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Speaker 1: playing the new cycle. She's producing a new tape every day.

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Speaker 1: And that's why I is actually kind of brilliant that

424
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Speaker 1: she's leaking it like to every to all different networks

425
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Speaker 1: to equal opportunity. She's spreading the well she gives one

426
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Speaker 1: tape to NBC another tape because guess what good's good?

427
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Speaker 1: And you know what I think, title title up Omarosa

428
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Speaker 1: ORMSA episode, Omarosa story. She's bad. But here's the thing, Like,

429
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Speaker 1: here's another issue I have with the media, just the

430
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Speaker 1: mislabeling of things, like like again on CBS News today,

431
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Speaker 1: it was such a bad interview guys, like across the board,

432
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Speaker 1: Gai Gail. Really, she really dropped the ball here. I'm

433
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Speaker 1: really disappointed in gayl Like I'm telling you what I'll

434
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Speaker 1: say it from. Yeah, yeah, girl's breaking my heart. I

435
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Speaker 1: was like, for me, now, get Oprah is Gail's best friend? Again,

436
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Speaker 1: Oprah is not I mean Gail. Did I say that right?

437
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Speaker 1: Gail is Oprah's best friend? Yeah, that's what she is

438
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Speaker 1: to me. Now, wow, she's in the woods to she's

439
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Speaker 1: camping to me right now, because because because she has

440
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Speaker 1: the opportunity, she had an opportunity to not be like

441
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 1: the rest of them, because she are you talking about Gail?

442
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:09,360
Speaker 1: Gail is like all the rest of the gal It's

443
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Speaker 1: like parental levels of disappointed. Yeah, I'm disappointed because I

444
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Speaker 1: just want, I want, I expect better from these people

445
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,560
Speaker 1: because like you have, I know, but it is also

446
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Speaker 1: a thing where it's like, I love Gail, but she

447
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Speaker 1: is like an older black aunt to me in the

448
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: sense of there still are these like morality rules and like,

449
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Speaker 1: and so it's like and also she is Oprah's best friend,

450
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: but like there, you know, I feel like there's like

451
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Speaker 1: a weird morality to it, as you know, probably I

452
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Speaker 1: just don't understand how you can hear that question coming

453
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Speaker 1: out of your own mouth and not be like, am

454
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Speaker 1: I being reductive and not being a resounding yes for

455
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Speaker 1: her to accuse a morosa of adultery like or of

456
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: whatever whatever act and that having like some sort of impact. No, not,

457
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Speaker 1: who cares if she donald? And literally it doesn't matter

458
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: because the president used the N word again. Focus, this

459
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Speaker 1: is not she look. And then another thing is she's

460
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: just trying to sell a book. Yeah, she wants people

461
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Speaker 1: to read the book. Everyone who writes a book wants

462
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Speaker 1: to read the book. What everyone does? Everyone who's everyone

463
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Speaker 1: who's I'm writing a book, but no one reads I'm

464
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Speaker 1: going on the news, but don't read my book. And

465
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Speaker 1: it's just such a such a first thought, simple stupid,

466
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Speaker 1: boring thing to say, Yes, very boring Okay, um, let's

467
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 1: just let's let's that's just switched gears and we really say.

468
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: The reason I wanted this to come out is because

469
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,760
Speaker 1: you don't know what's going to come out. Like wrapping

470
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:51,000
Speaker 1: the mic. I want you all to to see in

471
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 1: your mind, this is a topical episode of lost cultures.

472
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,040
Speaker 1: Does you must listen to this today because because this

473
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: look that tape exists and I believe it, and you know,

474
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: to drop it in. Well, she ain't going too she

475
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 1: doesn't have that one, but she's got she's got I

476
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 1: know she's got more. Yeah, well she says she has more.

477
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 1: And at this point, well she has the one with

478
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: the call with all with the other women where they

479
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: that came out today, where they can you summarize it? Yes?

480
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:15,479
Speaker 1: Do you? Did you hear about this? I did not

481
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 1: hear about this. So Katrina Pearson, who was his campaign

482
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Speaker 1: spokeswoman or whatever, um like his publicist, got a messy

483
00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: looking woman was out there, was out there and was

484
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 1: out there, was out there three days ago or whatever,

485
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: being like there there is no tape. We never discussed

486
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: there being a tape. I unequivocally deny that Donald Trump

487
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: ever said anything like this I'm paraphrasing, but she was

488
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: out there being like, omar Rossa's ridiculous, etcetera, etcetera. Today

489
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: omar Rossa dropped the receipt Katrina Parson on the tape,

490
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: being like, he said it, he's embarrassed, and then the

491
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: other woman being like, yeah, we should try to find

492
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,960
Speaker 1: a way to spin it, and also we should definitely

493
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: try to get a copy of it. She's good. Save

494
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 1: my girl had her by pen in the in the

495
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Speaker 1: situation room service. I'll imagine it. It's a big old

496
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Speaker 1: pen too, not even a slow one telling you she's

497
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,720
Speaker 1: she's with she's with the Kelly, she's with the Sarah's,

498
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 1: she's with the Katrina. She's infiltrated, infiltrated. The circle is

499
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: I'll say it again, it's not nice, but it is true.

500
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: All these women, the evil is sucking them dry and

501
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:32,880
Speaker 1: looking good edges laid, dark circles, gold and honestly doing

502
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 1: all her interviews in a bold yellow color. I love

503
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: the look. She looks very good, bright lip. She said hello,

504
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: I'm here, and look. It doesn't it's not ascounting superficial

505
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: as us saying that on TV. You don't you want

506
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: to look as best as you can distract from the truth,

507
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:53,480
Speaker 1: looks good on the body, the face. Honestly, it was

508
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Speaker 1: she and we also should say, to be fair, we're

509
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: exalting her right now for for seeing the light, but

510
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 1: she did turn her back on the community. Acted at

511
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Speaker 1: her core is a self interested person, but that she's

512
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Speaker 1: also I'm sorry, I unfortunately she is. Okay, I will.

513
00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: What we've arrived at, what we can all agree on

514
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: is that in some way he has met his match

515
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Speaker 1: in her. He created her, and she she molded herself

516
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Speaker 1: after him. She's not shy about saying that. She said

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Speaker 1: she wanted to be a billionaire. She was born in

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Speaker 1: the projects. I believe she said, I want to make

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Speaker 1: something of myself. I went to go learn to do

520
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Speaker 1: that from a billionaire. I became his friend, He became

521
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Speaker 1: my mentor. He taught me everything I know. Now I'm

522
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Speaker 1: going to show everyone that I am ready to step

523
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: outside of his though. It's it's like it's truly like chilling.

524
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Speaker 1: It just like and like impressive and scary like, but

525
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: it really is. It's like she saw that trajectory, like

526
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: she saw that path and she was like, yeah, there's

527
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,560
Speaker 1: no choice for me. But too. But then she was

528
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Speaker 1: also like whatever she was, also she was also smart

529
00:31:04,400 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 1: enough to see it for what it was. While she

530
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,720
Speaker 1: was in the throws of this, Yeah, I have to like, like,

531
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 1: while I'm here, still be finding ways I have to preserved.

532
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: I still have to figure out a way to like

533
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: document this in case sh it turns over. She also

534
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: was I'm sorry, but if you I tweeted this, but

535
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: if you don't understand why she took a recording device

536
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: into the room with all these like white dudes who

537
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: work for Trump, then you don't under You just don't

538
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: understand the experience of being another she was. She was

539
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 1: protecting herself. Alma Rosa. Okay, and you know what, I

540
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: might get flamed for this, but she's a code switching icon.

