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Speaker 1: All right, here we go, it's our two Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: in about thirty minutes. A lot of people questioning, is

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Speaker 1: he the right guy? What is up with USC? I've

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Speaker 1: got the same questions. Steve Sarkesan's got it rolling. He

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Speaker 1: was on earlier today at Texas so jmach I saw

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Speaker 1: a story this morning. Whatever people think about Dion Sanders,

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Speaker 1: he has added value to Colorado. They sell their games out,

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Speaker 1: They're on TV all the time. He's got better players

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Speaker 1: going there than previously. He has been a success. Would

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Speaker 1: you not agree at Colorado one hundred percent? Thousand percent?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Yeah. So here's the story out of Caroline on Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: The school announced yesterday all their tickets for twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: all of them including seasons tickets, single game tickets, all

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Speaker 1: of them sold out. So the hype the juice, the buzz,

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Speaker 1: the discussion, the recruiting, it's all working. Two years later,

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Speaker 1: Colorado is a good program, not great, but a good

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Speaker 1: program with a Heisman Trophy win. So he's And by

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Speaker 1: the way, Colorado has a clear ceiling financially, historically marginally

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Speaker 1: at best committed in sports. And it's not like Colorado

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Speaker 1: has a great high school football. You got to leave

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Speaker 1: the state to get people into that region of the country.

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Speaker 1: Caroline is a little bit of a sleeping giant, more

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Speaker 1: proximity to great high school players, It's got more money

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Speaker 1: in the athletic department, and frankly, it's a bigger brand

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Speaker 1: with deeper pockets. So I sawed this this morning. The

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Speaker 1: athletic just did a story. The timing was good. They

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Speaker 1: calculated how much college football teams would be worth, all

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Speaker 1: of them. Division one. Carolina was at twenty six, projected

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Speaker 1: at five hundred and seventy two million dollars. So and I,

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's a real brand. Carolina is a real brand.

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Speaker 1: It may start with basketball, but football they've had good players,

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Speaker 1: a lot of NFL guys from Carolina. So in Colorado football,

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Speaker 1: it's a story of shaky commitment brief success and long droughts.

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Speaker 1: So this thing should work for Bill Belichick. And we're

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Speaker 1: in the first inning, but so far in the first inning,

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Speaker 1: they're off too. As going to start as Deon sanders

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Speaker 1: the money, the buzz, the recruiting, and if you look

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Speaker 1: at this schedule, Deon's schedule in that first year is

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Speaker 1: pretty good. Who they had to face this schedule outside

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Speaker 1: future bet next to the teams the DraftKings projected wins.

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Speaker 1: The second toughest game on that schedule after Clemson is

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Speaker 1: TCU at home. Now, Syracuse was good last year, but

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Speaker 1: they lost their quarterback in fifteen starters, so Syracuse is

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Speaker 1: it gets. Also, it should be noted that ESPN is

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Speaker 1: going to put eight, if not ten, of Carolina's games

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Speaker 1: I think Carolina is a really good We said this

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Speaker 1: between the ease of the schedule. If you go back

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Speaker 1: a tremendous player. Fourth Nick Minido, Denver. That guy popped

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Speaker 1: First Team. He's he can run like a small linebacker

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Speaker 1: Quinn Miners, Denver. I know you don't talk about interior lineman.

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Speaker 1: I would say the sixth best players defensive end for Denver.

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen. Again in this franchise, some of these guys

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Speaker 1: we don't talk about a lot. He led the NFL

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Speaker 1: seven is Garrett Bowles, left tackle for Denver. Again, great physician,

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Speaker 1: I've sat next to him on a plane. They don't

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Speaker 1: highest credited player on the entire Bronco roster. Now, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna put Jordan Love at eight and bow Nix at

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Speaker 1: so he's good. Put bone Nicks right behind him. Listen.

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Speaker 1: He led Jayden Daniels, he led all rookies passing yards, completions,

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna put those guys eight and nine. Ten.

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Speaker 1: nine takeaways last year. He's a great player. Came from

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants, really really good player. Now in

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Speaker 1: eleven and twelve again, I think these guys could finish higher,

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Speaker 1: but they both come off injuries. Tylana Hufunga, the safety

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Speaker 1: great player. He was great at USC. He was great

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Speaker 1: put him eleven. I'm gonna put dra Greenlaw Denver at twelve.

