WEBVTT - #627 Packers Unscripted: Home cooking

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<v Speaker 1>Hi, everybody. Welcome to another edition of Packers Unscripted from

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<v Speaker 1>Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spoffer, joined by my

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<v Speaker 1>trusted colleague wearing his brand new glasses, West Hodkowitz. We're

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<v Speaker 1>coming to you, hear from our studios a lambo Field, West.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time to talk Packers Seahawks. Here. The Seattle Seahawks

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<v Speaker 1>will be coming to lambeau Field for a Sunday three

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<v Speaker 1>pm kick off. And this is a Seattle team that

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<v Speaker 1>is three and five, but they're getting their quarterback back

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<v Speaker 1>Russell Wilson back from the surgically repaired finger that cost

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<v Speaker 1>him three games. And for as much as even with

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson in the lineup, the Seahawks were up and down

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<v Speaker 1>early in the season, kind of riding a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a roller coaster. Russell Wilson brings a one point three

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<v Speaker 1>passer rating UH, ten touchdowns, only one interception on the season.

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<v Speaker 1>He was off to a heck of a heck of

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<v Speaker 1>a start statistically, and that's certainly something he's looking to

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<v Speaker 1>continue against a pretty good Packers defense. Yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so funny listen to Vante Adams discuss it, because

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<v Speaker 1>he's like, this really almost feels like a division game.

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<v Speaker 1>How much they've played. I believe in DeVante's career, this

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<v Speaker 1>is the eighth time. Now he's going to be playing

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<v Speaker 1>against the Russell A quarterback Seahawks team. And as we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen through all these matchups, and there's been so many

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<v Speaker 1>chapters in this this rivalry. Now, uh, it's always going

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<v Speaker 1>to be competitive, It's always gonna be probably down to

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<v Speaker 1>the wire. And in a lot of times too, it

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to how are the Packles Packers able to

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<v Speaker 1>contain Russell Wilson. Historically speaking, the games in which they've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to really put a hat on him, they've

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<v Speaker 1>played really well. The results have been in their favor.

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<v Speaker 1>And but when he gets going, man, when he gets moving,

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<v Speaker 1>when he gets creating plays out of the pocket, he

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<v Speaker 1>extends things. That's where he can really hurt you. And

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<v Speaker 1>as we're learning about the Seattle offense and this era, now,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's DK Metcalf, whether you know it's it's Tyler Lockett,

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<v Speaker 1>they have weapons that can really hurt you. Yeah, that

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<v Speaker 1>combination of Lockett Metcalf is a really interesting one because

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you don't often see a a one to

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<v Speaker 1>punch at receiver if you will, where the two guys

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<v Speaker 1>are such different types of players in terms in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the body types and the routes they run and

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<v Speaker 1>what those what the offenses asked them to do. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's what presents such a big challenge in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of defending Russell Wilson and his passing game with

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<v Speaker 1>those two guys on the other side of it. With

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<v Speaker 1>regard to trying to contain Wilson. Now this is the

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<v Speaker 1>statistic with Wilson or Gino Smith, but the Shawks have

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<v Speaker 1>allowed twenty six sacks season in eight games. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that puts them on pace for allowing fifty plus this season. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously about half of those were Wilson, half of those

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<v Speaker 1>were were Gino Smith. But um yeah, you still even

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<v Speaker 1>with those sack numbers, though, I think you have to

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<v Speaker 1>be careful about how you press or Russell Wilson. This

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<v Speaker 1>is what is so mind boggling about the season Seattle's

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<v Speaker 1>had is that Geno Smith played well during that absence.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is they've had a really difficult schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>When you look at the opponents they've played, I think

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the Vikings are the one team they lost to

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<v Speaker 1>that actually has a losing record right now. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a competitive type of schedule in Smith, to

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<v Speaker 1>his credit, a lot of people, including myself, big time

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<v Speaker 1>doubters when he took over, played really well. He had

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<v Speaker 1>over a hundred passer rating. The thing that is really

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<v Speaker 1>stands out to me the most about Seattle though, is

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<v Speaker 1>the years change, but a lot of times the construction

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<v Speaker 1>of the offense is very similar. It really They've had

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<v Speaker 1>issues on the offensive line for years now. That hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really changed. They've had inconsistency in the backfield now for

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<v Speaker 1>years now. That hasn't really changed. But at the same time,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have somebody like Wilson that can basically create uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it still makes them an incredibly dangerous team. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think defensively they've started to find themselves a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 1>Matt l Lor said it. It It was to your question, Mike,

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<v Speaker 1>they are expecting a playoff caliber team to step into

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<v Speaker 1>lambeau Field on Sunday, and anything short of that, I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers will accept it, but that isn't what they're anticipating.

