WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Scream and Scream Again

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind production of My

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<v Speaker 1>Heart Radio. Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. This is

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<v Speaker 1>Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick, and we have

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<v Speaker 1>a we have a weird one for you this week. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>because and this is one that is weird in so

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<v Speaker 1>many ways. Because sometimes the weird element of a weird

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<v Speaker 1>House Cinema selection it's about like a weird monster, a

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<v Speaker 1>weird character performance. Uh, this one has weirdness in its structure,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in its values, it's a it's a strange film

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<v Speaker 1>to behold. It is nineties seventies scream and Scream Again.

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<v Speaker 1>I could not tell you what this movie was about

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<v Speaker 1>until about fifteen minutes from the end. And then at

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<v Speaker 1>the end there's a twist that really does kind of

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<v Speaker 1>make sense of everything. But up until then, this is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most disjointed, confusing movies I have ever watched. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>this this movie throws you into the deep end and

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<v Speaker 1>and it and it is gonna watch and see if

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<v Speaker 1>you can swim. It's uh, you're in in a way

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<v Speaker 1>to to a major degree. This film is such an

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<v Speaker 1>immersive experience because of that, because you're it feels like

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<v Speaker 1>the guardrails are off in terms of structure. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>I I greatly enjoyed this one. It's it's one that

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<v Speaker 1>has a certain standing in the cult film status and

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<v Speaker 1>among the movie enthusiasts for its weirdness. Uh. Ebert referred

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<v Speaker 1>to this film is Goddard for the masses, though I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure I completely understand what he's saying though, or

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<v Speaker 1>think it's the best way to describe the film. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a hard one to nail down. And it's also

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<v Speaker 1>one where, if you look at the way it's promoted,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna go into this expecting, oh, it's we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>watch a horror film that has Vincent Price, Christopher Lee,

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<v Speaker 1>and Peter Cushing in it. Um, well, let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>this is about. But it's really not that. It's more

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<v Speaker 1>of a conspiracy science fiction film starring a handful of

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<v Speaker 1>lesser known actors with some cameos for the most part

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<v Speaker 1>by these three individuals. I think I can understand what

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<v Speaker 1>what he means by good art for the masses in that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess good art is like French new wave cinema, right,

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<v Speaker 1>like art films that are non traditional structures Uh, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna they're gonna ask weird existential questions. They're gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>of a different composition than the films you were used

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<v Speaker 1>to before. And this is in that tradition. You could

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<v Speaker 1>say it is structured like an art film. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't have an easy to follow linear plot like

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<v Speaker 1>you would see in a standard genre thriller, which is

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<v Speaker 1>what it sort of turns out to be in the end,

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<v Speaker 1>even though like it takes you most of the length

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie to figure that out. Yeah, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>I and I don't I don't have much familiarity with

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<v Speaker 1>with Goddard myself, but certainly when I compare this film

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<v Speaker 1>to like pure artsy cinema, pure uh psychedelic cinema, there's

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<v Speaker 1>there's almost like too much freedom in some of those

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<v Speaker 1>type ventures where it just becomes a you know, fall

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<v Speaker 1>from one weird sequence to the next. This one seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be to have an intelligent structure. This film is

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<v Speaker 1>like a slime mold making its way through a labyrinth.

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<v Speaker 1>Um you know that there's some sort of logic involved

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<v Speaker 1>in its path, or you trust that there is, but

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<v Speaker 1>you're not at sure exactly like how this thing works

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<v Speaker 1>without a brain. It's a It's a film that I

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<v Speaker 1>would compare favorably to V three Psychomania. In some regards,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really compare anything directly to Psychomania, but I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like it hits similar notes of the weird. You know. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>Another thing this film has going for it is this

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<v Speaker 1>is very much a Hollywood acid movie. Uh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a subject we covered on Stuff to Blow your Mind

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<v Speaker 1>a few years back. Yeah. The acid doesn't show up

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<v Speaker 1>until about two thirds of the way through, but then

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<v Speaker 1>it is the star of the third act. From there on,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like acid in every scene. Right. And by acid,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't mean psychedelic, we mean good old dissolving acid,

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<v Speaker 1>a big vat acid. In fact, the wonderful um of

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<v Speaker 1>a promise from the poster. The original poster for this

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<v Speaker 1>film is triple distilled horror as powerful as a vat

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<v Speaker 1>of boiling acid. Oh I'm glad they got it up

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<v Speaker 1>to a boil. Yeah, you want to boil your acid

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<v Speaker 1>from maximum uh destruction of organic tissues? Um. Without scream

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<v Speaker 1>and scream again, there would be no Batman forever. Yeah. Also,

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<v Speaker 1>this poster is pretty great because you also see a

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<v Speaker 1>body dissolving an ascid it's it's a really really tight poster.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I put it on my wall,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's it's pretty. It's pretty cool. I agree. But wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what does triple distilled horror mean? Well, most of your

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<v Speaker 1>horror movies are only um only go through a single

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<v Speaker 1>or double distillation process. Joe, this film has been triple distilled.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the crystal Skull Vodka of films. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I have no idea what this means. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's a strong promlemse. I mean, that's really I think

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<v Speaker 1>the ultimate. I love it when when a film is

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<v Speaker 1>promoted as is something well beyond anything that can be

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<v Speaker 1>tested or quantified. All right, Uh, I'm gonna go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and mention where you can where you can watch this

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<v Speaker 1>in case anyone out there has has heard the pitch

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<v Speaker 1>and they're like, well I want in on this. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you can rent or purchase this film digitally most places.

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<v Speaker 1>It's also out on DVD and Blu Ray from KL

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<v Speaker 1>Studio Classics. It's Keno Lorber. They always do a great

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<v Speaker 1>job with these. I watched it streaming myself. Yeah I

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<v Speaker 1>did too. Now I think we should issue a disclaimer

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<v Speaker 1>near the top. I guess I sort of already alluded

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<v Speaker 1>to this, but our discussion will necessarily include spoilers for

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<v Speaker 1>this movie because I think there's literally no way to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it that makes sense without spoiling the twist ending,

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<v Speaker 1>because nothing makes sense until the twist ending, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of does so, so I don't know, like

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<v Speaker 1>we we couldn't really have a coherent discussion of the

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<v Speaker 1>themes or plot of the movie without spoiling it, if

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<v Speaker 1>that makes any sense. Yeah, yeah, there's like, what can

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<v Speaker 1>you say other than I was confused by this scene?

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<v Speaker 1>And I will also advice We're about to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>some trailer audio here, but I would advise against watching

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer for this film before you go into it,

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<v Speaker 1>because ultimately that's the feeling of being lost, of not

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<v Speaker 1>knowing where you're going. I thought that was one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best payoffs of this movie. Yeah, totally, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's have to listen. She wasn't just murdered, if you

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<v Speaker 1>know what I mean. Job nobody snapped through a high

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<v Speaker 1>tensile steel He didn't look all right, Well, shall we

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<v Speaker 1>get into the people responsible for Scream and Scream again?

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<v Speaker 1>We must? We have no choice? All right, Well, let's start.

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<v Speaker 1>At the top of the director is Gordon Hessler, who

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<v Speaker 1>lived through German born director of Danish and English heritage,

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<v Speaker 1>who directed nineteen sixty nine The Oblong Box, nineteen seventies

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<v Speaker 1>Cry of the Banshee Ones, Murders in the Room Morgue,

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<v Speaker 1>and the nineteen seventy three Ray Harry Housing Extravaganza of

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<v Speaker 1>the Golden Voyage of Sinbad, which starred John Philip Law,

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<v Speaker 1>Caroline Monroe, and Tom Baker. I think Tom Baker plays

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<v Speaker 1>a sore sorrow of some kind. John Phillip Waw is

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<v Speaker 1>Sinbad um and uh, I don't remember who Carolyn Monroe

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<v Speaker 1>isn't it? But yeah, this one, like all of the

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<v Speaker 1>Ray Harry house in movies, has some excellent stop motion monsters.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how well this one passes the modern

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<v Speaker 1>cultural sensitivity test, but the stop motion effects are fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one point where Sinbad's crew seems to that they

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<v Speaker 1>fight like an animated statue that seems to be based

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<v Speaker 1>on depictions of like Hindu gods with multiple arms, and

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<v Speaker 1>these arms are all wielding swords during the fight. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they're just monsters of plenty. It's it's fantastic. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>got to see that one on the big screen at

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<v Speaker 1>a drive in theater many years ago. Let's say Gordon

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<v Speaker 1>Hessler directed a slew of things. He directed quite a

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<v Speaker 1>bit of TV episodes of such shows as The Master,

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<v Speaker 1>That's The Levan Cliff, Ninja Show, Alfred Hitchcock Presents Chips

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<v Speaker 1>and more. He also directed a nine five Ninja movie

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<v Speaker 1>titled Pray for Death, starring eighties Ninja boom um star

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<v Speaker 1>show Kasuki. I don't know this one, um, it's one

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've seen it in its entirety,

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<v Speaker 1>but it has a very memorable VHS bit of box

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<v Speaker 1>ar because it kind of looks like the Shredder from

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<v Speaker 1>Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, and he's he's staring right at you,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know that he's going to cut you with

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<v Speaker 1>sharukins and stuff. So I remember this this VHS box

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<v Speaker 1>aren't staring back at me when I was a kid. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just looked it up. Yes, the mask on his

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<v Speaker 1>helmet looks like a piece of grilling equipment. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>has sort of a metal face mask going on, very

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<v Speaker 1>very shredd Or esque. This seems like something there would

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<v Speaker 1>be an infomercial on this face mask for it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>how you see her salmon or something. So I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>seen it myself. I don't think i've seen it. Possible

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<v Speaker 1>I saw parts of it on TV at some point

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<v Speaker 1>or another. But if anyone out there is a fan,

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<v Speaker 1>let us know. All right, let's get to the writing year.

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<v Speaker 1>The screenplay was written by Christopher Wicking, who through two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and eight a British screenwriter known for, uh, some

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<v Speaker 1>of the films we listed already, We're gonna hear these

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<v Speaker 1>titles again and again. Cry of the Band, Murder in

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<v Speaker 1>the Room, Morgue, Blood from the Mummies, Tomb, Absolute Beginners.

