1 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. It is with a heavy 2 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,800 Speaker 1: heart that we come to you with reports that the 3 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: body of missing Iowa student Molly Tibbitts has been found 4 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:32,000 Speaker 1: in a local field. This more than one month after 5 00:00:32,120 --> 00:00:36,479 Speaker 1: Molly goes missing. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. 6 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us. You know, the search 7 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 1: to solve unsolved homicides, to find missing people is all consuming, 8 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: but we all know that while we are on that 9 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: frenzied search, trying to put together pieces of evidence, that 10 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 1: there is the possibility that at the end our heart 11 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 1: will be broken. Molly's family and loved ones holding out 12 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: hope till the bitter end to listen or hope is 13 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: she comes home safe. It's what we've been praying for. 14 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: It's what everyone's been praying for. And we uh, yeah, 15 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 1: just that she's out there and she's okay, that she's 16 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: gonna be with us very soon. Molly has the biggest 17 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,280 Speaker 1: heart of anyone we know. She's a friend to everyone 18 00:01:28,959 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 1: who's never shy to go meet someone and become their friend. 19 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 1: To everyone she talked to, she became a friend. She 20 00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: just shed had room in her heart for everyone. We 21 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: you know, we've gone through stages is scared and said, 22 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 1: and now we're just anxious and confused. But the support 23 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: we've gotten from the community, from the from the town 24 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: of Brooklyn and surrounding areas has just been amazing. You know, 25 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: her friends, friends of her friends, her friends, families. It's 26 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: just it's amazing to see how much she meant to 27 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: a lot of people. You were hearing Molly's longtime sweetheart 28 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Dalton Jack, hoping against hope that Molly would come home alive. 29 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: In fact, in the last days within the investigation, sources 30 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 1: have led us to believe that Molly was alive and 31 00:02:18,919 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: being held captive by someone she knew. What connection. We 32 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: didn't know, but now we know. In the last hours, 33 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: the horrible discovery that Molly Tibbitt's dead body has been 34 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 1: found in a local field. This about a month after 35 00:02:37,480 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: she vanishes seemingly in to thin air. The twenty year 36 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 1: old Iowa college student Molly, who disappeared after her usual 37 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: jog around town, was found dead early Tuesday in a 38 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: field not far from where she actually vanished, according to sources. 39 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Those sources say her body has been found in a 40 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: field there in power Sheek County, this is the worst 41 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,920 Speaker 1: possible scenario for her family. Joining me right now is 42 00:03:13,040 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 1: a veteran trial lawyer, Troy Slaton, joining us out of 43 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 1: l A. Troy, this is not the way we wanted 44 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: the case to end, certainly not. And my heart goes 45 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 1: out to the family and friends of of Molly. And 46 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: one thing that we don't know right now is when 47 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: she died. She's been missing for quite a while. And 48 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: one of the things that we're going to want to 49 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: know and investigators are going to want to know, aside 50 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: from securing the scene and trying to figure out who 51 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:49,840 Speaker 1: did this, is how long she's been deceased. Was she 52 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 1: held captive? Um? These are There's a lot to the 53 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: story that still needs to be investigated and determined by 54 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: the authority. Oh yes, And Troy Slayton A a reward 55 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: fund of about four hundred thousand dollars was a mass 56 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: to find Molly alive, and now her family is saying 57 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: police are saying that that money is going to be 58 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: used to catch her killer. I mean out to uh 59 00:04:21,000 --> 00:04:27,159 Speaker 1: experienced crime scene investigator, forensics expert joining us Karen Smith, 60 00:04:27,320 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 1: I mean Karen Smith. She did not die of natural causes, Okay, 61 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: I don't need a press conference to tell me that no, 62 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,720 Speaker 1: we don't um, but Troy is absolutely correct. The time 63 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: of death is going to be critical because that can 64 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: lead back to people who may have been with her 65 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 1: at the time. We're going to be dealing with a 66 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: lot of entomological samples or insects. Blow flies go through 67 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: certain cycles, and with those collections, along with some of 68 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: the other um insects at the site, can help investigators 69 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: and techno should come up with an assumed or approximate 70 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: time of death and how long she's been there based 71 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: upon that information, also her clothing, um, the level of decomposition. 