1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:04,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. This one's a little 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: bit different, guys, because we have all been through a 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:12,399 Speaker 1: real tragedy in the last few days and we are 4 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:16,200 Speaker 1: all really broken up about it. And interestingly, before that 5 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: even happened, we had Rob on the schedule to come 6 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 1: on this podcast. And it's like God plans things out 7 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 1: for us, doesn't he. And I'm like asking God, right now, 8 00:00:28,240 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 1: get me through this because I have really struggled the 9 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: past few days with Charlie's death. But we have Rob 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:40,600 Speaker 1: Chadwick here with us today. He is the United States 11 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:45,320 Speaker 1: Concealed Carry Association Principal Training Advisor and just so happens 12 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,559 Speaker 1: to be a thirty year law enforcement veteran and the 13 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: former head of the Tactical Training Unit at the FBI 14 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Academy in Quantico. 15 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: Rob knows all about this. 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: He's trained elite teams, he's led SWAT operations, and he's 17 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: served as the project protection detail for six US Attorneys General. Rob, 18 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: I said, I don't know if I can do this, 19 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: and I really didn't know if I could do this, 20 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: but You're like so gracious you talked me through this 21 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: and got me to start recording because I knew that 22 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:21,680 Speaker 1: your message is so important because you know so much more. 23 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 2: About this than we do. 24 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: And I look at what happened and I think, gosh, 25 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: so many of us on a regular basis go to 26 00:01:29,040 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: events like that and speak. 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: And maybe we have security a few guys like Charlie did. 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: Maybe we don't, and we really don't think that's what 29 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:43,959 Speaker 1: happened to Charlie Kirk that an assassination on speech for speaking, 30 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: an assassination of a human life for speaking, will ever happen, 31 00:01:48,560 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: but it did. So tell us from your perspective, what happened, Peter. 32 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 3: You know, let me start by saying thank you for 33 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,919 Speaker 3: this opportunity, and I'm sorry. 34 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 4: I know you and Charlie knew each other, and many 35 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 4: of your. 36 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 5: Colleagues knew him well. 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: I did not know or ever get a chance to 38 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 3: meet Charlie, but I was a long time admirer of his, 39 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 3: specifically his courage and grace in trying to foster what 40 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 3: is most important in American society, and that is civil discourse. Right, 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 3: we are a nation built on the freedom of speech 42 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 3: and you know, hopefully mutual respect and what I want 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 3: people you know today on all days, right of nine 44 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 3: to eleven, Remembrance day of the terrorist attack that happened 45 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 3: to us almost twenty five years ago, twenty four years ago. 46 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,320 Speaker 5: I of course remember it well. 47 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,639 Speaker 3: I was a special Agent sign of the Miami Division, 48 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,240 Speaker 3: and we'll remember that day like many of the previous 49 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 3: generation remember the day Kennedy was shot. And unfortunately this 50 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: next generation remember yesterday the day Charlie Kirk was shot 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: on you know, basically broadcast everywhere. 52 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 5: Everyone was talking about it. 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: And I want people and I want your listeners, and 54 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 3: I want you to take this and sort of reframe 55 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 3: because there is no doubt about it. What you saw 56 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: yesterday was an act of terrorism, all right. Terrorism is 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,079 Speaker 3: defined as an act that is designed to cause fear 58 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: and so dissension and undermine the fabric of a society 59 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,560 Speaker 3: and get you to change your behaviors through terrorist acts. Right, 60 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what we saw yesterday. It's exactly what 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 3: we saw. You know, when the healthcare CEO is assassinated. 62 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 3: I will never name these shooters, but you know that 63 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: person that assassinated, you know, the healthcare CEO up in 64 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 3: New York. And then we had two political one near 65 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: assassination and one attempted up in Michigan. I believe there 66 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 3: was the attempt at Governor Whitmer not too long ago. 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: These are all designed to get us to change not 68 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:05,720 Speaker 3: only what we do and what we say, but who 69 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: we are as an American people. 70 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 5: All right. 71 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: What we cannot do is continue to allow the fringe few, 72 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 3: whether it's the far left or the far right, it 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:20,279 Speaker 3: doesn't matter the fringe few to dictate what is important 74 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 3: in how we as an American people react. Okay, and 75 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk, more than anybody I know, was that champion. 