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Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets

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Speaker 2: Up Podcast. We have got a big, big recap to

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Speaker 2: talk to you guys about the Mets offseason plan came

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Speaker 2: out Joel Sherman in an article basically laid out exactly

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Speaker 2: what David Stearn's playing was and I'm not gonna line

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Speaker 2: sounds pretty good. So we're gonna talk about that. Talk

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Speaker 2: more about Freddy Perrault, the Tobias Myers, Luis Robert, everything

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Speaker 2: that's been going on in the Mets world for the

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Speaker 2: past week since we last spoke to you from the

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Speaker 2: Freddie Parolta trade. Let's go ahead and cover it, because.

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Speaker 1: Somehow, some way, in the bleak winter and the crazy

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Speaker 1: storm that's been going on, there's so much to talk

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Speaker 1: about with the Mets. Before we do, make sure you

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Speaker 1: James, how you feeling. We're both in different places right now.

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Speaker 1: We're both in different places. Mark got trapped in Porto Rico.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, because of the stortuck in Puerto Rico juicy.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, I fought the blizzard to get to a

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Speaker 1: cab in the Poconos. But you know what that we're

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Speaker 1: having a nice time. It's just what a beautiful offseason

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Speaker 1: for us as people that make content about the Mets,

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Speaker 1: because we got months of stuff to talk about. It

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Speaker 1: never ends, And there's like, funny, if we.

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Speaker 2: Thought last year was good, this offseason this is like

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Speaker 2: we had the whole Soto stuff and we can milk

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Speaker 2: him forever. We've gotten twenty five different moves that we

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Speaker 2: could talk about.

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Speaker 1: It never ended. Do you want to start with Sherman?

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Speaker 1: You want to start with Paralta recap stuff. I guess

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Speaker 1: we could briefly talk about Peralta stuff quickly because that

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Speaker 1: will build into what Sherman talks about in the article.

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Speaker 1: I know.

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Speaker 2: I saw some comments saying like, I can't believe you

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Speaker 2: guys didn't talk more about Tobias Myers, and I think

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Speaker 2: I got some there. Yeah, we definitely can talk a

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Speaker 2: little bit more about him, but also, at the same time,

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Speaker 2: he is I don't want to say an afterthought because

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Speaker 2: that's not fair, but he kind of is like the

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Speaker 2: new version of what I think the Mets and vision

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's the worst case Tobias Myers

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Speaker 1: Cooper Criswell was the DFA to make room the forty

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Speaker 1: man roster for I think Peralta, And yeah, we were

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Speaker 1: trying to have Myers. Technically, yeah, we were dead wrong

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Speaker 1: on that. Like Tobias Myers kind of conveniently slots into

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Speaker 1: both and Will Sam and Tim Britton hinted at that

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Speaker 1: exactly in their piece that came out on Monday for

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Speaker 1: The funny thing too is that right now after this

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Speaker 1: There's nothing like deep Mets niche roster conjecture, roster building conjecture,

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Speaker 1: Might not be the worst idea. No, it might not

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Speaker 1: made by Jared Siler for all you kids out there

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Speaker 1: podcast Baseball perspectives. The Mets just have continued to draft

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Speaker 1: these guys where Brandis Burro profiles, like we've said last week,

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Speaker 2: Was something that I'm looking forward to seeing. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: with an article comparing Freddie Peralta to similar pitchers who

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Speaker 1: know this. This is in Tim's article. They represented David

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Speaker 1: value a lot as an organization. And they traded. They

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Speaker 1: trade Hunter Dobbs, Richard Fitz and Yuka fer Hardo to

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals. And the two trades they made this offseason.

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Speaker 1: And now the guy Austin's Something Pee, Now that's the

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Speaker 1: college cheese. So the last piece that Wilson Rari Trae,

435
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Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. I apologize to Austin Something.

436
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Speaker 1: But they keep trading the guys that they can't get

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Speaker 1: fastball with. So that's something the Red Sox are like, oh,

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Speaker 1: if you can't get a fastball with, we don't like

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Speaker 1: you as much. The Cardinals might be like, I don't care,

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Speaker 1: We'll give your breaking balls. Big statement. Put the play

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Speaker 1: as I'm saying that, that could be the same thing

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Speaker 1: that possibly that the Bruiser I think about taking Sproke

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Speaker 1: and giving up to Bias Myers. Not Tobias Myers. Missus

444
00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,000
Speaker 1: bats was fastball either. But it's very different kinds of pictures.

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Speaker 1: But every organization has different philosophies, they've different strengths, different weaknesses.

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Speaker 1: So it is fun to see the types of players

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Speaker 1: they target in these trades, and it.

448
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Speaker 2: Is fun to see the different kinds of prospect paulls

449
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Speaker 2: that you can get for these good, good players, what

450
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Speaker 2: makes it worth it. It kind of was like MLB

451
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Speaker 2: the show wish a little bit. It's like, let me

452
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Speaker 2: just add one more guy to get that bar up

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Speaker 2: to what's acceptable.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what we got here. And again, a fun

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Speaker 1: part about this is now why I talk about the

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Speaker 1: Joel Sherman article a little bit, because there was some

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Speaker 1: crazy stuff for the article about where the Mets plans

458
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Speaker 1: were this offseason, how kind of sharply they went after

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Speaker 1: the trade market, how this was Joel Sherman's words exactly,

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Speaker 1: the Mets were ecstatic at minimum that the Rangers were

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Speaker 1: willing to take on Brandon Nemo's contract just to take

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Speaker 1: Marcus Emian back. Like it was. This was kind of

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Speaker 1: the tell all, like the little bits of crumbs we've

464
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Speaker 1: been waiting for all all off season, put together after

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Speaker 1: the rosters and put together was a treat. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So we had been hearing that apparently the relationship between

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Speaker 2: Semeon and Corey Seger got toxic earlier this offseason, that

468
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Speaker 2: Seger was kind of the perpetrator of this entire thing,

469
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Speaker 2: being like like Simeon was trying to get everybody together,

470
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Speaker 2: trying to get good vibes, and see Wheer was like no,

471
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Speaker 2: and then basically Simeon said, well, at least I show

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Speaker 2: up every single day, and Seeger, I'm sure did not

473
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Speaker 2: like that World Series MVP's gonna stay.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna trade the other guy.

