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Speaker 2: Missed field goal may leave the window of opportunity open

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Speaker 2: for Texas Tech. But as we sit right now, Oregon

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Speaker 2: toppling Texas Tech sixteen to nothing, and it raises a

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Speaker 2: very real question about rest versus rust because if this

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Speaker 2: remind you every single team so far that it's been

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Speaker 2: lucky enough to get the first round by and the

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Speaker 2: College Football Playoff, every team they got the first round

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Speaker 2: by last year they lost.

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Speaker 3: We saw Miami go down.

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Speaker 2: And they win their first round matchup, been inn upset,

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Speaker 2: and now we are watching Oregon beat Texas Tech. So

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Speaker 2: far over you get the first round by, you lose?

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Speaker 2: Is the college football Playoff? The problem is the calendar

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Speaker 2: of the problem. Is it coincidence?

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Speaker 3: We'll figure it out.

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Speaker 2: He's Buck Rising, I'm Jason fitz hanging out with He's

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Speaker 2: a bucking Fits takeover on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 2: I don't know what to make of it, Like, look

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Speaker 2: but every single team that gets first round by come

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Speaker 2: out and just gets beat.

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Speaker 3: There's got to be something to it.

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Speaker 1: Why would you put that evil on me today? Indiana's

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's exactly. I mean, of course, why

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Speaker 3: What are we doing here?

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would like to feel good about the idea

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Speaker 1: Should we continue to see such upsets moving forward? As

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're seeing the best of their defenses, right.

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Speaker 1: This is something we talk about every year at the

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Speaker 3: He's Buck rising on, Jason Fitz.

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Speaker 2: You spade at a hotel to watch your favorite team lose,

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Speaker 2: on campuses because you can't tell me this wouldn't have

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Speaker 2: been like, you cannot tell me Texas Tech wouldn't have

440
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Speaker 2: felt different even about this game having the four seat

441
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Speaker 2: at home at Texas Tech.

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Speaker 3: I mean that's just an that would have been a

443
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Speaker 3: killer environment to watch.

444
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Speaker 1: Again, it's about what is really the advantage of getting

445
00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,720
Speaker 1: the top seeds in the college football playoff? Right, We

446
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,680
Speaker 1: talked about this earlier, and think about the Ohio State

447
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 1: Miami game last night. Ohio State fans just spent all

448
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Speaker 1: of last year in some form or fashion, traveling around paying.

449
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you know it's mostly about the travel because

450
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,520
Speaker 1: the get in prices for these games are actually pretty

451
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Speaker 1: cost effectors because they're not actually getting the attendance that

452
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Speaker 1: they want. And so does the Orange Bowl, the Rose Bowl,

453
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Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl, all these different things, do they still

454
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Speaker 1: carry that same level of gravitas and history if aesthetically

455
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Speaker 1: you got a bunch of empties like it looks like

456
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Speaker 1: a regular season Dolphins game in there, which is not

457
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Speaker 1: a compliment because the Dolphins games are not well attended

458
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Speaker 1: at hard Rock Stadium throughout the course of the season

459
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Speaker 1: and I mean depending on the season. But still, you

460
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Speaker 1: understand my point, this is not something that does justice

461
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Speaker 1: to that they're trying to protect, which is the mystique

462
00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 1: of these legendary bowl games beyond being you know, looking

463
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Speaker 1: more like the Hawaii Bowl or the Vegas Bowl than

464
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Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl or the Orange Bowl. It's a weird thing.

465
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Speaker 1: You're not gonna pay this much money if you're a

466
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Speaker 1: fan of any college football program to travel around to

467
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Speaker 1: various parts of the country just to see your football

468
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Speaker 1: team play. You're gonna pick one game, right, and you're

469
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of people like Indiana is gonna

470
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Speaker 1: have a good contingent at the Rose Bowl. Indiana, I mean,

471
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Speaker 1: it's not a Cinderella right there. The number one seed.