541
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: I don't think you're you're totally off here, Like there

542
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,560
Speaker 1: are aspects to do not flame I over this begging

543
00:31:53,640 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: you don't don't flame her. But it is that thing

544
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: where it's like she does exist as a black woman

545
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: in certain spaces and knows how to like because when

546
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: she started that Wendy interview, she was in it and

547
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 1: then all I'm here, you know, and but then it's like,

548
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: I mean she's you know, she's getting close with Michael Clark.

549
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: Don't get you know, she knows how to go to

550
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: a cookout occasionally. I'm sure her in Candaszone have had

551
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: a conversation or two. You know, listen, she she knows

552
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: how to operate in those spaces. And then she knows

553
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 1: how to go into a space with a room full

554
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 1: of white men and make, you know, and make them

555
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,520
Speaker 1: feel sort of safe enough to say the white men

556
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: thinks that they're going to say inevitably, is it for

557
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: the greater good? Absolutely not. But does she know how

558
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 1: to play the game and switch it up. Absolutely absolutely.

559
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: She's still a despicable person for enabling this perspicable it's

560
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: crude oil at the core. But I will say if

561
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: if the end of her story, at least for now,

562
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 1: is that we get a tape of Donald Trump using

563
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:07,720
Speaker 1: the M word, and it changes even some of these

564
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: people's minds, and it just puts us in a position

565
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: where and I don't even know why I'm putting hope

566
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: out into the world because I don't I also don't

567
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: want people to hear this word, you know what I mean.

568
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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear around that, And I don't.

569
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think anyone wants to hear

570
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: the word because like that like just as like you know,

571
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Speaker 1: hopeful and like, oh, people will finally see there's like

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573
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Speaker 1: But but but the thing is like when you say

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Speaker 1: I didn't say it. No, I didn't say it. And

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Speaker 1: flame that for thats Fanarrossa fan club Amarrossa merg available now.

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00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Honestly I had to and after that episode, I have

633
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 1: to mark my senses as white. Next scene up said

634
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: we're releasing this or harolding omar Wait, wait what we're

635
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: gonna sext about it today? And I could tell she

636
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,840
Speaker 1: was over it. She's just like I was. I was

637
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,760
Speaker 1: making all the points I was making on this episode,

638
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: and I stand by everything I said. But STUDY was like, yeah,

639
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: but you can't take her seriously. It's omar Rosa. And

640
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,320
Speaker 1: I was like, there are tapes. I was like, I

641
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 1: don't want to have lunch Withsa, I don't want to

642
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: hang out with omar Rosa. But you can't deny the tapes. Okay, Um,

643
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,879
Speaker 1: we have to ask you the question me ask dare

644
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: you did not say omar Rosa? What was the culture

645
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 1: that made you say culture is for me? Um, what

646
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,480
Speaker 1: was the culture that looking me the ice say the tapes? Okay,

647
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 1: we can revisit this if if you want to think

648
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: about it, No I can. I think I had the

649
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: moment um. So I grew up very Christian. So if

650
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 1: two people who listened to Larry's episode, we have very

651
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: similar We both grew up pentecostal, penta baby Pentecostal to

652
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: the stage. Okay my drag name. Um, Yeah. But I

653
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 1: grew very very religious. I was like wearing skirts. I

654
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: remember telling my mom I was not going to have

655
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: sex before marriage and she's listening. Yeah. Yeah, I like

656
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 1: just lived. I was like, my goal is to be

657
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: like a minister's wife. And so we lived a really

658
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,359
Speaker 1: devout life. And it was like a lot of vegetales

659
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,120
Speaker 1: and like McGhee and me, and like a lot of

660
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 1: wholesome family value entertainment, even like Seventh Heaven was close.

661
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,920
Speaker 1: Like we never watched like the very special episodes you

662
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 1: know sometimes, and and so it was like it was

663
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: super super devout. And when we got into high school,

664
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: we got cable and so that was like a huge

665
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: game changer, and I finally was able to understand when

666
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 1: what people were talking, like what my friends were talking about.

667
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: But the big show was Monk. It was Monk. It

668
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: was Tony Shalu. Oh my god, please unpack that. I

669
00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: was captivated by him. I was captivated by him, and

670
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: I think I always will burn like a frightening, eternal

671
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: flame for Tony Award winner Tony Shalu. But I loved

672
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: watching Monk when my parents wouldn't have the TV, Like

673
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: when my parents would stop watching the TV and like

674
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: my dad's to watch like games and stuff, it would

675
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: just like always happen to be on and it was

676
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: just like it was like so invigorating for me. It

677
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: felt very homey. It was like one of the first

678
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: shows where I was like, oh, like I get this

679
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 1: thing where you go in front of the TV and

680
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,239
Speaker 1: like like you understand, like you feel at home, like

681
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 1: you see these things that you love. And it was

682
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: and it was Monk that did it. And then after

683
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: like I tried to watch like the other like normal

684
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 1: like Dirty Rock and normal, but it was just like that,

685
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: and that was a show where I was like I

686
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: have to watch I have to watch it all. I

687
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: have to watch everything. Yeah, and I felt like so

688
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 1: seen My Monk. I love that. What do you know

689
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,439
Speaker 1: what about the show specifically like spoke to you, like, yeah,

690
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:39,760
Speaker 1: like was there an element that was so so riveting?

691
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: I just I thought it was so funny. I specifically

692
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,480
Speaker 1: there's an episode well I mean yes, but also but

693
00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:48,399
Speaker 1: also like funny, but there's a specifically an episode where

694
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: it's him and Stanley Tucci, and Stanley Tucci plays a

695
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: character actor who is going to be playing Monk in

696
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,279
Speaker 1: a feature film and there is a murder that they

697
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 1: have to saw that happens like like it's like ends

698
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: up being sort of related to the taping, but they

699
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: have to solve it, and like Stanley Tucci starts becoming

700
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 1: Monk and like trying to take over Monk's life. That's

701
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 1: pretty great, Stanley tuccik hot okay, I mean hi Ki

702
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: Zaddy Daddy all the way around, as Pat Regan says,

703
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: and this isn't even one of his catchphrases that everyone knows,

704
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:26,279
Speaker 1: but secret good body. And I think it just also

705
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,000
Speaker 1: weirdly was a show where like because they had a

706
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: lot of guests starting like fun because like I mean,

707
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 1: it's Tony Schluved folks, but it's like it ended up

708
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: being a weird gateway for me to get into other

709
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: pieces of culture as well, which is like that was

710
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:45,719
Speaker 1: a defining thing, was it because you sought out the actors? Yeah,

711
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:50,799
Speaker 1: that I liked and so and so that I'm like, oh,

712
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:53,880
Speaker 1: this guy Stanley Tucci is in Devilware's product. You check

713
00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: that out. You don't even like insane, like weird word

714
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 1: was the hub for the spokes, but it also was

715
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 1: just like it is like for the most part, very

716
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: wholesome and so it was like a weird uh yes,

717
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,440
Speaker 1: moral bridge and moral like get around the way for

718
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,440
Speaker 1: me to get into like the other like more edgy context. Yes,

719
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: I have to ask not to take the discussion away

720
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: from Monk, but let's let's we're going back to a

721
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: pre cable io. Yeah, were we connecting with the veggie

722
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,879
Speaker 1: tails and and all that stuff on like the same

723
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: well obviously not the same level, but like, was that

724
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: like all you were sort of even exposed to cold

725
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: Now I read a lot. I read a lot because

726
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: of that, I think, and so like I um so

727
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,480
Speaker 1: like one, I secretly read the Harry Potter books. Well

728
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: I wasn't allowed to, and I went behind the vacs

729
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: and I was reading those books. I think I was

730
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: a little but I also was like, no, well I

731
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: don't I won't ever actually hang out with witches. I'll

732
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 1: just read about yeah, like like sort of like in say,

733
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: like work. I feel like that was like very much

734
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:09,080
Speaker 1: a theme of just being like I'll just read about

735
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: it and understand it, like like you know, don't embody

736
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 1: it or whatever. Oh my god, I always I always went.