76 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 3: I actually, as somebody who was a lot older than him, 77 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 3: tried to emulate his style and his gracefulness and his 78 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:42,600 Speaker 3: graciousness in that respectful discourse, right face to face, agree 79 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:47,600 Speaker 3: to disagree, never name calling, but also the courage to 80 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,479 Speaker 3: stand up for what he knew to be right, what 81 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 3: he knew to be correct, correct, and just to you know, 82 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:57,279 Speaker 3: I would consider him an absolute martyr, because that's what 83 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 3: the definition of a martyr is too. And so what 84 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 3: we cannot do is allow us to be lured into 85 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 3: that reaction that these people want, these fringe lunatics, want 86 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 3: us to be angry and divisive and violent. 87 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 4: It's not who we are. 88 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 2: Well or they want us to be quiet. 89 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's the thing, that's the reason I'm 90 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 1: doing this today, is that we're not going to be silenced. 91 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: We're not going to be quiet. 92 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 1: They've tried to quiet us every way possible, and this 93 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: is the worst. 94 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 2: I mean, we've been. 95 00:05:30,040 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: We've been through years of silencing in the media, silencing 96 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: on social media, we've been through years of law fare. 97 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:40,719 Speaker 1: We've seen now two assassination at Tepson on a president. 98 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: But really, I think so many of us who just speak, 99 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: who speak the truth and speak the gospel. And I 100 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 1: think that was one of the biggest takeaways for me 101 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: of this is that Charlie Kirk was out there every 102 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:00,920 Speaker 1: day preaching. It wasn't just politics for him. Always agree 103 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: with his politics, but where his faith was, where his 104 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: promotion of family. That I think that was what they 105 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:13,760 Speaker 1: feared the most, actually was the idea that he could 106 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: potentially bring family back to this country. Because family cannot 107 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: be broken. Family is a bond like no other. It 108 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:25,159 Speaker 1: is so hard to break that family bond, and they 109 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: have spent the Left has spent decades breaking the family bond, 110 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 1: and it took them that long and Charlie Kirk has 111 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:35,920 Speaker 1: been doing this for twelve years, and in twelve years 112 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: he started to change the young men in this country 113 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 1: to say I want that bond, I want that family, 114 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 1: I want a wife, I want children. 115 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 2: And he was getting to the women. 116 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,840 Speaker 1: The women aren't there yet, I'll admit I see that 117 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: the women are taking a little bit longer. But he 118 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: was getting the men to that point where they said, gosh, yeah, 119 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 1: I want that traditional family. And that scared the left 120 00:06:55,960 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: so badly. Then instead of debating him, instead of arguing 121 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 1: going with him. 122 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: They went out and assassinated him. 123 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, you hit your spot on right. 124 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: The reason they assassinated him was because he was so effective, right, 125 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 3: It wasn't because he was this Actually, I was disgusted 126 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 3: this morning when I saw I believe it was the 127 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 3: New York Times. It was one of the New York papers, 128 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 3: and I'll have to figure out exactly which one it was, 129 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 3: But one of the New York papers characterized Charlie Kirk 130 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 3: as a right wing provocateur, and that is just that's 131 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 3: just not correct. I'm sorry, that's that's outrageous to say 132 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 3: that what he was was a champion of open discourse, 133 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: the freedom of speech, the freedom of religion, the freedom 134 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 3: to debate our fellow citizens in a peaceful, respectful manner. 135 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:45,880 Speaker 4: And that is powerful. 136 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,400 Speaker 3: When we see someone like you know what, I don't 137 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 3: disagree or I don't necessarily agree with him or her, 138 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 3: but they make a they make a persuasive argument in 139 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 3: a respectful way. 140 00:07:56,920 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 5: That is powerful. That is dangerous. 141 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 3: And that is why he was And I will tell 142 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 3: you his young, beautiful children, his wife, his entire family. 143 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 3: I know that they are just devastated, they are just 144 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 3: ruined over this, but they have so much to be 145 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 3: proud of in that man. He has done more for 146 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: the freedom of religion, the freedom of speech, American values 147 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,320 Speaker 3: than many many people that I could even think of. 148 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 3: I mean it just he is a hero and is 149 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: now all time hero. 150 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: And he preached a message of happiness, a message that 151 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: there is a life out there on this earth that 152 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: is good, and there's a life beyond this, there is 153 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 1: an eternal life as well, and that you can make 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:44,600 Speaker 1: the most of this life by following God and following 155 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: God's teachings. 156 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 2: And they just hated that. 157 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: I really believe that they hated that because he didn't 158 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 1: believe that you could change your gender because you can't. 159 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: And the fact that he spoke that truth made people crazy. 