72 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: All of these things are going to come into play 73 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,719 Speaker 1: and be extraordinarily important as we look for answers in 74 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 1: this tragic, tragic finding. Guys, we are analyzing what we 75 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: know now. We know that reports that Molly's body has 76 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: been found. Molly said to be a sophomore at University 77 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: Iowa studying psychology, last seen alive the night of July eighteen, 78 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: running in the small town of Brooklyn, Iowa. Uh two 79 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: thousand people that she would run all around town. We 80 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: are also learning that the body was found near one 81 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: of the points of interest five points of interest cops 82 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: had honed in on early in the investigation. For those 83 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: of you just joining us, the body of Molly Tibbitts 84 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: has been sound. The Iowa students that the Iowa student 85 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: that hundreds of people had joined together trying to find 86 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: is dead. You know, they said in the last weeks 87 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:15,279 Speaker 1: that they were looking at five specific areas, five specific 88 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: areas in the search for the missing Iowa student Molly Tibbitts. Now, 89 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:23,640 Speaker 1: we know that one of those areas obviously was her home, 90 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: the home where she was living. It belonged to her boyfriend, 91 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 1: Dalton Jack and his brother. Those two were absolutely told 92 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,000 Speaker 1: to us out of town at the time she goes missing. 93 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: Another area we know that they were looking at was 94 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 1: a pig farm, a pig farm not too too far away. Also, 95 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: she was running. That brings up an entirely open, open 96 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 1: possibility of where her body would have been Vincent Hill. 97 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: She was running from one end of Brooklyn, Iowa to 98 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 1: the next. It's a small town, so anywhere along that 99 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: route was the possibility. Yeah, anywhere in n scene. I 100 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: think that's why investigators were able to narrow down to 101 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: just five places, especially this pig farm. And especially her 102 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: house we just heard in that pressor the timeline and 103 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: how that was important while the search was going on. 104 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 1: It's really important now to determine when Molly was actually killed, 105 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 1: if she was being held captive, did that tip this 106 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: person off? Did they kill her then and then dump 107 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 1: her body? So the decomposition, all of that will come 108 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: into play here to determine when she actually died and 109 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: to get that evidence to find out who actually did this. 110 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: And how will they be able to do that to you, 111 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: Kieren Smith forensics expert, how will they be able to 112 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: determine the timeline of her death? Well, besides the entomological 113 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: samples I discussed earlier, they're going to look at the 114 00:07:46,680 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: level of decomposition. Uh, look at the weather conditions. How 115 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: was the body found? Was it in a shallow grave, 116 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 1: was it on the surface, was it covered with sticks? 117 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: Was it still closed? You know, all of these things 118 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: come into play and it makes it very very difficult 119 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: to estimate a time of death. But they can get 120 00:08:05,360 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: a window which will work when it comes to looking back. 121 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: The investigators are going to be combing through that entire 122 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: area with a fine tooth comb, inch by inch, not 123 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 1: only looking at the remains, but looking for any evidence 124 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: in the vicinity. You know, we we find discarded receipts, 125 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: bottle caps, cans, cigarette butts and things like that that 126 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 1: can provide additional leads. And I'm hoping that that's what 127 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: they're doing right now, is going through that with a 128 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: fine tooth comb. Every day, I feel Molly's presence with me, Um. 129 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: You know, sometimes I just feel her sitting on my shoulder. 130 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: And Molly was an incredibly strong young woman. And I 131 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 1: don't know that I have the strengthen me, but Molly's 132 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: lending me her strength every day, every night. And yes, 133 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: I have my moments of complete mountdowns, but it is 134 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: Um through this strength that is somehow and I don't 135 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: know how being bestowed upon me that I am able 136 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: to get through every morning, every noon, every night. That 137 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: is Molly Tibbitts mother speaking about Molly's somehow lending her 138 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 1: strength during the search for Molly. As you know by 139 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: now for those of you just joining us, the search 140 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: has ended for Molly Tibbitts and Iowa co Ed just 141 00:09:30,440 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: twenty years old, her body found in the last hours. 142 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 1: Imagine this scene the medical Examiner's vehicle arriving on a 143 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 1: rural road south of Brooklyn. Department Transportation truck blocking the 144 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:50,680 Speaker 1: gravel road itself of Interstate A D, but law enforcement 145 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: have been swarming the area since early early this morning. 