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Speaker 4: My friend's mother ruined his wedding. Now she's demanding that

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Speaker 4: we pay for it.

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Speaker 1: Hey, pay up.

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Speaker 4: I caught up with a good friend recently and we

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Speaker 4: reminisced about his ridiculous mother of the grooms situation at

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Speaker 4: the wedding we both went to a number of years ago.

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Speaker 4: Thought it might be worth telling it here. By the way,

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Speaker 4: this comes from Chris to Bell Gold on the ar

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Speaker 4: Slize Okay story Tom subredd it. So about seven years ago,

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Speaker 4: I twenty three female at the time, had just completed

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Speaker 4: my master's degree and was working in my first real job.

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Speaker 1: Hey, we love real jobs.

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Speaker 4: Our masters was a fairly small program and we were

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Speaker 4: a pretty close group. Most of us continue to be

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Speaker 4: close friends. Once we were working. One of my friends

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Speaker 4: us thirty mail had done the program after a career change,

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Speaker 4: so he was a bit older than most of us.

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Speaker 4: He was engaged at the time of our studies, but

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Speaker 4: he was in a long distance relationship with his fiancee

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Speaker 4: twenty eight female, who was working in Europe. We were

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Speaker 4: in Australia. We finally met her towards the end of

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Speaker 4: the program when she joined him in Australia. We all

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Speaker 4: got along well and towards the end of our studies

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Speaker 4: they all gave us a saved the day for their

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Speaker 4: wedding the following year, so about a year's notice, which

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Speaker 4: would be in Malaysia. As she was from Europe and

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Speaker 4: he was from Australia, they decided to get married in

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Speaker 4: Asia as it would be cheaper and given so many

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Speaker 4: people would have to travel anyways, they can make a

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Speaker 4: vacation out of it, all right.

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Speaker 1: Making the best out of the situation.

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Speaker 4: For a lot of us in our early twenties, this

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Speaker 4: and we were all excited to make a trip out

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Speaker 4: of it. We were, of course broke UNI students, so

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Speaker 4: a friend of mine said he didn't want to pressure

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Speaker 4: us to take our leave and spend our money if

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Speaker 4: we couldn't make it work, but we were all keen

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Speaker 4: to it. As the wedding neared, we had all booked

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Speaker 4: the cheapest flights that stopped at a million other cities

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Speaker 4: and budgeted hotels. The groom contacted everyone who was coming

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Speaker 4: not a big wedding to say a thank you, as

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Speaker 4: they would be paying for the hotel for the wedding

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Speaker 2: out of the Uh. Well, it was the bride and

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Speaker 4: the groom. We all thought this was lovely and thanked him.

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Speaker 1: Hey, last chance. Got to take advantage of it.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think too much of it. She seemed nice,

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Speaker 4: We were all taking photos at dinner and she made

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Speaker 4: it off. The wedding day was a very different story.

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Speaker 4: The wedding was very relaxed, beach wedding in the afternoon,

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Speaker 1: Oh, they're crushing the beach wedding.

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Speaker 4: Mother of the groom turns up wearing a full Chinese

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Speaker 4: note this woman is as Caucasian as they gone. She

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Speaker 4: looked absolutely ridiculous. She proceeded to walk up to her

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Speaker 4: There were a few sore heads from what had been

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Speaker 4: The groom's mother proceeded to walk around with an envelope

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Speaker 4: collect it. And we want to collect you every weekday

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Speaker 4: What the heck, dude, I think she's just trying to

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Speaker 4: and I'll take give it to them, blah blah blah.

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Speaker 2: Well why is she trying to get money out of

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Speaker 1: Like they I already know that they don't have a

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Speaker 2: That you got to use the master's degree to get

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Speaker 1: They literally said at the beginning that they're like, we are.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were so uncomfortable. The truth was we would

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Speaker 4: I actually don't know if she even gave them the money.

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Speaker 1: And so she's like, well, I'm always gonna be the

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna make everyone give us money. But it's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what the heck, dude, that's so weird.

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Speaker 1: But that's the end of that story. That is the

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Speaker 2: My sister tricked me into babysitting at her wedding and

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Speaker 4: But it's your gift to her.

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Speaker 2: My sister, Jesse, a thirty year old woman, was married

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Speaker 2: invite me to be a bridesmaid. Yes. I of course

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Speaker 2: By the way, this comes from user medical Misadventure on

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Speaker 2: congratulations on your journey to so I flew into Vegas

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Speaker 1: In our room.

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Speaker 2: There's a little hooligans, a bunch of hooligans. Sure this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, take it. She's gonna have to take care of

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Speaker 2: About an hour after my niece found me, I was

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Speaker 1: How would they even know?

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Speaker 4: Security? You look, motherly, we're gonna you're supposed to watch the.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, these feel like they should be belonging to you.

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Speaker 2: My niece told me that they were her new brothers,

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Speaker 2: I asked them where my sister and their father were

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Speaker 2: nightmare scenario. This is horrific. No one was answering their phone,

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Speaker 1: There we go. Smart move.

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Speaker 2: They should definitely be paying for their children to exist.

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Speaker 2: This is not your responsibility. Eight kids, five boys, three girls,

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Speaker 2: That is a lot of mouths to feed. After they

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Speaker 2: It was a mess and there was no parent anywhere.

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Speaker 1: There I ran into some of the party. They were

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Speaker 4: Just didn't really pay them back.

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Speaker 1: What is this?

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Speaker 4: What do you mean they were fine? Yea, they're hungry.

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Speaker 2: I'm getting the sense that these parents are going to

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Speaker 1: Now, that's that's the.

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Speaker 4: Vibe I'm getting to get rid of them.

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Speaker 2: I can't even imagine a parent being anything other than

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Speaker 4: Watching my kids, I didn't know where they were. That

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Speaker 4: that's a right response, just like you're feeding it, Why

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Speaker 2: I was invited to go out to the family rehearsal

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Speaker 2: My sister said that her maid of honor was actually

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Speaker 1: Like a fool, I trusted her.

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Speaker 2: I got back from what was actually one of the

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Speaker 2: to go bring the leftovers to the girls, and I

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Speaker 1: Cowering in the corner while the boys literally tore up

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Speaker 2: Uh that is that neglect that I was like, neglect?

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Speaker 2: I don't think there's a fifteen year old. It doesn't

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Speaker 2: sound like they're doing anything. What why are you making

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Speaker 2: enough to be able to like take charge of a situation. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's like you can like make sure the kids don't

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Speaker 4: Room, No one's to watching them?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I don't know. That's a weird vibe. Why

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Speaker 2: I grabbed up all the girls and went to my

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Speaker 2: us in the boys room. They were holy terrors, but

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Speaker 2: they were hungry, holy terrors. Absolutely no one was answering

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Speaker 2: their phones. The next afternoon was the wedding. I got

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Speaker 2: the two girls ready. The other girls went back to

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Speaker 2: I showed up thirty minutes ahead of time and waited

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Speaker 2: and waited. The bride my sister was an hour late

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Speaker 2: to her own wedding. She showed up with no makeup

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Speaker 2: because there was no time to put it on. After

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Speaker 4: Did you had to watch the kids?

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Speaker 2: Dude, this your sister has completely taken advantage of you.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of it's disgusting.

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Speaker 2: I asked the maid of honor where I was supposed

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Speaker 2: and she told me I was to sit in the crowd.

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Speaker 2: I was not, it seems a bridesmaid. I did have

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Speaker 2: But I guess that they all decided to kick me out,

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Speaker 2: and nobody told me.

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Speaker 1: Oh boy, ohp I'm so sorry. Oh this is terrible.

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Speaker 2: This is crazy, man, You just like were like, went

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Speaker 2: from being a bridesmaid to being forced to be a

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Speaker 1: That's crazy.

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Speaker 2: I should have guessed, but I had a lot of

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Speaker 2: the wedding was reduced to just ten minutes. We then

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Speaker 2: rude to you to have the reception, and I was

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Speaker 2: forced to sit next to the family member.

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Speaker 1: Who abused me my whole life.

