WEBVTT - The Day Polish Pirates Pinched the Last Judgment

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda Land Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with I Heart Radio. The Book of Revelation in

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<v Speaker 1>the New Testament of the Christian Bible is interpreted in

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<v Speaker 1>several ways. For some, it's an apocalyptic prophecy involving the

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<v Speaker 1>second coming of Christ and the rapture of souls, and

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<v Speaker 1>the imagery for that interpretation has been popular among artists

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<v Speaker 1>over centuries, including the piece we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>in this episode, the Last Judgment. Ah ha, But some

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<v Speaker 1>of you may be wondering which one that's right. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a few last judgments, but only one has been

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<v Speaker 1>stolen that we know of, So let's narrow that down.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Rantram Marquis and I'm Holly Fry,

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<v Speaker 1>And actually there are more less judgments than you might expect.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, we will begin with the first known work.

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<v Speaker 1>Then we'll kind of make our way along the historical timeline.

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<v Speaker 1>With so many out there, you may be wondering, has

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<v Speaker 1>only one ben stolen? We'll find out along the way

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. First we're going to jump back to the

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<v Speaker 1>twelfth century. There is a mural painted from red tempera

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<v Speaker 1>on the west wall of the nave of the Church

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<v Speaker 1>of St. Peter and Paul at Childon Surrey. While it

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<v Speaker 1>is not named the Last Judgment, it depicts various iconographic

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<v Speaker 1>subjects from biblical stories of the end of the world.

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<v Speaker 1>This piece contrasts the ideas of heaven and hell. Its

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<v Speaker 1>upper half depicts the salvation of souls, its lower half

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<v Speaker 1>depicts demons and sinners awaiting judgments. The mural, while it's

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<v Speaker 1>had the most time in history to be injured or stolen,

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<v Speaker 1>never has been. It is no doubt to help that

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<v Speaker 1>it is painted directly onto the wall, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>case with some of the others on this list as well.

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<v Speaker 1>A money lender named Enrico s Graveni commissioned a series

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<v Speaker 1>of frescoes from Florentine painter Giotto, including a depiction of

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<v Speaker 1>the biblical story of the Last Judgment. For this Scraveny

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<v Speaker 1>chapel in Padua, Italy. Geogo completed the work around thirteen

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<v Speaker 1>o six. In the center of the fresco is Christ

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by angels. The apostles are depicted on either side

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<v Speaker 1>of him, each on their own throne, and the cross,

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<v Speaker 1>which is seen below. Christ is carried by two angels

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<v Speaker 1>dividing Heaven from Hell. Hell is depicted on the lower right,

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<v Speaker 1>with Satan shown as a large blue figure in the center,

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by tortured souls and Nope. This one, too has

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<v Speaker 1>been safe since its creation more than seven hundred years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioned by the Countess of Egremont in eighteen o seven,

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<v Speaker 1>who was inspired by Michelangelo's Last Judgment, William Blake created

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<v Speaker 1>a piece in ink and watercolor entitled A Vision of

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<v Speaker 1>the Last Judgment. Within the notes of his piece, Blake wrote, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>whenever any individual rejects error and embraces truth, a last

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<v Speaker 1>Judgment passes upon that individual his vision of the Last Judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>It has been safe for more than two centuries. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there's Philip the Good, Duke of Burgundy, who considered

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<v Speaker 1>the artist Jan van Eyke, who was his court painter unequal.

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<v Speaker 1>Van Ike's Crucifixion and Last Judgment Diptic was created in

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<v Speaker 1>four six and consists of two small painted panels. Historians

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<v Speaker 1>believed some areas may have been finished by unidentified members

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<v Speaker 1>of his workshop, which actually wouldn't have been uncommon at

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<v Speaker 1>that time. The idea of the workshop, a type of apprenticeship,

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<v Speaker 1>was at the heart of many industries in the Italian Renaissance,

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<v Speaker 1>including carpentry, baking, cobbling, painting, on and on. Van Ike

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<v Speaker 1>was an innovator of what became known as the Early

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<v Speaker 1>Netherlandish style of painting. There is a common misconception out

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<v Speaker 1>there that seems to date back to a sixteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>artist named Vita of the Tuscan, that van Ike invented

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<v Speaker 1>oil painting, which that's just not true. It is, however, true,

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<v Speaker 1>that he achieved, or you may even be able to say, perfected,