146 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: Oppressor goes down with the anouncement regarding Molly's body. Officials 147 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,560 Speaker 1: so far have not confirming more regarding the investigation, but 148 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: we do know this. Joining me right now, renowned medical 149 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: examiner and author Dr Michelle Duprey. Dr Duprey, thank you 150 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: for joining us. We know that there had been five 151 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: locations of interest named. They were particularly interested in these 152 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:33,080 Speaker 1: five spots. This is a very very densely wooded area, 153 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: a rural area. What does that tell you and what 154 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: should the medical examiner detectives be doing now on the scene, Nancy, 155 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,960 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. Um. Yes, the fact that this 156 00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: was very densely wooded and hidden tells me that the 157 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: person did not want the body to be found quickly. Um. 158 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 1: The medical examiner will start to be looking at the scenes, 159 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: will be looking for signs of Um, was this crime 160 00:10:57,480 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: committed here, or was this person done too or was 161 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 1: the person murdered someplace else? All of those things they'll 162 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: be looking for right now. Well, when you recover a body. 163 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 1: And it's very difficult for me to say those words 164 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: in connection with Molly Tibbitts, because we all feel that 165 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: we've gotten to know her and know her family during 166 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 1: the search for Molly. When you are recovering a body, 167 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 1: let's say, from a shallow grave in a wooded area, 168 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: in a rural area, everything has to be preserved. For instance, 169 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 1: were there truck marks leading to the body, tire marks. 170 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: If so, those have to have a cast made of 171 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 1: them so you can later try to match up those 172 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:46,560 Speaker 1: tire marks with the perpetrators vehicle. When you remove the 173 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:50,439 Speaker 1: body from a grave, a shallow grave, you don't take 174 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,480 Speaker 1: just the body. You take the dirt around the body 175 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: because there could be fibers from let's just say, carpet 176 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: or a blood ankant on that dirt around the body, 177 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: if not on the body itself. You look to see 178 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: as she clothed, is she unclothed, because if at any 179 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,560 Speaker 1: point she were ever unclothed, the killer may have left 180 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:19,560 Speaker 1: touch DNA on her clothing when she was reclothed. If 181 00:12:19,559 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: she were wrapped into blanket, surely there's going to be 182 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: carpet fibers or touch DNA on that blanket, under her nails, 183 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:33,040 Speaker 1: her fingernails, Is there evidence of a fight? Did she 184 00:12:33,160 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: scratch the perpetrator? Once that evidence is lost, it is 185 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: lost forever. So the recovery of Molly and her remains 186 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: is so crucial. Uh, swabbings regarding her genitalia, her mouth 187 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: have to be taken. Is there invaluable d NA there 188 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: to determine what she assaulted and who did it? Around 189 00:13:01,120 --> 00:13:04,440 Speaker 1: the scene? As Karen Smith mentioned earlier, is there a 190 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: cigarette with d n A on it? Is there a 191 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: food wrapper with d N A on it? Is there 192 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,440 Speaker 1: a soda can? Is there anything that could be traced 193 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:18,600 Speaker 1: back to Molly's killer? And believe you me, there is 194 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: a killer. She didn't just jog into this area and 195 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: drop dead. Uh. Someone murdered this beautiful young girl, and 196 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: I want that person behind bars. Nancy, You're so right, 197 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: and we we only have one chance to get this right. 198 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 1: Once we disturbed that scene, than evidence is disturbed forever. 199 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 1: So everything that we do from the from the point 200 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,839 Speaker 1: of discovering the body, to recovering that body, to getting 201 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 1: that body back to the morgue is very important and 202 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: every single thing must be preserved. Joining me right now, 203 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: journalist on the story from the very very beginning, Alexis 204 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 1: to rest Chuck joining me from Radar online dot com. Alexis, 205 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: this is not the answer we wanted. What do you know? So, 206 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: there was a body that was found and Molly's dad 207 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: has confirmed that it is her. It's about twenty miles 208 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: south of Brooklyn. It is a very very rural area. 209 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: It's about three miles away from the man that pig 210 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: farmer who has been questioned so many times. He has 211 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: told us it is not on his property, but it 212 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: is very near there and there are there were about 213 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 1: twenty police cars and in fact, the state medical Examiner 214 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: arrived and he is there to collect all the evidence 215 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: so that they everybody is there to this. The scene 216 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: is secure. Nobody can get on the road unless you 217 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: are law enforcement with me now, Alexis to rest Chuck 218 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: writer online dot com. You're right, Alexis. Throughout the afternoon, 219 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: the medical examiner has been there with a fleet of 220 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: medical examiner investigators. The FBI took over this investigation um 221 00:14:56,960 --> 00:15:00,560 Speaker 1: a few days into it. All A thor parties are 222 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: there and have been there throughout the day. You know 223 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: what I always say, there's no coincidence in criminal law, 224 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: but we know from what alexis to rest. Chuck has reported, 225 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Molly's