1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: This is every Thursday from noon to two appreciated by 2 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Big fut four. Welcome into the huddle with Dave, Wiman, Jake, 3 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: keep see Stacy Ross. We're getting you guys ready for 4 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: the seahawks upcoming game against the New York Jets. Before 5 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,400 Speaker 1: we do that, though, and we've got a lot to 6 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: preview that includes injury updates. Speaking with ESPN Jets reporter, 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: We're going in the trenches with Ray Roberts, We're talking 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: to jarn Reid. All of that is coming up within 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: this hour heading into one pm. Before we do that, 10 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 1: let's look back at the other New York team, the 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: one that Seattle lost to with the New York Giants 12 00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: last week. We started on defense after a good defensive 13 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: game against the Eagles, Let's start on offense this week 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: because it was a weird performance overall. Dave, I'll start 15 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: with you. What cannot happen again? Well, they can't just 16 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: run the ball nine times in the second half. I 17 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: think that's that's the big, big key for come up 18 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: here against the Jets. And I'm sure Pete realizes that. 19 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: And not only that, they had a five nothing lead 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,120 Speaker 1: at halftime, so you know it's that's the time to 21 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: start getting that going. I feel like that's that's really necessary. 22 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: I mean, and I'm not saying that. Look, people have 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,680 Speaker 1: figured out Russell Wilson, but they had that game plan 24 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:22,319 Speaker 1: kind of figured out the Giants did. And you know, 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: every once in a while, you're gonna come across the 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: team that does you know know. And it looked like 27 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:28,399 Speaker 1: they were doing a really good job of coverage of 28 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 1: the deeper routes and you know, just kind of daring 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: Russ to throw the check downs and he didn't seem 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: to be able to see them most of the time. 31 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: So but yeah, I mean the run game with Chris Carson, 32 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: we've kind of talked about preserving him, but now it's 33 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: time to let him loose. And you know, and I 34 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: think he is really this but you could say Carlos 35 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: Hide as well. But I feel like Chris Carson is 36 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: really the key to a good running game. And I'm 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: always somebody Jake who puts it like seventy five percent 38 00:01:57,040 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 1: on the back. I mean, I think if you have 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: a good run that or a good offensive line that 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: can you know, it's at least open some kind of hole. 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: It's about who gets gets through there and who you 42 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: know makes a move at the second level, and Chris 43 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: just hasn't been able to break off that big run 44 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:14,079 Speaker 1: that we've seen him do in the past. So I 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 1: think it's time to get him gone. And you know, 46 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: and I hate to say it, but like health be 47 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: damned for him. I mean, it's it's time to time 48 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 1: to let him loose. Yeah, it is a It is 49 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 1: a great point there, Dave, And I think that getting 50 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: him involved is going to be key. What do you 51 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 1: make of the thought of you know, you say that, 52 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,919 Speaker 1: and yet the New York Jets, what they do best 53 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 1: as a whole is they are best in their run defense. 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: They are coming into this game, uh they are third 55 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:47,840 Speaker 1: in the league in terms of holding opponents uh to 56 00:02:48,240 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: a their third in the league in yards per rush 57 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 1: right now, um and there, and they're thirty first in 58 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: the league in passing defense. How do you mix all 59 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: that stuff in when you know that one area is 60 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: a lot weaker than the other. Is it more about 61 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: trying to loosen them up and then get to that 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: ground game or do you want to see them come 63 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 1: out from the very get go and get Chris involved 64 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: in the ground game. Are we going to talk to 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,639 Speaker 1: Ray Roberts. Today. We typically talk to Ray. So, yeah, 66 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: I'm just looking at the show sheet here. Ray will 67 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: tell you, I think offensive linemen love that when you're like, hey, 68 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: tell them before the game, guys, we are going to 69 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: bank on you or you guys we're gonna get and 70 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: that gets them fired up, I feel like, And so 71 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: to me, you know, if you come out and say, look, 72 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: this is the game plan, this is what we're gonna do. 73 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: We're gonna force it. We're gonna force it down their 74 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: throats here, and you know, you guys get fired up 75 00:03:40,800 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: because you know Chris Carson's gonna run hard behind you. 76 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: And so to me, I mean, that's that's what I 77 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: picture happening, because you know, mix it or not. Look 78 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: after you run the ball a couple of times. I 79 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: think also the play action pass, if you have established 80 00:03:57,200 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: a really good run game, then all of a sudden, 81 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: you're tight ends open up. And that's something that has 82 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: been kind of a complaint of mine, that Will Disley's 83 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: not getting enough targets. And you know Olsen when it was, 84 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: you know, when he was healthy, and it sounds like 85 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 1: he's he's getting healthy in a hurry. But then also 86 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: Jacob Hollister, so you know, and then that gets going 87 00:04:16,240 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, the deep stuff opens up. 88 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: So and that's what they've always been about. So I 89 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: feel like just getting back to that. But offensive lineman 90 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: love that, and you know, when we talk to Ray, 91 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: he'll he'll definitely echo that that, Look, it's time for 92 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, the team to come. You know, because sometimes 93 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: when you come and say, look, we're banking on you 94 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: to get this done, it gets guys fired up. And 95 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:39,560 Speaker 1: the run game just in general, that gets even defenders 96 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: fired up when you see a guy like Chris Carson 97 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: running people over downfield. So you know, to me, if 98 00:04:44,560 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: that's if I was in charge and I was calling 99 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: the plays, that's kind of what I would do. I'd 100 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,679 Speaker 1: get that offensive line fired up, saying you know, sometimes 101 00:04:51,680 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: when you say, hey, we're gonna rely on you, that 102 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: gets them much more ready to go. And I feel 103 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: like if they approach it that way, then they're gonna 104 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: have some success. David, is there anything about this New 105 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: York's Jets team that worries you or concerns you in 106 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: terms of the offensive side of the ball for this 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 1: defense for the Seahawks, defense to meet and rise to 108 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: the challenges. Stacy, you know, had a challenge for this 109 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks defense to play four solid, great quarters of football 110 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 1: instead of lending up that third quarters to the New 111 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 1: York Giants. What do you make of that? Well, I mean, look, 112 00:05:30,800 --> 00:05:34,040 Speaker 1: what scares me is that they're a professional football team 113 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: and that you know, Sam Darnold and there are people 114 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 1: are all over the board on him. I now, Brock 115 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: thinks that he's really good. I have a buddy named 116 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: Bill Musgrave who's the quarterback coach down at Cal and 117 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,960 Speaker 1: he sent me, you know, a throw that he made 118 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: and just thinks that he's got a phenomenal arm talent. 119 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: But his stats certainly don't show it. But you know, 120 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: I watched the Raider game, for example, and he threw 121 00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: two beautiful touchdown passes to Jamison Crowder. So I mean, 122 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: look at these they can make those plays. And if 123 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 1: they start making those plays, and now you get a 124 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: team fired up. That's what you saw out of the 125 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: Giants the other day. It was like, you know, look 126 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: we're four and seven, we're still in the hunt here. 127 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 1: And they went out and kind of took it to 128 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: the Seahawks and then all of a sudden, you could 129 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: see their sideline just you know, explode with emotion. I mean, 130 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: you know, I was there at the stadium watching it happen, 131 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,799 Speaker 1: and you know, all of a sudden, you could see 132 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 1: these guys were making plays that they normally didn't make 133 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: because they were just inspired. So that's what worries me, 134 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: is that they get going on, you know, in some 135 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: regard and they you know, all of a sudden, get 136 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: some momentum and now, all of a sudden, you've been 137 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:42,120 Speaker 1: punched in the mouth and you got to come back 138 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: and punch back. And so you know, that's that's always 139 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: what worries me. Whenever anybody asked me what makes them dangerous? 140 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,239 Speaker 1: I say, they're an NFL team? How do you stop 141 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: that momentum early? Like, if you're Seattle, what do you 142 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: do to remind them? Hey, I know you saw us 143 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: lose to the Giants, but guess what that was uncharacteristic 144 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 1: And we have been talking about on issues, so that's 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: different than what we feel locally when we've talked about 146 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: those problems. But if you're Seattle, what do you do 147 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: to show the Jets early? Not in our house? Not 148 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: right now? Yeah, this is very basic. And this is 149 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 1: a linebacker speaking here. I feel like I'm still playing 150 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,760 Speaker 1: linebacker in life. By the way, I thought that when 151 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: you said that you felt like you could fight a 152 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: mountain lion. Do you remember that a bear? A bear? 153 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Maybe it was a bear where you where. This guy 154 00:07:27,200 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: got attacked by a bear. He lived, he was fine, 155 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: but you were like, I wonder how I would do. Yeah, 156 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 1: And I was like that as a linebacker talk, it'd 157 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: be nice if I had my helmet and pads on 158 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:38,680 Speaker 1: when I was fighting the bear. But but no, it 159 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: just to me, it's very simple. It's hit him in 160 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:44,000 Speaker 1: the mouth early and just be physical. Go out there, 161 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: run the ball early on. That's how you take it away. 162 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: And you know, to me, that's always the case, is 163 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: that when the team that's more physical is going to win. 164 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: So to me, yeah, defensively, and I'm not saying necessarily 165 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: get after him, you know, as far as you know 166 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: scheme throwing the ball deep or you know, running blitzes 167 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: at him or anything like that. It just get everybody 168 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 1: like you're gonna take on guards and you're gonna hit 169 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: him as hard as you possibly can in the run game, 170 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, and when somebody catches the ball underneath you, 171 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: not behind you. Let them catch the ball underneath you 172 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: come up and make a big hit. And then on 173 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: defense or an offense, you go up and run the ball. 174 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: And you know, call physical downhill plays. To me, that's 175 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: how that's how you take somebody's heart away. And that's 176 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: that happens the more physical team. You can see it. 177 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: And that's exactly what the Giants did. And you know, 178 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: you can see the guy who's always frustrated by that. 179 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 1: And I've seen him come over and slam his helmet 180 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: down a number of times. Dwayne Brown. He wants to 181 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: run the ball. You know, you can see he gets frustrated. 182 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: Not a bad way. I mean, it's not like he's 183 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: complaining or being a bad teammate or anything like that. 184 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: It's just that you know, you can see that he 185 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: wants to and he's great at pass blocking. I saw 186 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,760 Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus said he had what one penalty and 187 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 1: I think he's given up one sack. But you know, 188 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,959 Speaker 1: you ask him, you ask any offensive lineman, and we'll 189 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: ask Ray. You know, look, they they want to go downhill. 190 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: They want to, you know, run block and they want 191 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: to you know, they want to be physical, and you 192 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: know it's more of a finesse game when you're pass blocking. 