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Speaker 2: Whoa, this just keeps getting worse and the worse for OP.

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Speaker 1: This is terrible. This is the worst wedding ever.

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Speaker 2: The waiter made some very awful comments about that abuse.

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Speaker 2: He didn't know. He was just trying to be funny.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, oh my god. This is like, this

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Speaker 2: is the nightmare, just keeps getting worse. What My flight

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Speaker 2: was thankfully just an hour into the reception, so I

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Speaker 2: said goodbye to my dad and my niece, since my

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Speaker 2: turns out I was only invited to be a free babysitter.

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Speaker 2: My sister knew I didn't drink, so thought I would

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Speaker 2: be perfect to watch all the kids. There was no

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Speaker 2: point in telling me this, of course, as I was

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Speaker 2: the worthless, stupid middle sister. I have autism, and that's

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Speaker 2: been used as a way for my whole family to

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Speaker 2: when the care of people with disabilities was substandard at best.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 4: Oh, okay, dang, I'm so sorry, wild I feel I am.

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Speaker 1: Hey, my heart goes out to you. That's super rough.

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Speaker 2: But hey, the good news is that you don't have

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, honestly, now you know not to go to the

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Speaker 1: Not going, don't go.

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Speaker 2: About a week after the honeymoon was over, I sent

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Speaker 2: my sister the receipts for the food I bought the kids.

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Speaker 2: I had no idea who most of the kids were,

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Speaker 2: and so I just asked her to either ask them

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Speaker 2: could call them my niece. Obviously was on me. Neither

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Speaker 2: other kids who ate like they had never seen food. Overall,

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Speaker 2: I spent two hundred and fifty dollars of unplanned money

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Speaker 2: for the dress, three hundred for the flight, and the

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Speaker 2: thousand dollars for the hotel, not to mention the fifty

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, that is quite a lot to throw

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Speaker 1: down on the wedding, just.

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Speaker 2: To be forgotten, just to be made the babysitter who's

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Speaker 2: not even getting paid to be the babysitter.

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Speaker 1: My sister and her new husband make very good money.

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Speaker 2: While my husband and I live off of his disability

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Speaker 2: and I cared for him full time. So Jesse probably

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Speaker 2: didn't understand that this was an absolutely life ruining amount

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Speaker 1: But by the way, our lives.

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Speaker 2: Would be ruined if you didn't join us live on YouTube,

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Speaker 2: Facebook and Twitch every weekday at three pm when we

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Speaker 4: I feel like the parents could have maybe helped you

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Speaker 2: Bad, maybe the parents could have stepped up for one

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Speaker 2: literally just threw all of them into a hotel room

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Speaker 2: and left them and was like, yeah, oh, p's got it.

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Speaker 4: And then on top of that, dude, you're feeding them.

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Speaker 2: That's the weirdest part to me, taking them down to

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Speaker 1: You feeding them? They're fine?

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Speaker 4: They're fine.

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Speaker 1: What do you mean it's breakfast time? Dude? What? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is now the time where your kids eat? Are

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Speaker 1: you crazy?

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Speaker 4: I'd be going load to no contact with his sister.

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Speaker 4: I feel like holidays. Just be civil at holidays.

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Speaker 2: She was already I think at the beginning. She said

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Speaker 4: And she saw this, those opportunity to get closer.

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Speaker 2: Exactly, and it was like, yeah, it turns out she

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Speaker 2: don't have to look for any opportunities to get closer

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Speaker 2: to her, cause she doesn't view you as a person.

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Speaker 1: She views you as a tool to watch children. We heard.

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Speaker 2: When I mentioned the amount to my sister, she exploded

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Speaker 2: on me. No, she yelled for seven days. No, that

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Speaker 2: is not an exaggeration. My husband and I got call

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Speaker 2: after call, and when we stopped answering, she texted, sent

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Speaker 1: She then called every single family member and told them

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Speaker 2: What, and they all called, the texted and emailed as well,

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Speaker 2: telling me I should be ashamed of myself. Dude, Oh

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Speaker 2: my god, my voice mailbox was full of her screaming

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Speaker 2: at me. Basically how dare I ask her for money?

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Speaker 2: I chose to feed those kids after all? Do they

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Speaker 2: just do people think that kids don't need food?

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Speaker 1: Are these people completely brain dead?

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Speaker 4: They won't eat when I give them vegete, so they

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Speaker 4: don't need to eat at all.

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Speaker 1: Why are you feeding the kids? They're breathing, They've got air.

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Speaker 1: They've got plenty of air. Just let them lay out

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Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, my god.

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Speaker 1: She didn't ask me to watch them or care for them.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you did? I mean you? I mean, well,

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Speaker 1: did she know? Whatever?

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Speaker 2: He didn't ask me to watch them or care for them?

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Speaker 2: What I was a greedy, useless, disgusting pile of garbage.

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Speaker 2: I knew she wanted me to say that to her

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Speaker 2: and to agree that I was stupid and useless. But

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Speaker 2: I was working on my self esteem and my husband

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Speaker 2: told me I didn't need to do that anymore. But

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Speaker 2: after seven days of screaming, I gave in and told

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Speaker 1: Was sorry for causing such a big problem.

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00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:28,520
Speaker 2: After that, all of the contacts stopped, but I felt terrible.

448
00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: My dad slipped me a little bit of money, so

449
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,879
Speaker 2: we could make ends meet for the next few months.

450
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 2: This is a whole other kettle of fish as to

451
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 2: why he couldn't just help me. The marriage ended before

452
00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 2: the year was up. Oohyo, she's not in a happy

453
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:44,560
Speaker 2: marriage because she don't deserve it.

454
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: After the ye, she just did you so wrong like that? Holy,

455
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 1: that is wild.

456
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:52,560
Speaker 4: I have nothing to say able that.

457
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeahs I'm speechless.

458
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: I hope that you don't have to deal with your

459
00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 2: family very often ever.

460
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: Again, that's what I hope, a lee, And that is

461
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: the end of that story.

462
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 4: My sister's mother in law tried to control their wedding,

463
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,720
Speaker 4: so we did something petty.

464
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: I love a good petty off.

465
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:16,359
Speaker 4: Disclaimer, I do accept everyone from all over the world

466
00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:19,280
Speaker 4: and don't like to judge people based on where they

467
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 4: are or where their ancestors came from.

468
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,200
Speaker 1: Boy, I can already tell this one's gonna be interesting.

469
00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:26,920
Speaker 4: Also, Sorry but this post is long and a bit

470
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,240
Speaker 4: of a ramble and there may be be a few errors. Sorry.

471
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,360
Speaker 4: So this story is from a few years ago when

472
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,239
Speaker 4: my sister got married, but I love to tell it

473
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 4: and thought you might like it as well. So all

474
00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 4: names have been changed to protect the innocence.

475
00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: All names.

476
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,080
Speaker 2: I like how that was in all caps, like every

477
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 2: the beginning of every word was capitalized, so glad you

478
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: spell that out.

479
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:51,680
Speaker 1: All names have been changed to protect the innocent.

480
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,560
Speaker 4: By the way, this comes from Inevitable Crazy two seventy

481
00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,400
Speaker 4: five in the r so I show. Okay, storytime suburned.

482
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,359
Speaker 4: So my sister, who I will call Sarah, met her husband,

483
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 4: Jacob about eight years ago at work. They started dating

484
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,719
Speaker 4: a few months after and got engaged in twenty twenty

485
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,439
Speaker 4: and set a wedding date for twenty twenty two. Now,

486
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: the reason for the long dating and two year engagement

487
00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 4: was because of his mother, who I will call Irena Ena.

488
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 4: Now those stories are for another day. But oh boy,

489
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 4: did Arena try to pull stunts during the wedding planning

490
00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 4: and the actual wedding. Oh wow, thought, this is my

491
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 4: favorite story to tell about the wedding. Now, sorry for

492
00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 4: the long rambling background before I tell the wedding story,

493
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:35,640
Speaker 4: which is kind of short, but it helps with contexts.

494
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 4: I'm in the middle child of five in my family.