160 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 1: I mean, and now we're hearing today that some of 161 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: the bullets on this gun had some transanti or pro 162 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: transgender messaging on it, or it's something. We're just hearing 163 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,440 Speaker 1: bits and pieces of what's going on. I think a 164 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: lot of people are saying, how could this happen? You 165 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:17,679 Speaker 1: look at the diagram and for me, I look at 166 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: this and I'm like, did somebody know where he would be? 167 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: Because this shooter was on a roof that was very 168 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: I mean very far from where he was. They had 169 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,440 Speaker 1: to be good at what they were doing. They knew 170 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: to how to get away, they knew what to wear. 171 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,880 Speaker 1: What is your when you look at what happened? How 172 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: how did it happen? 173 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: I want to I want to start by saying that again, 174 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 3: you hit it right on the head. 175 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 5: This was an. 176 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: Advertised, heavily advertised event, right it was. It's a part 177 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 3: of his tour. And uh so I always tell people, 178 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 3: you know, you can apply this to your life. I 179 00:09:56,679 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: applied to my life. People should apply this. Whatever is 180 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: predictable is exploitable. Okay, So if I know where you're 181 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,559 Speaker 3: going to be. 182 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 4: Just like just like the assassination in New York. 183 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 3: City, right, that was a heavily publicized event where all 184 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: the shareholders or the executive officers were going to be. 185 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 3: And we know that that assassin stalked the CEO because 186 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 3: it was predictable. 187 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 4: We knew exactly where he's going to be. 188 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: Same thing with Charlie Kirk, Okay, very simple to figure out, Well, 189 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: he's going to be in this amphitheater and then we 190 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: could see the seating on it's he's going to be 191 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 3: right there. 192 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 4: And so I don't believe. 193 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 3: You know, there's lots of conspiracy theories and I understand that, right, 194 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 3: it's lots of sillacious. 195 00:10:40,280 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: We want to know, we want to know. 196 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's where the human mind goes. The 197 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: human mind is like, I can figure this out, but 198 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 1: we have no idea. 199 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: We have no idea, and I will tell you and 200 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: and and it's it's generally speaking, the most simple answer 201 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 3: is usually the one that comes out. I tend to doubt. 202 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 3: I don't know anything, right, I'm not in the FBI anymore. 203 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: I tend to doubt this was a professional hit or 204 00:11:04,480 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 3: some this was somebody who was determined, actually put some 205 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 3: planning into it. But with just a little bit of discipline, 206 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 3: a little bit of forethought and a little bit of planning, 207 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 3: that was a relatively easy thing to accomplish. I hate 208 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 3: to say, a two hundred yard shot with a modern 209 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: hunting rifle and a sighted in that's all day long 210 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 3: for the average shooter, especially from a position where they 211 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:31,679 Speaker 3: are stable, and it looked like this person was probably 212 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 3: in a prone position, which is exactly as a former sniper, 213 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 3: that's how you that's the ideal position is most points 214 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 3: of contact with the ground, so there's no movement, and 215 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 3: then you have that he had all day long to 216 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 3: line up his sites and take the shot when he 217 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: wanted to, and that's what happened. So I don't think 218 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: it was necessarily this professional type of thing. It didn't 219 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 3: take a high level of skill or sophistication. It took 220 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 3: a little bit of discipline, a little bit of planning, 221 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 3: and obviously they had good information on where Charlie was 222 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 3: going to be, and that is what is exploitable. 223 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 1: Unfortunately, well, they found the weapon, or they believe they 224 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: found the weapon, and that leads me to believe that 225 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: it wasn't professional because I would imagine you don't leave 226 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 1: your weapon behind, but I don't know. 227 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: I really am asking you. 228 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: I agree the fact that they found, my understanding again 229 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 3: is that they found a rifle wrapped up in a 230 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:29,120 Speaker 3: towel in the woods nearby. You know, I can guarantee 231 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: you that the FBI, the ATF, every resource available to 232 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,200 Speaker 3: the federal, state, local governments will be devoted to grinding 233 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:38,719 Speaker 3: on this. 234 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 5: Right. 235 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: There's one thing I guarantee you is that once the 236 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 3: FBI gets their sit set on you, you were going 237 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 3: to be found. 238 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:46,839 Speaker 5: The ATF is just the same. Right. 239 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 3: They will move heaven and earth as they should, because again, 240 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 3: this is not just a murder. 241 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 4: This is an act of terrorism. 