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Speaker 2: So they end up moving Simeon, and the Mets were

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Speaker 2: pumped because he fits the defensive thing that they've wanted.

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Speaker 2: They wanted to get stronger up the middle.

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Speaker 1: They did that.

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Speaker 2: He had a ten team no trade clause, and of

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Speaker 2: the teams I guess that were on that, the Mets

481
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Speaker 2: felt pretty comfortable that if they ever needed to again,

482
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Speaker 2: they would be able to move Marcus Simeon too one

483
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Speaker 2: of those ten teams, which is kind of crazy like

484
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Speaker 2: playing four D chess there. But also at the same time,

485
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Speaker 2: they feel like that he's going to be able to

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Speaker 2: bounce back, so it's not something that they're particularly worried

487
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Speaker 2: about at this exact moment. They were more worried about

488
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Speaker 2: the fact that if they kept Nemo, him and Soto

489
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Speaker 2: in the corners could become a problem further down the line,

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Speaker 2: especially when Nimo has the five years left in all

491
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Speaker 2: that money because at some point one of those two

492
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Speaker 2: is going to become a DH and if not, next

493
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Speaker 2: year you're both. Yeah, if not both, we'll see what

494
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Speaker 2: Soto does. He said he's gonna be better defensively this year.

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Speaker 1: I trust that guy. That guy, if he wants to

496
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Speaker 1: play defense, he can do it. But like the Mets

497
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Speaker 1: would be mega handcuff screwed if they had Brandon, Demo,

498
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Speaker 1: Alonso and Soto on the roster at one point where

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Speaker 1: they would all be DH's five years from now. And

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Speaker 1: it is nice that the way that the Mets went

501
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Speaker 1: after Solo last year, they weren't scared of it. At

502
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Speaker 1: the time. They were like, well, we're kicking this can

503
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Speaker 1: down the road of one. So those signs was we're

504
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Speaker 1: very happy to get one. So like not being afraid

505
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Speaker 1: of what could be a future problem. And another part

506
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Speaker 1: of this too talking about team rquie types player fits

507
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Speaker 1: TA with teams like two players. Development Wise, the Mets

508
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Speaker 1: are becoming the Pols fly ball Kings of the league,

509
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Speaker 1: basically who they're trying to hire to be in their

510
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Speaker 1: hitting development. Marcus Senmi has always been a great Poles

511
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Speaker 1: flyball guy. Marcus Emi would have had a handful of

512
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Speaker 1: more home runs to say the field last year than

513
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Speaker 1: he had a globe life in Texas. So maybe that's

514
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Speaker 1: something again if you could just if you could just

515
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Speaker 1: sneak this guy back to twenty one home runs, Like

516
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Speaker 1: a lot of this comes back together. And the coolest

517
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Speaker 1: thing about that part of the Sherman article was that

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Speaker 1: exactly kind of what we thought at the time, where

519
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Speaker 1: left field is just a position where there's dudes everywhere

520
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Speaker 1: you look leftfield dh specifically, and Nimo is a very

521
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Speaker 1: good baseball player, but his one fifteen one eighteen WRC

522
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Speaker 1: plus one twenty wherever it was last year, while it

523
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Speaker 1: is good in terms of the league, it's not really

524
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Speaker 1: great in terms of corner outfielders. So the second that

525
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Speaker 1: Nimo was off the team, the Mets were locked in

526
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Speaker 1: on both Kyle Schwarber and Kyle Tucker. And the fact

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Speaker 1: that Sherman really really plushed that the Mets went hard

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Speaker 1: after Kyle Schwarber in this which it felt like a

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Speaker 1: tiny bit at the time, didn't really see this much

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Speaker 1: now knowing all the crazy strings of Mets politics offseason,

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Speaker 1: makes sense in retrospect. Yeah, I mean, like we know

532
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Speaker 1: that the Mets were linked to Schwarber a couple of

533
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Speaker 1: years ago too, when he was available, they wanted him,

534
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Speaker 1: they couldn't get the job done. But the ultimate reason

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Speaker 1: why they didn't end up getting Schwarber was because they

536
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Speaker 1: felt like they were gonna have to go so much

537
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Speaker 1: higher than what the Phillies were offering to get him

538
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Speaker 1: away from Philadelphia, because Schwarber ultimately wanted to go back

539
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Speaker 1: to Philly, so they were just like, you know what,

540
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Speaker 1: we can't do this. They then switched their focus to

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Speaker 1: Kyle Tucker because they said, we were never giving Pete

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Speaker 1: five for one fifty five. They heard the rumors that

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Speaker 1: was a no shot. We're not beating it, And the

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Speaker 1: exact line that Sherman used with Stearns was infatuated with

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Speaker 1: the idea of Tucker feeling with Solo and Francisco Indoor,

546
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Speaker 1: Tuckle's low key proclivity would be no big deal in

547
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Speaker 1: his least swing decisions would make him a Mets monster.

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Speaker 1: It seems like they really wanted him. It just it

549
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Speaker 1: seemed like the way he wrote this, the Mets really

550
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Speaker 1: thought they had him.

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Speaker 2: It seems like the Mets thought that they had him,

552
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Speaker 2: and I guess it was just again the Dodgers in

553
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Speaker 2: the twelfth hour coming in and being like, hey, now

554
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Speaker 2: we want you in.

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Speaker 1: Coley said okay, bye bye. And another big part is

556
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Speaker 1: we get later on again to the Mets pivot thing

557
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Speaker 1: Polanco and Bob Bashett is that this is something I

558
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Speaker 1: do want to talk about a lot because I'm kind

559
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Speaker 1: of surprised by this, but I'm also excited by it.

560
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Speaker 1: The Mets also project that baby Brett Baty could play

561
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Speaker 1: left field well and as long as he hits, will

562
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Speaker 1: find his five hundred ish play appearances. Do you think

563
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Speaker 1: baby cand play left field well? I do. I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, Actually, no, I'll scratch that. I do. I

565
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Speaker 1: believe even Brett Brett Baby can do anything he wants. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Brett Baby can do anything. Don't you listen to them, Brett.