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<v Speaker 1>new ways to develop oil mediums, to use glazes and

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<v Speaker 1>oil resin varnishes as well as drying oils. He's also

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<v Speaker 1>credited with originating a style of painting that relied on

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<v Speaker 1>realistic depictions of surface effects in natural light, all made

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<v Speaker 1>possible with those new ways of building up oil paints

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<v Speaker 1>and translucent layers. So though van Eyek is known to

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<v Speaker 1>have the most stolen art piece of all time, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>of all time, it's not his last judgment that's among

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<v Speaker 1>the thieves most wanted piece of art. That takes us

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<v Speaker 1>to another early Netherlandish painter named Hieronymous Bosch that was

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<v Speaker 1>actually the pseudonym of your own Van Akin Bosch is

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<v Speaker 1>known for his dream like pieces painted in oil on

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<v Speaker 1>oakwood and containing fantastical illustrations of religious concepts and narratives.

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<v Speaker 1>His version of the Last Judgment lies across three panels

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<v Speaker 1>and it takes us from the biblical story of the

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<v Speaker 1>Garden of Eden to a book of revelation hell Escape

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<v Speaker 1>where the damned are punished. The Last Judgment trip Tick,

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<v Speaker 1>created sometime around fourteen two, is part of the permanent

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<v Speaker 1>collection of the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna. While

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<v Speaker 1>Bosh's works have gone missing in the past, including the

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<v Speaker 1>rare piece Temptation of Saint Anthony, stolen from the Chrysler

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<v Speaker 1>Art Museum in Provincetown, Massachusetts in nineteen seventy, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as the Conjuror, which was stolen from the Museum of

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<v Speaker 1>suburban Saint Germain Lay in ninety eight, there is no

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<v Speaker 1>record of his Last Judgment ever having been stolen. And

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<v Speaker 1>then there was Lucas Senior Relli, an Italian Renaissance painter.

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<v Speaker 1>His depiction of the Last Judgment can be found in

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<v Speaker 1>the Chapel of San Brizio and features the Biblical stories

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<v Speaker 1>of bodies of the damned awaiting judgment. Seniorrelli completed more

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<v Speaker 1>than one piece at that chapel, including this one, between

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen and fifteen o nine. His Last Judgment Fresco is

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<v Speaker 1>widely considered the inspiration for the now famous image of

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<v Speaker 1>fearful Souls in another work called The Last Judgment, that

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<v Speaker 1>one created by Michelangelo and unveiled on October thirty one

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<v Speaker 1>fifty one. Each of these works has focused on the

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<v Speaker 1>Book of Revelation in the New Testament of the Christian Bible,

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<v Speaker 1>telling the story of the second Coming of Christ and

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<v Speaker 1>God's eternal judgment of all humanity, and michel Angelo's painting

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<v Speaker 1>is no different. Though his work of Fresco is grand

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<v Speaker 1>in scale, it covers the entire altar wall of the

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<v Speaker 1>Sistine Chapel in the Apostolic Palace in Vatican City. The

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<v Speaker 1>Italian artist was primarily a sculptor and not a painter,

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<v Speaker 1>but he created one of the most well known Renaissance paintings.

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<v Speaker 1>This painting depicts more than three hundred souls surrounding a

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<v Speaker 1>central figure, a depiction of Christ. There is, for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you who like the hidden details, a self portrait

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<v Speaker 1>of Michelangelo sneaked into an unexpected place in this painting,

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<v Speaker 1>the artist rendered himself as the flayed skin of St. Bartholomew,

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<v Speaker 1>who was one of the twelve apostles of Jesus according

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<v Speaker 1>to Christian theology, and who was said to have been

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<v Speaker 1>flayed alive. If you have ever seen this, it is

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<v Speaker 1>quite a striking image, quite an interesting choice to use

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<v Speaker 1>as your self portrait. Renaissance painter and architect Georgio Vasari's

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<v Speaker 1>book The Lives of the Most Excellent was a series

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<v Speaker 1>of artist biographies. The Sari was very prominent on the

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<v Speaker 1>art scene at the time that Michelangelo was working. In it,

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote about Michelangelo and specifically of the last Judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>quote he threw it open to view in the year

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<v Speaker 1>of fifty one, I believe on Christmas Day to the

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<v Speaker 1>marvel of all Rome, nay of the whole world. And

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<v Speaker 1>I who was that year in Venice and went to

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<v Speaker 1>Rome to see it, was struck dumb by its beauty.