242 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 3: This is an attack against our country, against our values, 243 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 3: against our fabric. I know the President is going to 244 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 3: authorize that. I know Director Patel will move heaven and 245 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: Earth to make sure that we apprehend this suspect bring 246 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 3: them to. 247 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 5: Justice no matter what. 248 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 1: As we mourn today, we also remember that nearly two 249 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 1: years ago, terrorists murdered more than twelve hundred innocent Israelis 250 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: and took two hundred and fifty hostages. Today, it seems 251 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 1: as if the cries of the dead and the dying 252 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 1: have been drowned out by these crazy shouts of anti 253 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: Semitic hatred and the most brutal attack on the Jewish 254 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: people since the Holocaust. 255 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 2: Has been forgotten. But this is not the case. As 256 00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: the world looks away, there is a light shining in 257 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 2: this darkness. It's a movement of. 258 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 1: Love and support for the people of Israel called Flags 259 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: of Fellowship, and it's organized by the International Fellowship of 260 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,840 Speaker 1: Christians in Jews. On October fifth, just a few weeks away, 261 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:53,199 Speaker 1: millions across America will prayerfully plant an Israeli flag in 262 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: honor and solidarity with the victims of October seventh, twenty 263 00:13:57,040 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 1: twenty three and their grieving families. And now you can 264 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: be a part of this movement too. To get more. 265 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: Information about how you can join the Flags. 266 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: Of Fellowship movement, visit the Fellowship online at IFCJ dot org. 267 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: That's i f CJ dot org. Go there now and 268 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: join the movement. What do you think the next steps 269 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 1: are for the conservative movement? I mean, obviously we we 270 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: see Charlie as the leader of this grassroots movement for 271 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: young people, and I think that turning point is obviously rocked, 272 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: and we are all rocked. And I've heard people saying, Okay, 273 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: this event's not safe anymore. We'll cancel this event, we'll 274 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: keep this event. Well, how do we how do we 275 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 1: manage this? And you've seen some people who because the 276 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: shooter has not been found, I think that there are 277 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: people who are saying, I don't want to go out 278 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,080 Speaker 1: and do anything just yet, because I have a family, 279 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 1: I have kids, you know here. 280 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 3: You know, and then and in the very short term, 281 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: that's wise. Okay, if they're is another highly publicized event, 282 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: you know, maybe you do share it. But long term, 283 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 3: you ask what do we do? And what we do 284 00:15:07,560 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: is we don't let them win, all right. We take 285 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 3: the high road. Always, always take the high road, even 286 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 3: when it's painful, even when it's you know, our gut instinct. 287 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: And I was so angry last night I had to 288 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: walk for hours. I just went out for a long 289 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: walk by myself to try to collect my thoughts and 290 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: my initiation, you know, like many of us, probably doom 291 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 3: scrolling right and seeing all these despicable human beings posting 292 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 3: these horrible you know, i'll call them rage baiting type 293 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 3: of posts about celebrating the death of this this young father. 294 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: That is a form of terrorism. Don't forget that. They 295 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: want you to react. They want you to show your 296 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 3: rearin They want you to show your anger and your 297 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,600 Speaker 3: you know, lack of judgment and poise. 298 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 5: Deprive them of that. 299 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 3: The best thing you can do is take that stoic 300 00:15:57,680 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 3: approach that you know what, we're better than this. We're 301 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 3: better than you because we believe in the freedom of speech. 302 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:08,560 Speaker 3: You disagree with me, I actually swore a oath to 303 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 3: defend your right to do that right. 304 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 4: I was in DC when they were rioting right after 305 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 4: George Floyd was killed. 306 00:16:15,760 --> 00:16:16,160 Speaker 5: All right. 307 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,240 Speaker 3: My unit was called up from Quantico to try to 308 00:16:19,280 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 3: help quell that rioting that was going on and around 309 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 3: Lafayette Park. And here are these people who were yelling 310 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: and spitting and screaming. But the entire time reminding myself 311 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: and all the other agents that were there, Guys, these 312 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 3: are American citizens. Most of them are American citizens. They 313 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 3: have a right to peacefully protest, and I swore an 314 00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: oath to do that, and I think all Americans should 315 00:16:42,080 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: respect that. Now, it doesn't make me angry, Yes, it 316 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,400 Speaker 3: makes me angry, but I absolutely respect their right to 317 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: do so, and if you can rise above that, that 318 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:57,200 Speaker 3: is the ultimate revenge is to not react, not take 319 00:16:57,240 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 3: de bait, so to speak. 