WEBVTT - #512 Jason Flom with Charles "Brandon" Martin

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<v Speaker 1>On October twenty seventh, two thousand and eight, a pregnant

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<v Speaker 1>woman named Jody Lintrek answered a knot at her front

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<v Speaker 1>door and survived a gunshot, but tragically, her pregnancy was terminated,

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<v Speaker 1>and police found what they believed to be a makeshift

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<v Speaker 1>silencer in her home. Then theorized that one of the

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<v Speaker 1>potential bothers, a married man named Charles Brandon Martin, had

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<v Speaker 1>constructed the alleged silencer and arranged the attack, despite a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of holes in this theory, including that this alleged

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<v Speaker 1>silencer may have actually been a bomb. One alleged witness

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<v Speaker 1>claimed that Brandon had searched the Internet for ways to

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<v Speaker 1>construct a silencer before disposing of the computer, sending him

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<v Speaker 1>away for life. This is wrongful conviction. You're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Wrongful Conviction, where we're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>to Maryland, just outside of DC, where a pregnant woman

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<v Speaker 1>survived a gunshot wound that ended her pregnancy and then

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<v Speaker 1>a tangled web of Lover's law enforcement and various ulterior

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<v Speaker 1>motives led to the prosecution of not one, but two

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<v Speaker 1>innocent men, while other compelling suspects were ignored. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the two men caught up in that miserable web

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<v Speaker 1>joins us from a Maryland correction facility, Charles Brandon Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>But he just goes by Brandon. So Brandon, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>wrongful conviction.

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<v Speaker 2>I appreciate you having me.

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<v Speaker 1>And joining him to help tell this harrowing story. His attorney,

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<v Speaker 1>Elizabeth Franzoso, who goes by Beth, and we'll represent him

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<v Speaker 1>along with Donna, at a new trial if the state

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<v Speaker 1>ever stops delaying it. So Beth, welcome, Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having us. And while this case is really more of

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<v Speaker 1>a Maryland story, Brandon's story began in DC and it

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<v Speaker 1>revolved heavily around basketball.

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up in the DC area. I went to

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<v Speaker 2>Domatha High School, finished up at Saint Stephen Saint Agnes's

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<v Speaker 2>High School in Alexandria. Before college, I studied social science

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<v Speaker 2>and aff apology and sociology the University of Pittsburgh. Funished

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<v Speaker 2>at Johnstown and I started coaching and in basketball, and

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<v Speaker 2>actually when I was in college, started coaching at the

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<v Speaker 2>high school I had attended in the summers. Then I

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<v Speaker 2>had got a job at Allegheny College in Pittsburgh. So

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<v Speaker 2>I actually didn't move to Maryland until two thousand and

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<v Speaker 2>four with my ex wife, who was my girlfriend at

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<v Speaker 2>the times when I had the head coaching job at

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<v Speaker 2>the college and Southern Maryland. Right after my first son

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<v Speaker 2>was born.

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<v Speaker 1>The two young parents moved back to be closer to

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<v Speaker 1>their support systems understandably, and then they got married and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't long before where the second child was born,

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<v Speaker 1>and it appears that Brandon enjoyed.

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<v Speaker 2>Fatherhood with a job I had and everything I was

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<v Speaker 2>able to make my schedule around the kids, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I was basically the primary caregiver for our kids as

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<v Speaker 2>I was there. I mean, like I spent more hours

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<v Speaker 2>for day with the kids than anybody from the second

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<v Speaker 2>they woke up all the way through the night time.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's the most important thing to me with those kids.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's the hardest part for me right now,

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<v Speaker 2>is being away from the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>As time went by, the marital arrangement changed and Brandon

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<v Speaker 1>moved out, but they both remained committed to amicably co parenting.

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<v Speaker 3>He and his wife had separated, pad more of just

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<v Speaker 3>a co parenting roommate type thing. His wife was aware

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<v Speaker 3>that he'd had relationships with other women. Go somewhere else

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<v Speaker 3>in the evening, and he'd come home, go to the kids'

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<v Speaker 3>sports games and participate with the kids. He was always

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<v Speaker 3>a really active dad to.

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<v Speaker 2>Try to keep everything the same for the kids since

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<v Speaker 2>they were still young. I would get back to the

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<v Speaker 2>house in the morning before they woke up so that

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<v Speaker 2>they didn't notice anything different, which betwain me and my

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<v Speaker 2>ex wife. He knew what the situation was.

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<v Speaker 1>And while living within this new arrangement, Brandon had three

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<v Speaker 1>more kids, including another son with his wife, but staying single.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just a better fit for him setting a

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<v Speaker 1>casual expectation with any of his intimate partners, which included

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<v Speaker 1>three women at the time of this incident, Sherry Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie McFadden, and the victim in this case, Jody Lynn Torrick.

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<v Speaker 2>They tried to make it sound like I was in

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<v Speaker 2>committed relationships with all these people. You know, with Jody,

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<v Speaker 2>we probably had only been around each other, probably eight times.

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<v Speaker 3>She was actually dating someone else by the name of

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<v Speaker 3>Emmanuel and they were actually more boyfriend girlfriend. Jody became pregnant,

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<v Speaker 3>it was uncertain who the father was, and Brandon was

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<v Speaker 3>very respectful of her making whatever decision that she wanted to,

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<v Speaker 3>which could include either having an abortion or keeping the baby,

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<v Speaker 3>and he agreed that if the baby was his, he

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<v Speaker 3>would support the baby. I think Emmanuel was not thrilled

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<v Speaker 3>that she was pregnant and didn't know who the father was,

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<v Speaker 3>so the state tried to paint this out to Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>being angry that she was pregnant and wanting to kill

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<v Speaker 3>her so that way he wouldn't have to pay child support,

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<v Speaker 3>but it simply wasn't true. Not to mention that there

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<v Speaker 3>was a whole host of other people that did have

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<v Speaker 3>some type of motive.