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<v Speaker 1>Michel Angelo's contemporary Nino Sernini, reported on this work to

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<v Speaker 1>Cardinal Gonzaga, and in that report he wrote, quote, it

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<v Speaker 1>is of such beauty that your Excellency can imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>there is no lack of those who condemn it, but

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<v Speaker 1>those who condemned it, and there were quite a few,

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<v Speaker 1>did not steal it. The creations of the Last Judgments

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<v Speaker 1>didn't end with Michelangelo's masterpiece. Between eighteen fifty one and

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen fifty three, English Romantic painter John Martin painted a

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<v Speaker 1>Last Judgment triptych depicting the planes of heaven and the

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<v Speaker 1>great day of his wrath. The Christian God is depicted

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on a throne in heaven, surrounded by four archangels Michael, Gabriel, Raphael,

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<v Speaker 1>and Uriel, and by the elders of the Revelation below them.

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<v Speaker 1>On the left you see those saved waiting to ascend

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<v Speaker 1>to heaven. The damned are found on the right, tumbling

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<v Speaker 1>down a bottomless pit. Martin was known to feature real

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<v Speaker 1>life people in his paintings, including this one, and notable

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<v Speaker 1>persons among the saved, for instance, are Copernicus and Shakespeare. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>though this is a depiction of the Last Judgment that's

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<v Speaker 1>been lucky enough to never have been nicked. It keeps going,

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<v Speaker 1>but we are coming to the end of the Last

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<v Speaker 1>Judgment lists. If you were in the market for a

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<v Speaker 1>depiction of the Christian apocalypse, there were a lot to

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<v Speaker 1>choose from. Obviously, Russian artist Viktor Vasnetsov gave us an

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<v Speaker 1>early twentieth century depiction of the Last Judgment that was

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<v Speaker 1>created for St. George's Cathedral and Gus Kristalani and commissioned

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<v Speaker 1>by U. S. Natziev Matzev, who coincidentally had also funded

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<v Speaker 1>the building of the cathedral. That painting, completed in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o four, depicts Christ at the top of the piece,

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<v Speaker 1>with the Virgin Mary on the left and John the

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<v Speaker 1>Baptist on the right. Souls are seen waiting for salvation,

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<v Speaker 1>and Satan can be seen taunting those destined for hell.

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<v Speaker 1>Another Russian artist and one of the pioneers of abstract

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<v Speaker 1>modern art, Vasily Kandinsky, created his own Last Judgment. Kandynski's

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<v Speaker 1>features in irregular black shape at the center of the work,

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<v Speaker 1>surrounded by colorful lines and dots, as well as shapes

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<v Speaker 1>of various sizes, some open ended and some closed. That

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<v Speaker 1>piece is part of a series of paintings featuring biblical themes,

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<v Speaker 1>including the Resurrection Jonah and the Whale and the Great Flood,

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<v Speaker 1>and those were produced by Kendynski between nineteen twelve and

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen thirteen. None of the works in that series have

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<v Speaker 1>been stolen, and this leaves us with one more last judgment.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is a triptych painted by Hans Memling, a

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<v Speaker 1>piece he started in fourteen sixty seven and completed in

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen seventy one. Out of so many, yes, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the one. It is the one. This last judgment was

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<v Speaker 1>stolen in the late fifteenth century, but not by sleight

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<v Speaker 1>of hand or by skirting alarm systems or any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of Hollywood like stunt work. It was looted by pirates.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh that's right, there were pirates. We are going to

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<v Speaker 1>take a break for a word from our sponsor, and

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<v Speaker 1>when we're back we will talk about who Hans Memling

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<v Speaker 1>was and how important he was to the early Netherlandish

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<v Speaker 1>painting movement. Welcome back to Criminalia. We've described all the

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<v Speaker 1>other works, so let's talk about what memlings last judgment

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<v Speaker 1>looks like. Memling's Last Judgment, trip Tik is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the world's best preserved examples of early Netherlandish painting. Spanning

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<v Speaker 1>a timeline of more than five hundred years. The work

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<v Speaker 1>has never been severely damaged, despite some pretty thrilling adventures

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<v Speaker 1>it's been on. This is a well traveled piece of art.

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<v Speaker 1>This piece tells the story of the end of days

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<v Speaker 1>as described in Christian theology in the Revelation of St. John.

