WEBVTT - The Worst AI Products Coming This Year

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<v Speaker 1>Al Zone Media. Oh my goodness, it's it could happen here,

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<v Speaker 1>a podcast that is about things falling apart are Dystopian

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<v Speaker 1>now and tomorrow, And for the last several days has

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<v Speaker 1>been heavily about the Consumer Electronics Show, which is a

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<v Speaker 1>huge event every year where one hundred and twenty to

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and fifty thousand people flood into Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>to show off all of the new gadgets and to

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<v Speaker 1>have big, fancy panels on the future of technology. And

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<v Speaker 1>this has been a particularly good year for the Dystopia beat.

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<v Speaker 1>Part of that because the entire industry is obsessed right

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<v Speaker 1>now with artificial intelligence. Now there's a couple reasons for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Every laptop manufacturer is basically throwing out laptops with AI assistance.

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<v Speaker 1>Microsoft's is Copilot, and they're doing this because laptop sales

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<v Speaker 1>have stalled a lot of people, like the pandemic was

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<v Speaker 1>great for laptop sales, and then people stopped buying them

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<v Speaker 1>because most people don't need to replace their laptops very often.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's this death spread hope that by scaring everybody

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<v Speaker 1>into thinking they need AI immediately, they can get folks

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<v Speaker 1>to buy a new raft of machines, and outside of that,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just as I'm sure you're aware, with interest rates

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<v Speaker 1>where they are companies, Tech companies, particularly startups, are having

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<v Speaker 1>trouble getting VC money venture capital money invested in them.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's this kind of desperate hope that by plugging

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<v Speaker 1>AI constantly they can fill in the gap. So today

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<v Speaker 1>we have probably in a week or two, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to have be putting out a long investigation based on

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<v Speaker 1>number of panels we went to with executives from Google,

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<v Speaker 1>from weirdly enough McDonald's, from Adobe, from Nvidia, from the

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<v Speaker 1>Consumer Electronics Association, in multiple government agencies including DHS, on

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<v Speaker 1>what they see as the future of AI. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be some pretty in depth reporting. But today we

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about the AI products that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>seeing and as a spoiler, they're basically all the dumbest

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<v Speaker 1>shit you've ever heard of. So I want to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>our panel today. Coming back after catching a horrible, horrible

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<v Speaker 1>lung infection, throat infection, some kind of infection. Yeah, Garrison

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<v Speaker 1>got strep throat and despite the fact that we've been

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<v Speaker 1>hanging out together, I did not, which does prove I'm

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<v Speaker 1>genetically superior. We also have Tavia Mora coming back our

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<v Speaker 1>technical expert. Hello Tavia, Howdy everybody, and for the first

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<v Speaker 1>time on well, no, not for the first time, for

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<v Speaker 1>the third time on It could happen here. The upcoming

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<v Speaker 1>host of the cool Zone media tech focused show Better

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<v Speaker 1>Offline ed zitron.

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<v Speaker 2>Ed Wi Guan Hello, Hey, yeah, sorry, Hi, Yeah, hit

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<v Speaker 2>my head on the way, and yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>It's a truly awful show this year.

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<v Speaker 2>The thing that I said to Robert yesterday when we

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<v Speaker 2>were talking about the show, and this really stood out

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<v Speaker 2>to me, is if you had told me this was

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty one, I'd have believed you. It doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 2>despite the use of the word AI, it does not

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<v Speaker 2>feel like tech has actually moved that far.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's very strange.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there was this period of time after the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>came out where every year there would be really big

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<v Speaker 1>lead in the tech you saw. And this part of

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<v Speaker 1>I think why they're leaning on AI so heavily is

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<v Speaker 1>otherwise it's just the same laptop, smartphones, speakers, connected gadgets,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, autonomous cars and shit that we've been seeing

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<v Speaker 1>for years and they really haven't jumped forward much. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the downside of that is a lot of things.

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<v Speaker 1>But the upside of that is people are increasingly cramming

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<v Speaker 1>AI into insane shit in the hopes that somebody will

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<v Speaker 1>want to buy it. And so I want to start

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<v Speaker 1>off ed since you're you are not just our newest

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<v Speaker 1>host but also a Las Vegas native. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>could probably assume that from your Vegas accents. Yes, natural, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>what is your favorite or the first AI product do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to get into today?

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk about the rabbit. The rabbit on

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<v Speaker 3>one Oh God.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>So this thing is a square box and I can't

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<v Speaker 2>tell if it acts without your phone or with your phone,

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<v Speaker 2>but it uses AI. You you speak into it, look

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<v Speaker 2>a walk, dooky, and it does a series of actions

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<v Speaker 2>what you say. So it can do all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that Siri could do five years ago, like change music

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<v Speaker 2>and start. But it also has like a three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and sixty degree camera, which can based on the extremely

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<v Speaker 2>awkward and agonizing how a long demo twenty five minutes

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<v Speaker 2>but on me it felt like an hour. It can

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<v Speaker 2>look at a picture of rick Castle and start very

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<v Speaker 2>and after several agonizing seconds stop playing never give you up.

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<v Speaker 2>It can also it claims do a series of nuanced

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<v Speaker 2>actions like you can say, get me a cab home

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<v Speaker 2>and also put on my tunes and also change the

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<v Speaker 2>air conditioned at seventy four degrees, all in one one sentence.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you may think, why do I need to spend

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred dollars on a device to do this? And

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<v Speaker 2>the answer is you don't. You do not need to.

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<v Speaker 2>This thing looks cool and on some level, I'm just

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<v Speaker 2>glad we're getting new tat.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the design is not bad. It's like a square.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like it's maybe two to two and a

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<v Speaker 1>half inches by two and a half inches or so

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. Yeah, a little screen. It's like well

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<v Speaker 1>designed from an industrial design standpoint, and I think the

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<v Speaker 1>big Yeah, it looks like it's just that it's a

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<v Speaker 1>It's a basically a seri that can use app It

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<v Speaker 1>can use uber, It could book a flight for you.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the things they show is it like planning

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<v Speaker 1>a vacation in London for you, which does seem to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of go against the point of like going somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>new and like figuring out what you want to do there,

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<v Speaker 1>as opposed to it's basically pulling from a list. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure in the AI wrote of like top ten things

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<v Speaker 1>to do in London.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's just very weird because all of these tech guys,

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<v Speaker 2>who they very loudly claim their free spirits. They're independent,

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<v Speaker 2>they're not controlled by any authority, they cannot be manipulated,

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<v Speaker 2>all desperately want a machine to tell them exactly what

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<v Speaker 2>the hell to do with their lives. And it's so

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<v Speaker 2>bizarre because they we were discussing the different articles about

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<v Speaker 2>this and people trying to argue other thing these three exists.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, it takes out the friction between all

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<v Speaker 2>of these apps. I'm sorry, I just don't think there's

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<v Speaker 2>that much friction.

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<v Speaker 1>Pull up my phone. I'm on a yes, right, I

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<v Speaker 1>pull out my phone, I pull up grub Hub, I

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<v Speaker 1>order food. It's very simple. It's remarkably easy. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see how talking to a square is better, Like it's

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<v Speaker 1>the same, Like I could call someone on the phone

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<v Speaker 1>and do it hands free, or I could text them,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always text them because that's more pleasant.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, like, I have my phone open to signal

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<v Speaker 4>right now, I can swipe up go to Uber in

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<v Speaker 4>less than a second, saying the words move from signal

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<v Speaker 4>to the Uber app. Takes a whole lot longer than

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<v Speaker 4>just doing it with my thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>I also do love the idea of like completely ruining

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<v Speaker 1>the point of signal, which is an encrypted, extremely secure

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<v Speaker 1>messaging app, to be like, hey, random box, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to feed my private messages through you and have you

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<v Speaker 1>read them out to me as I go about my day.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what your data retention policy is or

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<v Speaker 1>what you'll be doing with it.

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<v Speaker 3>They sold down and they made two million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Like ten million of them ten thousand.

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<v Speaker 2>Sorry, it's just and it's I've read. I read like

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<v Speaker 2>eleven articles about this thing, because I occasionally drive myself

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<v Speaker 2>insane with these things when I see everyone excited about something,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't read a single article that tells me

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<v Speaker 2>why I should buy it, even though my rap brain says, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>take with screen I want, but then I want to

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<v Speaker 2>use it.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'll have to explain this to.

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<v Speaker 2>The normal people in my life why I have this,

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't want to do that if it's useless.

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<v Speaker 2>But on top of that, I just don't think controlling

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<v Speaker 2>my life with voice is that useful.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I don't like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already and I think a lot of people are

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<v Speaker 1>already kind of fed up with the extent to which

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<v Speaker 1>my smartphone is a part of my life. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>like it does irreplaceable tasks at the moment for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So I have it this thing is number one, adding

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<v Speaker 1>a device because I think it does require your phone.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also, like you know, in addition to the

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<v Speaker 1>current problems I have with privacy on my smartphone, I

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<v Speaker 1>am adding another company and another device and another set

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<v Speaker 1>of security potential security flaws to it.

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<v Speaker 2>But on top of that, the thing they have failed

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<v Speaker 2>to explain anywhere no jealous apparently is interrogate them about

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<v Speaker 2>this is they claim this thing can log onto your

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<v Speaker 2>Uber and make a flight booking, ostensibly having your passport information,

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<v Speaker 2>your date of birth, and all this stuff. First and foremost, that's,

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<v Speaker 2>like you mentioned, the data retention policy is very strange.

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<v Speaker 2>But where is this crap all happening? Is it happening

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<v Speaker 2>on my phone? Is my phone just doing all this?

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<v Speaker 2>I refuse to believe that. So you're doing this in

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<v Speaker 2>the kind of virtual machine environment. How is that possible?

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<v Speaker 2>Surely these companies are going to have a problem with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Mark Sullivan for Fast Company. Actually, I think ask them

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<v Speaker 2>this and they were like, oh, yeah, they'll be fine

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<v Speaker 2>with it. They just want people using their apps. I

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<v Speaker 2>do not think they're going to be fine with this.