472
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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that later, I'm sure, because Miami looks

473
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Speaker 1: more like that than Indiana does. But I'm looking at

474
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Speaker 1: the crowd. We're seeing the crowd shots of the Rose

475
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Speaker 1: Bowl now, and it will be well attended. I feel

476
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Speaker 1: pretty confident in that. But that's because Indiana is just

477
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Speaker 1: happy to be here, right They don't know that they're

478
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Speaker 1: going to advance to the Peach Bowl next weekend and

479
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Speaker 1: see Oregon at this point in time and a potential rematch.

480
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Speaker 1: They don't know how many more times they're gonna get

481
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Speaker 1: to go back to a game like the Rose Bowl

482
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Speaker 1: to see their team as a number one seed in

483
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Speaker 1: the college football Playoff. Although as long as Signetti is there,

484
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Speaker 1: it feels like they have a pretty good chance to

485
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Speaker 1: at least be postseason participants. I think that these are

486
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Speaker 1: the kind of things, as we talked about in the

487
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Speaker 1: first segment, that really do need to be examined in

488
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:20,119
Speaker 1: what serves the game best? Are we just doing things?

489
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Speaker 1: And there is some component of this where you can

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Speaker 1: just answer it simply by saying, well, yeah, they answer

491
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Speaker 1: to all of your questions is money. There is money

492
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Speaker 1: associated with this. Is it so worth it to the

493
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Speaker 1: state of college football, to the state of these programs

494
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Speaker 1: to put them in positions where you are making life

495
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Speaker 1: harder on them? Because in reality, and I talked to

496
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Speaker 1: buddy of mine at TCU a couple of days ago,

497
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Speaker 1: maybe a week or so ago, before their bowl game

498
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Speaker 1: against USC, and he was pointing out to me the

499
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Speaker 1: difficulty of their college football playoff run a couple of

500
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Speaker 1: years ago because they didn't have the travel, all the

501
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Speaker 1: different things budgeted for all the different places they were

502
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Speaker 1: going to have to pick up and move a college

503
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Speaker 1: football that way. And I'm not saying, you know, oh,

504
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: poor TCU or poor Alabama or poor Indiana, like these

505
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 1: programs have money, but still the amount of strain that

506
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Speaker 1: you're putting on your fan bases and your participants. It's

507
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Speaker 1: just the juice is not worth the squeeze.

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Speaker 3: And that's where I guess.

509
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Speaker 2: For me, I have such a logic in my life

510
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 2: of so what now, what where are we today?

511
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Speaker 3: And how do we move forward? I don't really care

512
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:24,560
Speaker 3: how we got here, how do we move forward?

513
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Speaker 2: I care about history for the sense of studying it

514
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 2: so you don't repeat it. I care about history because

515
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,120
Speaker 2: I think it's important for contextual conversations. But I don't

516
00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:34,560
Speaker 2: think that that has to bog down growth. And so

517
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Speaker 2: I look at all of this and I say, okay,

518
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Speaker 2: I hear you. When everybody says, well, you know the money,

519
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 2: the money, and the money, My answer to that is

520
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Speaker 2: the real money from the Orange Bowl comes from the

521
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Speaker 2: Capital One portion of it. So now the question is

522
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Speaker 2: what's a better return on investment for Capital One? And

523
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Speaker 2: I don't know this, I'm not in their meeting. What's

524
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Speaker 2: a better return on investment? In my mind, is it

525
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Speaker 2: showing me a.

526
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Speaker 3: Three hour Capital One advertisement.

527
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Speaker 2: In an empty stadium in Miami with the dead atmosphere

528
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Speaker 2: and a bad band play at halftime, or is it

529
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Speaker 2: a home game at Texas Tech that's still called the

530
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Speaker 2: Capitol One whatever, Orange Bowl, call it whatever the hell

531
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Speaker 2: you want to. I don't care call it the Capitol

532
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,840
Speaker 2: One Playoffs some and I don't care. Keep the Capitol

533
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,679
Speaker 2: One attachment, to keep the brand sponsorship attachment to it,

534
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Speaker 2: and let that game be where it needs to be.

535
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Speaker 2: And part of this is I'm asking college football fans

536
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Speaker 2: like myself to think about what history is.

537
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Speaker 3: Going to look like in thirty years.

538
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: So where I go to is, instead of being focused

539
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Speaker 2: on what the Orange Bowl has always been, ask yourself,

540
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Speaker 2: what is the best way to keep the Orange Bowl

541
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Speaker 2: as relevant as it can be forever?