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<v Speaker 1>It depicts the biblical figures of Christ and the archangel

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<v Speaker 1>Michael during the final Judgment story in the Christian Bible.

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<v Speaker 1>Depicted as the Judge, Christ appears on a rainbow with

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<v Speaker 1>his feet resting on a golden orb, considered a symbol

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<v Speaker 1>of the universe. He is surrounded by the apostles. Michael

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<v Speaker 1>in golden armor is weighing souls of those who have

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<v Speaker 1>risen from the dead. Above them are angels. Below are

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<v Speaker 1>the Virgin Mary and John the Baptist. The right hand

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<v Speaker 1>panel features saved souls walking up to the gates of Heaven.

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<v Speaker 1>The left hand side depicts the scene where the damn

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<v Speaker 1>are cast down into eternal damnation, so Membling himself. Memling

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<v Speaker 1>was most likely born between fourteen thirty five and fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>forty in dot near Frankfurt in today's Germany, and probably

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<v Speaker 1>spent his childhood in Minds. We know he's spent almost

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<v Speaker 1>thirty years of his life as an artist working in Bruge,

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<v Speaker 1>but we only have bits and pieces of information about

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<v Speaker 1>the details of his life there. It's known that he

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<v Speaker 1>became a citizen of Bruges in January of fourteen sixty five.

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<v Speaker 1>We know he married Anna Valkanair sometime between fourteen seventy

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen eighty, and that the couple had children at

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<v Speaker 1>least three sons. By fourteen eighty, Memmling owned three homes

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<v Speaker 1>and had become one of the wealthiest men in the city.

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<v Speaker 1>He was much acclaimed as an artist in his own lifetime,

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<v Speaker 1>something not every artist gets to enjoy. When recording his

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<v Speaker 1>death in fourteen ninety four, the notary of Bruce described

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<v Speaker 1>Memmling as quote the most skillful painter in the whole

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<v Speaker 1>of Christendom. While there have been ups and downs among

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<v Speaker 1>critics and art historians over the centuries about the validity

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<v Speaker 1>of his works, he is now today considered a major

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<v Speaker 1>Northern Renaissance artist. One problem here that triptych does not

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<v Speaker 1>bear Memling signature, and that has led to it being

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<v Speaker 1>attributed to various Netherlandish painters throughout history, including Jan Vanik,

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<v Speaker 1>who we mentioned creating his own Last Judgment, but also

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<v Speaker 1>Roger van der Veiden, who was Memling's mentor. Hugo van

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<v Speaker 1>der Goes Albert von Uvetter, and Michael Volgemut have all

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<v Speaker 1>been considered at various times. It was German art historian

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<v Speaker 1>Gustav Hodo who in eighteen forty three saw Memling's distinct

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<v Speaker 1>hand in the Last Judgment, though in nineteen o one.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen o two, German art historian and cultural theorist

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<v Speaker 1>Abby Warburg added Hotels thesis to his publications, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Memling Triptych has been an undisputed Memling work pretty much

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<v Speaker 1>ever since. Today there are upwards of eighty paintings known

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<v Speaker 1>as his, and the list is growing. Memling is known

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<v Speaker 1>for his work in early Netherlandish art style, as well

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<v Speaker 1>as Flemish art and the gent Bruges school. He was

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<v Speaker 1>likely at least at first schooled in the art styles

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<v Speaker 1>trending in Cologne before he traveled to Bruge. It's in

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<v Speaker 1>Bruge where he trained in the workshop of internationally known

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<v Speaker 1>Flemish painter Rogier vander Widen, probably between fourteen fifty nine

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen sixty four. Once in Bruge, he quickly began

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<v Speaker 1>receiving commissions from its wealthy and influential residence, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is where he settled. He began to specialize in small

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<v Speaker 1>diptics and triptics for individual devotion, but it was Membling's

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<v Speaker 1>portraits in particular that were popular, and especially popular in Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Paula Natal, an art historian specializing in the Renaissance,

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<v Speaker 1>memlings distinctive style in his portraits came from his use

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<v Speaker 1>of landscape backgrounds by quote, a balanced counterpart between top

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<v Speaker 1>and bottom, foreground and background, the head offset by the

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<v Speaker 1>neutral expanse of sky and the neutral area of the

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<v Speaker 1>shoulders enlivened by the landscape detail beyond. His style influenced

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<v Speaker 1>the work of numerous fifteenth century Italian painters and can