father is confirming that this is the body of 226 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: Molly Tibbitts. What do we know about the father stating 227 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: this alexis so the really sad part about this story 228 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,520 Speaker 1: is is the dad the law enforcement had told him 229 00:15:31,560 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: that they were working the case and that perhaps the 230 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: family needed a little semblance of normality. So they said 231 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: that if he was to go home to California where 232 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: he lives in northern California, it would be okay and 233 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: they would contact him. He has been in Brooklyn for 234 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: over thirty days, every single day physically out searching for 235 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: his daughter, trying to find her. He flew home on 236 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: the same day that they found her body, so he 237 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: had to turn around and come right back. And so 238 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: he has come firm that that it is hard that 239 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 1: the law enforcement has they've told him that it is 240 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: his daughter. That's right. The father of Molly uh confirming 241 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: it is Molly's body. Long before this afternoon's press conference 242 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: with police, Alexa's I want to talk to you and 243 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: joining me right now. Also is Lee Egan, reporter with 244 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: Crime online dot com. When she goes jogging, she jogs 245 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: from one end of town to the next. Would she 246 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 1: have jogged along this route, She would not have jogged 247 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: that far down. No, because it's around twenty miles from 248 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: where Cio. We are learning in the last hours that 249 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:42,800 Speaker 1: Molly's body was found in a densely wooded area. It 250 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: was confirmed before the police press conference by not only 251 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: Greg Wiley, the vice president of Crime Staffers in Central Iowa, 252 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: but also by Molly's own father. This is not the 253 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: outcome that we wanted. Joining me, Alexis to rest Chuck 254 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Radar Online dot com, Alexis, I want to hear again 255 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,440 Speaker 1: what you can tell me about the location where her 256 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: body was found, and then I want to hear from 257 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Dr Michelle Dupree how they are going to determine the 258 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: cause of death. You start Alexis place. So this is 259 00:17:16,760 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: about twenty miles south. It's on a rural road, and 260 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: it's a very wooded area. And in fact, what an 261 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 1: onlooker has told us at Radar is that this is 262 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: not accessible by a regular vehicle. You could not drive 263 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: your car to the area where Molly's body has been found. 264 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: So so this is not she was hit when she 265 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,199 Speaker 1: was jogging on the side of the road. This is 266 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: not something that that was that. There's no way this 267 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: was a hit and run where she was jogging. Somebody 268 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: hit her. She fell, rolled down into a ditch and 269 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: stay there and has just been found. No, you can't 270 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: drive to it. It's way off the road in a dense, 271 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: dense woods. What does that say to you. It says 272 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: a whole lot, Mancy. It says that basically, this person 273 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 1: is either gonna need a four wheel drive or they're 274 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: gonna be very strong. I mean, if if they're either 275 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: forcing her back there or they're carrying her her deceased 276 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: body back there, they have to be very strong and 277 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: capable of doing that. Um. They have to know their 278 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,640 Speaker 1: way in and they have to know their way out. 279 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: They have to know where they're going in directionality. It's 280 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: not like we have street signs in the middle of 281 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: woods telling you which way to go in and which 282 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: way to leave. So you're right, this person whoever did 283 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:29,359 Speaker 1: this is very familiar with the area. And you know, 284 00:18:29,400 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: the crime scene itself is going to tell a story. 285 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: If there was a shallow grave that person came with tools, 286 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 1: if she was just covered with some brush that's different. 287 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: So all of these factors and the teamwork that these 288 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: investigators are going to have to use is going to 289 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 1: be critical to find the answers in this investigation. And 290 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: to you Dr du pray, how will they determine cause 291 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: of death? What do you look for with different types 292 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: of CO D S F Nancy. That's gonna depend a 293 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: lot on the condition of the body. UM. We certainly 294 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 1: any injuries, that's the first clue. What kind of injuries 295 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,240 Speaker 1: are they? Is it blunt trauma? Is a sharp purce injury? 296 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: Is that a gunshot wound? UM? Most of those things 297 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: we can tell pretty much regardless of the state of 298 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: the body. UM. If it is something else, perhaps like 299 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 1: strangulation or something like that, that may be more difficult. 