567
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Speaker 1: But put the realistic hat on.

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Speaker 2: How much worse would it be the Nemo played it though,

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Speaker 2: That's what I'm comparing it to because not a ton.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's a ton because Baby's more athletic,

571
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Speaker 2: Baby's got a better arm. Those two things right there

572
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Speaker 2: are huge in his favor. Now, can you track a

573
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Speaker 2: fly ball? Can he get to a ball in the gap?

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Speaker 2: Those will be growing pains that you might have to

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Speaker 2: go through.

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Speaker 1: But if he's going to be a similar type hitter

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Speaker 1: and give you the arm and the athleticism, I do

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Speaker 1: think he could end up being hot. Has taken the

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Speaker 1: podcast similar value to brand Nemo in twenty twenty six.

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Speaker 1: I bet that's a very similar thought exercise with the

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Speaker 1: Mets in internally when they were trying to do all

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Speaker 1: these permutations of what could happen if they did miss

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Speaker 1: on these left fielders. And another part of this, I

584
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Speaker 1: think that the Mets the way this offseason went, like

585
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Speaker 1: I know, there was a big fixation of losing Antoine

586
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Speaker 1: registering that kind of stinks, and we've seen some people

587
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Speaker 1: still bring that up recently, which K Chavez can't really

588
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Speaker 1: believe that. I mean, that's the medium marvel teasing in

589
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Speaker 1: the good bit here, But where I lost my train,

590
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Speaker 1: I thought Eric Cholis Popps in my mind and living

591
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Speaker 1: at losing Antwan, it seems like the Mets might have

592
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Speaker 1: might think they found a gem in Kai Correa. Because

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Speaker 1: then I don't want to use this word lightly, but

594
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna use it anyway. The hubers, which they're throwing

595
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: around position changes this offseason is going to be something

596
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Speaker 1: that will be a massive story major League Baseball's whole

597
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,399
Speaker 1: year and will be a big way to dictate like

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Speaker 1: where this Mets team kind of falls in the range

599
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Speaker 1: of regular season outcomes. It's a good thing, great thing.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to watch spring training. What's going on with

601
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Speaker 1: these guys. But it seems like whenever they're projecting a

602
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Speaker 1: new internal defensive model, something they're confident about with Kai

603
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,719
Speaker 1: Correa coaching, like they're like, we don't we don't care

604
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Speaker 1: where the fuck you guys are playing. We think you

605
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Speaker 1: can handle it now. No, they look for the tools

606
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Speaker 1: to be able to play the position, like again, we

607
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Speaker 1: sow baty athleticism.

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Speaker 2: Arm probably can play left field if you get enough reps.

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Speaker 2: Or Hey, Polanco, they felt like he was very well

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Speaker 2: capable to play first Bobashet is playing a position he's

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Speaker 2: never played professionally. They think he can do it, no problem,

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Speaker 2: Like I think it's it could be good there. It

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Speaker 2: seems like the Mets like to take a little money

614
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Speaker 2: ball here. Feels like they might think they got their

615
00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 2: Ron Washington and like he could fix you just any

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Speaker 2: position you want to play, He's got you, which is cool.

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Speaker 1: And again like there's going to be a good blend

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Speaker 1: of like DAYA and real baseball. It's gonna be one

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Speaker 1: of the most fun stories to track for us and

620
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 1: for everybody this year. The Mets haters are gonna if

621
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: one guy boots a ground ball in the Great prou League,

622
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 1: people are gonna lose their shit. But we might have

623
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Speaker 1: to make like a public phone line that people could

624
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Speaker 1: leave like legitimate voicemails, because I can only imagine or

625
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Speaker 1: do some live shows to bringing people in. Yeah, because

626
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: whenever some boots of groundball, people are gonna be freaking out.

627
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: But also the way that joke keeps going on this

628
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: is that where the Mets kind of went bullpen wise,

629
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Speaker 1: It's fun to see the timeline of how an offseason

630
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Speaker 1: lines up, and it does play with the way I

631
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Speaker 1: think the Mets played this one where the relievers happened

632
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Speaker 1: to jump earlier, a guy the Corge Polanco happened to

633
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: jump earlier, so you kind of have to be aggressive there,

634
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,400
Speaker 1: where says the Mets, they go over what they wanted

635
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 1: to spend on Horiy Planco, but just wanted him as

636
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,680
Speaker 1: a guy that they know could mash lefties and a

637
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Speaker 1: lot of the guys they brought in this winter are

638
00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: less d mashers down the stretch. Last year, it felt

639
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 1: like the Mets were lost puppies when the left he

640
00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: was on the mound against them, and then bringing the

641
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 1: Louis Roberts notorious lefty masher, Horiy Polanco crushes lefties and

642
00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 1: Bobachek crushes lefties. It's like, oh, we did this all

643
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,360
Speaker 1: of a sudden, But Marcus Simon two, Marcus sent me two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he's that was good against lefties, but I

645
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Speaker 1: think he's still good against lefties. Yes, he's rightly bad.

646
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: But the Mets really wanted brad Keller and the fact

647
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Speaker 1: that they signed Luke Weaver to the exact same contract

648
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,119
Speaker 1: twenty seven minutes after brad Keller signed his deal, I

649
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: think it says that. And the Mets really wanted Tyler

650
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: Rogers back, but Toronto Way had the vesting options, so

651
00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: it is I bet there was so much frustration in

652
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 1: that room during December that they kept barely missing on

653
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: the guys they first targeted. Like it's it's kind of

654
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 1: funny the way this all snuck out to the media late,

655
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: because if these kind of things was with a snuck

656
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,160
Speaker 1: out at the time, I think would have been even

657
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: more people freaking out than they actually were.