320 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: You know, Greg got Feld has said on the five 321 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:05,479 Speaker 1: after this was announced, he said, you know, Republicans, we 322 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: just don't radicalize. Well, that's not who we are, that's 323 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: not our party. And I think his point was, you know, 324 00:17:13,880 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: at this point, we're all really mad right now. I 325 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: think we're all really devastated, you know. And I had 326 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: a similar experience to you. I was walking and I'm 327 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 1: getting my kids ready for bed, and this is all 328 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: going through my mind, and I was thinking, I'm really 329 00:17:32,240 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: sad right now, just really heartbroken for his family, for 330 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: our movement, but the we're gonna get angry, because I 331 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 1: know those are the stages we're gonna get angry. And 332 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: you make such a great point. Angry isn't what Charlie 333 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: would want. Angry wasn't his movement. Angry is their side. 334 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: And I've been thinking about this all day. I'm like 335 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: his message was a message of life, and I know 336 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,920 Speaker 1: sometimes it was tough love and sometimes, like I said, 337 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: I didn't agree with what the message was at all, 338 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: but the overarching message. 339 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: Of we are the party that cares for you. We 340 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 2: are the party of family. 341 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: Tell us why you don't believe in life? Tell us 342 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: why you don't believe in in gender? Why, tell us 343 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: why you don't believe. 344 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,360 Speaker 2: In these things? And he listened and he let them 345 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 2: tell him why. 346 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: But the other side puts out these things in their 347 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:32,080 Speaker 1: yard and say love is love and there is no 348 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: hate here. But it's like they've reversed that word. It's 349 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: like they've taken love over and changed brainwashed people to 350 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 1: believe that hate is love. And I think it's because 351 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: it's a movement. 352 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 2: Where you have to have hate to keep going. 353 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: It's a movement where you have to be a victim 354 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: and there has to be an oppressor. 355 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 2: And because the. 356 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,680 Speaker 1: Only way you can get those people on your side 357 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,960 Speaker 1: is that you cannot help yourself, you need us to 358 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: help you. And Charlie's message it was very different. It 359 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 1: was you have all of the resources right here, this 360 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: is your country. You are the people, You are the disciples, 361 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 1: You are the people that build the families. 362 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: And they hated that. And I just keep. 363 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: Thinking about how the devil is real and he is 364 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: powerful and he wins battles, but we don't stop fighting, 365 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: and our fighting is so much different than theirs. 366 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 2: It's not fighting with hate. 367 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 3: You're spot on. You mentioned radicalization, and gut Felts is right. 368 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 3: You know, the right doesn't radicalize. I would challenge us, though, 369 00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 3: to embrace radicalism in a different way. I try to 370 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 3: embrace radical stoicism. All right, drive people bananas by your 371 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 3: lack of letting them provoke your reaction. 372 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: Right. 373 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 3: We all learn as children we can't control people's actions. 374 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 4: We cannot, and this is the United States. We're not 375 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 4: supposed to. 376 00:19:59,160 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 5: Right. 377 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 3: Can control is our reaction to their actions. All right, 378 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:07,360 Speaker 3: And as you know, you mentioned Jesus and the biblical teachings. 379 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 5: Look how just insane. 380 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 3: He drove the devil right by not rising to the bait, right, 381 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 3: not acting as. 382 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 4: He thought he should. 383 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,240 Speaker 3: That is the ultimate revenge that we can play, is 384 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 3: to control our actions. Be that stoic professional still stand 385 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 3: for American values, still stand for that. 386 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 5: Right. 387 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 3: Hey, you know what, I can't stand what you're putting 388 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 3: on social media, but I respect your right to do it. 389 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 3: I absolutely respect your right to do it, and I 390 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:40,160 Speaker 3: always will. 391 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 5: And you're not. 392 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 4: Going to make me angry enough, you know, to change 393 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 4: my mind. You're not going to change me. 394 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 3: Your actions do not get to change who I am 395 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 3: and what I believe in. 396 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: I had a friend reach out to me last night 397 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: and said, I don't know if you knew Charlie or not. 398 00:20:55,119 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 2: I didn't agree with what he said. 399 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: I didn't like anything that he's said, but I imagine that 400 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: it's tough, and I'm sorry, and nobody deserves to have 401 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 1: this happen to them. And I thanked her, and she said, 402 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: but honestly, how do you think we get through this? 403 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:18,119 Speaker 1: Because the country is at a boiling point. We're on 404 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,400 Speaker 1: different sides of the aisle. And I said back to her, 405 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: this is how we talk. We say we disagree, but 406 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: we still love each other. 407 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 5: That's right. 408 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,240 Speaker 4: We are all Americans. That's the first and foremost right. 