737
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:21,200
Speaker 1: When I first heard that kids couldn't read Harry Potter

738
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: for religious reasons, I was like, wait, what is in this?

739
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,520
Speaker 1: But then I guess I didn't understand. I remember also

740
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,239
Speaker 1: hearing about it through school and when kids are like,

741
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? And I have to be like yeah,

742
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: because all the kids were also like yeah, yeah, yeah, wow.

743
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: I forget that that's it's weird because well, so I'm

744
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 1: from Boston and so that's a very liberal, like college city,

745
00:43:47,440 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 1: forward thinking, smart place. But not to say that that

746
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: isn't you know that there are intelligent people who are

747
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: who are religious, not to say that at all, um,

748
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: but it it's like it definitely was like we just

749
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,520
Speaker 1: I just grew up. My community was like a very

750
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:06,239
Speaker 1: small pocket, and my mom was like very careful. I

751
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: just wanted to make sure I was like safe, I guess,

752
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,200
Speaker 1: so in her mind it was like, well you staying

753
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 1: at church every day? Um? Yeah? And I mean like

754
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: I still did like other outside things, and I had

755
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: other outside friends when I went to a Catholic school

756
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: because there was no like Christian Christian school, and my

757
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: parents were like, these are your friends, we have to

758
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: vet them in their parents. So did you discover that

759
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: in Catholic school the repression sort of led to acting out?

760
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: I was really very very very good I and and

761
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 1: I uh was very shy also, like I truly remember,

762
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: like when I was thirteen, I remember like talking to

763
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: the pastor's wife and being like, how did you become

764
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: a pastor's wife? Like I think I want to do

765
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: that and she was like, like she really was one

766
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,160
Speaker 1: of people, was like you have time to think about

767
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 1: but but in my mind, really I was like, I

768
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:05,680
Speaker 1: think that that's my goal and she was like, but

769
00:45:05,840 --> 00:45:07,920
Speaker 1: for like many years I was just like I like,

770
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I just I don't see anything fun and what all

771
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: you people are doing? And then like in high school

772
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: I started I joined the improv troup and I started

773
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: doing like drama and theater and I was like, oh wait,

774
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: the freaks are here. This is guy, this is fun.

775
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: So then you were just over the course of four

776
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: years like desecularized and honestly was it was like high

777
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 1: school and then like and then it was off to

778
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 1: n y U and not some like seminary. Yeah. I

779
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: applied to all schools in Massachusetts and once either very

780
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 1: close to my church or with uh sister churches nearby,

781
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,759
Speaker 1: and n y U was the only out of state

782
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:51,560
Speaker 1: school that I applied to, and that and it was

783
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: a reach. And I remember my guy in this counselor

784
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,920
Speaker 1: whose name I will not say, but she knows who

785
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: she is, was like, you know, maybe this isn't even

786
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 1: worth it, and I was like, okay, chill, chill, chill.

787
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: And then I got in and they gave me like

788
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: the most like I'm saying, amount of mining until my

789
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: parents were like, okay, I guess you have to do this. Yeah,

790
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,800
Speaker 1: And then I came to New York and I and

791
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: I still tried going to churches, like I tried for

792
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,960
Speaker 1: a really long time. But I think, like as much

793
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: as I you know, I'm very glad for the way

794
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 1: that I grew up. It was like one of the

795
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,880
Speaker 1: first places that I like learned about music and was

796
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: able to like be in Christmas plays, you know, like

797
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,879
Speaker 1: all that cool stuff. Yeah, having community, but it also

798
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 1: was like a true hub of anxiety and repression. And

799
00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,719
Speaker 1: like my goal as a woman was to like be

800
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,160
Speaker 1: by the sidelines. Like that was like what I saw

801
00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: for myself, Like like if I really am a leader,

802
00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: I'll be supporting like a man leader. Like that was

803
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: like what I wanted for myself, which is so and

804
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: so like actually being on my own for the first time,

805
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: I was able to like I realized that I could

806
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: want more for myself and yeah, yeah, is there any

807
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: interest to like want to like re explore that, like

808
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: go back to like different places of worship because like

809
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: people like like like I like, I'm like there's this

810
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: like good community of people in the comedy world who

811
00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 1: like we'll go to like a bunch and like we'll

812
00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: go and have a good time and like still like

813
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:20,480
Speaker 1: keep in touch with that side of them. Not to

814
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 1: say that like everyone who was like like I'm not

815
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,839
Speaker 1: holding myself to that standard. E there, like as someone

816
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 1: who went to church as a kid, but like I

817
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: find it interesting. Nation did you grow up I was.

818
00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: It was like okay, it was called the Colorado Evangelical

819
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: Chinese Chinese Evangelical Church of Denver, but it was like not,

820
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 1: there was no denomination. It was just like come if

821
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: you're Chinese and Jesus, yeah, well yeah, we were Roman Catholic.

822
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,839
Speaker 1: We we converted from Greek Orthodox to Roman Catholic when yeah,

823
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 1: like we had to, like my parents had to apply

824
00:47:57,239 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: because we moved houses and uh, Greek Orthodox. That's very

825
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: much my mother's side. My mother's religion growing up was

826
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 1: Greek Orthodox. My mother's father was like very Greek. Um.

827
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,800
Speaker 1: And uh. Then we were moving houses and we converted

828
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: to Roman Catholicism because there was a church by our

829
00:48:17,719 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 1: house and and I remember my parents being like it's

830
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: almost the same. And also the masses we're going to

831
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: be in English because the Greek Orthodox is in Greek Greek,

832
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,160
Speaker 1: and it was like Greek to me. I didn't know,

833
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:36,919
Speaker 1: so we'd just be sitting so Greek to me, um, um, yeah,

834
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: oh Greek to me, what is that from? But it's

835
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: from because she's a she's Greek to me to me,

836
00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: okay cool um. But yeah, we switched and I was

837
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: like this there was no connection to any church, but

838
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: we did go. Like it sounds like it was like

839
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:01,240
Speaker 1: a big part of your life. Yeah, it was pretty

840
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 1: It was pretty big for most of it. It is

841
00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: also like sometimes I do feel very weird posting videos

842
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 1: and I know that there's a swear in it and

843
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 1: like you know, like yeah, that's like embedded. And I

844
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:18,520
Speaker 1: also recently discovered a lot of my like family friends

845
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: and cousins who was very close with have like unfollowed

846
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,360
Speaker 1: me on Instagram, which I'm like, I'm not hurt by it,

847
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:26,719
Speaker 1: but it's like I can't even you can't even stick

848
00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:29,719
Speaker 1: around the videos and stuff. You don't even want to

849
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: see that content has posted maybe the only acceptable Instagram

850
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: of like a show, like list of like these are

851
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,680
Speaker 1: my shows this week? And it was and it was

852
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 1: also religious. It was just the picture of a crying girl,

853
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: yes from Jesus camps camp. And then you had the

854
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: list of shows and then your caption was hello please

855
00:49:57,160 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: it was reous um. Wait, we have to return to

856
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 1: Tony sub Oh yes, my man, your man? Now did

857
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: you propily married? I would never step in your marriage, Tony.

858
00:50:10,280 --> 00:50:12,120
Speaker 1: I really want to make that clear. My body got

859
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: so hot at the idea of I don't know a fronting.

860
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 1: Now that you know what it is, can clock the

861
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: behavior every time I see you now and I see

862
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: something weird happening? Repression there it is? Yeah, sometimes it

863
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: roars through. But wait, have you followed the career of

864
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: Mr Charlob Yeah? I love him? Do you watch Marvelous

865
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: Mrs masl I watched the first season honestly for him.