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<v Speaker 2>Companies hate it when they hand off power from the user,

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<v Speaker 2>who will still be liable to another computer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, the other thing is just that, like part

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<v Speaker 1>of me kind of suspects And when you watch the video,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll play a clip from it in a second. The

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<v Speaker 1>CEO of Rabbit very clearly, like a lot of guys

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<v Speaker 1>in tech, wants to be Steve Jobs. And I will

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<v Speaker 1>say one thing I kind of suspect that might actually

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<v Speaker 1>be that would be a Steve Jobs move, is he

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<v Speaker 1>may have just been hoping that this thing coming out

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<v Speaker 1>selling a shitload on free order and getting huge buzz

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<v Speaker 1>would force these companies after the fact to allow integration.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he may just be gambling, like if I get

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<v Speaker 1>enough buzz behind me, Uber and whatnot will come to

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<v Speaker 1>the table and be willing to work with me, because

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<v Speaker 1>suddenly this is like the Hippus new gadget.

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<v Speaker 2>Except ten thousand customers is actually not that many. And

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<v Speaker 2>I actually look forward to I really can't wait for

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<v Speaker 2>two months to pass people to get this and someone

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<v Speaker 2>to end up like sending the word penis to their

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<v Speaker 2>or company slack because they wanted to order pizza, and

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<v Speaker 2>on top of that, ordering a fly, ordering an uber.

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<v Speaker 2>These are actually really nuanced actions. Coming to mandelay, baitenit

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<v Speaker 2>Uber took me to the wrong place because it decided

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<v Speaker 2>it wanted to go to the convention center. I did

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<v Speaker 2>not select that. If you go to the airport, you

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<v Speaker 2>need to put in Southwest Airlines and what have you.

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<v Speaker 2>With grub hub, you need to do little bits. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just most people don't order lunch. They order something for lunch,

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<v Speaker 2>and I just don't. Ah, this whole thing just feels useless.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. See, for me, it's the additional level of abstraction

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<v Speaker 5>on top of these already abstracted apps that we use

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<v Speaker 5>to order our basic necessities like eating and things like that.

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<v Speaker 5>It worries me in sort of like a fantasy dystopic way.

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<v Speaker 5>What happens when people suddenly don't use that after getting

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<v Speaker 5>used to using it, Like what are they going to know?

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<v Speaker 5>Are they going to know how to operate a door

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<v Speaker 5>dash app? Are they going to know how to book

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<v Speaker 5>a flight? That kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is kind of because one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>there was a c neet review that said, like, well,

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<v Speaker 1>the potential of this is that it completely removes physical

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<v Speaker 1>use of a device. So you're using these apps, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're just a part of your life. Uber's just a

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<v Speaker 1>thing you talk to. You never look at anything when

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<v Speaker 1>you do it, And like, is that better? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like the idea that you basically have a robot

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<v Speaker 1>that you treat as like your nanny that plans your

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<v Speaker 1>life for you. Like the amount of hype over there

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<v Speaker 1>will be a more concerted piece about this coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>But the first thing I thought when I looked at

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<v Speaker 1>all these guys talking about how cool it was to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to just tell a robot to book your

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<v Speaker 1>flight and plan your travel and book your hotels for you.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like part of the experience of traveling, and like

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<v Speaker 1>choosing things to do is like one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that traveling is, and the desire so many people have

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<v Speaker 1>to hand off elements of choice really reminds me of

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<v Speaker 1>like cult dynamics, And I don't think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>consumer thing. I think this is specifically a weird subculture

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<v Speaker 1>of tech people of AI people, a lot of the

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<v Speaker 1>same folks who got into NFTs. But this desire, like

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<v Speaker 1>life is so complex and scary, I want to hand

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<v Speaker 1>over all of my agency to a robot. It's the

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<v Speaker 1>same thing that is behind a lot of like why

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<v Speaker 1>people join cults. And I don't think this is a

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<v Speaker 1>pro societal problem, but I think it is a weird

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<v Speaker 1>problem with the group of people who are most excited

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<v Speaker 1>to have a fucking rabbit.

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<v Speaker 5>It seems like a sad thing to me that folks

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<v Speaker 5>might only attend bars or restaurants that are rated like

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<v Speaker 5>four point five and above that's decided by something else. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 5>and they don't get to have this like experience of

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<v Speaker 5>walking into like the sedious bar you've ever seen in

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<v Speaker 5>your life and have like maybe possibly like a life

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<v Speaker 5>changing experience.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just in South Korea and we went to

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<v Speaker 2>this fried chicken place that ended up being close actually

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<v Speaker 2>was like we opened, but nobody was there, which made

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<v Speaker 2>me just want to leave before getting killed. And so

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<v Speaker 2>I just went to a random chicken place across the

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<v Speaker 2>road from my hotel, and I thought, well, it'll feed me.

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<v Speaker 2>It was wonderful, it was delightful.

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<v Speaker 3>And it was I could not find any reviews for it.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just a flipping place, and I don't I

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<v Speaker 2>think these people who were desperate for a device like this,

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<v Speaker 2>this kind of weird nanny device. First of all, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think they think about the practicalities of this. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't think this is quicker or easier or better. But

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<v Speaker 2>also they're like, oh, I wish I could just say

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<v Speaker 2>one thing and all of these things could happen for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Same people, by the way, who were saying that people

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<v Speaker 2>need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and do

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<v Speaker 2>things for themselves. It's just I don't know if they'd

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<v Speaker 2>even call it the stopian. It's just weird and sad

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<v Speaker 2>to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of weird and sad, We're going to move on

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<v Speaker 1>to the next product in a second, but first I

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<v Speaker 1>gotta play everybody, in case you haven't seen it or

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<v Speaker 1>heard it, the CEO of Rabbit trying to rickroll the

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<v Speaker 1>audience with his Hell device. Have you seen this, Garrison? Oh? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>eyes on the screen. Everybody to activate the eye, just

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<v Speaker 1>double tap the button. Oh funny seeing you here, Rick.

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<v Speaker 6>Let me take a look. You're never gonna give you up.

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<v Speaker 6>Enjoy it?

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<v Speaker 3>What am I getting rickrolled?

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<v Speaker 2>In my own?

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<v Speaker 3>Kenots. Let's move on to the next one.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, I have a question real quick. So what

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<v Speaker 2>is the functionality he just activated? Is it that you

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<v Speaker 2>just put you point the eye at something and it

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<v Speaker 2>chooses an Actually the.

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<v Speaker 1>I automatically see Rick Astley and choose to play one

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<v Speaker 1>specific song of his, Because that actually doesn't seem like

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<v Speaker 1>a feature. That seems like a bug.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that seems like what happens if it sees certain people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Jeffrey Epstein, Yeah, what happens if it sees Jeffrey Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>plays children screaming like what is how is this thing work?

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<v Speaker 2>Booking trips to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>I maybe it's respectable that they showed how bad the

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<v Speaker 1>lag is because that moment where there's quiet after he

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<v Speaker 1>like clicks on, it is like it's loading, it's processing

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<v Speaker 1>for a considerable period of time, and.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just Also I feel for the bloke because I

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<v Speaker 2>know he was probably so excited to do this and

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<v Speaker 2>he's like, I'm going to be Steve Jobs. But man,

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<v Speaker 2>when you can't perform, you don't perform, Like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's bad delivery.

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<v Speaker 2>The did I just get Rick Rold in my own video?

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<v Speaker 2>It was like that I forget what the movie's Oh

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<v Speaker 2>hi mock.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is and obviously like English is the reverse language,

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<v Speaker 1>but like it's a performance. You like you practice, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you get coached and stuff because you're trying to represent

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<v Speaker 1>your company.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I tell you this from experiences I've run a

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<v Speaker 2>the off. Yeah, that guy actually did practice because all

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<v Speaker 2>of that was He's actual timing wasn't bad. He just

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<v Speaker 2>does not have that dog in him.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, you bring in other people to do like that. Anyway, everybody, anyone,

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<v Speaker 1>anyone's mind on the rabbit changed having seen that. Absolutely

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<v Speaker 1>not Garrison has a look on their face.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's just like what I've always wanted in a

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<v Speaker 4>tech gadget is be able to point at three to

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<v Speaker 4>sixty five degree camera at a picture of a musician

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<v Speaker 4>and then wait thirty seconds and then have an AI

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<v Speaker 4>pick a random song of theirs. That's always what I

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<v Speaker 4>wanted for the future.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, that's that's the dream of fucking Archimedes had.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>It was when he was building his laser that we

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<v Speaker 1>all saw in the most recent Indiana Jones film. Speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of the most recent Indiana Jones film, this podcast is

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<v Speaker 1>entirely sponsored by that movie. So here's some other ads.

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<v Speaker 4>Why are we giving free advertising to Disney.

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<v Speaker 3>Why are we.

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<v Speaker 1>Why because that movie was so close to being worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>That last twenty minutested no Nazis machine gunning Roman legionnaires

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<v Speaker 1>pretty funny.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, do you know who would have loved the s

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<v Speaker 4>our Comedies? Probably? Yes, he probably would have would have

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<v Speaker 4>had a great time. What what Nextarrison? The product do

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<v Speaker 4>we want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 1>How about the pet one? Garrison? You saw that?

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<v Speaker 4>All right? So I think I think I think me

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<v Speaker 4>and Ed saw chat GPT for animals.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, damn it.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is not really what it is saying. It's like

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<v Speaker 4>it scans a picture of your dog and then tries

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you if it has any health problem. It's

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<v Speaker 4>based on that picture. It's it's. It's You're not You're

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<v Speaker 4>not actually talking to your dog or anything. It just

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<v Speaker 4>it takes pictures of animals and then it analyzes it

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<v Speaker 4>to tell you how the dog is feeling. Blah blah

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<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah. It's it's. I saw a product like

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<v Speaker 4>this earlier at CES. I saw a product. I saw

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<v Speaker 4>a product like this last year. They're just calling it

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<v Speaker 4>chat GPT because it's an AI name. It's it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>it's it's.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hip like because people people, they're hoping that that

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<v Speaker 1>will make people spend money up.

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<v Speaker 2>It was every ces I see something that begins to

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<v Speaker 2>make me disassociate and I walk I walked past there

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<v Speaker 2>and Blovo the chat GPT for and my brain was

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<v Speaker 2>just like, could she just like start like glitching out?

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<v Speaker 2>And then when I went to look it up as

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<v Speaker 2>Garrison did, I was so disappointed because I hope that

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<v Speaker 2>these would just crackpots are like, yep, you put the

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<v Speaker 2>microphone to your dog. Now you know your dog's saying

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<v Speaker 2>that I would respect even if it didn't work, just

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<v Speaker 2>if you're like, yeah, fuck it. Yeah, your cat's said

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<v Speaker 2>he hates here. Your cat's been radicalized them Afraight.

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<v Speaker 1>See, there's a fun product in here, which is you

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<v Speaker 1>sell to Rubes and a product that you're like it

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<v Speaker 1>translates your dog's micro expressions into language. And then the

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<v Speaker 1>actual paying customers are sickos like us, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>take control of somebody's pets voice.