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<v Speaker 1>be seen in pieces such as Raphael's Madelenadoni. But it

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't one of his portraits that was stolen. So we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a break for a word from our sponsors,

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<v Speaker 1>and when we return we will talk about who Angelo

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<v Speaker 1>Tani was and why he probably never saw Memlings last judgment,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about how conflict between

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<v Speaker 1>England and the Hanseiotic League led to the perhaps unintentional

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<v Speaker 1>theft of memlings triptic. Angelo Tani, an ancient of the

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<v Speaker 1>Medici Bank in Bruges was the triptics patron, and he

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<v Speaker 1>commissioned it in fourteen sixty five. In fact, when the

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<v Speaker 1>triptic is closed, Tony and his wife are shown kneeling

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<v Speaker 1>in prayer. We read about this piece that it was

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be hung in a chapel in Florence, but

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<v Speaker 1>though not all reports suggested this, we did see that

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<v Speaker 1>it was intended to hang as the altar piece for

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<v Speaker 1>a new private chapel in Fiesole in Tuscany, near the

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<v Speaker 1>city of Florence, where the Badia Fia Solana is currently located.

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<v Speaker 1>Before April three, you'll find no mention actually of memoins

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<v Speaker 1>last judgment triptych nothing. On that day it was loaded

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<v Speaker 1>under Burgundian flag aboard the San Mateo, a galley bound

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<v Speaker 1>from Bruge to Florence, Italy via the English coast. Two

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<v Speaker 1>days later the San Mateo, when the vessel entered English waters,

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<v Speaker 1>well that's when things went sideways. Here the vessel was

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<v Speaker 1>overtaken by a ship under the Hanseatic League also known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Hansa, which was at the time at war

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<v Speaker 1>with England. So for more than four hundred years, the

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<v Speaker 1>Hanseatic League shaped Northern Europe. It's economy, trade, its politics,

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<v Speaker 1>and this continued well into the seventeenth century. At its peak,

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<v Speaker 1>the network was an alliance of trading guilds that included

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<v Speaker 1>more than two hundred towns, mainly around the Baltic Sea

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<v Speaker 1>and Inland up to Cologne or Hurt and Krakoff. The

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<v Speaker 1>league extended far beyond this area, though, with trading posts

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<v Speaker 1>running on routes from Portugal to Russia, Finland to the Mediterranean.

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<v Speaker 1>In Bruge, London and Bergen, the long distance traders founded

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<v Speaker 1>large foreign trading posts. Smaller ones were established in many

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<v Speaker 1>other cities on their roots. The long distance merchants joined

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<v Speaker 1>forces to boost business, of course, but also to better

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<v Speaker 1>protect themselves against pirates. The conflict that catalyzed the events

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about was fought between England, specifically against the

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<v Speaker 1>English merchant community's expansion, and the Hanseatic League, and lasted

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<v Speaker 1>from roughly fourteen sixty nine to fourteen seventy four. It

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<v Speaker 1>was during this Anglohnsiatic War when the Membling triptych was

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<v Speaker 1>stolen at So the first recorded artist in history involves

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<v Speaker 1>something that we know a little bit about from one

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<v Speaker 1>of our earlier seasons pirates. Paul Bennicky was a Godons

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<v Speaker 1>town council leader, and he was a pirate. Technically he

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<v Speaker 1>was a privateer because he got paid for his piracy gigs.

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<v Speaker 1>But really I think we all learned a few seasons

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<v Speaker 1>ago that a pirate is a pirate is a pirate.

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<v Speaker 1>He was commissioned by Lubeck, head of the Hanseatic League,

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<v Speaker 1>to captain the ship Peter von Danzig. Danzig is the

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<v Speaker 1>German name for the city of Godons, which throughout history

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<v Speaker 1>has had periods of Polish, Prussian, and German rule. Today

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<v Speaker 1>it is one of the oldest cities in Poland. As

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<v Speaker 1>a result of the conflict between England and the Hanseatic League,

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<v Speaker 1>Captain Bennecky Stalked, attacked, and boarded the Florence boundship transporting

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<v Speaker 1>the Last Judgment. The painting never reached Italy. As this

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<v Speaker 1>is generally accepted as the first document minted instance of

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<v Speaker 1>modern art theft. To some historians, that indicates memlings paintings

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<v Speaker 1>were beginning to be seen as worthy as gold, silver,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even precious stones, items of value you might find

