Speaker 1: Welco up to Reality the King.
Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and
Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality
Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience.
Speaker 1: Twice a week on.
Speaker 2: Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends
Speaker 2: across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and
Speaker 2: revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,
Speaker 2: rain drops on today's episode of Ryan.
Speaker 1: I listen Ryan with.
Speaker 3: The King, Yeah, right up, rain drops got the new show.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: I'm laughing because listen, it's Ryan Bailly, our friend. He's
Speaker 2: a rain drop. But what the funniest thing for those
Speaker 2: who can't see us, Ryan's name is what made me
Speaker 2: like lab and call him Ryan with the King. Honey,
Speaker 2: he is going by Ryan scrapped the ball. Welcome to
Speaker 2: the shot Ryot.
Speaker 3: Okay, it is so good to be back.
Speaker 1: Secondly, are you a slut?
Speaker 4: No, listen, I'm a former sluton. I don't know if
Speaker 4: slutton is I don't know if Sutton is defensible at
Speaker 4: this point. If you can defend this behavior and uh listen,
Speaker 4: it's an iconic way to end this episode. With her
Speaker 4: having me to have a loane time to have a think.
Speaker 4: But you know, she just doesn't know how to communicate
Speaker 4: in these situations, so it's really easy to get one
Speaker 4: over on her. But I mean, listen at that the
Speaker 4: caviar Caspia lunch, the wallet comment. You're never going to
Speaker 4: live that down, directing that towards Dreed.
Speaker 1: Okay, let's just get right into it.
Speaker 2: Okay, my friend Megan McCain said to me, Carlos, we
Speaker 2: usually agree on everything, but we're gonna disagree on Sutton.
Speaker 2: I thought the comment was grows when she compared her
Speaker 2: wallet to the reeds, And I said, look, I'm never
Speaker 2: saying that. I thought the comment itself as a person
Speaker 2: was great.
Speaker 1: It is growth. I said.
Speaker 2: The reason why I called myself a Slatin is because
Speaker 2: I like when Sutton is herself. I like it when
Speaker 2: women or men or they show up on these reality
Speaker 2: shows and they're not placating to the audience.
Speaker 1: That comment of comparing wallets is so like the class a.
Speaker 2: That that's the world in whish site lives this so
Speaker 2: I won't know funny.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. It's very dynasty.
Speaker 4: It's very you know, it's like that if you want
Speaker 4: to see wealth, she is telling us, you know, there
Speaker 4: is wealth there. So in that sense, I mean, it's
Speaker 4: an amazing kind of archetype in terms of.
Speaker 3: A reality show.
Speaker 4: But there is something really uh distasteful knowing the season
Speaker 4: that Dared is portraying herself in that You're just like, damn, damn,
Speaker 4: And there seems to be like a hypocritical nature with
Speaker 4: everybody in the cast right now, where you know, obviously
Speaker 4: that's not Sutton's money. She helped earn that money through
Speaker 4: her relationship with her husband. But if you're using that
Speaker 4: as your main point of standing up for yourself of
Speaker 4: like I got a huge wallet, it's really funny and iconic,
Speaker 4: but it is hard to necessarily support, and you realize
Speaker 4: she is gonna get beat up on all sides from
Speaker 4: that point on, which.
Speaker 2: Is why we got to talk about this because I
Speaker 2: watched this show like a student like you do, Ryan Strack,
Speaker 2: and I wonder if you caught the moment that I
Speaker 2: call okay, So when she made the comment three episodes
Speaker 2: ago when Sutt instead, my wallet is bigger, and all
Speaker 2: the girls gas like, oh my gosh, who says that
Speaker 2: dot dot dot on camera?
Speaker 3: You know, what I mean, like, look, we say.
Speaker 4: That's the problem with these shows, and especially Beverly Hills,
Speaker 4: is because everything is off camera with these ladies, everything
Speaker 4: whether whatever's going on with Morgan Wade, whatever's going They'll
Speaker 4: only feel comfortable talking smack about each other in talking
Speaker 4: heads or on watch what Happens, or in the press.
Speaker 4: But if you want to get them to talk smack
Speaker 4: at each other in the scenes, I guess in a
Speaker 4: sense Sutton is a.
Speaker 3: Hero for that.
Speaker 4: But you you know, that's the frustrating part is that
Speaker 4: it's so much subtext on Beverly Hills where you're watching
Speaker 4: scenes and it really feels like they're trying to keep
Speaker 4: the truth hidden. It's like what can we hide from
Speaker 4: the show, And then you have people like Garcel trying
Speaker 4: to bring it into the light of like why can't
Speaker 4: we talk about Morgan right exactly.
Speaker 2: So again, when Sudden made that comment, she said her confession,
Speaker 2: that was her interview.
Speaker 1: Verbado.
Speaker 2: I said it, and I don't regret it.
Speaker 1: Three episodes later, you regret what you said.
Speaker 2: So to my rain drops, let me tell you how
Speaker 2: this how this works when you film a scene, all right,
Speaker 2: so so so rain drops sit still and Listen, when
Speaker 2: you film a scene and it's happening in real time,
Speaker 2: you say shit months later, not like the next day,
Speaker 2: but months, a month, or months later. You film a
Speaker 2: confessional where the producer's asking you about the moment. Okay,
Speaker 2: that could be weeks later, months later. So hear me out.
Speaker 2: When some made that comment, she meant it because she
Speaker 2: said her confessional weeks later, you say I regret it.
Speaker 2: Trust me, it's because and listen.
Speaker 1: It's all alleged.
Speaker 2: Sutton spoke to her team and they said, you said,
Speaker 2: what you have to apologize. You have to apologize. You
Speaker 2: can't double down on it. And that's the reason why
Speaker 2: rain Drops Dree, to her credit, did not accept the
Speaker 2: apology because Durit knew you only regret it because someone
Speaker 2: told you how bad you're going to look when this
Speaker 2: episode airs.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love, I mean I love the thought of
Speaker 4: asking Sudden or any of these housewives the same question
Speaker 4: in every talking head session and seeing if the answers
Speaker 4: line up. Because we had that great moment from Portia
Speaker 4: in Atlanta this week where they were doing like back
Speaker 4: to back confessionals with Portia where she's saying she's not
Speaker 4: pressed about Drew and Dennis, and I just thought it
Speaker 4: was great, Like in multiple different looks, she's like, I
Speaker 4: don't care when you could tell she obviously cares. Yeah,
Speaker 4: But Sudden is interesting because she's all over the place,
Speaker 4: she's listening to so many people. But you know, at
Speaker 4: the end of the day, her real thoughts are what
Speaker 4: she really said at that table.
Speaker 2: It is it is, And again, I it's the reason
Speaker 2: why I love Lisa Barlow.
Speaker 1: When she complained about was it nineteen C or seventeen
Speaker 1: seventeen CE?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, the flight Yes.
Speaker 2: Again, when she complained to bron and like, I got
Speaker 2: to sit and coach in a seventeen CE. Like again,
Speaker 2: in this climate, in this economical climate, it's not the
Speaker 2: greatest thing to say.
Speaker 1: However, I like the fact that she's like, in my world,
Speaker 1: got some bullshit.