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<v Speaker 1>In Lady Chatterley's Lover, I read that despite the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that this movie is based on a novel, a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the distinctive ideas and it actually come from the

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<v Speaker 1>screenplay adaptation. Like I think a lot of the conspiracy

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<v Speaker 1>elements that we discover at the end are actually more

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<v Speaker 1>the screenplay than the book it was based on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and the book it's based on is The Disoriented Man

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<v Speaker 1>by Peter Saxon. Now you're probably wondering, well, who's this

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<v Speaker 1>Peter Saxon guy, Well, he's nobody, he's not real it's

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<v Speaker 1>just a pen name used by various thriller authors from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen fifties through the nineteen seventies, though I've read

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<v Speaker 1>that The Disoriented Man in particular was mainly written by

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<v Speaker 1>a writer by the name of Stephen D. Francis and

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<v Speaker 1>edited by W. Howard Baker, who originated the Saxon brand

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<v Speaker 1>of pulp. Ah. So, Peter Saxon is kind of a

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<v Speaker 1>composite human built out of the parts of other humans. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say that. All right, let's get

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<v Speaker 1>into the cast on this one. But like I said earlier, though,

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<v Speaker 1>this one's kind of weird because if you went by billing,

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<v Speaker 1>you just start with Cushioning and Price and Lee. But

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<v Speaker 1>they're not really the main characters. You don't spend a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous amount of time with them for the most part,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe Price more than the other two, but not to

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<v Speaker 1>say they're not important, but they're not really the main characters.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to start with the characters that we see

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<v Speaker 1>more of in the film. All right, So first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>we have, um, we have this character name Detective Belaviere,

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<v Speaker 1>who is played by Alfred Marks, who of one through

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<v Speaker 1>a British comic actor and entertainer who, in my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty great in this is a tired, grumpy police

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<v Speaker 1>detective who has seen it all twice, is tired of

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<v Speaker 1>it all, um, and it's going to let you know

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Yes, but he's this is a great performance

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<v Speaker 1>because the character is he's this bellowing blow hard who

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<v Speaker 1>has he's just always like dropping little comments about his

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<v Speaker 1>police knowledge about what psychos are like and he um,

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<v Speaker 1>he's got a great mustache. He's good in this role. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now interesting. This is probably his best known film role,

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<v Speaker 1>but he did do a fair amount of TV and

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<v Speaker 1>also appeared in such films as Fannie Hill and Ken

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<v Speaker 1>Russell's seven film Valentino. Naming this character Belover, I thought

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<v Speaker 1>it was a great choice. It's kind of Dickensian naming, right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's one of those where the character's name just

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like their personality. Yeah, yeah, he doesn't. He bellows

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<v Speaker 1>a lot for sure. Now. The next character want to

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<v Speaker 1>mention is this Dr David Sorrel, who is I guess

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<v Speaker 1>as close to a central hero as we get in

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<v Speaker 1>this film, though I wouldn't rate him as being tremendously

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<v Speaker 1>effective at foiling evil. No. In fact, he almost seems

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<v Speaker 1>to be tempted to collaborate with the evil at the

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<v Speaker 1>very end, until he's like, wait, the person you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to dismember is somebody I've met. Yeah, he's way

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<v Speaker 1>more like you know, as as a hero in a

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<v Speaker 1>film like this. You know, it's it's courtesy to listen

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<v Speaker 1>to a villain monologue a little bit at least. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be rude not to right, of course, but

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Sorrel here, Yeah, he seems to listen a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit too much and be a little bit too eager.

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<v Speaker 1>Um He's like, no, no, yeah, absolutely, let's hear all

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Price is giving a monologue like I am

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<v Speaker 1>not evil when I build these people out of other

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<v Speaker 1>people's body parts. Uh, And Sorrel is like, no, that

0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:54.920
<v Speaker 1>sounds reasonable. Yeah, yeah, it's it's it's fun. It's so

0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.280
<v Speaker 1>this this actor, this is one of those guys that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure exactly who he looks like, but he

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<v Speaker 1>looks like body else that I've seen in many more

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<v Speaker 1>things than I think. That kind of messes with me

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit. But the actor here is Christopher Matthews. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Dates unknown as far as I could find, but active

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<v Speaker 1>from nineteen sixty three through two thousand and six, mostly

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<v Speaker 1>did TV were including roles on Dr Who, Space and

0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:22.840
<v Speaker 1>East Enders. He also appears in nineteen seventies Scars of

0:14:22.920 --> 0:14:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Dracula starring Christopher Lee and nineteen seventy one See No

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<v Speaker 1>Evil starring Mia Pharaoh. I thought it was an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>choice that he the character is technically supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>a medical examiner. I think we first meet him during

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<v Speaker 1>an autopsy scene, and I couldn't understand why he just

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<v Speaker 1>sort of becomes an assistant to the detective for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the movie, like he's going to all the

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<v Speaker 1>crime scenes. I I do love it when this happens

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<v Speaker 1>in a film, um the generally a genre film of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort, where somebody who should not be present at

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<v Speaker 1>every stage of like a homicide investigation, just it just

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<v Speaker 1>becomes baked into the investigation. They just they just hang

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<v Speaker 1>out long enough and they're just part of it. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, you know what happens here. It's taking

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<v Speaker 1>it too personal. He is he's he's taking it too

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<v Speaker 1>personal for sure. Alright, Another another person, this is probably

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<v Speaker 1>the closest thing we have to a central relatable character

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<v Speaker 1>in the film is policewoman Helen Bradford, who is frequently

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<v Speaker 1>just imperil due to the villains of the picture, but

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<v Speaker 1>is very much a likable screen presence for the most part.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say, yeah, So she plays an officer who

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<v Speaker 1>goes undercover because one of the multiple plot threads in

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<v Speaker 1>this movie is, Hey, we've got some psychotic murderer who's

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<v Speaker 1>just who's just killing women and drinking their blood. I

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<v Speaker 1>know what we need to do. We need to put

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<v Speaker 1>one of our officers undercover as a as a PARTI

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<v Speaker 1>er at a London, uh psychedelic rock club, and then

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<v Speaker 1>she will get picked up by the murderer and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll let the murderer drink her blood a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>and then eventually we'll get in there and do something

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<v Speaker 1>about it. Yeah, and Helen's like sure works through me. So.

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<v Speaker 1>Helen is played by Judy Bloom, actor Stage, screen and

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<v Speaker 1>two TV, who I think started off as a child

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<v Speaker 1>actor based on her dates on IMDb. All right, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>despite all those wonderfully villainous names on the poster, Cushing,

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<v Speaker 1>Lee and Price, Uh, it's ultimately an actor by the

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<v Speaker 1>name of Marshall Jones that really plays I think in

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<v Speaker 1>my opinion, the most frightening character in the picture. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this guy by the name of Conrats. Yes, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought this actor was also very good. He has a

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<v Speaker 1>kind of a void face, a face like a predatory

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<v Speaker 1>bird of some kind. And uh and he and he

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<v Speaker 1>uses it to great effect. He is he is much menace. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He has this, uh, this look on his face most

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie where it's it's like he just thought

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<v Speaker 1>of something funny. He could have said in the torture

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<v Speaker 1>uh inquiry that he was conducting or lier in the day. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I should have said, don't get too attached to it exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's a total total villain. But uh, Marshall Jones

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<v Speaker 1>performance here like he has a he has a real

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<v Speaker 1>physically imposing stature. Uh. You know, he looks like he

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<v Speaker 1>towers over, perhaps naturally, most of the other actors in

0:17:20.080 --> 0:17:22.480
<v Speaker 1>the in the picture. So yeah, I thought he was

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<v Speaker 1>quite good in this. Um. This particular actor lived two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and seven. Um appeared in the film's Cry of

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<v Speaker 1>the Banshee in nineteen seventy Murders in the Room or

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy one. UM, but this seems to be his

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<v Speaker 1>his biggest role. Um. If you you know, when you

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<v Speaker 1>look into the pictures he's he's been in, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the one that seems to be best remembered, and it

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<v Speaker 1>seems like the main one where he played a central villain.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that he really played this sort of

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<v Speaker 1>role in other pictures, but he excels here. He's some

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<v Speaker 1>kind of high level functionary in an unnamed easter in

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<v Speaker 1>European dictatorship. Yeah, that has this frightening trident as its icon.

0:18:07.119 --> 0:18:09.159
<v Speaker 1>Uh and and and yeah, not not a trident like

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<v Speaker 1>the like the flag of Barbados, like a scary one

0:18:13.160 --> 0:18:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that looks like a devil's pitchfork. Yeah. Well, so I

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<v Speaker 1>actually interpreted that as three arrows, but that would be

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<v Speaker 1>weird imagery because a bit of symbology of the history

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<v Speaker 1>of European politics. So the three arrows was a political

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<v Speaker 1>symbol in uh, like I think nineteen twenties thirties Germany,

0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.600
<v Speaker 1>but it was the symbol of like the social Democratic

0:18:35.720 --> 0:18:38.760
<v Speaker 1>coalition that because the three arrows I think had something

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<v Speaker 1>to do with the opposing Nazism, monarchism and communism. Okay, well,

0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:46.280
<v Speaker 1>either way it would make sense because I think and

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<v Speaker 1>I was reading that in the original novel it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be some sort of fictional German regime and

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<v Speaker 1>they made it. They went a little more vague with

0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:56.359
<v Speaker 1>it in the in the picture, which I ultimately like,

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<v Speaker 1>it feels a lot more you know, kafka esque, to

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<v Speaker 1>not have a particular name for this uh, this country.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just the h and maybe it maybe doesn't even

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<v Speaker 1>have a name, Like that's the degree of the of

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<v Speaker 1>the totalitarianism here. It's just uh, this place where the

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<v Speaker 1>trident flag or the triple arrow flag reins. All right.

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<v Speaker 1>The next major name in this movie is Michael Gothard,

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<v Speaker 1>who plays Keith Uh, the alleged vampire killer. Let's take

0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:32.000
<v Speaker 1>your standard Mick Jagger type, but then creep if I him. Yeah, yeah,

0:19:32.040 --> 0:19:35.240
<v Speaker 1>he's pretty great because he's yeah, he's he's handsome, but

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<v Speaker 1>in a dangerous way. You know, he's got that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't completely trust him, and of course we're led to

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<v Speaker 1>believe that he's killing people and uh and hunting them

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<v Speaker 1>for sport. At a discos, he has this ridiculous uh

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of way he described this shirt that he's wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a purple pirate shirt. Yeah, he's wearing like

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<v Speaker 1>a lavender shiny satin frilly shirt and he's wearing it

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<v Speaker 1>through a chase sequence that takes up the middle third

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<v Speaker 1>of the movie. So it's he's scrambling over rocks, jumping

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<v Speaker 1>through windows of abandoned buildings and driving around London running

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<v Speaker 1>cars off the road, all wearing this this purple satin shirt. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's it's a great, great performance. Um. Michael Gotthard,

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<v Speaker 1>who ninety nine through two uh, went on to be

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<v Speaker 1>known for a number of other films. This was apparently

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<v Speaker 1>one of his big breakout roles. He'd previously been in

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<v Speaker 1>some TV shows and a few films such as the

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<v Speaker 1>West German drama Michael Cole host at Dae Rebel from

0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:42.800
<v Speaker 1>nineteen sixty nine, which start David Warner. Um. But after

0:20:42.920 --> 0:20:45.879
<v Speaker 1>this he went onto some really memorable roles, including the

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<v Speaker 1>Demented Exorcist and witch Hunter Father Baret and Kin Russell's

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<v Speaker 1>The Devils from nineteen seventy one. And then he also

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<v Speaker 1>plays this, Um, I'm not sure is this a villain

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<v Speaker 1>or a Hinchman Joe from Ones for Your Eye is

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<v Speaker 1>only James Bond film. This was a late Roger Moore movie,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think he plays an assassin in it, he's

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<v Speaker 1>like a guy who Oh, now I'm afraid I'm remembering

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<v Speaker 1>this wrong. I think he's a guy who like he

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<v Speaker 1>like puts a rifle together out of a briefcase that

0:21:16.160 --> 0:21:19.000
<v Speaker 1>he carries around. Oh, that's always a good bond villain

0:21:19.080 --> 0:21:22.439
<v Speaker 1>move the character's name villain or hnchman. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>you're right. I think it's more of an assassin. Character

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<v Speaker 1>is Emil Leopold Locke. Uh. And I I've seen this movie,

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<v Speaker 1>or at least a large chunk of it, But really

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<v Speaker 1>the only thing that that really I remember from it

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<v Speaker 1>our Gothard's signature spectacles in this because uh, he has these.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh there's a curious shape to them. Uh. And apparently

0:21:45.640 --> 0:21:47.639
<v Speaker 1>he insisted on wearing them. He was like, no, no,

0:21:47.800 --> 0:21:51.720
<v Speaker 1>that this character needs something else. Um. And indeed this

0:21:51.880 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 1>is also something you see in The Devils his character

0:21:54.400 --> 0:21:57.480
<v Speaker 1>and that also has a pair of spectacles on. And

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<v Speaker 1>there's something about Michael Gothard like he's he's he's a

0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 1>great character actor. Uh. He has been in a number

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<v Speaker 1>of roles and rememberable, but these two roles that really

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<v Speaker 1>stand out are ones where he wears kind of weird glasses.