658
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I do think that this all probably led

659
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 2: to the forty two million dollars a year that Bob

660
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 2: Bachet gets, just from the fact of they lost down

661
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,159
Speaker 2: on a lot of their guys. Bobachek was still one

662
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 2: of their guys, though they had been touching base with

663
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 2: this camp it seemed like all off season, and that

664
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 2: he wasn't Option one, two or three, but that they

665
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: did feel comfortable giving Bobachett money. It just seemed like

666
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 2: they were like, you know what, enough, Bobachett's our guy.

667
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,600
Speaker 2: We're bringing him in. Here's money you can't say no to.

668
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 2: Here's a contract you can't say no to.

669
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,199
Speaker 1: And it was clear that they were like, all right,

670
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,640
Speaker 1: I think Kylesh Warburn and Kyle Tucker are our first guys.

671
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: We didn't get those guys. That's probably also going to

672
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,959
Speaker 1: infuriate people too, But I don't know. I've been having

673
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: this conversation with my dad, not because he's on that side,

674
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,200
Speaker 1: but like the whole pee Alonzo Brandimo, you're training away

675
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,119
Speaker 1: all the favorite players, you're trading away these guys.

676
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 2: It kind of hit me this week. Where as much

677
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 2: as I love those dudes and I wish it could

678
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 2: have worked here, and I don't blame them for why

679
00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 2: it didn't work here. I don't know how much better

680
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: those guys could have played, or how much better they

681
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: will play at the same time, and we haven't won

682
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,320
Speaker 2: anything when they played that well, like it might just

683
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: again it was it was time, I think, to try

684
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:54,160
Speaker 2: something new because we we legitimately probably got the best

685
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 2: years of those guys all at.

686
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: The same time and it didn't work out. Dude Stern's

687
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: had a savage quote. I don't remember if it was

688
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 1: the Louise Robert prescotver Tate was louse, Robert Presconference, Robert

689
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: ro Bet Robert we're talking Aboutrobert Robert Robert. I was

690
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: talking to Ernie about that the other day. A Latino pronunciation,

691
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 1: but our Nesto, not Nesto. But David Searns had a

692
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: line because someone asked about one of the reporter's about

693
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,119
Speaker 1: like the stench of last year ending if that kind

694
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: of has hung around, and he was killer A lot

695
00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 1: of the guys in this clubhouse weren't a part of

696
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: that last year. Yeah, it's true, and I think that

697
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 1: was something that was really important this offseason, kind of

698
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: like believe believe half of what you see and none

699
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 1: of what you hear. Like everything David Searns said was

700
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,959
Speaker 1: like very diplomatic, very political, like going through this offseason

701
00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 1: about how would you like those guys? How much want

702
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,719
Speaker 1: those guys? The fact that we're gonna have five new

703
00:28:38,760 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: members of this line up and nine new guys in

704
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: that clubhouse had to come opening day compared to the

705
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: last year. There was something they very very seriously wanted

706
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,320
Speaker 1: to change. And they's the what's the Latino percentage? Do

707
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: we hit thirty nine yet? I We're gonna close to

708
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna have to do that final tally when it

709
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 1: comes up to it. And then the last part of

710
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: this Pa Joe Sherman peace was just how how tight

711
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 1: the Mets forts seemingly with every single starting picture that

712
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,840
Speaker 1: got moved this offseason out there with the runners up

713
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: to Edward Cabrera, they went after Ryan Weathers, who went

714
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: to the Yankees. They talked extensively about Braxton Ashcraft and

715
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: Bubba Chandler. Bubba Chandler was the one that made me fascinating.

716
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 1: Excuse me, you say, Bubba Chandler you were talking about.

717
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: Was that I wonder if that was just a phone

718
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: call and the pirates said something, they said, we gotta

719
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 1: hang up the phone. Yeah, I mean extensively. I mean

720
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: they'd probably more of a conversation. I also loved Braxton Ashcraft.

721
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 1: I think I ranked Bubba Chandler in my first go

722
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: through starting pitcher rankings like thirty eight. I mean, he's

723
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 1: just disgusting. This stuff is. It's incredible. And johano I

724
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,520
Speaker 1: Vijeeda who went to the Red Sox and they like

725
00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:33,680
Speaker 1: Michael Kane, they an't like him enough. They said they

726
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 1: loved Ranger Suarez and they were ready to do that deal.

727
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,000
Speaker 1: That would have been a fun podcast for us. Yeah,

728
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: that would have been me being like, he don't like that.

729
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 1: That would have been one of the first times I

730
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: would have been like eight that. Yeah, and again they

731
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 1: just when it all came together, it wounds up just

732
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: being prowled. It just just seemed like the best match

733
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and kind of the

734
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: one that was so obvious it was a little bit

735
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: hard to say.

736
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: I think Freddie Prawlt is a better picture than Ranger Suarez.

737
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 2: So I'm glad we got him. I think he's better

738
00:29:58,480 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: than franber Valdez.

739
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: Like the whole thing is so I I love Freddy.

740
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: All these coats I keep coming out. Did you hear

741
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 1: the one when he was on a podcast that every

742
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 1: single time the Brewers had a day game, it was

743
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: an understood thing in the clubhouse that he went to

744
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,400
Speaker 1: Freddie's house after through something on the grill hanging out

745
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 1: a little bit. Like that's seems like really what this

746
00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 1: Mets team needed, as has lacked over the last few years,

747
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: and I'm happy that there's a guy that might be

748
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: trying to push that forward, especially if he signed six

749
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: seems like that. He is an all time vibes guy

750
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,040
Speaker 1: from what we're seeing, and he's also a damn good picture,

751
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,200
Speaker 1: damn good picture, really good pitcher. There was a funny

752
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: thing that was going around that Freddy last year I

753
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,880
Speaker 1: think only went more than six innings four times and

754
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 1: has done that like thirteen times in the last few years.

755
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: But he also went at least six innings like seventeen times.

756
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, so, but we'll see.

757
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 1: Just because the guy hasn't done something doesn't mean he

758
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 1: killing starting. Yeah, no, big deal. And also the thing

759
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: we always talk about with roster construction, that like we're

760
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: loosing to the corner hile field, now we're loose at

761
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: first base. To think that seems like a lot of

762
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: these teams want to be, which is the exact thing.