Speaker 4: So so well, I'm like, seventeen C in my climate
Speaker 4: sounds pretty damn good. But moment from Lisa Barlow, and
Speaker 4: I think that's why Lisa is celebrated from like real
Speaker 4: hardcore viewers because she's so uniquely herself and Sudden can
Speaker 4: be uniquely herself. But I think your point is, don't
Speaker 4: then backtrack on it, like double down triple down.
Speaker 3: Don't like. If that's your thought, that's your thought, stay
Speaker 3: with it.
Speaker 4: Don't all of a sudden then apologize for something we
Speaker 4: know you are not sorry for.
Speaker 1: Big oh exactly, Bingo.
Speaker 2: So what was interesting though, because a lot of people
Speaker 2: are saying that bows is of Duri's ask, which I
Speaker 2: never I never felt for that a lot, exactly, Ryan,
Speaker 2: I never thought that myself. I like the fact that
Speaker 2: Bowse of all people, has come in saying I'm going
Speaker 2: to be fair. I don't know these women personally. I'm
Speaker 2: just going to come in and take these women for
Speaker 2: face value. She literally has called out Garcell Kyle Sutton,
Speaker 2: and then in this most recent episode, she told to
Speaker 2: read you're not being fair.
Speaker 1: She's apologizing to you. I think you should accept it.
Speaker 1: I love both. I think she's bringing to the show
Speaker 1: with so delicious.
Speaker 4: It's so refreshing to see bos and to see a
Speaker 4: first season housewife that they're actually giving storyline. She has
Speaker 4: the most normal scenes that actually have real life consequences.
Speaker 4: We're seeing this romance Bloom, the introduction of her boyfriend
Speaker 4: to her daughter, and the pregnancy journey, and you can
Speaker 4: really trust it this moment what she says, It'll be
Speaker 4: interesting to see in future seasons how she changes, but
Speaker 4: at this moment, she's the reliable narrator.
Speaker 2: Yes, and it's fascinating because listen to be this boss
Speaker 2: woman who worked for these big brands from Uber to Netflix.
Speaker 2: She understands how to get her point across in a
Speaker 2: way to where she's speaking to you, not at you,
Speaker 2: and that's what makes it so special. Now on the
Speaker 2: flip side, what we are seeing for the first time
Speaker 2: in this episode that I'm like, does someone play reality
Speaker 2: with the King for Garcella Sutton and said, Carl King
Speaker 2: has been calling this out for three fucking years, and
Speaker 2: instead of instead of attacking him on Twitter high tweets,
Speaker 2: let's let's finally, you know, give the audience something they've
Speaker 2: been craving.
Speaker 1: Garcell calling out Sutton is.
Speaker 2: Long overdue, and I was happy to see that finally
Speaker 2: garcel is seeing that.
Speaker 1: Look, let's be real.
Speaker 2: Sutton is a woman from a very high society background. Therefore,
Speaker 2: she likes to hang with women whose wallet is the
Speaker 2: same size of hers or bigger. Kyle Richards, at the
Speaker 2: end of the day, has more money than Sutton because
Speaker 2: Sutton's money is capped at three hundred and fifty thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a month.
Speaker 1: It's cap you're not going to go above it.
Speaker 3: Poor Ah.
Speaker 2: So Ryan Strap, Colerid Listen, Mauricio Umansky has a very
Speaker 2: successful business called The Agency. Kyle Richards also said her
Speaker 2: money's long too. That's the reason why is of Kyle's
Speaker 2: ass the way she was Kathy Hilton's and she had
Speaker 2: that very soft conversation with her two seasons ago. Is
Speaker 2: because Sutton needs to be in the high society of
Speaker 2: Billy Hills. That's why she doesn't like to read. So
Speaker 2: I think Garcell is finally seeing that. Why are you
Speaker 2: constantly talking shit about Morgan and Kyle to me? But
Speaker 2: when we're around Kyle together, I'm the one that has
Speaker 2: to bring it up.
Speaker 1: And you sit there and you drink your espresso martini.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bring it out into the light.
Speaker 4: I you know, I love Garcel going to bed early,
Speaker 4: like that's enough. I'm going to bed and not continuing
Speaker 4: with sudden and I love. I mean, it really threw
Speaker 4: Sutton off her game a little bit, but I mean
Speaker 4: it is ridiculou. If you're going to have these conversations,
Speaker 4: you're on a reality show. You're on a reality show,
Speaker 4: bring it in and let's talk about it. Let's talk
Speaker 4: about it even if it's.
Speaker 3: Good or bad.
Speaker 4: And I feel like I know more about Mauricio and
Speaker 4: his relationships than I do Kyle and hers. This isn't
Speaker 4: the Real Housewives of Mauricio, Like they are separated. I
Speaker 4: don't care if he's going to all the SOHO houses
Speaker 4: in the nation with different women every day. I want
Speaker 4: to know what's going on with Kyle. I want to
Speaker 4: know what's going on with Erica's relationships. I want to
Speaker 4: know what's going on with Dread and PK more like
Speaker 4: I don't give a rip. And also Kathy suddenly shading Mauricio.
Speaker 4: Was it last week of like, well he doesn't have
Speaker 4: that kind of money? He doesn't And I was like,
Speaker 4: wait a sec, he does have that kind of money.
Speaker 4: The agencies worldwide are we suggesting there's a financial issue
Speaker 4: with Mauricio now, But we shouldn't be like so giving
Speaker 4: so much time to Mauricio when we're not giving equal time,
Speaker 4: if not more, to Kyle and her relationships or the
Speaker 4: other ladies in their relationships.
Speaker 2: It is, first of all, I'm so gagging the real Mauricio.
Speaker 2: Beverley Hills. It's it's it's it's what I've been calling
Speaker 2: out Ryan from day one. And what's so fascinating about
Speaker 2: the The Housewives fans. The Belly Hills fans are second
Speaker 2: to Jersey when it comes to no One, no one,
Speaker 2: no one beats Jersey when it comes to fandom. Let's
Speaker 2: let's be real, it's Jersey, then it's Beverley Hills. Okay,
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills has a lot of like diehard fans. And
Speaker 2: if you talk about certain people, oh honey, you're getting
Speaker 2: attacked on Twitter right or on the Spotify comments leave
Speaker 2: me one.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, I don't give a shit.
Speaker 2: With that being said, you're so right, Ryan in the
Speaker 2: sense of like, look, Mauricio has moved on, and he
Speaker 2: has moved on for quite a while. Right, yeah, sorry,
Speaker 2: rain drops. If you disagree with me is okay, you'll you'll,
Speaker 2: you'll be fine.
Speaker 1: I am not.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Based on this episode and hearing more conversations from Kyle
Speaker 2: and the girls about Morgan and Mauricio, I do strongly
Speaker 2: believe in my opinion that something happened in the marriage
Speaker 2: where Mauricio was at fault.
Speaker 1: I believe Mauricio did something.
Speaker 2: That Kyle said, Okay, we got to be separated. I
Speaker 2: think Mauricio, in my opinion, I think he respectfully made
Speaker 2: sure not too publicly embarrassed Kyle meeting women going on
Speaker 2: podcasts saying I slept with mauriciover dating, right, I think
Speaker 2: what happened.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think they made a deal.