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Speaker 1: The linebacker. He was the fifth highest rinted linebacker by PFF. Again,

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Speaker 1: and here's the thing, it's not that I dislike Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: I just what's their best unit. You'd be like, oh,

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Speaker 1: receiver with their first pick? Because Christian Watson can't stay healthy? Well,

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Speaker 1: they're offensive line, usually a strength PFF has at fourteen.

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Speaker 1: So organizational stability has always been outstanding in Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: just they don't have enough great players. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: doubting it would happen. The for Denver is better than

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Speaker 1: that Sean Payton's better than Matt Lafleur. I like both,

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Speaker 1: Shawn's different. So I just don't know exactly what to

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Speaker 1: do with Green Bay. Jmck I know they're good. They won.

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Speaker 1: I mean, listen, last year they had quarterback injuries. They

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Speaker 1: still want eleven games, but I think the division's better

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Speaker 4: Hey, can you pop that on the screen once again, Colin?

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Speaker 5: Because I think that list that you just came up with,

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Speaker 5: I think this is a first in the history of

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Speaker 4: There's not one wide receiver or tight end on this list?

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Speaker 4: Am I correct?

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Speaker 1: Here? Now? I love you? No, No, I love Courtland

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Speaker 1: Sutton's Was he not top twelve? I mean, well, I

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Speaker 1: hadn't played a snap in Denver, okay, But Hafunnga and

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Speaker 1: Greenlaw were elite Pro Bowl level players. Sutton, in a

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Speaker 1: lot of eyes, is a number two receiver. I like him.

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Speaker 1: He's a lower end one or a great two. Remember

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Speaker 1: Michael Pittman of the Colts, like is he a one

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Speaker 1: or a great two? So I look, I like Courtland

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Speaker 1: potential talent. And again, I love Courtland, but I would

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Speaker 1: probably have him thirteen and that would be another Denver guy. Yeh.

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Speaker 4: Christian Watson just two injury.

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Speaker 1: You can't stay healthy. So im, if you told me thirteen,

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Speaker 1: I would do Courtland Sutton and so now I have

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Speaker 1: nine of the top thirteen Denver. So when we think

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Speaker 5: What is it? Well, Lafleur's excellent. I don't know better.

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Speaker 5: They're both very very good. Maybe you go A and

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Speaker 4: Are they legit?

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Speaker 5: I would agree with you. I don't think the Packers are.

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Speaker 1: By the way Sutton Courtland Sutton twenty seventh wide receiver

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Speaker 5: No news, this is the herd line news, all right,

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes Colin.

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Speaker 4: Everybody loves him, We love to talk about him, but

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Speaker 1: Colin.

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Speaker 5: He's looking to change his game a little bit. Here's

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that for me. I gotta be better

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Speaker 5: And we have some stats to back that up that

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Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes over the last two seasons, Colin, he's kind

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Speaker 1: That is not good.

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Speaker 1: and I will defend him. Offensive line has been hit

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Speaker 4: They shift him out of town. Oh yet that interesting.

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Speaker 5: How about this colin Pittsburgh, GM Omar Khan met with

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Speaker 5: Despite it taking forever to happen, con never worried Rogers

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Speaker 4: Absolutely no shots.

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Speaker 5: So what's weird about that is the league should have

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Speaker 4: Remember, they load up.

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Speaker 1: take the over. But it's an eight or nine win team,

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Speaker 1: that's what it is.

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Speaker 5: We need a scoreboard. You're going over. I'm going under

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Speaker 5: for sure, eight and a half, and we're.

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Speaker 1: Just I'm I can be talked into either one. Let

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Speaker 1: me watch the preseason. Does everybody stay healthy? I mean, honestly,

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Speaker 1: let me watch the first Let me watch the preseason.

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Speaker 1: Let's see what the camp shows us. But I ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna be I think it'd be.

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Speaker 4: Fine, Okay, all right.

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Speaker 5: Next up is Baker Mayfield, who has bounced around a

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Speaker 5: bit in the NFL before landing in Tampa, and it

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Speaker 5: feels like he's found a.