763
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:57,120
Speaker 1: The Mets weren't with the most long contract. I wouldn't

764
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: have been with Pete long contract. It's just it's funny that,

765
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 1: like the original perceptions that I think we and a

766
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: lot of other people made about what David Stearns wanted

767
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: from this team, we kind of forgot about them and

768
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: how much fun twenty twenty four was. Yeah, and then

769
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 1: we were kind of harshly reminded of them last year,

770
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: and now they've all come to fruition. This is just

771
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 1: it's this team is so different than it was last year.

772
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: It still is like barely hitting me and I don't

773
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: even think it will we actually see guys in jerseys

774
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: on TV and spring Trading Opening Days.

775
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 2: Gonna be crazy. There's like four guys coming back. It's

776
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:27,160
Speaker 2: gonna be like, all, who's gonna get the loudest cheer

777
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: of the new guys? James, who's getting it of the

778
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 2: new Bobaschett, Bobaschett. I think people love Bobaschett.

779
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 1: I think Bobaschek coming in and being a batting average,

780
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: run scoring position, World Series performer. Guys like that is

781
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 1: porn to the old school baseball fan.

782
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:42,360
Speaker 2: It was gonna be him, or it was gonna be

783
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: Marcus Simeon. For me, similarly, of just like baseball fans

784
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 2: respect the shit out of Marcus Simeon.

785
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think the fact that Marcus Simeon is

786
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: coming up two straight years of sub seven hundreds ops

787
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: is gonna dilute that a little bit. And I think

788
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: who should get it? Who, Louise Rober, you should get it?

789
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: I also think bo I think, I mean Robert talk

790
00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,600
Speaker 1: about the guy who could have the extreme gradient of

791
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: how fans are going to perceive him, because I think

792
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: that like if he just if he has, like if

793
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: you guys have sim the season of MLB to show

794
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: or out of the park baseball before. Sometimes if you

795
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 1: have Rober on your team April is four to twenty

796
00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: six batting average and thirteen homers and sometimes oh ninety

797
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: eight with zero homers, that whole thing is gonna change

798
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 1: the entire perception of Mets fans to Louis Robert, it's

799
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. He's uh, he's better Jose Siri. Yeah,

800
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,959
Speaker 1: I mean very literally, right was Carlos Beltron. He's going

801
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,520
Speaker 1: to the Hall of Fame. Same thing, bet Jose Sierri.

802
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: Who else? Ariison Bayers better Jose Siri. Now he's a corner.

803
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: He's a fourth outfielder according to former GMS. But to

804
00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: talk a little bit more about Louise Rober real quick. Uh.

805
00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 2: They also mentioned that after they signed Baschett, they wanted

806
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 2: to go after Louise Robert because they felt that they

807
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: had a really high floor and they want to play

808
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 2: with more upside.

809
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, just safety Pitcoff for Mark with safety in the

810
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 1: floor and then go get someone who think can kind

811
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 1: of be the lightning on exactly what we're saying, which

812
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 1: is the thing that we always talk about with him.

813
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,840
Speaker 1: But they were like upsides too good to pass up

814
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: on them. And again it's always a thing where this

815
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: is how it kind of seems like the better way

816
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: to build a team instead of locking yourselves into guys

817
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: who are like pretty good and will slowly decline. Do

818
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 1: something crazy, do something Nuice. I'm with it. I'm with it.

819
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 2: Also talking about the trade for Robert too, they mentioned

820
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 2: that they liked Acunu's speed and defense. Robert my bad,

821
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 2: but he had no options left in that Truman Pauli

822
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,440
Speaker 2: this is this was something I was like, oh baby,

823
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: I love it. This Mets team is awesome. They see

824
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 2: Truman Pauli as the kind of depth piece their much

825
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: improved pitching program will regularly produce. They're like, we'll find

826
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: him tomorrow, doesn't matter.

827
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:37,640
Speaker 1: It's true, and Pauli's I think seventh round, eighth round

828
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: draft pic out of Harvardy. We'll do that one again.

829
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 1: But it's it's this is like in terms of like

830
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: if you're a real baseball nerd, this was one of

831
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: the most fun offseasons of track in recent memory. Like

832
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 1: it's fun to see people from like all corners of baseball,

833
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: like multiverse be like that's Met's had some fun. We

834
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: still don't know, like how much better this team is.

835
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 1: I think we think it's better. I think some people

836
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,160
Speaker 1: better will agree to disagree about that. We'll have to

837
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: see how this team plays out. But it's I guess

838
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 1: I will start leading to some media marvels because I

839
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: think I got one of them. That was exactly do

840
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 1: have one of those I don't know, fucking idiot, which

841
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: one I guess? I mean I have, I have like

842
00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 1: ten ready to go right here, so big one. I mean,

843
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: can we start with the Philly stuff about Bobashett Oh

844
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: my god, see you at the bank. So it was

845
00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: like a week ago. Now NBC Sports Philadelphia, who broadcast

846
00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 1: the Philadelphia Philly games on the record, one of my

847
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: top five favorite broadcast groups, teams productions in Major League

848
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 1: Baseball with both press conference happened last week. The key

849
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,480
Speaker 1: came to he had to quote which we know its

850
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: players speak no big deals. Basically, I don't know why

851
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,320
Speaker 1: people can't see that shit. If for an adult, you

852
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: understand what's going on. The guy took a fat bag.

853
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: He's gonna play really well and he's gonna go off.

854
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: But the Phillies fans who wanted him so badly. I'll

855
00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 1: start this from Philly Centrals before I get the NBC Sports.

856
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: I can't wait for Bobaschet to have a terrible year

857
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 1: and then the Mets are forced to overpay him another

858
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: forty two million dollars the next two seasons. It's going

859
00:34:57,719 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: to be sweet like honey, do you think Bobaschet's can

860
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: to have a horrible year? You were about to pay

861
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: him for seven years? Like that was the funny game

862
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 1: theory partly about the Mets and the Phillies of bobochet

863
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,359
Speaker 1: is like, maybe you should just stick them with seven

864
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 1: years of Bobachett and they have them have another contract

865
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: that they're not gonna want pay five years down the line.