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<v Speaker 4>That would be so cool.

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<v Speaker 1>You can have their like yeah, your cat's racist, now

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<v Speaker 1>your dog's are Nazi like.

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<v Speaker 4>This is this is the perfect product for HP. Lovecraft

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<v Speaker 4>would have loved this.

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<v Speaker 2>No, if you gave me like the show light to me,

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<v Speaker 2>but for dogs on my phone, I would spend whatever

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<v Speaker 2>you want A thousand dollars, I will geah.

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't pay like average West Coast rent prices to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to like gaslight some family into thinking their

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<v Speaker 1>dog is a terrorist.

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<v Speaker 2>See a friend of mine, Oh, what's what's wrong? Ed

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<v Speaker 2>chat GPT said the I said that my dogs joined

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<v Speaker 2>ISIS and I don't know. I don't know how he

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<v Speaker 2>did it, but he's been He's talking about a caliphate

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<v Speaker 2>according to the app. I don't know what this app

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<v Speaker 2>is bankrupting me. I paid four and a half thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars for this app a month.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why I need it.

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<v Speaker 4>So because so I unfortunately had to miss yesterday. So

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<v Speaker 4>there was probably an endless number of tech innovations that

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<v Speaker 4>I was unable to see because I had to miss

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<v Speaker 4>one day. But with the help of penicil and I

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<v Speaker 4>was able to return today to do one final.

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<v Speaker 1>Chat GPT of antibiotics.

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<v Speaker 4>That's that is exactly what my doctor said. Actually, but

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<v Speaker 4>I did. I did swear revenge on cees. So I

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<v Speaker 4>just walked around most mostly mostly the Venetian just seeing

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<v Speaker 4>all of the worst things I could find in documenting

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<v Speaker 4>them so I could get revenge from that twink poisoning

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<v Speaker 4>me with strap throat. So the first really good thing

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<v Speaker 4>is this. I mostly walked around the award winning sections

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<v Speaker 4>because that's where you find only the best. There was

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<v Speaker 4>an award winning speaker called Audio Cu that all of

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<v Speaker 4>their marketing was built from this horrible, horrible uh Ai

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<v Speaker 4>image generation of this like extremely busty blonde woman in

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<v Speaker 4>a latex suit, but if you zoom it onto her fingernails,

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<v Speaker 4>her her fingernails are like sticking through the wrong side

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<v Speaker 4>of her fingers.

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<v Speaker 3>There, my god, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the woman's from that one movie for oh damn it,

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<v Speaker 2>not skin the one. The other it was the woman

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<v Speaker 2>where the alien was sexy and then she killed people

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<v Speaker 2>when she had sex with them. It's the same thing, Yes, terrifying. Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>rita's cool in and say what that is?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it looks just like that. It says relaxed, stick

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<v Speaker 4>it in, which is pretty funny. So that that was

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<v Speaker 4>pretty bad.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I respect that. I respect That's that's a baller

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<v Speaker 1>move right there.

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<v Speaker 4>Again. This is this is for a speaker company like.

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<v Speaker 5>DJ Girlfriend in the shape it's a speaker in the

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<v Speaker 5>shape of a girlfriend.

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<v Speaker 4>No, it's just home theater speakers.

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<v Speaker 1>It just have a horrible AI generated woman as their spokesperson.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean I would buy it if it was DJ Girlfriend. Though.

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<v Speaker 1>DJ Girlfriend is a great idea for a product and

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<v Speaker 1>might stop several shows.

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<v Speaker 3>AI has brought back sexism.

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<v Speaker 1>If you do DJ girlfriend right, you could stop at

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<v Speaker 1>least one mass shooting.

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<v Speaker 5>Finally, we have a real solution now.

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<v Speaker 4>Another product that won the CEES twenty twenty four Innovation

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<v Speaker 4>Awards is an AI powered coffee brewer and grinder system.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just gonna read the description from Coffee's been missing,

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<v Speaker 4>That's right. I know we wake up every morning make

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<v Speaker 4>our little French press coffee. That's fine. But you know

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<v Speaker 4>what could be better? An AI system that does it

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<v Speaker 4>for you. I'm going to read the award the award

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<v Speaker 4>description for this product. Okay, introducing Barista Brew Coffee Brewer

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<v Speaker 4>and Grinders System, a smart coffee system that tailors your

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<v Speaker 4>brew to perfection with AI guided personalization. Easily adjust brewing

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<v Speaker 4>parameters for a custom cup. New expertise needed rate to

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<v Speaker 4>track and refine your bruise brew iq AI suggestions for

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<v Speaker 4>your ideal taste, simplify with one touch favorites, elevate your

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<v Speaker 4>coffee experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, I hear all that. The one thing I

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<v Speaker 2>think is simplify. That's that's simple. The Movie's Spacies, by

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<v Speaker 2>the way, I.

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<v Speaker 4>Love that movie. One of one of one of the

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<v Speaker 4>best hr Geiger art utilizations.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, and easily the horniest movie of the nineteen nineties.

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<v Speaker 1>Like this, which is a lot of.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is which is a high high bar, so on on.

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<v Speaker 4>On this AI coffee maker on the front, there's a

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<v Speaker 4>little control panel with nine different settings that you can

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<v Speaker 4>you can change because they're all in a graph. We

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<v Speaker 4>have we have citrus, spice, nutty, fruity, balanced, cocoa, floral, herbal,

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<v Speaker 4>and honey. So you can you can with your with

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<v Speaker 4>the with the ease of a touchpad, start to customize

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<v Speaker 4>your own AI coffee. So that that is revolutionary. I'm

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<v Speaker 4>going to be getting one for Robert this Christmas.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Garrison. I know I've always thought, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what I hate is the experience of exploring new flavors

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<v Speaker 1>on my own and learning new ways of brewing coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>a beverage I consume every day. So I'm glad to

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<v Speaker 1>be handing that whole experience off to a machine.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, And I know a lot of people used.

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<v Speaker 1>Tavia just brought something up that I think is relevant here.

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<v Speaker 5>It's a Guardian article about an AI smoothie shop that

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<v Speaker 5>opened in San Francisco well before ce S. That is

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<v Speaker 5>a combination of uh it's being driven forward with AI

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<v Speaker 5>technology as well as five G stuff that I think

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<v Speaker 5>had opened up and then like three weeks later had

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<v Speaker 5>shut down.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's too They were like, a robot will pick

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<v Speaker 1>the perfect smoothie for you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I actually want to bring work. I want to

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<v Speaker 2>bring something up. So I love smoking me I pelosmokers

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<v Speaker 2>at home. And I saw a few times on this

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<v Speaker 2>show AI grills and I just looked up one called

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<v Speaker 2>a brisk It smart grill, and I was like, how

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<v Speaker 2>could you possibly make a thing which is basically maintaining

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<v Speaker 2>hot air in a tube long enough until the food's done?

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<v Speaker 2>And what it is is it has a thing. You

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<v Speaker 2>can ask the grill what seasoning should I add to

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<v Speaker 2>make my chicken skew a spicy or how do I

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<v Speaker 2>see a medium rest eak? I don't fucking know. Why

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<v Speaker 2>don't you learn to cook.

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<v Speaker 1>You twat, it's just like.

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<v Speaker 2>The enjoyable part of cooking is the experimentation and learning taste.

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<v Speaker 2>But no, thank you, just like that goddamn coffee thing. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to learn anything. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>have a human experience.

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<v Speaker 5>That's the thing with a lot of these AI solutions,

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<v Speaker 5>will call them, is I feel like they're robbing people

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<v Speaker 5>of real experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for like no bit, Like there's some stuff that like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the ability of a smartphone to once you

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<v Speaker 1>had to be like in a building in order to

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<v Speaker 1>like access a phone or like use a payphone. Now

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you can connect with people everywhere. That's that's a clear benefit, right,

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:07.920
<v Speaker 1>there's downsides to it, obviously, but it's a clear benefit.

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<v Speaker 1>But like now you don't have to learn. Now, now

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<v Speaker 1>you don't have to cook. You can let a robot

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<v Speaker 1>do it for you. It's like, well, but why cooking

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<v Speaker 1>is pleasurable? And if I don't want to cook, I

0:25:20.000 --> 0:25:22.480
<v Speaker 1>will go to a restaurant or order food, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>cheaper than buying several thousand dollars AI device.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, some things are hard to learn, which brings

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<v Speaker 4>me to the next product.

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<v Speaker 3>That's smoking me.

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<v Speaker 1>But hard word.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of like like like.

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<v Speaker 7>Parenting, right, so good, okay, nice, you know what, Garrison,

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<v Speaker 7>I'm proud of you. That was a good SEXUA so

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<v Speaker 7>AI parenting, especially with your infant child. This was also

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<v Speaker 7>in the CEES Awards section, so you know it's going

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<v Speaker 7>to be legit. I was able to see an demonstration

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<v Speaker 7>of an AI baby crib that will shake your baby

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<v Speaker 7>up and down based on facial expression analysis done by

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<v Speaker 7>an AI.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what you do is I'm gonna show you

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<v Speaker 4>show it here. So here is the cutting edge facial

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<v Speaker 4>expressions we have anger discussed fear, happiness, sadness, and surprise,

0:26:09.320 --> 0:26:13.520
<v Speaker 4>and that basically that data will go into this little

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<v Speaker 4>crib which will start shaking and moving up and down

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<v Speaker 4>based on what they skin on your baby's face.

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<v Speaker 2>So to be clear, there is a product snow that

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<v Speaker 2>exists where it drop my phone there. There's a product

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<v Speaker 2>called the Snow which is like a for infants and

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<v Speaker 2>it notices when they're fussing and it kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>lightly rocks them, but the way it rocks them is

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<v Speaker 2>so very light. It is very much a This is

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<v Speaker 2>this is what a mother would do with a brand

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<v Speaker 2>new baby, freshly baked. You don't want to move into much.

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<v Speaker 2>That one has like six pictures from the intro of

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<v Speaker 2>light to me and a heart rate monitor, and it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>hand over your baby to AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Great.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this product looks like a baby Morocca the pace

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<v Speaker 5>that you've shaken it, which is dependent on what pretty

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<v Speaker 5>much you make pretty much.

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<v Speaker 4>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it also because like a real scandal I

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<v Speaker 1>think from the I think it was in the eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>is like Nanny's shaking babies to death, like the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that like again a machine that can only go at

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<v Speaker 1>a certain pace that's very light.