300 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,359 Speaker 1: But we are often able to tell the cause of 301 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: death just based on examining the body. That's why we 302 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 1: do in autopsy. The autopsy will be performed with many 303 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: many jurisdiction is now involved in this investigation. We don't 304 00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:35,680 Speaker 1: know if the autopsy will be started and completed at 305 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:39,480 Speaker 1: the local morgue or if other experts will wait in. 306 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: Right now, this is what we know. The body of 307 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:48,879 Speaker 1: the Iowa student, Molly Tibbitts has been found, how would 308 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: we determine to you, Karen Smith, if this were the primary, secondary, 309 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: even tertiary crime scene, that's going to be difficult to 310 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: figure out. We're dealing with an over a month long 311 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 1: time span, so the medical examiner will probably be the 312 00:20:03,400 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: best to determine obviously the cause of death, but also 313 00:20:06,760 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: you know, are we going to to find and I 314 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: hate to go into these details, but is there a 315 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: great amount of blood at the crime scene? Is there not? 316 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: Um If we haven't found the primary crime scene, in 317 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: other words, where this all happened, that's going to start 318 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 1: back at square one again. We have to recover her body, 319 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:24,680 Speaker 1: recover the evidence at the scene, and then go back 320 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: to find out where this happened, if that's possible. At 321 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: this point, this is the primary crime scene. This is 322 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: where they have to focus. They have to get everything 323 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 1: out of there and then work backwards from there to 324 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: this and Hill cop turned private eye also on the 325 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,880 Speaker 1: case from the get go. Wait in Vincent, Yeah, Nancy, 326 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: this is going to be just the processing of that 327 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 1: crime scene is going to be so meticulous because you 328 00:20:48,119 --> 00:20:51,040 Speaker 1: don't want to miss anything. You touched on fibers you 329 00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 1: touched on all of this evidence touch DNA, so I 330 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: suspect investigators will be out there well into the night, 331 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: even once Molly's bodies move back to the Medical Examiner's office. 332 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: I think they're going to be out there well into 333 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,119 Speaker 1: the night next day and maybe a few days after that, 334 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 1: processing all this evidence. So then they can get a 335 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: starting point of where Molly was either killed when she 336 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: killed there, killed somewhere else. It's going to be a 337 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: very long process. Nancy. Authorities investigating the disappearance of the 338 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: twenty year old girl, says the body was found in 339 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: rural County. Up until now, they have been extremely tight lipped. Listen, 340 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: good afternoon. My name is Rick Ron. I'm a special 341 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: Age in charge with the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation. 342 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: I want to thank each and every one of you 343 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: for coming here today and we wanted to pass along 344 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:44,720 Speaker 1: some information to you as well as the community and 345 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: the nation as a whole. Behind me, I have represented 346 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: this from the Iowa Department of Public Safety, the Federal 347 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: Bureau of Investigation, and the Powaschee County Sheriff's Office. I'd 348 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: like to do first is read a brief statement to you, 349 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: and then to that I'll be happy to take as 350 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: many questions as I can. A first degree murder charge 351 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: was filed today in connection with the disappearance of Molly Tibbots, 352 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 1: who was last seen jogging in Brooklyn, Iowa, on July eighteenth, 353 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen. A complaint in affidavit names Christian Bahina Rivera, 354 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: aged twenty four, who resides in rural Powischee County, and 355 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: he has been charged with murder in the first degree. 356 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 1: Dozens of law enforcement officials from local, state, and federal 357 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 1: agencies were involved in the investigation after the disappearance of 358 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:39,240 Speaker 1: Molly Tibbots. A body was discovered early this morning in 359 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 1: a farm field southeast of Brooklyn, Iowa. The identity has 360 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 1: not been confirmed, however, we believe it to be the 361 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: body of Molly Tipots. A complaint in affidavit, which will 362 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: be provided to you, will provide the details and of 363 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: valigations against Mr. Rivera. Charges were filed in the Powaschee 364 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 1: County District Court. The case will be prosecuted by the 365 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 1: Iowa Attorney General General's Area of Prosecution Division, and first 366 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:11,280 Speaker 1: degree murder carries a penalty of life without the possibility 367 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 1: of parole. We have confirmed with Homeland Security investigations that 368 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,120 Speaker 1: he is an illegal alien and we believe he has 369 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: been in this area now for four to seven years. 