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<v Speaker 1>And this appears to have included one of Brandon's other

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<v Speaker 1>intimate partners, Maggie McFadden, who had allegedly threatened other women

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<v Speaker 1>with gun violence, including Sharry Carter, Which brings us to

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<v Speaker 1>October twenty seventh, two thousand and eight, when Jody Lyn

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<v Speaker 1>Torrik was at home talking to a friend on the phone.

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<v Speaker 3>She was two months pregnant at the time, talking on

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<v Speaker 3>the phone to her friend Blair around three o'clock in

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<v Speaker 3>the afternoon and someone knocked on her front door saying

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<v Speaker 3>they were a salesman, and then she ended the call.

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<v Speaker 3>Blair tried to call her back a few times, Jody

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<v Speaker 3>never picked up the phone, so she got worried and

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<v Speaker 3>she called Jody's roommate, Jessica. Jody also worked for Jessica.

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<v Speaker 3>Blair requested that Jessica leave work and check on Jody.

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<v Speaker 3>So Jessica Jody lying there unconscious with a gunshot wound,

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<v Speaker 3>and she calls nine to one one. The police come

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<v Speaker 3>to the scene. At that point, Jody's lying in the doorway.

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<v Speaker 3>She's still breathing, and she was hospitalized for quite some

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<v Speaker 3>time for serious injuries.

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<v Speaker 1>A three eighty caliber bullet and casing were collected from

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<v Speaker 1>where she was found, and then across the living room

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<v Speaker 1>from there, police found a curious looking gatorade bottle. The

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<v Speaker 1>mouth was wrapped in layers of duct tape and medical

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<v Speaker 1>tape which formed a rectangular opening, and then on the

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<v Speaker 1>bottom there was a hole covered in ashen soot, and

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<v Speaker 1>the lead detective from ann Arundel County, Richard Alman, thought

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<v Speaker 1>that that was a makeshift silencer.

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<v Speaker 3>There was no expert testimony whatsoever about gatorade bottles or

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<v Speaker 3>other bottles being made into silencers. Detective Richard Alban testified

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<v Speaker 3>it reminded him of a makeshift silencer he'd seen in

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<v Speaker 3>a Stephen Sagal movie, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Rather than ordering chemical analysis to prove that theory, it

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<v Speaker 1>just became an accepted fact, and there were a few

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<v Speaker 1>hairs stuck in the tape and the contraption was saved

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<v Speaker 1>for DNA testing and hair microscopy. Meanwhile, they spoke with

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<v Speaker 1>Jody's roommate, Jessica Higgs.

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<v Speaker 3>During the interview, Jessica used the very crass racist language.

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<v Speaker 3>She used the N word and stated she did not

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<v Speaker 3>like black people, that she didn't like that Jody had

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<v Speaker 3>black men in and out of the house, and that

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<v Speaker 3>she didn't like or didn't trust Brandon because he's black.

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<v Speaker 3>She basically came up with this unfounded, baseless theory that, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>it must have been Brandon because he was in some

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<v Speaker 3>way pissed off that she was pregnant and didn't want

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<v Speaker 3>to have an abortion.

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<v Speaker 1>The police theorized that this married man wanted Jody dead

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<v Speaker 1>to hide his infidelity and potential extramarital child. So Anne

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<v Speaker 1>Arundel County Police coordinated with Charles County to pay a

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<v Speaker 1>visit to Brandon and his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, the next day they were accusing me when

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<v Speaker 2>I was that holme with the kids and I see

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<v Speaker 2>a truck parked in front of my driveway, like blocking

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<v Speaker 2>my driveway, tended windows, and I actually ended up calling

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<v Speaker 2>the police because I'm afraid. I'm at home with the

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<v Speaker 2>kids and I'm thinking if somebody about to try to

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<v Speaker 2>rob me or something that they said they were going

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<v Speaker 2>to send someone over, which clearly they didn't because they

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<v Speaker 2>knew who it was. And so the original interaction with

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<v Speaker 2>them was when I found out that she had actually

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<v Speaker 2>been shot.

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<v Speaker 1>ways to get involved. Without knowing the time of the shooting,

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon told them where he was the day before, at

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<v Speaker 1>Maggie McFadden's house speaking with her brother Frank Bradley about

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<v Speaker 1>rehab from about one thirty to four thirty PM, thereby

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<v Speaker 1>making him unavailable for him to have shot Jody.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in the meantime, the police were actually speaking

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<v Speaker 2>to my wife at the time, and they made her

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<v Speaker 2>meet them at like a mattress warehouse or something like

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<v Speaker 2>that on the way home from her job. So they

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<v Speaker 2>had her basically alone talking to her. And so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>trying to call her and can't reach her. They wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>let her pick the phone up when I'm calling now.

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<v Speaker 1>Unaware of the marital arrangement that upended their theory, they

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<v Speaker 1>may have hoped to upset her with the news of

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<v Speaker 1>an extra marital affair and child, perhaps gaining the state's witness,

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<v Speaker 1>but to no avail. They were told about Brandon's other

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<v Speaker 1>intimate partners, which brought them to Sherry Carter, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Maggie McFadden and her brothers Frank, Dennis and Michael Bradley,

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<v Speaker 1>all of whom corroborated Brandon's alibi. But instead of rethinking

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<v Speaker 1>their theory in the face of this new evidence, they

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<v Speaker 1>persisted with Brandon while trying to again aggravate his wife.