495
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 4: So my older sister, Lydia is six years older than

496
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,719
Speaker 4: I am, Melissa is four years older than me, Sarah

497
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,199
Speaker 4: is two years younger than I am and was the

498
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: baby of the family for a very long time until

499
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 4: our youngest sister, Sky was born. When Sarah was fourteen two,

500
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:56,840
Speaker 4: I made the cake. I'm a baker and have been

501
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 4: making desserts for family functions for twenty years since I

502
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 4: was ten. As baking is my passion. I'm a bit

503
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,159
Speaker 4: of a people pleaser when it comes to dietary needs

504
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,880
Speaker 4: and try to accommodate everyone. So I made both Lydia

505
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:13,320
Speaker 4: and Melissa wedding cakes. So it was very important to

506
00:24:13,359 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 4: Sarah that I make her cake.

507
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: Okay, that's fair. You don't want to be left out, No.

508
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 4: You gotta keep it going. Three. The bridal party consisted

509
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,439
Speaker 4: of Me, Maid of Honor, Lydia, Melissa who were bride'smaids,

510
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 4: and Sky was a flower girl along with Lydia's daughter,

511
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,000
Speaker 4: who was three years old at the time of the wedding.

512
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 4: Lydia's son, who was seven at the time, was the

513
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 4: ring bearer. The best man and the groovesmen were all

514
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,560
Speaker 4: good friends of Jacob. Four. All of us sisters can't

515
00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,639
Speaker 4: stand arena for many reasons, but one of the biggest

516
00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 4: reasons is because both of my parents passed away in

517
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,679
Speaker 4: a tragic accident shortly after Sarah started dating Jacob and

518
00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 4: my sister's mother in law, Arena had always wanted a

519
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 4: daughter but only had Jacob, so she was very excited

520
00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 4: when he found out Jacob was with someone who had

521
00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 4: four sisters. So she decided that because of our parents

522
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 4: were both dead, she would be a parent to both

523
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:05,840
Speaker 4: of us.

524
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,760
Speaker 1: I good God, that's like a lot to process. And

525
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: also what a run on sentence to.

526
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 4: Breathe four times even though four of us were adults.

527
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 4: She even went as far as to try to adopt

528
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,360
Speaker 4: Sky about eight months after our parents died. Even though

529
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 4: Sky was living a happy as she could with Lydia

530
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 4: and her husband and son, she made live a nightmare

531
00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: for Lydia, her husband, and Sky. What is wrong with

532
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 4: this woman?

533
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 1: Sounds like she's got problems.

534
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 4: P r ops, that's how you spell it. Five. Jacob's

535
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 4: parents hated each other. Don't know why they got married

536
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 4: in the first place. Divorced when he was two and

537
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 4: his dad was a baker. Died when he was twelve

538
00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 4: of cancer.

539
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 2: Okay, oh that's why, because it's he got like baker's lung.

540
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 2: Oh wow, he got he got the carbon o the burnt,

541
00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 2: the burnt stuff, and his lungs probably Okay.

542
00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,760
Speaker 4: Now, with the background out of the way, here is

543
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,639
Speaker 4: the story of Arena and the wedding cake. About a

544
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 4: month after the engagement was announced, Arena and her husband,

545
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 4: who I will call Elmer, invited us to celebrate Sarah

546
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,679
Speaker 4: and Jacob's engagement. After dinner, Arena had pulled out a

547
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 4: binder I guess she made. It was literally titled Mine

548
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 4: and Jacob's Perfect Wedding. Inside was all sorts of details

549
00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 4: such as venue locations, guest lists, four different bridal dresses

550
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 4: for everybody's body types, what type of food was going

551
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 4: to be served, how the cake should look, what she

552
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,399
Speaker 4: Arena was going to wear, etcetera, etcetera. Hey, are you

553
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 4: getting married to your son?

554
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:41,200
Speaker 1: Dude?

555
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 2: Like? Why looks like Mine and Jacob's perfect wedding? Hey,

556
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 2: me and Jacob, that's not even how you do that?

557
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,879
Speaker 2: Me and Jacobs, Jacob and eyes. Yeah, and it should

558
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 2: have Sarah's name on it and it shouldn't even be

559
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 2: your binder grammar man over there, what I can't that's unhinged, dude,

560
00:26:57,720 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 2: for the.

561
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: Mom to be like my wedding with my son, Eh.

562
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: Sarah looked at Jacob in horror and asked him if

563
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 4: he had already planned the wedding with his mother.

564
00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't. No, you gotta be like no, no

565
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,560
Speaker 1: no no no no no no no.

566
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,439
Speaker 4: No no, you gotta throw that bonder in the trash.

567
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 4: Jacob denied knowing anything about this, turned to his mother

568
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 4: in horror and told her in no uncertain terms if

569
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 4: she tried to give her opinions, Arena just said, well,

570
00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,199
Speaker 4: this is going to give Emily me some ideas for

571
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,639
Speaker 4: the cake since she's doing it. I simply replied coolly

572
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 4: that I only take the bride and groom's opinions.

573
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: Boom because it's their wedding. You goofy, what are you doing?

574
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,880
Speaker 4: Flash forward a year Sarah, Jacob and I sat down

575
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 4: at her place to discuss wedding desserts. We talked for

576
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,239
Speaker 4: a while about what treats they wanted. After some back

577
00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 4: and forth, because they just wanted simple desserts so as

578
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,480
Speaker 4: not to add much onto already my long to do

579
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,439
Speaker 4: list for the wedding, they finally decided to go for

580
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 4: a dessert bar of Minnie Brownie, many Lemon short bread tarts,

581
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,960
Speaker 4: and many chocolate chip cookies along with some fruit so

582
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 4: everyone could sample a little bit of everything before we

583
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 4: started talking about the cake.

584
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're like, we want to make sure that you

585
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 2: don't have too much to do, so make four different

586
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 2: desserts please, and make it enough for the entire wedding party.

587
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 4: Thanks. No, they're not the bad guy. Leave them out

588
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 4: of this.

589
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, they're not bad.

590
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,880
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, okay, okay, sorry sorry, sorry, kind Yeah whatever.

591
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 4: Sarah and James wanted a show stopper, three tiered all

592
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 4: white cake with two faked tears at the top to

593
00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 4: be real for just them to eat, and no Fonda

594
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 4: anywhere on the cake. The flavor was to be vanilla

595
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 4: with vanilla butter because they want to enjoy all of

596
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,800
Speaker 4: the other desserts. They also wanted three flavors of cupcakes

597
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,200
Speaker 4: around them for guests to eat. As we were getting

598
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 4: ready to talk cake flavors, Arena walked into the apartment

599
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 4: uninvited and just sat down and gave me a list

600
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: of all the desserts she had already told her list

601
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 4: of guests. Six flavors of macaroons, four kinds of chocolate truffles, brownies, blondes,

602
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 4: and ice cream bar with five different kinds of homemade

603
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 4: ice creams.

604
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:10,120
Speaker 1: My god, this is not your wedding woman.

605
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 2: Me and Jacob's wedding. Come on, Sorry, not read the binder, dude. No,

606
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 2: I sorry, I didn't respect the buyder. That's that's my bad.

607
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 2: That's my bad.

608
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,240
Speaker 4: Jacob, being done with this mother's games, told Arena that

609
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: I am the maid honor and I will be doing

610
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,240
Speaker 4: a few things and her opinions aren't welcome. Then try

611
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: to drag her out of the apartment. Unfortunately, she saw

612
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 4: that sketch I did for the cake and screamed that

613
00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 4: I saw her idea for the cake and now I

614
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,640
Speaker 4: had to let her design it.

615
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: Hey, shut up.

616
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 4: Jacob eventually got his mother down to her car and

617
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:44,640
Speaker 4: all was quiet. Right wrong, wrong.

618
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:45,960
Speaker 1: See.

619
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 4: Later that week, Linda, Melissa, Sarah skuy and I met

620
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: up for our monthly sister dinner slash activity. It's the

621
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 4: one time a month we all set aside significant others, kids,

622
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 4: Linda's work, friends, and to do lists just to spend

623
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 4: an even together.