542
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Speaker 3: And that's to make it a site game. It just is.

543
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Speaker 2: And so even if that's a burden on the sponsors,

544
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,679
Speaker 2: and even if that's a pain in the ass for

545
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Speaker 2: everybody to try and figure out how to get their

546
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Speaker 2: signage and their events plans and all these things on

547
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Speaker 2: short notice, I understand the burdens that that creates for

548
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Speaker 2: the sponsored elements of it. Buck But to me, it's

549
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Speaker 2: so abundantly clear, like today's game would have been a

550
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Speaker 2: better environment.

551
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Speaker 3: Today's game would have been a better one.

552
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Speaker 2: Today's game would have been more people would have been

553
00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: locked in the entire way to a blowout football game.

554
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 2: If we were seeing that and surrender Cobra every three seconds,

555
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,640
Speaker 2: you can't see surrender Cobra when nobody that went there

556
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Speaker 2: surrendering like it's just it's it's too vanilla of an environment.

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Speaker 2: And you know that works for your championship game, because

558
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Speaker 2: it has to work for your championship game. You can't

559
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Speaker 2: tell me that it would be the game we're about

560
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Speaker 2: to watch. And I'm sorry college football diehards. I am

561
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Speaker 2: sorry to say this. The game we're about to watch,

562
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, would be a better game to watch

563
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Speaker 2: if it was Alabama at Indiana. So if you really

564
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Speaker 2: need to keep the granddaddy of them all, just make it,

565
00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,320
Speaker 2: like just fine, just make it the national championship game.

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Speaker 2: If it's that important to you historically, make it the

567
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Speaker 2: national championship game. But you can't tell me that some

568
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Speaker 2: Alabama fans hanging out rooting against some Indiana fans is

569
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Speaker 2: better than the environment would be if we were at Indiana.

570
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Speaker 2: And you can't tell me the teams wouldn't fight tooth

571
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Speaker 2: and nail even harder for home field if they knew

572
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Speaker 2: that home field wasn't just there for the first round.

573
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Speaker 2: It's there for the entire thing. I want to get

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Speaker 2: Buck's thoughts on it, but I think I think we

575
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Speaker 2: have Martin. I think we have Martin Wise. So Martin,

576
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Speaker 2: if we have you, buddy, let's get the Let's get

577
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Speaker 2: the scoreboard going, my friend, Happy New Year's Fellas, Happy

578
00:26:15,080 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 2: New Year Body, Oregon Advance.

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Speaker 6: It's twenty three to nothing over Texas Tech in the

580
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Speaker 6: Orange Bowl with seven tackles for lost, four sacks, shutting

581
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Speaker 6: down that potent Red Raider offense that we saw all season.

582
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Speaker 6: Miami beat Ohio State and Coddle Bowl twenty four to fourteen.

583
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Speaker 6: Miami and I made the Final four after needing an

584
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Speaker 6: that large bid to make the playoffs. Indiana and Alabama.

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Speaker 6: They'll be kicking off soon here in the rain in Pasadena.

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Speaker 6: Buck good decision not to come to the game because

587
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Speaker 6: it's been miserable out of here. Ole Miss and Georgia

588
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 6: playing in the Sugar Bowl. In the nightcap. In the

589
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Speaker 6: NFL News, Saints Chris Olave is going to be out

590
00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 6: for the last game of the season. He's got blood

591
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 6: clots Jordan love Clear's concussion protocol, but the Packers are

592
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 6: gonna sit him until the playoffs start. The Buccaneers need

593
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Speaker 6: to win against the Panthers and make into the playoffs.

594
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 6: Jamel Dean and Anthony Nelson, cornerback and linebacker, are going

595
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Speaker 6: to be out against the Panthers, and Packer's head coach

596
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,120
Speaker 6: Matt Laflour said tray Von Diggs, former Dallas cornerback, could

597
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Speaker 6: be in the lineup for Green Bay against the Vikings

598
00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,199
Speaker 6: on Sunday. Diggs claimed off waivers after the Vikings released

599
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Speaker 6: him earlier this week. Fellas back to you.

