1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:02,560 Speaker 1: What's going on? Everybody. Welcome into a Monday edition of 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 1: Texans All Access from Monday Texans Radio Studio. I'm your host, 3 00:00:07,480 --> 00:00:10,920 Speaker 1: John Harris. Football in a sideline reporter are trying to 4 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 1: avoid the lighting and thunder going on. My goodness, I 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: just hit him Boomer right around me and not Boomer sooner. 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 1: It's tough stuff in Oklahoma right now. But that all said, 7 00:00:22,440 --> 00:00:25,880 Speaker 1: welcome you in, and we're gonna dive right into our 8 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: conversation with our pal Andre. Where Andre, anything different about 9 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: this one that stands out to you as far as 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: the way things played out down the stretching against the 11 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: New York Giants at the Metal answer, now, you know, 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 1: other than the fact that we didn't turn the Giants 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,480 Speaker 1: over and as much as you you know you would 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: want and we turned it over. Is kind of that 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 1: the formula for yesterday that, along with not really winning 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: in the trenches, just dominated at times at the line 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: of scrimmage, especially on the offensive line. Dexter Lawrence, I 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,520 Speaker 1: was telling Johnny on the plane last night, I don't 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: know that I've ever seen an individual performance like that 20 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: that just stood out from a defensive lineman ever. And 21 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 1: he played like a grown man plan with boys yesterday. Yeah, 22 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: I'm in some sense he is. I mean, I don't 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:25,039 Speaker 1: know if Kenyans is Kenny even only have to drink 24 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: at this point. Is he twenty one year? I think 25 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: he is. But either way, point being dextra Lawrence would 26 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: have done that to anybody yesterday. That guy is at 27 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: an all pro pro Bowl level. I'm gonna throw this 28 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: out there to both of you once you to think 29 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:41,919 Speaker 1: about this. It's a little either or, Okay, better Texans Boomerang, 30 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: Quentin Demps or Jordan Aikins. Dre make your pick. That's 31 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: as good. Yeah, you know how partial. You know how 32 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: partial I am the job. That's why I asked the questions. 33 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:00,480 Speaker 1: I set you up for this. Yeah, yeah I would. 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: I would. I would still stay on my my normal 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: trajectory here and train and stay with Jordan Nakins. I 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: just think he's a hell of a weapon that is 37 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: excellent in the passing game. And the only reason, the 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: only way I can think that he doesn't get the 39 00:02:17,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: normal touches and he's not a starter and a pro bowler, 40 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: and all that goes into it is that the blockings 41 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: got to get better. That's the only thing because the 42 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 1: receiving and running routes and catching passes and what he 43 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: does after that is amazing to me. And I've said 44 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: it on the air several times that I think he 45 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: garners seven to ten targets a game. That's the kind 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 1: of talent I think Jordan Nakins is and I feel 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: the same way about Nico Collin. Seven to ten targets 48 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 1: a game is what they need to really intrench themselves 49 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: in a ball game and show you, show you what 50 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 1: they they're capable of doing. Yeah, Demps came back and 51 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: at seven picks, but Aikins has eight game to go 52 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: to add to his stat total whatever else he's able 53 00:03:03,160 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 1: to produce this year, So I think it's an incomplete 54 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,360 Speaker 1: so far. Johnny plays out Drey's point about targets. Nico 55 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:13,839 Speaker 1: at ten yesterday caught five. Aikin's target three times, caught 56 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: three times for seventy two yards, clearly have forty six shorter. Yeah, 57 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,720 Speaker 1: he probably deserves more, and we'll see how they handle it. 58 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 1: Because Drey, they're running the ball well, we know that 59 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: they threw the ball better in the second half. I 60 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: know some of the yards were down the stretch when 61 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: they were trying to play that get a quick score 62 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 1: and on side kick game. However they could do it. 63 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: Maybe the Giants changed their defense. But let's talk about 64 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: this passing attack in general. What needs to get better 65 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,120 Speaker 1: in your mind as you continue to look at Mills 66 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 1: with eight games to go here in the season. I 67 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: think freedom needs to just that that word, because when 68 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: what you just mentioned was when they threw the football 69 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: the best and played the best at the end of 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: the game. So I think that's I mean, Johnny may 71 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 1: agree with me in this stance. I think I've heard 72 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: him say that. But you know, when he is running 73 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: the two minute offense and he's just at the line 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: of scrimmage running plays, he looks the part. It's when 75 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: he's got to think and it's methodical, and that's tough 76 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: for everybody. Sometimes you just need a little bit of 77 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: freedom to just go to the line run a play 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:20,440 Speaker 1: as well. I think being a little more aggressive in 79 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: the passing game where you're not waiting on a defense 80 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,599 Speaker 1: to set this set. Sometimes you just gotta have plays 81 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:27,679 Speaker 1: where you just go get to the line of scrimmage, 82 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: snap the football and run them and you don't have 83 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: to set this That me things are just kind of 84 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 1: taken care of within the system. And I think when 85 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 1: Davis Mills hands that kind of freedom in the two 86 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: minute offense, that's when he's at his best. Dred defensively, 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: Christian Harris made some plays and it felt like, and 88 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 1: I talked to love you about this, there were fits 89 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,760 Speaker 1: and starts, there were some stuff, some really good stuffs, 90 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: and then Barkley would reel off a chunk run. Did 91 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:58,480 Speaker 1: you come out of that game yesterday feeling better, worse 92 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: or just about the same with the run defense in 93 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,559 Speaker 1: the front seven going against Barkley, he had one hundred 94 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: and fifty two yards. I think that was a numb 95 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: one hundred fifty two yards, but it took him thirty 96 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:10,480 Speaker 1: five carries to get there. So your thoughts about the 97 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: run defense yesterday? Yeah, I thought it was about the same. Johnny, 98 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: to be quite honest, I mean, just gases the yards 99 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 1: at times and then they would stop him. When you know, 100 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: the Giants knew they were gonna