866
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: He looks good. He got the mustache is so good.

867
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: Mustache is hot. And I recently watched Big Night again

868
00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: and people haven't seen Big Night highly recommend our man

869
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 1: Stanley Tooch is also in there. So is uh former

870
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,920
Speaker 1: husband of Jennifer Lopez. Mark An into acting quite often

871
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: and he's very cute and Big Night, Big Night is lovely.

872
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,440
Speaker 1: But the mustache, it's one of the original appearances. Um

873
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:15,560
Speaker 1: so um did you happen to see? Um? It's It's

874
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: Leaving Me the musical That just one best musical this

875
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: year Ban's visits. I Love my Man, you love your man,

876
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:27,480
Speaker 1: I love my man. Did you know that? Did you

877
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 1: know that I'm actually the woman in that? No much shaddy,

878
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: that's actually me. And when whenever you whenever anyone thinks

879
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 1: of that song. I listened to that song. I want

880
00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 1: you all have to think of me singing it. And

881
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:52,120
Speaker 1: I can only imagine this like sonic. This is truly

882
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 1: what we're doing is horrific. Oh wait you, oh wait

883
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: you you were at the showlot that I was awesome.

884
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:57,319
Speaker 1: You said you just saw a straight right man. Oh yeah,

885
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:02,799
Speaker 1: you think. I thought it was fine, and it made

886
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: me sort of frustrated because I felt like the bedrock

887
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,719
Speaker 1: of everything was so cool. And I also I love

888
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 1: young Gene. She's so cool, so cool, and I have

889
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: to just admit I haven't seen any of her other works.

890
00:52:16,680 --> 00:52:20,200
Speaker 1: I've read. I've read, and she did like a cool,

891
00:52:20,480 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: weird production and made a play with some kids. But um,

892
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 1: when did you graduate? I graduated, Funny, you're seen much younger.

893
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:36,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Yeah, I hope that everyone she graduated

894
00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:40,880
Speaker 1: last last year. Oh my god, I hope that. I

895
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,279
Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. All the everyone that's driving

896
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: right now is going to run someone over with beautiful,

897
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: intelligent mind. Just have graduated in the university. Anybody, just

898
00:52:56,120 --> 00:52:59,680
Speaker 1: come and find me. I'll drop a pen. Just run me.

899
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:06,400
Speaker 1: Oh yes, Flamer, your car standing in the middle of

900
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 1: the road. What were you? What were your studies? I

901
00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 1: was studying education. I wanted to be an English teacher. UM,

902
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,080
Speaker 1: and I say wanted to as in I was like, h,

903
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,200
Speaker 1: I haven't been parents. I won't be a doctor, but

904
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: this is what I can do. And then I like, like,

905
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:27,839
Speaker 1: I secretly applied to UM. And then I studied playwriting

906
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: there in what department? Uh? And uh did a dramatic

907
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: writing I was. I went to dramatic literally not, I

908
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: has a very amalgamation of me and match. Here's what

909
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,359
Speaker 1: I will say. You are my biological father, Yes we are.

910
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:46,960
Speaker 1: I graduated from dramatic writing in wait, wait, I did

911
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: not know that at all Aboutely, what did you study TV?

912
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:53,759
Speaker 1: I studied television writing yet concentration. When you said you

913
00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:55,480
Speaker 1: were in the PROPA were in a danger bar? I

914
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 1: was not in Danger box. I was not. I was not.

915
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:03,520
Speaker 1: I was not accepted into doing box. It was a

916
00:54:03,600 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 1: Hammercats type of bit. But has either they would they should,

917
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: they should be there, they should be so lucky. I

918
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,879
Speaker 1: was a little. Yeah, I did a little. It wasn't

919
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: a little indie group. Cool. We all met truly in

920
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 1: the danger box. Happened to auditions and yeah, and it

921
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: was like, oh wait, we are all still very funny.

922
00:54:27,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: Not even I remember getting that no email and this

923
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: also is what it was. It was from Alex Song

924
00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 1: and it was the most it was like the most beautiful,

925
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,319
Speaker 1: kindest email ever. Um, and she was like so nice

926
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:46,200
Speaker 1: and like now like she's like a friend, and it

927
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:50,359
Speaker 1: was just like so like genuine, and I mean Alex

928
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 1: is amazing, but like I remember like crying in Washington

929
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: Square parts, you know, and and just being like I

930
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,080
Speaker 1: won't have community you a freshman, Yeah, that's hard and

931
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:06,160
Speaker 1: and um. And then like like an hour later, got

932
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:09,839
Speaker 1: like a text from this guy Andy Anderson Cook. Um,

933
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,719
Speaker 1: he's like a cool play right and a friend. But

934
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,640
Speaker 1: he was like I'm just cool. But he was like, hey,

935
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,879
Speaker 1: we met in these auditions, and I think that we're

936
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 1: all still really funny. We don't have to get beat

937
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: about it, Like how about we all just think out

938
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,759
Speaker 1: this thing, really do this thing. Um. Smash cut to

939
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:33,640
Speaker 1: NBC opening, like everyone everyone's singing, even though they kind

940
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: of camp like halloo, yeah, come on, everyone's like and

941
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: now with the performance of Omasharif Matt Rogers, well no,

942
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:49,320
Speaker 1: look and now I was in fucking writer's rooms in

943
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:52,239
Speaker 1: check come on. So that's that was always the goal

944
00:55:52,360 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 1: of course, graduating from dramatic writing. You want to be

945
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,799
Speaker 1: in the righteous room. Yeah yeah, I I feel very

946
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: for it to be this young and have that happen.

947
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:10,440
Speaker 1: This is the refression of apologizing and and it is

948
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: like entirely uh and like that's the thing that I

949
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,440
Speaker 1: think about and I will like weep if I think

950
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: about it too hard. But it is because of like

951
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: people like you guys, and like people in our community

952
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:26,320
Speaker 1: who who just have continued to advocate for me and

953
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,960
Speaker 1: like see me when I like I haven't even seen myself.

954
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: That's passed on from people that did that from up

955
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:36,640
Speaker 1: and like. But it's because of that like that you

956
00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,719
Speaker 1: have learned it and like and like continue to share that.

957
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: That's just like so important, baby babe. No, but like

958
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,319
Speaker 1: we are your biological fathers are so literally we only

959
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 1: do it believe it would look really bad if we

960
00:56:56,719 --> 00:57:00,399
Speaker 1: remember when you both gave birth to me. Was oh hard.

961
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,720
Speaker 1: We shared one We shared one vaginal canal so ugly honest,

962
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,840
Speaker 1: it was gross. Was just thing we didn't get. We

963
00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 1: didn't get one right up about it. They didn't know

964
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 1: not nothing split Sider said nothing about it. Splitside was sidless.

965
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: You couldn't even get him on the phone. I couldn't

966
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: even get a ten best moments of the of the

967
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: birth of io Oh my god, can you believe? Can

968
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: you best Brooklyn comedic births of the year? Please? Where

969
00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:34,320
Speaker 1: are you? No? They better make it write a write

970
00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,439
Speaker 1: up about this Omarrossa episode, because if they don't write

971
00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,400
Speaker 1: this Omarrosa episode up, I'm We've never had an episode

972
00:57:40,440 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 1: like this. We we we like got so into the

973
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 1: topicality of it, like I love it, and like we

974
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,440
Speaker 1: all have we all contributed in these compelling ways when

975
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: when I say it's an honor, like you need to

976
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: know how much I mean have me shaking If you

977
00:57:58,680 --> 00:58:00,960
Speaker 1: can't hear it, you have to be honest with you.

