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Speaker 1: Welco up to Reality the King.

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Speaker 2: It's me Carlos King, the King of Reality TV and

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Speaker 2: one of the most sought after executive producers in reality

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Speaker 2: television with over ten years a production experience.

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Speaker 1: Twice a week on.

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Speaker 2: Reality with the King, we'll sit down with my friends

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Speaker 2: across the entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and

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Speaker 2: revisit unforgettable moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,

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Speaker 2: rain drops on today's episode of Ryan.

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Speaker 1: I listen Ryan with.

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Speaker 3: The King, Yeah, right up, rain drops got the new show.

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Speaker 1: Though.

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Speaker 2: I'm laughing because listen, it's Ryan Bailly, our friend. He's

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Speaker 2: a rain drop. But what the funniest thing for those

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Speaker 2: who can't see us, Ryan's name is what made me

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Speaker 2: like lab and call him Ryan with the King. Honey,

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Speaker 2: he is going by Ryan scrapped the ball. Welcome to

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Speaker 2: the shot Ryot.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it is so good to be back.

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Speaker 1: Secondly, are you a slut?

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Speaker 4: No, listen, I'm a former sluton. I don't know if

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Speaker 4: slutton is I don't know if Sutton is defensible at

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Speaker 4: this point. If you can defend this behavior and uh listen,

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Speaker 4: it's an iconic way to end this episode. With her

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Speaker 4: having me to have a loane time to have a think.

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Speaker 4: But you know, she just doesn't know how to communicate

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Speaker 4: in these situations, so it's really easy to get one

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Speaker 4: over on her. But I mean, listen at that the

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Speaker 4: caviar Caspia lunch, the wallet comment. You're never going to

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Speaker 4: live that down, directing that towards Dreed.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's just get right into it.

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Speaker 2: Okay, my friend Megan McCain said to me, Carlos, we

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Speaker 2: usually agree on everything, but we're gonna disagree on Sutton.

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Speaker 2: I thought the comment was grows when she compared her

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Speaker 2: wallet to the reeds, And I said, look, I'm never

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Speaker 2: saying that. I thought the comment itself as a person

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Speaker 2: was great.

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Speaker 1: It is growth. I said.

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Speaker 2: The reason why I called myself a Slatin is because

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Speaker 2: I like when Sutton is herself. I like it when

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Speaker 2: women or men or they show up on these reality

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Speaker 2: shows and they're not placating to the audience.

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Speaker 1: That comment of comparing wallets is so like the class a.

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Speaker 2: That that's the world in whish site lives this so

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Speaker 2: I won't know funny.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's great. It's very dynasty.

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Speaker 4: It's very you know, it's like that if you want

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Speaker 4: to see wealth, she is telling us, you know, there

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Speaker 4: is wealth there. So in that sense, I mean, it's

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Speaker 4: an amazing kind of archetype in terms of.

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Speaker 3: A reality show.

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Speaker 4: But there is something really uh distasteful knowing the season

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Speaker 4: that Dared is portraying herself in that You're just like, damn, damn,

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Speaker 4: And there seems to be like a hypocritical nature with

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Speaker 4: everybody in the cast right now, where you know, obviously

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Speaker 4: that's not Sutton's money. She helped earn that money through

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Speaker 4: her relationship with her husband. But if you're using that

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Speaker 4: as your main point of standing up for yourself of

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Speaker 4: like I got a huge wallet, it's really funny and iconic,

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Speaker 4: but it is hard to necessarily support, and you realize

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Speaker 4: she is gonna get beat up on all sides from

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Speaker 4: that point on, which.

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Speaker 2: Is why we got to talk about this because I

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Speaker 2: watched this show like a student like you do, Ryan Strack,

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Speaker 2: and I wonder if you caught the moment that I

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Speaker 2: call okay, So when she made the comment three episodes

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Speaker 2: ago when Sutt instead, my wallet is bigger, and all

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Speaker 2: the girls gas like, oh my gosh, who says that

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Speaker 3: You know, what I mean, like, look, we say.

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Speaker 4: That's the problem with these shows, and especially Beverly Hills,

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Speaker 4: is because everything is off camera with these ladies, everything

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Speaker 4: whether whatever's going on with Morgan Wade, whatever's going They'll

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Speaker 4: only feel comfortable talking smack about each other in talking

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Speaker 4: heads or on watch what Happens, or in the press.

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Speaker 4: But if you want to get them to talk smack

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Speaker 4: at each other in the scenes, I guess in a

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Speaker 3: Hero for that.

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Speaker 4: But you you know, that's the frustrating part is that

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Speaker 4: it's so much subtext on Beverly Hills where you're watching

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Speaker 4: we talk about Morgan right exactly.

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Speaker 2: So again, when Sudden made that comment, she said her confession,

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Speaker 2: that was her interview.

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Speaker 1: Verbado.

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Speaker 2: I said it, and I don't regret it.

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Speaker 1: Three episodes later, you regret what you said.

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Speaker 2: So to my rain drops, let me tell you how

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Speaker 2: this how this works when you film a scene, all right,

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Speaker 2: so so so rain drops sit still and Listen, when

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Speaker 2: you film a scene and it's happening in real time,

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Speaker 2: you say shit months later, not like the next day,

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Speaker 2: but months, a month, or months later. You film a

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Speaker 2: confessional where the producer's asking you about the moment. Okay,

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Speaker 2: that could be weeks later, months later. So hear me out.

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Speaker 2: When some made that comment, she meant it because she

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Speaker 2: said her confessional weeks later, you say I regret it.

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Speaker 2: Trust me, it's because and listen.

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Speaker 1: It's all alleged.

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Speaker 2: Sutton spoke to her team and they said, you said,

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Speaker 2: what you have to apologize. You have to apologize. You

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Speaker 2: can't double down on it. And that's the reason why

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Speaker 2: rain Drops Dree, to her credit, did not accept the

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Speaker 2: told you how bad you're going to look when this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I love, I mean I love the thought of

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Speaker 4: asking Sudden or any of these housewives the same question

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Speaker 4: line up. Because we had that great moment from Portia

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Speaker 4: But Sudden is interesting because she's all over the place,

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Speaker 4: she's listening to so many people. But you know, at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, her real thoughts are what

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Speaker 2: It is it is, And again, I it's the reason

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Speaker 1: When she complained about was it nineteen C or seventeen

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 2: Again, when she complained to bron and like, I got

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Speaker 1: However, I like the fact that she's like, in my world,

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Speaker 4: So so well, I'm like, seventeen C in my climate

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Speaker 4: be uniquely herself. But I think your point is, don't

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Speaker 4: then backtrack on it, like double down triple down.