193 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: I want to ask Ray about this when we bring 194 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,840 Speaker 1: him on at forty five, talk a bit about transitioning 195 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: just between that pass protection and run blocking. Whether one's 196 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: more rewarding or one helps you get in the flow 197 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: of things better. We'll ask him coming up at twelve 198 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: forty five. First though. Coming up next, we're gonna have 199 00:09:35,480 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: John Boyle, a reporter for Seahawks dot Com, get us 200 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: caught up with some injuries and preview this upcoming game 201 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: against the Jets. This is the Huddle, presented by Bickford 202 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: Ford every Thursday from noon to two on seven ten 203 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 1: ESPN Seattle. All Right, welcome back to the huddle with 204 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,440 Speaker 1: Dave Wyman, Jake Heaps, and Stacy Ross. Joining us right 205 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: now is seahawks dot Com reporter John Boyle, John, how 206 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:07,320 Speaker 1: are you? I am doing well? Stacy? How are you 207 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: doing good? Good? Hey? Really quick injury question for me. 208 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,280 Speaker 1: I always have to start with the updates injury because 209 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm boring. I know, I know, I'm letting you off easy. 210 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: Here are we going to see Brandon Shell get back 211 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 1: on the field. I know that he is at least 212 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,480 Speaker 1: expected to get some work in practice this week. I 213 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,400 Speaker 1: think so the fact that he was on the field, 214 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: he was limited yesterday, which if he's already out there Wednesday, 215 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:31,559 Speaker 1: even on a limited basis, I would think that would 216 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,440 Speaker 1: bode pretty well for his chances to play. So yeah, 217 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's good if they can get him back. 218 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: He's kind of quietly been a very big addition this 219 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: season in free agency, So getting him back helping that 220 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 1: pass protection and maybe maybe that can help the offense 221 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: kind of get back on track a little bit. I'm 222 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: going to kind of phrase this so it's not directly 223 00:10:49,920 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: a injury question. What do you think the Seahawks are 224 00:10:53,920 --> 00:11:01,679 Speaker 1: expecting from Rashad Penny? I mean, how about that boil beautiful? 225 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think it's realistic that they're expecting 226 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: him to be out and playing this week. You know, 227 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: he hasn't played football since that's just torn ACL so 228 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:14,640 Speaker 1: he's probably gonna need a couple of weeks to practice. 229 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: But you know, getting him back, even if it's just 230 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: the last couple of games for the playoffs, whatever it 231 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: may be, could be really big. I mean, we saw 232 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: what he was doing Unfortunately, just before the injury, they 233 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: were really finding creative ways to use him, and he 234 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,840 Speaker 1: had a couple of really big games. So you know, look, 235 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: I don't know when that's going to be that he's 236 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: ready to go, but there Pete Carroll talked about they're 237 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: going to work him pretty hard in practice this week 238 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: and get him some ext arrestions. He had to respond 239 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:42,439 Speaker 1: and whenever he back, I think that could be a 240 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: nice Bowl spark. Obviously, Chris Carson's getting healthy too, and 241 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,080 Speaker 1: he's kind of your league guy there, but having Penny 242 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: available to be really big. Now what do you think 243 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: of Jamal Adams this week in the test that he 244 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: will have to personally handle playing him his former team. 245 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: What is that going to be like for him? Do 246 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 1: you think and trying to he's an emotional guy and 247 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: keeping his emotions in check while trying to make some 248 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,000 Speaker 1: big plays. How do you think that that's going to 249 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: go down? John, Yeah, it'll be interesting because I mean 250 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll talked about this Monday. It is a conversation 251 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 1: that he sometimes has with players facing their former teams. 252 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: Is naturally, you know, guys out there, you want to prove, 253 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: you know, if a team will let you go or 254 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: trade you or whatever. You want to prove that you 255 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 1: know that they miss you or whatever it is, and 256 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: you want to show them what they're missing out on. 257 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 1: So if that will be a challenge for him. He's 258 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: such an exciting like they're excited, I should say, and 259 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: just emotional player on the field anyway, So it's gonna 260 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 1: be you know, feeding off of that and using it 261 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 1: but not having to become too much. So we'll hear 262 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: from him, it sounds like probably tomorrow, and it'll be 263 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: interesting to see what he has to say about it. 264 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: But yeah, that'll be kind of a challenge for him. 265 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: Is I'm sure he wants to have a great game 266 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: and show put his best bet forward, but at the 267 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: same time, you can't let it become too much and 268 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: be you know, going crazy out there. You've had some 269 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 1: offensive stumbles by Russell Wilson and then buy folks on 270 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,920 Speaker 1: different levels of the offense as a whole. Has there 271 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: been any consistent pattern with some of what you've seen 272 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 1: or has it all been kind of different issues? It 273 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: seems like it's been a little different week to week. 274 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: I Mean, the one thing Pete Carroll really pointed out 275 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: earlier in the week is how differently teams are starting 276 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: to play them. I mean, they've also just played some 277 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,199 Speaker 1: better defense. And the Rams are really good defense. Giants 278 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: have a really good defense, and that's you got to 279 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,079 Speaker 1: give some credit to the opposing teams. But yeah, and 280 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: we haven't seen the explosive passing name be quite the same. 281 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: And you know, there's there's a lot of factors we 282 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: could get into, but I you know, they can't. You know, 283 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,760 Speaker 1: you can't score in twelve points a game. They got 284 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: to get it right and get better. And I mean 285 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: the good news is with the defense getting better, you're 286 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: not necessarily asking this offense to do what it did 287 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: and to start the hear where UNI thirty five plus 288 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: points just to win a close game. I think the 289 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: defense is good enough now that they can win games 290 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,160 Speaker 1: scoring twenty some points. But yeah, they do need to 291 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: find a way to bounce back, you know, get a 292 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 1: better performance out of Russell Wilson and just kind of 293 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: play a more complete game on offense. Hey, Boyle, I 294 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: more of a comment than anything. Maybe you can comment 295 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:16,679 Speaker 1: on it. I've really enjoyed Jamal Adams press conferences or 296 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, when he's on zoom or whatever the other 297 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: day when he's like, what was the point of that question? 298 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 1: And then you know he got in the whole thing 299 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 1: and mister Joe and all that stuff. He has been 300 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: really you know, and everybody sees him kind of fiery. 301 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: We hear out of New York that, oh, he was 302 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: a problem in the locker room. I just think he's 303 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: fired up. And to me, you know, they accept that 304 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: here and maybe they didn't in New York, but to me, 305 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he just has been He's been a gem. 306 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: He's yeah, I mean, he's so fun. Just he's fun. 307 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: His game is so exciting to watch his personality in 308 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 1: the press conferences, we all you know, when training camp 309 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: and we're all there watching it. He kind of get 310 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,720 Speaker 1: to see him up close in practice. Just the energy 311 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: he brought. And I really liked in training camp watching 312 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: him Bobby Wagoners, they just fed off each other and 313 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: he brings so much the team. That's what Pete Carroll 314 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,200 Speaker 1: talked about this week is just you never know when 315 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: you bring in who he is exactly as a person. 316 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: You can scout him, you know, you learn as much 317 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: as you can about him, but until you have him 318 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: there every day, you don't really know him as a 319 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 1: person as well, and they just love what he's brought 320 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 1: to the team. He is just such an exciting, high 321 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: energy guy. Somebody else that's brought some energy to this 322 00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: team has been Carlos Dunlap. They looked like they were 323 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: trying to be careful with him, John. Is that what 324 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: they were doing in this last game because his snap 325 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: count was limited? And what does it look like for 326 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 1: him this week in terms of the workload they he'll have. Yeah, 327 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: I mean it sure looked like they kind of had 328 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: him on a pitch count. He didn't practice at all 329 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: last week. He did not participate all three days, so 330 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: you know, I honestly want that confident he would even play. 331 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 1: So they got a little bit out of him, and 332 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll did say he felt better coming out of 333 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: the game Monday than last week. So you would hope 334 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: he's doing better and complain more. Now he did not 335 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: practice yesterday. We'll see what happens he's next two days. 336 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: But you know they're they're playing a long game with 337 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: him for sure. You don't want to, you know, push 338 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: him too hard through an injury and lose him for 339 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: a stretch later in the season, so you know, we 340 00:16:11,800 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: might seem a little limited again, but hopefully they've really 341 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 1: adapted practice this week and then maybe play a little 342 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: more and be a little more effective. The Huddles presented 343 00:16:18,680 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 1: by Bickford for Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross 344 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: here with Seahawks dot Com reporter John Boyle. John. We're 345 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: talking with Jaron Reid later in the show today when 346 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: we're when we're talking about Carlos dunlaps impact, how specifically 347 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:35,960 Speaker 1: has he affected guys like read, guys like uh mayoah Ford. 348 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: I mean, what's his presence done for those guys on 349 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: the defensive line? It really helps everybody, and it's you know, 350 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: you see that around the league when teams have that 351 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,040 Speaker 1: one elite, high level pass rusher, that's really a problem 352 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: for offenses that there's a trickle down effect there because 353 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 1: if you just play Carlos Dunlap straight up one on one, 354 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: he's gonna beat you. And teams start to know wide 355 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: protection that way, they do things to try to make 356 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: it harder on him, and when you do that, inevitably 357 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 1: that makes an opportunity for somebody else. So we really 358 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: have I mean, the pass rush has been a lot 359 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:12,800 Speaker 1: better of late, in part because Dunlaps had for sacks 360 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: and Jamal Adams is back in Hugan sacks. But it's 361 00:17:15,600 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: also you know, Puna Ford's got a couple of sacks, 362 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: and Jaren Reid's getting sacks, and you know Rashiem Green 363 00:17:20,600 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: has a look more effective. So it really does just 364 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: it all plays off each other and when you get 365 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,720 Speaker 1: a couple of guys going, everybody else gets better as well. 366 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: Ay John Condotta wrote that maybe the biggest unsung hero 367 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned Puna Ford. He's really quietly having a good year. 368 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and that's how it goes for d tackles, right, 369 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: They they they're disruptive, they make you know, sometimes plays 370 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:44,640 Speaker 1: for other guys. You know, they take on blocks. And 371 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: he is really an unusual player. You talk about how 372 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: you know, long his arms are. Kenny Norton was talking 373 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: about him and how low to the ground he is. 374 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: He's kind of a unique player who all of a 375 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: sudden is really stepping up and you know he's flashing. Yeah. 376 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 1: I mean you go back to his rookie year and 377 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: he was kind of one of the views on the 378 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: top undrafted free agents and he became a you know, 379 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,439 Speaker 1: that kind of stout rundefender, and even as just a 380 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: good rundefender on early downs, he looked like a great 381 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:15,359 Speaker 1: value to get him undrafted. But he's developed into a 382 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: much more complete defensive tackle. We're seeing the pass rush 383 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: out of him now and yeah, I mean you go 384 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: back and there's like, how did this guy possibly go undrafted? 385 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 1: I guess it was that he's short by NFL defensive 386 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: tackle Sanders. But boy, what a great addition he's been 387 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 1: for them, And you're right, he's just really picked it 388 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: up this year and especially in the second half of 389 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: the season. He is Seahawks Dot Com reporter John Boyle 390 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: you can hear him every single Thursday on the huddle 391 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,680 Speaker 1: given us a preview for the seahawks upcoming opponent. Thanks 392 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 1: so much, John, of course, happy to do it. Good 393 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,240 Speaker 1: talking to you. Guess all right, joining us next, guys, 394 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,200 Speaker 1: we're going to take a step across enemy lines. Let's 395 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: figure out what's going on with the Jets, what they're 396 00:18:51,240 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: talking about this week, and what to expect with ESPN 397 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Jets reporter Rich Semini. That's next on the huddle. This 398 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 1: is the huddle appreciated by Big Food forward every Thursday 399 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: from noon to two on seven ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome 400 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: back to the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keeps, and 401 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: Stacy Ross. Joining us right now is ESPN Jets reporter 402 00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 1: Rich Samini. Rich, how are you great? Thanks for having me, 403 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. I mean, 404 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,879 Speaker 1: before I get started with any questions, I gotta know 405 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: what the conversation is like over in Jets Land. Is 406 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: are you seeing this as maybe an opportunity for a win? 407 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: You guys got real close against the Raiders, Seattle's been stumbling. 