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<v Speaker 2>When they had originally asked about searching the house and

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<v Speaker 2>searching the car and all that stuff, we didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>any issue with that. That was fine. But instead of

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<v Speaker 2>going on the schedule that we had agreed upon, they

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<v Speaker 2>waited until they knew I was going to be gone

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<v Speaker 2>from the work, and they came over the house when

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<v Speaker 2>she was there with the kids, and so just trying

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<v Speaker 2>to upset her, messing the house up, slashing bags open

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<v Speaker 2>that could have just been unzipped, and just making a

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<v Speaker 2>mess of the place, doing the best they could to

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<v Speaker 2>try to upset her in any way, hoping that I

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<v Speaker 2>had done something and she was going to fell on me,

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<v Speaker 2>but there was nothing to do.

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<v Speaker 1>In addition to information, they may have been looking for

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<v Speaker 1>a three eighty caliber pistol or some other incriminating evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>but all they turned up was a text exchange between

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<v Speaker 1>Brandon and Jody.

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<v Speaker 3>If you look at the text messages, it just says

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<v Speaker 3>what time do you work, to which she responded, I'm off.

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon said hello at five eleven, which was two hours

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<v Speaker 3>after the shooting. He sent another message, I got some

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<v Speaker 3>stuff with the kids to about seven o'clock, so any

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<v Speaker 3>time later, how much did you need, suggesting that they

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<v Speaker 3>had talked over the phone or something, So why they

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<v Speaker 3>suggested that was in some way nefarious or him trying

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<v Speaker 3>to ascertain if she was home alone. In fact, it

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<v Speaker 3>suggests one that they were just having a normal conversation

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<v Speaker 3>about him providing her something that she needed and scheduling it.

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<v Speaker 3>And the fact that he was completely clueless as to

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<v Speaker 3>the fact that she'd been shot because he's texting her

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<v Speaker 3>two hours after.

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<v Speaker 1>Yet inexplicably, this was later present at as evidence of guilt. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>a month out from the shooting, Jody regained consciousness, but

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<v Speaker 1>she had no memory of the shooting and she couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>identify the shooter.

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<v Speaker 3>She could remember I think what happened up to the

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<v Speaker 3>day of the shooting in her life generally, and she

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<v Speaker 3>gained her memory for future events, but did not remember

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<v Speaker 3>anything about being shot.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, they interviewed Jody when she first got home. He

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<v Speaker 2>let them know that I've never asked her to get

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<v Speaker 2>a horse. I think she said, he never told me

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<v Speaker 2>to do anything associated with it. Then they come the

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<v Speaker 2>trial still saying that was going on when she actually

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<v Speaker 2>told them that before.

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<v Speaker 1>So they chose to ignore the victim and Brandon's wife

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<v Speaker 1>about the motive or lack thereof, as well as his

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<v Speaker 1>corroborated alibi, and they obtained a warrant to collect strands

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<v Speaker 1>of Brandon's hair for comparison to the gatorade bottle. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>no testing was done to determine if this crazy Stephen

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<v Speaker 1>Sigall movie silence er theory held any water. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my first thought was that this contraption was found outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the immediate crime scene. Sounds like a let's face,

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<v Speaker 1>it sounds like a homemade bomb.

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<v Speaker 2>I think he might be pretty spot on there.

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<v Speaker 3>And that also, I guess what would explain why there

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<v Speaker 3>may have been some burnt residue in it. That's what

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<v Speaker 3>happens to marijuana when you smoke it. Also, whither it

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<v Speaker 3>would have been a little bit of a tape around it,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was a multiple DNA profile not rolling out

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<v Speaker 3>either Jody or Brandon, and I think the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>Jody's and Brandon's and who knows who else is might

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<v Speaker 3>have been on it because it was a mixed profile,

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<v Speaker 3>would be consistent with that being what this gatorade bottle

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<v Speaker 3>was used for. And so essentially that there's nothing about

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<v Speaker 3>the DNA that would suggest that he did anything nefarious

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<v Speaker 3>with this gatorade bottle. But yet, because Detective Albin had

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<v Speaker 3>seen this interesting Steven Siagall movie, he decided to make

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<v Speaker 3>that the theory of the state's case that it was a silencer, so.

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<v Speaker 1>With Jessica Biggs theory which had been debunked by Jody

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<v Speaker 1>and Brandon's wife, followed by an innocuous text exchange, and

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<v Speaker 1>then Brandon's hair found on what was probably a bond.

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<v Speaker 1>Considering Jody wasn't excluded either. I mean, how many shooting

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<v Speaker 1>victims handle the silencer that's used on them. Nevertheless, they

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<v Speaker 1>arrested Brandon.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a surprise. I was actually on my way

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<v Speaker 2>taking the kids to practice when we were heading to

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<v Speaker 2>the car, getting the kids in the car, and they

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<v Speaker 2>just pulled up with all the police and all this

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<v Speaker 2>stuff in arrestment.

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<v Speaker 1>He was arrested on March thirtieth, two thousand and nine,

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<v Speaker 1>then bonded out, which started a fight over pretrialed detention

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<v Speaker 1>that tied up his lawyers and had Brandon in and

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<v Speaker 1>out of jail while they worked to build support for

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<v Speaker 1>the silencer theory, starting with Sherry Carter.

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon had a computer because he was a coach at

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<v Speaker 3>the College of Southern Maryland, so he had his work

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<v Speaker 3>laptop at home, and she got upset with him and

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<v Speaker 3>made up a story that he was searching all these

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<v Speaker 3>things on the computer about making silencers out of bottles,

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<v Speaker 3>and then she testified the computer had been destroyed in

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<v Speaker 3>the police testimony was such that they did not have

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<v Speaker 3>the computer.