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<v Speaker 1>They think that this is gonna be a matchup that's

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<v Speaker 1>really gonna come down to the wire because at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning of this season. Back in September, this was the

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<v Speaker 1>gauntlet we were talking about. Seattle was a big reason

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<v Speaker 1>for why we thought November was gonna be as difficult

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<v Speaker 1>as it's going to be. Yeah. Absolutely, when you look

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<v Speaker 1>at it from Seattle's perspective, three and five, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>where they want to be after eight games. They can't

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<v Speaker 1>really afford too many more losses. But from their point

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<v Speaker 1>of view, they're like, hey, we have an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>play the Packers. We they they still have I believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's two games left with Arizona. They haven't played the

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinals left they yet. They have one game left against

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<v Speaker 1>the Rams. So even though they're three and five, they're

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<v Speaker 1>going to have some opportunities to make some noise here,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, playing against some of the top teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFC. As we're in that that that midpoint of

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<v Speaker 1>the season, I wanted to get back first, second to

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<v Speaker 1>that receiver tandem, uh lockt in Metcalf and I know

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<v Speaker 1>there we're not exactly sure what's happening with Eric Stokes.

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<v Speaker 1>He missed the last game for the Packers, um limited

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<v Speaker 1>on the injury report. As far as uh Wednesday's practice

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<v Speaker 1>for green Bay was concerned. So we'll see how that

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<v Speaker 1>plays out. But how do you think the Packers go

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<v Speaker 1>about defending Metcalf Unlockett? They are they just gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>the corners play their sides and you just and you

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<v Speaker 1>just match up that way. The reason I ask is

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<v Speaker 1>because we talked about this a lot, and we we

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<v Speaker 1>always it always seems very rare that the Packers try

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<v Speaker 1>to just match up, you know, a certain dB. But

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<v Speaker 1>then we saw Eric Stokes against the Cincinnati Bengals pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much was kind of matched up against Jamaar Chase for

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<v Speaker 1>the vast majority of that game. So it just makes

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<v Speaker 1>me wonder. But again Stokes that his status is uncertain.

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<v Speaker 1>He saw a lot of Terry McLaurin as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if it was down for down, snap for snap,

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<v Speaker 1>but he played him and kind of traveled with him

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit on the field too. And that game

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<v Speaker 1>it's Washington, so Stokes that possibilities there. It really might

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<v Speaker 1>get We don't know what the knee is, right, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it was one of the more unique things I think

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<v Speaker 1>I can remember, other than maybe an illness. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Blog I think dropped out with the flu, right

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<v Speaker 1>and then that's where Jared Valdeer had to start a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of years ago, like ninety minutes before the game.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe it was the flu. If not, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>Brian from his reporting, but I don't remember an issue

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<v Speaker 1>where a guy actually like a cornerback guy had a

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<v Speaker 1>a you know, a fitness position, a finesse position where

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<v Speaker 1>he has to go out of the lineup because of

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<v Speaker 1>a pregame injury. So time will tell. I mean, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he was limited. We'll see what the injury report says

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<v Speaker 1>later this week. To your question, though, I think the

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<v Speaker 1>one big thing about this, uh, this defense that Joe

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<v Speaker 1>Barry employs is he trust players to play their positions.