408 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 1: I'm kind of curious as to how Jets reporters are 409 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:40,400 Speaker 1: seeing this upcoming game. Well, not in a positive light. 410 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,919 Speaker 1: I don't think you know. It's a tough spot for 411 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: the Jets for a number of reasons. Number one, they're 412 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 1: not a good team, so they're over and twelve for 413 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 1: a reason. And number two, it's a long trip to 414 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 1: face a pretty good team. In spite of Seattle's some 415 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: of their defensive deficiencies, I'm just not so sure that 416 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: Jets are going to be able to capitalize on those. 417 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: So I would be surprised if it's a close game. Hey, Rich, 418 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: did the players did the defensive players did you get 419 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: a sense that they liked Greg Williams. And the reason 420 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: I'm asking is, you know, Frank Bush, the new defensive coordinator. 421 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 1: Sometimes you see guys that will kind of rally around 422 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: a new coordinator. Did was he well received well liked there? Yeah, 423 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: you know, that's a great question, because I think it 424 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,680 Speaker 1: was mixed. I think last year when he first came in, 425 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: it was such a culture shock. You know, his style 426 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: is so fiery and you know, on the edge, getting 427 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 1: after players, very vocal at practice. This team was not 428 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: used to that they came from a previous coaching staff 429 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 1: was really kind of quiet. And so I think Greg 430 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: got a lot out of the defense last year, and 431 00:20:56,200 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 1: I think they appreciated his in your phase mentality and 432 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: just like everything else. And I think that style where 433 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: in pretty quickly, and I think in this year it 434 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: didn't have nearly the same effect on the players. I 435 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: think some of the guys would be rolling their eyes, 436 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: you know, and it's like this guy yelling at us again. 437 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: And so you saw it with their play this year. 438 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: A lot of blown assignments, penalties really spiked this year, 439 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: especially personal fouls, and of course he lost all respect 440 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 1: in the locker room with that, you know, terrible call. 441 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: At the end of the last week's game, Rich, what 442 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: I saw that receiver Denzel Mims, a rookie who has 443 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:43,120 Speaker 1: been outstanding in terms of his explosive plays, is going 444 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: to be out this week due to having attend to 445 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 1: a matter out of state in Texas and then having 446 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 1: to go through rego through protocols. What does that do 447 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: to this offense? And what has this offense been like 448 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 1: over the year with Sam Darnold being in and out. 449 00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 1: What's the overall status of this offense at this point? Well, 450 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 1: the offfense stinks. I mean, let's be honest. I mean 451 00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,160 Speaker 1: they've been thirty second in the league. I think since 452 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: Week one, maybe week two, and last week was actually 453 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: their best showing. They ran the ball really well and 454 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 1: in fact, it was the first two hundred yard rushing 455 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: game they've had since twenty eighteen, and so I think 456 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,520 Speaker 1: they're going to try to reproduce you reproduce that against 457 00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: Seattle's defense. But Bill miss Nims, he's been a very 458 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: h He's a promising rookie. He's really good on fifty 459 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 1: fifty balls. He's averaging the seventeen yards of catch, so 460 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: he was able to stretch the field. So they'll probably 461 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: replace him with Jeff Smith, who's just a guy. The 462 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: other two receivers have been doing well, Brushad Perriman and 463 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: their slot guy Jamison Crowder. You know, those guys can 464 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: be productive at times, so you know, the Jets do 465 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 1: have some I don't think Seattle can sleep on the 466 00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 1: Jets passing game, even though so wildly inconsistent. They do 467 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: have some big play guys. I mean, Harriman is one 468 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: of the fastest guys in the league and if you're 469 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,359 Speaker 1: not careful, he'll get over the top, so they have 470 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: to be careful with him. And the running game is 471 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: like I said last week, I think it was more 472 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: of a fluke than anything. Vegas was just the run 473 00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: defense is not very good. So so yeah, they'll miss 474 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: Mims and I think that they Jets will end up 475 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: struggling on offense in this game. I want to make 476 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 1: sure I'm reading this right. Adam Gase was surprised by 477 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: Jamal adams criticism. You were about that for ESPN dot Com. 478 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: Did that surprise you that he said that, No, because 479 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 1: I think you may have said that before when when 480 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,400 Speaker 1: the trade first went down. We all know that Jamal 481 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,359 Speaker 1: was miserable here. The losing got to him, and I 482 00:23:48,359 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 1: think he's been pretty open about talking about that. And 483 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: on the way out he torched Adam Case. I mean 484 00:23:56,320 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: it was, you know, he just uh, it was about 485 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: a day before the trade, and I think he knew 486 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: he was getting traded, so I think he figured, what 487 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: the hell, I'll just take my shots now, and he 488 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: ripped him in one of the newspapers, and Adam said 489 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 1: he was surprised. He said he thought he had a 490 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,719 Speaker 1: good relationship, you know, with Jamal. Obviously that was a 491 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: one sided view. Jamal did not feel the same way, 492 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: and you know, it was a it was a really 493 00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 1: it would have been really tough to keep Jamal this 494 00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: year because of just how miserable he was, and especially 495 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: with the team doing so poorly. Hey, we talked yesterday 496 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: to Brian Costello from the New York Post, and you 497 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,359 Speaker 1: know what I didn't mean to I was kind of 498 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: clowning on Gays. I mean, I think I know that 499 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: he's a nice guy and everything, but Brian was kind 500 00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: of defending him and saying more. You know, it was like, look, 501 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,200 Speaker 1: he has a garbage roster, and how does he come off? 502 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that back East, it's it's tough. 503 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: I mean, the New York media can can be tough 504 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 1: a little bit tougher than we are here in Seattle. 505 00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: And but I got the sense that he actually cared 506 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 1: for him little bit. I mean, what kind of guy's 507 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 1: Adam Gase? I mean there's two, there's two Adam Gases. 508 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 1: I mean the public. Adam Gase is universally despised by 509 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: Jets fans. Now, I've been covering the Jets for thirty 510 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: two years. I've never encountered a coach who is more 511 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: disliked by the fan base than Adam Case. And I 512 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, as you know, the Jets have had some 513 00:25:21,240 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: really bad coaches and some really bad teams. I would say, 514 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 1: without a doubt, Adam is the most disliked coach. And 515 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: some of that is social media too. I mean, back 516 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,080 Speaker 1: I mean Rich co Tight in the nineties was it 517 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: was a terrible coach. But you know, social media wasn't around, 518 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,000 Speaker 1: and so he probably didn't get it as hard as Adam. 519 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: But Adam gets crushed. You know, anything he says, he 520 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: gets crushed. There's another side to Adam Gase where I 521 00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: actually do like him personally, you know, in one on 522 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: one private setting, he actually does have a personality which 523 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: I think he I told him he should show it 524 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: more in public. You know, the fans I think would 525 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,520 Speaker 1: appreciate it, but he really doesn't. And so that's why 526 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: the fans have really turned on him. Rich And really 527 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: the fact that they're rowing twelve is a big reason. Yeah, 528 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,680 Speaker 1: that does play a factor into it, no doubt. Rich. 529 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 1: Talking about Adam Gaze, it's surprising that at this point 530 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: in time that with everything that has happened, that Adam 531 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 1: Gaye still has a job. Quite frankly, is this the 532 00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: part where they're just trying to get through the year 533 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: and you know all these different you know, people around 534 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,320 Speaker 1: the country have joked around about tanking this, that and 535 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: the other. Um what is? What is? Do you think 536 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:35,880 Speaker 1: the idea of keeping Gaze there just to have some 537 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,160 Speaker 1: semblance of stability through the year amongst a tumultuous time. 538 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 1: What's your take on that, Rich? Yeah, I think it's 539 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:46,879 Speaker 1: one of the biggest sports mysteries of our time. You know, 540 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: just why why is he still employed? And h I 541 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 1: think the Jets ownership decided early in the year. You know, 542 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: they was a really bad loss to Denver in a 543 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 1: primetime Thursday game and we four where there was some 544 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: thought to maybe going into that mine buy that he 545 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 1: would be in serious trouble. And when he survived that 546 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:10,040 Speaker 1: and I kind of figured he would make it through 547 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: the year. One of the reasons why is they just 548 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: didn't think Greg Williams would be a good interim coach, 549 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, which I think I think that was proved 550 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:20,160 Speaker 1: after it. I mean, they just didn't want to make 551 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: Greg because some of the stuff he said and the 552 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: way he conducted himself publicly. The team didn't want to 553 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: make him the face of the franchise for the rest 554 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: of the year. So that's one of the reasons why 555 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: Adams still has a job. And you know, the Johnson family, 556 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: they've owned the team for twenty years. They've never fired 557 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: a coach in the middle of the year, even though 558 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 1: they've had opportunities, and so I think they just figured, 559 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: let's just suck it up and ride this out to 560 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,520 Speaker 1: the very end. And I can assure you that probably 561 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: three or four hours after the final game is played 562 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: this year, on Week seventeen, that the Jets will announce 563 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: that they're changing their coaches. All right, Rich, we've really 564 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,320 Speaker 1: really appreciated your interview. Good stuff here. That was ESPN 565 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,120 Speaker 1: Jets reporter Rich Samini. Rich, thanks again for joining us. 566 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 1: All right, my pleasure, thank you. Coming up next, we're 567 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: gonna bring on Ray Roberts, going the trenches, talk about 568 00:28:09,080 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: this offensive line that's next on the huddle. This is 569 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 1: the huddle appresented by Big Fout four every Thursday from 570 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:24,120 Speaker 1: noon to two on seven ESPN Seattle. Welcome back to 571 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 1: the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keats, and Stacy Ross. 572 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 1: We are going in the trenches with Ray Roberts, host 573 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,879 Speaker 1: of the Seahawks Spree and postgame show. Ray, how are you. 574 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: I'm hanging in up, buddy. How about you? Guys? Good good? 575 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, previewing this upcoming game against the Jets, 576 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the offensive line specifically before 577 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: we do that. Actually, no, let's go ahead and jump 578 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 1: right into that because Brandon Shell has a good chance 579 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 1: to get back this week. Obviously they were down to, 580 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 1: you know, the fourth guy on the depth chart. Without 581 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: him in there, what's he meant to this offensive line? 582 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: Because I have to be really honest, Ray, I did 583 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: not expect him to be as good as he has 584 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: been this year. Yeah, I think I think he's surprised 585 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 1: a lot of people about the level of his play. Um, 586 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:15,040 Speaker 1: I think the thing I've been more impressed with is 587 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: the consistency of that level. So, you know, the guy 588 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: we had before, you know, we had games where he's good, 589 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: and then to beat a stretch of games where he's bad, 590 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 1: and then a play where he was good, and two 591 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: or three plays where he's bad. And Brennan has been 592 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 1: able to just be a really steady force since since 593 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: they put him into the starting lineup, and uh and 594 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: he seemed to be getting better each week, So it's 595 00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,600 Speaker 1: not like he was standing in the same place and 596 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: being consistent. He was also improving and growing as it 597 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 1: went on. Like I could see the just the communication 598 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: and the work between uh Shell and uh Damon Lewis 599 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: just got the double teams got better. It seems like 600 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: their ability to pass off line stunts and things in 601 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: the past game were better. Uh And then, like I said, 602 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: when you don't hear his name a whole, that's always 603 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: a good thing because that means that there's not a 604 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,479 Speaker 1: whole bunch of penalties and and he's not giving up 605 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,680 Speaker 1: a whole lot of uh defenders running at receivers, I 606 00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: mean running too quarterback or a running back. Ray, we 607 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: know how you feel about running the ball. So and 608 00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: I was kind of carrying the torch for you early 609 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: on in the show here, and you know, I was like, look, 610 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 1: I know that Ray is gonna gonna say this, but 611 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: is it Is it more about like when you are 612 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: run blocking, like you're more aggressive. You you're more offensive 613 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: than when you're pass blocking. It's like you're you're being defensive. 