Speaker 2: Let's deal with this privately and we won't embarrass each
Speaker 2: other publicly. I think when Kyle met Morgan and things
Speaker 2: started to happen, I think Mauricio was like, now, wait
Speaker 2: a second, we had a deal, and I think at
Speaker 2: the end of the day, a Mauricio played his role,
Speaker 2: and when the Morgan thing got too crazy, I think
Speaker 2: two things happen simultaneously. I think Morgan said this faining
Speaker 2: shit when it comes to these diehard Bailly Hills fans,
Speaker 2: what Diana Jakins went through. I think Morgan said, I'm
Speaker 2: good in the hood. I'm going to go back in
Speaker 2: my cubby hole and be a performer at the State Fair, right,
Speaker 2: because she's not booking stages at Coachella, No, say Morgan, way,
Speaker 2: I would love to see you in intimate setting at
Speaker 2: my backyard.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure she's going to rush to do that now, Carlos,
Speaker 4: after these nice comments, No, I Morgan listen. I well,
Speaker 4: as a producer, I was wondering this. I was going
Speaker 4: to ask you. Is that Are they told that they
Speaker 4: cannot ask directly about Morgan Way? Because it feels like
Speaker 4: this tap dance of like Garza's like, well, you know
Speaker 4: I saw you at a concert, like we're talking about
Speaker 4: how to approach Kyle. Are we not allowed to ask
Speaker 4: direct questions of Kyle anymore? Or is that like a
Speaker 4: rule that is there? An edict has thrown down because
Speaker 4: we asked direct questions of other women, why can't we
Speaker 4: ask it of Kyle?
Speaker 3: I don't understand.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you understand. You ready for this? Brother? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's Kyle's show now. No, I'm gonna tell you something
Speaker 1: that this is all.
Speaker 3: Alleged in my opinion, right.
Speaker 1: My opinion.
Speaker 2: Hi, Tamera, I'm glad you're back at work. I saw
Speaker 2: it on Twitter. Okay, Fie, Okay, Look, Kyle Richards is
Speaker 2: the queen bee of that show. Beverly Hills Housewives is
Speaker 2: ran not by production, meaning.
Speaker 1: By the cast.
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills has ran very differently than Atlanta, Miami, OC.
Speaker 1: Potomac.
Speaker 2: You know, when you're the queen Bee of those shows,
Speaker 2: if anything, Ryan, you get asked more questions, Like they're like,
Speaker 2: you're in the hot stee bitch, like we're gonna ask
Speaker 2: you everything. It's Kyle's show, and I think those women
Speaker 2: are so protective of their queen and also of their
Speaker 2: own skeletons in their closet. Do I believe that Erica Jane,
Speaker 2: who I'm obsessed with, I love her. Do I believe
Speaker 2: Erica Jane is not getting her back blown out? No.
Speaker 2: I think she has a boy toy, but they're not
Speaker 2: going to call her out on it. Do I believe
Speaker 2: for a second that.
Speaker 1: None of these women knew.
Speaker 2: That Kyle and Mikyle, that Dri and PK had issues. No.
Speaker 1: I think they all respect each other's secrets.
Speaker 2: And I think when it comes to Kyle, specifically because
Speaker 2: it's her show, I think they give her a little
Speaker 2: bit more respect. And I think garcel is sort of
Speaker 2: like am I in the Twilight Zone. This is crazy,
Speaker 2: and I think that's why Garcella is the only one
Speaker 2: who wants to push the homelope and I want to
Speaker 2: end it by saying this and This is me being
Speaker 2: very honest about my opinion. I think because and I'm
Speaker 2: speaking as an overly gay person. As an overly gay person,
Speaker 2: you never want to out somebody if they're not ready
Speaker 2: to come out.
Speaker 1: Sure, And I think there is kid.
Speaker 2: Gloves when it comes to how far can we go
Speaker 2: with this Morgan and Kyle alleged relationship, Because if Kyle
Speaker 2: isn't ready to come out as a woman who's in
Speaker 2: a relationship with relationship with another woman, are we then
Speaker 2: outing somebody who's not ready?
Speaker 1: Which?
Speaker 3: Which?
Speaker 1: Which? Which? I at least get that.
Speaker 4: I that's a great point, and I do understand that.
Speaker 4: But unfortunately we have two things. You know, two things
Speaker 4: can be true at once. Is that that is completely true,
Speaker 4: But unfortunately you've chosen to make a certain part of
Speaker 4: your living.
Speaker 3: Off of reality television.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: We don't want to call this show the Housewives of
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. We want to call it the Real Housewives
Speaker 4: of Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 4: And I would argue that, you know, obviously, Kyle, whatever
Speaker 4: is going on, this could just be a standard friend
Speaker 4: But there is so much like in the not talking about.
Speaker 3: It, it just adds so much.
Speaker 4: More suspicion and so many more issues, and then you
Speaker 4: see it almost gives these other cast members permission to
Speaker 4: not like, yeah, I want to know about Erica gettner
Speaker 4: back blown out. Do you know how many people would
Speaker 4: love to hear of like, oh, I got my back
Speaker 4: blown out last night, Like that would be an amazing
Speaker 4: piece of dialogue from Erica Jane, like I'm glad you
Speaker 4: got the wallpaper in the house, But now what's going
Speaker 4: on downtown?
Speaker 3: I mean, I want those like real moments.
Speaker 4: And to your point earlier about to Read, they all
Speaker 4: knew to Read and PK were having issues.
Speaker 3: The audience didn't.
Speaker 4: We never got to see one damn fight between them
Speaker 4: before this season. They obviously were having blowout fights. PK
Speaker 4: was like, we would destroy each other. We don't know
Speaker 4: that because they kept like a certain image in front
Speaker 4: of the cameras. And so now we're catching up to
Speaker 4: what everybody in that cast already knows. So to me,
Speaker 4: that's why I kind of understand Garcel where it feels
Speaker 4: like as a viewer. For me personally, I am watching
Speaker 4: the Twilight Zone at times.
Speaker 2: No everything you're saying, and I think that's the reason
Speaker 2: why again, you have to give Garcel and Bows their
Speaker 2: props in terms of they're challenging the situation a little
Speaker 2: bit more than what the other ladies are doing. And
Speaker 2: I think the reason why Bows and Garcel are doing
Speaker 2: the best is because there isn't They're not. They don't
Speaker 2: have this history of being a part of like this
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills society. Bows has been a working ass boss
Speaker 2: working in corporate corporations for years, and you have Garcel,
Speaker 2: who has been a black Hollywood iconic actress since she
Speaker 2: was in her twenties, not to mention a freaking model.
Speaker 2: So their allegiance to this society of the Beverly Hills
Speaker 2: isn't the same as this with Erica Durizon and Kyle.
Speaker 2: And that's why those two women are pushing the envelope
Speaker 2: more when it comes to like, Okay, we have to
Speaker 2: really stand what's happening.
Speaker 1: Because this is this is my thing, Ryan, right.
Speaker 2: Like, for example, when Garcel is challenging something like and
Speaker 2: mind you she's saying in her interviews not in her face,
Speaker 2: which is another cop out to me, but whatever, I'll
Speaker 2: take it. She gave a little bit more like you
Speaker 2: said when she said I'm going to I'm going to
Speaker 2: sleep girl, because girl, you're trying it. But when Garcel
Speaker 2: pretty much said that Sutton has.