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<v Speaker 1>in a pirates loot. When private collectors became interested in art,

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<v Speaker 1>which was roughly at the beginning of the sixteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>Some paintings and works by certain artists became worth the

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<v Speaker 1>steel because of the payoff. Others, though, consider Memlings worked

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<v Speaker 1>to have just been in the wrong place at the

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<v Speaker 1>wrong time. In the North Sea, Bennecky commandeered the galley

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<v Speaker 1>and sailed it and all of its cargo, including the

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<v Speaker 1>membling piece, as well as textiles, leather, furs, valuable album

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<v Speaker 1>and more, back to Poland, specifically to the port city

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<v Speaker 1>of Gdansk on the Baltic coast of Poland. There was

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<v Speaker 1>just to make note, one report that suggested that Bennecky

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<v Speaker 1>alternatively tugged the vessel to the port of Stop. All

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<v Speaker 1>of the stolen cargo fell into the possession of the

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<v Speaker 1>pirates or I'm sorry, the privateers. At first, they gave

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<v Speaker 1>their load to the local nobles, who then in turn

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<v Speaker 1>gave everything to what is now St. Mary's Basilica in

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the city. Angelo Tani, who commissioned the

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<v Speaker 1>last judgment, not surprisingly objected to the seizure, and the

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<v Speaker 1>issue was taken up in papal court. Benniket's looting was

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<v Speaker 1>defended on the basis that the seizure had been a

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<v Speaker 1>legitimate act of war, as the Ansiotic League had been

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<v Speaker 1>at war with England at the time it was taken,

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<v Speaker 1>so case closed. The triptych was hung on one of

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<v Speaker 1>the pillars of the Goddon's Chapel of St. George, where

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<v Speaker 1>it stayed for more than three hundred years. Fast forward

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit to the sixteenth century. Rudolf the second

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<v Speaker 1>Holy Roman Emperor admired Memling's work and wanted to buy

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<v Speaker 1>the triptych for forty thou sailers sailors if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>familiar at the time where large silver coins minted in

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<v Speaker 1>the states and territories of the Holy Roman Empire. But

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<v Speaker 1>that offer, which was pretty generous, was turned down by

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<v Speaker 1>the city of Goadonsk in seventeen Sixteenszar Peter the First

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<v Speaker 1>was not as subtle as to request its purchase. He

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<v Speaker 1>just demanded that Memling's last judgment be handed over as

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<v Speaker 1>a token of gratitude for peace negotiations that had been

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<v Speaker 1>favorable for the city. Goodonsk city officials, though once again decline.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until eighteen o seven when the French, led

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<v Speaker 1>by Martial of Febre, conquered Goadonsk that the painting was

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<v Speaker 1>given a new home, although no it was not returned

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<v Speaker 1>to its owner. The painting was shipped to the newly

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<v Speaker 1>established Napoleon Museum in the Louver in Paris, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was there actually where it was erroneously considered to be

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<v Speaker 1>the work of Jan van Ike. It remained there for

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<v Speaker 1>eight years until it was sent to Berlin. It was

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<v Speaker 1>returned to Goodonsk in eighteen seventeen through diplomatic efforts by

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<v Speaker 1>the city council and an intervention by the King of Prussia.

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<v Speaker 1>It was placed once again in St. Mary's Basilica, where

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<v Speaker 1>it stayed until the final days of the Second World War.

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<v Speaker 1>It was hidden for its safety during the war, but

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<v Speaker 1>was ultimately looted by the Red Army and taken to

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<v Speaker 1>the Hermitage in Leningrad. Post World War Two, Poland became

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<v Speaker 1>the new rightful owner under new international treaties, and in

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<v Speaker 1>y six the last Judgment was at least initially hung

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<v Speaker 1>in the National Museum in Warsaw. It was later moved

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<v Speaker 1>to the Pomeranian Museum, which became the National Museum and

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<v Speaker 1>gnounced in and that's where you can still visit it

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<v Speaker 1>today if you were interested. The Memblane triptych, which we've

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<v Speaker 1>learned should never have actually been in dust to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>remains the only work of the Flemish artist in any

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<v Speaker 1>collection in museums across all of Poland. And that is

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<v Speaker 1>the story of the second last judgment. There's so many

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<v Speaker 1>any it's time for heist hooch. And the thing that

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<v Speaker 1>of course struck me about this entire story, it's just