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Speaker 3: Don't like. If that's your thought, that's your thought, stay

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Speaker 4: Don't all of a sudden then apologize for something we

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Speaker 1: Big oh exactly, Bingo.

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Speaker 2: So what was interesting though, because a lot of people

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Speaker 2: are saying that bows is of Duri's ask, which I

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Speaker 2: never I never felt for that a lot, exactly, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I never thought that myself. I like the fact that

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Speaker 2: Bowse of all people, has come in saying I'm going

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Speaker 2: to be fair. I don't know these women personally. I'm

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Speaker 2: just going to come in and take these women for

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Speaker 2: face value. She literally has called out Garcell Kyle Sutton,

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Speaker 2: and then in this most recent episode, she told to

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Speaker 2: read you're not being fair.

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Speaker 1: She's apologizing to you. I think you should accept it.

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Speaker 1: I love both. I think she's bringing to the show

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Speaker 1: with so delicious.

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Speaker 4: It's so refreshing to see bos and to see a

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Speaker 4: first season housewife that they're actually giving storyline. She has

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Speaker 4: the most normal scenes that actually have real life consequences.

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Speaker 4: We're seeing this romance Bloom, the introduction of her boyfriend

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Speaker 4: really trust it this moment what she says, It'll be

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Speaker 4: interesting to see in future seasons how she changes, but

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Speaker 4: at this moment, she's the reliable narrator.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and it's fascinating because listen to be this boss

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Speaker 2: She understands how to get her point across in a

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Speaker 2: way to where she's speaking to you, not at you,

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Speaker 2: and that's what makes it so special. Now on the

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Speaker 2: flip side, what we are seeing for the first time

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Speaker 2: in this episode that I'm like, does someone play reality

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Speaker 2: with the King for Garcella Sutton and said, Carl King

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Speaker 2: has been calling this out for three fucking years, and

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Speaker 2: instead of instead of attacking him on Twitter high tweets,

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Speaker 1: Garcell calling out Sutton is.

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Speaker 2: Long overdue, and I was happy to see that finally

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Speaker 2: garcel is seeing that.

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Speaker 1: Look, let's be real.

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Speaker 2: Sutton is a woman from a very high society background. Therefore,

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Speaker 2: she likes to hang with women whose wallet is the

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Speaker 2: same size of hers or bigger. Kyle Richards, at the

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Speaker 2: Sutton's money is capped at three hundred and fifty thousand

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Speaker 1: It's cap you're not going to go above it.

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Speaker 2: So Ryan Strap, Colerid Listen, Mauricio Umansky has a very

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Speaker 2: successful business called The Agency. Kyle Richards also said her

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Speaker 2: because Sutton needs to be in the high society of

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Speaker 2: I think Garcell is finally seeing that. Why are you

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Speaker 2: constantly talking shit about Morgan and Kyle to me? But

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Speaker 2: when we're around Kyle together, I'm the one that has

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Speaker 2: to bring it up.

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Speaker 1: And you sit there and you drink your espresso martini.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, bring it out into the light.

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Speaker 4: I you know, I love Garcel going to bed early,

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Speaker 4: like that's enough. I'm going to bed and not continuing

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Speaker 4: with sudden and I love. I mean, it really threw

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Speaker 4: Sutton off her game a little bit, but I mean

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Speaker 4: it is ridiculou. If you're going to have these conversations,

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Speaker 4: you're on a reality show. You're on a reality show,

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Speaker 4: bring it in and let's talk about it. Let's talk

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Speaker 4: about it even if it's.

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Speaker 3: Good or bad.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like I know more about Mauricio and

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Speaker 4: his relationships than I do Kyle and hers. This isn't

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Speaker 4: the Real Housewives of Mauricio, Like they are separated. I

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Speaker 4: The agencies worldwide are we suggesting there's a financial issue

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Speaker 2: It is, first of all, I'm so gagging the real Mauricio.

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Speaker 1: I don't care.

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Speaker 2: So with that being said, I don't give a shit.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Based on this episode and hearing more conversations from Kyle

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Speaker 1: I believe Mauricio did something.

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Speaker 2: That Kyle said, Okay, we got to be separated. I

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I think they made a deal.

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Speaker 2: Let's deal with this privately and we won't embarrass each

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Speaker 2: because she's not booking stages at Coachella, No, say Morgan, way,

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Speaker 4: Well, I'm sure she's going to rush to do that now, Carlos,

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Speaker 4: after these nice comments, No, I Morgan listen. I well,

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Speaker 4: as a producer, I was wondering this. I was going

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Speaker 3: I don't understand.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you understand. You ready for this? Brother? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's Kyle's show now. No, I'm gonna tell you something

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Speaker 1: that this is all.

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Speaker 3: Alleged in my opinion, right.

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Speaker 1: My opinion.

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Speaker 2: it on Twitter. Okay, Fie, Okay, Look, Kyle Richards is

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Speaker 2: the queen bee of that show. Beverly Hills Housewives is

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Speaker 2: Beverly Hills has ran very differently than Atlanta, Miami, OC.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you're the queen Bee of those shows,

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Speaker 2: if anything, Ryan, you get asked more questions, Like they're like,

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Speaker 2: you everything. It's Kyle's show, and I think those women

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Speaker 2: Erica Jane is not getting her back blown out? No.

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Speaker 1: None of these women knew.

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Speaker 2: That Kyle and Mikyle, that Dri and PK had issues. No.

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Speaker 2: you never want to out somebody if they're not ready

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Speaker 1: Sure, And I think there is kid.

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Speaker 2: Gloves when it comes to how far can we go

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Speaker 1: Which?

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Speaker 3: Which?

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Speaker 1: Which? Which? I at least get that.

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Speaker 4: I that's a great point, and I do understand that.

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Speaker 4: But unfortunately we have two things. You know, two things

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Speaker 4: But unfortunately you've chosen to make a certain part of

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Speaker 3: Off of reality television.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 4: We don't want to call this show the Housewives of

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: And I would argue that, you know, obviously, Kyle, whatever

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Speaker 3: It, it just adds so much.