370 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: How did you, how did you contact with you? How 371 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: did you know what your reading? Well, during the investigation, 372 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: we reached out to the public, as you well know, 373 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 1: and during our neighborhood canvas, we came across an individual 374 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: that had security cameras. We took those cameras. He's kind 375 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 1: enough to give us the footage from it, and through 376 00:23:43,359 --> 00:23:47,119 Speaker 1: that we're able to identify a vehicle that we believe 377 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: belonged to Mr Rivera. It was a black malb you 378 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: and from that we're able to track his pattern and 379 00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: the routes in which he took. We're also able to 380 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 1: find Molly running on this video, and we're able to 381 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 1: determine that he was one of the last ones to 382 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: have seen Molly running based on the video. Again that 383 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: we were able to seize from the general public. I'm sorry, 384 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: well again, we were able to pull him in. During 385 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: the investigation, we conducted a lengthy interview with Mr. Rivera, 386 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: and during that interview, he tells us that he sees 387 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 1: Molly running and was able to come upon her approach her, 388 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,440 Speaker 1: and while he was interfacing with her, he actually tells 389 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:39,360 Speaker 1: us that he ran alongside of her or behind her. 390 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: And then at one point he tells us that Molly 391 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: grabbed ahold of her phone and said, you need to 392 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: leave me alone. I'm going to call the police, and 393 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: then she took off running. He in turn chased her down, 394 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: and then he tells us that at some point in 395 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 1: time he blacks out, and then he comes to near 396 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: an intersection which we believe he then place Molly. Where 397 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: did on three set in Brooklyn? Outside of Brooklyn, actually 398 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 1: in the rural county just outside of Brooklyn, Iowa decide 399 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 1: over here that general area has been searched by investigators 400 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 1: the last several weeks. What led you specifically to this 401 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: area to day this morning on three hundred naty fifth 402 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: Street or the location of mall because there are two 403 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:29,959 Speaker 1: different locations made. Actually, after we got done interviewing Mr Rivera, 404 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 1: he led us to her location and then what location 405 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,959 Speaker 1: was near four hundred and sixtieth Street or avenue in 406 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 1: rural Palche County. Then that house was killed. We aren't 407 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,119 Speaker 1: able to release all the information on the investigation, and 408 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,320 Speaker 1: so I hope you understand I can't give everything out 409 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,280 Speaker 1: and that's one of the things that we're not able 410 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: to provide at this time. Again, I'm not going to 411 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: be able to provide certain information. That is one of 412 00:25:54,680 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 1: which I'm not able to provide. Well, I'm sure you've 413 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: driven around the area and it's it's a rural county 414 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: and there are a lot of fields, a lot of woods, 415 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 1: a lot of ditches. We have certainly had extensive searches 416 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: throughout the county. We just didn't have success locating her. 417 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: In this particular case. She was found in a corn 418 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: field and there were cornstalks placed over the top of her, 419 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: and so we just weren't able to locate her at 420 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:34,640 Speaker 1: that particular part of the investigation. Yes, back in Well, 421 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: we got the video a week or two ago and 422 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: we spent hours going through the video trying to first 423 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: of all, locate Molly on it. Secondly see if there's 424 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: anything suspicious following Molly, which is what we did and 425 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:51,639 Speaker 1: so um we we again spent hours going through that 426 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: officers did a great job coming up with the timeline. 427 00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:56,239 Speaker 1: I mentioned to you last week that we felt very 428 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,399 Speaker 1: good about our timeline. That just confirmed our timeline that 429 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 1: we had and then again we were able to determine 430 00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: what vehicle was following Molly. We identified that vehicle belonging 431 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 1: to Mr Rivera, and then we located him, interviewed him, 432 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: and subsequently he led us to her location. Talking to 433 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,879 Speaker 1: him said have you been talking to this aspect before 434 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:25,240 Speaker 1: we first approached Mr Rivera yesterday? Can you put a No, 435 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:27,919 Speaker 1: he's very complaint. He was willing to talk with us, 436 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,240 Speaker 1: and so there was no as you said, fight, there's 437 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: no fight or any struggle of any kind. Again, I 438 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: won't be able to release some of that information at 439 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:47,159 Speaker 1: this time. Yes, we believe he is. Yes, his name again, 440 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: his name will be listed on the complaint NAPID David, 441 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: along with the photographs, so we can provide that for 442 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 1: you later. Yes, I can't really speak to that at 443 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 1: this point. As I mentioned to you before, we're doing 444 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: us some more interviews. We're trying to get as much 445 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: background on Mr Rivera as possible, and so I don't 446 00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: have all the answers for you on that, but I 447 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,280 Speaker 1: know that he was working, and beyond that, I'm not 448 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: sure what he was doing coming and going again. There's 449 