0:22:08.480 --> 0:22:10.600
<v Speaker 1>They just put him over the top. Yeah, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the Bond movie they're kind of octagons, and

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<v Speaker 1>the way he's made up for the Bond role, he looks.

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<v Speaker 1>He looks a little bit Jagger, still a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>Kinski but all creep. Yeah. Meanwhile, in um, The Devil's

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say he looks a little bit Warren Zevon, a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit klaus Kinsky, you know. But but but strong

0:22:30.760 --> 0:22:34.280
<v Speaker 1>Zevon vines here at least the just the boy the

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<v Speaker 1>character looks, not so much the way he acts the

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<v Speaker 1>glasses however, I'm I mean, I don't think it's unreasonable

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<v Speaker 1>for a seventeenth century Frenchman to potentially have spectacles of

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<v Speaker 1>some sort, But I don't think they would have looked

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<v Speaker 1>this modern and stylish. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think this is more of an artistic choice. H

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<v Speaker 1>Russell's part for The Devil's you don't you don't think this? Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this psychotic convent had a had a flower child here

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:03.520
<v Speaker 1>and there. Yeah yeah, um, but still very memorable role

0:23:03.640 --> 0:23:07.040
<v Speaker 1>for sure. Um. He he had a number of other

0:23:07.119 --> 0:23:10.240
<v Speaker 1>prominent roles. Uh. He appears in the nineteen seventies Three

0:23:10.280 --> 0:23:14.919
<v Speaker 1>Musketeers movies. He pops up in Life Force, as well

0:23:14.920 --> 0:23:18.280
<v Speaker 1>as a pair of Michael Caine movies of note, Jack

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<v Speaker 1>the Ripper in the Last Valley. His last film before

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<v Speaker 1>his untimely death was the T and T Frankenstein adaptation

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<v Speaker 1>starring Patrick Bergen and Randy Quaid as the Monster. I've

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<v Speaker 1>mentioned this film before on the show because I fondly

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:36.560
<v Speaker 1>remember watching it on T and T when I was

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<v Speaker 1>a kid. I've got to see this sometimes. You bring

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<v Speaker 1>it up every chance you get, this nest be worth it.

0:23:42.040 --> 0:23:45.080
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we've we've at least jokingly talked about doing an

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<v Speaker 1>entire month of Frankenstein movies sometimes. So who knows, Maybe

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:51.360
<v Speaker 1>we'll have to pull the trigger on that. Oh yeah,

0:23:51.480 --> 0:23:54.400
<v Speaker 1>you get Frankenstein meets the space Monster in there. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>that's Oh, that's a good one. That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>All right. Um, we're not gonna spend as much time

0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:11.119
<v Speaker 1>with these three, but yes, the three top build actors

0:24:11.200 --> 0:24:14.280
<v Speaker 1>in this are Price, Lee, and Cushing. Let's start with

0:24:14.359 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Vincent Price because he plays his character Dr. Browning, which

0:24:18.040 --> 0:24:22.199
<v Speaker 1>is probably, uh probably the most important of these three characters. Uh,

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I guess you could say, certainly, I think this is

0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the character that had maybe has the most memorable screen time.

0:24:27.720 --> 0:24:31.640
<v Speaker 1>And uh, it's it's essentially a sort of Vincent Price role.

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:35.040
<v Speaker 1>You'd expect some sort of deranged scientist or doctor, but

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:38.359
<v Speaker 1>with some fun twists that set the role apart. He

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<v Speaker 1>does a beard in this movie. Yeah, And and ultimately,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, we're talking about how he says to the

0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:49.400
<v Speaker 1>to our our doctor character. He tells him I'm not evil, um,

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:51.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, and and we kind of buy into it,

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:54.680
<v Speaker 1>like he's not acting completely evil though he's doing some

0:24:54.880 --> 0:25:00.119
<v Speaker 1>very um bizarre and um questionable things. Well yeah, mean,

0:25:00.200 --> 0:25:02.840
<v Speaker 1>he openly admits to doing a lot of murder and stuff,

0:25:02.880 --> 0:25:04.520
<v Speaker 1>but he he seems to think that it's all for

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:08.760
<v Speaker 1>the greater good. The greater good being replacing humans with

0:25:09.000 --> 0:25:14.480
<v Speaker 1>like super beings made by experimental surgeries. Yeah. Yeah. Ultimately, ultimately,

0:25:14.600 --> 0:25:19.240
<v Speaker 1>like the big reveal is that there is a secret organization,

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>multinational organization, working in the shadows to build new people

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<v Speaker 1>out of the parts of regular humans and thus create

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:31.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of super people who will continue to carry on

0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:35.399
<v Speaker 1>this conspiracy in order to make a better world. I

0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.159
<v Speaker 1>think in an earlier draft of this, we discover at

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the end that that it's actually aliens controlling the whole thing,

0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>But then that was taken out, and I'm ultimately glad

0:25:44.359 --> 0:25:46.360
<v Speaker 1>they did because if it had just been aliens, yes,

0:25:46.520 --> 0:25:50.040
<v Speaker 1>it would have maybe made more sense. But this movie

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<v Speaker 1>is so cryptic and confusing getting to the final scenes

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.720
<v Speaker 1>that I like that a lot of that mystery remains

0:25:58.119 --> 0:26:00.360
<v Speaker 1>that were left trying to ponder, like what what does

0:26:00.400 --> 0:26:02.920
<v Speaker 1>this mean? Like what is a composite person? And why

0:26:03.480 --> 0:26:05.959
<v Speaker 1>in the context of this film are they so different?

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<v Speaker 1>Why are they why do they seem to have super intelligence?

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<v Speaker 1>When we saw where the brain come came from, there's

0:26:11.480 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>no indication that you did anything to the brain and

0:26:14.119 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>combined parts of a brain. No, you were just gonna

0:26:16.200 --> 0:26:18.600
<v Speaker 1>get Judy's brain and put it in here. By the

0:26:18.640 --> 0:26:21.280
<v Speaker 1>same token, how does it make them super strong when

0:26:21.280 --> 0:26:23.600
<v Speaker 1>they're just taking one arm off of a jogger and

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 1>one arm off of a cop and putting them on

0:26:25.720 --> 0:26:28.680
<v Speaker 1>a different body, Like was it just like, oh, this

0:26:28.840 --> 0:26:31.320
<v Speaker 1>jogger happened to have the strongest arm in the world,

0:26:31.480 --> 0:26:33.760
<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna use that, you know, Like where does

0:26:33.800 --> 0:26:36.920
<v Speaker 1>the super strength come from? Yeah? Yeah, A lot of

0:26:37.000 --> 0:26:40.760
<v Speaker 1>questions remain. Now I won't I won't get into into prices,

0:26:41.000 --> 0:26:43.000
<v Speaker 1>bio too much here because we've talked about We talked

0:26:43.000 --> 0:26:46.280
<v Speaker 1>about them previously on The Abominable Doctor Fibes pricelet of

0:26:46.359 --> 0:26:50.440
<v Speaker 1>nineteen eleven. Famous for such films as The Tingler, The House,

0:26:50.520 --> 0:26:52.320
<v Speaker 1>and Honor It Hill. He also did a lot of

0:26:52.359 --> 0:26:55.879
<v Speaker 1>fun TV roles. He was on Night Gallery, he did

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.200
<v Speaker 1>The Muppet Show, and he did TV commercials for a

0:26:59.320 --> 0:27:02.640
<v Speaker 1>number of brand ends, including the No Jelly Candy Bar.

0:27:03.119 --> 0:27:05.200
<v Speaker 1>Is it now a recurring segment than any time we

0:27:05.280 --> 0:27:07.360
<v Speaker 1>do a price movie we have to review at least

0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:10.320
<v Speaker 1>one price commercial. Yes, I think it should be. It's

0:27:10.640 --> 0:27:13.880
<v Speaker 1>it's part of his legacy, and the no Jelly Candy

0:27:13.960 --> 0:27:16.720
<v Speaker 1>Bar does not disappoint. It's basically a Vincent Price talking

0:27:16.800 --> 0:27:20.040
<v Speaker 1>head commercial, like a lot of these are. But I

0:27:20.240 --> 0:27:23.119
<v Speaker 1>was really intrigued by the product here. I had to

0:27:23.240 --> 0:27:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I was reading about it on collecting candy dot com. Uh,

0:27:26.640 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>there's a post about it with a whole bunch of

0:27:28.280 --> 0:27:31.760
<v Speaker 1>images from the marketing campaign. It's a bar from the

0:27:31.840 --> 0:27:34.760
<v Speaker 1>makers of Almond Joy and Mounds that seemed to be

0:27:34.920 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it's marketing itself at a at a at a client

0:27:38.880 --> 0:27:42.480
<v Speaker 1>base that I'm not sure really existed. People who were

0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:46.040
<v Speaker 1>fed up with their being jelly in their peanut butter

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 1>theme snack bars and candy bars. They were like, why

0:27:49.640 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 1>do they keep putting jelly in here? I want one

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:54.560
<v Speaker 1>that's no jelly, that's just peanut butter. This this is

0:27:54.600 --> 0:27:57.000
<v Speaker 1>the commercial, the pitch. He holds up the bar and

0:27:57.119 --> 0:28:00.199
<v Speaker 1>he's like, if you have children, you know the they

0:28:00.359 --> 0:28:04.879
<v Speaker 1>love peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. We must dispense with

0:28:05.119 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 1>that wretched jelly. Was this a thing? I it just

0:28:11.440 --> 0:28:13.760
<v Speaker 1>seems it doesn't make much sense to me, Like, uh,

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.600
<v Speaker 1>and what are you making? I mean, I don't know,

0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.000
<v Speaker 1>like where do you Was there a jelly shortage that

0:28:21.080 --> 0:28:24.520
<v Speaker 1>made jelly really expensive at the time, Yeah, or maybe

0:28:24.600 --> 0:28:27.359
<v Speaker 1>like just the peanut butter lobbying group was trying to

0:28:27.520 --> 0:28:30.439
<v Speaker 1>like bad mouth the jelly group because they want more

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.360
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter on those sandwiches and not jelly. So they're

0:28:33.359 --> 0:28:35.200
<v Speaker 1>probably saying stuff like, well, you know what, jelly is

0:28:35.240 --> 0:28:38.520
<v Speaker 1>just full of sugar, unlike peanut butter. Slab it on.

0:28:40.200 --> 0:28:42.760
<v Speaker 1>They're they're making up the difference with jelly. They're they're

0:28:42.800 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>cutting into our profits. Yeah. So I don't know if

0:28:46.520 --> 0:28:49.280
<v Speaker 1>anyone I have no moment I think this was this

0:28:49.440 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>is a bar that was well done as a product

0:28:51.960 --> 0:28:54.160
<v Speaker 1>by the time I was born. So if anyone out

0:28:54.200 --> 0:28:58.040
<v Speaker 1>there remembers the No Jelly Candy bar and can tell

0:28:58.120 --> 0:29:01.000
<v Speaker 1>us what it was like, let us know that. Again.