624
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: We've been doing.

625
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 4: This since our parents passed away and it's so special

626
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 4: for us. So we get to the restaurant we always

627
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 4: go to and order our dinners. While waiting for our dinners,

628
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 4: Arena walks in and pulls up a chair beside me

629
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 4: and tries to tell me, since I copied her idea,

630
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 4: I have to let her design the cake. I have

631
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 4: to you have to let me design it out. What

632
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 4: do you mean copy her idea?

633
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 1: It's like I.

634
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,440
Speaker 4: Already did have most of it. Let me do the

635
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 4: rest of it right now?

636
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 2: The first person to come up with a multi tiered

637
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 2: wedding cake, you it is?

638
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Have you not read the binder?

639
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:32,760
Speaker 2: Is?

640
00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I didn't read the binder. Stop stop it

641
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: make you feel bad about.

642
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 4: Freaking binder d She hands me this god awful drawing

643
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 4: that I'm pretty sure looks like a toddler drew with

644
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,800
Speaker 4: it with notes, telling me that it was to be

645
00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 4: a rich chocolate cake flavor with lemon curd feeling, covered

646
00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 4: in white ganesh and white fonded. What Jake with lemon kurdfhill.

647
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 2: You're like, it's I want you now, you I have

648
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: to design the cake, and I wanted I want to

649
00:31:06,280 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: design the worst possible cake, chocolate lemon.

650
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 4: I told her I was not discussing any details of

651
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 4: the cake with her, and to leave before I drank

652
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,560
Speaker 4: her butt outside she threw it tantrum, calling me a

653
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: plagiarizer and screamed at me. She calls so much of

654
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 4: a scene that the cops were called and she was

655
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: trespassed from the restaurant.

656
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: Oh my way, She cried plagiarism over cake designs like

657
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 2: what like it was a high school home ech classys

658
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 2: like you copied my final project, teacher, teacher, she played rised.

659
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 4: After dinner, we went mini golfing and we started discussing

660
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 4: the wedding when Sky got a big grin on her

661
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 4: face and asked if I could incorporate the Dutch flag

662
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 4: into the cake. Okay, see A detail I forgot to

663
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 4: mention is Jacob's dad was Dutch. Arena however, is not,

664
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 4: and because of her hatred for her ex husband, she

665
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 4: hates all the Dutch. I thought about it for a

666
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 4: moment when an idea came to me and I told

667
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 4: Sarah about it, and she said, do it.

668
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Speaker 1: See.

669
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 4: My idea was to make the tear they cut into

670
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 4: look like the Dutch flag. From the outside, it looks

671
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 4: all white until they cut into it. Flash forward to

672
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 4: the wedding of reception. Everything went as bumpy as you

673
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 4: would expect with Arena as you're soon to be mother

674
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 4: in law until the cake cutting, when Jacob and Sarah

675
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 4: cut the cake and pulled out a slice, and he

676
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 4: started tearing up at the sight of the Dutch flag

677
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 4: and the cake. He then spun the cake around so

678
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: everyone could see it. As he was saying a few

679
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:39,200
Speaker 4: words thanking his bride for including his father in such

680
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 4: a small but meaningful way, he was cut off by

681
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 4: a high pitched shriek. Arena, who was sitting at a

682
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: table just a few feet to the right of the cake,

683
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 4: started screaming incoherently and running towards us, and before picking

684
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 4: up the cake and throwing it towards me, who was

685
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 4: sitting at the head on the table on the left

686
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 4: hand side of the cake. Hurrah, Hurlarously, she missed and

687
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 4: the cake fell on the floor. Soon we could finally

688
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 4: understand what she was saying. She was screaming about how

689
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 4: there we represent the Netherlands when their country of ancestry

690
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 4: wasn't represented. She screamed that we should have placed Russia's

691
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 4: flag in the cake to honor her as the only

692
00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:22,160
Speaker 4: living parent of the couple. At that point, everyone and

693
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 4: everything went silent. See she's only one sixteenth of rush old.

694
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, this woman.

695
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: Is what is a is fictitious? She's gotta be No

696
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: one is this awful of a person. Like, if this

697
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: wasn't a wedding, it would still be bad. But the

698
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,240
Speaker 2: fact that it's your own son's wedding that you're doing

699
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 2: this at get a grip.

700
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: While my sister and I are one fourth Ukrainian.

701
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:54,000
Speaker 2: Oh god, well, I'm sure that there's no tensions about that.

702
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: I'm sure our.

703
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 4: Late mother's grandparents were all born and raised in Ukraine

704
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,479
Speaker 4: and immigrated to this country at very ages. And hopefully

705
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 4: you can immigrate to see us live every weekday at

706
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Speaker 4: three PMPST. Just tap our profile and join us on YouTube,

707
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Speaker 4: Facebook and Twitch.

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Speaker 2: That's right, Well, I would certainly not want the mother

709
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 2: in law around.

710
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 4: Yeah no, moving forward, Yeah no, she has shown her

711
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 4: true colors, her true flag colors.

712
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,400
Speaker 2: No. I mean, can you I understand not in Viking,

713
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 2: your you know, ex husband, but maybe like put it

714
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 2: aside for one moment your son's wedding.

715
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 4: Hello, that's crazy girl. That was the final straw. He

716
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 4: had security drag her out, and that was the last

717
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:41,640
Speaker 4: time he spoke with his mother.

718
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:42,040
Speaker 5: Wow.

719
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: Now two years later, she tried to reach out, but

720
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 4: Jacob remained firm in avoiding her. They moved to the

721
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 4: other side of the country and are very happy and

722
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,440
Speaker 4: have a wonderful childless elderly next door neighbors who dope

723
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,560
Speaker 4: on their baby, who dote on their baby. That's the story.

724
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,600
Speaker 4: I can tell more stories about Arena in the next

725
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: few years. I had to put up with her. That's it, Wow, girl,

726
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 4: she is Insano.

727
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 1: I hope you never have to put up with her

728
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: ever again. And I applaud your husband for immediately cutting

729
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: him off.

730
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: Yes, exactly, And that's the end of the story.

731
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,239
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Speaker 5: My best friend never put any effort into our friendship,

736
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 5: so I tested her.

737
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 1: Orange Pool names have been changed.

738
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Speaker 5: I twenty seven female, was best friends with Victoria twenty

739
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 5: five female for almost five years. Victoria and I met

740
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,160
Speaker 5: while working part time at a local smoothie shop in

741
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 5: our city, and over time we became close friends. Although

742
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 5: she was two to three years younger than me, we

743
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 5: had a lot in common and we quickly became inseparable.

744
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 4: Look, it's a smoothie duo, the Smoothie Girls. It's Banana

745
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 4: and Strawberry.

746
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from Puzzle Queen eight one

747
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 5: to one on the Okay Storytime suppered it. I also

748
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 5: quickly became a part of her family, as her parents

749
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 5: and siblings really liked me, and as we had built

750
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:04,360
Speaker 5: up a strong level of trust and respect. I was

751
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 5: that one friend who her parents would also trust and

752
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 5: always say yes to her doing things if I was

753
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: going with her. Basically, in their eyes, I became an

754
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:15,399
Speaker 5: honorary big sister toer and child to them, which made

755
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 5: me really happy. Due to our small age difference, there

756
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 5: were two years where we weren't able to hang out

757
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 5: as often. As I was in college finishing up my degree,

758
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 5: I traveled home very often as my university was only

759
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 5: two hours away from my hometown and as I didn't

760
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 5: have many friends. One thing to know about me is

761
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 5: I am one of those people who has a very

762
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 5: small friend group because I'm very introverted.

763
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Speaker 1: Got it.