866
00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: But the NBC Sports won Bobachett. I came to the

867
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,160
Speaker 1: conclusion it was very obvious. I wanted to be a Met.

868
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 1: Then NBC Sports Philly goes, see what the bank bo.

869
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 1: It's like, you.

870
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: Guys, remember what happened the last time you matched up

871
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: against us in the playoffs.

872
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,120
Speaker 1: You guys haven't won a playoff series in a couple

873
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 1: of years, like literal years. And it was one to

874
00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:30,880
Speaker 1: the playoffs this year against the Dodgers, and went to

875
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: one on one last year against the Mets. Like that,

876
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: it's the bank thing was fun for a little while,

877
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,359
Speaker 1: but like this Phillies team the irony of it too.

878
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: They're complaining about the exact opposite thing the Mets did. Oh.

879
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 2: The thing that I always say is if you're not

880
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,440
Speaker 2: getting better, you're getting worse, and you can look across

881
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 2: that Phillies team and say they did not get better,

882
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 2: and you can look across that Mets team and say,

883
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,759
Speaker 2: at least they got different. Could you imagine if the

884
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 2: only acquisition the Mets made this offseason with Adolie Garcia

885
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: coming off two sub seven hundrepius, that would be like

886
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 2: if the Mets offseason stopped at Marcus Emion and you

887
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: resigned Pete. You resigned that, And I'm sure I'm sure

888
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 2: a lot of mess fans would have practically stoked about that,

889
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: but but they also would have been really upset come

890
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:11,919
Speaker 2: September when this team is again fighting for their life

891
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 2: and maybe not making the postseason again.

892
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: Not saying this Mets team is is a shoe win

893
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: to do anything. I think I was happy. David Stearns

894
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: said that in the Roadbot press conference that it's like,

895
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: we can't be can't be the favorites in the National

896
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:24,920
Speaker 1: League East with probably seconds team then now because we've

897
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 1: never won it before. So again, good on that one.

898
00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Philly fans collective crash out was absolutely

899
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: unbelievable because they want to Bobuschett so badly then got

900
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: another one here. I mean, just we've shot her out before.

901
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:39,560
Speaker 1: Daniel McCartin. Danielle McCartin from WFN ween a bad takes.

902
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: I think that she just saw a gap in the

903
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: take ecosystem with Keith McPherson walking away and just wants

904
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 1: to be the Mets hayter in w fan. But just

905
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: this was This was their tweet from right after Kyle

906
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 1: Tucker signing. Mets fans on the phone lines killed me

907
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: for calling him small market Stearns from the beginning. I

908
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: wonder where they are now. Just as a refresher, David Stearns,

909
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,879
Speaker 1: during his Mets tenure, has offered the most money ever

910
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: guaranteed for a pitcher in the Major League Baseball history.

911
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: Wasn't signed. The most guaranteed money for any player in

912
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: professional sports history ever in the history of Earth that

913
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: was signed one So though the most highest AAV for

914
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: any individual player in a single season that was Kyle

915
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: Tucker not signed, which was breaking the want solo record

916
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: that he did sign last year. This is not a

917
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,479
Speaker 1: small market journal manager anymore, very clearly not. It's also

918
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 1: funny too, because I think the Yankees have signed how

919
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,319
Speaker 1: many guys that weren't on their team last year. Well

920
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 1: is it the Yanks have a fat pay roll team.

921
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: They do. I know, he's like nine guys that team

922
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,239
Speaker 1: making twenty five mil. But yeah, it's good they give

923
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: Cody Bellinger that big contract. I got another one right here.

924
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 1: If we want to stick with wfan just running through

925
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: these media marvels, yeah it might as well. I mean

926
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: they're they're kind of one of the reasons. I mean,

927
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: Buster roll me, of course, but those guys are quick

928
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: number two. So Pete Hoffman, I don't exactly know Pete's

929
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: role at WFAN is he is the producer of Carton's

930
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,279
Speaker 1: show Now and I've I've been seeing his tweets and

931
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: I feel like it has to be on purpose. So

932
00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 1: I think this was a bit because Pete Hoffman, after

933
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: the mackenzie Gore trade happened, he said, I would much

934
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: either have had McKenzie Gore's comparing him to Freddy Peralta.

935
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:05,560
Speaker 1: That tweet, God, you ready for the ratio? That's what

936
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 1: we got nineteen likes, nineteen combined quote tweets and retweets,

937
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:12,760
Speaker 1: and one hundred and twenty four replies for a grand

938
00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: totals for a grand total of one hundred and sixty

939
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,280
Speaker 1: thousand impressions for Pete hoffin nineteen likes for one hundred

940
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: and sixty thousand impressions is probably one of the worst

941
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 1: baseball ratios I've ever seen. That's that's a tough one. Yeah,

942
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 1: and that's also a horrendous take. Yeah, just we I mean,

943
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: we love Mackenzie Gore in the Mess Up Podcast. I

944
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: think I think there's still a lot of a lot

945
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: of stuff's gonna happen good Mackenzie Gore's career in terms

946
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: of like the old guard baseball fans liking Mackenzie Gore

947
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: last year, and we were just not a wins and

948
00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: lost podcast in terms of picture rankings, records less it

949
00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:45,399
Speaker 1: was five and fifteen for the fourty years and good

950
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: either and his career is four point one nine. It's

951
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: just like this is I like McKenzie Gore a lot.

952
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: I would have loved the Mets to take a shot

953
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 1: in Mackenzie Gore. But I would have liked that not

954
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 1: in lou with Freddy Peralta, but in conjuncture with Freddy Peralta. Yeah,

955
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: it would have been.

956
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: It would have been a cool other piece to add

957
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,360
Speaker 2: to this team. But yeah, no, I definitely would not

958
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: have preferred him over Freddie Burlton in any world.

959
00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 1: I got one here before. I want you to run

960
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: through the Eric Shava stuff which I just sent Tim,

961
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: so you so you can redin narrate that one, because

962
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 1: that's your boy. Last one. T Tiki Barber, We're just

963
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: we're just rip at w F A. Oh my god.