409 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 3: We always You know, there's plenty of my family members 410 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 3: that I deeply love and deeply disagree with, but I 411 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,600 Speaker 3: would do anything for them, anything. 412 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: Right much Exactly, I would do anything for the person 413 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: who posts something horrible that I vehemently disagree with. And 414 00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: I've seen and I have to say that this is 415 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: not the Left as a whole, and that would be 416 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: unfair to say that because I have seen left wing 417 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: influencers who have come out in tears and said, this 418 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: isn't what this is about. And you know, we're here 419 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: to talk. We can't believe it. We're devastated, and so 420 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: I I and I'm not belittling the fact that the 421 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: media has created this problem. And I fully, I fully 422 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,479 Speaker 1: support the blame on the media. I mean, my gosh, 423 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,439 Speaker 1: this happens and you have MSNBC's saying, oh, it's probably 424 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 1: a celebratory shot from one of his supporters. 425 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 2: It's like, I can't even comprehend how sick that is. 426 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:35,679 Speaker 3: It's a it's remember, the media is not the media 427 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 3: of our grandparents. 428 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: No, it's notice. 429 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 3: It is a pay for play. It is clickbait all 430 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: the time, eyeballs. They are playing to their audience there 431 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,440 Speaker 3: and they're you know, the more they can be sensational, 432 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 3: the more they get their struggling network to be mentioned right, like, 433 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 3: that's what they want. 434 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the problem with society 435 00:22:55,280 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: today is that these radical news agencies decided that the 436 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 1: only way they could compete with the message, the good 437 00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: message of the conservatives, the good message of joy and 438 00:23:08,720 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: happiness and godliness, was to try to damage society. 439 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 2: Try to have the most radical message out there. 440 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: And I honestly see this as a battle of good 441 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 1: and evil when you have these lies that they spew 442 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,280 Speaker 1: on a regular basis. Because someone said that this to 443 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: me yesterday. If you can tell people that speech is violence, 444 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: then you can respond to speech with violence. 445 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 3: Well, so never forget. And this is a lesson that 446 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 3: I learned. It was profound to me as a brand 447 00:23:41,560 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 3: new special agent in the FBI. A long time ago. 448 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: We had a former Soviet KGB colonel come and speak 449 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 3: to my class, and he had run for decades from 450 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 3: the sixties seventies, eighties, the psychological operations to undermine the 451 00:23:58,480 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 3: United States. 452 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 4: Told he said, listen, this is a playbook, right. 453 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying this was a Soviet plot, right, 454 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is this influence 455 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 3: that same playbook is being used because they go after 456 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 3: the institutions. 457 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 5: First. 458 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: You got to go after the churches, get rid of that. 459 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 3: Then you go after the schools, undermine that. Then you 460 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,080 Speaker 3: got to go after the law enforcement. Right, what is left? 461 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: Boy Scouts? I was a Boy Scout leader for my 462 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 3: son who is a Marine officer right now, deployed. 463 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 4: That was the best thing for that young man. It 464 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 4: was an opportunity for him to be. 465 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:39,240 Speaker 3: A leader, to fail safely, to be with other boys 466 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: his age. That institution has been nearly destroyed. 467 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 5: Now. 468 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that they did nothing wrong, right, but 469 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,479 Speaker 3: there are things and there are forces that want to 470 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:57,760 Speaker 3: absolutely destroy those institutions that are absolutely underpinning for our society, 471 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 3: and most of them are gone. Law enforcement has suffered 472 00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 3: tremendously in the last few years. Who do you turn to. Well, 473 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 3: now we have to take it upon ourselves to understand. 474 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,119 Speaker 3: All right, I still support the police one, but I 475 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 3: have to acknowledge that it's going to take them twice 476 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 3: as long to get to me now as it used 477 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 3: to just five years ago. They're understaffed, under resourced, undertrained. 478 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 3: So I have to become my first responder for my family, 479 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:26,399 Speaker 3: whatever that means, right, If. 480 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 1: That's that also that also for communities where law enforcement 481 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: is critical on a daily basis, that also means that 482 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,400 Speaker 1: I have to try to go to war every day, 483 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: and that has created war zones in this country that 484 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,359 Speaker 1: we ignore. We are all guilty of ignoring it because 485 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: we hear about it on the news. Every Monday. This 486 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: many murders in this city over the weekend. This many 487 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: murders in that city over the weekend. 488 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 2: And you are right. It started with removing the churches. 