run on first or 101 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: second down, or the Texas knew the Giants were gonna 102 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 1: run on those early down and they were there, But 103 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: when when they really wanted to feature se Quan and 104 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: as we mentioned it may be something that they ran 105 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:35,360 Speaker 1: a lot of week side runs week side, being away 106 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: from the tight end or the strength of the formation, 107 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: and I got to go back and look at some 108 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: film to see if that's where other teams are doing 109 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: their damage as well, because I couldn't believe the amount 110 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: of runs that were week side. But to your question, 111 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: I thought it was about the same when you give 112 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: up one hundred and fifty two yards to a guy 113 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: and the other back I can't remember his name escaped 114 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: me right now, Brita at times, you know, broke off 115 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: a couple of runs here and there, So you're giving 116 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,119 Speaker 1: up one hundred eight one hundred eighty yards a game. 117 00:06:09,200 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 1: That's a lot of yards in the NFL, and they 118 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: were right on par would I would imagine with with 119 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:18,799 Speaker 1: that number yesterday, Dre the Colts beat the Raiders yesterday 120 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,559 Speaker 1: in Vegas. They got Jonathan Taylor back to Jonathan Taylor 121 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: form with one hundred forty seven yards on twenty two carries. 122 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: Matt Ryan started obviously a huge story that Jeff Saturday 123 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: is the interim coach, but do you feel like this 124 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 1: is about Ryan and Taylor coming back as much as anything? 125 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: Although you have to credit Saturday for some leadership skills 126 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: throughout the course of the week in a hectic week 127 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: for this franchise. Yeah, he had to really kind of 128 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: grab the reins and go as as the days or 129 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: the hours we're counting down to game time. And that's 130 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: a credit to Jeff Saturday because I didn't I didn't 131 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: think that they could pull it off with a guy 132 00:06:57,120 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: coming in with zero NFL head coaching experience quarterback that 133 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 1: you were going back to a guy that was calling 134 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,279 Speaker 1: plays yesterday, never called that had never called them before. 135 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it was a mess, and they found a 136 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: way to win a game, and so much so that 137 00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: they had Derek Carr emotional at the postgame pressor so 138 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: it h I mean you're thinking, if there's a chance 139 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: to win a football game, that was it yesterday for 140 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: the Raiders and they couldn't do it. But tip your 141 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: hat to the Colts. They found a way. Maybe being 142 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: non conventional is the way to go. You know, where 143 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: you give someone leadership based or a job based on 144 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: leadership or what you think that how that you think 145 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 1: they can lead a program. So who knows. I mean, 146 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 1: if it works out for the Colts, kudos for them, 147 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 1: and they've got a coach for a very long time 148 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: in Jeff Satterday. Okay, I'm gonna ask you guys, not 149 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: so much a loaded question, but make you think a 150 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: little bit. So I want your answers from both of you. Guys. 151 00:07:52,240 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: Day will start with you. The team, the two teams 152 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: with the best record in the NFL right now, right now, 153 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 1: right now, the Vikings quarterback Kirk Cousins. The Eagles undefeated, 154 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: still playing tonight against the Commanders. Yeah, led by quarterback 155 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, when was a fourth rounder, was a second rounder. 156 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: We know the story is pretty much for both and 157 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: how they've gotten there. But they're leading to two top 158 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: records in the NFL right now. Is there anything to 159 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: take from that? Is there any lesson to be learned 160 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,119 Speaker 1: from that at all? That Kirk Cousins and Jalen Hurts, 161 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 1: not Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen, not Matt Stafford, Tom Brady. 162 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 1: It's two guys that weren't even first round picks with 163 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Vikings and Jalen Hurts and Kirk Cousins, Dre, 164 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 1: do you find that interesting or is that just they've 165 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: got a lot of talent around him. They're just making 166 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: the plays or doing the right things. What do you 167 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 1: think about Cousins and Hurts being the two quarterbacks that 168 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: lead to two best records in the NFL. Well, I 169 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 1: don't know that there's a whole lot of difference in talent. 170 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: When you know, in terms of their drafts and where 171 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: they were drafted out of out of college, I mean 172 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 1: that big of a difference. Uh. I guess the point 173 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to make here is that when you're 174 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: when you've played a lot like they did Jalen and 175 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: Alabama and Kirkett I think it was Michigan State. You 176 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: start a lot of games, you played a lot of games, 177 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: you had success in college. It's not a whole lot 178 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: of difference in you and the next guy, or the 179 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: guy that's drafted a few few rounds ahead of you, 180 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: and then maybe a guy that's actually started less games. 181 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 1: He's going into a pressure situation. You're going into a 182 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: situation when you're drafted a little bit later where you 183 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,360 Speaker 1: get to develop. You get to sit and watch and 184 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,560 Speaker 1: wait and uh. In Jalen's case, he got to play 185 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,599 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier, but he also had played a 186 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 1: lot of games against the high level of competition at Alabama, 187 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: So I don't I don't see it as um that 188 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: they weren't first round picks. And then that's the only 189 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: common thread in this is that they got a chance. 