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Speaker 1: This man tried to bully me into going to Pasadena

601
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: and then said, oh, good decision not to come.

602
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 3: Get out of here.

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Speaker 6: I mean, listen, it would have been it's hard to

604
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Speaker 6: lose coming here, but it would have been tragic had

605
00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:32,000
Speaker 6: it been the fourteen days.

606
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Speaker 3: Of the year where it rains and that's the time

607
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Speaker 3: you decided to come, we would have been a real loser.

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Speaker 2: So Mark, because like all Buck would have done for

609
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: the next year, is complained about the time we encouraged

610
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Speaker 2: him to go watch his alma mater playing the Rose Bowl.

611
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: I'm sorry that encourage you go to go watch your

612
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:49,360
Speaker 2: alma mater playing the Rose Bowl.

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Speaker 3: It's such an inconvenience to you.

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Speaker 1: Buck, Do you know that would be the first Indiana

615
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 1: game I had ever attended in person.

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Speaker 3: That's so on brand? Not so, No, it's not on brand.

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Speaker 1: No, it's on brand for them. They're the losingest football

618
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 1: program in the history of college football. Forgive me if

619
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: my college experience was not going to be filled with

620
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: Indiana football losing that way.

621
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Speaker 2: I have been to Bloomington many times. Exactly what were

622
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 2: you doing on Saturday? That was so much more engaging

623
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 2: than watching Indiana football get their ass kick.

624
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 1: The Indiana game and then going home and watching Notre

625
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Dame like every other person in that state.

626
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,880
Speaker 2: Oh my god, this is this is yet yet here

627
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: you sit in an Indiana what do we call that

628
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: a sweater in Indiana hockey?

629
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Speaker 1: It's got a hockey sweater on.

630
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 3: It's very You've ever been to an Indiana hockey match?

631
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 1: No? I have not.

632
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:37,200
Speaker 3: Okay, so you're a fraud.

633
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:39,960
Speaker 2: That's just you're just building a top to bottom of

634
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Speaker 2: your fraud worth thirty four minutes to twelve seconds by

635
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: the way from Indiana Alabama.

636
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: Gouh, I know, it's it's fine. I am going to

637
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: take advantage of the logistical ease of them potentially playing

638
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: in the Peach Bowl in Atlanta, which as I sit

639
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 1: here in Nashville, is about a thirty minute flight as

640
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 1: opposed to Pasadena, and it is indoors, which is much

641
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: more my speed. I'm an indoor cab. I'm not an

642
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: outdoor cat. We're not. We're not if you're going to

643
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: get me to if you're going to convince me to

644
00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 1: go to a football game that I'm not paid to

645
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 1: be at anymore at this point in my career, which

646
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: is a very very you want to talk about things

647
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: that are on brand FITSI it's a really tough sale

648
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: to get me to go to live sporting events where

649
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: I don't get parking and you know, a really great

650
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,400
Speaker 1: view and free food in the press box and all

651
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: those things that I'm accustomed to as an NFL reporter. Like,

652
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,200
Speaker 1: it's a tough sell for me at this point in

653
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: time to actually do it. But if they do make

654
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: it to the Peach Bowl, I will slide on down

655
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 1: to Atlanta and I will watch my alma mater play

656
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Speaker 1: and I will take in an Indiana football game for

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Speaker 1: the first time in my life.

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Speaker 2: I had a friend in Connecticut asked me over the summer,

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Speaker 2: if I wanted to go see a concert of a

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Speaker 2: particular artist touring, and my response was, I don't think

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Speaker 2: I know anybody in that camp to get any any access.

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Speaker 2: And the answer was, well, I wasn't asking for access,

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Speaker 2: like we're buying tickets in there whatever, one hundred and

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Speaker 2: fifty bucks each. And I was like, oh no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 2: no, no no me, no no no, no, no no. So

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Speaker 2: I feel I feel I'll admit my elitism when it

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Speaker 2: comes to certain things. Yeah, there's I don't mind paying

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Speaker 2: for a sporting event, but I'm not paying for a

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Speaker 2: concert Like That's just that is where it is. He's

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Speaker 2: Buck Rising, I'm Jason fitz.

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Speaker 3: It is.

