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Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Timing is everything.

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Speaker 1: The door opened, Spencer Susman walks in the song ended

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Speaker 1: you were on. Here we go, Hi, Spencer, there he is,

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Speaker 1: welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much. It's very very very good to

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Speaker 2: be here.

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Speaker 1: God, we saw you how many years ago, four five, five,

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Speaker 1: five years ago, and you had fantastic hair then, and

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Speaker 1: you have fantastic hare now.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. It's just a little bit longer now.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's got an album coming out next next month.

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Speaker 1: I mean it's all about music, of course, Daniel makes

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Speaker 1: it about how you smell and what you look like

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Speaker 1: whenever you walk, and I always smell you. So far

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Speaker 1: you smell great. That's great news. I'm so sorry we've

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Speaker 1: we've gone from the deep probing interview.

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Speaker 3: I think we should focus on how I smell, not

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Speaker 3: the record that I have coming out. Because are you

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Speaker 3: nervous a little bit?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 3: Because I walked in and sat down and thirty seconds

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Speaker 3: later we're talking. I know we didn't give you any

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Speaker 3: time to relax, Okay, I like it that way. So

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Speaker 3: I think I met you at a function. It was

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Speaker 3: an industry function, like a wine dinner. Yeah, you're wearing

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Speaker 3: a blue You're wearing a leather jacket. What's that really? Yes,

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Speaker 3: that adds up for me in like twenty eighteen. I

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Speaker 3: think that feels like like probably skinny rip jeans. I

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Speaker 3: think it could be. Yeah, sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: But you know what, So here's the thing, Spencer Sutherland.

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Speaker 1: Is I believe from Ohio R Yes, raised you know

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Speaker 1: Gandhi's Ohio.

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Speaker 2: I know. I listened to you growing up. I listened to.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, I love this.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing see someone someone does care. I care.

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Speaker 2: I'm here to care. I know you care.

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Speaker 1: I'm here to smell good and care. So thank god,

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Speaker 1: we're so busy. We have so many, so many boxes

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Speaker 1: to check off.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I met you, and that was years ago

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Speaker 1: at Alyssa Pollock's wine dinner. That's where it was, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: shout out Alissa and uh and then you came to

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Speaker 1: see us. You performed first then and then pandemic hit

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Speaker 1: and you really kind of you really bounced on TikTok

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Speaker 1: during pandemic. I'm assuming that's that's where it really started exploding.

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, I mean I genuinely changed my life, like so,

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Speaker 3: I kind of fought social media.

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Speaker 2: At the beginning, it was like, oh, real artists don't

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Speaker 2: need to be on here.

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Speaker 3: And then I saw Bruno Mars in there and I

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Speaker 3: was like, well, you know, I think that we need

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Speaker 3: to reevaluate. And then that genuinely over the next couple

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Speaker 3: of years like changed everything. It was insane so cool.

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Speaker 1: So it's safe to say Pandemic had some great, great

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Speaker 1: moments for you. Yeah, in your life, we all say, definitely,

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Speaker 1: I've I mastered Banana Bread Bacon really so we got

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Speaker 1: that covid did you bring any and ty Dike No, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm over that phase. So the album coming out, okay, So, uh,

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Speaker 1: how do you describe it? There's there. It's kind of

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Speaker 1: a rock opera ish kind of feel. It's like Queen

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Speaker 1: a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a little I don't use names of other bands,

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Speaker 2: but oh I don't care.

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Speaker 3: I don't you know if you're if anybody's putting me

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Speaker 3: in the same sentence with Queen and David Bowie and

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Speaker 3: Elton John, that's great.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: It's like a love child of all like the best

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Speaker 3: glam rock stuff. I remember how I felt when I

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Speaker 3: heard like my first like you know, like full record,

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Speaker 3: the one that changed my life all those and I've

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Speaker 3: always wanted to make one, but it's hard to do,

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Speaker 3: like a song with like a six minute guitar solo

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Speaker 3: for gen Z fans.

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Speaker 2: I think.

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Speaker 3: So it's like a it's like a modern rock opera.

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Speaker 3: It's like my version of that. I always say that

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Speaker 3: when I was a kid, I broke into my brother's bedroom.

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Speaker 3: I found his pot drawer, but beyond that, I found

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Speaker 3: his turntable and huge speakers and amplifier, and he said,

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Speaker 3: if you ever get into my room and mess with

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Speaker 3: my albums, I'll kill you. So Queen and Bohemian Rhapsody

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Speaker 3: was the first record I ever listened to. To me, that

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Speaker 3: is a the ultimate of rock opera.