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<v Speaker 1>how much this guy moved around, which is a lot. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that got me thinking about the idea of so many

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<v Speaker 1>people claiming ownership over it, and the one person who

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<v Speaker 1>actually technically should have owned it never getting to never

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<v Speaker 1>saw it, never even saw it, did not have the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>then he cannot look it up. I am calling this

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<v Speaker 1>one Tonny's lament. I appreciate that he is being uplifted

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<v Speaker 1>here because he really falls down in the story. He

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<v Speaker 1>is and then there's a spirit I chose to represent

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<v Speaker 1>him in a way and you'll hear what it is

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<v Speaker 1>in a moment and you'll be like predictable, but also

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<v Speaker 1>I hope funny. One of the things that I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do was build a drink that represented all of

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<v Speaker 1>the countries where mem his last judgment has lived. Good

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<v Speaker 1>luck getting a glass that big. Well, you gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit judicious so that you don't just get trash, right,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's a lot of stuff. First, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you what gets included to represent eachthing, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do the actual measures of the drink. So, since

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<v Speaker 1>it was intended for either Florence or just outside of it,

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<v Speaker 1>but it never made it there, Mr Tony never got

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<v Speaker 1>what he wanted. The bitter appair tief Campari is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be in the mix because I would be real

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<v Speaker 1>bitter about this whole life. But I weren't telling his wife.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, when they close it, it's the two of us.

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<v Speaker 1>So beautiful, honey, it's gonna be amazing. I've never seen it,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, it's Campari. Also, we did, if you remember,

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<v Speaker 1>a while back, I did a drink that was trying

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<v Speaker 1>to make friends with the Negroni, which has Campari, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I have it on hand. I gotta find more

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<v Speaker 1>ways to use it. I think I have here. Poland

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<v Speaker 1>has to be highly represented as well, obviously because it's

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<v Speaker 1>lived there for a long time. This one is a

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<v Speaker 1>two fur right, We're combining Poland and Russia, because we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get some vodka in the mix, and I specifically

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<v Speaker 1>suggest a spirit that appeared on our show at the

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<v Speaker 1>very beginning, which is bison grass vodka. You're going all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back like origin story. I still have a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit in my bottle of Zabraca, which is one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite brands of vodka. We are not paid

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<v Speaker 1>in any way for a neighbor, so I just legitimately

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<v Speaker 1>love that vodka, and it's a Polish vodka and it

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<v Speaker 1>is delicious, so that, as I said, continues to be

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<v Speaker 1>a favor. You don't have to have that specific kind

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<v Speaker 1>of vodka, and if you don't have bison grass, that's fine.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a good neutral vodka will work here. And then

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<v Speaker 1>we don't want to keep adding spirits because this will

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<v Speaker 1>get sloppy. So next I went to crops. So Belgium

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<v Speaker 1>and Germany fortunately have a lot of crossover crops, so

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<v Speaker 1>this drink is going to feature both apple and cherry flavors.

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<v Speaker 1>I know it would have been obvious to do a

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<v Speaker 1>beer cocktail because of Belgium, but I don't love those frankly.

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<v Speaker 1>But also it stayed in France for a minute, so

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to include some lemon juice. Now, citrus might

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<v Speaker 1>not be what you think of when you think of

0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:14.600
<v Speaker 1>European crops, but the south of France has actually become

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<v Speaker 1>really well known for its lemon groves. Those are specifically

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<v Speaker 1>called ment in lemons because of the region that they

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<v Speaker 1>grow in, which have very productive trees. They produce like

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<v Speaker 1>more per branch than other lemon trees. But for today,

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<v Speaker 1>regular lemon juice, and you're also gonna in the mix

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<v Speaker 1>of that, have some raspberry syrup. Raspberries also grow in

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<v Speaker 1>belgiumin Germany, and here we go. So you're gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>one ounce of campari, one ounce of your vodka, one

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of lemon juice, and one ounce of raspberry syrup

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<v Speaker 1>in your shaker. Next you were adding to this two

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<v Speaker 1>ounces of cherry water. Now, when I say that, what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean is like there are various companies that do

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<v Speaker 1>healthy waters that have a lot of faver. You want

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<v Speaker 1>one of those cherry versions of that. And because there

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<v Speaker 1>that's a water, we're not gonna do ice in this shaker.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna what's called dry shaking, which just means you're

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<v Speaker 1>not putting ice in the tin. The ice in your