978
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 1: I'm very happy that you came in an enthusiastically want

979
00:58:03,640 --> 00:58:06,080
Speaker 1: at the top onmar Rosa because this kind of reminded

980
00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: me of do you remember when Big Little Lies was

981
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:10,959
Speaker 1: first breaking? We would be doing episodes and I would

982
00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 1: be like, do you watch Big Little Lies? And all

983
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: of our guests would be like, no, I haven't seen

984
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: it yet, and we'd be like I was even late

985
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:23,840
Speaker 1: to the game. I was like, I was convinced Seas

986
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: Town in the Straits of California. I want to reveal

987
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 1: that Bowen and I auditioned for a role which we

988
00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:41,720
Speaker 1: did not. Look. They gave to a go just African

989
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:45,480
Speaker 1: American model. He was. He's just like out of the here,

990
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: the beautiful and I'm like, oh, so we weren't close,

991
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: like this close because I'm your child, so obviously the

992
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: next logical stick breakdowns did not say African American honest, like,

993
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,439
Speaker 1: here's eight feet tall, gorgeous, gorgeous, and I'm like, okay,

994
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 1: so yeah, they didn't want this trash and I botched

995
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: that audition I thought I had, I thought I sound

996
00:59:09,840 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: it a good tape. I was so bummed. I mean

997
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 1: I knew, I knew we weren't booking. But there, I mean,

998
00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: there's some Reese has some dress from the scenes with

999
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,040
Speaker 1: him alone. Reese has some great no no, not, I

1000
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: mean we Renada has great. We truly can't reveal, but

1001
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: just to say, you know, when you auditioned for something,

1002
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 1: you do see the pages, and we saw some pages. Girl,

1003
00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:37,760
Speaker 1: we did not book my my. I think my most

1004
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:40,880
Speaker 1: high profile pages I've seen was a Thirteen Reasons Why

1005
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 1: I did a Thirteen Reasons Why be so good. I

1006
00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 1: think it would have been honestly, like the greatest, like uh,

1007
00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,520
Speaker 1: the funniest thing I've ever done. I mean I would

1008
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: have it would have been like a like an old

1009
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,760
Speaker 1: legend like that would have been my Andy Kaufman submission

1010
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: to be like I was on season three of Thirteen

1011
00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: Reasons Why I'm a teen with the Secret that's a

1012
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:05,960
Speaker 1: show that is contributing to make the world the worst place.

1013
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: That would have been my omar Rosa move. You know,

1014
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: you should have taped everything positive. You should have taped

1015
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 1: everything that happened on side all the producer's discussions like

1016
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,600
Speaker 1: how can we really glamorized suicide in this scene? Like

1017
01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:28,520
Speaker 1: I can, right, yeah, holding out it's like one of

1018
01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 1: those big like uh like prop pencils that you got

1019
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:34,439
Speaker 1: from like the Scholastic book fair, Like that's my spy

1020
01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 1: pack somebody somebody destroyed three feet long. Somebody described Omarros's

1021
01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:42,920
Speaker 1: recording as a talk boy, and I thought that was

1022
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,680
Speaker 1: so funny. I don't get it, Like remember those they

1023
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,120
Speaker 1: were very popular and like Harry at the Spy Times,

1024
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:52,280
Speaker 1: I love that. That's fine. This is what I do

1025
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,080
Speaker 1: imagine omar Rosa does have like and we're back to

1026
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:57,640
Speaker 1: her because that is who she is. But she does

1027
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,040
Speaker 1: have like a you know, like a three k it

1028
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:02,720
Speaker 1: in a trench coat sort of vibe. Like there are

1029
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: just like like three of like the meanest fifth grader

1030
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: are stapped on top of each other with a spy yeah,

1031
01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 1: and they're just like, um, yeah, maybe you're a bit Yeah.

1032
01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:22,960
Speaker 1: People came talking about me. Yeah, absolutely, I have an obsession.

1033
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 1: Where are we all obsessed with? Oh my god, I

1034
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: haven't I remember? No, do you guys remember when I

1035
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,640
Speaker 1: didn't stop watching on weekend Update. I'm happy you brought

1036
01:01:32,680 --> 01:01:34,600
Speaker 1: this up because I meant too earlier. My Rootolph comes

1037
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:46,040
Speaker 1: in and does bonkers off the mark. But the game

1038
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:48,360
Speaker 1: of the whole fucking thing was that things kept falling

1039
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:52,880
Speaker 1: on her head and it was the funniest thing in

1040
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:55,840
Speaker 1: the past, Like a bowling ball like fell on her

1041
01:01:55,840 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 1: ad like making contorted faces, and she the things like

1042
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 1: hit her in the head. And I think it was

1043
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:11,160
Speaker 1: Tina and Jimmy. Yeah, I would also, where's just like

1044
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: my hour of Maya Rudolph making noise? I know. I

1045
01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: think it was called the Maya and Marty Show, We'll

1046
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,680
Speaker 1: stop because I've died for her. Um, we died for her,

1047
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,560
Speaker 1: her Star Spangled banner. We watched it like three nights ago.

1048
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:31,840
Speaker 1: At any moment and just be like, oh, you are

1049
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: truly a genius icon the Omarosa of comedy. Thank you

1050
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: is Paul Thomas Anderson. This okay, and then back and

1051
01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: then we're back. I do have to I do have

1052
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 1: to say with the impression because I taped it on

1053
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: BCR watt to school. I made my eighth grade science

1054
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: teacher watch it because we were both obsessed with the Apprentice.

1055
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: But no, but fucking my rough hint ship. Yeah yeah, yeah,

1056
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:07,520
Speaker 1: Oh you were one of those kids I would talk about.

1057
01:03:07,560 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: I was one of those kids seven seventh grade. I

1058
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:11,480
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, ms Patrick, how far in

1059
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,640
Speaker 1: the Da Vinci code? Like I was so freaking obnoxious.

1060
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: But now my Rudolf waxon, we can get back to this.

1061
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: But my Rudolf foxon, and she goes, where where is she?

1062
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:23,080
Speaker 1: Where does Mr? Trump? I'd like to converse with them briefly,

1063
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:40,120
Speaker 1: like not it's we have to watch it later. Oh

1064
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,360
Speaker 1: my god, it's so good. But yes, I was very

1065
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,040
Speaker 1: obnoxious in squad. Oh my god, Yes, what was I

1066
01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: I mean, like I think we all were. Yeah, that's

1067
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: how you get to where we are. Truly a weird

1068
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,880
Speaker 1: thing is happening to me. And if you guys have

1069
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,360
Speaker 1: do you know what I'm gonna say, people from high

1070
01:03:57,360 --> 01:03:59,960
Speaker 1: school like coming in and then coming out of the

1071
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,000
Speaker 1: would work. Yeah, but also being like, hey, I'm really

1072
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: proud of you, like you're killing it in New York,

1073
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 1: Like hey dude, and I'm like, you made me set.

1074
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 1: You made me set for years. That's why this is

1075
01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 1: my personal anality now. The ultimate to become the most

1076
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:34,560
Speaker 1: powerful man. Learn it, learn it be off book by Monday.

1077
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 1: It's it's it's the ultimate revenge to become the most

1078
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: powerful man. Not in the world, in the universe, other planets.

1079
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:46,800
Speaker 1: You're on blast, they're shaking, you're in it's a shaking

1080
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: queaking in its boots. I everybody's off by Monday. I

1081
01:04:52,600 --> 01:04:56,680
Speaker 1: want Ivo van Hove stripped down. We are focusing on

1082
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: the text. We're in a white room, locked in a

1083
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:02,200
Speaker 1: glass box and we're just I'm doing an acoustic cover.