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Speaker 2: It's maybe the best album ever.

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Speaker 3: It's I mean, every everything, all those like all that

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Speaker 3: music is just so special and cool, and I really

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Speaker 3: want to bring back that feel to pop music because

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Speaker 3: I think, I don't know, I think he's missing a

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Speaker 1: The name of the album, of course, is the drama.

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Speaker 1: The drama, right? And why why did you decide this

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Speaker 1: was important for this body of work because then I

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Speaker 1: could wear these shirts and go places. This is my Seinfeld.

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Speaker 1: What's it called? Like the the pirate shirt.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I wear this, did.

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Speaker 1: You actually dress as like Elvis Presley when you went

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Speaker 1: to school when you're a kid?

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah? Can I say hell y on this?

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Speaker 1: You can go as far as you say. Penises. Penis

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Speaker 1: is a good one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Penis.

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Speaker 1: Live from New York. Penis exactly really pretty much says

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Speaker 1: it all. But I mean, so you've you've been sort

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Speaker 1: of of a c at all. You've been a You've

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Speaker 1: been a creature of drama since you were a kid,

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Speaker 1: even before you knew what drama really meant. So if

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Speaker 1: you if you do rock opera ish things in an

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Speaker 1: album called the Drama, where does that take us in

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Speaker 1: your mind?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean genuinely, I like think it's I think

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Speaker 3: it's great to romanticize your life and like kind of

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Speaker 3: treat it like a movie sometimes, and that that is

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Speaker 3: kind of what this is. It's like, it's like the

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Speaker 3: story of me. It's the story of my life and

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Speaker 3: and really my like experience in the music industry because

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Speaker 3: it's been treacherous and also it has it has been

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Speaker 3: a lot of people, you know, like fake promises and everything,

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Speaker 3: and and but there's a lot of good people like

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Speaker 3: it's it's great to see you again. And you're one

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Speaker 3: of the people that gave me a chance, like really

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Speaker 3: early on before probably before I was ready for the show,

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Speaker 3: and I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: And there's a lot of good people. You're ready, I'm ready,

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Speaker 2: You're ready? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What is it? Did you wake up one morning.

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Speaker 2: Go I'm ready?

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Speaker 1: Something just clicks You're like, Okay, I was great. I

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Speaker 1: was good, I was learning, but now I'm I'm ready

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I was trying to make very goalpost pop music and

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Speaker 3: I looked at my my my Spotify, and it was

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Speaker 3: like seventies music and eighties music and Elvis and Prince

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Speaker 3: and I was like, hmmm, something is not connecting here.

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Speaker 1: Ye.

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Speaker 3: So I kind of took a step back and genuinely like,

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Speaker 3: like I read people's comments on TikTok, why were these

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Speaker 3: videos going viral? Like what was the thing about this

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Speaker 3: that like the one hundred before didn't, but this one did.

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Speaker 3: Then I started following that and doing research and deep

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Speaker 3: diving and and and they led this sounds kind of cheesy,

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Speaker 3: but they did lead me to like who who I

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Speaker 1: I'm really that's cheesy at all.

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Speaker 3: I was really nervous to wear nail polish the first time,

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Speaker 3: and then I got like a thousand like, oh my god,

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Speaker 3: I love me nail polish. It made me feel like

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Speaker 3: I could be me.

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Speaker 1: You know, Okay, all right good.

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Speaker 3: I started wearing my girlfriend's shirts and people were like,

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Speaker 3: let's go nic I love it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, nice and tight.

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Speaker 4: And when you talk about the treachery of the music industry,

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Speaker 4: I feel like that is what everyone is talking about

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Speaker 4: right now. It's very of the moment. Are you reading

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's just like this whole like sorr,

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Speaker 3: there's this whole, this whole, like this idea that when

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Speaker 3: used to be able to get away with things, and

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Speaker 3: I feel like you just can't get away with stuff

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Speaker 2: A little bit bad. I just don't believe a lot

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Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah we don't. I'll believe you when I

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Speaker 1: trust you. Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I've been told like you could be the next

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Speaker 3: so many times and I've never even heard of that.

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Speaker 1: Well, so wait, is that what you can tell yourself now?

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Speaker 1: Like you're thirty one? Now, right, you're thirty one, I'm.

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Speaker 2: Twenty one, twenty first birthday.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you're twenty one? Now what would you No,

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Speaker 4: What would you tell me?

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Speaker 2: I could play a high school senior right now?