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<v Speaker 1>But we later found out that they definitely fucking did,

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<v Speaker 1>and that a forensic search of this particular computer and

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<v Speaker 1>others belonging to Brandon had disproved Cherry's story. And in

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<v Speaker 1>light of that tidbit, do we believe that other potentially

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<v Speaker 1>exculpatory evidence was just simply somehow lost.

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<v Speaker 3>They lost street camera footage that would have showed if

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon had driven towards Jodie's house that day, or for

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<v Speaker 3>that matter, specifically who drove toward the house that day.

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<v Speaker 3>They lost part of a recording of a police interview

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<v Speaker 3>in which Maggie's brother Michael Bradley basically endorsed brandon saalibi,

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<v Speaker 3>which directly conflicted with Michael Bradley's trial testimony.

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<v Speaker 1>During his initial interview, Michael Bradley corroborated Brandon's alibi statement

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<v Speaker 1>that he was at their house on the afternoon of

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting, but in November two thousand and nine, in

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<v Speaker 1>exchange for immunity and other Favorschael Bradley changed that story,

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<v Speaker 1>adding in a new name, Jerry Burks.

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<v Speaker 3>Bradley testified that it was him, Frank, Jerry Burks, Brandon.

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<v Speaker 3>They were smoking marijuana in the house. He was intoxicated.

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<v Speaker 3>That he saw Frank take medical tape to the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 3>He saw Brandon and Frank go up to Maggie McFadden's room,

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<v Speaker 3>Frank coming down and retrieving a gatorade bottle, and then

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<v Speaker 3>Brandon and Jerry Burks left the house.

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<v Speaker 1>Bradley said they left around two pm, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>pair allegedly returned and asked Frank to discard of a bag.

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<v Speaker 1>But where did this Jerry Burke's guy come from?

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<v Speaker 2>He was a friend of Maggie's brother, and I believe

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<v Speaker 2>a friend of Maggie, and just my feeling of it

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<v Speaker 2>is that he sort of was in the same situation

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<v Speaker 2>as me where they're a legend he did something that

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<v Speaker 2>he probably didn't actually do.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that they were hoping in some way that

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry would turn on Brandon, but he didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll get into Michael Bradley's reason for throwing Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>Burks under the bus in a bit. But they used

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<v Speaker 1>his statement and Sherry Carter's lies to bring Jerry Burkes

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<v Speaker 1>into the fold. But Burkes called their bluff refusing to

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<v Speaker 1>give a statement about how Brandon allegedly hired him to

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<v Speaker 1>shoot Jody using this alleged silencer.

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<v Speaker 3>He maintained his innocence, He was tried by a jury,

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<v Speaker 3>he was acquitted, And it really does seem that after

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<v Speaker 3>Jerry was found not guilty, they really ramped up the

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<v Speaker 3>prosecution of Brandon. The judge didn't even allow the fact

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<v Speaker 3>that Jerry was acquitted to be heard by the jury

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<v Speaker 3>in Brandon's case.

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<v Speaker 1>By this time, Brandon had been re arrested on a

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<v Speaker 1>false assault allegation, and even that same judge didn't find

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<v Speaker 1>the charge credible.

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<v Speaker 2>They had a witness basically lie and say that I

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<v Speaker 2>had assaulted them. Now it came up doing a hearing

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<v Speaker 2>that it was a false statement, and the judge explained

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<v Speaker 2>that even though I don't believe that it occurred, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to hold you because trials two weeks away. Then

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<v Speaker 2>the trial gets postponed or a good deal of time,

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<v Speaker 2>and they still kept me in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Trial was postponed until April twenty ten. Meanwhile, the media

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<v Speaker 1>was regurgitating whatever the state fed them.

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<v Speaker 2>They asked the possible jurors, who has read or seen

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<v Speaker 2>anything about this case on TV or in the newspapers

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<v Speaker 2>because they're trying to root out bias, and every single

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<v Speaker 2>person stands up, you know the right Then you're like okay.

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<v Speaker 2>And the issue with that is that the way the

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<v Speaker 2>media is used by the police and the state is

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<v Speaker 2>that they'll go to the media and they'll say that

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<v Speaker 2>this person was the rested goodness and this and so

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<v Speaker 2>on the news in the newspaper, they'll put your face

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<v Speaker 2>in there and said you allegedly did this, and no

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<v Speaker 2>one's listening to the allegedly, and no one is thinking

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<v Speaker 2>about the fact that it might not be true, and

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<v Speaker 2>so everybody stands up, and the next part of the

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<v Speaker 2>guavier is asking them if they can still be fair

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<v Speaker 2>and impartial, so everybody puts back down.

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<v Speaker 1>Trial began on April twenty seven, twenty ten, with the victim,

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<v Speaker 1>Jody Lynn Torok.

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<v Speaker 3>She testified that she did not remember anything as far

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<v Speaker 3>as what happened on that day, that she and Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>had a sexual relationship, and that she was pregnant, and

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<v Speaker 3>she also had a relationship with another man named Emmanuel,

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<v Speaker 3>and that she was uncertain who the father was, and

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<v Speaker 3>that she and Brandon had some discussions about abortion, and

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<v Speaker 3>she told him that she wished to keep her baby,

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<v Speaker 3>and there was no testimony that he in any way

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<v Speaker 3>was threatening to her or anything of the like.