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<v Speaker 8>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I get that's a labor stave, especially for like a

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<v Speaker 1>single parent or whatnot. Like you know, some some people

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<v Speaker 1>will need that. But I just worry. I worry that

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<v Speaker 1>we're not all that far from our first and AI

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<v Speaker 1>killed my baby.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I think I think that. I I think

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<v Speaker 4>the real beauty of this product is usually when you

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<v Speaker 4>have a newber, maybe you have to like watch it

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<v Speaker 4>all night becas it'll wake up, you have to like

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<v Speaker 4>pick it up, pat it, make sure it gets back

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<v Speaker 4>to sleep. You can just leave that baby in the bed.

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<v Speaker 4>You can you can like go to the club. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>just leave the baby in the bed. If it starts crying,

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<v Speaker 4>don't worry. The AI will take the will take over.

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<v Speaker 1>We are on the verge of beds that can raise

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<v Speaker 1>our children, just like the Venture Brothers.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right, and and those and those kids turned out fine,

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<v Speaker 4>they turned out great, perfect, But I think luckily, luckily

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<v Speaker 4>for you, because I know none of us are babies anymore.

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:10.399
<v Speaker 4>But we are all you know, eventually going to get old, hopefully, hopefully,

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<v Speaker 4>And there is air products that will also assist us

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<v Speaker 4>as we get older using the same AI baby tech.

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<v Speaker 3>Here.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the one of the one of the places

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<v Speaker 4>that me and Robert stopped by was called Blue Sky AI.

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<v Speaker 4>It's spelled ridiculously offensively, and they refused to do an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>They were not happy.

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<v Speaker 4>But I was able to get a pamphlet and they

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<v Speaker 4>have an AI that I think they're mostly targeted to

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<v Speaker 4>get at like older people. But quote by comparing the

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<v Speaker 4>way your facial and vocal behavior changes over time, using

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<v Speaker 4>your facial expressions, facial muscle actions, as well as where

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:49.880
<v Speaker 4>you are looking, your body posts, and the tone of

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<v Speaker 4>your voice, we have the potential to identify and monitor

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<v Speaker 4>all kinds of medical conditions that manifest in the face

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<v Speaker 4>or voice, So it's it's a facial scanning and voice

0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:02.320
<v Speaker 4>scanning uses AI to try to diagnose you with medical

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<v Speaker 4>conditions specific specifically, the guy told us that it's it's

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<v Speaker 4>useful for Alzheimer's. Then he realized we were journalists and

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<v Speaker 4>the nasses to go away.

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<v Speaker 1>It also, but yeah, that's how you know you've got

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<v Speaker 1>a good medical device.

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<v Speaker 4>A good product. At CES Blue Sky uses a continuous

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<v Speaker 4>approach apparent valiance and arousal to measure to measure expressed emotion.

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<v Speaker 4>This better fits the real human experience of emotional states.

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:34.680
<v Speaker 4>This approach allows emotion regions to be defined and to

0:29:34.680 --> 0:29:38.040
<v Speaker 4>measure the transitions away from and towards these regions. This

0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:41.000
<v Speaker 4>continuous approach, where appropriate, can be mapped back to a

0:29:41.040 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 4>much less exact categorical representation. For example, excited, calm or angry?

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<v Speaker 5>Did he have horny?

0:29:48.160 --> 0:29:50.440
<v Speaker 4>They do not have horny, not that I can see.

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<v Speaker 1>Look, if you know old people, one thing they never

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<v Speaker 1>stop doing is fun.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, they do have a list of all human emotions

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 4>here that char you turn it on a map. Finally

0:30:02.200 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 4>that using AI, we can finally figure out what emotions

0:30:05.440 --> 0:30:07.800
<v Speaker 4>you're feeling based on your face, so you can use

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<v Speaker 4>this just with your with your phone camera, with your

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:13.760
<v Speaker 4>with your iPad camera. They do data collection, data analysis.

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<v Speaker 4>One of the weird use cases that we saw was,

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<v Speaker 4>I know we saw something similar to this already, but

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<v Speaker 4>just scanning your face when driving to tell you how

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<v Speaker 4>you're feeling, which is just quite fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's a I could talk about that a second.

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<v Speaker 1>What this reminds me of there was a product a

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<v Speaker 1>few years ago. It was like a robot for the military,

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<v Speaker 1>and the idea was this robot can run in dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>situations and pick up troops that have been injured and

0:30:36.480 --> 0:30:38.600
<v Speaker 1>run them out, which is probably a thing that will

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<v Speaker 1>exist at some point and might even save lives. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>I can see how that would be a useful thing

0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>in the military can be very dangerous to retrieve people.

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<v Speaker 1>Much better for a robot to get shot or blown

0:30:46.960 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>up in that situation than another person. But to try

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<v Speaker 1>and comfort the soldiers, they gave the robot the head

0:30:53.600 --> 0:30:56.560
<v Speaker 1>of a Teddy Bear, like a metal Teddy Bear head.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like a fucking nightmare. It's just like, what

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<v Speaker 1>what do you think did you talk to There's all

0:31:04.440 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 1>sorts of guys who have been shot in combat. Did

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:08.800
<v Speaker 1>you talk to one of them? Did you go with

0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the experience of having your arm blown off? Corporal have

0:31:12.040 --> 0:31:15.640
<v Speaker 1>been more pleasurable if a giant metal teddy bear it.

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<v Speaker 2>So my first job was working on the characters and

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:23.440
<v Speaker 2>twisted metal, but then I moved into robotics. It's so

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<v Speaker 2>cool that how many of these products are very clearly made, funded, prototyped,

0:31:28.440 --> 0:31:31.600
<v Speaker 2>r and D, hired PR teams. Everyone's done these big

0:31:31.640 --> 0:31:34.320
<v Speaker 2>presentations without talking to a single fucking human being.

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<v Speaker 3>It's so cool.

0:31:35.920 --> 0:31:38.400
<v Speaker 2>It's so cool how much waste there is at this

0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:42.240
<v Speaker 2>show where not a single human soul there is a

0:31:42.280 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 2>completely different subject. There was like an AI powered nail

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.440
<v Speaker 2>salon thing as well. I saw, and I'm like, that's

0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:52.600
<v Speaker 2>definitely one where you didn't talk to talk to any

0:31:52.640 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 2>woman though. Yeah, first and foremost in my experience, one

0:32:00.280 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 2>is scared of a new nail place for fucking up

0:32:02.320 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 2>their hands. So are they going to spend eight hundred

0:32:05.200 --> 0:32:07.880
<v Speaker 2>goddamn dollars on this thing to maybe get burned? And

0:32:07.920 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 2>I saw in this article about it just now that

0:32:10.520 --> 0:32:12.400
<v Speaker 2>their thing they said was, oh, yeah, it's like an

0:32:12.480 --> 0:32:16.280
<v Speaker 2>espresso at home. I've had an espressos break multiple times,

0:32:16.960 --> 0:32:18.920
<v Speaker 2>and I realized it may sound weird. How can you

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 2>break an espresso? I'm just built different.

0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 1>But if I can break it in just like me

0:32:23.160 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 1>and strep throat, unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>So I do have one more product, and then I'm and.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, first, Garrison, I know you have one more product,

0:32:32.960 --> 0:32:47.360
<v Speaker 1>but we also have one more ad break. Ah, we're back, Garrison.

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 1>What's your next product?

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<v Speaker 4>So we already talked about the Handy, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 4>like sure did, which is by all accounts actually like

0:32:56.840 --> 0:32:57.760
<v Speaker 4>works as intended.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a good product. The people, the PR people, and

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.320
<v Speaker 1>we talked to the CEO. We're not just knowledgeable, but

0:33:03.520 --> 0:33:07.000
<v Speaker 1>like remarkably good at keeping a straight face while talking

0:33:07.040 --> 0:33:10.240
<v Speaker 1>about their jack Well, that's professionalism. You have to respect it.

0:33:10.600 --> 0:33:13.200
<v Speaker 5>Honestly, that was the most professional booth I saw the

0:33:13.360 --> 0:33:15.640
<v Speaker 5>entirety of cees. They were really on point.

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<v Speaker 1>If you are looking for a jack off machine, I

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>can't recommend anything more highly.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, Robert, except for our next product, which is an

0:33:24.080 --> 0:33:26.280
<v Speaker 4>AI power to jack off machine.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank god.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is called my Hixel. It is the first

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<v Speaker 4>it's the first app.

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<v Speaker 1>That's an appealing names that's a name that sounds like sex.

0:33:37.800 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 4>It is the first app for climax Control to incorporate AI.

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<v Speaker 4>Now I'm gonna I'm gonna read through their.

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<v Speaker 5>Really redefines edge technology. Huh.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make a note before you get into it.

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:53.400
<v Speaker 1>The thing that they're claiming this is useful for. There

0:33:53.400 --> 0:33:56.000
<v Speaker 1>are devices for and it is a real use case,

0:33:56.000 --> 0:33:59.200
<v Speaker 1>which is that like premature ejaculation, this is a serious

0:33:59.240 --> 0:34:01.080
<v Speaker 1>problem for a lot of it. It's like a quality

0:34:01.080 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of life issue, right, like it stops people from feeling confident.

0:34:04.960 --> 0:34:08.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a serious problem. There are prosthetic devices people can

0:34:08.680 --> 0:34:13.440
<v Speaker 1>use to train themselves. That's fine, they already exist. This

0:34:13.600 --> 0:34:16.120
<v Speaker 1>is basically like what if an AI could teach you

0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 1>how to come slower?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, and we have a six step layout here describing

0:34:23.480 --> 0:34:27.080
<v Speaker 4>why why my hixel is right for you. For the

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 4>first step is secure and anonymonized data collection, so you

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.080
<v Speaker 4>can get o good all of your coming data stored,

0:34:35.200 --> 0:34:36.800
<v Speaker 4>but don't worry, it's secure.

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<v Speaker 8>See.

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<v Speaker 1>My first question to that is why is data on

0:34:39.640 --> 0:34:42.240
<v Speaker 1>me masturbating being collected at all?