0:29:01.080 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>This collecting Candy dot Com blog post on it's pretty

0:29:04.120 --> 0:29:07.360
<v Speaker 1>interesting because there's all sorts of strange promotional material, including

0:29:07.440 --> 0:29:09.560
<v Speaker 1>a what is it like yes to Nixon, no to

0:29:09.720 --> 0:29:17.280
<v Speaker 1>jelly pan that one would wear? Wow. Uh So, based

0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:21.520
<v Speaker 1>on my extensive deep research on the No Jelly Candy Bar,

0:29:22.560 --> 0:29:25.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't think that it was actually just straight up

0:29:25.400 --> 0:29:27.680
<v Speaker 1>peanut butter in that candy bar. I think it was

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:32.320
<v Speaker 1>more like what you would get inside of a Reese's cup. Okay,

0:29:32.800 --> 0:29:34.840
<v Speaker 1>so sort of like I don't know what you call

0:29:34.920 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>that Pete candy peanut butter stuff. At any rate, it's

0:29:38.800 --> 0:29:41.920
<v Speaker 1>a mystery. I'm not entirely convinced that the No Jelly

0:29:41.960 --> 0:29:46.240
<v Speaker 1>Candy bar isn't actually part of the composite uh conspiracy

0:29:46.440 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 1>that is uh that is described in this film. Alright,

0:29:50.520 --> 0:29:56.280
<v Speaker 1>moving on Christopher Lee who lived in this as well. Um,

0:29:56.680 --> 0:29:59.040
<v Speaker 1>obviously we've talked about Christopher Lee on the show before.

0:29:59.240 --> 0:30:02.440
<v Speaker 1>This is Dracula, This is Saramon, This is Count Dooku. Uh.

0:30:02.960 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>This is a guy who's in a ton of Hammer

0:30:05.120 --> 0:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>horror movies, and in this film he plays a mysterious

0:30:09.320 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 1>UK government official. I think Christopher Lee's plotline was the

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>most confusing of all of them to me until towards

0:30:16.960 --> 0:30:20.880
<v Speaker 1>the end. Yeah. Yeah, but it all comes together. Uh,

0:30:21.080 --> 0:30:22.960
<v Speaker 1>And I would say little he's good in this. This

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:26.880
<v Speaker 1>is a role that plays to his strengths. Yeah, calm confidence.

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 1>He's not quite as as there's not as much twinkle

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>in the eye as he is when he's Lord's Summer Isle,

0:30:33.640 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>but it's a similar kind of thing he is. He

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:40.160
<v Speaker 1>is overseeing some kind of secret process of depravity with

0:30:40.360 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>great jollity. Yes. And then finally we have Peter Cushing,

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:50.120
<v Speaker 1>who often through and he plays a major Heinrich Benedict. Uh.

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.520
<v Speaker 1>This is a small but fun role where he plays

0:30:53.680 --> 0:31:00.720
<v Speaker 1>a higher ranking intelligence operative in that strange European trident country. Um.

0:31:02.160 --> 0:31:05.080
<v Speaker 1>We we've profiled Cushing at greater depth in the past,

0:31:05.160 --> 0:31:07.800
<v Speaker 1>I believe in our shock Waves episode. But yeah, another

0:31:08.000 --> 0:31:12.080
<v Speaker 1>another horror legend. This is uh Dr Frankenstein. This is

0:31:12.200 --> 0:31:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Grand mof Tar Tarkan. Um. He has no scenes with

0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:20.120
<v Speaker 1>Lee or Price in the film. Uh, he's he's tightly

0:31:20.200 --> 0:31:24.320
<v Speaker 1>contained within this uh, this mysterious European country. It's pretty

0:31:24.400 --> 0:31:27.120
<v Speaker 1>much just a cameo and it's it's one of a

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:32.960
<v Speaker 1>series of scenes where Marshall Jones, the Conrads character, just

0:31:33.160 --> 0:31:35.680
<v Speaker 1>kills his boss. I think this happens like three different

0:31:35.760 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 1>times in the movie. He goes into a meeting with

0:31:38.080 --> 0:31:42.360
<v Speaker 1>his boss and then within minutes that boss is dead. Yeah. Yeah,

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.160
<v Speaker 1>he has a he has a signature move which will

0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:48.000
<v Speaker 1>describe here shortly. Um, a couple of quick, fun and

0:31:48.120 --> 0:31:51.240
<v Speaker 1>useless facts here. This is one of only three films

0:31:51.360 --> 0:31:54.600
<v Speaker 1>to feature both Price and Lee. It's one of only

0:31:54.680 --> 0:31:58.840
<v Speaker 1>four films to feature Cushing and Price. Lee and Cushing

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:02.440
<v Speaker 1>appeared in the same film and estimated twenty four times. However,

0:32:02.600 --> 0:32:05.920
<v Speaker 1>going back as far as Laurence Olivier's adaptation of Hamlet,

0:32:06.360 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 1>in which Cushing played Ostrich and Lee played a palace

0:32:09.320 --> 0:32:12.120
<v Speaker 1>guard in an uncredited role, and I believe the only

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>other film to feature all three of these gentlemen was

0:32:15.040 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 1>House of Long Shadows from three, which also has John

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:20.920
<v Speaker 1>Carradeine in it to boot, but doesn't every movie I

0:32:20.920 --> 0:32:26.440
<v Speaker 1>have John Krradeine in it I'm sure in this alright,

0:32:26.520 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's let's get to the music, because the music is

0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:31.360
<v Speaker 1>worth worth talking about. Um not, I have to say

0:32:31.440 --> 0:32:34.000
<v Speaker 1>not so much. The score. Uh. The score is by

0:32:34.280 --> 0:32:37.880
<v Speaker 1>David Whittaker, who lived one through two thousand and twelve

0:32:37.920 --> 0:32:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and English composer who scored such films as Dr Jackal

0:32:40.920 --> 0:32:44.240
<v Speaker 1>and Sister Hyde, Vampire Circus, and The Sword and the Sorcerer.

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 1>It's an it's a perfectly acceptable score. I can't say

0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:51.240
<v Speaker 1>anything too bad about it. But also I've already forgotten

0:32:51.360 --> 0:32:53.240
<v Speaker 1>most of it. I don't know. The music kind of

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:56.720
<v Speaker 1>made an impression on me, and not just the rock music,

0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 1>which I know you're about to get to, but the

0:32:58.440 --> 0:33:02.719
<v Speaker 1>background music kind of works because of the it heightens

0:33:02.800 --> 0:33:06.800
<v Speaker 1>the absurdity of the movie. Like there is a scene

0:33:06.840 --> 0:33:09.800
<v Speaker 1>where character wakes up to find like parts of his

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 1>body have been cut off, and it's not giving you,

0:33:13.120 --> 0:33:17.880
<v Speaker 1>like you know, minor chord music stings, the scary orchestral music. Instead,

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.239
<v Speaker 1>it's groovy lounge music just chugging along during that part.

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:25.920
<v Speaker 1>Doom doom, doom, doom, doom, doom doom. Yeah. Yeah, I

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:29.880
<v Speaker 1>I than it does work to establish a groovy late

0:33:30.000 --> 0:33:34.360
<v Speaker 1>sixties nineteen seventy kind of tone, I guess. But speaking

0:33:34.440 --> 0:33:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of which, let's get to the theme music. Yes, this

0:33:37.080 --> 0:33:40.120
<v Speaker 1>is one of those those delicious movies that has a

0:33:40.280 --> 0:33:45.040
<v Speaker 1>theme song in which somebody sings the title of the song. Uh,

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:49.800
<v Speaker 1>this is Scream and Scream again performed by the amen corner.

0:33:50.200 --> 0:33:54.360
<v Speaker 1>This is Welsh garage psych at its best. Yeah, this

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.640
<v Speaker 1>is a group. I had to look about. Their only

0:33:56.680 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 1>active from nineteen sixty six through nineteen sixty nine, so

0:34:00.200 --> 0:34:02.080
<v Speaker 1>this movie may have may have done it. This could

0:34:02.120 --> 0:34:04.320
<v Speaker 1>have been what did the group in as far as

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:08.440
<v Speaker 1>I know. But uh, they also appear in the movie.

0:34:08.560 --> 0:34:11.520
<v Speaker 1>You see them in the nightclub performing this song while

0:34:11.560 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>our Vampire Killers stalking about. And uh, the two individuals

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>of note in it, Uh, that's Andy Fairweather Low as

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:22.920
<v Speaker 1>the front man, a Welsh guitarist who went on to

0:34:23.000 --> 0:34:25.480
<v Speaker 1>tour with the likes of Roger Waters and Eric Clapton.

0:34:25.840 --> 0:34:29.800
<v Speaker 1>And then the keyboard player is Welsh Welsh musician Blue

0:34:29.880 --> 0:34:33.720
<v Speaker 1>Weaver born seven and he's worked as a session player

0:34:33.800 --> 0:34:36.000
<v Speaker 1>for the likes of The b Gs and The Pet

0:34:36.080 --> 0:34:39.279
<v Speaker 1>Shop Boys over the years. Wow, it's so kind of neat. Uh.

0:34:39.760 --> 0:34:42.640
<v Speaker 1>If possible, we'll have to clear this with seth. It'd

0:34:42.680 --> 0:34:44.120
<v Speaker 1>be nice to hear just a little bit of this,

0:34:44.320 --> 0:35:03.000
<v Speaker 1>uh this groovy bit of theme music. All right, let's

0:35:03.000 --> 0:35:05.719
<v Speaker 1>get into the plot of this. Let's let's tightly summarize

0:35:05.760 --> 0:35:09.040
<v Speaker 1>the plot to Scream and Scream Again. That is not possible.

0:35:09.719 --> 0:35:12.080
<v Speaker 1>There is no way to really explain the plot of

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Scream and Scream Again. You just need to watch the movie.

0:35:14.560 --> 0:35:17.840
<v Speaker 1>So instead, I suggest let's talk about some things that

0:35:18.000 --> 0:35:22.000
<v Speaker 1>happen in the movie. Uh So, the first thing we see,

0:35:22.120 --> 0:35:24.440
<v Speaker 1>we we pull up on is this supposed to be

0:35:24.520 --> 0:35:27.399
<v Speaker 1>in London at somewhere in England. See we see red

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:31.399
<v Speaker 1>double decker buses with ads for Crisp apples on them.

0:35:31.520 --> 0:35:34.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, it is London, because we see London transit

0:35:34.160 --> 0:35:36.720
<v Speaker 1>on the side of the bus, and we see a jogger.

0:35:37.320 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 1>I think get off one of the busses. Yeah. Yeah.

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:44.120
<v Speaker 1>One of the first confusing things in the movie is

0:35:44.200 --> 0:35:47.080
<v Speaker 1>here's this jogger and they freeze framing and then they

0:35:47.239 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>put up starring Vincent Price, and I'm like, that's not

0:35:50.280 --> 0:35:54.439
<v Speaker 1>Vincent Price. What are you doing? Movie? That's great? Yeah,

0:35:54.920 --> 0:35:57.160
<v Speaker 1>it's not Vincent Price at all. It's a young guy

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 1>who has a face that kind of looks like George C. Scott,

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:03.680
<v Speaker 1>you know, he always looks like he's about to go. Yeah.