964
00:39:15,239 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 1: First off, why is he talking about baseball? That's what

965
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: I was gonna say. I think it's clear. I mean,

966
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 1: my dad listens to a lot more WF fan than

967
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: I do, and he has the she does the show

968
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: with Evan, so it's like he's going to talk about

969
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: baseball because Evan talks and knows knows his stuff with baseball,

970
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 1: but doesn't know his stuff. Tiki is worried that the

971
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: Mets are not setting themselves up for sustained success with

972
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,359
Speaker 1: so many short term editions, again not having the breath

973
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: of the farm system, the player development, the young talent.

974
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,600
Speaker 1: I will say I was a little disappointed by Evan too,

975
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 1: just blindly agreeing with him though in that clip. Yeah,

976
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,320
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean I think Evan Evan. You

977
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: get very different Evan on the radio than you get

978
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: on like his personal show the Rico Barni. It's like

979
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,440
Speaker 1: talking about the Mets, which is, you know, that's kind

980
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 1: that's kind of a funny one. But can you can

981
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: you can you do Javez? Now?

982
00:39:56,400 --> 00:40:01,600
Speaker 2: Okay, so I don't know who Eric Chavez, but we

983
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 2: got Eric Chavez DMS leaked metal coverage on Instagram. Yeah

984
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 2: posted it, So I guess Eric Schavez posted a story

985
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: and this guy replied saying nothing to say about the

986
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: Mets lately. Eric Schava says, there's nothing to say second

987
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:18,120
Speaker 2: class citizens, Pal, everyone playing for second place. The reply

988
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 2: then goes, got rid of all the slack in the organization,

989
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: We'll see, which is also that's hilarious to say to

990
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: a guy that just got fired.

991
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 1: We got rid of all the slack. It's funny. You

992
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: think they're in a strong position. These moves were second

993
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 1: grade moves, Pal, You think trading away the players they did,

994
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,080
Speaker 1: and this was plan a.

995
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:36,360
Speaker 2: Command dude also riddled with spelling mistakes. Tell me this

996
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: what his sterns ever accomplished in this game. He's a salesman.

997
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: Listen to him talk.

998
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 1: You're buying a used car. So I mean, just just

999
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:45,080
Speaker 1: to break it down, you want me to keep reading

1000
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,400
Speaker 1: it out before I give opinions. You can interject your opinions.

1001
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 1: I'm fine with that. This is your part. Calling him

1002
00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: a used car salesman Fuels, Yeah, yeah, definitely a DW No.

1003
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,360
Speaker 1: Bashet and Freddie Peralta are second grade moves. Lmao. That

1004
00:41:01,480 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 1: came from another guy, which again, those are great moves.

1005
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: Those are those are awesome base great play, great baseball players.

1006
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 1: Eric Shavi is a reply to that, look at the numbers, idiot.

1007
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,560
Speaker 1: What numbers would tell you that those guys aren't good?

1008
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: I actually wait, actually we try and find them. Let's

1009
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 1: try and find them right now. Bobashett on bass. Maybe

1010
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: do you think but Eric Schovis and this talks about

1011
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,480
Speaker 1: putting the ball in play is all time put the

1012
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,720
Speaker 1: ball in play guy, and he loves going to opposite field.

1013
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: He might just be talking about Bobache's two twenty five

1014
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: batting average from twenty twenty four. Eric Chovas might have

1015
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: not checked in that much on baseball last year, like

1016
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,600
Speaker 1: that's including his own job. Yes, That's what I'm saying,

1017
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 1: So I think he might be. We also know we

1018
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: didn't check it watching twenty twenty four either that's true. Actually,

1019
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:44,319
Speaker 1: I don't know. So maybe maybe maybe he's just think

1020
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: about his dad. Yeah, maybe maybe think about that Dante,

1021
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: who has put up incredible offensive years and somehow was

1022
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: still negative war.

1023
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 2: It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen. Continuing

1024
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 2: on with this conversation, the viewer or fan replies, their

1025
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 2: numbers are excellent. Damn the idiot drop must mean you're

1026
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 2: a little upset.

1027
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 1: That was crazy.

1028
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: You just call this guy an idiot for no reason.

1029
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: Look at torontover city field. Cityfield is top three hardest

1030
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,399
Speaker 2: part to hidden. You don't go there and get better.

1031
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,319
Speaker 2: The idiot part is your belief in sterns, to which

1032
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,439
Speaker 2: I don't think. Yeah, I don't think the city field

1033
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 2: is a top three is it.

1034
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: I'm gonna load it up right now though the I mean,

1035
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: I'm sure Eric Shravas would would be very upset if

1036
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,279
Speaker 1: I was checking this on the stackcast park factors. But

1037
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: there's no way city fields a top three hard park

1038
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:26,839
Speaker 1: to hit it. I know Toronto is probably a bit

1039
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: easier as Baseball Span takes a little time to load

1040
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: on me now in terms of overall park factors, cityfield

1041
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 1: grades in as the ninth most difficult, so not okay,

1042
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: not easy, but not ter. The Blue Jays are fourteen

1043
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: smack dab in the middle, pretty close. Okay. So this

1044
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 1: guy starts going personal. It says, your career two to

1045
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,799
Speaker 1: fifty hitter, guy, I don't know how you can tell

1046
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: anyone about places to go with. I went a little far.

1047
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,400
Speaker 1: The idiot part was immature, but I get it now.

1048
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me. Chavez is kind of a

1049
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: good reply. Sixteen years over one hundred million, you're an idiot.

1050
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 2: I'll give him that one one. By the end, yes,

1051
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: that one's very good. Sterns is making moves you ie,

1052
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,120
Speaker 2: like he didn't go try get Tucker and other guys too.