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Speaker 4: love to hear of like, oh, I got my back

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Speaker 4: piece of dialogue from Erica Jane, like I'm glad you

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Speaker 3: I mean, I want those like real moments.

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Speaker 4: And to your point earlier about to Read, they all

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Speaker 3: The audience didn't.

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Speaker 4: We never got to see one damn fight between them

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Speaker 2: No everything you're saying, and I think that's the reason

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Speaker 2: So their allegiance to this society of the Beverly Hills

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Speaker 2: And that's why those two women are pushing the envelope

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Speaker 1: Because this is this is my thing, Ryan, right.

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Speaker 2: Like, for example, when Garcel is challenging something like and

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Speaker 2: Something is sort of not seeing it, do you think

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Speaker 2: the comfortability that Garcela is not having calling something out

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Speaker 1: But Kyle pushes everyone else to.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean one hundred percent.

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Speaker 4: I feel like I'm watching people collect paychecks rather than

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, this episode was pretty much apparent that this

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Speaker 2: I won't go by the name Carlos Jane because.

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Speaker 1: My good sister.

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Speaker 2: Erica Jane clocked in and Erica, who carried three seasons,

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Speaker 2: and I'm fine with that, but I love Erica clocks

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Speaker 2: but you don't act, You don't act upon it. Not

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Speaker 2: She needs to say those exact words that's been paraphrasing

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Speaker 2: and then Ston being look, I like when Sutton is herself,

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Speaker 1: But I found a comical when she.

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Speaker 2: Said, you said, I don't support women, and she's like,

443
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Speaker 2: no women in this group is who I'm talking about.

444
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: Don't play in the gambles of maxist. To me, the

445
00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,960
Speaker 2: fact that it took that ad I don't support women,

446
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: sut it girl calmed down. But Erica clocking Sutton is

447
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,840
Speaker 2: lack of emotional intelligence when it comes to being there

448
00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 2: for the women on the show was my favorite part

449
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Speaker 2: of the episode to me, because I think it's true.

450
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Speaker 4: You know, it was a it was a great part.

451
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Speaker 4: But come on, like any like a blind deaf person

452
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Speaker 4: can clock Sutton.

453
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Speaker 3: That is not a great feat.

454
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Speaker 4: Like you know you like a broken clock can be

455
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Speaker 4: raw right twice a day, right, Like, it's not hard

456
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 4: to clock Sutton. It's just like people are like sometimes

457
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Speaker 4: like do I want to get into this?

458
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Speaker 3: And so for Erica Jane, this.

459
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Speaker 4: Is like like this is like a free pass, like

460
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Speaker 4: let her rip, you know, and she they set her

461
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Speaker 4: up for this great moment and she has it.

462
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Speaker 3: And I will say for this episode, it had.

463
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Speaker 4: So many funny moments in it, like that moment, and

464
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Speaker 4: you know already Sutton's gonna get rattles. Sutton doesn't know

465
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Speaker 4: how to communicate as effectively as Erica, so it's not.

466
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Speaker 3: Even a fair fight in any sort of way.

467
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Speaker 4: So Erica, it looks amazing, and you know, yeah, I

468
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Speaker 4: will say this is the most I've ever liked Erica

469
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Speaker 4: Jane was this season for me personally, like because I

470
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471
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472
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Speaker 4: But this has been an interesting season for Erica where

473
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Speaker 4: it was like you don't have the hot potato anymore

474
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Speaker 4: and you just get to comment and be around and

475
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Speaker 4: say what you see.

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Speaker 2: I'm Carlos King. Let's get back into the show. I

507
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,359
Speaker 2: definitely can see your point when it comes to like

508
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,199
Speaker 2: something is an easy target because she can the thing

509
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 2: what something is. I like it when she has a

510
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 2: moment where she's sort of unhinged the fact that she's

511
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Speaker 2: like I'm leaving and she's walking away and she's like,

512
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 2: I need to be alone for two seconds. I'm obsessed

513
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:10,040
Speaker 2: with those moments because again, that's the real Suddon. And

514
00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,359
Speaker 2: I find it quite strange, even for me that I

515
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,040
Speaker 2: am now off.

516
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: A sudden like this big spot, because there's a.

517
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Speaker 2: Time where everybody's like Carlos, We're hopping off the Ston train,

518
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 2: and I'm like, no, bitch, I'm in that bitch first class.

519
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Speaker 1: I'm not in seventeen ce Lisa Barlow. I am in

520
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 1: row two fucking A.

521
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: And I am loving everything she's doing because I find

522
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: it so entertaining.

523
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 4: See, I love I love that, I love that there's

524
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 4: a housewife for everybody, and that you know, not everybody's

525
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,199
Speaker 4: gonna love to say, and we all don't watch the

526
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 4: show in the same way either, So like you are

527
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,959
Speaker 4: kind of saying that you love Suddon because of the mess,

528
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 4: because that she will say these unhinged things, and that

529
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 4: is very entertaining to watch. Some of us are watching

530
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 4: it so seriously that we're like, this is ridiculous. It

531
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,960
Speaker 4: is so hurtful. I can't believe it. And that is

532
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,119
Speaker 4: the concept of the show. It was like that, that's

533
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 4: why the sisterhood think at the beginning of the season

534
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,199
Speaker 4: is so funny, because that's how many times have we

535
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 4: seen like a true genuine sisterhood of women.

536
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,240
Speaker 3: That have each other's backs like Bo's.

537
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 4: It was almost cute of her saying this Saint Lucia

538
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 4: trip is going to be so happy, so wonderful, and

539
00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 4: I was like, have you watched any Housewife trip before

540
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 4: Saint Lucia? That is not like And as a producer, Carlos,

541
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 4: when you see Bo's do a talking head where she's

542
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 4: talking about the wonderful like I've planned all of these events,

543
00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: It's going to be so amazing, amazing thing to like

544
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 4: as a producer, are they sitting there going lol? Like

545
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,440
Speaker 4: are they winking at each other? Like we'll see how

546
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,760
Speaker 4: good this is? Like you have a boat, you know

547
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 4: the history of boats on Housewives. They're never going to

548
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 4: have a nice, friendly scene on a boat. And I

549
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 4: love that Bo's is still so wide eyed and innocent

550
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: in this world that she believes this truly will be

551
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Speaker 4: a magical vacation.