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Um uh Mr President, Uh No, it's just a jogger

0:36:09.280 --> 0:36:13.360
<v Speaker 1>wearing a tank top and and some short orange shorts

0:36:13.960 --> 0:36:16.440
<v Speaker 1>and he's jogging in a I don't know if you've

0:36:16.440 --> 0:36:18.959
<v Speaker 1>got the same energy off this rob but he looks

0:36:19.000 --> 0:36:23.839
<v Speaker 1>to me very uncomfortable and distressed throughout his entire jog. Yeah,

0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I guess he does. But then he's running around, he

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.560
<v Speaker 1>runs through a field, he collapses, and then we cut

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to a totally different place. He wakes up and he's like,

0:36:33.360 --> 0:36:36.600
<v Speaker 1>where am I? And he's in a hospital bed and

0:36:37.080 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>uh so he's laying there. He seems to be thirsty.

0:36:40.200 --> 0:36:43.760
<v Speaker 1>A nurse comes in. She gives him like a tube

0:36:43.840 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 1>of water to drink, and then he pulls back the

0:36:47.680 --> 0:36:51.200
<v Speaker 1>blankets on his hospital bed. After the nurse leaves, and

0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 1>he realizes that his leg is missing, and he screams. So,

0:36:55.320 --> 0:36:57.320
<v Speaker 1>I guess this is the first scream of scream and

0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>scream again, because he will scream many more times. Yeah.

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:02.719
<v Speaker 1>It appears that his leg has been surgically removed in

0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:06.360
<v Speaker 1>this operating theater where he's being helped and so this

0:37:06.480 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 1>scene will be repeated almost exactly like four more times

0:37:10.080 --> 0:37:12.080
<v Speaker 1>because we just come back and see all of his

0:37:12.200 --> 0:37:16.320
<v Speaker 1>various body parts disappear and then he screams. Then, seemingly

0:37:16.440 --> 0:37:19.400
<v Speaker 1>unrelated to this, there is this other plot taking place

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:22.920
<v Speaker 1>in this country where there's some kind of totalitarian symbology

0:37:23.000 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>all around these tridents or arrows. This is with Marshall Jones.

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:31.560
<v Speaker 1>He's wearing kind of a military uniform and he's taking me.

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:35.080
<v Speaker 1>I honestly, I had trouble following what was happening in

0:37:35.320 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 1>this subplot. It's just, you know, he goes around. He'll

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:40.800
<v Speaker 1>take a meeting with some kind of other government official,

0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>and they'll talk about oh, you know these uh some

0:37:43.280 --> 0:37:47.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of military hardware or some kind of espionage situation,

0:37:47.719 --> 0:37:49.319
<v Speaker 1>and then at the end of the meeting, he does

0:37:49.400 --> 0:37:52.919
<v Speaker 1>the vulcan neck pinch on this other person, usually somebody

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.080
<v Speaker 1>who seems to be his boss, and then they go,

0:37:56.080 --> 0:37:59.640
<v Speaker 1>blood comes out of their mouth and they die. In retrospect,

0:38:00.000 --> 0:38:02.400
<v Speaker 1>knowing what we know by the end of the film,

0:38:02.920 --> 0:38:05.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, is he kind of maybe like working his

0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:08.359
<v Speaker 1>way up through the ranks VM, I think that's it. Yeah,

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:12.800
<v Speaker 1>I think he's like killing various bosses or rivals and

0:38:13.160 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>and becoming some kind of supreme commander within this totalitarian system.

0:38:18.800 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 1>Then also within this place where we see all these

0:38:22.880 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 1>these arrow or trident symbols. There's a scene where there's

0:38:26.760 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 1>just a guy and a lady running through a field

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:33.120
<v Speaker 1>and then they get chased down by a jeep full

0:38:33.200 --> 0:38:36.400
<v Speaker 1>of soldiers and then they get caught, and then the

0:38:36.520 --> 0:38:40.120
<v Speaker 1>guy is taken to a prison and there are there

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:44.080
<v Speaker 1>is what is implied to be like torture and interrogation. Yeah, yeah,

0:38:44.120 --> 0:38:46.680
<v Speaker 1>we're not we don't have to watch a torture scene

0:38:46.719 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>in this movie, but yes, it's heavily implied that he's

0:38:49.480 --> 0:38:53.000
<v Speaker 1>about to torture, and then afterwards he gets dressed down

0:38:53.120 --> 0:38:57.839
<v Speaker 1>for torturing. Mystery about it. He's got bosses who come

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:01.200
<v Speaker 1>to come to the Conrads character in there, like, hey,

0:39:01.320 --> 0:39:04.319
<v Speaker 1>you're using too much torture. That's just a little bit

0:39:04.480 --> 0:39:07.640
<v Speaker 1>over the line with torture. And then he's like okay,

0:39:07.760 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 1>point taken, uh, and then neck pinches them and they die. Yeah,

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 1>this is that the Peter Cushing scene. That's that's rather

0:39:13.800 --> 0:39:15.600
<v Speaker 1>nice because like there's a scene to set it up

0:39:15.640 --> 0:39:18.560
<v Speaker 1>where but then we get the we get Peter Cushing's

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:21.319
<v Speaker 1>character and Conrads together and he's like, it's like, it's

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.560
<v Speaker 1>just too much torture, my boy, we have to worry

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:27.080
<v Speaker 1>about optics with this regime. And uh, I'm sorry, you're done.

0:39:27.160 --> 0:39:29.440
<v Speaker 1>You're through through with without the door with you. And

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:33.040
<v Speaker 1>then he gets the claw and that's it for Cushing's character. Well,

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:36.040
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't have Cushing put the paperwork in motion before that meeting?

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.280
<v Speaker 1>You would think, so, yeah, well this is It becomes

0:39:39.719 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 1>more and more clear that that Conrads is perhaps a

0:39:43.239 --> 0:39:46.960
<v Speaker 1>bit rogue, right, because because at first it seems like

0:39:47.080 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>that whatever he's doing, it's entirely going to take place

0:39:49.560 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 1>within this uh, this fictional nation. But no, he eventually

0:39:53.239 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>sets uh sets Sale. That's really set Sale. How does

0:39:57.040 --> 0:39:59.320
<v Speaker 1>he travel? We don't see it. I don't think he

0:39:59.440 --> 0:40:01.640
<v Speaker 1>just suddenly shows up in London towards the end of

0:40:01.640 --> 0:40:04.360
<v Speaker 1>the movie. Yeah, he catches wind of this whole vampire

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:06.600
<v Speaker 1>killer thing and perhaps some other stuff and he's like, well,

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I gotta go there now and start clawing people. Oh oh,

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:11.680
<v Speaker 1>but okay. So this brings us to what I would

0:40:11.680 --> 0:40:14.400
<v Speaker 1>say is the dominant plot thread of the movie, The

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Vampire Killer plot. So we meet Uh, we meet Belavar,

0:40:18.800 --> 0:40:22.719
<v Speaker 1>the police inspector, and uh and several other police officers

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:27.279
<v Speaker 1>who start tracking a series of brutal murders. There are

0:40:27.800 --> 0:40:30.240
<v Speaker 1>murders in which women are being attacked by an unknown

0:40:30.280 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>assailant and he and there and they're like appear drained

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:37.120
<v Speaker 1>of all blood. So one of the first victims, it

0:40:37.239 --> 0:40:42.360
<v Speaker 1>turns out, is a is an employee of Vincent Prices,

0:40:42.480 --> 0:40:45.040
<v Speaker 1>and this leads the police to Vincent Price's house and

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:47.600
<v Speaker 1>this is the scene where we first meet him and

0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.279
<v Speaker 1>they're like, hey, what about this employee of yours? Can

0:40:50.320 --> 0:40:52.480
<v Speaker 1>you shed any light on what's going on? And he's

0:40:52.520 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like no, but don't suspect me. Does anything of consequence

0:40:58.160 --> 0:41:00.200
<v Speaker 1>happened in this first meeting or is it basically just

0:41:00.280 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>to introduce Price? Basically I just entroduce Price. Uh this Uh, nothing,

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:07.760
<v Speaker 1>nothing really happens. In fact, you kind of forget about

0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 1>it until Vincent Price just kind of pops up again

0:41:10.640 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>later and you're like, oh this character. Yeah. And then

0:41:13.560 --> 0:41:16.920
<v Speaker 1>so this is also where the medical examiner gets involved.

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Dr Serell or sorel Uh He's so he's originally in

0:41:21.040 --> 0:41:24.560
<v Speaker 1>these autopsy scenes of of the murder victims, but he

0:41:24.640 --> 0:41:27.920
<v Speaker 1>gets wrapped up in the police investigation itself and starts

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 1>being along for uh, these these chases and all this

0:41:31.480 --> 0:41:34.799
<v Speaker 1>stuff and what a chase. What a chase it is. Yeah,

0:41:34.880 --> 0:41:37.479
<v Speaker 1>so let's lead up to that because this is wow,

0:41:37.719 --> 0:41:40.600
<v Speaker 1>this movie has such a chase seed. So, because these

0:41:40.800 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>murders keep happening, the police decide, well, we're gonna set

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:48.799
<v Speaker 1>up a sting operation and we're gonna get Officer Bradford here,

0:41:48.880 --> 0:41:52.520
<v Speaker 1>Helen Bradford. She's going to pretend to just be like

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 1>a lady party in at the club, and we're going

0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.480
<v Speaker 1>to see if she gets murdered by this by the

0:41:58.560 --> 0:42:02.200
<v Speaker 1>vampire killer, which, by the way, apparently they just have

0:42:02.360 --> 0:42:05.680
<v Speaker 1>her party all night because when eventually she is picked

0:42:05.719 --> 0:42:07.960
<v Speaker 1>up by the vampire killer and they leave the club,

0:42:08.280 --> 0:42:11.160
<v Speaker 1>it's just broad daylight, like not like not like don

0:42:11.360 --> 0:42:14.200
<v Speaker 1>but it feels like it's noon exactly. Yeah, they come

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:17.560
<v Speaker 1>out and this shocked me as well. So inside I

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:20.840
<v Speaker 1>think I think that that Welsh rock group is playing

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:23.560
<v Speaker 1>or somebody like them is playing. Uh, you know, we're

0:42:23.560 --> 0:42:25.520
<v Speaker 1>getting the songs. And then they come out the door

0:42:25.760 --> 0:42:28.200
<v Speaker 1>and yeah, it's just bright sunlight. And then they get

0:42:28.360 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>into uh the vampire killer sports car. I think the

0:42:32.080 --> 0:42:35.480
<v Speaker 1>character's name is Keith, the creepy looking guy. Yeah, I don't, Yeah,

0:42:35.480 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 1>we don't. We don't find out for later. But this

0:42:37.120 --> 0:42:39.879
<v Speaker 1>is is Keith. Yeah, and we've seen him. We've seen

0:42:40.200 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 1>seen him murder other women that he had picked up

0:42:42.520 --> 0:42:45.239
<v Speaker 1>at the club before. Uh so, so we know what's

0:42:45.239 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 1>going to happen. And then the cops, of course, are

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:51.279
<v Speaker 1>bumbling du faces and they take way too long to

0:42:51.360 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 1>intervene while he is drinking Bradford's blood. But they get

0:42:55.760 --> 0:42:58.480
<v Speaker 1>there just in time. She's not killed. So they like

0:42:58.600 --> 0:43:01.480
<v Speaker 1>pull him out of the car and you think, okay,

0:43:01.520 --> 0:43:05.080
<v Speaker 1>well he's caught now, but no, something strange happens. Instead,

0:43:05.120 --> 0:43:07.200
<v Speaker 1>they get Michael Gothard out of the car and they say,

0:43:07.280 --> 0:43:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you're caught now, but he has super strength or something.