0:34:42.400 --> 0:34:45.000
<v Speaker 4>Well, it could be because they're putting it towards an

0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:47.799
<v Speaker 4>eight week training program.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So, first and foremost, one of the first things

0:34:51.800 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>on the website for this is just the words happy

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:57.360
<v Speaker 2>sex here, save sixty dollars in my Hixel Control. But

0:34:57.520 --> 0:34:59.120
<v Speaker 2>happy sex here is going to be something I think

0:34:59.160 --> 0:35:01.719
<v Speaker 2>about for a while. But also it says it has

0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:05.720
<v Speaker 2>my Hixel Care and my Hixel Control, two different things,

0:35:05.719 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>and then my hicksl Academy, and sadly you can't click

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.680
<v Speaker 2>on that because I've never wanted to know more about

0:35:11.040 --> 0:35:13.160
<v Speaker 2>what how much material could that be?

0:35:14.080 --> 0:35:16.160
<v Speaker 5>Unless a masturbation academy.

0:35:16.680 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought they just called that eton. I was

0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:19.960
<v Speaker 1>a British public school joke.

0:35:20.239 --> 0:35:22.400
<v Speaker 5>It's okay, I made an edging joke earlier and nobody

0:35:22.480 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 5>caught it.

0:35:23.840 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:35:24.280 --> 0:35:27.400
<v Speaker 2>I there's one thing the eating boys do and they

0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:28.400
<v Speaker 2>don't have sex.

0:35:29.120 --> 0:35:30.000
<v Speaker 1>No masturbation.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 3>Sorry.

0:35:32.680 --> 0:35:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Part of what I hate about this is its name

0:35:34.920 --> 0:35:37.719
<v Speaker 1>is so clearly like trying to be respectful and like

0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:40.840
<v Speaker 1>respectable and a tech product name as opposed to like

0:35:40.880 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>one of the things that I respect about the Handy

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:45.240
<v Speaker 1>people is they just went ahead and called it handy.

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:47.680
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's weird because like some of their some

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:51.080
<v Speaker 4>of their free merch were labeled with stuff like download

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 4>the app to control your loads, we bring the game,

0:35:58.640 --> 0:36:03.520
<v Speaker 4>you bring the joystick. The first day you went for

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.280
<v Speaker 4>a run, you couldn't last more than three minutes either.

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 4>So it's weird how they Yeah, I had this very

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:13.680
<v Speaker 4>like sanitized branding except for their like free merch but yeah,

0:36:13.719 --> 0:36:17.040
<v Speaker 4>it has. It has Bluetooth connection, interactive and personalized settings.

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:20.319
<v Speaker 4>You can monitor your user evolution, and it is it

0:36:20.400 --> 0:36:23.439
<v Speaker 4>is marked as a medical device. But on on their

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:28.080
<v Speaker 4>brochure there's just two really really good sentences. There's video

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.160
<v Speaker 4>feedback from our sexual health professionals. So after you come,

0:36:31.480 --> 0:36:34.200
<v Speaker 4>you can get on a video chat and talk about

0:36:34.200 --> 0:36:37.200
<v Speaker 4>there we go, there we go looking good.

0:36:37.840 --> 0:36:41.239
<v Speaker 5>It's the pillow talking. Add on, I'd.

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<v Speaker 2>Love to be one of those people as a gun man.

0:36:43.560 --> 0:36:45.800
<v Speaker 2>Three minutes. You can do better than that. Come on,

0:36:46.040 --> 0:36:47.640
<v Speaker 2>So they are you meant to encourage them?

0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:48.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:36:48.440 --> 0:36:48.640
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:36:48.840 --> 0:36:50.600
<v Speaker 3>Are you meant to commiserate with them? Yeah?

0:36:50.640 --> 0:36:52.160
<v Speaker 1>What is the goal here?

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:52.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.239
<v Speaker 2>But also I cannot think of a single person i'd

0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:56.320
<v Speaker 2>want to talk about that with.

0:36:56.760 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm just imagining like the guy in the other

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:00.799
<v Speaker 1>and be like no, no, no, no, zoom me the camera

0:37:00.800 --> 0:37:02.600
<v Speaker 1>a little more. I want to see those ropes. No,

0:37:02.920 --> 0:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>that's not bad, that's not bad. Good consistency.

0:37:05.080 --> 0:37:07.160
<v Speaker 5>Okay, let's move that over. Let's see his O face again.

0:37:07.239 --> 0:37:10.840
<v Speaker 3>Wow, you play that, my friend? That your load management

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:11.920
<v Speaker 3>is very consistent.

0:37:14.840 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 4>And I think I think we're really missing is how

0:37:18.680 --> 0:37:21.359
<v Speaker 4>much how much AI will assist in this because they

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 4>claim that using cutting edge technology? Eh eh my hixel

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:29.480
<v Speaker 4>Control is the first solution to include AI and machine

0:37:29.560 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 4>learning for climax controlled treatment, which is just really really reassuring.

0:37:34.960 --> 0:37:37.080
<v Speaker 4>So yeah, it basically looks like a flashlight that connects

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:42.920
<v Speaker 4>to your phone and it's an app with anatomical realistic

0:37:42.920 --> 0:37:47.840
<v Speaker 4>interior design and AI and secured it and and adanemonized data.

0:37:47.960 --> 0:37:49.480
<v Speaker 5>I think this is really going to open up some

0:37:49.520 --> 0:37:50.840
<v Speaker 5>avenues for sex workers.

0:37:51.600 --> 0:37:54.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, hope, hopefully, hopefully, Tafia.

0:37:54.160 --> 0:37:57.479
<v Speaker 1>It's It's also like the design the handy is very

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:00.520
<v Speaker 1>clearly a robot. You stick your dick inside and it

0:38:00.960 --> 0:38:05.280
<v Speaker 1>jacks you off. This looks like a flesh light except

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:07.840
<v Speaker 1>the back and like the front end that we unscrewed

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the top and it's like a fake vagina looks like

0:38:09.520 --> 0:38:13.600
<v Speaker 1>a fleshlight. The back end looks like an incense diffuser,

0:38:14.080 --> 0:38:18.440
<v Speaker 1>Like like someone decided these two products needed to be

0:38:18.680 --> 0:38:22.240
<v Speaker 1>Like what if you could fuck your your aromatherapy bot.

0:38:23.680 --> 0:38:27.560
<v Speaker 4>Finally, So that is that is most of the the

0:38:27.560 --> 0:38:30.240
<v Speaker 4>the just the groundbreaking AI products that I was able

0:38:30.280 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 4>to see today. Does anyone else have any AI products

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 4>they would love to talk about?

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>It's time to talk about ganert I okayert obvious you

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.440
<v Speaker 1>want to start us off about ganert.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay I guess We attended a panel. Which panel was it, y'all?

0:38:45.160 --> 0:38:48.440
<v Speaker 8>That was the dhs AI Yeah, that was That was

0:38:48.480 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 8>the AI panel with one of the heads of the

0:38:51.000 --> 0:38:54.440
<v Speaker 8>Department of Homeland Security, who I can confirm because he

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.440
<v Speaker 8>turned around to take a selfie has a Hank Hill ass.

0:38:58.360 --> 0:38:59.640
<v Speaker 5>He was very insistent on that.

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<v Speaker 1>No but absolutely no. But and I'm saying this not

0:39:03.600 --> 0:39:06.239
<v Speaker 1>to shame him, but because there are ORTHOTICX for that

0:39:06.640 --> 0:39:10.080
<v Speaker 1>you can get help, sir. That's even a whole episode

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:14.600
<v Speaker 1>of King of the Hill, one of the better EPISODESOD times.

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<v Speaker 5>Soert AI was announced before this talk that we had,

0:39:19.960 --> 0:39:23.840
<v Speaker 5>and it was a I think the guy announcing both

0:39:24.000 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 5>this this event as well as the panel had taken

0:39:28.560 --> 0:39:30.200
<v Speaker 5>some time to really focus on the fact that this

0:39:30.360 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 5>was his quote unquote.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:34.840
<v Speaker 4>Opis his his opis opus. He said the word opus

0:39:34.920 --> 0:39:37.640
<v Speaker 4>like five times Ganert's what I'll be remembered by.

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.200
<v Speaker 5>This is my legacy. Yeah, and then I guess two

0:39:42.239 --> 0:39:44.520
<v Speaker 5>of the designers had come up who stuck out like

0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:47.200
<v Speaker 5>a sore thumb compared to like the sea of khaki

0:39:47.280 --> 0:39:48.839
<v Speaker 5>and blazers and things like that.

0:39:50.120 --> 0:39:53.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, they had clearly never ordered a drone strike,

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:55.360
<v Speaker 1>unlike our hero and Homelands security.

0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:58.120
<v Speaker 4>One of them had a wide brimmed hat that was

0:39:58.239 --> 0:40:01.040
<v Speaker 4>color matched to the Gert logo, which is pretty cool.

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<v Speaker 1>What does Genert stand for?

0:40:03.480 --> 0:40:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Ganert stands for generate, So I think it's actually just

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:12.319
<v Speaker 4>called it generate. They just took out the vowels. But

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:15.840
<v Speaker 4>this is going to be a three day event or

0:40:15.960 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 4>a conference held in Arlington, Virginia's they're claiming that it's

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<v Speaker 4>gonna have like two hundred speakers, one hundred and fifty

0:40:24.600 --> 0:40:28.320
<v Speaker 4>AI sessions, more than five hundred startups, one hundred fifty partners,

0:40:28.320 --> 0:40:32.439
<v Speaker 4>one hundred investors, and around five thousand attendees. They're trying

0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:38.600
<v Speaker 4>to target enterprise governments, platforms, AI tools, AI builders, services, investors, startups,

0:40:38.640 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 4>and media that it's it's these three events held simultaneously,

0:40:42.760 --> 0:40:47.080
<v Speaker 4>ones just called Gennert or Generate AI, which is about

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:53.120
<v Speaker 4>just AI AI tech. It's about like AI companies, classes, keynotes, funding,

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:55.760
<v Speaker 4>blah blah blah blah blah. There is then Voice and AI,

0:40:56.160 --> 0:41:00.359
<v Speaker 4>which is about AI language services. And there's also for

0:41:00.480 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 4>gov ai, which is about public sector and how the

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 4>government's gonna start integrating AI or regulating AI. And they

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 4>also have one for coding called code Forward, and it's

0:41:11.000 --> 0:41:13.359
<v Speaker 4>it's a bummer. We can't just play the opening video

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:16.680
<v Speaker 4>because opening video had no like voice here.

0:41:16.719 --> 0:41:18.880
<v Speaker 1>But there's yeah, there's no voice. I can read it though.

0:41:19.440 --> 0:41:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Ninety seven million new jobs in AI, five hundred billion

0:41:22.920 --> 0:41:25.520
<v Speaker 1>in annual AI spend by twenty twenty seven, two hundred

0:41:25.520 --> 0:41:26.840
<v Speaker 1>and fifty billion in VC.