489 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 2: They started that. 490 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: As soon as they could remove fathers from the house, 491 00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: and they could remove the faith, they could remove the church. 492 00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,720 Speaker 1: The head of the family is gone, the church will fall. 493 00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: And churches fell in a lot of those communities. A 494 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: lot of those communities were built up by faith. Once 495 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,639 Speaker 1: they got rid of the community church, they. 496 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 2: Took over the schools. 497 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: The worst schools in our nation are in urban areas 498 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:21,720 Speaker 1: where crime is high. That is not a coincidence. That 499 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 1: is being ignored by the left. I say that this 500 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: is one of the biggest crises the United States has 501 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: ever seen. Is that we took whole communities and we 502 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,959 Speaker 1: ignored them, and we took away any safety protection. Then 503 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: then you took the police away. To your point, then 504 00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: you took the police away. What is there and why 505 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 1: is this something that they can go out and chant, 506 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: defund the police, They can go out and trash Christianity, 507 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: and nobody on our side has been as vocal about this. 508 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: And I guess I argued with some of the ways 509 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: that Charlie talked about this. But as I look back 510 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: at how this has these communities have been broken down, 511 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: I think we just haven't faced the fact that there 512 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: is something deeper. 513 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 2: It's not just about votes, it's about destruction. 514 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,520 Speaker 3: No, you're right, I said this, and I've been saying 515 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 3: this for a long time now, and I think this 516 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 3: is it's really coming to a head now, at least 517 00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: I hope we are in a real crisis spot in America. 518 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: But long ago, decades ago, we lost our ability to 519 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,359 Speaker 3: say no to anything. Right, you can't tell an individual 520 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,879 Speaker 3: no anymore. You can't tell an individual no, You're not 521 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: allowed to marry a fire hydrant or you know what, 522 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 3: it's just. 523 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 2: Completely he's a letter box at school. 524 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,560 Speaker 4: Right, you are not a cat. 525 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 3: I don't care if you identify as a cat. That 526 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 3: is strange important behavior. You don't get to be. So 527 00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 3: what we've done, unfortunately, is we have supplanted the needs 528 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: of society and catered to the needs of the extreme 529 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 3: fringe few. I still support their needs. They are American 530 00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:07,440 Speaker 3: citizens too, But what we have to understand is we 531 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: can't cater. 532 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 4: To just that and ignore the middle. 533 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,000 Speaker 3: And the middle is I'm talking like the ninety five 534 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: percent of us that are in the middle I still 535 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: believe can't agree to disagree, just want to go home 536 00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 3: to our families, just want to go. 537 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 5: To work and provide. 538 00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: It's that extreme fringe, though fueled by social media, fueled 539 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:32,679 Speaker 3: by clicks and rage baiting, that is controlling the narrative today. 540 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 3: And that's where and that we've just lost our ability 541 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 3: to say no. 542 00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 2: Let's take a quick commercial break. We'll continue next on 543 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 2: a Tutor Dixon podcast. 544 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,920 Speaker 1: It's just so hard to look at this country and 545 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: see what we're seeing when it comes to violence today. 546 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 2: And Charlie was talking. 547 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: About violence as he was in his last answer on 548 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,120 Speaker 1: his podcast the day before, talking about the stabbing in 549 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 1: North Carolina. 550 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 2: But I mean, you bring up a great point. 551 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: We've had so many assassinations and assassination attempts. I mean, 552 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: think about what is going on, and it's all political 553 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: in this country. You have two assassination attempts on President Trump, 554 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: you have the assassination of the United Healthcare Worker. You 555 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: have the assassinations in New York just a few weeks 556 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: ago when they went into the NFL building and they 557 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: shot people at Black Rock as Black rock was. 558 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 4: The Yeah, that's right in the NFL offices. 559 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And you also have the two legislators in 560 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: Minnesota who were shot at their homes. 561 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 2: I mean, this is beyond a boiling point now. And 562 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 2: now you have. 563 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: Charlie in front of college students, which I just cannot imagine. 564 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 1: I have a sixteen year old daughter. I watched the 565 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: video it was sent to me. I was unprepared for 566 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: what it was. I opened it up and I was 567 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: physically ill immediately. I just I saw it, and you know, 568 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: your mind goes, there's no way that he lived through. 569 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 2: That, but you still are holding out hope that he did. 570 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: And all those young people they sat there and they 571 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 1: watched this happen. I saw it on my phone and 572 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm so damaged by it. And I can't imagine my 573 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 1: girls sitting there and seeing this live. And his family. 