0:43:10.680 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 1>It's out of nowhere. We've seen no indication of this before. Really,

0:43:14.000 --> 0:43:16.719
<v Speaker 1>he like fights them all off and he runs away,

0:43:17.280 --> 0:43:21.040
<v Speaker 1>and this begins a chase sequence that involves driving, It

0:43:21.200 --> 0:43:26.520
<v Speaker 1>involves running, It involves hiding, It involves climbing, It involves

0:43:26.640 --> 0:43:30.840
<v Speaker 1>mountain climbing, It involves boiling yourself in acid. This is

0:43:30.920 --> 0:43:34.239
<v Speaker 1>a chase sequence that goes on for I would guess

0:43:34.400 --> 0:43:38.800
<v Speaker 1>literally twenty minutes, right, and you keep thinking it's over too, like, Okay,

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:41.600
<v Speaker 1>they got him, and then something will happen and he's

0:43:41.680 --> 0:43:44.000
<v Speaker 1>on the move again, and we just hope that all

0:43:44.080 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 1>of our police officers are able to catch their breath

0:43:46.560 --> 0:43:49.000
<v Speaker 1>a little bit before they take after him, because again,

0:43:49.360 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 1>Keith seems to have supernatural uh strength and agility and endurance.

0:43:55.640 --> 0:43:57.880
<v Speaker 1>He's able to do things that humans cannot it should

0:43:57.880 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 1>not be able to do his basically Spiderman, and a

0:43:59.600 --> 0:44:01.880
<v Speaker 1>few of these scenes and I wanted to compare this

0:44:02.160 --> 0:44:06.160
<v Speaker 1>to the fight scene between Roddy Piper and Keith David

0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:09.880
<v Speaker 1>in the John Carpenter movie They Live, which is an amazing,

0:44:10.080 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 1>hilarious scene, and this chase scene was a lot like it, because,

0:44:15.000 --> 0:44:18.200
<v Speaker 1>first of all, it's something that just mounts in uh

0:44:18.520 --> 0:44:22.200
<v Speaker 1>in in hilarious absurdity because of how long it goes on,

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.719
<v Speaker 1>but not just because of how long it goes on,

0:44:25.200 --> 0:44:29.120
<v Speaker 1>because of the fact that it repeatedly stops and you

0:44:29.239 --> 0:44:32.880
<v Speaker 1>think it's over and then it starts again, so you know,

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:35.760
<v Speaker 1>and they Live, they're they're they're like punching, punching, body

0:44:35.800 --> 0:44:38.400
<v Speaker 1>slam body slam and they stop and talk for a

0:44:38.440 --> 0:44:40.719
<v Speaker 1>minute and you're like, okay, well, what's happening now, and

0:44:40.800 --> 0:44:42.840
<v Speaker 1>then one of them will just throw another plush and

0:44:42.960 --> 0:44:46.040
<v Speaker 1>it starts up. This chase is exactly like this. They

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>catch him and they're like okay, and then he like

0:44:49.080 --> 0:44:50.640
<v Speaker 1>rips his own arm off to get out of the

0:44:50.719 --> 0:44:55.839
<v Speaker 1>handcuffs and runs again and again, all this broad daylight too,

0:44:56.000 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 1>which somehow adds to that absurdity because it's it feels

0:44:59.600 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>like he can't and actually get away and hide as well,

0:45:02.160 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 1>especially when they get to the scene where they've cornered

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:07.759
<v Speaker 1>him against the side of a mountain with all these

0:45:07.880 --> 0:45:11.399
<v Speaker 1>loose rocks, and he just starts taking straight his way,

0:45:11.719 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>is going straight up the mountain, kind of like Spider

0:45:13.640 --> 0:45:17.319
<v Speaker 1>Man a few times, just crazy speed, and the cops

0:45:17.360 --> 0:45:19.840
<v Speaker 1>are just watching him. And then eventually he like tires

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:22.439
<v Speaker 1>out or slips and falls all the way back down

0:45:22.520 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>the mountain again. But how does this whole chase end? Well, strangely,

0:45:28.280 --> 0:45:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gothard ends up in his in his satin purple shirt,

0:45:32.719 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>leading the cops on a chase that ends at Vincent

0:45:35.200 --> 0:45:39.640
<v Speaker 1>Price's house. Remember Vincent Price from earlier that random guy. Well, yes,

0:45:39.800 --> 0:45:43.200
<v Speaker 1>that he shows up at his house and he goes

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:46.680
<v Speaker 1>into a barn on the estate and he lifts up

0:45:46.800 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 1>like a like a you know, trap door on the

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:53.879
<v Speaker 1>ground in the floor of the barn and jumps into

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.359
<v Speaker 1>some kind of pool underneath the trap door, which turns

0:45:57.400 --> 0:45:59.520
<v Speaker 1>out to be acid. Like a cop reaches in to

0:45:59.600 --> 0:46:01.879
<v Speaker 1>try to issue out of there, and it burns his arm.

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:08.799
<v Speaker 1>So he has apparently just plunged himself into Hollywood acid, right,

0:46:09.040 --> 0:46:10.719
<v Speaker 1>and then they even mentioned it's like, well that cop

0:46:10.760 --> 0:46:12.640
<v Speaker 1>is gonna lose that arm now, so this is this

0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.840
<v Speaker 1>is powerful acid. There's no not even any attempt to

0:46:15.920 --> 0:46:19.319
<v Speaker 1>try and like fish Keith's body out of here. They're like, well,

0:46:19.680 --> 0:46:24.400
<v Speaker 1>that's it for Keith. He's gone completely gone. Ye wouldn't

0:46:24.400 --> 0:46:27.000
<v Speaker 1>they get like a metal pole or something. Yeah, Well,

0:46:27.239 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>later we see that there Vincent Price's character does have

0:46:29.880 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 1>a poll for just like shoving things down into the

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:36.400
<v Speaker 1>acid V. But that's where we go now, like suddenly

0:46:36.480 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 1>they're they're watching this, You're looking down in the yellow

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.239
<v Speaker 1>acid of V that has just dissolved, and even Keith

0:46:42.320 --> 0:46:45.360
<v Speaker 1>has just burned a police officer's arm. And then Vincent

0:46:45.400 --> 0:46:47.600
<v Speaker 1>Price just kind of wanders up behind them and that

0:46:47.680 --> 0:46:49.239
<v Speaker 1>does doesn't even say anything, he's just kind of like

0:46:51.719 --> 0:46:53.880
<v Speaker 1>and he explains it right there. They're like, well, why

0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>do you have this tub of of body dissolving acid

0:46:57.440 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>in your house? And he's like, oh, yeah, I've got

0:46:59.400 --> 0:47:03.040
<v Speaker 1>a story about the up. Yeah. Basically it's that he

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.760
<v Speaker 1>does cancer research and uh. And yet remember, folks, always

0:47:06.840 --> 0:47:11.480
<v Speaker 1>store your medical waste disposal vats of boiling acid responsibly,

0:47:12.040 --> 0:47:14.520
<v Speaker 1>preferably in a trap door in one of your outbuildings.

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>This is just standard practice. I know we have some

0:47:17.560 --> 0:47:20.680
<v Speaker 1>some researchers and doctors out there listening to the show.

0:47:20.760 --> 0:47:22.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you guys don't know how it is. You

0:47:22.400 --> 0:47:24.680
<v Speaker 1>just you gotta have a vat of boiling acid around

0:47:25.000 --> 0:47:27.640
<v Speaker 1>in case you need to dissolve any medical waste. When

0:47:27.800 --> 0:47:30.239
<v Speaker 1>your grandkids come over, you've got to remind him don't

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:34.640
<v Speaker 1>play around the acid. Yeah, no running near the acid.

0:47:35.160 --> 0:47:37.759
<v Speaker 1>So they see the the investigators seem more or less

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.640
<v Speaker 1>satisfied with this story, despite the fact that he has

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:44.640
<v Speaker 1>also linked to the location at least is linked to

0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 1>an earlier murder. Uh. And they're like, well, how do

0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.040
<v Speaker 1>you know Keith, Like how come like Keith clearly killed

0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>somebody who worked for you, and then he came back

0:47:52.040 --> 0:47:55.400
<v Speaker 1>here to throw himself into a vat of acid. Invincent

0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:58.239
<v Speaker 1>Prices characters like, well, you know the mind of the psychopath,

0:47:58.320 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>it has typically has a lot of guilt involved and

0:48:01.840 --> 0:48:05.520
<v Speaker 1>um a little very high threshold of the pain. And

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:09.280
<v Speaker 1>they're like that it checks out. Yeah, suicide by acid

0:48:09.520 --> 0:48:15.360
<v Speaker 1>matches the enormity of the crime. Oh it's good. But

0:48:15.440 --> 0:48:17.320
<v Speaker 1>oh but they're like, but we still have a clue.

0:48:17.680 --> 0:48:19.400
<v Speaker 1>We can figure out who this guy was because we

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 1>still have his hand because earlier, after he fell off

0:48:22.000 --> 0:48:24.360
<v Speaker 1>the mountain, the cops handcuffed him to a car. Then

0:48:24.440 --> 0:48:26.719
<v Speaker 1>he ripped his own hand off to escape, and they

0:48:26.760 --> 0:48:30.000
<v Speaker 1>still have the hand, right, And Vincent Brice's character is

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:32.120
<v Speaker 1>a little shocked and perhaps a little worried about this

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:35.800
<v Speaker 1>because when we hold not all of Keith was dissolved,

0:48:36.120 --> 0:48:39.520
<v Speaker 1>that's right. So they go there, the medical examiners are

0:48:39.560 --> 0:48:42.200
<v Speaker 1>looking at the hand and I didn't fully understand this

0:48:42.280 --> 0:48:44.520
<v Speaker 1>that they try to explain. They're like, the hand, it's

0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 1>not human or it's not organic. And then the cops

0:48:47.760 --> 0:48:49.680
<v Speaker 1>are like, what do you mean by that? And they say, well,

0:48:49.719 --> 0:48:53.400
<v Speaker 1>it's not exactly artificial. It's synthetic, but I didn't understand

0:48:53.440 --> 0:48:56.000
<v Speaker 1>the distinction they were making. Yeah, this didn't make a

0:48:56.040 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of sense because we later find out, yeah, that

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:01.160
<v Speaker 1>this is about repurposing of parts of making entirely new

0:49:01.239 --> 0:49:04.520
<v Speaker 1>people out of pieces harvested from other humans. There's no

0:49:04.600 --> 0:49:08.680
<v Speaker 1>indication that there are synthetic parts in the process. Or

0:49:08.760 --> 0:49:10.279
<v Speaker 1>maybe there are and they just don't tell us about it.

0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Well, anyway, someone ends up breaking into

0:49:14.239 --> 0:49:17.040
<v Speaker 1>the morgue or the police station wherever it is to

0:49:17.239 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 1>steal the hand from from evidence, and that they store

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:23.080
<v Speaker 1>it in a really secure location. It appears to be

0:49:23.239 --> 0:49:27.399
<v Speaker 1>on a pillar in the middle of a room. Didn't

0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:29.719
<v Speaker 1>they put they put something over it when they're like

0:49:30.480 --> 0:49:32.560
<v Speaker 1>or maybe there wasn't they just shut they shut the

0:49:32.640 --> 0:49:35.239
<v Speaker 1>door to the room. Yeah, I think it's literally that's it.