552
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 2: Yes, because the thing is this, I tell people all

553
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,280
Speaker 2: the time, when you see a housewive going to cast trip,

554
00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: oh honey, honey, where there is a boat, a dinner table,

555
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: or the beach, an argument is going to ensue. It

556
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 2: is what it is the formula in which we know

557
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:12,200
Speaker 2: will go down. And that's exactly why this episode was

558
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 2: fun to watch because it definitely delivered what we all

559
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 2: wanted it to. When we realize, oh, you guys are

560
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 2: going on a trip, yay, this means we're going to

561
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 2: see some real intense moments. One of the moments that

562
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: I thought was so interesting was this Sutton revealed No,

563
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,920
Speaker 2: it was even I think Garcel Ryan, tell me if

564
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: I got this wrong. Garcel reveilt in her confessional that

565
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: Mo meaning Mauricio, has been seen with that woman before

566
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 2: at the restaurant, multiple places and multiple places. So the

567
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 2: woman that he was caught with at the airport where

568
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: Jennifer Aniston goes there, but the Papa Rochter, the and

569
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Speaker 2: the followed this Rhyanniston.

570
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Speaker 1: They followed Mauricio.

571
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Speaker 2: And it was revealed that that woman has been seeing

572
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Speaker 2: Alvi with Mauricio at dinners and how sut And called Kyle.

573
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Speaker 2: This is the reason why I believe that again there

574
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 2: needs to be a cast change with this show. Why

575
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: are you calling Kyle off camera to say I've seen

576
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: Mauricio out with this woman?

577
00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 4: Wait are you talking about? No, I think Bo's called

578
00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 4: Kyle and left a three and a half minute message. Yes, sorry,

579
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Speaker 4: Bose called Kyle. And then she was like, I'm a

580
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Speaker 4: girl's girl. It was that kind of this amazing moment,

581
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 4: and I think she played a little bit of the

582
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Speaker 4: voice and she was like this girl isn't even good looking.

583
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Speaker 4: If you're gonna do this, do it with a better

584
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Speaker 4: looking girl. And I will say that three and a

585
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 4: half minutes that's better than any Bravo Leberty's podcast out there.

586
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Speaker 4: Like put that three and a half minute voicemail out bows,

587
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Speaker 4: like that is going to be better than any Bravo celebrity.

588
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Speaker 3: Podcast that is on the market currently.

589
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Speaker 4: But that was it is that she left a three

590
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Speaker 4: and a half minute voicemail or voice note to Kyle

591
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Speaker 4: once she saw them at the Soho House in Malibu.

592
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Speaker 1: But that's the thing. I want that shit to be

593
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Speaker 1: on camera.

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Speaker 4: And well why But as a producer, why isn't it

595
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Speaker 4: if you know that exists, if you hear like, why

596
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Speaker 4: are we.

597
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Speaker 3: Not getting those moments?

598
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Speaker 2: Well, that's the thing I think, because listen, I can't

599
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: confirm this right because I don't work on the show.

600
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Speaker 2: I think Kyle just has these ladies not bowing down

601
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 2: to her. That's the wrong word to use, but I

602
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 2: think Kyle, I mean, Kyle has set the stage for

603
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Speaker 2: this is my show, and I set the tone for

604
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Speaker 2: what happened. And I yes, I love the moment of

605
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 2: the Voiceboule being played, but I like it better when

606
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: it happens in real time. I miss the days of

607
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 2: like you hold things until the cameras on and you say, hey,

608
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Speaker 2: by the way, I was at so House Malibu and

609
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 2: you're eating your medium rare steak and you say, and

610
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: I saw Marisa with a woman, like why not do that?

611
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:00,000
Speaker 1: So for me, great moment for the show.

612
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 2: Oh, but I think it's another thing that raises the

613
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 2: flag in terms of like what has happened to Beverly Hills.

614
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: Why is this show feeling self produced behind the scene.

615
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 2: And so protected and nobody's having real conversations and listen,

616
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say this, and I mean when I say

617
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: it makes me miss Jersey because at least with Jersey.

618
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: Wow, wow, girls.

619
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Call each other out so much and you're like, well, damn,

620
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: Like watching Beverley Hills this season makes me miss Jersey Housewives.

621
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Speaker 4: There could be a happy balance, Carlos, Who I mean,

622
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 4: couldn't there be a mix of Jersey and like, there

623
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:37,960
Speaker 4: should be more of this mix, And right now it

624
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 4: just feels like Beverly Hills is all about what's not

625
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 4: said and what's not told, and you know, Jersey always

626
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 4: feels like it's like everything's out there and so like

627
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,959
Speaker 4: there has to be some sort of balance. And I

628
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 4: was like sitting there thinking less and I was like,

629
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Speaker 4: is it humane to just have these ladies attached to

630
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Speaker 4: a GoPro like three sixty five, like a live mic,

631
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 4: like you know, Portia and Dennis they have live mics

632
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 4: at the end of this week's Atlanta you know, hot

633
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 4: Mike hot mic, which, by the way, that was another

634
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 4: moment I still am like, wait, don't you have to

635
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 4: check in your mic pack at the end of filming?

636
00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 3: How are they still having their mics on?

637
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 4: And so why can't we just mike these Beverly Hills

638
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 4: ladies up twenty four to seven, like, just have a mic,

639
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 4: just a hot mic moment all the time. We don't

640
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,479
Speaker 4: even need the cameras, just the audio.

641
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Speaker 1: I'm with you, because they're not giving it to us.

642
00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: But this is why, this is why this social experiment

643
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: of Beverly Hills Housewoks is so entertaining. Because Belly Hills

644
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Speaker 2: is in California. Orange County is in California. These two

645
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Speaker 2: shows could not be more different. Yeah, could not be

646
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: more different, both in California, but closely different. Those OC women.

647
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Speaker 2: I think Carlos King is saying this, and I don't

648
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:51,719
Speaker 2: care who gets mad. What makes OC the greatest of

649
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Speaker 2: all time in terms of a show that has lasted

650
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Speaker 2: almost twenty years ninety Yes, and their last couple of

651
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: seasons have been the best ever.

652
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Speaker 1: That's you got to give them a trophy for that.