Speaker 1: Blind us on when it comes to Kyle and.
Speaker 2: Something is sort of not seeing it, do you think
Speaker 2: the comfortability that Garcela is not having calling something out
Speaker 2: and she's never done it before is because of what
Speaker 2: you're saying. She feels like, why the fuck am I
Speaker 2: sharing the same stage with Kyle if she's not going
Speaker 2: to give us the reality?
Speaker 1: But Kyle pushes everyone else to.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I feel like I'm watching people collect paychecks rather than
Speaker 4: participate in I mean, and at this point, the whole
Speaker 4: season is based on like this false premise of a
Speaker 4: sisterhood that's Sutton set up. You know, it's like what
Speaker 4: you know, Like listen, I am not a female, but
Speaker 4: like I you know, my view of a sisterhood is
Speaker 4: not this season of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. So
Speaker 4: we already start the season on this kind of false
Speaker 4: premise that you see slowly chip away. And it's just
Speaker 4: weird because you're seeing a bunch of people that I
Speaker 4: feel like are coworkers rather than friends. So I would
Speaker 4: imagine that it is very upsetting for people like Garcel
Speaker 4: to be like, I don't get I don't get what
Speaker 4: our purpose here is. Like you're telling me one thing
Speaker 4: off cameras and in our natural friendship when the cameras
Speaker 4: go up, you are mom on the word what are
Speaker 4: we supposed to talk about here?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this episode was pretty much apparent that this
Speaker 2: group is dysfunctional. Let me tell you something, Ryan Strack,
Speaker 2: I won't go by the name Carlos Jane because.
Speaker 1: My good sister.
Speaker 2: Erica Jane clocked in and Erica, who carried three seasons,
Speaker 2: three consecutive seasons, going through the terrible things with her
Speaker 2: ex husband. I was like, Okay, my girl deserves a break,
Speaker 2: and I'm fine with that, but I love Erica clocks
Speaker 2: the girls. When Erica Jane told Sutton, you don't support
Speaker 2: these women, and you like to make it seem like
Speaker 2: it's a sisterhood, that's bullshit. You like to say it,
Speaker 2: but you don't act, You don't act upon it. Not
Speaker 2: only that you do have a tendency to come in
Speaker 2: say ooh, I want to help you, and then you
Speaker 2: go around and you do dirty shit behind the back.
Speaker 2: She needs to say those exact words that's been paraphrasing
Speaker 2: and then Ston being look, I like when Sutton is herself,
Speaker 2: she was dead as wrong.
Speaker 1: But I found a comical when she.
Speaker 2: Said, you said, I don't support women, and she's like,
Speaker 2: no women in this group is who I'm talking about.
Speaker 2: Don't play in the gambles of maxist. To me, the
Speaker 2: fact that it took that ad I don't support women,
Speaker 2: sut it girl calmed down. But Erica clocking Sutton is
Speaker 2: lack of emotional intelligence when it comes to being there
Speaker 2: for the women on the show was my favorite part
Speaker 2: of the episode to me, because I think it's true.
Speaker 4: You know, it was a it was a great part.
Speaker 4: But come on, like any like a blind deaf person
Speaker 4: can clock Sutton.
Speaker 3: That is not a great feat.
Speaker 4: Like you know you like a broken clock can be
Speaker 4: raw right twice a day, right, Like, it's not hard
Speaker 4: to clock Sutton. It's just like people are like sometimes
Speaker 4: like do I want to get into this?
Speaker 3: And so for Erica Jane, this.
Speaker 4: Is like like this is like a free pass, like
Speaker 4: let her rip, you know, and she they set her
Speaker 4: up for this great moment and she has it.
Speaker 3: And I will say for this episode, it had.
Speaker 4: So many funny moments in it, like that moment, and
Speaker 4: you know already Sutton's gonna get rattles. Sutton doesn't know
Speaker 4: how to communicate as effectively as Erica, so it's not.
Speaker 3: Even a fair fight in any sort of way.
Speaker 4: So Erica, it looks amazing, and you know, yeah, I
Speaker 4: will say this is the most I've ever liked Erica
Speaker 4: Jane was this season for me personally, like because I
Speaker 4: wasn't I'm not into like fashion obviously, and I'm not
Speaker 4: in the extreme wealth like I've seen that so much.
Speaker 4: But this has been an interesting season for Erica where
Speaker 4: it was like you don't have the hot potato anymore
Speaker 4: and you just get to comment and be around and
Speaker 4: say what you see.
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Speaker 2: I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. I
Speaker 2: definitely can see your point when it comes to like
Speaker 2: something is an easy target because she can the thing
Speaker 2: what something is. I like it when she has a
Speaker 2: moment where she's sort of unhinged the fact that she's
Speaker 2: like I'm leaving and she's walking away and she's like,
Speaker 2: I need to be alone for two seconds. I'm obsessed
Speaker 2: with those moments because again, that's the real Suddon. And
Speaker 2: I find it quite strange, even for me that I
Speaker 2: am now off.
Speaker 1: A sudden like this big spot, because there's a.
Speaker 2: Time where everybody's like Carlos, We're hopping off the Ston train,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, bitch, I'm in that bitch first class.
Speaker 1: I'm not in seventeen ce Lisa Barlow. I am in
Speaker 1: row two fucking A.
Speaker 2: And I am loving everything she's doing because I find
Speaker 2: it so entertaining.
Speaker 4: See, I love I love that, I love that there's
Speaker 4: a housewife for everybody, and that you know, not everybody's
Speaker 4: gonna love to say, and we all don't watch the
Speaker 4: show in the same way either, So like you are
Speaker 4: kind of saying that you love Suddon because of the mess,
Speaker 4: because that she will say these unhinged things, and that
Speaker 4: is very entertaining to watch. Some of us are watching
Speaker 4: it so seriously that we're like, this is ridiculous. It
Speaker 4: is so hurtful. I can't believe it. And that is
Speaker 4: the concept of the show. It was like that, that's
Speaker 4: why the sisterhood think at the beginning of the season
Speaker 4: is so funny, because that's how many times have we
Speaker 4: seen like a true genuine sisterhood of women.
Speaker 3: That have each other's backs like Bo's.
Speaker 4: It was almost cute of her saying this Saint Lucia
Speaker 4: trip is going to be so happy, so wonderful, and
Speaker 4: I was like, have you watched any Housewife trip before
Speaker 4: Saint Lucia? That is not like And as a producer, Carlos,
Speaker 4: when you see Bo's do a talking head where she's
Speaker 4: talking about the wonderful like I've planned all of these events,
Speaker 4: It's going to be so amazing, amazing thing to like
Speaker 4: as a producer, are they sitting there going lol? Like
Speaker 4: are they winking at each other? Like we'll see how
Speaker 4: good this is? Like you have a boat, you know
Speaker 4: the history of boats on Housewives. They're never going to
Speaker 4: have a nice, friendly scene on a boat. And I
Speaker 4: love that Bo's is still so wide eyed and innocent
Speaker 4: in this world that she believes this truly will be
Speaker 4: a magical vacation.