614 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,120 Speaker 1: You know, you're just kind of trying to impede him. 615 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: You're not really you know, gonna snot bubble anybody in 616 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:46,040 Speaker 1: a pass blocking situation. And you know, is that what 617 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: gets offensive Lineman fired up? I mean because it just 618 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: seems like every single one of them that when you 619 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 1: ask them, they'd much rather run block than pass block. Yeah. 620 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: And some people will say that you want to run 621 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: block because this is easier and pass blocking, and uh, 622 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 1: that is not true either. Even if if a pass 623 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: blocking i mean run blocking is easier, that's not the 624 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: reason you want to do it. But when you were 625 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: a little kid days and you were growing up playing 626 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,320 Speaker 1: the football game. Uh. Part of the fun of it 627 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:16,920 Speaker 1: was that you got to not to crap out of 628 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:21,560 Speaker 1: people like it like and not get in trouble exactly. 629 00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,080 Speaker 1: So you got to get in a fifth sight every 630 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: day at practice and in every single game, and you 631 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: didn't get attention, you didn't getting locked up, you didn't 632 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: get put on you know, you didn't get put on 633 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: punishment by your your your parents like all those different things. 634 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: People were actually patting you on the back for doing it. 635 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: And so. Uh So then you when you get become 636 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman, a lot of that gets taken away. 637 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: When you're just out there pass blocking. You cannot impose 638 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: your will on another defender. On a defender by pass blocking, 639 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,120 Speaker 1: you just can't. I don't care how strong your hands 640 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: are or how hard you try to punch him. Uh. 641 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: In your pass detection technique, it's not the same as 642 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: when you go chest to chess with a dude and 643 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: he is using all his strengths. You're using all your 644 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: strength and you're using your technique and all that, and 645 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: you get to pile drive this dude into the ground 646 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Speaker 1: and when you land on top of them, you're here 647 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 1: to air go out of their body, like there's something 648 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,800 Speaker 1: to that if you don't that you don't get when 649 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 1: you're when you're pass blocking. The other part of it, too, Dave, 650 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: is that just like as a quarterback and receiver, throughout 651 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: the game, you're trying to figure out how the how 652 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: a defensive back is going to play a certain coverage 653 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: or how they're gonna play a certain route, or you know, 654 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,200 Speaker 1: how you you're you're kind of keeping tracking your mind 655 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: of how they're how they're the defense is moving, uh 656 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: in the past game, Well, in the when you're run blocking, 657 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 1: you're doing the same thing like you're you're trying to 658 00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:44,239 Speaker 1: set up your game as you go along. So I know, like, hey, 659 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 1: if we're gonna run zone to the left side, this 660 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: is defensive end, this is how he's gonna play it. 661 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: Or if we're gonna double team the tackle houses double 662 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 1: house to tackle playing the double team, how is the run? 663 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: How's the linebacker playing over the top runs or hanging 664 00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: hanging back like all those different kinds of things. And 665 00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:00,840 Speaker 1: it's hard to figure out when you're when you're only 666 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 1: getting to do that sporadically and then all of a 667 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: sudden in the fourth quarter, you're trying to run the 668 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:06,719 Speaker 1: flock out to win the game, and they're going, hey, 669 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: let's go run the ball, and so you haven't had 670 00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: a chance to even set up all those things or 671 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: to calculate all of that information as the game is 672 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 1: going on. And so that's why I feel like playing 673 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:20,080 Speaker 1: offensive line is the most misunderstood position in all of 674 00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: sports because people just don't understand all the things that 675 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: go into trying to make sure that you're able to 676 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 1: be aggressive and run blocker dude, and then also be 677 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 1: able to contain that aggressiveness and pass block a guy, 678 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:33,840 Speaker 1: and then all the technique and stuff that goes that's 679 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: involved in all of that. So it's a long winded answer, 680 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:39,400 Speaker 1: but I was praying that somebody would give ask the 681 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: question in a way that I could that I could 682 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: share that because I'm telling you, man, like, when you 683 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: watch this offensive line and you see them get the 684 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: running game going, watch how they look, how lighter they 685 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: are on their feet when they go back to the huddle. 686 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,520 Speaker 1: Look at the look at the desjoy that's on their faces. 687 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: After a touch they rush for a touchdown and to 688 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,120 Speaker 1: go to the sideline. Look at the celebration they have 689 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: with Chris Carson when he scores a touchdown on Carlinos High. 690 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: They want to run the football, They are good at it, 691 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: and they want more opportunities. Last week, I don't think 692 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,760 Speaker 1: they ran the ball twice in the road. The entire 693 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 1: game they ran, they would run the ball, playos and pass, 694 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: run the ball, flash and pass, run the ball, flash 695 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: and pass. So not once did you ever get to 696 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: get into a rhythm with the run game, or with 697 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: the running back, or understanding how they're playing the double 698 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: team or the linebackers are flying over the top, or 699 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: however however that goes. Not once did you get a 700 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 1: chance to do that? And so then and so then 701 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: if you get into a crucial moment and then you 702 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 1: call the running playing, it doesn't work. Oh we'll see. 703 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: That's why we can't run the ball. We gotta throw it. Well, 704 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: we throw the ball forty five times, you throw it 705 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: running fourteen times. There's a you know, there's someone's not 706 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: getting into a rhythm with that ray. It's been fascinating 707 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: to watch this offense in their approach over the last 708 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 1: three weeks. I would say, when you look at the 709 00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: car Arizona Cardinals game, Uh, you and I I felt 710 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,400 Speaker 1: like we were giving each other a virtual high five 711 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: through these radio waves in terms of that game plan 712 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: and the way that they were able to execute. You 713 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: look at the Eagles game, it didn't necessarily work out 714 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:11,720 Speaker 1: the way that that the Seahawks offense would have liked 715 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 1: and the way that they tried to attack the Eagles. 716 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: But then they go into this Giant's game and I 717 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: feel like they almost overdid it the other way in 718 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,799 Speaker 1: terms of their game plan attacking downfield, and you talk 719 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: about not running the ball, you know, twice in a row. 720 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,280 Speaker 1: It just it's I've had a hard time this week 721 00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:31,879 Speaker 1: with the game plan in particular Ray Just my mind 722 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: has been blown by that simple fact because they were 723 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: in they made no bones about what they were going 724 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: to do in this game. Playing too high coverage. They 725 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: weren't going to let themselves get beat over the top, 726 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,280 Speaker 1: and that gave plenty of opportunity to run the ball, 727 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,440 Speaker 1: to get the ball out of Russell Wilson's hands quicker. 728 00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,640 Speaker 1: It put the offensive line in a tough spot holding 729 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: on the ball. So what have you made of the 730 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,520 Speaker 1: lack of identity of this team over the last few weeks. Yeah, 731 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: I think that's exactly it, the lack of identity. And 732 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: to me, honestly, like nobody will ever admit this, but 733 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: I think that they they're trying to appease too many people. 734 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:12,560 Speaker 1: They're trying to make sure that Russell gets his opportunities 735 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: to throw the ball, but trying to make sure that 736 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: that DK is getting his opportunities to keep you know, 737 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,799 Speaker 1: you know, doing what he does. Uh, you know, I 738 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:24,319 Speaker 1: just think that they're trying to figure out, you know, 739 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,880 Speaker 1: how Pete wants to still keep his identity you know, 740 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: uh into the team, and and they no one's ever 741 00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,279 Speaker 1: gonna say like, yeah, that's going on. There's gonna be 742 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: all these other reasons, you know, like oh, when we 743 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 1: were stubborn, like and like we kept trying to do it, 744 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: and we're stubborn, they weren't giving to it a subverorn Well, 745 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,840 Speaker 1: that sounds great, like a cool, you know answer to 746 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: the question, but but the reality of the question is 747 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: that it's just I feel like too many people are 748 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: trying to be served and the only thing that needs 749 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: to be served is trying to win the freaking football game. 750 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: And that means stand ahead of the change. When you 751 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,400 Speaker 1: can making first downs converting first downs into touchdowns. And 752 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: so there were a lot of opportu tune of these 753 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,239 Speaker 1: yardists that they left on the field, uh last week, 754 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: especially in the running game, and I'm sure in the 755 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,799 Speaker 1: passing game there's areas where you can see where they 756 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: could have dumped it off to the tight end or 757 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 1: quick slats or this and the other thing, you know 758 00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: Michael Bamas was talking about. But in the running game 759 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: and going at at half time, Chris Carson was averaging 760 00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 1: almost nine yards to carry and then and then he 761 00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: came out the second half. The very first time we 762 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: touched the ball, he ran for ten yards and then 763 00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 1: we didn't and then we just would never run it 764 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: again right after that, And so there was so much 765 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: yardishs left on the field because I just felt like 766 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,400 Speaker 1: they're kind of like my mom would say, they were 767 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,520 Speaker 1: stuck with TwixT them between, like they didn't they didn't 768 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: know exactly where who they were, who, how they wanted 769 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: to go about it, how they're gonna get to accomplished, 770 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 1: how what the outcomes were going to be. And it's 771 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 1: almost like they they didn't do this, but it's almost 772 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:48,440 Speaker 1: they just put their head in the sand. It was 773 00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:50,480 Speaker 1: like well, it's the Giants. Hopefully we'll just win this 774 00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 1: game somehow. And uh, and that's too bad because they 775 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,719 Speaker 1: have this team cannot make any excuses about weapons. They 776 00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: have an MVP caliber quarterback. They have a top five 777 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: or six or seven caliber running back. DK metcalfis easily 778 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,600 Speaker 1: you know, one or two top receivers in the league. 779 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,600 Speaker 1: Title Lockett isn't far far behind him. They got a 780 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl feature Hall of Famer at left tackle. They 781 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: have a high draft pick at right guard as planned 782 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 1: like great football, like veteran type football. They have other 783 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: pieces they brought into a performing well. So there's no 784 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,319 Speaker 1: excuse for them to not know exactly what they want 785 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,239 Speaker 1: to do and how to go about doing it against anybody. 786 00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,239 Speaker 1: Whether it's the best team to the league, go to 787 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,000 Speaker 1: the worst team in the league, well said Ray favorite 788 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: version of Ray Roberts, Ray Roberts, go give him a 789 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:46,800 Speaker 1: follow if you aren't already Seahawks fans at Big Ray Roberts. 790 00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: You can hear him every single Thursday right here on 791 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: the huddle for his Special in the Trenches segment, and 792 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,040 Speaker 1: you can also hear him as part of the Seahawks 793 00:38:54,040 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: pre and postgame show. So that means you can hear 794 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: him once again this weekend. You don't have long to wait. 795 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:02,759 Speaker 1: Thanks Ray, Yeah, thank you. Guys. Have a going all right. 