190 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: And there's no right or wrong because Mahomes played, he 191 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: actually waited a year and then played. H Brady had 192 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 1: to wait some time. And in place of that theme 193 00:10:01,679 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: for me is you know, a year or two of 194 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: development and getting to know the system. It also helps 195 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: when you're coming back to the same system in current 196 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: years for a young player to get that level of 197 00:10:14,720 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: foundation in which to build from and where you understand 198 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 1: the speed of the game and all that goes on 199 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:23,360 Speaker 1: to being an NFL quarterback. If you don't get that 200 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: time necessary, it's it's tough. And a lot of guys 201 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: go to a lot of places where quite honestly, you're 202 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: drafted that high because they weren't that good, and some 203 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: organizations never seem to get it right. But that's the 204 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: one thing I would turn to is that it's the 205 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: development part of being able to sit and watch and 206 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: then step in knowing exactly what to do or pretty 207 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: much what to do. Yeah, both guys had different situations, 208 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 1: but I think it's worth bringing up when you have 209 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks who aren't first round draft choices, high draft choices, 210 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: guys who have a chance to show their stuff. I 211 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: mean Cousins with RG three in front of him, there 212 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,840 Speaker 1: was a lot of obviously there was a lot placed 213 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: on RG three. He was the franchise quarterback, so no 214 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: pressure virtually on Cousins in that situation, but he rose 215 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: up pretty nicely. They'll be the first to tell you 216 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: that organization that nothing is done yet, but they're off 217 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: to a good start. They did lose to the Eagles, 218 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: by the way, Andre The Eagles host the Commanders tonight, 219 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: Sunday's opponent for Houston Texans on Salute to Service Day. 220 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: So what do you think Commanders? You know, they beat 221 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: the Colts with heineke, they beat Green Bay with heineke, 222 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 1: They beat Jacksonville and they lost by three to the Vikings. 223 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 1: What do you make of tonight's matchup Washington and Philly 224 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 1: in the City of Brotherly Love. Yeah, I said this yesterday. 225 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: I think that's an upset game. I think Washington wins 226 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: the game tonight not and part of the reason, the 227 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: big reason is because of who I think he's a competitor. 228 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: I think he's tough to defend. He's mobile, he has 229 00:11:53,320 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: got a care free spirit. He will sling it around. 230 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: And those are guys that are they are dangerous to play. 231 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: He's got enough experience where he knows this league now 232 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: and he's playing with a tremendous amount of confidence. Every 233 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 1: time he gets an opportunity where it's more than just 234 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,959 Speaker 1: to fill in here or a game here, the kid 235 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: wins and he looks good doing it. And I feel 236 00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 1: confident that that Washington will do, will do the job 237 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: tonight and upset Philadelphia. Okay, here's a piece of news 238 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: from Ian Rappaport speaking of the command Commodores. The Commanders 239 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: are not activating star pass rusher Chase Young off IR 240 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: for tonight's game against the Eagles. A source said, Young 241 00:12:36,880 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: coming back from acl Terra is close to being ready, 242 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 1: and there's a real chance he makes his debut next 243 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: week if all goes well at practice this week, and 244 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: that would be against us. Thanks a lot. Well, wait 245 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: a minute, he's an edge guy, right, He doesn't play 246 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: defensive tackles, correct, So we're good. Well that is if 247 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: you think Darn Payne is a slappy, which Durn playing 248 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 1: Durn is not a slappy at all. Uh, Drey, I 249 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: want to I want to read you something real quick, 250 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:07,719 Speaker 1: and I I don't want to get your reaction to it, 251 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 1: and I don't I don't have a Heisman ballot, but 252 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: I just put together my top five for what it 253 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: would be. I want you to apply to what I've 254 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: come up with. Number one handed hooker, number two Drake 255 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: May from North Carolina, Number three c. J. Straut of 256 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:26,439 Speaker 1: High State, four Blake Coreham, number five, Michael PENNOCKX Junior. 257 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: And then an honorary vote with the Harold Perkins from LSU, 258 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: the true freshman from out of Cypress who was unbelievable 259 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: against both Alabama and Arkansas. Your gut reaction to my 260 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: foe Heisman ballot, I like it. I like it. You 261 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 1: kind of went off the grain a little bit. You 262 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 1: got not the norm of guys that that a lot 263 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: of people have, and you don't have last year's h 264 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:53,319 Speaker 1: Heisman winner on your top five or six. Yeah, where's 265 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: Bryce right? I still play some pretty good football now? 266 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: He is? He is. I'm telling you the throw that 267 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 1: he makes, the throw that he made against Old Miss 268 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: where he's kind of fading to his right and he's 269 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,439 Speaker 1: got to hit to Corey Brooks in the end zone. 270 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,199 Speaker 1: If you have if you haven't seen it, I mean, 271 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 1: my goodness, I just feel like and I probably should 272 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: put Bryce in there. I don't think there's any question, 273 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: but A wanted to make sure Blake Korm got some 274 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: love because I think Blake's been really good this year. 275 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: But to be the biggest one was Drake May. Drake 276 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: May is a class at twenty twenty four and then everybody, well, hey, 277 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: there's twenty twenty three class. I mean, I'm guilty of it. 278 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: This twenty twenty three class is gonna be fantastic at quarterback. 279 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: It's gonna be good, and there's depth to it. I 280 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: don't know if there's high end, elite, elite, elite guys 281 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 1: across the board, but class at twenty four DRE, I 282 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: mean the class at twenty four DRE with Drake May, 283 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Caleb Williams, Jackson dart Man. There could be some elite dudes. 284 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: But Drake May is killing it for North Carolina this year. Yeah, 285 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: he can flat out throw it. And you know, I 286 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: think Matt got lucky and in a sense, well not 287 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: lucky because he recruited the kids. But when you lose 288 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: a Hartman and then all of a sudden, you can 289 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 1: replace him with May and not really lose a step. 290 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: I know their offensive coordinator Phil long Ago very well. 291 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: We text about weekly, and he is a hell of 292 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: a coach. He loves Drake May and uh and just 293 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 1: the ability to be able to coach him for the 294 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: next couple of seasons is amazing. But he is the 295 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,560 Speaker 1: sole reason why North Carolina is relevant in the eighth 296 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 1: receivers year. All right, so we have the Tax Act 297 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: Texas Bowl coming up December twenty eighth here at NRG Stadium. 298 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: I guess the Aggies aren't going to be there, or 299 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: any bowl for that matter. Could they could? They could three? 