764
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 5: Because of this, I am extremely loyal to those people

765
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,359
Speaker 5: I consider friends and will do almost anything I can

766
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: to keep those friendships strong and alive. After I graduated

767
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 5: from college, I returned to my hometown for two months

768
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 5: before moving with my father to another state where he

769
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,719
Speaker 5: would retire. This was only supposed to be a temporary thing,

770
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 5: and my plan was to move back to my hometown

771
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 5: once my father was all set up and after I

772
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 5: landed a full time position. A few months had passed,

773
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 5: I made numerous trips back home to spend time with

774
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,560
Speaker 5: Victoria and my two other friends, to celebrate her birthday

775
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 5: and keep plans we had previously made.

776
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: I see you also.

777
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 5: At this time, I was in the final stages of

778
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 5: a few interviews to land a full time job. However,

779
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 5: all of this came to a complete halt when COVID started.

780
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:28,960
Speaker 5: Two weeks became two months, which eventually became almost two years,

781
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 5: and as you might assume, my plans to move back

782
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 5: home never worked out. In order to not waste time

783
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 5: during COVID, I went back to school for my master's

784
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:41,600
Speaker 5: degree and eventually found a part time, in reality, a

785
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 5: full time job to help pay for my education. During

786
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 5: this entire time, I never lost hope for my dream

787
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 5: of moving back to my hometown. It was around this

788
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 5: time that I started to notice a difference in victorian

789
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Speaker 5: Ized friendship.

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Speaker 1: Hmmm, very peculia.

791
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 5: I continued to make trips back home for special occasions

792
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 5: so we could hang out and try to keep connected

793
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,960
Speaker 5: through text when I couldn't. Victoria had always mentioned she

794
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 5: would make a trip to come see me and we

795
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 5: could make plans to do a girl's trip, but those

796
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,959
Speaker 5: plans never left our text chats. Ah, they never got

797
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 5: out of the group chat. This continued for about one

798
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 5: and a half to two years, and eventually I found

799
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 5: a full time job, my first career job, and my

800
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 5: dreams of moving back home were effectively canceled. Eventually, I

801
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 5: met my now fiance, thirty one mail WHOA. We moved

802
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 5: in together. Due to his job, we had to move

803
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 5: again to another state that put more distance between Victoria

804
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 5: and I. My fiance knows about my friendship with Victoria

805
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 5: and how hard I tried to keep it going. He

806
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 5: also knew how the strong sense of one sidedness saddened

807
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 5: me and often caused me to question if I was

808
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 5: good enough friend to her or for her.

809
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 4: Dang.

810
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 5: He eventually convinced me to do a friendship test with

811
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 5: her to see if she'd ever start a conversation or

812
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,399
Speaker 5: reach out without me having to do so firstla. As

813
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 5: you can expect, Victoria never reached out and has been

814
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 5: almost a year since we last spoke to each other.

815
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:06,600
Speaker 4: Damn.

816
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 5: Three weeks ago, my fiance proposed congrats crats. I was

817
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:13,840
Speaker 5: ecstatic and shared the news on my social media. Victoria

818
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 5: and I still follow each other, and she reached out

819
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:16,960
Speaker 5: to congratulate us.

820
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 4: I see you.

821
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 5: We had a small conversation and she eventually asked when

822
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 5: the wedding was going to be because she was excited

823
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: to attend.

824
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: And be a maid of honor girl be a bridesmaid.

825
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 5: That's not weird. That'd be like, Yeah, I can't wait

826
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 5: to attend the wedding that you haven't invited me to yet.

827
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 5: I was a little shocked by this and made the

828
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 5: hard decision of letting her know that she wasn't going

829
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 5: to be invited.

830
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 2: WHOA.

831
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:41,560
Speaker 5: She became upset and demanded to know why, and when

832
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: I explained about the friendship test and my feelings about

833
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 5: the one sidedness of our friendship over the past three

834
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 5: to four years, she said that was stupid and called

835
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 5: me an ahole for doing a friendship test on her.

836
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,760
Speaker 4: Okay, so past three to four years has been like this. Yeah,

837
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 4: that's that is tough.

838
00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 5: For many years I thought Victoria would be my maid

839
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: of honor at my wedding, and it hurt me deeply.

840
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 5: When our friendship ended. I question if I was in

841
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 5: the wrong for doing a friendship test on her, and

842
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 5: should I have tried harder to keep our friendship alive.

843
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 5: So am I the ale and there is an edit.

844
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,320
Speaker 4: Ah the friendship test.

845
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:17,719
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't think it's great, but also it

846
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,720
Speaker 5: just doesn't seem like you guys were that good of friends.

847
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have solely put it on the friendship test.

848
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 5: Yes, I don't think your friendship was over because of

849
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,959
Speaker 5: the friendship test. Edit to answer some questions I've seen

850
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,440
Speaker 5: below and address some of the comments made. I had

851
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: discussed with her previously my concerns about our friendship fading

852
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 5: away and how I wished we could keep what we

853
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 5: originally had. I expressed this to her many times, and

854
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 5: each time she would express how she also wanted that

855
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 5: and would promise to put more effort into our friendship

856
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 5: and communicating. So really, OP did communicate all of this,

857
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 5: and the friendship test was just her being like, Okay,

858
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 5: you know what I can't do this anymore. It was

859
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 5: only after months of seeing these promises not being kept

860
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,880
Speaker 5: that I decided to do this friendship test. As long

861
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 5: as I've known Victoria, she's never had any social problems

862
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 5: or disorders such as add ADHD, etc. I know it's

863
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 5: possible that this could have developed later in life, but

864
00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 5: she's someone who is very expressive and posts about her

865
00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 5: life and her struggles, and she's never made any posts

866
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 5: discussing issues such as these. The word test might not

867
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 5: have been the right descriptor to describe my actions, but

868
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 5: it seemed like the simplest term to use in general.

869
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 5: I wanted to see if she would ever start a

870
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 5: conversation with me first, or take initiative to try and

871
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 5: do so. She has many other friends that are in

872
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 5: similar situations as I am. By this, I mean they

873
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,760
Speaker 5: have moved away from college or moved and she always

874
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:35,960
Speaker 5: talked about how much effort she put into keeping in

875
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 5: touch with them and how she even visited them. I

876
00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: am not the only one from her friend group that

877
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 5: left the area. Prior to this test. I tried to

878
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 5: keep in contact with her, often sending her life updates,

879
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,879
Speaker 5: asking how she is, congratulating her on milestones and life

880
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,480
Speaker 5: events such as birthdays, sending her gifts, and taking charge

881
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 5: on planning trips back and working my schedule around when

882
00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 5: she was available.

883
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 4: Do you think she may have been with another person

884
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: or like with this significant other.

885
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:02,799
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if it necessarily matters, because

886
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 5: I feel like like, even if you have a significant other,

887
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 5: if you're not giving time to your friends, then it's

888
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,399
Speaker 5: just they don't have to be your friend. Yeah, you know,

889
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: she would either respond with one message and then keep

890
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 5: me on red or not respond at all. By the way,

891
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 5: we will always respond to you if you join us

892
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 5: live every weekday through PMPSD on YouTube. Just tap her profile.

893
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:23,839
Speaker 5: She's made comments the last time I went to see her,

894
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 5: when we hung out with some of her friends at

895
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 5: a family event that started this whole test process, such

896
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,440
Speaker 5: as I have the locations of all my friends on

897
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,000
Speaker 5: my phone, even those in different states. We did not

898
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 5: do this. Sarah fake name is so busy, but I

899
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 5: made sure to text her once every two weeks to

900
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,319
Speaker 5: check in and others that made it seem like she

901
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,240
Speaker 5: was letting me know we weren't friends anymore. After reading

902
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 5: some of your comments, I reached out to her again

903
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 5: to try and understand her side of the situation. She

904
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 5: stated it was my fault for moving away and that

905
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 5: it was on me to keep the friendship alive. I

906
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 5: shouldn't expect her to visit me and put in more

907
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 5: effort when I was the reason all of this started.

908
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,319
Speaker 5: I asked her why she was able to keep in

909
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,760
Speaker 5: contact with other friends in similar situations, and she didn't answer,

910
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 5: just kept saying if I wanted a friendship, then it

911
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 5: was my responsibility to keep in touch, and she'll respond

912
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 5: if she remembers and or wants to. That's so messed

913
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 5: up that it gets your responsible to keep in touch.