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<v Speaker 1>But the state doesn't have to prove motive. And they

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<v Speaker 1>also presented the innocuous text thread with a straight bass

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<v Speaker 1>and said that it was evidence of guilt. And then

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<v Speaker 1>they moved on to the alleged silencer, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>bong silencer theory, and they put on medical experts that

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<v Speaker 1>tied Brandon's DNA to this gatorade bottle. The first one

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<v Speaker 1>testified that one hair was human, the other was from

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<v Speaker 1>a cat, and then an expert in mitochondrial DNA, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Terry Milton, took the stand.

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<v Speaker 3>Doctor Terry Melton testified, what mitochondrial DNA could show that

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<v Speaker 3>someone is from the same maternal lineage, but it can

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<v Speaker 3>never say for sure that this hair absolutely for sure

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<v Speaker 3>came from this person. Doctor Melton testified she could rule

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<v Speaker 3>out ninety nine point ninety four percent of North Americans,

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<v Speaker 3>but during cross examination she acknowledged that left roughly one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and eighty thousand Americans and thirty thousand people in

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<v Speaker 3>Maryland with that same mitochondrial DNA profile.

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<v Speaker 1>So in plain English, it's a big fat nothing burner.

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<v Speaker 3>And they called Sarah Chenoweth, the forensic chemist who testified

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<v Speaker 3>about DNA and said it included DNA from at least

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<v Speaker 3>three individuals, which also would be consistent with it being

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<v Speaker 3>a bong, and says at least one male and one female.

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<v Speaker 3>She did roll out three other people submitted for comparison,

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<v Speaker 3>didn't roll out Brandon, didn't rule out Jody. Plus, we're

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<v Speaker 3>not suggesting that his DNA necessarily he wasn't on the

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<v Speaker 3>bottle that they all used as a bong. But even

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<v Speaker 3>if there was a hair that could have possibly been Brandon's, well,

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<v Speaker 3>when people pass around a bong, their hair might get

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<v Speaker 3>on it. So I don't think that's really neither here

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<v Speaker 3>nor there. So that was it. There was no expert

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<v Speaker 3>testimony about silencers, how they're constructed. They could have tested

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<v Speaker 3>it trying to figure what was that little bit of

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<v Speaker 3>ash in the bottom was at marijuana or was it gunshot?

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<v Speaker 3>Resident they didn't bother to do it because they didn't

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<v Speaker 3>seem to think it was important.

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<v Speaker 1>The state hired three biological evidence experts to testify about

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<v Speaker 1>a contraption that they hadn't even proved was involved with

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<v Speaker 1>the shooting. Instead, they relied on Sherry Carter and Michael Bradley,

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<v Speaker 1>the latter of whom Michael told his news story about

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry Burks, but he kind of fell apart on cross examination.

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<v Speaker 3>On cross examination, he was questioned about the fact that

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<v Speaker 3>he received immunity from prosecution from Jody Turok's shooting in

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<v Speaker 3>exchange for his testimony, and that he also received a

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<v Speaker 3>benefit in his obstruction of justice charges in New Jersey,

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<v Speaker 3>and he admitted that those charges stemmed from him lying

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<v Speaker 3>to the police. So he's a person who's approven liar

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<v Speaker 3>to the point where he actually was charged with obstruction

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<v Speaker 3>because of it, and then he admitted he only testified

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<v Speaker 3>because Maggie McFadden asked him to because she was involved

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<v Speaker 3>in the attempted murder.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Bradley testified that his sister directly asked him for

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<v Speaker 1>protection because she was involved. And then the state's other

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<v Speaker 1>star witness, Sherry Carter, also implicated Maggie McFadden.

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<v Speaker 3>Cherry testified that Maggie McFadden was threatening Sherry, among others

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<v Speaker 3>on social media, was emailing her employer, and that Maggie

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<v Speaker 3>actually made a statement that she had someone shot and

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<v Speaker 3>the description of that statement sounded an awful lot like

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<v Speaker 3>she was talking about Jodi. She also had made comments

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<v Speaker 3>that she liked to fight and beat people up, and

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<v Speaker 3>she had shot people before. She was so volatile the

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<v Speaker 3>state decided not even to call her as a witness.

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<v Speaker 1>The state then found themselves trying to throw the court

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<v Speaker 1>off of Maggie McFadden's scent.

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<v Speaker 3>It was completely just twisted. It was backwards, basically saying

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<v Speaker 3>that the McFadden theory was far fetched because her aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>behavior would draw attention to her as a suspect and

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<v Speaker 3>it was not logical that someone who's that flamboyantly aggressive

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<v Speaker 3>would have been responsible for trying to shoot someone?

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmmm, yeah, okay, but this wasn't Maggie McFadden's trial,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's not all that Sherry Carter said.

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<v Speaker 3>Cherry testified that she'd been in a relationship with Brandon

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<v Speaker 3>for three years, that he had a computer at his house,

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<v Speaker 3>and that it was his work computer from the College

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<v Speaker 3>of Southern Maryland and it had a lot of restrictive settings,

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<v Speaker 3>so he wouldn't be able to modify system files or

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<v Speaker 3>download software without an administrator password. And so she then

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<v Speaker 3>testifies that we did this, and he did that, he

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<v Speaker 3>looked up silencers, and then he said he got rid

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<v Speaker 3>of the computer because they looked up so many crazy

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<v Speaker 3>things on the internet in her apartment that if it

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<v Speaker 3>got searched, he didn't want it found. So she says that,

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<v Speaker 3>and she said she'd seen Brandon with a handgun in

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<v Speaker 3>September and October, and her testimony was unimpeached, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Had Brandon's trial attorney known that this computer was not

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<v Speaker 1>only in the state's possession, but also that it had

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<v Speaker 1>been forensically analyzed and no such searches had been detected,

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<v Speaker 1>then he too would have known that Sharry Carter had

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<v Speaker 1>perjured herself and that the state knowingly had presented false evidence.