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<v Speaker 1>And there was a line, it was a very basic

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<v Speaker 1>line that Deveandre Campbell said, but it really hit home

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<v Speaker 1>with me in that he trust linebackers to be linebackers,

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<v Speaker 1>he trust defensive backs to be defensive backs. And if

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<v Speaker 1>your assignment is to be the left perimeter cornerback, like

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<v Speaker 1>we're sold this was last week, He's comfortable just letting

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<v Speaker 1>that guy be that guy. So I don't think you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna see any overwhelming adjustments. I think the bigger thing

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<v Speaker 1>they have to figure out is from a safety perspective,

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<v Speaker 1>how they go about trying to put an umbrella over

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<v Speaker 1>DK Metcalf with also being cognizant of what Lockett can

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<v Speaker 1>do both underneath and down the field. Those two guys

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<v Speaker 1>are really elite weapons and to have, you know, two

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<v Speaker 1>receivers that have such a juxtaposition in terms of their

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<v Speaker 1>styles in terms of what makes them great. Davanta Adams

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<v Speaker 1>even talked about it and was asked about, hey, can

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<v Speaker 1>you steal anything from DK Metcalf's game? You really can't

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<v Speaker 1>because the guy's six ft five and as he said,

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<v Speaker 1>twitter ninety pounds. He's a very unique player to his

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<v Speaker 1>own skill set. So that was a really good, very

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<v Speaker 1>solid But that being said, you look at photos of him,

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<v Speaker 1>you absolutely believe it. So I'll tell you this, man,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a challenge, But I think really it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be more on that back end and how they

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<v Speaker 1>want to blank at these guys and how they want

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<v Speaker 1>to cloud them as opposed to what cornerback stokes of

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<v Speaker 1>elbow or not. Is gonna be the one drawing those assignments. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's interesting with with with that pair of

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<v Speaker 1>receivers because they are so different physically, yet both of

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<v Speaker 1>them can beat you deep, and both of them can

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<v Speaker 1>take a short pass and get a lot of yards

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<v Speaker 1>after the catch, and and you just don't you just

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<v Speaker 1>don't see that. You just don't see that wide array

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<v Speaker 1>of of abilities from two guys that that look physically

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<v Speaker 1>so different on the field. On the Packer side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>West David baktr, the five time All Pro left tackle,

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<v Speaker 1>was activated from the physically unable to perform list his

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<v Speaker 1>h his three week three week roster exemption. Excuse me,

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<v Speaker 1>from when he started practicing UM to where you know

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<v Speaker 1>he did not have to count on the fifty three

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<v Speaker 1>man roster, that three week exemption expired, so the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>had to make a decision activate him or not. So

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<v Speaker 1>he is on the fifty three man roster. There hasn't

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<v Speaker 1>been anything definitively said as to whether he is going

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<v Speaker 1>to start at left tackle on Sunday, but we heard

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<v Speaker 1>from Elton Jenkins and uh and as I wrote on

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<v Speaker 1>our website, you can check out the story on Packers

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<v Speaker 1>dot com. Elton Jenkins is ready to move wherever the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers need him to move right and and Uh even

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<v Speaker 1>joked that he thought maybe he was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>the backup quarterback last week until Blake Bortles was brought in.

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<v Speaker 1>But I also like how he said Blake Bortles, not

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<v Speaker 1>Blake or Bortles. He's like, and then we signed Blake Bortles.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like that made me chuckle. Yeah. But Elton is

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<v Speaker 1>ready to Elton's ready to line up wherever the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>need him when bok tr is ready to go, whether

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<v Speaker 1>that is this week or down the line. I will

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<v Speaker 1>say this as it relates to the Packers, as it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to guys coming off of significant knee injuries or

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<v Speaker 1>any injury. You know we saw with the collar bones

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<v Speaker 1>with Aaron Rodgers. The day that that player runs out

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<v Speaker 1>of the tunnel at lambau Field or it's maybe potentially

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<v Speaker 1>a road game, I have full confidence that that guy

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<v Speaker 1>is ready. I think that has been proven with Pat mackenzie,

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<v Speaker 1>with this train ning staff here, they are not going

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<v Speaker 1>to put a guy out there who isn't ready to play.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's not about David bok Terry. I'm sure if

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<v Speaker 1>David bok Terry had his druthers about this whole situation,

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<v Speaker 1>he probably would have played in the last preseason game.

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<v Speaker 1>But the fact of the matter is they needed to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to give him this window once he started

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<v Speaker 1>practicing again, to simulate these practices, to get him ready

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<v Speaker 1>for playing seventy offensive snaps. That's all a part of

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<v Speaker 1>the process, just as much as rebuilding up the strength

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<v Speaker 1>and that knee was. But I'll say this, Mike, to

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<v Speaker 1>have a guy like Elton Jenkins step up and then

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<v Speaker 1>also an honorable mention to yosh Naim and being able

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<v Speaker 1>to to eat up three games as well. The Packers

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<v Speaker 1>went seven and two missing their five time all Pro

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<v Speaker 1>left tackle. That's not to say they didn't miss him.