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Speaker 4: Home pro bowler coach seasons.

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Speaker 5: At training camp, Baker talked about like Tampa is such

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Speaker 5: a great fit.

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Speaker 8: This isn't on the other teams and franchises. Like when

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Speaker 8: you step in and your GM and your head coach say, hey,

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Speaker 8: just be you. After I've been told at every stop

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Speaker 8: and everywhere I go, hey, you need to tone it

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Speaker 8: down a little bit.

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Speaker 1: You need to be a franchise quarterback. It's just not

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Speaker 1: who I am.

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Speaker 8: Like, I wear my emotions on my sleeves, talk I'm

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Speaker 8: gonna do whatever. But when it's time to turn the

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Speaker 8: lights on and go do something, I'm gonna do it.

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Speaker 8: So when I stepped into the building. They all told

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Speaker 8: me to just be myself.

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Speaker 1: I still have hopes I can get them back on

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Speaker 1: the show. Your boy Baker, Yeah, because if somebody asked

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Speaker 1: Baker about me a year ago and he said, we're

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Speaker 1: front of me, that's what That's what he said, And

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Speaker 1: I think I don't think. I think I told her

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Speaker 1: the story about what he did at a restaurant in

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Speaker 1: la He's a really good guy. Baker is a really

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Speaker 1: good guy. He's had to deal with some family nonsense,

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Speaker 1: but he's a really good guy, and he and Emily

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Speaker 1: are good people. I am genuinely happy for him, and

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Speaker 1: I think i've I've even in the darkest hour, I

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Speaker 1: always said, oh, he's the starting quarterback. He throws a

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Speaker 1: beautiful ball. When he can plan it and let it rip,

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Speaker 1: he throws a great ball. He now, sometimes he gets

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Speaker 1: ahead of himself and he can get a little reckless.

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Speaker 1: Soa can Darnold so can He can get a little reckless.

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Speaker 1: Sometimes his confidence is better than his game. But that's

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Speaker 1: part of the beauty of him, is that he's got

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Speaker 1: incredible confidence. They're gonna win that division.

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Speaker 4: I'll go Aheadtlanta. Yeah, we're just on opposite side. Today, Man,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Colin.

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Speaker 1: Well, there's a right side on your side. So that's

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Speaker 1: all the sides were on. J Mack with the News.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news.

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Speaker 1: And thanks for stopping by the herd Line News. I

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Speaker 1: really you know, I talked about this to start the show,

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Speaker 1: is that people were so freaked out, and I understand this.

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Speaker 1: I think I was talking to Danny Parkins about this

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Speaker 1: on a podcast yesterday that if you take AI, watch

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Speaker 1: how people react to AI. There are people out there

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Speaker 1: in life that are just they don't like change. They

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Speaker 1: get very new erotic on stuff. You can see it

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Speaker 1: with AI. The world's going to end. And then there

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Speaker 1: are people that I didn't grow up in a traditional household,

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Speaker 1: so I like change. I've moved all over the country.

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Speaker 1: I now live in Chicago. I love it. How do

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Speaker 1: you I love it? It's just I like change. I like

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Speaker 1: new stuff. My wife's the same way. And I think

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Speaker 1: AI is going to be revolutionary. I'm not worried about

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Speaker 1: robots taking over the world. I think in science and

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Speaker 1: in medicine, it's going to change everything. We're going to have.

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Speaker 1: We're going to find cures for cancer, it's going to

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Speaker 1: save lives. I think AI is unbelievable, and I trust

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Speaker 1: the smartest people in the world to put enough guardrails

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Speaker 1: on it that the robots are not going to be

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Speaker 1: knocking on my door and slinging me around the yard.

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Speaker 1: But and so, when the college football playoffs was announced,

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Speaker 1: I mean, there was just a lot of naysayers and

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Speaker 1: negative people. What about the bowl games? What about them?