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<v Speaker 1>But without that knowledge, well trial counsel they did the

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<v Speaker 1>best they could.

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<v Speaker 3>A lot of the case was made on cross examination. Basically,

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<v Speaker 3>the argument was that the bottle was not a silencer,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was a boon, that the DNA did not

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<v Speaker 3>indicate that he had any role in constructing a silencer

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<v Speaker 3>or anything like that, and that Jodie's DNA was found

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<v Speaker 3>on it again that would corroborate the idea of it

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<v Speaker 3>being a bong, and that the state's theory about the

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<v Speaker 3>silencer failed to explain the presence of JODI's DNA. But

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<v Speaker 3>there was also a lot of references to who else

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<v Speaker 3>might have had a motive. Here you have Emmanuel Quarterly,

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<v Speaker 3>who's the other boyfriend of Jody. Then you have Maggie

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<v Speaker 3>McFadden who's all over the place threatening people, confessing to shootings,

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<v Speaker 3>alluding that it was Jody, and the fact that she's

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<v Speaker 3>directing her brothers what to do and how to talk

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<v Speaker 3>to the police. And then Maggie McFadden's friend Steve Burnett,

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<v Speaker 3>lied to the police about his whereabouts and was never

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<v Speaker 3>able to explain what he was doing.

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<v Speaker 1>Plus, Brandon's wife testified about their arrangement and how she

0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:41.240
<v Speaker 1>knew that he had children with other women, So he

0:25:41.280 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 1>would not have been motivated to kill Jody for keeping

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<v Speaker 1>the baby.

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<v Speaker 3>Without this whole computer thing trying to tie him up

0:25:48.760 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 3>to this bong that they claim was a silencer, and

0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:55.400
<v Speaker 3>have no forensic evidence whatsoever. They really didn't have anything

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<v Speaker 3>of a case. The only couple witnesses they had were

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<v Speaker 3>really alternate suspects. Sherry, this was, I would say, the

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<v Speaker 3>butt four witness. That was not for this witness, he

0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:08.239
<v Speaker 3>wouldn't have been convicted. And she testified the computer had

0:26:08.240 --> 0:26:12.439
<v Speaker 3>been destroyed. The jury instruction, I'll read it verbatim. You

0:26:12.520 --> 0:26:15.560
<v Speaker 3>have heard evidence that the defendant removed a computer from

0:26:15.560 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 3>the house of Sherry Carter. Concealment of evidence is not

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<v Speaker 3>enough by itself to establish guilt, but may be considered

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:25.600
<v Speaker 3>as evidence of guilt. Concealment of evidence may be motivated

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<v Speaker 3>by a variety of factors, some of which are fully

0:26:28.160 --> 0:26:31.760
<v Speaker 3>consistent with innocence. You must first decide whether the defendant

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 3>concealed any evidence in this case. If you find that

0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:37.920
<v Speaker 3>the defendant concealed evidence in this case, then you must

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<v Speaker 3>decide whether that conduct shows a consciousness of guilt. Crucially,

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<v Speaker 3>this instruction allowed the jury to infer guilt from Brandon's

0:26:46.200 --> 0:26:48.879
<v Speaker 3>alleged decision to get rid of the laptop due to

0:26:49.000 --> 0:26:52.800
<v Speaker 3>search history, and the only basis for the instruction was

0:26:52.840 --> 0:26:58.280
<v Speaker 3>Sherry Carter's testimony. So essentially the instruction was that if

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<v Speaker 3>he concealed every evidence that could be used as consciousness

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<v Speaker 3>of guilt.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't have a criminal record, I've never

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:09.119
<v Speaker 2>been through anything like this, and so you still have

0:27:09.359 --> 0:27:12.439
<v Speaker 2>some faith system that if you didn't do something, you're

0:27:12.480 --> 0:27:15.159
<v Speaker 2>not going to get Even with all the stuff that

0:27:15.320 --> 0:27:18.719
<v Speaker 2>state was trying to make up, go and drown, no

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<v Speaker 2>one that took the stand actually said I didn't, So

0:27:21.320 --> 0:27:23.280
<v Speaker 2>I did still have hope. I didn't think that it

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<v Speaker 2>was going to end up the way it did. So

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<v Speaker 2>they simply a North France, which is the highest security

0:27:43.640 --> 0:27:46.080
<v Speaker 2>level prison in Maryland, which is actually I believe it

0:27:46.119 --> 0:27:47.840
<v Speaker 2>was the Ultra Max or something like that. I think

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:52.639
<v Speaker 2>they have a superstructure show about the prison, which this

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<v Speaker 2>is like a one on one They would call it

0:27:54.560 --> 0:27:56.919
<v Speaker 2>twenty three and one, which you like in yourself about

0:27:56.920 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 2>twenty three hours a day, and so yeah, so I'm

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<v Speaker 2>up here basically. Ever since prison being what it is,

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<v Speaker 2>there's things that are normalized in here that should not

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<v Speaker 2>be normal. I don't even remember the amount of people

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.679
<v Speaker 2>that's been killed stuff in here anymore. People being murdered

0:28:12.680 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>in here. It's not even spoke about it. It's like

0:28:16.440 --> 0:28:19.119
<v Speaker 2>it's something that people say in passion now because it

0:28:19.200 --> 0:28:22.280
<v Speaker 2>happened so often, Like the man who was murdered by

0:28:22.280 --> 0:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>the Coressian authors that was caught on the body camera recently,

0:28:25.960 --> 0:28:28.720
<v Speaker 2>people and outrage about it, which they should be, but

0:28:28.800 --> 0:28:31.639
<v Speaker 2>that happens daily like that. It just because it finally

0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:32.520
<v Speaker 2>was one video.