653
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: Those OC women call each other out, but they always

654
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Speaker 2: find a way to resolve it.

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Speaker 1: And I believe they like each other. I believe they

656
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Speaker 1: like each other. I believe Gina Emily.

657
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,399
Speaker 3: I believe they want to like each other.

658
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,959
Speaker 4: I believe they want to like each other or they're

659
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 4: open to liking each other, where it feels like Beverly

660
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 4: Hill's pretty resolute in what these friendships are, how far

661
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: they're willing to go. At this point, there is gonna

662
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: be no de Read Garcel, There's gonna be no Duret

663
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 4: Sutton at this point. I feel like it's pretty finite

664
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,759
Speaker 4: in what their relationships are. And we've gone to you're

665
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 4: gonna keep seeing the same beats again and again with

666
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 4: those three ladies in particular, whereas OC, you know, really

667
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: like to their credit, and also I would include salt

668
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:53,200
Speaker 4: Lake on this and the Atlanta this season. I mean,

669
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 4: we have new cast members and they're already working off

670
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 4: of each other way better than these Beverly Hills ladies are.

671
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 4: I mean new cast members on Atlanta already working together

672
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 4: in a scene where they're on top of each other

673
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 4: and they're calling people out, and I was so refreshed.

674
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,759
Speaker 4: It was so refreshing to see that in Atlanta, because

675
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 4: sometimes with new cast members, you're like, oh, this is

676
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 4: gonna be a slow build. But I think salt Lake

677
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 4: does it excellent and OC, yeah, last season one of

678
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,520
Speaker 4: the best seasons ever. I just don't feel like Beverly

679
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 4: Hills is in that same realm anymore, which is.

680
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,960
Speaker 3: Wild because it's a lot of our favorite favorite Housewives iteration.

681
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah no, Kyle rich is my number one favorite Housewives.

682
00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 2: So I do believe that a change has to happen

683
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 2: in order for this show to get back to his

684
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 2: glory days. Atlanta is having a great season. Two episodes

685
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: in Salt Lake City is an amazing show. I loved

686
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: every single episode. There was not one filler. OC is

687
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 2: the greatest in terms of an amazing season for a

688
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:51,720
Speaker 2: show that's.

689
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: Been off for almost twenty years.

690
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 2: And I just think there needs to be a real

691
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 2: conversation about like what is Beverley Hills, because it can't

692
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:05,879
Speaker 2: be about like you said, Beverly Hills is so like Seinfeld.

693
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 1: It's like it's a show about the show, you know,

694
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 1: it's not about like these women getting along.

695
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:18,480
Speaker 2: It's sort of like, well this happened at Solhouse in Malibu.

696
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 2: Well this happened at the airport. Well this happened. It's like,

697
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 2: why aren't we seeing it and being told about it? Yeah?

698
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 4: Well no, I had a great acting teacher back in

699
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 4: the day. That's always like show us, don't tell us,

700
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: show us. We want to see things that are shown.

701
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 4: Don't tell us about it, show it. And I know

702
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 4: we're working under the confines of like shooting days, but

703
00:36:38,280 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 4: it is that thing is that you know, Beverly Hills

704
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 4: is always going to get a really high ratings in

705
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 4: terms of viewers, so they can kind of coast a

706
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 4: little bit and still get like a what like a

707
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 4: point eight zero nine and like ratings every week. They

708
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 4: can coast on that, so they don't have to make

709
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 4: any real changes. But I think, in my heart, I

710
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 4: want them to break this show for the overall health

711
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 4: of it in the long run. And I don't know

712
00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 4: what that necessarily means, but I do think there's a

713
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 4: world in which we get these ladies, you know, working

714
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 4: together in a more dynamic fashion, even if it's fighting

715
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 4: in a more dynamic fashion, because I feel like they're

716
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 4: getting lapped by other housewives and this shouldn't happen with

717
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: Beverly Hills. And I know that's I don't want to

718
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 4: be negative because there's still so many great things about

719
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:24,319
Speaker 4: this and you know, it's so funny. I'm just you

720
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 4: watch these other shows and it's sometimes a much more

721
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 4: enjoyable viewing experience.

722
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,360
Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, now listen, I agree with one hundred percent

723
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 2: of what you're saying. I really did enjoy this episode

724
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: because I felt like things were being called out to

725
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: the forefront, and I enjoyed that. But I think if

726
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: you think about the future of the show, I mean,

727
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 2: look all of the Hollywood stylists, from Julia Roberts to

728
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 2: Jennifer what's her name, Laurence, thank you, Ryan, they.

729
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: Watched the show, so it is, and I think Reese Riperspoon.

730
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: Watched it because she was on the plane with Cobridge

731
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 2: Church and they have a deal together allegedly.

732
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 1: So it's watched.

733
00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 2: Like you said, by so many people because it's aspiration though,

734
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: and it's a good looking show in terms of like

735
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:13,760
Speaker 2: showing Billy Hills, showing California, showing the Armez bags, Jennifer

736
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 2: Tilley and her lifestyle, Kathie Hilton. You get to see

737
00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 2: all these amazing things. But when I think about the

738
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 2: longevity of the show, I think they have to take

739
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: a page out of the Book of OC. Not the

740
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: Book of Psalms, not the Book of Jacob, but the

741
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 2: Book of OC. Okay, and really come back to what

742
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: you said. Even if you aren't the best of friends.

743
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 2: One thing OC does well is you believe they want

744
00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 2: to like each other and you believe they want to

745
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,279
Speaker 2: be friends and they really want this to work. And

746
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 2: I just don't believe that for Billy Hills.

747
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, we even have these like you know, uh,

748
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 4: Deuri brings up Kim Richards to Kyle, and Kyle's like, oh, listen,

749
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 4: we don't really you know, we're not as close anymore

750
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 4: and we don't dive any deeper into that, you know,

751
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 4: and like Kim is og Beverly Hills, and I think

752
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:06,879
Speaker 4: the audience would love to know a little bit more

753
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 4: about that. So we have these great I mean, listen,

754
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 4: at this point, Kyle just needs.

755
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 3: To date John Jansen. I get this show back on

756
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: the back on track.