300 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: And what what's the weather? They're three and seven, so 301 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: they've only got two games left. So they got you going, 302 00:15:44,040 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: that's right, going sub five, Huggies. And by the way, 303 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: my goodness, just put salt in that wound. Well, let 304 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: me ask you this, Let's let's focus on something happier. TCU, 305 00:15:54,120 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: dre and and the blue Bloods just don't want him 306 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:01,600 Speaker 1: in there. They're ten and oh do they deserve to 307 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: be there? Obviously they have to win out, but what 308 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 1: are your thoughts on how good they can be in 309 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 1: this playoff if they make it. I think they can 310 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: give anybody and anytime fits. They're kind of the further 311 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: South or the Big twelve version of Tennessee, where they 312 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,119 Speaker 1: might be a little bit better on defense obviously than Tennessee, 313 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: but offensively they can score with anybody. And you've got 314 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: to tap tip your hat to to sunny It and 315 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: what he's been able to do there in a very 316 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,920 Speaker 1: short period of time. It's a magical ride. You're right, 317 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: it's it's reserved for the blue bloods, but here comes 318 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 1: TCU to crash the party. All they can do is 319 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: play who's on their schedule and look good doing it. 320 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:46,280 Speaker 1: And they've done it the entire season, so absolutely they're 321 00:16:46,320 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: deserving of being exactly where it right where they are 322 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: disappoint in the season. Two regular season games left, Big 323 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: twelve championship game is always a rematch. They aren't defeated. 324 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: They're in me I mean right now, it's basically a 325 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: playoff for tc Every weekend you lose, you're out. You win. 326 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: Every week you're in so Ohio State, Michigan, the loser 327 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 1: is gonna be out right? You think it depends on 328 00:17:10,240 --> 00:17:13,120 Speaker 1: how the game goes. Yeah, it depends on how that 329 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 1: game goes, I would imagine, because is there any chance 330 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: for you know, for you know who to sneak back 331 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 1: in there the the Evil Empire. No, because they can't 332 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,199 Speaker 1: win the West and they can't win the SEC, so 333 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: there's no way you've got to. I would imagine a 334 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: conference champion or played for the conference championship, and Alabama 335 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: can do either, but LS you can. And LSU's got 336 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:41,080 Speaker 1: two losses, but LS you can. LSU wins out, they're 337 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: gonna go to the playoff with two losses. Brian Kelly, 338 00:17:44,240 --> 00:17:46,640 Speaker 1: not a bad job there in year one. Hum, well, yeah, 339 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,640 Speaker 1: you win, you win the SEC. You're pretty much going 340 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: to get in based on you know, and that could 341 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: easily happen with LSU, though I don't know if I 342 00:17:56,440 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 1: see anybody right now beating Georgia on their way to 343 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: to the SEC Championship and the INN in the SEC 344 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: Championship game. Who I'm gonna give you a purely hypothetical 345 00:18:09,119 --> 00:18:12,160 Speaker 1: situation here, Okay, this is totally hypothetical. All right, when 346 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: I get these it's all right, both of you, both 347 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: of you. You're a general manager of an NFL team 348 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: and you have the number one pick in the draft. 349 00:18:18,440 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: Who are you taking? Oh this is easy for me. 350 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:27,199 Speaker 1: I take. Now. You gotta make your you gotta, you 351 00:18:27,200 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: gotta hat to this situation. You can't trade back. You 352 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 1: have to. But I trade back before he does it, 353 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: before he puts this this endum into this this deal. 354 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: I'm gonna trade back, acquire picks, and figure out how 355 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: to give Michael Pennocks Junior. Let me let me a phrase. 356 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, let me rephrase it. You have a 357 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: very high pick, and you decide this is hypothetical. You 358 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: decide you need a quarterback. Who are you taking? I 359 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 1: know this is easy for me. It would be. You 360 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: don't have to tell me quarterback or player. It's Bryce Young. 361 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: I brought him up earlier. Okay. I just want the 362 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 1: ball in his hands. I want the ball in his 363 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 1: hands when there's an opportunity. If you tell me I 364 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: can't trade, if you tell me I can't trade, which 365 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: I would like to do to. I like what Drake's thinking. Absolutely, 366 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: if I can trade down, Oh my gosh, that's what 367 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: I gonna have. The Browns keep losing because you get one. 368 00:19:18,240 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: If you get the Browns pick and they keep losing, 369 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: well they can get trade down from that one. The 370 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: Texans can affect that if we can't, I can't help myself, 371 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: but think this way. But and I'm thinking through Bryce 372 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: Young's eyes as a player as well, that you know, 373 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 1: when if it's Bryce show, I don't see that I 374 00:19:38,440 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: could take Bryce Young first overall. But one, I don't 375 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 1: know how healthy he's gonna be from year year and 376 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 1: the year based on his you know how he's built. Two, 377 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: he's got to go to the right situation. And do 378 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:56,119 Speaker 1: I have enough talent around him to actually have the 379 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:58,239 Speaker 1: for him to have the type of career that I 380 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:00,159 Speaker 1: need him to have his as a JI or a 381 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 1: manager of a team. Dude, can I equip him with 382 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,879 Speaker 1: enough talent right away for him to step in day one? 383 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: Because I know he's gonna be smart enough, he's gonna 384 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: pick things up. Uh, that's a guy that you play 385 00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: right away. But can I win with him right away? 386 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: With I got what I have around him right now? 387 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 1: And that would be the question before I made that 388 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,400 Speaker 1: decision to pull the trigger for bright Shall Otherwise it's 389 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: a bigger statured guy like Hooker or Stroud, or even 390 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: the tradeback scenario where I know that I can get 391 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: more picks and then still get a quarterback has probably 392 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,640 Speaker 1: got the best arm in this draft in Michael Pennox. Yeah, 393 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: but Drede, your guy is going to shoot up the 394 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: board through the offseason. I just predict this happening. Well, 395 00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 1: he's all battle is going to be physical. Physically, he 396 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,440 Speaker 1: is the most talented quarterback in this thing in terms 397 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: of experience where he can put the football. He can 398 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: throw it in place that guys on Sundays can't put it. 399 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: But the physical, the physical when he goes in and 400 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: they're tapping on his knee and moving things around. He's 401 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: had two acls, he's had a shoulder injury, and you know, 402 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: can he finish the season those types of things. He's 403 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: still mobile. He was a track star coming out of 404 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: high school. He can run, but they don't ask him 405 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 1: to do that at Washington for fear that you know, 406 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: the injuries come back become a part of it again. 