0:41:27.360 --> 0:41:29.320
<v Speaker 3>Funding by twenty twenty five.

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:33.160
<v Speaker 1>Conert generate for a new world in a new market.

0:41:33.440 --> 0:41:37.560
<v Speaker 1>Gonert connects and forms, elevates and inspires. It all happens

0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:39.320
<v Speaker 1>at Ganerts.

0:41:39.760 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 4>And we cannot emphasize it enough. How they hyped up

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 4>VC cash there, there was there was so much build

0:41:46.800 --> 0:41:48.040
<v Speaker 4>up for VC cash.

0:41:48.239 --> 0:41:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I have I have watched people who are dope sick

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:57.200
<v Speaker 1>by heroin with less jittery excitement in their hands and eyes.

0:41:58.120 --> 0:42:00.880
<v Speaker 3>All right, So but about shit like this?

0:42:01.000 --> 0:42:03.440
<v Speaker 2>So I just did a brief cursory look up Ganert

0:42:04.040 --> 0:42:10.640
<v Speaker 2>and it's and it's it's connected, Confidence, Voice I and

0:42:10.680 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Gove and code Forward, and all of them are claiming

0:42:14.200 --> 0:42:20.480
<v Speaker 2>the following. They're featuring GitHub, Microsoft, open Ai, Codium tab nine.

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 2>Their thing on LinkedIn has twenty eight followers, and their

0:42:24.040 --> 0:42:27.640
<v Speaker 2>engagement is like when I post the word twitter on Twitter,

0:42:28.120 --> 0:42:29.879
<v Speaker 2>it's not very good at all. I can get more

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:31.520
<v Speaker 2>on that doing any of the Pocht picture of my

0:42:31.520 --> 0:42:34.000
<v Speaker 2>asshole and get more than that. But also I cannot

0:42:34.040 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 2>find a single person claiming to attend this. Despite them

0:42:38.320 --> 0:42:40.600
<v Speaker 2>claiming two hundred bus speakers, one hundred and fifty plus sessions,

0:42:40.640 --> 0:42:43.080
<v Speaker 2>five hundred stars, one hundred fifty part one hundred investors,

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:46.080
<v Speaker 2>five thousand attendees, I can't find a single bit of

0:42:46.120 --> 0:42:49.680
<v Speaker 2>evidence that anyone is ganerting around at all. And also

0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.840
<v Speaker 2>they claim to have three different conferences, code Forward, Gove, AI,

0:42:52.960 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 2>Voice AI and of course Connert AI and I, and

0:42:57.640 --> 0:43:00.520
<v Speaker 2>of course all of these are part of the AI

0:43:00.760 --> 0:43:01.840
<v Speaker 2>beta experience.

0:43:01.920 --> 0:43:03.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know why you put beta.

0:43:03.800 --> 0:43:06.640
<v Speaker 2>People are beta as hell, But also why have you

0:43:06.680 --> 0:43:08.160
<v Speaker 2>got beta on a conference?

0:43:08.239 --> 0:43:10.040
<v Speaker 3>What are you doing? But also.

0:43:11.280 --> 0:43:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Featuring open AI and video Microsoft, Google, and Verituan. I'm

0:43:14.480 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 2>gonna guess that they've got like chat, GPT, open on

0:43:17.560 --> 0:43:22.319
<v Speaker 2>a computer, an Nvidio GPU and something Microsoft Word and

0:43:22.360 --> 0:43:28.000
<v Speaker 2>they've used Google. And it's very strange because I don't

0:43:28.040 --> 0:43:29.080
<v Speaker 2>know what this thing.

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:32.160
<v Speaker 1>Is, you know. I think what it is is some

0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>guys who have a degree of like nay like like

0:43:37.160 --> 0:43:40.480
<v Speaker 1>some guys who are hoping that they don't have any

0:43:40.480 --> 0:43:42.359
<v Speaker 1>actual ideas for it to do with AI, so they're

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:44.719
<v Speaker 1>hoping that if they create a conference and make that

0:43:44.800 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>be like the Cees of AI, they can kind of

0:43:47.280 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>force a place for themselves and also attract a bunch

0:43:50.080 --> 0:43:51.239
<v Speaker 1>of suction up a bunch of money.

0:43:51.280 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 2>I also found some I found some of the speakers.

0:43:53.440 --> 0:43:56.760
<v Speaker 2>You've got fellow called Adam Goldberg, who's an account director

0:43:56.800 --> 0:43:58.880
<v Speaker 2>and head of a is your open Ai enablement on

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.200
<v Speaker 2>the go to market team open Ai. They found a

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.319
<v Speaker 2>sales guy from open ai and then said they got

0:44:03.320 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 2>someone from open Ai. They got someone from JP Morgan,

0:44:06.400 --> 0:44:10.080
<v Speaker 2>Chile's data and AI design. These are all fake jobs.

0:44:10.640 --> 0:44:14.480
<v Speaker 2>These aren't real jobs. And I think that these conferences

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:16.560
<v Speaker 2>are amazing as well, because all people do at them

0:44:16.600 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 2>is they go they watch these things where people go

0:44:18.800 --> 0:44:21.560
<v Speaker 2>up on stage and go, you know, generative AI is

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:24.760
<v Speaker 2>going to create maybe even trillions of dollars of value

0:44:24.760 --> 0:44:28.200
<v Speaker 2>at some point, and you know, the synergy between generative

0:44:28.280 --> 0:44:33.319
<v Speaker 2>AI and data collection but also data silos is going

0:44:33.400 --> 0:44:37.560
<v Speaker 2>to be truly, truly innovative. And everyone's like, holy fucking shit,

0:44:37.960 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 2>whoa holy shit, piss no, and then they all post

0:44:41.520 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 2>it on Twitter and they all forget it. Ever happened immediately.

0:44:44.360 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, we call that the dividend.

0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 4>We do call that the dividend. So Gert's being put

0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:54.200
<v Speaker 4>on by this guy who runs this like panel collection

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.040
<v Speaker 4>called brands gpt at ces.

0:44:56.800 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>With a Z.

0:44:58.440 --> 0:45:00.840
<v Speaker 1>No, it's not Pear and Gar with a Z.

0:45:01.080 --> 0:45:04.200
<v Speaker 4>Should it should be. I think me and Robert both

0:45:04.239 --> 0:45:07.640
<v Speaker 4>went to like one or two of these brands GPT panels.

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:10.040
<v Speaker 4>This is the one where Robert got to yell at

0:45:10.080 --> 0:45:11.680
<v Speaker 4>Google and Microsoft and get them mad.

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.960
<v Speaker 1>No Google and McDonald's McDon donald's ahead of AI, which

0:45:16.000 --> 0:45:16.479
<v Speaker 1>is a thing.

0:45:17.640 --> 0:45:22.600
<v Speaker 4>So they look to basically just focus on like convention programming.

0:45:22.840 --> 0:45:24.520
<v Speaker 4>So now they're trying to put on their own convention

0:45:24.600 --> 0:45:28.840
<v Speaker 4>that they're calling Ganert instead of just running this brand's

0:45:28.920 --> 0:45:33.279
<v Speaker 4>gpt at CES. So that's that's the background. It's it's

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:37.759
<v Speaker 4>done by Mode v events. That's Mode and the letter VD.

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 4>But one word that's like the parent company for this.

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.839
<v Speaker 4>I'll be interested once we get closer to October. I'll

0:45:43.880 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 4>be interested to see if this is looking more like

0:45:45.480 --> 0:45:47.560
<v Speaker 4>a real event. It's it's not going to be that

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:50.520
<v Speaker 4>far for me to travel. But no, they're they're promising

0:45:51.120 --> 0:45:54.640
<v Speaker 4>five hundred billion dollars in annual AI spending with two

0:45:54.800 --> 0:45:59.000
<v Speaker 4>hundred and fifty billion new VC cash investments, which is

0:45:59.040 --> 0:45:59.920
<v Speaker 4>which is quite promised.

0:46:00.360 --> 0:46:04.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so hopefully this beta test goes like the last

0:46:04.239 --> 0:46:07.000
<v Speaker 1>video game beta test that I went to and everybody

0:46:07.040 --> 0:46:12.040
<v Speaker 1>clips through the floor and disappears into avoid Well, I

0:46:12.080 --> 0:46:14.800
<v Speaker 1>think that's gonna do it for us in this episode.

0:46:14.800 --> 0:46:17.320
<v Speaker 1>And I want to leave you all with well, before

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<v Speaker 1>we've got one more thing. But before we get into that,

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<v Speaker 1>which which will be fun, I want to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>something sobering, which is that, as you may get from this,

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<v Speaker 1>nearly one hundred percent of the AI use cases that

0:46:27.760 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 1>we saw presented were either nonsense or incredibly vague. At

0:46:31.080 --> 0:46:33.520
<v Speaker 1>these different that where you had people from like Nvidia

0:46:33.560 --> 0:46:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and Adobe and whatnot that like they wouldn't say like,

0:46:36.080 --> 0:46:38.359
<v Speaker 1>we're going to use AI for this specific task. They

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<v Speaker 1>would say we're going to use AI to get more nimble,

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<v Speaker 1>which I think means firing people.

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<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:46:43.920 --> 0:46:46.840
<v Speaker 1>Outside of that, the only real specific use cases that

0:46:46.840 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>were not clearly nonsense. We're stuff like replacing you know,

0:46:50.360 --> 0:46:53.360
<v Speaker 1>customer service workers with chatbots, which is bad, and to

0:46:53.400 --> 0:46:56.080
<v Speaker 1>be fair, some also really good stuff like that telescope

0:46:56.080 --> 0:46:58.279
<v Speaker 1>that used kind of machine learning in order to like

0:46:58.280 --> 0:47:00.440
<v Speaker 1>clean up images so that you can get better, better

0:47:00.480 --> 0:47:02.320
<v Speaker 1>images and whatnot when you're in an area with a

0:47:02.360 --> 0:47:04.600
<v Speaker 1>lot of light pollution. There was some stuff like that,

0:47:04.920 --> 0:47:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but usually very vague. The use cases for AI was

0:47:08.680 --> 0:47:12.480
<v Speaker 1>always extremely clear were the harms and the very first

0:47:13.040 --> 0:47:15.759
<v Speaker 1>panel we attended, there's a company called Deloitte. They're a

0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:18.680
<v Speaker 1>huge consulting firm. If you know about McKenzie because they're

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<v Speaker 1>currently somewhat rightfully so a bit of a bugbear on

0:47:21.800 --> 0:47:24.839
<v Speaker 1>the left, Deloitte is a similar kind of organization, right

0:47:24.880 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I think they're a bit less toxic, but to a

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<v Speaker 1>marginal degree. They're like a massive consulting firm. Companies bring

0:47:31.880 --> 0:47:34.120
<v Speaker 1>them in in order to help them streamline and make

0:47:34.440 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>processes more efficient and stuff, and one of their people

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<v Speaker 1>said that according to their internal metrics, they expected half

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<v Speaker 1>a trillion dollars in fraud this year in one year

0:47:47.239 --> 0:47:52.920
<v Speaker 1>due just to voice cloning AI. And that was a

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<v Speaker 1>more specific statement of what AI is going to do

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<v Speaker 1>to change people's lives than absolutely any positive use case

0:48:00.320 --> 0:48:01.760
<v Speaker 1>I heard presented at this conference.