796 00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,759 Speaker 1: Coming up next on the huddle, we're gonna be talking 797 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: to Jaren Reid. We're also gonna go over what Adam 798 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:14,280 Speaker 1: Gase had to say about the Seahawks. That's next Thursday 799 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: from noon to two. Appreciated by Bickford. Four. Welcome back 800 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: into the huddle with Dave Wyman, Jay Keats, and Stacy Ross. 801 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 1: We're getting you guys ready for the seahawks upcoming game 802 00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: against the Windless Jets. Now, that's going to include an 803 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,760 Speaker 1: interview with Seahawks defensive lineman Jaron Reid. He'll be joining 804 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,480 Speaker 1: us in just a couple of minutes. Before we get 805 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: to that, let's talk about Adam Gase, head coach of 806 00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: the Jets, had some cuts that we want to get to. 807 00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: He was first talking about the loss that they experienced 808 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: to the Raiders. So here's what we're gonna do. I 809 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,800 Speaker 1: want to ask Jake Heaps and Dave Wyman, you guys 810 00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,240 Speaker 1: about just moving past losses, the mentality of the team 811 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: doing that. And you've got two teams coming in coming 812 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,879 Speaker 1: off of a loss. So first let's get to cutting 813 00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: the before. Here's Gas talking about getting by that doing 814 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 1: the virtual meetings is that's probably the one part that 815 00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,839 Speaker 1: really is annoying, because you really want to, like, our 816 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:12,280 Speaker 1: guys help the coaches pull you out of the funk, 817 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,279 Speaker 1: because these guys come in here with the energy they 818 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,960 Speaker 1: need to come in here, wasn't They're ready to go, 819 00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,440 Speaker 1: and you know that helps more than anything. Jake, in 820 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,440 Speaker 1: a weird way, is this a game to see like 821 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: which team can better bounce back and compartmentalize their recent 822 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:29,280 Speaker 1: struggles less recent for the drafts? Yeah, and that should 823 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,200 Speaker 1: obviously go towards the Seahawks. I mean, when we're talking 824 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:35,239 Speaker 1: about an O and twelve Jets team and you just 825 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,520 Speaker 1: listen to Adam Gaze, there there's two different, very very 826 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 1: different philosophies in terms of how to lead your team. 827 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:45,200 Speaker 1: You know, Adam Gaze saying that, hey, we're as a staff, 828 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 1: we're so down in the dumps that we needed are 829 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: players to take us out of it. That you know, 830 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: these virtual meetings that thank goodness, the players are coming 831 00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: and showing up and doing their job because it's been 832 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: really hard for us and throwing a pity party. Whereas 833 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll, he's not letting anybody throw a pity party. 834 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: He is focused on, you know, carrying the message of 835 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,279 Speaker 1: continuing to stay focused, to continue to keep having a 836 00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:11,200 Speaker 1: championship mindset, having tremendous energy and and and so there's 837 00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:14,120 Speaker 1: just two very different philosophies. And you can see why 838 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 1: one has been wildly successful and one is one of 839 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,040 Speaker 1: the greatest coaches to ever coach this game, and one 840 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,319 Speaker 1: is going to be finding his way out the door 841 00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:27,879 Speaker 1: here over the next couple of weeks. I love my 842 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: mom used to use the phrase pity party and don't 843 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: have a pity party. Now, I love that. That's You're 844 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:37,759 Speaker 1: exactly right, Jake. I mean, look, there's only Pete has 845 00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:41,240 Speaker 1: always been the guy who's like, you know, you can't 846 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,719 Speaker 1: refuse to accept the situation. And and I have a 847 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,520 Speaker 1: tendency to grind over things a little bit and laments 848 00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 1: what Chuck used to call it. He called it the 849 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: loser's lament. WOULDA shoulda, coulda? You know? He would you know, 850 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 1: and you just it's basically just focusing on, you know, 851 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: what's happened and already and so there's nothing you can 852 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:05,680 Speaker 1: do about it. But you know, I think you're You're 853 00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: absolutely right that's the difference between them as coaches and 854 00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: then you know, but but I have to say, it's 855 00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: it's been really difficult. I think Gays brought up a 856 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,160 Speaker 1: good point there that you know, a lot of getting 857 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,959 Speaker 1: the coaches to move past it, and everybody is having 858 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,799 Speaker 1: the energy of the young guys that are coming in 859 00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: and you know, they're excited and they want to play again, 860 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, and look, you love the game, and that's 861 00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: part of it that I'm sure the coaches are missing. 862 00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 1: I know I am. I mean being down there talking 863 00:42:32,160 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: to the players. I miss being around those guys. Kind 864 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:39,080 Speaker 1: Number six Adam Gay sounds fired up about that loss 865 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: to the Raiders. Were you in a funk after that loss? Yeah? 866 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,919 Speaker 1: I was justus. I felt like her guys played well. 867 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,000 Speaker 1: Onto guys, Dave, I'll start with you. The Jets have 868 00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: lost every one of their games this year, so I 869 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: don't know if one loss just hurts more this one 870 00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: they came within thirteen seconds of winning. Do you think 871 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,920 Speaker 1: there's any amount of kind of firepower I have because 872 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:04,759 Speaker 1: of that lass specifically coming into this game. I don't know, man, 873 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 1: I think that might be one of those that kind 874 00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: of crushes your spirit a little bit. And you hear him, 875 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that's a great attitude as far as 876 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 1: being a leader. H You know, I haven't really been 877 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: around Adam Gays or seeing that much other than you know, 878 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:22,279 Speaker 1: you see how he is with in the media every 879 00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,040 Speaker 1: once in a while with the googly eyes and yeah, 880 00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,080 Speaker 1: the whole thing there. But yeah, that's that's that's not 881 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: a great attitude and not a good way to approach it. 882 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:35,360 Speaker 1: So that no, that's to me, if anything, and especially 883 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 1: hearing him talk about it, it's more deflating than anything else. Well, Dave, 884 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:43,960 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. I mean, we've talked 885 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:46,400 Speaker 1: about this multiple times that you always come in and 886 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: you respect your opponent and you treat every opponent like 887 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,400 Speaker 1: like it's a championship game. But is there any excuses 888 00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:58,600 Speaker 1: for this Seahawks team not to win by double digits here? 889 00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,560 Speaker 1: And I don't mean like a huge blow up, but 890 00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: I mean at least ten ten points, fourteen points. I mean, 891 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,359 Speaker 1: it's it's it's one of those things that I just 892 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,560 Speaker 1: feel like this team is at a point where they're 893 00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,799 Speaker 1: going to show you whether they're a legit playoff team, 894 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 1: and every legitimate playoff team that has played the Jets 895 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: has has taken care of business. And some of those 896 00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:21,960 Speaker 1: middle of the row teams are are are you know, 897 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 1: fighting for their life to scratch by Let's bookmark this question. 898 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: I love this question. We are going to get back 899 00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,879 Speaker 1: to that, Jake, don't forget that. Joining us right now 900 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,479 Speaker 1: is Seahawks defensive tackle jarn Read. Jared, how are you good? Good? 901 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: You know? I have to start with what's been a 902 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,359 Speaker 1: really impressive defensive turnaround for you guys. I mean, um, 903 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: We've got to be honest. Defense was struggling first couple 904 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: weeks of the season, first half of the season, and 905 00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:50,800 Speaker 1: you guys have really been able to cut down on 906 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: not just the yards given up, but you have a 907 00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:55,560 Speaker 1: different energy about you as a defense at a whole. 908 00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: As a whole, it feels like you guys have been 909 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,759 Speaker 1: the aggressors. Were there any conversations to happened just among 910 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:06,080 Speaker 1: the defensive line with you guys? We just continue to work. Um. 911 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: I think earlier on, you know, everybody was really trying 912 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:13,560 Speaker 1: to write us out and you know, paypoint the finger 913 00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: and saying this wasn't happening. This was happening, This is 914 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,600 Speaker 1: that guy or why we do this or that, you know, 915 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: and we just didn't know where to all the critics 916 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 1: and continue to work every day in practice, and we're 917 00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: going to continue to steal work. You know. The job 918 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,400 Speaker 1: is not finished, nowhere near finished. Um. We want to 919 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,640 Speaker 1: go far deep in the playoffs, you know, possibly super Bowl, 920 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,640 Speaker 1: you know, but we gotta take one game of each 921 00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: other time and that's what we're gonna do. Hey, Jared, 922 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,040 Speaker 1: I think I liked playing with a chip on my 923 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,759 Speaker 1: shoulder and if somebody wrote something bad about me, it 924 00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,799 Speaker 1: would fire me up. Do you do you use that 925 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,080 Speaker 1: a little bit when when you're looking at the media 926 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,680 Speaker 1: to put a little chip on your shoulder. I look 927 00:45:50,719 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: at it him last, honestly, because you know, nobody knows 928 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: what goes on in your house, and I just look 929 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 1: at it as they don't really understanding game and understanding 930 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: what's going on, you know, and their opinions for a reason, 931 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,719 Speaker 1: and me to be an opinion, that's what it is. 932 00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,120 Speaker 1: And you know, not just to continue to do what 933 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:09,359 Speaker 1: I do each and every day, just go to work 934 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:11,760 Speaker 1: and get to work and continue to play my game. 935 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,720 Speaker 1: I could care less what anybody else says about me. Honestly, Jared, 936 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 1: it's been really fun to see, really since Carlos Dunlap 937 00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:24,000 Speaker 1: has has shown up that you've been able to diversify 938 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:26,640 Speaker 1: some of your skill set and showing that you could 939 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,200 Speaker 1: play all across the board. And I know it's something 940 00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: that you felt like you could always do. But you've 941 00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,600 Speaker 1: been given the chance of even seeing you line up 942 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 1: at defensive end a few times. What was that like? 943 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,040 Speaker 1: I know you've been more of an interior guy, but 944 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 1: has that been fun getting opportunities to play on the 945 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,560 Speaker 1: outside of defensive end and show your stuff? Oh? Yeah, 946 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:46,719 Speaker 1: I like to think I'm a revers top player, and 947 00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: now I have a different player all along the whole 948 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,279 Speaker 1: defensive line. Yeah, and that's the type of guy here. 949 00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: You know. It's nothing really in my mind that I 950 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 1: can't do, so either think I can. I could do everything, 951 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, try to help the team out any where 952 00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,400 Speaker 1: I can. So, Jared, were you advocating for that to 953 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,960 Speaker 1: play on the play on the end and let coach 954 00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,840 Speaker 1: see your outside edge rush or how'd that? How'd that 955 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:14,560 Speaker 1: get brought up? You know, Uh, certain situations happens where 956 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:16,840 Speaker 1: I have to be there and you know, and I 957 00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: could do it. You know. There's nothing like I said before, 958 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,280 Speaker 1: you know that I can't do or you know that's 959 00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:24,239 Speaker 1: not hard enough for me to do, you know, just 960 00:47:24,800 --> 00:47:28,200 Speaker 1: part of being versatile, you know. And if it comes 961 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,120 Speaker 1: to me need to do that game, you know I can't. 962 00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:31,520 Speaker 1: You know I could be counting on to do that. 963 00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:33,400 Speaker 1: You know, the more you can love it, you know 964 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: what we say. I want to see you turn that 965 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,719 Speaker 1: corner there, Jared. Yeah, Jared, you're a really confident guy. 966 00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:41,960 Speaker 1: It's been obvious from when you first came here to Seattle, 967 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,239 Speaker 1: but especially now being a leader on this defense, which 968 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:46,640 Speaker 1: is why, Jared, I gotta tell you, man, I was 969 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: a little bit surprised to hear you just now a 970 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,880 Speaker 1: minute ago say possibly super Bowl? Are you a Super 971 00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 1: Bowl team? Oh? Hands down for sure. All right, that's 972 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,560 Speaker 1: what I want to hear. You know, I just don't 973 00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:02,719 Speaker 1: you know away my boundary. You got your spading will 974 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 1: and be humbled about. We gotta work to get there. 975 00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 1: Nothing will be given to us. Yeah, you don't want 976 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:10,800 Speaker 1: to be like the Bolton board guy. That's like Jared 977 00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,680 Speaker 1: Reed says, we're going to Jared Matt, I knew that 978 00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:15,640 Speaker 1: this is Jared saying I played in this league. I 979 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,520 Speaker 1: respect other guys in this leag and you got to 980 00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,759 Speaker 1: earn your keep, but very rich. But I also know 981 00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,120 Speaker 1: Jarn's confident. Yes he is. Yes, y Hey talk about 982 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:26,160 Speaker 1: one of your teammates, Poona Ford. Seems like he's been 983 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,400 Speaker 1: kind of quietly just uh, well not so quietly actually 984 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,360 Speaker 1: he's really been flashing and him Carlos Dunlap, you know 985 00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:35,920 Speaker 1: some of the guys in that room. What kind of 986 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,600 Speaker 1: bond have you guys formed during this which is kind 987 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,400 Speaker 1: of a special season this year with with the COVID 988 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,360 Speaker 1: thing going on. Yeah, we'll start. You know since COVID, 989 00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, we've been glued to each other's mask face 990 00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:55,440 Speaker 1: for so you know, we had plenty of time to 991 00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,080 Speaker 1: look at each other, to our mask each and every day. 992 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:01,279 Speaker 1: And you know, just iver taking we have through the 993 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: masks are amazing. You know, the mask on to him 994 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:09,840 Speaker 1: and some practice, you know, just the eye contact is 995 00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: if outstanding. Man. I mean you don't say it, but 996 00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:19,240 Speaker 1: you know, um, not seriously, but you know we just uh, 997 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,720 Speaker 1: it's a great group. Man. These guys are my friends, 998 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,480 Speaker 1: you know, just at the field off the field and 999 00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: he's taking advantage of his opportunities. You know, if other guys, 1000 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, just alone the defensive line is gonna get 1001 00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:33,399 Speaker 1: the attention and he has the one on one, he's 1002 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,600 Speaker 1: more than capable of winning it. And that's what he's doing. 