407 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: So that's the big part of for Michael Pennox is 408 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 1: can he pass a physical because physically he is gifted, 409 00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: as gifted as any quarterback in the country, four years 410 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: in Indiana, four years in Indiana, four season ending injuries 411 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: during those years, never finished it completely healthy if he 412 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: is healthy, I mean I agree with Trey. I mean 413 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: the throw that he makes for a touchdown against Oregany 414 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: in the night and the cover two hole is just ripped. 415 00:21:56,119 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what quarterback makes d this 416 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:04,360 Speaker 1: year and I've had the luxury and seeing throw after throw, 417 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: just wild throws during a game. We're not talking a 418 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: practice session or we're in pregame warm up. I'm talking 419 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,880 Speaker 1: in game stuff that you would you would It would 420 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: be the equivalent of seeing somebody pull off a dunk 421 00:22:18,160 --> 00:22:21,120 Speaker 1: in a game that you you've only seen in practice 422 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: and with other bodies around him on the floor. That's 423 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: how good the kid is. That's how well he can 424 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 1: throw the football. Are you talking about the deep past 425 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: to Polk because all right, well that one was a 426 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: beauty too because he held in his face. That's Mark. 427 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 1: That's his second best throw of the night. Oh, that 428 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: throw was gorgeous, But the best throw was into the 429 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: cover two hole to rog Davis. I mean just a 430 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,479 Speaker 1: laser shot from Michael Pennox. It's a name to keep 431 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 1: an eye on Michael Pennox Junior out of Washington. He 432 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 1: has got a canon. He just has to stay healthy. 433 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: All right, we get backlets here from the General John 434 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 1: McClain right here at Texas All Access. What's going on everybody? 435 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: Hopefully you are dry and doing okay? Is I've got 436 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 1: the lightning boomers all around me tonight on Texans All Access. 437 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: But I appreciate you being here with me. John Harris 438 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 1: Football and a sideline reporters. Time to talk to the General, 439 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 1: and of course we wanted to get his thoughts on 440 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: the Texans loss to the Giants right now. Another game 441 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: where right there the fourth quarter, I have a chance 442 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:24,200 Speaker 1: to make some plays, They're not able to make them. 443 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: They go home with another loss. Your thoughts, Texans have 444 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,720 Speaker 1: been in every game in the fourth quarter other than 445 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: the Titans game and another one score laws and what 446 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, you can't go one of six in the 447 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: red zone, and really two touchdowns were in the red zone, 448 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 1: even though one went from the fourteen back out to 449 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 1: the twenty nine and Mills to the terrible pass into 450 00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: double coverage in the end zone. And you can't go 451 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: three of ten on third down. You just can't do that. 452 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: Yet here they were. They make just enough crucial mistakes 453 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 1: to lose, and it's amazing the way they stay in 454 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: those games when one of six and the Reds off 455 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: three or ten on thirdday, both turnovers crucial. Really, the Giants, 456 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: you knew because they're gonna when you run the ball 457 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 1: a lot, the game's going to be close unless you're 458 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: giving up long touchdown ruds. And more and more teams 459 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: in the NFL now are running the ball, and I 460 00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,959 Speaker 1: read a great analysis of that early in the season, 461 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: because more teams are playing too deep coverage design to 462 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: prevent big plays, and some teams are still making big 463 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: plays in the passing game. But I get it. Just 464 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: amazes me that Davis Mills could be so bad six 465 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: to thirteen for thirty five yards in the first half, 466 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 1: and then they come out with a different strategy with 467 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: that Hamilton calling the plays and he's sixteen to twenty 468 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: four for two hundred and eighty four in a touchdown 469 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: in the second half. If they ever put together a 470 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: full game like they flashed in the first half or 471 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: the second half, Philadelphia, great first half this game, terrible 472 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: first half by the passing game, and they're still down 473 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: seven to three. So if they're able to do that, 474 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 1: and I don't know if they will be because they 475 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,480 Speaker 1: haven't done it yet, they can win some games, including 476 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: the game coming up against the Commanders. Washington has not 477 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:35,200 Speaker 1: been special. Yeah, Washington is nothing special, but they got 478 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: a few interior dudes that are pretty good. John, if 479 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 1: you could alter or change one thing right now for 480 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: this Texas team, you can just change that. And no 481 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: matter high level though, I mean, whatever you want it 482 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: to be, you can change one thing right now that 483 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,720 Speaker 1: you think is going to make this team win games, 484 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,040 Speaker 1: be competitive for the next eight games, but win half 485 00:25:56,080 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: of those down the stretch. What one thing would you 486 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: change or would you do? Consistency that comes with finishing 487 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter games in which you're closed. They're 488 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: getting pounded in the fourth quarter, and I think a 489 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: lot of that's talent. You know, this team doesn't have 490 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:16,840 Speaker 1: a lot of talent. Let's be honest. That the worst 491 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,280 Speaker 1: record in the NFL and so that that kind of 492 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: shows up. But the ability to be consistent from start 493 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: to finish and do what they're doing. You know, you 494 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 1: don't say, Okay, you need a new quarterback, you need 495 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 1: new interior offensive lineman. And center and right guard. There's 496 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: things that they need, of course, but with everything they 497 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 1: got gone, if they could just