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 1: certain certain parts of the investigation. I will not be 450 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 1: able to release him. That happens to be one of 451 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,720 Speaker 1: m I won't be able to speak on You have 452 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: a question here, what about the reward money? I'm sorry, 453 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: what down with that reward money? That word? So I 454 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: did my question. That's not for me to say. I 455 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: don't I'm don't play a role in that. So I'm 456 00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: not sure what will happen with him with the money 457 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:37,400 Speaker 1: or the reward. He said this for the first time. 458 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: Talking previously, I can tell you that he told that 459 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 1: tells us that he had seen her before. But beyond that, 460 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,000 Speaker 1: I won't be able to say anymore about his uh. 461 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 1: Interactions with Mrs Tippos family. Like you guys thinking to 462 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:07,200 Speaker 1: day to day out, you these are hard. I mean, 463 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: we get to know the family, we get to know 464 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,480 Speaker 1: Molly Um. We just spoke with the family and I 465 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: told him that they raised a great daughter. I mean, 466 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: she was a phenomenal individual, and so we're sadden for 467 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: the family. It is difficult on the investigators, however, that's 468 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 1: what we're paid to do, and we tried to do 469 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 1: as best as we possibly can. We're just happy that 470 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: we're able to locate him, get him charged, and then 471 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: hopefully come out with a successful conclusion, that being a 472 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:45,200 Speaker 1: conviction and invest as we understand it based on our investigation, 473 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: he followed her around, circled around a couple of times, 474 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: located her, and then began to interface with her at 475 00:29:52,000 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 1: some point in time. I'm sorry. Well, they're appreciative that 476 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 1: we're able to find her, but obviously it's difficult. It's 477 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: hard on them and they're struggling like any family would. 478 00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 1: But they have a great support system and we will 479 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: they have. Part of that support system is the community, 480 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: and I will have to say that the community here 481 00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: has been phenomenal. They have been of great assistance to 482 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 1: the investigation and to the family, and so they will 483 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: get through it. I'm sure it's gonna be hard, but 484 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: we will be there for him. Well, the location where 485 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: she was found is on four and we believe the 486 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: running route in which she was running was on street. Yes, again, 487 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: there's certain things I won't be able to release on 488 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: the investigation. Yes, well, we know that she is abducted 489 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: on and beyond that, we wouldn't be able to provide 490 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:53,600 Speaker 1: that information. I'm surprisingly any trying to I can't I 491 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: can't speak I mean I I don't know what he 492 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 1: was thinking and what his mind process was, so I 493 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: can't really speak to that. I mean, um, yeah, I 494 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:06,360 Speaker 1: have an answer that differently about what. So you're asking 495 00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: me about the motive, Well, again, I can't really speak 496 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: about the motive and you, as you said, I can 497 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,719 Speaker 1: just tell you that it seemed that he followed her 498 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: and seemed to be drawn to her on that particular day, 499 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: and for whatever reason, he chose to abduct her. So 500 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 1: that's I can't speak other than that. I can't speak 501 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: to that as well because we don't want to be 502 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,240 Speaker 1: able to release that information at this time. I can 503 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: tell you that an autopsy was going to be performed 504 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: that will assist us. That autopsy is going to take 505 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: place tomorrow up in Anchony at the State Medical Examiner's office, 506 00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: and so we will await those results. Sometimes that takes 507 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: a while, and that will aid us as well in 508 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: the investigation. I can't speak to that as well. Again, 509 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: that goes with the State Medical Examiners examination of Molly. 510 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: The breaking and public without that the video was critical, 511 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: I'll put it that way again. We have talked to 512 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: hundreds of people over four thousand leads came in on 513 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: this investigation, and so uh it was extremely helpful. Let's 514 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: put that way. If mr are very similar, who lived 515 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: well known the community, the last people going NY kind 516 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: of because I understand he pretty much kept himself, that 517 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: would be a question to be answered by Homeland Security investigation. 