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Speaker 1: NERD years thirty one. Back to my question, So sorry,

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Speaker 1: that's fine. What would you tell you? Is that what

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Speaker 3: I would say when when I was like going through,

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Speaker 2: I thought I was like, oh my god, to be

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Speaker 3: And now I've never felt more like myself than right

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Speaker 3: two years. I figured it out, and I would go

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Speaker 3: find it, you'll figure it out.

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Speaker 1: You know. I hear this all the time. If you

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Speaker 1: could tell your twenty year old self, no, that's b it.

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Speaker 1: You need to go you need to go through those

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Speaker 1: years of rap. Yeah, but there's a couple of things,

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Speaker 1: like you'd like to go back and just say, don't

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 2: I would still go through it.

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Speaker 3: I would just be like, hey, just like, instead of

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Speaker 3: letting it keep you up all damn night? Yeah, can't

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Speaker 3: I say damn.

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Speaker 1: Instead of you say Penis you're gonna say damn?

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Speaker 3: Wells was gonna say instead of letting it keep you

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Speaker 3: up all Penis night? You should just you should just

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I know what you mean.

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Speaker 2: You shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we we've become at early twenties, we become so

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Speaker 1: obsessed that we let it take over our lives. And yeah,

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Speaker 1: well look, okay, by the way, turning us on Spencer

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Speaker 1: Sutherland is here, I have a call. Hold on By

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Speaker 1: the way, there will be a song performed live.

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Speaker 2: Are you okay with that? Good sounds great? You have

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Speaker 2: a guitar with you? Can you get this?

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Speaker 1: I think, Mama, I'm waiting for impanada mama to deliver

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Speaker 1: my breakfast.

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Speaker 2: What did you get panadas? You ready? I don't?

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Speaker 1: I don't we distain your blouse? Hold on, Steph? Is

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Speaker 1: this you?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 1: It is obviously you're a big fan of Spencer Sutherland

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Speaker 1: a long time, which is sweird. Since how long? For

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Speaker 1: how long?

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Speaker 2: Twenty fourteen? Wow? That's ten years? Yeah, I did the math.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how did Howard?

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Speaker 2: I saw him at run around Tour at six Flags

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Speaker 2: and Jackson's in New Jersey. Wow, Steph? What's your last name? Plaza?

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Speaker 1: You should know what I know?

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Speaker 3: Exactly who you are, exactly who you are. No, this

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Speaker 3: is like this is what I call before a day

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Speaker 3: one Like this is genuinely I think I was doing like.

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Speaker 2: Like covers of Isy Okay, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, okay, that's how I found you.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, that's so cool.

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Speaker 4: Wow?

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Speaker 2: Wow? Yeah you live in you live in Jersey? Right?

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Speaker 2: I do live in Jersey?

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Speaker 4: Yes?

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Speaker 2: Wow, I do know, Steph. I know you.

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Speaker 1: I feel like you're like a mentalist as well. I

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Speaker 1: hear the word Abigail, the name Abigail. What does that

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Speaker 2: There's an old lady looking over your shoulder.

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Speaker 1: See so stell love So you know, so you've watched

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Speaker 1: Spencer Sutherland, uh, of course through the years, and he's

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Speaker 1: turned into an incredible performer as you're about to here

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Speaker 3: I mean you were in the basement actually, And I

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Speaker 3: really appreciate that's very sweet. It's nice to talk to

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Speaker 1: I'm so happy to be hearing you in D one hundred.

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Speaker 2: I listened to D one hundred every single morning on

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Speaker 4: So to hear your.

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Speaker 1: Voice and hear you talking on D one hundred, it's incredible.

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Speaker 1: There you go.

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Speaker 2: You're so sweet. I love you so much.

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Speaker 1: I love you. Make sure you turn it on. He's

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Speaker 1: about to sing. This is great. So, so there was

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Speaker 1: a guy walking down the street with a guitar and

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Speaker 1: you say, hey, let's invite him in.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he looked handsome.

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Speaker 3: He had a cool fade haircut and a rose shirt on.

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Speaker 2: I just thought and rings he looked great.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw him and then I asked his name

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Speaker 3: and he said Vin And I was like, you know,

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Speaker 3: what Let's.

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Speaker 1: Bring Vin in. By the way, you guys have met

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Speaker 1: Vin before. He he performed with Lessia Kara.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, familiar, Okay.

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Speaker 2: He gets around a lot.

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Speaker 1: He's a whore when it comes to that guitar. You

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Speaker 1: can say that too, Vin, thank you for coming in today.