1084
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 1: I'm just pouring down the ceiling. I just want I

1085
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,040
Speaker 1: just want the text of it. I want the music.

1086
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,280
Speaker 1: Do you need a remix? I can't believe that's that

1087
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: wasn't made into like a club remix. That is that

1088
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: is the reclaiming of my time. That is the time

1089
01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:19,120
Speaker 1: in the Dusk. Oh my god. It is sort of

1090
01:05:19,160 --> 01:05:23,560
Speaker 1: in the alignment chart of like iconic black, you know,

1091
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 1: monologue like that scene as chaotic, omar Rosa is chaotic, chaotic, problematic,

1092
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,200
Speaker 1: and they're and the fourth space sort of openst neutral

1093
01:05:38,240 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: and math. That's created a new alignment. I think it's

1094
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:46,000
Speaker 1: time we have to move on too. I don't think

1095
01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,400
Speaker 1: so honey, it's time. Despite me blowing my loads on

1096
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:53,000
Speaker 1: both of my I don't think so honey, prob apparently

1097
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:55,320
Speaker 1: I mean well, I mean I just had when you

1098
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 1: just have to mention, you just have to mention. That's famous.

1099
01:05:57,480 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: So I don't think so honey. Is our segment, Yes,

1100
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 1: but take one minute to rail against something in culture

1101
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: that we're not super liking. You guys can come see

1102
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:11,800
Speaker 1: us UM at Brooklyn Bazaar on September two. It's a Saturday, September.

1103
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: We are going to be a fun I'm sorry, I

1104
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:17,120
Speaker 1: cut you off. I cut you off. I'm said sorry.

1105
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,960
Speaker 1: It's gonna be a fun Brooklyn Comedy Festival edition. Yes, yes,

1106
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: we're gonna have some old favorites back, a little bit

1107
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:25,520
Speaker 1: of a legends ball of I don't think so, honey,

1108
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:27,360
Speaker 1: and some new faces as well. So you've got to

1109
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: come out for that. It's on September at Brooklyn Bazaar,

1110
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:35,760
Speaker 1: which I just went to. John Juan a k Drag

1111
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: Pageant debut, victorious Drag Pageant debut. Everyone followed Kiko Sware

1112
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: on Instagram Season thirteen. Everyone say, um, okay, are you

1113
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:50,000
Speaker 1: saying you want to go first? I think you should

1114
01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 1: go first. Okay, all right, this is Bowen yangs I

1115
01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. His time starts now. I don't

1116
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:56,000
Speaker 1: think so honey. Movie critics that are saying crazy rich

1117
01:06:56,040 --> 01:07:00,160
Speaker 1: Asians is bad because the Asians are too rich. Who

1118
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:03,960
Speaker 1: fucking cares. I've tweeted this, and the critic that I

1119
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 1: subtweeted acknowledge my subtweet by saying I was subtweeted four

1120
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,720
Speaker 1: days ago and I'm still reeling from it. To be honest,

1121
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,680
Speaker 1: good honey, good, because I do not buy this thing

1122
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:17,400
Speaker 1: where you where you say they're problematically affluent, it's like

1123
01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: or or or or you wish that there was more

1124
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: bite or more venom to the to their affluence. It's

1125
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:28,040
Speaker 1: in the goddamnit title, honey, and the mechanisms by which

1126
01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:32,280
Speaker 1: people in Asia become wealthy might might not totally resemble

1127
01:07:32,320 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: the mechanisms at which people become rich in the West.

1128
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: You know, like, why even draw your own conclusions about this?

1129
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: You work this gorgeous magazine, You are doing fine, and

1130
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 1: yet you want this movie, the first with an Asian

1131
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: cast since since The Joy Luck Club twenty years ago,

1132
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 1: to be more be more proletariat friendly. No, queen, No.

1133
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. There's also the Vulture review was infuriating.

1134
01:07:58,880 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 1: They called it, they called a wealth Trumpian. You can't

1135
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:09,760
Speaker 1: crazy you're waiting till now to say that there's a

1136
01:08:09,800 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: problem with exorbitant wealth in films? Have you been have

1137
01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 1: you been saying it about every single black movie that's

1138
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:18,479
Speaker 1: come out? And this is my like, my thing, which

1139
01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:20,800
Speaker 1: is also why like I super empathize with it. Is

1140
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 1: just like people of color are not allowed one mediocrity

1141
01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: like if you have, you know, it has to be

1142
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 1: a masterpiece. And we're also not allowed like folly, like

1143
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 1: it has to constantly be indicting and the fact that

1144
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 1: there is a movie that's honestly i'll like a hit,

1145
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:44,120
Speaker 1: a deeply enjoyable hit, and you're and you're picking apart,

1146
01:08:44,720 --> 01:08:47,560
Speaker 1: you know, like the pieces of it. It's like fuck you,

1147
01:08:48,120 --> 01:08:51,560
Speaker 1: and you know, and these people, this one critic in

1148
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: particulars given free passes to fucking I don't know, tag

1149
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,720
Speaker 1: let's say, I don't know. Actually she didn't actually like

1150
01:08:58,800 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: that movie, but like, oh but then he compared it

1151
01:09:02,120 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: to like Succession and how that was a good example

1152
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: of and like we're out, we're out, babe, Like no, no, no, no, no,

1153
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:12,160
Speaker 1: no no, it's just you got like come on, so

1154
01:09:12,600 --> 01:09:15,080
Speaker 1: privately think that, like just like don't put it in

1155
01:09:15,160 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: your fucking widely. It's just so it's like it's irresponsible

1156
01:09:20,680 --> 01:09:23,000
Speaker 1: because it puts the it gives people a reason to

1157
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:27,600
Speaker 1: I don't anyway. Right, So this is Matt Rodgers. I

1158
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, Okay, we're good. Okay, is Matt Rogers.

1159
01:09:31,040 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I

1160
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, Savannah Guthree, you we're trying it.

1161
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: And that omar Rosa interview because you kept cutting her off,

1162
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,280
Speaker 1: and you were cutting her off. And then here's the

1163
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: thing when omar Rossa, when you give her the space

1164
01:09:48,560 --> 01:09:51,599
Speaker 1: to be like you're cutting me off? Is she says,

1165
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:54,599
Speaker 1: it's strongly and confidently. And then everyone's like, wow, omar

1166
01:09:54,640 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 1: Rosa is such a bit. And then on Megan Kelly,

1167
01:09:57,280 --> 01:10:01,120
Speaker 1: who I don't think so, honey, Megan, but she then

1168
01:10:01,280 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 1: was like, wow, did you see how the grace with

1169
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:07,880
Speaker 1: which Savannah handled that. Its first of all, you guys like,

1170
01:10:08,280 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: get over yourselves for one second. And then Megan Kelly

1171
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 1: goes and you never, like, the audience is gonna be

1172
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: with Savannah. The audience left Savannah. You never turned on

1173
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: the host. It's like, well, if the host is acting

1174
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,960
Speaker 1: in a disrespectful manner. And I think Savannah got three

1175
01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:23,280
Speaker 1: is a good journalist. I like Savanna got three, but

1176
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey this interview because she was

1177
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:29,000
Speaker 1: not being fair to the guest, and the guest was

1178
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: the one that's gonna talk. She kept cutting in with

1179
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: new questions. Watch the interview and that's one minute. Oh

1180
01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 1: I love this. I mean I watched the interview because

1181
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,920
Speaker 1: because it's it's ridiculous, like you're getting over Rosa, you

1182
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: know what you're gonna get But you as an interviewer,

1183
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: that's your guest, and you asked them a question and

1184
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 1: they start answering you, that's not your cue to ask

1185
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,599
Speaker 1: another question. Yeah, this is like when Andrea fucking Mitchell

1186
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:56,439
Speaker 1: was like hating on Michelle Wolf after the Correspondence dinner.