Speaker 2: Yes, because the thing is this, I tell people all
Speaker 2: the time, when you see a housewive going to cast trip,
Speaker 2: oh honey, honey, where there is a boat, a dinner table,
Speaker 2: or the beach, an argument is going to ensue. It
Speaker 2: is what it is the formula in which we know
Speaker 2: will go down. And that's exactly why this episode was
Speaker 2: fun to watch because it definitely delivered what we all
Speaker 2: wanted it to. When we realize, oh, you guys are
Speaker 2: going on a trip, yay, this means we're going to
Speaker 2: see some real intense moments. One of the moments that
Speaker 2: I thought was so interesting was this Sutton revealed No,
Speaker 2: it was even I think Garcel Ryan, tell me if
Speaker 2: I got this wrong. Garcel reveilt in her confessional that
Speaker 2: Mo meaning Mauricio, has been seen with that woman before
Speaker 2: at the restaurant, multiple places and multiple places. So the
Speaker 2: woman that he was caught with at the airport where
Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston goes there, but the Papa Rochter, the and
Speaker 2: the followed this Rhyanniston.
Speaker 1: They followed Mauricio.
Speaker 2: And it was revealed that that woman has been seeing
Speaker 2: Alvi with Mauricio at dinners and how sut And called Kyle.
Speaker 2: This is the reason why I believe that again there
Speaker 2: needs to be a cast change with this show. Why
Speaker 2: are you calling Kyle off camera to say I've seen
Speaker 2: Mauricio out with this woman?
Speaker 4: Wait are you talking about? No, I think Bo's called
Speaker 4: Kyle and left a three and a half minute message. Yes, sorry,
Speaker 4: Bose called Kyle. And then she was like, I'm a
Speaker 4: girl's girl. It was that kind of this amazing moment,
Speaker 4: and I think she played a little bit of the
Speaker 4: voice and she was like this girl isn't even good looking.
Speaker 4: If you're gonna do this, do it with a better
Speaker 4: looking girl. And I will say that three and a
Speaker 4: half minutes that's better than any Bravo Leberty's podcast out there.
Speaker 4: Like put that three and a half minute voicemail out bows,
Speaker 4: like that is going to be better than any Bravo celebrity.
Speaker 3: Podcast that is on the market currently.
Speaker 4: But that was it is that she left a three
Speaker 4: and a half minute voicemail or voice note to Kyle
Speaker 4: once she saw them at the Soho House in Malibu.
Speaker 1: But that's the thing. I want that shit to be
Speaker 1: on camera.
Speaker 4: And well why But as a producer, why isn't it
Speaker 4: if you know that exists, if you hear like, why
Speaker 4: are we.
Speaker 3: Not getting those moments?
Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing I think, because listen, I can't
Speaker 2: confirm this right because I don't work on the show.
Speaker 2: I think Kyle just has these ladies not bowing down
Speaker 2: to her. That's the wrong word to use, but I
Speaker 2: think Kyle, I mean, Kyle has set the stage for
Speaker 2: this is my show, and I set the tone for
Speaker 2: what happened. And I yes, I love the moment of
Speaker 2: the Voiceboule being played, but I like it better when
Speaker 2: it happens in real time. I miss the days of
Speaker 2: like you hold things until the cameras on and you say, hey,
Speaker 2: by the way, I was at so House Malibu and
Speaker 2: you're eating your medium rare steak and you say, and
Speaker 2: I saw Marisa with a woman, like why not do that?
Speaker 1: So for me, great moment for the show.
Speaker 2: Oh, but I think it's another thing that raises the
Speaker 2: flag in terms of like what has happened to Beverly Hills.
Speaker 1: Why is this show feeling self produced behind the scene.
Speaker 2: And so protected and nobody's having real conversations and listen,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this, and I mean when I say
Speaker 2: it makes me miss Jersey because at least with Jersey.
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, girls.
Speaker 2: Call each other out so much and you're like, well, damn,
Speaker 2: Like watching Beverley Hills this season makes me miss Jersey Housewives.
Speaker 4: There could be a happy balance, Carlos, Who I mean,
Speaker 4: couldn't there be a mix of Jersey and like, there
Speaker 4: should be more of this mix, And right now it
Speaker 4: just feels like Beverly Hills is all about what's not
Speaker 4: said and what's not told, and you know, Jersey always
Speaker 4: feels like it's like everything's out there and so like
Speaker 4: there has to be some sort of balance. And I
Speaker 4: was like sitting there thinking less and I was like,
Speaker 4: is it humane to just have these ladies attached to
Speaker 4: a GoPro like three sixty five, like a live mic,
Speaker 4: like you know, Portia and Dennis they have live mics
Speaker 4: at the end of this week's Atlanta you know, hot
Speaker 4: Mike hot mic, which, by the way, that was another
Speaker 4: moment I still am like, wait, don't you have to
Speaker 4: check in your mic pack at the end of filming?
Speaker 3: How are they still having their mics on?
Speaker 4: And so why can't we just mike these Beverly Hills
Speaker 4: ladies up twenty four to seven, like, just have a mic,
Speaker 4: just a hot mic moment all the time. We don't
Speaker 4: even need the cameras, just the audio.
Speaker 1: I'm with you, because they're not giving it to us.
Speaker 2: But this is why, this is why this social experiment
Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills Housewoks is so entertaining. Because Belly Hills
Speaker 2: is in California. Orange County is in California. These two
Speaker 2: shows could not be more different. Yeah, could not be
Speaker 2: more different, both in California, but closely different. Those OC women.
Speaker 2: I think Carlos King is saying this, and I don't
Speaker 2: care who gets mad. What makes OC the greatest of
Speaker 2: all time in terms of a show that has lasted
Speaker 2: almost twenty years ninety Yes, and their last couple of
Speaker 2: seasons have been the best ever.
Speaker 1: That's you got to give them a trophy for that.
Speaker 2: Those OC women call each other out, but they always
Speaker 2: find a way to resolve it.
Speaker 1: And I believe they like each other. I believe they
Speaker 1: like each other. I believe Gina Emily.
Speaker 3: I believe they want to like each other.
Speaker 4: I believe they want to like each other or they're
Speaker 4: open to liking each other, where it feels like Beverly
Speaker 4: Hill's pretty resolute in what these friendships are, how far
Speaker 4: they're willing to go. At this point, there is gonna
Speaker 4: be no de Read Garcel, There's gonna be no Duret
Speaker 4: Sutton at this point. I feel like it's pretty finite
Speaker 4: in what their relationships are. And we've gone to you're
Speaker 4: gonna keep seeing the same beats again and again with
Speaker 4: those three ladies in particular, whereas OC, you know, really
Speaker 4: like to their credit, and also I would include salt
Speaker 4: Lake on this and the Atlanta this season. I mean,
Speaker 4: we have new cast members and they're already working off
Speaker 4: of each other way better than these Beverly Hills ladies are.
Speaker 4: I mean new cast members on Atlanta already working together
Speaker 4: in a scene where they're on top of each other
Speaker 4: and they're calling people out, and I was so refreshed.