757
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 4: But you have all of these great building blocks and

758
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 4: this show will always be there. There's no chance this

759
00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 4: show will ever go off the air unless they choose

760
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 4: to have that. But I just I want I don't know,

761
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:29,879
Speaker 4: it's hard, like I don't you would know this way

762
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 4: more than I would as a producer. I just want

763
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 4: them to like take this very seriously and not be

764
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 4: able to hide as much as they are. And with

765
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 4: the Mauricio like I just feel like, God, I'm getting

766
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 4: every bit of information about Mauricio that I want, and

767
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 4: he's barely even on the show. Like I know his

768
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,240
Speaker 4: dating history way better than any of those other ladies,

769
00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 4: and that, to me is frustrating. I'm still confused about

770
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: durt and PK, Like, wait, seven page email, you're threatening

771
00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 4: to divorce. We see the scene last week where he's like,

772
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 4: I don't know if we'll be divorced. I don't know

773
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 4: no resolution there, Like where are we are you dating

774
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 4: anybody to read?

775
00:40:03,360 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: You know, has anybody caught your eye?

776
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 4: And on top of it, we have things like we

777
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 4: see christylanex Durite's glam that came at her this past

778
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 4: week or a week and a half ago, which is

779
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 4: a wild thing to not comment on when we're talking

780
00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,759
Speaker 4: about pocketbooks and wallets and things like that. Of we

781
00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 4: have this guy christillan Nex, who you see briefly in

782
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:25,480
Speaker 4: a shot from last night's episode, who was there on

783
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 4: the trip with Durit, saying that potentially or allegedly, Durite

784
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 4: didn't pay some portion of a bill. And I'm like, Okay,

785
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 4: whether that's true or not, that would be interesting fodder

786
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 4: for the show.

787
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 2: Yes, because we tracked when people used accue Charae of

788
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 2: not paying bills, we didn't hide it. We showed it,

789
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: and we showed Charae defending herself. We showed char saying

790
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 2: they did complete the job, I'm not paying them. So again,

791
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:56,640
Speaker 2: I don't understand this big protection that is clouding Biley Hills,

792
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 2: but it's not making for a season that could have

793
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 2: been great because it started off strong to me with

794
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: the re versus Kyle, and then I think once that

795
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 2: sort of like simmered.

796
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:14,239
Speaker 4: Oh that was so good with Durit's smoking in the car.

797
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 3: And I was like, wow, this is like really this that.

798
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: Felt so frantic and real, and or even the Kyle

799
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 4: Darite scene at Duret's place where you see that she's

800
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 4: like her whole like her plants are dying and she's

801
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 4: like like hoarding things almost out.

802
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 3: Of here, like wow, dar you know, and Kyle's like

803
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: it used to be so clean in here.

804
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 4: Those little moments are like, to me, what makes this

805
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 4: show fly? But then they kind of get dropped or

806
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,959
Speaker 4: pushed to the wayside, and I think, to me, that's

807
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 4: like really interesting because you're like, oh, wow, Dured has

808
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 4: nothing to lose. This season, but I thought it was

809
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 4: way more interesting when it went with her and Kyle

810
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 4: as opposed to her and Sutton.

811
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 1: Yeah.

812
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 2: Agree, So Ryan, my last question for you is this,

813
00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:51,360
Speaker 2: who would you like.

814
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 1: To see return to next season of Belly Hills.

815
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 4: Man, I'm gonna really get people hate me right now,

816
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 4: Like I mean, this is It's gonna be really bad,

817
00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 4: and I'm so sorry, and I want to tell you

818
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:04,879
Speaker 4: I'm basic a nice person and I this is I

819
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 4: I say this with peace and love. I want Kyle

820
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:11,440
Speaker 4: to sit a season out. I just I know that's

821
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 4: never gonna happen unless she chooses it, but I want

822
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,360
Speaker 4: her to sit it out. I want her to really

823
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 4: think about things and really like kind of figure out

824
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 4: what her life is looking like at this point forward.

825
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 4: I want her to sit out. And I there's no

826
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,759
Speaker 4: way to answer this question. That's if Kyle's out, I

827
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 4: think Sorry, guys, I think Garcell's out as well.

828
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:35,319
Speaker 3: Break up.

829
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:38,280
Speaker 4: These things don't have sudden have anybody there in her corner,

830
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 4: don't have the Garcel of it all, don't have the

831
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 4: I mean, I want to see more of Bow's I

832
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 4: want to see, like, let's see how Eric like Erica Jane.

833
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 4: You got to see a different side of once Lisa

834
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 4: Reno was off the show. I thought that was really interesting.

835
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:52,800
Speaker 4: So some of these friendships are even like on Potomac

836
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 4: with the you know, Giselle and Robin being split up,

837
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 4: you get to see another facet of their personality. So

838
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 4: what does Durit look like without trying to get Kyle's

839
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 4: affections or sudden without Kyle's affections? It seems like Kyle

840
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 4: everybody is gunning for affections. Maybe we need to take

841
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: that away and see where those ladies stand at that

842
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 4: point on and then refresh with a couple of like

843
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 4: maybe heavy hitters. I don't know if you want to

844
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 4: do stunt casting like Denise Richards, but there is a

845
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 4: world in which potentially, if you're going to get somebody

846
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 4: big away like that from Kyle, maybe somebody else comes

847
00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 4: in that's an actual name.

848
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: Do I know? What I just said is Bunker's bananas?

849
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 3: What about you?

850
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: I listen. I love a choice that is controversial like that.

851
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 4: So Kyle's my favorite with no, Kyle's my favorite too.

852
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 4: I hate to say that Kyle is somebody that I

853
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,640
Speaker 4: think is like I genuinely will love her no matter

854
00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 4: what she does, and if she's on this show until

855
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 4: the end of time, it's deservedly. So I'm just trying

856
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 4: to think of, like what could actually make people sit

857
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: up and pay attention.

858
00:43:56,400 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: Listen, I am not going to allan you and your thought.

859
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: I love a controversial thinging. I love it. I love it.

860
00:44:05,400 --> 00:44:07,440
Speaker 1: I would love to see chrisy Tiagan on the show.

861
00:44:08,360 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: I wouldn't you love to see that John Legend relationship

862
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:12,359
Speaker 4: in real life?

863
00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:17,240
Speaker 1: Just I want to see Listen.

864
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 2: What made Billy Hill special to me was like when

865
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 2: I got a chance to see like my soap opera

866
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: stars be real people like Lisa Renna who was Bobby

867
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 2: and Days of Our Lives and Eileen Davidson, you know.