come up in the 498 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and do what they do some of the 499 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: like the third quarters their strongest quarter. And what bothers me. 500 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,440 Speaker 1: Jerry Us is having a tremendous season. He's thirty or 501 00:26:55,600 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: thirty four years old, and so it's like to me, 502 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 1: you should be about to put him in a freezer 503 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: and thaw him out next year and see and because 504 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: he's going to taking a beating, he's going to set 505 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: a career hiring sex getting through the Texas. He's been 506 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: and he's been able to do it without Jonathan Grenard, 507 00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 1: their best pass russer on the other side, helping him out. 508 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 1: It's amazing what Jerry Us is doing. John latest assessment 509 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: on Davis Mills. They're playing him to develop him, to 510 00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: get them better, to see what they've got in him. 511 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: And you see so many flashes, Like you said, what 512 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 1: are your thoughts as you have eight games to go 513 00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: here in the regular season At a time I was 514 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: tweeting bench and put in Kyle Allen the passing game 515 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: is awful, and it was, and yet they were seven 516 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: to three and they stuck with Males in the three 517 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,159 Speaker 1: for two and eighty four yards in the second half. 518 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: He had one really bad pass that was intercepted. That 519 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: was one too many. I'm sure he gets frustrated and 520 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: you're on reporter team yard line. Next day, you know 521 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: you're on the twenty nine. You have a touchdown pass 522 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: callback because of the penalty on Kenyan Green. So he 523 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: tried to get it all and at one play. But 524 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: in Mills his case, consistency play a whole game like 525 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,720 Speaker 1: he played in the first half against Philadelphia. The second 526 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:21,680 Speaker 1: half in this game. You know he did it last year, 527 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: but he's not doing it this year. Last year down 528 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:28,640 Speaker 1: the Straits, he had three ratings and triple digits. This 529 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: year he's got none. And he had his receivers back, 530 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and Nico Collins. And you know, when you 531 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: look at what this team's going to need in the 532 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: off season, they got a lot of needs. You know, 533 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 1: you look at you look on offense. If Nick as 534 00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: Sario see the quarterback he likes better than Miles, he's 535 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,000 Speaker 1: got to take it. You can fill in, but if 536 00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:53,640 Speaker 1: you got a chance and to franchise quarterback, you got 537 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: to get it you know, they need a center, they 538 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: need a tight end, they need another receiver. You got 539 00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: to have better guys interior wise at center and right 540 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 1: guard because they're getting crushed by defensive tackles. And then 541 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: you've got to be able to stop the run better 542 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: that stops with the interior. You know, it would be 543 00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: very tempting, and this is going to be something we'll 544 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: think about. Save Save Mills turns it around and shows 545 00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: consistency and because Sara, okay, we'll ride with Mills another season. 546 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: Top pick? Would it be Will Anderson? Would it be 547 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: Jailn Carter of Georgia? Both of them are great to 548 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: totally different players, but both we could provide solve a 549 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: serious need there. And you know they still need to 550 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: me another safety. But still down seventy three and a 551 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: half time against a team that's not going to blow 552 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: you out. I thought it would be another close game, 553 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,120 Speaker 1: would be a fast game because both teams are going 554 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: to run so much. And it was till right at 555 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: the end, and it was fun. It was fun to 556 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:06,280 Speaker 1: watch because the Texans had a chance to win another game, 557 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 1: and I suspect they're gonna have a chance to beat Washington. Generally, 558 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:14,800 Speaker 1: your gut reaction to Jeff Saturday and the Colts going 559 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: off to Las Vegas and winning that game yesterday. Good 560 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: for him, And how embarrassing for Josh McDaniels. Last year 561 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 1: under Rich beside you and they were like seven and 562 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: one in one score games. This year they're winless. The 563 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: Raiders right now got to be the biggest disappointment in 564 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: the league. Josh McDaniel's record as a head coach at 565 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: Denver and in his first season with the Raiders has 566 00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: been awful, and it's got to be exacerbated because you 567 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,840 Speaker 1: lose to a guy who has never coached. And I'm 568 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: guessing if Frank Raich was still there, Jim Mersey would 569 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: not have let him played Matt Ryan, but he let 570 00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday play him, and Ryan played well. John Taylor 571 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: up to his old tricks hundred forty yards and that's 572 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,600 Speaker 1: the way they win. And congratulations to Saturday, a good 573 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: guy thrust into a situation unpresidented since nineteen fifty. Wow. 574 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: All right, So the Titans get Ryan Tannehill back. Derek 575 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 1: Henry doesn't run for much below sixty yards, but Tannehill 576 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: plays well enough and they beat the Broncos thoughts on them, 577 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: and I don't need I don't know if we need 578 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: to get into the Jacks losing to Kansas City. That 579 00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: just happened. But anyway, thoughts on the Titans. Mike Vrabel 580 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 1: continues to do a great coaching job. He didn't have 581 00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 1: Jeffrey Simmons. They've lost so many players this year. Their 582 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 1: offense is not good. Their defense is great under Shane Bowen, 583 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,719 Speaker 1: who was here when Graybell left. He asked if he 584 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,680 Speaker 1: could take Shane bowing with him. They said yes, and 585 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: now he's a coordinator their defense even without Jeffrey Simmons. 