Speaker 4: It was so refreshing to see that in Atlanta, because
Speaker 4: sometimes with new cast members, you're like, oh, this is
Speaker 4: gonna be a slow build. But I think salt Lake
Speaker 4: does it excellent and OC, yeah, last season one of
Speaker 4: the best seasons ever. I just don't feel like Beverly
Speaker 4: Hills is in that same realm anymore, which is.
Speaker 3: Wild because it's a lot of our favorite favorite Housewives iteration.
Speaker 1: Yeah no, Kyle rich is my number one favorite Housewives.
Speaker 2: So I do believe that a change has to happen
Speaker 2: in order for this show to get back to his
Speaker 2: glory days. Atlanta is having a great season. Two episodes
Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City is an amazing show. I loved
Speaker 2: every single episode. There was not one filler. OC is
Speaker 2: the greatest in terms of an amazing season for a
Speaker 2: show that's.
Speaker 1: Been off for almost twenty years.
Speaker 2: And I just think there needs to be a real
Speaker 2: conversation about like what is Beverley Hills, because it can't
Speaker 2: be about like you said, Beverly Hills is so like Seinfeld.
Speaker 1: It's like it's a show about the show, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not about like these women getting along.
Speaker 2: It's sort of like, well this happened at Solhouse in Malibu.
Speaker 2: Well this happened at the airport. Well this happened. It's like,
Speaker 2: why aren't we seeing it and being told about it? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Well no, I had a great acting teacher back in
Speaker 4: the day. That's always like show us, don't tell us,
Speaker 4: show us. We want to see things that are shown.
Speaker 4: Don't tell us about it, show it. And I know
Speaker 4: we're working under the confines of like shooting days, but
Speaker 4: it is that thing is that you know, Beverly Hills
Speaker 4: is always going to get a really high ratings in
Speaker 4: terms of viewers, so they can kind of coast a
Speaker 4: little bit and still get like a what like a
Speaker 4: point eight zero nine and like ratings every week. They
Speaker 4: can coast on that, so they don't have to make
Speaker 4: any real changes. But I think, in my heart, I
Speaker 4: want them to break this show for the overall health
Speaker 4: of it in the long run. And I don't know
Speaker 4: what that necessarily means, but I do think there's a
Speaker 4: world in which we get these ladies, you know, working
Speaker 4: together in a more dynamic fashion, even if it's fighting
Speaker 4: in a more dynamic fashion, because I feel like they're
Speaker 4: getting lapped by other housewives and this shouldn't happen with
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. And I know that's I don't want to
Speaker 4: be negative because there's still so many great things about
Speaker 4: this and you know, it's so funny. I'm just you
Speaker 4: watch these other shows and it's sometimes a much more
Speaker 4: enjoyable viewing experience.
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, now listen, I agree with one hundred percent
Speaker 2: of what you're saying. I really did enjoy this episode
Speaker 2: because I felt like things were being called out to
Speaker 2: the forefront, and I enjoyed that. But I think if
Speaker 2: you think about the future of the show, I mean,
Speaker 2: look all of the Hollywood stylists, from Julia Roberts to
Speaker 2: Jennifer what's her name, Laurence, thank you, Ryan, they.
Speaker 1: Watched the show, so it is, and I think Reese Riperspoon.
Speaker 2: Watched it because she was on the plane with Cobridge
Speaker 2: Church and they have a deal together allegedly.
Speaker 1: So it's watched.
Speaker 2: Like you said, by so many people because it's aspiration though,
Speaker 2: and it's a good looking show in terms of like
Speaker 2: showing Billy Hills, showing California, showing the Armez bags, Jennifer
Speaker 2: Tilley and her lifestyle, Kathie Hilton. You get to see
Speaker 2: all these amazing things. But when I think about the
Speaker 2: longevity of the show, I think they have to take
Speaker 2: a page out of the Book of OC. Not the
Speaker 2: Book of Psalms, not the Book of Jacob, but the
Speaker 2: Book of OC. Okay, and really come back to what
Speaker 2: you said. Even if you aren't the best of friends.
Speaker 2: One thing OC does well is you believe they want
Speaker 2: to like each other and you believe they want to
Speaker 2: be friends and they really want this to work. And
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that for Billy Hills.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we even have these like you know, uh,
Speaker 4: Deuri brings up Kim Richards to Kyle, and Kyle's like, oh, listen,
Speaker 4: we don't really you know, we're not as close anymore
Speaker 4: and we don't dive any deeper into that, you know,
Speaker 4: and like Kim is og Beverly Hills, and I think
Speaker 4: the audience would love to know a little bit more
Speaker 4: about that. So we have these great I mean, listen,
Speaker 4: at this point, Kyle just needs.
Speaker 3: To date John Jansen. I get this show back on
Speaker 3: the back on track.
Speaker 4: But you have all of these great building blocks and
Speaker 4: this show will always be there. There's no chance this
Speaker 4: show will ever go off the air unless they choose
Speaker 4: to have that. But I just I want I don't know,
Speaker 4: it's hard, like I don't you would know this way
Speaker 4: more than I would as a producer. I just want
Speaker 4: them to like take this very seriously and not be
Speaker 4: able to hide as much as they are. And with
Speaker 4: the Mauricio like I just feel like, God, I'm getting
Speaker 4: every bit of information about Mauricio that I want, and
Speaker 4: he's barely even on the show. Like I know his
Speaker 4: dating history way better than any of those other ladies,
Speaker 4: and that, to me is frustrating. I'm still confused about
Speaker 4: durt and PK, Like, wait, seven page email, you're threatening
Speaker 4: to divorce. We see the scene last week where he's like,
Speaker 4: I don't know if we'll be divorced. I don't know
Speaker 4: no resolution there, Like where are we are you dating
Speaker 4: anybody to read?
Speaker 3: You know, has anybody caught your eye?
Speaker 4: And on top of it, we have things like we
Speaker 4: see christylanex Durite's glam that came at her this past
Speaker 4: week or a week and a half ago, which is
Speaker 4: a wild thing to not comment on when we're talking
Speaker 4: about pocketbooks and wallets and things like that. Of we
Speaker 4: have this guy christillan Nex, who you see briefly in
Speaker 4: a shot from last night's episode, who was there on
Speaker 4: the trip with Durit, saying that potentially or allegedly, Durite
Speaker 4: didn't pay some portion of a bill. And I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 4: whether that's true or not, that would be interesting fodder
Speaker 4: for the show.
Speaker 2: Yes, because we tracked when people used accue Charae of
Speaker 2: not paying bills, we didn't hide it. We showed it,
Speaker 2: and we showed Charae defending herself. We showed char saying
Speaker 2: they did complete the job, I'm not paying them. So again,
Speaker 2: I don't understand this big protection that is clouding Biley Hills,
Speaker 2: but it's not making for a season that could have
Speaker 2: been great because it started off strong to me with
Speaker 2: the re versus Kyle, and then I think once that
Speaker 2: sort of like simmered.
Speaker 4: Oh that was so good with Durit's smoking in the car.
Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, this is like really this that.
Speaker 4: Felt so frantic and real, and or even the Kyle
Speaker 4: Darite scene at Duret's place where you see that she's
Speaker 4: like her whole like her plants are dying and she's
Speaker 4: like like hoarding things almost out.