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Speaker 1: Most are awful, Half the seats are empty. Well what

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Speaker 1: about the rivalries. You're not gonna watch Ohio State Michigan

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Speaker 1: if it's on, you're not gonna watch it. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: watch it, Well, it won't feel the same. It will

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Speaker 1: if your team's winning or your bets winning, it'll feel

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Speaker 1: just the same. So I love that Ohio State and

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Speaker 1: Texas are playing. And the thing I really like about

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Speaker 1: it you can be aggressive. You can take chances in

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Speaker 1: your play calling because you can lose the game and

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Speaker 1: still lose another game, and both these teams can get

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Speaker 1: into the playoff. Think about last year, Ohio State they

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Speaker 1: lose a go either way game at Oregon in the

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Speaker 1: old system, they lose to Michigan and the season's over

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Speaker 1: because they were a home favorite. Season's over. Fiestable. Instead

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Speaker 1: they win the National Championship. They use that loss as

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Speaker 1: jet fuel the staff, the players. That's how it works

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. When the Raiders beat the Chiefs years

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Speaker 1: ago at the end of the year and the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. This idea that this harsh punitive

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Speaker 1: action for a nineteen year old kid losing a game,

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Speaker 1: you should. I mean, if you look at how many

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Speaker 1: games these teams are playing, if you count the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: like sixteen games, you got to go fifteen and one

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Speaker 1: with a transfer portal with the nil I mean, Georgia

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Speaker 1: now doesn't have a third great receiver. They're lucky to

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Speaker 1: have two. The third guy just got poached by Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: or Louisville. So you don't these You can't stock pile

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Speaker 1: talent at Georgia or LSU because the minute you have

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Speaker 1: a five star guy by the beginning of his sophomore year,

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Speaker 1: if he's not playing, he's gonna go play it. Oklahoma,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna go play it. Clemson, he's out, he's leaving.

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Speaker 1: So the teams aren't gonna be as dominating as those

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Speaker 1: Alabama teams eight years ago. They're not going to be

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Speaker 1: as deep. You're not going to be able to have

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Speaker 1: two offensive line injuries. You're done. It's over. So I mean,

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Speaker 1: here was sark on facing the Ohio State and the

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Speaker 1: opener in Columbus.

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Speaker 9: That's the beauty of this format, now that you can

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Speaker 9: afford to play these games. It's great for the fans,

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Speaker 9: it's great for college football. Everybody's talking about it, and

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Speaker 9: I was jokingly saying, you know, it's so different than

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Speaker 9: the NFL. Nobody's talking about week one matchups in the NFL.

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Speaker 9: Everybody's talking about this game. And then the idea that

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Speaker 9: I don't think either of us get punished playing this game. Obviously,

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Speaker 9: we all we both need to play well throughout the

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Speaker 9: entirety of the season. But sure, it's what a spotlight

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Speaker 9: it puts on both programs as well as college football.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it just makes no sense. We don't ask

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Speaker 1: thirty two year old professional football players to go seventeen

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Speaker 1: to zero or fifteen and two, but we're asking nineteen,

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Speaker 1: twenty and twenty one year old kids, Hey, you lose

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Speaker 1: the opener, you got to win the rest of your games.

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Speaker 1: That's why the playoff is great. It allows coaches to

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Speaker 1: take risks, schedule bigger games, young people can grow. These

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Speaker 1: college football players from week two to week seven, you

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Speaker 1: have a different person. They got midterms and girlfriends in classes.

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Speaker 1: Let them grow. It's okay to lose a couple of games.

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Speaker 1: I love the college Football Playoff for the growth of

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Speaker 1: the young people playing it. Lincoln Riley's now joining US

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Speaker 1: Entersports season at USC. You know, Lincoln, all of this

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Speaker 1: stuff is you're growing with it. The nil, the portal.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk portal. What have you learned about the portal

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Speaker 1: from the first year you dealt with it to now?

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Speaker 1: Like is there something that you know to be true

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Speaker 1: with the portal? Or is it still kind of you

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Speaker 1: take your swings at it and you cross your fingers

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Speaker 1: all right? Right now, he can't hear us, Lincoln Riley

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Speaker 1: can't hear us. All right, We'll try to get it right,

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Speaker 1: because that's the thing about like when the portal came

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Speaker 1: out again, just like the playoff, everybody freaked out with

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Speaker 1: a portal. And my takeaway was, Guys, if you hire

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Speaker 1: a new coach and they use the portal, I mean

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Speaker 1: Dion Sanders without the portal, he'd still be rebuilding Colorado.

