that like wondering if your story matters. 861 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,960 Speaker 18: A lot of my songs are written by people's inspired 862 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,839 Speaker 18: by people's stories. So like when you say that song, 863 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,600 Speaker 18: I see the face of a guy named Jordan in Kentucky. 864 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:04,600 Speaker 2: Who wrote his story to me. 865 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 18: And I get people sending me their stories all the time, 866 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,439 Speaker 18: and they start by saying, I don't know if God 867 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 18: could ever use my story. And what I love about 868 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 18: that is like I feel like God has shown me 869 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 18: that he's in the junk yard business, Like he takes 870 00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 18: the junk yards of our lives and then turns it 871 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,000 Speaker 18: in Have you ever seen like people take trash and 872 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,760 Speaker 18: turn it into treasure like this crazy artwork or whatever. 873 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:27,719 Speaker 18: I feel like God does that with our stories. And 874 00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 18: so that was a guy who was an All American 875 00:42:30,239 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 18: athlete who got hooked on oxy and drug addiction just 876 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,759 Speaker 18: spiraled his life out of control. But he went to 877 00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:40,360 Speaker 18: a recovery program, did the hard work, and like years 878 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 18: later he's a basketball coach and teacher and husband and father. 879 00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,440 Speaker 18: And that he inspired me to write that song Hello 880 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,640 Speaker 18: my Name Is because it's all about like I am 881 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 18: not my past. I'm not who the enemy says I was. 882 00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,480 Speaker 18: I'm not who my little town in Kentucky says I am. 883 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 18: Like I am who God says I am. And that's 884 00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 18: all that matters, so talk about every single story is 885 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 18: worth being told. 886 00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: Thanks for checking out the Sunday Sampler. 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