914
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 5: And I'll do it if I want to.

915
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:22,239
Speaker 4: And as I've settled the show many, many, many of times, Yeah,

916
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 4: I always encourage friendships that you're excited to be around. Yeah,

917
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 4: I can't wait to be with this person. Yeah.

918
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 5: Yeah, So your friends are like exhausting you every time

919
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 5: you see them. Road, it's the road, Jack, don't you

920
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 5: come back? But that is the end of that story.

921
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 4: My best friends started ghosting me after I got engaged.

922
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 4: Now I think our twelve year relationship is over. So,

923
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 4: as the title says, my female thirty two best friend

924
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 4: female thirty one let's call her opal in into our relationship,

925
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 4: Oh my gosh. Ended our relationship in August after a

926
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 4: big misunderstanding along with some odd behavior leading up to

927
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 4: the misunderstanding. By the way, this comes from sparkle Bunny

928
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,319
Speaker 4: on the r slash Okay story Tom Subredd. So some

929
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 4: general background on us and the situation. Ople and I

930
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 4: met twelve years ago in college and were instantly best friends.

931
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 4: Love that we shared the same hobbies, interests, and most

932
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,280
Speaker 4: of the same values. Both super nerdy too and into

933
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 4: fantasy slash gaming relevant things nice. About six years ago,

934
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,480
Speaker 4: I moved out of state for a bit and Opel

935
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 4: met a group of people at work who played D

936
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 4: and D and she joined their group and shared their

937
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,919
Speaker 4: adventure stories with me all the time. When I moved

938
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 4: back to my home state in twenty twenty two, Ople

939
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: kept saying I need to meet the DM Dungeon Masters

940
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,080
Speaker 4: for those who may not know of the Dungeons and

941
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 4: Dragon group as well as joined the group let's call

942
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 4: DM mail thirty one Mark Mark. I finally agreed and

943
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 4: asked to join the group. When I did, Mark and

944
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 4: I clicked instantly and became fast friends. And lovers. Woo,

945
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 4: not just fast friends, but I'm calling lovers.

946
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: Ooh.

947
00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 4: Then in early twenty three, he asked me out and we.

948
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 5: Began dating best friends and lovers.

949
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 4: I discovered later that Opel and the others a bit

950
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 4: all help set us up.

951
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,320
Speaker 5: Shout out Opel at that moment.

952
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:23,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, with Opel encouraging him to ask me out before

953
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 4: he'd work up the nerve to do so.

954
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 5: Love this, Wow, love this. Wing woman, wing Woman of

955
00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:29,439
Speaker 5: the Year.

956
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 4: When I told her he asked me out, and she

957
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 4: said she was ecstatic for me, even saying she better

958
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:39,000
Speaker 4: be my bait of honor because she set this all up,

959
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,399
Speaker 4: and that I had to name a child after her.

960
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:42,960
Speaker 1: Hahaha.

961
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 4: All seemed great.

962
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 5: It seems everything's working out. We love it.

963
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: Now to the main situation. A few months into Marx

964
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:52,640
Speaker 4: and I's relationship, I ended up evicted from my family's

965
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: house because they disapprove of Marx because he's a DM.

966
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 5: He's a DM, he's just a little bit too dangerous.

967
00:45:58,719 --> 00:45:59,479
Speaker 5: It's a bad boy.

968
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 4: I had either the streets or his place to go.

969
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,759
Speaker 4: He and I had a plan to live together so

970
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,600
Speaker 4: early in our romantic relationship, but circumstances forced it. Ople

971
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,680
Speaker 4: helped me tremendously getting my belongings moved over, and she

972
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 4: was fantastic at first.

973
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 5: Oh oh, Paul, what did you do?

974
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 4: After about a month of me living with Mark, Ople

975
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,800
Speaker 4: suddenly said she thought we were getting too serious too quickly.

976
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 5: Well, you literally wanted them to name their child after you.

977
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 4: She also started acting cooler slash colder towards me, not

978
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 4: responding as much to my messages, and in general being

979
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 4: very short in her replies. I knew that she had

980
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 4: mentioned back in twenty twenty two that she and Mark

981
00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:45,880
Speaker 4: and another person were thinking about finding a place together,

982
00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 4: so I would mention how excited I was about living

983
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 4: with her too, but she downplayed it big time and

984
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 4: made it clear that she wasn't saving up after all.

985
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:59,920
Speaker 4: Then she started coming more erratically to dungeons and dragon sessions,

986
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 4: were canceling coming to hangouts with us and instead went

987
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 4: to conventions or some other events on her off days.

988
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: Other than that, when she started suddenly prioritizing so much

989
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 4: over me, her and I got annoyed but tried to

990
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 4: brush it off. Okay, she's super busy and has a

991
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 4: successful life. Knowing this, I would take her to lunch

992
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 4: slash dinner, and through a birthday party when her family

993
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 4: couldn't invited her out, et cetera. Then around October to

994
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:30,280
Speaker 4: November last year, her family was threatened with an eviction

995
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: due to some issues with their apartment. The day they

996
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 4: needed to fix the apartment cleaning up Big Tom, the

997
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 4: group had a D and D session. Looking back, I

998
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 4: wish i'd cancel it, but we asked her if she

999
00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 4: and her family were okay. She said some friends slash

1000
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,280
Speaker 4: coworkers and other family were going to help them out,

1001
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 4: but never asked our group for help. But I really

1002
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 4: thought by saying she had others Opel was saying it

1003
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 4: was okay. As it turned out, the people who promised

1004
00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 4: them to help never showed up. We, or at least

1005
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: I did it hear about that until after the fact.

1006
00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,480
Speaker 5: I think if I probably would have been like, hey,

1007
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,560
Speaker 5: do you need help, I probably would have offered it. It

1008
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:09,400
Speaker 5: doesn't sound like they offered it necessarily. No, But I

1009
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:11,279
Speaker 5: mean it's not necessarily. It's not their fault. But I

1010
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 5: think I probably would have offered. If my friend said.

1011
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 4: Ham moving or something, yeah, I'd be like, Okay, let

1012
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 4: me help you out.

1013
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, Like do you need any extral Oh yeah.

1014
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: I felt awful, but I offered to help the following

1015
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 4: week they got an extension if possible offer was refused

1016
00:48:26,719 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 4: with help was needed last week. Come on. Despite her

1017
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 4: not saying she needed help until it was too late,

1018
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:34,759
Speaker 4: I still made efforts after that to check in on

1019
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 4: her if I heard for Christmas get togethers and all that,

1020
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 4: and she started to seem almost normal again. They weren't evicted. Luckily,

1021
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 4: we had a good party after years and all seemed okayish.

1022
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 4: She was still acting cold like she had after Mark

1023
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:54,000
Speaker 4: and I moved in until late February slash early March.

1024
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,880
Speaker 4: Mark asked me what style rings I liked. I was

1025
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 4: super excited. He wanted to torment me with anticipation, so

1026
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: of course I messaged her about the ring he was hunting,

1027
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: and she suddenly left our mutual friends group chat and

1028
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:11,839
Speaker 4: told me we needed to talk.

1029
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 5: I wonder if she's like jealous of Mark, like she wanted.

1030
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:15,879
Speaker 4: To be with Mark, and I thought it would be yeah,

1031
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 4: oh yeah, dude, oh yeah, because she was like, oh Mark,

1032
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:21,319
Speaker 4: I'll be a good friend. I'll be a good friend

1033
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 4: of the D and D. Let's get them together, guys,

1034
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 4: this will be so fun, and I think she was

1035
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: probably the most excited about it. She was masking.

1036
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,560
Speaker 5: She's like, that's great. I'm so glad you like her.

1037
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 5: I love this. But the whole time she was like,

1038
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:35,440
Speaker 5: they're not gonna last.