518 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: Dot I change you can tell us about prevarians growing 519 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,320 Speaker 1: the community here, didn't work here, I could been here 520 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,400 Speaker 1: for a long time. He he was employed here and again, 521 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: as I previously mentioned, he was here we believe anywhere 522 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,480 Speaker 1: between four to seven years. But beyond that, I don't 523 00:32:53,520 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: have any additional information. Yes, sir, did you have a question? Well, 524 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: the investigation was ongoing, like I said, and we will 525 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: continue to look at a number of different individuals and 526 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: people continue to collect facts. And at this point, though, 527 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: I can tell you he's the only one that has 528 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: been charged with first scream murder. So I know he 529 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,400 Speaker 1: said that you can't say anything. He said he putt 530 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,120 Speaker 1: at least seven years. Did you say anything about his 531 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,239 Speaker 1: employment history? I would choose not to do that at 532 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 1: this point now here at the Palache County jail, Now, sir, 533 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 1: he might be placed the bonding Araby pro fire. Again, 534 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 1: those are certain facts that I wouldn't be able to 535 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 1: release at this time. Um, as I previously mentioned, we 536 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: continue to run out leads, we continue to gather facts, 537 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 1: we continue to analyze evidence, and we'll be ailable to 538 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: have some of those questions for you as things going. 539 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 1: I got about one more question for you. I'm sorry 540 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 1: all top two is scheduled for tomorrow. However, it takes 541 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: a while to get the results, and so that might 542 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: take anywhere up to to six weeks. We just can't 543 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: predict that. But um, the autopsy will be tomorrow. We 544 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: talked so much that helpful at all. I can tell 545 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: you that we, as I have said previously, that we 546 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 1: examined her digital footprint and certainly that played a role 547 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: in our investigation. One last question, that's a invit well 548 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 1: certainly helped to run with others, not to run alone. 549 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 1: But I mean, this is a small community. Everybody knew everybody, 550 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: and certainly she has been running for months, years and 551 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: not had any problem that we're aware of. And so uh, 552 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 1: this is sadly a tragic event and we hope that 553 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: it wouldn't occur any time in the near future. Thank 554 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: you and Nancy with the end of the news conference, 555 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,920 Speaker 1: investigators have given us a copy of the arrest affidavit 556 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: that's the sworn document that they used to take Rivera 557 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: into custody and now charging him with the murder of 558 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,040 Speaker 1: Molly Tibbitts, and to review some of this that's in here. 559 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: One of the more interesting things is he acknowledges he 560 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: had mits that he saw her jogging in Brooklyn, pulled 561 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: his Chevrolet Malibu to the side of the road and 562 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: then ran behind her and apparently he frightened her. Rivera 563 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 1: says that Molly told him, I'm going to call the police, 564 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: and she grabbed her phone. That's when Rivera says a 565 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 1: panic attack was triggered. He says he panicked, got mad, 566 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: and then quote blocked his memory. He told investigators that 567 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 1: happens to him when he gets upset. He just doesn't 568 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 1: remember anything after that. He says. He then when he 569 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: came to finally, he saw that there was a an 570 00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: ear plug some headphones in his lap, and that's when 571 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: he realized he put her body in his trunk. He 572 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,799 Speaker 1: opened the trunk and saw that she was there with 573 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: blood on the side of her head, and that he 574 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,560 Speaker 1: dragged her out of his car, out of the trunk 575 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 1: into a corn field about twenty yards and left her 576 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: covered under some corn leaves, face up. He said. He 577 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 1: then drove back to Brooklyn. But it was apparently yesterday 578 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,759 Speaker 1: on the twenty one that Rivera Lad law enforcement to 579 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: that location where they located the remains of Molly Tibbitts. 580 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: We learn today the search is over for Molly. Her 581 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: body has been found in a densely wooded area. Joining 582 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:32,480 Speaker 1: me Karen Smith, forensics expert, Joe Scott, Morgan death investigator, 583 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: cop turned p I, Vincent Hill, Troy Slayton, veteran defense attorney, 584 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:45,720 Speaker 1: Dr Michelle Duprie medical examiner, author, forensics expert. Also joining 585 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: me Alexis to res Check, Writer online dot com and 586 00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: Lee Egan Crime online dot com reporters. Prayers being lifted 587 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: up now for Molly tibbots family. Molly rest in peace. 588 00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: Every day I've feel Molly's presence with me, um, you know, 589 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: sometimes I just feel her sitting on my shoulder. And 590 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:12,919 Speaker 1: Molly was an incredibly strong young woman. And I don't 591 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: know that I have the strengthen me, but Molly's lending 592 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 1: me her strength every day, every night and yes, I 593 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:26,320 Speaker 1: have my moments of complete mountdowns. But it is through 594 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:30,000 Speaker 1: this strength that is, somehow and I don't know how, 595 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 1: being bestowed upon me that I am able to get 596 00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:40,359 Speaker 1: through every morning, every noon, every night. Nancy Story signing off, 597 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:41,840 Speaker 1: goodbye friend,