1053
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,399
Speaker 2: Vegas has them third and World Series odds. You must

1054
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: know a lot more. They didn't want to come to

1055
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 2: New York. You're making my point. These signs were afterthoughts,

1056
00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: not my first moves. They wanted Come on, man, how

1057
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 2: is Pete not a met for life? This guy then

1058
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: proceeds to agree I wish Pete was a met for life,

1059
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 2: and then Chavez. He says that he feels like he's

1060
00:43:20,040 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: talking to a child. He tells Chavez that Chavez goes

1061
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 2: how is Antoine not still a coach? How is Hefner

1062
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: since he's so great, not a coach? Which that was

1063
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: a shot at Hefner. No, I think that was I

1064
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: think that was the opposite. I think it's all shots

1065
00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:34,800
Speaker 2: at Cerns. Okay, all shots at Sterns.

1066
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: Got it.

1067
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 2: It's a cover up for the mistakes Sterns made. Dude,

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Speaker 2: I have so much insight, it's not even funny. Guy

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00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: says change is needed sometimes and he goes agreed changes

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Speaker 2: gets stertins out he's a salesman.

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Speaker 1: And then that was pretty much it. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: he did say how does a team go from a

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00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 1: magical run to blowing the biggest lead in baseball history?

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Speaker 1: Which I don't I don't know where that one came from.

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Speaker 1: Here's the comment where they were ye yeah, and he's

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Speaker 1: like could have been him. He was like, yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 1: He's like Stern was the president for both of those teams. Like,

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? Yeah? The good luck again

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Speaker 1: not Stern's credit, but the bad luck is Sterne's fault.

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Speaker 1: Of course, all the good moves are Steve Cohen, all

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Speaker 1: the bad moves are David Sterns. Do you not understand

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Speaker 1: how this works, James, It's just it's fine. Eric schab

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Speaker 1: has just been so sour grapes is. I wish I

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Speaker 1: didn't have to talk about him so much, but it

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00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: is so enjoyable now that he's not in our organization

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00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: and shocking that no one else has hired him. I

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Speaker 1: wonder why I think we could say this is probably

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Speaker 1: the last time though we will ever have to talk

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Speaker 1: about him on the show. I would hope. So I

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Speaker 1: over under zero point five more meaningful Eric Shavis metches.

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Speaker 1: He'll probably bring him up this year, like if we're

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Speaker 1: hitting better, hitting worse, like they'll be a joke involved.

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Speaker 1: But how many times do we actually legitimately talk about

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00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 1: Eric Schavis over on there?

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Speaker 2: Over over half and I almost guarantee you he will

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Speaker 2: say something stupid on video about the Mets before the

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Speaker 2: end of the season. I have a good feeling of

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Speaker 2: where that will be.

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Speaker 1: That's good, I'll say I'm with you on that one.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it, but that was good. Good. Tan's forty

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00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 1: five minutes here and anything else you want to sneak in?

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Speaker 1: What can I sneak in? Eric Schabas is a baby.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited about this Mets team.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting very excited. I'm getting really amped about the

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Speaker 2: regular season. I can't wait for spring training. I think

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Speaker 2: we're like, what two weeks away from pictures and Catchers, two.

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Speaker 1: Weeks right from pictures and Catchers, were like two months

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Speaker 1: away from opening day. I think it's March twenty eighth,

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Speaker 1: March twenty seventh.

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Speaker 2: We also also what, also, it does seem like, based

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Speaker 2: on all the other news too, that the Mets are

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Speaker 2: pretty much done with any big moves the rest of

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Speaker 2: the offseason.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's I think that's fair. I think

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00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,399
Speaker 1: they seem it looks done. Yeah, I think the team

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00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: looks good. To me, the team looks good. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's just it's fun to have a lot of new faces.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to get such a reset after how horrible

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Speaker 1: last year felt. If you ask any Mets fans, they'll

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Speaker 1: tell you, oh, we're exactly two months away. As recording

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Speaker 1: this March twenty six, Thursday afternoon at home, hopefully skimes

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Speaker 1: for his Peralta on my Mbcpeacock Man. That game is

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Speaker 1: gonna be crazy electric. This is fun, Like, it's it's

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Speaker 1: nice that after last year, we like some of the

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Speaker 1: worst baseball watching experience they've ever had my life. This

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00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,600
Speaker 1: year we have all new guys to watch with. They're

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00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 1: the easiest way to get rid of the taste in

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Speaker 1: your mouth is to get rid of the taste. Yeah,

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00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: but eat new food. And that's what we have, right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm jacked up for this team. I'm happy that

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Speaker 1: we got to have like a big, get a lot

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Speaker 1: of shit together episode because it's fun. You're still stuck

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Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico, so maybe Puerto Rico. Yeah, maybe this

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Speaker 1: week we do some kind of canned content for you guys.

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Speaker 1: Mark and I record the two things already that right,

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Speaker 1: I think asier list of every Mets manager and team history,

1137
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Speaker 1: which is pretty funny, and a grade for the last

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Speaker 1: fifteen Mets.

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Speaker 2: Off seasons, so you guys can listen in the comments

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Speaker 2: which one you'd like to see If you want to

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00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: see the managers, you'll see all the grades, yeah, or

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Speaker 2: the grades for the off season. But that will probably

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Speaker 2: be the next one, just because I don't see any

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Speaker 2: more news coming out this week, but I'm inco so

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Speaker 2: you never know, and we'll.

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Speaker 1: Try to make those available earlier for the members. Yes,

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00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:53,520
Speaker 1: we've been doing trying to get lined up and people

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00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 1: seem to like it, so yeah, we'll try to get

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Speaker 1: those ready up there. So if you want to get

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00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: those early memberships, availble down below. No pressure all you're

1151
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:00,880
Speaker 1: not you're not losing not being a member. You just

1152
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: get episodes early and you get this kind of you know,

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00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 1: evergreen content. We're probably gonna start making a bit more

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Speaker 1: of on this channel when whenever, when whenever we finished

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Speaker 1: editing it. But otherwise I think that's it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much for listening. Thank you for watching.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you're subscribed to mess Up on YouTube. If

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Speaker 2: you're listening to US Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google drops a rating,

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Speaker 2: drops a review, download and subscribe. You can follow James

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Speaker 2: on social media at James Ciano. I'm jiraff nick Mark.

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Speaker 2: Thank you guys so much. We'll catch you on the

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Speaker 2: next one.

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Speaker 1: Peace out. Let's call a mess