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Speaker 1: He'd still be rebuilding Colorado. I mean Lincoln Riley won

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Speaker 1: eleven games first year at USC that had thirty guys

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Speaker 1: in the portal. I mean, if you want to sit

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Speaker 1: and wait for three years to build a program, but

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Speaker 1: the portal allows you to build it virtually overnight. We'll

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Speaker 1: take a break back with Lincoln Riley next.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 2: and noon Eastern a em Pacific on Fox Sports Radio

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Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 1: Lincoln Riley fourth year USC. They have struggled in their

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Speaker 1: opening year in the Big Ten, So I got to

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Speaker 1: ask you to start. The weather's colder, the flights are longer. Stylistically,

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Speaker 1: it's different than the air raid, all the passing in

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Speaker 1: the seventy degree weather of the of the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 1: So is there when you this offseason looked at your roster.

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Speaker 1: Did you recruit and say, hey this, we got to

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Speaker 1: get bigger here, we got to get sturdier here. Did

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Speaker 1: it change because you were kind of flying blind you

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Speaker 1: just went into the Big Ten? Did you build your

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Speaker 1: roster accordingly? Did you make alterations?

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Speaker 10: We did, And I think some of that's in response

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Speaker 10: to the Big Ten, but also think a lot of

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Speaker 10: it is just response to our natural growth as a program.

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Speaker 10: Now we want to be a team that's a national

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Speaker 10: championship contender every single year, like you should expect at

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Speaker 10: USC and to do that you have to be great

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Speaker 10: on the line of scrimmage, and so we've certainly tried

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Speaker 10: to build that throughout the years. I think this group

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Speaker 10: coming up on both fronts, has a chance to be

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Speaker 10: the very best we've had, and certainly see a major difference,

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Speaker 10: especially on the defensive line that I know if they dividends.

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Speaker 1: This year, you know you guys got your nil in order.

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Speaker 1: Now there is a sense with Jen Cohen people can

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Speaker 1: look can go well, what about the record and what

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Speaker 1: about the record? But the reality is is that the

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Speaker 1: portal in the nil create advantages and sometimes they muddy

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Speaker 1: it up. I want to go back to the question

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Speaker 1: I ask you, what have you learned about the portal

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Speaker 1: that you like and that you may have a cautionary

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Speaker 1: tale about. How do you view the portal today? Lincoln?

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Speaker 10: Well, the portal is just another tool to build your roster,

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Speaker 10: and certainly it gives teams opportunities to really maybe shock

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Speaker 10: the system when it hasn't been successful. I mean our

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Speaker 10: first year at US is a great example. We went

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Speaker 10: heavy in the portal, we were able to have a

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Speaker 10: really good season. But also, you know, the portal has

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Speaker 10: it's dangerous, right You don't get a real chance to

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Speaker 10: evaluate and get to know a lot of these guys.

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Speaker 10: Some of these guys are coming in for such a

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Speaker 10: short amount of time and finding the right fit I

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Speaker 10: think can be very very difficult.

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Speaker 1: And so you know, we're a great example.

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Speaker 10: And then you see teams across the country are having

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Speaker 10: to decide are we going to really be a portal

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Speaker 10: heavy team that dabbles in high school ri's recruiting or

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Speaker 10: are we going to be vice versa. And certainly we

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Speaker 10: know what we did early at USC, but we've certainly

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Speaker 10: pivoted to what we believe we want to be and

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Speaker 10: know we want to be long term, especially being in

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Speaker 10: Los Angeles and in southern California. And that's a high

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Speaker 10: school developmental program that uses the portal sparingly. And I

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Speaker 10: think our you know, upcoming recruiting class is a great

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Speaker 10: example of that.

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Speaker 1: Jade, my ive as your quarterback comes from you in LV.

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Speaker 1: You also get a five star best high school football

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Speaker 1: player arguably in LA in the program, so you want

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Speaker 1: to be patient, but there are kids that are really

651
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Speaker 1: good really soon. And I've seen your five star all

652
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Speaker 1: you know, all the highlights, and it's a lot of

653
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Speaker 1: jaw dropping wild stuff. Could it be a rotational situation?