Speaker 3: Of here, like wow, dar you know, and Kyle's like
Speaker 3: it used to be so clean in here.
Speaker 4: Those little moments are like, to me, what makes this
Speaker 4: show fly? But then they kind of get dropped or
Speaker 4: pushed to the wayside, and I think, to me, that's
Speaker 4: like really interesting because you're like, oh, wow, Dured has
Speaker 4: nothing to lose. This season, but I thought it was
Speaker 4: way more interesting when it went with her and Kyle
Speaker 4: as opposed to her and Sutton.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Agree, So Ryan, my last question for you is this,
Speaker 2: who would you like.
Speaker 1: To see return to next season of Belly Hills.
Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna really get people hate me right now,
Speaker 4: Like I mean, this is It's gonna be really bad,
Speaker 4: and I'm so sorry, and I want to tell you
Speaker 4: I'm basic a nice person and I this is I
Speaker 4: I say this with peace and love. I want Kyle
Speaker 4: to sit a season out. I just I know that's
Speaker 4: never gonna happen unless she chooses it, but I want
Speaker 4: her to sit it out. I want her to really
Speaker 4: think about things and really like kind of figure out
Speaker 4: what her life is looking like at this point forward.
Speaker 4: I want her to sit out. And I there's no
Speaker 4: way to answer this question. That's if Kyle's out, I
Speaker 4: think Sorry, guys, I think Garcell's out as well.
Speaker 3: Break up.
Speaker 4: These things don't have sudden have anybody there in her corner,
Speaker 4: don't have the Garcel of it all, don't have the
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to see more of Bow's I
Speaker 4: want to see, like, let's see how Eric like Erica Jane.
Speaker 4: You got to see a different side of once Lisa
Speaker 4: Reno was off the show. I thought that was really interesting.
Speaker 4: So some of these friendships are even like on Potomac
Speaker 4: with the you know, Giselle and Robin being split up,
Speaker 4: you get to see another facet of their personality. So
Speaker 4: what does Durit look like without trying to get Kyle's
Speaker 4: affections or sudden without Kyle's affections? It seems like Kyle
Speaker 4: everybody is gunning for affections. Maybe we need to take
Speaker 4: that away and see where those ladies stand at that
Speaker 4: point on and then refresh with a couple of like
Speaker 4: maybe heavy hitters. I don't know if you want to
Speaker 4: do stunt casting like Denise Richards, but there is a
Speaker 4: world in which potentially, if you're going to get somebody
Speaker 4: big away like that from Kyle, maybe somebody else comes
Speaker 4: in that's an actual name.
Speaker 3: Do I know? What I just said is Bunker's bananas?
Speaker 3: What about you?
Speaker 1: I listen. I love a choice that is controversial like that.
Speaker 4: So Kyle's my favorite with no, Kyle's my favorite too.
Speaker 4: I hate to say that Kyle is somebody that I
Speaker 4: think is like I genuinely will love her no matter
Speaker 4: what she does, and if she's on this show until
Speaker 4: the end of time, it's deservedly. So I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to think of, like what could actually make people sit
Speaker 4: up and pay attention.
Speaker 2: Listen, I am not going to allan you and your thought.
Speaker 1: I love a controversial thinging. I love it. I love it.
Speaker 1: I would love to see chrisy Tiagan on the show.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't you love to see that John Legend relationship
Speaker 4: in real life?
Speaker 1: Just I want to see Listen.
Speaker 2: What made Billy Hill special to me was like when
Speaker 2: I got a chance to see like my soap opera
Speaker 2: stars be real people like Lisa Renna who was Bobby
Speaker 2: and Days of Our Lives and Eileen Davidson, you know.
Speaker 3: What I mean.
Speaker 1: Like, and then you know I knew.
Speaker 2: Of Kyle and Kim based on Paris Hilton being their niece,
Speaker 2: So I just enjoyed that. And then I'm a fan
Speaker 2: of Guarsel from my childhood. So and then I mean,
Speaker 2: Denise fucking Richards for Pete's sake, Like, I do want
Speaker 2: some old Hollywood or soap opera stars to come to
Speaker 2: this show. So I do want to see more celebrities
Speaker 2: because I think what makes Hills so special is when
Speaker 2: you see celebrities be real people. It's sort of like
Speaker 2: the US Weekly category in the magazine Celebrities. They're just
Speaker 2: like us, and I want to see that. I think
Speaker 2: the plot has been missing in terms of, like, let's
Speaker 2: see wealthy celebrity women who are willing to show us
Speaker 2: a piece of their lifestyle. Adrian Mloof was fantastic, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like Lisa Vanda Pump, but like
Speaker 2: we had Adrian Mlouke who owned a fucking basketball team,
Speaker 2: like you can't who's denied that star power? Oh?
Speaker 3: What about well?
Speaker 4: I mean, this is what about Meghan Good who just
Speaker 4: got engaged to John I.
Speaker 3: Will see that.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you were going to go far, I
Speaker 2: want to see Megan mark all.
Speaker 4: I mean by the way she might need the career
Speaker 4: rehab eventually. Or what about what is there a world
Speaker 4: and this suld would there be a world in which
Speaker 4: Paris Hilton would join and you'd still be able to
Speaker 4: keep Kathy that way and like this kind of periphery role.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, there's so many options, but
Speaker 4: I think you know, from a production angle, I just wonder, like,
Speaker 4: you know, if it's not completely broken, don't fix it.
Speaker 4: If we're bringing in the advertising dollars, don't. I mean,
Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, I just think
Speaker 4: it's gonna make the job harder and harder as seasons
Speaker 4: continue unless we break down the secrets and all of
Speaker 4: the defenses that are like put up these ladies, like
Speaker 4: you said, the protections. If we can break those down
Speaker 4: a little bit, I think you have a wonderful cast.
Speaker 4: But like let it rip, you know, like Porscha said
Speaker 4: this week, you know, or the producer said to Porsche,
Speaker 4: break it, break it.
Speaker 3: I can I break the fourth wall? Break it, like
Speaker 3: break this show? Break it? Yes?
Speaker 1: No, I Ryan, you know, I disagree with you. I
Speaker 1: agree with you.
Speaker 2: Break it something. Yes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
Speaker 2: But I feel like it may not be broken. But
Speaker 2: I definitely feel like there's a little loose script.
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Guysia, please don't. I'm not saying this is
Speaker 4: completely broken. I still watch it. I still laugh at
Speaker 4: so many moments. I think it's just because I have
Speaker 4: such a deep love for it that I want better
Speaker 4: for it in the long run.
Speaker 3: And that's it. And also we Carlos real quick, but
Speaker 3: I do.
Speaker 4: Kathy Hilton, this is one of our greatest performing artists
Speaker 4: of all time. Yeah, we have to admit at this
Speaker 4: point that she is like fully fully doing fake scenes,
Speaker 4: right like the scene with her assistant on the phone
Speaker 4: where she goes off and does the makeup. You know,
Speaker 4: like that's very Kathy and we're like, oh, crazy Kathy.
Speaker 4: But there's a cameraman in there. You don't just forget,
Speaker 4: Like there's a cameraman with a camera, a guy in
Speaker 4: like cargo shorts, filming Kathy Hilton in her bedroom and bathroom.