1003 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 1: He's taking advantage of That's what he's supposed to do. 1004 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:40,440 Speaker 1: Pun is a great player. He's being a great player. 1005 00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:43,319 Speaker 1: I love playing beside him, and you know he's gonna 1006 00:49:43,320 --> 00:49:46,200 Speaker 1: continue to grow. Eventually, you know, he could take over 1007 00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,840 Speaker 1: Puna is a man of few words, though. You know, 1008 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,879 Speaker 1: we talked to him and I like that about him. 1009 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,959 Speaker 1: Does he talk more in the locker room though, because 1010 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,400 Speaker 1: I've seen him from afar back when reporters could actually 1011 00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 1: be in the locker room last year, and he seems 1012 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: like he's talking it up with you guys, and then 1013 00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 1: he gets a little more quiet with reporters. That's my theory. Yeah, 1014 00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,440 Speaker 1: here the thought does. But he still pretty quiet. You know. 1015 00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:13,400 Speaker 1: We pull it about him Jared through the through the 1016 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: game last week against the Giants, you guys had an 1017 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: outstanding game and then the third quarter happens. What is 1018 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:24,799 Speaker 1: that conversation like amongst each other when you give up 1019 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:26,960 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty yards rushing. You guys have been 1020 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,240 Speaker 1: dominating the whole first half, and then you guys settled 1021 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 1: down and you guys really put a lid on it 1022 00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. What does some of those moments 1023 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:35,879 Speaker 1: mean to you guys as a team to kind of 1024 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:40,440 Speaker 1: rally through some adversity and to shut things down in 1025 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:44,160 Speaker 1: that final quarter. Um, you know, well, uh doing of 1026 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:45,719 Speaker 1: course the game, like you said, you know, it was 1027 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: a pretty shut out game. You know, we had the 1028 00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 1: cute the whole time, and they want costing the interviewer 1029 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,399 Speaker 1: to coach had to stay with the round game, which 1030 00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,319 Speaker 1: really wasn't the fact that you know, if you take 1031 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 1: those just two three rounds that spit out that we're 1032 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,319 Speaker 1: major games, which they did a good job on there 1033 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,600 Speaker 1: and scheming it up, and you know, we just had 1034 00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,680 Speaker 1: a lock in, you know, and I mean other than that, 1035 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,040 Speaker 1: you know, it really wasn't nothing they did, you know, 1036 00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,160 Speaker 1: stuff that we did to hurt ourselves. And you just 1037 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:17,200 Speaker 1: got to play all sound football all four quarters and 1038 00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,840 Speaker 1: every time you're on the field, because just all it 1039 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:23,319 Speaker 1: takes one play and then you know it's all held 1040 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,160 Speaker 1: them broke loose, you know, thinking that you know, those 1041 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,080 Speaker 1: guys just came here just rang the ball down I thought, 1042 00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: which they didn't. And so um, we're very confident defense 1043 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 1: and we're pissed off about it. You know, that's not 1044 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 1: a good taste you want to have in your mouth. 1045 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:40,239 Speaker 1: And if something happens the right when, you know, you 1046 00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: never know what, we may get to see him again, 1047 00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:45,440 Speaker 1: and we're gonna show you what's really about, you know, 1048 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: because you know, there was just a lot of chick 1049 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:51,960 Speaker 1: chattering going on. So all right, Jared, we really really 1050 00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,440 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. Best of luck this weekend, 1051 00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: and thanks for talking to us. All right, thanks, all right, 1052 00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:00,919 Speaker 1: that was Seahawks defensive lineman Jared. You just heard from 1053 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,360 Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to this Adam Gays press or 1054 00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: there's a few more cuts. I want you guys to hear. 1055 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,160 Speaker 1: I'm very curious to hear what you're gonna say about this. 1056 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: Plus Jake has a very important question for Dave. That's 1057 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 1: next on the Huddle. This is the Huddle, presented by 1058 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: Bickford Ford every Thursday from noon to two on seven 1059 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,760 Speaker 1: ten ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into the Huddle with Dave Wyman, 1060 00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:25,279 Speaker 1: Jake Keeps, and Stacy Roth let's get back to our 1061 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:28,360 Speaker 1: conversation about Adam Gays. Two teams coming off of losses, 1062 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,359 Speaker 1: the Jets coming off of twelve consecutive losses. Seahawks, though 1063 00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:35,000 Speaker 1: looking to write the ship after taking a couple stumbles 1064 00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 1: on offense. Now they beat the Eagles, but it wasn't 1065 00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:41,080 Speaker 1: the offensive performance that some people wanted to see because 1066 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,000 Speaker 1: it's a high bar to meat after their first well 1067 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: into the third of the season. Obviously a stunning loss 1068 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: to the Giants, but with all the talent in the 1069 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:53,120 Speaker 1: world on offense to write the ship. So, Jake, do 1070 00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 1: you want to get us started? You were asking Dave 1071 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 1: a question right before we brought on Jaren Reid. What 1072 00:52:57,800 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 1: was that question? Yeah, just was asking Dave that you know, 1073 00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 1: we always have these conversations, and Dave, more than anybody else, 1074 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:07,640 Speaker 1: drives this point home. And it's a great point, and 1075 00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,640 Speaker 1: it's it's very true and very real of the NFL. 1076 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,000 Speaker 1: It is so hard to get wins in this league. 1077 00:53:13,360 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 1: But Dave, with everything that we've talked about, with the 1078 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,640 Speaker 1: way that this Jets organization is hurting after that loss, 1079 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,200 Speaker 1: they are struggling as a whole on both the offense 1080 00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,760 Speaker 1: and defensive side. You have a Seahawks team that has 1081 00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:29,680 Speaker 1: a high, high hopes for where they want to go. 1082 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,680 Speaker 1: Is this a game where winning by less than double 1083 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:40,560 Speaker 1: digits or double scores is acceptable? No? Well, I mean 1084 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: I'll just take a win. That's what I always say. 1085 00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,279 Speaker 1: I'll take a win. And earlier I was posing the 1086 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:49,239 Speaker 1: question this is two three weeks ago, like, what if 1087 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,239 Speaker 1: we beat the Jets twenty one to twenty How is 1088 00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:55,520 Speaker 1: everybody gonna think that's like a loss? Possibly? I mean, 1089 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:58,359 Speaker 1: and will you because I always say, you know, repairs 1090 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:01,320 Speaker 1: kind of come gradually in the NFL. I don't feel 1091 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,240 Speaker 1: like they're going to go from getting beat by the Giants. 1092 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:07,560 Speaker 1: But what if nothing big is broken? Two prepares go 1093 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,400 Speaker 1: gradually in the NFL. But DK metcalf is healthy, Russell 1094 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,319 Speaker 1: Wilson's healthy, You're getting Brennan shell back. Yeah, But I mean, 1095 00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 1: is are you all of a sudden do you think 1096 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:17,319 Speaker 1: going to run it for two hundred and fifty yards? Now? 1097 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:20,919 Speaker 1: I don't, yeah, I mean two hundred yards even? Or 1098 00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: do you think that you're all the sudden? Hope you know, 1099 00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:26,640 Speaker 1: you hope this happens. But they get a bunch of takeaways. 1100 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: That's what leads to blowouts as takeaways, so you know, 1101 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:31,480 Speaker 1: if they can get back on that train. But that's 1102 00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:34,200 Speaker 1: something that you know. To me, the biggest concern right 1103 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,000 Speaker 1: now is that it's the takeaways and the running game 1104 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: because if you look at those two stats, they're the 1105 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:43,320 Speaker 1: most indicative other than your record or your points scored 1106 00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. You know, you typically it's seven 1107 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:51,200 Speaker 1: eight of the you know, top ten running teams make 1108 00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,520 Speaker 1: it into the playoffs or they're right on the cusp. 1109 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: Every once in a while there's an anomaly where there's 1110 00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 1: a team that's you know, four and twelve that makes 1111 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,080 Speaker 1: it or doesn't. You know, obviously it doesn't make it in, 1112 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,920 Speaker 1: but they're top ten in turnover ratio or run game. 1113 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,120 Speaker 1: But for the most part, those are two that you know, 1114 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:10,920 Speaker 1: especially for Pete Carroll and his team in the way 1115 00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,640 Speaker 1: they're built that those those are huge. So yeah, I mean, 1116 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. If they do, that'd be a 1117 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: great bonus. But I do not expect them to win 1118 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,960 Speaker 1: by you know, twenty one points or something like that. 1119 00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 1: I'll take a seven point win right now. Jake, do 1120 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:27,640 Speaker 1: you expect them to win by that or would you 1121 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: be happy by them winning by seven or it all 1122 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,200 Speaker 1: depends on them. It all depends on how it looks. 1123 00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 1: But to me, ultimately, obviously we're I don't expect them 1124 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,239 Speaker 1: to win by twenty plus points, but I want to 1125 00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 1: see them win by two scores. I want to see them, 1126 00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:45,239 Speaker 1: you know, ten points, fourteen points. I want to see 1127 00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: them be in full control of this game, both on 1128 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,799 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball, both offensively and defensively. And 1129 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't need to be a fireworks show. It doesn't 1130 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:55,239 Speaker 1: need to be Russell Wilson throwing for you know, four 1131 00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,839 Speaker 1: hundred yards or Chris Carson running for two hundred yards, 1132 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: or you know, having monster games. But if they can 1133 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,120 Speaker 1: methodically drive the ball down the field, if the defense 1134 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: can effectively shut down this Jets offense and treat this 1135 00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:10,600 Speaker 1: team the way that they should be treated, that to 1136 00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: me is going to be very important in terms of 1137 00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 1: my confidence about this team because Dave and Stacy, you 1138 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:19,880 Speaker 1: look at who they're playing against the next three weeks 1139 00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,239 Speaker 1: after that, those are two Those are three very good 1140 00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:26,560 Speaker 1: football teams that I have tremendous respect for, and I 1141 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,040 Speaker 1: just think that they need to have I think defensively, 1142 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,720 Speaker 1: they're building confidence and they're they're growing, but as a 1143 00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,880 Speaker 1: collective team, I would love to see them feel connected 1144 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,879 Speaker 1: and feel them growing together. Yeah, it certainly doesn't get 1145 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,360 Speaker 1: any easier from here at all. And I know that 1146 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: I threw it out the window that any given Sunday, 1147 00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,239 Speaker 1: you know phrase, But it was very much almost a 1148 00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,520 Speaker 1: loss for the Raiders until the final thirteen seconds of 1149 00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:52,160 Speaker 1: that game. We have it just about thirty seconds left here. 1150 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,520 Speaker 1: But Dave this one for you. We haven't had a 1151 00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:57,560 Speaker 1: lot of chance in this segment to talk about Jamal Adams. 1152 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,359 Speaker 1: He gets a chance to go against his former team. 1153 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 1: What's the most important thing for him in this game specifically, Well, 1154 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,360 Speaker 1: I guess just to continue to play with his teammates. 1155 00:57:05,400 --> 00:57:07,120 Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's been a couple of times where 1156 00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: we've seen Chase Edmonds was wide opening the Arizona game 1157 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 1: for a touchdown and it looked like the similar situation 1158 00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:16,479 Speaker 1: that they had the other day to Alfred Morris, where 1159 00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,600 Speaker 1: it was you know, some the miscommunication there. So you 1160 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,240 Speaker 1: know that that needs to continue to get better. But 1161 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he's just such a special player and he 1162 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 1: makes up for everything. If there's ever any lot, you know, 1163 00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:30,800 Speaker 1: mistakes or anything like that, he makes up for it 1164 00:57:30,840 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: with all the pressure that he provides. All right, Seahawks 1165 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: play by play man Steve Rabel joins us. Next, This 1166 00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:41,200 Speaker 1: is the Huddle. This is the Huddle, presented by Bickford 1167 00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,480 Speaker 1: Ford every Thursday from noon to two on seven ten 1168 00:57:45,080 --> 00:57:49,360 Speaker 1: ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into the huddle with Dave Wyman, 1169 00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,000 Speaker 1: Jay Keats, and Stacy Ross joining us. Right now is 1170 00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:55,240 Speaker 1: Seahawks play by play man Steve Rabel. Rabes, how are you? 1171 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you guys good? I mean, we 1172 00:57:58,240 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 1: are just looking to brush off the lost to the Giants, 1173 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: trying to move on from that as soon as we 1174 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: can and look ahead to the Jets before we do that. 1175 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, what's one mistake you do not want to 1176 00:58:09,120 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 1: see repeated from last week's game into this one? Oh? Wow, 1177 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: Well there were there were obviously a number of them. Well, 1178 00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:21,960 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess the most important one that you 1179 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: can't have is you can't have you cannot have turnovers. 