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:37.200
<v Speaker 1>And of course he's talking about Robert Brooks, the man

0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>who was murdered on video, brutally murdered by a group

0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:46.960
<v Speaker 1>of New York State Correction officers. Now, Robert, what can

0:28:47.000 --> 0:28:51.880
<v Speaker 1>we say? Rest in peace? And to his point, from

0:28:51.880 --> 0:28:55.000
<v Speaker 1>what we hear during these interviews, that kind of thing

0:28:55.360 --> 0:28:59.040
<v Speaker 1>is all too common behind the walls. And that makes

0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:03.680
<v Speaker 1>post conviction, that gation all that more urgent, because every

0:29:03.800 --> 0:29:07.760
<v Speaker 1>day is life and death. And Brandon tapped into his

0:29:07.920 --> 0:29:10.360
<v Speaker 1>scholastic background in the law library.

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:12.320
<v Speaker 2>The only thing I really do is read the law,

0:29:12.480 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 2>read the Bible. And once I got confident in my

0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:19.400
<v Speaker 2>legal abilities as far as filing briefs and things of

0:29:19.400 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 2>that nature, probably in the past seven years, I think

0:29:22.080 --> 0:29:25.640
<v Speaker 2>I've helped about twenty guys get positive results in cases,

0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:28.640
<v Speaker 2>regardless that that's them going home, getting admitted in the

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:33.160
<v Speaker 2>drug program, getting time cut, finding information similar to mine.

0:29:33.640 --> 0:29:35.360
<v Speaker 1>So let's get back to Brandon's case.

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<v Speaker 2>I had filed a public information next, and once I

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:40.760
<v Speaker 2>finally got the police file was when I found the

0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 2>information about the computer. In fact, it was on page

0:29:44.400 --> 0:29:47.480
<v Speaker 2>four because I'm up all night doing legal work, and

0:29:47.560 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 2>so i had my light on and I'm flipping the

0:29:49.800 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 2>page and I saw it, and I'm just I started

0:29:52.600 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 2>talking to myself. Really, I'm like, oh, this is what

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I've been talking about all along.

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<v Speaker 3>The state had not only the computer, but they also

0:29:59.360 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 3>had the announcealysis of the computers that was done by

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:07.120
<v Speaker 3>the state's computer experts, which concluded that these searches had

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 3>not been done on these computers and that was not

0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:13.959
<v Speaker 3>disclosed to the defense. So it completely proves that Sherry

0:30:14.080 --> 0:30:17.840
<v Speaker 3>was lying and they deliberately presented false evidence. Then they

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:20.479
<v Speaker 3>had the jury instructed that he was the one that

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 3>hid the evidence.

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<v Speaker 2>So the very next morning I called Justin Brown to

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<v Speaker 2>let him know what I found in there, and when

0:30:26.840 --> 0:30:29.959
<v Speaker 2>we started filing it from there, that was in twenty sixteen.

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:33.800
<v Speaker 1>They also discovered Michael Bradley's initial interview in which he

0:30:33.920 --> 0:30:37.280
<v Speaker 1>corroborated Brandon's alibi, as well as that they at one

0:30:37.320 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>point had had video of the road leading up to

0:30:39.640 --> 0:30:43.240
<v Speaker 1>JODI's home which could have identified the actual killer, but

0:30:43.760 --> 0:30:46.200
<v Speaker 1>mysteriously it somehow went missing.

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<v Speaker 3>So there were so many things that were exculpatory that

0:30:50.480 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 3>the jury should have heard about but didn't hear about,

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:57.080
<v Speaker 3>and instead were fed this false bill of lies about

0:30:57.520 --> 0:31:01.600
<v Speaker 3>silencers and computer searches and destruction of evidence that not

0:31:01.680 --> 0:31:05.200
<v Speaker 3>only wasn't true, but the opposite was true. It was

0:31:05.240 --> 0:31:08.000
<v Speaker 3>the government that was hiding the evidence and they did

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 3>it to secure this false conviction against Brandon, and Justin Brown,

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:14.320
<v Speaker 3>who was Brandon's attorney at that time, did an excellent

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:17.920
<v Speaker 3>job presenting it. At the post conviction level. Judge Silkworth

0:31:18.040 --> 0:31:21.880
<v Speaker 3>granted the post conviction relief based upon your Brady violation,

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.040
<v Speaker 3>which the court concluded that it was significant enough to

0:31:25.440 --> 0:31:28.160
<v Speaker 3>vacate the conviction and remain for a new trial, and.

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 1>Since twenty sixteen, the state has tied them up on

0:31:30.920 --> 0:31:33.600
<v Speaker 1>appeal rather than allow the new trial to go forward.

0:31:33.760 --> 0:31:37.360
<v Speaker 1>And in that time, Beth and Donna Fairman, as well

0:31:37.400 --> 0:31:40.640
<v Speaker 1>as a team from the powerhouse law firm Scadden, have

0:31:40.760 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>fought to maintain that twenty sixteen new trial motion all

0:31:44.720 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>the way to most recently the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals.

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<v Speaker 3>At that level, Brandon was represented by some excellent lawyers

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:56.800
<v Speaker 3>from Scadden who did an outstanding job, and basically a

0:31:56.800 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 3>three judge panel concluded that he's entitled to a new trial.