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<v Speaker 4>Could you like explain what you mean by voice cloning

0:48:05.440 --> 0:48:06.120
<v Speaker 4>so AI.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, we did a couple of Bastards episodes talking

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<v Speaker 1>about scams and like how they've contributed to the decline

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<v Speaker 1>of trust in our society. One of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>is in the last year or so become a massive

0:48:16.920 --> 0:48:19.840
<v Speaker 1>problem is there are now AI things that can generate

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:23.960
<v Speaker 1>a human voice near perfectly to the point where, especially

0:48:23.960 --> 0:48:26.120
<v Speaker 1>if it is a voice of say your kid calls

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:27.720
<v Speaker 1>you and they're telling you that they have been fucking

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.440
<v Speaker 1>kidnapped or you know, something else has happened and they

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:32.439
<v Speaker 1>need you to wire them money desperately and you send

0:48:32.440 --> 0:48:34.839
<v Speaker 1>them the money, it's a fucking scam, right that is.

0:48:35.120 --> 0:48:37.359
<v Speaker 1>We had a person from Deloitte, and I think it

0:48:37.400 --> 0:48:39.640
<v Speaker 1>was a person from Adobe, say that they had been

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<v Speaker 1>called by a colleague who had gotten like a call

0:48:43.960 --> 0:48:47.000
<v Speaker 1>thinking it was that seemed to be them asking them

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 1>to buy a bunch of Apple gift cards like shit,

0:48:49.800 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 1>Like this is extreme and it's only going to get

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<v Speaker 1>more common. You can automate to the writing of the

0:48:55.120 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>scams and the sending of the scams using these AI tools,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is absolutely, in my opinion, much more of

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<v Speaker 1>a direct way in which AI is going to affect

0:49:05.680 --> 0:49:09.279
<v Speaker 1>people than any single product or even cumulatively, all of

0:49:09.280 --> 0:49:10.840
<v Speaker 1>the AI products we saw at CE.

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<v Speaker 4>All that uplifting note Yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a bummer, and well, we will be going

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.480
<v Speaker 1>into more depth about that, but I wanted to end.

0:49:21.560 --> 0:49:25.560
<v Speaker 1>Tavia took notes at all of the buzzwords, particularly the

0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:29.200
<v Speaker 1>AI buzzwords that we heard during the convention, and she's

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<v Speaker 1>going to read that to us now.

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<v Speaker 5>You gotta tell you, this list is incredible. I've worked

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.040
<v Speaker 5>in and out of corporate America, and much like a cult,

0:49:36.040 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 5>they have their own internal vocabulary that they use, and

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:44.279
<v Speaker 5>this convention we went to was just filthy with these buzzwords.

0:49:44.320 --> 0:49:46.759
<v Speaker 5>So I'm just going to dig in. The ones that

0:49:46.800 --> 0:49:50.120
<v Speaker 5>I've written down are double down, love that one. That

0:49:50.120 --> 0:49:54.480
<v Speaker 5>one comes up a lot. Versioning, versioning, versioning, which is

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:57.240
<v Speaker 5>like a legitimate term in software, but I was hearing

0:49:57.239 --> 0:49:59.520
<v Speaker 5>it used in places where it didn't make much sense

0:49:59.560 --> 0:50:03.320
<v Speaker 5>to do it. Then our favorite liar's.

0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:06.040
<v Speaker 4>Dividend by by by far the best term that we've

0:50:06.040 --> 0:50:08.520
<v Speaker 4>heard at the conference, So flexible.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm using versions of that and everything. You know,

0:50:11.040 --> 0:50:13.080
<v Speaker 1>it makes me think a lot about the murderer's dividend,

0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>which is when you know, I longer I have to

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:15.760
<v Speaker 1>deal with an annoying person.

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<v Speaker 5>We got content credential, which is coming up a lot,

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<v Speaker 5>especially around the topic of AI. We have data rich

0:50:22.640 --> 0:50:26.520
<v Speaker 5>and it's sister term problem rich core values, which I

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<v Speaker 5>heard in every single panel that we were in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Usually the context of this was we don't need

0:50:32.600 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 1>regulations around how AI can be made and put together.

0:50:37.000 --> 0:50:39.759
<v Speaker 1>The core values of the companies is what we'll make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that AI isn't used in a harmful way.

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 3>Great, that's that's gonna happen.

0:50:47.320 --> 0:50:51.960
<v Speaker 5>No, very trustworthy, very trustworthy groups. Got risk model. And

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<v Speaker 5>then my next term is the favorite one. It's so good,

0:50:54.400 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 5>I think I'm gonna give this one to you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, because I don't think we talked about this. Guardian

0:50:58.480 --> 0:51:01.360
<v Speaker 1>MM or something like that was then it's MM guardian

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:05.440
<v Speaker 1>MM Guardian, which is an app you put on It's

0:51:05.520 --> 0:51:07.080
<v Speaker 1>not it used to be an app. Now it is

0:51:07.120 --> 0:51:09.880
<v Speaker 1>a phone you buy for your child. It's a modified

0:51:09.920 --> 0:51:15.759
<v Speaker 1>Samsung Galaxy something or other that there's no seven. It

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:19.080
<v Speaker 1>gives your It gives you, as the parent, complete access

0:51:19.120 --> 0:51:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to your kid's phone and everything they're doing. And it

0:51:21.120 --> 0:51:25.160
<v Speaker 1>automatically monitors, monitors all of their not just their conversations,

0:51:25.200 --> 0:51:28.400
<v Speaker 1>but their browsing history, and sends you alerts. So like,

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:31.279
<v Speaker 1>if someone sends your kid a text that says you

0:51:31.280 --> 0:51:33.720
<v Speaker 1>should kys you know, kill yourself. This is the example

0:51:33.719 --> 0:51:36.040
<v Speaker 1>he showed us. You get a message that like there's

0:51:36.080 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 1>this suicidal discussion or whatnot going on, we ask them,

0:51:40.920 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 1>you know. Hey. Garrison particularly was like, what if this

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<v Speaker 1>is a situation where a parent is abusive and like

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<v Speaker 1>using this in order to keep tabs on their kids

0:51:52.600 --> 0:51:55.120
<v Speaker 1>or like hates you know, is like a child is

0:51:55.120 --> 0:51:58.399
<v Speaker 1>gay or trans and their parents are not accepting of that.

0:51:58.600 --> 0:52:01.279
<v Speaker 1>Like does this still can parents still like spy on

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:03.680
<v Speaker 1>them over that stuff? Are there any limitations? Are there

0:52:03.680 --> 0:52:06.279
<v Speaker 1>any sort of safeguards built in in case a parent

0:52:06.400 --> 0:52:09.200
<v Speaker 1>is being abusive right to like monitor or sin to

0:52:09.239 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 1>the authorities of a parent is using this in an

0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:14.680
<v Speaker 1>abusive way. And their answer was no, We're purely about

0:52:14.719 --> 0:52:18.399
<v Speaker 1>giving parents more power. And yeah, the term that they

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:21.400
<v Speaker 1>used was tech contracts with children.

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<v Speaker 5>I can't think of anything more dismal.

0:52:26.120 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that is one of the most dystopian assemblies of

0:52:29.920 --> 0:52:31.000
<v Speaker 1>words I've ever heard.

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:35.040
<v Speaker 4>Should you should you should never say the phrase contracts

0:52:35.080 --> 0:52:38.439
<v Speaker 4>with children. That's just that's just like if you find

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<v Speaker 4>yourself ever ever hearing the phrase contracts with children spoken

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 4>by anyone, run away from that person as fast as

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 4>you can, maybe maybe maybe punch them in the face first,

0:52:47.560 --> 0:52:49.399
<v Speaker 4>and then run away as fast as you can.

0:52:50.760 --> 0:52:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's some shit you just keep in Florida. I

0:52:54.880 --> 0:52:55.600
<v Speaker 3>guess now.

0:52:57.360 --> 0:52:58.759
<v Speaker 1>It's a super Florida app.

0:52:58.920 --> 0:52:59.200
<v Speaker 4>That is.

0:52:59.280 --> 0:53:00.960
<v Speaker 1>That is the scent of this business.

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<v Speaker 5>Moving on, We've got other terms called like visionary and

0:53:05.120 --> 0:53:07.400
<v Speaker 5>thought leaders, which comes up a lot in these types.

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:10.680
<v Speaker 2>Of I mean, the pr shit people love saying thought leader.

0:53:11.000 --> 0:53:11.480
<v Speaker 1>I love it.

0:53:12.680 --> 0:53:18.160
<v Speaker 5>Eat it up. We also have Edge Computing I know.

0:53:19.200 --> 0:53:21.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah again handy, great company.

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:25.479
<v Speaker 5>Incredible company, very very excellent product. We have Digital Twin

0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:27.040
<v Speaker 5>Horizon Scan.

0:53:27.360 --> 0:53:31.000
<v Speaker 2>So Digital Twin's really good because it means like eight

0:53:31.040 --> 0:53:35.000
<v Speaker 2>different things. It can mean literally a copy of something,

0:53:35.280 --> 0:53:37.840
<v Speaker 2>or it can mean a digital version of something. It

0:53:37.840 --> 0:53:40.399
<v Speaker 2>can mean like a metaverse thing. And these are all

0:53:40.480 --> 0:53:42.719
<v Speaker 2>different industries using it, and no one can agree on

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 2>the meaning.

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:45.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's just tradition. That's just like what they do.

0:53:46.560 --> 0:53:49.120
<v Speaker 5>They have horizon scan. I actually kind of liked that one.