1180 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,680 Speaker 1: So Russ had an issue with a snap at one 1181 00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: point and fumbled a snap, and then there was an 1182 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: interception that was not his fault that bounced off of 1183 00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:36,760 Speaker 1: Chris Carson's hands. But two turnovers when you get the 1184 00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:39,160 Speaker 1: ball away twice, there's two more drives that don't go 1185 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,080 Speaker 1: anywhere on top of all the other drives, especially in 1186 00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,680 Speaker 1: the second half where the Seahawks got stopped. And as 1187 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, you guys know Pete, it's it's the number 1188 00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,960 Speaker 1: he preaches, probably more than any other than the final score, 1189 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,160 Speaker 1: and that is if you don't turn the ball over, 1190 00:58:53,240 --> 00:58:57,240 Speaker 1: you have a way better chance of winning. So, yeah, 1191 00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna once in a while you're gonna get hit 1192 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,120 Speaker 1: with a big run some but he's gonna break one free. 1193 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: You gotta recover from that. You can't dwell on it, 1194 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,560 Speaker 1: as the Seahawks seem to do in the third quarter, 1195 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:09,440 Speaker 1: but you just can't give the ball away. Hey, Steve, 1196 00:59:09,480 --> 00:59:11,960 Speaker 1: you know, we were talking about when I played, and 1197 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,600 Speaker 1: it was obviously different because there wasn't the Internet and everything, 1198 00:59:15,640 --> 00:59:18,919 Speaker 1: and when you played there were just smoke signals, I think, 1199 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:24,120 Speaker 1: but there was no TV. Yeah, the game was done 1200 00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:28,400 Speaker 1: over Morris Code, which was interesting. I thought, yeah, all right, 1201 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: you took it to the extreme there. I wasn't gonna 1202 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 1: do that far. But as far as you know, it's 1203 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 1: funny listen to fans, and I think that the players 1204 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 1: still are not as aware of they're playing an O 1205 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,360 Speaker 1: and twelve team as everybody thinks, because you know, you're 1206 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: still just looking at and when I say, hey, look, 1207 00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:49,440 Speaker 1: you're what makes you dangerous as if you're an NFL team, 1208 00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:53,640 Speaker 1: And I don't think people quite get that, but it's 1209 00:59:54,160 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 1: it is. I don't know, are you still in football 1210 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,720 Speaker 1: player mentality? Because I am? And I'm like, hey, if 1211 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 1: you don't play well and you don't execute, you don't 1212 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: do things right, the Jets can beat you. Oh I 1213 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,600 Speaker 1: still am. I mean I get dressed for practice every day, 1214 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: I walk outside and nobody throws me a ball. But 1215 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: that's just the way it used to be too. So no, 1216 01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:18,920 Speaker 1: I heard this the literally in our very first meeting 1217 01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:21,400 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six with Chack Butte, our head coach. 1218 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,120 Speaker 1: The first thing he said to us was we'll tolerate 1219 01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,400 Speaker 1: you till we can replace you. That was the first 1220 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: words out of his mouth in our first team meeting. 1221 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,040 Speaker 1: So that's that's a way of getting to know that 1222 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 1: this is a business. But the second thing he said, 1223 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:37,360 Speaker 1: he held his thumb and his first finger about an 1224 01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:40,680 Speaker 1: inch apart, and he said the level of talent across 1225 01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,880 Speaker 1: the national football league. The difference is only this much. 1226 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,160 Speaker 1: The rest of it is how much you want to work, 1227 01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:50,080 Speaker 1: how well you're coached, how thorough we all are in 1228 01:00:50,080 --> 01:00:54,080 Speaker 1: our preparation, and the determination of this football team to 1229 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: go out and win games. There is a lot of 1230 01:00:56,320 --> 01:00:58,200 Speaker 1: talent spread around this league. There are a lot of 1231 01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:02,240 Speaker 1: talented guys on a twelve team right now who are dying. 1232 01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: They will do anything to win a football game. So 1233 01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: you're right. The players on the Seahawks they know this. 1234 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:11,560 Speaker 1: These are guys who get it. They understand. In fact, 1235 01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 1: most of these guys at one time or another have 1236 01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: had maybe not an O and twelve, but they've been 1237 01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:18,400 Speaker 1: in situations where you know, this is a I don't 1238 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:19,840 Speaker 1: want to say it's a must win, but it's a 1239 01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,640 Speaker 1: certainly you should win, you better win kind of game. 1240 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,760 Speaker 1: And so I think they all understand it, even if 1241 01:01:26,800 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 1: the fans don't ravees. I always always have loved your advice. 1242 01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:37,880 Speaker 1: You've always had good advice. Now, what are the things 1243 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:41,480 Speaker 1: that you look at from this game that you take 1244 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:44,720 Speaker 1: away and say that the Seahawks have to improve in 1245 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,880 Speaker 1: this area or what are the learning lessons for the 1246 01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:51,320 Speaker 1: Seahawks that they can take away moving forward, because as 1247 01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:54,880 Speaker 1: Pete Carrolls came out this week, this is the championship 1248 01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,840 Speaker 1: stretch here, this is the championship run these these four weeks, 1249 01:01:57,840 --> 01:02:00,760 Speaker 1: and they have to get things right right And as 1250 01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: he always says, you know, you can't win it in 1251 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: the first second or third, but you sure can win 1252 01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:07,040 Speaker 1: it in the fourth quarter. And you can also lose 1253 01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:09,560 Speaker 1: it in the fourth quarter. And so you can't. First 1254 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:11,360 Speaker 1: of all, you can't take anybody lightly, and I don't 1255 01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:14,000 Speaker 1: think they will. People have them ready to play, and 1256 01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,440 Speaker 1: the players will have themselves ready to play. You know. 1257 01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,080 Speaker 1: You also have this kind of added bonus of two 1258 01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:21,600 Speaker 1: starters for the Seahawks were former starters for the Jets. 1259 01:02:21,640 --> 01:02:25,439 Speaker 1: They know, all those guys over there, there's nobody the other, 1260 01:02:25,640 --> 01:02:27,640 Speaker 1: you know, besides Shell and Adams who want to win 1261 01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,560 Speaker 1: this game anymore for the Seahawks than those two guys. 1262 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: I guess the advice that I would give, and it's 1263 01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:35,920 Speaker 1: gonna be Dave. You can write this down now. It 1264 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: is going to be one of our keys to the 1265 01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:41,919 Speaker 1: game on Sunday, and that is finish. I just saw 1266 01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:44,840 Speaker 1: so often in that game against the Giants where the 1267 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:48,320 Speaker 1: Hawks didn't finish. Whether it was finish a drive, Finish 1268 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 1: a run, finish a tackle, you know, finish those kinds 1269 01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,520 Speaker 1: of things. It I really think it hurt them. You know, 1270 01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:02,080 Speaker 1: they were the Seahawks were inside in Giants territory. I 1271 01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:03,959 Speaker 1: want to say, five of six times in the first 1272 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,640 Speaker 1: half and got three points, had three points to show 1273 01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:10,120 Speaker 1: for it. I mean, that's that's unacceptable. You can't do that. 1274 01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:12,680 Speaker 1: You blow those guys out of the water. Every moment 1275 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:14,600 Speaker 1: you let them hang in a football game. You give 1276 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:19,840 Speaker 1: them the desire that and the feeling that they can 1277 01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:22,840 Speaker 1: win this game. And ultimately the Giants did. So I 1278 01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,760 Speaker 1: would say finish and everything you do. Bring your legs 1279 01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:28,480 Speaker 1: with you. If you're tackling, if you're running a pass route, 1280 01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:31,560 Speaker 1: explode out of that break. Give your quarterbacks someplace to 1281 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: throw if you're the quarterback, understand what the situation is. 1282 01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Understand you can't take a loss of eighteen yards or 1283 01:03:39,640 --> 01:03:42,640 Speaker 1: fifteen yards on a sack and expect to stay in 1284 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,200 Speaker 1: front of the sticks. So those are those are the 1285 01:03:45,240 --> 01:03:48,720 Speaker 1: things that that's what I would say, be precise, play fast, 1286 01:03:48,840 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 1: play smart, and get on top early and stay on top. 1287 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,760 Speaker 1: Is that more than one thing? Probably? That's great advice. Yeah, 1288 01:03:56,840 --> 01:04:00,280 Speaker 1: great advice. I'm counting it as a wave, a single wave. Sorry, 1289 01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I Dave's back now, Dave, give some smelling salts. He's fine, 1290 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:10,360 Speaker 1: He's fine, Rabes. When you're looking ahead to this game, 1291 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,040 Speaker 1: is there a player that's been a little quiet that 1292 01:04:12,080 --> 01:04:15,480 Speaker 1: you want to see more in this one of our guys? 1293 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:20,600 Speaker 1: I obviously, you know, hopefully, Yeah, he's been quiet only, 1294 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:22,120 Speaker 1: but there are going to be guys on the Jets 1295 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,360 Speaker 1: will definitely be watching because they especially on the defensive side. 1296 01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:28,880 Speaker 1: They got they got a defensive vand who's coming in 1297 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:32,000 Speaker 1: with six sacks Williams. I mean, he can play. That's 1298 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,520 Speaker 1: what the that's what the scary thing about the Jets is. 1299 01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,600 Speaker 1: You know, they've got a pretty decent defense. Now they've 1300 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:40,040 Speaker 1: had a coach who's insane and who's no longer there, 1301 01:04:40,520 --> 01:04:42,720 Speaker 1: but you know, they they've got some guys who can 1302 01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: make plays. But we're talking about our guys. I would 1303 01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:49,240 Speaker 1: like to see just because I love him as a 1304 01:04:49,280 --> 01:04:51,000 Speaker 1: person and a player, but I would like to see 1305 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:54,240 Speaker 1: Tyler go off on these guys. You know, I know 1306 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:57,120 Speaker 1: DK gets a lot of the publicity, and well he 1307 01:04:57,160 --> 01:05:01,120 Speaker 1: should both here and nationally, and Tyler just very quietly. 1308 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,439 Speaker 1: If you ask anybody around the league they say who's 1309 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,000 Speaker 1: the leading receiver on the Seahawks, they'd say dk Metcal Well, 1310 01:05:06,040 --> 01:05:09,160 Speaker 1: it's not. It's it's Tyler Lockett. And I'd like to 1311 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: see him have a great game. And I think he 1312 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: can because this is a team that can get after 1313 01:05:15,320 --> 01:05:18,200 Speaker 1: the quarterback a little bit, but they can also they 1314 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,200 Speaker 1: have some defensive linemen they can shut down the run, 1315 01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,840 Speaker 1: but they're also susceptible in the back end. And I 1316 01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,240 Speaker 1: think if they bring the kind of blitzes, or at 1317 01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: least some of the blitzes that they have brought in 1318 01:05:29,200 --> 01:05:31,959 Speaker 1: the past under Greg Williams, they're gonna be some open 1319 01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: areas for Tyler to get to and for Russell to 1320 01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,880 Speaker 1: throw too. And so I'd like to see Tyler just 1321 01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,240 Speaker 1: go off and have a really big game, maybe another 1322 01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:42,600 Speaker 1: three touchdown game. It sure would be great. Rads, I 1323 01:05:42,640 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 1: want to hold you to a score. But I guess 1324 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:48,000 Speaker 1: I'm not expecting some ridiculous blowout here. I think they're 1325 01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:50,760 Speaker 1: gonna win. You know, I don't want to say even comfortably. 1326 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: I just think that they're gonna win. I don't think 1327 01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:54,400 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a one point game, But I don't 1328 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: think that they're gonna win by three touchdowns. What kind 1329 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,880 Speaker 1: of game do you do you think it's gonna be? 1330 01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:01,600 Speaker 1: What how I mean? Are the Seahawks going to repair 1331 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,160 Speaker 1: quickly here or do you think it's going to be 1332 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:07,360 Speaker 1: kind of a slow fix? Well? I think I think 1333 01:06:07,400 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: one thing is they're all They may be listening to 1334 01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,400 Speaker 1: social media or the public when it comes to the 1335 01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 1: fact that the Jets are an O and twelve team 1336 01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,160 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks ought to roll over them. But I 1337 01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,960 Speaker 1: guarantee you, amongst themselves, they know that they stepped in 1338 01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:26,800 Speaker 1: it against the Giants. That was a team that they 1339 01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 1: This is one of the things and we talked about 1340 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 1: it last week, Dave. You need to beat the teams 1341 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,680 Speaker 1: you're supposed to beat. The Giants were a team they 1342 01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: should have beaten. And if, as Chuck used to say, 1343 01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,600 Speaker 1: if it was just done on paper, you take your 1344 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,040 Speaker 1: game plan out to the middle of the field and 1345 01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 1: toss it out there and see what happens. But it's not. 1346 01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,600 Speaker 1: It's played between the lines and not on paper. You 1347 01:06:47,640 --> 01:06:49,680 Speaker 1: need to get on top of these guys early. Do 1348 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 1: not give them any hope at all of winning this 1349 01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: football game. Forced Sam Darnold to throw the ball, because 1350 01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,160 Speaker 1: that's where the Seahawks will have the most opportunity to 1351 01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,280 Speaker 1: win this game. Because darwind one has five touchdowns and 1352 01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:05,080 Speaker 1: nine interceptions. Granted he missed some time this season with 1353 01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,480 Speaker 1: an injury, but you know, he's just not that good 1354 01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 1: at quarterback. He's not that accurate. He's he doesn't read 1355 01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:14,440 Speaker 1: defenses very well, and he's not great when it comes 1356 01:07:14,440 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 1: to getting out of trouble. Get these guys down early, 1357 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,960 Speaker 1: whether it's run or throw. I don't care. Get a 1358 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,520 Speaker 1: big playoff special teams, but do something to break their 1359 01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:25,200 Speaker 1: back early and and then make it a short game 1360 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 1: in the second half by running the football. He is 1361 01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,760 Speaker 1: the voice of the Seahawks, Steve Rabel. Unfortunately for you, 1362 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,840 Speaker 1: Save you will you, Steve, you will be talking to 1363 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:35,880 Speaker 1: Dave again this weekend. Just best of luck with that. 1364 01:07:36,160 --> 01:07:38,560 Speaker 1: That can't be. I'll do. I'll do what I have. 1365 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,840 Speaker 1: Our Sundays together are very special to me. Well, Dave can't. 1366 01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,280 Speaker 1: He's excited. Bell, Okay, you're in my thought