1039
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 4: So we met up mid March twenty twenty four, and

1040
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 4: she told me how upset she was about me not

1041
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,479
Speaker 4: showing up, and how I relied on her and Mark

1042
00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 4: too much for emotional support, and that I let the

1043
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 4: others in the group chat be mean to her. I

1044
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 4: tried to listen and remain calm, but it came off

1045
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 4: so aggressive that I got defensive not proud here. And

1046
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,319
Speaker 4: while I didn't insult her, I asked her sarcastically, how

1047
00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 4: else have I been a whole friend?

1048
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 3: Then?

1049
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 4: Please tell me? I am. After about an hour of

1050
00:50:04,080 --> 00:50:07,240
Speaker 4: us arguing, neither of us handled it well, and I'll admit,

1051
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,640
Speaker 4: she stormed out without another word. Yeah.

1052
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:12,279
Speaker 5: It seems like just a lot of miscommunication going on

1053
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 5: here and just not healthily, you know, dealing with their

1054
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:16,960
Speaker 5: airing out their problems.

1055
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 4: Everyone's beating her on the bush. Yeah, tell her how

1056
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 4: it is. Hey, come, I need your help?

1057
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1058
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,399
Speaker 5: Should I mean? Yeah? On Opal's end, she should have said, hey,

1059
00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,640
Speaker 5: I need some help here, and on their end, I

1060
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 5: probably would have offered exactly.

1061
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 4: After gooling down and really looking at the situation and

1062
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 4: seeing the recent ish interview of Blink one point eight

1063
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 4: two where they mentioned putting their egos aside, I decided

1064
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:42,880
Speaker 4: to do just that and put my own ego aside

1065
00:50:42,880 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 4: and apologize to her from my side of things, pride

1066
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,919
Speaker 4: my eyes out while typing her the message about being

1067
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,160
Speaker 4: sorry I wasn't there to help and for arguing instead

1068
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 4: of just hearing her out, et cetera. It was just hard,

1069
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 4: but I apologize without blaming her at all, and then

1070
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,719
Speaker 4: asked if we can meet up again so I could

1071
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 4: say sorry in person and be willing to really hear

1072
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 4: her out this time.

1073
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 5: Oh wait, that's a good response. I think that's really nice.

1074
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,319
Speaker 4: Finally, after a bit, I tried to reach out again

1075
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,719
Speaker 4: and apologize, ask her how I can make it up.

1076
00:51:13,840 --> 00:51:17,160
Speaker 4: She said we were over that in August and about

1077
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: a week after Mark proposed to me, which of course

1078
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 4: I'm ecstatic about. It's almost two months after she ended us,

1079
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,799
Speaker 4: and I am all over the place. I'm almost numb,

1080
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 4: but sad in her and confused I was there for

1081
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,920
Speaker 4: her throughout the twelve years, even when I was long distance,

1082
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 4: staying up listening to her, taking her own trips, and

1083
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: she had become basically a member of my family. Her

1084
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 4: mom loved me and I got along with her. Aunts.

1085
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 4: I've lost the sister and it hurts so bad. You

1086
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 4: can never lose us if you join us live every

1087
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: weekday at three pmpist.

1088
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 5: Just do what tap our profile.

1089
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 4: Sorry it's a long and thank you for listening to

1090
00:51:54,239 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 4: my rent. My biggest questions are am I crazy that

1091
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,080
Speaker 4: I seemed like she was actually upset about Mark? And

1092
00:52:00,080 --> 00:52:03,320
Speaker 4: I become serious, but couldn't admit it. I asked because

1093
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,800
Speaker 4: the timing in her cutting me off when she knew

1094
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:09,880
Speaker 4: that he was proposing, what I think, and also the

1095
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 4: fact that she blames me not showing up despite the

1096
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 4: fact no one else showed up. She remained close to

1097
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 4: all of them but only cut me off.

1098
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 5: Well, all the things that we know, we know. She

1099
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,960
Speaker 5: was upset that you didn't come help her out. She

1100
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 5: was upset that you and Mark were moving in together,

1101
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 5: and then you were you about.

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Speaker 1: To get proposed yep.

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Speaker 4: And then whenever they didn't help out, they were like

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Speaker 4: it was your fault, you and Mark's fault. My other question,

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00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 4: should I just let this all go or block her

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00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,240
Speaker 4: reach out to ask for closure. I thought about writing

1107
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 4: her letter or something, but it would just be pointless

1108
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:45,200
Speaker 4: and hurting myself more. Am I the jerk here? Or

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00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:46,240
Speaker 4: are we both jerks?

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00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 5: I think you were both jerks, But now you apologized,

1111
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:53,879
Speaker 5: so you're in the clear. I think you can only

1112
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 5: do There's nothing more you can do right now.

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Speaker 1: No, I don't think block. I don't think you should block.

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Speaker 4: No, I don't block her.

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00:52:59,560 --> 00:53:01,600
Speaker 5: That's a little too far. But I do think just

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00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 5: you know, maybe she'll come around. Maybe she won't. You've

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00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 5: done your part.

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00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, agreed, agreed.

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Speaker 5: M hmm.

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Speaker 4: As soon of that story, we got another one for

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Speaker 4: you guys.

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00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:13,319
Speaker 1: Hey, it's John you og host here. We're gonna get

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00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:14,879
Speaker 1: back to the stories. But he's a quick three minute

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Speaker 1: break of as from our sponsors.

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Speaker 5: My best friend got engaged, but I was in love

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00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 5: with him. No tragedy. Twenty eight male and twenty eight female.

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00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 5: He was my best friend anyway. We'll call him Jake.

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Speaker 5: We met the summer before our freshman year of high

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00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 5: school and ended up going to homecoming together. He was

1130
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 5: my first kiss during a slow dance. Oh, he looked

1131
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,120
Speaker 5: at me, said my name, and kissed me. We dated

1132
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,040
Speaker 5: for a few months, but we were just kids.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 5: By the way, this comes from E Girl eight thirteen

1135
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 5: on the Okay Storytime Subparate. So we decided we'd be

1136
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 5: better off as friends, and so we spent all of

1137
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 5: high school being the best of friends. We had a

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00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,920
Speaker 5: group of about eight very close friends, six guys and

1139
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 5: two girls. I know what you're thinking, No, she and

1140
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 5: I didn't have any type of relationship beyond friendship with

1141
00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 5: any of them aside from me and Jake. We'd all

1142
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 5: spend as much time as possible together at Jake's house,

1143
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 5: lying on the basement floor, talking and laughing about philosophy, dreams,

1144
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 5: space history, sports, girls and guys we liked and disliked

1145
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 5: all between bites of pizza. Oh, what is this that

1146
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 5: seventies show?

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00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:21,719
Speaker 1: Come on?

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00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 5: Jake and I had a special kind of friendship and

1149
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:27,520
Speaker 5: everyone knew it, but nobody, including us, knew how to

1150
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 5: describe it. We just understood each other and always looked

1151
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 5: out for each other. He was there for me when

1152
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,520
Speaker 5: things got rough at home, and I was there for

1153
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 5: him through countless injuries and heartbreaks. He's a very clumsy,

1154
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,400
Speaker 5: very loving goofball. We couldn't help but smile when we

1155
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 5: were together, and I never felt so at home with

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00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,120
Speaker 5: another person in my life.

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00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 4: Ah stop it.

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00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:50,760
Speaker 5: I always encouraged him to do what made him happy,

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00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,400
Speaker 5: even if it seemed crazy, and he did the same

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00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:53,640
Speaker 5: for me.

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00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:54,160
Speaker 1: Once.

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00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 5: He even packed his car full of our friends to

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00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,759
Speaker 5: drive to my college and make me come home for

1164
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 5: the weekend, just because they felt like I'd been gone

1165
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 5: too long.

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Speaker 4: I dang, Dig's a good guy.

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Speaker 1: He don't marry her.

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Speaker 5: I think we both knew we had some sort of

1169
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,799
Speaker 5: feelings for each other, but we just never acted on it.