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<v Speaker 1>They still missed him mightily because I think this offensive

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<v Speaker 1>line is better when you have Jenkins and bok Try

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<v Speaker 1>both there. But to be able to stem this tide,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's something regardless of what the final record

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<v Speaker 1>is of the season, regardless of whether or not the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers Holy stuff at Lombardi Trophy, Elton Jenkins in the

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<v Speaker 1>Yoshiman to be really proud that they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>get them this far because it shouldn't have looked this easy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>teams lose, not even guys of the caliber of David

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<v Speaker 1>bok tr and it can be an absolute disaster. Packers

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<v Speaker 1>were able to keep this thing going. And if you

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<v Speaker 1>get boxed, you got back MVS. Last week, you got

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<v Speaker 1>back Kevin King, you get box tr e back Jayres

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<v Speaker 1>being around practice again, doesn't have a sling one hanging

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<v Speaker 1>around just Sari. Darius Smith is back in Green Bay.

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<v Speaker 1>Easy for me to say, every single you know guy

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<v Speaker 1>that they add back into the fold of this caliber,

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to make this team better for the long run. Yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I hear you. And and obviously, well we will see

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<v Speaker 1>what the Packers decided to do when bok tr does

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<v Speaker 1>come back. With regard Dalton Jenkins, the first decision is

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<v Speaker 1>do you put Elton Jenkins at left guard, which is

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<v Speaker 1>his Pro Bowl position, even though maybe he was headed

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<v Speaker 1>for a Pro Bowl at left tackle I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>Or because Josh Myers is still out and Jenkins was

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<v Speaker 1>your guy who filled in at center last year when

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<v Speaker 1>Corey Lindsley went down for three games late in the season,

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<v Speaker 1>do you put Elton Jenkins at center? And then obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you're sorting out amongst Lucas, Patrick Royce, Newman, John Runyon,

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<v Speaker 1>those other interior guys who will be your best five

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<v Speaker 1>um in the starting lineup, so um. The versatility that

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<v Speaker 1>Elton Jenkins has gives gives the Packers a um almost

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<v Speaker 1>an unmatched luxury in in this game when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to injuries on the offensive line. And obviously other guys

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<v Speaker 1>are cross trained at at different positions as well. But

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<v Speaker 1>as Adam Stanovich said last week, all you have to

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<v Speaker 1>do is give Elton Jenkins a couple of days of

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<v Speaker 1>practice at any spot on the offensive line and you

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<v Speaker 1>can put him out there in a game and you

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<v Speaker 1>know he's gonna do just fine. And and and you

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<v Speaker 1>don't you don't hear that about about guys in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of just being able to train and grasp everything so

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<v Speaker 1>quickly and understand the techniques and then execute those techniques

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<v Speaker 1>as well as you know the playbook based on your

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<v Speaker 1>responsibility of guard versus tackle and all of that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. And so we'll see. We don't really know

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<v Speaker 1>what the Packers are going to do, but the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they have so many options at their disposal is

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<v Speaker 1>a credit Elton Jenkins. Yeah, and and even this year

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't I think fully encapsulate what he brings. It was

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<v Speaker 1>last year that I think my eyes really opened up

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<v Speaker 1>to it, because that was a position where Lucas Patrick

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<v Speaker 1>had to start it right guard. They had already lost

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<v Speaker 1>Lane Taylor for the year, so when when Corey Linsley

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<v Speaker 1>got hurt, they didn't really have a backup center so

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<v Speaker 1>to speak. It needed to be Elton Jenkins and the

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<v Speaker 1>guy slid in there. And then three starts played at

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<v Speaker 1>a Pro Bowl level at that position too. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you don't you hope at some point you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>see a relatively healthy line that Josh Myers can get

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<v Speaker 1>back at some point this season and the Packers start

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<v Speaker 1>to look more like themselves again. But to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to do what they've done in spite of all these injuries,