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 5>Was the first time I heard that one. When they're

0:53:51.160 --> 0:53:53.279
<v Speaker 5>just like looking into the future, I think they're calling

0:53:53.360 --> 0:53:57.239
<v Speaker 5>that horizon scan use case, which came up a lot

0:53:57.320 --> 0:54:00.759
<v Speaker 5>because everyone was groping for use cases for their technology

0:54:00.800 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 5>and didn't seem to have any that they could bring up.

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:08.880
<v Speaker 4>The next one I heard way more than I wanted

0:54:08.960 --> 0:54:12.520
<v Speaker 4>to hear, which was accelerate. Yes, always always a great

0:54:12.640 --> 0:54:16.440
<v Speaker 4>term to hear in tech. There was there was so

0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:20.759
<v Speaker 4>much accelerate and accelerating relating to their tech development and

0:54:20.800 --> 0:54:24.520
<v Speaker 4>their tech use cases. For another one of those terms

0:54:24.520 --> 0:54:25.719
<v Speaker 4>that Tavia just read off.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this next term is a real thing and an

0:54:27.960 --> 0:54:30.520
<v Speaker 1>important thing, and not a thing that anyone in the

0:54:30.520 --> 0:54:34.000
<v Speaker 1>tech industry wants or cares about the right to be forgotten.

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>This has actually been legislated. The reason they have to

0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:38.879
<v Speaker 1>care about this to some extent is it's been legislated

0:54:38.880 --> 0:54:41.480
<v Speaker 1>in the EU right, and it should be everywhere. I

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:44.759
<v Speaker 1>actually think this is an incredibly important concept, and it's

0:54:44.760 --> 0:54:48.040
<v Speaker 1>basically the you know, we have people go viral that

0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:51.279
<v Speaker 1>become a main character on whatever app for being a

0:54:51.280 --> 0:54:54.040
<v Speaker 1>piece of shit sometimes or sometimes doing something stupid or

0:54:54.080 --> 0:54:56.719
<v Speaker 1>sometimes doing something innocuous that for no reason at all

0:54:57.040 --> 0:54:57.799
<v Speaker 1>makes a huge number.

0:54:58.160 --> 0:54:59.320
<v Speaker 3>He's actually a really good example.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a kid who posted a video of himself

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:05.080
<v Speaker 2>and it was like four point zero gpa had a job,

0:55:05.239 --> 0:55:08.280
<v Speaker 2>brais money didn't get into Harvard or something. He didn't

0:55:08.320 --> 0:55:10.239
<v Speaker 2>mean it in this way, but someone took it and

0:55:10.280 --> 0:55:12.480
<v Speaker 2>then turned it into ay why kids are being kept

0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:14.839
<v Speaker 2>off Harvard thing? And he dm them was like, you're

0:55:14.920 --> 0:55:18.120
<v Speaker 2>ruining my fucking life. Yeah, this is how this, like

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 2>the right to be forgotten, should be everywhere.

0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, is not.

0:55:21.320 --> 0:55:24.560
<v Speaker 1>It is a hugely important thing, and you know, I

0:55:24.880 --> 0:55:26.680
<v Speaker 1>actually give the EU a lot of credit for the

0:55:26.719 --> 0:55:29.279
<v Speaker 1>fact that that has to some extent been legislated. All

0:55:29.280 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of that needs to be more common in other countries

0:55:31.680 --> 0:55:36.120
<v Speaker 1>and more vigorously enforced. I don't I say that I

0:55:36.160 --> 0:55:37.880
<v Speaker 1>have no idea how you do it with the internet.

0:55:37.920 --> 0:55:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Working the way it does. Some of this, I actually

0:55:40.280 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 1>do think is a values thing where we all need

0:55:43.120 --> 0:55:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to be more okay with the fact that people, even

0:55:45.800 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>people who can do something shitty online, deserve to not

0:55:49.680 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 1>have that necessarily define the rest of their lives, especially

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:55.399
<v Speaker 1>you know, teenagers.

0:55:56.800 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 2>And the next one is one that I like to

0:55:59.040 --> 0:56:03.480
<v Speaker 2>associate with my posts, data poisoning. I believe every time

0:56:03.520 --> 0:56:06.839
<v Speaker 2>I interact with Twitter or blue Sky, that is what

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:09.640
<v Speaker 2>I am doing. I have some data poisoning gap, or

0:56:09.719 --> 0:56:13.120
<v Speaker 2>I am data poisoning as a verb, or I am

0:56:13.239 --> 0:56:14.480
<v Speaker 2>data poisoning myself.

0:56:14.560 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:17.680
<v Speaker 5>Uh.

0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 1>And then we've got oh, Garrison, you want to do

0:56:20.680 --> 0:56:21.080
<v Speaker 1>this one?

0:56:21.160 --> 0:56:21.440
<v Speaker 3>Sure?

0:56:21.640 --> 0:56:23.480
<v Speaker 4>These these are the last three that I got from

0:56:23.520 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 4>an AI ethics panel. We have data silos, how data

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:31.200
<v Speaker 4>is all separated. We have data harmonization, kind of the

0:56:31.239 --> 0:56:32.640
<v Speaker 4>opposite of data silos.

0:56:32.719 --> 0:56:35.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's basically using AI to generate pictures of dan

0:56:35.600 --> 0:56:36.319
<v Speaker 1>harmon Right.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, Then we have the last term, which I will

0:56:42.360 --> 0:56:48.000
<v Speaker 4>I will describe for you the speed capacity gap. So

0:56:48.760 --> 0:56:50.240
<v Speaker 4>the speed capacity.

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<v Speaker 1>Gap, I know I can answer that for you. So

0:56:51.800 --> 0:56:55.920
<v Speaker 1>sometimes when I'm doing a shitload of amphetamines that I

0:56:56.000 --> 0:56:59.640
<v Speaker 1>purchased from some Turkish website via the dark web. You know,

0:56:59.680 --> 0:57:02.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm doing them with a friend and they od because

0:57:02.360 --> 0:57:04.920
<v Speaker 1>there's a day there's a speed capacity gap, which we

0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:05.759
<v Speaker 1>need two of us.

0:57:06.560 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's what that uh, that's what that DHS guy

0:57:09.560 --> 0:57:11.919
<v Speaker 4>was talking about. For using AI to monitor dark web

0:57:11.960 --> 0:57:15.480
<v Speaker 4>purchases is going to really get on that one. No

0:57:15.800 --> 0:57:19.440
<v Speaker 4>speed capacity gap the gap between tech acceleration and the

0:57:19.480 --> 0:57:22.760
<v Speaker 4>capacity of society to keep up and make informed decisions

0:57:22.800 --> 0:57:27.120
<v Speaker 4>about that technology, which is actually kind of a useful terms.

0:57:27.160 --> 0:57:28.880
<v Speaker 4>It's it's just one of those you know, it sounds

0:57:28.880 --> 0:57:31.040
<v Speaker 4>like a silly tech term, but when the win it's

0:57:31.040 --> 0:57:32.919
<v Speaker 4>actually explained like, oh, that's actually a really good way

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<v Speaker 4>to think about the way AI is being pushed in

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<v Speaker 4>all of these new ways, and are we actually as

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<v Speaker 4>a society, whether that's like as a government or just

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<v Speaker 4>like culturally, able to actually make inform decisions about how

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<v Speaker 4>we want this tech to be integrated into our lives.

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<v Speaker 4>And now the dark side of this term, the speed

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<v Speaker 4>capacity gap. For the to to kind of solve this gap,

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<v Speaker 4>we can either slow down a development or we can

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<v Speaker 4>speed up our capacity. And the panelists obviously we preferred

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<v Speaker 4>the latter, and so we should just speed up our

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<v Speaker 4>cultural capacity.

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<v Speaker 5>Did they propose a solution for.

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<v Speaker 4>That, Well, kind of, but it's it's a little unclear.

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<v Speaker 4>We can go through my recording at a later date

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<v Speaker 4>once we do our full AI episode. But they're rationale

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<v Speaker 4>for why we should instead of instead of slowing down

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<v Speaker 4>tech development instead speed up our cultural capacity is because

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<v Speaker 4>of the many benefits that tech improvements can be made

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<v Speaker 4>via tech iterations. Right, the more iterations you get of

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<v Speaker 4>technology that the more benefits are able to get from

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<v Speaker 4>said technology. A versioning y version exactly, which brings us

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<v Speaker 4>all the way back to versioning there we go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, which brings us all the way back to turkisham fetamines.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I've been for the last twenty years trying different

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<v Speaker 1>versions of turkisham fetamines and the blue pills. Man. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>normally you don't hallucinate on speed, but when you take enough,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out you can. And so I think what

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to leave everyone with is the knowledge that

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<v Speaker 1>Turkish shamphetamines are a thing you can purchase on the

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<v Speaker 1>dark web and should there's no health consequences to it

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<v Speaker 1>at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not part of this off line does not support

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<v Speaker 2>illegal drug purchases.

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<v Speaker 3>Respectful podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>They're not illegal if they're so new that the DEA

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<v Speaker 1>hasn't banned them yet, that's innovation exactly exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>That's versioning, and that is the speed capacity gap, folks, that.

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<v Speaker 4>The DA can't keep up with the tech improvements.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, everybody that's going to do it for us

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<v Speaker 1>here at cool Zone. Before we leave, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>give Tabia and Ed both chances to plug their pluggables. Ed,

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<v Speaker 1>people are going to be hearing from you every week

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<v Speaker 1>on your new show, Better off Line, which is launching

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<v Speaker 1>in a what I'm sure you'll agree is a frighteningly

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<v Speaker 1>short time raace.

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<v Speaker 4>Soon.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to be the best weekly tech show.

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<v Speaker 2>It is going to do the job that no one

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<v Speaker 2>is strong enough to do, which is a questions. Listen

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<v Speaker 2>to the answers, then actually make a question that follows them.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very much looking forward to this and very excited

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<v Speaker 2>to work with the cool Zone team and Tabia.

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<v Speaker 5>Oh. You can find me on Twitter at cutma and

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to learn a little bit more about

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<v Speaker 5>my interactive and immersive work, you can see that at

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<v Speaker 5>Tabimora dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>Now you may wonder why I didn't give you any

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<v Speaker 2>links to anything, and that was a deliberate thing called subterfuge.

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<v Speaker 2>But you can find me at where's your ed dot

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<v Speaker 2>at at Edzeitron, on Twitter, x rateminutes, dot bierz, and

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<v Speaker 2>of course plue sky Zetron, dobisky stot dot social.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and you can find my profile on here. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're fucking done here.

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