0:49:35.440 --> 0:49:37.040
<v Speaker 1>They shut the door into the room, which is like

0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:42.800
<v Speaker 1>glass French doors. Um. But literally, the severed hand in

0:49:42.920 --> 0:49:45.720
<v Speaker 1>evidence is just on like a platform on a pillar

0:49:45.960 --> 0:49:48.560
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the room, and somebody breaks into

0:49:48.640 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>steal it, and wouldn't you know it, the person who

0:49:50.960 --> 0:49:54.440
<v Speaker 1>breaks into steal it is that nurse we saw earlier

0:49:54.520 --> 0:49:56.919
<v Speaker 1>in the movie who was repeatedly coming into the room

0:49:56.960 --> 0:49:59.840
<v Speaker 1>of the guy who was getting amputated and and screamed,

0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:04.880
<v Speaker 1>screamed again, that's right, coming together it is. And so

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:07.360
<v Speaker 1>this is when things start being like, oh, maybe it

0:50:07.480 --> 0:50:10.640
<v Speaker 1>will make sense the end. Uh oh, And and somebody

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:12.759
<v Speaker 1>comes in to be like, hey, you can't take that hand,

0:50:12.840 --> 0:50:15.239
<v Speaker 1>and the nurse just slaps the person so hard it

0:50:15.320 --> 0:50:28.719
<v Speaker 1>kills them. Meanwhile, our our the closest thing this movie

0:50:28.800 --> 0:50:31.839
<v Speaker 1>has to a hero, Our our young blonde medical examinator,

0:50:32.840 --> 0:50:37.480
<v Speaker 1>examinator examiner guy. He's like, hey, what's going on with

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:39.799
<v Speaker 1>this case? And the police tell him, well, the case

0:50:39.920 --> 0:50:42.719
<v Speaker 1>is closed. You know, Keith jumped into the acid and

0:50:42.840 --> 0:50:46.640
<v Speaker 1>that's that. But he's not satisfied. He's taken it too personal.

0:50:47.000 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 1>He wants to know what's going on with the hand um.

0:50:50.280 --> 0:50:54.640
<v Speaker 1>So ultimately he and Bradford, the undercover officer who got

0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:58.040
<v Speaker 1>her blood drank by Michael Gothard, they go to Vincent

0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:02.239
<v Speaker 1>Price's house together. That's they start. Basically, He's like, you

0:51:02.360 --> 0:51:04.360
<v Speaker 1>stay in the car. I'm going to go in and

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>find the hand. If something bad happens, just hank the

0:51:08.120 --> 0:51:10.279
<v Speaker 1>horn and I'll come back. Or if I don't come back,

0:51:10.400 --> 0:51:13.000
<v Speaker 1>call the police, and so he goes in. He looks around,

0:51:13.080 --> 0:51:16.600
<v Speaker 1>doesn't find anything. Here's the hawk comes back out, cars

0:51:16.640 --> 0:51:20.920
<v Speaker 1>gone books goes back in. Meanwhile, we get some resolution

0:51:21.160 --> 0:51:26.200
<v Speaker 1>on the political plot. So we see, uh, we see Conrads,

0:51:26.320 --> 0:51:30.320
<v Speaker 1>the creepy guy from the from the totalitarian state. He

0:51:30.640 --> 0:51:36.160
<v Speaker 1>somehow gets in touch with Christopher Lee and Christopher Lee. Uh.

0:51:37.520 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Lee appears to be some kind of British agent.

0:51:41.000 --> 0:51:44.600
<v Speaker 1>The Conrads is from this other country. They clearly have

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:48.200
<v Speaker 1>an existing relationship and they may be involved in some

0:51:48.400 --> 0:51:51.320
<v Speaker 1>kind of double dealing or conspiracy. We're not sure exactly what.

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:55.759
<v Speaker 1>But they meet up in Conrads is like, okay, we've

0:51:55.800 --> 0:51:59.160
<v Speaker 1>captured one of your spies. So finally we're like, oh, okay,

0:51:59.239 --> 0:52:02.400
<v Speaker 1>the guy who's getting chased in the other country earlier, Uh,

0:52:02.520 --> 0:52:06.200
<v Speaker 1>he was like a pilot of a secret spy plane.

0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:08.600
<v Speaker 1>And he says, you know, it could be very embarrassing

0:52:08.800 --> 0:52:11.680
<v Speaker 1>for the British government if if this were to get out.

0:52:12.160 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 1>So here's what we'll do. We'll give him back to you,

0:52:15.080 --> 0:52:18.200
<v Speaker 1>or we'll just eliminate him, whatever you want, as long

0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:20.840
<v Speaker 1>as you give me all of the police files on

0:52:20.960 --> 0:52:24.600
<v Speaker 1>the so called vampire murders, and here finally this is

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:28.800
<v Speaker 1>connecting to that plot line, and Christopher Lee's character is like, Okay,

0:52:29.000 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>that works, let's do it. Yeah. So Conrads uh, he

0:52:32.600 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 1>goes and he gets all the files that he needs.

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:39.480
<v Speaker 1>He poses as a sociologist doing research on psychos and uh,

0:52:40.280 --> 0:52:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I say that because the movie repeatedly it like it

0:52:42.880 --> 0:52:46.440
<v Speaker 1>refers to psycho as a known police phenomenon. And it

0:52:46.520 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 1>seems like there's gonna be a clean break here because

0:52:48.520 --> 0:52:52.160
<v Speaker 1>we we we have we have our our our chief investigator.

0:52:52.280 --> 0:52:56.440
<v Speaker 1>Here um Bellivar pop in and he's like, oh, here

0:52:56.480 --> 0:52:58.799
<v Speaker 1>you go. Here's here's all the documents. You can look

0:52:58.800 --> 0:53:00.239
<v Speaker 1>at him in the next room. And he is to

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 1>leave and Conrads is like, oh no, I'm I'm taking

0:53:03.080 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 1>them with me, and he's like, Nope, you can't do that.

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.879
<v Speaker 1>So he gets the claw the vulcan neck pinch once again,

0:53:09.160 --> 0:53:13.200
<v Speaker 1>and oh Bellaver is dead now. Yeah, but now there's

0:53:13.239 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 1>nothing standing in his way. So he takes all these

0:53:16.320 --> 0:53:18.880
<v Speaker 1>documents and I can't remember we see him destroy them,

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:20.920
<v Speaker 1>but it's later revealed that, yeah, he just destroyed all

0:53:20.960 --> 0:53:24.000
<v Speaker 1>of it. So here we come to the finale. The

0:53:24.080 --> 0:53:28.440
<v Speaker 1>finale is the young medical examinator. Why do I keep

0:53:28.480 --> 0:53:33.200
<v Speaker 1>saying examinator, the young medical examiner? Uh? Surrel. He goes

0:53:33.400 --> 0:53:37.200
<v Speaker 1>back to Vincent Price's house and he's looking around, Um

0:53:38.040 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 1>does he what? What? What happens? Actually I can't remember

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:42.200
<v Speaker 1>how he ends up. Does he get captured? Does he

0:53:42.320 --> 0:53:44.120
<v Speaker 1>just sneak in? He just sneaks in? I think he

0:53:44.200 --> 0:53:47.200
<v Speaker 1>just sneaks in, Yeah, and just kind of runs into them, right,

0:53:47.280 --> 0:53:51.719
<v Speaker 1>And Vincent Price's character, the strange doctor, is just kind

0:53:51.760 --> 0:53:55.279
<v Speaker 1>of like, hey, you seem curious. How would you like

0:53:55.360 --> 0:53:59.000
<v Speaker 1>a tour? And he's like, yes, please, yes. Well, actually,

0:53:59.080 --> 0:54:01.840
<v Speaker 1>I really liked the way this monologue was written for

0:54:01.960 --> 0:54:05.840
<v Speaker 1>Price because he actually explains why he's monologueing. He's like,

0:54:06.000 --> 0:54:08.040
<v Speaker 1>I have to do all this in secret. I'm very

0:54:08.120 --> 0:54:10.160
<v Speaker 1>proud of my work, but because it's I don't get

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:11.840
<v Speaker 1>to talk to anybody, I never get a chance to

0:54:11.880 --> 0:54:14.960
<v Speaker 1>show off. So I'm just excited to tell you about it.

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:17.440
<v Speaker 1>And this is also really a point in the movie

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 1>where I just felt like we had gone past midnight,

0:54:20.280 --> 0:54:22.120
<v Speaker 1>like there was there were no rules anymore, there was

0:54:22.160 --> 0:54:24.480
<v Speaker 1>no telling where this film was going to actually go,

0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.600
<v Speaker 1>which I found rather exciting. Yes, yes, totally. So here

0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:32.400
<v Speaker 1>we finally get the full plot explained with visual demonstrations,

0:54:32.560 --> 0:54:37.080
<v Speaker 1>and it is that Vincent Price and some other unnamed

0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:43.520
<v Speaker 1>co conspirators in other countries are employing secret new surgical

0:54:43.640 --> 0:54:48.440
<v Speaker 1>techniques to create new humans, composite humans built out of

0:54:48.520 --> 0:54:53.200
<v Speaker 1>the parts of these murder victims, and and that Michael

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:57.520
<v Speaker 1>Gothard Keith, the murderer, was one of his composites, was

0:54:57.640 --> 0:55:01.040
<v Speaker 1>like the first, uh, composite human he built with like

0:55:01.280 --> 0:55:04.759
<v Speaker 1>brain with its own brain function. And the nurse and

0:55:04.960 --> 0:55:09.560
<v Speaker 1>like other servants in Vincent Price's house are also composite humans. Yeah,

0:55:09.640 --> 0:55:12.360
<v Speaker 1>so they're all composite humans with super strength are in

0:55:12.440 --> 0:55:15.960
<v Speaker 1>on this conspiracy. Um. Again, there are a lot of

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:18.640
<v Speaker 1>questions you might ask about, like how this is supposed

0:55:18.680 --> 0:55:21.200
<v Speaker 1>to work and all, But it takes me back to

0:55:21.239 --> 0:55:23.479
<v Speaker 1>the scene where Conrads is talking to Christopher Lee's character

0:55:23.560 --> 0:55:25.520
<v Speaker 1>and he's like, look, I'm not going to explain to

0:55:25.560 --> 0:55:28.319
<v Speaker 1>you what's going on. You wouldn't believe me if I did,

0:55:28.440 --> 0:55:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and so we have to kind of trust him on that, Like,

0:55:30.640 --> 0:55:34.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever the particulars are, it's it's above us mere humans

0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:37.640
<v Speaker 1>to understand. Yes, though I think it's interesting in that

0:55:38.480 --> 0:55:44.240
<v Speaker 1>it's unlike normal mad scientist uh plot revealed, because normally

0:55:44.320 --> 0:55:49.120
<v Speaker 1>the mad scientist reveals himself to be working alone and says,

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:52.040
<v Speaker 1>I am the only person who has discovered something and

0:55:52.200 --> 0:55:54.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to do that thing. And of course it's

0:55:54.040 --> 0:55:57.560
<v Speaker 1>something with horrifying implications. That's all the case here, except

0:55:57.800 --> 0:56:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Price reveals he is sort of in con intact with

0:56:00.719 --> 0:56:05.120
<v Speaker 1>other people doing this around the world. It's a conspiracy plot.