586 00:31:56,120 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: Wouldn't it happened to the Texans A Titans Jeffrey Simmons 587 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: had not been able to play that game and they're 588 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,480 Speaker 1: able to pull it out Tannehill two touchdown passes. It's 589 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: just amazing the way they continue to win despite everything 590 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: they have going on on both sides of the ball. 591 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: Tip of the captive raybol we know very well as 592 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: a good guy who's doing a great job. They don't 593 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: get a lot of attention. They're boring. They play every 594 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: game close, but they continue to win. General Game of 595 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 1: the Year yesterday Buffalo Minnesota. Is it without a doubt 596 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 1: the game of the year. That one was wild. We 597 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: were kind of following it in the post game and 598 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, this game is still going at 599 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 1: that point. Just a tremendous game. I haven't had a 600 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: chance to see it yet, but you agree, it's the 601 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 1: game of the year to this point, through ten weeks, 602 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: the game of the year. It may be the game 603 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: of the year for the rest of the season. It 604 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: was on here opposite the Texans. Texans went off, you 605 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: switch over to that, and right when Josh Alan fumbled 606 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: on his one inch line, as perth the Fts rules, 607 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: we have to switch to your regular programming, which is 608 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Packers. They're not Oh my god. 609 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 1: And so it was an incredible finish and Josh Allen's 610 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 1: been throwing too many interceptions, throwing too many suptions in 611 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:26,480 Speaker 1: the end zone and gush. Kevin O'Connell and his offensive 612 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:30,760 Speaker 1: coordinator Wes Phillips, son of Wade, grandson of Bum, are 613 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: doing a tremendous job with Kirk Cousins. They got balanced, 614 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: they proved they got mental toughness. Now what you want 615 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: to do is keep Kirk Cousins out of prime time, 616 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: where he's been terrible, but based on the way they're 617 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: playing right now, the Minnesota Vikings of the second best 618 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: team in the NFL allows Sexton. I'll see the third 619 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,360 Speaker 1: best team to Philadelphia in Kansas City, but they're showing 620 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: a grit under Kevin O'Connell. I have a y'all a 621 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 1: quick story. And after with Johnny Manziel was coming in 622 00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 1: coming out in the draft, I to San Diego to 623 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 1: spend two days with him with George Whitfield was training him, 624 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: and I went with him where they trained, wrote a 625 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff about it, and so I went everywhere 626 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: with him. And then when he did his work on 627 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,120 Speaker 1: the computer, George takes me in his room and guys 628 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: sitting at the computer. Manziel sits next to him. He says, Hey, McCloy, 629 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: John McCloy, and Kevin O'Connell. Kevin's help out with my 630 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: quarterbacks here on their computer work. And that's how I 631 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,720 Speaker 1: met him. And the same thing appened here with Jeff Nale, 632 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,440 Speaker 1: the agent here who had guys working out for Jerry Row. 633 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: And one day I was there, Oh, this is uh. 634 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,440 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury just left pro football. He's doing support for 635 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: us with our quarterback prospects. That's how I met Kevin 636 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: O'Connell and Cliff Kingsbury. Well, you know, I always say 637 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: be nice to the end turns they might be your 638 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:07,879 Speaker 1: boss one day. So it's notable when you see look everybody, Well, 639 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 1: I'm trying. I'm trying, general, quick comment here. You mentioned 640 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,399 Speaker 1: the Commanders and I'm looking at the stats here. It's 641 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: a pretty good matchup of the Texans here on Sunday, 642 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 1: and they play at the Eagles tonight, then they have 643 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:19,879 Speaker 1: to stay on the road stawn the world. They'll go home, 644 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,680 Speaker 1: but they have back to back on the road as 645 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: they'll come here on Sunday. Will you pick the Texans 646 00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,760 Speaker 1: over the Commanders? General? Well, picking against them every game, 647 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: I've been pretty I've been in pretty good shape. But 648 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: you know what, I may just to change it up. 649 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:39,000 Speaker 1: I may pick the Texans to beat the Commanders. They're 650 00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 1: certainly capable. They played well enough to win several games. Now, 651 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: some of these games they were close in the fourth quarter. 652 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: They weren't going to win. They just weren't good. Heinekeia 653 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:54,800 Speaker 1: who had a cup of coffee. They can win that 654 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 1: game at NRG Stadium, Yes, I may think them. All right, 655 00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: Sunday at noon, own Texans commanders. All right, well we'll 656 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: get together Thursday night at six. All right, thank you, John, 657 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 1: We appreciate Yes, thank you, General, appreciate you being here. 658 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: All Right, we get back. Spencer Tillman will join the 659 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: show right here in Texas locks US. Hey, I know 660 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: we got a lot of great fans out there, but 661 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,759 Speaker 1: I give props to some of our biggest fans right 662 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: here in Houston, and that's Dyking. These guys are doing 663 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: big things in Houston. As the world's number one indoor 664 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: comfort provider, Dyken is committed to perfecting the air that 665 00:36:28,719 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: connects us all, from comfort and convenience to air quality. 666 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,359 Speaker 1: Dyking's innovations are changing our people enjoy the indoors as 667 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 1: they lead the way to a more sustainable future, reducing 668 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:40,160 Speaker 1: our carbon emissions to net zero by twenty fifty. Learn 669 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:42,800 Speaker 1: more at Dyke in d ai k I N Dyken 670 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: loves Houston dot com and we love Spencer Tillman and 671 00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: he joined us to talk about the game, but we 672 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: started with the Texans quarterback. Spencer latest thoughts on Davis Mills. 673 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: Another performance where you had some good moments you had 674 00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,680 Speaker 1: some moments you want back, you had over three hundred 675 00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: yards to know, A lot of that was at the 676 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: end of the game when you're trying to play that 677 00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 1: on side kick, get a quick score kind of game 678 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 1: and get down the fields in a hurry. But your 679 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: thoughts on Mills with eight games to go in the season, well, 680 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: we got it. This is a little bit trickier, a 681 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: lot trickier, actually, I mean it kind of reminds me 682 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: of you know, Tim Brandon my broadcast part of how 683 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,000 Speaker 1: we fight. You know, we have what I call creative tension, 684 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: and it's intentional. We have to do it. We have 685 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,879 Speaker 1: to do it to be better at what we do. 686 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 1: So if you're assessing a guy who you kind of said, hey, look, 687 00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,359 Speaker 1: we're going to give him a shot and give him 688 00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: everything he possibly can have to have success in this 689 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 1: second year of his campaign, so of its career. So 690 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:40,400 Speaker 1: as you do that, as you evaluate what constitutes success, 691 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 1: you better have some hard edges on that. In other words, 692 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: have clear lines of what constitutes success