574 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 5: Yeah. 575 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 3: I got a call this morning from my daughter. My 576 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 3: youngest is on the road. She just graduated from college. 577 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 3: Young person, wonderful, sweet, you know, young person who's you know, 578 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,160 Speaker 3: by design, been sheltered from as much of this as 579 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:40,000 Speaker 3: I can I possibly do. And she said, I saw 580 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,520 Speaker 3: what happened. I was scrolling through looking at you know, 581 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 3: puppies and stuff. She sends me the best, happiest little 582 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 3: videos to try to make my day, and it's one 583 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:50,880 Speaker 3: of the bright spots of my day. 584 00:30:51,000 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 4: You get these stupid little videos to make you laugh. 585 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 3: But she's scrolling through that, and of course this is 586 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 3: all that's out there right now. And she saw what 587 00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 3: happened at Charlie Kirk, you know, didn't even know what 588 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 3: was going on, and it devastated her. And so I 589 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:06,880 Speaker 3: told her, I said, you and I are going to 590 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 3: talk later today. I have seen a lot of things 591 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: that I never got out of my head. There are 592 00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 3: strategies you can do to deal with it, but yeah, 593 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 3: it is. It is crushing to see what has happened 594 00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: with the United States. You know, I grew up in 595 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: the eighties and grew up as a real fan of 596 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 3: Ronald Reagan. He was the hero that we needed in 597 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 3: the eighties. And yet I saw and admired his relationship 598 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 3: to Speaker O'Neil the other. 599 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:34,960 Speaker 5: Side of the aisle. 600 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they would disagree vehemently, right, and then go 601 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 3: have a beer together. That's what America is about, and 602 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: we have lost that. 603 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: You know. 604 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 3: I served on Attorney General Bars detail, and I have 605 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 3: tremendous respect for that man. He is a great patriot, 606 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 3: incredible constitutionalist, and he served two terms, right he served 607 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 3: under George Burgh, the original, the first, not George w. 608 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 3: George HW as one of the youngest, if not the youngest, 609 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: attorney general. 610 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,040 Speaker 5: And then again under President. 611 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 3: Trump, and just in that span of time, Washington changed 612 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,440 Speaker 3: almost it's almost unrecognizable, just to really, oh, yeah, there 613 00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 3: is no collegial exchange, and if there is, there's very few, 614 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:30,120 Speaker 3: and I thank them for it. But our lawmakers can't 615 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,480 Speaker 3: even speak civilly to each other, much less go have 616 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 3: a beer and disagree and move the American people's business forward. 617 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: It is a zero sum game. We must get out 618 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 3: of this zero sum game because it's it is a 619 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 3: recipe for disaster. And our enemies, both domestically and foreign, 620 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 3: are laughing all the way to the bank. They are 621 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 3: hoping and just they've got their popcorn going watching this 622 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 3: dumpster fire that is America right now. 623 00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 4: We're the only ones that can put that out. 624 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 1: Though, absolutely, And you make such a great point. That 625 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: was what Charlie's point was. Everybody should talk civilly to 626 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 1: one another so we continue forward. I know that that 627 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: we're sad and we're going to hit that angry point. 628 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: But I appreciate you being on here today to remind 629 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: us that you well, I guess my mom would say, 630 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 1: you catch more flies with honey. So you go out 631 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 1: there and you be the happy warrior, and you don't 632 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: let this take down an entire movement. You don't let 633 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: this take down faith. You don't let this take away 634 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: your joy because Charlie wouldn't want that. And I thank you, 635 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: thank you for getting me through this podcast. Everybody, well, 636 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: just really appreciate what you had to say today. 637 00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 2: Rob Chadwick, thank you so much for being here. 638 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 5: Peter, thank you. 639 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 4: And my last words would be listen, don't let them win. 640 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 4: Don't don't let them. 641 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, thank don't let them win. Keep fighting, never forget. 642 00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean, on a day like this, absolutely, that's the 643 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:57,840 Speaker 1: American way. 644 00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: That's what I said. 645 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: They will not crush our spirit. They may have broken 646 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 1: our hearts, but they will not crush our spirit. Thank 647 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:08,680 Speaker 1: you and thank you all for joining us on the 648 00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast. For this podcast and others, go to 649 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: Tutor dixonpodcast dot com, the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or 650 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,959 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts, and you can always watch 651 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 1: us on Rumble on YouTube. Make sure you go out 652 00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: there as a happy warrior and have a blessed day.