1187
01:10:56,760 --> 01:11:00,720
Speaker 1: Wait a minute, you guys are missing the point or

1188
01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: it's that like they really I hate when people say

1189
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,799
Speaker 1: this because I'm like, it sounds a little conspiracy theoristy,

1190
01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: but like like they sometimes you think people in the

1191
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: media really aretist all like playing for the same team. No, no, entirely,

1192
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 1: That's what I was saying with the April Ryan and

1193
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:18,960
Speaker 1: the you know, Sarah Huckaby Sanders. You know, it's like, oh, okay, cool,

1194
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: So I can't trust anything. It's like there is like

1195
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:24,760
Speaker 1: I get that when people are like, hey, what the

1196
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:28,400
Speaker 1: hell is this? Watch this? You know it's it's gross.

1197
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: But it is also like with Megan Kelly, like dog,

1198
01:11:32,439 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 1: could you could you whistle any louder? It's not a whistle?

1199
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: I mean. She also recently called Jane Fonda han and

1200
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: why Jane again, Like this is like something that just

1201
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:47,200
Speaker 1: don't don't forget Megan Kelly who said Santa Claus was white,

1202
01:11:47,880 --> 01:11:50,600
Speaker 1: and she said that factually Santa Claus was white, and

1203
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 1: then she also referred to Jesus as sure, she's a

1204
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 1: fucking idiot. No, she's and a racist, Like this is okay.

1205
01:11:58,160 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 1: This is the thing that separates the Megan Kelly's from

1206
01:11:59,960 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: the Omrosa is, honestly, is that omar Rosa has at

1207
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: least experienced some modicum of struggle in her life to

1208
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,280
Speaker 1: have the perspective to be smart enough to pull off

1209
01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:10,400
Speaker 1: all this ship and to say that and to express

1210
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:12,880
Speaker 1: that on TV. Well, luckily we're getting a Fox News

1211
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:16,960
Speaker 1: movie that's gonna star Charlie's there on as Megan. I

1212
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,760
Speaker 1: mean that actually probably should have been my I don't

1213
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: think right there. I just feel like, you know what,

1214
01:12:21,640 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 1: Nicole Kimman is also in, and I believe she's playing

1215
01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 1: Gretchen Carlson. Um. Look, look, it's just you want to like,

1216
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: I don't know. I have so many thoughts about this.

1217
01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: It could be a whole other episode. But basically what

1218
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:39,439
Speaker 1: it boils down to is it's like we've heard this story.

1219
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,920
Speaker 1: We've heard this story. We haven't heard stories about women

1220
01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:49,000
Speaker 1: who's experienced this in careers that don't get the limelight.

1221
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,360
Speaker 1: But these women are have told their stories, they have

1222
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,920
Speaker 1: the space, They get space every day to talk about this,

1223
01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: and they also are extremely politically problematic and and I

1224
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,000
Speaker 1: think it's horrible that they were sexually harassed, but the

1225
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:05,919
Speaker 1: fact of the matter is like they had a platform

1226
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:11,960
Speaker 1: dangerous and that's about, like I mean, especially if it's

1227
01:13:12,000 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 1: like Hollywood is going to be, you know, saying that

1228
01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: they're about the Meat Too movement and saying that this

1229
01:13:18,200 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: is a priority, Like where's my movie about home health

1230
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:24,640
Speaker 1: care aids who you know, who are like immigrants and

1231
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:27,760
Speaker 1: are afraid to speak out against the people that are

1232
01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:31,080
Speaker 1: abusing them, Like where is my movie about like nurses

1233
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:36,000
Speaker 1: and you know, like women who are working in factories

1234
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:38,000
Speaker 1: and you know, like can't speak about this thing like

1235
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: them empathetic. I love them both. I love Nicole Kim

1236
01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:43,560
Speaker 1: and I love Charlie's Yes, yes, yes. And I'm not

1237
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,080
Speaker 1: saying that one you know that that allievi or disintegrates

1238
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: any struggle or anything horrific, but produce a movie about

1239
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: someone else, yeah, because that makes it feel like a

1240
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:56,719
Speaker 1: vanity project totally, But that does make it feel literally

1241
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,720
Speaker 1: is a Vanity Project because well, I don't know. I

1242
01:14:00,080 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: just mean to say this in a way that's like, well,

1243
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,760
Speaker 1: these women have already had a platform to speak out

1244
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,439
Speaker 1: about this and like so many So why are we

1245
01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: retreating it? You know what I mean? Like like there's

1246
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,240
Speaker 1: a retreading it. Sorry, there's a lot of there's a

1247
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:13,680
Speaker 1: lot of stories out there that you know, women are

1248
01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: the focus of women can be the focus of And

1249
01:14:16,240 --> 01:14:18,680
Speaker 1: didn't say that Santa Claus was was just white and

1250
01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:21,479
Speaker 1: that kids should just get over it. Okay, Wow, I

1251
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: love that you went into that. I love I love that.

1252
01:14:24,400 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 1: This is one of my favorite episodes we've ever done.

1253
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: Oh like unique, Okay, I are you ready? Don't I

1254
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 1: don't think I don't think so, honey. Books, Oh my god,

1255
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:47,599
Speaker 1: reads and andys give this woman a real no, she's

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Speaker 1: off the fucking rails. Wait, this is io Debiris. I

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Speaker 1: don't think so, honey. Her time starts now. I don't

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Speaker 1: think so honey. The Romans If you have not seen

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Speaker 1: this trailer as the new Matthew Weener Project, where he

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01:15:00,200 --> 01:15:04,839
Speaker 1: takes another story about white people and finds a reason

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Speaker 1: to have a moment about white people. There's literally a

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Speaker 1: part in the trailer where the text is like booming

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Speaker 1: dramatically across the screen and it goes three continents, seven countries,

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Speaker 1: eight stories, one family, and it's like bitch, zero people

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Speaker 1: of color, Like how much can you just like not

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01:15:26,360 --> 01:15:29,439
Speaker 1: care about these stories. It's also like zeze ze ze ze,

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Speaker 1: we already have Anastasia the goodest animated project about this family.

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Speaker 1: I'm good, honey, Like, if you really want to be

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Speaker 1: about it, do something interesting, do something prescient, like if

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Speaker 1: you really are the guy who's making TV and about

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Speaker 1: it and about the zeit gey maam, when you wasted

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Speaker 1: your time, you have so much opportunity to do something

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Speaker 1: with people of color, care and do it. That's what

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Speaker 1: I read it. I'm sorry that were there two people

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Speaker 1: of color in Man? There was, and then there was

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Speaker 1: the housekeeper. Yes, there was also there was yes, Betty fires.

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Speaker 1: There was also a brief subplot where uh, one of

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Speaker 1: the guys that can't remember his names like dates a

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01:16:12,920 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: woman of color, a black woman, and they go to

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Speaker 1: her apartment for like this like party or whatever, and

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Speaker 1: she's like, I'm an activist, what are you gonna do

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Speaker 1: about it? And he's like nothing, and it's like yeah,

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Speaker 1: boom race got him. Sometimes yeah, sometimes mad I mean,

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Speaker 1: I love Madman is a show, but like there were

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01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,799
Speaker 1: some there were some like stories or threats or depictions

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Speaker 1: of things, whether you're just like wait then what was

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Speaker 1: the fucking point? I wonder why he felt the need

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Speaker 1: to to to she right, and and my sort of

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01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,840
Speaker 1: thing which might not be the actual take, but it

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01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: is often what I feel is like, obviously I want

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Speaker 1: filmmakers to tell diverse stories, and I think that should

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Speaker 1: be funded as much as possible. And I love like

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Speaker 1: white filmmakers like um, like a Sean Baker who like

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01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: works really hard to tell stories like Tangerine and like

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Speaker 1: Florida Project about people who you know, those are not

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Speaker 1: his stories, but he wants to fund and produce it

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Speaker 1: and like direct them like but so he can do it.