and fail. You're 693 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 1: mapped out because if you don't, people don't like to 694 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: make that clear because they like to keep it in 695 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: the fall. But the problem is you still end up 696 00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: failing anyway if you don't make the terms and conditions 697 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,320 Speaker 1: of what constitute success clear, and then when you finally 698 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:02,400 Speaker 1: get it, don't be afraid to pull the trigger and 699 00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: make the decision, whatever that decision is. I personally think 700 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:07,680 Speaker 1: it's too early to be pulling the plug at the 701 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: halfway point on the guy who you decided, you know, 702 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,479 Speaker 1: to give a shot at being a franchise guy. So 703 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 1: I think it's early. I think you give him the 704 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: full year to see if he can make good on 705 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,239 Speaker 1: the promise that he showed at the end of a 706 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 1: rookie campaign. That's the way I would have it right now. 707 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 1: But you definitely better be mindful of where you are 708 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 1: right now on that process. See these are good life 709 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: lessons from Spencer because I feel like I like to 710 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: keep things foggy, all right, I like to keep things foggy, 711 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,759 Speaker 1: and also at home when there's an argument, next time, 712 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,319 Speaker 1: I'm going to say, this is just creative tension. Yes, 713 00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 1: all right, it's not really an argument. It's creative tension. 714 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:42,200 Speaker 1: But I'm right you're wrong, yes exactly. That's probably not 715 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:44,680 Speaker 1: what you should say. It's probably not what you should 716 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 1: say if you want to sleep outside right exactly, got Spencer, 717 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: h I don't trying to think of the timing. I 718 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: don't think we talked with you about this last week 719 00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: with Jim Yer saying the Cults going out and getting 720 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Saturday to lead the team as the interim head coach. 721 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,319 Speaker 1: They go to Las Vegas and the Colts get a win. 722 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: They've got a thirty year old call in plays who 723 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: was an offensive assistant last week. He got play story. 724 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,800 Speaker 1: I think that's a story. Defense holds the Raiders to 725 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 1: twenty because Bradley has a great game, but just everything 726 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: going on with the cult, Spencer, how do you think 727 00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: that was received in the locker room with a player, well, 728 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,919 Speaker 1: a former player who had never coached in the NFL 729 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: or even college, coming in to lead the team in 730 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:33,000 Speaker 1: week ten of the season. The professor set me up 731 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 1: man with a good one that wasn't like a knuckleball, 732 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,960 Speaker 1: and it was like a field neek road knuckleball. And 733 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,279 Speaker 1: here's why it was a tricky one because you can't 734 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,080 Speaker 1: argue with the results, right, you don't argue with the results. 735 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: Gods get that momentary burst and but what it does 736 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,839 Speaker 1: at the same time, and both things by the way, 737 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: it can be true if you have this infrastructure put 738 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,920 Speaker 1: in place, this runey rule, which I think is not 739 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,000 Speaker 1: the best scenario to fix it because you have to 740 00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: understand who's trying to fix it. The folks that are 741 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:00,719 Speaker 1: trying to fix it are the ones really have the 742 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,359 Speaker 1: bias that's kind of inherent in all of us. All 743 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,120 Speaker 1: of us have biased irrespective of race, color, any of 744 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,480 Speaker 1: that stuff. The question is we have to understand how 745 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: structural bias works and then how do you guard against it. 746 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,440 Speaker 1: But when you have a system in place and you 747 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: do what you did or say did with Saturday, what 748 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,479 Speaker 1: you do, man, is you've just basically railroad any type 749 00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: of effort that's established to create some semblance of fairness. 750 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean, the league itself is founded. When the league 751 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: was founded, the late commissioner Pete Rozelle coined that phrase. 752 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,360 Speaker 1: Any given Sunday, the idea of being any one of 753 00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,400 Speaker 1: these teams at the time, I think that was twenty 754 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:39,200 Speaker 1: eight or so, you are going to have a chance 755 00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,160 Speaker 1: to be competitive. Everything structurally is set up so that 756 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: you can be competitive. We're going to give you the 757 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 1: best shot at the best players. If you fail miserably 758 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 1: the year before, and all of that's designed to create 759 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: parity and balance to keep the product strong. So now 760 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,759 Speaker 1: why can't we apply that same strategy. And I'm not 761 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,839 Speaker 1: making the arguments for it. I'm just simply saying, if 762 00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,520 Speaker 1: you're going to do that and that those processes apply 763 00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: for your business model, why shouldn't they apply for life 764 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: and the more weightier issues that we're dealing with. So 765 00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 1: are they separate issues? Not really. I think they're all 766 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:15,880 Speaker 1: mutually connected to one another, and so I think you 767 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 1: can't argue with the results. Sometimes changes all anybody needs, 768 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: a change of location, or change of person in that seat, 769 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: all of it can happen, but it doesn't necessarily mean 770 00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 1: it was the right or the best move. So it's 771 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: a tricky question because the evidence right there is sitting 772 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,560 Speaker 1: there in your face in terms of how we measure 773 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 1: success in the National Football League, and you guys know that. 774 00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 1: You know it's it's adapter die quickly or you're out 775 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,560 Speaker 1: of the mix. So it's a tricky question, but it's 776 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: one that I think deserves another segment on at some 777 00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: future point in time, because I got a lot of 778 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: good stuff on how to manage these situations. Absolutely had 779 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: a great time talking with Spence about a ton of 780 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: different things. You can't wait to do it again next Monday. 781 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,720 Speaker 1: All right, it's gonna do it for the show this evening. 782 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,480 Speaker 1: Appreciate Spencer and John, Andre and Mark and all of 783 00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,680 Speaker 1: you guys for listening. Thank you so much. We will 784 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: see you tomorrow. But keep it locked right here for 785 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:11,720 Speaker 1: tonight's Monday Night game, the Commanders taking on the Eagles 786 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,440 Speaker 1: in Philly. It's all for tonight, we'll see Tomorrow's always 787 00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:14,880 Speaker 1: go Texans.