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<v Speaker 1>it has been probably one of the top five storylines

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<v Speaker 1>I'd say as far as this Packers season has been concerned. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>to the other games around the NFL in Week ten,

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<v Speaker 1>The keys to victory here for the Packers. When you

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<v Speaker 1>look at this game, Packers are starting a stretch here

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<v Speaker 1>of five out of seven. Five of their next seven

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<v Speaker 1>games are at lambeau Field, after the stretch of playing

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<v Speaker 1>four out of five on the road. What do the

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<v Speaker 1>Packers have to do to get back into the wind

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<v Speaker 1>column after taking a loss last week? Goes back to

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<v Speaker 1>what your key to victory was last week. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they have to protect the football, and I need to

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<v Speaker 1>think they need to take the football away. Seattle is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the more unique teams I think I've ever

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<v Speaker 1>seen this particular team this year. They don't give the

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<v Speaker 1>ball away, but they also haven't really taken it away

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<v Speaker 1>this season. They only have three interceptions among thirty four

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<v Speaker 1>defensive passes defense, and I believe they all belong to

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<v Speaker 1>Quadri Diggs. Yeah, they do. Diggs. Diggs has all their interceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>and again it's a good defense. But their inability to

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<v Speaker 1>take the ball away I think has been one of

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<v Speaker 1>the reasons why you've seen all these yards being put

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<v Speaker 1>up against them this year. Um and offensively though they

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<v Speaker 1>only have what four giveaways. I mean, it's been pretty remarkable,

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<v Speaker 1>even with Gino Smith taking over the fact that they've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to protect the football as well as they have.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that's gonna be a catalyst in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought last week, you know, and I think it

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<v Speaker 1>proved out that if the Packers protect the football, if

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<v Speaker 1>they don't lose the turnover battle two to nothing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the points that were generated off of that for

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City, I think that's a different football game. So,

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<v Speaker 1>especially if Aaron Rodgers is back in the fold. The

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<v Speaker 1>big day on that is obviously going to be Saturday.

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<v Speaker 1>But if Aaron Rodgers is back and the Packers can

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<v Speaker 1>get back into the groove that they were in before

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<v Speaker 1>this whole, you know, Davante Adams is gone and then

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<v Speaker 1>Rogers has gone. If they're able to look like the

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<v Speaker 1>offense they did in Week seven, I think they were

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<v Speaker 1>very easily able to win this game and continue on

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<v Speaker 1>building on what they did in the first half of

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<v Speaker 1>the season. Yeah, and I think offensively, and I say this,

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<v Speaker 1>whether Jordan's Love is the quarterback or whether Aaron Rodgers

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<v Speaker 1>does come back and get cleared on Saturday and is

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<v Speaker 1>is under center on Sunday. You got to get back

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<v Speaker 1>to running the football. We've we've been saying this since

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<v Speaker 1>since Matt Lafleur got here in twenty nineteen, and we've

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<v Speaker 1>seen the implementation of this offense. The Packers have won

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of games. You know, when Aaron Rodgers has just

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<v Speaker 1>done his thing right, like we've seen that. But when

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<v Speaker 1>this Packers offense has been at its best is when

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<v Speaker 1>the running game is the foundation and it sets up

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<v Speaker 1>the play action and it just opens up so many

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<v Speaker 1>more things for the quarterback. And especially when that quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>is Aaron Rodgers with his mastery of the offense and

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<v Speaker 1>what is going on. And we heard we've heard Matt

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<v Speaker 1>Lafleur many times when he when he's critical of himself

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<v Speaker 1>about his game plan, his approach, and he and he says, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got away from the run too early. When we've

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<v Speaker 1>heard him say that, he's usually made a recommitment to

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<v Speaker 1>it again right after that. I think the Packers are

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<v Speaker 1>going to come out on Sunday with with Aaron Jones

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<v Speaker 1>and a J. Dillon, whatever rotation whoever is going to

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<v Speaker 1>be first second, whatever. I think the Packers are going

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<v Speaker 1>to show that commitment to the run game on Sunday,

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<v Speaker 1>and I appreciate that they probably weren't going to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to run the ball thirty five times against Kansas

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<v Speaker 1>City with Kansas City playing as many guys in the

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<v Speaker 1>box as they were with their single high which you

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<v Speaker 1>which you can do when it's a guy's first start

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. But the encouraging

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<v Speaker 1>thing about what they did accomplished was they still move

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<v Speaker 1>the ball really well against a loaded box. Yeah, they did,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's a credit to both Aaron Jones and a J. Dillon.