654
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Speaker 1: How do you weigh it? When you have an enormously

655
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Speaker 1: gifted back up quarterback, you have a very tough schedule,

656
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Speaker 1: how do you weigh that stuff? Well, it's first world problems, right.

657
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Speaker 10: Having two guys that you really believe in and multiple

658
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Speaker 10: guys that you believe in a quarterback room is a

659
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Speaker 10: great thing. It's hard to do, especially in this day

660
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Speaker 10: and age. We were super impressed without Jaye Mayeva played

661
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Speaker 10: in the last four games, has four starts. We went

662
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Speaker 10: three and one against four really quality teams, four very

663
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Speaker 10: strong defenses, and thought he did some just really really

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Speaker 10: outstanding work in those games. And he's grown and progressed

665
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Speaker 10: a lot. Certainly, Hassan long Street is a really special

666
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Speaker 10: talent that I think is certainly one of those guys

667
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Speaker 10: that is going to get better quickly and certainly could

668
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Speaker 10: have a role on this football team, There's no doubt

669
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Speaker 10: about it. And then really plays with Sam Hewart as well.

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Speaker 10: I think the room is as deep as we've had

671
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Speaker 10: it at USC and from then on, it's competition. Now,

672
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Speaker 10: that's what the best programs are based on. There's got

673
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Speaker 10: to be competition in that room and we always want that.

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Speaker 10: We've always had that, and we think that's the reason

675
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Speaker 10: that our quarterback rooms throughout history have been pretty successful.

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Speaker 1: If you go back to your Oklahoma years, we didn't

677
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Speaker 1: have a twelve team playoff, right, we didn't have that

678
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Speaker 1: we do now. And I've said this, I I it's

679
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Speaker 1: a different world. I look at your schedule and it's like, Okay,

680
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Speaker 1: do you I mean, how do you go five six

681
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Speaker 1: years ago? I look at your schedule and I think, Man,

682
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Speaker 1: that Michigan, that Illinois, Michigan, Notre Dame Nebraska run. That

683
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Speaker 1: is rough? Do you? And then you have a couple

684
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Speaker 1: of games early that you will be heavy favorites. Do

685
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Speaker 1: you think if you went six years ago, Lincoln, do

686
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Speaker 1: you look at the season more as a whole? Are

687
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Speaker 1: you more strategic with it because now it could be

688
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Speaker 1: potentially a fifteen game schedule if you get into the playoff.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I think that you certainly have to factor that in.

690
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Speaker 10: I mean, so much of this has changed. I think one,

691
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Speaker 10: you know, like you said, keep it in mind that

692
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Speaker 10: this season could be several games longer than anything we

693
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Speaker 10: ever would have thought of, you know, multiple years ago.

694
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Speaker 10: And I think the other thing that you have to really,

695
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Speaker 10: you know, pay attention to it maybe create awareness of

696
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Speaker 10: one staff, the coaches, fans, everybody is you know, now,

697
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Speaker 10: you know, losing a game here or there, you know,

698
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,759
Speaker 10: doesn't put you out, whereas years ago, you know, you

699
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Speaker 10: knew pretty quickly that it was going to be a

700
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Speaker 10: tough road to have a chance to get back to

701
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Speaker 10: the playoff. I mean, heck, the national champion last year

702
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Speaker 10: lost two games, and so I think it's something that

703
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Speaker 10: everybody's kind of got to get used to, especially with

704
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Speaker 10: these you know, almost super conferences starting to get established,

705
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Speaker 10: like the Big ten in the SEC has done, where

706
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Speaker 10: there's so many good football teams, you know, week in

707
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Speaker 10: and week out, the competitions high, the parodies high, and

708
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Speaker 10: so yeah, I think it's you've had to change your mindset,

709
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Speaker 10: and I think you have to have an awareness within

710
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Speaker 10: the program then adapt to whatever systems in front of

711
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Speaker 10: us at the current time.

712
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Speaker 1: So your first seven years a head coach, you were

713
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Speaker 1: a top ten offensive team every year Oklahoma USC last year,

714
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Speaker 1: it drops off some of it. It was a turnover year.