868
00:44:29,760 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 3: What I mean.

869
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: Like, and then you know I knew.

870
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 2: Of Kyle and Kim based on Paris Hilton being their niece,

871
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 2: So I just enjoyed that. And then I'm a fan

872
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 2: of Guarsel from my childhood. So and then I mean,

873
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,319
Speaker 2: Denise fucking Richards for Pete's sake, Like, I do want

874
00:44:51,480 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 2: some old Hollywood or soap opera stars to come to

875
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Speaker 2: this show. So I do want to see more celebrities

876
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: because I think what makes Hills so special is when

877
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,279
Speaker 2: you see celebrities be real people. It's sort of like

878
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 2: the US Weekly category in the magazine Celebrities. They're just

879
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: like us, and I want to see that. I think

880
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: the plot has been missing in terms of, like, let's

881
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: see wealthy celebrity women who are willing to show us

882
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: a piece of their lifestyle. Adrian Mloof was fantastic, you

883
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 2: know what I mean, like Lisa Vanda Pump, but like

884
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 2: we had Adrian Mlouke who owned a fucking basketball team,

885
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: like you can't who's denied that star power? Oh?

886
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Speaker 3: What about well?

887
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Speaker 4: I mean, this is what about Meghan Good who just

888
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: got engaged to John I.

889
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Speaker 3: Will see that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if you were going to go far, I

891
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Speaker 2: want to see Megan mark all.

892
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Speaker 4: I mean by the way she might need the career

893
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:56,880
Speaker 4: rehab eventually. Or what about what is there a world

894
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 4: and this suld would there be a world in which

895
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Speaker 4: Paris Hilton would join and you'd still be able to

896
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Speaker 4: keep Kathy that way and like this kind of periphery role.

897
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, there's so many options, but

898
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Speaker 4: I think you know, from a production angle, I just wonder, like,

899
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Speaker 4: you know, if it's not completely broken, don't fix it.

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Speaker 4: If we're bringing in the advertising dollars, don't. I mean,

901
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Speaker 4: but at the end of the day, I just think

902
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 4: it's gonna make the job harder and harder as seasons

903
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Speaker 4: continue unless we break down the secrets and all of

904
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Speaker 4: the defenses that are like put up these ladies, like

905
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Speaker 4: you said, the protections. If we can break those down

906
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Speaker 4: a little bit, I think you have a wonderful cast.

907
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Speaker 4: But like let it rip, you know, like Porscha said

908
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Speaker 4: this week, you know, or the producer said to Porsche,

909
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Speaker 4: break it, break it.

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Speaker 3: I can I break the fourth wall? Break it, like

911
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:40,879
Speaker 3: break this show? Break it? Yes?

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Speaker 1: No, I Ryan, you know, I disagree with you. I

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Speaker 1: agree with you.

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Speaker 2: Break it something. Yes, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.

915
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 2: But I feel like it may not be broken. But

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00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,120
Speaker 2: I definitely feel like there's a little loose script.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, Guysia, please don't. I'm not saying this is

918
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Speaker 4: completely broken. I still watch it. I still laugh at

919
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Speaker 4: so many moments. I think it's just because I have

920
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 4: such a deep love for it that I want better

921
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Speaker 4: for it in the long run.

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Speaker 3: And that's it. And also we Carlos real quick, but

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Speaker 3: I do.

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Speaker 4: Kathy Hilton, this is one of our greatest performing artists

925
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Speaker 4: of all time. Yeah, we have to admit at this

926
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Speaker 4: point that she is like fully fully doing fake scenes,

927
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Speaker 4: right like the scene with her assistant on the phone

928
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Speaker 4: where she goes off and does the makeup. You know,

929
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Speaker 4: like that's very Kathy and we're like, oh, crazy Kathy.

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Speaker 4: But there's a cameraman in there. You don't just forget,

931
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Speaker 4: Like there's a cameraman with a camera, a guy in

932
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Speaker 4: like cargo shorts, filming Kathy Hilton in her bedroom and bathroom.

933
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Speaker 4: Does Kathy Hilton really forget that her assistant is on

934
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Speaker 4: the line for twenty minutes?

935
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Speaker 3: Or is that a.

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Speaker 4: Bit that Kathy does because she's our world, she's our

937
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 4: world's greatest performing artist.

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Speaker 1: I believe it is a little bit of both.

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Speaker 2: I definitely believe in the beginning, when Kathy first came

940
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Speaker 2: on the show, the sort of like comedy relief was her.

941
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Speaker 2: And what happens that I can share with you a

942
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Speaker 2: reality producer, what happens is when in reality star gets

943
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:10,240
Speaker 2: rewarded for a very singular behavior trope, they go above

944
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Speaker 2: and beyond to constantly give you that. And I think

945
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Speaker 2: what Kathy is doing is she's leaning more into it.

946
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Speaker 2: I think it's funny. I kind of think we're all

947
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,560
Speaker 2: over it. To be honest with you, I think the

948
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: bit is a little bit too much pun intended. I

949
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Speaker 2: think she's playing into the trope of like, oh, I'm

950
00:48:28,719 --> 00:48:31,280
Speaker 2: this ditsi woman. Do I think she's a fun ditsi

951
00:48:31,400 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: woman in real life?

952
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Speaker 4: Sure? Right?

953
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: But I definitely think.

954
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Speaker 4: I think she's smart as hell. I think she's smart

955
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:38,479
Speaker 4: as hell.

956
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,280
Speaker 1: Like I think it's a character.

957
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 2: Right When I say she's did see, I mean the

958
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Speaker 2: character she has to portrayed, Like when Paris has to

959
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,399
Speaker 2: reveal to us that that's not her rope speaking voice.

960
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's like, what's up? Like she has like a baritone.

961
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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I think that's what Kathy does. I think

962
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 2: Paris had said she she makes money playing this character,

963
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: which was a ditsie blond, and I think that what

964
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Speaker 2: Kathy Hilton has done. She's the adult version of Paris.

965
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 2: And my last draw with the bit was the fashion show.

966
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, girl, that's it.

967
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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, Like you've been to so many fashion

968
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Speaker 4: shows with both of your daughters, with all of your family,

969
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,279
Speaker 4: there is no way that you didn't know that you

970
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 4: were standing in front, or to even go backstage and

971
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 4: suggest that Durree make hey, duri should make some comments

972
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:26,800
Speaker 4: during the fashion.