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<v Speaker 1>They both where he had some nice runs in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>But I go back to and Mike, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>say it's Detroit. Correct me if I'm wrong, But that

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<v Speaker 1>was the game where I believe A J. Dillon just

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<v Speaker 1>took over in the fourth quarter, like the fourth quarter

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<v Speaker 1>or the four minute offense, just kept pounding the ball,

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<v Speaker 1>pounding the ball, pounding the ball. This kid can take it.

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<v Speaker 1>He did it at Boston College. I just I want

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<v Speaker 1>to see more of those opportunities for I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think A J. Dillan's earned them to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>just to continually get those reps and then being able

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<v Speaker 1>to be really pragmatic about how you utilize Aaron Jones.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see more of the pony packages. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to see the offense run more through those guys,

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<v Speaker 1>because I think one of the issues they've had in

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<v Speaker 1>this first half of the season is trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the play action going because we haven't seen it in

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<v Speaker 1>the same form that we did last year. If that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and I still think there's a lot there for this

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<v Speaker 1>Packers offense to accomplish this season, I really believe that

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<v Speaker 1>that's gonna be what's gonna put them over the top,

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<v Speaker 1>because right now the defense has to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>still weather these injuries and keep building. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>the best Packers defense I've covered in my time here.

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<v Speaker 1>It just is. And it's not I'm not saying it's

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<v Speaker 1>the most talented. I'm not saying that they just but

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<v Speaker 1>the way that they're playing is they're playing dominant football,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it's right there for Green Bay right

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<v Speaker 1>now from a championship perspective. If they can get some

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<v Speaker 1>of these things squared away with the offense and get

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<v Speaker 1>this thing rolling, and obviously the special team's considerations as well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's all there, yeah, and you're and you're playing

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<v Speaker 1>at home here for for this next next stretch of

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<v Speaker 1>games to uh, to keep yourself where you are in

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<v Speaker 1>in those NFC rankings and with regard to the NFC

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<v Speaker 1>North as far as the division is concerned, here week ten,

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears on a by Minnesota Vikings with another tough,

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<v Speaker 1>tough They're they're on the road. They're they're on the

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<v Speaker 1>road out at Los Angeles to play the Chargers. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Packers, with that three and a half game lead

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<v Speaker 1>in the NFC North, as far as division hopes are concerned,

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<v Speaker 1>Minnesota has to feel like now that it's it's back

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<v Speaker 1>is against the wall. They they the Vikings have got

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<v Speaker 1>to start stacking some victories to be able to put

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<v Speaker 1>any pressure on the Packers. Obviously they're playing the Packers

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<v Speaker 1>um very soon coming up here. But but this is

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<v Speaker 1>a this is a tough road trip for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't mean to interrupt you, but I forgot that

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago was on a bye this week. You and I

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<v Speaker 1>always discussed the whole thing about like, oh man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>go that last game before the bye week. From an

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<v Speaker 1>insider inbox perspective, you always want to, you know, either

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<v Speaker 1>a VIC three or a nice performance man of life.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears get to stew over that one for Mondays.

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<v Speaker 1>That Monday night loss, that Monday night loss in Pittsburgh

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<v Speaker 1>is the one they have to sit on for two

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<v Speaker 1>weeks now. There's not enough breath mints in the world

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<v Speaker 1>to get the face out of that one out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But Minnesota perspective, this is a really difficult matchup for them,

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<v Speaker 1>and and certainly going into l A is not like

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of other teams. I don't think it's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be a noise barrier issue there for them, But they

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<v Speaker 1>do need to find a way to win some of

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<v Speaker 1>these games because they've played a number of teams tough

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<v Speaker 1>this year, but they just haven't been able to close

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<v Speaker 1>this thing out. Credit to them, it's a difficult schedule.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been a really tough year for them as well

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<v Speaker 1>with how things have lined up. But at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>if they're going to make a run at Green Bay here,