715
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Speaker 1: You were also very young. I mean your two receivers

716
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Speaker 1: I love were both kids. Do you look at it

717
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Speaker 1: as you turnovers? What happened last year that you look

718
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Speaker 1: at the season as it ends and you said, hey,

719
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Speaker 1: we got to clean this up, we got to get

720
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Speaker 1: better here. Where will you make the two biggest leaps

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Speaker 1: offensively to get back to a top ten offense, which

722
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Speaker 1: you were your first seven years a head coach?

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Speaker 10: I think I think first I would look at our

724
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Speaker 10: at our offensive line, the recruiting, the development that we've done.

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Speaker 10: I feel like we really have championship caliber depth and

726
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Speaker 10: a really strong strong starting group.

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Speaker 1: There right now.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 10: And then yeah, I think the big thing for us

730
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Speaker 10: is is you've certainly, you know, we've got to get

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Speaker 10: more consistent play, you know, out of our quarterback position

732
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Speaker 10: as well. And that was a that was a you know,

733
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Speaker 10: we had some really great moments last year, but also

734
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Speaker 10: you know, we turned it over a few too many times.

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Speaker 10: And when you're playing, you know, in a league like

736
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Speaker 10: what's being created where you're playing a really good defense

737
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Speaker 10: just about every single week, you know that's that there's

738
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Speaker 10: going to.

739
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Speaker 1: Become a little bit more pressure on that.

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Speaker 10: Right, the windows to make throws or to make plays,

741
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Speaker 10: or the opportunities to score points are going to start

742
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Speaker 10: to tell up. So you've got to be that much sharper.

743
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Speaker 10: So certainly our expectations are as high as they possibly

744
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Speaker 10: could be there, and I think this group has a

745
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Speaker 10: chance to be one of the best groups in the country.

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Speaker 1: I was watching the Caleb Williams story in Chicago, and

747
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Speaker 1: it's interesting about quarterbacks. When a quarterback gets out of rhythm,

748
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Speaker 1: it could be Caleb, it could be your young kids.

749
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Speaker 1: Now go back to your career, could be Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 1: When a quarterback is a little out of sorts, reportedly

751
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 1: Caleb has been in camp, what do you tell, like,

752
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Speaker 1: do you keep message messaging simple for quarterbacks? They have

753
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Speaker 1: to know the whole playback. In your career of coaching quarterbacks,

754
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Speaker 1: you've hat Heisman winners, you've got first rounders, number one picks.

755
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Speaker 1: What is a message that almost always works for any

756
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Speaker 1: young quarterback that's a little out of rhythm or struggling. Well,

757
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Speaker 1: you said a word there.

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Speaker 10: I think simplicity is very important, And then I think

759
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 10: it's important for the coach to remember It's such a

760
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 10: confidence driven position. And so often in my career with guys,

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Speaker 10: even some of the guys that were more experiencing and

762
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 10: played a lot of ball, you know, when when they

763
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Speaker 10: got out of rhythm, it was just kind of going

764
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Speaker 10: back to the basics, you know, going back to the

765
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Speaker 10: day one things that they learned, because that's what they're

766
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Speaker 10: going to have the most confidence, They're going to have

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Speaker 10: the most repetitions banked on, and a lot of times

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Speaker 10: that helps those guys settle in. And then I think

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Speaker 10: it's also you know on every coach and head coach

770
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Speaker 10: that you've got that type of relationship, you know, with

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Speaker 10: your guys, and so that there is that trust built

772
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Speaker 10: and you can have that conversation and help adjust them

773
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Speaker 10: and get them back on the same page and get

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Speaker 10: them back playing confident football.

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Speaker 1: All right. Lincoln Riley entering his fourth season at USC.

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Speaker 1: There are twenty twenty six recruiting classes, number one in

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Speaker 1: the country. It is the best O and D line

778
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Speaker 1: size wise. Usc'll say it since the Pete Carroll era.

779
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 1: It is NFL bodies. They are big across both lines,

780
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Speaker 1: and I can't wait to watch it. Lincoln, I appreciate

781
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: stopping by anytime. Thanks going. Okay, yeah, it's the It

782
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Speaker 1: is the first time since I would say Pete Carroll

783
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: where you Their left tackle is going to be a pro,

784
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: their right guard is going to be a pro. They'll

785
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,200
Speaker 1: probably leave early defensive line, spend some money NFL bodies.