0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:08.840
<v Speaker 1>They're they're like, we're working together, though it seems like

0:56:08.920 --> 0:56:11.520
<v Speaker 1>they don't really know each other. They only have minimal

0:56:11.600 --> 0:56:15.560
<v Speaker 1>contact because later Conrads comes in and he is clearly

0:56:15.719 --> 0:56:18.560
<v Speaker 1>part of this conspiracy with Vincent Price, but they've never

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>met before. He doesn't recognize him when he sees him. Yes,

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:24.440
<v Speaker 1>I identify himself. Yeah, and that yeah. I think that

0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:26.520
<v Speaker 1>something is rather interesting about it as well, because there's

0:56:26.560 --> 0:56:29.920
<v Speaker 1>no there doesn't seem to be any mastermind behind it all.

0:56:30.239 --> 0:56:34.520
<v Speaker 1>It's almost like a you know, a headless organization, uh,

0:56:35.000 --> 0:56:39.839
<v Speaker 1>totally noncentralized. And Conrads character shows up though, and he's like, hey,

0:56:40.640 --> 0:56:43.640
<v Speaker 1>the vampire killer thing has gotten way out of hand. Uh.

0:56:43.719 --> 0:56:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Not only did Keith need to be destroyed, not only

0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:49.360
<v Speaker 1>did did did the documents about Keith need to be destroyed?

0:56:49.680 --> 0:56:51.080
<v Speaker 1>But I actually he didn't need to go ahead and

0:56:51.120 --> 0:56:54.000
<v Speaker 1>shut down everything you've got going on here and including

0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:57.919
<v Speaker 1>your helpers, including you, including you, Vincent Price, You're gonna

0:56:57.960 --> 0:57:00.839
<v Speaker 1>go in the acid. So the rest of the movie

0:57:00.960 --> 0:57:05.040
<v Speaker 1>is various things going in the asset. Yeah, because Conrads

0:57:05.080 --> 0:57:08.279
<v Speaker 1>and Vincent Price's character they start fighting, and it's this

0:57:08.440 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 1>is actually I never expected to see a fight sequence

0:57:11.760 --> 0:57:14.840
<v Speaker 1>with with Vincent Price. Uh, that's so so good. Like

0:57:14.880 --> 0:57:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I was like rooting for him because ultimately Conrads is

0:57:17.920 --> 0:57:21.520
<v Speaker 1>just absolutely villainous, whereas at least Vincent Price thinks he's

0:57:21.560 --> 0:57:25.200
<v Speaker 1>the good guy. So I'm gonna I'm gonna side with him.

0:57:25.480 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 1>And so it looks like he's going to succumb to

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:29.720
<v Speaker 1>the claw, and then he fights back and fights out

0:57:29.760 --> 0:57:32.560
<v Speaker 1>of the claw, and you're like, yeah, go Vincent Price. Yeah,

0:57:33.080 --> 0:57:36.520
<v Speaker 1>I think the characters are equally villainous, but Vincent Price

0:57:36.760 --> 0:57:39.280
<v Speaker 1>is Vincent Price, so you know, yeah, so I was

0:57:39.360 --> 0:57:42.840
<v Speaker 1>rooting for him too, so that yeah, it's it's evil

0:57:42.880 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 1>spy versus evil spy and they're fighting and who wins.

0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.680
<v Speaker 1>It's Vincent Price. He beats Conrads and he puts him

0:57:48.680 --> 0:57:52.520
<v Speaker 1>in the acid. But then oh oh, another another party

0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:55.560
<v Speaker 1>shows up and it is Christopher Lee. Yeah, and he

0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:59.919
<v Speaker 1>strolls in very cool, very much in command, and there's

0:58:00.080 --> 0:58:03.000
<v Speaker 1>this wonderful saying there. There are several different scenes in

0:58:03.040 --> 0:58:05.920
<v Speaker 1>the picture that are creatively shot, but especially this one

0:58:06.000 --> 0:58:11.120
<v Speaker 1>where um, he ultimately ends up sort of hypnotizing Vincent

0:58:11.200 --> 0:58:13.800
<v Speaker 1>Price's character. We get this weird shot that kind of

0:58:14.360 --> 0:58:19.000
<v Speaker 1>goes up and below Vincent Price's face with kind of

0:58:19.040 --> 0:58:22.480
<v Speaker 1>a black background, and then he's in the acid. But

0:58:23.080 --> 0:58:25.560
<v Speaker 1>now it's also clear that Christopher Lee is part of

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.640
<v Speaker 1>this conspiracy as well, and he must also be a composite.

0:58:28.840 --> 0:58:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they ever say that, but he's got

0:58:31.360 --> 0:58:33.960
<v Speaker 1>the super strength as well, so he's got to be

0:58:34.080 --> 0:58:37.360
<v Speaker 1>part of it. Um. So it doesn't seem the conspiracy

0:58:37.480 --> 0:58:39.720
<v Speaker 1>is defeated in the end. It just seems that these

0:58:39.800 --> 0:58:45.080
<v Speaker 1>two guys Christopher Sorry Conrads and and Dr browning Vincent

0:58:45.120 --> 0:58:48.760
<v Speaker 1>Price's character, well, they get destroyed, but the overall conspiracy

0:58:48.800 --> 0:58:51.480
<v Speaker 1>seems to have been saved by one of its members,

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:55.480
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Lee. Yeah. And they have several lines that allude

0:58:55.520 --> 0:58:58.320
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that the conspiracy again is is not centralized,

0:58:58.760 --> 0:59:01.280
<v Speaker 1>and so there's room for sort of heresies within the

0:59:01.360 --> 0:59:06.560
<v Speaker 1>conspiracy roads within the conspiracy. So what while Conrads seems

0:59:06.600 --> 0:59:08.800
<v Speaker 1>to have the opinion that like, well, this is not

0:59:08.960 --> 0:59:12.520
<v Speaker 1>working in a free democratic society, the conspiracy is much

0:59:12.560 --> 0:59:15.160
<v Speaker 1>further along back where I come from and uh and

0:59:15.280 --> 0:59:21.920
<v Speaker 1>tried in Sylvania or wherever um. And meanwhile, uh, Vincent

0:59:22.040 --> 0:59:24.880
<v Speaker 1>Price's character has has been this sort of uh, you know,

0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:28.200
<v Speaker 1>rosier glasses view of things about how you know, what

0:59:28.320 --> 0:59:30.400
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna We need to cut out the bad parts,

0:59:30.800 --> 0:59:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you know, and we need to make sure we're we're

0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:36.160
<v Speaker 1>getting rid of the bad composite people. But ultimately we're

0:59:36.160 --> 0:59:38.400
<v Speaker 1>in the right going in the right direction. But we

0:59:38.480 --> 0:59:40.760
<v Speaker 1>need to, you know, stop the bad parts of the

0:59:41.320 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 1>plot before it gets goes too far. Meanwhile, Christopher Lee's

0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:48.560
<v Speaker 1>character like he like basically says, no, it's too late

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:51.480
<v Speaker 1>for all that, Like we're we're on the train to

0:59:51.880 --> 0:59:56.240
<v Speaker 1>uh to uh to horror and in tyranny, and uh,

0:59:56.360 --> 0:59:58.640
<v Speaker 1>there's no turning back. And I'm not only am I

0:59:58.720 --> 1:00:00.280
<v Speaker 1>not going to stand in it's in it's way, I

1:00:00.360 --> 1:00:03.120
<v Speaker 1>am going to ensure that it happens right. So he

1:00:03.280 --> 1:00:05.560
<v Speaker 1>disposes of the rest and then he walks out and

1:00:05.680 --> 1:00:09.120
<v Speaker 1>are are sort of human heroes, or at least implied

1:00:09.240 --> 1:00:13.760
<v Speaker 1>human heroes. Dr Sorrel and uh an officer Bradford. They

1:00:14.040 --> 1:00:17.040
<v Speaker 1>are alive and they have escaped because Bradford again was

1:00:17.080 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 1>gonna be was going to be dismembered by Vincent Price.

1:00:20.120 --> 1:00:23.240
<v Speaker 1>But then Sorrel intervened and and like he got her

1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:25.240
<v Speaker 1>out of there, and they escaped, and they get into

1:00:25.320 --> 1:00:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Christopher Lee's car with Christopher Lee's like, you know, I'll

1:00:28.880 --> 1:00:32.200
<v Speaker 1>give you a ride. But um, the ending, I don't

1:00:32.200 --> 1:00:35.240
<v Speaker 1>know what you made of this. The two humans were

1:00:35.320 --> 1:00:38.840
<v Speaker 1>kind of smiling at Christopher Lee as if like they

1:00:38.920 --> 1:00:40.760
<v Speaker 1>knew what was going on and they were in on

1:00:40.920 --> 1:00:43.240
<v Speaker 1>it or something, But that wouldn't make any sense given

1:00:43.280 --> 1:00:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the plot. I think they were just

1:00:45.440 --> 1:00:47.920
<v Speaker 1>trusting in him, not realizing that he is at the

1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:52.880
<v Speaker 1>heart of all the conspiracy as well. They're just yeah,

1:00:53.160 --> 1:00:56.320
<v Speaker 1>they're just really happy the government's here. But but they

1:00:56.360 --> 1:00:58.760
<v Speaker 1>do ended on a nice kind of ambiguous note that's

1:00:58.800 --> 1:01:01.320
<v Speaker 1>not too doomy. It's not just like and then he

1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:04.720
<v Speaker 1>cut up our our hero uh and and and the

1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:08.040
<v Speaker 1>women he saved uh No it's it's it's more ambiguous

1:01:08.080 --> 1:01:11.400
<v Speaker 1>than that, but it but some doom is definitely, definitely implied.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a short term happy ending, but long term

1:01:14.720 --> 1:01:17.520
<v Speaker 1>ominous ending. Yeah. Yeah, And once it really hits, once

1:01:17.600 --> 1:01:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it sinks in, not only do you scream, but then

1:01:21.120 --> 1:01:23.880
<v Speaker 1>you scream a second time, and then about six more times,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's six more, just just to make sure, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean again, this movie is tripled distilled. This movie is

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<v Speaker 1>so strange and so unique, and I'm trying to think

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<v Speaker 1>what exactly I mean. I guess it's mostly the structure

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<v Speaker 1>and the fact that it's so baffling for so long

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<v Speaker 1>is the main thing about it. Uh, that that really

1:01:43.880 --> 1:01:46.960
<v Speaker 1>makes it so unusual and striking, And the fact that

1:01:47.040 --> 1:01:49.880
<v Speaker 1>it can be baffling for so long and actually makes

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<v Speaker 1>sense at the end. Yeah, And you ultimately end up

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<v Speaker 1>in a place where the plot holes become features. They

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<v Speaker 1>become spaces for mystery that work well in a picture

1:01:59.360 --> 1:02:02.360
<v Speaker 1>like this. And that chase scene is gonna stick with

1:02:02.480 --> 1:02:04.440
<v Speaker 1>me for years. I'm going to be thinking back to

1:02:04.520 --> 1:02:08.280
<v Speaker 1>Michael Gothard in that purple shirt, climbing the mountain and

1:02:08.360 --> 1:02:12.240
<v Speaker 1>then ripping his arm off. It's so good, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>This is a really fun picture that invites interpretations. So

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<v Speaker 1>we'd love to hear from anyone out there who has

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<v Speaker 1>seen it, uh, either you know, back in the old

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<v Speaker 1>days or has seen it recently. We'd love to hear

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<v Speaker 1>your thoughts on how things shake out in the movie.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe maybe you're familiar with the book and can schime

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<v Speaker 1>in on that as well. I'm sure it's great literature.

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