Speaker 4: Does Kathy Hilton really forget that her assistant is on
Speaker 4: the line for twenty minutes?
Speaker 3: Or is that a.
Speaker 4: Bit that Kathy does because she's our world, she's our
Speaker 4: world's greatest performing artist.
Speaker 1: I believe it is a little bit of both.
Speaker 2: I definitely believe in the beginning, when Kathy first came
Speaker 2: on the show, the sort of like comedy relief was her.
Speaker 2: And what happens that I can share with you a
Speaker 2: reality producer, what happens is when in reality star gets
Speaker 2: rewarded for a very singular behavior trope, they go above
Speaker 2: and beyond to constantly give you that. And I think
Speaker 2: what Kathy is doing is she's leaning more into it.
Speaker 2: I think it's funny. I kind of think we're all
Speaker 2: over it. To be honest with you, I think the
Speaker 2: bit is a little bit too much pun intended. I
Speaker 2: think she's playing into the trope of like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: this ditsi woman. Do I think she's a fun ditsi
Speaker 2: woman in real life?
Speaker 4: Sure? Right?
Speaker 1: But I definitely think.
Speaker 4: I think she's smart as hell. I think she's smart
Speaker 4: as hell.
Speaker 1: Like I think it's a character.
Speaker 2: Right When I say she's did see, I mean the
Speaker 2: character she has to portrayed, Like when Paris has to
Speaker 2: reveal to us that that's not her rope speaking voice.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like, what's up? Like she has like a baritone.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I think that's what Kathy does. I think
Speaker 2: Paris had said she she makes money playing this character,
Speaker 2: which was a ditsie blond, and I think that what
Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton has done. She's the adult version of Paris.
Speaker 2: And my last draw with the bit was the fashion show.
Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, that's it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, Like you've been to so many fashion
Speaker 4: shows with both of your daughters, with all of your family,
Speaker 4: there is no way that you didn't know that you
Speaker 4: were standing in front, or to even go backstage and
Speaker 4: suggest that Durree make hey, duri should make some comments
Speaker 4: during the fashion.
Speaker 3: Show, like Kathy knows how fashion shows.
Speaker 4: Are run better than most fashion shows, like there's no way,
Speaker 4: but it's funny as hell. The audience gets that quick
Speaker 4: hit of adrenaline because it's a funny moment. But I
Speaker 4: just think Kathy Hilton is so damn smart, and it's
Speaker 4: like Chris Jenner in a way. We'll never see the
Speaker 4: real Chris Jenner on the Kardashians, but we know she's
Speaker 4: there and she's really powerful.
Speaker 2: Agreed a great agree, And I would like to see
Speaker 2: Kim Riches come back. So that's that's that's that's my thing.
Speaker 1: That's it. If she's if she's at a good place
Speaker 1: in her life and her sobriety team recovery.
Speaker 2: But that's important, that's the most important, you know, as
Speaker 2: a human being. So my Boston prayers and love goes
Speaker 2: out to Kim Richards. But whenever she's ready to be
Speaker 2: back on television the best healthy way possible, I would
Speaker 2: love to see her comeback. Just like Ryan Strak, I
Speaker 2: would love to see you come back. On Reality with
Speaker 2: the King. I always have so much fun with you.
Speaker 2: You're so intelligent and you bring so much thoughtful dialogue
Speaker 2: to these shows, and today's episode was no exception. But
Speaker 2: you also have an amazing podcast that we all love
Speaker 2: so Bad is Good with Ryan Bailey, So talk to
Speaker 2: us about the podcast, what they can expect, and how
Speaker 2: they can subscribe to your podcast as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, just go on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, leave a five
Speaker 4: star review.
Speaker 3: Do it for this one as well. If you hated anything.
Speaker 4: That I said, just skip the podcast entirely and just
Speaker 4: support Carlos Raindrops. But no, we I do a full
Speaker 4: like line by line reenactment of Beverly Hills and like
Speaker 4: I'm doing somewhere else Southern Charm, Atlanta. But we also
Speaker 4: do things like we had Susan Morrison, who has a
Speaker 4: New York Times bestseller about Lauren Michaels, the creator of
Speaker 4: Saturday Night Live that's out right now. We did an
Speaker 4: hour long conversation with her about SNL's fiftieth and the
Speaker 4: origination of SNL. So we'll we did the Karen Reid trial,
Speaker 4: so we go into different pockets of pop culture. But
Speaker 4: my one true love has always been reality series. And
Speaker 4: that's why, Carlos, you know what a fan I was
Speaker 4: of yours even before I got to meet you, So
Speaker 4: anytime to be able to speak to you is truly
Speaker 4: truly meaningful to me. So thank you, man, I really
Speaker 4: appreciate this opportunity.
Speaker 1: No, thank you, And I love your podcast.
Speaker 2: I'm a subscriber and I listened to it weekly, and guys, listen,
Speaker 2: Ryan Bailey is so funny, but he really the difference
Speaker 2: between Ryan's pod having a lot of others is he
Speaker 2: goes deep in the in the in the conversations about
Speaker 2: these shows, and he really he really brings an intelligent,
Speaker 2: you know, conversation to what we're seeing and it's so
Speaker 2: thought provoking. So if you're looking for our thought provoking
Speaker 2: podcast that also was funny and hilarious, make sure you guys.
Speaker 1: Subscribe to you. So bad is good with Ryan Bailey.
Speaker 1: I'm a fan of his work and his podcast.
Speaker 4: Well now I'm gonna cry. Now you're making me. We're
Speaker 4: having a tearful and joyful moments. Which, by the way,
Speaker 4: I was listening to you talk about Atlanta. You know,
Speaker 4: I was like, I'd already watch Atlanta and I loved it,
Speaker 4: and then I was watching a clip of you where
Speaker 4: you're like, here's the deal, rain drops it I you
Speaker 4: almost got like.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, he's gonna say he
Speaker 3: hated it.
Speaker 4: He's gonna say you were like, I've got to be
Speaker 4: honest with you.
Speaker 3: I've got to be and I was like, oh my god.
Speaker 4: I literally just did a whole recap where I thought,
Speaker 4: I said, this is like the best thing, and.
Speaker 3: Then you're like, it's fantastic, ten out of ten.
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh god, thank god, because I
Speaker 4: was like, if I am this far off in what
Speaker 4: I saw on that first episode of Atlanta, I was
Speaker 4: going to be so embarrassed. And I was like, but
Speaker 4: you really teased me, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 4: You really teased it in that video, and I really
Speaker 4: thought you were going to say it was horrible, and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, am I not seen something.
Speaker 4: So I'm just glad that you made me more confidently
Speaker 4: at work.
Speaker 3: So thank you.
Speaker 1: No, it was good. It was good. It was good.
Speaker 2: It was a great premiere. If you guys aren't watching Atlanta,
Speaker 2: you missing out. Watch Atlanta Housewives every Sunday. Antacom sum
Speaker 2: Central and Beverly Hills Too, every Tuesday eight o'clock Summer
Speaker 2: Central and both shows the next day on Peacock Ryan
Speaker 2: and My Brother, Thank you and I will talk to
Speaker 2: you soon.
Speaker 3: Thank you by rain Drops.
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