786
00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: But again, you start looking at that schedule. Look, they've

787
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: got a four game stretch that is brutal. Illinois returned

788
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Speaker 1: sixteen starters. This is the best Illinois football team in

789
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Speaker 1: a decade. Okay, Illinois is good. That is a tough game.

790
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Speaker 1: First four, you'll be favored. Michigan at home, very winnable,

791
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Speaker 1: playing probably a freshman quarterback. Notre Name on the road,

792
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Speaker 1: good luck. Nebraska has trouble written all over it. So

793
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Speaker 1: obviously at Oregon and at Notre Dame, you can lose

794
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Speaker 1: those games and make the playoffs. Those are really good team.

795
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Speaker 1: It's how you lose them. You get right, Like Ohio

796
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: State lost twice close to Oregon, close to Michigan. Can't

797
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Speaker 1: get blown out. But if you look at that schedule

798
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Speaker 1: at Notre Name, in at Oregon, they're going to be underdogs.

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Speaker 1: They're going to be favorites a lot nine wins. Let

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Speaker 1: me think here one, two, three, four, five, I've six, seven, eight,

801
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Speaker 1: I have nine wins. What are you shaking your head out?

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Speaker 4: I mean nine wins, and your boy's going to keep

803
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Speaker 4: his job, that's for sure.

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Speaker 1: He's keeping his job.

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Speaker 5: Well, listen, it's one of he's You see all these

806
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Speaker 5: hot seat lists. I don't think he deserves to be

807
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Speaker 5: on there because of the contract. He's not going anywhere.

808
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Speaker 5: But you look at the hot seat Listen, he's up there.

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Speaker 4: Colin, You're at the top.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what they say. You know all I know,

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Speaker 1: you know there are people out there that love the

812
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: NFL but don't watch college football. How can you not

813
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Speaker 1: watch some of these games? Like, I mean, honestly, I

814
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Speaker 1: looked at the Labor Day schedule. There was obviously Texas,

815
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Speaker 1: Ohio State. College football is so much fun, and I

816
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Speaker 1: do think, I really do think this. The quarterback play

817
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 1: in college is so much better than ten years ago.

818
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Speaker 1: These guys have so many seven on seven camps and

819
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Speaker 1: private tutoring and private coaching. You got Lsu, not Smyer,

820
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Speaker 1: you got Aller, you got arch manning the kid at

821
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Speaker 1: South Carolina. There's like five or six guys and by

822
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Speaker 1: the way, there will be a quarterback in college that

823
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: emerges by week six, seven or eight, we're all gonna go,

824
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Speaker 1: I didn't know about this guy, like.

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Speaker 2: A cam Ward.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we thought cam Ward was interesting at

827
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Speaker 1: Washington State and you look up and you're like, oh

828
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Speaker 1: my god. So I mean we could have we could

829
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Speaker 1: have six first round quarterbacks and we got three of

830
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Speaker 1: them being keep your eye on the kit at Clemson.

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Speaker 1: Highly highly productive. It is the ACC, but highly productive.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

833
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Speaker 1: So we've had sark On, Lincoln, Ryan Day, and James Frank.

834
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Speaker 5: I love your optimism this week. You're really in a

835
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 5: positive headspace right now. Every you think, every quarterback is amazing,

836
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Speaker 5: Every team is outstanding. You're loving everything right now except

837
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Speaker 5: the Lakers and Clippers. But fortunately Lakers will be fine.

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Speaker 5: NBA's on the back burner.

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Speaker 1: No, Lakers will be fine. DeAndre Ayton, Marcus Smart, Lebron,

840
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves, Luca. That's a fine team. But it's the

841
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 1: way if you put them in the East, they could

842
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: buy for a conference championship series. Absolutely, the West is

843
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: a whole different ballgame. It's the difference between the ACC

844
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:09,080
Speaker 1: and the Big Ten. It's the whole different ballgame. The

845
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: West is completely stacked. Mark Sanchez is going to be

846
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Speaker 1: stopping by last hour of the former Trojan good Stuff.

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Speaker 1: Two down, one to go. It's thirt