973
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Speaker 3: Show, like Kathy knows how fashion shows.

974
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 4: Are run better than most fashion shows, like there's no way,

975
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 4: but it's funny as hell. The audience gets that quick

976
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 4: hit of adrenaline because it's a funny moment. But I

977
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 4: just think Kathy Hilton is so damn smart, and it's

978
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 4: like Chris Jenner in a way. We'll never see the

979
00:49:42,320 --> 00:49:45,279
Speaker 4: real Chris Jenner on the Kardashians, but we know she's

980
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 4: there and she's really powerful.

981
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 2: Agreed a great agree, And I would like to see

982
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,440
Speaker 2: Kim Riches come back. So that's that's that's that's my thing.

983
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 1: That's it. If she's if she's at a good place

984
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: in her life and her sobriety team recovery.

985
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: But that's important, that's the most important, you know, as

986
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 2: a human being. So my Boston prayers and love goes

987
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,040
Speaker 2: out to Kim Richards. But whenever she's ready to be

988
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: back on television the best healthy way possible, I would

989
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,360
Speaker 2: love to see her comeback. Just like Ryan Strak, I

990
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:17,719
Speaker 2: would love to see you come back. On Reality with

991
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: the King. I always have so much fun with you.

992
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 2: You're so intelligent and you bring so much thoughtful dialogue

993
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 2: to these shows, and today's episode was no exception. But

994
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 2: you also have an amazing podcast that we all love

995
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 2: so Bad is Good with Ryan Bailey, So talk to

996
00:50:35,080 --> 00:50:38,799
Speaker 2: us about the podcast, what they can expect, and how

997
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,600
Speaker 2: they can subscribe to your podcast as well.

998
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:45,359
Speaker 4: Yeah, just go on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, leave a five

999
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 4: star review.

1000
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 3: Do it for this one as well. If you hated anything.

1001
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 4: That I said, just skip the podcast entirely and just

1002
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:54,880
Speaker 4: support Carlos Raindrops. But no, we I do a full

1003
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 4: like line by line reenactment of Beverly Hills and like

1004
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 4: I'm doing somewhere else Southern Charm, Atlanta. But we also

1005
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 4: do things like we had Susan Morrison, who has a

1006
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:06,200
Speaker 4: New York Times bestseller about Lauren Michaels, the creator of

1007
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:08,400
Speaker 4: Saturday Night Live that's out right now. We did an

1008
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: hour long conversation with her about SNL's fiftieth and the

1009
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,360
Speaker 4: origination of SNL. So we'll we did the Karen Reid trial,

1010
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,839
Speaker 4: so we go into different pockets of pop culture. But

1011
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 4: my one true love has always been reality series. And

1012
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:22,759
Speaker 4: that's why, Carlos, you know what a fan I was

1013
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 4: of yours even before I got to meet you, So

1014
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,320
Speaker 4: anytime to be able to speak to you is truly

1015
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 4: truly meaningful to me. So thank you, man, I really

1016
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 4: appreciate this opportunity.

1017
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Speaker 1: No, thank you, And I love your podcast.

1018
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 2: I'm a subscriber and I listened to it weekly, and guys, listen,

1019
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Bailey is so funny, but he really the difference

1020
00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 2: between Ryan's pod having a lot of others is he

1021
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,880
Speaker 2: goes deep in the in the in the conversations about

1022
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 2: these shows, and he really he really brings an intelligent,

1023
00:51:54,480 --> 00:51:57,360
Speaker 2: you know, conversation to what we're seeing and it's so

1024
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:00,920
Speaker 2: thought provoking. So if you're looking for our thought provoking

1025
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,040
Speaker 2: podcast that also was funny and hilarious, make sure you guys.

1026
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Speaker 1: Subscribe to you. So bad is good with Ryan Bailey.

1027
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Speaker 1: I'm a fan of his work and his podcast.

1028
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,399
Speaker 4: Well now I'm gonna cry. Now you're making me. We're

1029
00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 4: having a tearful and joyful moments. Which, by the way,

1030
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 4: I was listening to you talk about Atlanta. You know,

1031
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: I was like, I'd already watch Atlanta and I loved it,

1032
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 4: and then I was watching a clip of you where

1033
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:25,279
Speaker 4: you're like, here's the deal, rain drops it I you

1034
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 4: almost got like.

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, he's gonna say he

1036
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:28,200
Speaker 3: hated it.

1037
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 4: He's gonna say you were like, I've got to be

1038
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:31,560
Speaker 4: honest with you.

1039
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:33,279
Speaker 3: I've got to be and I was like, oh my god.

1040
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 4: I literally just did a whole recap where I thought,

1041
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,960
Speaker 4: I said, this is like the best thing, and.

1042
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,399
Speaker 3: Then you're like, it's fantastic, ten out of ten.

1043
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 4: And I was like, oh god, thank god, because I

1044
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 4: was like, if I am this far off in what

1045
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,719
Speaker 4: I saw on that first episode of Atlanta, I was

1046
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 4: going to be so embarrassed. And I was like, but

1047
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 4: you really teased me, you know what I'm talking about.

1048
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,160
Speaker 4: You really teased it in that video, and I really

1049
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,759
Speaker 4: thought you were going to say it was horrible, and

1050
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 4: I was like, oh my god, am I not seen something.

1051
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 4: So I'm just glad that you made me more confidently

1052
00:52:59,120 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 4: at work.

1053
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Speaker 3: So thank you.

1054
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: No, it was good. It was good. It was good.

1055
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Speaker 2: It was a great premiere. If you guys aren't watching Atlanta,

1056
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 2: you missing out. Watch Atlanta Housewives every Sunday. Antacom sum

1057
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 2: Central and Beverly Hills Too, every Tuesday eight o'clock Summer

1058
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 2: Central and both shows the next day on Peacock Ryan

1059
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: and My Brother, Thank you and I will talk to

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Speaker 2: you soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you by rain Drops.

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00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:26,960
Speaker 2: Thank you for listening to Reality with the King. New

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00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:32,759
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Speaker 2: and Yes Baby, my YouTube channel where you could get

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Speaker 2: the King is a production of Kingdom Reign Entertainment, an

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