0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:04.760
<v Speaker 3>And so that's where we are right now. I am

0:32:05.160 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 3>looking forward to representing him at his trial or Donald Fairman,

0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:13.479
<v Speaker 3>and I think that he has waited way too long

0:32:13.760 --> 0:32:15.680
<v Speaker 3>for justice to happen here.

0:32:16.080 --> 0:32:19.160
<v Speaker 1>So here we are in February twenty twenty five, as

0:32:19.160 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 1>the state has a few more delayed tactics to still try, because,

0:32:23.360 --> 0:32:26.120
<v Speaker 1>after all, what the hell are they going to present

0:32:26.200 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 1>at a new trial? Michael Bradley, Sherry Carter, I mean,

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:34.880
<v Speaker 1>multiple DNA profiles found on a bond. Maybe, I mean

0:32:34.920 --> 0:32:35.480
<v Speaker 1>I can't.

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 2>With this shit.

0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:40.720
<v Speaker 1>But before I actually lose my shit, let's go to

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<v Speaker 1>closing arguments, where first of all, I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>both of you for joining us today. So now I'm

0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:50.440
<v Speaker 1>going to turn off my microphone, leave my headphones on

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:52.600
<v Speaker 1>and kick back in my chair and just listen to

0:32:52.720 --> 0:32:57.480
<v Speaker 1>anything else you want to share. So Elizabeth, you go first.

0:32:57.720 --> 0:33:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Then just sort of hand the microphone off the rand

0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>and he'll take us off into the sunset.

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:05.160
<v Speaker 3>I think that he has been the victim of a

0:33:05.400 --> 0:33:08.640
<v Speaker 3>grievous injustice, that the system has failed him time and

0:33:08.680 --> 0:33:12.800
<v Speaker 3>time again. I am, however, grateful to the courts that

0:33:12.880 --> 0:33:16.360
<v Speaker 3>saw things as they should have and granted him a

0:33:16.400 --> 0:33:21.760
<v Speaker 3>new trial, and I feel confident that Jerry, hearing actual

0:33:21.800 --> 0:33:26.360
<v Speaker 3>evidence rather than evidence that was manufactured twisted around, we'll

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.080
<v Speaker 3>see that he's an innocent man and will find him

0:33:29.080 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 3>not guilty when he goes to trial.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you for having us on here and giving us

0:33:33.400 --> 0:33:37.920
<v Speaker 2>the opportunity to have this conversation, because with how everything

0:33:38.000 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 2>has gone here, you see that the way that things

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:46.160
<v Speaker 2>are spoken about from one point of view are not

0:33:46.240 --> 0:33:49.240
<v Speaker 2>necessarily what it really is, and so you have so

0:33:49.360 --> 0:33:51.960
<v Speaker 2>many lies and those things that will put into the trial.

0:33:52.040 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 2>You know, Yeah, people I know on the street that

0:33:54.320 --> 0:33:57.959
<v Speaker 2>don't know the truth about the situation and will repeat

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.120
<v Speaker 2>stuff that's on the news because they don't understand and

0:34:00.520 --> 0:34:02.720
<v Speaker 2>that the news is just getting stuff from the police,

0:34:02.760 --> 0:34:05.160
<v Speaker 2>and so you have stuff going to family members, kids,

0:34:05.240 --> 0:34:07.040
<v Speaker 2>all of that stuff that are being said that clearly

0:34:07.040 --> 0:34:09.840
<v Speaker 2>aren't true, and there's no way for these people to

0:34:09.840 --> 0:34:12.560
<v Speaker 2>get the actual information. So I do believe that this

0:34:12.640 --> 0:34:17.320
<v Speaker 2>is a very important outlet. And for me clearly sitting

0:34:17.360 --> 0:34:20.880
<v Speaker 2>in here, I understand that this isn't what I want

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>to be here, but I also know that certain positive

0:34:24.880 --> 0:34:28.080
<v Speaker 2>things still occur. What you have to look for, you

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:30.440
<v Speaker 2>have to understand what is wanted from you, what is

0:34:30.480 --> 0:34:32.600
<v Speaker 2>needed from you, And so that's why, like I said earlier,

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I try to help in any way I can with

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.640
<v Speaker 2>anyone because you never know why God has allowed you

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:40.800
<v Speaker 2>to be in a certain situation. But if you don't

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:42.879
<v Speaker 2>try to do the things that He wants to do,

0:34:43.320 --> 0:34:45.279
<v Speaker 2>then there's no positive that's going to come from it,

0:34:45.320 --> 0:34:46.920
<v Speaker 2>and then you're just looking at everything from such a

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:49.520
<v Speaker 2>negative point of view. And so I know that at

0:34:49.520 --> 0:34:52.759
<v Speaker 2>some point, when it's the proper time, I'll be out

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:54.800
<v Speaker 2>of here. But while I'm in here, I'm going to

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.960
<v Speaker 2>continue to try to help people because I've always done that,

0:34:57.280 --> 0:35:00.319
<v Speaker 2>and so just try to keep the positive mind say,

0:35:00.560 --> 0:35:03.840
<v Speaker 2>while continuing the fight for right, really for the justice,

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:06.319
<v Speaker 2>for the truth. My kid, my family, They're the most

0:35:06.320 --> 0:35:08.840
<v Speaker 2>important thing to do. And so to be able to

0:35:08.840 --> 0:35:13.080
<v Speaker 2>get home to them and give the in person support

0:35:13.280 --> 0:35:14.759
<v Speaker 2>that I should have been able to give to them,

0:35:14.800 --> 0:35:16.560
<v Speaker 2>their whole labs up and lock up for the most

0:35:16.600 --> 0:35:19.120
<v Speaker 2>part of their whole labs. And so I'll just pray

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:19.879
<v Speaker 2>that happened soon.

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