race. All right, 1367 01:07:46,320 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: all right, guys, thanks for joining us. All right, Hey, 1368 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:50,840 Speaker 1: Seahawks fans, you're gonna want to listen to seven ten 1369 01:07:51,080 --> 01:07:54,360 Speaker 1: ESPN Seattle all day long tomorrow because we're bringing back 1370 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,960 Speaker 1: our Blue Friday code Word contest for another week for 1371 01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,480 Speaker 1: your chance to win a two hundred dollar a gift 1372 01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,880 Speaker 1: card to the Seahawks Pro Shop. Learn more at seven 1373 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 1: tenth sports dot com slash win. We've got our blueprints 1374 01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,720 Speaker 1: to beating the New York Jets. That's next. This is 1375 01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:13,520 Speaker 1: the Huddle presented by Big Fruit for every Thursday from 1376 01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:18,559 Speaker 1: noon to two on seven ESPN Seattle. Welcome back into 1377 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: the Huddle with Dave Wyman, Jake Keeps, and Stacy Ross. 1378 01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,400 Speaker 1: We're doing this every week now, you guys, Dave, Jake, 1379 01:08:23,439 --> 01:08:25,479 Speaker 1: I need you guys to get your blueprints ready, this 1380 01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,439 Speaker 1: time for beating the New York Jets. I'll tell you 1381 01:08:27,479 --> 01:08:30,400 Speaker 1: mine Number one, start your day with a healthy breakfast, 1382 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: and number two, as always, score more points. What do 1383 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,840 Speaker 1: you think about that day before my first start in 1384 01:08:35,880 --> 01:08:38,920 Speaker 1: the NFL, I had two bowls of fruit loops. Why 1385 01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,639 Speaker 1: that seems bad for your study? All I could eat 1386 01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,720 Speaker 1: and I was really you had no appetite that you 1387 01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,920 Speaker 1: could only have something that was pretty sugary. Oh, it's 1388 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,800 Speaker 1: really nervous. Yeah, And then I threw up the fruit 1389 01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,040 Speaker 1: loops in a garbage count on the way out to 1390 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:56,320 Speaker 1: the field. I always always Dave, were you this way 1391 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: as well? I always on game day struggled. I struggled 1392 01:08:59,360 --> 01:09:02,360 Speaker 1: my stomach, Yeah, just my stomach in general. Just that 1393 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: was always just had the butterflies and the you know, 1394 01:09:05,760 --> 01:09:09,120 Speaker 1: not anxiety but excitement and and you know, do you 1395 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:11,360 Speaker 1: have all this adrenaline that's just ready to kick in. 1396 01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:13,880 Speaker 1: And it's just it's not easy. It's not easy to 1397 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,840 Speaker 1: feel yourself. Our athletes encouraged. This sounds dumb, but I 1398 01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:20,320 Speaker 1: was a swimmer where you're kind of encouraged to not 1399 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,760 Speaker 1: eat on the day of your man. Were you guys 1400 01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:26,599 Speaker 1: kind of encouraged to really load up? Okay? Yeah it was. 1401 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:30,439 Speaker 1: It was big. I couldn't wait. It's it's car beload. 1402 01:09:30,479 --> 01:09:34,200 Speaker 1: You gotta you gotta go all in on the carbs. Uh, 1403 01:09:34,240 --> 01:09:38,080 Speaker 1: that's what they tell But you have But some guys, 1404 01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:40,439 Speaker 1: I mean, they handle it differently. Some guys they sleep 1405 01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:43,360 Speaker 1: and take naps before games. Some guys are just completely 1406 01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,880 Speaker 1: wired up and ready to go. And I was definitely 1407 01:09:46,920 --> 01:09:48,479 Speaker 1: one of those guys that was wired up all right. 1408 01:09:49,600 --> 01:09:53,360 Speaker 1: Bad stomach always bubble gut is mac strongs. I had 1409 01:09:53,360 --> 01:09:58,000 Speaker 1: Bubble gut um mine is run for over one hundred 1410 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:02,439 Speaker 1: and fifty okay, and have least plus two in turnover ratio. 1411 01:10:02,840 --> 01:10:05,320 Speaker 1: So I mean, look, they might give one up. You know, 1412 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,240 Speaker 1: you saw Russ with the fumbled snap, and sometimes that happens, 1413 01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:12,800 Speaker 1: but it's you've got to get a couple. I mean, 1414 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:17,880 Speaker 1: the turnovers have dried up, the takeaways have so yeah, 1415 01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,599 Speaker 1: they got to get that done. Those are two indicative stats, 1416 01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,920 Speaker 1: once again of teams that get into the playoffs. Top 1417 01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,240 Speaker 1: ten running game, top ten turnover ratio. You're making the 1418 01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,080 Speaker 1: playoffs typically seventy eighty percent of the time. So those 1419 01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,719 Speaker 1: two things are the keys. What do you got, Jake, Well, 1420 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:38,519 Speaker 1: so my keys. I think what this offense has to do, 1421 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:42,599 Speaker 1: very simply is they have to recapture their identity and Dave, 1422 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,840 Speaker 1: you'd said through the running game one hundred and fifty yards. 1423 01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:47,240 Speaker 1: I think we have two different approaches as to how 1424 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:50,920 Speaker 1: to get to those one hundred and fifty yards. I 1425 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:52,840 Speaker 1: don't think that this is one where you come out 1426 01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:54,560 Speaker 1: and you stubbornly try to run the ball from the 1427 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 1: get go. But I think that you you get back 1428 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,320 Speaker 1: to what you did so well at the beginning of 1429 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:02,599 Speaker 1: this season not throwing the ball deep down the field. 1430 01:11:03,160 --> 01:11:06,080 Speaker 1: I think that's part of the part that this offense 1431 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 1: has lost itself midway through getting the ball out of 1432 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:13,760 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson's hands, attacking them with Chris Carson and being aggressive. 1433 01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,160 Speaker 1: If the run game is working, like Ray Roberts said earlier, 1434 01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,479 Speaker 1: and you have an eight to ten to twelve yard 1435 01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:22,280 Speaker 1: run with Chris Carson, you go right back to that thing, 1436 01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:25,160 Speaker 1: and you you make a point. But I think in 1437 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:27,519 Speaker 1: this game, you're gonna have to take advantage of this 1438 01:11:27,640 --> 01:11:31,760 Speaker 1: jets horrendous passing defense and not taking deep shots down 1439 01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:34,880 Speaker 1: the field, but getting completions. As I when I first 1440 01:11:34,880 --> 01:11:38,000 Speaker 1: got into college, you know, there was a saying when 1441 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 1: I was at BYU, and it was a mantra that 1442 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:44,160 Speaker 1: Bill Walsh had, and it was completions. Completions. Completions equals 1443 01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:46,960 Speaker 1: first downs, which equals touchdowns. And they have to they 1444 01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,519 Speaker 1: have to focus on marching the ball down the field 1445 01:11:49,800 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 1: rather than getting the big shots down the field. And 1446 01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:56,719 Speaker 1: that to me is going to be a compilation of running, 1447 01:11:57,240 --> 01:11:59,559 Speaker 1: running the ball and getting the ball out quickly and 1448 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:03,080 Speaker 1: letting Russell Wilson make the quick, decisive decisions. I think 1449 01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 1: that's going to help this offense overall. The other thing 1450 01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,439 Speaker 1: is I fully agree with Dave, the turnovers have got 1451 01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:11,519 Speaker 1: to be a key in this game. And lastly, Steve 1452 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:15,240 Speaker 1: Rabel coming on and you can hear his passion in 1453 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 1: terms of the frustration of letting a team that is 1454 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:21,760 Speaker 1: definitely below your talent level come into your building and 1455 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,280 Speaker 1: beat you. And part of that is, as you could 1456 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:26,799 Speaker 1: see and Dave you had talked about this as well, 1457 01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 1: is that as the game went on and the more 1458 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:33,040 Speaker 1: success that the Giants had, the more their confidence built 1459 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:36,000 Speaker 1: up and the better and they played. And with a 1460 01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: Jets team that kind of has that same feel to it, 1461 01:12:39,560 --> 01:12:42,160 Speaker 1: a very young team who is struggling. If you let 1462 01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,200 Speaker 1: them believe and you let them stay in this game 1463 01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 1: at the in the beginning, you're gonna make this game 1464 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,280 Speaker 1: a lot harder than it needs to be. And so 1465 01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:51,000 Speaker 1: they need to come out from the very get go 1466 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:56,040 Speaker 1: start fast, and end this thing and finish as well 1467 01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:59,240 Speaker 1: and stay in control. Yeah. Eugene Robinson, our safety who 1468 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,960 Speaker 1: was doing sideline work and you know color commentary for 1469 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:07,360 Speaker 1: the Carolina Panthers and a lot of people remember Eugene Robinson. 1470 01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,280 Speaker 1: I think, uh I think he's still the second or 1471 01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:12,680 Speaker 1: third leading tackler. But he had this saying that he 1472 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,040 Speaker 1: would he would yell out in game before games like 1473 01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 1: that is um, he would say kill and nat with 1474 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:21,479 Speaker 1: a sledgehammer. So you know, it's a tiny little gnat 1475 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,320 Speaker 1: you probably just need like fly swatter, right, But he's 1476 01:13:24,360 --> 01:13:27,599 Speaker 1: talking about let's overdo it. We're gonna, we're gonna, you know, 1477 01:13:27,760 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: leave no doubt whatsoever, and and that that's something I 1478 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,200 Speaker 1: think that that needs to happen here. Yeah, they need 1479 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:37,559 Speaker 1: to come out with that kind of attitude. And because look, 1480 01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:43,040 Speaker 1: this team is programmed to lose. They they're programmed. It's 1481 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,599 Speaker 1: it's in, it's already in their sort of dna. I mean, 1482 01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,280 Speaker 1: you get on top of them and they're gonna say, 1483 01:13:50,479 --> 01:13:53,400 Speaker 1: here we go again. This is gonna be the thirteenth time. 1484 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,280 Speaker 1: And and you'll see individual guys out there with a 1485 01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: lot of pride that are gonna try to play their 1486 01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:01,679 Speaker 1: tails off. But you heard from their leader, their coach. 1487 01:14:01,920 --> 01:14:04,679 Speaker 1: I mean that was one of the most depressing sort 1488 01:14:04,720 --> 01:14:09,759 Speaker 1: of responses I've ever heard. Yeah, so yeah, that would 1489 01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,360 Speaker 1: that would definitely apply here and get it done. And 1490 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:15,320 Speaker 1: so yeah, and somebody was saying one of the textures 1491 01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,240 Speaker 1: was saying, you know something about how I don't don't 1492 01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 1: just you know, pound your head against the wall. You know, 1493 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,280 Speaker 1: they're they're number thirty two against the past. But I'm 1494 01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:26,960 Speaker 1: still with Ray on this. I'm still like, I just 1495 01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:31,720 Speaker 1: hammer the football and be physical with them, and I think, 1496 01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you can get that done and you 1497 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:37,160 Speaker 1: get on top of them early, this team again, they're 1498 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:40,559 Speaker 1: they're ready to lose. Dave something that you said, the 1499 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:43,400 Speaker 1: Jets are programed to lose. I unfortunately have been a 1500 01:14:43,439 --> 01:14:45,759 Speaker 1: part of one of those programs. It was a shock 1501 01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:47,880 Speaker 1: when I went to the university. When I went to 1502 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:51,040 Speaker 1: Kansas and I was at KU, one of the one 1503 01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,559 Speaker 1: of the worst football programs in the country at this 1504 01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:58,840 Speaker 1: point in time. It was amazing to me coming from 1505 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,599 Speaker 1: my experience in high schoo and coming from a very 1506 01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:04,240 Speaker 1: good program at BYU where they were accustomed to winning. 1507 01:15:04,920 --> 01:15:09,040 Speaker 1: Where you would be in games at Kansas, they would 1508 01:15:09,040 --> 01:15:12,320 Speaker 1: be in it, but the moment some bad play happened 1509 01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,160 Speaker 1: or they got up by you know, two scores, the 1510 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,320 Speaker 1: game was over. It was done. Mentally, you saw guys 1511 01:15:18,320 --> 01:15:21,360 Speaker 1: shut shut down because oh it's here we go again. 1512 01:15:21,439 --> 01:15:23,479 Speaker 1: This is this is what we're used to. This is 1513 01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:27,320 Speaker 1: what we're accustomed to having, and and that's what the 1514 01:15:27,400 --> 01:15:30,000 Speaker 1: Jets are. That's the place that they're in, and it's 1515 01:15:30,080 --> 01:15:32,639 Speaker 1: up to the Seahawks to make them think that way. 1516 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:34,920 Speaker 1: It's up to the Seahawks to take advantage of a 1517 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:39,720 Speaker 1: broken team and organization. And nobody's gonna go do that 1518 01:15:39,720 --> 01:15:41,559 Speaker 1: except for the Seahawks. They gotta go take it. They 1519 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:44,120 Speaker 1: gotta go step up and take it for sixty minutes. 1520 01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,240 Speaker 1: And that's what I'm going to be looking for in 1521 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 1: this game. It's interesting, you know here and that I 1522 01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 1: was on a one and ten team at Stanford and 1523 01:15:51,840 --> 01:15:55,480 Speaker 1: I was on a two and fourteen team with the Seahawks. 1524 01:15:55,479 --> 01:16:00,160 Speaker 1: So I don't remember. I just remember being incredibly frustrated 1525 01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,920 Speaker 1: and not really knowing how to handle it. It was 1526 01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:05,240 Speaker 1: a little easier as a pro because you know, you're 1527 01:16:05,240 --> 01:16:08,000 Speaker 1: a professional, you're grown up. But I remember we lost 1528 01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:11,559 Speaker 1: to Oregon and in the one and ten season. It 1529 01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:14,040 Speaker 1: was my sophomore year at Stanford, and we used to 1530 01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:18,400 Speaker 1: do you know, were the stadium there is like seven 1531 01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,040 Speaker 1: eight hundred yards away from the locker room, and I 1532 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,479 Speaker 1: remember as soon as the game ended, you know, usually 1533 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,040 Speaker 1: we come together as a team down you know, on 1534 01:16:26,080 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 1: the field, and then we you know, make the walk back, 1535 01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:33,120 Speaker 1: the walk of shame. And I remember sprinting right after 1536 01:16:33,160 --> 01:16:37,040 Speaker 1: the game ended, all the way to the loss of No. 1537 01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:41,559 Speaker 1: You know, I mean no, I wasn't I was starting. 1538 01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:43,800 Speaker 1: I had an interception in the game. I was like, 1539 01:16:44,240 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 1: you know, I was playing my tailoff. I was so 1540 01:16:46,640 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 1: frustrated and so angry that yeah, that was you know, 1541 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,200 Speaker 1: And so maybe you're gonna get guys like that too. 1542 01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: But I do, I do think that that year, if 1543 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:59,120 Speaker 1: you would have you know, probably crawled inside my brain, 1544 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 1: you would have said, yeah, you probably knew this was coming, 1545 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:05,280 Speaker 1: because it's happened, you know, another eight or nine times already, 1546 01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:08,680 Speaker 1: all right. And the answers to whether these blueprints will work, 1547 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:10,840 Speaker 1: of course, will come on Sunday when these two teams 1548 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:13,400 Speaker 1: finally meet on the field. Thank you again to John Boyle, 1549 01:17:13,479 --> 01:17:16,360 Speaker 1: Ray Roberts, Rich Samini, and Steve Rabel for joining us 1550 01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,960 Speaker 1: today as we previewed the seahawks upcoming game against the 1551 01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:21,400 Speaker 1: New York Jets. This has been the huddle with Dave Wyman, 1552 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,880 Speaker 1: Jay Keeps, and Stacy Ross. Dave's going to stick around 1553 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 1: for Wyman and Bob So don't go anywhere you're listening to. 1554 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 1: Seven ten ESPN Seattle,