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<v Speaker 1>they have to pick up some ws and from Detroit,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, having to go to Pittsburgh. Now, um, they

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<v Speaker 1>got a week to kind of regroup a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>You think I heard a little. Bertie told me that

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<v Speaker 1>Tim Boyle was maybe potentially designated to return, Hey, Lions,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounded like they opened the they opened the practice

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<v Speaker 1>window as far as bringing him off of injured ors

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<v Speaker 1>or so. Yes, we will see. We will see what

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<v Speaker 1>happens with the Laser show number twelve, number one in

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<v Speaker 1>your hearts. Yeah, just saying, well, elsewhere in the NFC,

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<v Speaker 1>just to give folks a sense of what else is

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<v Speaker 1>going on amongst those other contenders. Atlanta is playing at Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>Arizona is hosting Carolina, and Carolina going through all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of quarterback stuff and everything right now. Tampa Bay is

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<v Speaker 1>at Washington, both of those teams coming off of by

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<v Speaker 1>that's actually a playoff rematch, playoff rematch game from the

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<v Speaker 1>from the first round last year. And then the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>are at San Francisco on Monday Night Football. I have

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<v Speaker 1>to say I was I was surprised and somewhat disappointed

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<v Speaker 1>in a sense that San Francisco didn't give the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>more of a run for their money when the Cardinals

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<v Speaker 1>were missing all the players that they were last week.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm not really sure what's going on with the

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<v Speaker 1>forty Niners, but uh, they will be hosting the Rams

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<v Speaker 1>on Monday and at football, So your thoughts on any

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<v Speaker 1>of those games you're talking about Matt Lafleur in the

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<v Speaker 1>run game, Kyle Shanahan getting away from the run in

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco has been one of the more surprising things. Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously I know what happened with most are but I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how many times did they carry the ball last week?

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<v Speaker 1>Like and I mean you look at you look at

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<v Speaker 1>what they did in nineteen when they did go to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. They it was it was a stable

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<v Speaker 1>of backfield and it didn't it didn't matter, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>matter who he was handing the ball off. So it

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<v Speaker 1>is it is curious what's been going on out there

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<v Speaker 1>with the Shanahan's offense. It doesn't get it easier for them.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, man, Atlanta is a team we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta stop sleeping on. Uh. They're making a run there.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know, Arthur Smith, I believe in them.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's usializing his weapons. Matt Ryan NFC Offensive

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<v Speaker 1>Player of the Week. I believe Matt Ryan. When this

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<v Speaker 1>thing is all said and downe with Matt Ryan, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna he's gonna have one of those careers where it's

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<v Speaker 1>like man, when he was great, he was great, and

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<v Speaker 1>then when it wasn't working out, it wasn't working out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the contrast between winning and losing seasons on

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<v Speaker 1>the end of his resume is gonna be something interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think Kyle Pitts has given them some more energy. Certainly,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they have a new vision with that offense.

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<v Speaker 1>So Dallas coming off their own loss that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big game. That's one that I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 1>say that when that was a tough loss for Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>They fell behind thirty to nothing at home to the

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<v Speaker 1>Denver Broncos before they even got on the board and

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<v Speaker 1>made the score respectable at the end, but they got

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<v Speaker 1>they got it handed to him at home. Now they're

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<v Speaker 1>at home again against against the Falcons team that is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of on the rise, and Mike Rabel I think

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<v Speaker 1>I need to give him some credit because I was

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<v Speaker 1>asked an insider in box about my favorite teams or

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<v Speaker 1>what I think of the top four teams in the

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<v Speaker 1>a f C. And I didn't put Tennessee in that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation because I felt like without Derrick Henry, they aren't

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<v Speaker 1>a top four team last week they looked like it,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're gonna be taken out the New Orleans

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<v Speaker 1>Saints hosting them. I think these are the moments where

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<v Speaker 1>head coaches really, you know, prove their weight, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and in terms of what they can accomplish. And seven

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<v Speaker 1>and two of the Titans are what they are, and

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<v Speaker 1>even if they don't have Henry, you know, they're still

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<v Speaker 1>trucking along. Yeah. Absolutely, Well with that, we'll call it

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<v Speaker 1>a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscripted'd be sure

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<v Speaker 1>to follow all of our coverage of the team and

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