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Speaker 2: It's hard because I can acknowledge, as everybody right now

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Speaker 2: driving around listening to us talk about college football, I

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Speaker 2: can acknowledge that college football isn't a really weird place

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Speaker 2: because change is really weird.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: The thing for me is that when you see change coming,

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Speaker 2: I just want to see everybody involved in it say, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's rip the band aid off. Let's hurt everybody as

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Speaker 2: much as possible, but only hurt him once. Instead of

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Speaker 2: making you know, small changes over and over and over

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Speaker 2: against So to your point, like this year, if you

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Speaker 2: were somebody that's been screaming college football playoffs, cannot expand

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Speaker 2: I just want you to understand this year, you are

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Speaker 2: losing that battle. There's no doubt in my mind now

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Speaker 2: because again, every single team with the first round by

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Speaker 2: has lost so far in the two year history that

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Speaker 2: we've had, nobody's won with the first So that's going

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Speaker 2: to be addressed. And the easiest way to address that

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Speaker 2: is to eliminate first round bys by adding more games,

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Speaker 2: which becomes easier to justify. In a year where people

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Speaker 2: thought Miami might not even make the tournament, Miami doesn't

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Speaker 2: belong and now they have two wins. So all of

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Speaker 2: a sudden, every single person that's been saying, no, there

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Speaker 2: aren't going to be sixteen teams worthy of winning a

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Speaker 2: national championship most years, well most of you didn't believe

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Speaker 2: that Miami deserved to be in this thing at all,

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Speaker 2: and now they just took down clearly the number one

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Speaker 2: team in the country for much of the season.

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Speaker 1: You know, I wonder if it doesn't speak to because

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Speaker 1: Joe Clatt, who's obviously the top analysts college football analyst

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Speaker 1: for Fox and does a podcast and does many you know,

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Speaker 1: offers many Joe Clatt has some of the stronger opinions

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Speaker 1: on just about anything you ask him about on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis, which I do appreciate to some extent until

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Speaker 1: he tries to come after college basketball the way that

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Speaker 1: he did earlier this year and had to.

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Speaker 3: Walk it back.

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Speaker 1: But Clatt in kind of in disparaging March Madness in

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Speaker 1: an appearance I think he was on a Birmingham radio

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Speaker 1: show or live stream show or something to that effect,

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Speaker 1: and he was saying that we don't want Cinderella's in

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Speaker 1: college football. We want the best team to be tested

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Speaker 1: and to earn the national championship, and we want the

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Speaker 1: most fair and competitively balanced field humanly possible as opposed

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Speaker 1: to the chaos that is March Madness in a single eliminade.

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Speaker 1: And this is a single elimination tournament as well, but

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Speaker 1: just the structure of it can lead to a greater

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Speaker 1: percentage chance of upsets than basically any other sport, maybe

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Speaker 1: the hockey playoffs, right, And so I wonder if this

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Speaker 1: isn't kind of speaking to the kind of thing that

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Speaker 1: Clatt was railing against in that fact, which is that

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Speaker 1: college football doesn't want Cinderella's, although I kind of I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of about it. I kind of like the fact

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Speaker 1: that Miami has been doubted the whole way through, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Notre Dame fans were screaming about Miami's presence

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Speaker 1: in the college Football Playoff because the way the committee

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Speaker 1: went about about it, even if it was the correct decision.

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Speaker 1: And so, as to your point, they go out there,

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Speaker 1: they beat A and M at A and M and

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Speaker 1: it's a gross game, but they get it done right.

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Speaker 1: And so they go against Ohio State last night and

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Speaker 1: they I mean, is it unfair to say that Miami

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Speaker 1: dominated the defending champions in Ohio State? I don't think

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Speaker 1: it's unfair.

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Speaker 3: It absolutely did.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a dominant performance by a team

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Speaker 1: that does have talent. And the biggest question was, okay,

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Speaker 1: do I just do I really trust Carson Beck to

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Speaker 1: be the better quarterback in this game? And to his credit,

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Speaker 1: he absolutely was, which gives you the kind of oh, well,

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Speaker 1: that's fun. That's not something that I expected. That adds

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Speaker 1: an interesting and unique wrinkle into this entire process. Why

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Speaker 1: can't college football have cinderellas that are fun and competitive?