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Speaker 1: And also like an empathy to actually listen to people

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Speaker 1: and then use that to make like he's not just

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Speaker 1: like making it up. And then when the black people talk,

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Speaker 1: it's like don't forget you know, Like but but it's

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Speaker 1: also like, um, if you are a white person and

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01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:34,680
Speaker 1: and you don't know how to do it, and like

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01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:37,280
Speaker 1: on one hand, you don't fund it, help it get made,

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01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:39,680
Speaker 1: support it, but it's like, listen, if you just want

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Speaker 1: to make a heist movie about some white dudes, like

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01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 1: I'd rather you do that entirely, then try to stick

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Speaker 1: in like one black character who's like, hey, should we

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01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:50,800
Speaker 1: be heisting right now? And you know, and then like

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Speaker 1: you're barely touching on identity or you're like trying to

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01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,680
Speaker 1: and it's like, so you can tell. It's so facetious.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It's like Brad Pitt executive producing twelve

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01:17:59,280 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: Years of Slave, you know what I mean, like not

1314
01:18:01,240 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 1: overstepping the bound, just giving him, giving the money. We

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01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,799
Speaker 1: got to be in the hairmakeup trailer for our second

1316
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 1: but yeah, number on the call sheet Brad, Brad's walking.

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Speaker 1: Um wow, No, you're so right. Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: It's not it's not I know, it's not like entirely

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Speaker 1: the red tick. I know that there's this has been

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01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:34,640
Speaker 1: in the news though, because um Bo Burnham, Uh, I

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01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:37,400
Speaker 1: think was catching a little bit of a moment of

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01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,640
Speaker 1: heat about directing eighth Grade. What she did beautiful, The

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01:18:41,720 --> 01:18:44,479
Speaker 1: movie was outstanding, and I think that you know, and

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01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:49,080
Speaker 1: also Ms Chloe Grace Moretz was making news because she

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01:18:49,720 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: is in that movie. The Miseducation of Cameron Post about

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01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,840
Speaker 1: conversion therapist and her movie is directed by bisexual woman,

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01:18:57,320 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 1: and she came out against the movie boy Erased, which

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01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:05,639
Speaker 1: stars Lucas Hedges and when it's directed by Um escaping

1329
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 1: me right now, but it's a white man Um who

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01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: was straight, and she kind of said people shouldn't see

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01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,800
Speaker 1: that other movie because it's not directed by someone who

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Speaker 1: has this experience, which I think is like sort of

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Speaker 1: it's I can tell it's like it comes from a

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01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,000
Speaker 1: place of wanting to be woke play. I don't think

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Speaker 1: that's necessarily because it's also like you could have said

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Speaker 1: that about Tangerine, you know what. I like, it is

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01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:32,599
Speaker 1: a weird line to walk. And it's also like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm like we're talking about p T a earlier, Like

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Speaker 1: I love, like I love his movies so much, and

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Speaker 1: he is like a white guy who's often making white

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01:19:43,880 --> 01:19:47,360
Speaker 1: guy movies. But I just like very much connect with them,

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Speaker 1: you know. And I'm not saying like, oh, you can

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01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,840
Speaker 1: only support X y Z, because that's like, yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: different kinds of directors. There are those kinds of directors

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01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,560
Speaker 1: like Sofia Coppola, who prefers to make movies about a

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01:19:56,600 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 1: specific kind of person, whether she's actually like that or

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Speaker 1: just no, was the inner life of that person very well?

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Speaker 1: That could be true. And then there's people like Angle,

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you make amazing films that

1350
01:20:07,439 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: have nothing to do with him. What do you know

1351
01:20:09,160 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: about being a closeted gay man in the South? Nothing?

1352
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:16,960
Speaker 1: But he made one of the It's so yeah and

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01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 1: film history. But I wonder also, I mean, but that

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01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: is also very fascinating to me, and and just like

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01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:28,439
Speaker 1: why I'm also like, you know, like side by side

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01:20:28,479 --> 01:20:30,800
Speaker 1: to this, let's also have more creators of color and

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: queer creators because I think for Angle, and I don't

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01:20:33,320 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 1: know if this is like right, but like I think

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01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,360
Speaker 1: it might get to that thing of code switching and

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01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: like having to understand and empathize with experiences other than

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Speaker 1: yours in order to succeed and like survive in the world.

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Speaker 1: And so like I mean, part of me wonders if

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Speaker 1: if you know, it's that like it's like that ability

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01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:56,200
Speaker 1: to constantly be two shifting focus and um, I don't

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Speaker 1: just like understanding others in order to make your own

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Speaker 1: total art. And it's not always like it doesn't always

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Speaker 1: have to be a hit or whatever. The sound bite

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01:21:04,240 --> 01:21:06,160
Speaker 1: at the heart of what Kloe Grace Morette was saying

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Speaker 1: was queer voices should tell queer stories, which of course

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Speaker 1: is yeah, yeah, but I'm just saying, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: they're artists. Are also artists have imaginations, and they're creative

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Speaker 1: and they're talented, and like something like just you know,

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Speaker 1: you're literally telling people not to see it and I'm

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01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:23,559
Speaker 1: sure you haven't seen it and curious about the Disney

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01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:30,840
Speaker 1: prints sort of discourse that's happening Jungle Cruise. Yeah, to

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Speaker 1: be honest with you, I I'm not surprised. I wasn't either,

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Speaker 1: because it's Disney. I mean, like look, and also they're

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01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:43,960
Speaker 1: like that's what it was. It literally just about to say,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, it's either they pick a British guy

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01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:50,840
Speaker 1: because being British seems gay, someone Josh Cad who's like

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01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: a musical theater and like that's and that's day that day.

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01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:00,680
Speaker 1: But like you know, it's because they're I mean, guy

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01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:03,760
Speaker 1: Brandam says this beautifully on Twitter, but he's like, you know,

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01:22:03,880 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: it's true, like they have this thing about you know,

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01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:10,639
Speaker 1: it can't be too close to reality because it grosses

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01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:18,720
Speaker 1: them out. Yes, yes, wow, ummy is scary. Um you

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01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:20,519
Speaker 1: know what, we ended on an iconic note for an

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01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 1: iconic episode, and wow, we really got into it. I

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Speaker 1: think I think fan club. I think this is the

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Speaker 1: over Rosa fan club, and I think that we have

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01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 1: to go out with wait where we should say that

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Speaker 1: Io show in bad taste? Yes? Did you hear my

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Speaker 1: accent in bad taste? In bad taste? Yeah? My, my,

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Speaker 1: my fake Boster. Can you give us the give a

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Speaker 1: plug for the show in your Boston accent? Yeah? Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: you come check out in bad Tastes. You have vital

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Speaker 1: joint on the twenty three swing Throat. Get a little

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Speaker 1: Donkeys come on by. You can see a lot of

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Speaker 1: incredible comedians. We got Karen she we have the Master himself.

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Speaker 1: But when Yank coming through, we have Laura La Ramiarez,

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Speaker 1: We've got Steve Mark cal and Lucy Cotrell coming through.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just gonna be a night of heavy

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Speaker 1: hit us. H tell him, you know, tell him, I

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Speaker 1: Sentias finest right here there we go stopped at the

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Speaker 1: border of Massachusetts. Oh my god, we have to go

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Speaker 1: out with a musical version of Amerossa's speech. Oh sy ever,

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Speaker 1: don't down to be the fast, powerful man God. He

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Speaker 1: should start a band. This has been a Forever Dog

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