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<v Speaker 1>tin is to help dilute your alcohols, but since that

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<v Speaker 1>is a water item, you don't need to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You just want to shake it. I do suggest pre

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<v Speaker 1>chilling your glass so that you have an extra cold drink,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's shaking also makes things cold, and if you

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<v Speaker 1>don't have ice in there, you won't get the same

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<v Speaker 1>level of chill. So put that glass in the fridge.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're first starting this, you want to put your

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<v Speaker 1>ice in and then put it in the fridge. Great,

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna shaky shake it. You're gonna strain it over

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<v Speaker 1>fresh ice into that chilled glass, and then you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>top it with another thing that's shown up on the

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<v Speaker 1>show before hard cider. This is yummy. I have officially

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<v Speaker 1>made friends with Campari. It took me a minute, and

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<v Speaker 1>I will say because that is a unique flavor that

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<v Speaker 1>does have a lot, it is really the prevailing flavor

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not careful. I had to do a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of tweakies to get proportions where I wanted them to

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<v Speaker 1>become friends. We had to have a lot to become friends.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to know exactly how much of that friend

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<v Speaker 1>I am willing to deal with one ounce plus one

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of vodka. Now, a mocktail version of this is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit tricky, but it's doable. So your lemon juice,

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<v Speaker 1>your raspberry syrup, your cherry water, those are all obviously easy.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep them in lieu of your hard cider. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do a not hard cider. Now the tricky part, right,

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<v Speaker 1>you can just skip the vodka. And here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>would do in lieu of cumpari. First of all, if

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<v Speaker 1>you can brew a uh An orange tea, I would

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<v Speaker 1>use that. I would hard brew that thing. I would

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<v Speaker 1>let it steep for a while. And even though you

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<v Speaker 1>have already used that, I would also this is a

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<v Speaker 1>place where garnish can really help make up the gap

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<v Speaker 1>between a cocktail and a mocktail. You want to get

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<v Speaker 1>your a little coin, a little piece of orange peel.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to make sure you rub the rim of

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<v Speaker 1>your glass so that it gets those oils from the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You want the outside edge of the peel. If you

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<v Speaker 1>do the inside, the white pithy part, it's really bitter

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<v Speaker 1>and you don't want to put that to your mouth.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's what I would do for the mocktail, and

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<v Speaker 1>I would keep pretty much the same proportions for everything

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<v Speaker 1>you can tweak. At that point, you may want to

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<v Speaker 1>throttle back a little bit on the syrup so it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't get too sweet, because in this case, that's like

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<v Speaker 1>an ounce of syrup is because you are countering that

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of very toothy and bity kampari. If you love kampari,

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<v Speaker 1>and some people do, then you're golden and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>don't worry about any of this. That is Tanny's lament.

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<v Speaker 1>And as I've said before, because I often do these

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<v Speaker 1>drinks in the mornings before we record, I don't usually

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<v Speaker 1>drink the whole thing. But I didn't even mean to.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I was like, oh, I'm down to rocks.

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing but ice left. What happened here? That

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<v Speaker 1>was delicious? That was good? Say keep all of these

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<v Speaker 1>ingredients out for later. Yes, I will for sure make another.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a beautiful red color, so it's I was about

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<v Speaker 1>to ask when it's you know that campari is packs

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of pigments, very red. I imagine It's really

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<v Speaker 1>not like it doesn't look deluted down in here. It

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<v Speaker 1>all because you're adding in Jerry raspberry. The raspberry syrup

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<v Speaker 1>also adds red and depending on what syrup you're you use.

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<v Speaker 1>This gets a little in the weeds in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>like color, but like campari is a very orangey looking red,

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<v Speaker 1>the raspberry syrup I used was a very blue based red,

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<v Speaker 1>and so they ended up with a neutral, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>pure clean red, which is nice anyway. Red. Uh, get

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<v Speaker 1>to the red of your liking, right, Tunny's lament because

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<v Speaker 1>I'd be bitter if somebody took my painting. If I

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<v Speaker 1>commissioned a painting and it got stolen by pirates, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not sure that I would not behave in a manner

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<v Speaker 1>that is illegal in band. I think I would hunt

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<v Speaker 1>them down. Don't don't do that. Don't do bad things.

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<v Speaker 1>But it would be hard because I imagine it was

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<v Speaker 1>not inexpensive and also seemed to be something that he

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