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Speaker 1: Highly competitive, like jmu is not your Cinderella here, Miami is.

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Speaker 1: That's an entirely different ballgame when you put it through

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Speaker 1: that context.

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Speaker 2: There is an exact in my mind, NFL comp to

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Speaker 2: what we're seeing. We have recently seen. Recently, we have

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Speaker 2: seen an NFL team do exactly what Miami is doing

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Speaker 2: and we loved every second of it. We'll make that

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Speaker 2: comp I'll tell you what I'm talking about next. He's

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Speaker 2: Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz. We're getting just getting started

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Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Please you're listening.

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Speaker 1: To Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 3: He's Buck Rising. I'm Jason Fitz, Bucking fits, hanging out

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Speaker 3: with you on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Got plenty of thoughts about Miami upsetting Ohio State and

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Speaker 2: what it really means for the future college football.

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Speaker 2: playoff runs should be. And this is where some purists

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Speaker 2: will come in and say, buck, well, college football is

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Speaker 2: no longer even gonna have the best team be the champion,

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Speaker 2: And like, what's the point? I would turn around and

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Speaker 2: ask everybody think back, not that long ago till a

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Speaker 2: football team.

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Speaker 3: Named the New York Giants.

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Speaker 2: They qualified for the playoff as a wildcard, barely snuck in,

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Speaker 2: and then went on an improbable playoff run. A team

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Speaker 2: with a ton of history, a team with Super Bowls

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Speaker 2: already on their resume, goes on an improbable run and

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Speaker 2: it ends in a super Bowl where they take on

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Speaker 2: the undefeated New England Patriots, who had the chance to

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Speaker 2: make NFL history as absolutely, without question, the single greatest

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Speaker 2: team you've ever seen an NFL history, And the Giants won,

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Speaker 2: and everybody freaked out, and everybody dot dot loved it.

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Speaker 3: Not Patriots fans, but everybody else. That's the biggest part

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Speaker 3: of it. Everybody else looked at him, said, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: what an incredible story.

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Speaker 2: To me, that's what people miss when they sit here

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Speaker 2: and say, oh, well, if a team like Miami's a championship,

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Speaker 2: what's the point.

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Speaker 3: In the regular season.

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Speaker 2: We actually like it when teams come from oun't nowhere

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Speaker 2: and go on championship runs.

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Speaker 1: I want to know who these people are that are

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Speaker 1: saying this, because those people do exist, to your point,

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Speaker 1: I just wonder, like, what is the actual percentage of them,

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Speaker 1: because is that not the thing that makes us enjoy sports?

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Speaker 1: Like I don't want to see Tom Brady go undefeated

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Speaker 1: and just win the championship every year as if he's

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Speaker 1: on Madden Rookie Mode or something like that. I want

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Speaker 1: to see him be pushed. I want to see his greatness,

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Speaker 1: you know, no, maybe not questioned in moments, but I

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Speaker 1: just want to see him have something that can get

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Speaker 1: in his way and if he so overcomes it, then great,

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Speaker 1: and you can make Tom Brady. And Tom Brady already

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Speaker 1: is the greatest of all time, but not at that

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Speaker 1: point in time, right. I want to see him have

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Speaker 1: to struggle a little bit. I don't think people actually

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Speaker 1: root for the best team to win because they don't

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Speaker 1: actually like the best team. Don't like the Chiefs, people

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Speaker 1: don't like the Patriots, people don't like the the I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's what's the example of the Golden.

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Speaker 2: State when Golden State had the best NBA regular season

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Speaker 2: in history and they lost a championship and everyone's like,

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Speaker 2: everybody loved that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they're they're you. You don't make these figures likable,

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Speaker 1: So why do you want them to win all the

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Speaker 1: time if you're just gonna complain about it after the fact.

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Speaker 1: I think that And and by the way, the the

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Speaker 1: we used this word earlier, gravitas, the the impact and

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Speaker 1: the gravitas of the Giants winning those two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Maybe Eli Manning doesn't get into the Hall of Fame, right,

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe Eli is just gonna be one of these

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Speaker 1: who's the tackle that's currently been waiting for I mean,

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Speaker 1: basically since the nineties, Willie Anderson, Like maybe remember rude, I.