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00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 5: We spent all of high school and college in this

1171
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,000
Speaker 5: weird circle where he would get a girlfriend and I'd

1172
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 5: be single, secretly wishing I could be with him. Then

1173
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:22,200
Speaker 5: I'd move on and get a boyfriend, and he would

1174
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: be single, secretly wishing he could be with me. Every

1175
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 5: time I came home from college, we'd meet at the

1176
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 5: same restaurant and catch up, and it felt like we

1177
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 5: could talk all night, but it was always hard to

1178
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:34,680
Speaker 5: say goodbye. We all spent the summers together, and I'd

1179
00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 5: hope nothing would ever change.

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00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 4: All right. If this was happening to me and I

1181
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,359
Speaker 4: felt this way about someone, I'd be like, look, I'm

1182
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:40,960
Speaker 4: waiting on you.

1183
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: I'm waiting on you.

1184
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: Can stay with that guy.

1185
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:48,319
Speaker 5: Oh wait. This went on for ten years, and then

1186
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 5: finally it happened. We were both single, two years out

1187
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,280
Speaker 5: of college, and one night he was at my house

1188
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 5: and he looked at me, said my name, and kissed me.

1189
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Speaker 5: For the next few months, we spent every day together

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00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,720
Speaker 5: and it was like a dream. Even our friends couldn't

1191
00:56:03,719 --> 00:56:07,120
Speaker 5: be happier. But eventually he started acting different, not mean

1192
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:10,080
Speaker 5: or anything, he just treated me differently. He wasn't acting

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00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 5: like I was the same girl he'd known the last

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00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,879
Speaker 5: ten years. He would coddle me and baby me, even

1195
00:56:14,920 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 5: though he knew I wasn't that type of girl. I

1196
00:56:16,719 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 5: asked him why he would do that, and he said

1197
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,480
Speaker 5: he thought that's what girls liked. I asked him to

1198
00:56:20,520 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 5: just treat me like me, and he did for a

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Speaker 5: day or two, but then started again. It was like

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00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 5: we couldn't be us anymore because he needed to be

1201
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,399
Speaker 5: delicate and needy like his exes were. I'm not trying

1202
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 5: to be mean, they really just were quite needy and

1203
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,040
Speaker 5: he enjoyed that. We had a serious talk about it

1204
00:56:35,080 --> 00:56:37,239
Speaker 5: and decided we cared too much about each other to

1205
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 5: ruin our friendship. So we called it off again after

1206
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 5: less than six months, and I knew that was my

1207
00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 5: last chance.

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00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 4: E Bomber low key work through that.

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00:56:46,920 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 5: We still spent a lot of time together and we

1210
00:56:49,160 --> 00:56:51,200
Speaker 5: really went right back to how we were before. I

1211
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,440
Speaker 5: was so upset that we couldn't figure out how to

1212
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,800
Speaker 5: just be together, but I would rather have my best

1213
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 5: friend than an ex I never see again. Fast forward

1214
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,439
Speaker 5: two years, we hadn't seen each other nearly as much,

1215
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 5: and I felt like that was for the best. I

1216
00:57:03,239 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 5: could still support and care about him, but maybe it

1217
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 5: was time for a little distance. I have a boyfriend,

1218
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:11,240
Speaker 5: and he has a girlfriend, and she's exactly his type,

1219
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 5: and I was happy for him that I knew what

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00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,439
Speaker 5: was coming. I knew there would come a day where

1221
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,720
Speaker 5: he would have to choose between a relationship with her

1222
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:20,800
Speaker 5: and keeping me around, because, let's face it, we aren't

1223
00:57:20,840 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 5: kids anymore. We're not getting any younger, and honestly, who

1224
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 5: would want their boyfriend to be friends with a girl.

1225
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 5: He tried to date twice, but kept around despite that

1226
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 5: I get it, I really do, but that didn't stop

1227
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 5: it from breaking my heart. Pretty soon after they started

1228
00:57:34,760 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 5: dating that day came. I honestly didn't realize it had

1229
00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:40,959
Speaker 5: happened for almost a year, because again, we hadn't seen

1230
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 5: each other that much. I only contacted him to invite

1231
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 5: them to things our friend groups did together. Every time

1232
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 5: I'd reach out, he had an excuse to miss it,

1233
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 5: and I really thought nothing of it. But one day

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00:57:52,320 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 5: it clicked.

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Speaker 4: Oh no.

1236
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,920
Speaker 5: Since then, I've seen him maybe once a year for

1237
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 5: the last four years, and I've accepted that. Last week

1238
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 5: they got engaged. Oh ouch OUCHI they tried. Yeah, you

1239
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 5: guys tried twice.

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00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:09,080
Speaker 4: Guess tried but failed. I think I think there was success. Failed,

1241
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 4: definitely succeeded.

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00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 5: I've been waiting for that moment for years, and I

1243
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,640
Speaker 5: told myself that when it came, I would be nothing

1244
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: but happy for him. But that just wasn't true. It

1245
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 5: broke my heart and I cried for much longer than

1246
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 5: I felt like I deserved to. Our friends are throwing

1247
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 5: him a party and I, of course I'm not invited.

1248
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 5: That sucks. I definitely won't be invited to the wedding,

1249
00:58:29,080 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 5: and well, I'm basically not invited to be a part

1250
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 5: of the rest of his life. I think it took

1251
00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 5: until that moment for me to fully understand that he

1252
00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 5: was gone, because some little part of me selfishly hoped

1253
00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 5: we'd still find a way back to each other. By

1254
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,400
Speaker 5: the way, you can always find a way back to

1255
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 5: us by joining us live every weekday at three pm

1256
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 5: PST on YouTube. Just tap her profile.

1257
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Speaker 4: The reason they didn't work out was because he babied

1258
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 4: her so much.

1259
00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 5: That's it. Yeah, what the thing is that, I think

1260
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 5: that they were both so worried about their friendship they

1261
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:57,720
Speaker 5: didn't want to put in risk.

1262
00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:58,919
Speaker 1: Yeah they were good.

1263
00:58:59,080 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 5: Oh well, well it might not work out, so let's

1264
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 5: just let's just take a step back. Even though I

1265
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 5: moved to the city and made new friends and he

1266
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 5: got a job far away, I just hope that all

1267
00:59:08,080 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 5: the time that somehow it would be him i'd end

1268
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 5: up with. Neither of us are the kind of people

1269
00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 5: that would stir up any trouble, so I've never told

1270
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 5: him how I felt, and if he feels the same,

1271
00:59:17,480 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 5: I'm sure he won't speak up either. I know this

1272
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 5: is a long post, but that's kind of what the

1273
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:25,400
Speaker 5: stob is for long, overdue, long time coming long stories.

1274
00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 5: It feels good to at least tell some strangers that

1275
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 5: I never stopped loving him. I feel like I lost

1276
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:32,080
Speaker 5: so much more than a best friend. He's truly the

1277
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 5: one that got away. My life feels like the unsatisfying

1278
00:59:34,960 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 5: ending of a nineties rom coms. And that is the

1279
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 5: freaking end. I'm unsatisfied me too, man, that was sad.

1280
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 5: Go after I mean, like, come on, but yeah, I

1281
00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 5: think steps break up with boyfriend. Yeah, go after your

1282
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 5: ex say hey, I'm like, not at the wedding. Don't

1283
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,720
Speaker 5: do it at the wedding. Do it now? Well break

1284
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:55,880
Speaker 5: up to the X and then go and be like, hey,

1285
00:59:56,040 --> 00:59:57,960
Speaker 5: I know you're about to get married, but I need

1286
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 5: to tell you that I'm still in love with you.

1287
00:59:59,800 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 5: And and then you just leave. Yeah, you know you

1288
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 5: just you say Hi, I just wanted to like be

1289
01:00:03,760 --> 01:00:05,520
Speaker 5: frank with you. I am still in love with you,

1290
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 5: and you know, if you don't feel that way, totally fine,

1291
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,920
Speaker 5: I understand. But I just needed to get it off

1292
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 5: my chest and then leave. That's the end of that story.

1293
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,000
Speaker 4: In the end of this episode.

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Speaker 5: So if you love us, make sure to subscribe.

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Speaker 1: We love you and see you tomorrow,