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Speaker 3: Remember.

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Speaker 1: I just mean that Willy Anderson was obviously a great

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Speaker 1: player at his position, but he's been waiting a long

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Speaker 1: time because there was a bunch of other people who

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Speaker 1: became eligible for the Hall of Fame while he was

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Speaker 1: to get in, and so we get squeezed at this

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Speaker 1: point in time. And you see this every once in

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Speaker 1: a while in the Hall of Fame voting. Maybe ELI

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Speaker 1: doesn't get in, but Eli's best argument for getting in

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Speaker 1: is that he beat Tom Brady to win his two

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Speaker 1: Super Bowls even though he wasn't the best quarterback in

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Speaker 1: his class. Like that carries a tremendous amount of weight.

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Speaker 1: Why would you begrudge an underdog that opportunity.

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Speaker 2: It's weird to me, and it becomes one of the

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Speaker 2: best stories. It becomes the sitting on the porch story.

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Speaker 2: Like I say all the time that one of the

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Speaker 2: things I think are funny about Lebron haters is that

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Speaker 2: Lebron haters right now, we're gonna sit there and tell

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Speaker 2: you Lebron's no MJ. Lebron's no MJ. And in thirty

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Speaker 2: years they'll be sitting there with the grandkids and saying, oh,

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Speaker 2: that kid playing I watched Lebron right Like, there's this

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Speaker 2: inevitable chance for that happens at some point. Well, it's

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Speaker 2: the same when you talk about championship seasons. If Miami

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Speaker 2: is able to somehow win the college football Championship this

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Speaker 2: year on a team that everybody thought shouldn't have even

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Speaker 2: made the playoffs, that people spent weeks saying, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: how could this happen?

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Speaker 3: Right? Like, for Miami to go out and do that.

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Speaker 2: That becomes one of the rates championship stories in college

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Speaker 2: football history. The team that barely snuck into the playoff

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Speaker 2: and then won all the way through. And by the way,

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Speaker 2: not only did they win their way through, they upset

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Speaker 2: everybody at every single level, including the greatest upset in

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Speaker 2: college football playoff history over the number two team but

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Speaker 2: Ohio State that was the defending national champion.

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Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. I mean, this all becomes part of

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Speaker 3: the Disney movie No.

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Speaker 1: And I'm curious to see how people how people are

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Speaker 1: talking about this. I mean, we're obviously talking about this

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Speaker 1: because we're on this week and kind of the context

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Speaker 1: that it's viewed in, because I just I don't understand

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Speaker 1: the counter argument, Like, what is the counter argument that

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Speaker 1: you just want to see dominance and excellence the whole

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Speaker 1: way through? What is even the pushback in this situation.

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Speaker 2: The specialness of the college football world is that the

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Speaker 2: regular season matters so much, and every single game has

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Speaker 2: mattered so much, over and over and over again. And

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Speaker 2: now if all you have to do is barely qualify

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Speaker 2: for the playoffs and you win the championship, what you're

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Speaker 2: really doing telling everybody that those games in the middle

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Speaker 2: of October November don't matter. That's the argument I constantly

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Speaker 2: hear from people. When I have this argument, I just

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Speaker 2: don't answer.

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Speaker 1: True, they all matter, right, If you have these losses,

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Speaker 1: then you're you're dinged accordingly. I mean, this is the

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Speaker 1: entire Notre Dame thing.

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Speaker 2: Well, and last time I checked, no matter how many

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Speaker 2: losses bad NFL teams have, we still flock to watch

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Speaker 2: them even when their season is meaningless. So you know,

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Speaker 2: I think the concept is that the sport dies if

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Speaker 2: the regular season isn't as important.

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Speaker 3: It's just it forgets the growth.

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Speaker 2: For everybody that's now watching a regular season they didn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily think they needed to watch, so all the other

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Speaker 2: fan bases are equally being fed. He's Buck Rising, I'm

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Speaker 2: Jason Fitz. We're just getting started. We'll update you on

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Speaker 2: the Rose Bowl, what's coming next on Fox Sports Radio